Prust, Armstrong, Gallagher sign for charity Friday in Brossard

Brandon Prust

Canadiens forward Brandon Prust is in the autograph spotlight on Friday.
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Canadiens fans will have a chance to meet Brandon Prust, Colby Armstrong and Brendan Gallagher – and possibly others, who might drop by at the last minute (no guarantees) – Friday from 7-8 p.m. at Le Skratch, 1875 Panama Ave. in Brossard from 7-8 p.m.

This is a bit of a “Welcome to Montreal” event organized for the fan-favourite Prust by Hockey Helps, and Armstrong and Gallagher are confirmed to be part of it.

It will cost you $8 for a Prust autograph, in keeping with his jersey number; $20 will get you signatures of both Armstrong and Gallagher. A portion of proceeds will go to two Montreal charities in the players’ names – the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation and the Montreal Children’s Hospital Foundation’s Stratos Raphael Angelopoulos Fund.

There will be items up for bid in a silent auction, and former Canadien Yvon Lambert will call a live auction on site.

• PLEASE NOTE: Le Skratch is a licensed establishment and admits only those 18 years of age and older. From 6:30 to 7 p.m., a signing for those under 18 will be held at an adjacent restaurant; arrive at Le Skratch and you’ll be directed there.

678 Comments

  1. habs-fan-84 says:

    I have to give MT an A….but I’d still like to see him use Eller more…

  2. HabinBurlington says:

    New Poll question, Hey Timo I see you voted 3 times already! Well done bud! :)

  3. Habfan17 says:

    Wow, MacKinnon dropped to 3rd in the new rankings by ISS. Drouin now 4th, Jones is first and VALERY NICHUSHKIN is 2nd. Maybe not a bad pick for the Habs, left wing 6’4″ 196 lbs

    Habfan17

  4. Stevie.Ray says:

    Rumour mills (lie factories) say Habs are very interested in O’Reilly. What do you guys think of him? What would you be willing to trade?

  5. commandant says:

    Did they ever explain why there were three whole sections that were completely empty? Right at Centre Ice and right behind the benches.

    Now the rest of the rink was sporadically full, but I couldn’t figure out why three whole sections of prime seating were completely empty last night.

    Go Habs Go!
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    • Habshire says:

      On the radio Ted Bird said those seats were sold out but the corporate buyers were watching in a lounge somewhere else in the building. Something to that effect.

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    Let’s reverse the argument.

    If we need a good d-man to prevent running our goalie, it suggests that running the keeper is a good strategy. It’s such a good strategy that it needs a deterrent.

    Do you (collectively) advocate running other teams’ goalies and if not why not?

    • Habfan17 says:

      Because Bourque now spends 2 minutes in the box for goalie interference! The Refs need to call the crap then teams won’t try it anymore. I also don’t believe that kind of crap is necessary or good. I love good hard checking hockey, but not the crap that puts players at needless risk. I want to enjoy the skill.

      Habfan17

    • Loonie says:

      No. It’s gutless because most goalies can’t protect themselves from a player who’s built up speed and has the opportunity to come at them full-tilt.

      One exception in my book to running the goalie. If you’re in the playoffs against one that is absolutely stealing the show and may knock you out by himself, go nuts. But make it count.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Actually prefer it depending on the situation than to retaliating right away. For example, if Lucic runs Price, who honestly can hurt him? If there is someone, then what happens if he is not on the ice at that time? You want Lucic to beat up Gorges like Komisarek? They’re better off returning the favour and running Rask.

    • Cal says:

      It’s been happening to the Habs for a little over a decade now. So, yes.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I will support running the goalie when Tim Thomas comes out of retirement.

  7. Habfan17 says:

    Did anyone else notice that Gudbranson was screwed on that interference penalty he drew on Cole? I missed the intitial play, however, when they ran the replay, it sure looked like Cole was sleep skating and had no clue when he decided to skate in front of the net to cut off the puck carrier, that Gudbranson was even there!
    It looked like he just plain ran into him and that Gudbranson put his arms up to protect himself.

    Habfan17

  8. frontenac1 says:

    Loved the Killer.Glad he got to wear the CH for a season.

  9. 24 Cups says:

    The Habs are off to a start that is beyond people’s dreams. No one expected it (or called it!)

    Could you imagine this website if their record was reversed?

    A 4-8-1= 9 record would have us crucifying management and players alike while debating who to take in the lottery draft.

    I wonder what’s going on at the Panther website:-)

    • Loonie says:

      I’d actually be tickled at the thought of a top 5 pick in a year that will have an asterisk beside it over the course of time.

      • 24 Cups says:

        I read somewhere that if a team is more than 7 points out of a playoff spot at the 1/3 mark of the season, their chances of making the post season are close to nil. Reverse the Habs record and lose to Philly……

        It’s a fine line between chaos and creation.

    • Cal says:

      Dale Tallon shudders ever time he logs in there. ;)

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Dale Tallon is the Tankmeister. Everything is going according to plan.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Wasn’t he a genius last year? Sucks to be him now…

      • 24 Cups says:

        Cal – I see that Henri Richard is your favourite player. Even though he won 11 Cups, I always felt he never received proper recognition having played in the shadow of The Rocket and Beliveau.

        The Pocket Rocket was just 5’7″. Dionne was 5’8″ and Mikita was 5’9″. Those were the days.

        • Cal says:

          My favorite memory of him (besides the Cup winning goal against Chicago) is the way he launched himself at defenders who were not only a lot taller, but out-weighed him by 50 lbs. He was the original tiger. 5 foot 7 inches of pure predatory ferocity. I can only hope Gallagher sees some of the old film of the Pocket Rocket and emulates him. What a player!

          • 24 Cups says:

            Cal – I take it you’re an old fart like me.

            It’s good to have you around. All the guys on this site under the age of 50 know SFA:-)

          • Cal says:

            @24- I read a lot of posts and can’t help but laugh. But, you’re only young once, so rant on!

          • Blondie says:

            Another proud member of the old farts club, and the Henri Richard fan club. :)

            If Gallagher turns out to be half the player Henri was we’ll have a good one on our hands.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Just kidding, of course, but there’s always an element of truth in all sarcasm. Truth be told, I’d love to be 50 again!

    • HammerHab says:

      The Panthers have a website?

      ———————————–

      It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  10. Loonie says:

    Regarding running the goalie and the powerplay being the best deterrent.

    I agree provided the powerplay as HF72 suggests is lethal. And by that I mean it’s a surprise when the team in question doesn’t score when on the Powerplay.

    As for the Lucic like players running the goalie and then not answering the bell.

    That’s the entire purpose of having the big, good defenseman who can fight. He’s on the ice more often than not against those Lucic type players.

    And as for the not answering the bell. When they’re on the ice at the same time and an opposing player runs your goalie, you don’t give the guy who did it a choice. He’s either fighting or taking a beating. His choice.

    In addition. This is a problem the Habs haven’t had in years. For a very long time they had two capable goaltenders. THAT’S the best deterrent against an opposing team running your goalie. It’s pointless with a good one behind your starter.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      “When they’re on the ice at the same time and an opposing player runs your goalie, you don’t give the guy who did it a choice. He’s either fighting or taking a beating. His choice.”

      This is exactly why I laughed when I read people whining about Bouillon taking the penalty on Hedman (I think it was Hedman) the other night. That’s a penalty he HAD to take. If he doesn’t it continues to happen…I don’t understand what’s difficult to understand about that.

      Did people really want Bouillon to just skate away with his hands in his proverbial pockets? lol

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Sorry but I think judgment has to be used in these situations. I believe in retaliation but not always right away. Retaliation should be delivered when it affects the team the least. At that time, the Habs were up two goals with 4 min to go against one of the most offensive teams in the league. The game was not over yet. The win should always be priority number#1. The penalty would have basically wrapped up the games for the Habs. They could have then with 30 sec left run TB’s goalie or jump one of their players with the win in hand. Sorry, just a different point of view I guess.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Loonie, good comment my friend. Please continue to educate the people.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Lucic still won’t fight anyone who can fight, and if this is one of your best defencemen, he will sit in the box for 2 to 5 minutes and you lose a top defender.

      What the Habs need is more size and grit. Players that won’t be intimidated and can hold off the crease crashers. Nasty is better than fighter like Gilmour used to be.

      Players like Ludwig, Nyrop, Lapointe, Savard, Chartraw. Players who, when they hit guys like Lucic, clean, they punish him. A bone crushing hip check into the boards like Robinson would do will work as a deterant to the scum like Lucic.

      The Habs do not have anyone like this right now. If you have a player who will drill Lucic onto his ass when he tries to crash the crease, that will stop it.

      Habfan17

      • Loonie says:

        Exactly. And getting a player who won’t give Lucic the choice of whether or not he’ll fight is a good idea.

        You’re agreeing and you don’t even know it

        ;)

        • Habfan17 says:

          Up to the point about fighting ;)

          Hey, was is just ne, or did Cole look like he was sleep skating when he ran into Gudbranson. I did not see it intially, but hen I watched the replays later, it sure looked like Cole put his head down and went to skate in front of the net to try to cut off the puck carrier and he had no clue Gudbranson was there. It looked like Gudbranon was as suprised as I was and just put his arms up to protect himself.

          Habfan17

        • Habfan17 says:

          I advocate for the knock him hars an his ass, and if he gets up and wants to start, let him take the penalty, then score on the power play and laugh at him after! If he keeps doing it, his coach will punch him out…lol

          Habfan17

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Lucic definitely does pick his spots.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Gilmour?

        • Habfan17 says:

          Yes, Doug Gilmour. He didn’t fight, but he made space for himself because he was nasty, although sometimes over the line and just plain dirty. Just like Glen Anderson too

          Habfan17

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            I love Gilmour don’t get me wrong and he was gritty but the Bruins would swat him like a fly.

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            Didn’t Gilmour fight a guy for cutting the legs off of Theodore when he was way out of his crease.

            I seem to recall Killer going postal and defending his goalie at all costs.

      • DAVE. N says:

        The problem is bone crushing body and hip checks are now called “roughing”,” interference” ,etc…I posted on this the other day. They want “flow” and “speed” and “finesse skating”…all the fine attributes associated with figure skating

    • the Octopus says:

      I agree 100%: fight or be devoured

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      White says don’t even get close to Price lol:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4cDxDE0jOVM#!

