Ryder: “It’s good to be back”

It’s been a hectic week for Michael Ryder who was traded to the Canadiens on Tuesday from the Dallas Stars for forward Erik Cole. Ryder spent Thursday travelling from Toronto to Dallas to collect some of his things and then arrived back in Montreal at about 2:30 a.m. Friday.

Nine hours later he was on the ice, practising with his new teammates in Brossard at the Habs’ training facility.

“This is where I started my career. I never thought I’d be back here but it’s good to be back,” Ryder said.

“Hopefully we get something good going here and hopefully I can just jump in and help out and keep this train rolling,” he said.

Ryder played four seasons for the Canadiens before signing with the Boston Bruins in 2008 as a free agent. He had no trouble getting to the rink but said he couldn’t find the dressing room in the Bell Sports Complex when he got off the ice. The Canadiens hadn’t moved into their practice facility yet when he left for Boston.

Ryder is playing on a line with Lars Eller and rookie Alex Galchenyuk.

“The more we play with each other and practice I think it’s only going to get better,” Ryder said. “You can tell they’re fast. They have a lot of speed and I think we can get a lot of good things going.”

It takes time to build chemistry, coach Michel Therrien said, but he’s convinced they’ll find it.

There was another familiar face back on the ice after a long absence. Forward Petteri Nokelainen, who has been out with a lingering back injury, practiced with his teammates for the first time this season.

“It’s a big step for me. It’s been a long haul,” Nokelainen said.

He’s been cleared for contact but said he’s not ready to play.

When asked where he sees himself fitting into the team, Nokelainen said he hadn’t thought about it yet. “I don’t know when I’m coming back or anything like that so I’m just concentrating on the next day and working hard and hopefully feeling good the next day.”

He injured himself lifting weights last summer, Nokelainen said. “It wasn’t something that all of sudden happened. It’s something that crept up and caught me eventually.

 

 

264 Comments

  1. AceMagnum says:

    They have to win EVERY game cause the Leafs keep taking advantage of this weak joke called the Eastern Conference

  2. hockeymaniac31 says:

    I could care less if they beat the Pens tonight but they have to win against the Bruins Sunday. I repeat, HAVE to beat the Bruins Sunday. Today’s game against the Pens is just a bonus if you ask me.

  3. frontenac1 says:

    1-0 Jackets in the1st. Will the Hawks make it 21?

  4. habsfan0 says:

    If Habs sweep the Penguins and Bruins this weekend, is it a fait accompli that they’re going to make the playoffs, at the very least?

    • Danno says:

      If we beat them both you can say the Habs are real.

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  5. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So back to Wednesday…

    Pacioretty is gaining confidence, so teams better look the ____ out. An amazing story thus far, that guy is going to make people jump out of their seats watching him play, for a long time. He is a prototypical power forward, franchise player. The only Habs gear I have with current players names on them are Plekanec, and Pacioretty. Unreal those two players.

    Anyways, I have never been completely sold on this guy, but Desharnais`s game against the Leafs, in my opinion, is one of the best I have seen. The kid has hands, speed, strength, determination. Great job the other night.

  6. frontenac1 says:

    @commandant. Damn we could have picked him up off waivers a month ago! Jeeze I think he could have worked out as a #6 or 7.

  7. bear says:

    Bear
    Re Savard, Sam Polluck should have annointed Scotty before he handed the job to Irving, there was something wrong about that transition and it wasn’t only Grundman screwing up, owners did as well. Scotty should have never left town, our team took a nose dive after 22 cups. If it wasn’t for Patric we probably wouldn’t have won another one. Glad to see an owner paying attention, a GM with some street smarts and a coach who’s learned how to get the best out of the new breed.

    • handle with care says:

      Darcy Jenish’s book on the Habs gives a detailed account of why Bowman was not hired to replace Pollock. Too volatile and tempermental. Neither Pollock nor Beliveau backed Bowman for the GM job.

      • HabFab says:

        But in retrospect…duh!

      • Jim Edson says:

        Recollect that it was widely known that the one thing that united the great teams of the 70’s was the players’ universal dislike of Bowman.

        The guy got results but made few friends!

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        They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

        ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

    • wjc says:

      The dynasty was over, Pollack knew when to leave the last of the protected players were getting older and the draft was the new way.

      Bowman had eight years in Buffalo and failed so to speak. The days of the Canadiens having loaded farm systems and the pick of the french were over.

      It became difficult for teams to build a dynasty from the draft. The New York Islanders and Edmonton were the last dynasties.

      wjc

      • ZepFan2 says:

        “Canadiens having loaded farm systems and the pick of the french were over.”

        Learn some history: http://tinyurl.com/batohq6

        And it’s Bowman, not “Boman”

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        • wjc says:

          What revisionist ‘history’ are you referring to.

          Lemaire, Savard, Lappoint, Houle, Tardif and many more are from that history. plus many great players drifting into retirement.

