Sergei seems good as gone now

Sergei Kostitsyn did not participate in this morning’s game-day skate at the Bell Centre, the enigmatic forward told by head coach Jacques Martin to simply train in the gym. So it’s another healthy scratch for SK74, who seems less and less likely to ever play another game with the Canadiens.

Veteran Bill Guerin returned to Penguins ice, reported by RDS to be suffering from an elbow infection. Jordan Staal also skated and appears to be headed toward seeing action before this series is done, perhaps as early as tonight. Quite a comeback, considering there were reports five days ago that foot surgery had ended his season.

356 Comments

  1. ManApart says:

    Well, he was around the whole time right? He basically was the guy who communicated with all the players with the two mutes, Gainey and Carbo around. Personally I put most of the blame on Lats himself, for  having a bad attitude and not playing harder to earn his what he thought he deserved.But my point was, if you want to blame coaching, you can’t really blame JM, you would have to blame the other 3 guys.

  2. Jeff says:

    Here’s a good laugh, both sisters will be playing on a line with Grabovski next year, they all speak BelaRussian.

  3. Jeff says:

    Right on Manapart, it’s certainly not JM’s fault for Latendresse.

    or the others before JM’s time, he’s got this team into the 2nd round without much talent, give him a break!

  4. krob1000 says:

    well….he did prefer to be traded then to play with them so I kinda see where they wouldn;t be the friendliest to him…. at the same time I see where Sergei got mistreated from the get go and repeatedly so I see his point.  At this stage all you can do is hope time heals all but it seems that some of the vet players and the coach would prefer for that to not happen.  Sergei is a kid and has obviously received no support here…..guys on his own team are out to get him, he is probably having an awful time getting thorugh every day knowing guys don;t want him around…it hs to suck…and to think it all started because of a stupid media story and for him having the nads to stick up for his bro……then to trya nd play through his injury in training camp ….I side with Sergei on this whole ordeal and do so in large part to the recurring pattern we are seeing with the organization.  Sergei has never been a problem anywhere else…so that he all of the sudden became trouble here seems a little off no?

  5. Storm Man says:

    How could you even think about blaming Muller for anything to do with Lats.

     

  6. HabFab says:

    Hear,Hear!!

    Last game is a perfect example.

  7. Mats Naslund says:

    Yeah, Ovechkin lacks passion? Are you kidding me? How hilarious a generalization to make about Russians when our leader and best player for the past 5 seasons at least is a Russian. Markov has been a warrior for so long and Canadiens fans continue to crap on his ethnicity. Joe Thornton is Canadian. Is he more passionate about the game than Gonchar? Gonchar has as many Cups as Crosby does. Sergei’s problems don’t stem from being Belarussian. They stem from a) a lack of maturity needed to handle the shifting roles associated with being a young NHL player b) a lack of communication skills between himself and management to ensure that situations such as this don’t become problematic.

    Everybody was all in favour of throwing the Kostistyns under the bus a year ago when stories were fabricated about their ties to the mafia. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that people are still hard-wired to think the worst when its a Russian we’re talking about.

  8. Fansincebirth says:

    I was at the ‘Dogs/Baby Sens game in Ottawa and I was impressed with the way SK played and contributed.

    One thing I did notice and it stood out like a sore thumb was that he did not communicate on the ice or on the bench with the other players. Went out, did his thing, wnet back and sat on the bench and waited for his next shift…..strange.

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  9. CERF says:

    so,so true.. this sucks

     

  10. ManApart says:

    JM’s always the scapegoat eh? Latendresse was with JM for half a year. If anything blame Gainey, Carbo, Muller for Lats.

  11. TripleX says:

    A team can gain inspiration and confidence from a hot goalie.  Think some of the desperation and willingness to sacrifice doesn’t come from knowing your goalie will make all the saves?  Having Halak in net the boys KNOW they always have a chance to win and play like it.  Confidence is 90% of sporting performance.

    Assuming that last years team would only score the same 5 goals with Halak in goal is a big jump in logic.  We have witnessed this year how the team plays different with each goalie in net.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  12. Les Habitants says:

    Never said all Russians.

    Just seems to me that of all countries that play hockey that Russia/ Belarus have the most of these “me-first” enigma type players.

    Sure Canada has it Heatley and Comire types too but IMO nowhere near the amount form Iron curtain.

    The Habs themselves have dealt with 3 now in the last 3 years starting with Perezhogin bailing, Then last year with pavel valentenko lying about family illness to defect to the KHL, and now its Sergei.( And don’t forget Grabo the clown, now with the leafs)

    Sure not all Russian are cut from the same cloth, but you can’t compare there hart for hockey to Canada’s IMO

     

    P.S Kovalev was my favorite Hab when he played so it’s just an opinion, not that I hate Russians

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  13. Chuck says:

    You can’t win, regardless of how well your goalie plays, if you don’t put the puck in the net. Goaltending and defense only determines how few of them you’ll need.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  14. wotever says:

    I think Halak made a lot of progress this year, so maybe.  But I think it was more about scoring than goaltending.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  15. nick says:

    Well given that AK is one of the few guys on the team capable of netting a hat trick… It’s my amature opinion there might be a reason to play AK over one of the call ups… but thats me.

    Lets go with your idea, not play AK… and stick Maxwell their instead. Oh ya… now we’re talking!

  16. habs03 says:

    I wonder what Russian think of NA players playing in the KHL, maybe the reason for the lack of passion is the connection to the game, ex you can see Cammy connection to the nhl, you think he would be this passionate playing in the KHL, just wondering if maybes that’s the issue.

  17. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    great post.

  18. linp says:

    Did you watch the game? The shots on goal was 13 to 3 in the second period. They dominated the game completely. Our team looked tired.

  19. krob1000 says:

    …….and coaches and management are also supposed to act like professionals no?

    why did he go to the minors?…I saw those exhibition games and he played his way back onto the team despite being recently recovered from shoulder surgery…..this team has had it in for him since some media moron created a scandal out of nothig and Sergei took the fall for a non controversy…..that is when this all began and that is where the relationship really died…..taht and when he was benched and scolded for trying to defend Andrei when NOBODY else would aftter he was clobbered with a ridiculously late hit. Between those moments Sergei probably had a hint that the organization did not care for him and he was not part of the family they allege to be.  Then he shows up to camp injured, still plays his way onto the team and is sent down again with no explanation? I don;t blame him for being pissed at all……then he comes back, plays a defensive role to near perfection, does what is asked and again gets banished for reasons unknown, he was NEVEr given a chance on the PP when a monkey could see he would be effective there, he has 100 percent right IMO to be pissed and through it all he has never let his on ice play be affected…he did wverything that was asked of him……guess when you don;t get along with the 8 million dollar man and the coach your time is done though…..what a shame…

    From a mangaement perspective if I could trade Gomez and JM straight up for Sergei in the offseason I would….I would in a heartbeat……

    Ryder, Perezhogin, Valentenko, Latendresse, Dagostini, MAxwell, Sergei Kostitsyn and soon to be Pouliot and Andrei Kostitsyn it appears, Lapierre was almost there too and may be before long….I see a common theme here…….the Habs for some reason feel it necessary to have a scapegoat for some reason.

    Sergei will have success somewhere and I wish him the best…..

  20. boris420 says:

    It’s the unfortunate truth tho. Our guys grow up knowing the importance of the stanley cup. Russian players just want the fame and the money…Obviously you cannot generalize but look at the best Canadian and Russian. Crosby won the cup last year and almost the year before. Ovechkin on the other hand…different story!

  21. boris420 says:

    I thought last game was great until the third started. Honestly I agree we don’t need to change much from last game except play 60 minutes. You will get bad luck sometimes and miss sure goals…other times the bounces will just go your way. It’s h0ckey!

  22. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    yup.

  23. Mats Naslund says:

    What does any of that have to do with being Russian? I take it no North American player has ever had a dispute with his team before? Where did Dany Heatley grow up again? Sergei is an individual. Whether or not there is a problem with his personality is up to those who actually know him to judge. You and I have no idea. 

  24. Drive_For_25 says:

    How do you throw Spacek into that mix?  Might not have had his best season, but down the stretch and what he did play in the playoffs was top notch. 

  25. spoonfullofjelly says:

    Last year we scored 5 goals in those 4 games. We scored 5 goals in 1 game in the first round and lost. Sure Price didn’t play his best but we would have had to won 2-1,1-0,1-0,1-0……….

    Comon, Halak is on fire, but to still not realise that last year was more of being beaten by a grinding team who snuffed us out as opposed to our goalie blowing it is ridiculous.

  26. linp says:

    Latendresse is another case how JM handles young player.

  27. TripleX says:

    JM’s strategy for tonight: ” ok guys great game on Tuesday we play the same way except Cammy you score this time”…..what a dumbass.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  28. Drive_For_25 says:

    I don’t think AK is cut from the same cloth as Sergei.  I think he’s all about confidence.  He looked very confident in his abilities last game and was laying the body every chance he got to keep his energy level up, I think AK has a few more flashes of greatness in store for us these playoffs.  I also don’t think Sergei is as bad as everyone thinks, just got stuck with a coach that he clashes with.

  29. linp says:

    Pyatt is useful only when we are defending a lead. He is useless when we need to score goal.

  30. Josh says:

    Martin seems to be great with young players.. I can’t wait until Boucher takes over.

  31. Fansincebirth says:

    There are a lot of players I would take before I would take Pyatt. What does this have to do with SK?

    Pyatt is playing great hockey but saying you’d take Pyatt over SK just doesn’t make any sense.

    I’d take PK over MAB.

    I’d take Marky over MAB.

    I’d take Pleks over….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  32. terrygain says:

    Nonsense. He’s plus/minue zero overall in the playoffs.  He was plus 2 in his  second last game in 8 minutes and got to play all of 3 minutes in his next game. SK played very well with Moen and Moore. Martin is a crappy coach who is out of touch. And his teams play boring hockey. He’s not going to win with 3 lines. There’s only one reason the Habs are still playing.

  33. Propwash says:

    Something must have happened off ice. In the NHL, you’re supposed to act professional, not piss and moan cause you were sent to the minors. Who knows what else went on.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  34. linp says:

    Anyway you look at it, it is a failure from the management who can’t work it out with the K brothers. Our team would be better if both K brothers were playing to their potential. Too bad the management couldn’t solve the issue.The current situation hurts the team more than the K brothers.

    I couldn’t see our team could continue be successful with 3 lines. Our top lines will be worn out and Pittsburgh will control the game like the last two periods on Tuesday. I have full respect for our players who fought very hard and have achieved a lot in this playoff. I wouldn’t give much credits to JM. Without Halak and Cammy and some lucks, our team is long gone.

  35. Storm Man says:

    Martin told SK the system in place is the rope a dope, SK looked at Martin and said I would like to rope the dope who came up with that game plan. Martin said bye bye SK

  36. Les Habitants says:

    Why are so many Russians/Belarusians so shelf-absorbed with the “me before the team” attitude? Some much talent but so little hart. I really think this is why the ruskies did so poorly at the Olympics. Take Radulov for one example, he already bailed on the preds in a less than honourable exit and look how he sulked and turned on his team when the preverbal ” sh*t hit the fan” when they were eliminated from medal contention.

    And Sergei, with all that talent is now less valuable to us in the playoffs then Lapierre, or even Pyatt because these players play with hart and a caring for the team they play for.

    Talent is useless unless you put in the hard work and drive that everyone else on the team is putting in.

    Just seem like such a waste of talent, and IMO it all falls on Sergei himself.