      That is how it’s done.

  11. 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

    Contrarian time: Consider that perhaps we DON’T need a hulking defenceman who can clear the net and drop the gloves with the 4th liners of the league.

    The Steve Ott incident was a horribly blown call – the league is not going to let goaltenders be run and the old cross check to the back clearing method is getting called in a big way.

    Right now I would rather have Boullion using leverage than John Erskine chasing a guy who blew past him.

    Florida has Parros … did it look for a minute that his pugilism was needed?

    “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I think we need one as a reserve. He would at least play once in a while. We have guys who are never going to play unless there is an injury. That is a waste of cap space as far as I am concerned.

    • Cal says:

      Too many times the opposition has crashed Price’s net and receive no retribution, so they keep coming back for more.
      Habs need a crease-clearing Dman.

    • Loonie says:

      A big, excellent defenseman who can drop the gloves and intimidate is much easier to find than a player who can contribute offense, defense and intimidate.

      Thus the call for somebody like that on defense.

      You’re never going to find somebody who can intimidate everybody. But somebody on the back end who’s on the ice much more often than a fourth liner is a good find because they’re actually on the ice more often than not when the crap starts.

      Imagine that Tampa player(forget who it was) having to answer to an Erskine, Murray, Vandermeer, Jackman or like player instead of Bouillon.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Problem is you don’t have to answer. If you refuse to drop the gloves nothing can happen.

        • Loonie says:

          Yeah and you can just let guys run the most expensive player in the history of the franchise free of charge.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            1. Players who even tap the goalie lightly are getting 2 min for interference this year. As a strategy, running the opposing goalie is a dead end.

            2. Even if a team foolishly resorted to it, a player who attacks another player gets either 2 min or 2+5. And doesn’t hurt the opposing player.

            Those two together mean that a big d-man specifically as a deterrent to running the goalie (as opposed to other virtues of a big d-man which are undeniable) is as useful as the Maginot Line.

            Price has not been getting run this year. He’s been bumped into a couple of times and it’s resulted in powerplays for us.

          • Habfan17 says:

            Here is my take, although you probably don’t care. Players like Lucic and Marchand and the other of their ilk will keep running the goaltender even if you have a player like Scott. The reason being is that they will never answer the bell. They stir up crap and then skate away. The only time they ” fight” is when they sucker someone or punch them with their gloves on and usually from behind. The other issue is an enforcer can’t alway be on the ice, especially in the 3rd period if you are protecting a lead in a close game. What you need are strong defenders that can hold these guys at bay and not get backed into the goalie and won’t back down. That is the tough and sandpaper they need.

            Habfan17

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            What habfan17 said.

        • the Octopus says:

          If they refuse to drop the gloves, they’ll get jumped and pounded anyways, its a win/win IMO

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            That guy White “pounded” didn’t even feel it. Every blow on his protective equipment.

          • Habfan17 says:

            The you play short handed and potentially get scored on and lose the game..that is showing them!

            Habfan17

          • the Octopus says:

            Okay, let me present a scenario:
            “Boston vs Montreal, the score is 3-1 Montreal. Lucic attempts to deflect a rebound, but Price saves the puck. Lucic, out of cruelty, spite, and hatred proceeds to sucker punch Price in the head, ending his career. He receives no retaliation, had their been a big, tough crease-clearing Defenceman present, he likely would not have done anything.”

            I fear it will take an incident like this for our management to firmly say “NEVER AGAIN”

            we must protect Price at all costs, if we get penalized, so be it.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Big tough d-man would be nice, but needs to be a1-4 d-man which going to cost us something. But another big mean forward could do the same damage to Lucic. Prust, White and (?)would probably be on the ice at the same time as the Tough D-man (5-6) so when our 1st and 2nd forward and defense pairings are out there there is not much help for Price. However a good spear in the kahonnes by a smaller player would definatly be a determent to Lucic.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

      • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

        I guess my take is that if you are going to crash the net, you don’t care who is on the ice.

        “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

        • Cal says:

          You do if there’s a Dman that will make you pay. I am not saying that this will stop it from happening. I am saying that when this s–t happens that the Habs must answer, and immediately.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Pay how? Letting a big goon hit you 2-3 times on the shoulder pads before the linesmen break it up?

          • Cal says:

            @72- How about with a nice cross check across the chops? Lots of successful teams, in fact all of them, protect their goalies.

    • the Octopus says:

      You sir, are crazy, Price is the worst defended Goalie in the NHL.

      We need that kind of player simply for the safety of our best asset.

  12. bwoar says:

    Loonie, an even better question: Why in the world is Josh Gorges ever on the powerplay? Is it because Emelin is that bad there (which seems to be the case)?

    “thoroughbred”

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Bwoar, I think Gorges is out there for the end so that they have a defensive presence when the other teams gets back to even – might even be a specific dman matchup going on.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • HabinBurlington says:

      From what I have seen he might finish a powerplay and that is all. Markov/PK, Diaz/Boullion are now getting the pp time.

      I still would prefer Markov/Diaz and PK/Emelin or some combination thereof.

      I don’t see Gorges getting powerplay time of any significance.

      • athanor says:

        I agree with the Markov/Diaz scenario.They were doing brilliantly at the beginning of the season. Maybe neither is a big point shot, but they have enough wiles that they don’t really need it.

        And Markov does have four power play goals so far, with a bunch of PP assists to boot.

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          You don’t necessarily need a big cannon with Markov. It helps, but as long as you have someone who can setup and distribute from the top of the faceoff circle, you can do damage with Markov. Be it from one timers from the circle (Cammy, Kovalev style) or backdoor passes back to Markov for the Tap in.

    • Loonie says:

      Emelin’s offense is light years ahead of Gorges’.

      Personally I’d give Subban a two minute powerplay on every second PP.

      He’s young, in great shape. He can handle it.

      Markov, Subban and Diaz.

      That’s it.

    • joeybarrie says:

      Gorges has played a team 3rd lowest 11 seconds a game on the PP….. A total of 2 minutes 23 seconds in 13 games.

  13. FANHABULOUS says:

    My fellow Habs addicts,

    Anyone know where I can watch the 24CH full episodes online (English version)? HabsTV only has clips, and I can’t find out where to find it online. Help a brother out!

  14. HabsFan1111 says:

    I honestly think we are a stud #1 centre away from being serious contenders.

    If you look at our top 9 fwds, 4 (Pleks, Gio, Gally, DD) of them are undersized, representing 44.4% of our top 3 lines. In turn, we will always have 2 undersized guys on one of our top 3 lines no matter what (unless you play 3 of them together which wouldn’t make much sense or put a smurf on each of your 4 lines). At this stage DD is most expendable, but his value is also plummeting with his lack of production and now being on the perpetual line shuffle, will struggle creating chemistry without wingers who are scoring.

    Question is: will management make a move to address this? Would we be willing to give up the assets for a ‘Getzlaf type’ centreman?

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      I don’t disagree but with all due respect, a lot of teams would fall into this category, Getzlaf could put a lot of teams into contender status. Galchenyuk should be that guy in 3-4 years. Maybe Eller is that #2 in the future, while Pleks has a lot of good years left.

      A lot of Big forwards in this draft, Barkov, Lindholm, Nichuskin (spelling*), Erne, etc.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  15. Xsteve50 says:

    1 * – New Jersey ATL 13 8 2 3 19 8 35 28 +7 5-1-1 3-1-2 0-1 5-2-3 Lost 1
    2 * – Boston NE 11 8 1 2 18 6 32 25 +7 4-1-1 4-0-1 2-1 7-1-2 OT 1
    3 * – Carolina SE 13 8 4 1 17 8 41 37 +4 3-2-0 5-2-1 – 7-2-1 Won 3
    4 Pittsburgh ATL 14 9 5 0 18 8 45 34 +11 3-3-0 6-2-0 1-0 7-3-0 Won 1
    5 Montréal NE 13 8 4 1 17 7 36 33 +3 5-3-0 3-1-1 1-1 6-3-1 Won 2
    6 Toronto NE 14 8 6 0 16 8 40 36 +4 2-4-0 6-2-0 – 6-4-0 Lost 1
    7 Ottawa NE 14 7 5 2 16 7 35 27 +8 5-1-2 2-4-0 0-1 4-4-2 Lost 1
    8 NY Rangers ATL 13 7 5 1 15 6 36 34 +2 5-2-1 2-3-0 1-1 6-3-1 OT 1

    9 Tampa Bay SE 13 6 6 1 13 6 49 40 +9 5-2-1 1-4-0 0-1 4-5-1 Lost 1
    10 Philadelphia ATL 14 6 7 1 13 6 34 40 -6 4-1-1 2-6-0 0-1 5-4-1 Won 1
    11 Winnipeg SE 12 5 6 1 11 5 32 40 -8 3-3-0 2-3-1 0-1 5-5-0 Lost 1
    12 NY Islanders ATL 13 5 7 1 11 4 40 46 -6 1-5-0 4-2-1 1-0 3-6-1 Won 1
    13 Florida SE 13 4 6 3 11 3 30 47 -17 2-2-2 2-4-1 1-0 3-4-3 OT 2
    14 Washington SE 14 5 8 1 11 5 40 49 -9 3-4-0 2-4-1 – 5-5-0 Won 3
    15 Buffalo NE 14 5 8 1 11 4 39 48 -9 2-3-1 3-5-0 1-0 3-6-1 Lost 2

    Montreal 5th….nothing more needs to be said…remember this team is re-building…

  16. Loonie says:

    Of the mistakes that have been made by management in the past I wonder if Gorges’ contract won’t wind up being one of them.

    The guy’s tremendous. Great leader, great shot blocker and excellent defensively.

    But he doesn’t bring size, his speed, passing and shot are all mediocre at best and it seems he was given his contract based primarily on his ability to coach in the room.

    His presence on a young rebuilding team would be paramount so maybe as this team brings in more youth he’ll be worth his salary and then some, but right now I don’t see the return on the investment.

    Nearly everything he brings is seen in a guy like Bouillon, but Bouillon quite frankly is a better player in my opinion.

