Video: 64 minutes of Sunday ‘fun’

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Canadiens’ Lars Eller is stoned from in close by Washington goalie Braden Holtby.
Pierre Obendrauf, Gazette

Canadiens head coach Jacques Martin ran his team through a 64-minute Brossard practice on Sunday – skating them, skating them and skating them some more.

There was a lengthy skating session to begin, then 1-on-1 and 2-on-0 drills. More skating, a short bit of drilling by lines, more skating, some hard 1-on-1 battling in the corners, and plenty more skating. The hour-plus practice ended with wind sprints that drained whatever the Habs had left in them.

Goalies Carey Price and Alex Auld were excused from the skating. As they should have been, since the team’s plight of late, without a goal the past three games, hasn’t been in any way connected to them.

Everyone will have the day off Monday, then return to action at home Tuesday vs. the Atlanta Thrashers. The team is in Carolina Wednesday, returning home to practice before finishing off their week Saturday in New Jersey.

Lines practised on Sunday, not that there was much in this regard: Cammalleri-Plekanec-Halpern; Darche-Gomez-Gionta; Pouliot-Desharnais-White; Kostitsyn-Eller-Moen. Alexandre Picard, in the clinic having work done on an injured foot, was the only player not on the ice.

Video from the dressing room post-practice will appear here as it’s processed. Look for Subban (two), Sopel, Price and Cammalleri.

256 Comments

  1. christophor says:

    “Gomez is the oldest 30 year-old that the NHL has seen.”
    -Brian Wilde from Habs Fever

    • petefleet says:

      As I said, the old system.
      The difference between then and now is that they aren’t scoring. You would never want to start the playoffs in a funk, especially against a statistically better team.
      I do like your optimism though.

      ***Habs Forever***

  2. Mattyleg says:

    Hard times bein’ a Habs fan at the moment.
    Hope our boys make it easier pretty soon.
    Going to be a long spring otherwise…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  3. HardHabits says:

    Anybody else think this Fig Newton guy is the same person who posts as Jeff. You know the Leafs fan. And that both these guys are actually observer.

  4. christophor says:

    Bad time. Wait till after a win so you don’t redirect all of the animosity of HIO toward whatever it is you’re plugging.

    Marketing 101 right there.

  5. Bugs says:

    Yeah, ok, I’ll have a cheeseburger.

    Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

  6. HNS says:

    You should send the link to FigNewton. He ripped his skirt earlier.

  7. Kristopher7 says:

    That could have been said without cursing, congratulations.

  8. samTHEman says:

    Who’s going to break this loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong scoring slump?

    My guess is Pleky

  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Globe and Mail feature on concussions and the biology if it, including talk of how devastating a 2nd concussion can be if a person has not fully recovered from their last one.

    http://bit.ly/g1FcKU

    Why I want Pax resting for next season.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • EricInStL says:

      Agreed. It would be bad PR for him to come back considering Geoff’s stand on player safety.

      And we all know how the Canadiens love bad PR…. :O)

      “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

    • badbalance says:

      Apparently his concussion was not that bad. It was nowhere near how badly Crosby had it. I’m sure the Habs are approaching the situation carefully and know that he should be fine if he comes back, why on earth would they make a kid play if he is in danger of getting a concussion more severe. The medical staff knows more than us and will figure it out..

      ╥Long live the system╥

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        The severity of a concussion isn’t necessarily reflected by the severity of post-concussion syndrome. Max was knocked unconscious, I think that automatically makes the concussion fairly severe. Correct me if I’m wrong though…

        • solomio says:

          A person gets knocKed out when his brain hits his skull caused by the hit to the head.The brain is then said to be concussed.And indeed Max;s head was severely concussed by the stantion.That doesn;’t necessarily mean that his brain was severely concussed.
          Its a question of how hard the brain slams into the skull and the consequent affects.And YMMV

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Thanks for the link Robert.!

    • NoTinFoilCups says:

      An interesting read. Obviously the science has a way to go. You are right. Better to err on the side of caution.

  10. samTHEman says:

    76 games into the season and we sit 6th in the East. I laugh at everyone who is begging JM to be fired or Gomez scratched. Were you born yesterday? The problem is much bigger than that, why can’t you see? The over-all confidence and team morale is at an all time low. Anyone who says JM should be fired is a complete moron. His system has frustrated so many teams (and with the help of Carey-P). Don’t forget we are 2-0 against the #1 Canucks and 4-2 vs. the Bruins this season. The team is in a funk, that’s all. Better to deal with this now than in the playoffs. Yeah, because scratching Gomez will miraculously give all of our forwards wings on the ice. Please… What world do you live in?

    • doogie says:

      Face the music Sam, Mr. Gomez was a good player but he’s well past his prime. Fans know it, the stats show it. He can’t score goals anymore, he can skate like the wind but his numbers don’t warrant a roster spot any more. Keeping him on this team in 2011/2012 would be for all the wrong reasons.

      • samTHEman says:

        I’m by no means saying that I fancy Gomez. But the reality is benching him won’t suddenly grant the team scoring prowess.

        • HardHabits says:

          No but it’ll stop JM from playing Gomez 20+ minutes per game which isn’t granting the team any scoring prowess either.

          • samTHEman says:

            That’s fine. Cut down his minutes and give him a more confined and limited role, in turn give Dezzy and Eller more PP time. Scratching him won’t bode well in the locker room especially to guys like Gill and Gionta.

        • solomio says:

          If guys get playing time due to performance and production then should Gomez be playing at all?

    • HardHabits says:

      Let’s see if the Habs can at least score a goal before we plan the parade.

      As for Gomez. Did you see him last game (also Plex) whining and chirping at the refs. What’s worse is Gomez telling AK46 that his pass was 10 feet behind him because of some hack he received. It was all there on RDS. Then RDS replayed the moment and lo and behold. Nothing from defender just a lazy play by Gomez.

      Gomez can redeem himself by hoisting the Cup after scoring the SCF series winning goal. Anything less than that right now means he’s not worthy to even be a Hamilton Bulldog.

      • Exit716 says:

        I thought it was the legendary sniper Halpern on that play when Gomez hit the board with his awesome pass. The clowns on CBC were trying to defend it too, saying Gomez thought Halpern was going to one-time the shot. Whatever. $7 million cap hit for a guy that can’t even produce at a fourth line level. Thanks Bob.

  11. doogie says:

    Put your money on the Habbies this Tuesday night! I can feel this one going into the W column. JM sent the message today and from all video accounts, the players didn’t seem to dispute the need for the “puke-skate” practice today. Watch for a huge effort against the Thrashers. This is a “eggshells” team at the moment and needs to hear a thunderous ovation when they hit the ice. C’mon folks- 2 pts and we’re heading in the right direction again.

    Some of these playoff teams haven’t had the adversity of this Habs team- the injuries or the slides – as this team has; once the playoffs start, they’ll find their game and surprise a few folks. Gotta believe.

    And please, let’s get rid of this pretty skater guy Gomez! Gawdawful!

    • EricInStL says:

      The “fans” will applaud at the beginning and then jump on them as soon as it doesn’t go right.

      So Atlanta’s game plan is to do everything to get the fans on the Habs. Something like kill a penalty and score a goal.

      “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  12. Spartan117 says:

    Whats sad is that my lil bro was supposed to go to a breakfast with the habs this morning.. but most werent there and had to leave early because of the practice… my 10 y/o bro was upset.

    • larisalapointe says:

      Poor kid…I’d be disappointed too even though I’m an “adult”.

    • Habfan4lfe says:

      Skating them into the ground? What’s the point of that? I would have been expecting them to heavily work on their attack and defence and fix serious mistakes happening. I think Martin has lost control of this team.

      • Chuck says:

        You’re suggesting that he lost control of the team over the span of three games?

        • HardHabits says:

          If JM wants to regain control of his team maybe he should make them eat some fibre so they can stop shitting themselves.

          JM has lost his team. Last game did not look like a team that likes playing for him or each other. Why are Plex and Gomez constantly whining at the referees? I was hoping the refs would’ve turned around and penalized them for game misconduct. Do either of them wear a “C”?

          I can tell you why though. Because JM doesn’t. He just sits there with his canned responses about special teams, goal-tending and going to the net and when the refs screw the Habs over he takes out his little pad and writes a not to himself.

          Something is very wrong with this team. They seem to have caught a major dose of Boston fever. What do you expect when Gainey blows more than 1/3 of the cap on Gomez, Gio, and Cammy?

          Last season the Habs had the element of surprise. This year every one knows their one trick pony game.

          God I hope you guys are right and I am wrong!!!

  13. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Bench the Alaskan.
    Fire JM.

