Bourque to Colorado trade falls through: reports; Leblanc returned to Hamilton

After missing Monday’s practice while battling the flu, Louis Leblanc took part in Tuesday’s morning skate in Brossard as the Canadiens prepared to face the Carolina Hurricanes Tuesday night at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., RDS, TSN Radio 690).

However, on Tuesday afternoon the Canadiens announced that Leblanc was being returned to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs.

Brandon Prust didn’t take part in the morning skate, instead having a therapy session, but will play against the Hurricanes. George Parros will take Leblanc’s spot in the lineup, while defencemen Francis Bouillon and Raphael Diaz will be healthy scratches.

TVA Sports reported Monday night that Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin turned down a trade offer from Colorado that would have sent Rene Bourque to the Avalanche in exchange for P.A. Parenteau. However, Francois Gagnon of RDS reported it was the Avalanche that rejected the offer. TVA reported that negotiations between the two teams were ongoing.

Bourque didn’t speak to reporters at Tuesday’s morning skate.

Carey Price will start in goal for the Canadiens and Justin Peters will be in net for the Hurricanes.

The Hurricanes, coming off a 3-2 win over the Columbus Blue Jackets Monday night in Carolina, have won four in a row, while the Canadiens have lost four straight. Tuesday’s game will be the fifth in seven days for the Hurricanes.

“The Hurricanes is a team which works extremely hard,” Canadiens coach Michel Therrien told reporters in Brossard after the morning skate. “They have two good lines, centred by the Staal brothers. This give two powerful combinations which put a lot of pressure on their opponents.

“Preparation is really important, and I felt that we had a good practice yesterday and a good skate this morning as well, which will help us be at our best tonight,” the coach added. “The NHL is a league with a lot of parity among its teams. Every team has something to prove on a given night, and being well prepared is going to give us the best chance to succeed.”

In eight games with the Canadiens this season, Leblanc failed to register a point. In 36 games with Hamilton, he has nine goals and 11 assists.

Here’s how the Habs’ lines and defence pairings are expected to look against the Hurricanes:

Eller-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Prust-Briere-Bourque
Moen-Bournival-Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Beaulieu

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Habs, Avalanche trade reportedly falls through, TSN.ca

Parenteau given Monday night off by Roy, Denver Post

Canadiens assign Leblanc to Bulldogs, hamiltonbulldogs.com

Habs vs. Hurricanes preview, NHL.com

Game Day Report, Canadiens.com

Post-practice interviews (video), Canadiens.com

Habs could slip out of playoff spot, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

‘This isn’t rock bottom,’ Pacioretty says, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Is Carey Price mentally tough enough? Sportsnet.ca

Canadiens staying calm in midst of a storm, NHL.com

10 NHL goalies have more assists than Habs’ Bourque, Stu on Sports blog

Staal brothers rally Hurricanes over Blue Jackets, Raleigh News & Observer

Habs prospect Hudon deals with hectic month, NHL.com

 

433 Comments

  1. sheds88 says:

    Is Sportsnet ( not owned by Bell ) promoting ” let’s talk ” day today. it owuld be a shame if they aren’t because of the main sponsor

    • Luke says:

      I dunno. But TSN is tweeting & retweeting the heck out of it.

      I actually don’t follow any Sportsnet folks. And no one has retweeted one of them at me.

    • Ron says:

      A few I follow on twitter do not..strange that you mentioned that so I looked back, Mirtle, Dreger etc do not. Pitty since it a good cause. Some of the Sun newspaper dicks have not as well.

  2. boing007 says:

    MT has juggled the lines so much this season that one would think that he would have eventually arrived at some good combinations. Apparently not.

    Richard R

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Goes to show that the issue is with the players also.
      IMO, Bergevin has more work to do than Therrien.
      Therrien is doing ok with what he has to work with.
      Where is his obvious #1 centre? Anyone? Hello? McFly?
      The top 6 forwards on this team are not exactly stars…with the exception of Pacioretty, in my opinion.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  3. krob1000 says:

    Anyone wonder if Mathieu Darche would make a good coach someday?

    • Ron says:

      I think he should look for an AHL spot as an assistant, learn the ropes and progress from there. Not sure whether he would make it to the NHL but he can only try. Always seemed like a smart team first guy.

    • Habilis says:

      Not really, no.

      IMHO, in order to be a great NHL coach, you need to eat, sleep and breathe hockey. You need to see line combos and PP formations in your dreams. You need to be thinking about your team all the time. Basically, it needs to be the only job on the planet that you could see yourself in.

      I’m exaggerating for effect, but only a little. Think about the really great coaches in the league today: Babcock, Julien, Quenneville, Hitchcock, etc. These guys are all hockey, all the time.

      Darche just doesn’t seem like that kind of guy to me. If he were, he probably wouldn’t work for Delmar.

    • BJ says:

      I think he’s smarter than that……

    • Mattyleg says:

      Krob, I don’t want to alarm you, but you seem to be suffering from ‘Maguiritis’. This is a syndrome where, after having seen a certain person on television enough, you begin to believe that they might be good at either coaching or management.

      It’s totally curable: just remind yourself that Therrien sat in exactly the same chair as Darche.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  4. krob1000 says:

    Sometimes a major line changing does some good in that it forces guys to wokr hard and play simple hockey…do all of the rightthings and not overthink or overcomplicate their games….on one hand I am glad to see Briere in the middle and Bourque on RW…on the other hand I still see the same top 2 lines who have struggled to produce. Eller out of position again and the duos of DD/Patches and PLeks?Gio still in order….would like to see a complete overhaul to shake things up. MB tried a trade to rattle things it seems but at some point MT has to make some serious adjustments…a team is only as good as it’s best players….continuously putting those players in situations taht are notleading to success makes me wonder what the objective really is. Worst part…I expect against Carolina they do produce…but that doesn’t mean they can or will produce agaist better teams….

  5. veryhabby says:

    Oh well, looks like we will be rolling out 3 lines in this game :(

  6. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Habs have Emelin signed for four more and Markov likley to be resigned for a couple years. Other than language, the one other major similarity shared is the kneee injuries.

    Noticed a few posters hoping that MB can somehow get the Wiz back in Habville.

    Not sure if you remember – he had as many knee surgeries as the two mentioned above combined, and he has several suspensions in the NHL – very undisciplined Dman. He was a great temp acquisition, and then went for the big$$, no way in hades do I think his $$ value would be worth considering.

    • mushalain says:

      Wow you serious? The Wiz is a cap hit of 5.5 million. While Emelin will be a cap hit of 4.1 million. Add Murray (worst dmen in habs history along with Peter Popovic) at 1.5 million.

      Ill take the Wiz anyday. Piss poor management if you ask me.

  7. Steeltown Hab says:

    Only Ryan White has had more defensive zone starts than Briere.

    Therrien knows how to put players in a position to fail.