    Leadership is tremendously valuable but in terms of business can be found at much less expensive cost than what this team is paying for Gorges.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Gorges has looked a bit sloppy this year, but he’ll be fine for us. We could’ve had him at 3 Mil for the 6 yr term but they wanted to give him the 1-year bridge and we ended up paying the high end. Similar to what will happen to Subban when he gets well above 5M in 2 years. But Gorges contract I think will still be manageable going forward.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Tom, those are some valid points but my take is that by the last years of his contract, the dollar value for sheer performance will be a fair trade.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Defensive defencemen seem to be going for ~3.5-4 mil a year. Also the Habs had no one to replace him so either they had to sign what they were familiar with or go via free agency for the unknown @ probably more money.

    • bwoar says:

      You wonder?

      They gave a shot-blocker, with bad knees and no ability to handle net traffic, 4 mil per for six years – because he has “heart and leadership”. A #5-6 defenseman for cryin’ out loud! That ranks up there with any of the other stupid contracts the Habs have signed in the last ten years.

      The real headscratcher – how do you pay a starting goalie in the NHL 6.5m per year, no matter how good he is, and NOT screw up your salary structure? Answer: Impossible. Especially with the cap coming down.

      I like Carey Price, great goaile, but those two contracts are, eh… incredibly optimistic.

      “thoroughbred”

      • Loonie says:

        The cap will go back up but I agree on both contracts. I would have gone to $6 million max on Price but would have done everything possible to get him signed for $5-$5.5 million.

        That contract got done pretty quickly so I’m not sure how much negotiating went into it. Seemed like it was more of a “what do you want, it’s yours” negotiation.

    • Habilis says:

      I hate to say it, but based on his play so far, I have to agree. I probably wouldn’t feel this way if the cap weren’t coming down next season, but that fact makes alot of contracts look suspect now.

      It could be worse though, we could have signed Ryan Suter for 98 million. ;)

  17. Habilis says:

    Get this:

    The Leafs are going to have a pre-game cerimony tomorrow night to honor their 1963 Cup winners (50 years).

    Have you ever heard anything more pathetic?

  18. ont fan says:

    I am surprised how Paciorretty doesn’t get ripped around here. He barely gets mentioned when we talk about any woes on the team. So why does he get off so lightly. Appendix?

  19. B says:

    Overall, only 5 teams currently rank ahead of the Habs (2 from the Eastern Conf, 3 from the West):

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20132ALLSAAAll&sort=pointPctg&viewName=summary

    –Go Habs Go!–

  20. the Octopus says:

    Kaberle + second rounder to San Jose for Douglas Murray

    what a trade that would be

  21. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Really surprised at the negative reaction to last night’s game. Thought it was the kind of road games good teams play. Dominated puck possession, gave little to nothing for the opposition to go on (except a few sequences in the third) and didn’t get discouraged by a goalie who played very well.

    Not too many glorious chances, but didn’t give up many either.

    They can’t all be 4-1 victories, even for the great teams.

    What the really good teams in this league do is win the games they are supposed to, even if they aren’t the most glamorous victories. And that’s exactly what the Habs did last night.

    Thought a very solid effort all around, especially given the awful ice.

    • mrhabby says:

      don’t be surprised by the reaction, most are never happy. It was a vg road game.

    • Luke says:

      That game was one of the most boring games I can remember watching. It was dull and not at all entertaining. It got tot he point where I was hoping for a goal from either team to prevent the extra 5 mnuites of torture.

      That said, I’ll take the two points and lament the extra beers I had to consume to get me through it.

    • Habbernak says:

      I couldn’t agree more. They played the way they needed to in order to get the W. And even though there weren’t many goals, there were a lot of good saves! Couldn’t be happier that they are coming back with 4 out of 4 points on that road trip. Now it’s all about Saturday and lord knows we owe the flyers a beat down or 3! GO HABITANTS!

      “I know everything”

  22. Marc10 says:

    All the games are huge this year, but there’s a great opportunity to really stick it to Philly here. I like our chances with the Franchise dialled in goals.

    Carey is looking like the real deal. I can’t wait to see him start in Sotchi.

  23. the Octopus says:

    umm, JB isn’t dead is he???

  24. We here at HI/O love to dream about the monster trades that bring the Getzlafs and Evander Kanes of the league to Montreal. But what about the little tinker trades — the kind that don’t get the headlines but that often make all the difference? So what would you propose?

    A 5th- or 6th-rounder for Erskine? (Tangradi was just dealt for a 7th.)

    With Karlsson hurt, what might Ottawa be willing to part with for Kaberle and change? Could we find a use for Zack Smith or Marc Methot?

    For me, a big strong defensive centre who can win faceoffs and play on the fourth line is at the top of my wishlist. Eller is filling that role admirably, but IMHO there are bigger and brighter roles he could be filling instead. How about a Manny Malhotra type?

    What do you think?

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  25. Timo says:

    Is there any kind of ceremony before the game tomorrow? Cause we all know how those end.

  26. jeffhabfan says:

    I say leave the top line alone it will start to produce.Boring game on bad ice but I will take it. Could win tomorrow night Philly missing like 10 players. GO HABS GO

  27. jmsheehy19 says:

    Didn’t DD play wing for about 40 games or so in his first season up? Or am I misremembering that?

    If that line continues to struggle you could bump him over, give his spot to Eller.

    Something like …

    Patches-Pleky-Gio
    Bourque-Gally-Gally
    DD-Eller-Cole
    Moen-Prust-Armstrong/White

    Would give us 3 very balanced lines, at least on paper.

  28. Timo says:

    Ok, when I finally had a chance to watch the game it was past midnight and I had about a bottle of red in me. So I have a question – did Habs play as badly as I thought they did? I mean, it hardly look menacing from Mtl perspective and there were several periods of time when Panthers just would not let Habs get out of their own end.

    Also looks like Mikey T was shuffling lines a few times during the game.

    Moen was/is brutal – him and Armstrong are moving into Scotty Gomez territory.

    • Dr.Rex says:

      It was a sloppy game especially in the 2nd. But in fairness a large degree of the blame should go towards the ice, lack of fans and poor sound quality from RDS.

      • Timo says:

        It did look like a high school game in terms of attendance, that’s for sure.

        • Dr.Rex says:

          Some of the Panther fans seemed confused who they were supposed to cheer for.

          • Ian Cobb says:

            Every time that I have gone to a game in either the Florida rinks, the place is always half full, and half of that are people wearing HAB sweaters.!
            I say move those franchises to Saskatoon and Halifax and they would sell out.!!

          • mrhabby says:

            lots of interest in halifax/saskatoon…but no money.

          • aquadude says:

            Was at the game here in swamp hockeyland, about 70% of the crowd were habs fans and there was crappy driving weather (relative to SoFlo) that caused redic delays on 595 and turnpike.

            Game was a sleeper except for a few minutes as noted here. DD doesn’t get enough credit for his creativity, vision, hockey IQ and crisp passes. RB deserved 2nd star even if he didn’t eventually pot the winner. Nice to see he is playing for something this year. Cole looked like a fish out of water. Nice to see the boys get 4pts after the thumping last sat.

      • mrhabby says:

        it was a tight checking game and lots of it played between the blue lines..1 and 2 periods..end result was boring play.

      • mrhabby says:

        i hate RDS….Can’t even understand those dummies.

    • lavie says:

      I noticed some original line combinations during the games, Patchy-DD-Cole and Gally-Gally-Prust.

    • Cal says:

      Unhappy the Habs won again, eh Timo? ;)

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      They played quite well actually. Controlled the puck for the majority of the game minus a few sequences in the third where Price stood tall.

      Bad ice meant it was a sloppy, bat at the puck kind of game. And Theo played very well.

      All in all a very solid road game, with the desired result, which is all that really matters.

  29. Loonie says:

    One of the reasons some fans wanted Subban locked up long term, bridge contract be damned was his talent.

    Last night, the individual play he made in the offensive zone is a play that maybe a half dozen defensemen in the league can make.

    He will be a star and a Norris candidate.

    • Timo says:

      That’s now. YOu wait and see how much better he will be when Therrien is done personally developing him.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Good luck to MB at the next PK contract negotiation. I don’t think he will take the home discount a la Markov.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      I was a proponent of locking him up now – long term at a relative discount. However, I do understand why MB wanted the bridge contract.

      Look no further than the contract Phaneuf received after two good seasons. No GM wants to make that mistake.

      Also, I think they wanted to see how his chemistry was with the rest of the team before essentially building “around” PK (in addition to Price and Patch) over the next few years.

      • Loonie says:

        I agree in certain respects. You don’t want to ruin a player by giving them a ton of money. But that’s a huge what if scenario.

        Phaneuf in my view is a bad comparable because quite frankly his only two positive attributes are his shot and physical nature. He doesn’t have the offensive ability to carry the puck all over the zone or up and down the ice at any given moment. His positioning is often lackluster to this day and he consistently makes bone-headed plays. Something that’s never been addressed in his game or rather that he hasn’t improved on.

        Phaneuf actually regressed each year following his rookie season where in contrast Subban improved.

        Apples to oranges in this case.

        Doughty and Myers are more comparable.

        • habs-fan-84 says:

          Re: No doubt Phaneuf and PK are two different players (completely agree). To be fair though, Phaneuf did have 49 and 50 points respectively in his first two seasons.

          My only point was, a GM needs to be hesitant before committing to a player long term early on in their career.

          Frankly, Myers has been a complete disaster (possibly too strong a word) since getting the big bucks. Doughty…not so much.

          Like I said, I would have preferred they locked P.K. up long term now at a relative discount, but I do understand why MB was hesitant to do so.

      • Cal says:

        Meehan doesn’t do “discount” contracts for stars.

  30. Dr.Rex says:

    I think its normal for Habs fans to be overly critical of our team. However spending more time watching other teams rather then just the highlights can really bring things into perspective. Remember critics highlights are exactly that……..just highlights. I will break down a few so called top teams regarding their holes after watching a few contests. This will help put things into perspective.

    a) NYR – OH boy where to start. A mess really. Torts already up to his old old tricks and we are only a quarter way into a shortened season. This will get old fast. Richards is slowing by the game, Rick Nash is not a franchise player that many say he is a McDOnaugh is struggling with his positioning. Not too mention the depth without Prust is lacking and the team in general looks warn out after a long playoff run where Torts overplayed his top players. Only Gaborik looks fresh and he gets benched quite often. MESS

    Los Angeles : Easy to fall into the spell of thinking they are a top team after their magical run. Bottom line Quick has to be A+++ for this team to return to the top. Doughty is a clear concern for all Kings fans and if we had a guy playing sloppy with that contract he would have been Gomezed already. Jeff Carter and Richards look lazy frequently and they seem to have a lack of desire. Still early but far more concerns here then in La Belle Province.