          They traded ‘Redmond’ for Frank Mahovalich
          They trade Danny Grant for future players from Minnesota.

          The Canadiens built the best ‘farm system’ in hockey, thanks to Pollack and Selke (especially Selke) When the draft came in the Canaidens were allowed to keep these players or trade them off.

          By the time of the first few drafts all the good players were protected or traded for future assets. Look at the players being drafted some were ‘midgets’ and juvenile players……..look it up.

          Bowman….my bad.

          wjc

          • ZepFan2 says:

            Since you never took the time to read it:

            “If the myth were true, the Canadiens would have also snapped up Jean Ratelle, Rod Gilbert, Gilles Gilbert, a couple of players named Pronovost, and Gil Perreault among others. The possibilities are endless – they would have likely never lost a game, nevermind the Stanley Cup.”

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        • wjc says:

          If the system had stayed the same, they would have had the French Connection from Buffalo, Marcel Dionne, Ray Bourgue, Dennis Savard ect.

          wjc

          • boing007 says:

            Ooh la la. That would have been something to see.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • HabFab says:

        Also Pollack built his team thru the draft. He was the first to do so and then others clued in.

        • wjc says:

          Pollack did not build the team through the draft, he had many draft picks because he traded assets that had to go anyways.

          Pollack left because he knew the advantage was over.

          wjc

          • ZepFan2 says:

            Umm, you contradict yourself when you say Pollock didn’t build the team thru the draft and then state he traded away assets for “draft picks”

            Wouldn’t that be building a team thru the draft?

            “By then Sam Pollock or Trader Sam as he was known, was working magic year in and year out on draft day and by flipping players in Montreal’s farm system that had been so expertly set up years before by Selke and ran by Pollock, for draft picks. Players like Guy Lafleur, Steve Shutt, Mario Tremblay, several others, were selected with picks that Pollock acquired through trades.”

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        • wjc says:

          Actually it was the ‘New York Islanders’ that built the first serious team through the draft, by finishing low and drafting wisely.

          Edmonton did the same and also had Gretzky. No one has been able to do it again.

          wjc

          • The Juice says:

            @wjc…everyone of your posts in this thread is either hypocritical or pure nonsense…my thanks to ZepFan for attempting to set you straight.

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  8. frontenac1 says:

    Nabakov! Is he related to that pervert child molester ? Bas#ard!

  9. frontenac1 says:

    Screw Parros! Get John Erskine . He took care of Parros. 2wks ago and can clear the crease and put points on the board. He is not a Goon! Saludos!

  10. Sportfan says:

    So has anyone heard anything about Staubitz lately? I know its really random to ask, but I saw something and wasn’t sure it was true?

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  11. Stephen York says:

    Punched Out: The Derek Boogaard Story (part 1):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQ5rndAh_Q

  12. ed says:

    here’s Feaster’s statement:

    so Calagry knew about the issue, but they felt the rule would not apply in this case. They were prepared to fight the NHL if Colorado would have taken the draft picks.,

    “Prior to tendering the offer sheet for Ryan O’Reilly we, as a hockey operations department, examined whether there were any impediments to our successfully securing the services of the player including, but not limited to, his having played in the KHL after the start of the current NHL season,” Calgary general manager Jay Feaster said in a statement.

    “Our interpretation of the Article 13 transition rules governing restricted free agents (“RFA”), and the applicability of Article 13.23 under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement to such RFA’s was, and continues to be, different than the NHL’s current interpretation as articulated to us this morning. Moreover, throughout our discussions, the player’s representative shared our interpretation and position with respect to the non-applicability of Article 13.23.

    “While we were prepared to advance our position with the NHL, in light of Colorado’s having matched the offer sheet it is now an academic point. As such, we will have no further comment on the matter, the player, or the offer sheet process.”

    • The Jackal says:

      I believe that, I doubt they actually acted without considering these things.

      • commandant says:

        The argument doesn’t make sense.

        Feaster’s argument is “we looked at the CBA and here is what we interpreted. The NHL interpreted it differently. If they forced him to go on waivers, we would have appealed and made our argument.”

        Sorry but that isn’t the way an NHL team should operate.

        You shouldn’t be “appealing the NHL’s ruling” on a transaction like this.

        You should be calling the NHL and asking them what the ruling will be BEFORE you sign the player to an offer sheet. You don’t risk losing the appeal, you know the result before you make the offer sheet.

        Its one phone call to Bill Daly.

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        • The Juice says:

          Agree with commandant on this one

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    • otter649 says:

      Four other NHL teams thought the same way as Calgary as O’Reilly turned down 4 other offer sheets before accepting Calgary’s……

  13. Sportfan says:

    “Wouldnt putting Feaster on thin ice be the same as drowning him?”
    -HabinBurlington Thank you for making me laugh so hard haha

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  14. Bill says:

    I’ve been loving the compressed schedule … Habs all the time. Two nights in a row without a game has me in withdrawl!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  15. habitunts1 says:

    Sad to see Cole go I thought he contributed even though the goals wernt coming for him. Welcome back aboard Ryder glad to have you back where you belong
    Any rumors out there of Any team wanting Kaberle’s services?

