Prust set to return to Habs’ lineup

The Canadiens originally had a full practice scheduled for 11 a.m. on Wednesday, but it turned into a team meeting followed by an optional practice at 11:30 a.m. after Tuesday’s 2-1 shootout loss to the Tampa Bay Lightning at the Bell Centre.

The only players who took to the ice were Peter Budaj, David Desharnais, Brandon Prust, George Parros, Alexei Emelin, Travis Moen, Douglas Murray, Daniel Briere, Michael Bournival and Ryan White.

There was good news concerning Prust, who has been sidelined since mid-October with a shoulder injury. He will return to the lineup for at least one of the games this weekend as the Canadiens visit the Columbus Blue Jackets on Friday (7 p.m., RDS, TSN Radio 690) and then play host to the New York Rangers Saturday night at the Bell Centre.

Before the practice, the Canadiens announced that Greg Pateryn and Gabriel Dumont had been returned to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs.

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

Practice Notebook, Canadiens.com

Post-practice locker-room video, Canadiens.com

Price on short end of goaltending duel, by Pat Hickey

Lack of compete level cost Canadiens, by Pat Hickey

Just another day at the office for Price, by Dave Stubbs

Habs vs. Lightning photo gallery, montrealgazette.com

Price standing tall, Canadiens.com

Subban, Canadiens begin contract talks, NHL.com

Sabres hire LaFontaine, Nolan in front-office shakeup, NHL.com

Stamkos has surgery, expected to fully recover, Tampa Bay Times

Peg inventor: net dislodged propery in Stamkos crash, Tampa Bay Times

207 Comments

  1. habfaninottawa says:

    During, not dying. Pesky iApp with not edit function

  2. habfaninottawa says:

    Why knock Briere? He’s got way better numbers than DD so far in half as many games. As well, I don’t think Bergevin picked up Briere for the regular season. He is a proven playoff performer. If he does “okay” dying the season but picks it up come playoff time I’m fine with that. (Barring the Habs make the playoffs)

  3. Subban in Sochi says:

    After Lars Eller’s pointed comments about the Oilers seemed to directly lead to him suffering a 10+ game goal-less drought I am pleased to see that Brandon Prust and Daniel Brière are (still) willing to state opinions that clearly nail down their “issues.”

    Prust appears to have a history with the Canadiens of coming back too early from injury. Both he and his Hell-bent-for-leather approach “suffer” when he is less than “100%,” if there is such a thing as 100% for a hard-nosed NHL player.

    As for Daniel Brière, I was glad to see him use the word that best describes his appearance and attitude in a Canadiens’ jersey: “grim.” I was glad to watch a recent episode of “24CH” in which Brière is actually seen smiling. Contrast that to (the few available) photos where Brière is involved in a goal “celebration.” He even looks miserable when he’s picking up a point and a “+”!! He clearly is overwhelmed by the media crush in Montreal. He has dragged fan expectations down so low that at least that “pressure” can no longer be a “distraction” for him.

    This weekend is a Tale of Two Cities. A boring road game with the Blue Jackets and a hopeful game at the Bell vs. the Rangers.

    I hope for a strong road effort in Columbus that builds momentum for Saturday’s return of Prust and Emelin. Let’s hope they are both truly 100% ready physically and “only” have to concern themselves with adjusting to the pace of the NHL game.

    As happened last season for the first 40 games, the League will be caught “off guard” by the banging style of Prust and Alexei Emelin. No one is familiar with the concept of the Habs being a tough team; perhaps to include the Canadiens themselves.

    As the Habs reintegrate all the formerly injured players we are likely to “discover” that MB’s summer signings of Brière, Murray, and Parros were ill-advised. They have all “lost a step” and just don’t seem to fit where the Canadiens “are”-let alone where they are “going”-with a young, fast, quick team with a core “attack” concept.

    “Cannonading drive!!”

  4. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Go to Football (European) scoring: 3 points for a win. 1 point to each team for a draw. 0 points for a loss. No overtime, except in the playoffs. No shoot out.

  5. DickandDanny says:

    Prust in, Pacioretty out. Great news.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  6. Bill says:

    MacDougall: the only problem with your lines is that Briere totally sucks. Not your fault, admittedly.

  7. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I’m bored so I’ll take a shot at line juggling…

    Patch-Plek-Gallagher
    Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
    Prust-Briere-Bourque
    Bourn-White-Moen

    PK-Markov
    Gorges-Emelin
    Diaz-Murray/Tinordi/Boullion

  8. Bill says:

    MacDougall: Agree, bring back the tie.

  9. SteverenO says:

    I saw some comments below about shootouts and as much I find shootouts entertaining, the way the points are distributed now, in my opinion, make a mockery of the league.

    The idea of overtime is not just to declare a winner, but also a loser.
    Giving the losing team a point makes the overtime nothing more than a reward for the teams that tied. They both tied the game so they each get a point, and they both deserve the one point. No one “earned” two points by winning, and no one”earned” zero points by losing.

    What did they (the two teams that tied) do to deserve a chance at an additional point?

    Team A won their game, they “earned” two points and Team “B” lost their game and “earned ” zero points.

    Team C & D tied and each earned and received one point.

    Why are C & D deserving an opportunity to get another point? Why is that fair to Teams A and B? Aren’t they entitled to play for an extra point as well?

    If there’s going to be shootouts, they MUST be held after every game, win, or tie. That would be both fair, and entertaining.

    The idea of giving the fans a little bit “extra” for their hard earned dollar,(or hundred as the case may be) is a good one.

    While it would be “fair” and make the standings “legitimate”, having a shootout after every game, regardless of outcome, and counting those “gimmick” points towards the actual standings would not be palatable for most hockey , and/or sports, “purists”.