    Winnipeg: Now clearly not a top team but I have seen a few matches and sometimes I have to wonder if this is still a AHL franchise. Pavelec is a above average goalie but is relied on the same way Steve Mason was in Columbus. The defense is decent but certainly not awe inspiring. However the group of forwards is sooo thin that it would make Justin Long look like a fatso. Evander Kane is only forward with star capabilities but the pressure in the Peg seems to be too much to handle. WHen you bring in players like Jokinen, and Ponikorovsky who are inconsistent plugs then you know there are problems. Claude Noel has already squeezed every bit of talent out of this team and I see a bottom three in the east this year. This team has problems.

    When you consider other teams around the league then things start to look pretty sunny in Montreal. I know we are all critics of mediocrity, which we should be but things aren’t as bad as many here make them out to be. Lets not be negative Ned’s all the time and save some time to actually be fans.

    • Loonie says:

      Great post.

      Only thing I disagree with is star potential with the Jets. Alex Burmistrov has all of the tools to become an elite player. But if he doesn’t put them together he’ll remain an average player.

    • Marc10 says:

      Sather made a big mistake in shipping off Dubinsky and not resigning Prust. Rupp didn’t seem to appreciate…

      This is a team in trouble. Richards, Gaborik and Nash could prove anchors for this franchise. They might well blow part of their cup window.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I wonder if LA’s cup win isn’t like our 1993 cup. Mediocre regular season (they were worse than us in that respect barely making the playoffs) followed by a magical run where every player is at his best, plus an insane keeper.

      Also had the advantage of meeting one of the weakest teams from the other conference in the finals (which for us happened to be LA).

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    Brian, Good post, I would like to see 2 more points in the bank Sat. night without giving up a point for a tie. But we are doing fine.

    Did you notice how short the shifts were in the third period?? I could never figure out which line was on at any time.??

    • habstrinifan says:

      Beating Philly, regardless of how they are currently playing and in OT or regulation would be fine with me. I would take a two point shootout just for standings sake but I consider shootout wins low on the totem pole… unless we dominate the game and get stoned by a goalie and then win in shootout.

  32. HabinBurlington says:

    Conversations really are more pleasant here after wins than losses, perhaps not as entertaining, but definitely more pleasant.

    CHeers!

  33. Bripro says:

    Personally, when the year started, I was more optimistic than most regarding our new coach.
    I remember when he was mentoring Crosby and Letang and being interviewed on french TV.
    Then last year, when he was a panelist on RDS, his passion was something I thought was missing from this team.
    Let’s be honest, he didn’t inherit the most talented team, but I agree with you. They’ve done very well with the assets they have.
    He has re-energized Bourque (I was hoping they would get rid of him, but not anymore).
    Price is technically more sound than he was last year.
    The real concern I have is with Cole. I think he’s playing injured.
    But at least over the last couple of games, he’s trying harder.
    I doubt we’re in a position to schedule a parade, but given the new management and philosophies, we’re definitely heading in the right direction.
    As of this morning, we’re in 5 in the Eastern conference, one point behind the Pens, with one game in hand.
    Anyone who would have predicted this at the beginning of this season would have been ridiculed, tarred and feathered for insulting the hockey knowledgeable.
    Not any more.
    I’ll even take snoozers like last night, falling asleep or not…. if it means points in the standings. You can’t ask for more.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I think 80% of fans on here wanted Bourque bought out…..

      Analysts were also calling for it. According to MB him and Eller are the two people call about when it is a trade discussion.

      Cole will get better, don’t worry. He always seems to struggle out of the gate but I thought looked much better the last two games. He will start breaking out next week. Put money on it.

      Max P scares me more this year.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Morning Kooch. There is very little in common that last years Bourque has in common with this years Bourque. I don’t know if he was injured last season or not but man he is a different guy out there for sure.

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        • Les-Habitants says:

          He was, had a abdomen injury that he has surgery on. Only really got off IR like 3 weeks before the lockout ended, so he’s a player that really did benefit from the lockout. Had proper time to get his surgery done, and then rehab.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Two friends who follow other teams more than I, say he’s either hot or cold. Nothing between. Right now he’s hot and lets hope it continues till Max’s returns to style. Personally think Max should not have come back so fast. I know he did it to help the Habs, but rushing back has not really helped him or the Habs to this point. A poster mentioned on the site after Max’s surgury how long his recovery time was and I don’t believe he’s playing anywhere near to par.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

        • BJ says:

          Remember the BS he was traded into. The team was a laughing stock without direction. I liked him then and I like him now. He’s an element we needed, particularly how he is playing now.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          Morning Jim,

          I think it was a combo of many things (crappy team, shock of the trade, injury). I knew he wasn’t as bad as he was last year. He can be inconsistent sometimes but he is a useful fast player

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        “I think 80% of fans on here wanted Bourque bought out…..”

        I never, ever understood this.

        -At 3.3m per, his contract is not even close to being onerous
        -He brought size and grit that this team desperately needed
        -Averaged over his career, he’s essentially a proven 20 goal scorer

        …I just never understood the hate on for this guy…last year I just assumed was an aberration (both for Bourque but also the Habs in general)

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Bri! I agree that 2 points is 2 points. I do have to admit though I ended up with Rangers/Isles on the big screen most of the night. CHeers.

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  34. habstrinifan says:

    Dont want to get into a P.K thread.. just wondering if anyone else thought that last night’s game was most confident looking P.K for a long time. Confidence as in relaxed and doing what he can do ‘flair wise’ but maintaining a workmanline tempo.

    Maybe Therrien gave him pat on the shoulder between last night and last game where P.K was essentially benched last 10 mins of game.

    Just thought he played witha very relaxed confident body language.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      That “dangle” of his on the PP was vintage P.K.
      was a beautiful thing…if only he scored.

      I still think he’ll be given a shot to make the team in Sochi next year…

    • Cal says:

      PK is, for lack of a better term, “getting it”. He played a great game last night with no out-of-focus type of errors. He is playing better and better without the benefit of any proper training camp. The best is yet to come.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I like PK and agree he is looking more comfortable.

      My only knock on him is how often he misses the net….by many feet

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • krob1000 says:

      My only complaint with him lately is his contant rushing of the puck in no win situations where he forces all of his forwards to stop at the blueline….a team is retty easy to stop when they all stop skating and PK did that at least 3 times last night …andthen we dumped it there was noone around to forecheck because they were all standing still at the blueline. Aside from that he was not taking unnecessary risks and is a beast on the puck and is winning his battles again. His first step and ability to protect the puck and fend of a checker to break pressure is as good as it gets in the game I would venture to say…I can’t picture anyone…and I mean that…who does that with such ease. He is so strong and uses his body great to protect the puck. Defensively he was back up to snuff after that lapse the other night…..I doubt you’ll see him make a play like that again under Therrien

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Maybe MT woke up after almost blowing the TB game. PK was on the ice last night in the final minute…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree Trini, he played the style of game in regards to responsibility first that MT seems to want and showed his skills as well.

      Thought he played an excellent game. Perhaps MT isn’t ruining him afterall. ;-)

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    Quick observation from last night: It seemed for the first time in a couple weeks that Galchenyuk was able to get an extra step on the opposition and create some scoring opportunities.

    • habstrinifan says:

      His deftness while battling for the puck amazed me.

      • BrianSkrudland says:

        If you found his play to be impressive, you should see my skills when playing mini-sticks against my 8-year old. Total domination and plenty of trash talking.

        I have found that although my taunts and showboating tear his self-esteem to shreds, my sense of self-worth sky rockets! Does that make me a bad parent?

        ——–
        Wedding Crashers Rule #71: No excuses. Play like a champion!

        • Chuck says:

          As long as there’s no low-fiving, you’re good to go.

          ___________________________________________________
          Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

          • BrianSkrudland says:

            I typically berate him for that sort of selfish activity during my post-game press conferences.

            He may need to watch a game from the sidelines to get his head properly focused on what it takes to be a winner.

            ——–
            Wedding Crashers Rule #71: No excuses. Play like a champion!

        • habstrinifan says:

          Depends…. if you kid has done none of the following you are doing good:

          Punctured your tire.
          Tell his mom about your flirting at the mall.
          Become the neighbourhood’s Dennis the Menace.
          Does a Moore on your Achilles
          Wears ear-plugs under his helmet.
          Calls you P.K. and says you are a cocky and hope that his Mom had married a better person.

          • BrianSkrudland says:

            Ha!

            He hasn’t pulled any of those doozies just yet, but he has nailed me square in the junk with a soccer ball on more than one occasion (and the kid can boot it!).

            His constant reminders that I’m developing a bit of a belly aren’t winning him any bonus points either.

            ——–
            Wedding Crashers Rule #71: No excuses. Play like a champion!

  36. Old Bald Bird says:

    (i) I think part of the angst over some issues such as PK’s and Eller’s playing time has to do with the commentariat being very sensitive due to previous realities in CH land. We tend to assume that personnel decisions will be made poorly and unfairly as in previous yeas. I am guilty of this, but maybe we have turned the page.

    (ii) The same may be true about blown leads. At least part of truth is that we can expect other teams to score a certain amount of goals in a game whenever they come, and a team that is down a few frequently competes harder than when the game is even, as it was last night. We expect blown leads to be a pattern that has carried over, but perhaps it was just a … er … three-off.

    (iii) Why do posters bother to speculate and dream about trades that will never happen?

    (iv) Melnyck’s point is valid, whether or not this is the right time to raise it. How many strikes before you’re out in this league? If he has, indeed, raised the issue before, I can see why he is frustrated.

    (v) There’s no other player on our team that could have made the play that AGally did on the goal. Agree/Disagree?