  14. wotever says:

    In my mind the argument against booing is a parallel for Pascal’s argument for belief, except the terms are booing vs not-booing (cheer.) and it helping vs not helping team performance.

    You can not boo (i.e. cheer?) and it will not help.
    You can not boo and it will help.
    You can boo and it will not help.
    You can boo and it will help.

    I think the only interesting arguments are the ones where it helps – although it might be worth examining helps vs no effect vs hurts, but I’m trying to keep the argument simple – so that only leaves the choice to boo or not to boo and it helps.

    Considering the possibility that booing helps: do you think they don’t they’re not playing well? What information are you transferring above and beyond what the coaching staff, their teammates ie the experts, oh and the scoreboard are telling them. Because how else will booing provide a meaningful feedback that will help them correct the incorrect behaviours?

    Consider that not-booing helps: I think cheering is better expressed here, but chanting might be a better way to express this. I believe a sports psychologist would draw upon past successful experiences and have the player draw upon that. Part of successful experiences is definitely the strong audio environment of the Bell Centre. And they’ll still know when they futz up because the staff and teammates will let them know. But it will be easier to get back on track.

    In pro-sports spectators desperately want some control in a game they only have one means of affecting – their audio environment. The game is being played and managed by people who have vastly more experience than the fans (mostly) in hockey and especially hockey at that level, who actually have to do the hard part of rubber-hitting-road-hitting-shoulder-pad. Let them do their job. Help them do their job.

    Booing to me is just a selfish move by fans undermining the team so they can feel better about the money but not realizing they’re poisoning the well at the same time.

    Edit: spectators can also affect the game by not going – irrelevant to this argument because they’re not present. It is a more macroscopic effect than this argument examines.


    It’s just a game.

    • thebigguy says:

      But like Pascal’s wager, you’re missing out on some incredible experiences (sin, expressing emotion) by not participating on the unlikely chance that it actually makes a difference.

    • Bugs says:

      Totally disagree.
      If the fans don’t fill the arena, there’s no team. Been that way for 100 years in this city. This ain’t Nashville; this ain’t Columbus. This is Montreal, where this game is a part of our heritage, our culture, heck, our whole dang society.
      You overcook the turkey for X-Mas supper, your family’ll still eat it. You overcook the turkey at Chez Chic Toulouse on a Monday afternoon, the chef’ll friggin KILL you, yes? Well, we’re Chez Chic Toulouse in this scenario.
      The Habs play for us. And playing like crap ain’t GOOD ENOUGH for us. So the fans (without whom, there would BE no team, remember) are PERFECTLY entitled to let the players KNOW they’re playing like crap and that it’s not good enough. And the most efficient way to do that is to boo them down WHILE they’re playing like crap so that there’s absolutely NO DOUBT as to the reasons between cause and effect.
      Nothing is stopping you or anyone from writing a delicately-worded treaty exposing certain faults you’d like to address concerning their play and sending it sealed by the House of Commons and by diplomatic courrier if you fear upsetting their poor little egos, Wottie, but rest assured, these guys are professionnals, they knew what they were gettin into, they can take the booing, and if they can’t, we don’t want’em here.
      Cuz if that’s REALLY a problem, then I’m sure Nashville and Columbus would just LOVE to have’em and no one’ll boo them and they’ll win lots’n’lotsa Stanley Cups in peaceful no-one-gives-a-dang-about-hockey harmony.
      But here, we’re gonna boo when they play like crap, ESPECIALLY after three scoreless games. Call us hotheaded. But that’s the way it is and that’s it.
      Sorry.
      Tell’em not to overcook the turkey and there won’t be a problem.

      Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

      • wotever says:

        then I’m sure Nashville and Columbus would just LOVE to have’em and no one’ll boo them and they’ll win lots’n’lotsa Stanley Cups in peaceful no-one-gives-a-dang-about-hockey harmony.

        From the mouth of babes, er, Bugs. Yes that is exactly what will happen, exactly my point. And Montreal fans will whine on about their 24 cups and never see another one.

        As the league has matured, parity was introduced to remove dynasties because it is bad for the league. Which means when we play teams that support the fans during hard times our team has to win _despite_ the fans.

        The booers have an abusive relationship with the players. They’re quite happy to strike _another_ blow when the players need support.

        I suppose if some people feel entitled to boo, boo at the end. Don’t boo _during_ the game, don’t boo players. You’re not helping.

        It’s just a game.

        • Bugs says:

          You missed the point SPECTACULARLY, Wottie.
          There’s no Cup-winnin goin on Nashville and Columbus is what I’m saying, and the lack of booin ain’t the reason why.
          Quite the contrary in fact.

          Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

    • Norm0770 says:

      Booing the entire team for a sub-par perofrmance is perfectly acceptable. Saturday was not booing for no reason, the team stunk… for the 3rd game in a row. The players played poorly, the crowd knew it, and let the players know (if they didn’t already).

      Booing is not acceptable when it is the “our favourite whipping boy is touching the puck” like the Brisebois… Only boo once he makes a mistake, don’t boo to try and promt a mistake…

  15. HNS says:

    NESN announcers are total tools.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Water is also wet I hear.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Steven says:

      Most Bruins fans I know enjoy that their team injures other teams’ players. Probably even like Marchand…

      So, it’s not much of a surprise :P

      • samTHEman says:

        Congrats on clinching a spot against the team which you blew a 3-0 series lead and a 3-0 lead in game 7 after period #1. Cya in the playoffs

        • Fig Newton says:

          Yeah, the same team you lost to last year.

          Maybe we’ll see you there…IF you make the playoffs. Doubtful, though. Everyone behind you is winning. You are losing. You are quickly running out of games.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I don’t recall Plekanec violently riding someone’s head into a stanchtion and then blaming the guy for jumping into it. Boston, a pack of hypocrites and bullies as always.

        Headshots are evil and the guys who carry them out should be banned for life when Bergeron or Savard are fighting to regain their hopes of a professional career, but fun to laugh at when it happens to other players or they are ‘faking it’. Milan Lucic, ‘ultimate tough guy’, the Habs he’s wanted to scrap with this season? PK Subban and Ben Pouliot, non-fighters while Paul Mara and Travis Moen are left alone. Johnny Boychuk and Shawn Thornton show off tough they are by attacking Jaro Spacek and Roman Hamrlik, Greg Campbell needs his elbow pad to beat up Tom Pyatt.

        Your team’s specialty is blowing it in the playoffs as usual, have fun being upset, again. Most epic collapse in playoff history in decades occured with Boston.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • HardHabits says:

        How can you possibly not realize that Boston is made up of neanderthals. Oh, that’s because you’re a troglodyte who doesn’t have half a brain to think with. Chara is friggin’ Frankenstein and Lucic is quasimodo.

        Marchand is not only ugly, stupid and yappy but he is a dirty douchebag asking to be suspended.

        Watch for yourself:
        Brad Marchand vs Scott Gomez (24-3-2011)

        I hope we meet in the 1st round. The Habs are not winning the Cup this year but just knocking you morons out would redeem this season.

        • Fig Newton says:

          Sticks and stones…

          I bet you are one of those who called 911, aren’t you?

          You need to get into the playoffs first. After you tie and break your shutout record on Tues & Wed you’ll be celebrating when your gals score a goal, never mind making it to the playoffs.

        • HardHabits says:

          @Fig Newton – So what of the Habs miss the play-offs. I am not a person to call 911 idiot. Look at my name. Read my posts. I want to see the Habs build a team like the good old days when we spelled Bitch as Bruins with a “B”. Come and troll here all you want. ANd you know what? You are right. The Habs are girlie men. Their fans went over board with the 911 thing. I never participated in either riots but I was there in ’86 and ’93. I also watched the Bruins lose to the Flyers in 74 and that hurt because back then I respected the Bruins as much as hated them but not nearly as much as I hated Bobby Clarke and his Flyers.

          The Bruins are a very good team and yes they bitch slapped the Habs. I admit it. I still think we’d take you out in the 1st round just because it has happened so many times in our 2 teams history. I understand your hatred for the Habs. We are the Yankees of Hockey without the budget.

          So talk smack all you want. You’ll disappear as soon as the Bruins get ousted like all cowards and bullies do when they meet a tougher opponent or get the shit kicked out of them.

      • Propwash says:

        Well, enjoy the chokefest that is the ‘ruins

      • Chuck says:

        just TWO Stanley Cups in the last 68 years. Who are the Bruins going to choke against this year?

      • HNS says:

        Hey, our Bitch is here. Guess there are not enough Booin fans to support a site if you r hangin here. Why don’t you go practice the Heimlich for another classic choke. That was so sweet. Take your 2 cups and go home.