     

     

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  37. ds says:

    SK has become a solid defensive player this year.  He & Gomez had good chemistry for a while on the PK when the team killed 30+ consecutive pp’s.  The guy has good offensive skills as well and is a dangerous player on the ice who is responsible defensively.  Is he affecting team morale?  That’s the only reason to bench this guy.  SK-Moore-Laps was a great line for a while this year and they had better chemistry than with brick hands Pyatt.  Unfortunately BG made 2 mistakes this off season, hiring JM & signing Spacek.  Let’s hope they win tonight with or without SK.

  38. CHsam says:

    Agree with you. Its such a f’n distraction. ugh

  39. boris420 says:

    Agree to disagree

  40. boris420 says:

    Where will the scoring come from tonight? You say this as if it was coming from him in the past games. Honestly the coach is in the best position to make these decisions and I stick with what ever he does…hey, he got us this far didn’t he? So maybe he’s not such a bad coach after all!

  41. TripleX says:

    Think last years team would have not gone further with a hot Halak instead of Price in goal?  That was Bob being stubborn nothing to do with the team.

    This years team has won 5 games and Halak was the FIRST STAR in each game.  Think goaltending might be the reason for the success?

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  42. boris420 says:

    Same here, pyatt is very determined and wants to win and wants to improve. Sergei is on a downhill slope to the KHL like all those other reject losers!

  43. boris420 says:

    Once apon a time

  44. lavie says:

    Stupid Jungle Martini! He brought up the SK controversy at a WRONG TIME!

  45. habs03 says:

    I’ll take a hard working Pyatt over S.Kost anyday, Last year team had more skill than this years team for sure, yet this year we are in the second round of the playoffs and last year we couldn’t win a game, you know, because of hard work and heart.

  46. habs63 says:

    durr

    Andrie plays so much better with SK in the lineup

  47. boris420 says:

    Everyone saying his problem is with the coach here is some proof that it’s not Jacques Martin’s fault, these go back and it’s only been getting worse since then! Sergei has the wrong attitude!

     

    price not liking sergei’s commitement:

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/hockey/2010/05/04/004-habs-skostitsyn-price.shtml

     

    Here are some answers to an interview with Sergei:

     

    You
    were told you’d definitely have a spot?

    Well, I wasn’t
    told I’d be on the first or second line, but I was told that there was a
    spot on the team for me and that I should get ready for the season.
    This is how it was.

    And then you were informed that you’d
    be sent to the AHL.

    Yes. And I can’t understand why.

    But you
    refused to report to
    the AHL.

    Yes, I called my agent right away to tell him I
    wouldn’t go there.

    Why?

    Because I know how
    I can play. I don’t know why I was sent there in the first place. I
    played alright during the pre-season. I don’t know why I was sent there,
    that’s why I didn’t go.

    So, you don’t see your future
    with Montreal anymore?

    I don’t think so.

    What

    did your agent advise you when you told him you wanted to change teams?

    My

    agent supported me right away, because he understood that I shouldn’t
    be playing for the [farm] club. And they agreed with me that I should be
    traded right away.

    And what were you told at the club
    when you
    didn’t report to the AHL?

    I didn’t talk to anyone at the
    club. My agents spoke with the club and talked about a trade. And it
    looked like Bob Gainey agreed to it.

    Do you know of any
    teams that are interested in you? Did your agent talk with anyone?

    I
    will talk to my agent in the coming days. I think my agent spoke with
    some teams. I don’t know yet. He hasn’t told me anything.

    Do

    you think maybe there is your fault in being sent to the AHL? Maybe you
    didn’t work hard enough? Or other reasons?

    I have
    absolutely no idea. It looked like I played alright during the
    pre-season. Initially I couldn’t practice fully because my shoulder was
    still bothering me and I couldn’t have full contact. And then I played
    in the last two games, I scored a goal. And then I wasn’t dressed for
    the very last game [of the pre-season] and right after that game I was
    told that I should go to the AHL. I just couldn’t understand at all why.

    So, in your opinion, you practiced well and approached
    your duties like a professional should.

    Yes, of course.

    What

    are you doing now? Are you keeping yourself in shape?

    Yes,

    of course. I practice on my own. I have a personal coach here with me
    as well.

    Do you think the scandal last season involving
    you and alleged ties to some criminal somehow affected your game or your
    relationship with Montreal, or the way you were viewed at the club?

    Maybe

    it did have some effect. I don’t know. It is the media writing all of
    these things. Overall 90 percent of what the press writes is not true.
    Maybe the club believed them. I don’t know.

  48. Habs_Fan_1 says:

    You’re right. I didn’t lead the reader by the nose in my previous post. I will try again.

    On draft day, you hear many teams talking about taking the most skilled players available. The thinking is that you can’t teach skill, but you can develop the work ethic and similar traits. Sergei has the former but very little of the latter.

    I was merely suggesting that there may be a concious effort on the part of management to incorporate more well rounded players on the team. Makes sense to me…

  49. habs03 says:

    Are you guys serious, I posted this under but I’m gonna say it again, I
    have nothing vs the brothers and I use to love them, specially S.Kost,
    but what do you expect, he does not want to work his way back to the
    lineup, yesterday he left practice early, and you expect to reward that
    by putting him back into the lineup, are you guys serious, the reason
    S.Kost is not in the lineup is because of Sergei, and as for his brother
    not playing well because his bro isn’t playing, very professional.

  50. zozotheclown says:

    I’m not surprised, at this point in his career he doesn’t have the talent to be a top 6, even though I’m sure at some point he will be that good, mix that with the fact that his ego won’t let him play minimal minutes, and you get this. Another one of those players who would have benefited from a much longer time in the AHL, we brought him up too soon just so he could play with his brother.

  51. TripleX says:

    Even I can’t believe JM and the Montreal management is that incompetent to throw SK in the trash over something like leaving practice early.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  52. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    AK46 will be a no show tonight. His mind will be on SK74 and not hockey. Its to bad that JM has made up his mind in not playing SK74. Might as well bench AK46 after his 1st shift tonight. Were will the scoring come from tonight? Could be another goose egg in the oven? Hope not? Habs will have another short bench and could be out of gas by the 3rd period? I wonder what Priceberg has to say now? The message in on the wall if AK46 does not show up tonight. I figure management will shipped both of them in an off season trade for future considerations TO FREE UP SALARY CAP SPACE. OOOOOH A LA LA!!!!

  53. nickster13 says:

    im not an SK fan, but i still think he would be far more effective than like Darche or somebody

  54. HABS Rule 25 says:

    Martin is an idiot!! Yes Sergei acted like a spoiled brat a few months back, but if you look at his play since he was called back he’s been excellent for us. Short shifts, no stupid penalties, used on the PK, good hustle, i really had no major complaints. He has the talent and does much more than Darche or Maxwell who have been useless. I don’t understand what SK did to warrant JM’s wrath…

  55. HabFanSince72 says:

    Have you seen those three play lately?

    Are you people even watching the games?

     

  56. lavie says:

    SK was doing really good in OHL (London Knights);

    SK was doing
    really good in AHL (Dogs);

    SK was doing really good with Guy
    Carbo;

    SK was doing really good with Guy Boucher;

    SK was
    doing really good in Team Belarus;

     

    SK has trouble with
    Jacques Martini.

  57. boris420 says:

    That would be a disaster waiting to happen…ouch I can’t believe someone actually suggested this!

  58. Storm Man says:

    not much point in playing AK tonight.

  59. HabFanSince72 says:

    Why do the SK fans keep arguing that he hasn’t had a chance in the playoffs?

    He played 4 games against the Caps and he SUCKED.

  60. StevieRay says:

    I agree … I’d tell them to shove it also !

     you can also add to that .. dressing Darche and this leaving him on the bench for the “whole” game .. not one shift !.. thing how he would feel .. I ‘m curious if that has ever happened before to a Hab .. Bet not ?

  61. thebonscott says:

    Good riddance, he should have his jersey revoked, do u know how many canadian hockey players would give their left nut to put on a habs jersey and play their heart out, just look at tom pyatt, they are out there, also his brother taylor is ufa this summer, would be good on the 4th line, those are brothers i can handle, i think andrei may be untradeable, so prob just as well to buy out if can’t trade, it is embarassing to the organization to keep him.

  62. HabFanSince72 says:

    Why look for something off ice?

    His on-ice performance is all you need to understand why he is benched.

     

     

  63. nickster13 says:

    probably, but unless this thing is significant then he should have gotten or should get a game, lets be honest here, everyone takes games much more seriously and their attitude changes for big games. Lame situation!

  64. Treefingers says:

    Martin is a total moron.

    How good would a SK-Metro-AK line be?? I mean come on…

  65. Mats Naslund says:

    Markov, Halak, Hamrlik, Plecanek, Andrei Kostitsyn, Spacek…… you’re right all a bunch of trouble makers.

  66. TripleX says:

    I can’t believe the organization would trash a talent like SK over a petulant attitude.  I think something must have occurred OFF ICE and it is serious.  Hopefully the full story will come out after the playoffs.

    What is it with young players and the Habs?  I pray PK Suban is properly mentored when he comes up full time next season.  Price, SK, Lats, Laps and looking like Pouliot lately.  How many more must be damaged before management wakes up?

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  67. Kooch7800 says:

    I think there is more going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about

  68. Habs_Fan_1 says:

    The team seems to have more of a North American core than in years past. Coincidence or not, Sergei’s roller coaster ride is a good example of why that may be occurring.

  69. Mikey_39 says:

    We keep complaining about Andrei Kostitsyn, but it must be pretty tough on him being on a team that clearly doesn’t want your brother.  I mean seriously put yourself in his shoes…That’s a huge distraction to have.  I’ve always loved sergei, but i Really feel bad for andrei, especially since he doesn’t speak english that well, so his brother is kind of the only person he really has

  70. alestar says:

    You can’t help someone who won’t help themselves…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  71. nickster13 says:

    This makes no sense! At least give Sergei a chance to play in a meaningful game and then make that decision, its not fair basing if they play on practices since they dont mean anything. He should have gotten a real game to prove his coach wrong, Sergei is stuck between a rock and a hard place

  72. Velavok says:

    If your not buying into the team concept at this time of the year than you probably never will. You would think his stint in hamilton would have provided some education for the guy.

    We don’t need passengers, good on JM for keeping him away from the guys that DO care, and DO sacrifice.

    Trade him to the leafs for a 3rd rounder so he and Grabovski can renew acquaintances.

  73. Mats Naslund says:

    Piss-poor management of a kid who could have really helped us. 

  74. Storm Man says:

    The sad thing coach rope a dope is going to be here next year.

  75. Storm Man says:

    I guess JM did not go to the same coaching school as you did.

  76. TomNickle says:

    Haha….YES.  And subsequently doing the exact opposite of what fans offer for advice.  Moves that are very likely to be made that will infuriate fans and leave them wondering why.

    1. Letting Sergei walk to the KHL.

    2. Trading Andrei Kostitsyn for a mid round draft pick.

    3. Keeping Roman Hamrlik.

    4. Trading Jaroslav Halak.

    5. Letting Plekanec walk via free agency and moving Cammalleri to the middle.

     

  77. ManApart says:

    I wonder if Philly is all up in arms, blaming their coach for being behind, because he benched Ville Leino the past 3 games, like Montreal fans are doing for SK. For some reason, I have my doubts.

  78. havok says:

    this times a MILLION!

  79. TomNickle says:

    I’m sure he’s been to better but I don’t get what you’re saying.

    I think that’s exactly how he’s handling the young players.

  80. habs03 says:

    You say there is lack of communicating but do you have any proof of that? Because early in the season when SK left the AHL team Gainey went to talk to him and he went back, even when Gainey stepped down, Josh Georges said that early on, when he was benched Gainey called him to the office to talk with him and to make sure he knew what was going on.

