Sanford, White, Maxwell, Henry, Weber to ‘Dogs

The Canadiens have sent goalie Curtis Sanford, forwards Ryan White and Ben Maxwell and defencemen Yannick Weber and Alex Henry to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs.

The Habs are en route from Quebec to Toronto on a charter flight, arriving at their Toronto hotel late this afternoon. We’ll see if the team will make head coach Jacques Martin available to discuss the roster moves.

*  *  *

Will the team playing Brian Burke hockey take some penalties tomorrow night?

If so, these are the power-play units they’ll be facing, based on alignments at practice today:

First wave: Plekanec-Gomez-Gionta-Subban-Spacek

Second wave: Eller-AK46-Pouliot-Gorges-Picard


  1. LA Loyalist says:

    You could at least mention Pilsner Urquell once in a while, an excellent beer – or is it a Czech beer?


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  2. topher5468 says:

    I agree with that, As Habs fans we need to focus on players that are actually on OUR roster, Halak was a fine Canadien but as you eluded to he is now a Blue, Go habs and Price

     “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  3. andrewberkshire says:

    Yeah I understand what you’re saying.

  4. bwoar says:

    Still too young to toss out.  Gimme a break, do you see how many D we have under contract for next year?  He’ll get another shot no problem.

  5. Timo says:

    You won’t be terribly impressed.

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    Anyone see Red FIsher’s column today?

    He reckons the Hawks will have trouble repeating as champs after having had to get rid of all those players.


  7. HabFanSince72 says:


    Also, I’m not so sure Darche is a career AHLer. He seems not too bad to me.

  8. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yeah that’s right – Alex Henry is a victim of the “French Media”.


  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Same reason Belle (Who was a great physical D in Hamilton) never stuck with the team. They have elements of NHL talents but they don’t have any NHL-level hockey sense, they just can’t react quickly enough against NHL players and take the appropriate actions and that can’t happen with defencemen.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  10. habaddict_andy says:

    YOur greeting is taking up so much space.  What’s up with that?


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  11. SeriousFan09 says:

    That’s gotta be hard for Laperriere, to be so close to the Cup that year and lose out and now being told he has to retire after pushing himself back into those playoffs.

    Glad the doctors insisted he quit, no one should go through the rest of their life with such bad health from their playing days they can’t enjoy the rest of their life (or even remember their playing days!).


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  12. HabsFanMTL says:

    its no surprise that they kept picard instead of alex henry, gawd knows we upset the french media by sending picard down

  13. joeybarrie says:

    Have you EVER posted anything without mentioning HALAK? Do you have ANYTHING to contribute to this site other than Price Bashing and Halak Worshipping??? Halak is a St. Louis Blue. He is NOT a Montreal Canadien.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  14. Brocas Brain says:

    I do not work behind the scenes with the habs, but if I were
    the GM I would be consulting Jacques before any signing. As I am sure the PG
    does as well.

    Honestly, I would like to see another forward other than Moen (who will be in
    tough tomorrow i might add) who can hold his own going into the corners…Pyatt
    / Boyd / Darche are redundant players and I would swap any in a heartbeat for


  15. habaddict_andy says:

    I still want to see how Boyd play for few games.  I don’t know him enough to comment how he is.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  16. scrowe21 says:

    From what I saw Picard had a much better camp than Weber did, plus Picard can work the PP better and has a decent shot from the point. He does tend to cough up the puck sometimes but no more then the rest of the D, they all need to improve on that.


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  17. topher5468 says:

    I hope your wrong too but what did they do to correct this issue from last year, Boyd, Halpern, not good enough. This team needs a gritty top 6 forward who will go to the net, we have AK46 and Pouliot, gritty like soft serve 

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  18. Aaron13 says:

    Picard gives up the puck too frequently – big mistake keeping him.

    White is a hard worker and deserves to be on the team.

    Henry /Weber are much better than Picard.

    Oh well, we shall see.


  19. Hagar says:

    He’ll make the team next year. You heard it here first Mikey. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  20. scrowe21 says:

    I dont know why people are suprised with White being sent down, from day one of training camp this year there were no spots available for white,maxpac or maxwell….. personally I would rather have White in the line up over Halpern,Boyd or Darche, but if it was up to me I wouldn’t have resigned Darche to a 1 way contract in the first place, or signed Halpern.


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  21. habaddict_andy says:

    Laperriere told to retire.  Sorry if this was already posted.  This must be hard to accept.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  22. AH says:

    Timo you’re back? (I haven’t been reading much of the commentariet lately). Glad you’re back, I missed your negative and hilarious (although often spot on) comments!


  23. avatar_58 says:

    I’m no Martin fan either but tell me how it’s his fault they signed Halpern and Boyd? No one with any hockey sense would send Pyatt or Eller down to get White on this team.

  24. LA Loyalist says:

    My point is goalies are notoriously wonkie – Roy was a bit neurotic, with his goal post conversations and twitches, but when it was on the line, WOW!

    Price has to get some mojo and focus from somewhere and soon. It’s never too soon to start a winning culture, we got it going in the playoffs and we don’t want to lose that momentum.



    “Insert tagline here.”

  25. Storm Man says:

    Care to bet on that? or do you have the flu 365 days a year.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    You need to update your favourites on your browser, try here.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  27. ShyS says:

    gahh! will they PLEASE stop sending white down?? he’s a smart player and the habs need him!

  28. SeriousFan09 says:

    White’s spot is in the actual bottom 6, Darche is a 13th forward you sit in the box because you don’t care if his talents are being wasted, White losing half (or more) of his season not playing and being shifted in and out for daily ailments does his development nothing. White will be a “Black Ace” for the playoffs after playing 80 games in Hamilton this season and getting even better.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  29. riazp says:

    wow ryan white is 10th in trending topics on twitter in canada!

  30. Mike Boone says:

    Hey, read my post, man! I’m positively Pollyannaish

  31. avatar_58 says:

    Once again – who is sent down over White? No one seems to offer any suggestions

  32. ManApart says:

    He still has until next season at this time. Guys like Hammer and Gill and Maybe Spatcho are gone, leaving some openings on D. Montreal doesn’t have any legit prospects to step in except Emelin, if he even exists. If Weber doesn’t make the team out of camp next season, I’m with you.

  33. Harani says:

    It’s Hart.

    “It must be love!”

  34. Slovak says:

    In the end Halak will get Vezina and Heart trophy while Price will get another flu, write it down :)

  35. puck face says:

    shouldn’t they hang on to Sanford for a couple of days?

  36. likehoy says:


    mathieu darche is still with the team. Great guy, but a 33 year old career AHLer living a dream! taking someone like white’s spot. I honestly don’t get the decision to sign and keep the guy given that he played around 30 seconds a game in the playoffs. what’s the point of keeping someone we won’t be using in the playoffs? it sure beats the hell out of me. is darche going to magically improve to a more reliable player at this  stage of his career?

    then again dustin boyd was by far the worst roster player during the pre-season (-4 or 5 i think)…but it’s tough to judge since he just got here.

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  37. Brocas Brain says:

    Very disappointed about White…but not surprised given Jacques’
    has never iced a team that is tough since his days arriving in the NHL. 

  38. razor436 says:

    My only disappointment is that White was sent down to the ‘dogs. He diplayed much grit, heart, and willingness to fight that is sorely lacking in our organisation. It baffles me why they’d refer Boyd to White. To tell you the truth, I don’t thik I’ve ever noticed Boyd in the preseason.

  39. montrealtilldeath says:

    White sent down and Picard kept over Henry. I guess Pauline Marois is now picking the team. Was listening to the RDS discussion the other night and even they said Picard was too hesitant with the puck and they were unanimous in the opinion he would be cut. As for White they were very high on him and his tough play. We have too many “Tin Men” on the team. No heart!!!

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ha, nice.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  41. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ll take rookie coachs who didn’t work out in Montreal for 400$!!!

    Boucher isn’t the only guy who can develop talent, Cunneyworth has a solid record for preparing prospect for NHL action.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  42. Danno says:

    Good one Timo!


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  43. Lazarus_taxa says:

    that would be RDS….. Everytime I go to that site I burst a vein.  I actually find refuge here believe it or not.

  44. avatar_58 says:

    Damnit Timo I was just about to post that.

  45. avatar_58 says:

    That still kind of sticks with me. I hope he eventually returns, because Trotter is going to be good one day

  46. Hammer says:

    I hope I am proven wrong, but the Habs  are again a soft team that will struggle 5 on 5 and have to rely on their PP. White unfortunately is a victim of the salary cap, though he showed more toughness than anyone on the current roster. They need size on the front end to complement the speedy smaller forwards.

  47. Lazarus_taxa says:

    Agreed.  At this point it’s all business.  If you want White in the lineup, you have to put someone on waivers that doesn’t really deserve to be on waivers at this point.  Pyatt, Halpern, Boyd, Darche, deserve to AT LEAST prove their worth during the regular season.  Its not like they stunk up training camp…..  This sucks, agreed, but it was to be expected and logical.  By the way,  Of those guys I mentioned, Pyatt and Boyd are awesome,  Halpern, I don’t really have an opinion yet, and Darche is a great team guy and gives 150% all the time and actually played pretty good in training camp, so you can’t just get rid of any of these guys before the season starts….  In my opinion, of course. 

  48. Mr.Hazard says:

    Brock Trotter played well ( says the best on his team) during the match-up between the Coyotes and Dinamo Riga today.

  49. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s a big complement for Price.

  50. Mark C says:

    For some perspective about the need of NHL forward depth. Last season Montreal had 19 forwards play in at least 10 games (this counts Benny and Gui as one).

    White will play a lot of games this season, it would be very foolish to wavier a player like Halpern, Boyd or whoever just to find room for White. He’ll be back before you know it.  

  51. Timo says:

    Yeah, but he would let out a big rebound and inflict everybody else with the germ. (reusing the rebound joke from earlier today. hope the author forgives me)

  52. LA Loyalist says:

    Good point. It’s better the guys play lots in Hamilton under Guy Boucher, a fine young coach on his way up… oh crap!



    “You don’t win The Stanley Cup in the first game — Carey Price.”

  53. joeybarrie says:

    Does the same count for Price?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  54. Danno says:

    I’m pretty sure Halak would have stopped that germ from getting into his system.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  55. LA Loyalist says:

    For you young ‘uns out there, Glenn Hall (Stanley Cup, Chicago 1961) often threw up before games.

    Maybe Price is the next Glenn Hall.



    “You don’t win The Stanley Cup in the first game of the season – Carey Price.”

  56. avatar_58 says:

    So explain who you’d send down / trade / etc. It’s ok to complain but not if you can’t offer a solution.

  57. G-Man says:

    Not 1 game and JM thrown under the bus- love HIO- the most negative views spewed by fans anywhere. :)

  58. Mark C says:

    After tomorrow’s game in TO, Darche becomes the 13th forward. Would you rather White get 20 minutes a game in the AHL or sit in NHL press boxes around the league?

    How could keeping Darche around lead to losing White? White isn’t wavier eligible this season. White is likely to be the first forward recalled. He will play in a lot of NHL games this season.


  59. Storm Man says:

    Moen will have a new nickname after Thursday. Everlast as he will be the Habs punching bag. JM good call buddy your in great form.

  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m not even sure what you’re trying to say, Cammalleri got  mad that Ryan White was getting sent down so he slashed Nieddereiter? The team has 13 forwards (Darche being 13th man) signed to 1-way deals and the bottom-6 forwards Boyd, Lapierre, Pyatt, Halpern, Moen and Eller are a pretty solid group and far better than what we had to kick off last season. White shouldn’t sit in the press box, he should be playing in Hamilton getting better so when injuries strike we have a sharp prospect coming up to fill in and not a guy who was sitting on his *** in the press box.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  61. Lazarus_taxa says:

    I agree that White should be on the team, but I don’t think that it is the right time to get rid of players on one way contracts.  If we put Darche or Halpern on waivers (we don’t have enough cap space or roster spots to keep everyone) we lose depth.  I can’t remember a time when we have had this much depth.  Halpern is a veteran, it will be his job to lose, but he deserves a chance to prove his worth.  I don’t think pre-season is that chance.  If he plays like you say he will,  we should see some movement to get White up here.  But who knows, I’m sure PG has something up his sleeve that we were not expecting…..