    #10

  16. ZepFan2 says:

    Hell has frozen over: http://tinyurl.com/aa3tznu

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    • Mr. Biter says:

      Obviously Quebec gets to much in transfer payments to pay the civil servents in the lanugage police to go looking for two ff’s. Also surprised that the left leaning Huffington Post would mention this.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

    • Bill says:

      If the PQ and the Quebec language zealots were actually TRYING to look like total douchebags, would you be able to tell the difference from their usual behaviour?

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • ed says:

        the strategy is so obvious.

        Separatists will stir the pot, stir some more, and keep stirring, until someone in Ottawa bites, and actually blunders his way into a Federal-Province power debate.

        then the PQ will yell and scream bloody murder that they need a REAL MAJORITY to fight off the feds in Ottawa. After all, the Bloc is no longer doing that work, they will argue.

        And then we will head back to another Provincial election.

        Since the Separatists have lost the first two referendums, they get at least 2 more kicks at the can because apparently its a best 4 out of 7 series.

        hopefully it will end in regulation or overtime and won’t go to a shootout.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Have you seen the open letter by a bunch of “intellectuals and academics” calling for McGill and Concordia’s funding to be cut by 70%?

          Because 9% of Quebec are Anglos, they say, Anglo universities should only get 9% of the funding.

          Funding of universities aling ethnic lines. Incredible that you can make this argument and not be thought a racist

          • ed says:

            Racism has been present here in Quebec since early in the 18th Century

            It is simply a fact of everyday life.

        • The Jackal says:

          Wouldn’t call it racism, it’s more a few extremists who unfortunately use the fear of losing culture as a political basis from which to influence people into supporting these plans and ideas.
          Fortunately, these won’t gain steam. Sovereigntists are on their way out, and despite the incumbent PQ government, Quebecers are more concerned with social issues than language issues. The PQ won because of its purported social agenda, not because of the sovereignty card.

          I love QC and I hate seeing these few people make it look bad. QC culture should be preserved of course, but there is no need for a language police of language discrimination/affirmative action. I think these views are no longer that popular, and that’s a good sign, but to truly move forward there needs to be national reconciliation from the constitutional fallout and subsequent referendum.

          That’s why the Habs are awesome. Because they transcend these ridiculous and artificial barriers put up by politicians. The Habs are truly more than a hockey team.

          • Mondou6 says:

            “QC culture should be preserved of course, but there is no need for a language police…”

            What does that mean? You agree that French should be preserved, but you can somehow do that while having everyone speaking English?

            You can’t make an omelette without breaking some oeufs. :)

          • boing007 says:

            The PQ won by one percentage point over the Liberal Party, hardly a landslide victory.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • boing007 says:

        They don’t have to try, it comes naturally to them.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • FunkyCrabChairNF says:

      I don’t think its so absurd to make everyone follow the law. I see the point of view that it is overboard, but if they don’t go after the businesses exclusively using languages OTHER than English, then it is biased. The owner of this establishment is obviously French. Whether you like the law or not is one matter, but all laws should be applied uniformly and fairly. Further, the language laws of Quebec are applied in compliance with the recommendations of the Supreme Court. What may be ridiculous may not be “wrong”.

      Also, I think when people go about referring to language debates as racist, they discredit their own argument. I read enough on here to see (as much as possible on a hockey blog) that you are a fairly intelligent person, but usually when the “R” bomb is dropped regarding this topic, I can’t take the person seriously.

      To call this racist suggests one does not know the definition of racism and has never seen real racism in action.

    • Mondou6 says:

      English is my native language, and I also speak French so-so.

      These stories sound stupid, but I sympathize with the efforts to preserve French culture and language. I mean, it’s easy to mock things like this, but at what point do you draw the line?

      Do you say that there should be absolutely no language rules? That’s a valid argument, but then within 50+ years, French will be gone from Quebec. There’s no way it could withstand the economic and societal forces, being a relatively small minority within Canada, and being a miniscule minority within North America.

      If your reply is “Who cares, let French die out in Canada”, then again, that’s a valid argument. But personally, I admire the effort to maintain it. And if there is an effort to maintain it, then there will always be fringe cases where you can argue that they’ve “gone too far”.

      Ok, pasta is ok. Caffe is ok. Home Depot is ok. Fish and chips is ok. If Home Depot is ok, then “Joe’s Hardware Store” should be ok too. If fish and chips is ok, then “House of French Fries with Gravy and Cheese” should be ok instead of Maison de Poutine.

      I think it’s safe to say that English would obliterate the French language in Canada within a couple generations without the sometimes crazy battles of the French language police.