  81. Velavok says:

     

    Im tired of the endless JM bashing. He is OUR coach, he is on a 4 year deal, agree or disagree with his hiring, he IS OUR guy. So maybe we all should have some faith that he has his finger on the pulse of the team. That maybe he knows removing a distraction (however talented) will be for the greater good.

     

    Its always the easy way out to blame the coach, the Carbo bashing around here never ended. If you look at the last, 5+ coaches we had (on the fly here..) Carbo, Julien, Therien, Vignualt,

     

    NONE of them had NHL experience, we brought them in and let them “learn on the fly” after some good and bad years it was the same thing, all the time, always starting over, the “old” coach moves on with some experience and generally does better the next time around (With another team) 

     

    So we finally bucked the trend and went out and got a coach with experience and signed him to a 4 year deal. The other way clearly wasn’t working, so try something new, actually hiring someone that HAS coaching experience, good, im glad it was done, now lets give the guy a chance and stop calling for his head cause as much as you want it to be, the grass is not always greener.

     

  82. HabFanSince72 says:

    Unrelated, but a guy who is called “Vile” sure found the right hockey club.

     

  83. HABZ24 says:

    sk74 has talent but his young punk azz attitude is killing him, time to grow up yuh punk start acting lke a pro. something about the team is on the ice practicing and sergei skates off then price goes in dressing room to tell him to get out there and he refuses. true? ur not that good punkazz kid. we need to get a lead,play defence but keep the pedal to the metal offensivly. do or die down 3 1 to pitts would be over.

  84. Storm Man says:

    That is my point he is coaching like he is back in the 90’s things have change, He has not.

  85. Habsone says:

    Well said!!!

  86. Storm Man says:

    I have a bad feeling Boucher is going to end up in Tampa, And win the cup in the next four years.

  87. TomNickle says:

    Ultimately we’re talking about a player that refused to report for work, has been disrespectful and downright nasty towards teammates and hasn’t done enough on the ice to justify the behaviour.

    I think if nothing else he needed to prove that he could be a model citizen for at least a full season prior to being given a chance to do what he loves……SCORE.

    I don’t have any issues with the way Martin has handled him given his recent attitude, which might be more habit than recent.

  88. dallyd31 says:

    Why? Because it’s a team sport and everyone is expected to pull their weight and work hard.  No one is better or more priveleged than anyone else. That is exactly why SK has played himself off of this team, and lost all respect from his teammates. Have you ever played competative hockey.  Any guy that doesn’t work as hard as the rest or thinks they are better than anyone else becomes an outcast and loses respect from the team….and gets called and deserves to be.

    I hate Crosby, but that guy works his ass off and trains hard…that is one reason he excels.  He has more talent than anyone, but works harder than anyone also.  Anybody who has any desire to get better does. 

    Unless SK grows up, his career will be very short and will be welcome very few places.

  89. dallyd31 says:

    My thoughts exactly.  Respect and ice time (and improving yourself) are earned through hard work and dedication.  SK has shown neither and from what I have read, has lost all respect from his teammates.

     

    Looks to me like JM is trying to segregate him from the room in order not to lower moral by having a bad “room guy” hanging around.

  90. lavie says:

    The latest “disagreement” between JM and SK is somehow the copy of the case of Carbo-Ryder.

  91. Fansincebirth says:

    Break out the paper airplanes….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  92. krob1000 says:

    You are acting as if he wasn;t msitreated the year before..you are not looking at the whole situation here…you are ignoring the fact he was single out for mobstergate (that turned out to be a sham) and sent down despite playing his best hockey, youa re forgetting that he was punished for being the only guy coming to his borthers aid after having been cheapshotted…you are ignoring the events that led up to that position and the fact that the organization did not communicate with him…he had every right to be pissed IMO.  The whole NHL refuse to show for work, and at one point the owners refused to let them work so that is irrelevant.  This was a relationship gone bad due to a lack of communication and that seems to be a common theme in the organization these days……considering that trend, the fact the team is 100 years old and supposedly the classiest around, the fact that he was a kid…I am inclined to take the stance that the organization is more to blame based on what I know and have seen and read and people are guessing at….when I consider the whole picture and what has got us here.

  93. joeybarrie says:

    I just figured it out. Now I understand why there is so much sympathy for Sergei. We have fans who are as whiny and bitchy as Sergei is.

    This kid has been nothing but a mess of distraction and irresponsibility. Do we really believe that he is in the dog house because he isn’t French?

    In order to succeed you must first WANT to succeed. Not simply expect it to come. The difference between players who make it and players who don’t is the little things they do that the others don’t pay attention to.

    I am really sick of hearing how terrible this team is, and how much of a HUGE HOLE the usual suspects of bashing have put this team. Gainey, JM, PG, Price, Halak, Gill, Latendresse, Pouliot, Gomez, AK, etc, etc. Its pathetic. ENOUGH already. This team made the playoffs, beat the presidents cup team, and are now in the 2nd round playing against the current champions. We have done this with MASSIVE amounts of injury and the games that we do lose, the bulk of them have been by only 1 goal. BY THE WAY I do not count empty net goals.

    WAKE UP and realize where this team is. OH MAN, I wish we were as good as New Jersey, Washington, or Buffalo…………………..So we could go play golf early. The San Jose Sharks are 3-0 in their series, and the best team in the playoffs right now is the Boston Bruins. We have a great core, and this team has shown what it can do when it plays half the season without it best player, and missing MANY MANY games to our top 2 lines, defense included.

    We are missing our top 2 Defense and still keeping the current CHAMPIONS to only 1 goal. And we are all bitching about Sergei Kostitsyn. The kid can’t even make the fricken BUS, let alone make it to the top lines on the team. But yeah, JM is holding him down, because he doesnt like his haircut. DO YOU KNOW HOW STUPID YOU SOUND? SAME NONSENSE WITH HOW MANY OTHERS??????????????

    -Ryder, Grabovski, Higgins, Kovalev, Komi, Tanguay, Lang, Streit, Dandy, Kosto, Bouillon, SOURAY, ETC ETC ETC ETC………………

    MOVE FORWARD….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  94. T-roy West says:

    How is this team self destructing? If anything they are closer together. The only ones on the out’s are the tit brothers. I think that the rest of the team is all on the same page.

  95. TomNickle says:

    Good team defense, timely goal scoring, good coaching and elite goaltending.

    Lots of reasons, not just one.

  96. Storm Man says:

    I hear you 100 percent on what is going on with SK, Im just sick of all of the young players falling apart with this team. When was the last time this team drafted someone that stayed with the team more then 6 years? and was any good number 11……

  97. HugeHabsFan says:

    And isn’t it funny – seems like there’s short term memory loss around here.  Weren’t the majority of the posters in this place thinking he was a god when we wiped out the Caps?  I’m pretty sure I heard lots of praise for Martin at that point.  So now we’re down 2-1 (TWO TO ONE, big effing deal!!!) to the Pens and again he’s an idiot.  I just don’t get it.

    No one expected us to get anywhere near this far in these playoffs.  Can’t people just be happy for once??  Take it for what it is and just ENJOY it?!?

    And the whole SK thing – obviously there’s more to the story than we all know.  If he was the model player, do you think he’d be benched??  From what we DO know he’s been nothing but a spoiled brat.  So why defend him? 

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  98. TomNickle says:

    I don’t know how he was mistreated the prior season.

    As far as the organization being to blame.  I don’t buy that.  He and his brother are employed by an organization residing in North America and have made very little effort to become good teammates or employees.

    Instead of trying to speak to the Coach or General Manager when he was sent down to Hamilton to begin the year, he had his agent do his talking for him and requested a trade because he felt he earned a roster spot.

    You know just as well as I do that the owners forced a work stoppage because the players were making too much money and the game needed to be changed.  I’m not a supporter of Gary Bettman but it’s one of few instances during his NHL career where he got something close to correct.

     

  99. Fansincebirth says:

    I hope (pray) you’re right Troy.

    This just seems all too familiar. Big (disruptive) news item hits the airwaves at the worst of times.

    Concentration needs to be on the ice, Pens and moving forward, not on SK, JM, AK etc……

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  100. Say Ash says:

    The market’s in freefall! I need a win tonight, boys! Please!

  101. joeybarrie says:

    And your ignoring the fact that a kid who hasnt proved ANYTHING yet managed to miss a bus right before a big game for him in what was supposed to be his BIG year. He whined all the way to his apartment crying cause he got sent down and took his ball and went home. How much more does it take to prove that this kid is a HUGE baby???  Be a friken MAN, do it for yourself. For god’s sake I had more balls, respect, and character when I was 10.

    Do you really think that everything you read is ALL there is???????  You don’t think, I dont know, maybe the COACH knows a bit more to this story than you do???????  But go ahead judge it out. But honestly, tell me what this kid has done to deserve ANYTHING but a BUS ticket to the KHL??????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  102. T-roy West says:

    Awesome rant! I feel 100% the same way.

  103. dallyd31 says:

    Amen !

     

  104. Matthew says:

    Hear hear!

  105. HabFanSince72 says:

    With the Belarus Rocket as his captain.

    Mark my words.

     

  106. joeybarrie says:

    Tomas Plekanec

     

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  107. Malreg says:

    “I am really sick of hearing how terrible this team is, and how much of a HUGE HOLE the usual suspects of bashing have put this team. Gainey, JM, PG, Price, Halak, Gill, Latendresse, Pouliot, Gomez, AK, etc, etc. Its pathetic. ENOUGH already.”

    Don’t forget Hamrlik, Spacek, Lapierre, Plekanec, MARKOV, Bergeron, Metropolit(every one wanted his head when he took a late penalty in two consecutive games near the beginning of the year).  The only ones that have not received a lot of hate seem to be Gionta and Cammalleri.

  108. HugeHabsFan says:

    I agree with absolutely everything you said except hating Crosby.  I hate that he’s a whiner, but think he’s amazing in so, so many other ways.

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  109. Psycho29 says:

    The best post since the playoffs started!

  110. Storm Man says:

    you forgot number 6. Boucher is the next coach for Tampa, SK and AK and Halak get traded to Tampa for Vinny. Pleks goes as a UFA  to Tampa we get Vinny and run him out of town and Tampa wins the cup. 

  111. T-roy West says:

    Your right it does sound way to familiar. Less drama around this team would be nice. I think JM had enough and also that the other players i.e. Cammi, asked him to do something about it.

  112. Ton says:

    and to boot, jm always gives those players a chance to get it together but he wants them to play his way. i have no choice in real life, i must follow rules also, my boss, wife etc. we have all watched the brothers (Kost) dog it in these playoffs, its very obvious. too bad because they could have made a difference. what do you do they were given many chances.

  113. Storm Man says:

    He is gone after this year.

  114. HugeHabsFan says:

    And you’re forgetting that there are how many other men on this roster that have absolutely no problem what so ever with this club.  I’d say that speaks for itself.

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  115. joeybarrie says:

    How much does this kid make to play hockey 82 games a year?????  600k a year at 22.   BOO HOO. Let’s all have a good cry over him.  I mean COME ON. I make ALOT less than that at work and I think I try harder than he does. And I don’t try very hard at all. Show a little backbone, character and sense of respect FOR YOURSELF and your SO CALLED TRADE….  I just cant stand all this nonsense.

    How well is Ryder doing with his paper airplanes???   36 points in 91 games….  Character shows everything. And they are paying 4 million for that… What did i hear two weeks ago???? Ryder COULDNT STOP SCORING IN THE PLAYOFFS…  He stopped with the two goals he had right then. 0 for his last 5 games. Savard makes 1 million more, and has the same numbers in half the games…..PATHETIC

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  116. Storm Man says:

    TAP is doing ok trading at 42.52 a share

  117. HugeHabsFan says:

    No sympathy here baby.  Either show up and leave it all out on the ice, or go home.  It’s pretty simple.  As I stated in a reply below.  No one else on this roster has an issue but SK – that in itself speaks volumes.

