Qualifying offers heat up contract talks

RDS reports that the Canadiens have made qualifying offers to 10 restricted free agents, most notably goalie Carey Price and forwards Maxim Lapierre, Tom Pyatt and Sergei Kostitsyn.

Benoit Pouliot, the team’s other RFA, has not yet received an offer. The Canadiens have until next Monday to do so, if that’s in fact what they choose to do.

Pierre Gauthier on Pouliot, quoted by Marc-Antoine Godin on Twitter: “The evaluation is not finished. A qualifying
offer should come before Monday.”

Others to receive offers: farmhands Mathieu Carle, David Desharnais, Cédrick Desjardins, Brock
Trotter, Ryan Russell and James Wyman.

A few notes from our friends at CKAC:

• Price: earned $850,000 last season, the final year of his entry-level contract.
• Lapierre: earned $800,000 and had a good playoffs after a lacklustre season.
• Pyatt: earned $685,000, second-low on the team to SK74.
• Kostitsyn: earned $585,000, spent quality time with Hamilton or in Jacques Martin’s doghouse.

The Canadiens have four UFAs who next Thursday could be shopping their services anywhere they wish: Glen Metropolit, Dominic Moore, Marc-André Bergeron and Paul Mara.


  1. GrimJim says:

    TSN is reporting that HAbs gave CArle a qualifying offer too

  2. Favorite Son says:

    Pouliot’s not a hometown boy.

  3. Fansincebirth says:

    Sorry, brain cramp…

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  4. BeachHabFan says:

    they have to make an offer to retain his rights, don’t they? maybe someoe could clarify the process. i can’t see him staying in the organization but if they’re going to trade him they need to be able to (like with higgins last year)

  5. Puck Bard says:

    Trade: it’s procedural.

  6. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    If they’ve made the offers to the others, you can’t really say that management is showing priority to the hometown boys. It’s more likely that the hometown boys are willing to accept the offer.

  7. crabvader says:

    Lol, right on.

  8. crabvader says:

    I just have to accept my inferiority to clearly superior intellects. :(

  9. fuhgawz says:

    assumption about the contract — and fact about him earning it.

  10. devils_fury2 says:

    Although I like Sergei I am definately suprised with the amount of times he was in the dog house that Gauthier gave him a qualifying offer….I’m not suprised about Pouliot, even though he for the most part was on a line with Gionta and Gomez, other then a few games here and there he didn’t do anything (especially not in the playoffs), Gionta was more of a force in front of the net then Pouliot was…..IMO until Price proves some consistancy I wouldn’t give him more then a 2 year deal nor would I give the guy more then 2 mil a season

  11. zooziff says:

    Did the Habs place a qualifying offer to Sergei Kostitsyn because he’s in the team’s long term plans or because they plan on trading him soon? What’s the time period for these offers? Anyone?

  12. SmartDog says:

    Relax people.

    They extend an offer to SK to keep his rights.  It might be for a bag of beans, but they have to do it.  And he’s worth 600k as a prospect.

    As for Pouliot, I think he’s probably already close to a deal.  That’s the most likely explanation.

    I hate to say it but Darche, Pouliot… these home town boys are probably priorities.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  13. crabvader says:

    Is that assumption or fact?

  14. fuhgawz says:

    Price will get 6mil for 3 year term 2mil a year. .  even then he hasn’t really earned that and im a price fan.

  15. SmartDog says:


    The HIO policy states that any small error or exageration nulifies an otherwise sound and well-supported point or argument. The less you say, the less you can have used against you.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  16. GrimJim says:

    Yes he has experience and was injured last year but even prior to the injury he moved at a snail’s pace. Gill was heroic during the playoffs but he’s slow, Hamrlik has lost a step and spacek is only average speed. All through the regular season we were lamenting the lack of speed in the defense. Mara as a seventh would only exacerbate that, and PK can only do so much

  17. crabvader says:

    Reeeelaaaax about Pouliot. PG still has 4 days to sign him.

  18. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    We currently have 7 defensemen under contract for next season. If someone gets moved, I’d rather see the 7th spot opened up for young guys from Hamilton to be tested out.

  19. fuhgawz says:

    no way he was as bad as MAB

  20. crabvader says:

    His play before his injury was terrible.

  21. fuhgawz says:

    Benny will be given an offer i have no doubt about that — Sk like many of you suprises me what is PG up to??

    I wouldn’t mind having Moore back as well i grew to appreciate him during the playoffs wouldn’t mind seeing him for a couple more years.

  22. Qais says:

    yes only if we trade him for Latendresse after?


  23. Qais says:

    yes only if we trade him for Latendresse after?


  24. crabvader says:

    If he’s as honest as Plekanec, he will be signed. Everytime this kid was on TV he would talk about how he loved it in Montreal.


  25. Les-Habitants says:

    I am a little surprised by them not offering Pouliot a qualifying offer at the same time as the other players, if for nothing else but to ensure that we retain his rights.  Does anyone know of any reason at all why we wouldn’t?

  26. SmartDog says:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  27. B says:


    from 2/1/09 to 2/1/11, has a list of six (6) teams in both the Eastern and Western Conference that he will accept a trade to; after 2/1/11, does not hold a NTC

  28. Propwash says:

    Why not? Seems to be an experienced d-man. He was hurt throughout most of the season.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  29. natethegreat says:

    i almost crapped my pants when i read that!

  30. SmartDog says:

    I was thinking that too.

    It either means they don’t want him (unlikely) or he’s indicated that he wants to sign here and the deal is almost done.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  31. kempie says:

    Oh yeah, except for that. 

    Actually, I laughed out loud when I read your response. I do stand corrected. Actually, I was moving and had no TV/internet/radio. I remember thinking “meh, Gainey plays it so safe, I won’t miss anything”. Really makes ya think though that, with Gainey’s risk/reward equations he seems to use, how bad did the situation have to be a year ago for him to do what he did?

  32. Propwash says:

    Would you guys give Mara one more season?


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  33. twocents says:

    I suspect the lack of qualifying offer for Pouliot may indicate they will announce a deal outside of the qualifying process.

  34. crabvader says:

    Oh crap… I forgot we were on HI/O where anything you say must be taken literally!

    27 goals… DAMN! That’s not even CLOSE to 30, am I right?

    Actually, what are YOU rounding, bud? 27 rounded is 30.

    I guess we can’t all be as clever as you. When was the last time Ribs had a season under 50 pts?

    Trading him for Ninimaa was a steal for us.

  35. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Report: MAB 5 years, 10 mill., no trade clause, and the captain.

  36. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Lats did get his francophone spot. He was lazy and a soft bug man.. so soft.. useless. Glad we gor rid of that baggage.

  37. HabFanSince72 says:

    Marleau had a very good series against Chicago, but was his usual self-effacing self in the Sharks’ first two series.

    Those 4 games (all defeats) where he played well probably lost him that choker tag and earned him the big contract.


  38. Mr_MacDougall says:

    A 30 goal scorer? so I guess Cammy is a 50 goal man by your rounding. Ribs was great to get rid of.. his best was 27.. never be a “great” number 2 centre

  39. crabvader says:

    J’me gratte la tete en soupirant et je fais des wrap-around.

    Donnez-moi de l’argent.

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ve known Mcdonald’s employees with better work ethics than Guimauve. He was never going to score even 20 in MTL and thought his name entitled him to a roster position each season.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  41. SmartDog says:

    Hate to say it but it’s true.  They need a culture of professionalism.   On the other hand, don’t trade away any more Ribieros for nothing.  

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  42. crabvader says:

    “Ninimaa was good for us anyways lol”

    Lol indeed!

  43. HabFanSince72 says:

    Were you in some Himalayan retreat last July 1?


  44. crabvader says:

    The NTC in Hamr’s case is up in 2/1/11.


  45. TripleX says:

    I have always liked Sergei and think a coach willing to work with him and adapt a little will get a pretty versatile player in return.  I do think he needs a new start somewhere else to prove what he can do.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  46. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    You have most of the details right, but Hamr’s NTC doesn’t expire until Feb 1, 2011. That’s why I think we will have serious trouble moving him before the deadline. It’s not just about finding a team with cap space, it’s about finding a team with cap space where Hamr wants to go.

  47. Qais says:

    Pouliot will be re-signed, no matter what. Ninimaa was good for us anyways lol


  48. crabvader says:

    “Daaaaaaaaaaale, it’s Stan! We’re partying in Chi-town!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! Wish you were here, bud! Oh and you should be getting your ring via FedEx in a day or two! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!”

  49. HabFanSince72 says:

    Which Sergei are your referring to? What team does he play for?

  50. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    If he was an RFA, I would give him a qualifying offer. The downside of presenting the offer is dwarfed by the downside of letting him go to UFA. That being said, I’m glad that the resigning of Niinimaa is not a decision facing Gauthier this year

  51. kempie says:

    Dom Moore is joining Hamr as one of the elephants in the room. I would reeeeeeally like to get Moore signed. Excellent bottom 6 guy. Can somebody confirm this about Hamrlik: He has a limited NTC that includes a list of 6 teams. That NTC expires July 1, 2010. Confirm? Deny? I’d love to imagine that PG has a grand evil-genius scheme in play here, considering the QO to Sergei & not Pouliot, but I’m afraid that it’s just more slow, plodding, safe Gainey type stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I love Gainey but watching these guys assemble a team is like watching paint dry sometimes. PG is doing just fine so far with Halak/Plex but my fear is that Hamrlik & his cap hit will show up at training camp, Moore will walk, AK won’t put a point on the board until January when he’ll start filling the net like Ovechkin before getting injured just before the trade deadline. And he’ll sign Darryl Sydor & Dean McAmmond.

  52. andrewberkshire says:

    He got a ring though.

  53. SmartDog says:


    Double ouch!

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  54. crabvader says:

    So did Janne Ninimaa.

    Would you re-sign him?

  55. 24 Cups says:

    A mistake that cost him the Cup. 

  56. Qais says:

    Im pretty sure Pouliot is involved in these offers. How could he not be. He cost us a 30 naturel scorer!


  57. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    And I would rather keep Moore than Sergei, despite his age.
    The Hockey God will remain for 6 more years…

  58. andrewberkshire says:

    They always extend qualifying offers, unless they’re Dale Tallon.

  59. crabvader says:

    They don’t grow olives in Belarus.

  60. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Sergei offer is likely to make sure we can trade him or get compensated if he signs elsewhere, as stated by many below…

    I personally would like to see him in a package deal with Hamrlik for Lupul and Deschamps. Someone else brought that up before and I think its a good move for size up front and a salary dump that Anaheim actually needs. Throw in a lower pick if they get greedy.




    The Hockey God will remain for 6 more years…

  61. B says:

    If you mean Andrei Kostitsyn, he is already signed for next season (at $3.25M).

  62. avatar_58 says:

    Sergei you know what? This is an olive branch. TAKE IT and show you are worth something as a player.

  63. B says:

    Qualifying offers are not final, there is still room for negotiations. If they fail to make a qualifying offer to an RFA by a certain date (Jul 1st ?) then the RFA becomes a UFA and walks away for nothing.

  64. crabvader says:

    Maybe they haven’t gotten around to it yet, lol.

  65. andrewberkshire says:

    Anyone know why Pouliot wasn’t qualified?

  66. Fansincebirth says:

    Does this mean that AK is on the outside looking in?

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  67. habsfansince91 says:

    i’ll be one of the few that agree’s with you. They have so much upside that it’ll be stupid to trade them. They have they skill and their missing is the consistency.

  68. GuyDoon says:

    Guys, I’m not up on the CBA, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they were “qualified” for two reasons: 1 – The Habs will give them the 5% – 10% raise for RFAs (depending on how much they made last year) because they feel that’s all they want to give to these players. Now the players can accept or decline. Expect Sergei to decline. 2 – If they don’t qualify them, they become UFAs. Like him or not, SKostitsyn is a hockey asset.

