Should young players be seen but not heard?

Does P.K. Subban do too much woofin’ for a rookie?

Fallout from Mike Richards’ criticism

Should a real judge replace Colin Campbell?

• Pierre Durocher on Carey Price

Red Fisher’s rookie initiation

Darryl Sutter trades his son

And Jaro scores on himself

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253 Comments

  1. xyonist says:

    I live in Philly.  I’ll be there…

  2. punkster says:

    Good read on the situation.

  3. Hobie Hansen says:

    Yeah I think they should bring those guys up just incase the score gets out of hand and the rough stuff starts later in the game. We shouldn’t get too distracted with that crap though and continue to do what makes us a good team… 

    I have a feeling Subban and Richards will go at it at center ice at some point, can’t wait!

  4. moser17 says:

    Excellent read. This deserves a bump up in the posts.

  5. Mark C says:

    Yes, but why stop there?  The Habs should sign Ogie Oglethorpe just for Monday’s game: this young man has had a very trying rookie season, what with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country’s refusal to accept him…Well, I guess that’s more than most 21-year-olds can handle.

  6. CanadienBoy says:

    Should Henry or Cornboy be call up or risk injuries to one of ours better players

  7. DearyLeary says:

    /rimshot.

  8. ClaytonM says:

    That’s OK, I just lmao at the top comment from that story you linked.

  9. DearyLeary says:

    So cocky.  Someone ought to straighten him out.

  10. nick says:

    When it comes down to it, PK has not been called out by any Hab player or coach.

    And everyone is getting bent out of shape over what a Flyer player losing 3-0 said to young Hab player… What did folks expect? Richards to tell PK how to get better? Hartnells wifes phone number? How to get under other players skin?

    If it were to distract PK from his game that would be one thing, although thus far it only seems to be affecting other teams and their players, so whats the big deal?

  11. LA Loyalist says:

    Iginla – interesting article on Iggy on TSN – saying that LA Kings were pushing hard. What’s most interesting is that it drew 650+ comments.

    Not that where there’s smoke there is fire, but a rolling storm gathers no mush, and a bird in a ham is worth two steamies and a Molson’s.

    Sirius(tm)ly.

  12. matraque says:

    Halak… Funny! haha

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  13. Matt_in_TO says:

    I think I saw his hand shaking

     

    – In Price We Trust

  14. Julie H says:

    PK is like a younger version of Laps. Let’s hope he can score more goals than Laps and not be in the penalty box as much for running his mouth.

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  15. Mattyleg says:

    Woah, double post.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  16. SUMO says:

    Forget the Calder, PK for PM!! 

  17. LA Loyalist says:

    Great post. If PK were in Toronto it wouldn’t be Phaneuf changing the music in the dressing room. 

     

    “We need white boards – though not the kind you write on with markers.”

  18. Willy the bum says:

    Whatever on the Flyers, they are truly the most disrespectful of the league’s teams.  I mean, I was at the game when I saw Pronger pushed Gionta when both are talking to the refs close to the announcers booth.  Like, literally just all standing there, and Pronger shoved at Gionta?  Should’ve pick someone his own size, Pronger, you huge douchebag.

    And sucks on Richards, this is a rough sport; every player bounds to man up on everything to win.  Crosby smacked his stick behind the nets of Halak during last year’s playoffs, and what, it’s no big deal afterwards.  Richards should’ve wake the heck up, and understand the situation more clearly.

    And on Halak, I’ve seen worse than scoring on his own nets.  Wonder how Komisarek is doing…

  19. Mark Bellison says:

    This is such a non story… The media (TSN, Sportsnet, etc) need “stories” and are milking this one…

    Richards and the Flyers are dirtbags and not a one of them would say no if PK was on their team…

    The sad part is Richards and the media have it partly right in talking about PK… Except they should be talking about how well he is playing for someone so young… And the impact he is having on his team…

    Maybe they should be talking about how PK plays with “proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence” as Brian Burke would have it….