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  118. StevieRay says:

    easy….big guy … we are where we are because of ” HALAK ” !  

  119. TomNickle says:

    In all fairness, Hamrlik and Latendresse were craters.

    Hamrlik seems to have to be HEAVILY relied on just to be moderately effective.

  120. lavie says:

    At 14:45 EST:
    41.04 USD  Down 2.37 (5.46%) 

  121. ab-hab-nut says:

    Ya Pooliote reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite’s brother, what was his name?? Kip, skip? Funny mustache, grow it all man!!

  122. Danno says:

    You can win cool Hockey Canada stuff just by visiting Dennis Kane’s blog.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  123. joeybarrie says:

    OH NO, Camma had his fair shar the first few games when he didn’t score. What did he go 8-9 games with 0-2 goals??? Then he scores a hat trick, andhe flood gates open. He is on pace for 40+ until he gets injured. 

    DO not foret the Gionta is too small rants……. He cant get it done, he will constantly be injured.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  124. 11habs11 says:

    Just an awesome post. Can’t wait till that little b***h is out of Montreal so we can stop talking about him

  125. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    In other news, the Montreal Canadiens host the defending Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins tonight in Game 4 of their semi-final match-up.

  126. T-roy West says:

    I hear ya Chris. It’s starting to get a little pathetic.

  127. TomNickle says:

    Ha, you’re such a waste of time.  I don’t recall saying that Halak had a crappy attitude or played poorly.

    I’m of the opinion that our team got to the playoffs largely because of his play.

    You just don’t seem to be able to read and comprehend all that well.

    Please don’t volunteer to give Andrei Kostitsyn english lessons.

    I wouldn’t want him thinking good job meant you’re terrible.

  128. Danno says:

    I know we pick on Crosby for being a whiner and stuff, but I wanted to share this adorable baby picture of young Sidney with his dad.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  129. sidhu says:

    Might as well say AK is as good as gone as well, relegated to the 4th line and now disincentivized to play hard for Montreal in our remaining games.  They’re obviously very close, and if we diss SK, AK will only play that less harder.

    Let the speculation begin: AK + SK for ???

  130. lavie says:

    You tuned to the right channel. Go Habs Go!

  131. Say Ash says:

    I help that stock out as often as I can.

  132. Malreg says:

    Bob Mckenzie chimes in: http://tsn.ca/blogs/?id=320748

    There’s not much doubt what the Montreal Canadiens – and that includes management, coaching staff and players – would like to do with Sergei Kostitsyn right about now.

    Kick his butt down Rue Ste. Catherine on the way out of town would appear to sum it up.

    But it’s in no one’s best interest at this moment to make a spectacle of the Sergei Kostistyn situation.

    The Canadiens are getting ready for tonight’s Game 4 against the Pittsburgh Penguins, down 2-1 in the series.

    Actually, Sergei Kostitsyn, based on his ample talent and skill, is a player who could help the Canadiens right now. The Canadiens are lacking depth. Some of their better players look as though they may be wearing down.

    But the Canadiens have no intention of giving Kostitsyn that opportunity because they believe his attitude has been so negative and his work ethic so abysmal. His overheard verbal exchange with netminder Carey Price – Price called him out for not doing some extra work at practice – highlighted what is known to one and all. Kostistyn is on his own program and the situation appears to be beyond salvage.

    Kostitsyn’s teammates would rather lose without him than take their chances with him in the lineup.

    That Sergei’s brother Andrei is supposed to be a top six forward complicates things as well.

    The bottom line, though, is that Sergei Kostitsyn has no real future with the team. But he won’t be officially banished right now because that would be a distraction in the middle of a playoff series and besides, the Canadiens don’t want do anything publicly to further diminish a clearly diminishing asset they’ll try to move in the off season.

    But the fact he wasn’t skating with the team today at the game-day skate tells you everything you need to know about his status with the team.

    He doesn’t have any.”

  133. SeriousFan09 says:

    Considering their value right now, **** all.

    Toss in a draft pick and/or a prospect and maybe there’s a deal to be had.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  134. Storm Man says:

    Watching the Habs at the Bell centre does not make me money, I lose money if they dont win. Same goes with the market :)

  135. krob1000 says:

    yeah but Chris now it is 4 hours away……look how much time this killed!

  136. habs4ever2894 says:

    To Minnesota:

    Sk+Ak

    To Montreal:

    Guillaume Latendresse

    I hear he has a sweet wraparound

  137. habsman-itoba says:

    That’s beautiful, but is there anyway to get Buttman’s face in there?

  138. joe-hab-nuno says:

    “our father, who are in bell center, hockey be thy name, thy will be done, the cup be won, on ice as well as in the stands… give us this day our hockey sticks and forgive us our penalties…. as we forgive those who cross-check against us. Lead us not into elimination and deliver us to victory.. In the name of the fans.. lord stanley. and the holy halak!!! AMEN!”

  139. TomNickle says:

    Your spelling confirms my comment but anywhoo.  Halak has had just as many stinkers as he has great games.  That being said, he won’t be kept because they won’t be able to pay him the $5 million per season that he’s going to command.  They won’t trade him because of his play, they’ll trade him because of what his salary demands will be.

     

  140. Saint-Laz HabsFan says:

    Notre Père qui êtes aux cieux, que CROSBY soit maîtrisé, que MALKIN
    saigne, que FLEURY soit felluette sur la glace comme dans la tête.
    Donnez-nous cette année enfin notre COUPE STANLEY, pardonnez-nous
    d’avoir douté de l’équipe toute l’année… comme nous pardonnons aussi a
    tous ceux qui les ont hués. Tu peux ammener L’ÉQUIPE chez Paré, les
    soumettre a la tentation MAIS SURTOUT, délivre-nous des PENGUINS!!!
    Amen.

  141. derfab says:

    Do not cut your losses with this kid. What the other players say or think is of no importance. Keep him in the fold, have him back at camp with smiles and hugs, then trade his ass for something of value.

  142. Danno says:

    Vous etes magnifique mon Capitaine!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  143. MontrealAtheist says:

    No French please, this is a Canadiens forum :) Go Habs Go !!!

  144. derfab says:

    AK plays on first line tonight.

  145. bostonantifan says:

    That would be a brilliant trade for both teams. Minnesota would trade a guy that has performed well for them for a pair of underachieving malcontents with lousy work ethics. Montreal would be getting back a player who didn’t put forth any effort when he played for them the first time, and has no desire to return. What makes you think he’d be any better than the stiff he was when he was first in Montreal?

  146. Say Ash says:

    Not cool at all, dude.

  147. bostonantifan says:

    When you’re being paid millions of dollars to play a game for a living, if you have to be given incentive to play/work hard, that should tell you all you need to know about that stiff.

  148. Mats Naslund says:

    might just be the smartest post of the day. hockey isn’t about making friends. everyone said he was gone for good when he was supposedly a gang member. he came back. then he was “gone” when he didn’t report to Hamilton. While everybody else is overreacting, PG needs to do what is best for the CH.

  149. ed lopaz says:

    I think the dude is joking about the trade.

  150. Danno says:

    Gillett’s stock has fallen badly. Not because of the market freefall. It’s because millions of Habs fans are growing playoff beards and aren’t buying their shaving products.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  151. coachdoug says:

    I miss the famous Gui wrap around…but not that much

    “Save us Turtleneck Man…We need you now more than ever!”

  152. Say Ash says:

    désolé

  153. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    haha! true, true. i got so distracted by the SK debate that i haven’t had time to stress out about the game!

  154. wotever says:

    That’s not actually how it works.  Being paid a million dollars doesn’t make you 20x more incentivized to work than a guy making $50000.  Especially since many teams will pay that (IF you can stay at the NHL level).

    At the happiness level this has been studied wrt lottery millionaires, whose happiness post winning (and a bit of time) is about the same as pre-winning.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  155. Iceberg84 says:

    I notice a lot of posts here talking about how Jacques Martin treats his players. It’s a bit funny though, because a year or two ago, I remember seeing similar comments about how Guy Carbonneau treated his players. Is it that the habs keep hiring coaches who don’t know how to handle young talent? Or the young talent doesn’t know how to handle playing in Montreal? Both? Another factor?

    It seems easy to blame the coach for mishandling players, but if you say that someone like Sergei parties too much, people respond by saying ‘how do you know that? you’re not in the locker room’ I’d like to respond by saying ‘how do you know Sergei is being treated unfairly and that JM doesn’t have a good reason for whatever he may or may not be doing?’

    I don’t think it’s useful or a good idea to polarize opinions and say ‘this is the only reason why this bad thing is happening’ I think there are a lot of different factors we may never fully understand as fans and the best thing to do is just hope that the best available team is on the ice to play as best they can.

  156. alfieturcotte says:

    SK 74 is no saviour, but it’s a no brainer that he is a huge upgrade compared to Metropolit or Darche.  I recall a stretch of games where he was probably our most important forward.  Furthermore, I can’t imagine that this kind of tension does not impact his older brother.  How can you just shut off — I imagine AK 46’s performance wil be impacted by this.  Price should not be applauded for his behavious — talk about the pot calling the kettle black…. 

  157. xlinkinparkx says:

    This really sucks, I always liked Sergie. Oh well I think he was talented but I did see him fall asleep sometimes…gusse this is the end of both K-brothers cause Andrie isint looking too good right now. 

    “Don’t stop believing”

     

  158. HabFanSince72 says:

    Bring back the Minsk Magician!

     

  159. kempie says:

    Regarding SK74, I think I have the solution. We should consider trading him. Maybe for Backstrom or Malkin.

  160. mbplekfan says:

    Its not about talent in the MTL dressing room. Its about heart. Doesnt matter if your a slow footed, mild mannered minor leaguer, if you try hard you are in.

    Doesnt matter if you are an undersized dman with questionable skills in your own end. If you care you are in.

    We will have the hardest working group of losers before JM is done.

  161. xlinkinparkx says:

    Thats a joke, your shooting too low, we need Rick Nash, acctually just trade everyone for NASH

    “Don’t stop believing”

  162. punkster says:

    This is nuts. This is worse than the manufactured goalie shitstorm (well, nothing’s worse than that crap actually).

    Please show us proof that this is JMs fault or SKs fault. Either one. Not opinion, not hate-fueled bull, not second and third hand rumour but facts.

  163. terrygain says:

    We know SK74 is being treated unfairly because we notice that Martin benches players if they make a  mistake. Last night Kane gave the puck away twice on the same PP. The giveaways were completely unforced. If he played for Martin he would be riding the pines.

  164. boris420 says:

    Very well said, good post!

  165. boris420 says:

    How can you even say that, how do you know? I doubt it!

  166. Le Jadester says:

    Well said !

    Habs, OLE !

  167. HUDSONHAB says:

    I think SK74 would be able to add a spark offensively and he kills penalties. I don’t know why JM doesn’t like SK but he would a great help. Oh well, lets move on.

    Go get them Pens.

    ….Hab4life….

  168. krob1000 says:

    well I guess it’s ok for your top 5 puick to have multiple cigarettes hanging out of his mouth and be plstered all over the internet with pictures of him blitzed out of his mind…..boys will be boys, they all party and there is no way Sergei is any worse than some of the other guys….that is not the issue…I am starting to believe there was far more to the Gomez and Sergei fight crap early on in the season now….

    As for the Carbo thing and the JM thing…yup…it’s not just a coach thing it is an organizational thing……one that has to change.

