Price will start against Hurricanes; Subban NHL’s second star for March

The Canadiens held an optional skate Monday morning as they prepare to face the Carolina Hurricanes Monday night at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., RDS, TSN Radio 690).

It will be the 300th career NHL start for Price, who is coming off a 3-0 shutout win over the New York Rangers on Saturday. Price has a 17-6-4 record this season and ranks 15th in the NHL in goals-against average (2.28) and 24th in save percentage (.915).

Meanwhile, P.K. Subban has been named the NHL’s second star for the month of March behind Sidney Crosby. Subban led all NHL defencemen with 18 points (7-11-18) in 14 games and collected points in nine of 14 games in March. Subban leads all NHL defencemen with 10 goals and ranks third in points with 27 in 28 games.

Crosby led all NHL scorers in March with 6-19-25 totals in 15 games as the Penguins became the first team in NHL history to post a perfect record for a calendar month (minimum 10 games). Crosby is now out of the Penguins lineup indefinitely after suffering a broken jaw Saturday after being hit in the mouth with a shot during a win against the New York Islanders.

Rene Bourque (concussion) and Ryan White (ankle) skated with Canadiens strength and conditioning coach Pierre Allard before joining their teammates for Monday’s morning skate. Players not taking part in the optional skate were Price, Tomas Plekanec, Max Pacioretty, Michael Ryder, Lars Eller, Travis Moen and Francis Bouillon.

The Canadiens also announced that forward Olivier Archambault, the team’s fourth-round pick at the 2011 NHL entry draft, will join the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs on an amateur tryout.

(Photo by Dave Sidaway/The Gazette)


  1. Danno says:

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  2. shiram says:

    Habs should add Paul Mara.
    6’4” 220lbs of North American Grit, former first round pick, and his beard would do wonders for the playoff push.

    Discuss in the new thread!

  3. blu3chip says:

    Habs ranked second in league by 😀|NHL|home

  4. Strummer says:

    ” Price has a 17-6-4 record this season and ranks 15th in the NHL in goals-against average (2.28) and 24th in save percentage (.915).”

    Congratulations Pricer on a job- DONE!

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Rankings in goalie stats are a bit misleading…if Price’s save % goes up .05, he’s in the top ten. Same if his GAA drops .08

      Third in wins, T4 in shutouts 😉

      • Strummer says:

        These stats are curious when you consider habs are tied for 5th in GAA

        “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

        • halifaxhab says:

          He leads all goalies in WINS….hes played solid all year, just like the rest of the team. Whats with all the butthurt over Price anyway….Halak the saviour is gone. Get over it.

          I love Barry Manilow .

          -Scotty Bowman

      • Stevie.Ray says:

        Couple weeks ago, if you eliminated the two worst games price had – 7-6 to pit, and 6-0 to TOR – he would be in the top 5 in both stats. Outliers really skew the data in a shortened season

  5. johnnylarue says:

    @Loonie, who wrote, “I’m a damn broken record but I reiterate again that this team allows too many dirty goals. Far too many deflections, screens and rebounds resulting in opposing goals.”

    For the record, we’re totally in agreement re: the need for a tough, depth defenseman, to help with the PK and certain perceived pugilistic deficiencies. That said:

    I would argue that 3/4 of the goals scored in the league fit your description these days. The most obvious recipe for goals nowadays is to shoot from the point and look for lucky bounces and deflections. And the Habs are what–5th in the league in goals against? I can’t see how we’re doing too much worse than anyone else in this area, anecdotally speaking. (I reserve the right to be totally wrong.)

    For my money, the most glaring weakness in the D-zone is entirely systems-related. The Swarm® has been pretty effective for us so far–when it works, the puck leaves the D-zone very quickly and scoring chances against basically don’t happen at all. When it doesn’t, it often leaves an opposing player wide open in an outrageously good spot–which is something I’ve noticed happening a lot this season. It’s a high-stakes defensive model.

    I’m all for beefing up the D, but that beefy crease-clearing D-man is also going to be directed to leave the front of the net to swarm the puck when it’s on the boards, just as all our other D currently do.

