Update from Team M*A*S*H


The duration of Chris Campoli’s absence will be measured in MONTHS, not weeks.
And Blair Betts won’t play in Winnipeg on Sunday. He has a lower-back problem (those get better right away, right?) and is listed as day-to-day.

The Canadiens had better hope Alexei Emelin can play in the NHL.

Campoli was hurt after jamming a skate in the ice during the opener.

Poll question:

Which job is more dangerous, defusing bombs in Afghanistan or playing defence for the Montreal Canadiens at the ACC?

• Tweet from Skillsie75 (Hal Gill): Pont Champlain workers, take your time. Enjoy the coffee break. Have a smoke. #sarcasm

• Carey Price and Mike Cammalleri were on the ice for Saturday morning practice before the team boards their 2 p.m. charter to Winnipeg.

And Erik Cole was on the first-wave of the power play.

Hickey urges calm

Red sees Markov as key

• Dave Stubbs: Cole underused vs. Leafs

• Boone: Go Jets, go!

Defencemen dropping like … Canadiens

Stu Cowan on long Cup drought

Roy MacGregor on the Jets

The CBC and Cherry

Ex-enforcers punch back at Cherry


  1. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    So I watched the Leafs last night, and although they won, they were awful. The Sens were worse.
    They won because their go to guys scored. They don’t have as many as the Habs do, but the ones they have had the ability to finish. Reimer folded, but their scorers scored.
    The habs have a solid six forwards who can and will score, eventually.
    Let’s hope they can thrash Winnie the Pooh tonight, and get it going.

  2. habs001 says:

    Looks like the leafs wanted to get off to a good start as their sched is really set up for that…they had the opener with us..played ottawa, who played the night before and now are off till next sat and play 3 at home vs west teams that are on a road trip…while the sched is influenced by many things i just have a feeling that burke fights harder for sched benefits than gauthier does……

    • Hab-Q says:

      This is deja vu all -over again.
      Laffs started out last year beating Habs and Sens first 2 games, then won two more in a row only to revert to their usual form.

      I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.

      ~Rodney Dangerfield

    • Matt. says:

      the Leafs beat the Habs fair and square, that’s all there is to it.

      The schedule makers are not at fault for the Canadiens laying an egg

  3. geo_habsgo says:

    Trying to divorce myself from re-hashing the Price-Halak debate, but has anyone checked out the play of Halak lately? Rough pre-season and a nasty start to the regular season. What I find strange though about his struggles is how judging by the comments by the coaching staff, it seems as though he’s on a really short leash this season. I find it a bit odd that they’d be questioning his work ethic considering how hard he worked when he played here.

    Considering how mediocre he’s played since leaving it leads me to believe that he’s just one of those people who need constant pressure to perform which he had here but certainly not where he’s playing now with such a small fanbase. He’s on my fantasy team so thats why I’m a little disappointed this morning lol he kept me from winning the week!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Only saw highlights but his save % was not good last night. The storywasconditioning was problem last year, his first full season as a #1.

      • geo_habsgo says:

        Oh really? I didn’t know that. I guess he wasn’t conditioned well enough to cope with the advanced workload.

        Its crazy to see what the effects of a weak d can have on a goalie. Playing in Martins insolated system, average goalies like Auld and dare I say Budaj look a lot stronger. Gives true number ones like Price and Halak a giant boost when they know five other guys are at least trying to stop the puck from reaching them.

    • Chris says:

      A kid that is known for working his tail off in junior, the AHL and the NHL doesn’t suddenly stop. People are looking too hard here.

      He went from Montreal, a defensive team behind which all its goalies (Price, Halak, Auld) have posted very good numbers, to St. Louis, who feature a very young, inexperienced defence corps and who have thrown their goalies under the bus the past couple of years. If you think Halak struggled, check out the numbers of super-backup Ty Conklin. In the three seasons before, Conklin has been in the 2.50 GAA and 0.910-0.920 SV% range. Last season, he ballooned to 3.22 GAA and 0.881 SV%. So while Halak was not good last season, he was still almost a goal better than his back up (2.48 GAA) and 3% better in save percentage (0.910) than Conklin. Both of those represent some of the largest differentials between a starter and their back-up in the NHL last season.

      As for last night’s game, if you watch the highlights the goals came:
      1) Shea Weber took a massive point shot, which Halak thought he had in his pads…when he moved, it squirted out to a Predator, much like the SH goal against Price the other night.
      2) Puck caromed in off a defenceman…Halak had no chance.
      3) Halak probably should have had this one, but he was screened by two of his own men on Klein’s shot from the face-off dot.

      Save % in single games is not a very reliable stat…Reimer’s was 1.000 after his first game. 🙂 It’s only useful when you take it over a large number of games.

      • geo_habsgo says:

        Great points Chris. I was by no means meaning to knock Halak. He is a skilled player. I was just commenting on what seems to be a lot of impatience and general annoyance coming from the St. Louis coaching staff. You made a good point about Halak and Conklin I hadn’t even considered that before. Its all about your perspective I guess.

  4. HabinBurlington says:

    So the CBC throws out a statement that CHerrys views don’t reflect those of the CBC. And with that Pontius Pilate washed his hands.

    Such joke, the hypocrites run cbcsports, saying they are all about safety while trumpeting Cherry week in week out.

