Should young players be seen but not heard?

Does P.K. Subban do too much woofin’ for a rookie?

Fallout from Mike Richards’ criticism

Should a real judge replace Colin Campbell?

• Pierre Durocher on Carey Price

Red Fisher’s rookie initiation

Darryl Sutter trades his son

And Jaro scores on himself



  1. xyonist says:

    I live in Philly.  I’ll be there…

  2. punkster says:

    Good read on the situation.

  3. Hobie Hansen says:

    Yeah I think they should bring those guys up just incase the score gets out of hand and the rough stuff starts later in the game. We shouldn’t get too distracted with that crap though and continue to do what makes us a good team… 

    I have a feeling Subban and Richards will go at it at center ice at some point, can’t wait!

  4. moser17 says:

    Excellent read. This deserves a bump up in the posts.

  5. Mark C says:

    Yes, but why stop there?  The Habs should sign Ogie Oglethorpe just for Monday’s game: this young man has had a very trying rookie season, what with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country’s refusal to accept him…Well, I guess that’s more than most 21-year-olds can handle.

  6. CanadienBoy says:

    Should Henry or Cornboy be call up or risk injuries to one of ours better players

  7. DearyLeary says:


  8. ClaytonM says:

    That’s OK, I just lmao at the top comment from that story you linked.

  9. DearyLeary says:

    So cocky.  Someone ought to straighten him out.

  10. nick says:

    When it comes down to it, PK has not been called out by any Hab player or coach.

    And everyone is getting bent out of shape over what a Flyer player losing 3-0 said to young Hab player… What did folks expect? Richards to tell PK how to get better? Hartnells wifes phone number? How to get under other players skin?

    If it were to distract PK from his game that would be one thing, although thus far it only seems to be affecting other teams and their players, so whats the big deal?

  11. LA Loyalist says:

    Iginla – interesting article on Iggy on TSN – saying that LA Kings were pushing hard. What’s most interesting is that it drew 650+ comments.

    Not that where there’s smoke there is fire, but a rolling storm gathers no mush, and a bird in a ham is worth two steamies and a Molson’s.


  12. matraque says:

    Halak… Funny! haha


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  13. Matt_in_TO says:

    I think I saw his hand shaking


    – In Price We Trust

  14. Julie H says:

    PK is like a younger version of Laps. Let’s hope he can score more goals than Laps and not be in the penalty box as much for running his mouth.

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  15. Mattyleg says:

    Woah, double post.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  16. SUMO says:

    Forget the Calder, PK for PM!! 

  17. LA Loyalist says:

    Great post. If PK were in Toronto it wouldn’t be Phaneuf changing the music in the dressing room. 


    “We need white boards – though not the kind you write on with markers.”

  18. Willy the bum says:

    Whatever on the Flyers, they are truly the most disrespectful of the league’s teams.  I mean, I was at the game when I saw Pronger pushed Gionta when both are talking to the refs close to the announcers booth.  Like, literally just all standing there, and Pronger shoved at Gionta?  Should’ve pick someone his own size, Pronger, you huge douchebag.

    And sucks on Richards, this is a rough sport; every player bounds to man up on everything to win.  Crosby smacked his stick behind the nets of Halak during last year’s playoffs, and what, it’s no big deal afterwards.  Richards should’ve wake the heck up, and understand the situation more clearly.

    And on Halak, I’ve seen worse than scoring on his own nets.  Wonder how Komisarek is doing…

  19. Mark Bellison says:

    This is such a non story… The media (TSN, Sportsnet, etc) need “stories” and are milking this one…

    Richards and the Flyers are dirtbags and not a one of them would say no if PK was on their team…

    The sad part is Richards and the media have it partly right in talking about PK… Except they should be talking about how well he is playing for someone so young… And the impact he is having on his team…

    Maybe they should be talking about how PK plays with “proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence” as Brian Burke would have it….

    If PK were playing for the Leaves or the Flyers, this story would be spun very differently… They would be talking about how he was the second coming…

    Seriously, Pierre McGuire actually had a Top 5 Rookie list last week during one of the TSN telecasts and he did not include PK! Seriously… When Phaneouf broke into the league and when he first arrived with the Leaves, McGuire sounded like he was going to have an orgasm whenever he talked about Dion… PK is no way close to the level of “cockyness” and disrespect that Dion brings to the table…

  20. ClaytonM says:

    And you thought Leafs fans were delusional? In Philly, it goes for their journalists too :

    The writer goes on about Lapierre putting Hartnell in a chokehold under the pile, and Shelley being doused with a beer, but no mention of Powe, too funny.  But my favorite was a PHILLY!!! fan stating Montreal’s fans are hooligans, that’s just hilarious.

    Their fans are really looking forward to Monday’s game too, so be prepared for some fan interaction.

  21. Shiloh says:

    The most important issues with Campbell’s e-mails are being missed by most commentators. He states clearly that he is incensed that penalties were called “with 2 minutes left” or when a team was already down a man. He was angry when somebody was penalized for injuring Savard.

    So – he believes that a goon squad can take liberties when the games is late or when killing a penalty. He believes that players he doesn’t like should be hit with impunity by all manner of fouls. Can any of us doubt after watching for five years that Kovalev was one of those players? I have never seen a guy get chopped as often as him and never receive the protection that the rules of the game dictate. And – if a ref calls the hit, is his job on the line?

    Campbell is willing to excoriate his employees in e-mails to 3rd parties – the kind of childish and ignorant thing no boss should ever do. And he is doing his level best to make sure the game is unfairly called.

    He should be gone – no questions asked.

  22. W35T5ID3 says:

    i feel like chicken 2nite…like chicken 2nite..

  23. CanadienBoy says:

    Good read ,Flyer almost take out two off ours guys with elbow and PK is the bad guy,i hope the teams hit anybody that try to intimated PK wait where is Nilan?,because Schults not ready.

  24. W35T5ID3 says:

    Twas Ha-Lak of  concentration in which Jaro swatted the puck into his own cage.

  25. W35T5ID3 says:

    Yesterday i said that boone is god….however i believe stubbsy is god too…

    …PK subbie  dooby doo is also god….


    Habs rules.

  26. Dave Stubbs says:

    As I tweet about every second or third game, I still laugh at Subban’s earnest quote when we chatted the first day of rookie camp in September: “I hope to make the team.”

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
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  27. habinypsi says:

    Hey Boone, I think this represents the feeling in this room.

  28. dh says:

    PK stinging Richards with a couple of goals heading toward a second shutout would be a far better way IMO.

  29. Hobie Hansen says:

    Shayne Corson was the best Hab from the past twenty years that had a good mixture of offence and toughness…and sadly the last power-forward type player we’ve had?

  30. HabsFanNorway says:

    Since Laraque is still on our paylist. He should make a 2 minute comeback on monday to teach Richards something about respect!

    Everyone from Sweden, Finland (swedish speaking), Norway, Denmark: Join the Facebook group “Montreal Canadiens Fan Club Scandinavia”!

  31. Hobie Hansen says:

    Correct !

  32. Mattyleg says:

    I love it.

    Chris Neil.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. arcosenate says:

    A nice, clean open ice hip check on Richards by PK is the best answer, just wait for the opportunity.

  34. CERF says:

    Great idea/post!

    Currently i would say Corey Perry has the most PIM(35) to points(22) ratio

    id say Getzlaf also falls into that “power foward” class more then Corey does tho.

  35. Rad says:

    Stupid comments from Richards, who should know better. Personally, I had a lot more respect for Richards himself before his comments, where he showed his own immaturity and sour grapes. Everyone knows that P.K. is a star in the making, and for Richards and the Flyers to try and rough him up, both on the ice and in the press, shows just how charismatic and important a player P.K. has already become, 20 games into his first full season. As Habs fans, we are lucky to finally have a dynamic young player come up through the system. It’s been years since we had a young player like P.K.

    I hope the Montreal brass understand that they need some toughness to complement the skill players on the team. Besides being able to skate like the wind, Subban is built like a mac truck and can take care of himself. Habs brass need to add another physical player, and let P.K. just play his game, instead of protecting his teammates.

  36. Hobie Hansen says:

    LOL I wish I was an agent. I’m a diehard fan who feels we’re a couple solid players away from having the best team around…

  37. TomNickle says:

    Great read Steve, thank you.