    If PK were playing for the Leaves or the Flyers, this story would be spun very differently… They would be talking about how he was the second coming…

    Seriously, Pierre McGuire actually had a Top 5 Rookie list last week during one of the TSN telecasts and he did not include PK! Seriously… When Phaneouf broke into the league and when he first arrived with the Leaves, McGuire sounded like he was going to have an orgasm whenever he talked about Dion… PK is no way close to the level of “cockyness” and disrespect that Dion brings to the table…

  20. ClaytonM says:

    And you thought Leafs fans were delusional? In Philly, it goes for their journalists too : http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Subban_responds_to_Richards_comments.html

    The writer goes on about Lapierre putting Hartnell in a chokehold under the pile, and Shelley being doused with a beer, but no mention of Powe, too funny.  But my favorite was a PHILLY!!! fan stating Montreal’s fans are hooligans, that’s just hilarious.

    Their fans are really looking forward to Monday’s game too, so be prepared for some fan interaction.

  21. Shiloh says:

    The most important issues with Campbell’s e-mails are being missed by most commentators. He states clearly that he is incensed that penalties were called “with 2 minutes left” or when a team was already down a man. He was angry when somebody was penalized for injuring Savard.

    So – he believes that a goon squad can take liberties when the games is late or when killing a penalty. He believes that players he doesn’t like should be hit with impunity by all manner of fouls. Can any of us doubt after watching for five years that Kovalev was one of those players? I have never seen a guy get chopped as often as him and never receive the protection that the rules of the game dictate. And – if a ref calls the hit, is his job on the line?

    Campbell is willing to excoriate his employees in e-mails to 3rd parties – the kind of childish and ignorant thing no boss should ever do. And he is doing his level best to make sure the game is unfairly called.

    He should be gone – no questions asked.

  22. W35T5ID3 says:

    i feel like chicken 2nite…like chicken 2nite..

  23. CanadienBoy says:

    Good read ,Flyer almost take out two off ours guys with elbow and PK is the bad guy,i hope the teams hit anybody that try to intimated PK wait where is Nilan?,because Schults not ready.

  24. W35T5ID3 says:

    Twas Ha-Lak of  concentration in which Jaro swatted the puck into his own cage.

  25. W35T5ID3 says:

    Yesterday i said that boone is god….however i believe stubbsy is god too…

    …PK subbie  dooby doo is also god….

    Bahh..

    Habs rules.

  26. Dave Stubbs says:

    As I tweet about every second or third game, I still laugh at Subban’s earnest quote when we chatted the first day of rookie camp in September: “I hope to make the team.”

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  27. habinypsi says:

    Hey Boone, I think this represents the feeling in this room.

    http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com/2010/11/boo-hoo-you-big-whining-bully.html

  28. dh says:

    PK stinging Richards with a couple of goals heading toward a second shutout would be a far better way IMO.

  29. Hobie Hansen says:

    Shayne Corson was the best Hab from the past twenty years that had a good mixture of offence and toughness…and sadly the last power-forward type player we’ve had?

  30. HabsFanNorway says:

    Since Laraque is still on our paylist. He should make a 2 minute comeback on monday to teach Richards something about respect!

    Everyone from Sweden, Finland (swedish speaking), Norway, Denmark: Join the Facebook group “Montreal Canadiens Fan Club Scandinavia”!

  31. Hobie Hansen says:

    Correct !

  32. Mattyleg says:

    I love it.

    Chris Neil.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. arcosenate says:

    A nice, clean open ice hip check on Richards by PK is the best answer, just wait for the opportunity.

  34. CERF says:

    Great idea/post!

    Currently i would say Corey Perry has the most PIM(35) to points(22) ratio

    id say Getzlaf also falls into that “power foward” class more then Corey does tho.