    - Eller on the wing
    - Emelin, Beaulieu wrong side
    - Markov leading ice time and first wave PK (can’t rest this guy a bit??)
    - Leblanc, Nattinen, limited minutes in opportunities to shine

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • mushalain says:

      You are 100% right on all fronts mentioned. Very frustrating has a fan to see Thierien’s lack of hockey iq. How the hell did this guy even make it this far as a coach. He must be quite the salesman.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Maybe Therrien is a double agent coach and is really working for the Leafs. His real job is to tank enough so the Leafs can get into the play offs

      Habfan17

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Perhaps he is working for that Karl Peladeau fellow, and by destroying the Habs he is creating more market demand for the return of the Nordiques, in fact public pressure will be so strong, Mr. Peladeau will have franchise fees, arenas fees covered by the government.

        • Habfan17 says:

          He is a double knot spy like Jethro Beaudine!

          You gave me a great idea. As part of the expansion fee, Paladeau would have to take Therrien, Briere, Murray and Boullion and give the Habs a $10 million dollar encroachment fee along with their first ever pick! lol

          Habfan17

    • Habsrule1 says:

      That stuff happens on other teams too. don’t know how many times I’ve heard players say they will play anywhere…it doesn’t matter to them.

      If Eller is incapable of doing something, ANYTHING, on the wing, then he’s showing that he’s not willing to work. I prefer him at centre too, but that’s not in the cards right now, so show your true value by working harder. I see him as either a 3rd line winger one day, in Montreal or elsewhere.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  8. habsguru says:

    Drafted behind Patches (#22) in 2007

    #23 – AHL
    #24 – 9/12/21 this year with Flames, 32 Career goals
    #25 – no 2013/2014 stats, never played in NHL
    #26 – 21/17/38 – DM David Perron
    #27 – 1/12/13 in 42 games w/ DET
    #28 – AHL
    #29 – AHL
    #30 – plays in AUSTRIA!!!

    i don’t think we missed the boat here, and Max may even be an over achiever

    • TheDagger says:

      Now do guys ahead of him. That will show even better that he was a good pick.

      • GrimJim says:

        #14 – 8/28/36 in 50 games w St Louis
        #15 – plays in Austria
        #16 – AHL
        #17 – The Russian Kid who passed away – God Rest His Soul
        #18 – 2/6/8 in 34 games w ST Louis
        #19 – plays in Austria (sensing a trend)
        #20 – Also Austria (you might recognize the name Angelo Esposito)
        #21 – 6/6/12 in 43 w Carolina

  9. Ian Cobb says:

    IAN”S NEWS WIRE REPORTING!

    Canadiens trade, Bourque, Boullion, and Therrien for
    P.A. Parenteau and Patrick Roy!

  10. mushalain says:

    Why on earth does MT have Eller playing wing. It’s painfully obvious that he doesn’t fit there. Maybe Bergevin needs to sit MT in the stands to get a bird eyes view.

    • rljmartin says:

      Press Box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • adadi says:

      All part of MT’s secret plan.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      You’d think he’d be a perfect fit for that 3rd line centre spot….if Briere was sitting or waived…or traded (ya, right).

      I really hope that after the trade deadline, our line-up consists of the core players, 2 or 3 veteran leaders (Markov & Plekanec) and a few kids from Hamilton.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • munch17 says:

      RFA.
      Good negotiation ploy by Habs.
      Put him in position not to succeed!!

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        If I’m another team I offer sheet Eller 100%, 4 mil, give up a second get a stud.
        ———————————

        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

        • Habsrule1 says:

          I really like Eller, but he’s not a stud and he will not get an offer sheet. He’ll probably max out as a good 3rd line centre….maybe 2nd line on a weak team.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • boing007 says:

            A weak team like the Montreal Canadiens?

            Richard R

          • Habsrule1 says:

            lol…was waiting for that. Personally, I’m hoping to See Galchenyuk as our 1st line centre, maybe next year, and Plekanec or someone better as our 2nd, then Plekanec or Eller as our 3rd. Obviously, I’d prefer to have someone worthy obtained to be 1st line centre until Galchenyuk is ready if he’s not next season.

            I’d be ok with trading Pleks or Eller for a nice return….I think Plekanec could get us a lot and Eller reminds me of a younger Plekanec.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • DipsyDoodler says:

          Honestly mate, if you were another NHL team you’d make Garth Snow and Kevin Lowe look like modern day Sam Pollocks.

  11. rljmartin says:

    Was not going to post today but seeing Parros with Bourni and Moen is just too much. Moen and Bourni have actually played well in the sense that they actually show up every game. Moen had one brain fart in Ottawa and has been a second class citizen ever since. So now they are on a line that might play 5 minutes. In this NHL, you need 4 lines….. go figure….
    Prediction, it will be another tough night.

    • Luke says:

      That line’ll play ~10 minutes. Parros will play ~5 minutes.

      Parros does not play every shift ‘his’ line does.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Like, isn’t that part of the problem? I’d love to see Bournival get some important minutes. Looks like it will be another 6 minute night for him.

        • Luke says:

          Bounival isn’t going to bump any of those top 6. I’d like to see him get more time as well. I like his game. Bergeron-y.

          I reckon he’ll get 8-10mins. He kills penalties too, does he not? Those are important minutes. Or does my flu have me all hallucinating?

          But he’s not going to bump Max, Gally, Eller or Gio to get the bigger minutes.

          Montreal’s player composition is a mess.

          A third line of Moen – Bournival – Prust would suit my fancy.

          Eventually, (next season) I’d like to see Bournival as a 2nd line winger.
          Max – Eller – Bournival or Bournival – Galchenyuk – Max.
          Something like that…

          • HabinBurlington says:

            We can at least be thankful he has pretty much been in the lineup most of the year, and hasn’t been riding buses in Hamilton.

            You are very correct when you state our current player composition is a mess. Too many players who share the same skillsets…..

    • Habsrule1 says:

      There are too many bodies. I’d love to have DD, Plek, Eller, Bournival, and Briere all playing centre, but that’s 2 more lines than we need.

      In a perfect world (and hopefully in the future), our centres will be:

      Galchenyuk
      Plekanec (or someone better who is not yet on the team)
      Eller
      Bournival (maybe vice versa with Eller?)

      Even this seems to be a waste in some ways. I haven’t seen enough to say that Eller or Bournival can be top 6 centres, but I don’t really like either as 4th either. Maybe one gets packaged in a deal?

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Ron says:

      No matter how much people think George should only play againist Tor, Ott, Bos etc they maybe correct. George has not played in awhile. We play Boston Thursday night. He will be needed for his 5 mins. He does need some playing time to get into game type situations before Thursday, hence the game tonight.

  12. BJ says:

    Just a quick comment on a number of comments regarding Pacioretty, such as He’s got size and doesn’t use it, weak along the boards, doesn’t drive the net, no grit. If he had all those assets along with his super acceleration, speed and a 30-35 goal scorering ability and maybe 40 goals with a higher level line, he would have gone 1st overall in the draft. For me I think he’s fine just the way he is.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree Bruce. He’s the least if this teams problems but I sure would lice to see him break his man-love relationship with DD.