  169. Dintrox says:

    “MONTREAL – When backup goalie Carey Price, dripping with sweat, got to
    the Montreal dressing room after staying on late at the team’s game-day
    skate with others who won’t start Game 3 of their playoff series against
    Pittsburgh, fresh-looking Sergei Kostitsyn was walking by.

    “Why weren’t you on the ice?” an angry Price asked Kostitsyn, who also
    won’t play.

    Kostitsyn mumbled something and kept walking, and Price called after him
    “too good?” “

     

    and people complain poor Sergei is hard done by.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  170. terrygain says:

    See my 13:20 post.

  171. HabFanSince72 says:

    But if you are a magician from Minsk with a bit of an independent streak you are toast!

    Go win your Conn Smythe elsewhere baby!

     

  172. boris420 says:

    Lack of commitment, he could be a 30 goal scorer and his place would not be in a montreal dressing room! He will end up in the KHL watch!

  173. HabFanSince72 says:

    Come on JM, we need  the Bure from the Belarus.

  174. boris420 says:

    Heres some proof…took about 2 minutes to put together:

     

    Everyone saying his problem is with the coach
    here is some proof that it’s not Jacques Martin’s fault, these go back
    and it’s only been getting worse since then! Sergei has the wrong
    attitude!

     

    price not liking sergei’s commitement:

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/hockey/2010/05/04/004-habs-skostitsyn-

     

    Here
    are some answers to an interview with Sergei:

     

    You

    were told you’d definitely have a spot?

    Well, I wasn’t
    told I’d be on the first or second line, but I was told that there was a
    spot on the team for me and that I should get ready for the season.
    This is how it was.

    And then you were informed that you’d
    be sent to the AHL.

    Yes. And I can’t understand why.

    But you
    refused to report to
    the AHL.

    Yes, I called my agent right away to tell him I
    wouldn’t go there.

    Why?

    Because I know how
    I can play. I don’t know why I was sent there in the first place. I
    played alright during the pre-season. I don’t know why I was sent there,
    that’s why I didn’t go.

    So, you don’t see your future
    with Montreal anymore?

    I don’t think so.

    What

    did your agent advise you when you told him you wanted to change teams?

    My

    agent supported me right away, because he understood that I shouldn’t
    be playing for the [farm] club. And they agreed with me that I should be
    traded right away.

    And what were you told at the club
    when you
    didn’t report to the AHL?

    I didn’t talk to anyone at the
    club. My agents spoke with the club and talked about a trade. And it
    looked like Bob Gainey agreed to it.

    Do you know of any
    teams that are interested in you? Did your agent talk with anyone?

    I
    will talk to my agent in the coming days. I think my agent spoke with
    some teams. I don’t know yet. He hasn’t told me anything.

    Do

    you think maybe there is your fault in being sent to the AHL? Maybe you
    didn’t work hard enough? Or other reasons?

    I have
    absolutely no idea. It looked like I played alright during the
    pre-season. Initially I couldn’t practice fully because my shoulder was
    still bothering me and I couldn’t have full contact. And then I played
    in the last two games, I scored a goal. And then I wasn’t dressed for
    the very last game [of the pre-season] and right after that game I was
    told that I should go to the AHL. I just couldn’t understand at all why.

    So, in your opinion, you practiced well and approached
    your duties like a professional should.

    Yes, of course.

    What

    are you doing now? Are you keeping yourself in shape?

    Yes,

    of course. I practice on my own. I have a personal coach here with me
    as well.

    Do you think the scandal last season involving
    you and alleged ties to some criminal somehow affected your game or your
    relationship with Montreal, or the way you were viewed at the club?

    Maybe

    it did have some effect. I don’t know. It is the media writing all of
    these things. Overall 90 percent of what the press writes is not true.
    Maybe the club believed them. I don’t know.

  175. habs03 says:

    Right on, seems like everyone thinks S.Kost deserve to be put in our top 6, and poor A.Kost won’t play well cuz his bro aint playing.

  176. boris420 says:

    What he mumbled was ”None of your business”

  177. krob1000 says:

    all this proves to me is that the organization dropped the ball and did not communicate with him…..you keep posting this and I see absolutely nothing in it that changes anything

  178. idle says:

    lol

     

    It’s a MAB MAB world.

  179. boris420 says:

    cause your an idiot thats obviously never played hockey!

  180. TripleX says:

    I would have told Price to mind his own business and shove it where the sun don’t shine.  Who made him the sheriff?

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  181. Kouz69 says:

     I am so sick of Jack Martin. His system is brutal and he is hurting our young players. He’s a terrible coach and a selfish man. There is no captain on this team cause he thinks he’s the man. We are going to lose Sergie and Guy Boucher and who knows who else to keep Jack Martin and his boring system. He’s played head games with both goalies all season long. The bottom line is I can’t stand his coaching and hope we have Guy Boucher next year. The team won the first series with there heart and hard work and Halak standing on his head.

     Go Habs Go!!!

  182. TripleX says:

    We all saw it the first four times dude.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  183. krob1000 says:

    quite confident I could outplay you buds

  184. nick says:

    I agree with Krob… All that shows is that there is a lack or break in communication between the young players, in this case SK, and the organization. I don’t see how calling him an idiot has anything to do with making your point.

  185. boris420 says:

    Again hockey is not a 1 player sport and you don’t seem to get that. Im confident you can outplay me 1 on 1 but if I had a team that WANTED to win and you had a team of losers who don’t practice and who constantly put you in a bad mood…Im confident we would win despite being less skilled.

  186. lavie says:

    Jeff Molson, are you listening?

  187. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. It’s Geoff.

    2. If you were him, would you be listening?

  188. habs03 says:

    GM PG said that if Boucher is offered a job Habs won’t hold him back,
    Boucher must know that he is going to be the next head coach of the Habs
    and that it’s just a matter of time, so its up to him to leave and
    coach now with someone else or become the next habs coach in a year or
    two.

  189. TomNickle says:

    Bottom line……if you don’t perform you had better be doing the little things.  Practicing hard, making an effort to learn, keeping your head down and supporting your teammates

    That is ultimately what gets you a second, third, fourth or fifth chance at this level.

    If you play poorly on the ice and have a crappy attitude on top of it, you don’t get those chances.

  190. krob1000 says:

    yeah I don;t get that….I am 33 now and still play hockey and baseball, coach hockey, power skating soccer and basketball…when I was younger I captained competitive level sports in hockey, baseball, soccer and even my high school basketball team for a year before I had to choose between hockey and basketball…so something tells me I have a pretty good grasp on team sports….but I am also a person and an employee and I understand the relationship strain here and I am also married and understand a little bit about conflict resolution and trying to see both sides to a an issue as different points of view are usually the answer to most problems……I think that is what happened here…a lack of communication…but in this instance who should that be blames on? a 100 year old organization that is supposed to be elite or the 21 year old kid? pretty sure I know the answer to that….

  191. Fansincebirth says:

    Nothing like stirring up a shit storm in the media and dressingroom right before an important game….Sheesh!!!

    This team, if nothing else, self destructs…..

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  192. Storm Man says:

    Playing 3 or so mins a game, I dont see how he will be a hero

  193. habs03 says:

    On a positive/funny note, the guys seem to be growing goatee, well some, Metro,Gill,Plecky, anyone notice Pouliot funny mustache?

  194. pic1983 says:

    He is.  He’s been on a steady decline the last 3 years.

  195. joeybarrie says:

    The only thing we are giving there is Halak. We get back a MUCH MUCH better version of AK, and get to dump Hamr’s salary.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  196. Habsone says:

    I agree!  Vinny is washed up!

  197. TripleX says:

    The fact you would trade Halak at all, let alone an Eastern Conference team renders everything you say ridiculous.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  198. Offensive DMan says:

    haha, funny

  199. G-Man says:

    He calls himself MadMax, eh?

  200. pmaraw says:

    the ghosts arent in your living room :P

  201. Danno says:

    Not spam. Real. I won a Habs sweater there myself. Excellent blog. Worth checking out.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  202. Le Jadester says:

    What’s up with the Main thread being SK 74 out and not Game 4 – Pens vs. Habs  on gameday ?

    Habs, OLE !

  203. habsguy says:

    If he put out he’d be on the ice…Plain and simple!!!!!!!

  204. terrygain says:

    What did Joe Clark’s brother-in-law have to say for himself?

  205. KenD29 says:

    SK lacks it between the EARS! And seems to enjoy the drinks and nightlife a little to much!

    If only he could get his head on straight, maybe he and his brother Popgun 46 would make a great pair to the TEAM !

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  206. habsguy says:

    so should he just let SK do whatever SK wants to do,  even Price said something to him…Did you ever think that if JM doesn’t nip this in the butt and take control that others will think they don’t have to put out either,  do you know what happens in practice,  maybe the whole team is sick of his suck attitude,  maybe others have said something to him as well…I think it’s awesome that JM is letting them know that if you don’t want to work as hard as anyone else on the team, then you don’t play !!!!!!

  207. Mothstoflame says:

    CBC has some good game intro’s ill give them that

  208. terrygain says:

    Thank you. I’ve been watching the Habs since the early 50’s and the only other players who  have thrilled me with the kind of sweet moves like we see in that video were Beliveau and  the Flower.

    AK is still a very good, and our only power forward,  but the video confirms what I have felt for a long time. He’s not gotten completely  over that October 2008 concussion. They rushed him back  It  can often take 2 or more years to recover from a concussion. The ignoranti here ( that’s  you Ed Lopaz ) put it down to laziness.  We shall see who is right about Ak  (and SK).

    It’s bloody annoying  to see valuable team assets destroyed because of a coach who is clueless.  

  209. terrygain says:

    5 years? Are you innumerate?

  210. shootdapuck says:

    Former brother-inlaw!

    Maureen McTeer dumped him!

     

    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  211. terrygain says:

    Martin sat O’Byrne for the first 3 games of the W series and played MAB on defence rather than on  the 4th line and PP. Paired  with O’Byrne in game 6 , Markov played the best game I have seen him play. 

    Tonight, Martin has Moen playing on the 4th line behind Darche. We are being robbed by incompetent refereeing and an incompetent coach. 

  212. terrygain says:

    No chance. He wants to play here. He’ll sign an offer sheet with Toronto or Boston. He will play his heart out against Montreal. 

  213. Velavok says:

    PYATT! Woooooo

  214. showey47 says:

    Too bad JM and SK couldn’t put their differences aside and actually focus on winning some games. JM will say it’s because of sk’s attitude. Sk will say he was being treated unfairly. He will use guys like laps and lats as examples,guys who had leashes so long they could reach the ontario border,while sk’s leash wouldn’t let him look down enough to see his own nads. Too bad,sk does have above average skill,more then anyone else playing on the 3rd and 4th lines.

  215. terrygain says:

    Cherry isn’t sticking up for us. He’s just telling the truth. Martin is too clueless to complain about this wretched and biased officiating.

  216. showey47 says:

    Laps sucked balls all year,was a -14 and had less points then sergei despite playing 30 more games. He also took not 1 but 2 diving penalties in game 6 which could have cost us a game. After lats was traded,he admitted to not even trying anymore and he still got a regular shift from JM. If you were looking for my point,there it is. Being benched for being a lazy assed slacker who is a defensive liability is well deserved but when 2 other players are still being used when they are far worse is wrong. Unless there is something else that hasn’t been said,i don’t blame sergei for being pissed off. But in laps defense,since he was nailed with the diving penalties he’s played alot better and looks more like the player from last year

  217. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Hey, this is the team we have right now. Accept it, cheer for it, deal with it and most of all SHUT IT.