    • The Cat says:

      One thing that bugs me about Cherry is that he really likens himself as a tough guy, like hes in the same ‘fight club’ or whatever but when he played he wasnt a softie but nowhere the tough guy he thinks he is.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  5. SeriousFan09 says:

    More Prospect Stuff:

    Not quite as explosive as Bournival’s 10G in his first 5 games, Brendan Gallagher now has 4G in his first 3 games of the season with the Vancouver Giants.

    Danny Kristo and Mark MacMillan of North Dakota each had an assist in a 6-2 loss to Boston College.

  6. habitants12 says:

    I am not a fan of JM, and he lacks in seeing what is wrong on the ice and does not have enough sense to correct it. Obviously Ottawa’s coach knew what areas to correct and change in order to try to get themselves back into that hockey game. Valiant effort by Ottawa to know what to do better. Montreal’s coaching staff on the other hand…. “duh…. I don’t know what to do!”

  7. thrashhab says:

    yemelin, or emelin, however its spelled, because ive seen both spellings many times, definately has the tools to be a force on D, but, the question is, is he capable of using those tools now?!…campoli going down is disastrous, seeins were once again without markov to start a season and (y)emelin is gonna have to step up…in all honesty, id rather have him in our lineup than diaz!…anyway, we will win tomorrow in winnipeg!

    all hail st.patrick

  8. kungpowchicken says:

    Kunpowchicken loves the Habs but is sensing a troubling trend that started in Toronto the other night that should result in:

    1. A defensively challenged team – leading to more GAA and high frustration to Carey Price.
    2. Lack of team cohesion not being assisted by the lack of leadership present which will lead to:
    3. The firing of Jackie boy by Remberance Day as the team will crumble that fast my friends….but…good news…..
    4. A new saviour will present himself thereby stunning all fans and providing stabilty and glee to all hab fans by mid January.
    It will be a saga my friends. The drama and stakes will be high, but thankfully it is a long season and we will stick by our habs thru this thick and thin period…have faith and trust and in Molson we trust!

  9. C_exacte says:

    did john madden retire? the center not the old foozball coach. he put up decent numbers last year, some more depth for “team m.a.s.h.”. my biggest wish would be that gomez could use his so called recruiting skills to bring scotty niedermayer out of retirement. oh well, happy thanksgiving! & let’s hope the coach gives more ice time to our cranberries & gravy instead of to our mash potatoes & stuffing.

  10. samTHEman says:

    Oh and it appears JM and the Habs aren’t the only ones to blow leads in the 3rd period. Sens-Leafs and now Flames-Pens. Fleury mishandled the puck behind a net (essentially pulling a Price) and got scored on seconds later. Looked like he wanted to cry. And he should. His name means flower in English FFS…

    It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

    • Man Dingga says:

      Are you for real? Price is one of the best puck handlers in the league as far as goalies go. He’s made a couple mistakes here and there but not nearly as bad as your implying. We were lucky to lose by two goals to the Leafs the other night. We may of outshot them but they had much better scoring opportunities. They actually get people to the net, we on the other hand continue to shoot from the outside. Isn’t it funny how the Sens tonight were able to score five goals in the final period against Reimer as they started to go to the net more.

      • samTHEman says:

        “Price is one of the best puck handlers in the league as far as goalies go.”

        Where exactly did I say otherwise?

        “He’s made a couple mistakes here and there but not nearly as bad as your implying.”

        Where did I imply anything MORE?

        All I said was that Fleury coughed up the puck on an attempt to control it behind his net. I compared his miss-handle to that of Price’s which we see sometimes in order to give you a descriptive image.

        How did you get that I was implying “Price is bad” from that?
        It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

        • Man Dingga says:

          My bad then…when I read “pulling a Price” I thought you were implying Price was bad at handling the puck.

        • Chris says:

          Price loves to handle the puck, but watch the number of times he fires it around the boards to opposing players.

          Because he is good at shooting the puck does not equate to being good at playing the puck. Brodeur rarely made mistakes when he came out to play it.

          I compare Price more to a guy like Turco, who is sometimes far too daring for his own good when he gets out to handle the puck.

    • Chorske says:

      “essentially pulling a Price” by mishandling the puck, leading to a goal? Pff. Habs fans can be such shite. Kid stands on his head most nights, and YOU insist on the few times he bobbled it?

      And, just for the record, FFS- Fleury is an old French name. Superficially it refers to flowers (fleuri) but the actual meaning of the name is “storied”, or “notable” (i.e. crowned in flowers), or “accomplished”. IF you’re going to make fun of names, poke fun at really funny ones, like Clitsome. Making fun of Fleury makes you sound like the bully kid from Simpsons, hah hah.

  11. caladin says:

    Interesting post, but I have sone quibbles.
    Campoli’s cap hit is < 2mil. If we're lucky enough that everyone's healthy and performing his cap hit would not stop them from scratching him. Spacek I hope it wouldn't but who knows.
    Oh and as for why might trade weber and not Spacek…. Well for one thing weber couldn't make the team with Markov and Campoli out… And for the other who would want Spacek?

    • samTHEman says:

      Yeah I sorta overlooked that Spacek is pretty much untradeable with 1 year left at 36 years old and his cap hit, even if someone wanted him which is a longshot.

      It’s not that Weber couldn’t make the team. Martin ruled him out from the start. He played 40ish games last year and potted a few goals in the playoffs, should have an edge over Diaz who fit the same mold (and Emelin, but he fills in a need for toughness and size so it’s different).