    • krob1000 says:

      Yup…he also suffered one of the worst injuries in recent hockey memory and was nearly killed or parlazyed on the ice. HE now has a family. Given the fact he is still effective as a goalscorer as a big guy with speed…I believe expecting him to all of the sudden become some power forward is a little bold. As it is the team has a 30 goal guy..who is also big enough to create space for himself with his speed..and oh yeah…he is a great skater…good enough for me given his contract….would he be worth 7 million to a chance…but for what he brings there are fewer better contracts in the league right now.

    • bwoar says:

      That’s a very fair comment. Mind you, I remember his being a divisive pick, there were those who felt he was a third liner in the making and didn’t expect to see him scoring goals.

      I definitely didn’t expect him to be a punk.

      “thoroughbred”

    • 25Stanleycups says:

      Hes just another entitled player on a list of many from this team. Seems Plekanec, and Subban, are two of the few that realize not only do you have to have skill, but you need to WORK HARD every shift.

      That message is not getting through.

  13. HUDSONHAB says:

    I like these lines. Just saying.
    Eller-Plekanec-Gionta
    Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
    Prust-Briere-Bourque
    Moen-Bournival-Parros

    ….Hab4life….

  14. JF says:

    I don’t understand why Leblanc has been sent down. I thought he was one of the few who showed up against the Caps. Nor do I understand why Diaz keeps being a healthy scratch. Unlike many of our D, he can move the puck forward.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Save cap space until he is ready to play

      Habfan17

    • I don’t know about that. You have to be on your skates to make the first outlet pass, not be on your back or getting slammed around by the other team’s cyclers.

      Sadly, I think the Diaz days in Montreal are just about over. Too bad, because I had hoped he’d work out better. Just didn’t materialize.

      Defense wins championships

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree Jane. If anything, after Saturday I’d prefer playing the youngsters who may be hungry to price themselves worthy. Bournival on the 4th line is another troubling decision.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Where would you put Bournival? You can almost say his line is the 3rd. e’s better off playing with those wingers than with Bourque & Prust right now.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  15. Subban in Sochi says:

    Well, at least Louis LeBlanc stayed in Montreal until his birthday. If LL is ever going to stick in the NHL he’ll need the minutes to display “his” skill set. And there’s no point putting him on the 3rd or 4th line. A “point-less” promotion, pun intended.

    It is amazing the ink spilled over trade speculation regarding Rene Bourque. Clearly there’s no hockey value to a trade involving him. The “value” would only be in swapping contracts-and cap space. What would he bring for a draft pick-maybe a 5th rounder…?

    Carey Price is being rode hard…and put away wet. The wear and tear of Olympic work-regardless of how much he plays-will cost the Habs when Price shows up “lame” or over-raced at Playoff time. CP does not have the physical durability of Martin Brodeur, i.e., to “comfortably” play 70 regular season games. And if the Canadiens keep (over) “riding” Price we’ll never know if Price can earn a Cup…by displaying mental & emotional durability.

    It would be nice if all moves made…or NOT made…involved the logic of trying to win 2 or 3 Playoff rounds (or 4!). We’ve waited 21 years; we can wait more. IF there’s purpose in the GM’s transactions-unlike the signings of a pile of old & slow Free Agents. We need a “MoneyPuck” mentality!!

    “Cannonading drive!!”

  16. Luke says:

    <—- I'm not sure if this is rising or setting.

    Did Boucher's Swiss team score any goals yet?

  17. frontenac1 says:

    Alright! Stache, Crankshaft and Prust in. Seeing the Habs can’t score goals, the a good old punch-up is fun. Vas-y Les Boys! Kick Arse!

  18. I am blind? I thought the few shifts that LL got were good to great.

    Send down Bourque, I demand it :lol:

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  19. habsguru says:

    Re Patches: i don’t think when he was drafted that he was expected to be much more than a 15/15/30 point a year guy, and was likely thought of as a talented support player. now he is on clip for a 30 goal season. hard to complain about that.

    i too wish he was more physical, back checked, and gritty, but i just don’t think that is his game. he may have peaked, but if he peaks at 30 goals… low contract, low maintenance…. what’s the problem.

    • shiram says:

      Rare are the first round picks for which the hope is only 15/15.
      We’ve been misled in thinking he might be a power forward, but he just is not.
      He’s a sniper, and a good one at that, but his game is indeed limited.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think Max is a leader on this team, from talent perspective, from long term contract, also a player developed from draft to today. As such, when the team is struggling as bad as it is, you want/like to see your leaders do all they can to get the team going. Perhaps a big hit, going to dirty areas (even if not in your comfort zone), backchecking and helping out your defensemen.

      At present the team appears to have many passengers in this regard, it would be my hope that Max as a leader on the ice and in the room could do more of that, that is all.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Leaders need to lead by example and he does not set a good example. As much as Gionta is not nearly as effective as he once was, he always works his butt off. Gallagher and Subban are leaders, they never quit and will do what ever they need to do to win. Subban sometimes goes too far, but at least he always tries.

        Habfan17

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      When he stepped in with MTL he grinded and was physical and was loved for it, the scoring was the question mark. Now that he puts up 30 a year he doesn’t think he needs to be a complete player.

      He’s more than capable of grinding. Gallagher doesn’t use goal scoring as an excuse to not be a complete player.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  20. habstrinifan says:

    Can we really get Griffey AND Bonds?

  21. Habfan17 says:

    If Columbus would trade Gaborik straight up for Bourque. would you do it, given Gaborik’s injury history?

    Or perhaps, Bourque and Markov for Gaborik and Wisniewski?

    Habfan17

    • CJ says:

      I’d trade Bourque for Gaborik, if only for the salary relief going forward. Sadly, Bourque has driven his value into the ground. Although it seems like a lifetime ago, I personally thought he was one of our best forwards in last year’s playoff series.

      I don’t think there is any chance Bourque can be flipped for a pick or prospect. Further, I don’t want to have to sweeten any deal by including one of our prospects or picks just to have him gone.

      Bourque might be able to net a Colin Greening, or other player who has fallen out of favor within his respective organization.

      • jacquesthemonkey says:

        That’s it exactly. There would need to be a 1-for-1 headache for headache trade.

      • piper says:

        What would a captain like Messier do to a player like Bourque that has all the tools but just doesnt give a shit.

        • CJ says:

          I think right now, in fairness to Bourque, there are many players on this team not exerting maximum effort. The organization has spoken openly about a culture change. Respectfully, I think moving Bourque is the easy thing to try and do. I’d be taking a longer look at some of the other veterans to.

          For all his contributions last year, what has Prust done lately? Markov is either right on, or so off that he couldn’t make an ECHL roster. I see glimpses from Moen, but on other nights have to double check to see if he’s in the lineup.

          The NHL is an unkind business. It’s all about what have you done lately. Sadly, there aren’t many players on this team who have done much. The ultimate indictment against our roster….. Two of our best players over the previous four games just got called up from Hamilton. If that’s not the most telling thing, I’m not sure what is.