    • Cal says:

      Just before Karlsson was injured, the puck went into the netting on Pittsburgh’s side of the ice. The play should have been whistled down long before Cooke and Karlsson met up on the boards. Extremely poor officiating, as usual, caused a terrible side effect.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Good post and with regards to point number iii, AMEN Brother!

    • habstrinifan says:

      (v) There’s no other player on our team that could have made the play that AGally did on the goal. Agree/Disagree?…

      Great play but I thiink Eller and P.K both have the size/grit (which was necessary on this play) plus the stick handling skill to do similar plays. Not arguing though that this wa stop notch play

    • (i) Yup — even after some vast upgrades in management staff, we’re loath to give management the benefit of the doubt based on the last few years’ performance. Hopefully a strong season buy the team a little more leash in the fans’ eyes next year.

      (ii) Blown leads are hard to stomach, but an 8-4-2 record is a helluva digestif. : )

      (iii) Because it’s a lot more fun to dream about landing Getzlaf for Kaberle than it is to ponder whether Kristo will finally make the jump from NCAA next year.

      (iv) Yep — Cooke and Raffi Torres both have some skill, but at what point do the dangers of allowing them to play outweigh the benefits?

      (v) Gorgeous play, but there’s a lot of talent even among the fourth-liners of this league. For evidence, check out this incredible between-the-legs shot by Marek Malik of all people, a hulking mammoth with 33 goals in his 691-game NHL career: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x2E1cyTVBA

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • boing007 says:

      v) Saku Koivu.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  37. habfan53 says:

    With all they talk about Eller being a 3rd line or not being a 3rd line centre it made me think of 2 other centers from LOOONG ago
    Donnie Marshall and Phil Goyette both were 3rd and 4th line centers in Montreal that went on to 2nd and 3rd line in New York and in Phil’s case 1 st line with St-Louis.
    Both were very capable penalty killers a skill Lars in growing into more and more .

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  38. arcosenate says:

    Holy crap! The schedule this week (starting tomorrow) is:

    Saturday (H) PHI
    Monday (H) CAR
    Tuesday (V) NYR
    Thursday (H) NYI
    Saturday (H) NYR

    Lots of home games which might be good, but wow, that’s alot of work this week. I think we’ll definitely see some Budaj, White and Kaberle this week.

  39. krob1000 says:

    For those reading Cooke the riot act for a clean hockey play …let us consider our own Ryan White of late……twice in the last 3 weeks he has dropped his gloves and started punching all out at unsuspecting players in no position to defend themselves….should he be out of the game? Bertuzzi will never be forgotten for hsi acts..what is the difference? oh yeah…Bertuzzi didn’t miss several times.
    You can be bitter at Cooke for his past actions and we all know several players play dirty (the attempted knee by Orr was brutal to me,etc) but we live in glass houses…Claude LEmiuex is a hero, Maurice Richard attacked a referee, Patrick Roy is not exactly a role model, Chris Nilan had no issues with uppercutting players on faceoffs while his victims were looking away….the list ges on and on….but oh yeah Matt Cooke is the devil! you all sound like Bobby Boucher’s mom in The Waterboy.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Melnyk might want to remember that Chris Neil plays for his Sens.

    • Cal says:

      Richard attacked a linesman who happened to be pinning his arms behind his back while Hal Laycoe was punching him out.
      The NHL of the 50s and 60s was way more vicious than today. Of course, players were a lot smaller, but they were helmetless, too, which only added to all the blood on the ice. Hockey has never been a game for the feint of heart.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I seem to recall our own team sticking him (White) in the pressbox, I take that as our own team dealing with his decision making. You make a point, but Montreal is not endorsing that style of play.

      • krob1000 says:

        I don’t know about that … I think it was more the 3 untimely pp goals against they were not endorsing….the message was probably …don;t be so crazy unless the time is right

    • Mr. Biter says:

      In White’s defense:
      1 fight after Habs d-man was run at and slammed dangerously from behind into boards. protecting his teamates.
      2nd Orr taking liberties with Gionta and then going after White’s knee same shift same thing. teams have gotten used to doing this when playing the Habs (re. Leafs game) and White’s main job is to see that this does not happen.
      BTW when you hit a player in the back near the boards most players expect retaliation, case in point Wiz vs. Bruins after he slammed a bruin into the boards (When playing as a Hab) turned around dropped his gloves and was waiting for retailation from a bruin and if memory serves me correctly tuned up the bruin in the insuing fight.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

    • No one can say for sure whether Cooke’s action was intentional, so to my mind, you can’t boot him from the league for it. The conversation shouldn’t be about Cooke, but about how many infractions, dirty hits and attempts to injure are too many.

      And to be fair, in the Rocket’s case, the ref bloody well deserved it. : )

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  40. JF says:

    ALN and the comments are a bit flat today. It seems a lot of people get more fun out of a stinker than out of a well-played defensive game; they can go to town on ripping the team, sneering at the coach, and trashing half the players.

    I actually thought the game was good considering how bad the ice surface was. Price was outstanding, but Theodore was sensational. I had to feel for him a bit on the winning goal. His defence screwed up and there was nothing he could do.

    Things I liked:

    The fourth line centred by Eller is very good and more dangerous than most fourth lines. Both Moen and Armstrong look much better playing with Eller.

    Desharnais has been more involved in recent games, going to the net more, and creating chances.

    Cole seems to be regaining his explosive acceleration. We may soon see the Cole we loved last year, barreling through the neutral zone and out-muscling opponents to get to the net. Now if Pacioretty would just get up to speed….

    The play by Galchenyuk on the winning goal was outstanding. He missed his pass, but managed with a huge second effort to get the puck across. And Rene Bourque was exactly where Habs forwards in recent years have rarely positioned themselves – in front of the net.

    A pretty solid road trip, especially after the humiliating beatdown against the Leafs that had us wondering which were the real Habs. The one thing I hope is that, next time we hold a lead going into the third period, the players will focus on keeping the puck in the other team’s zone rather than simply on getting it out of our zone.

      • kbhab4ever says:

        Is it not time to try Eller between Pac & Cole?? Marc B I think made the wrong move in hiring a first year coach to coach the bulldogs.With all the rookies they have they need a experienced teacher to guide them , not someone learning as the year goes. “I ” think its one of the reasons why there doesn’t seem to be much of an inprovement of the rookies,esp, the forwards

        • HabinBurlington says:

          With regards to our coach in Hamilton, yes he is learning, but provided they are happy with how he is developing, I am hopeful the plan is for him to be there for 3-4 years. The consistency is needed, problem with hiring a real veteran coach in Hamilton, is you may lose him in 1-2 years.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Jane – As Mike Boone stated, who ever thought the Habs would start the season 8-4-1? No one, not even MT or MB.

      The DD/Eller debate really isn’t a debate at all. The team has the luxury of four good centres right now. That’s playing from a position of strength. In fact, the “dilemma” helps solve the Habs’ problem in training camp of not really having a 4th line centre.

      Some people lament the fact that White can’t break into the line-up. Or that our 12th forward isn’t up to par (I wonder how good most 12th forwards are on other teams). Others think we should trade for Washington’s 7th defenseman or a goon who trolls in the AHL.

      To me, these are all signs that there’s not much wrong with the team right now. It sure beats this time last year when the Habs were the laughing stock of the NHL.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I still think an injury or two will occur and White and Kabrele and perhaps Weber will be used. Nice problem to have indeed.

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        • Mr. Biter says:

          We have been fortunate indeed not to have had any serious hockey related injuries this year and all 3 will get to play, and if you see with MT, if your winning when your in he mostly does not change the line up.

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

      • Yep, hard to argue with that. It’s been a while since we could say that, while improvements are always possible, we’ve got a pretty decent team here.

        Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

      • Desi says:

        I agree, 24 — but I wonder if our record is also a function of having a pretty easy schedule so far. As we lpay more games against NYR, PIT and BOS, I’m a little fearful that our inability to score goals against better teams is going to show. Hopefully the speed the team has and the puck pursuit and forechecking system that MT has put in place will compensate and we keep the W train moving.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree with this post. In addition to the ice doesn’t the home team have more influence on the tempo of a game since they have the final line change?
      Can I add one think about Galchenyuk? He’s a very strong 18 year old. He does not seem to be out of place in scrubs at all. Last nights assist was a great example if this.
      After last week I was down in the dumps. Today? Smile is returning.
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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Well said. And same re: 24C’s reply.

      The Flyers are ripe for a beating too.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Philly comes into Saturday’s game playing back-to-back on the road from New Jersey. 4th road game of the week for the Flyers. Seven players on the injury list as well as Couturier and Grossman down with the flu.

        Time to skate them into the ground. Throw the puck into Timonen’s corner every chance we get.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Despite our team having 3 games this week we are indeed in a fortunate position to be playing Philly with the schedule they are currently enduring. March presents similar scheduling for the Habs. Tomorrow is almost a must win against the Flyers, if we are going to beat them this year. Agree with your comments to JF also Steve.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      True. The team is winning and progressing. That is all we can ask for in such a shortened season.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Plus +8 : Eller/Prust/Armstrong looks like it’s gonna be a great line …keep it. Best all three players have looked all season.

      Plus 0: didnt see DD as you described.. but I am not a DD basher either. Keeping fingers crossed that line gets going. Same as Cole comment.

      Plus +5 re your Galchenyuk cooment. His stick handling to turn the defenseman and regain was exceptional.

      Plus +3 re focussing on keeping puck in other team’s zone when holdin a lead. While I dont want a passive JM style, I want to see ALL THE D-MEN get more conservative at that point.

      Plus +1 for good post overall.

      Now let me add these up.. 8+0+5+3+1 = +17.

      WOW! Habinburlington was spot on. This is +17. Of course he’s a man of few words as opposed to yours truly.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        LOL, you are a kind man sir!

      • BrianSkrudland says:

        17 is a popular number for me lately. Bourque (17) scored in OT last night and I won some good cash by betting on 17 at the roulette table at the Fallsview Casino on Tuesday night (or was it very early Wednesday morning?).

        Definitely going to try my luck on 17 with Lotto 649 this weekend. Now I just need to figure out the other numbers I’ll need to win big!

        ——–
        Wedding Crashers Rule #71: No excuses. Play like a champion!