  218. habs001 says:

    to have beaten the caps and close games with the pens is amazing based on having one of the worst secondary scoring line ups in the nhl…pouliot now one goal in 24 games…most of the contenders have produced players that are 21-23 and can at least score 20 goals…we have developed non …our line up is full of 0 to 1 goasl scorers after 10 playoff games…

  219. terrygain says:

    He’s one of only 3 forwards who isn’t minus. The incompetent coach never gave him a chance. Plain and simple. Plus 2 in 8 minutes. Played 3 minutes since. 

  220. Say Ash says:

    Man, I wish that guy showed up every night. But the fact is, five years of good highlights fit into a five-minute reel.

  221. terrygain says:

    You trust the media? Naive.

  222. nightmare_49 says:

    …  If Guy Boucher is offered an NHL coaching job this summer, the Canadiens will not stand in his way. ….. from Elliotte Friedman + 30 Thoughts

       http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2010/05/the-habs-hockey-whisperer.html

  223. habs03 says:

    I would be very disappointed if he accept a job elsewhere, I think he is smart enough to realize that he is going to be the coach of the habs within a year or two.

  224. Eric37 says:

    Hey everyone, the hockey doc I wrote and produced on the Hamilton Tigers (formerly the Quebec Bulldogs) is airing on CBC this Saturday at noon.  We made many trips to Montreal for this film, and the Habs are referenced many times throughout.  Hope you can watch, and Go Habs Go tonight!

    More info:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/event.php?eid=302360945753&ref=mf

    E.

  225. homerbowen says:

    Look at the shots on goal. Look at the score. Look at who’s leading the series.

  226. Ton says:

    some guy on this site saying there is no one sided refing, BS. CBC saying pitt dominating, sure give them 2 free goals that changes the game. 4 clear penalities, cbc even said it. BS i dont even want to watch anymore. last one on kost was a forearm, not  a hit. 

  227. pmaraw says:

    GO HABS GO!!! BEAT THE WHINE OUT OF THE PITTSBURG CRYBABIES!!!!

  228. Danno says:

    You can win cool Hockey Canada stuff just by visiting Dennis Kane’s blog.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  229. KC64 says:

    Is there any league in pro sports with as putrid officiating as the NHL?

    Amazing! Biased?………..Oh yeah…..no question about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  230. 4loorplay says:

    clothlined him

  231. homerbowen says:

    Look at the offensive pressure the Pens can sustain…….we are doomed with our smaller team.

  232. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    cool – i’ll try and tune in!

  233. Ton says:

    4 penalities in a period creates offensive presure doesn’t it. learn the game.

  234. 24 Cups says:

    I would be very disappointed if he didn’t because that would mean he isn’t as smart as many of you believe him to be.  Boucher would be a fool to not accept a three year contract at the NHL level.  There’s plenty of time for him to coach the Habs.

    Saying Boucher shouldn’t pursue his dreams (so he can help out the Habs) is the same as saying Pleks should take a home town discount. 

  235. showey47 says:

    darche,-4 in 5 minutes of ice time. Yet some how gets into the lineup.

  236. Marty says:

    It’s not JM, it’s the team that mutinied on SK (as per team 990)

  237. John Q Public says:

    The time for politics and whose this and that is over.

    I have pulled out all the mojo I could muster for tonights triumphant Victory!

    http://lookpic.com/d2/i2/1398/tCI3UnS7.jpeg

    As you can see in the first photo , this sign was hanging as it proudly should. My inukshuk adorning the cap of the proudest hocket team ever. This should help to banish those pesky ghosts.

    http://lookpic.com/d2/i2/612/3fb6XcOB.jpeg

    In the second photo I have magnified the power of Homer to bring much success to the Habs this evening.

    May the gods be with the Habs.

    Go habs go…Go habs go…Go habs go…Go habs go…Go habs go…

    Nanananananananananana Heye hey hey good bye

  238. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    Pleks should take a hometown discount.

  239. 420cups says:

    nobody? 

  240. sidhu says:

    AK + SK for RJ Umberger + Cody Goloubef

     

  241. Chris says:

    Couldn’t agree more. Teams in the NHL are always looking for the next bright coach…the years of the coaching carousel in the NHL seem to have passed.

    If Montreal isn’t willing and/or able to give him a head coaching gig this summer and somebdoy else is, he would be a fool to pass up the opportunity.

    Don Lever was everybody’s next favourite coach here in Montreal…it was a shoo-in that he would be a head coach, if not here then somewhere else in the NHL. Now, he is not even mentioned in these discussions.

    Boucher has to capitalize while his stock is rocketing upwards.

  242. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I’m hoping (praying) for either Jacques Lemaire and/or Larry Robinson as our head coach. Wishful thinking, I know!

  243. Ton says:

    don cherry sticking up for us. he said it something wrong! your right. bull shit is what it is

  244. 24 Cups says:

    Cheeky bugger!!!

  245. linp says:

    Just watched JM’s reply to reporters regarding what he did to Sergei. Why JM wanted to single out Sergei again is beyond me. He is already benched for a long time. Why creates such a circus? It will only reduce his trading value and hurt the organization. Just turn the page!

  246. wotever says:

    SPAM.  please delete.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  247. 11habs11 says:

    This is a very good point. It sums up the whole Sergei situation; it’s obvious that he has a ton of talent, and in the future he may be good. But right now, when he’s on the ice, he’s a liability. We saw it with Andrei when he allowed Cooke to walk in and score. That one didn’t cost us, but eventually one of these guys is gonna make a lazy play that costs us. And I just can’t stand SK74 because he doens’t give a s*** about the team, which is evident when he doesn’t even cheer after a win…he’s so much like Kovalev, and exactly the kind of player that you don’t want to have in your organization. BG shipped out most of the guys who didn’t have the heart, but these two should’ve been gone as well.

  248. ManApart says:

    If the guys you mentioned above are supposed to be the backbone of your team, your team is in big trouble.They all were given quite a few opportunities to succeed and failed to varying degrees. What can one do? It’s a results oriented business. This is the NHL, not a developmental league. If you hurt the team more than you help it, you cannot play. You don’t kill them for one mistake, but by the 20th. I ubderstand JM’s point of view. You must put the guys out there who gives you your best chance at winning. The rest is semantics.

  249. 24 Cups says:

    Chuck & Chris – Take a look at Boston.  Bergeron, Lucic, Wheeler, Krejci and Kessel (Seguin/Hall).  Habs have AK46 and Pouliot.

    I think that one of the reasons that we do a poor job of developing young players is because most years just trying to qualify for the playoffs is the main priority in Montreal.  I get that but it certainly comes with a price. 

  250. krob1000 says:

    ? ???????   “I understand JM’s point of view. You must put the guys out there who gives you your best chance at winning. The rest is semantics”

    so are you really of the opinion that we are a better team without Sergei than with Sergei right now? if that is   the case then I am afraid you are very wrong…this is obviously not about on ice play and fielding the best team…..this about Sergei and the team haveing a falling out and nothing more…..as a hockey player he is our 6th best forward …with potential to be more than that……we’ll see it somewhere else to be sure.

    This team has been at its best over the last couple of seasons when Sergei was playing well….that is fact.


  251. ManApart says:

    Not sure. Sergei has more talent than some, but also can play a terrible team game, that can easily lead to goals against.  Not you or anyone else has a clue regarding the whole story of what Sergei did to merit sitting. He’s just not a team guy. There are players on the team that don’t even want him around according to Marinaro. The falling out  concerning Sergei, is the guy won’t play team hockey, period. It has nothing to do with anything else. If the guy did things even half right the past 2 years, he wouldn’t be in this position. JM is not benching him for nothing. I trust JM has very good reason for what he has chosen to do, considering the importance of the games.

  252. krob1000 says:

    I see very game and I have seen nothing of the sort…he plays a great team game evenin a role that is obviously not suited to him. The kid learned from Dale HUnter, Dale Hunter said he was more ready than Gagner or Kane…Dale Hunter is not a schmuck and understands what it takes to win….as for the otjher point…if they really thought he was that bad then why has he been around for 2 years despite everything.  The Habs rigthfully tried to repair the relationship they damaged…but it didn’t work…that may be on both parties but to me the Habs did far more wrong in this than Sergei.  I can only imagine what it must be like being Sergei…..one guy below said Sergei doesn;t communicate with his teammates…sounds like tehy aren;t exaclty being the “vets” they are supposed to be…and the most laughable one is Price calling himout..the same Carey Price who the team also refers to as “superstar”? hmmmmm

     

  253. ManApart says:

    It’s very difficult to comment accurately, because we don’t have near the whole story or all the facts. We’ve seen him do some good things, but let’s not go crazy, his stats are merely ordinary. We’ve seen him do some bad things also. We’ve heard about his prima donna attitude and his lack of commitment, especially last season. I really don’t know what to say for sure, because as I said we barely know anything about what has happened. I just trust that if the coaches gave up on him, there must be a damn good reason, like he hasn’t listened for the 20th time about how to play. I actually liked Sergei and had hopes he could be a solid contributer, but obviously that is not to be.

  254. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Update on Spacek?

  255. Kooch7800 says:

    Still out I am afraid

  256. mark_13 says:

    Good, shame but I’ll be glad when he’s gone, total drama queen, just like Grabovski, not sure why they fought now, they clearly have a lot in common!

  257. lavie says:

    As long as JM is doing better than expected in playoff, we would see JM to stay with Habs. So, SK is gone for sure. Good luck SK74!

  258. deggy24 says:

    JM has done d**k except for ride a hot goalie. Playing mediocre players with a defensive strategy is not as good as playing talented players in a defensive strategy.

    JM should be done after this season unless you want to see a parade of mediocre players playing a ‘rope a dope’ style of hockey; and goalies still facing 40+ shots a game.

    SK proved at the Olympics and when given the chance that he is one of the best 3rd/4th line guys in the league.

  259. Fansincebirth says:

    Way to go JM. Toss out the talent ’cause you’re pissed at him and can’t get over it to save your team….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  260. alestar says:

    Sergei played himself off the team, and with his attitude he’ll be lucky to bounce around to another team or two until he’s out of the league.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  261. SPATS says:

    Is anybody really surprised here? It’s not the lack of talent or even the lack of effort on some nights. It’s more likely how he’s reacted and very likely has a high opinion of himself and little self awareness. He’s another entitled type and his mates think very little of him as a result. He probably whines and talks poorly about others behind their backs. He’s got some growing up to do.

  262. mark_13 says:

    You are kidding right, the pens would basically have a 5 on 3 each time they’re out there!

  263. habs03 says:

    Look guys, I know we could use S.Kost and A.kost skill, but look at the msg it sends guys in the room, the guy gets benched, then decides not to work hard and leaves practice early and gets rewarded by being put back in the lineup.

  264. Kooch7800 says:

    Bang on

  265. TripleX says:

    And what kind of message is JM sending to the team when he dresses a warrior like Darche then embarrasses him in front of the whole country?  If I was Darche I would rather sit in the press box than a public pie in the face.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  266. HabFanSince72 says:

    You’re right.

    The magician from Belarus is being benched because he’s not French.

    And Martin only got the job because he’s French.

    Yada yada.

     

     

  267. le_vrai_jacques says:

    Then, you’d be the first to demand a trade. In all caps.

  268. 746ASK says:

    SCORERS

    First period

    12:03 MTL Ryan O’byrne, 1 (Dominic Moore, 16 Sergei Kostitsyn, 11) (BUF: 55 10 30 29 34 57 MTL: 79 42 32 20 41 74)

    Second period

    02:41 MTL Tom Pyatt, 2 (Maxim Lapierre, 7 Hal Gill, 9) (BUF: 10 22 30 28 42 57 MTL: 75 52 26 40 41 94)

    Third period

    06:37 MTL Sergei Kostitsyn, 7 (Travis Moen, 11 Dominic Moore, 17) (BUF: 55 5 30 4 29 63 MTL: 44 42 32 47 41 74)

    I WAS AT THE GAME! And I signed up for the Canadiens fan mail so every time there’s a goal I see it and SERGEI KOSTITSYN’S NAME WAS ON THERE!