  69. crabvader says:

    But at some point this organization has to stop running a daycare and have players who are 100% commited like Josh Gorges, Mike Cammalleri, Brian Gionta, etc.

    We’ve been doing this dance for far too long and unless Sergei has been busting his ass off during the off-season to prove something to PG, I see this offer as crazy unless PG is trying to trade him for better value.

  70. rgallagher says:

    I’m sure many will disagree but I see more long term upside with Sergei than Andrei.  Sergei showed me last year that he can bounce back from the dog house (albeit just a little bounce) and be an effective penalty killer and support player.  The only thing Andrei showed me was his inconsistency and an apparent lack of interest and willingness to put in an honest effort every game.

  71. mastro18 says:

    Their working on something extra special for pouliot muahahaha.

  72. habsfansince91 says:

    i can’t see anyone givingus any 1st or 2nd round picks for the kostitsyns.

  73. Chris says:

    Not really news…teams almost always extend qualifying offers to any RFA’s they have to keep their rights.  Not tendering an offer makes them a UFA and you risk losing them for nothing on July 1.

  74. mastro18 says:

    how bout this we trade sergei and andrei to LA for Frolovs rights and 1st or 2nd round pick.


  75. SeriousFan09 says:

    PG is a great practical joker, he totally caught JM off-guard with the SK offer.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  76. adam76 says:

    Sergei Kostitsyn?  unreal

  77. Qais says:

    OH GOD. Sergei got an offer. The organization loves this guy lol


  78. Chuck says:

    Looks like Sergei might be back in the fold.  :)

    Glad to see Pyatt and Lapierre get the offers, too.

    And as for Carey, well… that goes without saying.


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  79. Hockey Socks says:

    Sergei? Really?

  80. SmartDog says:

    How much do you think Price signs for?  And how long?


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  81. Qais says:

    2 years, 3,75 million


  82. oshawahabsfan says:

    I’m not sure what he currently makes, but he sure didn’t earn a raise, and he has no arbitration rights. Anything above 2.5 would be ridiculous in my mind. As for length, I’m thinking the team has confidence as he has been their man since he was drafted, so it may be in Pleks territory, five or six years.

  83. nick says:

    I think PG will lock him up. 5 years, with his per/year rate getting slightly larger at the second half of the contract or something like that(2.5 start -3.5?4? at the end?)… This keeps his salary down now and gives time for PG to work.

    In my opinion… As is… the team has several players who are locked up for a number of years. It doesn’t make sense to have their numero uno’s contract expire half way through…

  84. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    I think the holdup has more to do with term than money. If I were PG, I’d be pressing pretty hard for a 3 year contract. Get him locked in for a few years while his stock is low, then the contract ends with 1 year left with RFA status. If I’m Price, I want at least 4 years so I am a UFA when it’s done.

    It should be less than 2.5/year. Maybe something like $7M for 3 years. If they can lock him up for less than 2M, I’d call that a significant victory.

  85. oshawahabsfan says:

    Sergei signed and then traded? Haha who knows, PG seems to have some moves up his sleeve

  86. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    It’s a qualifying offer to make sure we get compensated if he gets an offer sheet from another NHL club. I doubt Sergei is going to sign anything that puts him back in JM’s hands, but it would be foolish of PG to let him go for free. I don’t think we could get more than a 6th rounder for him, but it’s better than nothing.

  87. SeriousFan09 says:

    Just noticed, a qualifying offer to SK but not Pouliot? Really?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  88. oshawahabsfan says:

    PG better get on that, it’d be foolish to let Poliout go, I think he will be an important player going forward for this team

  89. nick says:

    SK has always been a favorite of mine, although I have to agree… Pouliot should be a priority given the potential we’ve seen from him this season. Then again perhaps their holding off in order to make a pitch to Latendresse 😛

  90. crabvader says:

    That would be nice.

  91. oshawahabsfan says:

    You’d give up on a player that didn’t even play half a season with the club, night the brightest bulb in the box are you

  92. c.robillard says:

    I think we should get rid of Pouliot too. He’s dead weight imo. If he can be consistent and score every 2 games like he did last season, I’ll eat my words. But until then, I don’t wanna see this guy with a nonchalant attitude playing for the CH anymore.

  93. sh00n says:

    After missing a good portion of the season with an injury and having no form of conditioning whatsoever? I’d say someone obviously doesn’t follow enough hockey.

  94. Castor says:


  95. B says:

    Habs UFAs:
    Mara, Moore, Metropolit, Bergeron,
    Belle, Sanford, Glumac, Benoit, Henry

    Habs RFAs:
    Price, Pyatt, S.Kostitsyn, Lapierre,
    Pouliot, Johansson, Trotter, Carle,
    S.Kostitsyn, Wyman, Busto, Desharnais,
    Russell, Stewart, Desjardins

    Habs Signed Prospects:
    Pacioretty, Engqvist, Bishop, Nash,
    Palushaj, Weber, Fortier, Schultz,
    Maxwell, White, Dumont, Conboy,
    Klubertanz, Mayer, Lefebvre, Masse

  96. warriorhockey says:

    Johansson is a RFA next year

  97. HardHabits says:

    That’s the state of the NHL. It’s a two-tier system. On the right you have the few big money earners and on the left either the young bucks salivating at the prospect of the big money once UFA is achieved or the stop gap patches, the dregs basically, needed to round out a roster because the cap limits the ability to have any kind of depth other than what is taken via the draft.

    No salary cap I wouldn’t even consider rebuilding via the ballistic armoured vehicule, but that’s the reality of today’s NHL ponzi scheme.

  98. Chorske says:

    I don’t get rewarding Sergei but dumping on Moore.

    I wonder whether management and coaching are on the same page wrt Sergei, because I would’ve bet my left nut that he was gonzo, sayonara, so long and thanks for all the fish.

  99. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    Sergei is RFA, they have to give him a qualifying offer or he becomes a UFA and walks for nothing. I don’t think he’s going to sign the offer and will go to the KHL if a deal can’t be worked out with another NHL club.

    I’d love to see Moore back next year, but they will probably only offer him a one year deal with Pleks & Gomez locked up, and Eller & Lapierre looking good for 3rd/4th centers in the long term. I think they’ll try and cement some more pieces before they can figure out what to offer to Moore. With Pleks re-signing, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Moore moving along.

  100. ed lopaz says:

    seems to me that managment and coaching might not have been on same page re: goaltender, as well.

    Martin plays to win.

    Gauthier’s agenda?



  101. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m not sure it’s a reward for Sergei so much as making sure they can trade him. And I don’t get how they dumped on Moore?

  102. boy from school says:

    weird that sergei gets one before poupou no?

  103. Max_a_million says:

    I think they are just protecting an asset so as not to lose it for nothing. 

    This allows them to trade him, or just in general control his contract.  The price is probably really low anyway. 

  104. Bugs says:

    I guess I shoulda read down afore postin to avoid needless repetition.


    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

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  105. Mark C says:

    Without reading below to see if it has been answered. It is likely that “poupou” is close to a deal with the Habs. Also, these offers do not have to be made until the 28th.

  106. Bugs says:

    Sergei and not my boy Poolio???

    What’s the world coming to?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  107. habitual says:

    I don’t see the $$ offered …?

  108. SmartieHab says:

    I see a lot of hate regarding the offer to SK74. I for one am glad that this happened. Clearly JM and PG think (like I do) this is guy is one our more talented young forwards. Does he have issues – of course. But JM hated SK at one point last season, and for him to really agree to give him another chance, (and hopefully he doesnt just get 2 minutes a game on the 4th line) should spark Sergei’s hopes etc.

    As for the AK46 hate, well he had 8 points in 19 games in the playoffs. But he also was the hardest hitting, and most consistent hitter on our team throughout the playoffs. It was always him or Lapps as top checkers/hitters. That’s a plus many people don’t look into, is that both Kost bros like to throw their weight around (I do like those open ice hits they do, there wasn’t many this year compared to the last couple though)

    I think even by letting Metro go, would be usfeul who is getting on in age, and normally would at least fetch 1.5 mill each, (it’d be tough to sign him for under 1.5) we can give that money to some kids and form a strong young third line. SK74, Eller and Benny (just a simple example of course).

    O well, I look forward to some more deals/signings. As much as I liked the Hammer here the past few years, it’d be great to see him bought out or dealt. That way we’d have some more space, to grab a top 6 forward, and sign some upcoming UFAs for next season (my boy Markov)

    If that happens well, I’d say we would have a pretty strong team

    Plek Cammy ?? (AK46, Frolov? )

    Gomez Gio ?/ (Benny ? Schultz? – he’s a big  body who knows – could be to soon, but playing with savvy vets could be great for him)

    Eller SK74 ??         (Really  the top 3 lines here can be filled in by anyone in the parentheses, depending on their development etc)

    Pyatt Lapps ?? (Moore)

    Markov – Subban

    Spacek – O’Byrne

    Gill – Gorges

    Price (and go sign Biron as a back up)


  109. habs001 says:

    i believe they should give ak46 40 games and see if he can produce… but lets not revise the playoffs…ak46 was just brutal 90% of the time….

  110. secretdragonfly says:

    Don’t worry about it – lately this site has been nothing BUT needless repetition.

  111. 24 Cups says:

    Puck Daddy’s mock entry draft.  I’m not sure if this has already been posted.

    These qualifying offers have little meaning.  It’s standard procedure as outlined in the CBA.  I can’t believe that the Habs won’t make offers to all their players in order to protect the team’s assets.  The Tallon blunder of last summer isn’t lost on any GM.

  112. derfab says:

    Sergei is still valuable because he doesn’t yet command big bucks (in the NHL).

    Like Andre, he is the real deal (talent) but has been tricky to manage. They will both be 70 point guys eventually but it may not happen here.

    They should not be moved unless we get a real impact guy;somebody to scare the crap out of cocky guys who aren’t willing to pay the price.


    That B f’in ugly guy was the real Conne Smythe winner and makes Atlanta an automatic contender. Chicago kept most of its talent but gave up its greatest playoff contributor. Toews is superb but was not even close in overall impact on the final result.

    Habs need this exact Fergi-type of player to grow into a real threat. If the goal is a cup, I’d even give up Markov to get him or Hartnell.

  113. SmartieHab says:

    An automatic contender? You’re kidding right? Surely you must be,

    Because Hossa, Heatly, and Kovalchuk never made Atlanta anything. And from what you’re saying, Dustin Byfuglien is a bigger impact on the Thrashers. O yes that’s a good one.

    He’s a good player, but playing with Toews and Kane helped ALOT. Keep in mind where did he play during the Regular season? O ya thats right not with those two guys. Being on a line with such strong linemates, forces the defence to watch them, and leave Dustin open, sure Pronger would be tied up with him but overall the backcheckers and defence are more worried by Kane and Toews.

    I can’t see him having over 70 points a year – ever.

  114. bostonantifan says:

    You’ve got to be kidding.  AK & SK, the real deal?  Talent-wise maybe, but talent without work-ethic gives you exactly what they are, two underperforming stiffs.  If they haven’t figured out how to give a full effort by now, anyone thinking they will figure it out has to be an idot.

  115. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    I think Martin is playing to win now, Gauthier is looking to the future. Halak was better last year, I believe Halak will be better this year, Gauthier seems to think that Price will be better long term. Martin made some decisions this year that seemed to be in a “win tonight” mode. I think that is often the way a coach has to think, but it also may have hurt the development of some of the young players.

  116. ed lopaz says:

    AGREED !

  117. derfab says:

    oops, Nashville.