    I also agree about Weber.  I think we will see him in a trade this year.  He’s shown flashes, but at this point, with our current blueline, I think he would be better elsewhere where he can get more NHL time.  I don’t think you could have 2 offensive D’s trying to learn the NHL on our roster.  

  62. adamkennelly says:

    this pisses me off…JM doesn’t realize what year it is…White gets sent down, no prospects make the team cept for Eller who HAD to get a spot…once again JM thinks he is coaching in Europe..guess the Cammy incident didn’t teach our management anything…


    P.S.  AK and BP on the 2nd PP unit should be comical..higher chance of getting a shorty against than actually scoring…

  63. derfab says:

    That second “wave” looks like bath water. I guess we’ll have to win 5 on 5.

    Though keeping Darche around has some sort of limited merit and justification, it could very well lead to the loss of a real nhl prospect like White.

  64. SeriousFan09 says:

    I never said anything about Weber making the team, I might have said he could to make the team provided he continues to develop but he did not over the 09-10 season as Subban bumped out of top position in Hamilton and Weber didn’t improve his defensive game in his lesser role.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  65. HabsMitch says:

    White will have his chance

  66. RetroMikey says:

    Yup and your analysis of Weber making the team was to a tee as well.

    By the way, don’t be surprised if Subban is sent down back to my hometown this season.

    And O’Byrne, I said it several years ago, a work in progress, he won’t be in Montreal much longer.

    Keep those compliments coming.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  67. Mark C says:

    Halpern hasn’t had a season with more 40 PIMs since 2006-2007, don’t think we need to be too worried.

  68. Timo says:

    He is just getting warmed up. The best is yet to come.

  69. Storm Man says:

    Im glad to see that JM is in midseason form……………… Bartender I will have what she is having but make it a double.

  70. SeriousFan09 says:

    Definite-miss prospect according to RetroMikey on his signing last year: P.K. Subban!

    Keep up the sharp scouting.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  71. andrewberkshire says:

    His career is over at 22? Come on Mike, most defensemen don’t make the NHL at that age, he’s not Doughty.

  72. Mark C says:

    Yup, he’s done. It’s sad too, because he just turned 22 a few weeks ago. However in today’s NHL if you can’t crack the bigs by 22 years old, you’ll never make it.

  73. sidhu says:

    This is bullcrap —

    White played well enough to earn a spot.   Henry was also very good.  They both have grit and stand up for their teammates.   If they both continue to perform, maybe the brass will create room for them.  Or, at least they will be the first callups.

    Weber, as someone else said, may be best developing elsewhere.  Both him and Carle have not impressed the last couple of camps.

    A note about Halpern.  I’ve seen Halpern play many games in DC and he’s from my home town.  Let me assure you, he will take many hooking and holding penalties that will drive you crazy.  He may have leadership skills, he may be a PK’er with a right shot who can take faceoffs.  But he belongs in the old NHL where you could clutch and grab ’till the cows come home.  He had a decent camp, but be warned.  I bring this all up to say, that spot he holds should be White’s, who can also PK and is a right shot. 

    Let me say this for Boone, if White’s name was Latendresse, he’d be in Montreal.

  74. CBrady12 says:

    What is all this about Henry…The guy has played 2 NHL games in the last 4 years…all of a sudden hes an NHL d-man…dont think so

  75. RetroMikey says:

    Weber’s days are over with in Montreal.

    Another can’t miss prospect labelled by the media and fans and now  a disappointing prospect like the others we’ve had over the years.

    Few make it in the NHL, very few.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  76. STZA says:

    There’s always next year for the kids. 

  77. zaq007 says:

    Was really rooting for White


  78. Timo says:

    Too much grit. Can’t have that.

  79. nickster13 says:

    seriously me too, he actually showed something special

  80. petrov14 says:


    Magic Moment: Tomas Plekanec knows how important it can be to go the extra mile for the Canadiens’ youngest fans. In addition to signing autographs everyday during the 3-day Clermont training camp, the Habs’ center took the time to visit with one very special boy and help create a memory that will last forever. Eleven-year-old Louka’s dream came true when his favourite hockey player, No.14, stopped by to say hello.

    “It’s the greatest thing we can do as players. I was extremely happy to get to meet him, shake his hand and sign his jersey and stick. It was incredible,” said Plekanec after his meeting with the young leukemia patient. The visit was set up by the Children’s Make a Wish Foundation. “Hearing him personally tell me that I was his favorite player was an indescribable experience. I’m thrilled he’ll be able to come see one of our games, and I hope it’ll be a great night for him.”

    I love hearing these types of stories.

    ______________________________________ Gionta IS Captain.

  81. avatar_58 says:

    Awesome. :)

  82. krob1000 says:

    Ryan sent down…..this isn’t White…not White at all….he was the guy who had probably the best camp relative to expectations coming in.  All about contract status in the cap driven NHL though….one way vs two way…oh well….he’ll be a Hab soon enough but we could really use a stand up guy like him in the lineup….especially agaisnt TO.

  83. habs03 says:

    White was sent down because of Pyatt, not Darche, whenever everything is set, Darche is going to be in the pressbox every game, I rather have Darche in the pressbox then White, so it was down to either Pyatt or White, I like White more, but Pyatt is our best defesive forward after Pleck.

  84. andrewberkshire says:

    I agree with this 100%, but I’m still disappointed that White isn’t in the lineup against the Leafs.

  85. avatar_58 says:

    Exactly. I blame the Halpern/Boyd signings. They didn’t expect White to have such a good pre-season, but honestly as a Bulldogs fan I saw it a mile away. Maybe they should stop signing UFA’s that take rookie jobs…

  86. Corio says:

    Feel bad for White, he really showed his stuff this camp!  

  87. BJ says:

    I sort of wonder if Gauthier and Martin know they are respectively GM and coach in the NHL? They perhaps think they are in a woman’s broomball league. Henry and White should both be in Toronto.

  88. avatar_58 says:

    As expected. They didn’t have any free spots, is this a surprise to anyone? People keep forgetting they signed Halpern and Boyd – the only possible available spots. Pyatt was a lock, Darche is the 13th bench warmer and they aren’t trading Moen or Lapierre.

    So unless the NHL breaks some rules and lets the habs ice more players, White never stood a chance of cracking the lineup.

    It doesn’t matter because he’ll be back. Once injuries start, a trade happens or the next year comes – he’ll be back.

  89. Timo says:

    then why bother with the training camp for these guys? just extra costs dragging them around from town to town, paying their hotel bills, meals, etc… giving false hope.

  90. wamsankas says:


    buutttt i wanted to get a tattoo of,

    Nos bras
    meurtris vous tendent le flambeau

     à vous toujours
    de le porter bien haut

    First of all is this a crazy idea? and second does anyone know a good place in montreal to go?


  91. HabFanSince72 says:

    A hockey themed tatoo is a great idea.


  92. andrewberkshire says:

    Sounds awesome. In Montreal you should go to adrenaline. Corner of Sherbrooke and Guy, excellent place, great artists, and they treat you very well. I actually just got a tattoo done there today.

  93. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ll 2nd that, I got mine done there on my 21st and next time I have more than 2 days back in MTL I’ll see about getting my CH tattoo.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  94. andrewberkshire says:

    Make sure you book in advance! Depending on the artist (I like Rob), it can take awhile before you get in. I had to wait a month for an appointment this time, but I have another appointment in 20 days.

  95. habaddict_andy says:

    Not necessarily Timo, they are most likely to be called up due to injury.  Then they can try and prove something in the big boys club.  The preseason help to determine who would be called up if need be.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  96. Timo says:

    … just to be sent back down as soon as the injured player returns, no matter how well they played. While I do hope that White will back brought up and stays with the club, I have very little hope it will happen.

  97. Mark C says:

    It happend with Pyatt last season, so it is within JM to call-up a rookie and have them stick with Montreal.

  98. avatar_58 says:

    But what do you suggest? Trade Halpern who just got here? Waive Boyd or something? There aren’t any spots and I’d rather see White play on Hamilton’s top lines than sit in the pressbox. I’m guess Martin feels the same. He’s stated he likes White, so it’s not like he doesn’t want him to stay.

    Leblanc and Tinordi played too, yet does anyone honestly think they’d skip right onto the team?

  99. Timo says:

    Would trading or waiving these two be such a big loss? And besides… I didn’t see a need to sign them to begin with.

  100. LA Loyalist says:

    This is a high class problem, guys, to have some decent bodies in waiting, compared to the last few years. Be patient, we’ll see lots of these guys. It’s a long year – and we may need to trade for a goalie before too long :)


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  101. avatar_58 says:

    Neither did I, but how is this Martin’s problem? He’s only icing the guys he was given. Boyd has NHL experience and therefore was a lock regardless of pre-season, and Halpern is a vet so he wasn’t being sent down. His hands were tied, with Pyatt and Eller vs White. Eller is a top-liner prospect, Pyatt is needed for defensive reasons. So……no room for White.

    Like I said – Guathier had no idea White would be good, so he covered his arse. No big deal, if one of those two don’t play well they can be replaced.

  102. habaddict_andy says:

    Next year?  Halpern’s contract will expire unless he’s traded at the dead line.  Darch the same case.  I would rather see White over Darch myself.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  103. SLONCOLD says:

    lol as long as you leave out players numbers and names lol

  104. avatar_58 says:

    I don’t know, I’d gladly get 33 😉

  105. Les-Habitants says:

    Souray shipped down to the AHL, but not Edmonton’s:  he’s being loaned to Hersey, the Captial’s farm team.



    If Souray were to hit re-entry waivers, do you think he could add value to Montreal?  The cap hit would be 2.7 million for this year and next

    My opinion is that, yah, I’d like him…and I think we could fit him (it’d be tight tho, someone correct me if I’m wrong).  He’s a great d-man, gives us 4 legitimate weapons on the PP and is as tough as nails, a good fighter, and I think he’d fit in well here. 

    So, if we do have the cap room, why not bring Souray back?

  106. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s a defensive sieve and has become more fragile with age. I’d rather look to solutions from other sources before looking at him, the Markov-Subban PP setup will do Montreal very well I believe. We want a PP bullet with weak defence, PG can sign MAB all over again.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  107. LA Loyalist says:

    I’d take a chance – I think he’s better defensively than MAB and he’s tough.

    The issue is fragility – as Serious legitimately points out, but if he passes the physical… we could have two good PP units. We wouldn’t be asking him to play 27 min a game.

    Yes it’s a risk, but it’s a half price risk and saves us from having to rush our kids. We all know how that usually works out.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  108. newbrunswick troy says:

    I know i like Souray better than Hamrlik….and Hamrlik is 5mil

  109. TripleX says:

    Souray at 2.7 million is a great deal.  He is exactly what we need, a tough guy who will make opposition forwards wary of crowding the net.  Plus he has a howitzer of a shot.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  110. RGM says:

    This question has inexplicably been asked nearly daily for the past week. Why don’t we look into bringing back Radek Bonk and the rest of the 05-06 retreads while we’re at it?

    Go Habs Go!

  111. Everlasting1 says:

    I fear we’ll be pining for his services come trade deadline. And for a legit top 6 forward as well.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  112. Robert L says:

    Ever wonder why 29 other teams have passed on him? Souray is fini. He’s damaged goods physically and detrimental to team spirit. The Oilers don’t even want his with their AHL club. That speaks very loudly.

    Souray was paid pretty handsomely for his one great season with the Habs, but in free agency, his value was overestimated. There’s a lesson in that.

  113. Les-Habitants says:

    I guess…although he only really had one bad year in Edmonton, and his injuries aren’t of the typical sort.  I mean, I don’t think you can blame him from breaking his fist on Iggy’s head.

    As for defensively, he hits and he can carry the puck well, and can defend, clear the net, and adds a whole lot of toughness and leadership.  Yes, he’s still not the best defensive guy, but I don’t think he’s a liability.

