Skategate? Habs had blade issues too: Martin

From The Gazette’s Herb Zurkowsky:

only are the Canadiens denying any suggestions of sabotage, head coach Jacques
Martin said his players had their own skate-related issues during Saturday
afternoon’s game against Philadelphia.

According to Martin, his team lost two centres – Scott Gomez and
Dominic Moore – at the same time during the second period.

“Both teams had skate
issues,” Martin said Sunday, following a meeting at the team’s Brossard
practice facility. “With the new sticks, because of the intensity and
battles and shots on the composite sticks, it makes more damage.”


NBC reported during Saturday’s game at the Bell Centre, won 3-0 by the Flyers, that “sand or some other foreign substance,” had been emptied onto the floor outside the door of the visiting team’s dressing room and down toward the tunnel. Subsequently, several players’ blades became dull quickly.

A handful had to leave the game, some repeatedly, for skate repairs.
 Published reports had captain Mike Richards leaving three times for repairs, for example.

The Flyers attempted to alleviate the problem by placing a series of towels outside their room.

“Every game, teams have problems with their skates,” Montreal defenceman Hall Gill said. “There’s a lot going on in the arenas, more foot traffic, and there’s a tendency for more stuff on the ground.”  


Canadiens forward Tom Pyatt is day-to-day with an upper-body injury
suffered during Saturday’s second period.



  1. slapshot777 says:

    LGF = TROLL no matter how you pronounce it there it is, no matter what you say there it is, TROLL, you won’t forget your name now will you, TROLL. Your life long goal is to come on sites and stir sh!t. If that makes you happy than so be it, I guess you haven’t much of a life than. You must sure work at Trolling because you seem to be pretty good at it.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  2. L.G.F. says:

    We’ll cross that bridge after we get the 4th win of this series.  3 shut outs no matter how they happen sure are nice!! Man, maybe he’ll go for his 4th and break all kinds of records tomorrow night!   A win is a win and a loss is a loss.  It don’t matter how it happens.  You can talk all you want about a no body, but this guy is stopping your “great” team from scoring.  Thats all that matter!  You can say all you want…your such a great Habs fan, already counting out your team and trying to make yourself feel better that the flyers will get killed by chicago. hahahaha thank you for proving my point that you guys are complete idiots.  Thank you!

  3. habbytown says:

    didn’t we say that a few years ago about Kostistyn bros, Pleks, Price, ?

    and it’s very possible all will be gone come July.

  4. L.G.F. says:

    Maybe you should follow your own advice. All you guys talk about is how he said that about the PP in game 3, nothing about how he also gave them credit you hypocrite!  Again, proving my point about how stupid some of you are…follow your own advice.

    Habs will not win the next game, they are done.  If they do, it’ll be all the sweeter to win in front of you idiotic fans in Montreal.

  5. L.G.F. says:

    Maybe you should follow your own advice. All you guys talk about is how he said that about the PP in game 3, nothing about how he also gave them credit you hypocrite!  Again, proving my point about how stupid some of you are…follow your own advice.

    Habs will not win the next game, they are done.  If they do, it’ll be all the sweeter to win in front of you idiotic fans in Montreal.

  6. topher5468 says:

    I remember Washington fans doing the same thing, popping off at the mouth before the series is over. The Flyers are playing well, so what. It takes 4 games to win the last time i checked. And as far as cheating , well Ill leave that to the Class of America, Philadelphia to have at it

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  7. slapshot777 says:

    If your going to quote from players than don’t just quote the parts that suit your sorry a$$. I guess you forgot to mention how Richards went on to to cry and whine about how the Habs used their number one PP unit when the score was 4-1. If you are here to TROLL then take it someplace else. We don’t need your sh!t in here. If you can’t say anything intelligent which by your post it doesn’t look like it, then stay the Hell out.

    I bet if the Habs win the next game, you won’t even post a word, that how classy you are, Maybe you should have a bit of cheese to go with your whine.