  118. jbroderi says:

    how do you think frolov would look beside cammy and pleks?  or do you think he is another kovalev without the charisma??  maybe that’s why pouliot hasn’t been offered anything.  I could see PG trying to dump the kostitsyns, now that they are signed, at the draft.  They could then offer Pouly a deal, as I think he needs another chance, with a lot of conditioning, and maybe get frolov as a UFA.  Really, he would be replaceing AK, so it might be a wash even if he didn’t score 40 or something.\

    the headache that is ak46 is that he plays like a ghost for a month, and just when we want to bench him or shoot him, he plays a dominant 10 games and gets 12 or 13 points.  he has the talent, just has brain cramps all the time!



    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  119. homerbowen says:

    WOW!!!!!! FAN 590 in Toronto has fired 3 of their biggest Laff butt kissers (Landry & Stellick) from the morning show and Mike Hogan (admitted Hab hater) from the 10:00AM slot. Great news maybe now I`ll go back to listening to their station.

  120. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I just thought of something, would you rather Moore as the 3rd line Centre (who can fill in on the 2nd in case of injury) at…what…$1.5m/yr OR would you rather Matt Lombardi in that role at….what…$2.75m/yr?

  121. jbroderi says:

    sounds like kovalev for sure.  I figured we could have got him for 3 or 3.5 mill, but i guess not.  Too bad though, because I think with montreal’s leadership and MArkov to help him out, Maybe he could have been a force in Montreal. 

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  122. andrewberkshire says:

    Can’t afford Lombardi, I’d rather Moore.

  123. derfab says:

    Inconsistent players like Andre are symptoms of a leadership void. The Habs have some players that lead some of the guys but no one that leads all. Markov dropped the torch and (though i like Gionta and 2 or 3 others for this) no ne else looks quite impressive enough to hold it up again.

  124. NightRyder says:
    Interesting response from RedLineReport’s Kyle Woodlief during a USA Today chat:
    [Comment From DionDion: ] 

    In his
    draft year, you were very high on Andrei Kostitsyn… In your estimation
    what has changed in his game to the point where he could almost be
    considered a bust… I recall that he was the type of player described
    as always wanting the puck and doing whatever it took to get there…
    now Montreal fans don’t want him anywhere near the puck because it
    usually results in half an effort, a stupid penalty, and a lot of
    eye-rolling when I watch my television.

    Tuesday June 22, 2010 2:07 Dion
    Red Line: 

    Hardly a bust. I believe he had scored about 50 goals
    in the two seasons preceding this one, in which he was injured and
    often ineffective. But it’s true that he hasn’t reached up to the level
    of our expectations, and the most puzzling part for us is that he was
    just so hungry for the puck and so strong on the puck when he competed
    internationally for Belarus. He often singlehandedly kept his
    undermanned team in games with his high intensity, effort, and pure
    sniping ability. Now, he only shows occasional glimpses of that passion
    he used to have. I think he needs to get his head on straight off the
    ice before he can come close to realising his potential on the ice. He
    and his brother have pretty low maturity levels, and I think they’d
    benefit from being separated on different teams. Neither is a good
    influence on the other at this point.

  125. derfab says:

    Won’t Eller will be given every chance to earn that spot? Meaning Moore may or may not be signed as insurance?

  126. ed lopaz says:


  127. zozotheclown says:

    Thats what I think, would be nice to have Laps/Moore/Pyatt as a 4th line though, cap permitting.

  128. Trisdin says:

    Am I crazy for wanting to see Paul Kariya in a Habs uniform this year? I would buy his jersey the moment they sign him.

  129. derfab says:

    A big, burly captain needs to be a better influence on both.

  130. secretdragonfly says:

    He’s making $6million and will be 36 this year – not likely.

  131. NightRyder says:

    You iz crazee

  132. jbroderi says:

    moore, mainly because of the price.  ellar i think will get every chance to make the big club though, and I think, at best for the habs management, would be able to fill in at number 2 if an injury occurred.


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  133. derfab says:

    did the K bros. start for Italy today?

  134. jbroderi says:

    completely agree.  f#cking nuts is likely more accurate!!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  135. NightRyder says:

    Pining for Getzlaf aside, I think AK46 could indeed be salvaged.

    Sergei is a piece of crap who needs to be moved to a non-hockey market where he can get 60 me-first points and con everyone there into thinking he’s a good player.

    Separate them and give Andrei one more shot this year. If he continues to hang out with shady underworld characters and underperform on the ice, flog him at the deadline.

    What he really needs is a right-handed centre like Spezza setting him up all year…

  136. NightRyder says:

    We need young guys outperforming their contracts, not fossils hanging on.

  137. jbroderi says:

    agree with the separation.   they aren’t the sedins who push each other.  they go into seclusion with each other.  if we split them up, i think they both may benefit!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  138. punkster says:

    I was gong to jump on the “Why-the-hell-sign-SK” bandwagon. However, I have made a resolution to myself not to think poorly of any of our players until after July 1. Too many variables in play right now.


  139. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    Bad news is that Brian Burke gets the timeslot.

    The Other Wing

  140. Storm Man says:

    SK on twitter on the Halak trade…. Huge mistake of Habs management…. I wonder if this is a carry over from the beef Price had with him in the playoffs this should be fun to watch. 

  141. SeriousFan09 says:

    Carry over from him being an immature *** I would say.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  142. HardHabits says:

    You really want to see Spezza a Hab don’t you?

  143. Puck Bard says:

    Then he probably now knows what we all suspect: he’s been dumped.

  144. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    These offers make sense. Price, Pyatt, Lapierre are no brainers. Making an offer to SK74 helps protect an asset. Pouliot will be offered something by Monday if his rights aren’t traded. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s packaged with a pick or another roster player for a reliable top 6 winger…

    The Other Wing

  145. Storm Man says:

    Guess he will be the GM of the fan 590 also.

  146. habs fan from stonyplain says:

    Why the hell did pg not offer pouliot anything and he offered the biggest bum in hockey, the sisters have to go, and if we lose benny for nothing we might as well mail in the season, sure he had a rough post season, but he is big, fights, skates and goes to the front of the net.

  147. Trisdin says:

    Kariya is hardly a fossil hanging on givin the season he had last year on a bad team, I would agree that maybe the last thing the habs need is a smurf winger. That said, I would still take him for 2 years at 1.5 per.

  148. krob1000 says:

    is sergei really on twitter? I doubt he would be talking about the habs dealings thoguh…are you making this stuff up or did he really say that?

  149. jbroderi says:

    you are a spezza guy for sure!!  nothing wrong with that, i think he could have magic with cammy or gio with a little leadership, which montreal has!!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  150. The Big One says:

    Moore, as a third line centre, for the price.  As for Lars, I think he’ll start the year on the 4th line.  If he plays well enough to be a top 6 player, I think he’ll be moved to a wing.  But that will be a long time from now, and a tonne can change.

  151. Trisdin says:

    I thought he was a UFA this year.

  152. TorontoHabsFan says:

    For all the wailing and moaning I read here about Gauthier, you have to think that so far into this off-season Leafs fans must be pretty irate with Burke.

    1) Horton becomes available – he’s a prototypical “Burke” player, and even with Kaberle to dangle he loses out to Boston because he can’t include a draft pick

    2) Byfuglien becomes available – he’s probably EVEN more of a “Burke” player and yet again he’s left on the sidelines…he has literally nothing (outside of Bozak, Kadri and Stalberg) to offer Chicago.

    Man, the self-professed Smartest Man In The Room sure has a habit of looking dumb.

  153. SmartDog says:

    I can’t find him on Twitter.  I don’t think he’s there. 

    Unless you think this is him: http://twitter.com/sk74


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  154. Puck Bard says:

    Ya that’s gotta be him.

  155. punkster says:

    I immediately zeroed in on your hidden message there THF. The inclusion of the phrase “draft pick” was an obvious slander towards Burke once you move that “r” a few spaces to the right. Don’t try to fool us man. We’re on to you.


  156. jbroderi says:

    common sense would put pouliot of chicago’s radar.  He will be extremely cheap and could maybe fill in for the points lost from big buff and versteeg(maybe pouly and a second round pick for verteeg???)


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  157. punkster says:

    I bet on a trade or two. We have a few assets to package and needs to fulfill.


  158. jbroderi says:



    or ladd stright up for pouly.   I like pouliot of he gets a little stronger, puts some meat on.  he could be a force!

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  159. Storm Man says:

    I know Cassie Campbell it is on her twitter.

  160. TorontoHabsFan says:

    man, that took me a few seconds to figure out -well done old boy, well done!

  161. Storm Man says:

    No did not look at that one.

  162. SmartDog says:

    Okay so it’s NOT coming from SK on Twitter. 

    It’s this guy:  http://twitter.com/GenadiB (Russian sports writer based in Montreal)

    On Twitter saying this is what Sergei said…. and Reteweeted by Cassie Cambell.

    So it might have been said in a casual conversation or it might not have been said at all.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  163. SmartDog says:

    WHO’s worth MORE in a trade:

    – Pouliot

    – AK

    – SK


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  164. SmartDog says:

    Yes, but His Truculence has done a great job of building up Boston.  You have to give him credit for that.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  165. punkster says:

    Old? OLD!!??!!

    Who you talkin’ to ya fumb duck?



  166. SeriousFan09 says:

    ATM: The plane ticket that would get them to their new team.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  167. Ian Cobb says:

    Right Chris, SK is gone, by offering him a contract we can get a bigger bag of pucks for him.

    The two players that we could still use are Moore and Metro. But both would have to accept to play here for minimum.

  168. Chorske says:

    you guys are killin me :)

  169. punkster says:

    As reluctant as I am to say this…AK…I think…maybe…

    Fact is I doubt any of these 3 could be traded without being in a package.


  170. ed lopaz says:

    AK was worth over $9,000,000 to Gainey and the Habs.

    Pouliot is worth about $900,000, I would guess.

    SK is worth about $900 (in pesos).

    SK undermines the “team” concept.

    He should have been a tennis player, or a rock star.

  171. Mr_MacDougall says:

    It depends on the team, but I think AK is worth more. He is loaded with potential, and underachieved scoring 20+ goals, at a reasonable contract. I’d love to see him gone too, so I am trying to convince muyself that he would land a decent player in return.

    Honestly, I would like to see Pouliot back, he has a bullet shot (that misses the net for an easy opposition breakout frequently) and above average puck handling with speed and size. If he could mold himself into a sound defensive minded and more physical player, he could be a long term third liner for the Habs… as a top line winger I am not convinced.

    What deal are you hoping for? any player or player type in particular?

  172. Ian Cobb says:

    Fan Summit Updates

  173. ed lopaz says:

    Agree on SK.

    Moore and Metro are real, legit, NHL players.

    They both have NHL skill, and pro attitudes.

    Habs should try treating them that way.

    It would do the team some good.

  174. Chorske says:

    Depends on your perspective. If you’re Minnesota, Pouliot was worth 37 points.

    Still… in order: AK, SK, Pouliot

    All problem children, so the best we could hope for is to find another team willing to trade problems.

  175. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I really like Metro, he def. helped us in the regular season last year. I think we have to let him go, we have been losing way too many games to injury the past few seasons and I think is durability is questionable. I like his determination.

  176. Storm Man says:

    SD echofon is a twitter app for the iphone and ipad. I know this as I have echofon on my iphone…. So it looks very much like SK did post that.

  177. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Thks for getting to the bottom of that. I am glad he is smart enough not to put something like that on Twitter. I think every player on the Habs would have been upset by the trade. They probably would have wanted to keep both, thats why tough financial decisions are left to management I suppose…

  178. Chorske says:

    Great Ian, thanks! I look forward to this every year.

  179. habsfanincalgary says:

    Anyone hear how much Pricey’s offer was (and what length of the contract)?

    Not signing Moore doesn’t make sense.  PG pulled the trigger at the trading deadline to give up a ***2nd rounder***?  Who got the better of this trade!