    What if each team got 5 shots, and the TOTAL goals scored after the season is over would be used ONLY as a tiebreaker if two teams are tied in the standings?. ( i would add one wrinkle)…The players who are on the ice at the end of the game MUST be the ones to shoot.

    Players would be free to experiment with their moves and try to entertain the fans – It may be the best way to get a lot of fans to stay in their seats till the end of the game-

    A smart corporate sponsor would donate $100 for every goal scored,or every save made, to some local charity. The actual game used pucks could be signed by the goalie and the shooter and auctioned off for yet another fundraiser, or perhaps given to the “fan of the game”.

    I think it would be a everybody wins solution and far better than what we have now.

    Regards,

    Steve O.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I’ll make it simple.

      A tie after 10 minutes of 4 on 4 remains a tie. No participation points, no shootout.

    • The Chicoutimi Cucumber says:

      The SO is ridiculous, but so are most of the proposals to replace it. We don’t need more idiotic novelties. All we need to do is make it so that a tie counts for ZERO points. The result will be incredibly exciting offensive hockey as teams deadlocked in the 3rd period open it up in a desperate effort to break the tie. It’s a no-brainer…which is why the NHL won’t do it.

  10. HabFab says:

    MONTREAL CANADIENS: Assigned forward Gabriel Dumont and defenseman Greg Pateryn to Hamilton (AHL). http://j.mp/17q4l10

  11. galchenyuk27 says:

    Here is the lines that I think mt should try out when everyone is healthy hopefully as soon as this weekend.
    Prust, Gally, Gallagher
    Bournival, plekanec, patches
    Moen, Eller, Gio
    Briere, White, Bourque

    Subban, Gorges
    Markov, Emellin
    Murray, Diaz

    this will give every line a good scoring basis and someone whos tough and can protect there line mates every shift on both offense and defense. Yes we still have small players but with players like prust and moen protecting them. Other teams will think twic about being goons.

  12. Cal says:

    Definitely like the poll results on The Gimmick. So far, anyway.

  13. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Irish media are only slightly less introspective than Canadian. So for the Rob Ford story to intrude on Ireland’s obsessive introspection says something about how big a joke it is. Amazing that neither Council nor Province has any kind of “conduct unbecoming” clause that might do the trick. Meanwhile here — although it’s very much the Irish kettle calling the Canadian pot black — there are two jokes making people laugh: the mayor himself, and the inability to get rid of someone whose multiple indiscretions are so spectacularly and publicly recorded.

    The Irish national broadcaster (RTÉ):

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1113/486495-rob-ford-toronto-mayor/

    Next door, the BBC website has a handy library of Ford videos. If I were from Toronto I would be mortified.

    • Cal says:

      The National Embarrassment will be arrested sometime. Hopefully, it’ll be a Christmas present for Torontonians. Then, his crackship will finally disappear.

    • johnnylarue says:

      My Torontonian buddies were shocked and embarrassed when the hordes of misguided suburbanites elected Ford in the first place. His record of conduct as a councilor was, shall we say, less than stellar to begin with…

      But yes, it’s morbidly fascinating to witness the global spectacle he has become.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        [Thomas le Fan and I have just been modded. I think he connected govts with Ford coverage, and I underlined the media's priority which is making dough. ???]

        Edit: Actually, no. We’ve just been transplanted to the bottom of the page. You too Johnny… Oh well, new thread.]

        • HabFab says:

          All posts after the one MODDED will drop to the bottom of the page FYI.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Thanks HF. Does that mean T le F was modded? Or was I? And any guesses as to what for?
            Cheers

            [Edit: Sorry! Homer Moment! Tom's is gone, so he incurred the modding. (But for what, I wonder).]

          • HabFab says:

            Don’t know why he was modded, as I only saw his post briefly while I skimmed thru checking to see if my links above were already posted.

    • johnnylarue says:

      In defense of hypocrites at large, Ford is a train wreck of epic proportions. It’s not often a real life Boss Hogg is elected mayor of the 4th largest city in North America.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      I agree, Thomas, that governments everywhere will be extremely grateful for any brek in scrutiny — however brief — that Ford creates for them. On the other hand I don’t believe it’s something governments have any say in. It’s actually worse: since media are all about making money, the scary thing here is that the risible Ford saga is currently making more money for media than most other stories!

    • Cal says:

      Any video of Layton or Obama drunk out their minds smoking crack?
      The fact he doesn’t resign is what is keeping the story alive.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Ford was voted in to do one thing; reduce the current deficit by reigning in public spending. To my limited knowledge he’s done both.

      …he’s still better than Miller.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Your post kinda startled me into realizing how improper it is that there is no recourse available for dismissing this Ford. If an elementary school teacher had acted this way or a bus driver, he /she would be GONE.

  14. Hobie Hansen says:

    The Habs used both their compliance buyouts already and have none remaining to buyout Desharnais, Briere or anyone.

    Thank god Prust is almost back. The team looked completely flat last night and in several other games since his absence. He’s huge for our passive group of forwards. Emelin’s return will be huge too.

  15. Habsssssssswin says:

    At leat M.B. adressed the size issue this season ….

    http://twitpic.com/2qovm9/full

    Danny DeVito or Briere ???

  16. Seps says:

    Anyone know what the chances are that we resign Gionta? Because if he gets resigned I’m going to lose my mind.

  17. Maritime Ronn says:

    Re Briere and a possible buyout

    I’ll trust Cap Geek-The NHL-The CBA….
    **Take note of the 2nd paragraph

    What’s a 35-plus contract Players who sign multi-year contracts when they are age 35 or older (calculated on June 30 of the season the contract begins) count toward the cap under all circumstances, regardless of where (or if) the player is playing. The only cap relief is $100,000 from the player’s cap hit if he is assigned to the minors after the first year of the contract or in the event of a buyout.