      • boing007 says:

        The PQ were putting out documentaries (with really morbid/scary background music) forty years ago that French would disappear from Quebec. Hasn’t happened yet. As well, the majority of Quebec’s French speaking people live outside of Montreal. Around two thirds. Where’s the threat there? Many French speaking families have moved to the suburbs because house prices are too high in Montreal and the infrastructure is in a dilapidated condition. Changing a word on Buonanotte’s menu won’t change that problem. Various governments in Quebec City have been studiously ignoring Montreal for at least twenty years. Montreal is too multicultural and multilingual for their tastes.

        Richard R
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        • FunkyCrabChairNF says:

          Well, the PQ doesn’t disagree about “pasta” which is why the matter was dropped.

          To your bigger point, the ‘hysteria’ of the PQ 40 years ago regarding the French language led to the passage of Bill 101. If Bill 101 was not enacted, do you honestly think French would still be as strong in Quebec as it is today? I find that beyond the realm of rational conclusions.

          • boing007 says:

            Where did I write the word hysteria? Nowhere.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • FunkyCrabChairNF says:

        I think that is an excellent outlook on the realities of the situation. Another point that could be made is when people say “let French die out”, and many anglophone Canadians frequently do, this gives the justification for the existence of OLFQ needed by those who disagree.

        If I were a francophone in Quebec, I would fully support its existence. And, as an anglophone currently in the US, I see nothing wrong with it.

        • boing007 says:

          That’s because you are living in the US. You might feel differently if you lived here. By the way, I’m bilingual and have been living in Montreal since 1972.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  17. 24 Cups says:

    I’ve been out all day so I just heard about the Calgary brain cramp. I stand corrected, but if Colorado took the picks there was a chance that the Flames would lose O’Reilly to waivers. Which would have meant that Columbus would have picked up O’Reilly for free. They then could decide to keep him as a solid building block or trade him at some point down the road (even if it had to be a year later).

    Tallon got fired for messing up the date on qualifying offers, surely this fiasco is reason enough to fire Feaster Famine.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Sounds to me like it was an obscure technicality – it’s not at all clear that it would have been enforced.

      • The Jackal says:

        I agree with you HF72 – if GMs and agents really did not know, how serious was the league about this, at least this year? Surely, coming out of a lockout there must be special circumstances where these things are treated with more leniency.

        • 24 Cups says:

          I wondered about that.

          You would think that an offer would have to go through the league first and someone would have mentioned it to Calgary.

          • ed says:

            Ha! Ha! you’re right 24

            even the league hasn’t read the new CBA yet!!

            What a bunch of clowns!!

          • The Jackal says:

            I’m not sure if it works like this, as we are not talking about international treaties, but…. the CBA is not yet ratified, so maybe that provision does not apply. Anyone know about this?

          • 123456 says:

            I’m not getting this: If O’R signed an offer sheet and Colorado wanted the picks instead – is it technically the case that O’R is a member of the Av’s for a split second and then traded to Calgary for picks? If that is true then doesn’t the KHL clause go away?

            I have not reviewed the language (apparently noone else has)

    • The Juice says:

      Agree on the Tallon issue…probably was one of his assistants who screwed up but he got the axe so should Feaster.

      BTW in my opinion Tallon is responsible for the Hawks success today more than any other individual.

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  18. jedimyrmidon says:

    I’m curious: do you think that the Habs players’ rates of production (points-per-game, pro-rated season total) are sustainable?

    I think in general, it’s pretty accurate. Max being at PPG for an 82-game season probably isn’t realistic at this point. Subban, Diaz and Markov are on the high end of point totals.

    This compared to the Leafs that would have Kadri and Frattin being nearly PPG players, three 60 point players (one of them being Kessel who has produced a PPG season before), a number of 40-50 point guys and that’s not even counting Lupul. If they could sustain that, that would be scary.

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    To continue an earlier conversation, exactly what message did Prust send to Phaneuf?

    Prust dropped a glove. Phaneuf looked at him. And skated away.

    And continued to run at players.

    What message does dropping a glove send?

    • ed says:

      I don’t recall Phaneuf running at anyone after that incident. I’m pretty sure that’s accurate, and that he stopped trying to intimidate.

      • twilighthours says:

        Phaneuf took his big run at Gallagher after the incident with Prust.

        • Da Hema says:

          Even if he did — which is not how I recollect that — what does that say about Phaneuf? He refuses to engage someone his own size, and then goes after our smallest player.

          • Bill says:

            It says that he’s a jerk, and also that he’s not gonna stop running other players just because Prust threatens him. Which is HFS72’s point.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

        • ed says:

          maybe.

          I wasn’t sure about that.

          But what I can say for certain is that Phaneuf played like total crap after his run in with Prust.

          He became a turnover machine, and one of our goals came off his turnover to Desharnais.