    • huge_polar_bear says:

      I would make the trade with the Wiz, I was upset when the Habs did not sign him when we had him and he has about 30 points this season. Good passing and a very nice shot. As for Gaborik, I’m on the fence, he is not the size and scoring that I would like, but definitely an offensive upgrade. His last injury is a broken bone, should not be any lingering problems with that one. Has had some knee issues, but the Montreal medical staff must be experts now in knees. So I say sure pull the trigger.

    • jo_maka says:

      Man, I loved the Wiz when he was around. If only we could have kept him but ….

      “All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time”

  22. bwoar says:

    Eh wot now – I never advocated trading Pacioretty. But I find his game frustrating when he’s obviously capable of more. I’m a bit surprised it’s taboo to point that out.

    I recall Bruins fans said the very same thing of Blake Wheeler, who scores a lot too. I kinda like Wheeler better since he’s more aggressive towards the net regularly. But there are similarities to the two guys.

    On a side note, I love you guys. Especially you, Dipsy. Mind the stanchion on your way by my posts!

    “thoroughbred”

    • Habfan17 says:

      Both Patches and Bourque frustrate the heck out of me! With their size, speed, strength and skill, they should be 40 goals scorer for Patches and 30 for Bourque!

      Habfan17

    • mark-ID says:

      Yea….in my mind, Pacioretty is absolutely open to being traded. Not saying I want him gone, but if we want to get something good in return, we need to give up quality also.

      We would need to get another young player with a lot of talent in return. I also think if we trade Pacioretty….it opens the door for us to potentially package Desharnais with him.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

      • bwoar says:

        I think the Habs have looked too long for a goalscorer to trade this one that comes cheaply. I don’t care for the Max n’ Davey show (and, just tossing it out there, I bet the room isn’t all over it either) but I don’t think you can get a better player by trading the two together.

        “thoroughbred”

      • RUSTIE says:

        What is wrong with Eller? .He is becoming useless

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      I agree, shouldn’t be anything taboo about pointing out how much more he’s capable of giving on the ice. He’s not a guy you’re trying to move but if you could do something like

      Pacioretty Desharnais 1st for Evander Kane, Andrew Ladd

      You take that and run.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      ” I find his game frustrating when he’s obviously capable of more”

      You actually called him a punk.

  23. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Louis just returned to the Bulldogs again according to RDS

    …man, I’m getting sick of My Habs

  24. CHicoHab says:

    From the exhibition games we must have had 50 different guys playing. Only maybe the last game or two of pre season resembled what the line up opening night would look like. Shouldn’t pre season be the experimenting of lines and d pairings for who you know is on the team.

  25. bwoar says:

    This is an awesome comment.

    Also “pre madonna pricks roll”kinda sounds like a z-grade Brooklyn sushi gimmick.

    “thoroughbred”

  26. arcosenate says:

    When are they going to call up Pateryn, you Hamilton guys must see whether he’s ready for a shot? His numbers and size are good this season…

  27. CJ says:

    Leblanc has been returned to Hamilton.

  28. DipsyDoodler says:

    Mr Cowan

    Good pickup on those Bourque to the Avs rumours.

  29. knob says:

    Well, it is mental illness day. Thanks for talking.

  30. DipsyDoodler says:

    Auto-correct fail.

    But yeah hockey was better before Madonna although its hard to blame her.

  31. Eddie says:

    I will try and be concise. To pair Murray with Bealieu is nuts.

    Murray, I could not care less about him so I won’t go there.

    But Beaulieu, him I care about.

    Beaulieu needs a dman on which he can depend, an outlet, someone to find and go to when he lacks options.

    Murray, who is clumsy, slow, and often out of position, relies on exactly the same kind of partner to bail him out of difficult situations.

    There are about 200 NHL dmen in the league. Someone is at the top of that list. Lets just say its definitely not Murray.

    Beaulieu needs to play with a Markov or a Subban or a Gorges just to know that there’s a reliable, consistent partner on the other side.

    That’s how you build confidence in a young dman.
    That’s how you teach a young dman how to keep it simple.
    That’s how you show a young dman how he can use his d-partner effectively, d to d passes and out of the zone.

    • knob says:

      I would play him with Gorges. Gorges can talk to him on the bench and be that support guy on the ice. He also isn’t playing like a clusterf*** like some of the other guys.

    • CJ says:

      I’d love to see him with PK Eddie. The only issue is that it forces him onto his wrong side. I do however believe the upside far outweighs the downside. The pairing with Murray has no upside whatsoever.

      • Phil C says:

        Beaulieu is a leftie, so he would be perfect with PK. Playing him with Murray AND on his wrong side is nuts, as Eddie says.

      • Eddie says:

        The confidence issue is a big deal with Beaulieu, according to his coach.

        He seems to have his confidence shaken quite easily.

        • The_Truth says:

          It’s too early to play him top mins with PK against the teams best players, like Staal, Skinner and Semin. Once he shows he can be effective playing sheltered mins, then you move him up.

          You don’t throw a guy with defensive issues who just came into the league into the fire. Subban and Markov should be the top pairing.

          • CJ says:

            Respectfully, based on his play since the Chicago game, Markov is no longer top pairing material, PP notwithstanding.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            I still agree with The Truth. I don’t think you take a 4 game sample size and decide Markov can no longer play on the Top 2, and if he can’t, then I’m pretty sure Beaulieu can’t either. As Beaulieu gets better, you up his ice time, but giving him top pair minutes now would be crazy. If anything, you cut Markov’s time a little and give some to Gorges, or even a couple extra to Beaulieu, but he can’t play the whole game with PK.

            Go Habs Go!!

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          • The_Truth says:

            Markov has played pretty badly during the losing streak, but so has PK and Emelin has been AHL calibre. Price can’t let in less than 4 goals per game and Eller is -2 every single game and couldn’t score if his life depended on it. During a streak like this everyone looks bad.

            In saying that, Markov is an easy option as your #2 instead of Beaulieu. Putting a rookie Dman in that situation before he has proven he is ready, will destroy him.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Maybe it’s like that song “if I can make it here I can make it anywhere.”

      But speaking of Douglas “Tectonic Plates” Murray, why the hell is he still playing?

    • Ozmodiar says:

      There is a method to their madness. The current formation allows them to:

      - have a PMD on each pairing
      - have Beaulieu’s speed cover for Murray’s slowness
      - limit the TIO of the 3rd pairing

    • nbsjfan says:

      Reliable and Consistent are two words that should not be in the same sentence when talking about ANY of the Habs D right now unless you want to say I wish they were more reliable and consistent. Having said that, there may be merit in putting Emelin on his correct side with Murray and Beaulieu with Gorges. Then out PK and MArkov back together.

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  33. Rad says:

    More from Darche:

    “Several teams in the playoffs now have experienced this kind of sequence, but they all managed to stop the bleeding. Starting tonight, it’s time for this team to slow the momentum of the snowball before it is too late.”