        • Mr. Biter says:

          Aww you took then words right out of my post. 2 wins 4 losses vs the Habs this year, blowing (or getting blow’en by a Bruin in Fig’s case) a 3-0 lead in games and a 3 -0 lead in game 4 vs the Flyers The Bruins besides being our Bitch seem to also be the Flyers.
          BTW is it Fig or Fag?

          Mr. Biter

          • Fig Newton says:

            Sorry, we beat the conference leading Flyers last night. A win made even sweeter by the fact that Marchand got the game-winner.

            Now, let’s see, who was it that scored your last goal? Been so long it’s hard to remember. Keep on chatting it up last year. Not much worth talking about in Montreal this year, is there? Other than how bad Go-Go-Gomez is…

            It’s Fig, by the way. You seem to have trouble with that first-grade level spelling, don’t you?

      • HNS says:

        2 cups in 68, make that 69 years. Enjoy!

      • neil4now says:

        you’re in for a long wait for the Montreal gals to implode. There’s plenty of those in Boston, what you waiting for. Go get em tiger!!

      • Top Corner says:

        ??? Ummm , Hortons face was inches from the ice !!! I still dont understand how thats a high stick when it made contact next to the ice surface…..after marchand couldnt even take down little ol Plekky….he should learn how to finish a check !!

        Mabye you were hoping Plek’s would have grabbed his jersey , flung him around into the STANCHION , slice his head clear of at the neck , thus making for a “good hockey play”…you knaww , the play that draws crowds in bawwwston…..crowds that havnt showed in 30+ yrs.

        You guys have put a lot of pressure on yourselves…..dont fudge it up !!! Flopper’s next to retirement….chara’s hips might last another full season….and all your rentals have done exactly what i thought they would…..Kaberle and Kelly are not bringing home a Stanley Cup !!!!

        • Fig Newton says:

          Ummmmm…perhaps you need an eye exam, Skippy. He looks right at Horton and deliberately slashes him in the face. But, apparently that’s ok in the Canadiens playbook.

          I guess slashing someone intentionally in the face doesn’t constitute targeting the head. Go figure. Not surprised by the double standard in Habville.

  16. SeriousFan09 says:

    Here’s my latest picks for the Habs in the draft and will reiterate, I think the Habs need to work hard to land another 1st-round pick b/c of these two players.

    1. LW Nicklas Jensen:
    OHL Card: http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/roster/show/id/6835

    Jensen is a two-way forward with good offensive upside, his skating needs some work but he offers strong potential of a Top-6 winger with finesse abilities, but also some power forward talent.

    2. Mark McNeill
    WHL Card: http://www.whl.ca/roster/show/id/555

    The next Pacioretty? Maybe, he’s a hard-nosed, two-way player who’s had a dramatically improved season in the WHL this year compared to his rookie output on a Prince Albert team that really isn’t much. People want more Paciorettys or Backes’ on the squad, he’s a solid choice.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  17. larisalapointe says:

    Philly fans booing their team who have 100 points and a guaranteed spot in the POs. So who has the worst fans?

    And I can’t believe fugly scored the winning goal.

    • BKAK72 says:

      Physical assault is the line that can not be breached by “the fan” otherwise we may cheer/jeer to our hearts delight b/c “the fan” creates the business environment for a professional athlete to exist.

      No fan = No professional athlete

      — HABS INSIDE/OUT R.I.P. –

      • wotever says:

        The strawman involving physical assault is irrelevant.

        You are right that the business is forced to react to a majority action by fans with dollars – but there is no link with cheering and jeering. And a reaction is predicated by a mass action by fans (at least as far as Canadian teams) and probably by an inferior product, which is hard to demonstrate with the Canadiens.

        Toronto has shown that even if booing the people will pay, and it will not improve the product.

  18. habs365 says:

    Skating do not produce scoring skills. JM can do that till he’s blue in the face, they’ll be in better shape, and it may send a message it’s about skill, you either got it or you don’t, that don’t mean you can’t be a hockey player, you’ll be a 15 goal scorer not a 30 goal scorer and that’s our main problem too many 10 – 15 goal scores sorry people that’s gonna be the reason for our early exit from the playoffs.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      A shooting practise if there is such a thing would be warrented. Wood goalie with corners and five hole cut out. Would anyone score? Seriously we’ll probably score 5 or 6 next game (law of averages) and the world will be good again. (Hopefully) and Fag Newton crawls back to his gay bar in Boston.

      Mr. Biter

  19. Rejean says:

    I was looking at Stubbs’ tweet last night showing the roster the last time Habs were shutout three straight games.. Guys like Richard and Harvey on the team.. Guess they turned out to be okay?!?! Look, no one wants to go through this but this is a veteran group that WILL figure it out. A good solid game or two or three prior to playoffs is all that’s needed..

  20. HardHabits says:

    Since I have reverted to being a Timonist I must at least show some signs of being positive to appease the Glorieuxgoisie so here it is, my line combos:

    Cammy-Plekanec-Gionta
    AK46-Eller-Moen
    Pouliot-Halpern-Darche
    White-DD-Gomez (yes Gomez on the wing)

    • chanchilla says:

      the reason the ak/eller/moen line was successful because they played against the 3rd and 4th lines, put them on the ice against second liners and you’ll find they wont be nearly as effective.

      • TripleX says:

        Has Gomez been effective? I am betting they can’t be worse and might very well be a lot better. You could be right. But what gets me is that JM won’t even try.

  21. habs365 says:

    Every one should tell it the way they see it and that’s what Timo does. nothing wrong with it if other people don’t like it too bad. from reading Timo’s comments I would say 90% of the time he’s right on.

    • OneTimer says:

      He’s whiny, and his repertoire consists of three songs:

      1. Gomez sucks!
      2. The Habs suck!
      3. Cammy sucks! (new hit single)

      Any of his posts falls into one of these three categories. But sure, defend the guy why don’t ya. :)

  22. smiler2729 says:

    Once again, when the Habs are winning, Montreal is the greatest place to play hockey and when they’re losing, it’s freakin’ hell on Earth.

    *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

    • breton 123 says:

      I am sick of the small smurfs,they cant play in this new NHL and the same goes for the Euro,We need home growing players..I cant see anything happening for at least 3 more yrs.Offer Markov 2mil maybe 3 if he can last a year.or tell him to take a hike.What a mess the team is in Sopal what a waist of money and till Wisk time to take the tots cage of and put on a visar.Keep Subban,Pac.Price,White and Georges tell the rest bye bye.

  23. habs001 says:

    i still believe gion is a very usefull player…his 26 goals this year is the 3rd best in his career…his second best was 28 last year…he is still a very good piece on a team…

    • TripleX says:

      I tend to agree but not at his pay grade. When you have a group of players making more than their market value. Well that is a problem in a hard cap system.

  24. Jonson says:

    i know i was the only one upset about losing Maxwell for Sopel but he was the number one star today against ottawa. scoring a goal and adding an assist. i know its early to predict anything but i really feel like we gave up a really good hockey player for a mediocre dman.

    • smiler2729 says:

      The Habs really needed defensive help and Maxwell was the price paid for Sopel.

      Besides it wasn’t like Maxwell was doing anything in his callups to warrant a longer look.

      It is what it is.

      *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

  25. habstrinifan says:

    Alchemy for our next goal….. A beauty of a PP goal.

    Bench Subban! Park DD in front of the NET on the PP. WIZ plays both points simultaneously and conjunctively. Pouliot takes the face-offs, falls down extemporaneously while Gomez gathers the puck and with a nonchalant, lasissez faire smirk backpasses to DD’s skate which deflects la rondelle into the net.

    The Bell Centre goes ghostly quiet… a) they dont think it’s a goal b) they are in disbelief that a puck has actually gone into the oppositon net.

    The referee calls for a video replay. There is a long pause as the HOGTOWN committee examines the video. They couldnt see DD move his feet. In fact they couldnt see any part of DD amid the huge ATLANTA d-men.

    It’s a GOAL!

    Delirium reigns in the Bell Centre. Old men are hugging and weeping. Boone blogs about a ‘vague chemistry’ between Gomez and DD.

    JM scribbles. Did I say JM scribbles?

    Gomez goes to retrieve the puck but somehow loses it. Don Cherry bombasts “see they dont need what’s his name?”.

    Hockeyinsideout’s bandwidth is overloaded with comments and responses re les glorieux and Gomez’s breakout game as he sets up for the playoffs, and what it would take to keep the WIZ and do we need Markov, and JM’s vindication in handling DD.

    Meanwhile JM stands unemotionally behind the bench, as stiffed neck as a Victorian dowager. And scibbles. Did I say and scribbles?