      Hopefully Markov’s soon return will motivate Emelin as they can communicate in russian. Maybe we’ll see Marky take him under his wing like Gill did with PK.

      It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

    • j0nHABS says:

      he and gorges were the only two D that didn’t make any mistakes in there own end!

  12. samTHEman says:

    PG and Martin will have decisions to make on D when Markov comes back sometime in late October or November. Who sits on D? Emelin? Diaz? The better of the 2 most likely sticks, but then you have Campoli coming back in December and there’s just no way he’s our 7th d-man at that cap hit. That leaves 2 D out (Emelin-Diaz). We know Emelin will go to KHL if he’s sent down so that isn’t an option sadly, but that depends, maybe he won’t need to be sent down if he adjusts well. I could see Diaz being sent down even though I’m not a big fan of Spacek. Don’t see management getting rid of a veteran before the playoffs but that would relieve 3.83M of cap space at the deadline to tweak the bottom 9 if he were traded. I don’t want to make early judgements as it appears he’s in shape but I can’t imagine he’ll be any better.

    And you have Eller and Betts coming back into the lineup next week, bumping Darche to the 4th and Weber to the press box…no room for him upfront or on D. Maybe he’ll be Budaj’s back-up but I won’t credit Martin with having come up with that bright idea just yet. =)

    Soo…all this to say that I’m inclined to believe a trade is in the works (or will be) for Weber. I don’t see why management have given up on him so fast. Spacek is worse and is playing the last year on his contract. Makes absolute no sense to keep an aging vet close to retirement and ship out a young Weber with potential. If his D needs that much refinement, then he can work on it. It’s not like Spacek is so defensively sound either.

    It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

    • mike3131 says:

      Agree 100%. What’s the point of dressing Weber if he doesn’t even man the point on the PP? I’d rather see a guy like Mike Blunder as a 4th line RW (for now).
      I think the odd man out should be Spacek. I see no room for him because we already have a small d-corps and Spacek falls whenever someone touches him. I’m also very disappointed in the fact that we dressed Diaz over Emelin. I really think we should be patient with Emelin and give him the opportunity to play. Put his stall next to Markov and hopefully Marky can translate and teach him a little English! We should look like this when Markov and Campoli are back (in no order):

      Markov – Emelin
      Gill – Subban
      Campoli – Gorges

      Or even better, we can trade Weber and a low pick for a physical and reliable stay-at-home d-man (I mentioned Cory Sarich yesterday).

      It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight; It’s about the size of the fight in the dog.

  13. Timo says:

    So there used to be a schedule tab on HIO before… what time is the Peg game tomorrow?

  14. t1tan5 says:

    One game doesn’t make a season. Drawing huge, generalized conclusions based on a sample size of ONE game is about as relevant as saying all cars are useless pieces of crap after seeing a 1994 Eagle Vista on the road.

    • Timo says:

      Well, personally my conclusions have been drawn say since JM became the coach. Is that a good enough sample of games?

      • t1tan5 says:

        So you are admitting your prejudice. You and I both know that your conclusions were drawn far before game 1 of the 2009-2010 season. You know, that season where we played up to Victoria Day weekend. Where JM outcoached Boudreau and media darling Bylsma. This sample also includes a season where our back end was decimated with injuries; where we had a team lose to the eventual Stanley Cup champions minus three of our top six defensemen. If you are not satisfied with this considering the teams we had, you are only looking at the outlying (forgive the math nerd reference) “data points.” I agree that his style can sometimes be boring, but he has done very well with what he was dealt.

        Now this season – a season that is ONE game old. Many people are reacting as if the Habs will finish 0-82 this season based on this one game. Never in the history of anything has a sample size of one been significant. Wait for Markov to return, then wait another five to ten games. Maybe I will agree with you then, maybe I won’t. My point is that the ship seems to have a leak and people are jumping off the deck before knowing whether the hole is the size of an iceberg or a bolt.

        • HardHabits says:

          Boudreau and Bylsma got out coached by Halak.

          • samTHEman says:


            It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

          • Mark C says:

            Right, just like how Thomas out coached everyone, including Guy the Great.

          • Propwash says:

            And huge amounts of shot blocking.

          • t1tan5 says:

            Disagree. Halak was an integral part of a TEAM effort to win. JM was in on that, too. His match ups effectively shut down Crosby the entire Pittsburgh series.

          • Chorske says:

            Propwash: don’t mention the shot blocking (40+ a game, wasn’t it) and the heroic diving PKs. Or that the team remained disciplined and played it’s game, sticking to speed and transition rather than trying to outhit and run and gun opponents that were stronger on paper (i.e. they followed the coach’s game plan).

            If you DO mention these things, HardHabits will accuse you of being mean, and the Dude will offer you a slice of Pie Chart™ .

        • Timo says:

          Well… all I hear is how we have one of the best top 6 and this and that. So I think he wasn’t dealt all that bad. I don ‘t think Markov has anything to do with that. The team is not scoring. It wasn’t last year. The team is soft and can never pull it off in a grind it out type of a game or series. Habs are not the only one who have injuries and have to work with what they’ve got. JM is not a coach who can adopt to a particular situation. He know one style (one that never worked anyway) and no matter what this is what his players will be expected to play.

          Mind you, i am not obsolving Habs players of their inabilities, laziness, being perimeter pu$$ies, etc… But JM sucks and I want him gone. Same for his master PG.