  8. SeriousFan09 says:

    Give it a couple of years, Pacioretty, Leblanc, Kristo, Engqvist, Avtsin, we have some very good offensive prospects in the system.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  9. Storm Man says:

    Hmmmm….. I don’t know what your probelm is…. But I’m going to bet it’s really hard to pronounce…

  10. Hab Crazy says:

    you think philly can beat the hawks?you need a reality check,Leighton is a nobody,only reason he got 3 shut outs is becuase the shots came from far out,have fun in the finals,philly is out 4 straight,then i guarantee you won’t be on this site,remember Leighton is a nobody,hawks are gunna have a hay day with him.

  11. TripleX says:

    First round picks should not be a crapshoot.  If they are then your scouting department is a failure.  Late gems like PK Subban always happen and that is shear luck.  A franchise can not afford to waste First Round picks.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  12. L.G.F. says:

    Sorry I just came across this website, so thats why its my first time.  A bunch of whinners?  Richards said after game 3 that the habs kicked their ass, that is was an old fashioned ass whopping.  He gave the habs credit.  I guess thats whinning.  You habs fans are complete idiots.  I come on here for laughs.  Maybe you will riot if you win game 5.  Thats makes sense for you guys. 

  13. slapshot777 says:

    Anyone read the latest rant by Halak’s agent Allan Walsh. If your interested here is the translated version.

    Officers Alan Walsh and David Schatia were livid after the defeat of the Canadiens. A defeat in which the Habs could not provide any margin of error to their client Jaroslav Halak, who lost by shutout for the third time in four games.
    Their anger, however, had nothing to do with the final score. Or so little. It was primarily due to the fact that they had tickets in hand, like other supporters attending the meeting, showed pictures of Carey Price, accompanied by Jacques Plante and Ken Dryden.

    A decision that the two officers construed as an affront to the place of their client that saved the season of the Canadian and the miracles that have multiplied since the beginning of the series.

    Ultimately, they saw where the decision was already made about the future custodian of the organization …

    When La Presse Alan Walsh asked if he had any comments, he offered a pause of several seconds. “The focus must remain on the players in the playoffs. But once the season ends, I have things to say. This is not the first time this organization deals with Jaroslav Halak in this way, and I wonder where all this will take us when it comes time to negotiate, “he has merely said.


    In the Canadian camp, it was surprised and disappointed that such an association is made between the graphical presentation of commemorative banknotes Saturday’s game and the conclusions drawn by the agents of Slovakian goalkeeper.

    “It has nothing to do,” he assured the Vice-President for Communications and Community Relations, Donald Beauchamp.

    “Our tickets are printed for the playoffs for almost three months. I do not know how the officials have linked the players to the games, but I can confirm that Jaroslav Halak is associated with Patrick Roy for the second home game of the Stanley Cup final. ”

    Scott Gomez is associated with Guy Lafleur for the first if the Canadiens reach the large end. Michael Cammalleri sharing tickets a game five with Maurice “Rocket” Richard.

    Tomas Plekanec combined with Bob Gainey, is featured on the tickets that were issued as part of a seventh game, when the Canadiens took advantage of the home-ice advantage.

    Keepers Self

    Jaroslav Halak, as his teammate, however, rival for the position of the Habs goalie Carey Price, will become a restricted free agent next July 1.

    Halak will however be the only two to be able to invoke arbitration if it considers that the wage offered by the Canadian does not equal the market value of the guards around the NHL.

    As such, the contract of $ 10.5 million for three years just make the Dallas Stars in Kari Lehtonen, such as contract Jonas Hiller in Anaheim ($ 18 million, 4 years), Pascal Leclaire to Ottawa (one , $ 4 million, 3 years) and Pekka Rinne in Nashville (6.8 million, 2 years) have something to salivate Halak and its agents.

    However we should say that these guards were flirting with full autonomy while Halak to sell two more seasons before reaching this milestone.