  26. Chuck says:

    Apparently, HardHabits is the new Timo. :)

    • Rob says:

      Ouch. You shouldn’t insult Timo like that! seriously though….as much as some people dislike Timo, at least he’s consistent in his message

      The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

    • HardHabits says:

      There are two types of posters here, the critical pessimists to which Timo and I, at the moment, belong. Actually, Timo is always a critical pessimist regardless of how well the Habs do. I only become one when the team actually warrants it. Like now. Then there are the apologists like you, PrimeTime, Ian, HabsfaninVan, etc. Those who see the 7-0 drubbing and the bean town beat down as good things. You guys see a 3 game streak where the team can’ score as a blip. You see a team that gets its ass kicked all over the league as minor inconvenience.

      There was a reason Boone flipped a coin last season to determine who would be banished between Timo and I. At least I am not dragging out stats from 1928 to prove a point.

      I haven’t seen such an implosion since the Centennial. There should only be one of those per Habs fan life time. Two in three years is a disgrace.

      • Chuck says:

        A) Losing to Boston was not a good thing, nor did I say that it was. My point was that it was at least in part understandable, and that the result should be put into context.

        B) Same goes for being shutout three times in a row. It’s happened to the Habs three times in over 100 years. While it sucks that the team is in a scoring slump, it’s the kind of slump that happens once in a generation. So yeah, in the grand scheme of things, it’s a blip.

        The team will score again, life will go on,and another 30 years or so from now our kids will be posting here wondering how the team could suck so bad as to go scoreless for 180 minutes. In the meantime, there will be a lot of good to celebrate. Lighten up a little.

  27. Sheldon says:

    That stuff only works with kids or professional who respect their craft. The Habs have neither for the most part. Gomez is a poster boy and Martin in a poster-middle-aged poster boy for why they suck!!!

  28. Guy-Guy-Guy says:

    The problem with the habs offence is twofold:

    – the veterans on this team have been overused this year and / or in a slump. Pleks, Gionta, Gomez, Cammaleri

    -JM doesn’t trust rookies, and cuts them off as soon a the going gets though. Despite this, Eller and DD have survived their first year in the NHL and are improving their game quickly. They have a lot of energy, and are hungry for ice time.

    The sloution seems simple. Spread the talent and the grit around and roll with 4 lines. Keep everyone fresh. Let the players police each other and the rookies learn.

    This is the interim step to demoting gomez.

    Cammy-pleks-Darche
    Gionta-eller-Moen
    Halpern-gomez-pouliot
    White-DD-AK46

  29. SeriousFan09 says:

    Some late-year prospect projecting and the long and short of it is: No Pacioretty-type impact will be joining the team off the farm next year save the possible recruitment of Alexei Yemelin.

    Palushaj showed in his brief window he needs to get stronger to stay in the show. If Engqvist comes off the farm, he’s a 4th-line centre and we shouldn’t expect Franzen or Holmstrom. Brendon Nash is not as good as he was earlier in the season, adjusting to the long schedule means he needs at least another year in the A. Conboy, Dumont, Avtsin all need a lot more time. Leblanc needs more polish, expect Hamilton for a year and a half at the least. Kristo, it’s possible he’s taking a 3rd year at North Dakota (Not the end of the world, Cammy spent 3 years with Michigan). Gallagher isn’t even finished his Major Junior commitments yet and neither has Bournival or Ellis, Tinordi needs more OHL time anyway.

    Reiterate my thought DD and Weber need to be used for picks/prospects acquisitions as the Habs work to get more Ellers and Paciorettys in the system.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • HardHabits says:

      The best trade-able assets I am willing to part with are Cammy and Plex. If Gio could be traded for a 2nd rounder the Habs should go for it. Gomez needs to be dumped at all costs. It would take 1-2 seasons in the draft lottery to rebuild this franchise properly if the Smurfs are discarded and other assets are traded for picks and/or prospects. I am beginning to be of the opinion that there wont be a Cup until Gomez is gone. I had hoped he would hoist the Cup as a Hab to vindicate BG but I now believe Gomez is done as an NHLer. He’s at best a 3rd line centre who could maybe garner 2.5 million per year.

      There’s still the play-offs to vindicate this team but they look like they hate each other right now. Which is understandable because most Habs fans hate them too. Not for losing but for the way they are losing.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        We’re going to pick a guy in the 2nd round who’s going to be better than Gionta in a soft draft year? HH your hidden optimism shines through again!!!

        If it were up to me, the Habs would go hard for a 2nd 1st-round pick in this year’s draft so they draft Nicklas Jensen and Mark McNeill. Jensen has a solid two-way game with good scoring upside while McNeill is the kind of Backes-type of player we need to add so MTL doesn’t just have one Pacioretty, but two.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • smiler2729 says:

      Out of curiosity, what ever happened to David Fischer? I know the Habs cut him loose but where did he wind up?

      *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

  30. HardHabits says:

    The Habs are at the moment a team that is unsure of itself. They are depressed. Morally wounded. They are not getting any support from the coach and worse the coach is repeating the same mistakes that put them in this position they are currently in right now.

    Why does JM constantly break up lines that work? Why is it that every time the Habs look like they are starting to generate some momentum they either take a weak penalty or JM puts Gomez back out there?

    Gomez is a major problem. His personal frustrations and negative energy are bringing down the whole team. He is not a number 1 centre. He is not even a #2. He’s at best a 3rd line or checking centre (minus Pacioretty, who could score with any centre in the league so don’t think Gomez is important in any line that includes Patches) and the sooner the Habs start using Gomez at least in way that makes him useful the sooner the Habs can get out of this funk they’re in.

    The Habs as a team are defeated. I seriously doubt they have any wins left in them. They are a wounded animal and all the rest of the carnivores in the animal kingdom know it.

  31. Rocketman says:

    The Einstein cliche is the only appropriate words here – the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and thinking you will get a different result. JM and PM are not creative or talented enough to do the right thing for this team. The owner must stand up and take charge and get rid of the mediocre and start giving the franchise a chance to achieve what it needs – a CUP! JM does not know what it takes. When the Canadiens let Boucher go to Tampa they were saying we do not care, we are making money as a franchise. It is time for fans to stop respecting these decisions and stop being part of the 21,273.

    DDR

  32. EricInStL says:

    Skating is not the problem with this team.
    A strategy to score goals is.
    This team is a perimeter team, with no size to bother the goaler. No kidding they are laughing. Jeez a Bantam would probably get a shutout seeing how the shots are easy to see.

    So from now on, I will wait before criticizing JM. Let’s see what happens in the playoffs.

    No use saying anything it’s wasted breath. Good luck Habs.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

    • TripleX says:

      Good points. The big change in the NHL is that there really are no BAD goalies. Every goalie will stop most shots he can see. I don’t know if it is the equipment or simply that goalies now are all taught proper technique. To score consistenly means jamming the net for deflections and getting second and third chances. Perimeter play = shut outs.

  33. LA Loyalist says:

    If I am Geoff Molson, and unfortunately I’m not, I walk into my office tomorrow morning and do 3 things:

    1. Open a cold one.
    2. Write Scott Gomez and Gio-I’m-Not-a-Captain checks to buy out their contracts. Thanks and good luck.
    3. Fire Jacques/Jack Martin – his severance check depending on allowing us to see what’s in his little black notebook. (buy yogurt, eat more fibre, buy PG some of those organic biscuits he likes)

    4. Promote Kirk Muller to coach and tell him that in Montreal it’s ok to play Montreal style hockey which is ATTACK and go the F* out and do it. Hand him a cold one.

    Call in PG and tell him to spend the summer getting Muller some freaking male Canadian hockey players and we don’t give a cr*p if they don’t even know who our goalie is because they spend all their time in the other teams zone ATTACKING!!!

    Take off the rose colored glasses, put them on the floor and stomp on them! We have some talent. We have the summer to re-tool. We have some great kids in the pipeline. We can do this.

    Go Habs! Nice work Mr. Molson, have another wet one.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      When did JM ever have a goalie in Ottawa that could make a critical stop? Short answer, NEVER in an era of hockey that was defined by goaltending.

      Nothing wrong with Gionta, you need to get over the fact that Koivu isn’t here anymore. He plays a good game and has delivered, not his fault he’s been attached to boat-anchor Gomez all season.

      Shouldn’t matter where the players are from either. You find the best players regardless of where they’re born. All-out attack doesn’t work either, see what the Washington Capitals have done to reinvent themselves this season, right now they’re a Cup Threat because of their 2-way game. TBL will be bounced by the 2nd round at best because of their lack of a defensive system.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • HardHabits says:

        Washington is threat because they are stocked with talent. Their defensive game only makes them harder to play against. No way Montreal wins another series against them now.