    The funniest thing in this entire situation for me is that Subban wanted to fight Richards, which is what veterans want rookies to do if they’ve stepped out of line according to the code.  Richards, for whatever reason(I have a few suspicions) didn’t want to fight Subban.

  38. JohnBellyful says:

    If fighting is such an important part of hockey, why isn’t there an award for outstanding pugilist among the 20 individual awards the NHL hands out each year?

    Think about it, the league recognizes the top scorer and best defenceman, the most outstanding goaltender and defensive forward, and the player who best exemplifies perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey (Bill Masterton). Heck, they even give out yet another award for sportsmanship – combined with gentlemanly conduct.

    But isn’t the flip side of the Lady Byng the player who’s hardnosed, willing to scrap when provoked – and scores goals to boot. There’s been a few players over the years who would fit such a description – the kind most commonly described as power forwards. These guys should have an award as well. They’re every bit as important to a team’s success as a Lady Byng-type player.

    We could call the award the Fergie or Probie, the Neeley or Shanny – guys good with their fists but had soft hands around the net.

    Obviously we’re not talking goons here, the one-dimensional Derek Booregards and the Jody Shelleys, whose sticks bear the label: This Side Up. No, this award would go to the player who exhibits outstanding sportsmanship … to a point … and ungentlemanly conduct when the situation demanded it, but without resort to cheapshots.
    And a high standard of playing ability.

    I can’t think of a candidate for such an award on the Habs right now. Or on the Flyers. But I’m sure there are a few out there in the league. Any favourites?.

  39. Hobie Hansen says:

    Well, I believe there are definite upgrades out there to having Picard on the ice and the main reason Spacek was playing better is because Markov was eating up minutes and Spacek’s time was reduced to better suit his 36-year-old body.


    If Montreal could find a guy with size to fill the open spot on the 2nd line or even a guy who could throw’em to play on the third line, there’s Eller, Pyatt and a couple other guys who could sit or be sent down.  

  40. Mattyleg says:

    Exactly. When Laviolette was coaching the Hurricanes, he had a strict no-fighting rule. He would bench or otherwise punish players who got into scraps during the game. He won a Stanley Cup with that system.

    Now the guy who signs his cheques is more interested in seeing his players suspended than winning cups.

    Feel bad for Pete, in a way.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. 24 Cups says:

    Brian Wilde’s take on the Richards-Subban hullabaloo.

  42. TomNickle says:

    So Richards says that if PK continues to be “cocky” that he might do something to him.

    Colin Campbell not only thinks it’s okay to elbow two players in the back of the head a foot from the boards but apparently it’s okay to threaten players throughout the league.  James Wiesnewski can’t make an obscene gesture because kids are watching, Sean Avery can’t say sloppy seconds because children are watching but Mike Richards can threaten the well being of a fellow union member when kids are watching.  Good example to set for children everywhere, if you don’t like someone, hurt them.  And of course, Campbell will do nothing about it.


  43. ClaytonM says:

    The Flyers are a watered down version of their 70’s team, sure.  They’ve got more than their share of head cases – Carcillo, Hartnell, Pronger, Powe, Shelley…even Briere (3 game suspension for yet another late game cheapshot).  But that doesn’t stop them from running their mouths at every opportunity.  As far back as I’ve watched hockey, Philly has always had a low class team / organization, and why?


    When you have someone like that at the reins of your team, what do you expect to see as the net result? Finesse hockey?

    Can’t wait until Monday’s game.

  44. 24 Cups says:

    J.T. doesn’t quite love Mike RIchards the same way she does Pleks.

  45. Mattyleg says:

    18,000 fans total for two arenas? So what? Who cares? It’s the American Market!! It’s amazing!

    Kansas City = 8,000 more fans! Oklahoma City = 8,000 more fans! Do the math: that’s sixteen THOUSAND fans!! That’s more fans than I can fit in my apartment!!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  46. SmartDog says:

    Hobie are you an agent?  Cause this is a theme with you. :)

    Though I agree – we need a tough guy on the team.  Or ANOTHER tough guy because we already have a couple of scrappers but we’re at least one sandwhich short of a picnic when it comes to being tough.


    ——- Anyone know how to italicize sigs? Used to be able too…

  47. Mattyleg says:

    As much as I’d like to see a worker/fighter on the team, my concern would be who we would cut to make room.

    You talk about a defenseman, but our d-corps is solid. Spatch and Hammer have picked it up, and the others are fine.

    I agree that it’d be nice, but we have so much depth, that we’d be pushing younger players further down the depth chart and risk losing them to sign some grimy veteran for half a year.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  48. 24 Cups says:

    How much will the Habs miss Markov? (THN article)

    BYW, there were only 8000 fand for the game in Uniondale last night as well as 10000 in Atlanta.

  49. habinypsi says:

    Tired of Richards, why hasent anyone brought up the fact that the king of respect runs a team full of head hunters, which includes himself.  Has any one asked David Booth about Richards respect level?  I having respect means that you go around the ice trying to kill people than I am happy PK does not have any respect.

  50. Hobie Hansen says:

    So yesterday was a little bit of an emotional day for Habs fans; a few days removed from losing our best defenseman and having our new best defensemen threatened by the Flyers. I was kind of wrapped up in the entire thing, wishing that Pierre Gauthier would bring up a couple goons from Hamilton and make a trade for some toughness.


    However, we’re still a great team if even we’re not going to matchup well against the Flyers or Leafs in a wrestling match. The name of the game is to still score more goals than the other team isn’t it?


    With that being said, it’s a necessity to have at least a couple guys who can play the game that aren’t afraid to fight when they have to. Be it a 3rd liner who can kill penalties and drive the other team nuts or a big tough defenseman who isn’t a liability. The Habs have always had a couple of guys who fit that category who at least keep us from being portrayed as a pushover in the toughness department.


    There are a quite a few UFA defensemen leading into the trade deadline who are tough and do more than just take a regular shift. There are also some scrappy forwards out there with size and grit who can put the puck in the net.


    Be it the Red Wing, Devils or Penguins of the past, they’ve all added role players and grit before the deadline to take the next step.


    Hopefully Gauthier is aware of that?

  51. DearyLeary says:

    I just think he’s getting used to holding the reins on his own.  He’ll be fine, but this year will be filled with ups and downs.

  52. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I’m waiting for Subban, Bobby Orr style, to lay a massive beating on someone like Richards. Hey Flyerfool, STFU!   

  53. DearyLeary says:

    Except PK is stronger, a better skater, a better hitter, a better passer, a better shooter, has better vision, better decision making skills…


    Need I go on?

  54. 123456 says:

    who is God of Pen? God of Pencil? God of ink? God of the Keyboard?

  55. Mattyleg says:

    I have to agree with that Philly fan. They are truly saints.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  56. RetroMikey says:

    Your opinions are based on what you watched on TV.

    There are always 2 sides to this story.

    By the way, Philly will be ready for payback on Monday night against us which could hurt us.

    If only PK would zip it. we would not have this discussion, it’s all about respect.

    Yes, he is on our team and I am sure some of his teammates are keeping quiet about this as well.

    Remember last training camp where his mouth got him into trouble with some of his teammates.

    So having said that, focus on your game PK.


    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  57. secretdragonfly says:

    I believe he’s referring the the memorial service for the daughter of Ottawa’s asst. coach Luke Richardson.

  58. habs-hampton says:

    Yes, that’s correct.

    I imagine Gary and Colin are too busy doing damage control for Colin-Gate.

  59. Mattyleg says:

    Aha. Cheers.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  60. Mattyleg says:

    His talk’s a part of his game.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  61. ClaytonM says:

    I’ll be piling on to this comment, as 99% of the traffic here will disagree with RetroMikey, so don’t take it too personally.

    I’d rather have players on our team who stand up for themselves and their teammates any day over those with no heart.  I’d also like to have the pests on our side, as long as they play clean hockey.  I’ll take PK over a POS like Carcillo, Avery or Tootoo ANY day.

    My question is will there be NHL brass in Philly on Monday for the rematch?  We all know how much the media will hype this game.  The fact that Powe got nothing for 2 cheapshots speaks volumes to how Monday’s game will look.

  62. SeriousFan09 says:

    PK was more than ready to back up what he was saying, but Richards bravely continued his griping when the officials got in the way, than waited to whine to the media about it.