          • t1tan5 says:

            I think Markov being gone has more to do with our lack of scoring than you think. He’s got the best break-out pass on the team and he pinches effectively and in a timely manner. In addition, his vision at the point during PP’s and even 5 on 5 is unsurpassed by any Habs defenseman in the past decade.

            Regarding management: JM has made some poor decisions, that’s for sure. That being said, his benchings of PK last season – while universally unpopular – may well have lit a fire under the young defenseman’s ass. Eller came along quite well last season as well. He preaches a sometimes boring defensive system, but it DOES work. Just ask Jacques Lemaire how the trap worked out for his coaching career.

        • Timo says:

          Oh, and I never hide my prejudice. 🙂

      • Considering the play of the team from one year to the next was wildly different, I’m not sure what kind of conclusion you can draw to be honest.


      • stevieray says:

        we’re on the same page T man …the sample size is 2 years and it’d the same old …thank god for Price last year ..he bailed us out again and again …not much offensive help ….
        Damn vegetaerians ..

  15. RetroMikey says:

    Yup, speed and skill will get you very far in today’s NHL with the players we have today who are short and oh so fragile as well…….NOT!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  16. tbovs says:

    I wonder why sometimes that I cheer for the habs as I tell my 4 year old son stories about the Rocket and the teams of yester year. It will never be the same anymore but I just can’t understand why this team and our fans are some pessimistic or negative or what have you. This is the reason no one reads the papers or press cause if anyone on the team ever read what they say on this board they may quit and join the priesthood to repent for the failings of their hockey skills as told by the experts here. Just a joke.

    Leaf’s almost blow a 4 goal lead and barely….barely got by the horrible sens. Reimer was brutal just as he was in the first period with us on Thurs.

    Not much is gonna change with this team this year. JM will live out his contract this season and with a playoff berth will guarentee a finished contract i.e. next year as well. We can complain all we like but yet nothing will happen.

    We need a huge push and play within our system that has got us to the conference semis and almost beating the SC champs. Just stop making mistakes and play within yourself and things will happen.

    Or we could just call god boucher and pray to him to come back and bless our team to a perfect record. Beyond silly.

  17. Cohen Chatter says:

    Attention Geoff Molson! Are you paying attention to how Pierre Gauthier is dropping your money down the sewer, acquiring two injury prone players without any grit in Campoli and Betts? And wait till Markov plays his first game, reinjures his knee and sits out for the next two years while you pay him $11 milllion.The best thing that can happen is a serious Habs losing streak to start the season, with Gauthier and Mr. Boring coach Martin fired. Bad news Gainey will come back as interim GM and Clement Jodoin brought up as interim head coach.

  18. j2w4habs25 says:

    I think I am going to aband myself from Facebook for awhile. The Leaf fans are getting too cooky with there 2-0-0

    Carey Price #31

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Relax, they were planning the SC parade route at this time last year too. They like to do this to their fans, get their hopes and expectations up and then crush them with an 11 game losing streak that ends with all the veteran players getting traded at the trade deadline. It’s Leaf’s hockey!

    • stevieray says:

      last year they were 4-0 ..and we know what happened…relax j2 ..more of the same ..+ Reinmer’s bubble is ginna burst …

  19. Tis Himself says:

    They will either show up and get two points or suck and go home with their tails between their legs. You really have to make the mental adjustment that I have. The Montreal Canadiens are a troupe of entertainers, kinda like circus performers. They ceased being a motivated sports franchise years ago. We grew up comparing them to the NY Yankees, the Milwaukee Brewers might better be a better comp. (This year is an anomaly I hope.)

    • HardHabits says:

      I watched the Caps/Canes game tonight. What a difference those two teams are compared to what the Habs are. It’s like two different leagues.

      It was tied 2-2 in the 3rd and Carolina took a boarding penalty with like 4 minutes left. Then on the PP Ovechkin gets slashed and tripped drawing another penalty for an ensuing 5 on 3. Funny thing is the goal tending was spectacular as both teams were playing their back-ups in Boucher and Neuvirth.

      Anyways the Caps scored on the two man advantage to make it 3-2 and Carolina held them off for the remaining 90 seconds of 5 on 4. Carolina pulled their goalie in the final minute and Skinner did a nifty little move sending the puck to Jokinen who soccer kicked it to his stick and buried it, all this after a nice battle on the boards that the Canes won. No way the Habs could have been involved in the type of grinding that both those teams were into.

      The Caps won on it 4-3 on another PP in OT.

      There was lots of pushing and shoving and rough stuff. The kind of hockey reality that the Habs and so many people here seem to loathe and poo-poo. The kind of stuff that will render the Habs ineffective and peripheral for many games this season.

      Montreal is an art city. The spot lights were beaming into the night. Young people were out in droves for this wonderful Indian Summer (global warming) evening.

      While I was having my local micro-brasserie glass of beer I was thinking how Montreal is no longer a hockey city. Well not a pro sports city. It is a show town. The Habs would be better being owned by Cirque du Soleil. Maybe they should do a Montreal Canadiens World Tour and re-enact all the great victories of the past.

      The Habs look like a team that will finish 4th in North East. They could win on the back of Carey Price but barring that they don’t have a hope of ever hoisting the Cup.

      They’ll rake in the coin and do an excellent job with the press and marketing but championships are not in the cards for this team.

      The audience and Bell Centre crowd are not hockey fans with a knowledge of drafting or development. They are spectators watching a show. If the show is good they cheer. If the show sucks they boo. If the show sucks for long they wont show up and wont buy merchandise.