        There are many facets to building a championship. The Habs are not employing many of them. JM’s style was successful in another era and most coaches know how to nullify it.

        At least TB will make the 2nd round. I am still concerned the Habs will miss the play-offs because they don’t even look like a team that can score let alone win.

        Gionta is not a good captain either. BTW, nice tagline to be insulting another Koivu fan.

        TB went from being out of the play-offs to being one of the better teams in the East. The Habs? They remained in neutral. Same old same old. More injuries. Less offense. Boring uncreative hockey and what’s worse is the thugs continue to brutalize them as a team and the other run and gun teams that have the super stars are now learning to play defense.

        The Habs are at a serious disadvantage in the NHL with Cammy, Gionta and Gomez sucking 1/3 of their pay roll. IMO it’s only going to get worse. Not bad enough for the draft lottery. Just bad enough to be a perpetual 8th place team that if it’s lucky makes it to the 2nd round or worse coming in at 9th or 10th.

        As a fan since ’73 I say, “no thanks!”

        I give this experiment until next trade dead-line. If nothing moves up and I mean significantly I hope Molson steps in says, “enough is enough,” and starts the selling process. Move out Gio, Cammy and Plekanec and either dump, buy-out or send to the minors Gomez. Yes I am pissed.

        The tanking team I envisioned would have never lost three games by shut-out nor would they have been brutalized by the Bruins. They would have lost a bunch of 2-1 and 3-2 games and won a few of those too. They would’ve developed an identity and character and slowly started adding the requisite parts to building championship. Instead ll we have is perennial middle of the pack team that will never finish in the top 5, which is where the championships go.

        This core of the Habs is the wrong way to go in the NHL. Everyone knows it and they’ve exploited it. We Habs fans suffer because of it.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          Washington was stocked with talent in 2009 and 2010 as well. They still lost their playoff series after holding solid leads because they didn’t have any kind of solid defensive strategy. Habs of 09-10 would not beat this year’s Capitals if they played them in a playoff series.

          TBL may make the 2nd round only if they can run up the scoring (Which helps when you St Louis and Stamkos as your top forwards!) and the other team doesn’t stifle them with defence, an aspect of the game they lack in.

          How do you know Gionta isn’t a good captain? He delivers in clutch moments and has good playoff stats from last year. Because the team is struggling right now? Than I guess Koivu was a bad captain for the 2009 collapse… You know I’m a big Saku fan but he’s slowing down these days and he’s not who he was IMO. He grinds himself out for his points but as he ages, that’s wearing a 5’10” player with bad knees down rather quickly. Loyalist has too often personalized the depature of Koivu against some of the new guys.

          TBL fell ass-backwards into Steve Stamkos and Victor Hedman as well after dumping their loser coachs. That’s like calling a guy who won the lottery a financial genius. Their offensive talent can carry them in regular season but high-offence squads with no D blow it in the playoffs with regularity.

          Cammalleri scored more playoff goals than any MTL forward has since the 1970s, that’s not worth something? The Habs need more size, but Gionta and Cammy more than proved their worth last year, I’m tired of this backstabbing fan atmosphere where everything good is completely undone and you’re a worthless punk a year later.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            As for Koivu, you’re right. I have issues, I’m a loyal person. And of course he’s not what he was. But also he doesn’t have to carry the team on his back out here either and has a lot more support. He and Selanne and really slick together and fun to watch. And having Perry, Getzlaf and Ryan to worry about creates opportunities for the 2nd line.

            Sorry to be emotional, but I can’t remember being so discouraged about our team since the Roy disaster. As for Gio, he’s ok, I had no problem with him being Captain, but I think a massive message needs to be sent and a statement made about how things are going to be in Montreal.

            Are we going to get it? I don’t know. I really, really don’t. Probably more incremental flubbery. If Markov and Gorges are healthy and signed and some of your kids come up (sounds like 1 to 2 years)… we have that to cling to…

      • LA Loyalist says:

        3 games without one goal. I don’t know what to say. Of course you need defense, but I’m making a point. I of course don’t mean only Canadian nationality, I mean Canadian style, what used to be defined by The Montreal Canadiens.

        Of course we need a two way system. Our problem is we have a one way defensive system which is so good we lost a 4 point game to Boston by 7 goals.

        5 thumbs down already :) If guys are fine with the way things are, if they can sleep at night, if crawling into the playoffs on our knees is acceptable for The Montreal Canadiens then I don’t know what to tell you except thankfully Maurice Richard is dead because if he weren’t he’d have a stroke.

        I wish Beliveau weren’t quite the gentleman that he is and would say something.

        Robert you keep up your good work, which I admire greatly. As for me I cannot sit quietly and watch this debacle.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          You think I’m plesaed with what’s going on? Hardly. I’m a futurist and I can’t honestly project the Habs in any kind of likely Cup Window before 2014.

          Habs lack scoring talent so when our PF is out, Pleks can score 20+ a season but he’s not a ‘natural’ and he’s not over his groin injury, Gionta is stuck with black-hole Gomez and Cammy has an off-year, we’re pretty much screwed for offence. That can’t be readily fixed by screaming “attack”.

          Issue is the Habs haven’t sucked badly enough to get in on the Rewards for Pathetic or Intentional Failure system in the NHL draft to really suck up top picks and their farm has already been tapped for it’s NHL-ready stock and some of that stock can’t stick around because DD is a symptom of the Habs current problem.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            I like DD a lot, by the way, he has hands and courage. I remember you talking about him.

            And the twists of fate have not been good to us and neither can we control them. Kopitar is done, broken ankle and that will pretty much kill Kings, it is so tight in the west right now.

      • The Cat says:

        To say JM NEVER had goaltending is wrong., its pretty hard to criticize a 1.39 and 1.82 gaa and no its not like every other tender was doing better. I watched it, trust me the sens couldnt buy a goal.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          The other tenders came up with big stops when it mattered.

          In the Trap Era, the Stanley Cups were collected by a group of goaltenders who are all likely HOFers save Khabibulin. These were men who could make that big save and keep a team in a game.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • doogie says:

      If only it were that easy!

    • _Habsoloutly_ says:

      You want to get rid of Gionta??? Really? Gionta is part of the solution not the problem, give him some decent linemates and he shines. Molson needs to get rid of the dead weight on the team like Pouliot, Gomez, and make sure the coach plays the players in roles they can succeed at, E.g. not playing Moen on the top two lines, and sticking him on the 3rd were he belongs.

  34. HardHabits says:

    Over under on how many goals the Habs score next game?

    I gave them the benefit of the doubt last game saying they’d score at least one. I think we’re due for another goose egg and I don’t mean in Price’s favour. I wouldn’t even play Price next game. Make those turtles really squirm and soil their pants. Sit PK too since he isn’t allowed to bring his game to the table. Don’t forget to play Gomez 20+ minutes.

    When was the last time the Habs got shut out 4 times in a row?

    History will be made.

    • The Cat says:

      Im going with a 4-1 win in Atlanta.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • larisalapointe says:

      HH, your questions seem more like statements than questions. ;

      I believe the Habs will score as many goals necessary to win the next game.

      And I believe the last time they were shutout 4 in a row was 1928, and that record will stand.

  35. larisalapointe says:

    Go Philly Go. I would like it if Boston lost most of their remaining games, or maybe all of them. ; )

  36. Favorite Son says:

    They just have to win battles yunno? Finish their checks, get the puck in deep, get pucks to the net…keep skatin’ yunno? Just do the little things. Forecheck, backcheck, hip check, poke check, cross check, just check-a-check-check.

  37. observer says:

    McGill in college hockey championship game tonight at 8pm streamed on web.

    http://english.cis-sic.ca/championships/mice/index

  38. Timo says:

    Boy, I love listening and reading quotes from Cammilleri and Gomez. They say so many great things. Right things. We are so lucky to have them.

    • Steven says:

      Now, if only their skill to say the right things was the same as their production on the ice. We’d be Cup champs 5 years in a row.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I think some missed your sarcasm Timo. Oh Wait.. pardon me … maybe it’s me who’s just a cynical SOB.. and you REALLY REALLY REALLY spoke from a passionate heart filled wih ‘love’ for numbers 13/11.

      Hey first time I have typed Cammy’s number.. maybe he should change his number, get repaired with Gomez and the curse will be gone.

  39. Spartan117 says:

    64 minutes too short in my opinion. Bag em till they puke I say!