    **The league confirmed to CapGeek.com in March 2013 that the over-35 rule “doesn’t apply either in the case of regular buyouts or in the case of compliance buyouts,” meaning teams can use buyouts to reduce or eliminate the cap hit. Prior to the league’s clarification, CapGeek.com had operated with inaccurate information in estimating its cap totals.

    CBA reference: Section 50.5 (d-i-B-5) (P. 203)

    http://www.capgeek.com/faq/what-s-a-35-plus-contract

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      The two paragraphs directly contradict each other.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Not really

        One is for a player that wants to play gets sent down or retires
        The other is actually buying them out
        If it is not a compliance buyout, there will still be a penalty Cap Hit depending on the length of the contract and the Cap hit itself

  18. krob1000 says:

    Can someone clarify the rule re Briere…my understanding was he could be bouht out or sent down and there is little cap hit…I can’t find this anywhere though. I was sure someone posted it on here though …that because he was a compliane buyout his contract did nto count as 35 plus or at least ahd different cap rules. Is thi stru e or not…I thought it was as I read it on here but I can’t find that rule anywhere.

    • commandant says:

      No, none of what you are saying is true.

      1) If he’s sent down we clear 100k off the cap… thats it. 35+

      2) we can’t buy him out as he’s 35+.

      3) we couldn’t use a compliance buyout because those are both used, and we can’t use one on a guy signed after the lockout anyway.

      ———-

      Also why? Briere played decent for a guy in his first game back from concussion last night. Got better as the game went on.

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      • krob1000 says:

        That was what I thought until about 2 weeks ago there was discussion here and people were saying he could be sent down or bought out and there would be minimal cap hit because he was signed after having been a compliance buyout. I know the Habs have none but the way it was on here was beacuse he was signed as a former compliance buyout diff’t ruless applied. Must have been crap and I believed it.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Interesting Ben, I thought someone put a link in here from the new CBA showing that the buyout of Briere due to his previous buyout had different extenuating circumstances around it, thus making it much cheaper.

        As for why people are asking, just wanting to know all options. I have some hope he may yet break out, but always nice to know what the options are.

    • Phil C says:

      Capgeek shows a cap hit of $1.33M/year spread out over two years if they buy him out next summer.

  19. A. Berke says:

    This was in today’s The Province (BC)

    PK Subban

    Cheers

    Ali B.

  20. A. Berke says:

    edited

    Cheers,

    Ali B.

  21. habsfanincalgary says:

    hi fellow hab fans,

    this is my first post in some time, but wanted to hear some of your feedback after watching a disappointing performance by everyone but the goalie.

    i question if this is a playoff team. i feel it lacks consistency, and when put to a true test (COL, SJ, TB), it falls short.

    take away PK and markov, i feel this is a very average defense.

    the EGG line looks promising for several years; pleks is a great two way forward, but beyond that, the team has a number of inconsistent efforts (gio, bourque, max p, etc.).

    i used to criticize martin’s style of coaching and would question if there would ever be another hab in the top 10 scoring. therrien brought a little more office to the game. but the team stuggles in OT and shootouts.

    good cup teams have two and possibly three strong lines up front; this year’s team does not. and IMHO, the briere signing doesn’t add much.

    i’m hoping max p is going through a rough patch; the team needs him to find the net again. DD may be the next person that should be bought out. moen is ineffective and i question why white plays the SH game.

    it will be nice to have prust and emelin back in the lineup. i’ve always maintained that emelin’s presence is a welcome one (just look when he went down and what happened to price’s game last year).

    one more question i ask: what is the team’s identity? price and PK? in years past, it was “roy’s team” or “koivu’s and kovalev’s team”…just don’t know whose team this is this (or last year)…

    on a final note, i realize that cole’s departure was for team payroll and potentially he not ‘getting’ therrien’s system. ryder has consistently put the puck in the net (unless if carbonneau is the coach), and is doing that in a NJD uniform this year. so basically, cole was moved, ryder was a rental and the money that was saved in order to assist with purchasing the briere contract? not sure i’m a big fan of that move.

    the goal tending situation is above average as is half the defense; the team needs to score more and learn to find a way to light up the lamp in the shootouts, otherwise, i’ll find myself using a leaf fan’s lines for years: there’s always next year!

    love to hear your comments!

    • krob1000 says:

      Cole is team minus 11…next closest forward is minus 5. He as one goal and 4 asssits. patches still put his numbers up last year without Cole. NOw Patches was out and DD has no numbers. Conclusion …Patches was the reason that line succeeded and Dd is a playmaker who does have chemistry with DD….needs two snierpsthough to be successful. Fortunately Montreal has that….they just have an odd way of distributing their personnell IMO.

      Consider this…how many goals would Milan Lucic get playing with Travis Moen and Ryan White? IMO Brandon Prust would score 15 playing with Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand. He got 30 points in NEw York and 13 goals. I think he should be palying with two guys he can protect and do the dirty work for.

    • commandant says:

      “take away PK and Markov and this is a very average defence”

      Um… what team in the NHL has more than an “average defence” if you take away their two best.

      Take away Keith and Seabrook and Chicago’s defence is very average too.

      Go Habs Go!
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  22. HabinBurlington says:

    According to this Sabres Blogger, the person Lafontaine covets the most for GM of the Sabres is Rick Dudley….
    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTHS-CORNER/LaFontaines-GM-Search-Began-This-Morning/6/55653

  23. CHicoHab says:

    The win needs to be 3 points. The tie stays for each 1 point. The overtime goes 4 on 4 for3 minutes. Then at 3 on 3 for 2 minutes. No shoot out. Shoot out is 1 on 1. No team effort involved.