      The league needs the money that Montreal fans pump into it. Hence the middling finishes followed by the middling picks and the rentals in perpetuity. Perennial middle of the packers spinning their wheels in the mud but still providing a good show with an excellent marketing plan. The Bell Centre ice is beautiful and the experience of being there is worth the price of admission. If the Habs can maintain the illusion of contention, meaning convincing enough people that once you make the play-offs anything can happen they will continue to bilk the susceptible fans who are living on faith alone. Yes we Apostles have seen the miracles but now it is all about the Religion and its base of followers.

      Soon Habs fans will just accept that they’ll have to die to see the Habs win the Cup because it’ll only happen in the afterlife.

      • RetroMikey says:

        Welcome back HH

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • Timo says:

        I dont’ care to read a page of text but welcome back, sir. Self exile is over.

        • HardHabits says:

          TYVM. It’s like the friggin’ Hotel California here.

          BTW. Your prescient skills are astounding. If ever you predict the Habs to win the Cup I am plunking down at least a G-note in Vegas on them.

      • samTHEman says:

        Sad but true. Inevitable reality we all love to deny. But in the end, money rules the world.

        It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I think the only reason You left was to refresh Your material Dave
        …so far, so good

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

      • OneTimer says:

        Habs lose one game, and all of a sudden all the Timos/HH of HIO act like they’re some kind of prophet…

      • Man Dingga says:

        I think Habs fans would love to see a team with a balance of talent and grit. We just need some bigger players and much more grit…thats all! We need to get rid of the dead weight, guys AK, Spacek, Gomez and Moen. We need players who can defend our talented players when guys like Pronger, Chara or Neil try to take out our stars. Never been a JM fan he couldn’t win the cup in Ottawa and he won’t win it in Montreal. We need a coach who can motivate and keep his players in check. JM is too quiet and honestly not good enough for the Montreal Canadiens. Making the playoffs isn’t good enough and squeaking into the playoffs every year is not good enough. Time to nut up Molson and get this storied franchise back to the top.

      • hansolo says:

        Let me also welcome you back. The place wasn’t the same without you — and it wouldn’t be the same without Andrew Berkshire, either. Both of you contribute to the board in a positive way, except for when you both get nasty and personal when you slug it out in public. It’s the difference between watching a solid check versus a headshot — the latter, unlike the former, is not pleasant to watch.

        Anyway, I’ll look forward to reading your posts again.

  20. SeriousFan09 says:

    Prospect Update:

    Hamilton Bulldogs win their home opener in a 5-2 win over the Rochester Americans. Brock Trotter had two goals, including a penalty shot goal, 2 assists. Frederick St Denis had two goals, Aaron Palushaj had two assists, Alain Berger had his first AHL point in his first game, assisting on an Ian Schultz goal. Nathan Lawson collected the win in nets, stopping 30 of 32 shots.

    Michael Bournival’s 5-game scoring streak comes to an end, but his point streak extends to 6 games as he assisted on the Game-winning goal in a 4-2 win over the Armada.

    Nathan Beaulieu picked up two helpers in an 8-2 win over Rimouski Oceanic.

    Darren Dietz has a goal after 1 period with the Saskatoon Blades.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  21. Mark C says:

    Few random thoughts:

    Guy the Great and his band of men returned to Boston, where they last lost the right to play for the Cup. Tampa loses 4-1 and is outshoot 42-26. Thought this sort of thing didn’t happen to good coaches.

    Benny played a game low 7:42, even Thornton got more ice time.

    Halak isn’t looking too good so far, allowing 3 goals on 15 shots.

    Can all the Auld is better than Budaj talk stop for a day or two?

    • solomio says:

      Point 1. That’s just silly
      Point 2. Breaking into the lineup of a world champion team ain’t no cakewalk. Pooly will have to earn his ice time.
      Point 3. Who?
      Point 4. What?

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  22. MarkChipmen says:

    Apparently, while AK46 was dining at the Keg in downtown Winnipeg, the rest of the team was at Earls on Main Street.


  23. deuce6 says:

    Red Light Reimer..5 goals on 25 shots…If OTT could actually play D and their goalies didn’t suck, they would have won that one…You guys are overrating this Leafs team..They are young and with youth comes inexperience and panic..They will fold under pressure more often than not this season….They are 2-0 and according to Leafers, on their way to the SCF…lol


    Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

  24. Bozo McBozo says:

    I have actually played in both the ACC and Maple Leaf Gardens and I prefer the latter. Hottest place on the planet to lace ’em up, but even if you lost (I didn’t) you lost a boatload of weight.

  25. PrimeTime says:

    what a final 5 min….houseleague. And Mr Faceoff (Steckle) loses the last 2 key draws. Entertaing game but not great hockey. Hopefully will be better tomorrow!

  26. Wow horrendous period for Reimer.
    That’s more like him.

  27. durocher says:

    No fight from Spezza

  28. Bozo McBozo says:

    Heave away!!!

  29. durocher says:

    What a pretty goal by OTT

  30. Bozo McBozo says:

    I kinda like professional pickup hockey!

  31. Bozo McBozo says:

    Hat Trick for “One (Maybe Fewer) Ball Phil!” Could the Habs as a team pot as many tomorrow afternoon? Stay tuned!

  32. TorontoHabsFan says:

    That’s more like the Leafs we all know and love!