  40. adamkennelly says:

    Habs zero response to Chara is a factor here folks. I don’t care what you think about toughness and scrapping…when someone does that to one of your players you must respond…Team is now collectively a bunch of whiny pussies in a man’s game..doesn’t make for team confidence or chemistry….until management respects their players enough to add some muscle to this line up how can we expect our opponents to…

  41. FastCentennial says:

    Here is the line-up Jacques should use:
    1st: Darche – Plekanec – Cammalleri
    2nd: Gionta – Eller – Kostitsyn
    3rd: White – Desharnais – Pouliot
    4th: Pyatt – Halpern – Moen
    d-pairings:
    Gill – Subban
    Wiz – Hamrlik/Sopel
    Weber/Picard – Mara
    Scratches: Gomez

    I know Gomez would proably not get scratched but if he does i think it would send a good message to him cuz he is getting paid 7.5m a yr and has only 7 goals…this is outrageous! If Gomez does play either plays 4th line minutes so like 10min or he plays with a star line of Kostitsyn – Gomez – Cammalleri, then have Gionta with Plekanec and Pouliot. Then juggle the rest around.

    Habsnation is still standing.

  42. The last three games have been painful to watch but I don’t think a 64 minute skate is the answer. The problem seems to be that the other teams have figured out how we attack and how we defend and don’t allow us to do either effectively

    When we dump the puck into their end, their defence do a better job of getting to the puck and gaining possession and don’t seem to have that hard a time finding someone to move it to in order to clear the zone.

    When they dump the puck into our zone they either beat our D to the puck (PK is looking really gun-shy these days) or they block off all passing lanes and keep us hemmed in. When we finally get possession everyone is standing still and we don’t leave the zone with any speed. Or we try the long cross ice pass that gets picked off and the puck ends up back in the corner.

    Finally Price freezes the puck and we lose another face-off. By the way, I don’t understand why our best face-off guy (Halpern) is playing wing. I never understood why AK 46 was taken off the most productive line we had in years (with Pleks and Cammi) and put on with Gionta and Gomez. And I can’t understand why every time we get a line that starts to be productive (eg.Eller-AK46-Moen) JM breaks it up. Eventually he has got to realize that no matter who he sticks with Gomez, Gomez is not going to produce!! JM is screwing the whole team around because he can’t figure out what to do with Gomez. Easy- put him on the 4th line and let him out on the PK an PP.

    Ch EJ

    • CHsam says:

      I agree. Looks to me like teams have figured out how to play our system… I noticed the last few games how much trouble we have gaining the zone when the opposition clogs the neutral zone and has guys all up in our forwards faces…. the result is JM throws Gomez out there to wheel in the puck..which of course we know he loses along the sideboards. Anyways, that’s my perception….

      • HardHabits says:

        It’s not your impression it’s an astute perception. Since the game against Washington where Backstromm was out teams are doing exactly what you say. The Habs dodged a bullet when LeC got tossed and Minny are pathetic. The Bruins just out-classed and steam rolled the Habs in every department. The Habs played that game like a bunch of little girls with their tails between there legs. This is all on Gainey for bringing in Gomez, Cammalleri and Gionta and paying them 1/3 of the Habs cap hit.

        Hopefully the Molson’s will make major changes in the philosophy of how the Habs are run. Many things look good at the developmental level but they need better, more and higher draft picks to succeed in this league.

        Eller, Subban, Pacioretty and Price are all that is good on this team as it stands. Losing or trading any of the rest of them would not bother me one bit.

        If you ask me that is where the Habs should be rebuilding around. The so called veterans are too small and over payed. Nice job Gainey turning the once great Habs into the laughing stock wimps of the NHL.

  43. gK_HabsFan says:

    Ok so both Pacioretty and Desharnais are restricted free agents this offseason.
    So far this season:

    – Pacioretty has: played 37 games, 14 goals, 10 assists for a total of 24 points.

    – Desharnais has: played 37 games, 8 goals, 14 assists for a total of 22 points.

    The question is how much money do you offer these two guys and for how many years? These guys can potentially be impact players for us in the future…
    Whats your take?

    -GK-

  44. habsfan_61 says:

    1) darche to break the goose egg midway through the 1st vs atl.

    2)is jm the right coach for this team? we dont have the players to fit his system. you have to get guys who fit into the coach’s way and who’s job is that? goatman. our strengths are speed, transition and skill. jm’s system does not take advantage of this. to fit into his system the forwards have to be 2 way guys who stress d first and offence second. so either pg gets players who fit into this system or get rid of jm and hire a coach who meshes with the skill/strenghts of our players.

    still, the team has done ok despite injuries to key players notwithstanding the last 3 outings which were an abysmal embarassement.i hope this gets corrected fast before the playoffs

  45. matrags says:

    Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Rationalize until your blue in the face no goals in three games , Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…….No guts no glory ….Boooooooooooooooooooo

  46. derfab says:

    new format sucks. AK 46 does better with Moen because most of the other habs don’t have the size or the balls to fend off the guys taking runs at him. Eller will be our top center soon. Gomez should play with Pouliot and White. Gionta with Desharnais and….the season ended with the pacs injury. We don’t have enough nhl forwards.

  47. NoTinFoilCups says:

    So what’s the word on Pacioretty? It was supposed to be complete rest until the 26th. I’m assuming it’s some time in the gym to get his legs and lungs back. But he hasn’t been off that long to fall completely out of shape like what has happened with Crosby. If he has no concussion symptoms then hopefully he can go full bore with the conditioning, then practise with no contact.

    We desparately need him back in the lineup if it is possible.

    • breton 123 says:

      I wouldnt bring him back this year next year ,make sure he is fully recover.

    • derfab says:

      Better chance of seeing markov. Who would insure a guy rushing back with a broken neck? He needs another month of r and r just to get rid of the stiffness.

      • Exit716 says:

        He’s fine. Didn’t you hear Dr. Recchi’s diagnosis earlier this week?
        I can’t believe that loser got off scot free for his ignorant comments. Screw you Recchi. I’m embarrassed that you ever wore the Habs jersey. Loser.

        • observer says:

          all he said was habs – nudge nudge – wink- wink – gauthier TRIIED TO GET CHARA SUSPENDED BY PUBLICLY RELEASING ALL THE DETAILS OF THE INJURY – WHEN THEY NEVER THEY NEVER THEY NEVER DO! except say it is a upper body injury or lower body injury which describes nothing every single injury. that is ALL recchi said. he did not knock maxpac/the doctors – he TOLD THE TRUTH. and it backfired on the old loser gauthier because campbell also thought he was trying to pull this garbage. if gauthier had not released the exact details AND CHARA WOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED. the old fool is a terrible GM so what else do you expect.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      He needs to take as long as he needs for recovery, with a severe concussion it’s best for him to sit the rest of this season out.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  48. DLS HAB says:

    Back to basics starting with a bag skate! The first step in turning this mini-slump around. The boys will get it going, they are a better team than they have shown in the last 3 games. MMW.

  49. christophor says:

    1st PP unit:
    AK – Plek – Cammi
    Subban – Wiz

    2nd PP unit:
    Gio – DD – Gomer
    Weber – Spacek (Hammer until Spacek returns)

    • smiler2729 says:

      Are you Jacques Martin?

      *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

      • christophor says:

        Yes, and I spend my time here putting up with you.

        • smiler2729 says:

          Chill out, Jacques, christophor is a misleading handle.

          Hey, I like the job you’re doing with the cast you have. What do you think of Kirk Muller’s chances as a head coach in this league?

          And wouldn’t Matt Darche be better on the PP than AK46? Darche, at least, goes to the dirty places.

          *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

          • christophor says:

            If I’m Jacques, I TELL Andrei, “stand in from of the net”, and voila, I have someone who’s stronger than Darche, who can actually put the puck in the net, and who has a wicked tip.
            “He wont do it” you say? Well it’s the coach’s job to get him to do it.

            I suppose the rest isn’t controversial, besides Weber and Spacek. Both can shoot better than Hammer and Gill, and one is a lefty, one a righty, with Spacek being semi-responsible defensively. Also, the 2nd PP should see minimal ice time.

  50. Timo says:

    What, no day off today? I am shocked.

  51. doogie says:

    Folks! Back from Bermuda! What a place! Looks like the Habs offense was offensive with a peek at the score sheet! Ouch!

    Anyway, while sitting on the pink beaches, sipping on a Corona, one can’t help but contemplate the fate of Les Habitants. Think about how disrupted their efforts have been this year with, once again, all of the bloody injuries. Put “parity” at the top of the equation and it’s not hard to realistically think of this current team as a 10th to 12th place team. Only with guts, pride and good coaching from all the staff have they been able to get into a 92-94 pt season. And with that, a 6th or 7th place position and place in the playoffs! No Markov, Gorges, Spac….and the list goes on.