  41. t1tan5 says:

    Somebody already mentioned this, but last year the Habs consistently lost these crappy boring yet close games. If a team can win even when they have an off night, it’s certainly a good thing.

  42. Whatever says:

    Surprised me last night while watching a stream of the Florida feed, was a reporter interviewing the players on the bench during a tv timeout. I’ve seen dumbass McGuire interviewing the coaches, during the game, but the players? As a coach of a team, no way I allow that. Guess you gotta do what you gotta do to get interest in the team in Florida. Seems to be working…lol.

  43. PatMac says:

    Eller and Beaulieu plus this year’s 2nd round pick for Gudbranson. What do you think?

  44. bleedhabs81 says:

    Is it time for me to cave and get RDS?

    I was listening to the game on TSN and they were discussing Florida’s strategy. What I found interesting was, they said Florida is playing the way they want to, like a road game. Keep things bottled up, keep the crowd out of it.

    Keep the crowd out of it. Aren’t they at home… oh wait…

    It is quite sad when the biggest draw of fans is brought about by a visiting team who is located more than a few hundred kilometers away and in a different country.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      It’s worth it so you can watch every habs game. Do yourself a favor and don’t tune into Antichambre, unless there’s a credible guest on, the panel will actually make you dumber.

      Anyone else notice diehard Huberdeau coverage both times they’ve played florida this year?

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        Steeltown,

        Sorry, I should have put more context.

        I have been an RDS subscriber for years and usually watch 70+ games (thanks to PVR), but this year I told my wife I was not going to spend money on Hockey…. that was before hockey came back and I forgave it like a silly teenage girl does with a d-bag boyfriend.

        Thing is, I now regularly follow Boone’s gamecast, and this new play by play feature to get my fix… so I should probably just break down and pay for it.

        Also, watching Anti-chambre is not a problem. My french is poor and by the time I figure out what they are talking about they are on to a new topic. Basically, in French I can order food, ask simple questions to store merchants, and follow the play by play from the kitchen as I get a beer.

    • Habs_Norway says:

      Hello! one question: do RDS offer webstreaming, or is it only on the telly?
      And is there a site where the attendance is written? Like hockeydb? (they dont have for each game) – because i think there was more people at my club in Norway’s game, than in Florida yesterday..
      Move FP to Quebec and let them keep Tampa? Thumbs up.

      ______________________________________
      Say no to visors and sign Emelin for 10 years

  45. Prust for PM says:

    Note that the Club Red tickets were available for $80 to “loyal” Panthers’ fans. The whole Club Red concept is foolishness that was bred last season by the Panthers’ first playoff round in 11 years. They also reinstituted parking charges of $20 after no charge parking for years.

    Like most non-Canadian teams the Panthers’ “real” problem selling tickets was that the lock-out killed their chance to develop Corporate sales and ticket packages; no time to create Marketing plans. The Panthers don’t have the luxury of having a season ticket waiting list of 4,000 people like the Habs.

    Worse, people confuse attendance with ticket sales. Tons of their tickets are freebies or sold 30-50% below face value. There’s a fair bit of profit in selling 24 oz. beers for $14.

    Loyal Canadiens fans should travel to Long Island, Phoenix & Sunrise. Tons of cheap seats-and sunshine at the latter 2 destinations.

    Cannonading drive!!

    • Mr. Biter says:

      And damn warmer at this time of the year. Who knows next year when the Habs are down playing Bolts and Panthers, fly down to Orlando rent a car, drive to Tampa watch the game there, then off to Fort lauderdale for the game in Sunrise then spend the rest of the week in the sun. Not a bad thought. Tourism is still down in Lauderdale so hotel rates are quite cheap for a nice small beach front hotel.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  46. rhino514 says:

    I still think the team´s confidence when it comes to holding leads is fragile; the game against Boston hurt, as did the previous game against the Devils.
    I am glad they have a good record so far and i can see the players play with effort and heart, but having to go to overtime or shootouts against the florida teams in order to win…What happens when we play real contenders?
    On the flip side there is so much parity in the league that the team becomes just a bit more solid it may be just enough to get them on the right side of those one goal games with the good teams.
    They are not there yet. Keep in mind that Boston, Buffalo, and Ottawa had serious injuries and we had a tough time. We however have been fortuitously healthy for once; so we should have had an edge playing those teams.

    • “What happens when we play real contenders?”

      Well, we only lost by one goal to Boston, and that was only the Habs’ B game. I’m not saying this team is great — but is is certainly competitive. Everybody has a couple of embarrassing blowouts per season. But 8-4-2, even against a few so-so teams, is impressive in the best league in the world.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Phil C says:

      Theodore played awesome last night. He was not going to be beat on any shot he could see, so that gives any team a chance against anybody. On the other side of the puck, the Habs gave up very few good chances to Florida.

      They are also learning new systems. They seem to have the team defense thing down pretty good at this point, but the offense is still not quite there, but it is showing signs of life.

      • Clay says:

        Yeah, no one here but you giving props to Theodore, but he was stellar last night. Credit where it’s due…a season playing like that every game would win him another Vezina.

        __________________________
        ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

  47. rhino514 says:

    Hey, you know that game would never have gone into overtime if we just let Eller play 30 minutes doubleshifting on the top two lines, I bet he would´ve had a point. Forget DD; Eller skates so nice and smooth the other team would think they´re watching a figure skating competition and become heavily distracted.

  48. krob1000 says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=416046
    melnyk off the deep end re karlsson/Cooke…yikes

    • Can’t say I’m certain that was intentional, but Melnyk asks a fair question: how many times does a guy have to be suspended for brutal dangerous plays before the league decides he can’t play anymore?

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Clay says:

      He’s right – Cooke should not be allowed to play in the league. He’s a dirty SOB with no talent.

      __________________________
      ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

    • Phil C says:

      Melnyk has a good point about ignoring intent. Another poster made this point yesterday in that if you injure a guy with a high stick, it’s a penalty regardless of whether or not it was intentional.

      If you purposely lift your skate off the ice then subsequently cut someone, it should also be a penalty, IMO.

      • krob1000 says:

        You lift your skates off the ice every time you take a stride…..if womeone fell and you were about to make a vstart you would stomp someone too….guys jump over players all the time,etc…..
        If they want to make a rule like that then fine…but Cooke did what has always been done and did nothing wrong…this time.
        What is next..if you shoot a puck too high and hit them you are suspended (there is a delay of game penalty for shooting high too)…..it was an unfortunate accident. IF Karlsson’s skate had sliced Cooke noone would be having this discussion and sad as it is people would be applauding it.

        • Clay says:

          I agree that it was an accident. I just don’t think Cooke should be in the league for what he has done before this incident. Too many good players have missed a lot of time because of this idiot.

          __________________________
          ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

        • Phil C says:

          Big difference between lifting your skate to make a stride and picking up your leg in an attempt to contain a player because you are no longer allowed to clutch and grab. It is obviously a dangerous move.

          The stride thing is different, just like accidental high sticks are permitted if it is the result of a normal follow through on a shot.

          • krob1000 says:

            Pinning a player was always a part of the ame…een in the clutch and grab days…it is defense 101 and taught to minor hockey players in clinics across the country every year. It is a standard play…there is absolutely nothing ominous about the play at all.

          • Phil C says:

            I’m not saying lifting your leg be illegal, just like lifting your stick to head height is not illegal. But if you cut someone doing it, even accidentally, it should be a penalty. A little more accountability considering the seriousness of the injury.

            We’ll have to disagree on the ominousness of the play. I thought Cooke was reckless with his skate. The other examples Aaron Ward showed of players lifting their leg to pin a guy, they were much more in control with their skate.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Gary Bettman will now reprimand Melnyk just as he chastised Molson for speaking out (less vehemently) over the Chara “hockey play”.

      In the end, Melnyk will receive more punishment than Cooke, and this will be just in Bettmans eyes.

      • krob1000 says:

        as it should be….Cooke did nothing wrong….Melnyk did in speaking out. This speech is two years too late…Chris NEil has been far more dangerous than Cooke int he last 2 years…
        The way Melnyk just spoke out was not how an owner should be publicly speaking …..at owners meetings or gm meetings upon his instruction behind closed doors let it fly.
        Cooke already is on an Avery watch and has done everything asked of him….it was not a dirty play at all.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Gerald – I don’t think anyone can clearly state that Cooke intentionally tried to hurt Karlsson. I watched it many times and still think it was accidental.

        It’s an equipment issue more than a hockey play.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      He should be mad at the terrible refs who missed the puck hitting the mesh earlier in the play. Now he is complaining about Cooke?! When it is his player, time to complain. When Savard’s career gets ruined, nothing. Being an owner in this league that has done nothing for years; he has become a hypocrite now. Cooke should not be playing in the NHL but he is partially responsible for that…and he knows it.

  49. Sportfan says:

    Well I wasn’t expecting it to be a 1-0 game but I am glad the habs won thats 2 in a row and for everyone he thought the end is near we are still doing well in the standings. A new true test of course is the Flyers kind of excited to see how that turns out.

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Exactly. The Habs won a game they were supposed to win. That is the big difference this year so far. The first step to making the playoffs is to get in contention by winning these games. The next step is to get in by winning some tough games like the Flyers game Saturday. We’ll see if they have learned anything from the TO game. We’re 1/4 of the way in and we have still not seen the real big tests: on the road in NY, Phil, Pit, Bos and TO.

  50. HabinBurlington says:

    The Lars Eller Debate:
    I think this whole notion of Lars Eller being mis-used could be misinterpretation. I will try and explain why I think this way.

    We have 5 Centers currently on our Roster healthy, Plex, DD, Eller, Galchenyuk and White. Of these 5 only 1 stands out as an obvious prototypical 4th liner and that is White. Plex is able to play 1st, 2nd or Shutdown line center with his talents and experience. Also as a veteran of this team he is deserving of being no less than 2nd line center. Galchenyuk is an experiment, and with such incredible raw elite skillsets, he has to be on a line with somewhat talented wingers in order to be effective at a role which he will have for the duration of his career, that is a scoring centerman.