    I dunno, I think he would be a great fit.  That said, I looked into it and even if we sent Picard down, we’d have to clear another 1.4-1.5 mil in cap space.  So, it’s not a situation we can evenr really look into until later in the season

  114. SeriousFan09 says:

    I just like the team the Habs have and don’t want them to go back into digging up players who were involved with the fractured locker room of the past and another D getting on in years who hasn’t really become a more solid defender as his speed is leaving him and he’s not as tough anymore.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  115. Say Ash says:

    “I think he’s better defensively than MAB”

    Yes, but we got rid of MAB (sorry, Timo).

  116. Timo says:

    Go ahead, rub it in.

  117. WarHero says:

    I just bought my ticks for the Bulldogs game in Ottawa in November!! WooHoo!! Anyone else going?

    Hamilton Bulldogs
    Date/Time: Friday, November 26, 2010 at 7:30 pm
    Facility: Scotiabank Place

    AND ….

    London Knights
    Event Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    Facility: Ottawa 67’s
    Right on the glass for this one :)

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  118. newbrunswick troy says:

    not going …but do you know how the Dogs look this year…..New coach  and plenty of guys gone???

    New coach has big shoes to fill!!!!

  119. TripleX says:

    This just sucks for White.  Why did PG sign Darche And Halpern, leaving zero room for any young forwards to make the team?   So discouraging for the fans and for White.  He absolutely earned a spot on the fourth line.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  120. HabsFanMTL says:

    i totally agree with you, our young guns work thier tail’s off to get with the big club, then at last minute PG signs an oldie for face off insurance, the 3rd and fourth lines should be kept for our best young upcoming players like white

  121. Mark C says:

    Repost: For some perspective about the need of NHL forward depth. Last season Montreal had 19 forwards play in at least 10 games (this counts Benny and Gui as one).

  122. SeriousFan09 says:

    Better get out those walkers so Lapierre, Boyd, Pyatt and Eller can get around, what with their average age being about 23. Moen’s just 28 and Halpern in a healthy lineup is the only over-30 player in the checking lineup. Halpern’s needed to help take PK time off of Plek’s back and as a key faceoff player. But if Pleks can raise his faceoff stats this year (Pleks made big improvements to his game last year) than Halpern can go as he won’t be needed and White can get in with so many Centers available to play on the 4th.

    Darche is a guy the the Habs can sit in the box for most of the year and he won’t complain and it doesn’t hurt his development. White needs to be a guy who plays every night so playing 80 games in the Hammer this year beats 35-45 games being on/off with the Habs this year.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  123. linp says:

    Halpern has won me over during the pre-seaon games. He has a presence and knows where to go to be effective. But I agree that White is better than Darche and even Boyd.

  124. newbrunswick troy says:

    Everybody is so pissy about the cuts today>>>>i agree these kids all diserve a chance , but i,m equaly glad to see that the habs have that kind of depth….just a year ago or so.. these kids would have been our first power play unit!!!!!

  125. The Cat says:

    The kids got to have hope though.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  126. dufour says:

    I am looking to get a vintage Jean Beliveau jersey but am having trouble finding one. I checked ebay and there are a couple, but you never know what your getting with ebay until it arrives. Im going to the Nov 20th game, so if shipping was slow and I got a garbage jersey, not much time to return it and find a new one.Does anybody know a good place to llok? Does the Bell Center store sell vintage (not RBK edge) jerseys?

    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” Jacques Plante

  127. PrimeTime says:

    White had a real good camp but is a victim of the math and league and CBA rules. He’ll be back and likely before the end of the season.

    Souray is not the same player that left 3-4 years ago….couldnt crack the Oilers and ppl want him in MTL???



    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans

  128. The M says:

    I agree White should be on the team.

    But Darche is a player with little talent but he actually takes the puck to the net and he will score more than White.  I’d prefer White and he’ll be with this team shortly.

    And Halpern is needed for faceoffs and defence, the Habs are HORRIBLE at faceoffs.  Glad PG signed him.

  129. The Cat says:

    Same as in choosing Price over Halak and letting Moore go. This organization keeps sending the wrong message to its players.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  130. fbkj says:

    and you keep sending the wrong message to the people who post here

    plekanec was chosen over halak

  131. andrewberkshire says:

    Except that Price wasn’t chosen over Halak. Price and Plekanec were chosen over Halak and Ben Maxwell or whatever other plug the franchise would have found as a UFA.

  132. WarHero says:

    Not sure, haven’t seem them yet :) Team is pretty much the same if not beter then last year. I can’t wait!

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  133. SeriousFan09 says:

    New additions Alex Avtsin, Gabriel Dumont, Andreas Engqvist could add some solid offensive impact, plus new defencemen Brendon Nash could add on some useful size to their roster. I think they’ll have a pretty good year.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  134. HabsFanMTL says:

    woohooo 1 more sleep till game 1 of regular season go habs go!

  135. newbrunswick troy says:

    I was just reading TSN,s article that PRICE will miss opener..and sure enough the comments are pouring in about him having cold feet!!!

    I,m worried that this wirlwind of media scrutiny and pressure is going to ruin this kid forever!!!


  136. PrimeTime says:

    actually I think the opposition likes playing against him…..was overated b/c of his shot. Not even close to a Chara who has the hardest shot in the league and actually does make opposing forward wary.


    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans

  137. adamkennelly says:

    obviously the real problem is the signing of Darche – even with Halpern – this team could have kept White around – he may have found himself in the press box some nights but from what I saw – he would have played his way into our regular line-up.  Keeping Picard over Henry even temporarily is also a mistake

    I just don’t like the lack of toughness on this team considering the size and make up of our skilled forwards….you know who else doesn’t like it- Pleks, Cammy, Gio, Gomez and prolly the most- Travis Moen.




  138. punkster says:

    So we ship some kids back for seasoning and the armchair GMs can’t believe it? 22 year-old, wet behind the ears kids need more playing time and experience than they’ll ever get here up here. White, Weber and Maxwel should improve by getting ice time in Hamilton. Henry, well I doubt there’s enough ice time available anywhere to improve his hockey skills much.

    Lets give this roster a shot first before we bail and dump on the players and coaching staff. After all they, for the most part, got us to the 3rd round. (cue the inevitable Halak responders)

  139. HardHabits says:

    Unfortunately not everybody here is a bright light.

    They say look at teams like Detroit and New Jersey and that they should be examples to follow. Well?

    Like the more astute posters who say that it is a good thing to have depth I agree. The Bulldogs will be a powerhouse and it is in that type of an environment that winners are developed.

    Seems like people have already forgotten the lean years of 1994 to 2009 where there was no depth on the farm. IMHHO it’s sad that Subban has to start in Montreal and not spend some more time developing. Lats and Price were rushed yet everyone wants to rush, rush, rush. Get over it. Contenders are not built over night. Even Pittsburgh and Chicago had to tank miserably for 4-5 years before they started looking good, and as SF09 so astutely points out, they are flashes in the pan and already look like they are on the demise.

  140. Mattyleg says:

    I’m disappointed for Ryan White. He’s a great plugger, and he really showed his stripes in camp and the pre-season.

    It’s a long regular season, and there are plenty of opportunities for him to come up and fill spots and play his way onto the regular roster.

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed for him.

    And no, I don’t blame anyone for this. Decisions have to be made, and nobody here is ever happy anyway. We even had people complaining on here about Gionta being named captain.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  141. likehoy says:

    to SF09 regarding my post about darche.

    habs are only carrying 13 forwards, and not 14. as the 13th forward, white would see plenty of time as he could easily be substituted in to replace pyatt, boyd, moen and put a lot of pressure on lackadaisical players like pouliot and kostitsyn and would be the first forward to be called in in case of an injury. white would easily get 50-60 games in the NHL this year.

    keeping darche and white, white would be the 14th forward, which would result in white not playing any games at all. 

    60 games in the NHL in my opinion is worth more than 80 games in the AHL at this stage of white’s career. he’s shown last year he was very close to the NHL, and this year he appears to be ready.

    this just goes back to Jacques Martin and Gauthier’s love for the veterans. we signed jeff halpern late in the summer and that’s taking a roster spot away from players like white, pacioretty, maxwell…they also signed another veteran in alexandre picard instead of giving mathieu carle, or yannick weber a chance to step in while markov’s out.

    the worst issue of this is that these guys are signed to 1-way contracts which limit their flexibility since we’re paying them full price, it would be tough to move them around, whereas a player like weber or maxwell could be sent down after filling their role and we could rotate the young guys to give them experience, expose them to the NHL, and let them gain confidence and turn them into tradeable assets…instead now we’re stuck with veterans that have plateaued or are on their downside that have no foreseeable future in the organization, and burying young guys in the AHL with their value’s decreasing as they get older and are continually playing in the AHL

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  142. HFX-HabFan says:

    If anyone on the bottom six goes down, White should be the first guy called up.

  143. Slovak says:

    OK now seriously, how many of you believe in UFO and how many believe Price will survive this year in MTL?

  144. HardHabits says:

    If any of those players are truly NHL calibre they will work their way into the line up, either here or elsewhere.

    White is better off playing in Hamilton then sitting on the bench in Montreal.

  145. Danno says:

    I think you have a bad case of UFO – Unhappy Fan’s Opinion.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  146. 21BIGGionta says:

    wow really i work tomorrow from 5-11:30 !!! FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON AND I CANT EVEN WATCH IT!!!

    and dang i rly likes henry and white!

  147. 21BIGGionta says:

    ouuuuuuuuuuuuu zing.

  148. likehoy says:

    i wouldn’t think white would be sitting on the bench at any rate, he could easily out-play boyd…

    and white would probably get 50-60 games like i said. look at last year’s lineup, pacioretty had 52 games, sk 47, pyatt 42…and white would benefit from practicing day in and day out in the NHL and get a taste of what life is in the NHL.

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  149. amvanimere says:

    If the leafs allow a goal against that 2nd PP unit, their entire coaching staff should be fired on the spot.

  150. Danno says:

    24 hours 30 minutes and 25 seconds to go…


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  151. amvanimere says:

    Haha. That’s great.

    However, I assume that the whole “23 year old professional athlete in peak physical condition” thing will override the “occasional smoker” issue when dealing with the flu.

  152. andrewberkshire says:

    Why does that number just look like a sideways 8 to me?

  153. adam76 says:

    One would think – but here we are.  

  154. likehoy says:

    i wonder what kind of excuses will be said if price does indeed survive, and halak plays atrociously. 

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  155. Mark C says:

    Game experience is much more important than practicing and living the NHL life. White is likely the first call-up when there is an injury or underperformance. For the life of me I cannot see what all this whining is about. Montreal had 19 forwards play at least 10 games, they need players like White waiting in the AHL for a call-up.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if White gets 50+ games in the NHL this year.


  156. SeriousFan09 says:

    Carle and Weber weren’t ready to play the NHL, the pre-season showed that. Picard has played in it and is better than either of them for the job. Hence why they’re in Hamilton and Picard got signed because the team was unconvinced either of them could step up and they didn’t, they didn’t play well enough and this team isn’t here to give out participation awards to their rookies with NHL ice time if they can’t hack it. Those two aren’t good enough to be NHL defencemen. Pacioretty needs the AHL to develop his skills and Maxwell isn’t good enough for the Top-6 and that’s the kind of player he is, he’s not a checking line type and frankly, he’s looked too good in pre-season too often and never brought after that.

    If we have injuries, White’s on the next flight out of Hamilton but right now Darche is a good day to day replacement considering the team has a pretty sturdy group right now on the checking lines. For all we know, Pouliot will be dropped by December, Eller moves up in the lineup and White is on the team for the rest of the season. Halpern could have a back problem tommorow and be laid up for months. This is just the end of training camp and there are 82 games to decide what’s going on the roster. Can we stop acting like the team sent White to play in Alaska?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  157. SeriousFan09 says:

    Last year Pacioretty and SK had those GP because they were actually penciled as part of the 12 forwards until their performances put them out of the lineup or because JM didn’t have better options because of wastes of space like Laraque! We also had a lot of injury fill-in last season, hence those GP for bubble players. If injuries happen, you can bet White’s hopping a plane pretty soon.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  158. TommyB says:

    OK, now seriously….you need to get over it.  And by the way, the 80’s called.  They want their Sly Stallone back.

  159. Slovak says:

    Never saw UFO but saw Price play…:)

  160. adam76 says:

    Hard to say.  What cracks me up is the amount of wins all the HIO fans think Price will get.  The average predicted by HIO readers is 32 wins – how can a guy who only won 13 games last season be in line to win 30+?  