    ι fσυиd мysєℓf ιn ωσиdєяℓαиd…

  269. Kingofswing74 says:

    cough MAB cough. but MAB can explain in english “im sorry coach next time i dont fumble puck and cause turnover”. Where as sergei is russian, a drug dealer, and more talented, so lets scratch him.

  270. 746ASK says:

    First of all, you are very uninformed because I was at the Bell Centre the 4th to last game at 7:00 on April 3rd and Sergei Kostitsyn scored one goal (the winning one) and he had an assist. So before you start throwing out random numbers, check. And second, Gomez, Gionta, Camalleri, Andrei Markov, and every other good player in the NHL ALL MAKE MISTAKES! We’re human and they are too. If they’re weren’t any mistakes made by any players then there would never be any goals.

    ι fσυиd мysєℓf ιn ωσиdєяℓαиd…

  271. pic1983 says:

    and your logic is what will keep the habs in this cycle of eternal mediocrity.  You learn by making mistakes, and if we dont let the kids make mistakes and teach them from those mistakes, than they will never learn. 

  272. Psycho29 says:

    You might want to verify yourself…..no points in the last 5 regular season games.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471859

  273. Kingofswing74 says:

    YOU might want to verify yourself, he scored against buffalo and got an assist.

  274. pic1983 says:

    you might want to look again because i didnt realize we played our last 4 regular season games against the capitals, and I could have sworn i watched all 82 regular season games this year! Your link is showing his last 5 games played overall!

     

    Dude, do yourself a favor and double check your info before calling someone out.

  275. Fansincebirth says:

    Just my opinion but I tend to think that SK has been mis-managed and is paying the consequences for it

    Price will probably find himself in the same boat at the end of the season.

    Another big shake up in the team coming in the summer, I fear.

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  276. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2. we play with energy, we play with Subban in Markov’s place (for now) – Pk could have been with us since the Olympics, but nevermind that.

    dude its Andrei that has epilepsy, not sergei.

  277. Offensive DMan says:

    What I am really liking about this team is that we are seeing some things, call them revelations, things we have to be delighted about:

    • the emergence of Halak as a bone fide, #1 NHL goaltender capable of single-handedly stealing games
    • Gill as being quite valuable used the right way (haven’t seen much of the wrong way lately, was he always this good? Leading the way many times)
    • Gorges just continues to get better and better, and is finally getting the respect he has earned
    • Gionta the giant, what heart
    • Cammelleri, one of the most dangerous forwards around right now
    • Subban ready now
    • Pyatt proving he has worth, and getting better
    • there are others, but let’s call them all ‘Team Players’, most are showing this night in, night out

    Who would have thought this a few weeks ago?

  278. Danno says:

    I think you need to add Dominic Moore to the list. He just never lets up and has been a real pleasant surprise. Got the game winner too in game seven against the Caps.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  279. derfab says:

    Lot’s of heart but they don’t intimidate anyone and hockey is a game based on speed, discipline  and fear.

  280. Kooch7800 says:

    The one thing i keep seeing on these boards that is really starting to bug me is that how Halak is now a bonified #1.  Did we all forget about Jose theodore?  He stole the series against Boston in 04 and was a bust after that.  He is having a great playoffs and played majority of the games well this season.

    If we all remember how close we came to not making the playoffs barely getting one point in the last 4 games.

     

  281. TripleX says:

    The players you mentioned are giving 100% every shift every night.  If you think they can come close to duplicating this performance during an 82 game regular season, then please give me some of what you are smoking dude.

    The so called “SYSTEM” which calls for maximum effort every shift and a goalie playing other worldly is unsustainable over any length of time.  What you are witnessing now is the players becoming overcome with fatigue.  A valiant effort but doomed to failure.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  282. 746ASK says:

    At least Carbonneau knew what the hell to do with the two brothers. Considering the fact that he used to put them with Robert Lang, and he knew that putting them TOGETHER was the best thing ever. Just like the Sedin twins. But, I’m happy if they leave, for them, because no one can make a good career in this freaking crazy place where the journalists only look for things to bring the players down and twist the stories around. Journalists are getting more and more like paparazzis.

    ι fσυиd мysєℓf ιn ωσиdєяℓαиd…

  283. 746ASK says:

    At least Carbonneau knew what the hell to do with the two brothers. Considering the fact that he used to put them with Robert Lang, and he knew that putting them TOGETHER was the best thing ever. Just like the Sedin twins. But, I’m happy if they leave, for them, because no one can make a good career in this freaking crazy place where the journalists only look for things to bring the players down and twist the stories around. Journalists are getting more and more like paparazzis.

    ι fσυиd мysєℓf ιn ωσиdєяℓαиd…

  284. Kingofswing74 says:

    i think we can get full value for sergei if we can just show confidence in him. we havent shown confidence in him since that ridiculous drug lord story last year

  285. habs03 says:

    I think he is done with our team and so is his bro, I wish it wasn’t the case but it’s not like its just JM, he had an issue with Carbo last year too, so what you want about JM but Carbo was one of the hardest workers when he played and he had a huge issue with SK commitment.

  286. SPATS says:

    If we can re sign Halak and Pleks, I say move AK, SK and Price to Atlanta for Evander Kane. It would take some of the sting out of losing Markov and that’s worth something. However, I doubt we’ll be able to re sign Halak, in which case, kudos to Price for taking the opposite direction from the one SK took. Price is proving he’s maturing. Well done Carey!

  287. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2. we play with energy, we play with Subban in Markov’s place (for now) – Pk could have been with us since the Olympics, but nevermind that.

    Kane is a forward and Markov is top D; how does acquiring Kane (who is untouchable I would think) help take the sting out of losing Markov?

    I don’t get it?

  288. HabFanSince72 says:

    WE WANT THE MINSK MAGICIAN!

    JM OUT! BOUCHER IN!

     

     

     

  289. punkster says:

    Fear? Fear??? When did fear become a criteria for a hockey team? Armies yes. Bullies sure. And I also have to ask about intimidation. Are you suggesting we have to become more like the Leafs and Flyers? Just wondering.

  290. MadMax says:

    to tampa bay

    kos bro’s:

    hamrlik

    halak

    to mtl

    lecavalier…

     

     

  291. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lecavalier contract is one of the 5 worst in the NHL

    10 years at 7.7 million a year is a joke. He’s not getting better at this stage, injuries have weakened him considerably, we’re not getting 40 or 50 goal seasons out of him.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  292. Storm Man says:

    so Vinny could be run out of town when he only gets 25 goals…..

  293. Max_a_million says:

    Please no underperforming french stars that take up 1/5 of your salary cap for the next decade. 

    Our next French star is getting all smart at Harvard. 

  294. Kooch7800 says:

    Although i do think TB would love to get rid of Vinny as he is on the decline and his contract is INSANE he is not the answer to our problems.  We need a goal scorer and another D man.

  295. matraque says:

    It’s about time… SK is a tool.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  296. habs03 says:

    I don’t think it was an embarrassment, Darche knows his role, he know he is not a guy that is going to be many minutes, and in a close game JM wanted to use certain guys, no problem with that imo.

  297. TripleX says:

    WHAT??   JM knew from the opening face off that it would be a close game??   Darche did not step on the ice dude!  WTF??

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  298. habs03 says:

    I just don’t see how you can reward S.Kost by puttin him in the lineup after all the stuff he has done.

  299. MadMax says:

    nobody wants 40-50 out of him.

    I expect 30 and 90 pts.

  300. SeriousFan09 says:

    That isn’t happening either and we won’t get that when he’s 35 let alone 38 when the team would still be on the hook for another 3 years at 7.7 million a year!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  301. Max_a_million says:

    Dominic Moore turned out to be a great trade didn’t it.  Really solidified us at center, what a great tough nose worker. 

  302. salshabs says:

    The Kost Bros are a bit of a disappointment.  AK especially, has so much potential.  Size, speed, great shot, just doesn’t show up enough.  When he does, he can make a difference…too bad.  Obviously, JM has it in big time, for SK…if he would only play them together, could be just what the Doc ordered.

    Still so far, JM, K. Muller, and P. Pearns have definitely got the boys playing to their potential.  Gainey looks like he knew what he was doing, no matter what happens now.  Let’s not forget, the Habs spent most of the regular season with key players lost to injury. I know all teams deal with injuries, BUT, it appears only the Habs lose their TOP guys at crucial times…Markov, AGAIN, and Spacek that really hurts.  Good thing Subban looks capable, now, imagine Subban, Markov, and Spacek still in the lineup. Big difference! Meanwhile, Stall goes under the GD knife, and you watch, he’ll play tonight…no justice.

    Plus, the annoying and persitent issue, esp. when it comes to Quebec born goalies, e.g., Mark Andre Fluery, returning to spoil the party.  Why do these guys play better in Montreal than they do at their own building? If you make the game tonight, two things, call out Cindy the whiner, and don’t let Fleury get comfortable…go Habs!

  303. MadMax says:

    why…is gomez being run out of town with his contract? no, he’s playing hard, and respect is gained.

  304. Storm Man says:

    You would be the first in line booooing Vinny….

  305. RetroMikey says:

    I wish everyone would have listened to me when I posted on this site about Sergei over the past 3 years.

    O V E R R A T E D idiot who needs anger management lessons as well.

    Good luck in Siberia, or whether they want you to play, you will never play in the NHL especially with your attitiude,

    Brother Andre will be next if he does not shape up.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  306. Max_a_million says:

     

    OK so if we take three underperforming guys with bad attitudes and throw in a draft pick we get back a superstar?!?  Unless Rejean Houle gets a GM job, I don’t see this happening. 

     

  307. MadMax says:

    who’s underperforming? Halak?… kos bros? with 1 that was hurt, and the other who hasn’t played all year?

    nah dude, trade makes sense for everyone. Tampa gets a goalie and a good return for a player they need to get rid of. Mtl get their big center and cap space to pay for him. Even Hammer has already played in Tampa…

    Maybe, even we sign St louis also, so we have that duo to go with gomez, gionta?

  308. homerbowen says:

    Clearly we lack the ability to sustain offensive pressure in any of our opponents end. This is not new it’s been going on all year. Our top forwards, at least those with the ability to score, are far too small for the NHL playoff run. Not individually but collectively just too many skilled, but very small forwards on one team and they get worn down as the games wore on.

    Yes, we had moments, particularily with the Caps where there were “rays of hope”, but without a doubt it was Halak who made that possible. This applied to the regular season where Halak’s name popped up whenever we had a little success.

    The fact is we are too small at the skilled forward position and we should move some of these assets over the summer.

    In addition, leadership at the coaching level should be addressed. Personally, I don’t think JM has what it takes to be a successful NHL coach. Boucher, Muller or even Patrick Roy would be a significant improvement. In any event Go Habs Go.

  309. G-Man says:

    Patrick Roy as coach? Muahahahahhaahh!

     

  310. longtimehabsfan says:

    What a waste of talent.

  311. Kingofswing74 says:

    this sergei thing makes me sick to my stomach. it just shows how badly this team is being run. if i a guy like latendresse leaves here looking like he has a bad attitude, when hes just a nice kid with alot of skill, how is sergei supposed to fare. our coaching staff and management have no idea how to show young players that they believe in them and bring out their skills. youngsters are not always the best at playing in a system, but let them do what they know how to do ofor a while, show them some appreciation, and then work with them to make them understand. sergei worked his ass off all year to get back in the line up, and ended up scoring points like crazy at the end of the season. then 3 mistakes later he in the pressbox for five games. JM is a good coach, but probably a horrible father. the canadiens development is a mess.

