Ryan White sidelined with lower-body injury

Canadiens coach Michel Therrien confirmed at practice Friday that Ryan White will miss Saturday’s game against the Buffalo Sabres at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690) because of a lower-body injury.

Michael Blunden has been recalled from the Hamilton Bulldogs to take White’s place.

Friday’s practice in Brossard was optional, with only nine players skating: Travis Moen, Gabriel Dumont, P.K. Subban, Alex Galchenyuk, Tomas Kaberle, Brendan Gallagher, Yannick Weber, Jarred Tinordi and Peter Budaj.

Rene Bourque, still recovering from a concussion, isn’t expected to play Saturday, while Carey Price will start again in net.

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

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Canadiens vs. Islanders photo gallery

Former Hab Ribeiro on fire with Capitals, by The Associated Press

Don Cherry pays tribute to Frank Selke Jr., by Stu Cowan


  1. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Heard a good question…who’s the next Hab to get a contract extension? Budaj? Armstrong? Youppi?

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  2. B says:

    Some believe UND is a lock for getting an “at-large bid” to continue in the NCAA hockey playoffs.


    Their ladies team already got one this year. I believe we will find out Sunday night if they will continue (or if Kristo’s NCAA career is over).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  3. Stevie.Ray says:

    Question: Brady Vail is being called up to the AHL, I believe it’s on a tryout contract. Can he still return to the OHL next season.

    Also, if he were given an ELC, how many games in the AHL could he play before he burns a year off his contract?

    • HabFab says:

      He is on an amateur try out contract with Hamilton. Has nothing to do with the Habs and he will be able to maintain his amateur status back in the OHL next season.

  4. B says:

    Kristo (and team mate Corbin Knight) among the final 10 candidates for the Hobey Baker:


    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      One of only 10 nominees for an award that Blake Geofferion won a few years ago? We might as well just trade Gionta right now to make room for him.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Here are the last 15 Hobey Baker winners:

      Jack Connolly C
      Andy Miele LW
      Blake Geoffrion C
      Matt Gilroy D
      Kevin Porter C
      Ryan Duncan LW
      Matt Carle D
      Marty Sertich C
      Junior Lessard RW
      Peter Sejna LW
      Jordan Leopold D
      Ryan Miller G
      Mike Mottau D
      Jason Krog C
      Chris Drury LW

      About one in three chance of making the NHL?

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Jason Krog sounds like a “Masters of the Universe” character…

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Sounds more like a disease. Here’s what Wikipedia had to say:
          “Jason Krog (born October 9, 1975) is a professional ice hockey centre currently contracted by HV71 in the Swedish elite league Elitserien (SEL).”

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            Shouldn’t laugh at disease but….hahaha!

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  5. DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

    Alex Kovalev. Thank you for this moment.


  6. HabFab says:

    PK talks about playing under Therrian. Let the controversy start;

  7. 1010 says:

    Just caught the Nash hit on TV. Not even a phone call from the league.It is without a doubt the most obvious example of how corrupt this league is that I`ve witnessed…..er, well, this year anyway. Shanahan has to be one pathetic creature. You would think he would have salted away enough money during his career to have not had to join this regime to make a living. The man is truely a shameless, corrupt, moron.

  8. jedimyrmidon says:

    It’s a looong thread, but there’s an epic debate on PPP about the usefulness [or lack thereof] of facepunchers like Colton Orr. They’re Leaf fans, but they get it.

    Heck, there are multiple references to the 6-0 beatdown by the Leafs, and how the Habs were NOT intimidated by Orr after he took a run at Pleks in a 6-0 pasting (even if he warded off Gionta and sucker punched Bourque).

    Here’s the link: Link

  9. Dunboyne Mike says:


    Either: a) is a complete cynic, got his contract, now plans on coasting to retirement, taking no physical risks this late in his career, no interest in the crest or in winning or in his team-mates or in what friends and family think of him mailing it in.

    or b) it’s something else — injury, off-ice stuff, could be anything — about which we (rightfully) have no notion. The club is being patient.

    I’ve ALWAYS thought of Moen as a character-type player (as in polar opposite of Kostitsyn-type) and therefore I can’t imagine being persuaded that it’s a). So I’m surprised by posts here suggesting that he’s just not interested and is making no effort. Because to assert those things means to assert all of my a) above.

    Obviously, I think it’s b).

    Good luck, Travis. Hope it’s sorted in time for the playoffs.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Not the same guy who played in Anaheim. Was a killer on the third line back then. Now basically a grinder only…not worth a 4 year deal.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Agreed, DDO (though I don’t presume to second-guess MB on deals).

        Except he doesn’t even seem to be grinding at the moment, thereby prompting much harsher assessments than yours.

        • johnnylarue says:

          Moen missed the last quarter of last season with a concussion. That’s a big deal, especially for a physical player.

          I was a bit surprised to see Da Berg offer him such a lengthy contract. I am less surprised (albeit still disappointed) to see that Mo is really just a shell of his former self on the ice.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Doesn’t the contract indicate they expect him to recover some of that former self?

            If they do, and if they are being — as I suggest — patient, then I don’t like seeing him dumped on.

            (That said, there are several positive refs to him in response to Smartdog’s questionnaire below).

          • johnnylarue says:

            I totally agree–I find the concept of dumping on players pretty asinine to begin with, and for the record I’m not one of the people who thinks Moen should be sat.

            That said, I do hope (and expect) to see him up the ante when the playoffs start.

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            The reality is that all our assessments are basically BS until the playoffs start…then we’ll know who’s got what…

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Too true!
            Still, logically speaking, it’s either a) or b).

          • JohnBellyful says:

            Actually there’s more than just A and B.
            A.) He’s a cynic
            B.) He’s injured
            C.) He’s affected by off-ice stuff – family issue, personal problems
            D.) He’s affected by off-ice stuff – does drugs, boozes it up.
            If it’s A) or D.) he’s deserving of criticism. B) or C) he’s deserving of sympathy.
            Then again there’s
            E.) What talent he had has deserted him. The spirit is willing but the flesh is … tired? He’s 31 as of April 6. Perhaps the eight seasons he’s played in the manner he did have taken their toll. It’s not an injury per se that is impairing his performance but wear and tear on a talent not noted for its abundance. Now he’s just another plugger who lucked out on a big contract at the tail end of his career.
            As for dumping on players, guilty as charged, but often it’s meant in jest.
            I put the ass in assinine.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Welcome in, Belly.
            If it’s a) — yes totally deserving of all criticism.
            But if it’s your D), at Moen’s age, then it’s really C)!
            Is your E) really possible? I mean, absolutely, the wear-and-tear is entirely possible, especially for his style of play as you say. But would management have failed to notice it before awarding the contract?
            Re. Dumping, was going to confess to Larue that I make exceptions for dirty players, have been known to refer uncharitably, for eg, to Bradley Marchand.

          • JohnBellyful says:

            If it’s E) and management failed to notice, then we can dump on them!
            Perhaps it’s F) Lockoutvitis did irreparable harm, threw him off his cycle, hasn’t been able to fully adjust to the new competitive rhythm

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Looks like Cole had F).
            Current management still in Dump-Free Honeymoon period!

  10. B says:

    The Dogs play Syracuse tonight facing Cedrick Desjardins and former Hab Jean-Philippe Cote (who delivered the career ending hit to Geoffrion earlier this season). Brady Vail should make his debut (on a ATO). Dean Ouellet and Alex Belzile should also play as both were recently signed to PTOs. To make room Avtsin went down to Wheeling while Corbin and Leveille were loaned to the San Francisco Bulls (Ian Shultz’s latest stop). Petteri Nokelainen will play his 3rd game for the Dogs.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  11. Dunboyne Mike says:

    The DD-Gionta goal was wicked.