    This leaves us with DD and Eller. DD is talented and most likely only effective as a centerman on a scoring line, and probably/most likely needs some insulation by way of larger wingers (this is not an insult or a dig, but my perceived reality) which he currently receives. To put DD on a line with the intention of being a checking or grinding line would be a complete waste of what DD brings to the ice.

    Eller on the other hand has the physical tools and skillsets to be a 4th line center, 3rd line center and in my opinion a 2nd line center or perhaps better described a center on a scoring line just as DD currently is. Having said that, if Eller were to be placed on one of the top 2 lines as a center, White then must draw in to the lineup as the 4th line center. ALso DD or Galchenyuk must be taken off a line.

    MT in my opinion is currently utilizing the only option available to him in order to utilize all the best players currently available to him.

    This is not a knock on Eller, but perhaps a compliment to him for how diversified his game is. Granted this can’t go on for a full season or longer as naturally Eller will become frustrated at being “pigeonholed” as the defacto 4th line sometimes 3rd line centerman, as he deserves a chance to be more. But until MB has a good look at this roster and evaluate the talent, I suspect MT is doing the best he can with what he has.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Everything your saying is well put. But if Eller makes a line better then DD we should use him. DD can sit a game to two to wake up exactly as Eller did.

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      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I don’t disagree with you, I am just thinking that both MT and MB are evaluating still. Eventually a decision will have to be made, as Eller cannot remain a 4th line center with part time duties elsewhere. But in the meantime he makes our 4th line very very effective.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Why sit DD when all you have to replace him with is White, who has proven to be more of a liability this season than a useful addition?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Perhaps though Matty in a game against a Toronto or Boston, White should center 4th line, let Eller take DD’s place and see what happens. What happens to DD if he is sat for a game, does magic powder fall out of his pockets and he forgets how to skate? This isn’t about being anti DD, but rather lets experiment!

          • Clay says:

            “Magic powder” !!! :D

            __________________________
            ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

          • Mattyleg says:

            I’m skeptical about experiments which involve substituting good players for less good players.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • HabinBurlington says:

            @Matty, sometimes it is more about getting players in the right roles in order to be effective. Boston sat Seguin many games his rookie year and Shawn Thornton played in those games. Was Thornton better? No, but fulfilled a role.

            I just don’t think DD is so special that he can’t take a turn eating those wonderful Lafleur hot dogs!

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          White played really well this year aside from the bad penalties. He’s worlds better than Armstrong, and if you’re watching this year alone Moen as well. He can provide good 4th line minutes and PK time. Best faceoff % on the team as well.

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          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • Phil C says:

        That would also mean White drawing back in. I think part of the point above is that:

        DD (2nd) + Eller (4th) > Eller (2nd) + White (4th)

        In the end, it’s about the team first.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Exactly Phil, however, as I responded to Matty, I would not be adverse to MT experimenting with Eller on 2nd White on 4th and DD eats a hot dog for a game or two. But for now, MT is trying to find a way to play all of his best players.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Fair enough.
      Good take on the situation. Eller’s situation is similar to that of Cody Hodgson’s in Vancouver last year imo. There was no way he was getting ahead of Kessler and Sedin on the depth chart anytime soon. Hodgson was relegated to playing a lesser role than he would otherwise be playing on almost any other team.

      Vancouver and Buffalo made a trade that identified a perceived weaknesses on their respective team.

      That said, I hope Eller is here for a long time. As Pleks gets older, we’ll have someone waiting in the wings ready to play a similar role.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Except I don’t think DD is miles ahead of Eller, but rather using DD elsewhere is pointless.

        • habs-fan-84 says:

          Completely agree.
          The similarity, as I see it, is simply that of a young player who is “stuck” playing a position he wouldn’t really be “in”, on almost any other team. It’s simply a result of the current “make up” of this Habs team.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      It’s not a perfect situation, but I think Eller is close to getting enough ice time and recognition right now. I do think he has a pretty high ceiling, however. On a team without AGally he might be able to someday centre a first line if the supporting cast were strong — as I presume they would be.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I agree with you.
      I’ve been very impressed with Eller recently, and here’s somehting else that we have going for us:

      Eller’s size helps him fulfill traditional 4th-line duties (as you mention) BUT his sick skilzz make our 4th line a hell of a lot more dangerous than any other traditional 4th line.

      Has anyone noticed how much more dangerous T-Mo has looked since Eller’s come to life? He’s playing with more confidence and is regaining his past form – taking the puck to the net, taking shots…

      Eller is perfectly used where he is. It’s not, as you say, Burly, a knock on him. If nothing else, it gives the 4th line more time on the ice, which is beneficial to the top lines!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Exactly. And don’t forget that the Bruins 4th line centre is Daniel Paille.

        Eller could be that player – for now.

        If he turns into Mats Sundin at some point he can move up to the top two.

    • Rad says:

      I feel pretty good about having Pleks, Galchenyuk, and Eller as our top 3 centers going forward. Eller and Galchenyuk give us size up the middle, something this team has always lacked. Pleks gives us a little bit of everything. That leaves David Desharnais. He is crafty, but size will always be an issue with him. He is expendable. The question is, how marketable is he …. what can he fetch in a trade? And I have no answer to that question.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      I agree. The logjam of centers leads to the question of whether management has a plan to turn one of these assets into a more serviceable player via trade. I realize most seem to think that the trade market is sluggish but it seems to me the perfect time to prey upon some other team’s poor start and turn an excess center into something more useful.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      It seems that in this NHL, your best centermen have to be strong two way players in order to win: Kopitar, M&B Richards, Giroux, Toews, Crosby, Bergeron, Staal, Datsyk etc. DD does not fit in this category. The question is do the Habs want to compete or do the want to win the Cup? There is really no Eller debate as long as he gets playing time. If he works hard, which is he doing, he will shine because he brings size up the middle. I don’t think the decision of Eller’s future will be made this year. He has one year left @1.3 million which is a bargain. Why do you think teams are interested in him? I can’t see the Habs trading him unless it is a larger deal for a big player.

      The main center issue is DD’s expiring contract. They have to give him playing time for him to prove he is worthy of another contract. MB politically won’t be able to let him go without having given him all the chances in the world. I can only see DD staying as a speciality player (PP and shootouts). We’ll see…

  51. frontenac1 says:

    So ,we are sitting in 5th place with a game in hand on some teams. Pretty good so far,but Jersey in First and Buffalo in the basement?

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Feels good. I’d attribute our standing to the team being healthy for once, and Gallagher and Galchenyuk forcing themselves onto the roster who were a big part of the early success this season.

      The system this year is more suited to the players but personnel issues are still there. PK should be the uncontested TOI leader playing with Gorges. Bouillon and Diaz would be fine handling 3rd pairing minutes and use on special teams.

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      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Buffalo in the basement seems about right to me (Myers was highly overrated imo)…
      New Jersey was of course in the Cup finals last year…

      not really surprising.

  52. Ian Cobb says:

    This comment goes out to all those who are saying that lines need to be changed, that Patches line is not producing, as well as other lines not scoring.

    But I disagree. There is two parts to a hockey game! one is in keeping the puck in the oppositions end and trying to fill their net with shots.
    The other part to the game is coming back into our end, competing for the puck, and keeping it out of our net.

    So as long as we win the game, especially on the road, I give full marks to the coach and the lines as they are. Especially when they have worked all night and kept the puck out of our net for a shutout.

    During our three game losing streak I have been somewhat critical of the coaching. But with us being 8 and 4, I should be more congratulatory. I’ll take 75% anytime! Its funny that most of us are never content when we are below 100%, including myself!

    And yes, we have stiffer competition coming up, but we are also getting better each game.!

  53. the Octopus says:

    If Tinordi winds up to be a Gundbradson type player, this team will be one step closer to contending.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Gudbranson was a 3rd overall pick for a reason, kid is an absolute beast. Tinordi will be good player but that’s really high hopes.

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      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  54. munch17 says:

    Last night was DD’s best game in a while ( other than terrible give-away that led to two on one) – and this was as soft a game as possible. And still no points.
    Eller created more chances on 4th line with muckers.
    Against Philly – DD will be ineffective again.
    When will Eller be given his chance to succeed?

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Classic MT, praises Eller game after game than keeps him stuck on the 4th. Talks about accountability, yet it only exists for White, Eller and Subban.

      Imagine if Ellers name was Desharnais and we had this big center, 1st round pick, playing well and given no shot to succeed as an offensive player. The city would be in turmoil.

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      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • Cal says:

      If you want the team your way, play NHL13. Unrelenting criticism for a team at 8-4-1 after finishing 3rd worst in the league last season is, to be honest, being stubbornly blind.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Not criticizing the team. Of course I would take this standing had I been told in advance, but to question the burying of players who could be a big part of the teams future isn’t out of line.

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        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • Cal says:

          MT is handling Eller exactly the right way. This is the best stretch of consistently good and determined play I have seen from Eller since he was traded for. MT wouldn’t make Eller or PK so accountable if he didn’t think they had a huge upside. White’s upside is as a very limited 4th line energy guy. Kaberle and Weber have the most to bitch about, but, for the moment, both of them aren’t good enough to be regulars.

          http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

  55. habs-hampton says:

    If they keep playing games on that crap they call ice in Miami, there’ll be more scoreless games. I don’t know how anybody can play on that. How many decent passes did you guys see last night? Nonbody could stickhandle. I haven’t seen a puck bounce that bad since I watched the Mem Cup in Shawinigan last May.

  56. HabFanSince72 says:

    Am I getting soft in my old age? I felt bad for Theo when Bourque scored. He played a hell of a game.

  57. OMG says:

    If they don’t move Eller up to the 2nd line. They’ll never know what he can really do. 4th line is for the bangers with very little production. They are good at what they do. I hear how good this Eller Guy could be. Let’s see it. Don’t hold him back.

    I hope the Habs are not taking this game against Philly tomorrow as a shoo in because they played 4-games this week. Philly will come to play and the Habs had better be ready from the drop of the puck ….

  58. ed says:

    speaking of “recycling is remaking”, Stu should consider recycling his current tech team,- and remaking them into an effective unit.

    virtually every day there is another glitch on this site.

    you need a masters degree to get on the site today.

    That’s why no one is posting.

  59. 24 Cups says:

    Philadelphia plays four road games this week. In fact, they play in Jersey tonight while the Habs rest. Saturday’s game is number four on the road this week for Philly. The huge advantage for Montreal is that they get to play Price in all three games this week.