    • scotland says:

      i said that BEFORE the caps game.

      the sabres and oliers are bettter than this team.

      watch down the stretch. both of those clubs will out point the habs (if therrien is left in charge)

      • Habsrule1 says:

        This is not on Therrien. His record since taking over is about 5th in the NHL in that timeframe.

        It’s up to MB to make moves to improve this team.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • knob says:

          The way MT has applied his meritocracy has just finally caught up to him is all. Sure his record is pretty good but that is old news now…look at the way the team is playing as that is the only important thing.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            Not true. The team is not as bad as their current slump, and not as good as their 11 game point streak. I assume you were toting MT for the Jack Adams in December if only the present matters.

            The fact is, the team is an average team with some very good parts. Therrien has to try to put the team that gives him the best chance to win on the ice. If that means benching Diaz & Emelin, so be it. I doubt very much that Mike Babcock would have this Habs team up with the penguins.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • knob says:

            Jack Adams award for MT, no chance. That 11 game point streak was on the back of Carey Price and shot blocking. Even the most naive and optimistic fan should be able to see that.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            There’s always an excuse when they do well, and blame when they don’t. Coach has nothing to do with success and everything to do with failure.
            Love Habs fans sometimes.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • sheds88 says:

          the habs don’t have the horses to blame everything on MT. his in game decisions are mind boggling. this line juggling since the beggining of the season is crazy and would have thought he would have found a combo that works ?
          let’s start throwing dmen up front and forwards on d…. you haven’t tried that one yet mike !!

          • Habsrule1 says:

            The thing is we see MT’s moves. I would venture to guess that half the coaches in the NHL make some decisions that us fans would question. As an example, Yanick Weber was playing forward again last night. Remember the sh*tshow in here when that happened in Montreal?

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • boing007 says:

          I would much prefer an exciting loss over a boring victory.

          Richard R

  34. Propwash says:

    Darche’s take on the Habs current woes.

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/l-effet-boule-de-neige-1.837163?cid=sm:shared-content:twitter:1.837163.1390926518

    I’d like to quote this section ( translated via Google )

    “To return to the current state of CH, the next three weeks before the Olympic break will be decisive for the future of many in the organization. When a team collapses, there are always changes, whether in ice or elsewhere. The hypothesis that some players are dragging their feet because they want to do is fire the coach is rubbish. Even if a coach is not liked by his players, they do not sabotage matches in order that the coach is fired. First, those who evaluate players would notice immediately and this reputation quitters would follow the rest of their careers. I do not say that the performance of the players can not be affected, but think a player deliberately dragging its feet in order to have a new coach is wrong.”
    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

    • CJ says:

      Thank you for sharing. It’s fairly easy to appreciate the witticism of an intelligent man like Darche versus somebody like PJ Stock who has become nothing more then a “shock jockey.”

  35. Sportfan says:

    That;s a much better looking defense right there! Hopefully soon enough we’ll see Pateryn and Tinordi.

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  36. Is Carey Price mentally tough enough? Sportsnet.ca

    I can’t believe I clicked the link. Nothing was more stressful then the season after Halak was traded,and Carey made them all choke on it. :lol:

    This slump is a nothing compared to that. Lord and they got the NHL rights? Center Ice Baby CI!

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    • Sportfan says:

      Is Sportsnet slowly becoming a Fox type sports channel they keep starting a lot of crap lately, then again so is TSN -__-

      Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!
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      • I hammered Dreger two weeks ago, the man is on Mtl radio almost everyday saying one thing then he goes on TV and says the opposite to please his Ontario listeners. It’s disgusting.

        Pierre McGuire, Bob Mackenzie are on the radio off and on all day, I hear them on NHL Network Radio, and TSN690, and they stick to their views all day long. People don;t like Pierre (everyone) but I like listening to him because he brings us the player’s story.

        Burly posted a link last week, and I was stunned. He sounded like a real stinker back in the 90′s. :lol:

        Nice comparison to FOX news, that’s exactly what they are!

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    • knob says:

      Carey Price is the last guy that I would worry about on this team being mentally tough. With that said I do think that he should get the night off tonight.

    • 25Stanleycups says:

      Do you feel because in your mind because he had a good season after the trade it constitutes hes a mentally strong individual?

      What about since then. What about Ottawa just 9 months ago?

      Im pretty sure its a good question to be asking about a guy that has been given every reason to succeed in the NHL, thats paid as a top 3 goalie, heading to the Olympics, and has less then 10 post season victories in 30 attempts. Not to mention his third personal coach in Waite.

      Name me another starting goalie, compensated as much as he is, that has a lesser win percentage in the post season.

      And none of this his defense sucks, the coaching is suspect, and the forwards cant score. The first half of the season when Carey’s numbers were better, the team was leading in block shots.

      Defense, team defense wasn’t a problem. Culture is the problem, entitlement, and I think Price is as entitled as you can get in this league. He’s never had to faced any scrutiny from within, sheltered. Compared to a Subban. LOL

      Really what has he proven as an NHL goalie. Its not enough to have all the skills to succeed. You still have to have results.

  37. knob says:

    I’m glad this trade didn’t happen. I haven’t lost faith in Bourque and at a 3.33 mil cap hit his contract is good on a go forward basis.

    Bourque needs to be a physical player everyshift, work hard and be strong on the defensive side of the puck. If he can do this then his contract has merit. Offensive production then becomes gravy. I would keep him with Eller but switch Prust with Bournival…could be a decent offensive line.

  38. habstrinifan says:

    re post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    After listening to Chris Nilan, I am placing the DUNCE CAP on my head and going to the corner. I retract my kneejerk criticism. If AVS offered just Parenteau for Bourque then MB was right in turning deal down. In Nilan’s words, “going big” is too overriding a requirement now to deviate for an average scorer.

    As Nilan put it, he would indeed score soome more goals than Bourque but we wouldnt be any further ahead PERIOD.

  39. scotland says:

    mb was gonna sign jagr but thought it better to wait two more years.. by that time he will have reached brierre status. easy to sign because the other 29 teams are not interested. might take jagr more than two before he qualifies for the habs though.

  40. arcosenate says:

    An “insider” tells me Bergevin wrapped Bourque up in a nice warm blanket and left him in a basket on Patrick Roy’s doorstep. Roy in turn called a stork which flew Bourque back to Montreal overnight.

    We’re right back where we started, Bergevin will need to be more clever than that.

    • scotland says:

      nhl gms want to win. so not a one of them will be interested in what is ailing the canadiens. dead wood that is untradable.

      gionta
      brierre
      bourque
      murray
      diaz
      gorges
      dd (over 10 million lefyt on contract) nobody will pay that and give habs a player/draft pick

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        Gorges would attract attention for sure. He’s misused on the Habs (not a top 4 guy), but for a team looking to make a playoff run that needs to shore up on defense, he’s a reliable 5-6 heart and soul guy who blocks a ton of shots.

        Gionta would probably still garner some attention based on his experience and, again, on the role that a team would want him to play. Good on the PK, leadership and can pop in the odd one on the third line.

  41. punkster says:

    These ongoing and bizarre complaints about Max, something which seemed to creep into the HIO conversations around the beginning of the recent slump, are quite simply st00pid.