    My vote is to try to shop Gomer and get a legitimate offensive forward…his money is Kovulchuk-type money…

    The defense is looking good.  Goaltending has some question marks.  We need more balance scoring…consistently.  The addition of a legitimate goal scorer to compliment Cammi would help the team a great deal!

  180. SmartDog says:

    Just wondering what people were thinking.

    I think it’s a no-brainer to try and trade Andrei and to sign Pouliot.  Pouliot is the youngest, and so consistancy issues may be something you can work out.  AK isn’t likley to turn into what people think IMHO.  Pouliot showed flashes of brilliant play – he needs to mature. 

    SK…. well the guy has a death wish.  Sign him, or trade him or whatever.  He very well may be a worthwhile project if you can keep him in line, but in Mtl I think he’s burned a lot of bridges.  Does anyone WANT to play with him?


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  181. SeriousFan09 says:

    Price’s qualifying offer would be a 5% increase on his previous entry-level deal not including any bonuses on the contract I understand, but the qualifying offer is to retain his rights and negotiate the actual deal out later.

    Moore may be in negotiation, team’s dealing with their RFAs right now, realistically of the 4 pending UFAs he’s the only one likely to get a new contract.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  182. MD says:

    So, Sergei says in the interview that he had some offers from other teams in NHL and even he’s not signed with Habs he will try to stay in NHL before going to Europe.

    Also interesting remarks about nobody talking again to him again. He took the side of Latendresse and Halak, saying that “the bosses” were doing something weird sending those dudes out and also mentions that JM is the big boss on the team.

    Man, looks like the club is taken by ex.senators brotherhood/mafia…And they blamed Guy for not talking to the players…

  183. Mr_MacDougall says:

    for sure… Pouliot is an interesting player, he has the tools, if it all came together he could become a 30 goal two way player.. but he hasn’t shown that effort towards a defensive game to cover up his offensive dry spells… Ak is not a good role model for young players and would love to see him gone!

  184. thorandresson says:

    where did you hear this?  have a link?

  185. SmartDog says:

    Yeah, but they’re going to get Hall or Seguin this year (either is better than Kessel), and probably another top-5 pick next year.  And of course there’s Rask (this wasn’t Burke but was also TO) who HAS been a big plus.  All in all, Boston stands to be a very strong team over the next 5 years thanks to TO and Burkie.  


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  186. SmartDog says:

    Stuff like this makes me really pissed off about losing Boucher.

    Communication & motivation are twins, and sooooo important to winning. 


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  187. Qais says:

    “Captain of Belarus team Ruslan Salei considers Andrey Kostytsin as the best hockey player of Belarusians at the moment in world”

    what do you think about this lol


  188. Ian Cobb says:

    We will soon see what our team will look like in a full one week from now.

    By July 1st free agents are indeed free. So this week look for some major trades or signings. We are not done trading by a long shot. Should be interesting when everyone’s back is against the wall, (players and teams)  these few days ahead.

          reading “More Fan Summit Information”


  189. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    If SK74 bolts for the KHL then by making the offer we retain his rights. Might not be worth much but even a late round draft pick is worth more than nothing.

    The Other Wing

  190. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    It seems strange to me that we would part with a second round draft pick for Moore and then not resign him.  I find it hard to believe that management was looking at him as a rental player for the playoffs…unless they were far more optimistic about our chances in the playoffs than anyone else when they made the deal!

    Considering how well Moore played on that third line during the playoffs I think it would be a crime not to resign him.  And considering how much he has bounced around, I wonder if we couldn’t get him on the cheap if it was a three year deal. 

    I don’t like the idea of putting Eller on the third or fourth line.  Apparently he can play the wing, so if he is going to be up with the big club, put him in a position to succeed on one of the top two lines.  Surely he’ll make mistakes, but he’s going to have to.  Playing alongside Pleks, I’m sure he can learn a lot.

    Gauthier made it fairly clear that he was going to sign a veteran goalie to backup Carey; I wonder who that will be, a signing or a trade?

  191. Ian Cobb says:

    I agree, the only problem is that the country has only 3 players. Two of them come from the same gene pool and they are drowning.

       reading “More Fan Summit Information”

  192. Kooch7800 says:

    As much as people Dog Pouliot, I think he will be ok.  He wants to play in Montreal and I think he will be fine.  He had almost 20 goals last year and should good signs.  He wasn’t good in the playoffs but it was his first attempt and he is still young. We could have used Lattenderness during the playoffs agaist philly though. He plays with a bit more of an edge and that is something we have been lacking.

  193. SeriousFan09 says:

    Except for there being just about no talent in the FA pool for Burke to sign players and every team in the NHL knowing that Burke is desperate for any kind of scoring forward they can twist him on any trade he tries to make.

    Leafs are not really going to make massive improvements when they’re one injury away with Kessel from not being able to score shooting at an empty net.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  194. Kooch7800 says:

    I think Eller may have changed the plan a bit though.  Lappierre is also a centre and could be on the fourth line.  The major issue is Eller is an offensive player not a definsive forward.  He is not really suited for the 3rd or fourth lines. 

    I still can’t figure out with Plek’s got a no trade clause.  If Eller starts lighting it up we will be in trouble as pleks and gomer make too much money to get less ice

  195. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Someone said below that this kid is a major distraction on Andrei, and I wholeheartedly agree.  I haven’t given up on AK yet because I haven’t seen him play without Sergei around.  The flashes of brilliance (a la the 11 goals or whatever it was in December) can be, hopefully, channeled more consistently without the distraction of Sergei

  196. VicHabsFan says:

    Someone may have asked or answered this already, but kindly enlighten me: does the existance of qualifying offers to these players eliminate the threat that another team will sign them to offer sheets?

  197. Ian Cobb says:

    We have a great one in Hamilton!

  198. j2c says:

    I need some information…I was planning to make a trip to Montreal for the day that tickets go on sale. Can anybody please tell me when the tickets go on slae and where I would have to go in Montreal to get it and roughly the time to stand in line. Thanks

  199. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I don’t know anything about Eller really,  except what I’ve heard since the trade, but perhaps putting him in Pouliot’s old spot with Gomer and Gio would be good for him…working with a couple of vets while he breaks into the League (this is assuming that he can play on the wing, which I’ve only heard on here I think).  Pouliot is a good player, big and has hands, but I wonder if a year on the fourth line, focusing on his physical game wouldn’t be a good idea for him.   We’ve all seen he has hands, but he could use his size more I think.  A year with less pressure for offensive output might help him develop that physical edge and develop into a power forward…..who knows though 😉

  200. Kooch7800 says:

    Unless the Habs make some trades there really isn’t any money for Free agents. I would love to see them Dump Hammer & sk or Pouliot to move up in the draft to get Mcllrath  and then pick up Volchenkov.

    Someone mentioned trading Markov now and at first I thought they were crazy but he will miss up until November and is a UFA that will command huge money at the end of the season.  Maybe this is the time to get a really good offensive player back for him.  We have shown in the playoffs we can do it without him.  Unless he signs an extention over the summer I would trade him so it isn’t a distraction all year long

  201. Kooch7800 says:

    Not a bad theory actually.  He needs to work on his defense as that seemed to get him in the dog house with JM all last year

  202. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    That’s right, I wasn’t thinking of Sanford.  I don’t really know much about him, but he backed up Luongo, so perhaps he’ll have some wisdom for Carey.  It did seem as though Gauthier was intent on making a move to get a backup, or at least that is how I interpreted his comments on the Halak trade conference call….although with what money he intends to do that is beyond me! 😉

  203. jimmy shaker says:

    MAB and co and the habs getting closer on a deal!  Sweet!  At least I’ll still be president of one fan club, since Jaro screwed up and left town!


  204. Willy the bum says:

    Moore and Metro, I will be missed.  Great workmanship and really care for any team they’re on.

  205. GrimJim says:

    No. It means the Habs retain the rights to the players, who remain RFAs. So if a team submits an offer sheet HAbs retain the right to compensatory draft picks. And if the Habs and the player can’t agree to a contract by a specific date the qualifying offer becomes a one-year contract. I also think that no contract for the upcoming season can be lower than the qualifying offer but I would have to check that. If no qualifying offer were made, the player would be a UFA and Montreal gets nothing.

  206. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Totally agree, I don’t understand why there is so much talk about getting Biron or Lalime, actually I do understand, but Sanford is perfectly capable of doing the job!

  207. SeriousFan09 says:

    IF you move Markov, you have to at the very least make sure you’re getting a blue-chip defensive prospect in return, it doesn’t do us any good to lose the defencemen who starts a lot of offence from the blue line and just put another guy up front and no one to get the puck to him or clear our zone. Subban is still a rookie and it’s not right to put it all on him for carrying offence from the back end.

    Canadiens playoff record this year with Markov was 5-7 as well if you count the game he was injured in, they won a playoff round with him, won 1 without him and lost 1 without him. The team needed to learn to play without Markov, but in the same way all teams need to learn to work without their stars playing. An extension this summer would be best, but if it can’t happen, he needs to be dealt for someone who has got star potential on defence as a prospect. Too often has this club tried to get by with just one ace defencemen, only to see it all fall apart when he’s gone. I want Markov here, but any deal involving him has to bring back at least some of what we’re sending away.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  208. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I says pardon!

  209. Rugger says:

    Just means that if someone gives them an offer, we can match or accept draft picks instead of losing them as UFA’s

  210. ed lopaz says:

    on RDS a few nights ago they were upset about his knee surgery. he’s out for about 4 months.



  211. The Cat says:

    I dont know. Everytime I seen Grabovski hes seemed pretty good but its only been a handful of times that I seen him.

  212. derfab says:

    They tried that with him in Minnesota and he got demoralized with the dump and chase, blame me for the goals against regimen and was traded to us. I agree that he needs to get meaner and more physical, just like 6 or 8 other Habs, but I doubt he’s wiling to invest, ditto the rest. WE NEED A BIG MEAN MO FO CAPTAIN to teach these guys how to go to war.











  213. since1988 says:

    according to Bob McKenzie on Twitter Kril Kabanov (sorry if misspelt) now represented by Rick Curan who i believe is Pleks agent we should take a chance on him then if he is there

  214. SmartDog says:

    I think that was an offer to sign his cast, not his contract.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  215. derfab says:

    Tell me this won’t be another Mats Sundin summer.

  216. SeriousFan09 says:

    Agree, at 27th overall the risk-reward ratio favours his selection.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  217. ed lopaz says:

    disagree vehemently.(sp?) :-)

    this team has worked very hard to build itself into a winner.

    we have no room for this selfish puke.

    let the Rangers sign him.

    He would be perfect in New York.



  218. The Cat says:

    With the top 2 centres being small, they better sign all the PP specialists they can cause theyre going to need it…as usual.

  219. jimmy shaker says:

    Yes, but Marky will be out a little bit longer than MAB.  So the brass are figuring that MAB can do the job again next year, like he did this year.  Plus look at it this way.  Let’s compare us going after Kaberle or sticking with MAB.   MAB’s younger than Kaberle, cheaper at about 3mill per, shoots better, actually can body check, speaks french.  The only think Kaberle has on MAB in my book is his vision and passing.  So for 3mill less and a younger quicker D-man that can wire it…….i’ll take MAB everytime!


  220. nightmare_49 says:

       from Blueshirt Banter

       Maybe it is a blessing in disguise that the Rangers have no cap room to work with this summer.  I found myself looking ahead to 2011, and I must say, it is one of the best free agent classes I have ever seen.  The list includes Brad Richards, Chara, Jovanovski, Thornton, Lidstrom, Giguere, Semin, Markov, McCabe, Vokoun, Gagne, St. Louis, Patrice Bergeron, Connolly, Brewer, Kaberle, Bryzgalov, Mikko Koivu, Ehrhoff, Hejduk, and Backes.

       Glad to see most of our posters are ignoring ****242.

  221. jimmy shaker says:

    C’mon you know you want him back!  Stephan Lebeau…..et la but!  I mean MAB…..et la but!