    I can’t understand the positivity.  Its illogical and unrealistic.  Yes, Montreal is a much better team – but 13 to 30+????

  161. LA Loyalist says:

    If Pouliot and Kostitsyn the Elder are Lactose-daisical then we have a very big problem and your boy will get plenty of ice time and opportunity while Monsieur Gauthier tries to get Glen Sather on the phone.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  162. fbkj says:

    hmmmmmm i guess your right if we lived in a world with ZERO nuances

    im not saying i dont understand where your comming from nor am i making any bold declarations of how many wins price is going to get but your question “how can a guy who only won 13 games last season be in line to win 30+?” if FAIRLY a loaded question

  163. SeriousFan09 says:

    Glen Sather only signs bad players, if we want to trade away bad players we need to ring up Darryl Sutter, I think AK + Pouliot for Iginla sounds fair.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  164. Keith says:

    I really feel bad for Ryan White, a character guy who did everything he possible could to make the team.

  165. samTHEman says:

    Teamu Selanne scored 76 goals in his career debut season. The year before that, he wasn’t in the NHL, so he scored ZERO NHL goals. Can you believe it? 0…and then 76.

  166. Storm Man says:

    Don’t burst a vain thinking about this matter.

  167. Mark C says:

    Maybe because Price will get more than 39 starts, no? You state Montreal is a better team this year. Montreal had 39 wins last year, so if their better that means at least 40 wins, right? Some goalie has to win those games, if Price starts most of the year on a 40 plus win team, how is it illogical and unrealistic that Price wins 80% of those 40 wins?

  168. observer says:

    Toronto favored over Habs tomorrow night – If bet $100 on Toronto to win $77 OR if bet on Montreal bet $100 to win $110.

  169. _koopy_ says:

    Here’s a video of a drunk Dion Phaneuf singing Billy Joel’s Piano Man. 

    Very entertaining

  170. TommyB says:

    Put your money to better use.  Bet on the Over/Under.  How many posters on Boone’s live blog will jump over the bridge the minute Toronto scores a goal, and how many posters will be under the influence of mind-altering substances by the 10-minute mark.

  171. Bill J says:

    Is it wrong that I kinda hope he does ?


  172. SeriousFan09 says:

    Okay, had enough of repeating myself all day on the same topics, I’ve got a Live draft for another Fantasy league at 10:30 and I need to do something besides say the same thing over and over.

    Bottom line: Injuries will happen, White is easily the 1st guy to get recalled from Hamilton, someone will inevitably disappoint or get dumped and that makes room for White as well. He wasn’t sent to the KHL, the Swiss League or a beer league in White Horse. He’s on our farm team (which is a strength for our organization now) and he could easily be a regular Hab by January. Training camp is a step, what you do after it is what really matters and if he keeps it up in Hamilton, he’ll wear #53 again in short order.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  173. Danno says:

    Yikes! Listened to only six seconds worth. That’s Phaneuf!


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  174. adam76 says:

    Would you like to explain why you think Price will go from 13 wins to 35?

  175. adam76 says:

    So right – last season Price was never given the chance to be a starter.  

  176. Bill J says:

    M-A Fleury in ’06-07 won 40 games

    next year he only won 19

    then the year after that he got 35 wins.

    Happens all the time, only you seem to have a problem grasping reality here.

  177. adam76 says:

    Loaded?  Why is that?

  178. fbkj says:

    straw man argument.; thats not what he said

  179. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS… while we wait for the clock to freakin’ speed UP already!!!!

    1. Playing TO: will their be fights? If yes, can we match TO physically with the team we have? 

    2. Which ONE player could make a big difference if he steps it up tomorrow?

    3. Ryan White.  Should there be a place for him in our line-up?  Or is it better to have a guy like that ready to step in?

    4. Who’s a bigger d$ck: Grabovski, Komiserik, or Phaneuf?  Discuss.

    5.What will the score be tomorrow?   First person to pick the right score (if there’s more than one) wins a prize! 



    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  180. adam76 says:

    How many roster changes has Montreal had from this season to the last (not counting Halak?).


  181. fbkj says:

    lets start with which team is going to show up in front of him?


  182. observer says:

    Point is the Leafs who many here on this site constantly call garbage are considered fairly heavy favorites by the oddsmakers because they think the Leafa are a better team than the Habs (at least with Cammaleri and Markov not playing AND Price playing).

  183. Chuck says:

    Step one would be to, oh, I don’t know… play him more.

  184. samTHEman says:

    What a bad move by Martin – keeping 33 year old Darche over a younger faster White. He would of been great on one of our checking lines. I like this kid. So much enthusiasm. Plays with fire in his eyes, something we haven’t seen in MTL for a while.


    Props JM!

  185. fbkj says:

    hey good on us price isnt playing then eh

  186. Bill J says:

    Why don’t you go look for yourself.

    The key roster changes, where good ones.  The only “questionable one” was the goaltender change, but after having seen Eller play, I am confident in the end it may prove to be the right decision long term.

    If you do not like it, that’s your opinion.  But do not come on here and try & preach your opinions as if they are the truth, while the rest of us are living an irrational fantasy about the talent level of the team we choose to cheer for.

    You are on the wrong end of the debate I believe.  Perhaps you should consider some self evaluation a bit.

  187. Chuck says:

    That pun was pun too many.

  188. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Moen might have a bout, not with Orr of course and maybe if OB wakes the hell up and remembers he’s supposed to be a hitter. Won’t match physically but the Habs aren’t designed to.

    2. Pouliot, if he does his job on the Gio/Gomez line it’ll provide the Habs with solid impact.

    3. There will be a space made sooner or later this season, but if the team goes relatively injury-free at forward for say two months and he only gets in 7 games, it’s kind of a disservice to him. If there are injuries yes call him up but it’s not good to just sit him and wait for something to happen when he can play for Hamilton.

    4. Phaneuf, borderline hitter.

    5. 4-2 Habs.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  189. TommyB says:

    Well you know what, I bet on sports often enough to know that the home team on opening night of a brand new season is going to get the nod as the favorite more often than the visiting team, regardless of who those teams are. But that really wasn’t the point of my comment.

  190. Mark C says:

    Doesn’t matter, the situation has vastly changed. If Price starts most of the year he’ll get 50-65 starts. If Montreal is at least a 40 win team, which you seem to agree with, then Price needs 60ish starts to get 32* wins. This assumes the winning % is the same for Price’s starts as it is for the back-up.

    * (40/82*65) = 32 wins

  191. solomio says:

    Why couldn’t JM see that we will need White and Henry against the Leafs.?

    We are going to get the snot pounded out of us.

    The Kessel / Versteeg and Bozak line will score 3 goals against Price.

    5 – 3 Toronto.

  192. adam76 says:

    1) one fight – Orr vs O’byrne

    2) Price – if he is “sick,” Laps

    3) White earned his way on this team.  Hard work and results does not matter to this franchise (If it did Moore would still be a hab).

    4)  Picking one of these three is tough. Its like Aids vs Cancer vs ALS – thay are all things ya don;t want in your life.

    5) 4 – 1 leafs


  193. Bryan says:

    1.  Yes there will be.  O’B or Moen will scrap with someone.  And no, beyond those two, we have no one.

    2.  Subbanator.

    3.  I’d rather have someone like Halpern who’s experienced in that role over White who had a good pre-season.  White will be called up sooner rather than later.

    4.  Grabo

    5.  5-2 Leafs.  I’m never optimistic about these games.




    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  194. Slovak says:

    :)) Sly escaped from 80’s and survived into the new century, now only UFO can bring him back. Fortunately it seems that it mostly lands in US so he has a pretty good chance… :)  

    btw do you know this…

  195. punkster says:

    1. No fights.

    2. AK

    3. He’s the next logical callup but the ice time in Hamilton will be his best bet for now.

    4. I don’t really want to be the one who has to measure them, do you?

    5. 4-2 Habs

  196. fbkj says:

    did you really put sick in quotes?

  197. Bill J says:

    So does this mean Markov smokes too ?

    Cuz he has the Flu as well…

    Perhaps you read into things, and pathetically enough took the time to research that smoking increases the odds of the Flu to try and prove some sort of point about Price.


  198. Chuck says:

    2 empty-net goals? That’s a pretty bold prediction!

  199. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    5-3? Pfft. Way too close.

    16-0 Leafs.

  200. 24moreCups says:

    So I’ve been reading this site pretty much everyday (multiple times haha) for years,

    Post comments every once in a blue moon but I’m so stoked for tomorrow I thought I’d answer some Smart Dog questions!


    1. I deffinetly think it’s going to be rough, hard playing game. Toronto is going to come out strong and try to make a point.

    There’s probably going to be a lot of pushs and shoves, and if there is going to be any fistacuffs I guess the only guys who could step up would O’B, Moen, Lappy(hopefully his boxing lessons help him out).

    2. Ak and Pouli for sure, Lappy and PK can make a difference. And my early favorite based on the pre-season Pleks!!

    3. I really like White he brought something the team needed toughness, grit and a hard nosed player who drives the net and score a goal every now and then.

    4. That’s a tuffy I’d have to say Burky, Wilson, Komi… basically the whole team. haha

    5. Hm I’m sure I don’t want to doubt T.O even though I hate ’em, 5-4 habs OT just cause we beat them last season first game OT haha(hopefully we beat them in regulation)

  201. scrowe21 says:

    Orr would KO O’Byrne..


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  202. scrowe21 says:

    Kulemin’s gunna get the other 2.


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  203. mike g says:

    1- Yes, Gionta will fight Kaberle.

    2- Gionta, if he steps up the ladder and magically becomes 6 feet tall.

    3- Isn’t it an alarming thing when we are spending so much time worrying about a 4th liner?

    4- They all have tiny pipi’s.

    5- I’ll predict powerplays. Montreal gets 3, Toronto get 5.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  204. iHeart Les Habitants says:

    1. Playing TO: will their be fights? I think so.  TO will want to rough us up and makes us an example for the season to come.  They’ll come at us hard.

    2. Which ONE player could make a big difference if he steps it up tomorrow? I think Eller steps up in lieu of Cammi.

    3. Ryan White.  Should there be a place for him in our line-up?  Or is it better to have a guy like that ready to step in?  I like White but I don’t think White he makes the difference between habs making the playoffs or not.

    4. Who’s a bigger d$ck: Grabovski, Komiserik, or Phaneuf?  I freakin’ hate Phaneuf.  He has d$ck written all over his style of play.

    5.What will the score be tomorrow? 4-2 Habs!

  205. adam76 says:

    So a full season of PK and  Eller at center somehow will allow Price to increase his wins by 63%?  I’m not talking about the future, I’M talking about this season.

    So you question my loyalty because I question this unrealistic jump?  

    Sad you can’t be a fan AND a realist in your narrow view of the world.

  206. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Haha great answer for no. 4 ahahah so true!

  207. The M says:

    I hope Price even plays…

  208. adam76 says:

    Same roster as last season, only three new faces.  So why will they be playing so much stronger/different?

    63% is unrealistic jump for a 4th year goalie.

  209. HFX-HabFan says:

    1- There, not their.  Come on, “smart” dog.  Moen will probably throw down with someone, but I doubt Orr will drop them from the other side.  Komi will probably try to wrestle someone to the ground but he still doesn’t know how to actually fight.

    2- Subban can be a game-changer.  Let’s hope he’s on tomorrow night.

    3- The signing of Halpern blocked White’s way to becoming our 12th forward.  He’ll be the first one called up if any of the bottom six guys go down though.

    4- Grabovski is just plain pansification personified.  Remember when the linesman threw him down, so he responded by giving a girly shove back, a “kick” across the ice, and then gave the Habs’ faithful a “V for victory” salute?  Plus, he looks like a girl.

    5- 4-3 Habs in OT.  I want to say Gorges will get the winner but that would last season all over again.  I’ll pick Pleks to get the winner.  Look for Subban to get 2 points.

  210. Chuck says:

    1. One fight, unless the game gets outta hand. If the Leafs are down by a couple of goals late, look for them to display their “truculence” as a way to save face with their fans in their home opener.

    2. I think that if AK can get his focus on, he could have the biggest breakout year of all the skaters. So I’ll go with him for tomorrow, too.