  35. Rad says:

    Stupid comments from Richards, who should know better. Personally, I had a lot more respect for Richards himself before his comments, where he showed his own immaturity and sour grapes. Everyone knows that P.K. is a star in the making, and for Richards and the Flyers to try and rough him up, both on the ice and in the press, shows just how charismatic and important a player P.K. has already become, 20 games into his first full season. As Habs fans, we are lucky to finally have a dynamic young player come up through the system. It’s been years since we had a young player like P.K.

    I hope the Montreal brass understand that they need some toughness to complement the skill players on the team. Besides being able to skate like the wind, Subban is built like a mac truck and can take care of himself. Habs brass need to add another physical player, and let P.K. just play his game, instead of protecting his teammates.

  36. Hobie Hansen says:

    LOL I wish I was an agent. I’m a diehard fan who feels we’re a couple solid players away from having the best team around…

  37. TomNickle says:

    Great read Steve, thank you.

    The funniest thing in this entire situation for me is that Subban wanted to fight Richards, which is what veterans want rookies to do if they’ve stepped out of line according to the code.  Richards, for whatever reason(I have a few suspicions) didn’t want to fight Subban.

  38. JohnBellyful says:

    If fighting is such an important part of hockey, why isn’t there an award for outstanding pugilist among the 20 individual awards the NHL hands out each year?

    Think about it, the league recognizes the top scorer and best defenceman, the most outstanding goaltender and defensive forward, and the player who best exemplifies perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey (Bill Masterton). Heck, they even give out yet another award for sportsmanship – combined with gentlemanly conduct.

    But isn’t the flip side of the Lady Byng the player who’s hardnosed, willing to scrap when provoked – and scores goals to boot. There’s been a few players over the years who would fit such a description – the kind most commonly described as power forwards. These guys should have an award as well. They’re every bit as important to a team’s success as a Lady Byng-type player.

    We could call the award the Fergie or Probie, the Neeley or Shanny – guys good with their fists but had soft hands around the net.

    Obviously we’re not talking goons here, the one-dimensional Derek Booregards and the Jody Shelleys, whose sticks bear the label: This Side Up. No, this award would go to the player who exhibits outstanding sportsmanship … to a point … and ungentlemanly conduct when the situation demanded it, but without resort to cheapshots.
    And a high standard of playing ability.

    I can’t think of a candidate for such an award on the Habs right now. Or on the Flyers. But I’m sure there are a few out there in the league. Any favourites?.

  39. Hobie Hansen says:

    Well, I believe there are definite upgrades out there to having Picard on the ice and the main reason Spacek was playing better is because Markov was eating up minutes and Spacek’s time was reduced to better suit his 36-year-old body.

     

    If Montreal could find a guy with size to fill the open spot on the 2nd line or even a guy who could throw’em to play on the third line, there’s Eller, Pyatt and a couple other guys who could sit or be sent down.  

  40. Mattyleg says:

    Exactly. When Laviolette was coaching the Hurricanes, he had a strict no-fighting rule. He would bench or otherwise punish players who got into scraps during the game. He won a Stanley Cup with that system.

    Now the guy who signs his cheques is more interested in seeing his players suspended than winning cups.

    Feel bad for Pete, in a way.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. 24 Cups says:

    Brian Wilde’s take on the Richards-Subban hullabaloo.

  42. TomNickle says:

    So Richards says that if PK continues to be “cocky” that he might do something to him.

    Colin Campbell not only thinks it’s okay to elbow two players in the back of the head a foot from the boards but apparently it’s okay to threaten players throughout the league.  James Wiesnewski can’t make an obscene gesture because kids are watching, Sean Avery can’t say sloppy seconds because children are watching but Mike Richards can threaten the well being of a fellow union member when kids are watching.  Good example to set for children everywhere, if you don’t like someone, hurt them.  And of course, Campbell will do nothing about it.