  222. Rugger says:

    And still missed the play-offs

  223. SeriousFan09 says:

    Please, 18 years old and he’s a hopeless case? You need to roll the dice on players at times and Kabanov easily matches most of the projected top 10 picks on talent. Why not instead of giving up on him the team tries to turn him around? New junior club and some AHL time could do a lot to get him to where he should be. His conflicts with the KHL and Russia mean his options are limited, battles with the KHL over maintaining an escape clause in his original contract to join the NHL later have him very sour on playing in his home country. He’s NHL or bust and that reality has pretty much slapped him across the face.

    You got vehemently right btw.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  224. SeriousFan09 says:

    Joe Thornton as a sought-after FA? Only if you have no intention of winning the Stanley Cup.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  225. Duracell3 says:

    Really really hoping SK74 opts to play for Dynamo Minsk.

  226. jbroderi says:

    halak got the habs beaten in the play-offs if we use your logic!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  227. thorandresson says:

    I’m sure a lot of those guys, especially the most coveted of them (Chara, Richards, Jovo, Thornton, Markov) will be resigned before July 1st, just look at this year, Pleks, Marleau and Pavelski already signed (I’m sure there’s others that i forgot to mention)

  228. G-Man says:

    Words of wisdom from Sanford to Price: “Stop the #@*$ puck!”

  229. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s got a lot of points, he is the most notorious playoff choker in the NHL.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  230. saskhabfan says:

    They you would have cried even more (if that’s even possible) if gainey offered one of the most injury prone players in the league a contract like that.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  231. SmartDog says:

    When even I’m tired of hearing this story, you know we’ve had enough.

    It was an incredibly stupid trade that has us handcuffed for years. Most people agree with that but those who don’t (and there are a lot of those too) are unmovable.   

    Suggest we trade him for a bag of ice cubes or something creative at least!

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  232. Storm Man says:

    It was based on cold, Hard logic rooted in the lessons of hockey history on players who have one good year.

  233. WarHero says:

    See my above comment :)



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  234. WarHero says:

    Yeah, Valentenko & Perezhogin ————————————————————————

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  235. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I have wanted the Habs to get him ever since I saw him here in Moncton…the kid has Talent, which is something you can’t teach, sure he might have had some issues, but that could have been due to his parents being over here and girlfriend. The kid wants to play in NA, not Russia.

    Maybe he will be available…if so, I hope PG takes him. High risk, but he is worth a chance.

  236. jbroderi says:

    WE GET THE POINT! you don’t like gainer or PG.  fine, but instead of just whining about it and making negative posts, move on.  we have to deal with what we got, we know your opinion, it is valid to a degree, but move on!



    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  237. Chorske says:

    I wonder how many of those guys are actually going to hit the market. Mikko? No chance. Same for Richards, Chara and Lidstrom.

  238. Rugger says:

    I think you spilled some substance on your keyboard, some of the keys appear sticky,

  239. bostonantifan says:

    Actually, the worst that could happen would be for that stiff to be on the Habs roster next season.  I’d hate to see signing him prevent them from sigining Pouliot.  At least Pouliot actually showed he has the ability to score goals (even though he disappeared after his injury).

  240. bostonantifan says:

    Bergeron can bodycheck?  You’ve got to be kidding!  He has a tough time just staying up on his skates!

  241. bostonantifan says:

    Please enlighten us, are you referring to Desjardins or Sanford?

  242. Bill J says:

    Sigh – your back on the GM/Axis of Evil bandwagon again ?

    You where doing so good, not talking about that anymore, it was quite refreshing.


    We Know you hate Habs Management Tony, I doubt anyone here has not seen one of your 3 million posts on the subject, spin it different man.  It’s really unnecessary to blame the GM who actually built a team that made the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in 17 years.

    In OTHER words, if Gainey is bad….  WTF do you think of previous management ?

  243. darcy1 says:

    i’ve read that in a few years, when gomez’s cap hit is 7.3 but his actual salary is only 5.5 or less, he may be looked upon as an asset to teams trying to get to the floor of the cap but spending as little as possible. Not sure how logical this theory is, but if we can dump him after 2011-12 it will give us the 7.3 mil to invest in other areas..

  244. diehardhab says:

    ticket sales are online now

  245. NightRyder says:

    Is it that obvious?

    I really think Spezza has the potential to lead the league in scoring. A trade would rejuvenate him, and playing with a great team guy like Cammalleri instead of a toxic troll like Heatley would benefit both players.

    I’m telling you, if Spezza comes to the Habs, he’ll get 110 points.

    If we had Boucher coaching him instead of Stevie Wonder, that would have been nice too.

    Sadly, Gomez will get 18 goals next year, be a plus-2 and win 50.1% of his faceoffs and everyone will talk about how improved he is, and why he’s worth the money because he strokes Gionta in the room.


  246. New says:

    I didn’t get that from the article. I thought he said he wanted to play in the NHL, didn’t expect that contract issues would be discussed until after 1 July and at that time he would explore his options at the NHL level before thinking about Europe. I didn’t see anything about tampering. Maybe I had a different translation machine.

  247. GrimJim says:

    Please don’t drink and blog

    A question mark key is a terrible thing to waste

  248. ed lopaz says:

    I spend a ton of time in arenas 12 months a year – following players closely.

    It is quite obvious –  usually from an early age – the kids who put themselves ahead of the team.

    Its very difficult to change this pattern once it takes hold.

    The talent is there, so it becomes tempting to run after these guys.

    But inevitably, they revert back to their selfish ways.

    They get drafted.

    They’re ‘thrilled” to be chosen

    They work hard to make a good first impression.

    And then something goes wrong.

    Because, out of 210 kids who get drafted, maybe a handful make it to a big NHL contract, and even those guys have bumps along the way.

    These “Kabanov’s” are fine until something does not go their way.

    Very simple – think SK – its the same pattern.

    And in the Habs organisation, we have no room for this kind of BS.

    Any way, only time will tell.

    I’ve been wrong about Halak, and I thought Plekanec would wait at least until July 1, so take what I have to say and just flip it around.

    George Constanza and I have a lot in common – just do the opposite of what we suggest, and you’ll win the cup like a dynasty.

    At least I can spell. :-)



  249. NightRyder says:

    Poochie, you and I seem to be more sour about losing Boucher (and ignoring Robinson) that all the others put together.

    What gives?

  250. GrimJim says:

    I think it was less of a bodycheck and more like staying in front of Ovechkin so Ovie falls down when he runs MAB over…

  251. Psycho29 says:

    The sticky substance is from being on the Maple Leaf website wayyyy too much…

  252. darcy1 says:

    can you trade someone after you’ve qualified them before signing them to a contract? if yes, i don’t understand why they didn’t qualify Benny. if no, they must be using him as trade bait?

  253. jbroderi says:



    I’m just messing with you.  nobody could blame Halak for the habs losing, but i think desjardins might be a good back-up for Price.  I think he earned a shot.  it doesn’t really matter, because we won’t have a backup that can handle a heavy load.  we need a focused Price who is not living on his own in montreal.  maybe gio can take him in!!!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  254. Storm Man says:

    I only wear Hab shades, I cheer for the jersey not some name on the back of it, Try it sometime you will see things better.

  255. Storm Man says:

    So is yours enjoy your weekend.

  256. Storm Man says:

    I appreciate your lack of intelligence, But for now I will relish your silence.

  257. Nina76 says:

    I agree with you & alots of others do as well….WHAT A MISS WITH ROBINSON!!!!! jealous maybe there has to be something about this situation but we are not hearing about it nor will we I think Boucher left us because he wanted to be a coach……….Sorry to see him go. Some blogs say that he will be back to coach Habs…………………NOT IN YOUR DREAMS!!!!!!!!!

  258. Storm Man says:

    I understand why your such a bitter little man. A. Your soccer team lost today and you had some poopie in your diaper. B. you lost your Halak pacifer and you have nothing to suck on anymore. C. You get your medications from the guy who lives under the freeway. I think that covers why you are so upset today. I hope your weekend gets better for you.

  259. Rugger says:

    Do you know that Moore was not offered a contract?  He’s going to be a UFA, maybe he said he wants to see what he gets for offers.  I see no indication that the Habs are dumping on him, just silence, which would be expected if negotiations are ongoing.

    Sorry Andrew, I was replying to the one above you.

  260. andrewberkshire says:

    It’s all good.

  261. Chorske says:

    Not sure that Moore, who has lived with almost as much insecurity as Darche, would intentionally pursue an approach that perpetuates that insecurity. I think he’s played himself into at least a preliminary discussion- I am hoping that at least some contact has been made.

    But who knows- apparently Gauthier is the strong silent type.

  262. Rugger says:

    Agree that Moore probably wants security after all the movement he’s done, but remember that Plecs said yesterday that PG had been talking with his agent all spring to work toward a deal so public silence does not neccessarily mean private silence.

  263. Chorske says:

    Maybe it’s my petty side asserting itself, but if I’m Moore and I’m wanting to find out if I have a job next year, and where I am going to be living, and where my family will be living, I’m looking back on last season wondering how Sergei gets an offer at all- while I’m sitting around on pins and needles.

    Like you say, it may be a preliminary to a Sergei trade- I understand the need to protect an asset, regardless od much of an ass that asset may be- but didn’t Gauthier go on and on about how he and the rest of the allmighty GMs already know what a player is worth? Why the charade? Trade the mofo. He’s done, the coach dislikes him. For my part, I’m sick of the soap opera. Moore, on the other hand, is remarklably low maintenance.

  264. jbroderi says:

    I agree.  Big Buff is a missing piece for a team, not a building block.  he’s a 45 to 60 point getter for his career. 


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  265. derfab says:

    The “year” begins in April buddy. And you’re right, the Thrashers have never done anything.

  266. derfab says:

    Piece, link, block, roll of stick tape…whatever he is, he was HUGE for 6 weeks and could be the same in 2011.

  267. SmartieHab says:

    The ‘year’ begins in April. Sure. That’s when Byfuglien and the thrashers can practice their golf swing. It doesn’t matter how good you are in the Playoffs, if you don’t make em … well you can figure it out where im going with this.

  268. jbroderi says:

    I think people have very unrealistic expectations for him, kinda like people have for Halak.  6 weeks is 6 weeks.  He didn’t do much during the season, or at least not compared to what people now think he is capable of.  He is a big guy who can stand in front of the net, and I would love for the Habs to have got him, but he isn’t a savior for Atlanta. 

    Atlanta didn’t give much away for him in the grans scheme of things, but they’ll need a lot more to be close to a contender!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  269. SmartieHab says:

    Well he had an injury that seemed to hamper in the regular season, also our top 6 lines (from all the damn injurires last year) were never set, or had a extended period of time to really work together. I really think AK46 may benefit alot by dropping down to the third line and play with a few other young guns, maybe Eller/SK or Benny. Think about it, that line would most likely do well against a third pairing of defence, not to mention a third/fourth line of forwards. Just an idea though.

    Of course, we’d have to fill in the top 2 lines. Frolov had an off season, and would get less then 4mill a year, throw him with Cammy/Pleky and have Gio/Gomez (Benny, or Schultz etc)

  270. showey47 says:

    Tallon is apparently putting the #15 pick he acquired from boston up for bids.

  271. WarHero says:

    Would love to see the Kostitsyns go for the pick and prospect perhaps :) That would free up enough cap to sign Frolov :)


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  272. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Any idea what he is looking for?  A tempermental Belrussian and a man who can shoot the puck 400 mph, (despite a bit of trouble with the whole defence thing), perhaps?

  273. twocents says:

    Huh, wonder what they want.