    It’s a ball-breaker for the other team when you can score like that, seemingly out of nothing.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Gionta takes a lot of heat for being short and streaky, but he can still be a difference-maker when it counts–as any captain worth his salt should be able to do.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Always works his ass off.

        (And is always first on the ice and last off!)

        • johnnylarue says:

          First on, last off!

          Sure, he brings a folding chair, some magazines and a pack of smokes and essentially just chills out inconspicuously for a few hours while the team practices around him, but NOBODY stays on the ice longer than Gio!

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            “Guys. You mind cooling it with the snow? Magazines gettin’ soggy.”

          • johnnylarue says:

            “Gio! Practice is over, man–you can go home!”

            “Yeah, in a minute. I’m halfway through this article on 3D printers and I still got 4 smokes left…”

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Actually, as soon as you mentioned the smokes I remembered your avatar playing squash with Tom Hanks in “Splash.”

  12. johnnylarue says:

    Who else thinks Kovy’s “retirement” was just an elaborate ploy to get himself back on the ice in a Habs jersey?

    And more importantly, does his sudden addition to the alumni squad bump Dave Morisette off the team?

  13. SmartDog says:

    (not that you need an invitation…)

    1. Someone offers you a 3rd round pick for White. Do you trade?
    2. Same offer for Blunden.
    3. Ottawa is willing to trade Anderson straight up for Price. Yes or no?
    4. You’re looking for a big, tough, depth D to help on the PK and against hard-hitting opponents. What is the most you’ll give up?
    5. Are you shopping Moen? And if so, what is the minimum you’ll take?
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Sal from the Hammer says:

      1. keep white, character guy developed in the Hab system
      2. Blunden is cookie cutter, therefore expendable
      3. Price is a keeper, too young to give up on any time soon
      4.There are guys in Hamilton, not named Tinordi, or Beaulieu, plus the habs have 6 draft picks this year, in rounds 1 & 2
      5. Nobody is going to take him. His contract is too long, and, for what he brings to the table, plenty of guys out there

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Same as Sal, except would prefer to keep Blunden.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Oh boy–my first ever reply to a SmartDog quiz!!

      1. For a 2013 3rd rounder? Yes. I like Whitey, but in the cold light of day–and with Dumont nipping at his heels–“expendability” becomes his defining trait.

      2. See above.

      3. Uh, no.

      4. A second round pick and/or a Dalton Thrower-caliber prospect.

      5. I still see Moen as useful to the team–he generally comes alive when it counts–but trading him for a big, tough depth D feels like a reasonable move. Here too, a second-round pick in the 2013 draft would do it, provided White/Blunden/Dumont are sticking around.

      Sooooo… How’d I do?

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Not funny enough…to the bench with DD and PK!

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • johnnylarue says:

          Hey–more time to practice my face-towel origami!

          And indulge my OCD spitting habit…

          • SmartDog says:

            Face-towels? Move up to the bigtime. Get a real towel and make a giant swan or a beaver or something!

            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • johnnylarue says:

            Great, I now have to start a really terrible jam band just so I can call it Origami Beaver!!!

            (Wait–is this still a “family” site…?)

          • SmartDog says:

            Isn’t that a yoga position?

            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • johnnylarue says:

            I’m pretty sure the “Origami Beaver” is just one level below “Levitation” in the Yogic Skills hierarchy. Not for beginners; extra stretchy pants highly recommended.

    • Bill says:

      1. I do not trade White, he’s a a good player.
      2. I trade Blunden, he’s 26, definitely a journeyman AHL guy. The 3rd rounder has a decent chance of getting a better player in the draft, plus presumably a team that is offering a 3rd for him is going to give him a serious chance, which is great for him.
      3. Hahaha, yeah right. Big no on that one. Sens are doing fine without Anderson, tells you something.
      4. Kinda depends on who we’re getting back, eh? I’d give up a 2nd rounder for the right tough, depth D guy. But I’d give nothing for the wrong one.
      5. Not shopping Moen though disappointed in his play. Either he steps it up in the playoffs, or I take a 3rd rounder for him in the summer, assuming anyone wants a guy at his salary who doesn’t score, hit, fight, or really anything else.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • habstrinifan says:

        Question Bill? Considering that we are very likely playoff bound and that you are disapponted in Moen and he is the type of ‘character veteran’ that othe rteams may see as a fit and capable or contributing… why wont you shop him even if all you get back is a D with size and grit who may have not lived up to his draft … say a 2nd rnd D drafted around 2006 etc.

      • SmartDog says:

        >Either he steps it up in the playoffs, or I take a 3rd rounder for him >in the summer, assuming anyone wants a guy at his salary who >doesn’t score, hit, fight, or really anything else.


        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • habstrinifan says:

      1: No… White is an NHLer… 3rd picks are not guaranteed nhl’ers.
      2: No… Blunden is very near NHLer .
      3: No… then we will have to go find a goalie.. and Anderson is near
      4: 2nd rnd pick or 3rd pick and minor leaguer. “Big tough and good”
      5: Yes.. Big D who was drafted say 2nd round but has ‘failed’… so
      someone who has ‘potential’ or was seen to have potential.

    • Marc10 says:

      1. No
      2. No
      3. No… and even if Anderson were on the same length of contract… Still No.
      4. Picks and prospects. For Boyle in NYR, I’d give up a second rounder and Pateryn.
      5. Yes. But I’ll want a big guy on a short contract who can bang and isn’t a defensive liability.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        I was thinking Pateryn and 2nd rounder for Max Talbot. With Dietz and Ellis, Pateryn is expendable….

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • habstrinifan says:

          Like that trade.. kind of a steal though.

        • Marc10 says:

          Max as a Hab would be awesome. It would take him a shift to outperform Moen’s entire body of work this season. But you don’t need to give up the second rounder. Pateryn is a big boy with some upside. The Flyers save money. Good enough to do one straight up I think (or flip thrid and fourth rounders if you need to sweeten the pot a bit…)

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            I don’t know…but I do know there are many teams that need d-men: Philly, TB, etc. Good chance for MB to pull the trigger…

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • 1. Now, no — not right before a playoff run where we’ll need depth in case of injuries. On draft day though, I’d have to think about it.

      2. In a heartbeat.

      3. Come on now.

      4. Depends what we’re getting. For a Tim Gleason, say? Kristo, Bournival and a 2nd.

      5. Not until after the playoffs — he’s been quiet all year, but Cup teams need guys like him: veteran, has a Cup ring already, good on the PK, rugged, skates decently, and can up his minutes if injuries happen.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Habilis says:

      1. No.
      2. No. (Reason behind both 1&2 is: These guys are NHL calibre players already, a 3rd round pick isn’t guaranteed to be the same.)
      3. Not on your life. There’s a reason Anderson has bounced around the NHL.
      4. Our 2nd and 3rd round picks plus one prospect not named Tinordi, Beaulieu or Dietz.
      5. Yep. Big, physical forward or a 1st round pick (considering he will be going to a playoff team and that the pick will be late)

  14. HabsWinn-ipeg says:

    Just watched the Nash hit. Targets the head with his forearm/elbow. Can’t believe he wasn’t suspended. Apparently Toronto is confused as to how Lupul got suspened but not Nash – can’t say I blame them.