  312. habs03 says:

    Sergei did not work his a** off, even when he went down to the AHL he left the team and Gainey had to have a talk with him so that he would go back. Everyone is blaming JM for S.Kost, but when someone like Bob McKenzie writes that the players on the team don’t want Sergei in the lineup it has to be more than just JM ruining Sergei. As for the Latendresse trade, it was a simple hockey trade, I think Pouliot fits the system more because he can skate while Latendresse isn’t that good of a skater. People talk about how Management has done a bad job with young guys which they have with Price, Lats, both brought up too early, but they recongized that mistake and let P.K spend all year in the AHL, they also sent Max Pac down during the year so help him work on his game more.

  313. Psycho29 says:

    Sergei had what 18 points all season, and the last 5 games of the season had zero points.

    In the playoffs he has zero points and 5 shots in 4 games.

    Sergei hurts this team with his attitude and his play more than he helps. Good riddance.

    This is playoff time, 3 mistakes are 3 too many…..

    And if Andrei can’t concentrate on his game because of his brother, then he can go also.

     

     

  314. Gr8stFranchizEvr says:

    i think there’s more to this than meets the eye.  we don’t see the interaction between SK and the other players and JM.  We don’t see if there’s a rift or bad attitude spewing from Sergei towards the management or even teammates (and I don’t mean as a result of being benched – prior to…).  There’s so much we really don’t know, but JM and his staff have decided to cut the kid out of the picture.  I’m sure they have their reasons and not just, “I don’t like the Sergei”.  We presume we know the truth about these stories, but we only see what’s made public and we try to interpret it or give it meaning.

  315. 24 Cups says:

    This organization certainly has some major issues when it comes to developing young players.  We used to wait until a player was 24 or 25 before we shipped him out, now we are giving up on 22 year olds.  We build up guys like Lats, Price, and Sergei before they are ready to make the jump and then crap all over them when it all goes to their heads.

    I’m not a big fan of the K brothers, but we will be facing a lack of young talent up front next year if they both decide to leave this summer.

  316. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    You’re right Steve… how many guys have been sent packing? Perezhogin, Chipchura, Latendresse, Sk is on his way out, Price has been screwed up, Laps stumbled, Pacioretty was brought up too soon… the list goes on and on.

    You build a team in the NHL these daysinternally. You draft and develop. We draft and trade or draft and screw up

    This sucks. I don’t care if you love or hate Sergei. We’re bleeding away our young talent.

  317. Chuck says:

    What frustrates me is that for a team to be successful in the the salary cap era, you pretty much need to have young (and thus fairly inexpensive) talent contributing to the cause. Gone are the days when a team could simpley buy their way out af a problem.

    The Kostitsyns, Price, O’Byrne, Lapierre… these are the kinds of players who you want to be the backbone of your team as older players move on. But this year, the coach seems to have put young player development on the back burner. None of our young players have significantly developed from this time last year, and none of them have (willingly) been put in positions to succeed.

     

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  318. punkster says:

    With all due respect Steve, and I do respect your opinion, I don’t think this issue is worth all the bytes, print and air time being wasted. Neither brother has shown anything special except occasional flashes followed by long periods of floating and disinterest. They’re both in the F&D stage these days so they serve no purpose to the oganization. AK may have a greater upside today, if he decides to play hard, if the spirit moves him, if the planets are aligned but he hasn’t delivered on his high draft selection of 2003. SK may have the greater upside tomorrow if he matures, if he follows coaching guidance or orders, if he puts in the effort. Too many ifs. Dump them both. This ain’t no kindergarden.

  319. nick says:

    Well – when he’s gone, ends up on another team and start playing well…

    MTL fans will ask the age old question… Why couldn’t we get him to do that here? 

    Aw well… MTL has TONS of young talent coming up through Hamilton right… Riiiiiiight.

  320. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    JM won’t play SK ever again. Even with a dozen injuries. Darche works his butt off, rides the bike during the intermission and gets rewarded… with 00:00 of ice-time. Everyone is telling Sergei to “try harder”. Why? Look how JM treats a hardworking, good teammate who never complains.

  321. cautiousoptimist says:

    Exactly right.  The message isn’t “work your butt off and earn your ice time,” it’s “be one of our top nine forwards or lose your spot.”

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  322. Norcal Habsfan says:

    Good call. He’s protecting the room. He must have been a real cancer in there. Props to Price for calling him out and props to Price for displaying how a professional handles waiting for his chance to play with hard work and team spirit.

  323. Velavok says:

    Hear, Hear

  324. ManApart says:

    Props to Markov for teaching Price the same lesson a few months ago.

  325. terrygain says:

    Moen at plus 1 is the only Hab forward in this year’s playoffs who is plus.  Moore, and one other forward are both plus/minus 0. Everyone else is minus.  

    The consensus here is that “the other forward” sucks. The consensus here sucks.  

     

  326. vic says:

    How much has JM developed players? SK played well for Hamilton.Hes a kid  in another country and has trouble with the language did management help.The kid can play hockey and under the right coach will be very good.Same as pouliot playing well and JM puts on forth line in pratice.You watch Suban when JM tries to change his style.Didnt see too many puck carrying up the ice last game.

    We will not go anyware with JM.get used to it played last game more in a trap than offence

  327. HabFanSince72 says:

    Foreign language?

    He played his junior hockey in the OHL.

     

  328. cautiousoptimist says:

    There’s no excuse for the elder Kostitsyn’s spotty play in the playoffs, and I’m not trying to find one.  But I gotta say, if my brother and I had grown up together, worked our way from the Belarussian leagues into the NHL together, and were now playing on the same team together, and I felt that our coach was singling him out for unfair, unreasonable treatment, I’d bloody well let the coach know it, damn the consequences.  Sure I’ve got a job to do, and sure I’m well paid to be a loyal soldier.  But family comes first, and I’d stick way the hell up for my little brother if I didn’t think he deserved the treatment he was getting.  I think that might stick in the back of my mind during the games, too, and at any rate, nobody works as well for a boss they think is a jerk as they do for one they respect and admire.  It’s silly to expect AK46 to be unaffected on the ice by his brother’s situation.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  329. habs03 says:

    Well if Andrei worked hard, and then went to the coach and said, listen I know what my brother can do just give him one more shot, thats one thing, but when he isn’t work hard what do expect to do. during game 1 A.Kost was weak in dumping the puck, one lead to goal and one lead to a too many men on the ice penalty, last game when Andrei dumped the puck you could see that he was hard on the puck and got it all the way down, its as if you need to bench this guys to make them understand.

  330. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    great point. people jump on AK saying he should play awesome regardless of what’s going on with sergei… mainly because he’s getting the opportunity to play for our beloved Habs… bull. i’d question AK’s character if he didn’t care about his bro.

  331. HabFanSince72 says:

    Sergei summary:

    1. He’s in the dog house because he’s not French. (Lapierre and Lats were both benched this year.)

    2. He could provide some offence (24 goals in 155 NHL games).

    3. Give him a chance (he dressed for 4 games against the Caps – 2 key goals were scored by the opposition as a direct result of his lack of involvement).

    4. He was great in the OHL (not as good as Corey Locke).

    5. He was great in the AHL (see #4)

    6. If he doesn’t play Andrei will be depressed.

    7. JM is a moron.

    8. Bob Gainey is a moron.

    9. Guy Boucher will be a moron one day but right  now he is the saviour.

  332. avatar_58 says:

    No offence but what is your #4 and #5 point? So we should ignore all OHL and AHL stars? How on earth do you judge a player in the minors then? Magic?

  333. Jeff says:

    Excellent post!

    Is there a vote on the BEST post of this season?

  334. TripleX says:

     

    Jose Theodore is a past winner of the Hart and Vezina trophies.  I think that qualifies a goalie as a #1.  What is your point?

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  335. Hammer says:

    If SK is as great and getting a bum rap as many think, how come sooo many teams passed on him coming out of Junior? Did they spot something early with him??? 

  336. cautiousoptimist says:

    Same reason Halak went 271st overall, methinks — he just wasn’t on their radar.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  337. habs03 says:

    S.Kost has skill, he has more passion than his brother, I think he wants to play in the NHL rather then the KHL, he just needs to mature, but like full mature.

  338. Mats Naslund says:

    The Habs drafted him because his older brother showed so much promise. It wasn’t until the year after they drafted him that he put up those huge numbers with Kane and Gagner. People passed on him because he was an unknown commodity. It had nothing to do with personality.

  339. light_n_tasty says:

    Other teams passed on him because he was having problems with epileptic seizures.  Before the draft, the Habs medical staff took a look at him and decided that he would be OK with proper medical treatment, which he wasn’t receiving in Belarus.

  340. Hammer says:

    Maybe,

     

    But he was playing on the London Knights, where scouts scour the halls for prospects?

  341. HabFab says:

    Montreal drafted him out of Belorussia and brought him over to play in the CHL. London drafted his rights.

  342. SPATS says:

    We get the guy who knocked out the guy who knocked out Marky ;o)

  343. krob1000 says:

    IT’s kiss JM’s ass and play like a New Jersey Panther or else …see ya? As much as it pains me I can live with that…..as long as we don;t piss away our assets that is…which is what is happening.  If that was the plan then why did we let their trade value diminish and not address the problem sooner? I can live without the Kostitsyns…it will bother me but I will be a long time getting over losing them for nothing or next to it after some of the moves this team has made.  The treatment has been ridiculous and is setting a bad example for across the pond talent to be sure….we already have issues attracting guys so either we head in one direction or we don’t but right now we are still in a state of confusion being masked by some unexpected success in the first round…and we may not be done……but organizationally we are still a mess…..

  344. terrygain says:

    AK worked very hard in the last game and tied for the team lead in hits and takeaways. You’re not very observant.

  345. habs03 says:

    If you read the last few lines, I was saying how he was harder on the puck, hence he was better last game because of the benching.

  346. habs03 says:

    “last game when Andrei dumped the puck you could see that he was hard on
    the puck and got it all the way down” read b4 you call me “not very observant”.

  347. krob1000 says:

    especially when the way littler bro was the ONLY guy on the team to try abnd defend you after a blatant cheap shot…..I wonder where my loyalties would be? hmmm…..

  348. StevieRay says:

    That worked well …

  349. ManApart says:

    At least he’s passing on the message.

  350. 24 Cups says:

    Dave – THere is no way the organization is going to go against Martin in his first year (out of four) so it certainly appears that the brothers may be on the way out of town.  I wouldn’t expect a fair return on the trade market so it will be another loss on the talent ledger.

    For me, the point really isn’t about Sergei, or Lats, or Price.  My worry is that there seems to be a real pattern here.  Either we are not developing out players properly or we are drafting the wrong ones.  It really doesn’t matter which point of view you take.  The organization still suffers.

    Halak got us into the playoffs and a spirited effort has allowed us to put on a respectful post-season showing.  The short term results are covering our some structural flaws.   How long can we keep losing our younger players?  How do you fill those gaps?  Who’s next?  After seven years, how many young building blocks (developmental wise) does Gainey have in place?

  351. Offensive DMan says:

    Never said anything about an 82 game schedule, did I – you did….

  352. Jeff says:

    Okay boys, sign the Sisters long term & the Princess as well.

    The Habs won’t be backing into the playoffs but dwelling in the lowest part of the NHL like the Leafs.

    WTF is going on with all our Candian teams? 


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