    Next start for Budaj should be on Tuesday.

    • Say Ash says:

      Should be never!

      • 24 Cups says:

        LOL. Assuming that the Habs don’t want Price to play back-to-back games (or four times in one week), it would appear that Budaj will start six more contests this season.

    • ed says:

      I am having a problem with this whole “resting Price” concept.
      I was not one of the posters who came on here absolving Budaj of any and all blame last game.
      He is not strong around his crease, and he is out of position once he goes down.

      If Habs beat Philly, I would not change goalies.

      I keep the winning going and ride Price as long as it continues.

      That’s just my take.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Would you play Price 3 nights out of 4? Or even 4 nights out of 6?

        I’m with you to a certain extent – I think he can do it.

        • ed says:

          if there is a problem with his health, obviously that would change everything.

          but if he’s healthy I would let him play.

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            fatigue or over playing someone can lead to injuries.

            It is a fine line, and I have no idea what the answer is. I am with you, Ed. I would like to see Price play as many games as possible… as long as he doesn’t get hurt.

            However, if the playoffs look like a possibility, I would hate to have him drain the tank before playing Game #1 in May (whoah, that sounds weird)

  60. Ozmodiar says:

    It’s an autograph signing, but only adults can go. No kids allowed.

    So, I gotta ask – what’s the point?

  61. HabFanSince72 says:

    Thread confusion.

    Where do we go to suggest line combos?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Looks like Stubbs gave Boone a polite bump and re-issued the bigger news, Armstrong Autograph session!

    • BJ says:

      I’d like to see Prust back with the kids. Desharnais line as last year (let him play until they produce), Markov and Diaz on the first wave of the PP. Our best line with Plekanec status quo and fourth line doing very well as it is. We are 8-4-1 in 13 games. I think most of us would have taken that, had we been offered it at the start of the season.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        DD line has gotten enough opportunities, time to reward the players actually playing well with more ice Re: Gallagher, Eller

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        • BJ says:

          I think the coaching staff has done a good job so far with ice time education with the kids. And Eller on the 4th is getting his share on that line + PK time, he’s making that line also a valuable contributor. We are winning more than we are losing, so I don’t see the need to tinker with the lines and ice time.

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            Eller is making the 4th line better ya, but he could be a big help to 2 of the top 3 units that are struggling.

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        • HabFanSince72 says:

          You won’t have noticed but Eller and Gallagher were both fairly poor last night. Eller a bit better because he’s at least defensively sound. Gallagher looking more and more out of his element.

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            What games have you been watching? Gallagher looks more in his element than Galchenyuk, and that’s not a knock at Galchenyuk. Gallagher finds a way to create and be involved every shift.

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          • HabFanSince72 says:

            I was referring to last night (the hint was in the words “last night”). Gallagher was often falling down and rarely on the puck. Overall I love the kid but he had difficulty last night.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Pointless comment #34635

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  62. Phil C says:

    A lot of people have been ripping on Armstrong. I was one of them after the first couple of games. He skating was awful at the beginning of the season, like he was breaking in new skates. Now his stride is getting a little longer and his speed seems better.

    But after having watched him live, I have more appreciation for his game. He anticipates and reads the play very well, so he is often in the right spot. This would explain why he can catch guys with their head down and why he has had so many breakaways this year from turnovers. I never really noticed that watching on TV. If he can get his legs going a little more, he could turn out to be a very useful player. The coaches must know he has more to give because they have been very patient with him. He can’t be that good in the room. ;-)

    • HabinBurlington says:

      He is doing nothing to hurt the team, the 4th line has become one of our most reliable lines. Looks to me like Moen is hurt, or appears that way. I would suggest White in for Moen tomorrow night.

    • Strummer says:

      This why coaches don’t work from home in front of their televisions.

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  63. Old Bald Bird says:

    I wish ALN wasn’t buried so early.

  64. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning all. Have to admit that last nights Hab game compelled me to move it to the small screen as the Islander-Ranger game was more entertaining. Very happy with the two points of course but many games in the NHL thus far this season resemble what we saw last night. Maybe it’s the shortened season, the loser point, no training camp or all of the above but the quality of play many nights is leaving a lot to be desired. I don’t blame the Hab’s for the 2 periods of a snoozefest though. The home team with the last line change has the ability to control the tempo and Florida obviously was not interested in a up and down game last night. It looked like they were playing for the loser point at home and if not for Jose they wouldn’t have gotten that.

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  65. Propwash says:

    Did you guys hear about the meteorite that fell in Russia? Pretty intense stuff, don’t watch the videos with headphones on…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/15/meteorite-explodes-over-russian-urals-live-updates

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  66. BJ says:

    Anyone else notice last night the mostly empty seats, four full sections behind the team benches. At first I thought those sections were quarantined, but I saw no yellow suits, so I assume its because of the teams poor performance so far this season or is it another team that should be moving north?

  67. savethepuck says:

    Wow 1 of my comments actually got posted. As a 2 finger typer, it’s very frustrating to put a couple of sentences together, only to have it not registered because of too much traffic not being able to be handled by the server. I think it may be all the band Wagon posters jumping back on tonight and clogging things up.

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  68. savethepuck says:

    Considering most of the comments here I read about Armstrong, I can’t see many going there to see him. Personally, I think he’s a 4th line grinder killing penalties and while I’m watching the games, I never say WOW, but I never yell ffs either when he’s on the ice. I have absolutely no problem with that, and therefore no complaints. It’s a case of either unrealistic expectations of him or the fact there’s bias as him as a former Leaf ( which I admit I’ve been guilty of in the past too )

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  69. PrimeTime says:

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  70. habsfan0 says:

    Habs win,Laffs lose,and my friend about to disembark Carnival Cruise ship Triumph. He’s not too pleased. CJAD will interview him tomorrow @4pm.

  71. Marc10 says:

    Can’t wait for Philly. Briere and Giroux… The D will get a workout.

  72. Say Ash says:

    When is HIO gonna move this web site off of Boone’s basement Amiga?

  73. OMG says:

    Saturday should be a Barn burner. Philly in town. Hope the Habs send them home early.

  74. Trisomy 21 says:

    First just like where the Habs are going to finish!!!

    I kid but nice to see Price finally get his first shutout this season

  75. Habfan10912 says:

    Loser point is easier for me to type then “Teams receive 1 point for a regulation tie, just as they did before regular season overtime was established. They play the overtime (and possible shoot out) for the extra point.” :)
    Maybe I should just call it “the point.”

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  76. Phil C says:

    “There is no “loser point”.”

    The losers of the game, who get a point = loser point. Seems pretty straight forward to me…

  77. Cal says:

    Loser point works for me.

  78. Ozmodiar says:

    It’s not “loser point”.

    It’s “The Loser Point”.

  79. HabinBurlington says:

    I believe you need to play this sound bite first and then and only then can you say “The Loser Point”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bfNedTGSU4

  80. Hobie Hansen says:

    He is better, he has 6pts in 7 games! Hats off to Mike Therrien!

  81. Whatever says:

    The game clearly isn’t over yet. How does Subban know he scored the winning goal? Arrogant ass.

  82. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    He might not be as much of an idiot as you think. Doesn’t he get money from other teams if his revenues are not at a certain level? Maybe he is better off not selling those seats? I’m not sure but he is a crap owner nevertheless..

  83. HabFanSince72 says:

    There will be injuries.

  84. commandant says:

    Do you think all 6 of our defencemen are going to be healthy for the entire season?

    Yes you need to trade 1 of the guys, but you can’t trade every piece of depth you have.

    Kaberle is too expensive and needs to go.

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  85. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Simple question: If you were a GM, would you trade for Kaberle? There’s your answer…

  86. HabinBurlington says:

    And when there are, I would rather see St. Denis get the call. Plus with his last name, we can then trade DD. ;-)

  87. Stevie.Ray says:

    Ottawa needs an offensive defenseman. They can buy him out at the end of the year

  88. dorvalhabsfan says:

    But people should also realize, and i will imagine most will agree, is that Kaberle has minimal trade value… If we thought we overpaid for him last year, how will we get anything exciting as a return. He’s too expensive, too old, lacks any form of physicality and doesn’t produce, he would, I imagine, be worth a conditional draft pick

    Go Habs Go

  89. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Thanks!

  90. Hobie Hansen says:

    Don’t be a hater now!

  91. Well that escalated quickly!

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  92. The Jackal says:

    Would you perform elenchus?

  93. HardHabits says:

    I am surprised you didn’t ask if he’d like to felch him.

  94. Kooch7800 says:

    good point

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  95. Kooch7800 says:

    That is when I knew the Habs were scrapping the barrel last year. When that trade was announced I was like WHY?

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  96. dorvalhabsfan says:

    conditional draft pick is what i would trade for him

    Go Habs Go

  97. jols101 says:

    Your second line would get demolished in corner battles and ground into the ice after a few games.

  98. Hobie Hansen says:

    Your third line would get demolished in corner battles and ground into the ice after a few games.

  99. jols101 says:

    Your line combos are as good as the next guys but if I were coach I would keep DD, Gionta and Gally on different lines. Having 2 5 ’7 guys on the same line in the NHL is a problem.

  100. Marc10 says:

    The lockout has obviously had an effect. The line between star and average player is also a lot closer… And you’re talking Hall of Famers there matey. Lafleur is a Demi-God and Shutt one of the greatest wingers the game has ever seen. We get half those players from Cole or Patches, we’d be first in the Conference.

  101. Habfan17 says:

    I agree, yesterday was the first time I saw Subban actually rush the puck. I am not saying that Therrien and the coaching staff don’t have anything to do with Subban’s play. But so far, he has not looked as confident as last season and that I lay at Therrien’s feet. It is one thing to demand a team concept, it is another to take away the things that make Subban special on the ice.

    I am not saying Subban is in any way comparable to Bobby Orr, but one thing I did see in a bio on Orr, was the coaches from Boston saying, we new he would make mistakes, but why harness the kid, he can get back when he screws up and he will learn by doing.

    That is what Subban needs to do, Harnessing him hurts the team more than the few mistakes he will make if he is let to do what he does best.

    Habfan17


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