    3. He’s fine starting the year in Hamilton. The entire year in Hamilton probably wouldn’t be a bad thing for him. But my guess is that we see him taking a regular shift in Montreal before the year is out.

    4. Komi’s too nice… that’s his problem. Grabs? Probably a decent enough guy, but he get’s misunderstood in the translation. Phaneuf willingly accepted being captain of the Leafs after playing a couple of handfuls of games for them. He’s the biggest d!ck.

    5. 4-2, with the ENG to rub it in. Not sure which team will end up with the W, though.


  211. TommyB says:

    All good questions…..I’ll take a run at them.

    1.  Just one, and it probably won’t be pretty.  We’re not equipped for that, unfortunately.  I just hope it isn’t immediately following a cheap shot that puts one of our guys out of the lineup.

    2. If AK steps up (I know, a mighty big IF) it would be a huge help.

    3. Love to see White in the lineup, but  it is what it is, I guess.

    4. Better question:  Who has the smaller…..oops.  Can’t say that, can we?

    5. I wanna sayyyyyyyyyyy…….no, I won’t touch that one.

  212. habs001 says:

    till markov gets back we better score in the first part of the pp as the second unit point man are a joke…gorges was an absolute failure on the pp last year but martin insist on using him…he kept using him last year despite failure after failure..looks like he did not try a forward on the point again…

  213. fbkj says:

    but the win percentage is the team percen… oh nevermind youve been told this enough times

  214. fbkj says:

    really its not going to be the flames roster?

  215. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. I don’t think the Habs will dress any fighters. Fighting is completely irrelvant in today’s NHL.

    2. Gomez.

    3. White will be back.

    4. Grabovski plays for the Leafs. He’s the biggest dick. Oh wait, Komisarek also plays for the Leafs, he;s the biggest dicks. No waut, Phaneuf plays for the Leafs too. Yes, Phaneuf is the biggest dick.

    5. 5-4 Leafs in OT.

  216. Slovak says:

    I must say MTL has the best fans I have EVER seen – majority seem to “believe” no matter what – I just don’t know If that is a good or bad thing… but being positive is a good thing in general if not crossing the naive border. The problem is that in Price’s case there is a lot of naive thinking going on for a long time…

  217. ThirtyThree says:

    SD answers:


    1. No fights, but lots of rough play. TO rolls it cheap. The good guys better keep their heads up.

    2. AK – it’s game on, buddy boy.

    3. White should be in the lineup. It’s just the White thing to do.

    4. Phaneuf. And he’s the freakin CAPTAIN… Only in TO…

    5. 4 – 2 HABS.

  218. HabFanSince72 says:

    O’Byrne would be crazy to accept that challenge. Plus there’s no need. I’d like to see Lappy versus Grabovski though.


  219. obrien says:

    I would like AndreiK to be on the PP Point and also to play with Gomez/Gionta.

  220. fbkj says:

    so you are against not overreacting and not chasing players out of town with our out to lunch sense of entitlement?

  221. HabFanSince72 says:

    “Plays with fire in his eyes, something we haven’t seen in MTL for a while.”


    You must have missed the playoffs last year. Almost the whole freaking team played with fire in their eyes. You a Hab fan?


  222. adam76 says:

    Your kidding, right?   

  223. Hagar says:

    1) Yes. I’ve counted at least 2 viking warriors in our lineup. If they go berserker on the leafs we should be able to hold our own. 2) Benny. He’s made of all kinds of dangerous. 3) Would’ve had him in but doesn’t really matter since he’ll likely be the first forward called up. 4) After everything, definitely Komi. 5) 3-2 us. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  224. LA Loyalist says:

    Boy, that would be interesting. How old is Iginla? And then there’s the cap math, which I will parse if I get 2 minutes.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  225. fbkj says:

    no im not

    its a team game and if you look at goal suppor…

    oh wait this has been told to you many times as well

  226. LA Loyalist says:

    Boy, it’s a good thing you’re not paranoid.

    There’s no need to insinu8 anything about Price. He does just fine all on his own.



    “Insert tagline here”

  227. larisalapointe says:

    ‘Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.’ 

  228. Chuck says:

    The Toronto sports radio station (Fan590) reported today that Markov might miss tomorrow’s game… because he has the flu.

    Don’t these guys do their research?

  229. JD_ says:

    Burkie bein’ interviewed on OTR right now. Not sure if this is a repeat or not.

    Landsberg, who I actually kinda enjoy, walkin’ a fine line between critic and sycophant.

    Burkie tryin’ to be relatively straightforward. Best question has Landsberg wonderin’ why Loaf fans should give a crap about their team; i.e., what does the team have to offer.

    Burkie’s one-word answer? Hope.


    Luv it.

  230. Slovak says:

    Stick to players who proved they can play in MTL… because when hockey is a religion everything is different and only some can handle it… the crazy atmosphere in town will never change and it shouldn’t anyway… that is why MTL is so unique…

  231. Chuck says:

    $54 million worth of hope. If I was going to spend that kind of money on hope, the local food bank, Salvation Army, World Vision and UNICEF would all be getting big slices of that pie.

  232. Hagar says:

    If I was JM (and I’m not though I like to pretend) I’d swap AK46 with Benny this year. That would make a more even distribution of scoring wingers on the top 2 lines since it’s unlikely that Benny will have a better year than AK46. We can’t switch Cammy with Gio because that would mean splitting up Scotty Gomez and Gio and that would be unthinkable. It’s their destiny to play together. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  233. fbkj says:

    adam i have an hp tm2, which has a capacitative screen with wacom support

    i am making myself laugh too hard at my own juvenile drawing im trying to make for you… to dumb down why a team will have an impact over a goaltenders win/loss stat… had to give up…:( which sucks cuz what i have in my head is pretty epic…

  234. Chuck says:

    People have such short-term memories. Price has proven that he can play in this environment.

  235. LA Loyalist says:

    one word: rodeo made him a man — crap, that’s 4 words.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  236. Bill J says:

    Either you meant this post for Adam…  And replied to me by mistake….


    You somehow did not get what Adam was insinuating.


  237. scrowe21 says:

    Benny plays LW, Andrei plays RW


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  238. fbkj says:

    really? tell me more this is all news?

  239. kmachabs27 says:

    1) No fights….only BGL can stand up to Orr like last years opener…..theres a slight chance Boyd or Moen will fight Armstrong.

    2) AK of course, possibly Eller, i like this kid.

    3)White will always be there, we know and he knows it, i think he willll be with us after christmas untill the playoffs.

    4)Komisarek sucks, hes not a dick, Phanuefs a great player i got nothing against him, and Grabovski is just ur basic princess cry baby so ill go with Grabo.

    5)Price will stand on his head like he did in last years opener, 3-2 habs.

  240. mike g says:


    Roy Halladay pitches a no hitter in his postseason debut.

    Walked only one batter, otherwise woulda been a perfect game.

    Esti ye bon lui…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  241. Chuck says:

    I suggest that you get over your case of the giggles and finish you piece of art, then use it as your avatar.

  242. solomio says:

    Come on guys what are you calls on the game tomorrow night?

    Thirty Three says 4-2 Habs

    I say 5-3 Leafs.


    Lets hear it.

  243. Chuck says:

    Count again.

  244. fbkj says:

    800 x 3800 pixels


    its a scroller :/

  245. Chuck says:

    He makes a strong case for being the best pitcher of his generation.

  246. JD_ says:

    Bit of a strange endin’.

    Burkie got up and started beltin’ out the theme song to the Mary Tyler Moore Show, began twirlin’, then took of his hat and tossed it in the air.

    Love is all around, no need to waste it
    You can have the town – why don’t you take it?
    You’re gonna make it after all
    You’re gonna…

    Then his voice cracked, he fell to the ground, curled into the fetal position, and started sobbin’ ‘n’ shakin’.

  247. fbkj says:



  248. Slovak says:

    The news is you are not doing it… you don’t stick to ones that can play here, do you?

  249. Chuck says:

    Yeah, but did the hat stay airborne?

  250. LA Loyalist says:

    that’s hilarious. Welcome to the world of statistics.




    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  251. mike g says:

    Well that depends on the generation…

    Alot of guys have been lights out in the past few years. Sabathia, Lee, Beckett, etc…

    But over the past 5-10 years, he’s surely been one of the top 3 pitchers in the league.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  252. LA Loyalist says:

    You think Auld is that good or Leafs are that bad?


    “Insert tagline here”

  253. Hagar says:

    Crap. There goes my good idea, lol. It would’ve been perfect and much needed too since Gomez is more of a pure playmaker then Pleks and relies on his wingers more. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  254. Mark C says:

    I hope Pedro Martinez is considered being from a different generation.

  255. fbkj says:

    i have my juha lind jersey that says your theory is bunk


  256. LA Loyalist says:

    Is that a trick question? Montreal doesn’t have any fighters — maybe Youpi.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  257. HardHabits says:

    6-5 Habs in regulation.

  258. Bill J says:

    Considering he said the Habs would lose to the Leafs 5-3, are you implying Auld would be good by allowing 5 goals ? or the Leafs so bad that even the Habs could score 3 against them ?

    And you call yourself a fan of this team ?


  259. HardHabits says:

    You all should be ashamed of yourselves knowing all this info about baseball. Baseball died when the Expos left Montreal. It doesn’t exist. It’s a crappy sport only notches above golf, which isn’t really a sport.

  260. PrimeTime says:

    and no one deserves it more…..class act and a real pro!


    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans

  261. Hagar says:

    How much would it really ruin these guys if they had to play a wing they’re unaccustomed to? Spacek plays the side he’s not used to on D.”It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  262. WestHab says:

    That second wave power play does not look too scarey does it? Pouliot and Eller look like the same guy so far to me with a bit of an atvantage to Eller. AK46 will have to make things happen and take the bull by the horn. He needs to be the leader on that squad.

  263. habs4ever2894 says:

    TSN predicts the Habs to finish in 9th, but then again who cares?

  264. Keith says:

    So the boobs at TSN have us ranking 9th and out of the playoffs. I hope they have to eat their words.

  265. ShangaDoo says:

    I would like to mark this as a milestone for me…first time answering SD 5 QUESTIONS. So here goes:

    1. Yes


    3. Though I believe he should be with us right now, we will see him this season. I have zero faith in Pouliot.

    4. None. D$ck is a compliment. And the fact that you`re saying that it`s big, is just way too much flattery.

    5. 4-2 Habs :)

  266. WestHab says:

    It’s best for the team that all the pundits put the Habs that far down. I prefer that.

  267. Keith says:

    Not to mention the poor guy’s (and gals) panhandling on the street. Hope doesn’t win hockey games. Sounds like Big-mouth Burke is grasping for the life-preserver.

  268. punkster says:

    Whoa! Strong words there about golf HH. You prepared to back this up, mano a mano, on the course?

  269. linp says:

    I only care about Holiday and not Halladay…

  270. habs001 says:

    one thing to remember is that becoming a very good team takes time ….the reality is that the habs over the reg season were a very average team and yes they had too many injuries but were also outplayed most nights and showed many areas of concern…without o/t wins we would have been below 500…in the playoffs our goaltending produced an unbelievable performance along with unbelievable scoring by camm and great support by gion…the d sacrificed their bodies along with many forwards…the way they played in the playoffs cannot be sustained over 82 games..i feel more confident for this team in the playoffs than in the regular season….lets enjoy the season with the knowledge we have some pretty bright prospects coming in the next few years and this team should get better every year…but if you look at the rosters of stanley cup winning teams even the most ardent hab fan has to admit this team right now is not close to any previous cup winners….

  271. RetroMikey says:

    1.  Hell yeah!  But our mighty Habs will take more stupid minor penalties resulting in PP goals for the much improve Leafs from last season.

    2.  Tyler Bozak of the Leafs.

    3. Ryan White is a heckuva player, if he was French Canadian, he would make the team.

    4.  Of the three, Komi takes the prize for jumping ship to the Leafs.

    5.  4-2 Leafs.


    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  272. HardHabits says:

    I’d prefer to lose at tennis then win at golf. Golf is like playing pool with walking. I mean you might as well be drinking beers while doing it.