     

  43. ClaytonM says:

    The Flyers are a watered down version of their 70’s team, sure.  They’ve got more than their share of head cases – Carcillo, Hartnell, Pronger, Powe, Shelley…even Briere (3 game suspension for yet another late game cheapshot).  But that doesn’t stop them from running their mouths at every opportunity.  As far back as I’ve watched hockey, Philly has always had a low class team / organization, and why?

    BOBBY CLARKE.

    When you have someone like that at the reins of your team, what do you expect to see as the net result? Finesse hockey?

    Can’t wait until Monday’s game.

  44. 24 Cups says:

    J.T. doesn’t quite love Mike RIchards the same way she does Pleks.

  45. Mattyleg says:

    18,000 fans total for two arenas? So what? Who cares? It’s the American Market!! It’s amazing!

    Kansas City = 8,000 more fans! Oklahoma City = 8,000 more fans! Do the math: that’s sixteen THOUSAND fans!! That’s more fans than I can fit in my apartment!!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  46. SmartDog says:

    Hobie are you an agent?  Cause this is a theme with you. 🙂

    Though I agree – we need a tough guy on the team.  Or ANOTHER tough guy because we already have a couple of scrappers but we’re at least one sandwhich short of a picnic when it comes to being tough.

     

    ——- Anyone know how to italicize sigs? Used to be able too…

  47. Mattyleg says:

    As much as I’d like to see a worker/fighter on the team, my concern would be who we would cut to make room.

    You talk about a defenseman, but our d-corps is solid. Spatch and Hammer have picked it up, and the others are fine.

    I agree that it’d be nice, but we have so much depth, that we’d be pushing younger players further down the depth chart and risk losing them to sign some grimy veteran for half a year.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  48. 24 Cups says:

    How much will the Habs miss Markov? (THN article)

    BYW, there were only 8000 fand for the game in Uniondale last night as well as 10000 in Atlanta.

  49. habinypsi says:

    Tired of Richards, why hasent anyone brought up the fact that the king of respect runs a team full of head hunters, which includes himself.  Has any one asked David Booth about Richards respect level?  I having respect means that you go around the ice trying to kill people than I am happy PK does not have any respect.

  50. Hobie Hansen says:

    So yesterday was a little bit of an emotional day for Habs fans; a few days removed from losing our best defenseman and having our new best defensemen threatened by the Flyers. I was kind of wrapped up in the entire thing, wishing that Pierre Gauthier would bring up a couple goons from Hamilton and make a trade for some toughness.

     

    However, we’re still a great team if even we’re not going to matchup well against the Flyers or Leafs in a wrestling match. The name of the game is to still score more goals than the other team isn’t it?

     

    With that being said, it’s a necessity to have at least a couple guys who can play the game that aren’t afraid to fight when they have to. Be it a 3rd liner who can kill penalties and drive the other team nuts or a big tough defenseman who isn’t a liability. The Habs have always had a couple of guys who fit that category who at least keep us from being portrayed as a pushover in the toughness department.

     

    There are a quite a few UFA defensemen leading into the trade deadline who are tough and do more than just take a regular shift. There are also some scrappy forwards out there with size and grit who can put the puck in the net.

     

    Be it the Red Wing, Devils or Penguins of the past, they’ve all added role players and grit before the deadline to take the next step.

     

    Hopefully Gauthier is aware of that?

  51. DearyLeary says:

    I just think he’s getting used to holding the reins on his own.  He’ll be fine, but this year will be filled with ups and downs.

  52. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I’m waiting for Subban, Bobby Orr style, to lay a massive beating on someone like Richards. Hey Flyerfool, STFU!   

  53. DearyLeary says:

    Except PK is stronger, a better skater, a better hitter, a better passer, a better shooter, has better vision, better decision making skills…

     

    Need I go on?

  54. 123456 says:

    who is God of Pen? God of Pencil? God of ink? God of the Keyboard?

  55. Mattyleg says:

    I have to agree with that Philly fan. They are truly saints.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—


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