    • Mustang says:

      I have been saying for some time that a win is either worth 2 points or it is worth 3 points. This BS of a win in regular time being worth 2 points but a win in overtime being worth 2 points + 1 point for the loser is absolutely stupid. I believe that overtime should continue until there is a winner but due to TV time constraints this cannot work like it does in the playoff. Therefore they should play 4 on 4 for 5 minutes followed by 3 on 3 until one team scores which in most cases will not take very long. No shoot out, please.

      • Cal says:

        I don’t think any of the sports channels care how long the game goes. Content is content. OT should be ten minutes of 5 on 5. A tie game should be declared after that. SO is a cheap gimmick.
        I remember way back when when they used to do a between periods feature on HNIC called “Showdown.” That was fun and it raised money for charity. That’s where the SO belongs. There, and the dust bin of history.

  24. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    Max misses the net. Gio disgraces the other team by trying to scuff the logo on their goalies chest. Gorges tries for a deflection off the boards to the left of the net,or has double vision.
    Such creativity.

  25. Reflektor says:

    Wild start their backup, again, versus the Leafs. Horseshoe still firmly implanted.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Todd Christensen passes away at age 57. Seems like not long ago watching him play. What a Tight End he was for the Raiders.

    Sad, that is far to young.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9971641/todd-christensen-formerly-raiders-dies-57

    • Luke says:

      NFL players and Pro wrestlers… Passing away way too young.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Burly, Luke.
      I find myself having difficulty watching football. Love it, played all through high school. Over the summer I read a lot about brain injury in both football and hockey. Hockey could still save itself, if the NHL were willing, but football? I don’t know.
      (I’m a Steelers fan; apparently this is a good year to stop watching…)

  27. krob1000 says:

    Montreals version of stacking a line consists or loading their top six consists of a kid line and PLeks-0Gio-PAtches. This si quite obvisouly not up to snuff with other elite top lines or even top sixes around the league. However, if and when the lineup is balanced there is no other team IMO that has a better top 12 oeven 13 forwards than Montreal.

    We come on here and complain about Parros and playing weak players at weak times,etc but at the same time the HAbs are any easy matchup as they play their top 2 d together and their top offensive players have 3 of 5 and all kids playing together. THe other two are isolated in Pleks and Patches.

    The solution is quite obvious IMO…spread the scoers out as Montreal could still dress 4 lines who are all both offensively inclined, steady and trustworthy defesnively and guys could be doubled to keep mintues oup for some and special teams could be anotherarea to ensure icetime allotment where it should be.

    Also and more importantly I think they HAVE to split PK and Markov. Only on eof them can have the puck at once…Markov has a history of making hwoever he plays with better…well he can’t do much to improve PK at hsi point and I thin his influence has shown since last year in PK but time to let PK carry a pairing and have Markov carry one as well.

    If you split them it is like adding a bit of offense to every forward on each line they play with.
    Montreal’s strength lies in its depth when healthy and this should lead to favourable matchups and a team that is very difficult to line up against as they should have 4 lines threatening to score or at least have the puck in the oppositions end. There are several ways to do this and it is very difficult to come up with some combo s that would not work actually. There is no order here

    Go off the board -Bournival-Pleks-Gallagher, Chucky-Eller-Prust
    PAcioretty-DD-Gio, –Moen/White-Briere-Bourque

    Which line is weak? Which line is weak and could not play against anyone with Pk and Gorges or Markov-Emelin playing with them?Worst case sceanrio is one of these lines with Diaz/Murray or Bouillon….there is balance and which one of those lines could not score agaisnt a typical 3rd or een 4th line in todays nhl?
    Lie I said there is no order and this can be moved around a ton…just the idea of 4 lines and splitting Markov/Subban and splitting the kid line. They are 3 of the 4 spunkiest right now with Bournival….all are pretty cerebral and could breathe life into other lines.

    Pleks needs someone other than Gio IMO….Pleks is also a good scorer himself but Gio is a shooting machine and would be better served with Patches and Dd IMO.Dd is a playmaker and won’t shoot so give himn two snipers and let them all do their thing.

    The other beenfit to this is you jsut might be surprised to see Prust, MOen, White,etc all chipping in more offesne than we think they have. Prust and Moen have proven before they can put a few goals in if under the right circumstances, the grit they add and ability to battle down low opens space adn time for the gusy they are with as well as having their backs while they are on the ice.

    • Say Ash says:

      You want DD and Gionta together?

      • Strummer says:

        ^

        ______________________________________________________
        “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • krob1000 says:

        I don’t think having Gio and Dd together is actually as bad as people think at first glance. Gio has been olaying with two under 6 ft guys all year and is no slouch in the corners or dirty areas. Dd and Pleks are not much diff’t in that respect adn in fact I would give the grit edge to Gio.. It would force Dd’s hand to become engaged away from the puck. it would give him two snipers (which is how he was successful before). I know we all note that Cole and Patches were big…but most importantly I think they were both two guys who have speed, are shot first guys and as long as one guy is a net crasher (Gio is) I think the rest is similar to Cole/Patchesline. I attribute more of that success to the snipers and playmaker than the two big guys factor as Patches has never played big. Cole went to the net…..Gio can do that.

        Anyways these are about the 8th diff;t set of lines I have posted…they are all jsut examples of the same message..spread the grit, spraed the scoring and go the balance route. Montreals biggest strength is it’s depth….why not play into it.

    • rhino514 says:

      I think it will help the team to split PK and Markov. That´s the best benefit of getting Emelin back. Not so much that Emelin is going to be really good right away, but it gives us a better balance on D.
      Either Subban or Markov will be on the ice most of the time, and that is a good thing.

  28. Say Ash says:

    How many Habs is Jessica Rusnak taller than?

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    Guess we find out how the L.A. Kings trade with Toronto works out soon, given Quick was injured last night.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24224410/jonathan-quick-suffers-lowerbody-injury-in-overtime

  30. 100HABS says:

    Re poll: Not a fan of shoot-outs and not a fan of 4 on 4. I like the thought of 10-minute OT, but keep it 5-on-5.