    Anyone wants a piece of him, he’s ready to go. They’re just mad at a rookie who makes them look bad by rushing the puck end-to-end and them not being able to push him off the puck and nailing them with solid open-ice hits.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  63. Ian Cobb says:

    MIKE, you are out to lunch on this comment my friend.

  64. RetroMikey says:

    Does P.K. Subban do too much woofin’ for a rookie?

    Yes, the more woofin’ he does, he will pay for it in the long term.

    So shut your trap PK and focus on your game.


    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  65. Psycho29 says:

    Your favorite player is Max Lapierre and you think PK yaps too much????

  66. punkster says:

    Your track record on predictions over the past 2 seasons leads me to believe that PK is in the right.

  67. ZepFan2 says:

    It’s called, multi-tasking, Mikey. And P.K. is a master at both!



    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    Fair enough, but Boone doesn’t ask local government to subsidize his blog by building him a new office.


  69. SmartDog says:
    Richard is both jealous – and scared.
    “Hopefully, someone on their team addresses it, because, uh, I’m not saying I’m going to do it
    Of course your not going to do it Mike, because you’ll get your clock cleaned. Just because you had a hard time earning respect doesn’t mean Subban has to.  His locker room supports him – sorry you didn’t get the same from yours.

    ——- Anyone know how to italicize sigs? Used to be able too…

  70. Mattyleg says:

    Right on the money, Ian. I got that impression too, with Richards’s comments. The whole ‘you can’t play like that and make us look bad’ thing was pretty sweet.

    I guess MR hadn’t been reading the papers or doing his homework, because when Sid and Ovie did similar things to the Floppers, he didn’t complain because he saw ’em coming. Suck it up Richie!!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  71. Ian Cobb says:

    It is all in good fun, PK and Richards. PK just held onto the puck to long and the Flyers could not catch him to take it away. PK made them look a little foolish playing keep away with the puck in the Flyers zone. Philly has not seen a great stick handling and skating young hockey player before. Their club is made up of GOONS.

    And have not seen a rookie stand up for a team mate who is being challenged by Richards. Looks very good on you PK, you are a natural leader of men. Nobody has to put a C on your sweater to show your peers that you are a rent a cop type leader like Richards.

  72. tigress says:

    Well said; the players chose to support their AC, and his family, as was never in question, but games can be postponed and life in hockey will resume without a hitch. This team needs time to heal and I was rather choked up when I saw the photos of the players heading into the memorial service. The tragedy of this girl’s death and the circumstances surrounding it most definitely transcends hockey.

  73. habs-hampton says:

    Obviously I’m not a Sens fan, but I think the NHL was very disrespectful in not postponing the Sens game in Carolina. There’s lots of time to make it up, and some things are more important than a hockey game.

  74. Mattyleg says:

    What for? I saw something about it on TSN, but I missed the point of it.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  75. Mattyleg says:

    Ha! I love the “Price-Halak” wars. Like it’s something we’ll be telling our grandchildren about.

    “Were you in the Price-Halak Wars, grandpa?”

    “Well, I played my part…”

    “Were those Halakers really as horrible as everyone says, grandpa?”

    “Horrible?? They were worse.”

    “Did they really breathe fire out of their a$$es?”

    “Yes, Susie, yes they did.”

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  76. C3P1 says:

    boone, I had to get up really early to register for classes today, and seeing this video actually just made me laugh out loud.  thanks for making an awful morning seem not so crappy


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  77. ganderhab says:

    Mike Richards has commented to press that he thinks Subban is too cocky and doesn’t show respect. In a related story he added that Evander Kane is getting uppity and Dustin byfuglien needs to be knocked down a peg or two. Bobby Clarke’s only comment on the matter was that in his opinion Pat Burns is getting a little goofy.

  78. larisalapointe says:

    There is a similarity amongst those three players. Is it just a coincidence? Subban, Kane, Byfuglien. Uppity ey?

  79. HabFanSince72 says:

    Colin Campbell makes $1.4M?

    These thugs are really without shame aren’t they?

  80. 24 Cups says:

    Paul – I don’t see what the problem is in terms of his salary.  Mike Boone makes the same amount of coin at the Gazette yet you (and other posters) keep coming back each day:-)

  81. twocents says:

    “Should young players be seen but not heard?”


    “Should a real judge replace Colin Cambell?”


    Preferably one who played hockey, at least at the collegiate level.

  82. JustSomeguy says:

    And if Subban played for the Flyers, Richards would be praising Subban’s on-ice intensity. Just another example of the Flyers stirring the pot.


  83. 24 Cups says:

    Yawn, for sure.  This is worse than the Price-Halak wars.  The real issue facing the Habs is what to do about Markov and his long term status with the club.  That will be the main issue for 2011.

    We’re playing a deflated Nashville team tonight as well as the the hapless laffs.  It’s a prime time to grab four more points in our battle for the divisional lead.  Both these teams have lousy special teams units so that plus the fact they both can’t score goals will be the main focus for our game plans.

  84. jasonericalexander says:

    Although I think it’s good that he is making a stand for himself, he is still a rookie and there are unspoken rules and code amongst NHL players. Still, can’t wait to see what he can do over the course of an entire season.


    Play every game as if it is your last one.

    – Guy Lafleur

  85. boneheadslanger33 says:

    Unspoken rules are ridiculous as is the so-called “code”.  If these guys had any respect for each other unnecessary career-threatening hits would be forbidden under terms of the “code” and unspoken rules would include one that forbids gooning it up in the last minute of an already lost game…

  86. Corio says:

    I really hope PK is unaffected by this BS and just keeps playing the way he has and just watching his back especially when playing the Broadstreet Bastards..

  87. moser17 says:

    JT’s response got some press here earlier, it deserves a bump up top in the posts.


  88. Timo says:

    Now, can THIS be published in The Gazette, instead of some typical “let me choose my words carefully PC BS”?

    And also, was any of the HIO crew present when Richards was speaking those words of respect and wisdom? If they were, why nobody called him on it? Seriously, media is such chicken sh!t when it comes to calling athletes’ BS.

    Way to go JT!!! Great article!

  89. nick says:

    This is a horrible scenario, but if for arguments sake, PK does get hurt by Richards in a cheap move next game…

    Given he voiced his intentions at the end of the last game, that would result in a pretty big suspension I would like to think wouldn’t it? I mean this is hockey, your not out there to intentionally hurt folks.

  90. Malreg says:

    Reminds me of the Bertuzzi and Steve Moore situation.  After the game where Moore laid out Naslund, I believe Bertuzzi or another Canuck made some similar comments about how Moore was going to get what he deserves.

  91. rocketsglare says:

    Richards is simply trying to get P.K. off his game. A sign of respect in my book; and how does P.K. respond-

    by praising Richards. Class all the way by P.K. Why take the bait and make a non-issue into something the

    Flyers can use for Monday’s game to motivate their sorry asses. P.K. is trully wise beyond his years!


    Go Habs Go!


  92. madcap_habsfan says:

    The Flyers are sore effing losers, we beat them and they didn’t like it hence Richards and Hartnell yapping and Halak is having a bit of  a rough patch , that’s fine it happens and he’s in st. louis so really it’s not something we should worry about




    -“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” Chuck Palahniuk

  93. TommyB says:

    Agree with pretty much everyone else on this thread, but you in particular are absolutely correct.  I think there was a code years ago, but not so much anymore.  The code nowadays is mostly something an embarrassed player will pull out (Richards), or a player who fails to do his job night in and night out (Laraque).  Your take on this code really nails the point.  Code, my @$$.

  94. Corio says:

    Wow why is Halak melting down all of a sudden, hope he gets through it..

  95. Don Carnage says:

    Poor Jaro When people attack Carey using Jaro as the weapon this creates bad karma now that bad karma has found Jaro. Jaro will be ok now that Carey has taken himself out of the picture by playing so well. Jaro needs good Karma from his fans and he will get it.

  96. WAR72 says:

    why would you hope he gets throught it?

    are you a blues fan?

    whats with all these posters being all halak sympathetic 20 games into the season.

    get over that loser, hes a blue.

    we are habs here!

    i hope halak loses every game from now to armaggedon.

    is that bad? cuz i wish it for all teams and goalies save the habs.

  97. Timo says:

    Why is this puke Richards gets so much attention. Really, who gives a flying f#$& what he has to say?