    So clearing the crease is important, but I think mastering The Swarm® is even more so. And that’s more a matter of developing the “hive mind” aspect of our team play than increasing the overall ratio of pounds:players in the D-zone.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Let’s not forget we’re third in the conference in goals against too…must be doing something right 🙂

    • krob1000 says:

      lol as tongue in cheek as that is it is actually partially true and growing more true every day.
      Today dmen front guys and leave them alone in behind them, their first objective is to block the shot and tehn tehy are expected to be able to turn and tie up a stick from behind. The points are often left open and teams collapse and do try to outnumber for rebounds. The size is more effective for reach, times when someone needs to be flattened and the penalty may be worth it,being strong enough to win puck battles,etc

      In todays game the advantage goes to Gallagher in front…he can handle pucks in tight better than a larger guy but doesn’t provide the same screen. He sometimes gets flattened where a bigger guy may be able to stand in their and take a few of the whacks before going down but he manages to get a hold of more pucks. Gionta does a lot of this too…more in his younger years but he is very good in front too.
      The team could still use a big guy who can just push the odd guy out when time perrmits but he must be skilled and smart enough to paly todays game…d in the NHL today is probably the most cerebral position out there. Markov i very good with his stick and while he has lost a step watch how many puck battles he wins….and how often he gets his stick on pucks.

  6. Habfan10912 says:

    Another reason why I love this organization. An online auction to support autism awareness.

    • Luke says:

      Groulx used to be goalie coach with Florida right?

      Funny to see so many Panther items there. Good on the Habs and the NHL and everyone involved.
      (Though I think the description could use a quick re-write…)

  7. The Jackal says:

    Just to throw April Fool’s trades around, and just trade ideas in general – inspired by the subject of repatriating ex-Habs…
    Cammy to Montreal for Flames’ second round pick and Dallas’ third.
    Yes or no?

  8. Caesar says:

    comparing Carey to the 2 best in my life time
    GP W Min G/ A SO GAA SV%
    2007–08 4 24 2413 103 3 2.56 0.92
    2008–09 52 23 3036 143 1 2.83 0.905
    2009–10 41 13 2358 109 0 2.77 0.912
    2010–11 72 38 4206 165 8 2.35 0.923
    2011–12 65 26 3944 160 4 2.43 0.916
    2012- 13 28 17 1682 64 3 2.28 0.915
    TTL 299 141 17639 744 19
    GP W Min GA SO GAA SV%
    1993–94 47 27 2625 105 3 2.4 0.915
    1994–95 40 19 2184 89 3 2.45 0.902
    1995–96 77 34 4433 173 6 2.34 0.911
    1996–97 67 37 3838 120 10 1.88 0.927
    1997–98 70 43 4128 130 10 1.89 0.917
    TTL 301 160 17208 617 32

    GP W Min GA SO GAA SV%
    1985–86 47 23 2649 148 1 3.35 0.875
    1986–87 46 22 2681 131 1 2.93 0.892
    1987–88 45 23 2582 125 3 2.9 0.9
    1988–89 48 33 2743 113 4 2.47 0.908
    1989–90 54 31 3173 134 3 2.53 0.912
    1990–91 48 25 2835 128 1 2.71 0.906
    ttl 288 157 16663 779

    • Loonie says:

      I don’t know where you found any stats that showed something other than .999 save percentages for Patrick Roy but it must be bogus.

    • krob1000 says:

      Not fair at all….Roy’s early years were spent facing guys like Gretzky, Lemieux,etc with small equipment and the average gaols per game was insnae. Brodeur’s coach invented the trap and is largely responislbe for the boring yet technically impressive we see today…having Brodeur was probably the inspiration for that. Brodeur and Roy are legends…PRice is a great gaolie today but time will tell where his legacy leaves him but that is an unfair comparison.

      • Cal says:

        Lemaire did NOT invent the trap. Dick Irvin Sr. had the Habs playing that way since the 40s.