    I’m a hockey purist.

    • Luke says:

      A hockey purist?

      So you are looking for the return of the Rover, the straight blade and the removal of the forward pass?

      • Mattyleg says:

        Someone’s been reading Stephen Harper’s book…

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • 100HABS says:

        A purist born in the late sixties!

        I also like that the two-line off-side has been eliminated. If you’re so pure, maybe you won’t call me a purist.

        Still don’t like the 4on4 and shoot-out.

        • Mr. Biter says:

          I don’t mind the 4 on 4 at all as it makes the OT exciting, but since we seem to be losing in the SO we should dump it. Of course if we were winning the SO’s we’d all want to keep it.

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

        • Luke says:

          Just really talking about the use of the word “purist”, not so much what you’ve said.
          Sort of like how many of the pro-fighting crowd say “it has always been in the game”. The game has evolved and changed. “always been in the game” isn’t a legit argument (IMO).

          I’ll never argue that you SHOULD like shootouts. I’ll mention that I hate ties. I really like the 4 on 4. I’d prefer 10 minutes of that to 5 mins & the shootout.
          Heck, I’m almost ready for the league to eliminate one more skater and go 4 on 4 for the entire game. That’ll get rid of the slow players of …*ahem*… limited dimensions.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            I like the idea of 4 0n 4 all game. Scores would be football like. Lots of action. Would be interesting. Goalies would hate it.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

  31. adamkennelly says:

    why is everyone hammering on Parros? guy does his job when asked – period. Fact that his +/- is faked because MT cannot manage his bench is not really his fault. he makes 900K and plays every 3 games – hardly in the same category as DD, Briere and even Bourque, Pax etc.

    Habs have to play Toronto, Boston, Ottawa very regularly – we need guys like Parros so Prust doesn’t have to deal with crap constantly.

    Only knock I have against Parros is not really a knock on him – I would have preferred someone a little meaner and a lot younger..Habs should have grabbed Kassian (acquired for nothing) last year or Luke Gadzic this year – who Oilers got for nothing.

    • Mavid says:

      It is also possible that after yet another concussion he has to take it easy..imagine if had one more..were talking about a man’s life

      Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have no issues with Parros, I liked the move to get him. Having said that I think he will only play in specific games, where his role will be clear and there will be a similar player on the other team.

      The challenge is finding enough games for him to play in, so that he is not a liability per se on the ice. If the other team has a very fast 4th line, he can be exposed somewhat.

      I also think he is still getting his playing legs back, he looked pretty good on the forecheck that first game against T.O. Hopefully he gets back to prime shape shortly, or in fact is now after a little break.

  32. Mattyleg says:

    On TSN 690 they were making an interesting case that when Prust comes back, players like Bourque and Max should be feeling the heat rather than guys like White.

    Bourque has been very inconsistent for his whole career, but I wonder what it’d do to him to scratch him? Would it make him mad as hell, to come back harder than ever, or would it piss him off and make him care less?

    What about scratching Max?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • rhino514 says:

      I was scared of the Bourque signing initially, but I actually don´t have a problem with him.
      Except for when he came back from his concussion last year, he has has been good. One thing I notice about Bourque is, he may notch just around 20 goals a season and few assists, but it seems when he gets a goal, it´s a big and timely one. He also scored a beauty in the playoffs last spring, when few others were able to step up.
      He´s been off lately, but the whole team has been off. Prust and Yemmy back is going to help.

  33. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    Bournival played his best hockey with Pleks and Gio. Pleks and Gio played their best offensive hockey playing with Bournival. Should be a no brainer when it seems like scoring one lousy goal in 60 minutes is an impossible feat.

  34. johnnylarue says:

    I attribute our dwindling offense to Therrien’s proclivity towards knee-jerk line juggling this season.

    For someone who was so dedicated to his “vision” of a Patches/DD/Briere line in the pre-season, he’s shown very little patience with his line combinations since then. It’s telling that the only line with any visible chemistry is the kid line, since they’ve played together the most.

    I know, I know, injuries, blah blah blah… But seriously, are we ever going to see scoring lines remain intact following a loss? Ever? Does losing a game invariably mean that every line combination needs to be changed? Hell, I’m no coach, but…

  35. gmur says:

    Man, what a lifeless game last night for the Canadiens. Had it not been for the EGG line and Price, I would have had a semi-private burning of my neighbor’s Habs flag stuck in a window on his car. OK, I would have removed the flag from the car first…

    Many posters have pointed out the lacklustre play of Pacioretty and Bourque… our dainty power forwards. I saw Bourque give up on a play around centre ice because a pass was in his skates. He gave away the puck and then gave up on the Lightning player who had it. He is not a team player. Pacioretty seems to think that he can play a game that requires no grit, all skill. He doesn’t have that kind of skill. If he isn’t going to skate his ass off, hit, and drive the net, then he should go play in the KHL. Are the results of the Chara hit being felt now? Is he biding his time to make intense effort only when his contract is up? He has been MIA the last 5-6 games I have watched- disinterested and uninvolved.

    As for our dainty small players, Gionta doesn’t seem to be giving more than a minimal effort. Diaz seems frightened of opposing players.

    The return of Prust and Emelin will help in terms of intensity, but will it simply cover up problems on the team?

    In short, last night it seemed like half the team was going through the motions. Those signs are not very encouraging, and a win against the Islanders does not quell the issues raised by many posters today.

    4 wins the last 12 games… yikes. Someone better start turn things around.