  15. habstrinifan says:

    OK! Put your playoffs hats on. Let’s say we have a situation where Dumont and Blunden are the alternatives to sit or be demoted (or to put it in the positive spin I am aiming it…. to give a longer ‘tryout’).

    Which do you do…. give Blunden a look as long as Dumont got or send Blunden back. I havent looke dinto the player movemnet ramifications…. just which move serves the team better for geting playoff ready.

    • monmick says:

      Which one speaks better French?

      (Just trying to get another controversy started.)

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • johnnylarue says:

      Dumont stays. Right-handed centre, good at face-offs, defensively responsible, more offensive upside, fearless, and most importantly, speaks FLAWLESS French!

      But seriously, I’d still take him over Michel Blondain.

    • Sal from the Hammer says:


    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Dumont…much more verasatile (see above) and always noticeable. Other teams already hate his guts. If Blunden played with an edge (e.g. fought), White would be in trouble.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • B says:

      I believe Blunden is an injury replacement callup and if they don’t send him back when someone returns from an injury, then he would either have to stay up or clear waivers to go back down. Dumont is waiver exempt.

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

        I think that is true, yet Blunden has cleared waivers several times in the last few years so I don’t think he is a fetching prospect for the other teams …

        “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  16. habstrinifan says:

    I love this stufF! Please tell me I started some of it!

  17. jedimyrmidon says:

    From TSN’s Mark Masters:
    ‘Kadri on Bruins: ‘Similar style to us. It’s almost like we’re playing ourselves out there.”

    As much as I dislike the Bruins, it’s irksome to see the Leafs putting themselves in that category, which is akin to admitting that “you’re” part of a classless team, that likes to goon it up, but is also arrogant at the same time because the Leafs haven’t even made the playoffs yet and haven’t for 7 years.

  18. 25insight says:

    I’m perplexed. NHL.com’s top 8 Dmen:


    No mention of Subban? : /

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Lots of different ways to read that…

      But whichever way you choose, the bottom line is, nhl.com is mistaken and debases its own credibility by not including him in the top 8.

      Mind you, it’s only an NHL cheerleading sight, masquerading very implausibly as sports journalism.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I’m so partial when it comes to Bruins I couldn’t get past Chara as the number one. If PK is not mentioned on that list it’s because many people have not seen his play. Maybe not top 8 today but he’s getting there, and fast.

    • Marc10 says:

      Same site when rating all time greats put Ron Francis ahead of Guy Lafleur… Nuff said.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      He might be our best D, but maybe not the best D in the league yet!

    • athanor says:

      To be fair, that vote was taken a month ago after three weeks of discussion. By then, PK hadn’t had much of a chance to prove his value this season.

    • Sal from the Hammer says:

      Hockey is the only one of the big league sports that allows haters to voice their opinions as if they are not haters. CBC’s entire broadcast crew is made up mostly of haters, and, people who hold grudges against all the success of the Habs over these many years. NFL, MLB, NBA, do not as a rule, stock up on commentators who bad talk teams that they are jealous of. They are way more professional, and, they don’t bring personal grudges to their role as commentators. Not hockey, which is why it is still a bush league at the level of national broadcasting. TSN has a fairly unbiased approach to how they cover hockey, and, is the closest to US sport broadcast standards. The only other thing I would add is that US sports broadcasters, bring Hall of Famers to bring a certain credibility to their analysis of their sports. Hockey has a lot of low end talent, and, no talent guys who wax philosophical about their sport, when they don’t carry the kind of gravitas that they should, to make their opinions valid. I give you guys like PJ Stock, Heally, Millbury, Keith Jones, to name a few. The hockey airwaves are full of guys telling us about hockey that didn’t make a big enough dent as players to be credible as hockey analysts.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Sound analysis, and I never thought of it that way. Now it seems obvious:

        Howie Long……. PJStock

        100s of further examples start tumbling in.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        There is at least one thing the CBC gets right compared to a lot of US hockey broadcasters. You don’t get this in play-by-play:

        “Smith takes a pass at centre ice. Up until three weeks ago Smith was still playing left wing with the club affiliate and averaging .74 points per game and leading the team in both shots and penalty minutes after doing six weeks intensive training during the summer with conditioning specialists from MIT while he was living with his aunt Harriet Smith who played for the Kentucky State ringette team that won the national cup in 1951, and she was in studio last week to say that he always tidies up the kitchen but his wrist-shot is too slow and that he needs to OH HE SCORES!”

  19. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    FYI Kovalev coming back to Mtl for the alumni game Sunday…should be a show.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  20. Luke says:

    Remember when that Bruin coach (E: Rookie Coach Steve Kaspar)benched Neely and Oates (E: not Oates, Kevin Stevens)?
    Imagine what would happen now with Twitter and the Internet and everybody always having their pants in a bunch?

    E: Dressed, sat on the bench. Not given a single shift.


  21. Da Hema says:

    Sorry — testing emoticon code….

  22. shiram says:

    Bourque not playing tomorrow.
    Prust was shooting pucks, testing his shoulder.

  23. Morenz7 says:

    Here’s the Nash blind-sider, for those who missed it.


  24. mdp2011 says:

    So in other news today:

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie NYR and FLA have been told by NHL there will be no supplementary discipline for Rick Nash’s hit on Tomas Kopecky.

    The NHL discipline is truly a joke.

  25. Strummer says:

    “Things are different here now- we’ve got leadership”


    That was Price’s reply to PK Subban when the latter joined the team for his first practice after he signed.

    That leadership helps keep the good ship CH the juggernaut it has become.

    Therrien has to respect PK because MB is looking long term at PK’s value to the team. Correspondingly PK has to respect MT because he’s MB’s hire. MB was hired by Geoff Molson (with an assist to Serge Savard). PK and MT realize they are pieces of the larger picture, whatever differences may come up between the two.
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  26. Ian Cobb says:

    Nice JT, but I disagree with Carbo’s shortsightedness.

    Bergevin has said he was all about building this organization from top to bottom for the long term. Using the draft and the development process. I agree with that type of growth.

    Yes it is a slow drip situation as we put one new and better young part on the wheel as the older part wares out. That is precisely why we have invested millions of bucks into obtaining the finest scouting department in hockey today.

    Going out and buying a ringer or two at the expense of the new growth kids, is not the winning way to go for the long term. We are going to have a very good product on the ice every year, if we stick to drafting the best possible players and working with them over the years. When they are ready to be called, they will be, creating much more incentive and loyalty throughout the whole organization.

  27. Say Ash says:

    Did Kovalev get a penalty for hitting Tucker? He was carrying the puck and hit the guy in the chest.

  28. Da Hema says:

    Subban shows up at an optional practice. Moen does not. Speaks volumes. Perhaps Therrien should now bench the one guy on this team who really deserves it.

  29. Tis Himself says:

    Well, it’s time to strap myself in for NCAA D-1 Semi-Finals weekend. Non-stop hockey beginning right now with Wisconsin/St Cloud. BC/BU tonight along with Colorado College/Minnesota this evening. Put a chill on those Belgians!

  30. Sportfan says:

    So no Bourque, no White, no Prust -_- great….


  31. Gerry H says:

    Great post, Matty. My favourite teacher was a South African Hippy who charmed us all with stories of dropping out of the rat race and puttin’ to the man and such. I always felt cool when he centred me out because of my interest in history and knowledge of Frank Zappa records (his favourite).

    But the teacher I busted my ass for was Attila the Nun. Hard-ass, no-bullsh*t, task-mastering sadist that she was, I would gladly saw off my right arm to get her respect.