  98. TommyB says:

    On the topic of “codes”….is there not a code against running a goaltender?  I always thought there was.  How many times have the Flyers been guilty of going against that code?  Remember last year’s playoff with Halak?  Remember countless times before that?  And no doubt we will see it again, probably as soon as this coming Monday.  PK’s “abuse” of the code, was not the reason the Flyers lost, but the Habs goaltender did play a major role in that defeat.  Keep your head up Monday, Carey.

  99. CanadienBoy says:

    I hope you guys realized if PK get hurt we screw,i know the kid got no fears but those Flyers are dirty and Markov is out

  100. Timo says:

    What time is the game on tonight peoplz? Wife and kid off to Ottawa, beer’s purchased, pizza and wings on speed dial… just need game time so that I can wake up from my nap. Aaaah, bachelor life rocks.

  101. WAR72 says:

    just a thought..

    does a season ticket holder, who pays good money to see the habs and specific players such as PK or Cammy or whomever he/she loves to watch, have the right to sue an nhl player who hurts one of their stars on purpose.

    if i loved to watch PK, and went to games specifically to watch him, and richards or some other idiot purposely hurts him, i would take richards to court. he should pay my tickets. he should pay the habs. he should sit out for as long as the injured player is out.

    if i told a co worker that he had better get his act together or ‘something’ might happen to him…i would probably lose my job and get arrested.

    if i was a ninja, i would hunt down richards and take his ass out.

  102. Mark Bellison says:

    The Title says

    Should young players be seen but not heard?

    Well, given that one of the byproducts of the Salary Cap era is that the NHL is now a young man’s game, perhaps this is the new norm…

    Prior to the Cap, players became “tenured” so to speak when the turned 30 yrs old. They were typcally rewarded for past peformance and were given financial security to see them through to their mid to late thirties, then they retire…

    Players are Unrestricted at 26 yrs old now… Teams have no choice but to bring up their drafted players at a young age because they don’t have them as long… In today’s NHL, if a player isn’t panning out by 23 yrs old, he has to go… The average retirement age is trending down… Take a look at players in their mid 30’s now and see what is happening to their pay and whether they are playing in the NHL… Prior to the cap, many of the available players still out there would be playing in the NHL instead of the younger, cheaper parts…

    It wasn’t that long ago that players(except the exceptional talents) didn’t start coming into the league until their mid 20s… Veteran’s used to the 30+ years old… Now a veteran is in his mid 20’s… Look at how many teams have captains under 26 yrs of age…

    The “new” NHL is a young man’s game…. get used to it… and get used to the attitude… New “codes” are being written in the NHL, because the young guys don’t have enough of the “old” vets around to teach them otherwise… It is also no coincedence that the trend has been to hire ‘young’ coaches… Maybe they can relate to the kids they are coaching better… Somehow I just can’t imagine Pat Quinn, Lemare, Keenan, or even JM ‘texting’ or ‘tweeting’…. hell half those guys probably don’t know what ’email’ is…

    This was not intended to be a rant…

  103. joeybarrie says:

    7:30pm when i will sit down with my steak and baked potato and glass of red wine to watch the game with my wife and two dogs. When we score the dogs jump around, I did the Cammi fist pump and my wife protects her head from the jumping dogs….

    Married life isn’t so bad, expecially when the game ends around 10pm and I have a long weekend. So no one looking to sleep immediately after…….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  104. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Richard’s comment “something might happen to him”. If this does not warrant a fine/suspension from the league then shame on the nhl. Absolutely ridiculous & irresponsible coming from a captain of another team.

  105. Corio says:

    I couldn’t agree more..

  106. Habsrule1 says:

    Suing people for whatever bugs you is done in the US…not in Canada. Call an American lawyer. I’m sure he or she would take the case.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  107. matraque says:

    More like… Hey, look who’s a Bieber fan!

    Hartnell and Timonen?  LOLZ


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  108. habitual says:

    So, Richards doesn’t like PK.

    Q:  Is there a cheaper, dirtier team in the NHL than the Flyers?

    Q:  Was Richards showing David Booth respect when he knocked him unconscious with a headshot?

    Q:  Has Pronger showed opposition respect in his career with his record of suspensions (suspensions which were artificially light because he is, or was, a star)?

    Q:  Is putting out the 4th line of knuckledraggers and troglodites against the Habs in the dying minutes of a loss respect?

    Just asking.  Mike Richards, can you help out with some answers?



  109. careyprice says:

    If anyone needs a talk from their teammates it would be Darroll Powe. If Richards is going to call out PK for being cocky he certainly should sit down with Powe as the Captain and let him know what he did to Halper was dirty.

    Lets not even bring up the fact that Richards is a dirty player himself…Remember what Richards did to Booth,


    PK may be cocky, but words are not going to harm anyone. 

    If something happens to PK on Monday the NHL is going to look bad.

    Richards broke the code, you have to keep this stuff on the ice. Don’t run to the media, be and man and settle it on the ice.

  110. HabFanSince72 says:


    But what do you expect from a league whose disciplinary chief is Colin Campbell?


  111. careyprice says:

    If something was “to happen” to PK on Monday the league is going to be held responsible for not doing anything with this situation.

    There is no way Richards should be able to make a comment like that and not face any sort of discipline. Not asking for a suspension, but at least a fine.

  112. badbalance says:

    I love it. We finally have a player on our team that everyone hates, even every other non-Habs  fans hate PK to death. But on the down-low, every team wants PK on their team…

  113. CanadienBoy says:

    Bulldog leaders in PIM Henry 36 ,Cornboy25 and White 24 ,the last seem to be the better call up and had a great camp.

  114. karlito says:

    i think its more like…hey, look who’s a Bieber fan. LMAO

  115. Captain aHab says:

    No kidding…dear lord, Richards, AKA Headhunter, giving lessons about respect. lol….

  116. red eye says:

    I don’t  agree with Richards, but do think PJ should tone it down, do his talking on the ice, not between whistles.

    and he had no business getting involved in that fight. AK can take care of himself. When I saw it go down, I thought why  is he poking his nose where it doesn’t belong?

    PJ needs to shut his mouth. he is too cocky.  to be confident is fine, but too mouthy isn’t good.

  117. says:

    The Flyers and their little band of bench warmers can kiss my Canadiens Ass.  I say go into there Monday night, don’t take one retaliation penalty’s and beat them into the ground on the scoreboard.

    And for anyone going to the game, do not park near the arena or wear your colors.  It’s a death trap being created right now and I would hate to see some one get hurt over what the NHL’s New Biggest Whiner has to say.


    They Call Me Shane

  118. careyprice says:

    “What am I supposed to do? Just go out there and not say anything? Not hit anybody, and just kind of stand there and let them skate around me like I am not even there? Just because you know I am a rookie?…IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.”


  119. avatar_58 says:

    BLAH….All this Subban hype caused me to order his jersey. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN

  120. avatar_58 says:

    Maybe “something” will happen to Richards Monday.

  121. Malreg says:

    I agree, PJ Stock does have a big mouth.

  122. careyprice says:

    HAHA amazing comment.

  123. badbalance says:

    I already have a few jerseys, do you know a good spot where i can stitch names on them? 

  124. lenny says:

    PK has done nothing wrong. He’s fun and exciting to watch. PK should show Richards as much respect as Richards showed Cooke.

  125. punkster says:

    Spent time reading the articles and comments here and elsewhere on he Richards comments. Bottom line is it’s all a ho-hum, tempest in a teapot attempt to upset the Habs before Monday. We have bigger things to worry about than this.

    Let’s not forget the following:

    • Our number one D is out indefinitely. There’s a big hole to be filled and we’ll need to find at the minimum a number 6 or 7 Dman if one of our regulars can actually step up and truly take over Markov’s spot. I’m hoping one of our regulars can fill the role now so we can promote from within to fill the 6 or 7.
    • We are still lacking a scoring forward. Either Pouliot or Eller has to suddenly blossom into a permanent top 6 or we’ll have to go shopping in the coming months.
    • Our PP, while showing signs of life, has to show consistency now and do so without its general (Markov).

    There are other issues I’m sure but these 3 are tops in my view.

    (Oh, and don’t forget that TSN is braodcasting the Philly game Monday so they’re doing their best to keep the Richards story alive even when, IMO, there’s no story)


  126. avatar_58 says:

    Not especially, I’d like to get my old heatpressed one fixed up personally. I just ordered from RiverCitySports for this one, stitched

  127. JF says:

    According to RDS, Pouliot replaced Lapierre on the Gomez-Kostitsyn line at practice.