  274. nightmare_49 says:

     s47 – Heres the latest Tallon had to say on the draft, he definitely will be a player in the next few days. …..  http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/24/1697160/florida-panthers-tallon-eyes-draft.html

  275. smiler2729 says:

    I really hope Dominic Moore returns

  276. WarHero says:

    He’s been known to have high contract demands, time will tell I guess.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  277. showey47 says:

    He had alot more leverage last summer and still didn’t get a contract till september (i think). Not much to bargain with this summer other then a good playoff. You could probably get him cheap as long as it is more then 1 year.

  278. WarHero says:

    Yeah, that’s right, thx for the reminder :) …. Just hope it’s not a lot, I think anything over 1.5 would be to much


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  279. nightmare_49 says:

       Latest from Pierre LeBrun


       • And finally, the agent for Chris Higgins, UFA July 1, said Thursday the Calgary Flames aren’t ruled out. “I’m meeting with [Flames GM] Darryl Sutter tomorrow,” Matt Keator told ESPN.com.

       • One rumor making the rounds Thursday was that Ribeiro could land in St. Louis, where former Stars GM Doug Armstrong, who acquired the center from Montreal while in Dallas, is now running the Blues. But when asked about acquiring Ribeiro, a front-office source in St. Louis said it was “unlikely.”

  280. Propwash says:



    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  281. G-Man says:

    The funniest part of all this is my cat did the same thing!

  282. StevieRay says:

    Well partner I figure the last thing we need is another Russian. I`d like to see us keep only Markov ..if he can stay healthy ..and that seems to be a big if ! Czecks & Russians on the same team is like mixing oil with water ..it don`t mix… Lets move up in the draft and get some hard nosed WHL kid ..like  Dylan MacILrath….

    We have 2 good lines now so offer them K bros and Mara and Maxwell…

  283. WarHero says:

    Getting Dylan is why I want the pick. I don’t know about you, but I’d be willing to reunite Cammy With Frolie, they made magic together, no reason it couldn’t happen again, look at Gomer & Gio, they did it :)



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  284. chilli says:

    I live in LA. We don’t want Frolov on the Habs. He makes Andrei look like Pavel Bure. Laziest guy on the team. 

  285. WarHero says:

    Perhaps it’s LA that’s the problem, lol :)


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  286. StevieRay says:

    I`m not a gomez fan…..I accept him only because he`s a HAB. His salary really restricts what we can do … I think Benny the Poo and Cammy with Pleks at center can be our best line . Gionta with Gomez and AK if he stays are our second.

  287. badbalance says:

    Frolov said he wants to play for the Habs, he played amazing when  he played with Cammy, perhaps he just had enough of LA.

  288. nightmare_49 says:

       We know that SK74, Laps, Pyatt and Price have been sent qualifying offers but 6 others also have been added. Desharnais, Desjardin, Trotter, Russell, Wyman and Mathieu Carle. 

  289. likehoy says:

    my concern is how many of these players are taking their qualifying offers??

    i can see pyatt, carle, desjardins, russel, wyman all being satisfied with their raise.

    SK may be looking for a little more but probably knows he has no value. laps and price will be looking for more and desharnais and trotter may believe they’re worth more after their terrific AHL seasons.

  290. SmartDog says:

    Sounds to me like Tallon wants to keep the pick (15th), not trade it.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  291. showey47 says:

    I’m just forwarding what was said on nhlxm204.

  292. nightmare_49 says:

       s47 – Darren Dreger had the same rumour.

  293. Rugger says:

    The qualifying offer is just the low end starting point for the negotiation.  Most if not all will sign for something higher and or longer.

  294. aemarchand11 says:

    Pouliot was injured correct? Maybe they are waiting for medical reports before they issue a qualifying offer. In his post playoff interview he mentioned that he was hurt, but was excited for next year. He planned to put on some muscle and be more prepared for a long season unlike he was this year.

    Or maybe they have an actual offer already in the works, and he will be resigned before June 28th. I dont expect him to get any more then 1Million. 2 Year deal 2 million??

  295. WarHero says:

    I’ll agree with that.



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  296. jbroderi says:

    there is a theory out there that might be at play here, and possibly with Price as well.  It obviously depends on how much trust the Habs brass has in these two players.  If PG extended the olive branch to both of these guys at say 2 million a year instead of one million, but tag it into a 3 year deal or something.  that way, you won’t have next summer with these two guys getting offers of 4 million each.  That is assuming that both will play well, but it might buy the team a couple of extra years to get other cap issues sorted out while these young guys are under contract.



    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  297. nightmare_49 says:

        I still have not changed my mind, PG should move down with our #27th pick (1st round).

        The only way i would use it is if there is a prospect that they are high on who was slated very high that has been ignored by the other teams.

       Two 2nd round picks would be a fair exchange seeing that this draft has fairly good quality and is surprisingly deep. Many teams have multiple choises in the 2nd round and they also have early choises in that round (Edm2, Bos2, Fla3, Clb2, NYI 2, Car3 etc.).

  298. Rugger says:

    Not a bad idea.

  299. NightRyder says:

    Gomez, SK and our first for Spezza and Ottawa’s second…

  300. likehoy says:

    i completely agree. i stated earlier that we currently have the 27th and 57th pick… if we could manage to get two picks in the late 30s and 40s, we would have a good shot at one of those two working out. we have a history of doing well in the second round, but also by the 2nd round, there’s not much hype between any of the players putting them above and beyond. it comes down to our scouting staff to have done their homework.

  301. GrimJim says:

    I don’t know/remember if anyone has posted this yet but Scott Cullen of TSN has his mock draft out.

    As Boone would say, who is Tyler Toffoli?


    If it has been posted, my apologies for duplicating

  302. badbalance says:

    Double Post

  303. jbroderi says:

    i’ll be honest..  i’d take that deal.  i like gomez and his work ethic, but 7 mill is better spent on spezza.  I think spezza needs a strong leadership group to stabilize him, which i think montreal has.  we would have ample penatly killers so he would just need to worry about pp and skating back in his end.  that being said, i don’t see murray making this trade!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  304. dh says:

    Gomez is part of that strong leadership group.   

  305. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Fine for us, but I think Ottawa would be nuts to take it.  Dump a bunch of their salary, but pick up even more salary from a guy who has consistently produced less than Spezza, a troublemaker in the dressing room and a pick that isn’t incredibly far removed from their second round pick anyway?  Within the same division too.  Just don’t see it happening.  Did Spezza and JM get along?  He doesn’t strike me as a JM type player

  306. jbroderi says:

    good point!  we still have gio, gill, moen and i’ll throw markov in as well.  It’ll never happen anyway, but the leadership qualities that gomez has it what makes me want to hang onto him, even though i know he makes about 3 mill to much


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  307. badbalance says:

    Trade Hamrlik for a bag of pucks, would that be doable? Trade away hamr and sign a cheaper and younger D that can do Hamr’s job…. And have cap space for Frolov, who has great chemistry with Cammy, and we have 2 lines that will be able to score..

  308. jbroderi says:

    if we haD HAMR FOR 2.5 MILL, YOU COULDN’T GET ME TO TRADE HIM, but at 5.5 million, as solid as he can be, it’s too much money for a number 4 guy.  if we could dump him, i’d be happy.


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  309. Rugger says:

    I gotta think it would be close to impossible to trade Hammer without getting big $ back.  Not many teams needing to get up to team minimum.  Only way i can see him moving is in a package where the extra players (i.e. the K’s) are the only place where we save cap.

  310. TripleX says:

    Who besides Hammer can fill in for Markov while he is on the DL?



    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  311. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    With Florida shopping that 15th pick, and Kaberle available, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a swap between the two.  Sedeinberg and Kaberle would be a pretty solid basis for defence…and Burke could really redeem himself by getting a first round pick.

  312. petefleet says:

    According to Boone “Carey Price lost many tough-luck games this season. Flukes, deflections, weird plays.”  How much do you increase the pay of a guy who only won 12 games and has, arguably, has an attitude problem? 

    Lapierre is in a similar situation after a less than stellar regular season.  The good news for him is his attitude seems good and will command only a modest increase, mostly because of the playoffs.

    Pyatt, just pay him.  Not a sole can keep up with him and when he gets his hands to do what he wants, he may be a great NHLer.

    As for SK, let him go for whatever they can get, it won’t be much.  His skill is lost, his attitude bad, and his worth is low.

    Go Habs Go

  313. TJV says:

    Hamrlik isn’t going anywhere.

  314. nightmare_49 says:

    GotF – You lost me, Seidenberg is signed by Boston.

  315. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    haha…right, I meant Wideman.  Possibly they are both German sounding names?  Anyway, Wideman and Kaberle….a good two to build a defensive core around.  Is what I meant.

  316. JIMVINNY says:

    The only person arguing that he has an attitude problem is you.  Most of the players (you know, the ones who opinions actually matter) spoke to how supportive he has been in the dressing room, even though he wasn’t playing.  Additionally, players with “attitude problems” don’t call out other players for having a questionable work ethic, which is exactly what Price did in regards to SK.  On top of that, he received the support of the rest of the dressing room. 


    So while the rest of your post does contain valid points, please stop making sh*t up in regards to things which you know nothing about.

  317. nightmare_49 says:

    G – Tallon has mentioned that he wanted to build his team from the back end out and he does need defencemen, time will tell.

  318. ShangaDoo says:

    Please excuse my lack of knowledge, but what exactly is a “qualifying offer” and what does it mean for the players?

  319. The Cat says:

    Price or any other goaltender, least of all a backup -whose work ethic was questioned just as much- shouldnt do that, or have to do that. I hope the habs dont screw around with the no captain idea again this year.

  320. ari says:

    any news of emelin?will he come to north america this year?

  321. petrov14 says:

    Habs picks in mock drafts


    MyNHLdraft.com: McFarland

    HFboards: Victor Ohman

    NHL.com McFarland, Johansen, Nick Bjugstad, Mark Pysyk, Granlund (for some reason we pick 16th)

    the hockey writers: Derek Forbort (we pick 14th)



    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  322. badbalance says:

    Price was actually supporting Halak, and admited it wasn’t his season. If anything Price has a very good attitude.

  323. SeriousFan09 says:

    The NHL.com guys didn’t think we’d beat the Penguins.

    Latest mock draft from NHL.com has us selecting either Stanislav Galiev, Alexander Petrovic, Stephen Johns


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  324. HabFab says:

    Still has a year left on his KHL contract so don’t expect him this year.

  325. badbalance says:

    SK was being a poor sport. Price practiced and worked even though he wasn’t playing. SK took it as a joke, someone had to call him out. Markov calling price out earlier in the season was unprofessional too?

    SK did something way more unprofessional and immature by whining half the season because he wasn’t playing and when he had a chance to get back with the lineup he didn’t practice to prove that he deserves to play with professionals.

  326. ari says:

    would be nice replacement of hammer,on time


  327. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Rumour: Price + Hamrlik to VAN for Luango.. hope not, but that is what the French dude that works with my brother told him he heard on a French Sports Talk Radio report.

  328. HabFab says:

    These players are RFA’s or players for which Montreal has exclusive rights yet but their original contract has expired. For Montreal to retain their rights, have to make them a “qualifying offer” which is a proposed contract within some perimeters of the CBA.

  329. TripleX says:

    How does a player lose skill?  Even a grizzled veteran will lose speed, endurance and reflexes but the skill remains.



    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  330. HabFab says:

    Price didn’t call him out to the press but at the training facility and overheard by a couple members of the press.

  331. ari says:

    it d=oesn’t surprise me.but thank god for cap hit.if they give kesler,burrows and take gomez would be nice.

  332. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I have heard many times watching sports: “The players skills have diminshed”

    I am sure most avid sports viewers would have heard this statement.

  333. smiler2729 says:

    Luongo sucks! And his contract’s stupider than Gomez’s!

  334. TripleX says:

    Markov through his long tenure with the team and his standing as a veteran and MVP has earned the right to criticize.  Price has not earned any such right and that is the profound difference.