        • Bill says:

          This is what actually happened.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Da Hema says:

        Phaneuf took a dangerous run at Gallagher prior to Prust challenging him. I too noticed Phaneuf did stop afterwards. Prust would have cleaned Phaneuf’s clock. That’s why Mrs. Phaneuf declined the invitation.

    • Steve C. says:

      What really happened is that Phaneuf was shown to be cut from the same cloth as Milan Lucic, the cloth that says, “I can’t take a hit. If I get hit, I’m gonna turn red with smoke coming out of my ears, slash you and try and hurt you…but I won’t fight you”.

  20. The Jackal says:

    Oy! What’s the love affair here with Clarkson?
    I was just looking at his stats, and he has only scored more than 17 goals ONCE – last season. Before that, his highest total is 17!
    Mind you, he was on an upwards trend before he played only 46 games after that season, scoring 11 in 46, then 12 in 82. After that 12 goal season, he broke out last year to score 30, and now has 10 goals so far this year.

    So are those good numbers? I’m not a numbers guy, but it seems we are over-valuing him. I mean, if he is that scoring big forward, that’s great, just trying to get a sense of what is consistent for him.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Clarkson is the type of player that Montreal needs to draft and develop. It’s guys like him that address a real need – not goons who can only play 5 minutes. However, there’s no way they should sign him as an UFA which would entail a huge overpayment in coin and term. I don’t think there is any evidence that he is a 1st line guy.

    • rnnoble says:

      Clarkson is exactly the type of guy that the habs need. A big guy who can fight, but can also score goals. Never mind all this ridiculous talk about goons; Clarkson has steadily progressed in terms of production, and is currently on 40 goal pace.

      • 24 Cups says:

        We agree on the point but the reality is that Lucic gets 6M a season and Clarkson is probably going to get 5M a season on a long term deal. That’s the going rate these days, I guess.

  21. habsfan0 says:

    Has MT indicated who his starting goalie is against Pittsburgh & Boston?

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Think he’s gotta with Price both games. Pittsburgh cause of their offense and vs. the Bruins Price for sure (inter division game) just because it’s the Bruins.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  22. habs001 says:

    Eller still has not shown to me that he can be an offensive player beyond 40 points…He plays very well but he has shown limitations in goal scoring….DD and Gallagher have shown their offensive IQ is much better…Gallagher is looking like Gion and looks like will have those type of scoring stats…Gion is playing well but all that wear and tear on his body is catching up..221 goals not bad for a 5 -7 player

  23. Ian Cobb says:

    Kovy! Back!, What are you smoking my friend.

    Kovalev has been playing both ends in this league for years!! Both ends against the middle!!

    • Mr. Biter says:

      AK was told as a young player not to go over his teams blueline and he has been followed that advise his whole career. Habs 1st game vs Panthers this year and Kovy left his check at the blue line and we scored from the slot. Was watching the Panthers feed and they played it over and over.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  24. shiram says:

    Do people still want to have Kovalev back??
    He might become available sooner than later.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417114

    • habs001 says:

      Only to sign autographs at a charity event…

    • Da Hema says:

      Yes, we need a disinterested, unmotivated, prima donna to balance out the character and determination of this current crop of players. I am sure Marc Bergevin too would like to spend endless hours of his time stroking a player’s ego.

      • Mr. Biter says:

        Doubt MT would be stroking AK’s ego. Permanant press box fixture if he was here. I’d rather (been drinking to much this afternoon) see Armstrong out there than Kovy because at least he tries. Can’t score but tries.

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

  25. Mustang says:

    This is a nice video for 60 years of Hockey Night in Canada. I’m not sure if anyone has already posted it. Anyway, it is a great video showing many of the great players over the years.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/wQ5leZrQk-0

  26. PoolFool says:

    Who would you rather have on the Habs night now……

    Gionta or Saku?

    • Habfan17 says:

      Saku

      Habfan17

    • Les-Habitants says:

      Saku without question. Gio is awesome.
      But Saku..he’s a special hab.

    • Bill says:

      Saku, but that’s nothing against Gionta. Mainly I would rather have had Saku instead of Gomez all those years.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Koivu is happy on Ducks, he doesn’t have to carry them on his back.

      How respected he is in Montreal was apparent from the ovation he got his first game back at the Bell Center.

      Gionta is OK as a regular player. As our Captain and a major stud? Not so much.

      You’ll start fights posting this kind of stuff. I’m still waiting on the Gomez fan club to log in.

      • TheDagger says:

        The Gomez fan club play 16:51 last night in SJ! Crazy numbers for him!

      • nunacanadien says:

        Gionta should just go. Enough of this giving up and letting the other guy basically knock him down to the ice. The habs are about winning now and Gionta’s cruising ala Cole style is not right especially for the kind of money Gionta gets.

        • The Jackal says:

          Ah, to be delusional. Must be a nice break from the vagaries of reality.