    It looks as if Walsh is going to make things very difficult for the Habs come this summer. The Habs I know still have Halaks rights, but this douche bag Walsh constantly has a gripe with everything the Habs does. Why don’t he just STFU and work with PG come this summer rather than constantly go crying off into the media. He is very unprofessional and in my opinion this doesn’t make for a good working relationship come contract time.

    The link for the french version is here.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  14. Say Ash says:

    it’s a crapshoot for everybody – how many teams passed on Subban?

  15. TripleX says:

    That is FOUR of their top SIX dude!  How good do you expect a team to be before you consider they have done a great job?  SIX of the top  SIX forwards?

    I would love it if Four of the Habs top Six came through the draft.  That would leave a heck of a lot more cap space leftover to fill out the roster.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  16. slapshot777 says:

    A box of crying towels has already been sent to the Flyers. Man what a bunch of whinners. If the only time you can come on here is when the Flyers win then I guess we know what kind idiot you are. Keep it too yourself. Until the fourth game is won. The Flyers haven’t won anything.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  17. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t see Pacioretty as a waste, just a prospect who needed the proper time in the AHL he didn’t get before being rushed up, he’s not done. Chipchura’s achilles tendon injury was nobody’s fault as well. I’ll easily admit Fischer was a blown pick and Andrei’s looking like a bust as well but let’s not pretend the Flyers are drafting savants.

    Not one draft pick from 2004, 2005 and only Claude Giroux from 2006 is on their roster, they hit the jackpot with Carter and Richards in 2003, but no one after them is currently a Flyer, 2007, their only name is Van Riemsdyk, a 2nd overall pick. 2008, Luca Sbisa who was a top D prospect now belongs to the Ducks. Steve Downie, they found him too much of a ‘Hole to be a Flyer, Colin Fraser and Patrick Sharp are Hawks, Joni Pitkanen is a Hurricane as well, going further back only name still on the roster is Simon Gagne.

    Carter, Richards, Giroux, JVR are all they have in recent picks. These guys aren’t the Hawks in drafting terms.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  18. L.G.F. says:

    Man, you habs fans cry a lot.  3 Shut outs.  Face it, your magic has run out.  Even when your arena tries to cheat, you guys get shut out.  Man up already and face the facts that the flyers are on a mission.

  19. Storm Man says:

    The Bruins by a mile, 3-0 in games and lets not forget the fact they where up 3-0 in game 7 and still lost, epic I would say.

  20. MontrealAtheist says:

    The Laffs are a bit like a mosquito with broken wings … Sure you hate it, but it can’t really do much damage anyway, so instead you direct your hate towards other objects that are more deserving of your hate.

  21. Storm Man says:

    That would be some great magic 🙂

  22. Storm Man says:

    I was not asking that. But thanks anyways.

  23. Fenrir767 says:

    Wasn’t talking about elimination games was talking about in the series overall. I was at game 6 when he robbed the Capitals, I have fait we will win Tomorrow and most likely game 6 then it comes down to the third game 7 and we will see if history will be made once again!

  24. TripleX says:

    The point is that it essential not to waste first round picks.  The only first round picks on the Habs are AK and Price.  Look at the Flyers, a team that has made awesome first round picks and they are still on the team.  The Habs have either made bad choices or have squandered their picks.

    Thus, the Habs have had to try to build around a core of UFA’s.  They are expensive and older, and in a cap world have left the Habs with little room to fill out the roster.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  25. Fenrir767 says:

    I think we need new scouting staff. This is the staff that said Ryan Mcdonagh was a studd and we were getting ripped off for letting him go. I think we got out of the leagues best defensive forwards out of Tom Pyatt and Gomez brings a lot of character despite his salary. We’ll just have to see what happens, but man when I think of how we could have had Giroux, Richards, Carter, Parise. Our only good draft pick in years seems to have been Subban. Heck Komisarek turned into a dud also at least he’s the laffs problem now.

  26. Slovak says:

    IT’s kind of magic 🙂 I don’t know why but I have a good feeling – something great will happen on monday

  27. Storm Man says:

    I think you missed his point.