    Some would conclude that Price was simply taking out his own lack of playing time on SK.  Regardless of what his motives were, it was not his place to call out a team mate.  That is the job of the coaching staff or a veteran like Markov.

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  335. smiler2729 says:

    And Halak had some of the best luck I’ve seen!

  336. smiler2729 says:

    Price did have some awful freakin’ luck last season… other than wins, he had good stats in SV % and GAA.

  337. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think even Eklund would circulate that one, pay it no mind.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  338. Mr_MacDougall says:

    LOLOLOL @ “Stupider”

  339. Max_a_million says:

    I know we all got the Habs ADD, but working on four contracts in one day is a pretty full plate.  I wouldn’t read too much into Pouliot not be offered a contract yet.

  340. TripleX says:

    The reason for trading Halak that was given was his cap hit.  So what possible reason would PG have to take on Luongo’s dumb contract.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  341. smiler2729 says:

    That’s the most goodest way I could think of saying it.

  342. ShangaDoo says:

    thank youu!

  343. petefleet says:

    First, the players will never say anything in public that would be bad for teammate’s image.  They pretty much have to tow the line with Price, he is after all Gainey’s boy.  Second, we’ll see what kind of attitude he has by Xmas this year. 

    Go Habs Go

  344. SeriousFan09 says:

    Not to mention working potential trades, this roster isn’t set and PG is likely looking at adding other pieces to the roster if he can pull off the right trade. That and last-minute draft preparation. Not all Front Offices have 6 Assistant GMs, one with Special Responibility for Magazine Subscriptions and Coffee Runs such as TOR.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  345. Ayan_SB says:

    Is anybody else a little worried to be in the same division as the Boston Bruins next season?

    Rask, Chara, Savard, Lucic, Krejchi, Wheeler, Horton and most likely Seguin.


  346. Mr_MacDougall says:


  347. Ian Cobb says:

    What are you smoking? Mac.  You think we need a Captain between the posts maybe??

    Fan Summit Updates

  348. TripleX says:

    Show me where this ever applied to someone his age.  Your quote is always made when referring to a player in the twilight of his career and is a generalized comment.  Skills encompassing mental strength, speed, reflexes…in other words the body is no longer capable of doing what the mind wants it to.  Hardly something that can apply to a young player in his prime.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  349. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I am not going to defend this trade as if it were my idea, because it is a rumour.

  350. smiler2729 says:

    Nope. The ‘ruins are the Habs’ bitch!

  351. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I would not make the trade, hell, I should have left it with the conversation with my brother.. it is just a rumour my bro’s coworker told him.. jesus I guess I should have laughed about it to myself.

  352. novahab says:

    That idoit Mcquire said the Gauthier is picking a Russian . Well if Gauthier does that and Mcfarlane goes afterwards he can start packing. We already have a Russian that won’t come over and this team need size and toughness. He made a good trade to bring in some size don’t go small and soft or worst pick a player thats never going to play for the team.

  353. smiler2729 says:

    That idiot McGuire… ’nuff said.

  354. novahab says:

    There is not one french Canadian kid in the top 30 so Gauther take a very close look at the french kids and pick the best one 27 because alot of these kids are being over looked.

  355. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I hopr Burke takes a liking to AK46 that way we can have… uh…. hmmm… Leafs players are terrible…. draft picks.

  356. SeriousFan09 says:

    Subtract the last two names and it’s the same roster we beat 5 of 6 times last year. Horton’s still enigmatic and Price has a hate-on for the Bruins since 2009 that had him 3-0 against them last year with a 1.00 GAA.

    Half of those guys have to bounce back from bad seasons as well and they all have to live with the 3-0 comeback humiliation.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  357. Ian Cobb says:

    My blog——-Summit update

  358. Mr_MacDougall says:

    what if there is a better kid from Red Deere?

  359. novahab says:

    When Sam was GM he was the king of GMs but now I have to disagree with one thing the quickness with for this team to lose would be the GM not listening to us fans.

  360. Ayan_SB says:

    Atlanta’s quietly becoming one of the hardest-hitting teams in the NHL with Kane, Bogosian, Cormier in juniors and now Byfuglien.

  361. smiler2729 says:

    Brian Burke’s building the Bruins through the draft… he’s the GM of two teams now.

  362. novahab says:

    Well I just this this team needs to get back a little of the Montreal Canadiens spirit that the home town kid can bring. The whole Q league is almost over looked you know there will be some surprises . It would be nice to have one instead of always missing them.

  363. Omit says:


    Could you please tell us what Price said and what intonation was used for you to make that statement?

  364. JIMVINNY says:

    you mean “toe the line”.  Secondly, we most certainly will.  Are you going to own up to your mistake if he proves you wrong?

  365. Ayan_SB says:

    If the Habs had better scouts at the Q, we would’ve had Giroux.

  366. novahab says:

    Burke thinks he has a shot at GM of the year and if the Briuns win the cup he’ll win it.

  367. Rugger says:

    If it is a team, itis his place as a team member.

  368. JIMVINNY says:

    Clearly you’ve never played a team sport.  It is most definitely a teammates responsibility to call out someone who isn’t putting the work in.

  369. alestar says:

    Please see: Cheechoo, Jonathan


    XXIV…and counting

  370. showey47 says:

    Burke should be named the bruins employee of the year. 

  371. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ah Evander Kane, delivered the best knockout in a hockey fight in years.

    Does it get better than one-punching Matt Cooke?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  372. showey47 says:

    They still own the rights to artyukhin also,if there is one guy i want PG to sign as a ufa its him.

  373. smiler2729 says:

    Bob Errey (PIT, BUF, SJ) was a hometown boy, Kevin Lowe was a hometown boy… Why do we “need” francos? Did the Habs not win Cups with guys like Dickie Moore, Dick Duff, John Ferguson, Ralph Backstrom, Gump Worsley, Ken Dryden, Steve Shutt, Larry Robinson?

    Get the BEST PLAYER available.

  374. TripleX says:

    What about him?  He has had injuries and suffers from lack of confidence not lack of skills.  He is not playing with Thorton anymore either, from the limited times I have seen him play the skill level is not diminished.

    Put an offensive player like Cheechoo ( like SK ) on a checking line and expect to him excel?



    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  375. SeriousFan09 says:

    What is Burke going to do next month that’s such a revelation? This is the weakest group of free agents on July 1st in a long time and Burke has no way to promise anything like playoffs or a Cup run, while he bids along with 29 other teams for a lot of over the hill or less talented players. He’s got one bargaining chip in Kaberle and Kaberle isn’t going to bring in a superstar to right his franchise.

    He’s got one Top-6 forward in Kessel and a prima donna Captain, why should we be scared of that?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  376. petefleet says:

    Thanks for the grammar lesson.  I will be the first to praise Price when the time comes, I’m just saying it aint coming.  Too much hype and not enough substance.  Do me a favour, explain to mean in real world terms why so many of you guys like this guy who at the NHL level hasn’t proved a thing.

    See you in December.

    Go Habs Go

  377. smiler2729 says:

    Nobody with any hockey talent want to play in Toronto.

  378. Bill J says:

    wrong post. lol

  379. nfldanchor says:

    Artyukhin would be a great addition to the habs. The hardest hitter in the Nhl.

  380. TripleX says:

    PG discusses the draft, free agency, managing the cap and Pouliot.




    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  381. Bill J says:

    Drafting the BEST player you feel available is ALWAYS the best tactic.  Location of Birth and Linguistic lifestyles should NEVER play a part in the pick, unless the player is in the KHL or may want to play in the KHL.


  382. Bobby Ward says:

    Hey TONY242 – The Getzlaf/Ryan skit was NOT on during the playoffs – It premiered last night at the NHL Awards in Vegas. I should know! I produced the awards and wrote the skit myself!

  383. alestar says:

    That just sounds like excuses…good players with high skill level do not suffer from “lack of confidence” for as long as Cheechoo has. He looks lost on the ice, that is a loss of skill…at the pro level, confidence is a skill.


    XXIV…and counting

  384. Bill J says:

    The player who broke Alex Tanguay.

  385. Caper says:

    Also you can subtract Savard as he is likely to be dealt.

  386. Habhopeful says:

    Tweet from Elliot Friedman:

    “Ducks GM Bob Murray said he made Bobby Ryan a five-year offer somewhere between $20-25 million. Obviously that didn’t get deal done.”

    I would love it if the Habs could get there hands on him

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  387. TripleX says:

    Kesel, Phaneuf, Beauchemin, Stalberg, Komisarek, Kaberle, Schenn all bums I guess.  Certainly would not want any of them on the Habs.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  388. Caper says:

    They are not even close to competing. Not much left. Kovalchuk? Not likely.

  389. Bill J says:

    WHAT !!! the almighty Tony242 is NOT always right ?

    I am flabbergasted!



  390. Caper says:

    Rumour? Who-Billy at the corner store?

  391. SeriousFan09 says:

    All those teams also had 1st-round picks or good prospects to make their deals, TOR has a weak depth chart and a shortage of decent picks to trade.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  392. TripleX says:


    He looks lost because he is in role that he has never played before.  He has always been a sniper not a checker so it is no wonder he looks lost.  Hmmmmm……kinda like SK and AK when they are put in situations they are unfamiliar with and which do not compliment their skill sets.

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  393. Caper says:

    You’re right. He rode Sk’s a– as well. He’s figuring it out.

  394. Caper says:

    It was excellent.

  395. TripleX says:

    Savard has an NTC that expires July 1, I don’t know if that means that day or at midnight.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  396. Bill J says:

    Sometimes when you post THIS sorta stuff Tony, you really paint yourself Blue & White dude.

  397. punkster says:

    Waddaminute, waddaminute,,,does this mean Boivin, Gainey, Gauthier and Martin aren’t too old? That the moon landing actually did happen? That JFK was shot by a lone gunman?


  398. andrewberkshire says:

    The skit was outstanding!

  399. punkster says:

    Great job Bobby.


  400. andrewberkshire says:

    Stahlberg is most definitely a bum. -13 last year and fewer points than Sergei Kostitsyn.

  401. SeriousFan09 says:

    I wouldn’t want any of them on the Habs, not the team being assembled that is a team. Kessel’s an ego case who doesn’t play when it counts, Phaneuf is a prima donna who only his C by default. Beauchemain, I’m tired of hometown boys honestly, too many come with a sense of entitlement and his best numbers all come from playing next to Niedermayer or Pronger. Stalberg had all of 14 points in 40 games last year and had trouble staying on the Leafs roster. Komisarek was one of several players who said all the right things than kissed Burke’s ass so he could have his Markov Inflation contract and a spot on the US Olympic team that he didn’t even get to have in the end, a complete waste of space the moment Lucic humbled him. Kaberle, Markov without the defensive ability and no real winning record to his name, Schenn is just a shutdown defender ATM, nothing truly noteworthy.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  402. Caper says:

    ? Good for Price. Consider the target and if anything Sk should man up and accept it. If anything it is leadership.

  403. SeriousFan09 says:

    Would need to dump Hamrlik and send strong assets Anaheim’s way, offer sheets are unfriendly in the NHL and don’t create goodwill between GMs for future trades.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  404. Caper says:

    Have you played team sports? it’s called self-policing. Some teams have mock courts with veterans acting as the judge. Mark Messier would have beaten the s–t out of SK.

  405. TripleX says:

    A 23 year old LW who is 6’3″ and 215 LBS.  I think PG would take him on.  Anyone who thinks Kaberle, Phaneuf, Beauchemin, Komisarek and Schenn would not make the Habs is really out to lunch.

    You would keep Hammer, Gill, MAB, Spacek and O’Byrne over them?  Really?


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  406. HardHabits says:

    I loved it. My fave was the rhymes with duck part. When Getzlaf misses and goes “aw ….” cut scene, that was too hilarious. Good job getting away with that one.