    Tied for 18th on league scoring after playing 10 fewer games than all but 2 of the guys ahead of him…and only 5 are left wingers. Total of 42 hits so far and only 7 of the leading goal scorers have more hits than that…and only 2 are left wingers.

    Go look at the list of league leading goal scorers and hit leaders ahead of him and ask yourself how the hell you could dump Max and pick up one of those guys…even better one of those 5 left wingers, really only the 2 who have more hits, because that’s your target player to replace Max’s production.

    Stats, even the most basic ones, can be your friend.

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

    • knob says:

      Yeah, I don’t get it. I think that he is 25 years old and is a proven goal scorer. He may not be physical but he still has a good career ahead of himself. He is also locked into a pretty good conract for the Habs.

    • bwoar says:

      I’ve been complaining about him for longer than the recent slump. I don’t care a lick about your hit stats, punkster, they aren’t relevant. Nor do I think comparing him to other LW invalidates the criticism that he only plays for his own goalscoring and rarely exerts any back pressure. Combine that with his inability to play productively with any C other than Desharnais (rendering *him* untradeable) and you will continue to read st00pid comments. Basic stuff here too.

      “thoroughbred”

      • punkster says:

        Well, nice to see you come back with facts…I mean your facts are so, well, factual that I can hardly argue.

        Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
        but…
        ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

        • HabinBurlington says:

          So what is a fact then Dave? Is a fact only when statistical analysis is presented? Perhaps only MIT grads understand hockey then.

          I like Max, however, there seems to be less aggressiveness in his game this season. I don’t think he backchecks as hard as he could or should. Damn problem is Corsi, Fenwick and their Cousin Fecal Matter, don’t actually have a stat that tracks how hard a player works on the ice.

          I don’t want Max traded, I want him to remain on the team, but sometimes one gets the appearance that he and DD get to skate to the beat of their own drum and not always the same beat as the rest of the team.

          His production is there, I just would like to see even more from him.

          Not a hater, just want to see him keep getting better.

          • punkster says:

            Jeebus man, I quoted goals and hits, not advanced stats.

            Chill Ger…I would come back at you with the very same numbers to counter your “I’d like to see even more from him”.

            More as in what? More goals? He has never been an overly aggressive winger in my recollection. Maybe someone could provide us with how more aggression equate to more goals with Max?

            Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
            but…
            ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I’m chillin’ fine. Specifically yes, aggressive backchecking I want to see more of. Going into corners more for puck retrieval, perhaps finishing checks along the way, yes i would like to see more of.

            Why is it so bad to ask our better skilled players to play harder?

          • Habsrule1 says:

            Wow are we seriously complaining about our 30 goal scorer who hasn’t even peeked yet?
            No, his game is not perfect, but I’m perfectly fine with having him on our team.
            Please don’t trade Max and regret it for years to come.

            Go Habs Go!!

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          • HabinBurlington says:

            @habsrule, sorry, didn’t mean to say anything slightly negative on our boy Max. I mean I did say I don’t want him traded, that I want him to remain on team, just I wished we could see a bit more from him.

            I will try and refrain from such distasteful language towards him in the future.

        • bwoar says:

          The fact that he doesn’t backcheck not impressing you punkster? That’s a bit less subjective than, uh, “hits”. I assume you watch the games while practicing that snark. Maybe that’s how you missed his Ice Capades routine. Your snark needs work too, may I suggest a double dose of EOTP since they’re hoarding all the good video on it.

          I said earlier, for what he does, his pay is just fine. But he’d have to come back to the zone and *check* someone once in a while, or, maybe acquire the puck with his own sweat once in a blue moon, for me to want to pay him 5M or more.

          “thoroughbred”

          • punkster says:

            My snark has been finely tuned from years of reading some of the silliness that surfaces on all hockey blogs at times…hell, any blogs for that matter.

            Trade our top goal scorer because some perceive that he doesn’t back check enough? No different than the calls (some recent in fact) for trading our best checker (Pleks) because he doesn’t score enough. Or trading our best D because he takes too many risks.

            Come on B, you know all players can’t be all things. Max scores, that’s what he gets paid to do. Pleks checks, PK takes risks…very few players around the league do everything well but most contribute something of value, some more than others.

            Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
            but…
            ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

          • Stimpy007 says:

            He is our best goal scorer!!! and he makes 4.5 mil. Why on gods green earth would we trade him??? Thats as good as it gets. He hasnt even peaked yet. He has way more to come. It would be idiotic to trade him.

          • boing007 says:

            I’ve seen Max backcheck. He even does some PK work on occasion.

            Richard R

      • scotland says:

        what other centers are you referring to.

        tell me a winger on the canadioens that is playing well with pleks, brierre or any center mt throws out there.

        i’m sure pax would play well with crosby, beregerin, teows, tavaras, bozak, zetterberg, hall, giroux, malkin, richards, etc etc etc ….. scoring with dd as your center is a compliment. he is a number 3 or 4 center on most other clubs. he is a no 1 center in a the ahl.

        but scoring while playing pleks, brierre, or elar as your center……nobody has ever managed do that that…………. well that would be more difficult ….duh

        • bwoar says:

          Gallagher would have a field day playing with Plekanec, for one. But Maxid Pacharnais absolutely need him to keep their line functional.

          Don’t you think it’s odd that Max Pac, no matter who he’s tried with, hasn’t clicked at all? If you think the problem is Plekanec, ask Jaromir Jagr. Heck, ask Brian Gionta!

          “thoroughbred”

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      As I’ve been saying over and over, only three players have a significantly higher goals per game (0.5) rate: Steen, Stamkos and Ovie.

      But it’s because he’s getting sheltered minutes supposedly.

      One frequent poster called Max a punk and said he could kind of see why Chara rammed him into the stanchion.

    • Strummer says:

      This punk rock warlord agrees with the Punkster

      ______________________________________________________
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    • scotland says:

      good post.

      max delivers.

    • The_Truth says:

      Max is the only legit top line forward on the team, although Pleks is a very good 2nd line center. The guy is a goal scorer and a game breaker and the Habs don’t have anyone close to that.

      Top that off with a very reasonable contract and wanting to trade this guy seems borderline crazy. With no Max, this team will have the worst offence in the league and will have to win every game 1-0.

      • bwoar says:

        Eh, I don’t to trade the guy, personally. I know some do. Even if he becomes Ryder+ that’s still value for 4.5M.

        BUT, I think the word “gamebreaker” is thrown around a bit too much.

        “thoroughbred”

    • adadi says:

      Yes he is that power forward we’ve all been waiting for. He puts fear in opposing teams. He has 30 points (21goals) but somehow still manages to be a -4. Great numbers indeed. Sorry but in a year or 2 he will at best be no better than a Ryder and at worst become the new Rene Bourque.

      Man, too many ostriches on this sight.

  42. bwoar says:

    Since there’s trade rumours out there between MTL & COL, I had a bit of fun coming up with this trade suggestion:

    To COL: Bourque-Markov
    To MTL: Duncan Siemens-Parenteau-Bordeleau

    Crazy?