  33. Bozo McBozo says:

    Heck I think Ron Wilson just Phaneufed! (That is my new term for when you trust a fart and things don’t work out!)

  34. Propwash says:

    Crazy game……

  35. durocher says:

    PG, the Pens sent down Eric Tangradi — a big power forward and PK’s former teammate in the O. We should try to pry him out of Pittsburgh, perhaps as a replacement for AK, whose a UFA at the end of the season.

  36. PrimeTime says:

    Leafs are looking good but Ott has no D and little offense. Still, TO is playing big and they look into it…..young hungry team that will make mistakes but they look improved. Then again Leafs have a history of starting and finishing the season well. Time will tell if they can win in between. Habs will look to get better as the season progresses….sucking game 1 is good start to that plan!

  37. durocher says:

    Nice goal by Jokinen to tie up the Caps-Canes game 3-3

  38. solomio says:

    Ali G in da House

    “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  39. JF says:

    People will probably jump on me for this, but if the Leafs’ goaltending holds up – a big if with Reimer not really having proven anything yet – I wouldn’t be surprised if they finished ahead of us. Their defence looks better than ours, and I think Kessel, Grabovski, and Kulemin will score more goals than our top three.

  40. Bozo McBozo says:

    Bozo’s Pregame Rant: The Leafs got at least five goals as I write this evening. The Habs will struggle like Trojans to get just one tomorrow afternoon in the ‘peg. Why? Pretty simple from what I saw of opening-season tilt. Despite rules that have made the front of the opposition net safe for retirees, let alone profesional hockey players, the Habs refuse to go there. It’s like JM is showing them tapes of the NHL in the early 70s for preparation and they are scared defication-less of going in front of the net. Man up! Occupy dangerous space and you have a chance of winning. You haven’t really started pucksterbating on the perimeter yet, but I fear it is coming. Please grow a set and soon at that. Gomez, you still are a major suckfest on blades until I see differently.

    “The greater the odds, the greater the glory.” George Armstrong Custer

  41. HabinBurlington says:

    How long till Spezza pulls a Heatley and demands out of Ottawa?

  42. Bozo McBozo says:

    Sens scored! Time for Wilson to get Fat Bastard between the pipes!

    • habsrules2 says:

      Am I missing something, you are paying a player 4.5 million dollars a year. 1. he only plays 10 mins the whole game. 2. he does not see 1 minute of power play time, and 3 he is on the third line. Really am I missing something? Oh wait that must mean that Jacques Martin is the coach of the Montreal Canadiens. And of course I’m talking about Eric Cole. Mr. Molson please wake up, Jacques Martin is not a coach. God forbid that a Montreal defenceman actually throws a check, if he did, he will be in Martins doghouse. We need a coach that will allow the offence to actually skate and shoot and the defence to hit, forget the trap, lets play hockey. Go Habs Go. Go Carey Go.

  43. durocher says:

    Moen had a grand total of one hit against Toronto. I’m not impressed.

  44. Premier Ralph says:

    Ian Shultz just put a pounding on a Rochester player. Maybe this WILL be the guy we are looking for.

  45. solomio says:

    Leafs defence looking very good. And they’ve got some pretty good goal scorers. 4-0 Leafs. Komisarek getting pretty uppity these days. Throwing his weight around, mouthing off. Where’s Lucy when you need him?

    “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

    • Bozo McBozo says:

      The Leafs do in fact look good. Given time and patience, Burke and Wilson will put them back on the road to respectability. Let’s be honest about it. Those two came within a bad overtime goal of winning the gold medal for the US at the Vancouver Olympics.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Well i know Ottawa will be one the worst teams in league this year, having tried to read the thread today, it appears mtl will be as well. According to that we can’t yet judge tranna’s defense.

  46. ffenliv says:

    A die-hard sens fan in my hockey pool took Craig Anderson as his only real starting goalie. Man is he paying for that now. He was sure Anderson would put up good numbers behind a team with a) loads of youth and b) veterans who look like shit.

  47. naweed235 says:

    bahahah…. What cheese this Claude Noel, Jet’s Coach is hahahahhaha WOW, that was one of the most awkward interviews ive seen from a nhl coach… u can watch it on RDS.ca

  48. solomio says:

    Refs just threw Neal out of the game for laying a beating on Schenn. Replay shows Schenn was looking for the fight. And why throw Neal out of the game ?

    “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  49. badbalance says:

    Shenn drops his glove and engages neil.. Neil gets a 4 minute penalty for roughing and instigating… Reffing is still a joke..

  50. cojohnso80 says:

    I highly doubt that I am the only one pissed off at the fact that Management continues to employ a head coach that stands there with a dumb look on his face during crutial stragtegy timeouts while a rookie assistant coach is the acting general drawing up the battleplan. WHY DO WE HAVE A COACH that is not competent in communicating an effective strategy? I am so sick of this I want to puke. By no means am I asking Jaques Martin to open his fat stupid mouth at any time during the game,,he is most effective doing nothing,,but for god sakes lets get ourselves a freaking benchBOSS.

  51. Hobie Hansen says:

    Konopka sure would have looked good between White and Moen.

  52. Hobie Hansen says:

    Don Cherry has a lot of class!

    And yes, Montreal and Edmonton sure made a mistake with Souray!

    Souray would have stepped in and fought Chara last year and stood up to the Bruins. Maybe he would have got his ass handed to him but showing up is all that counts.