  407. smiler2729 says:

    Watching the Red Sox (4-2 over COL in the 4th)… listening to “Sister Ray” by The Velvet Underground on the laptop (17 minute mind fudge)… eating ice cream… reading all this crap about Bruins, Burke and the Laffs…

    There’s no better way to spend a Thursday evening recovering from pneumonia.

  408. Omit says:

    Well, since you didn’t describe the intonation of Price’s remarks, then I’ll guess you weren’t there.  Therefore, I don’t really understand how anyone could make a judgement on anybody based on what you just said. 


  409. Mothstoflame says:

    lol stupider is actually a word, beleive it or not,  as long as you do no use it in a literary form.  you can say it not write, same with dumber  ^^

  410. Adam says:

    I gotta disagree with you. They won’t saying anything on the record, but players dump on each other off the record all the time. Certain players were credited as “inside sources” throughout the year, crapping all over SK. It’s pretty common in PR to go off the record when you don’t have anything nice to say.

    And yes, I do know somebody in the Canadiens organization, and I do know which players called SK out, but like Eklund, I never reveal my sources. But if he’s reading this, hey Dan.

  411. Thomas says:

    Has anyone heard any news about Avitsin?  I thought he was coming over to North America, but haven’t really heard anything…He’s supposed to be pretty quick, with a solid shot no?

  412. Puck Bard says:

    The world is not flat. Great job Bobby.

  413. SeriousFan09 says:

    Young, 6’3″ Left winger or not, doesn’t mean he’ll be something. We are speaking of the same Mike Komisarek who we all saw since he was turned into a ghost of himself following the Lucic beatdodwn? Sorry but right now that guy’s contract is terrible and I am glad he rebuffed Gainey, totally fallen apart as a player.

    I’d take Gill on over several of those guys, any of those names on the TOR roster ever spent 14 games shutting down the two best players in the world? Gill is a playoff performer and Spacek did very solid work as well. Kaberle’s record in big-time games is hardly impressive either and what has Schenn proven at all? He’s Mike Komisarek if he had could throw a left hook. All of those guys are much more highly paid than everyone you mentioned save Hamrlik and Spacek, not a good argument. Markov is superior to anyone on Toronto’s blueline and Subban could outclass them all in a couple years.

    Hamrlik-Spacek did a much better job stabilizing the Habs blue line to start the season than that super-star group of Kaberle, Beauchemain, Komiwreck and Schenn did for TOR as I recall as well.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  414. SeriousFan09 says:

    Latest chatter had him signing with another KHL team after Moscow Dynamo folded, doesn’t look like he’ll be coming over this year if that’s the case.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  415. showey47 says:

    I would stop as soon as he stops turning the bruins into stanley cup contenders by giving them franchise players this year (and probably next year).

  416. showey47 says:

    The one thing that bothered me about komi is that gainey should have traded his rights before last years draft. You could see it a mile away he wasn’t going to re-sign here. What really made me laugh last season was when sportsnet referred to him an an “all star” defenceman. After sportsnet (and every other toronto based sports station) mocked montreal fans for manipulating the all star voting system which got him to the game in the first place.

  417. wotever says:

    I do it, you do it, we all do it.  Typos, the not-so-silent killer to an argument.  I’m not so big a fan of racism either, whether or not it’s Don Cherry approved.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  418. MD says:

    Btw, Kovalchuk’s agent is saying there only one KHL club submitted an offer for Ilya. As for NHL teams they want to consider 4 year deal to make sure that Kovalchuk can play in russian winter olympics.

  419. HabFanSince72 says:

    I knew it.


    Leaf troll.

  420. HabFanSince72 says:

    If he likes the Olympics so much why didn’t he try harder in Vancouver?


  421. kordic says:

    I can’t believe they gave an offer to sk and not to pouliout…..yet. I guess the arrogance/stupidity of Bob Gainey has rubbed off on Pierre.

    In the draft tomorrow, the habs have to try and get BIGGER. In my opinion the habs are seriously lacking on the d side of things, although the o side looks pretty awful too so I guess they have to flip a coin again.




    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  422. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ba da Bum… KSSSHH.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  423. Omit says:

    Intonation is everything during a conversation, especially when you’re going to criticize someone for what he said.  Who says he sounded authoritative?  Were you there?

    And like some have said here, team mates having heated discussions during the course of a long year is quite normal.  But at least you got to put down Price.

  424. thorandresson says:

    hmmm, if the Habs end up trading SK (highly likely), and the qualifying offer was just a procedure to get that done, you’re going to sound like a big idiot, wait a minute you already do.  Way to jump to conclusions bozo.

  425. Caper says:

    Easy big boy. Self-policing amongst the players works best. Players tune out coaches. Price is showing leadership and I see this as a positive thing. He was very supportive of Halak in the playoffs as well. We’re tlaking about Sergei ((*&&*^&&&& K not Gomez or cammy. Who gives a rat a–. Again-SK74 the guy all players with the exception of AK46 told their coach that they didn’t want him back on the ice during the playoffs. I bet you price got pats on the back for that one.

  426. Omit says:

    Speaking of arrogance and stupidity, you might try to read Gauthier’s explanation beforehand.

  427. Caper says:

    Military? NHL hockey and the military are comparable. You learn something new everyday.

  428. kordic says:

    Trade sk? for what? Take the rose colored glasses off, you can’t get anything for sk or pouliot so stop dreaming. I think they should give pouliot a shot at least, but I’m not stupid, I’m leaning towards the bum side.




    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  429. alestar says:

    Meh!  At the NHL level, players should be able to use thier skill to play whatever role is required…


    XXIV…and counting

  430. wotever says:

    Hamrlik: 5.5M 2010/11

    Price: 2.2M with bonuses 2009/10, ???M 2010/11

    Luongo: 10M!!!!!!!!  2010/11, 6.7M 2011/12-4

    Really.  6.7M is at least fathomable.  10M means we LOSE a couple of players.   You could get Vincent for that dough.  

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  431. TripleX says:

    Komi has had that nagging shoulder injury and I hold judgement until he plays a season healthy.  Komi and Markov together was great and would still be great.  Why is his contract terrible?  Hammer’s contract is terrible at his age.

    Gill was a revelation in the playoffs but he can’t play that way over 82 games.  You can’t carry a regular season liability hoping he comes through IF you make the playoffs.

    Spacek is on the downside of his career anyone with eyes can see that.  All the players I mentioned from Toronto have youth on their side of the ledger.  Any logical GM would pick youth when there is no HUGE discrepancy in talent.

    What has Schenn proven?  Not a great deal, but who has at his age? He is highly regarded by most hockey people as someone with a good upside.

    Not a good argument?  They are more highly paid because they are demonstrably superior in talent.  If you are more talented then it is logical to command a higher salary.  No?

    Markov and Suban?  Did I mention those two players or Georges?


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  432. Habs Proud says:

    How is Dominic Moore worth a second rounder at the deadline, comes in and does what I thought was a decent job, no he is not a superstar but plays with a passion and fit in very well, and now doesn’t even rate an offer

  433. Jonnyboy says:

    hahaha they had the worst this year!!!!! what a change that would be!

  434. habsfansince91 says:

    maybe he’s asking for too much money, just like when he was playing with the leafs. Last i remember his wage demands were to high and the leafs ended up trading him.

  435. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Just some thoughts

    I sure hope they sign MAB. I think h e is the only player on the team capable of using a mop to clean the liquids that get spilled at home games.

    Carey Price…if his qualifying offer was 1 million, then we will have a much easier time absorbing his contract and telling him to play street hockey with BGL

    SK, if they can get his tourettes syndrome under control, we have a chance of making him a decent 20 goal scorer

    Pouliot, I wonder if we can trade him for another useless first round pick from prior years

    Paul Mara…will be signed and will immediately get injured limiting his games played to 4 or 5

  436. TripleX says:

    If you are going to take the time to reply at least put some thought into it.  The boring and repetitive TROLL comment is a sad reflection on your level of maturity and intellect.

    If you disagree with my viewpoint either remain mute or refrain from wasting bandwidth and HIO space.


    Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  437. kordic says:

    I agree. They give away picks.



    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  438. kordic says:

    At least you got the Mab part right.




    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  439. thorandresson says:

    From what I’ve heard they haven’t even started negotiating with him.


    By the way, there’s still a week to sign him (that’s if he’s signed on July 1st which is very unlikely), and right now he’s not a priority.  Once they get everything else settled and if there’s money left you’ll probably see some action on that regard.

  440. Habs Proud says:

    You could be very right, if indeed he is looking for big bucks then he probably needs to walk, just seems a waste to give up a pick especially he he ends up somewhere else for a sensible number

  441. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    Moore will be UFA on July 1. Habs had to get offers to RFAs by this Monday, at the latest. Still plenty of time to talk contract with him.

    The Other Wing

  442. FlyFishing says:

    Moore is a great player to have on the team. I loved him when he played in Toronto. You can’t beat his work ethic.


    All About Fly Fishing

  443. RJB says:

    When SK is traded, we will be here waiting for you to admit you were wrong

  444. SeriousFan09 says:

    Defensive defencemen who score 10 points a year do not warrant getting paid 450k per point IMO, that’s Komisarek’s cost right now and honestly, who hasn’t looked good next to Andrei Markov? He raises everyone who plays next to him. O’Byrne looked like an easy Komi replacement next to Markov.

    Gill is 3rd-pair, but he gives leadership all year round and comes through when it really counts, the post-season. Gill shouldn’t be a concern during the regular season as to what he’s doing with 3rd-pair minutes and if your 3rd-liners are expensive, it costs you at your forward positions. Gill’s a decent cap hit and comes through when it counts, less D injuries and he wouldn’t have had to log extra minutes that wore him down.  Spacek is on the downside, but he also played nearly the full year on his off side, RD as opposed to LD and he did pretty well with it I think and besides, he’s a placeholder as a new group of defencemen are drafted and brought in to replace him, his salary goes off the cap just as Subban will be looking at his first contract increase. Schenn has a good upside they say, but it’s a Regehr, Volchenkov-type upside, not a Subban-type and I’m tired of Leafs fans slobbering over a guy who might get 25 points for a single-season best in his career. 

    I don’t see why we have to sweat or envy a D that failed to do anything to prevent the Leafs from sinking to the bottom of the league last year and Phaneuf’s arrival aside, the Loafs always start winning whenever they’re out of the playoffs already so his arrival I don’t see as really being a revelation. I’ll wait to see how the D core looks at the start of training camp for MTL but that group isn’t keeping me up at night. Just because they’re younger, doesn’t mean they’re worth a damn when it counts. Take Gill and Gorges killing a penalty over anyone TOR has. Hamrlik-Spacek are still a solid team when not overplayed and Markov, Subban provide puck-moving talent Toronto can’t match.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  445. smiler2729 says:

    Apparently Moore or his agent have ridiculous contract demands that end up with Dom waiting until camp to get signed by someone… you’d think they have learned by now.

  446. Caper says:

    So should I draw conclusions from your earlier comments -i.e. caps to make your point.

  447. showey47 says:

    Could be why pouliot hasn’t recieved a QO yet? I have no doubt PG is trying to shop hamrlik but will probably have to move a young and cheap asset along with him.

  448. SmartDog says:

    It’s not worth losing Hamrlik’s contract if we have to give up Pouliot.  Pouliot’s young and cheap and his potential is high.  IT would be a mistake to treat him like a throw-in.  Give up a smaller farmhand who has a good shot on a team that doesn’t have a size problem. 


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  449. secretdragonfly says:

    Hey showey, what do you think about Foligno being named as assistant coach for Anaheim?

  450. showey47 says:

    I felt something was up when mike gave up his g.m./coach position with the wolves without giving any real reason. It kind of makes sense though since he and randy carlyle are very good friends.

  451. showey47 says:

    Very true,but i guess it would depend on what the return would be for either scenerio.

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