    “thoroughbred”

  43. Rad says:

    I would hope that any trade of Bourque, Gionta, Diaz, Briere, etc., nets the Habs draft picks in return, rather than just retreads from other teams. Unless, of course, a top tier player or prospect becomes available (unlikely).

  44. Puckdoc says:

    Parenteau should have been signed INSTEAD of Briere not in addition to him, that’s roster softness suicide. Bourque is soft but at least he doesn’t get knocked off the puck easily.

  45. JohnBellyful says:

    Here’s how the deal’s going down (or not):

    http://johnbellyful.weebly.com/

    • HabinBurlington says:

      That’s got to be true, because I read it on a website, only Insiders have their own sites.

      Thanks Insider

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Ya got that right, Burl’. We Insiders gotta establish our Web creds somehow. That place ya just visited, it’s more than a website, it’s a webinsight. Maybe they should change the name of this gathering hole.
        Hockey Insight? Out!

  46. SteverenO says:

    Parros?

    The way this team is going , it does not make any sense to insert someone in the lineup who is likely to play 5 minutes at most.

    There are better options:

    Dumont,
    Holland,
    Blunden
    Timo ( just through that in to see if anyone’s paying attention)

    heck, Id prefer we played a defenseman up front. Diaz, or Bouillon (but preferably Emelin) playing on the wing on the 4th line would be a significant upgrade over Parros..

    Can you imagine the hits that Emelin could deliver to the opposing Defensemen if he were playing forward.

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • Walmyr says:

      Dumont, Holland yes…

      Blunden no…

      Emelin is playing bad as D right now…imagine him as a F!…probably would be totally lost, hitting Canadiens players and the zebras…

      PS.: I have serious doubt if Timo would be a good fit in Canadiens (or any) dressing room…

    • scotland says:

      those are better options stevereno……problem is therrien uses new guys by giving them thimble full of ice time, on fourth line, never on specialty teams. gives them really no chance to improve or succeed. or ever feel good about their nhl experience for that matter. want proof?

      9 players from bulldogs plus parros have played a combined 42 games this season………those 9 players have combined for ….wait for it…..0 goals 0 assists in 42 games!

      that does not incluse beuleau …who has 1 assist.

      name another coach that could pull that off

    • HabinBurlington says:

      At the present time Parros is under contract and a member of the Team. There are games where he will be counted on to standup for other members of the team. While I am sure he knows that, you still want him to want to stand up for teammates. In order for that to occur he needs to be a part of the team.

      He needs a carrot thrown his way as well. Tonights game is/could be one of those.

      I am not saying some of the players you mention aren’t better options from a skill compete level, but as far as being a team, and wanting Parros to feel like a part of that, he needs some games.

      • scotland says:

        thats to deep for mt. all he knows is gionta and plaks start every game and play pp, pk. dd line stays in tact. carey price plays every game….well starts every game.

        everything ellse is guess work for mt.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Criticizes MT’s line combos, then proposes Emelin on the wing. :lol:

      /gotta luv HiO

  47. Walmyr says:

    Hello boys…and girls…

    “Do you think Colorado’s P.A. Parenteau would be a good fit with the Canadiens?”

    Why they keep asking the wrong question (IMO, of course)???…

    I would ask: “P.A. Parenteau/Rene Bourque is a good trade for the Canadiens?”…

    My answer: “No”

    CHeers

  48. Forum Dog says:

    My take on the Parenteau rumour is that it could work if they are able to get rid of a comparable contract, and are willing (and able) to bounce another RW between now and the deadline. There is no point getting Parenteau and having him be another offensive player who can’t find his groove on the 4th line. He could however be a nice compliment on the top nine since he is basically a bigger, stronger and slightly more competitive hybrid of Desharnais and Briere. He is not a great skater though, and would not have the luxury of playing with Tavares or Duschene.

    If you assume that they moved one contract out in the trade, and either deal another one or let one expire, then his $4M over the next 3 might not be a major a cap issue. The other potential drag would be how (or if) it affects the development of their younger players, who are already finding NHL opportunities hard to come by.

    Tough one. I think they could use the shakeup, and even a sideways move might not hurt as long as it doesn’t cost them a core piece or pick, but there is some risk in Parenteau. I don’t think he is a strong 200 foot player, and he lacks some size, which are the things the Habs need most…..

  49. CH Marshall says:

    I don’t know Bourque’s deal, but something suggests to me that unless he’s playing for the CGY or EDM, he’d rather not play at all. Sounds like Sakic and Roy saw an opportunity to try and fleece MB.

    • Mattyleg says:

      How do you explain him playing the same way in Calgary?
      His numbers may not be as good now, but his inconsistency is equivalent.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • CH Marshall says:

        Never really followed him when he was in CGY, but I’m sure he was pretty inconsistent. Just watching some of the last few games, and certain camera angles had me surprised at how he wouldn’t backtrack on plays or just float out there.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Hey, I’ve seen him play live 7 times, and the camera don’t lie.
          In fact, he looks worse in real life than on TV.

          I’d rather see him up his play than be traded, because I don’t believe that we can get something in return that would be as good as Rene Bourque is when he is playing well.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

  50. HabinBurlington says:

    Good News, I have found a way to get in to the Outsiders Club, this should put me at a level far superior to those Insiders and therefore will be able to get the real poop on all stories here to HI/O completely and factually.

    http://www.outsiderclub.com/

  51. Stimpy007 says:

    Grab O’brien from Calgary for Boullion

  52. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Those @#%!^ tools on Sportsnet bashing Carey Price! Did they even watch the past few games where Price has been left out to dry 200 times?

    The players crap the bed & Carey is the one to suffers most!

    Guts-Glory-Ram

  53. J.J. of Turku says:

    I’d go still with Bourque for Jesse Joensuu (EDM).

    Twitter: @jjturku (there is nothing to see)

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  54. careyprice31 says:

    I was happy to get rid if borque. get rid of him ASAP for the habs sake he needs to go

  55. Mattyleg says:

    Remember when all the pundits said that Kadri was on his way out?

    Don’t trust the media. They’ll say anything as long as it generates clicks.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  56. joewindsor habfan says:

    does it really matter? PA would have been inserted in the line up as a centre anyways!

  57. Un Canadien errant says:

    Another example of how hard it is to run the Canadiens. How many times do you think GM’s enter this dance, talk around the edges, bat ideas around, make some proposals that their counterpart flatly reject as non-starters, and then wish each other a good day and call someone else. This should hardly be news.

    I understand when a blockbuster like the Vincent Lecavalier trade to Montréal is far down the line, and eventually gets nixed by Tampa ownership and/or Gary Bettman, that’s news, but these preliminary discussions probably shouldn’t get all this attention.

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    • shiram says:

      But it sells and there will be a power struggle between TNS/RDS and TVA.
      Their weapons are those kind of rumors, they bring in the hits.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Yeah, I agree, there are practical considerations like hits and ratings that ensure any rumour will be trumpeted. I just think it shouldn’t be so. But that’s just me, I live with my head in the clouds.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      But how do you think the info gets out in the first place?