  32. Loonie says:

    I think now that Alex Kovalev has retired he should start apprenticing Michel Therrien as a Life Coach.


    • johnnylarue says:

      Alternately, I imagine Kovy, in his best pair of Pavel-Bure-rookie-card-era spandex shorts, laying down a 12’x16′ piece of white canvas tarp in Times Square, putting on a pair of roller blades, and then adroitly manoeuvring paint-soaked pucks across the surface of the tarp to create large scale portraits of celebrities like Elvis, Marilyn Monroe and Bob Marley.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Take a walk in Old Montréal?

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Just as people will forever hate Price, they will forever hate how PK is coached by MT. Have given up trying to discuss with those who know better simply because they have more bandwidth on their Internet plan.

    • ed says:

      Gerald, I just hope Subban is still here 10 years from now. Because at 33 he will STILL be in his prime.
      And Therrien will be long, long gone by then.

      I have the “unlimited” package for $10 a month more!!

      • Strummer says:

        MT certainly won’t be here in 10 years

        “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Actually, he may have been fired and re-hired by then. There are only so many French-speaking coaches available.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • oldandslo says:

            He wasn’t my first choice but given the good work he’s done so far can we show this Stanley Cup finalist coach a little bit of respect by not simply reducing him to “French-speaking” as though he’s devoid of any qualifications.
            C’mon guys he OUR coach.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            It was just a joke referring to him getting a 2nd shot this season.
            I am in awe of the work he has done.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • powdered toastmann says:

          Never ceases to amaze me how some highly esteemed (by others, or in their own minds) posters here continue to bad-mouth MT or threaten to be on him like a cheap suit as soon as he messes up by trying to make someone into a better person or bullying PK. These are the same Einsteins who raised a virtual firestorm of negatively while braying sanctimonously about Therrien being their last choice (after he was announced as new coach of the Habs).

          You all know who you are.

      • mdp2011 says:

        Yes lets hope he’s still here. We should all send angry emails to Therrien to stop hurting PK’s feelings. I saw PK on the bench in the fetal position because Therrien hit him on the back after PK made a good play. To me that was intimidation at its finest, what else could it have been? A pat on the back? No, clearly Therrien was trying to hurt PK.

    • shiram says:

      I’ve stopped over analyzing every single word Therrien utters, the result on the ice speaks for themselve.

    • Mustang says:

      Burl, you are forgetting one thing, this is Montreal and it is hockey season. There are lots of speaking heads that must say something, anything, to fill the time. 90% of what is said, is forgotten by the time the Habs win (or lose) their next game. Heaven forbit if they lose 2 in a row as that means that the world is coming to an end.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I am 100% with you Gerald.

      last time I checked PK was having his best season to date under MT. PK will resign a long term deal in the summer. I would put cash on it.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • smiley says:

      I LOVE PK. If PK was seen chatting with the Pope, Tiger Woods and Wayne Gretzky, people would say “who are those 3 guys talking to PK Subban”:).

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      My bandwidth is bigger than yours… 😉

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      If we asked for a show of hands, Who hates Price?, would we really get any? Or a number worth noting?

  34. Say Ash says:

    In honour of Kovalev’s retirement, I’ve watched his hit on Darcy Tucker at least a dozen times today, and so should you.

  35. Ian Cobb says:

    I never went to school! But I’ll say this.
    If a team is playing entertaining and winning hockey, you give credit to even the water boy as well as the whole organization!

    We have no idea about what really goes down, from the ownership moves to the dressing room plans. As it should be.
    We are not a bottom organization any more, and won’t be for a long time, now that this old Canadiens culture is back in town.

    There are silver cups at the end of this new tunnel.!!


  36. savethepuck says:

    It was originally reported Prust was expected to be out 10 days. Saturday will make it 14 days. What is the latest on his status?

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

  37. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    On a side note, my favorite football team just signed an O-lineman with a hysterical twitter account: https://twitter.com/ohrnberger
    He makes us look like amateurs when it comes to being politically incorrect…LMAO!

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  38. Old Bald Bird says:

    I don’t get what benching is supposed to accomplish in some cases. Did PK need to be benched to figure out he made a mistake? Is he so dumb that he can’t figure it out for himself? Can’t something just be said in passing without the silly disciplining? I can understand it in DD’s case as he’s been having some trouble lately on a sustained basis, but I can’t see the value or necessity for a one-off mistake like PK’s.

    • Luke says:

      Sometimes when people are making poor choices, or even just doing something incorrectly, you need to hit the reset button.

      It can be tough to break out of a routine while you are in the middle of it.

      Not every criticism is negative. Not every benching is an indictment.

      PK got benched. It’s happened in the past, it’ll happen in the future. MT sat down people he thought were playing poorly, hoped they’d snap out of it, they did and they won.

      There is no good, there is no bad, there is only how you react to a situation.

      I guess if MT wasn’t the coach these guys would be 30-0-0 not this embarassing and brutal 25-5-5.

  39. twilighthours says:

    Matty – I agree with all of what you wrote, and would add:

    great teachers don’t – at the school assembly – call out one of their students in from of the entire student body. Even if they are specifically asked about that student.

    Other than this, I love what Therrien’s doing and happy to admit I was 99% wrong about him.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Molehills = Mountains

      All he said was it was a bad penalty and we’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

      It’s not like he said PK sucks and cost us the game. I better not ever see PK making mistakes again cause PK is the root of all evil and PK doesn’t care about the team, and PK, PK, PK.

      It’s not that big a deal folks.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  40. I can’t stand the hate for PK and the pointing out his faults. He’s third in points in the league for defensemen, plus 7, can sskate, defend, do it all dammit! yet, MT and trolls call him out? You gotta be kidding. He’s not the best defensemen on the Canadiens only, he’s one of the best in the league! Let him skate already! Plus, he goes to an optional practice with the bench warmers? Wait ’til he takes the salary of a Letang or Ryan Suter!

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Jocko says:

      The “hate” for PK is just a bunch of BS that media types have been hyping just to have something to talk about. What I don’t understand, however, is the nonsense either players or ex-players say. I mean, the nonsense about his attitude and blah blah, is just garbage. Who was it, Richards that went off, just for example? Please, he had a goof and a real “class” act to look at in Pronger, one of the biggest asses in the league! You know, if you are going to rant, why don’t we say. “Hey NHL, why don’t you discipline the Bruins so as not to send the game back to the mid seventies?” Makes me sick, all the Subban crap. No thanks, I am not buying, god gave me the brain to make my own decisions. I love the kid, hell of a find in the second round!

      I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      He is playing the best hockey of his career, having a HUGE impact on a first place club, a building block moving forward, showing signs of elite status, among the best shots among NHL D, solid defensively, amazing endurance. He is poised to have a great career.

    • Mattyleg says:


      Who does this Therrien character think he is, anyway, for disciplining him?? His g-d coach or something?!
      Yeah right.

      PK should be able to do what he wants when he wants!!
      I can’t wait until he demonstrates some maturity and sits Therrien down and explains that to him!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Habsrule1 says:

      There are many fans who give PK a really hard time and I don’t get it. As far as the media goes, they are selling papers, airtime, etc. They all know that PK sells, so they pounce on every opportunity to mention his name.
      The fact is PK is THE BEST D-MAN the Habs have had in 20 years, and may prove to be the best in the NHL very shortly.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Cal says:

      So, like, overreact much?