          Seriously though, Gionta is one of the hardest workers on the team, and he has produced as well. He is a good example to the young guys and he is a leader. Stop belittling his role. By the time his contract is up he will have done exactly what was expected of him.
          And also, Cole did not float, stop generalizing from a slow start – he was picking it up and he’s gone now, too bad, but that’s hockey. He’s got a couple of more good years in him yet, and so does Gionta.

        • Psycho29 says:

          Agreed…..and I blame Bergevin for signing rookies who have never played in the league before too.

        • PoolFool says:

          Hey easy…. his goal last game was NOT empty netter. Scrivens was still on on the ice LOL classic ….check the stats

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      I love Saku the only jersey this grown “adult” has…that being said, we’d have to get rid of pleks and/or DD

      Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  27. Habfan17 says:

    Since Feaster messed up that offer sheet, maybe he will feel the need to make a trade. Maybe Bergevin could trade them Weber for Aliu. The flames just sent him back to Abbotsford. At 6’4″ and 230 lbs, he would be good on the 4th line right wing. He is still young and maybe Therrien can get him headed in the right direction. He did have 157 oints in 207 games in the OHL with 407pims. In AHL/ECHL he has 91 points in 195 games and 285 pims.

    I am sure Bergevin would be happy to send them kaberle for their first and third round pick, since it would be a better deal than what they would have with the offer sheet to O’Reilly!

    Habfan17

  28. commandant says:

    @Hobie Hanson

    Absolutely right on a tough guy who plays 10 minutes a game.

    And this is why Prust and Moen get the contracts they got, because they can handle that 10 minutes (including soaking up PK minutes).

    I’d love to have a guy who can play in our top 6 and be that player though, but they are very hard to find.

    Go Habs Go!
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  29. jedimyrmidon says:

    So they call Gallagher “the little ball of hate” like Marchand.

    Difference is: he isn’t dirty and whiny. He’s the light side version!

  30. ed says:

    don’t you find it a little strange that all this time O’reilly has been holding out, not one reporter, not one media outlet anywhere, broke the story of the waiver rule effect of him having played 2 KHL games after the NHL season started???

    that is very strange that NO ONE would break this story.

    And then, like magic, as soon as Calgary’s offer sheet is accepted, BOOM, the story breaks!!

    How many journalists cover NHL hockey worldwide – internet, TV, radio, newspaper??

    How many Bloggers are there??

    It is simply unbelievable to me that NO ONE had this story before Calgary’s offer sheet came to light.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      It is Ed, you bring up a great question. Perhaps Paul Maurice made a little phone call to Chris Johnston tipping him off about the 2 games, since apparantly the NHL didn’t even know about the games.

    • The Jackal says:

      Right? It’s pretty crazy.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Members of the media are surely embarrassed…you will not hear much talk of this even though it was a colossal blunder.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • commandant says:

      The CBA hasn’t been ratified and published.

      Its not like last CBA where its been sitting on the NHL’s website for 5 years.

      Once the media gets a hold of the new CBA, I’m sure these issues will be caught sooner.

      Go Habs Go!
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    • LA Loyalist says:

      Whomever is the Flames contract manager / cap-ologist should be taking the bullet. Feaster, however, should have asked the question of his own people, “if we do this, is the guy clean?” Also O’Reilly’s agent may have been involved.

      Sloppy. Maybe an excuse to clean house in Calgary. And no we don’t want Iginla. 3 years ago, maybe, but now? No way.

      We’re going to do this smart.

    • issie74 says:

      Just remember Nabokov.

      NorthTOHab

  31. Luke says:

    OK folks it’s Beer O’clock.

    Keep it civil, enjoy the games and don’t wreck the place.
    I’ll be back on Monday… it better be SPOTLESS in here.

  32. Hobie Hansen says:

    Not sure all the regular HIOers will be around to see this, as they’re packing up their laptops and running out the doors to start their weekends.

    Anyway, my stance has lightened about having a tough guy on the team. Do I want one, absolutely! however, I would never want John Scott or George Parros who play six minutes a game or less in Scott’s case.

    In today’s NHL you have to find a tough player who can play a somewhat regular role. Our fourth line, nobody plays less than 10 minutes and we’re in 1st place.

    You could have a guy like Parros up in the press box and dust him off for games against tougher teams but I wouldn’t want to break up our fourth line right now and put him in there.

    • Ali says:

      You think it’s a coincidence that the Bruins have been quiet as mice against the Sabres this year? On what planet does anyone think that if a Hab had managed to miraculously beat Shawn Thornton in a fight, that someone else on that team would not challenge that player that very same game, if not the next game? Scott hasn’t had to fight a bruin since, and the only Bruin who fought was Campbell, who hilariously got his hat handed to him by Patrik Kaleta of all people.

    • Cardiac says:

      There is only a handful of those kind of guys… Ryane Clowe, Wayne Simmonds, Steve Ott and of course Chris Neil.