  273. pmaraw says:

    tsn is predictable, especially bob mckenzie.

  274. pmaraw says:

    I certainly enjoy my beer while golfing

  275. Hagar says:

    Thank you. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  276. jimmy shaker says:

    The answer to that statement is MAB…..he would collect another 15+ goals this year and make the PP that much more dangerous.  I’d take him over Picard anyday!


  277. Keith says:

    Actually I find Bob MacKenzie to be the only objective one on the panel. The rest are ALL laff lovers.

  278. habs fan from stonyplain says:

    they did last year everyone had us dead last in the east and look what happened I have us winning the north east and now cammy will be on fire look out

  279. punkster says:

    You got a problem with beers and bogies? Come on dude, man up. You, me and a good walk spoiled as Mark Twain said.

    (PS…I play like crap at the best of times so you do have a chance you know)

  280. pmaraw says:

    I’m not taking anything away from bob, but I predicted all his playoff picks last year for every round except the 1st on twitter before he made them public

  281. habs fan from stonyplain says:

    we win 5-1 our captain with two goals

  282. Chuck says:

    The BEST sports are the ones that allow you to drink while participating.  :)

  283. showey47 says:

    I agree,i’ve always liked mackenzie. He is the only one on tsn who doens’t sound like he is on the mlse payroll. I’d like to see him join the nhl network. Unless he enjoys being a big fish in a pond full of guppies.

  284. HardHabits says:

    I too feel more confident for this team in the playoffs than in the regular season but I am not writing off their regular season yet. 😉

    I also felt the same about the type of play they willed themselves to in the playoffs versus how they actually can play all year.

    Last season though, they were better on the power play in the second half than the first, so in effect their power play was much higher during the 2nd half than the final number suggests. I seriously think the Habs will live or die by their PP and PK, not unlike that Conference leading team of a few seasons ago, the difference being that this team, as both you, I and possibly others believe, will not wilt in the playoffs as that 2007-2008 team did. Going deep in the playoffs though is hardest grind in sports, and we witnessed last years team come short against Philly, again!! The funny thing is Philly hasn’t won the Cup since the Habs beat them in ’76 although they’ve been to the dance 4 times since.

    I still think the contender time will come closer to 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 but anything can happen once a team makes the playoffs. The team last season showed a camaraderie, a cohesiveness, an esprit de corps that has been missing for I’d say like since Gainey retired and stepped down as captain.

  285. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Is it just me or has it been a while since Bugs has issued a CODE RED!

    Bugs, the Habs are playing the Leafs tomorrow and someone on this thread (solomio) has already predicted the Leafs to win 5-3…

    Slackin’ too much me thinks

  286. HardHabits says:

    OK. I’m in. I’ll play your game. I could use a good walk and a few beers wont hurt either. But don’t be calling it no sport.

    This isn’t duck hunting or fishing.

  287. scrowe21 says:

    Well theres a lot of question marks around both of them this year,  I dont think changing their position will help much lol.


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  288. showey47 says:

    If odds makers guaranteed winners i would be a multi-millionaire. Would you also show some odds from a reputable site that shows the leafs being a “heavy favourite”?

  289. Chuck says:

    If hunting was a sport, they’d arm the ducks.

  290. jimmy shaker says:

    nope, just shaker!

  291. habs fan from stonyplain says:

    also mr. solomio maybe you are on the wrong site maybe try leafs nation or what ever crap site that those dope smoking fans go on

  292. HardHabits says:

    Is it just me or did Spacek and Hamrlik play on the top pairing for most of the seaon while Markov was out?

    How is the following not good then?




    otherwise its:








  293. HardHabits says:

    I’d watch that!!! Heck, I’d pay to see that.

  294. habs001 says:

    i agree with your comments…now on a positive note i believe the teams in our division are not that much better than we are if at all winning the division can happen and it may not need as many points as usually…barring injuries the main players will produce on the team…but the key for offensive success will be pouliot and ak46…if they can score 25 goals each that would make a huge difference and the reg season would be much less of a struggle as also i believe our bottom 6 will be much better in  production than last year… concern is still d depth as injuries will occur and can auld play 30 games as i believe it is too much for price to play 60 games and what if he gets even a minor injury andt misses 8-10 games in a row

  295. WestHab says:

    No doubt that MAB was a threat on the PP but I did like what I saw from Picard defensively in the preseason.  Obviously when Marki gets back the pp will have many more options. At that point MAB would have been redundant with PK around.

  296. Da Hema says:

    That rabbit abandoned his post!!


    Nigel Tufnel: It really puts perspective in things, doesn’t it?

    David St. Hubbins: Oh, too much. Too much fu*king perspective.

    –This is Spinal Tap

  297. LA Loyalist says:

    Just checking if you’re online :) 

    Both, actually.

    I’m a fan of the tradition of excellence represented by Montreal Canadiens – which is manifested afresh each year by the new and gradual (sometimes less gradual) transition in varying degrees. Some stuff about passing the torch.

    How’s that?

    Of course I’m not judge and jury, but when you or I feel that management or players don’t fulfill that tradition, particularly through lack of effort or caring or poor judgement, then they are open to criticism.

    Being a fan doesn’t mean being a blind zombie like Leaf fans.

    The most important thing is to build a winning culture, where winning is the expected standard. Not, oh it’s ok to loose in the pre-season, it’s ok to limp into the playoffs and get a couple of extra gates, that should be enough, we’re better than half the teams in the league.

    Not good enough. Not here.

    I can be wrong. I was totally wrong about Hal Gill, I thought he was a freaking pylon. But he turned it on when it mattered and that’s what it’s all about.

    I was wrong about Carbo and Gainey, I cried when we got them I was so happy – I’m telling you g*ds truth. I thought we had been in the wilderness a long time ten years ago. And now it’s ten years later.

    I hope I’m wrong about Price. But his comment about not winning the cup in the pre-season really bothers me, after what he’s been through I was hoping he would come into camp on fire.

    All I can tell you is my 7 year is playing on a team for the first time. He HATES to lose. He fights for every inch on the ice. His hero is Saku Koivu, which is all I need to tell you.

    If his attitude was like Carey Price I don’t know what I’d do. I hear soccer is good exercise for kids.

    If it’s not too soon to start winning for a 7 year old, it’s not too soon for Carey Price.

    So you can say I’m not a fan, but I bleed bleu, blanc, rouge and so do most of the other guys on here who dare speak up against the party line.

    “Insert tagline here.”

  298. Chuck says:

    Hahaha, yes… make it a pay-per-view to watch a duck go Dick Cheney all over some poor rube’s ass.  :)

  299. WestHab says:

    I like Bob. ..and They had Matthew Barnaby on the other night where he addmitted being a Habs fans growing up and would have loved to play in Montreal.

  300. HardHabits says:

    The division title is within the reach of this team for sure. I think Buffalo will be the biggest obstacle and if the Habs can own Boston at best split with TO and beat Ottawa it could happen. Winning games in the division is huge.

    I’ll add Eller to that list of hopeful point getters as he should see some quality PP time.

    A healthy Markov and Hamrlik with an NHL capable O’Bryne would make for a very decent defensive unit but injuries and illnesses quickly expose holes there. Depends what the farm can muster to really see if there is any depth on D within the organization.

    Goaltending is the big question mark. If Price puts in a winning record in 50 games like 30-20 the Habs are styling. The reverse means lottery time with Auld in support, but if that scenario happens and Auld has a winning record there’s going to be one hell of s— storm.

    Well, if we Habs fans can’t be involved in a great season and playoff run at least we have all the drama a lack of involvement will produce.

  301. says:

    Lat year they had the Leafs ahead of us too.  Their show is all about ratings and pleasing Leafs Nation.

    They Call Me Shane

  302. says:

    BM is the only one who knows what he’s talking about.

    They Call Me Shane

  303. solomio says:

    Relax Ed I’ve been a Habs fan waaaaay longer than you however I prefer to be realistic.

    I have already predicted that the Habs will get off to a slow start and will have difficulty winning any of their first 8 games.

    Leafs at home, opening night, Habs with a depleted line up ( already ), Auld in nets,perhaps…I see no reason for optimism but I’ll be happy as hell if we beat them…I just think we won’t.

  304. RiverviewCanadien says:

    and the other 3  from Pleks…I am good with those results.

  305. 24moreCups says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing O’Byrne play beside Markov for a while because it could teach him a thing or two(plus it worked for Komi lol),

    And it would add some toughness to the first defensive parings and give Markov some room to do his things plus any mistake O’B makes Markov could fix.

    I don’t think it would be a perminate thing but might be worth a try.

  306. Timo says:

    MAB cannot and will not ever be replaced. There is nobody out there who has same level of awesomeness MAB has in his little pinky

  307. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well I guess I’ve been using my whole brain way longer than you have since I know the “I’ve been a fan longer” is a crappy way to argue you’re right.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  308. pmaraw says:

    no….  im pretty sure i’ve seen mab bumble away entire pp’s cause he cant recieve a pass

  309. Les-Habitants says:

    Souray had 23 goals and 53 points in 08/09….09/10 was bad after he broke his hand, but I really don’t see how you can make the grand claim that he is finished…in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if his future play made you eat your own words.

    And to recap:  the reason he was passed on was his 5.4 million dollar cap hit.  Is he over-paid?  Most likely.  But at 2.7 million, I can guarantee you someone would pick him up.

  310. HabFab says:

    Hope to see you around here more.

  311. HardHabits says:

    I was happy when he left with his -28. I wouldn’t want him back now either at any price. He’s done

  312. HardHabits says:

    It’s like adults explaining the simplest stuff to children here sometimes. SF09 being the parent and 3X being the child.

  313. RJB says:

    HH I agree, as much as I love Subban and want him to be great this year, I am afraid that we are rushing him. But I’m hoping that I’m wrong, and he’s ready for prime time

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  314. Chuck says:

    I agree about Subban. I’d like to see him play at least the majority of the year in Hamilton, but what are you going to do? Play Henry on the big club to eat up some minutes while PK gets his seasoning minutes down on the farm? It’s obvious that they want the most talented guy on the big club and they feel that he has the maturity to handle it.

    I just hope that the fans cut him some slack when he hits those inevitable bumps in the road. Y’know, like they haven’t done with Carey.

  315. punkster says:

    We said it last year during the summit, HH. Remember, in Hurley’s? 2 to 3 years before we have a real contender. And that wasn’t the beer talking.

  316. dleb84 says:

    1. Playing TO: will their be fights?   

    Moen and OB, obviously.   Who else can fight?    Oh yeah, Lapierre too. 

    2. Which ONE player could make a big difference if he steps it up tomorrow?

    A K!!  AK!!  That’s how many we need.

    3. Ryan White.  Should there be a place for him in our line-up?  Or is it better to have a guy like that ready to step in?

    Yes.  Depth is good but I still like White over Darche & Halpern.  He has that edge we need.

    4. Who’s a bigger d$ck: Grabovski, Komiserik, or Phaneuf?  Discuss.

    Grabovski for that Bell Centre scene, Phanuef, then Komi. 

    5.What will the score be tomorrow?   First person to pick the right score (if there’s more than one) wins a prize! 

    Price-  4-3 Habs

    Auld- 5-4 Habs OT

  317. Chuck says:

    For better or for worse, after tonight, it all counts for the next 215 days. What will we have to say on day 216? 

  318. Anonymous says:

    Toronto sucks, what’s up in net?. It never changes

  319. HabsMitch says:

    Picked up Pleky in my pool, heres hoping for a great year!

  320. scrowe21 says:

    Same, I got Pleks and PK in for this week.


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  321. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Good choice.

    EDIT: actually great choice, Pleks is a very good hockey player.

  322. Timo says:

    I have had him in my pool for the past 3 years… always a decent 2nd or 3rd round pick up (depending on number of people) and good for about 60 or so points.

  323. HabsFanMTL says:

    i say put cammi gomez gionta together again and keep them there they are sure to explode with offense. then i’d have eller pleks ak on line 2, then i’d have moen lapierre pouliot line 3, then pyatt darche and whoever on fourth, yes go habs go

  324. Anonymous says:

    That’s how we started last year.