    • B says:

      “Wait ’til he takes the salary of a Letang or Ryan Suter!”

      Letang’s salary next season is $3.5M.
      Subban’s salary next season is $3.75M.
      Letang will be a UFA after next season.
      Subban will be an RFA after next season.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  41. Strummer says:

    Today was an optional practice and PK Subban participated.
    Good on ya PK- your maturity and leadership potential is a sight to behold!

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • ed says:

      Subban is so underrated on HIO, not as a player, but as a person of character, as a hard worker, as a great team player.

      • Da Hema says:

        You and Strummer are bang-on. Subban is already an elite defenceman. 29 other teams would give anything to have him. And yet for some reason there are so many idiotic postings about him on this site. He’ll be 10 times the defenceman Markov was at his best.

        • ed says:

          and once Subban hits that stride there will be a lineup out the door to jump on the Subban bandwagon.

          of course, it will be because of the great “coaching”that Subban will have succeeded.

          it’s just ridiculous.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Why only 10 times?

          Seems like everyone here wants to underrate and cut PK down except me.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          I think Subban is playing at an elite level, but I do not think he is an elite D yet, he will be soon, After the 2013 playoffs 😉

          • Da Hema says:

            If Subban is consistently playing at an elite level, does it not stand to reason he is an elite player?

          • ed says:

            Subban was playing elite hockey when we called him up during the 2010 playoffs.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I was making a joke, about something special happening this playoffs.. I’m hyped for the playoffs!

  42. krob1000 says:

    I have it all figured out…MT is a “notherist” …he does not like others…none of em’. He is clearly racist for his treatment of PK, and is discriminatory of Franco players as he benched Dd who is not as Franco as he? he eats the odd danish but is clearly not a fan of the Great Dane, he does not like White people, even the Swiss can’t please MT.
    Either that or he is just a really good coach and is trying to have them all on the same page and playing in unison and holding them all accountable with the same collective objective in my mind……nah he is a “notherist”…seems to what people on here are suggesting anyway… let the man coach…let PK play.

    Foosball is the devil Bobby!!! the devil!!!

  43. secretdragonfly says:

    Ha! Looks like the Staal boys aren’t too old to listen to Mom :)

  44. smiley says:

    Regarding some of the comments below there are a ton of Habs fans in Ontario. I’m from Windsor originally and have lived in Toronto for 26 years. It’s like New York Yankees fans.
    Regarding Carey Price. He is going to be our star goaltender for many, many years. His pedigree and talent-not to mention his cool disposition- is ideal for Montreal.

  45. shiram says:

    Calling up Blunden to replace White clearly indicates one of the first mistake Bergevin made as a GM.
    Sure you can chalk it to depth or some other such reason, but really, there was absolutely no reason to sign Nokelainen, especially a few days before free agency began.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      He was also hurt as well…wasn’t he? Did not understand the Moen extension either. This guy is clearly not the same guy who played in Anaheim.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Bun E. Laroque says:

      Nokelainen needs to play to get in game shape. We’ll see him one of these days.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      The signing was before Dumont proved himself worthy in the AHL.

      Also, we don’t know if Nokie’s injury progressed as expected. Had Nokie been healthy from the start, we might not have seen Dumont up with the big club.

    • What mistake? A mistake costs you something — Nokelainen’s cap hit is a meagre $575k, pro-rated. Costs us nothing. And if a few fourth-liners get hurt in a row, we’ll be glad we have him.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  46. Un Canadien errant says:

    In support of Mattyleg’s post, and for those of us who view ‘discipline’ as something negative or harsh, here are some excerpts of something I posted in August.

    An aside about discipline, a word which has a negative connotation. It’s interesting that the root is the same as the root for disciples. In effect, what discipline means is to teach someone or lead someone so that they follow. A superior took the time to explain that to me once, that you’re not yelling at someone or hating on them, you’re telling them “Follow me,” and it stuck with me. When I was in a position to enforce rules on a subordinate, in effect to discipline him or her, I would keep that in the back of my mind, that I’m not punishing someone, I’m teaching them, clarifying rules and situations, so they can follow rules and leadership and be better team members.


    Michel Therrien has a well-deserved reputation as a hothead, but we can hope he has mellowed over the years. I do remember him being critical of certain players on l’Antichambre, P.K. Subban being one of them, but I mostly felt that his frustration was with the coaching régime which allowed him to get away with some of his, uh, highjinks. He implied that if he were running things, they would be handled differently. We can hope that with all the support he’ll have from management, he won’t go on any campaigns against any players. Guys like Rick Dudley and Marc Bergevin and Gerard Gallant will be valuable sounding boards.

    One hopeful thing about Mr. Therrien, if we’re to judge him on his Antichambre reputation, is that he’d caution the rest of the panel constantly, when they’d go off on a player and wanted to run him out of town, that to get rid of a player was the easiest thing to do. The hardest thing, he would repeat, is to find players, so when you have a player, you’re patient with him, you coach and coach some more, and repeat yourself constantly. Michel Bergeron would grumble but agree, and he would chime in that this was essentially a coach’s job, to say something, then repeat it, then repeat it the next day, and not get frustrated about repeating yourself day after day. Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz had a shtick he used to do where he’d talk to players about doing something one way, or running a drill one way, and when it would finally happen, days or weeks or months later, he would pull his ‘famous fainting act’ as his players called it, and drop to the turf, stunned that they’d finally gotten it.

    So while I’m far from being a fan or booster of Michel Therrien, there are signs that he gets it, and that if he does ‘discipline’ P.K., he’ll be doing so out of a desire to see him succeed, rather than just out of a disdain for him and to run him out of town.


  47. Rudy says:

    I think MT and PK should go see the guy Eller went to so they can have couples counselling

  48. Bun E. Laroque says:

    Therrien is a great coach (clearly). Subban is a great player (seems obvious). Its a great combination.

    • Strummer says:

      Their relationship will improve when you consider it’s barely 2 months old with a demanding game schedule that further complicates things.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  49. krob1000 says:

    SOS…SOS…..Snoop Lion and Loonie Lion…please refer Timo to your spiritual advisors!!! I can see it now… Timo Tiger is positive, listening to reggae music and just enjoying the Habs!!!

    Meanwhile HIO revenue streams dwindle as comments are cut in half….

  50. 24 Cups says:

    Halpern on waivers. Is he too little, too late for the Habs as a depth player for the playoffs?

  51. Mattyleg says:

    Okay, I have to get this off my chest.

    I assume everyone on here went to school.

    Who was your favourite teacher? Was it the teacher who was great fun and had easy classes, and you didn’t really learn anything, and he marked really easily and everyone kind of laughed at him?

    Or was it the teacher who was tough on you and even-handed across the board, and who didn’t play favourites? The one who gave you extra-bad marks for things that you had just mailed in, but gave you extra-good ones for stuff you’d obviously worked hard on?

    And when you left his class with good marks, you were proud of yourself because you’d worked for those goddamn marks.

    It’s obviously a rhetorical question.

    Therrien is running this team like a tight ship. He isn’t playing favourites, he is being equally hard on everyone, and equally rewarding.

    PK gets a lot of media attention, and that is probably annoying for a coach who is trying to encourage a ‘team-first’ atmosphere. But he also knows it’s not PK’s fault.

    As for the player, if he is so weak that he is going to run away from the Habs because he isn’t treated like the star he believes he is (see Ovechkin, Alex; Miller, Ryan) and because he doesn’t think that he deserves criticism every now and then, then b’bye.