      *Edit* Clowe is more of a second or third line guy actually.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • ont fan says:

      Rob Ray said there really wasn’t room for Scott on the team anymore. They couldn’t justify his 4 mins. a game.

  33. Habsrule1 says:

    Enjoy the weekend games everyone!

    Looking forward to discussing them during and after.

    Cheers.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  34. GoGioGo says:

    Anyone saw this ? The Panthers want Alex Kovalev to retire, or report to their AHL affiliate if he still wants to get paid. This looks like the end for l’Artiste.

    I know he hasn’t been the same for a long time, but I still feel kind of sad for him. You can see he really loves the game, even though some nights we used to wonder if he liked himself even more. What a great player he could have been…

    • commandant says:

      And some here were upset that we didn’t offer him a tryout when Florida did.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • habs_54321 says:

        it was more than some it was roughly half the users on here, some people were calling tsn 690 and yelling and cursing about not signing kovalev, thank god the fans dont run the team

        • GoGioGo says:

          Soon enough some crazy whack job will suggest he becomes a coach. I can see it happening.

          “Hey kid, don’t put too much effort into this, just show up one night out of three and you’ll be okay…”

          Is Columbus hiring ?

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Makes me laugh …all the people on here whining after his first game this year…as if he was going to continue on that pace *rolls eyes

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      The Habs should probably see if he wants to come coach in some capacity.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      He should play in Switzerland, hell, I wish I was playing in Switzerland.

      He was great for us at the time. No complaints. What a shot from the top of the circle :-)

      Certainly he could have been even better if he’d been motivated.

  35. commandant says:

    Max looks at the “beer league goons” the type of hockey player who ruins a fun recreational league for everyone.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/03/01/getting-to-know-a-goon-the-sean-avery-type-and-alexander-ovechkin-complex/

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    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I won’t even play floor hockey because of idiots like these who take supposedly fun leagues too seriously. They need to get a life.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        I played in a softball league like that once.

        They were decently talented for the local beer league and the ball was quality but I couldn’t stand how serious they took it.

        One night a wife on the other team got the score wrong by one (she had us tied when we were up by one) and three of the guys on my team (including the guy who ran the team) started calling her a dumb C word.

        I basically told my team to shut their mouths and quite acting like A-holes, I will go over and figure it out.

        Well, a quick look at the score card and I found the mistake. She marked a guy home who was called out at the plate (I knew this because I made the relay throw and then the other team called the guy a moron for trying to score). I politely pointed out the problem, shared the background as too why I knew she was wrong, I apologized for my team.

        She realized her mistake (after I told her the play were her team was calling the guy a moron), thanked me for being so polite and then asked why I played with these a holes. I shrugged and said I just like playing ball. It just so happens I joined a bunch of d-bags this summer. I made sure my team heard that.

        I now run my company team in an engineering league. I call it error ball, as in, the team that makes the fewest errors wins. It bothered me at first, but now I don’t care. I play hard, I feel bad when I screw up (which I do), but at the end of the night I want to see smiles on my teams face regardless of the score.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Good for you. These leagues should be about having fun, getting some excercise and blowing off some steam. We all have enough stress in our lives that we do not need this in our down time.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • TheDagger says:

      Haha I know it is crazy dirty and completely ridiculous, but man did I burst out laughing at that first slash. I think it was the slow, calculated wind-up. Shouldn’t have laughed but I didn’t see that one coming haha.

  36. Hobie Hansen says:

    The arms race is heating up in the west.

    Vancouver added Sestito to go up against McGratton in Calgary.

    • nunacanadien says:

      And we have Gionta to fight against that? Who would have thought that Gionta was our tough guy? Most teams the captain is the one who fights back against this type of crap. So maybe if the NHL allows one more piece of equipment, a slingshot for Gionta to knock down this Goliath players…..or maybe let’s just get Aliu or some bigger guy already.

  37. commandant says:

    Jay Feaster needs to be fired over this. Incredible.

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  38. HaBo says:

    Actually, i’m pretty sure i heard/read last july that MB was trying to sign Parros as a ufa. Think it was during the tsn ufa broadcast.
    Anyone else remember this?

  39. Iceberg84 says:

    Does anyone know if there’s a video interview with Ryder about the trade somewhere on the Internet? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to order/watch 24 CH in English, online?

  40. JohnBellyful says:

    Although Ryder’s stay in the Lone Star State wasn’t a long one, he quickly developed a following, especially among kids. The team’s publicity department took full advantage of his popularity by featuring him in a series of adventures that exploited his reputation as a pure shooter.

  41. Mattyleg says:

    Dunno if anyone has seen/posted/commented to death on this, but just spotted it on CBC website:

    Colby Armstrong talking about Therrien, asked if he thought that MT had mellowed, and he said that he’s still the same old Mike in the dressing-room:

    “He’ll still tell you up front when he thinks you’re not playing hard enough. He’s done that to me a couple times already. He still runs the ship.”