  28. TripleX says:

    Halak’s save percentage in elimination games is OVER .960.  If you think someone else can do better please tell us.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  29. Slovak says:

    They will bring it back, why not?

  30. SeriousFan09 says:

    None of those players were a Top 5 selection, closest to that was AK at 10th overall.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  31. Storm Man says:

    Plus the fact they have the Bowman’s also helps alot.

  32. Big Ted says:

    We will always hate the Leafs, but it hasn’t been a competitive hate for years. They beat us sometimes in games because they always step up their game against us, but it has bene rare for us to battle for position or have any chance of both making the playoffs for a couple of seasons now. The Flyers and Bruins are our most hated playoff rivals of late.

  33. Slovak says:

    I don’t know too but I believe there is some at least to bring it back to Bell

  34. Fenrir767 says:

    I don’t think I want to know

  35. Big Ted says:

    Other than the Wings and Devils, most teams who are won Cups did so by building around high draft choices after poor finishes:

    – Pens: Crosby, Malkin, Fleury

    – TB: Lecavalier, Richards

    – Chi: Toews, Kane

    – Was: Ovechkin, Backstrom, Semin

    It’s a lot easier to build a good team if you suck really badly for a couple of years in a row. Some media talk about how Pittsburgh (for example) did a greta job building through the draft to develop a winner, but how hard was it to select Crosby or Malkin near the top. These same people talk about how greta the fans are in Pittsburgh, but where were they in the years after Lemieux left and before Crosby showed up. that Pittsburgh franchise will go back to being in trouble in 8-10 years when Crosby is gone and they have no high draft choices left to build around. The Devils and Wings are two excpetions to the rule, but the fact is that most top teams are cycling through years of productivity and failure, and the ones in the middle stay in the middle of the pack with a bit of variation from year to year. The exception is when a team like ours has an almost injury-free year like we did two years ago and it propels us up the standings. Otherwise, that’s the truth about the Bettman era: mediocrity breeds success.

  36. homerbowen says:

    No team should ever replace the Laffs as “most hated”

  37. Fenrir767 says:

    Well I love my Habs however if they don’t win another game and send it to 6 and compete once again. Then I will have to say they pulled the biggest choke because they haven’t even been home for 3 of the last 4 games.

  38. Hockey Socks says:

    They did manage to draft Toews and Kane by tanking. But they picked Duncan Keith after we got our hands on Chris Higgins and the memorable Tomas Linhart.

  39. Storm Man says:

    Does anyone know what Halak’s save percentage is in this series?

  40. Fenrir767 says:

    I hate Mike Richards, he was a player with such great potential but his mentality as flyers captain is absolute crap. That said Habs in 7. The flyers have now become my most hated team in Hockey, they have passed the leafs!

  41. Slovak says:

    Forget that strange F word…

  42. coachdoug says:

    I sure hope so…I like Hossa though…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  43. SeriousFan09 says:

    Sharks falling apart in the playoffs doesn’t really qualify as a choke for me anymore, Bruins I’d say.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  44. Big Ted says:

    The Flyers, the American media, the NHL, and Mrs. Gary Bettman are
    all hypocrites. I love how they make a big deal out of the Flyers
    players having skate issues, yet we clearly had the same thing and no
    one even mentions it in the initial report. Plus we had the whole
    Gorges incident that cost us a goal and put a damper on any momentum we
    might have gotten back.

    The refereeing was pretty abysmal last
    night (again). Although I think they gave us some favorable
    calls/non-calls in the third, the refs looked the other way on a good
    7-8 possible infractions on Philly in the first two periods while
    handing us two pretty iffy calls. They then ignored the high stick on
    Gionta and the Pronger hit form behind on Gomez, so all in all not
    impressed. The Habs didn’t play well, I will be the first to admit it,
    but everyone forgets how even a couple of missed calls affects momentum
    and the way the players play the game when they’re not sure what is and
    isn’t a penalty.