    PK’s tougher than that, and seeing people in here wringing their hands because of Big Bad Michel’s treatment of him is actually undermining their position on him. If he’s tough enough, he’ll learn from it, as he should.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Agree 100%. That’s exactly how Subban, Therrien and anybody with half a brain sees it.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        What is with the attacks (“personal agendas”) and insults (“half a brain”)? People are not allowed to perceive and interpret the comments from a press conference different than you guys? MT has had a history of saying the wrong things in the media (BTW find me an example of “immature” PK saying something wrong). Many of us did not feel what MT said was right after the Buffalo game. He should have kept that too himself. Who cares what we or the media think? Last night they had an another altercation but he kept his opinion to himself which was the right thing to do. Sorry for expressing my opinion…did not mean to offend you.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • Loonie says:


          I half agree with you on this. The Sabres game was a team loss. The blame game if it’s going to be played should go well beyond Subban(Markov, Desharnais and Pacioretty) and I personally am not a fan of the coach discussing an individual player’s negative performance with the media.

          Having said that if it doesn’t bother PK Subban then I’m cool. These two men need to earn each other’s respect and judging by their words and actions that’s happened.

        • mdp2011 says:

          “Last night they had an another altercation..”

          Really? Do you have any proof of this altercation?

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            It’s in the article above…MT benched PK.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Loonie says:

            He benched Desharnais too.

        • Mattyleg says:

          I don’t think he called him out, he was asked about him, and he said that it would be dealt with internally, and that would be the end of it.

          Not answering any question is Tortorella’s thing!

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Loonie says:

            Actually, saying Subban’s lazy and doesn’t know what it takes to win games would have been the Torts way.

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            We perceived the statement differently…that’s all. This is why JM never said anything to the media. There is nothing to gain from it. As for Fonzie…he is is in a whole different league…

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • ed says:

          agree with you DDO Habs Fan. 100%

    • Loonie says:

      This message has been brought to you by Travis Moen.


      Just kidding Matty. Good post.

    • 24 Cups says:

      That depends, Matty. Are we talking about the teachers I had in my first year of Grade 13 or my second year of Grade 13?

    • mdp2011 says:

      Excellent analogy Matty. It’s funny to think that PK is thriving under Therrien, playing the best hockey of his career and playing like a Norris trophy defenceman, maybe Therrien really does know what he is doing.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Well Said Matty

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Bripro says:

      What if you were the teacher’s pet?
      Does that make a difference? We had apple orchards back then.

    • derfab says:

      Undermining what position? Perhaps at the level of abstraction. Then again, all of this is rather solipsistic and virtual is it not? So I guess we can all play along and pretend that someone on the ice or behind the bench actually cares what anyone else says.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Um, let me explain.

        The people who think that Subban is a great player but worry excessively that the coach is mean to him and will ruin him are, in doing this, showing that they don’t think that PK is actually a great player because a great player wouldn’t let things like this get to him.

        And don’t get me wrong, beyond joking, I beleive that anything that we say on here is considered not at all by the people we’re talking about.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Loonie says:

          K, now I’m calling bollocks.

          Aaron Rodgers, the best quarterback in the NFL who also enjoyed the best season in the history of the NFL as a quarterback, is notoriously sensitive.

          His predecessor, also notoriously sensitive, shattered a few of Dan Marino’s records.

          Greatness doesn’t require being devoid of emotion, it’s how you deal with the emotions.

          I could easily make an argument that Subban could be insulted and yet use it as a motivational tool that has produced the player we’ve seen lately.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Well it doesn’t matter how the player FEELS about it, but how he reacts to those feelings.

            If he is insulted or angry, or whatever, that’s fine. If he uses that to get better, then he’s succeeded, and he’s a great player. If he takes those feelings and sulks over them, then congratulations, you are Andrei Kostytsin.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Loonie says:


    • Ozmodiar says:

      >I assume everyone on here went to school.


      When people fret over how a player will react to the odd comment or benching I think it’s just a reflection of how they would react to it themselves.

      These guys are professionals and should be able to handle it (see: Eller, PK). If not, then maybe they don’t really belong on THIS team (see: Grabovski).

      • Mattyleg says:

        Oz hits it out of the park again.
        And doesn’t need 1,000 words to do it, neither.

        (oh, and by ‘went to school’, I meant ‘spent time in an educational institution’)

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I am thoroughly searching my brain to decide if any teacher made me a better person. 😉

  52. krob1000 says:

    THis PK stuff is getting ridiculous…
    Under MT the team is doing the best it has since Lafleur was around for God Sakes.
    Under MT Subban is developing into a Norris caliber dman….look at his point totals! are they suffering? How about his defensive play and risk taking…are they as frequent? No…and there is no reduction in offensive production…the guy is learning on the fly while having a career year. Wher did his long wind up go? has he stopped trying to force things offensively?Is he rushing as often leaving his teammates to stop while he goes it alone?

    MT has done an incredible job and PK is and will continue doing an incredible job….they are helping each other help the team..all that matters.

    • Timo says:

      Well, Habs finished first in the conference once with Carbo as well. And what? If Therrien wins us the cup it’s one thing. So far he has team playing well (which the should given the money they are being paid) and playoffs are still almost 2 months away. Will see what happens in the second round.

      • ZepFan2 says:

        Crossing your fingers and toes in hope the Habs lose in the playoffs, eh.

        Ka is a wheel.

        For Your Life

      • krob1000 says:

        Carbo had a hodge podge of clics..and a problem communicating. MT appears to not have those issues. I like many of the guys that Carbo did not like ..but it is easy to understand when you have a perrennial Sleke winner as a coach coaching Sergei, Andrei, Kovy and Ryder,etc …problems were kind of inevitable.
        See what happens in the second round? Does that not make you happy to even be talking about what will happen in the second round? This was a lottery pick team!!

        You need to talk to Snoop Lion and Loonie Lion about positive thiking and visit their spiritual advisor to discover your spirit animal and become more positive!!! lol

      • mdp2011 says:

        You’re a ray of sunshine Timo.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We have two groups talking at cross-purposes here, refusing to hear the other side out, or to see the logic in anything they say.

      P.K. is having a monster start to the season, and his trajectory seems to be climbing. Awesome. I’m tickled. But somehow it’s controversial to two factions.

      One group uses this evidence to state that the management team and the team itself are doing a great job of pointing P.K. in the right direction, and that P.K. is buying in and thriving in this new environment.

      The other group is using the same evidence to prove that management is completely wrong in how it’s handling him, is boneheaded in not handing him a long-term contract this summer while the going was good and we could have shaved a million or so off his yearly cap hit, and that the benchings and discipline and curbing of the showier side of his personality are killing him and are ill-advised.

  53. L Elle says:

    Too bad about White, but:


    Loved a good team in this city,
    Cheerin’ for the Men ev’ry night and day,
    And I never lost one minute of sleepin’,
    Worryin’ ’bout the way things might have been.

    Habs team keep on learnin’
    Proud fans keep on yearnin’
    Winnin’ winnin’ winnin’ helps my liver.

    Listened to tons of Price dissin’
    Read a lot of grit and height from size queens
    But I never saw the good mood of the city,
    ‘Til I hitched a ride on the Stanley Cup teams


    Winnin’ winnin’ winnin’ helps my liver.

    If you can’t be excited and quiver
    Bet you gonna find people calling sieve
    You don’t have to worry ’cause Habs made the playoffs
    People and their team are happy to live.


    Winnin’ winnin’ winnin’ helps my liver.
    Winnin’ winnin’ winnin’ helps my liver.
    Winnin’ winnin’ winnin’ helps my liver.