  325. Bill says:

    So Price has the flu, probably won’t play against the Leafs, look out sports fans, could be a long night.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  326. Timo says:

    Why is it every time somebody talks about Price’s flu I get a little Joe Pesci monologue from My Cousin Vinny in my head: “The town doesn’t have one hour dry cleaning so I had to get a new suit. Except that the only store where you can get a suit got the flu. You hit that? The entire store got the flu!” 

    Man, always cracks me up.

  327. habinypsi says:

    Habs Alum vs Wings Alum on FSN-D habs losing 5-3 with 12 left in the 3rd

  328. habinypsi says:

    Momesso scored 2, 5-5 tie

  329. Puck Bard says:

    I say the Habs lose to the Leafs tomorrow. Don’t mean I’m down on the team (or that the Leafs aren’t suck-ass)… just a combination of nerves, line-ups, and adrenaline. We’ll make it up. 

  330. HardHabits says:

    How many more sleeps PB?

  331. habinypsi says:

    I got that feeling to, I realized the other day that the leafs are like Philly only the Leafs dirty players are not as talented as Phillies.

  332. pmaraw says:

    I think our ECF team wins the nerves.

  333. Leafy says:

    1. Playing TO: will their be fights?   

    Habs have no heavyweights, but might see some middleweight bouts:  Mike Brown vs. Moen
    2. Which ONE player could make a big difference if he steps it up tomorrow?

    J.S. Giguere

    3. Ryan White.  Should there be a place for him in our line-up?  Or is it better to have a guy like that ready to step in?

    Habs need Ryan White and his two little sisters in their lineup for extra grit.

    4. Who’s a bigger d$ck: Grabovski, Komiserik, or Phaneuf?  Discuss.

    Phaneuf is the captain and is known to have a massive unit.

    5.What will the score be tomorrow?   First person to pick the right score (if there’s more than one) wins a prize! 

    5-2 Leafs.

  334. habsfreak13 says:

    4-3 habs. you’ll see.

  335. Chuck says:

    Thanks for your opinion, Wendy.

  336. punkster says:

    Nice of you to drop by. You’re quite welcome to drop by any time. We’re open right through May 24 weekend and hopefully beyond. A bit longer than the Leaf season.

  337. Puck Bard says:

    Thanks for showin’ up, you dinosaur. 

  338. Puck Bard says:

    Exactly… we can cry all we want about the Leafs. The fact is, they always play us hard, and they always pretty much split the season. 

  339. Everlasting1 says:

    Yes, we haven’t exactly owned the Leafs in recent memory.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  340. habinypsi says:

    Mark Napier scores in OT Habs win 6-5

  341. pmaraw says:

    thanks, that made me smile 😀

  342. pmaraw says:

    at the start of every season, anyone can be optimistic

  343. HardHabits says:

    your excellent post got deleted, even Timo got re-instated

    you don’t want to re-live the Richard Riots all over again now do you PB?

  344. Leafy says:

    I’ll be back tomorrow night after the game (win or lose) for some sweet smack talk, show y’all how it’s done.

    “Unapologetically nostalgic for the past. Brutally realistic about the present. Grudgingly optimistic about the future.”

    Down Goes Brown

  345. Timo says:

    Hey, don’t drag me into this. I don’t want to be associated with the troublemakers like PB :)

  346. Puck Bard says:

    Timo, you and HH are two of the only reasons I keep coming back to this site. Don’t make me come after you. 

  347. HardHabits says:

    yeah well Timo kicked both our asses handily last season

  348. Puck Bard says:

    Indeed he did. Something to aspire to. Do we owe him a beer?

  349. Everlasting1 says:

    My size up heading into game 1 at the ACC..Auld/Giguere? Giguere. Offense? A draw without Cammy in the line-up. Defense? The edge to the Leafs with Phaneuf/Kaberle and no Markov/Hamr. Special teams? A crap shoot with pp goals.

    Crap shoot prediction: 4-3 or 3-2 Leafs with or w/o OT


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  350. SeriousFan09 says:

    *Chuckles at Offensive comparison*

    Kessel and Versteeg are their only real Top-6 players. Plekanec, Gomez and Gionta give 3, plus Eller’s had a solid camp, not to mention AK’s in a contract year and even Pouliot showed some life at the end. Habs can throw two lines of scorers at the Leafs, they can’t.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  351. Bugs says:

    Edge to the leafs???

    We have a Code Red Alert! Infidel leaf under the wire! This is not a drill! Code Red! Enemy leaf on the grounds! Full-Sector Search Protocol activated! All Partisans to comply with Officers of the Flannel! Code Red Emergency! Nemesis leaf has bypassed defences! Sanitization Protocol activated! Code Red Alert! Immediate Retrieval and Removal Priority One! Code Red! This is not a drill! Alert, Alert, Alert! Jealous leaf through the Gate! Purification Protocol activated! You have 2 minutes to reach Minimal Safe Distance before leaf-burning napalm bombing-run commences! This is a Code Red!
    1:58, 1:57, 1:56…

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  352. Xtrahabsfan says:

    If I was Carey Price I’d clame the flu too  and WOULD NOT PLAY!….This game is going to go  south fast and Price is to fragile for a beating and not at the first game o year….

  353. pmaraw says:

    i’d clam the flue also

  354. Timo says:

    Dude, with all due respect, but if this were really the case, he has no business being in the NHL period. Hell, he has no business playing anything other the beer league hockey. 

  355. observer says:

    flu? yeah right!!!!!!!!!!! gauthier already sending out excuses for price and for trading away the only goalie they could win with. looks like gauthier thinks tomorrow is a sure loss.

  356. joeybarrie says:


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  357. Timo says:

    The entire movie is just a classic. Every line from it is a gem.

  358. Everlasting1 says:

    That Pesci jail cell conversation cracked me up :-)


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  359. Everlasting1 says:

    A true comedy classic. Bad(der) Santa is a close second :-)


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  360. pmaraw says:

    welcome back

  361. Bill says:

    You never know what to expect when the game is against Toronto. They have – excuse the term – shit for offence and what looks like a solid D. Yet more often than not the Habs and Leafs will play a 5-4 or 6-5 game. The Leafs should be an easy mark, but the Habs play down to their level at the best of times.

    The Habs will play this game without their number one goalie, number one forward, and number one defenseman, so I’m not optimistic, but again, you cannot predict a Habs-Leafs game.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  362. observer says:

    halladay pitches 2nd playoff no-hitter ever. i remember watching on tv the very first time halladay pitched for toronto late in the season on a sunday afternoon a no-hitter until one out in the 9th. they never made the playoffs in any of those years he was there. next year he was injured/up and down and when he finally returned he was outstanding the rest of his career there. jays should have insisted on getting either lee or happ NOT drabek in return when they traded him away.

  363. Bugs says:

    Spare us the excuses, Billy.

    The leafs don’t have a num1 goalie, num1 forward, num1 defenceman either , NOR any num2s for that matter.

    I predict an absolute crushing of their spirit and will AS WELL as a victory. You know, like last year’s first game, when  we didn’t have Halak, Marky, or Poolio playing either. Didn’t need’em. Don’t need’em now. Gimme a steel bucket and a fried egg and I’LL go in and beat the leafs, aw’ight?

    It’s the leafs, mate. Sinking their morale into the pits of despair is what we do. And we’ll do it again.

    Anything less is absolute failure, anything less is total surrender, anything less and we may as well all lie down and die.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  364. observer says:

    yeah right! terrible offense! who on the habs scored more goals than kessel who missed the first 2 months last year?

  365. observer says:

    do what again????????????? funny but the last 2 years all the habs could muster with the leafs was a split.

  366. SeriousFan09 says:

    Who do the Leafs have after Kessel? Nobody. Gionta and Cammalleri both missed more games than Kessel did last season (Gionta played 61 to Kessel’s 70 and Cammy had 65). Our top two goal scorers turned in fewer games than Kessel and still came close to matching him.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  367. pmaraw says:

    halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, who cares about the jays?  the raptors should’ve gotten something for bosh… but who cares?  the argo’s should…. ah who cares?

  368. Bugs says:

    Yeah, split the Conference in two.

    We’re over the line; they’re under it.

    That’s the way it works, the way it’s always worked. Been haloed by tradition and consecrated by time, so who are we to split hairs about it?

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  369. observer says:

    well i still follow aseball, we once had a team before toronto did. and that was only the 2nd no-hitter in post season history the other don larsen’s perfect game against the brooklyn dodgers in 1956. as for raptors – i dont watch baskets nor do i care about the argos and minor league football. i8 do think jays should have got more for him – and i am not a jays fan. just another bad gm following orders to reduce payroll. phillies used to be cheap as anyone and nowhere for years thyen a new ballpark and they spend on whyoever they can and look how well theyve done the last 4 years. something they never did for that long.

  370. HardHabits says:

    Phil Kessel 2009-2010 70 games played 30 goals score = 0.43 goals per game

    Brian Gionta 2009-2010  61 games played 28 goals score = 0.46 goals per game

    Mike Cammalleri 2009-2010  65 games played 26 goals score = 0.40 goals per game

    The difference is the Habs didn’t hand Boston a 2nd round draft pick in exchange by tanking the season. The Kessel trade is worse than the Roy trade. It’s the laughing stock trade of the century and the century aint even over. The Halak trade is 1000 times better than the Kessel trade. The Leafs got fleeced by their own GM!!!

    But as I was saying, the Habs have 2 scorers capable of having better goal production than Kessel and I would add Plekanec to that list who is a lock to have more points than Kessel. After Kessel, who do the Leafs have. Ha. Kessel. LMFAO. Try again.

  371. HardHabits says:

    yeah you follow assball aright

  372. JD_ says:

    The kinda thing that only matters to a Loafs fan.

    Beat the Habs.


    Time to raise the bar, dontcha think?

  373. observer says:

    i just dont understand it? why this hate for the leafs who have competed with the habs for nothing for about tyhe last 40 years? you all are going to slink away tomorrow night with your tail between your legs uttering excuses and diseases and refs and luck. the oddsmakers made toronto $1 to 77 cents favorites because they think tomorrow toronto is the better team.

  374. Puck Bard says:

    Sweet HH

  375. HardHabits says:

    No, no, no. Split the season with the Habs. What’s all this about beat?

  376. SeriousFan09 says:

    Why this praise for the Leafs? They’ve done little to address offensive depth besides adding Versteeg and have a team heavy on muscle but short on brains, a rather poor choice to build in the post-lockout NHL that requires quick thinking from your forwards and puck-movers.

    If the Habs lose tommorow night, it’s on them and I could care less what some 2-bit oddsmakers think while they try and bilk people out of money.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  377. idle says:

    Larry King said he is a big hockey fan and “”All my life I used to dream of going to the Forum and I never made it to the Forum.”


    Congrats to Roy Halliday

  378. observer says:

    lett kessel score 50 and we’ll see what is then said. if he does have a big year and the leafs do too that trade will be a success and burke will have in 2 years taken toronto from one of t6he worst to a decent playoff team which is what i think they will be because he has built an excellent defense. and i am neither a leafs fan or a burke fan. but burke is one zillion times sharper than what those 2 brains habs have used since 2003.

  379. Da Hema says:

    Our warrior-rabbit is back.


    Nigel Tufnel: It really puts perspective in things, doesn’t it?

    David St. Hubbins: Oh, too much. Too much fu*king perspective.

    –This is Spinal Tap

  380. Hagar says:

    I know if we win this game while 20 million dollars in merchandise is out of the lineup I’m gonna laugh so hard, I’ll wind up injuring myself. I really don’t care that much for the Leafs/Habs rivalry, but if we win this game, and I never post again, it’s because I died by choking on whatever munchies I was eating after cracking up over their loss. I like Brian Burke. If there’s a human bone in JM’s body he’ll tell the team to throw the game if and when we get up on them badly, lol. “It’s my goal to lead the league in 4 minute roughing things” -Scott Gomez

  381. observer says:

    not praising them or knocking them. they are an improving team and they added more parts. yes you couoldnt care less what some oddsmakers think but they make their living off being right not wrong and they obviously couldn’t care less about what some biased fan thinks – btw – put your money where your mouth is if you really believe what youre saying because they are giving you great odds if habs really are the better team.

  382. Bugs says:

    What kind of millionaire always wants to go somewhere but can never make it?

    Sounds like a load of patronizing hooey to me.