    Give them kudos for their strong position given the circumstances. I believe! And next year will be a bigger, faster,more skilled team.

    • smiler2729 says:

      Everyone’s always in a good place after sitting on Caribbean beaches, sipping Corona… I like your post but give yourself a couple of days and you’ll be miserable like us.

      *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

      • _Habsoloutly_ says:

        Not true, I live here in the sub-tropics, beautiful weather, beautiful women everywhere, and I’m still pissed the f*ck off about the last three games.

    • breton 123 says:

      GM(Count) Has to go,Cant just stands there with his hands in his pockets with his little book and talking to himself.Plus saying nothing to the Refs no wonder we have the most pen becouse the Count dosnt say anything to the refs..He has to blast them once in a while make them think twice the next call,plus it would get the players going .Spread the smirfs over 3 lines ,so we can have balance.not to light on the top ,make it harder for teams to play .

  52. fofe84 says:

    As fans, hockey is not a necessary part of our life. It is something we choose for entertainment. We don’t fire coaches, we don’t trade players, we don’t set the lines and we don’t dictate playing time. We just watch the games and hope our team does well. The way I see it, there are two ways fans can help their team perform well. One way is to support the team and try to make its members feel welcome in the city and valued as human beings. And if the team’s performance is making you miserable, cut it out of your life. Pretend it doesn’t exist. Stop spending your money on a product that is detrimental to your happiness. If the team makes less money, it WILL change its methods, and that is literally the only way a fan can realize his/her dream of firing a coach or trading an overpaid player or whatnot.

    What you don’t want to do is fork over your hard-earned cash to go to a game and loudly boo the team when they disappoint you. Regardless of how poorly they play, these are people trying to do their jobs and it doesn’t help anyone to make them feel like crap. Nor does it help anyone to troll discussion boards and say things like, “Fire this guy, bench that guy, and you’re stupid if you disagree with me in any way.” And it also does not help anyone when journalists take a three-game slump and write about it like Genghis Khan is approaching the city gates.

    If it doesn’t make you feel happy, it really doesn’t NEED to make you feel anything.

    • Da Hema says:

      I appreciate your boosterism, but do not find your comments compelling. You are essentially saying that fans who wish to openly express their dissatisfaction with the the players’ performances should not attend games. So the logical conclusion is that those who do attend must be supportive of the team no matter what happens on the ice or what kind of effort the players place forth. With all due respect, that is nonsense.

      NHL players today are compensated (and guaranteed such compensation) beyond the wildest dreams of players just 20 years ago. If the players are so sensitive to fan reactions, they are clearly in the wrong business. Those players who “feel like crap” if they are booed after a lackluster effort should go sell shoes or some other avocation that has no work-related stress.

      The fans have every right to express their displeasure. Most hockey fans are perfectly capable of discerning when the players are coasting and when they are not. When they do the former, they deserve the wrath of fans.

      • HabsFanInVictoria says:

        He’s saying, in a polite way, get a life.

      • fofe84 says:

        My comment had more to do with our own happiness and stress levels than anything else. Life is too short to get wound up all the time about stuff that really has nothing to do with us. It’s unhealthy to let a hockey team affect our emotions so negatively.

        And I really don’t see how anyone can justify thousands of people booing someone at their job. It’s cruel. No sum of money can make this feel better. It’s also counterproductive to our interests because it diminishes the confidence of our players.

  53. Jdub1985 says:

    an hour practice? please … had 2 hour plus practices in HS.

    ———
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    • joeybarrie says:

      And then after these 2 hour practices while you were 16-17 did you go out and play an NHL game a day and a half later????
      These guys are elite athletes and I think the coaching staff is probably well versed in how to train them.
      Try to remember that making Hamr practice for 2 hours will not make him a better player nor will it help him play better…

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  54. habs001 says:

    right now there are very few super teams…the habs line up while on an individual basis is weaker than most of the top teams can cause problems for any team….when playing up to their potential and utilizing the martin system we have been able to win close games even when outplayed…if you can get into the third tied or one goal difference anything can happen…if canadas fully loaded line up had to play a B country in hockey team tied with 10 minutes to go ..out of 100 times even they would lose some of those games..

  55. joeybarrie says:

    We are doing better this season than we did last season.
    We have MORE injuries this season than we did last season.
    We ended last season poorly and di phenomenal in the post season.
    We are doing poorly so far to end this season.
    We have had ups, and downs.
    WHY IS EVERYONE SO CRAZY???
    We have a makeshift team. We have too many AHL players for support. Yet people still ask for JM to be fired, and they still expect our top 6 to perform miracles.
    Yes they are low in production, but our team has HOLES. BIG FAT TRUCK SIZED HOLES. And filling them take away from our attack.
    Dont get me wrong, GIO, PLEKS, GOMEZ, CAMMI are ALL sucking it up this season points wise. Mostly because we have to play a style of game that does not create a strong attack.
    That being said, this team is only a few games short of the wins that the big teams in our conference have and we are holding our own.
    Last season, it was Caps are gonna sweep us 4-0… Then it was we got lucky and Crosby is gonna sweep us 4-0…
    The truth is simply this. We are playing poorly right now and it’s mostly cause we have been injury plagued and the season takes its toll. We are looking to the playoffs and making sure we make it there without any more injuries. We are a better team than we have been playing, and I am glad we are getting it out of the way right now instead of Mid April.
    We can beat ANY team in this league, and can get past the first round. But if things keep up like this, we will be golfing early.
    I am looking forward to seeing what this team can do without key players. I am looking forward to seeing our kids play in the playoffs and get excellent experience. Mostly I am looking forward to next season where we are fresh and hopefully healthy to see how our entire team can do. We are a competitor and can absolutely win the Cup. We are one top 6 player short and hopefully will keep most of our more important players for next season.
    So let’s not burn down the barn, cause we are doing pretty good overall… Let’s not kid ourselves cause we can hopefully make the 2nd round and miracle in to the Conf Finals again… But thats as good as it gets.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      Fire JM.

      • joeybarrie says:

        Im sorry, OBVIOUSLY you are correct and those who are currently responsible for the Club are all idiots, with their NHL playing, coaching and managing experience…
        How jaded can you be?

        There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

        • LA Loyalist says:

          What has JM ever won? Did he win in Ottawa with a better team than we have? Um, no. Halak and Cammi and Domenic Moore won our rounds last year, in case you didn’t know. No thanks to JM.

          What has Pierre Gauthier ever won as GM? Yeah he was working for Ducks but no one claims he built their cup team or their current team.

          Yes Bob Gainey has won everything. I was so emotional when Gainey came to Habs as GM, I remember exactly, I was driving on the 401, it was amazing… flash forward and here we are. Bob built the Koivu/Kovalev team. For reasons that we may never know he blew it up and built what we have now, and then stepped aside, realizing he was done. We still love him anyway.

          You make the point that hangs your own argument:

          “Mostly because we have to play a style of game that does not create a strong attack”.

          Whey the F are we playing a style that doesn’t suit the players we have? Who is responsible for the style? The COACH! Our players can’t score because they can’t attack! This isn’t freaking fag soccer with see-through socks! This is Canadian hockey. Attack! Attack! Go to the freaking net. Shake it up!

          Send Martin to coach Toronto FC or whatever they’re called. I posted after the Minnesota 8-1 game that Habs had used up their goal allotment for the month. I didn’t think I was right, I thought I was joking but cr*p I was right.

          If I am Geoff Molson, and unfortunately I’m not, I walk into my office tomorrow morning and do 3 things:

          1. Open a cold one.
          2. Write Scott Gomez and Gio-I’m-Not-a-Captain checks to buy out their contracts. Thanks and good luck.
          3. Fire Jacques/Jack Martin – his severance check depending on allowing us to see what’s in his little black notebook. (buy yogurt, eat more fibre, buy PG some of those organic biscuits he likes)

          4. Promote Kirk Muller to coach and tell him that in Montreal it’s ok to play Montreal style hockey which is ATTACK and go the F* out and do it. Hand him a cold one.

          Call in PG and tell him to spend the summer getting Muller some freaking male Canadian hockey players and we don’t give a cr*p if they don’t even know who our goalie is because they spend all their time in the other teams zone ATTACKING!!!

          Take off the rose colored glasses, put them on the floor and stomp on them! We have some talent. We have the summer to re-tool. We have some great kids in the pipeline. We can do this.

          Go Habs! Nice work Mr. Molson, have another wet one.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Nice post Joey.

      Even this site was looking like a disaster for a few days Joey. But we and they have got most everything oiled now! Just like the club, has to work things out.
      Still a few issues, just like the team.