  54. habstrinifan says:

    My pro Blunden Karma is finally working. I didnt wish White ill just wished Blunden goodwill. Hope he gets maybe 4 games minimum.

    • Luke says:

      Blunden’ll be super motivated now that Armstrong has one more career point (in like 10 fewer games!!) than he does.

      I predict, 4gp, 0 points. No no no… I sense a hot streak. 4gp, 1 assist.

  55. secretdragonfly says:

    Looks like our old friend D’Agostini has worn out his welcome in St. Louis.


  56. Mattyleg says:

    As per Subby getting revenge on MT, John Lu tweets:
    “Subban on Therrien: “He’s been great for me. I’ve enjoyed playing for him… I’m getting better everyday.”

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Timo says:

      Subban is smart enough not to air dirty laundry in front of the cameras.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Unlike MT earlier this week…at least he kept his mouth closed last night when Hickey tried to bait him…not just PK who is learning to change…

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • The Jackal says:

        That’s so easy to say for any player… come one man, how can you buy into that unfounded narrative? There is no evidence at all, just speculation. Why is PK playing better under MT?
        Just like the BS that his teammates were sick of him… that proved to be correct… not.

        PK is a great player, he will be awesome for us, and MT has been doing well with us too. He hasn’t thrown PK under the bus or anything like that, yet the rumours remain… they’re just rumours.

        • habstrinifan says:

          He kinda did only couple days ago… didnt he.

          • Mattyleg says:

            I get the feeling that MT would have done that to any player.
            But people will read their personal agendas into it regardless.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            That is not fair. Speaking for myself, I don’t have a personal agenda. I’ve never met MT or PK. I have an opinion based upon my perception of what was said and how it was said. If you disagree with it, fine…but don’t question my motivation behind it. Just because someone has a different opinion than you does not mean that person has an alternative motive. I respect you and others enough not to question your motivations if I disagree with you.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            He didn’t. We’re overusing the term ‘throwing somebody under the bus’, and bending its meaning beyond recognition. It doesn’t mean to speak critically of someone. The accepted definition is to blame a teammate or coworker for something to absolve yourself of the same blame. Strictly, this didn’t happen. Michel Therrien answered a question that was posed to him briefly and professionally. We could all move on, except that this is HIO, and now that Jaroslav Halak is doing poorly, our most pressing matter is to protect the honour of those two offended virgins Lars Eller and P.K. Subban.

        • Timo says:

          I am not trying to change anyone’s opinion on this matter. This is what it looks like and concerns me. Hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

          • ZepFan2 says:

            You are wrong. Just like you were wrong last night. I believe that you’re batting a 1000% at being wrong.

            Keep up the good work.

            Ka is a wheel.

            For Your Life

          • The Jackal says:

            I think you’re reading too much into the media tidbits and what has been reported. It’s all unfounded and based on these glimpses we see, if something was going on, I don’t think PK would be playing as well as he is.

    • habstrinifan says:

      You should read some of the good things my wife says about me in public.

  57. Phil C says:

    George Stroumboulopoulos is a Habs fan. Who knew? He talks about being a Habs fans in Toronto and his take on their success so far.

    Edit: Who knew? I guess everyone but me :-)

  58. 24 Cups says:

    Assuming the Habs have a full line-up (up front), players such as White, Dumont and Noke will be in the press box. I can’t remember the last time Noke played a game and the two younger players are up and down in terms of being steady for an extended playoff run. With that in mind, maybe MB should be looking at picking up a jack of all trades.

    • krob1000 says:

      I think those spots whould be for insurance purposes…we need people filling spots that could be our most vulnerable. Fortunately we are pretty deep. We have Galchenyuk and the offesnive centers can all be bumped up if necessary. Fourth liner grinder depth is there but I would like to see a 15 goal type guy able to play on that line. On D we need one physical insurance guy and if Diaz is hurt and they are pprotecting Kaberle for a buyout then we need another pp capable guy like Streit or Whitney.

      If one is available it also may not be a bad idea to pick up another vet goalie….if Price went down and it was Budaj/Tokarksi…that would be a little scary. If the intentions of a deep run are real…and they should be..addressing any of those dpeth spots whould be the priority IMO.

      Thsoe are the only real weakness…the team has wingers who can play either side, wingers who can play center…Kaberle IMO is the D insurance but if another option presented itself that was better ..ie Streit/Whitney I think I do it.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Rob – If Price goes down then the ship goes down with him. He’s our only hope of pulling off a miracle this year. I doubt that Budaj, or any other vet goalie, could save the Habs from sinking.

        I forgot about Streit when we talked this morning about veteran Dmen to possibly replace Diaz. Streit’s an UFA, +35 contract this summer so I don’t think the price would be high in terms of a trade. Maybe a 3rd rounder like Eric Brewer two years ago.

        • krob1000 says:

          That is exactly why it is a postiion that should be addressed.
          Someone like Khabibulin or Theodore could be had for peanuts and we are very vulnerable and they are not terrible goalies. If Phoenix slid…Mike Smith. I am not sure how that works…could you trade for a guy and send him to the AHL without clearing waivers as it is a trade? I would not want to disrupt the BUdaj/Price chemistry but IF PRice went down…what happens if Budaj stumbles or gets hurt too. I think an insurance policy is in order there.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Isn’t Nokia gone?

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Just a note that Mr. Nokelainen is in Hamilton playing with the Bulldogs right now.

  59. Hobie Hansen says:

    We are first place in the North East partly because Michel Therrien holds players accountable for their mistakes by benching them for a few shifts, periods or a game or two.

    Thank you Michel!

    End of story.

  60. commandant says:

    Could the Columbus Blue Jackets make the playoffs?


    Go Habs Go!
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  61. Bripro says:

    The star classic on the weekend featuring the Habs against the NHL old timers will include Alex Kovalev.
    I guess he had to retire first, in order to qualify.
    Anyone going?

    • Mattyleg says:

      I was invited, and would have loved to go, but we’re having a brunch for my daughter’s 2nd birthday.

      I know… my priorities are messed.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Bripro says:

        Your baby’s second?
        Here’s a refreshing perspective from an old man.
        Whether your priorities are messed up or not, I agree with them.
        Keep them that way. She’ll always love you for it.
        Good for you buddy!

        • Mattyleg says:

          I know it for sure. I was just messing.
          Cheers Bri.
          She’s an absolute doll.
          Even when she cries from midnight until 3am as she has for the past couple of nights…
          Still love her to pieces when she jumps on my head the next morning yelling ‘Daddy! Daddy!’

          She’ll come along for a visit at the next summit.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Bripro says:

            Can’t wait.
            A piece of advice, make sure she’s digested her food before climbing on your head.
            Otherwise…. not pretty. And it smells funny too.

          • Mattyleg says:


            —Hope Springs Eternal—

  62. Timo says:

    Therrien benched Subban last night? That’s great. Subban is just going to keep his mouth shut but will give MB and MT a big FU at the end of the next season.

    • Mattyleg says:

      What, so that he can go to a team where the coach will never motivate him or drive him to be his best?

      That would be very wise.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Timo says:

        You cannot possible disagree that Therrien’s dislike for Subban is pretty clear. And if it’s clear to a naked eye by watching a game on TV or interviews, it is probably much worse behind the closed doors. Motivation is one thing, but I think it’s important for a player to know that his coach stands behind him. Subban is not making mistakes because he is lazy or just decides to take a game off (Hello DD).