  36. HabinBurlington says:

    Kerry Fraser discussing the disallowed goal against Montreal due to interference.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=436529

  37. rhino514 says:

    I think Briere should get a few games to prove himself on the third line. And much as many on here would disagree, DD probably deserves, at some point, most likely given injuries, one more short lived crack at the job.
    However, failing consistent play on by Briere, I´d like to see Prust on the third line, and Galchenyuk back at centre.
    Therrien very subtly stated that he was going to be moved there “later in the season”; why don´t they just get it over with and do it? Come playoff time I think Prust would do great on the third line.

  38. knob says:

    Nice to hear that Prust is going to draw into the line-up this weekend. Here is hoping that he can stay healthy.

  39. DipsyDoodler says:

    Interesting article here. Apparently many NBA teams are tanking this year for the chance to draft a young phenom:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/11/andrew_wiggins_kansas_the_unpaid_superstar_nba_teams_are_losing_on_purpose.html

  40. 100HABS says:

    Discussion on MB’s mistakes. Yeah, there’s DD, Parros, maybe Brière.

    The worst mistake he’s made?
    Choosing MT over Patrick Roy.
    Now that Roy is proving himself as an NHL head coach, he won’t be available for years. I wanted Roy and that, IMHO, is MB’s biggest mistake to date.

    • rhino514 says:

      there have been a few mistakes, but only one really big mistake; the DD signing.
      MB is a rookie GM and it shows sometimes. But he is passionate and hard.working, and he will learn fast
      And DD may rebound at some point, you never know.

      • Just a Habs Fan says:

        You may have overlooked DD’s season that inspired MB to sign him. There was no reason not to sign him based on the season he had. I can only imagine that if his contract was up last seasons end MB would have at least cut the cost by a quite a bit. This contract was signed in advance of this seaon based on a his big season of 60 + points ( memory says )

        • rhino514 says:

          Eller´s big breakout game last year came only a few days before the DD signing. It just happened a bit too late. unfortunate, that´s all.
          It´s true DD had a good year and a half, but with Galchenyuk, Pleks, and Eller showing signs of emerging, I really don´t think it made sense to sign DD long term.

    • Luke says:

      He didn’t chose MT over Roy.

      MT was hired at the beginning of the 12-13 season. Roy was hired to start the 13-14 season.

      Roy was also given signifigant control over player decisions in Colorado. He’s a rookie coach, and the only one in the league with this responsibility.

      Why wasn’t Roy hired in 12/13? Who really knows. Perhaps he declined. Perhaps he was unhappy with the offer. Perhaps MB was unwilling to give him the VP responsibilities in addition to the coaching job.

      • 100HABS says:

        Roy was ready for the job. He said so publicly. I also heard he bought a house on the South shore shortly before MT’s hiring. He thought he was coming here. I am convinced it was MB’s decision.

        • Luke says:

          Hmmm Hadn’t heard that… but I suppose (since apparently I’m being a cynical old crank today) I’d be worried about a guy who is moving in and setting up shop because he assumed the job was his.

  41. habsfan0 says:

    With Prust,Briere,Emelin, and Parros returning to the lineup,we shall soon see what this team is truly capable of.
    As the saying in the dressing room goes: “No Excuses”

  42. DipsyDoodler says:

    Does anyone know why they bother with speed bumps in Westmount/NDG? The potholes, cracks, and ridges in the asphalt make every street a succession of speedbumps.

    I had coffee in my cup holder and it kept spilling all over the dash and passenger seat.

    And it wasn’t one of those chintzy plastic covers either. It was a very good coffee cup with a well fitted lid.

  43. HabinBurlington says:

    I’m guessing we see Parros in the lineup on Friday against Columbus, chances are he and Jarred Boll will have a slowdance.

  44. Drew42 says:

    First, Glad to see Prust will be back, hopefully he is not coming back to early….

    Secondly… Not really on topic, but sort of Hockey related… is regarding a Charity hockey tournament this coming weekend.

    My wife is involved in the Scotiabank Hockey for Alzheimer’s charity tournament on Nov. 15 – 17 at Canlan Ice Sports in North Vancouver.

    She is very excited about the opportunity to participate in a weekend tournament with NHL alumni and supporting a very important cause because this event will help the Alzheimer Society of B.C. continue their work to support families impacted by dementia and to fund research for a cure. This cause is very near and dear to her heart – She is hoping that one day, people like her grandmother can wake up and have the Alzheimer’s fog that has clouded her brain lifted.

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    Funds raised through the 2013 Scotiabank Hockey for Alzheimer’s support the work of the Alzheimer Society, and helps to ensure that people in B.C. whose lives have been impacted by Alzheimer’s disease or other dementia can connect to a province-wide network of information, education and support that helps them build the knowledge, skills and confidence to maintain quality of life.

    If I can get your help in distributing this message that would be great. Alzheimer’s is not only an “old person’s” disease – the youngest person diagnosed with Alzheimer’s was only 27 years of age. Every little bit helps to beat this disease.

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  45. HabinBurlington says:

    Perhaps Lafontaine will hire Neil Smith as his GM. I believe both Lafontaine and Smith were both working for the Islanders that same summer when the owner fired Smith about 8 hours after hiring him and instead realizing he could save money by having his backup goalie be the GM.

    • donmarco says:

      Why am I getting a sinking feeling it could be Rick Dudley. He has history with the team and is extremely well regarded throughout the league.

      Update – lafontaine quoted as saying he has one guy in mind for GM who has Stanley Cup winning experience. Did not name names, but it’s all over buffalo media. He would need permission from both the NHL and Canadiens to interview Dudley. Looking more and more likely.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Shhh, I am laying the groundwork for Lafontaine to go a different direction, thus the Neil Smith angle! ;-)

        • donmarco says:

          Ooh, sorry. You’re right, Neil Smith would be ideal. Dudley would be a terrible choice as GM, with that drug and alcohol problem he has. Not to mention that incident involving the minor. Or was it a miner?