      • Caesar says:

        Not unfair at all. Just the stats nothing subjective about them. I hope Carey compares himself to the best of all time everyday and tries to reach or better them. If not he would be aiming to be “kind of good” and not the best.
        I hope every forward compares himself to Wayne or Mario, and not Gilbert Dionne. I hope every D compares themself to Orr and not Ferrence.

        My mistake, I thought the idea was to be the best no matter who you are.

    • TheLogician says:

      I forgot how “platoon-ish” things were back in Patrick’s day.

      Marty’s ironman stats are pretty impressive.

      Do you have the same for playoffs? Not trying to be difficult (re: Price)…just curious to see how “clutch” Patrick and Marty really were/are.

      • Caesar says:

        GP W Min GA SO GAA SV%
        2008 11 5 648 30 2 2.78 0.901
        2009 4 0 219 15 0 4.11 0.878
        2010 4 0 135 8 0 3.56 0.89
        2011 7 3 455 16 1 2.11 0.934
        94 17 8 1171 38 1 1.95 0.928
        95 20 16 1222 34 3 1.67 0.927
        96 10 5 659 19 2 1.73 0.929
        97 6 2 366 12 0 1.97 0.927
        85 20 15 1215 39 1 1.93 —
        86 6 4 330 22 0 4 —
        87 8 3 428 24 0 3.36 0.889
        88 19 13 1206 42 2 2.09 0.92
        90 12 5 640 26 1 2.43 0.911

  9. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    McKenzie saying Detroit and STL are both going after Bouwmeester. Huge contract, but that guy can eat minutes like crazy. Habs fans would hate him though

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      I’d love 2 years of a JayBo/Subban Pairing.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        Me too…he doesn’t hit, ever (thus why he’d be an object of scorn). But he’s great with the puck and defensively very solid. And can play as many minutes as PK. It’s almost like a younger, much more agile and offensively minded Hal Gill

  10. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    If you were the Dallas GM, would you trade with MB again after what he did to you the last time? 🙂

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  11. habs-fan-84 says:

    I hope Montreal does NOT trade for Clowe. That is all.

  12. munch17 says:

    What about picking up Guy Lafleur?
    He has as many goals as Ryan Clowe this year and has had even better years in the past.
    And it won’t take any prospects or picks!!

  13. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    By the way:

    Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 3h
    I’ve been told that Boston and Montreal are not on top of the list where Ryan Clowe could be traded as of right now. #RDS

    Renaud usually knows whereof he speaks…

    Glad to hear it. No way a guy that slow would fit on our roster.

    • Habfan17 says:

      If the Habs could get him for Bournival and Weber, I would take it. As long as they don’t have to give up too much. They could throw in Avtsin too. Maybe a change in scenery would help him since he would not report to the east coast team.


  14. HabinBurlington says:

    Bryce Harper of the Nationals on pace for 324 home runs after hitting home runs in his first 2 at bats of the season.

  15. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    If you were the Phoenix GM, would you trade Yandle now? Makes no sense to me…a Jordan Staal draft day deal seems more logical…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Loonie says:

      Depends on what you can get. If you jerk the player around long enough(Nash) you end up in a situation where word gets out that the player wants out, and then you’re stuck having to trade him and subsequently can’t get as much for him as you could have previously.

      Fine lines.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Let’s keep in mind that (as far as I know) this Yandle rumour is based on a Toronto Sun article in which they say the Leafs are interested in him.

      That’s a far cry from him being trade bait.

  16. boomer824 says:

    How about this for a Possible trade- to NJ Brian Gionta to MTL David Clarkson. Mtl gets rid of another big contract next year and NJ gets A player undercontract for another year who had great sucess thier before. Also Gio gets to play with his little Bro.

    • Storman says:

      And Lou Lamoriello gets fired ,, Clarkson is going nowhere

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Clarkson is going UFA this summer and bloggers on Eklunds site are promoting trade talk. I love Clarkson, but can’t see Lou trading him, needs him for playoff run. If traded price would be huge, would have to have an extension signed as part of trade.