    For those who thought that Armstrong was getting a free ride, there’s proof to the contrary.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  42. JUST ME says:

    Ze big week end ! Every game we say it is a big test and so on and so on but this time it is true. Two games against the bests of the league without a doubt.
    On monday we will know what remains to be done to compete but for once we can say that we are playing to protect our first place. Isn`t it nice ?

  43. H.Upmann says:

    Feaster should be glad that Avs matched the offer. Just hilarious! That would have been priceless if OReilly got picked off waivers.

  44. lavie says:

    Chucky-Eller-Ryder would become our #1 line if being given enough ice time.

  45. GGtheHab says:

    In the reds tomorrow night..sec 107 row R and as luck would have it..seat #10…nice to see the Pens struggling hoping to witness my 5th Habs victory in as many games there…Go Habs Go!!

  46. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Is there any chance that that offer sheet was a risky play by the Flames to get Ryan O’Reilly back in the Colorado line up so he could help keep the Avalanche above the Flames in the Standings? Is Jay Feaster perhaps the ballsiest tanker on the planet?

  47. HabFanSince72 says:

    For those of you who think having a cop like George “Porno” Parros would protect the little’uns….

    Last night John “Freak” Scott took a run at a Florida player. Parros immediately stepped up and gave a major bruise to Scott’s knuckles with his face. That will teach big John.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      It’s “Pornos”…he’s Greek.. ;)

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • To be fair, John Scott is a monster.

      That’s not an argument for the ineffectiveness of enforcers (though there are many), so much as an argument for the ridiculousness of the fact that John Scott is a hockey player in the NHL.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • greenfield says:

      I think you’re missing the point.

      I did not see the scrap last night, but if Scott took a run at a Florida player, are you suggesting it would be better to have no response at all? Would it be OK for Scott to take several subsequent runs at Florida players with impunity?

      Two nights ago Dion Phaneuf took at least three hellacious runs at our skilled players. The worst one on Gallagher at our blue line. Thankfully we have a character guy in Prust who challenged the coward, and in so doing, sent a message that it’s unacceptable to run our smaller players.

      But we cannot let Prust (Middleweight) do it alone. We need guys ,like a Parros for example, who we can insert into the lineup when playing teams like Toronto, Boston, Philly etc. Otherwise I fear some of our skilled guys are going to get hurt.

      • Luke says:

        I was talking to one of the huge obnoxious Leaf fans at work today and he brought up:
        1) Phaneuf being a coward
        2) Phaneuf headhunting the smallest player on the team after being too scared to fight a guy smaller than he is.

        His words… coward, headhunting and scared.

        I also enjoyed reminding him how I have said for 3 years Kadri would be fine, just be patient, while they were calling him a bust and demanding he be traded.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        I agree we need someone to fight the goons so Prust can stay on the ice more. As for the Scott-Parros fight, it was a clean center ice hit so I don’t understand Parros’s reaction. It was not even close to being a cheap shot and something to avenge. I hope he received an instigator penalty. I’m tired of seeing players having to fight after good clean hits.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • commandant says:

        The Run at Gallagher Came AFTER the challenging by Prust.

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    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      I am not sure what fight you watched but Parros won that fight easily and knocked Scott down at the end. You just couldn’t have seen the video I am certain of that. It’s on U-Tube if you are interested.

    • Bill says:

      I think the major point is not that Parros lost the fight.

      The point is that countless posters here claim that having a goon like Parros on our team would prevent other team’s goons from running our players.

      Yet every night, goons are out there running players, whether or not the other team has a goon, as the Parros-Scott encounter demonstrates.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  48. The Jackal says:

    Hope good old Rydez scores a bunch of goals for us once more.
    Here’s to beating the Pens and Booins this weekend.
    Go Habs go!

  49. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Nokia should be trade bait or waiver-bound…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Not sure I agree — I like having a reliable plugger in the press box. He can eat a few minutes, win faceoffs, fight middleweights if needed and go relatively unnoticed when he’s out there (a good thing), occasionally filling in for injuries without disrupting the AHL team’s lines/roster.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        I don’t know. His main attribute was being a right-handed centerman that can win draws. White has taken that job. He does not bring much energy. He is basically filler. If Bourque comes back, we will have another spare winger (probably Armstrong). The AHL team is doing poor this year so maybe it would not be a bad idea to bring up a Blunden and play him in a more positive situation.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Bill says:

      Not sure it matters who sits in the pressbox.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  50. HabinBurlington says:

    Hello? Nevermind, Shaker got here first.

    So I am heading to the Bulldogs game tonight, looking forward to watching them. Haven’t seen them live in quite a few weeks. Will do my best to provide full report tomorrow, but it is $3 draft night, so bear with the fuzzy memory.

  51. jimmy shaker says:

    First, Yes!!!

    Shaker out!

  52. Danno says:

    Joseph Le Boeuf?

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  53. Willy the bum says:

    I would accept 3 out of the 4 points this weekend.


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