  46. matt jordan says:

    The problem with the Habs this year (along with potentially, maybe on occasion in the past, uh, few years as well) is the Habs have a lot of trouble seperating opposing players from the puck.

    Other teams accomplish this by using their body. They player steps into the opposition player, creating contact and stopping the opposition’s momentum. The offensive player is forced to focus on the body contact AND keep control of the puck. Seeing as how doing two things at once is harder than doing one thing, creating this “body contact” helps create turnovers.

    Not only that, making contact with the opposition is cumulative, mentally and physically! This “body contact”, or a “body-check” (I remembered this term watching an out of town broadcast of a non-Habs game, never on a Habs game in the past fifteen years though, explains why so many Hab fans don’t appear to know what it is) as some call it drains an opposing player. Players become wary of bodychecks, as they physically hurt, depending on the size of the player throwing the bodycheck. In fact, after several body checks received, some players get into habits of throwing the puck away (this is the mental side of the body check) to avoid receiving a body check.

    The Habs do not attempt to do this or create this “body contact”. As a result, the Habs do not create as many turnovers. In fact, if you go the NHL.com stats page, you can see the Habs are at the bottom of the NHL in both hits (another term for body-check) and turnovers.

    I wonder if these stats have any correlation. Weird.

    Even if the Habs do attempt this body contact, it seems as though the opposition is more effective at it. It’s as if the other teams players are bigger or something! Again, very weird.

  47. FANHABULOUS says:

    Wrote this on the other thread…wondering what others think.

    I think it is becoming obvious that something is not right with our offense. At first, I thought it was a systemic issue, meaning MT’s system has dictated a set of “safety-first” type of plays that end up stifling our creativity. I still think there is an element of that, but there are deeper issues as well.

    Most would agree that it’s super frustrating to see Gio, Plec, Max and others skate over the blue line, then just throw a hopeless puck towards the goalie from the corner board. This play is so freaking obvious… if a guy sitting on his couch sucking down potato chips can see this play coming a mile away, it means that it is also obvious to the other team. My first instinct was to say that this is due to MT making guys do that… play safe. Get it on goal, hope for a rebound. But its not entirely true to fault him on this… after all, we all love the drive, creativity and skill of the EGG line… unlike the other lines, these guys actually try to create a play when they cross the line. I rarely see any of them take the easy route and just throw it at goal from the corner board at the blue line (unless they are at the end of a shift of course).

    Then I started thinking back to when the Count was coaching a couple of seasons ago. Same thing, guys like Gio, Plec, Max and others did the exact same thing. A boring, non-creative, easy-way-out play like barely crossing the blue line then just throwing at net. And this is where I changed my mind: I don’t think that MT is preaching that play (again, see EGG line, or when guys with drive like Prust or Bournival are on the ice)… instead, its the usual suspects: Gio, Plec, Max, Bork, DB, DD, and our entire 4th line (which is kinda expected for them). These guys just do not have another facet to their game. Look, I love Plec and I think he is underrated and a great defensive center… Gio and Bork will get you 20 goals on a regular basis… Max has the potential for more. But overall, these guys lack imagination, creativity and worst of all the drive and confidence to try and make a creative play to generate offense. They make the so called “safe play” but thats NOT what they’re primary goal should be… I think we need a top 6 that is more like the EGG line, skilled, creative and willing to make dangerous plays to generate offense. Our bottom 6 can be more conservative and take less chances…as of right now, we have an imbalance in that area.

    ____________________________________
    “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

  48. WVHabsfan says:

    I like how you look at the lines, Eddie

  49. habcertain says:

    the whole gang is back, no more injury excuses, who’ll be left to blame?

  50. TaxGuy says:

    Who sits for Prust?

  51. Eddie says:

    So…..Bournival was playing terrific hockey with Plekanec and Gionta, was he not?

    I felt like Bournival had really found his place. He was actually making Plekanec and Gionta better, not the other way around.

    We know the Kids have a good line.

    So that leaves Briere at center with Bourque and Max.

    At least keep two working lines together for a few weeks and see if we can score some goals, and maybe the line with Briere, Bourque and Max will come together as well. You never know.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Yes. Last night you could see how the Plekanec line improved when Bourni was reunited with them. Briere-Max-Bourque is a potentially dangerous 3rd line ( tying goal last night). This also gives us a legit 4th line of Prust-White-Moen. Now that’s worth watching.

      • adamhabsalex says:

        Couldn’t agree with you more. I would go as far as saying they were the best line when MT split them up. The worst attribute a coach can have is to not be able to get out of his own way. If something is working well leave it alone … isn’t it really that simple?

    • 100HABS says:

      I agree. I’ve been thinking the same, also because Max and Plecky never seem to build chemistry together.

  52. krob1000 says:

    Ted Nolan is perfect fit for Buff…..they ahve a ton of young talent and he is a great coach for younger players.

  53. B says:

    Games over now, Dogs lose to Rochester 3-1, the third goal was an empty netter. Andrighetto scores his 7th (one less than Kristo’s 8).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  54. donmarco says:

    Here’s one for the conspiracy theorists. Following one of their most listless performances of the season the practice is CANCELLED and switched to optional? Usually the day after a game like last night is a bag skate as punishment. This time, they’re rewarded? And it starts a half hour late?

    Something is going on only the players and coaches know about.

    As Eklund would say………. more to come.

  55. Timo says:

    So far in November has have 5 loses and 1 win. Why would anyone be pessimistic over this is beyond me.

  56. frontenac1 says:

    Hey Amigos! I know I’m not the only one having problems posting from mobile for the last 2wks.Has anyone figured out a fix using Android or BB10?

  57. C-Sword says:

    I was at the game last night. Despite the loss, I got to watch one of Price’s best performances yet, I liked how calm and focused he was, there were some shots that I thought they were going in for sure, but he somehow managed to keep the puck out, he totally deserved the contract they gave him, cause he’s the one who carries this team, not PK and not Gallagher, he was the reason why we did not lose in regulation.