    Go Habs Go and lets toughen up and play some hockey!

    • Bozo McBozo says:

      I will grant that he was in fact well dressed tonight and leave it a that. While I am up in the air about Souray being a mistake, I certainly believe that they repeated it by not resigning Mark Streit for the equivalent of NHL chump change when they had the chance. The guys running the Habs really do believe that bombers from the point are a dime a dozen.

  53. MikeMcLaren says:

    So I was watching what appears to be an avid self-tanner, Don Cherry’s segment this evening.

    Does anyone else remember when Ron MacLean took over Coach’s Corner hosting duties (from Dave Hodge?) that he actually challenged Cherry rather than apologized for him?

    As others have said… follow the money. I think MacLean must make a fair chunk of change doing personal appearance gigs because of the fame he gets from Coach’s Corner, too. (Or from playing shirtless beer guitar http://deadspin.com/5843923/deadspin-i+team-ron-macleans-shirtless-beer-guitar)

    Or it’s merely Stockholm Syndrome, but Cherry’s never much been a fan of Stockholm, has he?


  54. badbalance says:

    Are leafs gonna concede a goal this season?

  55. TorontoHabsFan says:

    For those claiming that Montreal has the worst defence in the league…I invite you to watch Ottawa play.

    • Bozo McBozo says:

      Yea, but the Sens can always go to DEFCON 4 and have that gladiator dude come on the ice before the game begins to strike fear into their opponents.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        Man, this Ottawa team looks just awful so far. It’s likely going to be a looong season in Bytown.

        • Bozo McBozo says:

          The problem the Habs may have is that they are closer to the Sens than the cream of the Northeast division.

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            Oh I think I’d disagree with that. I see no reason why they won’t be a lock for the playoffs and will be battling Boston all year for 2nd in the North East.

        • JD_ says:

          When you’re watchin’ a game and are compelled to recheck the record for fewest points in a modern-era season – 1974-75 Caps, 21 – you know there’s a problem. I kid you not.

          • Bozo McBozo says:

            I missed the game live on Thursday night, but watched it on tape. As much as the Habs had boatloads of shots against the Leafs in the first, it seems like they’re back to the perimeter nonsense and need to get themselves in more dangerous space on the ice.

          • JD_ says:

            To be sure, I was referencin’ the Ott-Tor game.

  56. Bozo McBozo says:

    The Leafs goal song is freakin’ horrible, but at least they get to play it!

  57. Bozo McBozo says:

    I still think that suggesting to Don Cherry that mixing bleach and ammonia is the most effective cleaning agent to be found has potential.

  58. habstrinifan says:

    The last few days of HIO posts have convinced me that JM and PG have to go.

    And I am willing to suffer thru a 3-7 or less start to the season if it would accomplish that.

    I CANNOT bear the thought of going thru the entire SEASON with the team functioning as it did last season and ending up as minnows offensively and whipping boys physically for the league.

    Please give us back our team JM and PG.

  59. Bozo McBozo says:

    Grabs can find the back of the net. Why did the Habs ditch him? I think it had something to do with Jacques Martin.

  60. JD_ says:


    The CBC’s Ott-Tor game graphic, The Pillow Fight of Ontario. I’m admittedly really surprised to see that kinda open truthfulness.

  61. Craig_Mc says:

    HIO should run a poll to find out which folks think will be ready first, the new Champlain Bridge, or Andrei Markov?

  62. chemic says:

    benny has done more in five minutes in todays game then the whole last season

    • SmartDog says:

      This is what I predicted. Benny will blossom in Ottawa under a coach that will do what it takes to get him to play well.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  63. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I defy anyone to explain to me why that fight between Konopka and Brown was necessary and what it achieved.

  64. JD_ says:

    Man, two full days of puttin’ up HWeen decorations – to use the term loosely – and I still have a day to go. Good thing my son has gotten considerably stronger over the last year and is gettin’ pretty adept with the tools, cause I think I might have considered a sabbatical from the whole thing this year.

    Good thing it’s for a good cause, damnit.

    Just read the Dowbiggin piece on Chestnut. This comment kinda sums up what many suspect to be the problem, “But HNIC makes significant money that the news people need to survive, and so it has been allowed to operate quasi-independently from the rest of CBC. With an anticipated funding cut of between five and 10 per cent from the federal government, the dollars generated by Cherry are precious…there is no appetite at the top for taking on the Coach’s Corner star.”

    No appetite, indeed. Untouchable.

    Worse, if they really felt Chestnut was loseable, it would cost the mothership a big wad to make him go away.

    Not 100% certain, but I think the next bid for the NHL’s Canadian english broadcast rights is 2014. That means three more full seasons of this, unless either Cherry goes way too far or just hangs ’em up.

    Who knows? Maybe he’ll have an epiphany and change his whole gig, become a tempered voice of reason, and work towards the betterment of the game.

    Meh. Probably not.

  65. SmartDog says:

    I’d like to play poker with Gauthier. He’s not looking like a very good gambler so far.

    Markov so far is a bad gamble. Emelin, bad gamble (affected by Markov too). Campoli… oops! Halpern = who needs him? How about US. Budaj may work out sure, but the preseason was a disaster. The one guy who looks like a good ‘gamble’ was Gorges and he’s the guy who Gauthier refused to give the contract he wanted. Spacek – still here and sucking.