        He is a player that has to be managed but it seems like Therrien’s personal feelings for Subban will run him out of here (to me at least it seems that way). As far as I am concerned, Subban is playing great hockey not because of Therrien but despite Therrien.

        • The Jackal says:

          Don’t think that’s clear at all, it’s just another controversy that is supposedly out there…. because of some comments that were lost in translation and because MT holds players accountable. Supposedly that makes him dislike him… just like his teammates do, right?

          It’s all a bunch of BS.

        • Mattyleg says:

          I disagree completely.

          There is nothing more damaging to a player with star potential than to be treated like a star. PK is showing that he has the stomach for the NHL by responding positively to the coach’s message.

          Therrien wants him to improve his play in certain areas, and he expresses this by letting PK sit on the bench for a bit. Tortorella calls people out in the media. I’d prefer MT’s version.

          Do you think that Ryder is going to give the Habs the heave-ho because Therrien benched him? Not at all.

          Hockey players know how things work. They’re not going to cry over having missed a few shifts. They’d understand that a message is being sent.

          Do you think that Scotty Bowman was universally loved? Toe Blake? The players knew that those coaches knew how to win, and that if they wanted to win, they’d stick with them.

          Like PK will.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • krob1000 says:

          I do not see that at all….I see a coach who runs a very tight ship and cannot compromise the accountability he has established with PK. The dilemma is that PK is the teams most talented player …but he is still growing as are the other younger guys. So he can let PK be PK…but then it will upet the chemistry and accountability. Why can’t Eller be Eller? why can’t DD be DD?,etc. I agree with his handling of the young star…the more fine tuned PK’s game the better going forward.
          HE is till getting tons of the best minutes and most important minutes….despite being benched he still played as much as anyone not named MArkov (within 30 seconds) and if he weren;t benched he would have surpassed them.
          The Habs know what they have…and the team comes first…NO EXCEPTIONS …Norris candidate or not.
          In 5 years PK will be granted some leeway.

        • HardHabits says:

          You cannot possible disagree that Timo’s dislike for Therrien is pretty clear. And if it’s clear to a naked eye by reading his comments day in and day out here at HIO, it is probably much worse over a few beers. Criticism is one thing, but I think it’s important for a person to know that none of his arguments stands behind reason. Timo is not making good points because he is rational, no he just decides to take the easy route (hello heard that 1000 times already).

          Timo is a poster that has to be heard again and again but it seems like his personal feelings for Therrien will run him out of here (remember Boone already banished him once). As far as I am concerned, Timo is complaining constantly not because he actually knows anything about hockey but despite the fact.

        • Habitforming says:

          I can see it too Timo. Just look at PK’s face when Therrien gives him a pat on the back last night after scoring…. if looks could kill we would need a new coach.

    • kholdstare says:

      His perogative, they will get a lot for him or make him sit an entire season. They hold the cards for now, when he eventually hits UFA, he can do whatever he pleases though.

    • The Jackal says:

      Just another bandied about, specious-ass rumour.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Ya, Subban had 3 giveaways in the 1st period.

    • Bripro says:

      Subban was benched for his brain-dead penalty-induced too-many-men-on-the-ice move.
      But so was DD’s line for the last 3 shifts of the second.
      Does this mean that DD, Max and Gally will be flipping him the bird too?
      It certainly looked in the 3rd like MT’s coaching move paid dividends.

    • otter649 says:

      Subban will be a RFA when his current contract ends so FU to MB & MT is a bit premature……

  63. kempie says:

    I’d put a claim on Halpern.

  64. Bripro says:

    There’s no much to report, but here’s the latest trade tracker.

  65. habsfan0 says:

    Is there a direct flight from Hamilton to Montreal?
    Or does Blunden always have to make the trek into Toronto?
    Or perhaps,he flies out of Buffalo.

  66. habstrinifan says:

    Note who’s on the ice for optional skate. P.K. Subban. I pointed out this trend before.

    • Gerry H says:

      He’s a better person, don’t you think?

      • commandant says:

        PK has always been on the ice for optional skates throughout his career.

        Him and Tomas Plekanec have always been among the first on the ice and the last off the ice for normal practices too.

        Not being willing to work hard has never been one of PK’s faults.

        Its the same trend that Alex Galchenyuk is already showing as well, and thats a good thing.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • habstrinifan says:

          Hey Commandant… how ya doing. Always great to obtain a look-in by you and response. I have been missing the authoritative Commandant lately. Maybe was just my impression but seems you had lost your zeal a bit. Thanks for the correction … although I don’t recall his name appearing on optional skates list as often last year.

    • habsfan0 says:

      If PK didn’t show up for optional skate,MT might have blasted him..again.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      He really has adopted a less flashy, more workmanlike approach this season, and it’s paying off in spades for him and the team. I’m so happy with how he’s harnessing his potential, it’s crazy.

      Plus, I got him on my fantasy team in the seventh round or so, really cheap, and he’s saving me, especially since I lost my first-round pick Erik Karlsson.

      • habstrinifan says:

        And here I thought you liked him cause he was a “better person” while all along was cause he was a better fantasy.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          trini, I think I’ll embark on a magnum opus of a post recapping P.K.’s difficult last season compared to this one. As always, I’ll focus on his behaviours, and how he corrected those this season, with help from team veterans and the coaching staff, and how in the end he and the team benefits, and how he’ll rake in the cash in his next contract as a consequence.

    • kholdstare says:

      let it go i was told, everyone else has.

  67. Danno says:

    Kovalev retires


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

    • 24 Cups says:

      Just to clarify, Kovalev was never sent packing to Ottawa. Gainey offered him a two year deal and Kovalev demanded three. The Habs signed Gionta and then Kovy took what he could find. He was a complete, total bust in Ottawa as he basically packed it in.

      Such a gifted player, he could have had career stats similar to Jagr.

      Fate has a funny way of impacting a final outcome. Gainey offered Kovy and Komo long term deals even after the 2008-09 debacle. They turned their back on him for 30 pieces of silver. Now they both see their careers ending with embarrassment.

  68. Gerry H says:

    Hey, I’m loving the fact that the Bruins’ two games prior to their match with the Habs next week are a home-and-home with the Leafs. Bring on the truculence!

    • Mattyleg says:

      Game one will be full of fisticuffs; game two will be tentative.
      Once they play us, they won’t know who they are.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  69. Bripro says:

    First? Oh… second.
    Thanks Matty.

  70. Mattyleg says:

    Therrien on Gallagher: “Il vient à l’aréna avec ses bottes de travail et sa boîte à lunch. Il ne vient pas en talons hauts.”
    Tweeted by Basu

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  71. jimmy shaker says:

    All of which can be done without the media bashing and the benching. This guy is a spark plug, a firecracker, and mistakes are going to happen regardless of age, experience etc. etc. Point is, MT needs pull back on his reigns just a tad, and let PK be PK and play. He’s been great this year, no need to take away any of his mojo or swag…….just a sidenote too…..ever since MT lambasted White, he’s been a shell of his former self and is afraid to hit anyone let alone get into a scrap. Anyhow, he’s been a great coach in every other situation.


  72. The Jackal says:

    None of that is happening. Chill out.

  73. Mr. Biter says:

    A simple “Tabernac” would suffice.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  74. Clay says:

    ‘Jesus Christ’ is a ‘swear’ now? Is this from the “don’t take the ‘lord’s’ (lol) name in vain” school of thought?

    ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

  75. Sportfan says:

    I have no idea I’m only going to the bar now 😛


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