  128. gauver says:

    I am with you.  Richards lecturing anyone regarding respect for an opponent is ridiculous.  I would like to hear David Booth’s reaction to Richards’ comments.

  129. ed lopaz says:

    as someone who has been following PK for quite some time I will tell you this:

    PK is ready to fight – any time – as long as the timing does NOT hurt the team

    He is very strong, and a very capable fighter.

    In the right circumstance, he WILL FIGHT RICHARDS ON MONDAY – and Richards will learn very quickly that PK can throw them with both hands.

    PK is NOT the “soft” type – he plays hard nosed and he backs it up.

    He has been my favorite player for several years, and he combines EXCEPTIONAL skill with the grit and sand paper that the Habs have been looking for.

    I wrote several posts last year about PK, and I stand by everyone of them.

    PK will eventually surpass Markov in every way, offensively, defensively, and physical play – and Markov is a World Class player in his own right.



    I love my country, that does not mean I support the present government. I love the Habs, that does not mean I support the present Habs management.

  130. NightRyder says:

    O’Byrne led the ‘Lanche in ice time last night,
    22:30 (including 46 big seconds of pp time!); plus-1, two hits, two
    blocked shots, two takeaways, no giveaways in a solid win over San Jose.

    Nice to see him making the most of his opportunity.

    On another note, I would very much like Steve Penney, er, Jaro Halak, to pull it together for hockey pool purposes.

  131. NightRyder says:

    Saku Koivu, Kyle Chipchura, Paul Mara, Ron Hainsey, Michael Ryder, Mark Recchi, Craig Rivet, Alex Tanguay, Tom Kostopoulos, Raitis Ivanans, Craig Conroy, Sergei Samsonov, Jassen Cullimore, Cristobal Huet, Ryan O’Byrne, Mathieu Garon, Mike Ribeiro, Stephane Robidas, Doug Janik, Shawn Belle, Sheldon Souray, Chris Higgins, Tomas Vokoun, Guillaume Latendresse, Jose Theodore, Sergei Kostitsyn, Francis Bouillon, Steve Begin, Dainius Zubrus, Mark Streit, Alexei Kovalev,  Arron Asham, Matt D’Agostini, Jaroslav Halak, Dominic Moore, Brett Clark, Mikhail Grabovsky, Mike Komisarek, Francois Beauchemin.

    Who do we miss? Who do we want back? Do we care about any of them?

  132. JoeC says:


  133. Mats26 says:

    From HF Boards:


    I also read the Chesnokov thing on Puck Daddy Live rumours: Hope springs eterna?


    Latest news re: Markov on Twitter:

    renhockey renaud lavoie:
    Andrei Markov tente d’éviter une opération. Il va rencontrer son médecin à Cleveland à la fin de la semaine.
    TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
    I know everyone assumes the worse for Andrei Markov but he will see Dr Tony Miniaci in Cleveland on Fri. Exact prognosis should come then.
    dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
    Russian National team doctor, who claims to have spoken with Markov, said Andrei will need minimum 5-6 weeks to recover. #habs

    All hope is not yet lost. Dmitry is definately well-connected in Russian circles, but who knows really. Everyone seems to be throwing out numbers. Although, 5-6 weeks seem optimistic- I’ll take it.

  134. matraque says:

    Here is my list:

    -Ron Hainsey
    -Stephane Robidas
    -Tomas Vokoun
    -Francis Bouillon
    -Mark Streit
    -Jaroslav Halak
    -Dominic Moore
    -Francois Beauchemin


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  135. lenny says:

    maybe Moore in the beginning, but Halpern has played very well

  136. matraque says:

    I think Lapierre did well.

    Not sure if Pouliot will be able to take the pressure now…


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  137. habby27 says:

    thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard(comments from Richards)  Did he say that about a yappy Crosby. No! because when guys like that come in to the league, they demand respect and PK is one of those guys.  He obviously doing his job real well. Ya! i hope someone address it in the locker room and I hope they said good job PK. you’re Fu**in unreal so keep it up.

  138. habfan53 says:

    We’ve seen this before big hype before a game a lot of jawing bad blood. Then when the games comes NOTHING and that is what I expect Monday. I expect the refs to get control of the game early. Laviolette is not stupid he knows Montreal’s power play has kicked in after a rough start and he won’t want to give them a goal early.  

  139. habby27 says:

    Obviously Kovy!

  140. mjames says:

    All this talk about Subban. Would he get the same treatment if he was white?  Just asking. It would not surprise me if these “crackers” (ie  Richards, Hartnell and grandpa on coaches corner) are latent bigots. Usually a person making the kind of threat that Richards made would be dealt with by the authorities. If someone said that about Obama he would be in jail now.  I view Richards threat as a serious transgression which should not be ignored.


  141. Ayan_SB says:

    I know Sports Experts can customize a jersey, but I’m not sure if they stitch the names.

  142. habfan53 says:

    I was thinking Robidas also but that is it. Vokoun ? over Price no and to expensive to sit on the bench

    As for the 5 defencemen there is not one that I would take over our current corp . That leaves Halak and Moore again in both cases we are better off

  143. shiram says:

    That make sense, the zebras should be well aware of what went on last time, and they should make to enforce the rules strictly. That being said, the Habs need to be disciplined and not fall in to the Flyer’s game.

    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  144. Malreg says:

    I agree.  Laviolette is a coach who usually doesn’t preach violence, and who won’t let this distraction get in the way of an important game.  Kind of reminds me of our last game against Boston in the 2008-2009 season that was full of garbage and Komisarek getting mugged by Lucic and Thornton.  There was all this hype, then the 1st round of the playoffs started and it was nothing special as far as I recall.

    There may be a few extra hits, but I don’t expect anything Bertuzzi-like to happen.

  145. SLONCOLD says:

    i really hope pk catches richards with his head down:-)

  146. observer says:

    When 3 raving loons on skates looking like a lynch mob skate half way across the rink, one from completely out of the picture who FROM BEHIND AND OUT OF PK’s sight reaches out and grabs Subban’s face until he was chased away by the official (btw what was coming next if that official hadn’t chased Odonnell away?Subban PULLED BACKWARDS TO THE ICE FOR A PUMMELING BY THE OTHER 2?) And Richards preaching morals as he uses code words such as “respect”, “people”, “he thinks he is better than us”! Just which “us” and “us people” does that Don Cherry clone redneck mean?

  147. Mark C says:

    This is very encouraging news. I’m of the belief that JM has taken a long-term approach with Benny this year. JM has placed Benny in situations where expectations have been lowered, and this has allowed Benny to focus on keeping his game simple and effective. Benny is fifth on Montreal in point production per minute, and has been playing solid three zone hockey, all while using his body more and more (third on the team in hits). Benny seems to have found a confident, high level game, and has clearly been the best option on the team to the last member of the top-6, for some time. Maybe I’m giving JM too much credit, but I really believe that JM has been patient with Benny on purpose, hopefully that patience will soon be rewarded.          

  148. SLONCOLD says:

    never a good sign when you have to leave the country to see a specialist…

    the thing is a mri is not need to determine an mcl or acl tear(it however does confirm the diagnosis). fingers crossed but im expecting the worse.

  149. Omit says:

    I sure hope you are joking!

  150. Drive_For_25 says:

    Philly ended the last game with Shelley, Nodel and Powe on the power play.  Laviolette’s as big a douche as they come.

  151. matraque says:

    Well… i was not thinking of replacing anyone… just go through the list and write down who i like/liked


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  152. longtimehabsfan says:

    Koivu and Asham.  Koivu would be a better fit with the current Habs than with the teams he actually played on and Asham because we got a bust in return.

  153. andrewberkshire says:

    I usually think it’s bad to wish something like this on a player, but with Richards I think you’re bang on. He needs to get knocked down a peg.

  154. savethepuck says:

    that way may mean a suspension to PK. I would rather the first time he is on the ice with Richards, drop the gloves and kick the $#it out of him. That would show him his respect.

  155. gauver says:

    I am sure that there are competent specialists in Canada who could manage Markhov’s case.  But if he was seen ahead of anyone on a waiting list, the apologists for the Canadian health care system would scream bloody murder like they did in Calgary last season when the Flames got their shots.  I don’t think that this is the reason he is going to Cleveland for care, but doing so does avoid this political issue.