    The team may work out, I’m not saying that it won’t, but starting with pre-season the signs are not what anyone might hope.
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Mark C says:

      How is Emelin a bad gamble when he hasn’t even played a game yet? Same with Budaj. And saying it’s a bad gamble when a guy hurts. Odd stuff. I know it’s en vogue to bash the management, but wouldn’t a “smart” fan watch these guys play at least one regular season game before passing judgment?

      • deuce6 says:

        Campoli was coming off an injury..I wonder why CHI decided to walk away? Hmmmmmm…

        Markov was a gamble he didn’t need to take because we had Wiz manning the point and actually playing/producing…

        Spacek should have been waived and/or sent down…Now we can’t do anything with him because we have less veteran NHL calibre d-man on the back end…

        Emelin didn’t look NHL ready in the pre season….

        Yeah, I would tend to agree with the OP….


        Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

        • habstrinifan says:

          Kinda like your matter-of-fact explanation. No emotion or reading too much into potential. Maybe PG should have approached it thus. Couldnt have been worse.

    • MikeMcLaren says:

      A) Markov has a three-year deal and is still recovering from his injury. He had a setback in his rehab, okay, but how is that a bad gamble? If he starts in November, that’s 35 of 36 contract months he could possible play. Too early to judge.

      B) Emelin was a no-brainer to sign. How can that even be seen as a “gamble”? Why are you prepared to declare him a failure before he’s played a single NHL game? Right now, he’s defensive depth, which is something we need.

      C) Carey Price’s pre-season was a disaster last year, too. Repeat after me: Pre-season. Means. Nothing.

      D) Josh Gorges, I think most fans would like to have seen him signed to a longer-term deal, but I’m pretty sure they’ll get something fair done for both sides… and Gauthier will have a better idea of what assets he has down the road, too.

      E) Spacek is on his last contract year. That was Gainey’s pickup, ultimately. We have no idea how much or little Gauthier recommended him to Gainey, but what sort of return do you think he’d get on Spatcho anyway? Right now he’s an important depth defenseman who will be gone (with his salary) at the end of the season.

      F) Again. Pre-season. Means. Nothing. The Bruins went 1-3-1 last year in North American exhibitions. Funny how everyone remembers that Stanley Cup they won last season, but not their crappy pre-season record, huh?

      Eighty-one more games to go… I’m thinking we need to chill.

      GO HABS GO!

    • naweed235 says:

      As much as I agree with the Georges and Markov part the rest is bogus… Emelin has yet to play a game and you’re calling a him a gamble??? For all you know the guy might become the next Nick Lidstrom… Also Halpern was just getting slow and I find that Betts is a much MUCH better replacement for him…

  66. Everlasting1 says:

    Just a heads up to anyone remembering MTV’s Beavis And Butthead. All new episodes coming, here’s the trailer 🙂

    When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • SmartDog says:

      Why did the Hebrew scouts want to discourage the others from entering Canaan?

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • ooder says:

        because the inhabitant where too bi…… oh hohohohooh i see what you did there
        clever 🙂

        The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

      • Everlasting1 says:

        It’s all in the bible, SD. The most misunderstood book, and the top seller of all time.

        When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

        “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

        • SmartDog says:

          I assumed it was from the bible and was asking a serious question. I mean, you put it in your sig on a hockey site, you can at least answer a question about it.

          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • Everlasting1 says:

            Because the Nephilim (Anakim) were giants among men, ruthless, and intimidating.

            When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • habstrinifan says:

            There is a show on History Channel called Alien ??. It basically tries to tie historical evidence to possibilities that Aliens once walked on the earth and may have contributed much to ancient civilizations. This GIANT dwelling bibilical story was one alluded to… surmising that maybe the GIANTS were aliens.

          • Chorske says:

            And the evidence that these giants existed is….?

            PLEASE. Someone tell me there’s a pie chart about this somewhere.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            What would you consider evidence, Chorske? Cos none of them were caught on fraudulent video.
            The biblical giants and events is corroborated by many other historical ancient texts..sumerian, assyrian, babylonian, akkadian, Hittite, egyptian, inc. the many folklores/myths throughout antiquity.

            When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  67. SmartDog says:

    HIO Guys,

    You guys work hard to create a positive environment. Even if we’re sometimes critical, we generally appreciate it, and you know that.

    But tell your handlers at the Gazoo, that cutting us off from your articles is a) a reason to spend less time here and b) a negative that affects the overall relationship. It’s damaging to your brand.

    Not only that, but it’s so rudely transparent. Here are two things that REALLY piss me off AND show how obvious this ploy is to get HIO visitors to pony up some cash:
    Point 1. Even though I am supposedly at my 30-day limit, I CAN read OTHER articles in the online Gazette. No problem! Just not the sports articles.
    Point 2. This “30 day period” thing is OBVIOUSLY bogus. I’m STILL over my 30-day limit and have been for weeks. If there really IS a 30 day limit, it must be, I dunno, 1 article.

    This is just BS guys. I’m sure you know it. We know it too. So tell your bosses this is just a way to piss people off. You may be “the only game in town” in terms of what exactly you do. But there are lots of other places to read about the Habs. And LOTS of other ways I can spend my time if trying to read about the Habs here becomes too frustrating. And I’m close to it. And so are others I am sure.

    When most companies have finally learned that removing barriers to access is key to a successful online presence, the Gazette is putting up new barriers. Hopefully the genius behind this will lose his job.


    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  68. The Dude says:

    Glad to see HH back…now where’s the rabbit and MJ?

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