      In a case like this it isn’t in either team’s interest to leak this.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        From what we can deduce, the Montréal front office is usually airtight, contract negotiations are kept under wraps, and we never heard about the Erik Cole deal ahead of time.

        The interesting thing is that the Colorado side has a lot of staff on the coaching and front-office that are from Québec, so that’s just as likely a source for the leak for guys like François Gagnon.

        • Stimpy007 says:

          It certainly has us talking!

          Love it! Tell more!

        • Strummer says:

          Bruce Garrioch reported the Habs were shopping Cole a couple of days before the trade.
          So if a player is being offered to the market chances are word can get out, just not neccessarily the details of to and for whom.

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      • New says:

        Remember when the Habs were coach hunting and every time a certain guy was called, spoken with, or inquired about the media knew before the Habs GM could exit his office? Same thing. Two phones needed for any call.

    • adadi says:

      By all accounts this was much more than prelilminary discussions. The Avs did not want to make the deal straight up for Bourque because his body of works pails in comparison to that of Parenteau regardless of his current status. This puts an exclamation point on the fact that Bourque is not going anywhere unless he is part of a mega trade. Thanks for the great move goat.

    • CJ says:

      Imagine the Gretzky deal? I recently read Phil Esposito’s book in which he said Gretzky was offered all around the league. The Rangers had finished a deal, that was squashed by ownership. RDS and TVA fail this franchise when they do things like they did yesterday. I can’t imagine a pending UFA saying, wow, I need to play there, in that fishbowl. As I mentioned yesterday, Sportsnet and TSN salivate for the chance to kick dirt on this franchise. I read blogs yesterday that chastised Bergevin for turning down the deal. I really hate the implications that these reports have on the storied franchise.

      I once heard a good quip from a reporter in Montreal. The jest was he said the best thing that could happen each year was the team would go 0-82 and win the Stanley Cup. And yes, I appreciate and understand that he was being ironical.

  58. Avs are giving PA the night off. Roy says it’s because of the busy sched, just like they did with Tanguay. Maybe still serious negotiating?

    http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_25006575/p-parenteau-given-night-off-by-patrick-roy

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  59. CJ says:

    Good afternoon. As I noted yesterday, I would not trade for Parenteau. This is not the type of player this organization needs if they wish to be successful going forward. If we are looking exclusively at the Av’s professional lineup, I’d rather Jamie McGinn, who is bigger, stronger, younger and plays a north south game.

    This is exactly the type of player Bourque should be. Sadly, I think the latest concussion put a major dent into Rene’s mental outlook. He almost appears afraid to engage physically. I see something similar in Max. In Max’s case, I feel it has less to do with Chara’s hit and more to do with the suspensions. The NHL, and their inconsistencies, have him screwed right up. I feel as though he now pulls up because he doesn’t know what he can or can’t do. He is a big guy and when he wants to hit, he can hurt people. I remember him crushing Ryan McDonough last year in the end boards. Many people here blame a Max exclusively. I, at the very least, place a large percentage of the blame on the NHL, if not more.

  60. habs001 says:

    No matter how posters try to frame the players or line combinations this roster of forwards will have problems scoring 5 on 5 most nights..if the pp does not work 1 goal per game performances will be common…

  61. JUST ME says:

    RDS and TVA have as much credibility as the Wheater channel or/and the horoscope girl.

    This is one big difference between the biggest markets like MTL and TOR from most of the markets that scare the players away. Rumors being borderline lies.

    Of course we will never know the real thruth wich plays a big part in the media keeping on telling what they want.
    Yesterday the Parenteau-Bourque story.
    Last week someone close to the team, could be the janitor, tells Gagnon that there are people unsatisfied with Therrien. Who ? When ? We will never knoe.
    Two weeks ago a L.A. Kings scout is seen in the press box as if it was not his job to be there so TSN says that a big deal is in the works !!!

    Altough i find that some comments are close to being senile on HIO they still have as much credibility as the ones coming from so called pros from the medias.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Agreed about horoscopes but I find that the wheater channel’s predictions about grain futures are usually right on the mark.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I would disagree that RDS and TVA are equally disreputable. RDS actually does a solid job and its reporters are usually reliable. TVA however, including the abysmal Louis Jean, regularly tries to beat other outlets to a scoop, and gets it completely wrong.

  62. Propwash says:

    adater ‏@adater 17h
    “@Sidhu6_: @adater Please tell me that Parenteau/Bourque rumour isn’t true. Bourque is an awful player.”/ not true

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  63. Strummer says:

    How about a first-rounder for Alex Tanguay?

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  64. habsguru says:

    is Bourque wrote off? has he been given the right opportunity to succeed? would he snap out of it if he was given the DD treatment? I’m not suggesting otherwise, but you don’t accidentally score 27 back to back. would hate if he was to go to a better fit of a team and net 25-30.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      I think he is. This has been the story with him his whole career. Lots of ability, but just disappears for long stretches of games.

      He had a chance on the top line for several games. Playing on the third with Eller for several as well, which isn’t putting a guy in the doghouse at all.

      He just has no heart.

    • shiram says:

      Playing on his correct wing, and with the sheltered minutes the DD line gets could maybe help.
      It would put Gally back with Eller…

  65. frankcasting says:

    We shoulda signed PA when we had the chance. I would have supported this deal for sure.

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  66. habsguru says:

    i think it was MacKenzie that said yesterday that there is no way MT would be sh*# canned until MB fired a perverbial shot accross the bow. leave, stay, who cares. just be better. could this “didn’t happen trade” be the shot?

  67. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I hope to God RDS has this right…

  68. Propwash says:

    Colorado reporters are denying that this ever took place.

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  69. habsguru says:

    was this really in the works, or an attempt to make it look like MB was active?

  70. Habcouver says:

    Indifferent to this trade having materialized

    Waiting patiently for #25

  71. Sportfan says:

    So what network is telling the truth? I’d look towards Bell as the truth teller seeing as the owner of TVA sports like to start a lot of crap.

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  72. JF says:

    According to RDS, the Avalanche wanted Sven Andrighetto as part of the Bourque trade. Their Assistant Coach, André Tourigny, coached Andrighetto in Junior.

    • Bripro says:

      Although smallish (5’10″), he’s played very well at the Junior level.
      And if MB truly believes in building through the draft, then I don’t blame him for pulling the plug.
      Finally, a GM who isn’t willing to gamble away the store.
      Besides, who knows how Parenteau will play after coming back.
      I’m sure he wasn’t a healthy scratch for no reason last night.

    • bwoar says:

      Funny, I’ve got Tourigny penciled in as the next coach of the Habs. So he’ll get all up in the ghetto after all!

      “thoroughbred”

  73. habfan01 says:

    shoot- was hoping to be first

  74. krob1000 says:

    bet it is not falling through but instead expanding…these two teams have a lot of players that fit each others needs.


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