  156. Mark C says:

    I wouldn’t read much into Markov leaving the country to see a doctor. It is the same doctor who performed his surgery and it would seem only natural for Markov to see him. After all, this doctor knows Markov’s history, condition, and current situation the best.

  157. observer says:

    You are 100% right. Subban is the first potential star and will inspire more of what Multi-cultural Canada now. He is a better athlete than most in the NHL. Richards and other current players all know it and “the good old boys” as Cherry refers to them don’t like it one bit because they see what’s coming down the road. Can you imagine if baseball was a contact sport?” This would have happened to Jackie Robinson on the field. 50 years ago 95% of the running backs, wide receivers and defensive halfbacks in the NFL were of the majority. Then along came Jim Brown and a couple other running backs – look how that sport has changed. And these NHL players know it. The Leafs who never played against Subban were doing the very same in game 1 this season. Absolutely disgusting.

  158. Drive_For_25 says:

    That’s gotta mean somethings up with Halpern then.  How in your right mind could you break that line up unless someone is hurt?

  159. Ian Cobb says:

    PUNKSTER! Maybe a couple of errors in your post my friend.

    Our # 1 D is Josh Georges. And the other 5 are playing great.

    No lack of scoring with the habs, we score more than the other team most nights.

    Our power play is starting to come around some.

    And we are winning about one quarter of the face offs now.


    Just having a little fun with you Dave.


  160. VancouverHab says:

    How is Latendresse now in comparison with Pouliot now?

  161. Jbird says:

    Lats – 3G – 3A – 6 PTS – Benny – 5G – 4A  – 9 PTS. 


  162. SLONCOLD says:

    any orthopedic surgeon / doctor can diagnos an acl tear with a Lachman test

  163. joeybarrie says:

    Problem is Lats missed the last 9 games with a groin injury…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  164. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Well, it’s against US law to threaten the POTUS but not the next Calder winner. Most people just want to see PK and other talented young players succeed. I think you’re fishing in dangerous waters there buster.

  165. alestar says:

    I’m sure David Booth shares your sentiments…

    XXIV…and counting

  166. Mark C says:

    Yes, but these tests are limited in that they only rule out an injury or show that a tear is highly likely. Any person in Markov’s situation would get an MRI and get a complete knee exam. No reason to take any chances with Markov and its prudent to send him to the best doctor for making any diagnosis.  

  167. observer says:

    commissioners usually step in when threats or bountys are mentioned and before monday nights game we’ll here something from bettman/campbell on richards veiled threat, odennels behaviour and the coach himself sending shelly out. this is not going to be allowed to explode on monday.

  168. SLONCOLD says:

    the mri is needed to confirm everything. the tests are not limited at all though especially for a complete tear.a  mri are very useful for helping determin the cartilage damage. i had my acl done and had the mri done as well but they new way before the mri that the acl was done. although in the event of a partial tear  of an auto graph, who knows, that starts to get complicated.



  169. observer says:

    in the us just about all nfl/mlb etc teams send their players to a sports injury specialist in georgia  ———

  170. thorandresson says:

    Sounds about right, we all knew that when we picked up Pouliot he was to be a project.  He excelled early on and gave us a bit of a glimpse of what he could do.  

  171. punkster says:

    I stand corrected.


  172. Mr. Biter says:

    Maybe AT. He might be the only one.

  173. Corio says:

    Dude, Halak is a class act.  With all the crap he went through here fighting for respect he never said a word!  I am not a Blues fan but I respect Halak for who he is and what he has accomplished, I want him to succeed..

  174. Framlingem says:

    Right on. If the Habs can’t make it, I’m cheering for St. Louis this year.

    Edit to add: That’s a BIG “if”. I always love my team, but this year, they’re really loving me back. *grin*

  175. TB says:

    man this is hilarious the “BIG BAD FLYERS” who we are supposed to fear are complaining about trash talk? and a supposed “choking” in a scrum – whereas the soft canadiens get knocked out (halpern) and elbowed to the head but say nothing – just go about their business

    The flyers are a farce – they are not tough they are dirty – and when it doesn’t work out they start to cry (as Richards and Hartnell have shown) no need to call up goons to fight – just keep playing our style and take it to them like we did and all will be well.  As someone on here said yesterday in the third they could of tried to get back in it but instead decided to try and goon it up – the result was lot’s of penalty’s and another goal for the habs

  176. Ian Cobb says:

    PK was the same here in junior, at 16 he
    competed the same way against 20 year olds. He was smart enough to
    stand his ground, but never went out of his way to scrap. But once the
    bigger guy found out that he was a piece of dynamite, they started to
    respect his bite and the ice opened up for him.

    Respect is not given, it is earned. Richards better keep his head up.

    ATTENTION !!  Any small minded person, that even talks about the race card, is a fool and an embarrassment to themselves. Stop It !!

  177. joshua94k says:

    Last week it was Lucic of the Bruins, this week it was Richards of the Flyers, earlier it was Crosby of the Penguins. It seems everyone is intimidated by Subban. Great!

    Like Gill said, he has to keep playing his style of game. He doesn’t play dirty, he is aggressive and tough to play against. He plays with passion and determination. Few could jump in the pressure cooker of the play-offs, especially in Montreal, and play the way he did. Players around the league find it hard to believe he is a rookie because he doesn’t play like one. 

    “You never respect your oponent, you play hard but fair”, Larry Robinson said.

    When you start respecting your oponent, the red light will be on in your net.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  178. RiverviewCanadien says:

    What I want to know is where is Mike G? Mike how do you feel about your favorite player calling out your favorite teams best rookie D-Man while acting like a little whiny bitch?

  179. HardHabits says:

    Mike G is too butt sore to sit at his computer for a while. He’ll be back sometime around Monday, either before or after the game, depending on what soap opera Richards brings to the TV that night.

  180. ZepFan2 says:

    What I don’t understand about this whole Richards interview is, how in the hell did that reporter not burst out laughing when Richards went into his spiel?

    The word respect and Philidelphia Flyers equates to an oxymoron. Imo

    I wouldn’t have been able to control myself.


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  181. kakey says:

    That’s the type of skill a professional reporter has. Had that reporter burst out laughing, that recorded quote would’ve been unusable. (Maybe for the better, but they would have less content to fill the papers the next day)

  182. alestar says:

    Ed Zachary…


    XXIV…and counting

  183. TheDagger says:

    I would say Lapierre is yappier that PK is on the ice. But Richards couldn’t care less about his yapping because he isn’t intimidated by him like he is PK. Atta boy PK, keep playing the game that got you here!

  184. Corio says:

    That’s a really good point..

  185. boneheadslanger33 says:

    CJAD is reporting that Halpern was checked out by doctors and will be a game time decision…

  186. Timo says:

    he shouldn’t play then… no need to rush him in for a game against nashville. I am sure White can fill in his shoes quite well.

  187. OneTimer says:

    Don’t you know, Jaro, only Carey can smack it out of mid-air like that 😉


    Speaking of which…Jaro sucking a little, Habs on a winning streak…ain’t HIO so much better when all the negative trolls have retreated back to their lairs? It’s like breathing a lungful of clean spring air

  188. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I love Jaro.

    I love the Habs more.

    Posts like yours are the fuel that keeps the fire burning…seems to me, you are the one trolling, n’est pas?

  189. matraque says:

    A troll talking about trolling?


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  190. Bob_Sacamano says:

    A player of the Philadelphia Flyers wants to tell anyone how to behave? I can´t decide but that´s something between laughable, ridiculous and embarrassing.

  191. Stuck_in_To. says:

    … and not just any player, Mike Richards. He may not be the dirtiest player in the league but he makes the list of examples I use to illustrate to my sons how not to play hockey. His radio comments are a perfect example of his recklessness.

    And at the end of the day as so many comments have noted, if PK is so under Mike’s skin then PK is doing something right and Mike Richards needs to get his block head on straight.

    These are the things I miss having a Laraque type player for, helping Mike get his head on straight with a couple of jabs and upper cuts.

  192. avatar_58 says:

    No time, will have to be Boyd

  193. DearyLeary says:

    Agreed, don’t play around with head injuries.  \

    There aren’t any players that we have to shake in terror from, aside from the usual francophone threat in JP Dumont.  Let Halpern rest for a game, and evaluate for Saturday.