        • Storman says:

          It would require a haul to get him and probably heavy conditions on the ability to re sign him,, Lou will not let Carkson go unless he gets some incredible offer, but i guess you never know

    • sims says:

      clarkson as a rental? i can see him getting gionta-type dollars as a ufa this summer

    • mark-ID says:

      While I believe that could technically work out as a trade….I can’t see Montreal trading their captain this year. I think it would be a little bit too bold of a move that could mess with team chemistry. Would love love it if we could land Clarkson somehow though.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Habfan17 says:

      The Habs would have to add something I think, Gionta and Bournival maybe. Gionta is 34 and Clarkson is 29. If they did this it should be contingent on the Habs extending Clarkson.


  17. habs001 says:

    While there are games in hand the Leafs have scored the 3rd most goals in the NHL…They could be dangerous if they pick up a solid goaltender without losing roster players…

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      If I was a Leafs fan, my concern (besides for my mental well-being) would be that they’re still a one-trick pony at the moment. Shut down Lupul/Kadri and they’re done. Unless Kessel finds his game.

      One-line teams tend to do poorly in the playoffs.

    • Luke says:

      The goals against are a huge issue for the Leafs. Perhaps a
      new goalie could help that, but they give up so many shots against that a good goalie is still going to let shots past. Both Reimer and Scri-vezina have solid Save%, they just see so much rubber that they still let a lot of goals.

      They also have such a ludicrisouly high shooting% as a team. It’s madness… they scramble around their zone for 3/4s of a shift, give up chance after chance and then go up the ice and score. Be it a fluke-y bounce, or a beautiful play, they are just scoring at too high a percentage.
      I doubt that’ll sustain itself through to the playeoffs but wierder things have happened… At Some point that trend has to correct itself… there will come a time where they will struggle to get anything in the net… I mean, it has to right? I can’t bare the thought that this is reality.

  18. krob1000 says:

    Just because it is April Fools…and I am bored (and have seen some pretty imporessive Ovechkin play lately)how is this for crazy scenario…would you?
    Galchenyuk ,Beaulieu, Kaberle, mid prospect and 2013 1st for Alex Ovechkin.
    I know it sounds out there…but Ovechkin in shape is still Ovechkin as he has shown of late…maybe not the 65 goal guy but I think he could hit 50 again for sure. His cap hit is outrageous….but the team is in very good cap shape moving forward….not having to use the amnesty buyout on Kaberle would mean another contract could be moved out to help out. After next season both Markov and GIo are off the books and will be replaced, the cap will have gone up two seasons worth of increases…..most of the major pieces are signed through then. Gorges contract could easily be moved too.
    Could MT have Ovie buy in? Markov hasn’t got much time left…for the next 5 years Montreal would be more than legit contenders.
    This year it would fit ….if you moved Gorges (IMO bouillon does the same job at a third of the price), Ryder falls off the books.
    Next year Gio falls off.
    It would be depressing losing Galchenyuk…but will he ever be a 40 goal guy like Ovie still is?Would Markov sign cheaper for another year or two with OVie hear and play a pp role and diminished minutes?
    How good are Nygren and Deitz? With PK presumably around for the next decasde or so…is it necessary to have Beaulieu? Diaz is still in his prime. Tinordi will hold down onw of the defensive dmen slots. FOr the near future you have DIaz/Markov/Subban …..along with Emelin/Tinordi/Bouillon for another year (and then another similar vet). By the next year is Nygren ready? Dietsz is thent he stud in the pipeline like BEaulieu is now.
    Cap wise that contract would actually be doable for Montreal…very few contending teams could say that but the job MB has done witht he teams rising starts has allowed for such a gamble. Only concern would be the pay structure that MB has put in place..but it isn’t his contract.
    I am 100 percent a Crosby fan…Stamkos, Malkin, Datsyuk, Toews, Weber …right now those are the only guys I would make a similar all in move for.

    Will this happen…about a less than zero percent chance…but at least it should help you kill a few minutes.