    Finally, on the subject of being a hypocrite,
    let’s rewind to Mike Richards’ comments about the Habs playing the
    first PP unit in game 3. The Flyers did it in Game 1, and again
    yesterday when Lapierre took the late penalty. When it happened I was
    waiting to see who came out and sure enough it was Pronger, Timonen,
    Carter, and even Richards himself who hopped over the boards. The
    Flyers are all talk about how they are being cheated and how we should
    feel sorry for them, but I think the evidence shows they have been the
    dirtier and more unsportsmanlike team, in addition to benefiting more
    than us from the weak officiating. We can also tack on the title of
    most hypocritical team to that list now.

  45. coachdoug says:

    Duncan Keith doing an interview missing 4 chicklets…these guys want it bad…Habs better want it Monday…

    A win tomorrow would bring it back to Montreal and that would be a chance…If my man Pleks and AK46 would wake the hell up we might generate some offense…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  46. Slovak says:

    But again sorry Marian – Halak is taking the cup

  47. habbytown says:

    I’m enviouis of Chicago fans for having a fantastic team. but they did have to TANK 3 years in a row.\remember that. if you don’t tank, you won’t win a cup .

  48. Slovak says:

    Come on I see it exactly the same way without fun…

  49. habbytown says:

    we? you mean the Flyers!

  50. habbytown says:

    the habs for not showing up in 3 of 4 most important playoff games!

    CH= choker habs.

  51. Slovak says:

    SHarks fought pretty good, but honestly biggest choke will be HABS if they do not bring this series back to Bell, but they will so the biggest choke are Bruins…

  52. coachdoug says:

    Sometimes the third time is a charm!

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  53. punkster says:

    I think we’re going to have a very tough time against the Hawks. They’re just too strong all around. The only advantage may be in goal but only if Halak can pull another MVP run.

    (I know I’ll get slammed/laughed at/belittled/trashed for that comment but it was just too good to resist!)


  54. Slovak says:



  55. Chuck says:

    Now open for debate: who pulled the bigger choke? The Bruins, for letting a 3-0 series lead slip away, or the Sharks for getting to the semi-final and being swept 4-0?


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  56. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hawks look like they’re taking a Cup.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  57. coachdoug says:

    Then there were three…Sharks out…Chicago looking pretty solid

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  58. Slovak says:

    Because as Mike Tyson said…

    “Everyone has a plan ’till they get punched in the mouth.”

    I just wanted to say that Flyers fans can be funny – that is funny 🙂


    Beside that – Hey man you look depressed – don’t be they will bring it back to the Bell – you’ll see…

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    We’re a very open society in Canada, unless it’s suggested that someone can play hockey better than a Canadian.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  60. Slovak says:

    “We just didn’t execute. We got impatient and got away from doing that,” forward Brian Gionta said. “I think the second period is where we got away from our game. We tried pressing a little too hard and that’s when you get away from your game plan.”

    “Everyone has a plan ’till they get punched in the mouth.”

    -Mike Tyson

  61. ooder says:

    aa yes the scum bag russians.

    that datsyuk is such a dirtbag, so is fedorov and gonchar and malkin right?


    ovechkin plays like an idiot and one day he will get clocked and hard… but throwing all of the Russian into one pile and calling them scum bags???

    that’s enough Don cherry for you

    oh and where were you mr. noble when cormier was throwing elbows and cheap shotting every player in sight at the world juniors?


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  62. Slovak says:

    Lucky Czech team whatever Russians just try to beat them individually – something like HABS in previous 3 shutout games…

    HAWKS ARE LIKE STORM I hope HABS are watching the game…

  63. Slovak says:

    Or I offer another surprising strategy – put all five HABS in nets and let Halak try to do some offense with that big stick

  64. hablifting says:

    I could care less about the “whining” you guys like to harp on so much.  Nobody in here knows 99% of what they saw him saying on camera, not to mention that he takes up more then 50% of the cameras time when the play is not on.  Another media fed load of bullshit, in my opinion.  He tried hard, and yeah he bitched, big deal.  If I was out there and losing and I had a chance to help my team by bitching, I’d do it too.