  194. bwoar says:

    I was impressed by the kid on the sequence in question.  He breaks things up so AK stays out of a fight (where anything can happen and we don’t need him hurt).  Then Richards tells him to get outta there.  PK clearly holds up 3 fingers during the scrum and tells Richards it’s 3-0, there’s not gonna be any fight here.  Why would or should Andrei or anyone else on the Habs engage with that score?

    That’s what PK was telling him.  Something along the lines of, “Go goon it up in your dressing room, buddy, it’s three-zip and you’re going home a loser.”

    So Richards gets bum-sore and cries to the first reporter he sees.  And because Crybaby Croz and Ol Man Jerkwater on CBC have already gone there, someone figures it’s news.

    Meanwhile Bob “Crony” Mac is defending Colin Campbell and Powe’s hits are as white as snow.   The mainstream hockey press has its collective head up its own derriere.  MacKenzie has lost much of my respect in standing up for the old school.  He’s siding with the dinosaurs on this one.  AND saying it can’t be fixed because that’s just the way it is.  No wonder things never change.

    Praise to the staff on HIO, not known for impartiality but callin’ em like they happen regardless.

  195. HardHabits says:

    Good post. I agree 100%.

  196. alestar says:

    excellent post


    XXIV…and counting

  197. SeriousFan09 says:

    Prospect Talk:

    Steven Hindle, in expanding his coverage of the Canadiens at HockeyBuzz, has been sitting down with scouts about Canadiens prospects, here’s one scout’s take on Louis Leblanc.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  198. fuhgawz says:

    reminds him of a Higgy ….. oh boy not good.

  199. SeriousFan09 says:

    Higgins was a 3-time 20 goal scorer and had good enough moves, if Leblanc has a stronger, more accurate shot and can avoid Crescent Street, there’s nothing stopping him from being a solid contributor.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  200. alestar says:

    Mr. “Cheap Shot” Richards talking about PK having to “earn his respect”…what a joke!

    Richards should shut his hypocritical mouth and focus on earning some respect of his own…typical Flyers jack-ass!



    XXIV…and counting

  201. DearyLeary says:

    Also to be noted is that the scout points out he has better hands, and is more aggressive.  The latter being something I always found Higgins lacked.  If he develops into a player who can finish consistently I’ll be happy.  I’m not looking for another superstar, just someone to compliment some of the creative players we’ve already got in the system.

  202. SeriousFan09 says:

    If he’s a solid two-way player who can bag 25+ Goals a season, that’s a good turnaround for an 18th overall pick. Leblanc doesn’t have to be a Lafleur and no one should expect him to be.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  203. Philly-Poo says:

    “It’s just frustrating to see a young guy like
    that come in here and so much as think that he’s better than a lot of
    people. You have to earn respect in this league. It takes a lot. You
    can’t just come in here as a rookie and play like that. It’s not the
    way to get respect from other players around the league.


    someone on their team addresses it, because, uh, I’m not saying I’m
    going to do it, but something might happen to him if he continues to be
    that cocky.”

    An analysis in brief about the Richards’ comment: He lost, and is acting like a sore loser.

    A more in-depth breakdown:

    • “It’s just frustrating to see a young guy like
      that come in here and so much as think that he’s better than a lot of
    • Whereas PK might not be better then everyone, he IS better then most.  Cope with it Richards, he and his team shut you down, (if only he (Richards) would shut up).
    • “You have to earn respect in this league. It takes a lot.”
    • Agreed, people have to earn respect in this league, or any league, and that respect starts with your team, and boy howdy, he is earning that with every shift. 
    • “You
      can’t just come in here as a rookie and play like that.”
    • I suppose Richards felt the same way about Crosby, Ovie, Semin, Meyers, or any other rookie who has had that kind of immediate impact on his team.  If PK was playing any other way, he wouldn’t be as effective as he has been at: Providing a spark, creating excitement, helping his team, and lastly, hindering the other team.
    • “Hopefully,

      someone on their team addresses it, because, uh, I’m not saying I’m
      going to do it, but something might happen to him if he continues to be
      that cocky.”

    • Have we turned to threats?  Because that’s a threat if I’ve EVER read/heard one.  To quote a line from Super Troopers, “desperation is an ugly cologne.”

    I’m a waiting for the Monday game, but, I’m not going to lie, I’m worried too… Hopefully the NHL sends the Flyer’s a warning about ANY kind of retalitory actions… The last thing anyone needs to see is someone getting hurt, on either team.

  204. PrimeTime says:

    Once again much of the Richards v Subban story is hype and nobody is being more sucked in to this more than Hab fans. IMO, the two major reasons this is a story at all is Richards knows PK is that good and will be a star in this league and Richard’s was frustrated with the game. #2, PK is a media magnet…..this is not a story if he didnt speak as well as he does and shyed away from the attention.

    When unique stars emerge and do things better than many others – Orr, Gretzky, Crosby – the opposition wants to take them down because everyone hates being “shown-up”. Over time this passesand in a few years, when PK’s popularity grows to being an NHL cover boy he will take the high road and say Richards and others were right and he was a little too cocky in his his first year or two. That will get everyone off the hook and evreything will be cool.  PK is a prototypical NHL marketing star in the making….he will get a lot of support to reach that status because he can help open up new markets and bring in younger new fans. Richards and others know it. They just don’t it to happen at their expense. PK is good for the NHL…he’s young, smart, talented, a “showman”, and yes he is black.

    So please don’t get sucked in to the media hype against what Richard’s said. If it was any other rookie on almost any other team, it would not be a story. Be proud that PK is a Hab and hope he remains here for years and years. He is and will be a treat to watch!



  205. J_P says:

    Im hoping that Mr. Bettman and Mr. Campbell will be present at Monday’s game to make sure Richards or any other flyer don’t make good on Richard’s threat.  It was definitely a threat, and the NHL should treat it as such. 

    As for Richards? He himself has a thing or two to learn about respect.  I hope he drops em with PK on Monday to settle this like men, and then we see a clean game after that.

    All that being said, good on PK for getting under the skin of the oppositions best player.  That doesn’t make him cocky or arrogant, it makes him effective.  Crosby was the biggest yapper ever, and I dont remember Richard’s going on Pittsburgh radio to make any comments about the league’s poster boy. 

    EDIT: Oh, and once Richard’s is questioning people’s respect, how about questioning Powe for his brutal hit to head of Halpern? Or how about questioning his coach as to why he put Shelley and Powe out on the ice for a late game powerplay? There’s a lot of respect issues to question in his own organization.

  206. punkster says:

    Thanks Robert. Good find.

  207. joeybarrie says:

    Well I have to say I am not disappointed…. So far a very interesting season…

    Halak, top goalie in the league, 3 shut outs…

    Price started pre-season shaky and everyone went crazy to get Halak back.

    Price starts the season pretty good, and gets better. 3 shut outs and hasn’t had any bad games (yet)

    Halak comes crashing down and scores on himself… its just funny. Poor Halak. .906 sv% not doing so great.

    Markov starts injured, but the team wins anyways. People say it’s because the teams they are playing suck.

    Markov comes back and we keep winning, even against top teams. (by the way if we had of lost both games to both the Sens and Sabres, they would both be in the top 5 in the east…)

    Our pickups are doing well, and our aging D are playing strong.

    Markov get injured and might not play again this season.

    Seems to be a trade or pickups on the horizon.

    PK is getting everyone riled up and others are starting to talk crap about him.

    Habs are a top team, and doing it without Markov.

    Still, it’s a long season, but if the rest is as good as it has been so far, I will be very very happy.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  208. J_P says:

    Agree.  I dont know if they actually draft “typical flyers jack-ass'” or if they just become one from playing there. 

    I wonder if Richard’s gives Pronger hell for his childish, post-loss, puck-stealing antics.  You know, seeing as he’s talking about respect and all…

  209. Philly-Poo says:

    I really like what you wrote, I’m not going to disagree with you on anything, but, what about when Richards said, “Hopefully,

    someone on their team addresses it, because, uh, I’m not saying I’m
    going to do it, but something might happen to him if he continues to be
    that cocky.” 
    Threatening people is a cowardly action undertaken most often by bullies, and is grade A horse manure.  I can understand Richards might be trying to fire up his squad, but, there are other, better ways to do so…

  210. TommyB says:

    Actually, he’s trying to get one of his team mates to do the job that he himself isn’t quite so confident in doing.  Watch the Looney Tunes on Monday night.

  211. HardHabits says:

    I serious hope PK cleans Richard’s clock on Monday.