    Bet he made it to the ACC TONS’o’times though, eh? That hypocritical geriatric bastich, he makes me sick.

    Still…nice guy, I guess.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  383. SeriousFan09 says:

    This is plain delusional. Kessel hasn’t even scored 40 goals yet and now you’re saying he might get 50? He’s a 1-dimensional sniper and that’s it and having one sniper on your team with 50 goals doesn’t take you from 29th to playoffs no matter how good your defence is, you still need about 160 goals more to get to the dance and there aren’t 160 goals in that bunch.

    Gainey never shipped off lottery picks to a divisional rival because he was so incredibly arrogant he thought he had built a close to playoff team that wouldn’t fail. If Boston rules the divison because of Seguin, Knight and whoever their top pick in 2011 is, it’ll be known forever as Burke’s folly.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  384. SeriousFan09 says:

    He added Versteeg in the off-season, that’s it. That’s hardly impressive and considering the Habs already have an actual grouping of top-6 forwards than the Leafs are doing nothing but playing catch-up and they’re very slow at it. They can brag about their defence but Kaberle knows he’s not wanted in TO and Phaneuf has to try and turn his career around after two disappointing seasons. I don’t gamble either, it’s a fool’s errand that encourages gullible people to bet their money on chance when a thousand things can rob them in a moment.

    Boston with the additions of Seguin and Horton bother me, that’s a big shot in the arm of an offensively-challenged, but strongly defensive team from last season. Miller having another career year in Buffalo bothers me. Ottawa’s PP with Karlsson, Gonchar and Kovalev in his contract year bother me. Leafs bother me because so many people tell me that a 29th-ranked team is suddenly going to go neck-and-neck with the Habs when they don’t have the tools. Flyers offence/defence bothers me. Toronto in terms of Montreal’s overall success gives me little concern, we made two enemies in Washington and Pittsburgh last season and I imagine they’d like some revenge and will be taking the team more seriously from now on. A lot of teams could give MTL trouble that we can’t really afford to have but Toronto is not a team that’s actually concerning me except for their goons going for cheap shots on our players.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  385. punkster says:

    I was never sure prior to this but now I’m positive. His comments tonight confirm the obvious; Tony is a Leaf fan. All this professing sadness for the state of his beloved team, the constant, repetitive hating on PG, BG, JM, smurfs/midgets/tiny tots, it all makes sense to me now.

    This calls for Jimmy Cliff:

  386. JD_ says:

    Nope. Win or lose tomorrow, yer Loafs are still goin’ to be pretenders.

    Try to shift yer aspirations towards the playoffs or, dare say, even the Cup. See, this fixation on beatin’ the Habs has always been and remains a bit sad; you don’t get a plaque and there’s no parade.

    Heck, I couldn’t even tell you the Habs-Loafs win-loss for any season without lookin’ it up. That’s because it’s a meaningless stat. Always has been, always will be. No ribbons, not even an effin chicken dinner.

    It’s just more tears. The flowin’, salty tears of yet another failed Loaf season. The melancholic pain of hangin’ on to Darryl Sittler’s 10-pointer, huggin’ it closely like a teddy bear from yer childhood, one that brings back memories of mom and dad, hot cocoa by the fire, and Christmas presents all strewn about.

    Then, you open yer eyes, and reality comes crashin’ down like McSorley’s stick on Brashear’s exposed temple. You are beaten down once again by the realization that the Loaf cupboard is bare and the utter hopelessness, well, overwhelms.

    Spent, you set yer hopes low to the ground, prayin’ for a morsel like a win against the Habs.

    ‘Tis all for naught. The darkness always returns and takes over.


  387. Bugs says:

    Waitaminnit, waitaminnit, waitaminnit, this isn’t delusion over here, this isn’t trolling.

    This is an actual dyed-in-the-wool, true-blue leafer we got here!

    Notice the “2003” reference that allows his boy Burkie to take credit for accomplishments made ELSEWHERE than where he’s paid to accomplish things now. Notice the fabulations on the “future” that are meant to divert our attention away from the failure of the PRESENT. Notice the omissions of everything to do with actually BUILDING a winning team by not only skanking it up in his first year, but doing WORSE in the second, not to mention the UTTER SABOTAGE of their PREMIERE mining tool, that of the draft.

    Why do these leafers hang out here with us? A) Because they can’t lie to EACH OTHER without averting their gaze in shame, and B) same reason as always: vicarious living, baby.

    We love you, Obie, crazy talk and all!

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  388. Mark C says:

    Excellent defense? They gave up the second most goals in the league last year. What’s changed since then? And don’t say goaltending, because even in JS’ 15 games with the Leafs he didn’t put up better numbers than Price, who I am sure you don’t think is good.

  389. Mark C says:

    funny but the last 2 years all the habs could muster was making the playoffs, while the Leafs finished 24th and 29th.

  390. Bugs says:

    Inevitably, irrevocably, death’s cold grasp awaits as arthritic expectations buckle and the cobble-stones rush up to meet thee, long dead leaves thy only company.

    And that is good, sayeth we. 

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  391. oldrrty says:

    I am doing a pool and I have to pick from these two lists: pronger, gonchar, lidstrom, weber and kaberle


    edler, yandle, chara, phaneouf, enstrom


    as much as i hate  saying it i am thinking both kaberle and phaneof will make my list. it is a points pool and i think that pronger is hurt to start the season, gonchar gets hurt too much but lidstrom might work out if he doesnt get hurt


    any ideas?

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  392. HardHabits says:

    You effin’ crack me up.

  393. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d take Lidstrom, DET should have a solid year with less injuries to their stars and Lidstrom will be heading up a huge PP unit with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Holmstrom up front. I’d take Chara out of the 2nd I think, because of the Horton and Seguin additions, Chara should bounce back and BOS has a shot in the arm offensively. Keith should be good for at least 50 points as well.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  394. samTHEman says:

    keith green lidstrom weber pronger :)

  395. Everlasting1 says:

    That’s how I feel about the political system.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  396. oldrrty says:

    I have doughty, rafalski, subban, seabrook, johnson so far


    i do it mainly based on lines i have a lot of blackhawks so if one scores i generally get at least 2 more out of it. worked so far i won my pool last year


    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  397. avatar_58 says:

    Longest running leaf, never complains even when the trade nonsense was happening, excellent teammate, one of the KEY players the leafs need…..and no ‘A’? To me this would be like ripping the ‘A’ from Markov and giving it to Eller.


  398. samTHEman says:

    keith > doughty pointwise.

    subban is a gamble. wish markov wasnt injured!

  399. Bugs says:

    Are you implying that we should all expect better from such a super-classy, faithful and honourable organization like the leafs?

    Oh my gosh, that’s EXACTLY wht you’re implying, isn’t it?

    Oh, Avi…

    I will say good evening to you, sir.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  400. avatar_58 says:

    I don’t know what came over me. After the way they crapped on Sundin, fanbase AND staff, how on earth could I be surprised by disrespecting an ‘A’?

    Silly me

  401. samTHEman says:

    didn’t click the link. read only the few words and knew you must be talking about kaberle. i made a similar post a few days ago about this. it’s an insult. really, how does he not have an A? amazing…instead they bring in phaneuf and automatically give him the C. he’s absolute bone head.

    not only is kaberle their best defensemen…hes been there the longest. all the players on the leafs roster have changed team in the last year or two except for him….go leafs management go

  402. Bugs says:

    I took Gonchar, fersure. Feeding Alfie, Spezza and the Artiste on the PP? Oh, yeah.

    But I forget who the other one was; gave in my list today and didn’t make a copy.

    Kaberle and Phaneuf, who THEY gonna feed that isn’t tightly checked?

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  403. Clay4bc says:

    Really, it’s an understandable decision. Kaberle made it clear he has no plans to re-sign. Leafs are likely to try their best to trade him this season to get something for him. If it weren’t for that, I would think as you do.


    I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to make yourself look stupid.

  404. Clay4bc says:

    I’d also consider Chara in the second list. Good for 50 points or so every year.


    I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to make yourself look stupid.

  405. Clay4bc says:

    Them’s fightin’ words!


    I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to make yourself look stupid.

  406. Clay4bc says:

    I caught Jimmy Cliff at the Edmonton Folk Festival about a decade ago. He was fracking AMAZING live!


    I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to make yourself look stupid.

  407. Bugs says:

    A little message to Mr. Stu Hackey, if he ever gets the time; THIS is the type of leafer stuff we wanna read about, AW’IGHT? No one does leafer-love like TSN, so hearken.

    Stories about Prime Minister Puppet Plan tellin everyone who wants to hear what a great, great job Burkie’s doin as GM of the leafs, that’s the kinda stuff WE’RE talkin about. This guy Peddie awards his GM a Flying A+ of super-duperness and hey, that just puts a big smile on our faces. There’s nothing more delectable on this earth than listening to a grown man tell us right to our faces: – Of the seven GMs we’ve had in the 30 months I’ve been here, Burkie is by far the most visionary and the most efficient of the lot at building a great, great team of winners with his brilliant trading acumen and non-drafting techniques. And I know this stuff because I am a CONNAISSEUR of hockey…as we say on Wall Street, yes SIR. A+ for Burkie!

    Stuff like that, we could read all day, Stewie.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  408. samTHEman says:

    I’m curious to why Martin didn’t go with the top 2 lines as both PP units. Eller-Plek-AK and Poul-Gom-Gio…its balanced that way why mess with the chemistry? Besides, a powerplay comprised of Eller-AK-Pouliot seems set up for total failure…no puck control.

  409. habs001 says:

    Richard Peddie The Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment president and CEO gives high marks to burke…the only praise he should give is to the toronto lemmings(fans) who have paid year in and year out for some of the worst products in north america(leafs,raptors, toronto fc) offered by his company

  410. Jbird says:

    Blame it on Cammalleri because it won’t look like that on Saturday.

  411. Jbird says:

    Loser – he had time for nine wives but couldn’t go to the Forum?  Come on!

  412. Jbird says:

    Go Jays! 2011!

  413. observer says:

    peddie is a moron money grubbing businessman who knows nothing about hockey and under him this team reached it low this joke hired ferguson to follow orders. then this same guy came out and knocked molson for obviously firing the head of the gauthier snake here – pierre boivin. his thoughts are pure bs.

  414. showey47 says:

    Why do you always say kessel missed 2 months when it was actually 1 month. Do you work for sportsnet or something?

  415. samTHEman says:

    Fuggin Cammalleri….why did Bob even sign this guy? Let’s trade him for Halak.

  416. saskhabfan says:

    “bad analogy- when he first played those wins/losses ??? how many goals did crosby and malkin score that year?”-Observer. When asked why Marc Andre fleury had been sent to the minors when he struggled in his 3rd season.

  417. Everlasting1 says:

    Grabovski is no slouch, and I think Bozak will net 20 goals.

    The real edge here is home-ice in this season opener.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  418. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I agree with you. Pleks, Kostitsyn and Eller are going to be fun to watch. Capt Gionta is going to play as usual, 110%, Gomez and a hitting, drive to the net, Pouliot (I hope he plays with a little edge). Gill, Gorges, Subban, Moen, etc. Yeah I like our chances.

  419. SeriousFan09 says:

    Grabs has proved he’s just as much a headcase as Sergei can be. SK had gotten loaded at the Olympics and gotten into a bar brawl what people would have said around here… Bozak has to prove last season wasn’t a fluke as well.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  420. Everlasting1 says:

    Grabovski is a lot more proven than SK.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  421. SeriousFan09 says:

    20-goal season getting top-6 time for all of 08-09, Sergei could probably put up some decent numbers if he got 16 minutes a night.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  422. RiverviewCanadien says:

    About time you showed up and brought order. This place is run rabid with Leaf talk here tonight.

    Honestly fans are worried about losing to the Leafs. We all knew who was not going to be in the lineup, only surprise is Price-Berg. The doom and gloom has already started, and the team WITH a captain has not even stepped on the ice.

    But thanks Bugs for bringing some humor back. The CODE REDs were always fun to read.

  423. Bugs says:

    I please to aim, mate!


    Reverse that.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  424. Everlasting1 says:

    That one never gets old Bugs :-) I’m just giving the psychological edge, and the injury factor here.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

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