    Hey fair enough.  I like Toews as well.  We’ll see what he can do this year.  He’s been dynamite so far.  However to compare him to Crosby in this playoff year may be a bit much considering how stacked the Blackhawks are.

    I’ll leave the Pronger stuff alone.  I’ve always liked the way he plays, and I would argue that nobody fights him because they’d get their asses kicked. 

  65. Bugs says:

    Hot dog! This ain’t Ovie’s year, is it?

    Agitated but regulated, I aspire as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Undersecretary of North-East Division Propaganda Bureau, Section Chief of Flannel Department, and Field Operative for Habsbros Data Dissemination Services:

  66. Bugs says:

    Oh, did the Czechs win gold? Awright. That’s the IIHF, right? That’s cool.

    Who’d they beat?

    Agitated but regulated, I aspire as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Undersecretary of North-East Division Propaganda Bureau, Section Chief of Flannel Department, and Field Operative for Habsbros Data Dissemination Services:

  67. Peterborough Habs Fan says:

    So Pronger can cross check a guy straight into the boards, then grab him when he tries to get up. Am I missing something or did Bettman/NBC have their way again?

    An abysmal effort by the Habs. I ran into Greg Millen yesterday here in Peterborough and he shakes his head at the officiating.

  68. SeriousFan09 says:

    If you’re winning, the cheap stuff is inexcusable, you’re winning, behave something like a damn professional like you are being millions of dollars to do.

    I don’t like Pronger because he’s cheap, he’s dirty and he would never fight with someone who could actually hurt him if it came down to it. That is a coward, a man who chooses to hit dirty and never face the consequences, that’s the new breed of coward in the NHL, the ‘tough guy’ who hits hard but avoids anyone who might actually make them pay for it. Pronger has gone after plenty of vulnerable players because he can.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  69. Slovak says:

    I don’t like Czech team style of play, so I don’t care if they are goldmedal or anymedal winners.

    But I still believe HABS can win next game – that is enough perspective right now.

    Let Halak alone and throw everything in the front of that big potato

    Potato must be fried

  70. hablifting says:

    You and I are about as different of hockey fans as it gets.

    I don’t mind the cheap stuff as long as it’s not done by the losing team, that still has a chance, with the clock winding down.  That’s just stupid.  I accept that hockey players are imperfect and they will lose their tempers from time to time.  It happens, you’d be an idiot to think otherwise.

    Meanwhile, Pronger is a great player who catches as much flak as he does because he *is* so good.  I would take him on the Habs in a heartbeat.  Exactly the kind of guy we’ve been missing for 17+ years.

  71. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ovechkin had ten times the class of Crosby in our two respective series with the two superstars I’d say.

    Canada doesn’t have stupid players? The two most notorious attempts at murder on the ice this year were by Canadian players (Cook, Richards) trying to scramble brains. Chris Pronger’s elite play keeps him in the NHL despite his cheap shot garbage throughout his career. Scott Stevens idea of a good hit was taking the head off. The most notorious cheap shot in International Hockey history was Clarke on Kharlamov…

    Canadians produce plenty of dirtbags, it’s happening at the Junior Level and becoming a damn epidemic, Kassian, Liambas, Cormier, the OHL Finals… I’d say we have the market cornered on the filth of the NHL.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  72. hablifting says:

    Meh, the shit I just watched is classic cheap shot Russian play.  No other country has players that stupid.

  73. SeriousFan09 says:

    Unlike all those classy Canadian players who never do anything dirty when they’re losing…



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  74. SlovakHab says:

    No gold for Ovechkin, Russia.

    The Czechs are world champions as they beat Russia 2-1 in the WC finals.

  75. hablifting says:

    Watching the scum bag Russians lose and cheap shot left and right as the clock winds down, never gets old.

    Ovy still can’t win anything, even with his stacked teams.

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