      • joeybarrie says:

        I suspect IAN that MAYBE this team, and every other, will always have some sort of issues.
        This team has over delivered on EVERY persons expectations so far, why do we keep asking for MORE….

        There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • habs001 says:

      i agree with most of your comments…martin has done well with the team he has…as fans we way over value some of our players…if this roster was called the leafs or bruins the posters would shred the line up with negative comments

    • I feel better now, thanks for the reminder. Good Post.

      Shane Oliver
      http://www.Sholi2000.com
      Brandon, MB,Canada
      R7B 2R7
      hockey@sholi2000.com
      Ph- 204 724 8418

    • HardHabits says:

      I am looking forward to next season too. I am curious to see if the injuries and weak penalties cease also. I am hoping for a team that scores goals rather than only play this boring lifeless defensive system devoid of any creativity.

      If there are no improvements in all these areas and the Habs are still a team teetering with an 8th place entry into the play-offs don’t expect me to be happy.

      What I see is perpetual mediocrity, excuses and a lot of nice apologies about how we are better than we should be.

      So we’re a 10th-12th place team that managed to claw it’s way up to 8th or 9th. Wow. Hasn’t that been the story of this franchise since the Roy trade?

      It’s more of the same old same old. A middling mediocre team with no fire-power that never drafts elite players and protects veterans rather than make bold moves.

      Time will tell. By 2015 we’ll know if this latest experiment worked. If not I hope a few tanking years and a real rebuild will be in order.

    • breton 123 says:

      To SMALL ,top 3 cannot win the puck battles down low…to small..to much money tied up,,,,there are scared of getting injured,and other teams no that…To many small players for one team..and for being top five .

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Enough with the injury excuses… We are in the middle of the pack when it comes to games missed due to injuries. If you haven’t noticed most of our roster is back now, aside from Markov and Gorges (both important) but last time I checked Philly was missing Pronger, they aren’t in any panic though

  56. Ian Cobb says:

    Not much to say, we all have our opinions, but it is the opinion of the team and coaches that is going to figure this problem out.

    You do not get beat 11 goals to 0, in 3 games without knowing there are problems to work out.

    Again this is a team sport and the whole team including coaches and management have to figure their way out.

  57. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Bench Gomes. Fire JM. Muller head coach,
    Problems solved.

    • C_Hand says:

      Ridiculous suggestions. Thank goodness youre not the coach. Acting on emotion is the exact opposite of what you need to do in the NHL. `

      Keep Gomez, just reduce his minutes until he shows effort. He is our best playoff performer. Keep JM as head coach. Without the system he has instilled on this team, we are nowhere. Keep Muller as assistant coach because having him focus on certain areas really helps us more than otherwise.

      `Problems solved

    • joeybarrie says:

      YEAH, lets fire a GREAT coach who has done very well here with this team. Lets promote ANOTHER rookie coach to see what happens.
      Then let’s bench a guy that will ensure Montreal NEVER signs another decent Free Agent again…PURE GENIUS THERE.
      You know, why is it Gomez is terrible but both Cammi and Gionta get a pass despite their crappy points… OH yeah its cause Gomez make 1.3 million more than Cammi… and 2.3 million more than Gio.
      Cause the players are doing so freakin excellent when Gomez is on the bench…….. I mean when it isnt Gomez’ line on they are absolutely KILLING the other team. WAKE UP AND WATCH THE ENTIRE TEAM…

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  58. alestar says:

    Meh…

    XXIV…and counting

  59. These guys have three days to try and figure out how to score. It’s going to be crazy in Montreal if they lose again.

    Shane Oliver
    http://www.Sholi2000.com
    Brandon, MB,Canada
    R7B 2R7
    hockey@sholi2000.com
    Ph- 204 724 8418

  60. C_Hand says:

    People crying for Jacques Martin to get fired seriously don’t know hockey.

  61. observer says:

    Trying to get his multi-millionaires more aroused – priceless!

    Practice

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I&feature=related

  62. ANSPI says:

    PK is a great player! They way he speaks to the media in the midst of tough situations is incredible at his age. He pinpointed exactly what the habs have been missing and that’s winning 1 on 1 battles. I can’t even recall the last time someone won a battle to a rebound.

  63. rocketsglare says:

    I’m surprised that this late into the season that the team is re-
    learning hockey basics. This tells me that the team is in serious
    trouble. It all begins IMO with a lack of focus and desire which
    have been ongoing issues for most of this season. Does not
    bode well for this team’s playoff hopes.

    • observer says:

      Sunday is the day they checkout their bank accounts and investments on their computers. Forcing them to be practicing instead today may anger them enough to arouse them to play a little harder?

    • Honestly getting back to the basics is often the best way to elevate performance and execution. Even players on the world class level need to be reminded every once in a while. Maybe even more so because their athletic ability is off the charts and they can rely on pure athleticism alone to get them through most of the season. A good old basics beat down is just what the doctor ordered.

    • rocketsglare says:

      It says something about this team’s level of play during a playoff
      drive that their is a need to bag skate the team in order to get
      the team to focus and execute. You would think that would be
      automatic given the experience and leadership on this team to
      elevate their game. But, I guess nothing is automatic with this
      club.

  64. volcano62 says:

    Can the fans (you know the ones paying big bucks for tickets) push for Martin’s firing?

    • NightRyder says:

      There’s a part of me that would say Martin is simply making the most out of what he’s got, and our top-six talent is below average.

      But then I see that Bylsma has the Pens contending for first in the Eastern Conference without Crosby and Malkin, and I start to pine for a better coach…

  65. NightRyder says:

    The one thing they can do is skate. How about punishing them by making every single one take 1,500 shots before they leave the practice ice?

    I notice the abysmal shooting percentages of most of our “skill” guys. You check the league’s top players and many (with the exception of Ovechkin and Zetterberg, who both take a million shots) have percentages in the 12-16 or so range.

    Our guys are pretty much 10 or below, with Gomez coming in at a nifty 4.9.

    This indicates to me a few things. Either they don’t have the skill or smarts to get into better shooting areas; they are too small to get to the dirty areas and are forced to take perimeter shots; or they are plain snakebit.

    I think it’s a combination of the three, but I do think the lack of size does hurt when it comes to getting a few more greasy goals.

    I’ve said it more than a few times, as have others here. We are paying elite-level salaries and giving elite-level minutes to non-elite players. There will be periods where that lack of skill is exposed.

    As we did a year ago, we must simply hope for some goaltending magic to advance a round or two. We really don’t have the size, skill or depth for a four-round run.

  66. volcano62 says:

    Ok i’ll say it again, this is what needs to happen:

    Martin fired (as long as he keeps giving Gomez top minutes the team will not respond to him and his system) Devils did it to Julien so it is not unusual to fire the coach before the playoffs.

    Gauthier would be a hero over night by assigning Muller as head coach and Cunnyworth as new assistant. Who cares what language Muller speaks, I don’t want to see him on another team next year.

  67. Rainrocket16 says:

    Hey JM after you skate them some more and more and more…..Try skating them some more!

  68. volcano62 says:

    please delete

  69. Nina76 says:

    WITHOUT PRICE WE WOULD HAVE GONE BEFORE THIS, THANK YOU CAREY!!!!!! NO MATTER WHAT WHAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE DONE YOUR BEST, I FOR ONE AM GLAD WE HAVE YOU. HOPE YOU BECOME A MILLONAIRE TOO.

  70. Favorite Son says:

    When is Jacques Martin going to realize that Plekanec and Wiz on the point during the PP does not work?? Subban and Wiz worked wonders so why mess with that? It’s so frustrating to try and understand the decisions this coach makes sometimes…

  71. Nina76 says:

    they need practice EVERY DAY no time off they do not deserve it if you think that a 1 hr. practice is going to do it you are dreaming .I feel very sorry for Carey he is the only one that is playing also PK ????why the blazes is JM not giving him more ice time????????I could coach better then that. He is one of our best players & need him on the ice not on the bench also White good fighter not afraid of anybody. Sit the millionaires they are the ones that are not producing. Afraid to do this JM???? Tired of the same excuses.

  72. Mike D says:

    Those are lines I can live with, and if I’m not mistaken, those were also the lines we used in Minnesota when we scored 8 goals (although I think Pyatt was in for Darche).

    – Honestly yours

  73. clever.alias says:

    Just need that one goal and these guys will have a huge weight off their shoulders. This is their job, they should be enjoying it, having fun and putting the best show they can possibly give. And we, as fans, have to stick by them. Go Habs Go!

  74. otter649 says:

    HOLDING – 2 minutes Montreal 76………


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