    I know this might sound amateurish or knee-jerk, but I’d like to see the Habs bring up Henry and White for the next Flyers game. OK. Maybe not Henry, if as people say he’s too slow but as insurance against their goons he would be invaluable. Maybe as a 7th defenseman.

    Bringing up White to play instead of Pyatt might be a good idea though.

  212. Natrous says:

    It’s funny that Richards would talk about how little respect he has for PK, meanwhile his actions say the opposite; he may not respect him in the true sense of the word, but the fact that he thinks of PK in general proves that PK in one way or another is getting him off his game, if even by an iota.

    The purpose of an agitator is to get under the opposition’s skin. Typically these players don’t have a talent level of equal magnitude, but in PK’s case he does which makes him a viable threat to all opposing teams. If Richards thinks that talking to the media about this is a way to make it stop, what do you think the message that PK heard sounded like?


  213. PrimeTime says:

    IMO. Richard’s is not threatening him but warning him that a lesser player than himself might be dumb enough to take a run at PK. I’m sure it will inevitably happen some game. Sometimes you have to take a few just to prove you can and PK will emerge better for it. It’s part of the culture. But mark my words. and as others have said, this kid is going be a star brighter than most and we will be very proud that he is a Hab.

  214. says:


    I also hope PK dances around the Flyers like they were PeeWees, and Win by 3!!!!

    They Call Me Shane

  215. shiram says:

    The flyers physical play and their childish antics is about getting under people’s skin, and getting those knee-jerk reaction. I think we should stick to our system and game plan if we wanna come out on top.

    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  216. CBrady12 says:

    Man, this Richards thing has gone so overboard its unbelievable…the media tried to sensationalize everything and you guys fall for it hook, line and sinker

  217. gauver says:

    Richards has already demonstrated that he is not above taking a cheap shot at another player so I disagree with your suggestion that “a lesser player than himself” will do it; he is of a sufficiently low character to do the job.

  218. HardHabits says:

    And who are you? Mr. Holier than thou? Taking the high road would’ve been not making that comment.

  219. PrimeTime says:

    True but I still don’t think it is a “threat”. More of a warning from one respected player to another and I don’t think PK should or will change his game but will heed the comment to a degree which is part of the the learning process for a young player.

  220. HardHabits says:

    PK needs to challenge Richards to drop’em.

    Many of my friends as a youth were people I had a fight with. You learn to respect someone that way. Some stupid unwritten schoolyard code.

    Nevertheless the implications of PK challenging MR would reverberate through-out the hockey world. Especially if PK delivers MR a KO blow.

  221. Mr. Biter says:

    I laughed till I cried reading Red’s initation story. Totally funny. BTW I feel sorry for JH however good it happened to him before CP or the Trolls would have been all over it if it happen to Carey.

  222. Mr. Biter says:

    Bring up White on Monday for a little bit of insurance.

  223. Rainrocket16 says:

    Just finally read Mike Richards lament about P.K., I believe that P.K. is doing exactly what a young player should do. He is tough, confident and wants to be a winner real bad! Mike Richards has gained respect by who? He is the Captain of the dirtiest filthy team that ever played, how can he talk about earning respect in the league, who in the NHL respects any Flyer? Can’t wait to play them again!!

  224. wall2bay says:

    Maybe Subban needs to ask David Booth about how to earn respect in the NHL?


    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  225. PrimeTime says:

    I don’t believe PK would back down from any challenge.

  226. habs365 says:

    Richards….how can a player or team give respect to a bunch of goons….you play with respect and you’ll get respect in return….maybe you should pass this on to your coach….we seen what he did on a power play late in the game….he sent out two goons….how were they going to produce on a power play….they were sent out for a reason and it wasn’t to score….tell your team to quit whining and play like real hockey players with talent….any player can play like a goon….they don’t do much on the scoreboard.

    listen to the Rocket.

  227. Chris79 says:

    The NHL against the Montreal Canadiens…..what’s new.

    Parnell Karl Subban is a mirror to all that dislike him..






  228. JIMVINNY says:

    I’m not sure why a bunch of people seem to think that calling White up for the game on Monday is going to help.  He’s barely 6 feet tall, and I think that’s being generous, and he’s not exactly a big guy.  He doesn’t fight very well, and while he does forecheck hard, he’s not what I’d call tough.  I certainly wouldn’t like his chances against a guy like Powe, not to mention a bunch of the other flyer goons.  He certainly wouldn’t be a deterrant or anything. 

  229. Rainrocket16 says:

    Haha, me too. “you didn’t think that was warm water did you?

  230. Rad says:

    I agree, J.P. That is definitely a threat, and for the captain of the Flyers to make such a threat is pathetic and disgraceful to the game of hockey. The NHL better be talking to the officials for Monday’s game beforehand, and make sure they call it tight. The Flyers have always been goons, think Bobby Clarke, Dave Schultz, Paul Holmgren etc. Some things never change. Richards is a poor loser… class whatsoever.


  231. Rad says:

    Agree about White. He has grit, but he is hardly a fighter. He would get eaten alive by one of the Flyer goons. Habs weren’t built to fight, just to play hard, and the nearest thing they have to a fighter is Travis Moen, who is not a legitimate heavyweight. This is exactly why we got Laraque a couple of years ago, too bad he would never fight anyone. The problem with Laraque is he didn’t have a mean streak, and the problem with the Habs now is they never got a replacement for Laraque. What the Habs need is a player that LIKES to hit and hurt people. I wish we had kept Ryan McDonagh. He’s 221 lbs now, is almost ready for the NHL, and plays with a mean streak.


  232. Ian Cobb says:

    Whats wrong with Cresent St. Robert.

    Keep up the good work!

  233. EricInStL says:

    This game on monday will either make us shut up about needing a tough guy to protect our players or make Gauthier get anyone to protect our guys.

    Martin needs to bring up whoever we have with the Bulldogs, like Bonneau 6-3 232….. BEEFY !!!!!!!

    And don’t talk to me about him not being able to skate, who cares anyone see Boogaard ?


  234. EricInStL says:

    Saw some of Bonneau’s fights…..not so sure….but he’s BEEFY


  235. bwoar says:

    ah crap double post.

  236. bwoar says:

    Actually it’s not trolling.  He’s right, it’s nice to get a break from the Halak / doom-n-gloom / Gainey sux / trade Gomez brigade.  Isn’t it?  If his post elicits comments from that crew, the fault will be theirs – those of us who are Habs fans have a right to enjoy the calm and not have to read 1,000 more of the same idiotic arguments.

    The team has earned the praise, for a little while the negatronic brains among us will just have to stew in their venom a while longer.

  237. OneTimer says:



    Listed buddy, no pic does not = troll. I bleed bleu blanc rouge bro

  238. HardHabits says:

    His post is a rhetorical question to himself. Don’t sweat it.

  239. kakey says:

    But Laraque only engaged with someone in his weight category.

  240. RiverviewCanadien says:


  241. ZepFan2 says:



    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  242. HardHabits says:

    It’s a chinese disease.

    It’s when your head looks Ed Zachary like your ass!!!


  243. ZepFan2 says:

    I see. That so clazy…


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  244. ZepFan2 says:

    I get that.

    I’m just saying, it’s hard to take a member of the Flyers seriously when they mention the words, respect and deserved in the same sentence, when most on that team consider the word respect an insult. Unless it seems, it’s directed (or not) at them.

    The Captain of the goon show wants…nay, demands respect…BAHAHAHAHA.


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  245. Habhopeful says:

    FYI the lucic thing did not happen, was made up, well it was not said to reporters and lucic told Jimmy Murphy and confirmed it to Mitch melnick that it was not said…just sayin

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  246. Bouleau noir says:

    Good point.

  247. RetroMikey says:

    Lapierre’s yapping did not get him into hot water in his rookie year among his peers.

    He’s a veteran now and can trash talk all he wants, it’s his job if he want to stay in the NHL and be a crap disturber.

    PK, on the other hand should stick to playing defense for us and work on his PP and defensive skills.

    If he wishes to trash talk, which he has done, I suggest he change careers to play in the NBA then.

    Other young kids who idol PK will bring this as well when they play hockey or trash talk in school which sends a bad example to todays society.

    Why doesn’t Boone ask some vets on our team like Gionta,Gill, Halpern or Markov what they feel PK should be doing on the ice?

    Stick to playing defense or trash talk on this team?


    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

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