    The kids line is the only one that poses a threat nearly every match, if they don’t score, we’d either win a tight game by a goal or lose. Removing Bournival from the Pleks line was a bad idea, Gionta and Plekanec need a player that creates space for them and fight for the puck, I hadn’t been impressed by Pacioretty for a while now, he rarely passes, he always insists on shooting, but most of his shots go wide and he does not drive to the net like a power forward should, not to mention he’s injury prone and seems to always come back before he’s fully recovered.

    How did we get outshot that bad in our own rink is beyond belief. Our defensemen are either too soft (Diaz) or too slow (Murray). We kept losing puck battles and having troubles clearing our own zone. Emelin’s return is going to help a bit. Can’t wait until Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn replace the dead wood.

    Why doesn’t Eller get a chance in the shootouts? In my opinion, he has better hands than Gallagher, the latter is more of a crash the net and one timer type of shooter. I remember Eller scoring on a penalty shot and a few breakaways. They need to start practicing for shootouts, cause those extra points they lost may come back to haunt them.

    • Caesar says:

      Question about watching live did you see Gallagher being a disturber all over the ice during and after the play? We don’t get to see this on tv but you get to see it live. He’s really something pushing buttons everywhere with that ear to ear grin. I love it.

  58. Max says:

    What’s up with all these optional practices for the habs? I guess it’s the norm for most NHL teams, but they are far from perfect and I think a good hard practice between games would help work out the kinks. Excessive shooting drills,pp/pk stuff etc.

  59. Timo says:

    That’s dedication

    11:04 Aucun joueur sur la glace, optionnel??

    11:06 Budaj vient d’arriver sur la glace

    11:07 L’entraînement optionnel débutera à 11:30

    11:12 Desharnais est sur la glace avec Bournival

    11:20 Neuf joueurs sont sur la glace

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      It’s reasonable that players who sit or are recovering from injury take part, while players who play regularly take a rest day, to forestall fatigue and overtraining.

  60. habs-fan-84 says:

    So hopefully Emelin takes Bouillon’s spot. Although Murray looked rough in his first few outings (understandable after missing as much time as he did), he’s looked solid recently (now that he’s settled in and simplified things). Definitely hope Murray stays in the lineup. Prust should also help on the 4th line.

    This team will begin to tear it up now that they’ll be playing their usual opponents in the east.

    Good times are just around the corner.

  61. adamkennelly says:

    Murray is exceeding my expectations – which were low after his pre-season performance but its clear that opposing forwards don’t really want to deal with him…add Emelin to the mix and we are approaching an NHL caliber D corps.

    • adamhabsalex says:

      I agree … there was a sequence last night where Murray gave Malone some wood across the back and knocked him down pretty good so he is at least doing what he was brought in to do.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’ve read this a couple of times about Murray’s pre-season performance, and it’s time to put a stop to it.

      Douglas Murray didn’t play a single pre-season game, he was injured. So we can’t pretend to have had any expectations based on “his pre-season performance.”

  62. habsfan0 says:

    I believe Habs are in Columbus,Ohio Friday,not Washington,D.C.
    Columbus is a nice town,but not as many monuments as Washington.

  63. Ozmodiar says:

    Dumont to the Hammer.

    Who plays on the 4th line if Prust does not – DD or Parros?? Yikes!

  64. donmarco says:

    Well now, this is a headline I’ve been looking forward to seeing. By the weekend we’ll have Emelin and Prust back. Sweet.

    • Timo says:

      I can see D getting a little better (although, Emelin will probably need a few games to get his groove back) but offense… I doubt anything will change.

      Actually, D is also not a given because I bet that Therrien in his infinite wisdom will sit Murray and continue to ride Bouillon. (Btw, did everyone notice how well behaved Malone was around the Habs net with Murray there? He was an angel)

      • mrhabby says:

        picked up on Malone’s act to…such a douche.

      • donmarco says:

        I can see the return of the 2 of them infusing a little more energy into the lineup, but not scoring. One positive result of the spate of injuries was the chance it gave to Bournival who isn’t going anywhere. The 4th line may actually be a line now with Prust on it. We’re at least better with them than we were without them.

  65. Timo says:

    The 3rd liner our jeezus lord and savior is here. Watch for Habs go on an offensive tear, unless of course, Gionta tells us that they haven’t showed up for the first 40 minutes.

    Nothing is going to change with Prust’s return as far as these stiffs’ inability to score more than one goal.

  66. Ian Cobb says:

    How many shoot outs have we won?? Is there anyone that can beat a goal tender 1 on 1 in our line up. ?

    Price cannot be the only player that wins points in the standing. It is getting very close to where Bergevin must start thinking about how to obtain a pure sniper.

  67. veryhabby says:

    almost fist for the first time ever! darn

  68. Bripro says:

    Yes!

    …..ok? Maybe not.

  69. bwoar says:

    Ted Nolan gets the last laugh in BUF. Love it.

    Oh yeah… 1st.

    “thoroughbred”

  70. johnnylarue says:

    I second the praise for White. He’s won me over.

  71. doc359 says:

    Loved white. Great 4th line center.
    But god, get Parros and Frankie out of the line-up, they don’t have much hockey left in them (I question Parros ever having any).
    Hopefully later in the season Tinordi will have developed to being able to handle the NHL game play and replace Murray as well.

  72. Bob_Sacamano says:

    You´ll be really sad when the useless Murray sits for Emelin, I guess.

  73. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Emelin will replace Murray, Tinordi eventually Bouillon. That´s when our D could be really good.

  74. Shane1313 says:

    I noticed that.
    I certainly enjoyed it
    Not talking about Gio tho


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