      • krob1000 says:

        lol…short but sweet. I wouldn’t move Galchenyuk either…but the way MB is moving pieces around and clearing space for next year, having the guys sign affordably…I feel he is up to something big come offseason. When I look around teh only big names I think that would be a fit and potentially available are Ovie and I thought Kane before the season.
        I am not sure what he is up to but I have a feeling it may be quite the offseason.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      9.5 million cap hit…no way.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • krob1000 says:

        If there is any team that has a future cap outlook that could actually piece that in to its target window it is Montreal.
        I would never want to give up Galchenyuk…I threw ihis name in a worst case scenario situation but I can see Montreal targeting Ovie if Wash fails to make the playoffs. That just may be the last straw if they miss the playoffs.
        Vinny may not have been worth a huge mortgage but I believe Ovie would be.

    • Bripro says:

      Absolutely not, no, absolutely, maybe and maybe.
      Ovy is wearing out fast.
      His over-the-top aggressive style, and the fact that he’s hearing-impaired when it comes to coaching…. no thanks. Not anymore.
      And much too $$$$

    • Habfan17 says:

      Absolutely not!!! Galcjenyuk has the potential to be a franchise player, why would you move him, and all those other players for one overpaid player who has had his own issues of late.


    • Cal says:

      Without Markov this Habs team does not contend.
      Ovie’s contract is for owners that belong in a Home for the Criminally Irresponsible.
      The other point is: why make the Caps better.

      • krob1000 says:

        nowhere did I emtnion trading Markov…the opposite…I think he would take abargain deal at the end of his career given his time lost and OVie coming

        • Cal says:

          Not trading him- letting his contract expire so he walks away as UFA. Experienced Dmen are very important. You can’t win anything with only kids back there.

          • krob1000 says:

            I said sign him to an extension at a disocunted rate as a pp specialist when his older…limit his minutes eventually.

  19. Les-Habitants says:

    While Ryane Clowe is one player that would help this team, I think Ryan Whitney could be a good addition. He’s a big, veteran guy who can man the point on our 2nd PP. If Diaz is likely to be out for the post-season, I think trading for Whitney could be a good rental and fills a more pressing need with Prust back in the line-up.

    • Strummer says:

      Ryan Clowe, Ryan Whitney or perhaps even Ryan O’Byrne coming here?
      If we don’t land any of them it would be a ‘ryan shame.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  20. HabinBurlington says:

    Sports Book Bovada with their trade odds.

  21. Stevie.Ray says:

    Thoughts on David Savard?
    Hearing MTL might be interested in him.

  22. Loonie says:

    If somebody told you five years ago that Kaberle and Ryder would have Stanley Cup rings what would you have said to them?

  23. habs001 says:

    Looks like the Habs have a lot of prospects on the d…If you can build a solid d that has size, shut down aspects and puck movement abilities you can afford to add some pure scorers with limited d abilities(like Kessel etc)…I would not give up any top end d prospects for a Clowe type player…Because of the potential the Habs have for d thay could be cup contenders for years…

  24. Danno says:

    My TradeCentre Summary:

    So much has been said by so many about so little


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  25. kirbhabs says:

    Columbus apparently wants a scorer for one of their 1st round picks… I’d give up Ryder in a heart beat.

    • mdp2011 says:


    • mark-ID says:

      No way…..we need Ryder in the lineup for the playoffs. He is one of the hottest players we have at the moment.
      It is looking like one of the three draft picks will all be later in the round anyways. Not sure why you would want to hurt our playoff chances for a late 1st rounder next year. (Columbus, Rangers and LA all have chance to make playoffs)

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

      • kirbhabs says:

        What, our 2 round play-off run… Need big picture. If they would take Gionta… that would be Brilliant, especially with Kristo coming.

        I feel the Window Keeper has pointed to us that our curtains are open but the window is still closed, but it is just right there. Pittsburgh window is wide open and Boston is closing…

        We still have some work for a cup team… and a rental pick up now would be foolish for the next couple years.

        • Cal says:

          So let’s not play any of the games as Pittsburgh is a lock?
          How not to succeed by not trying.

        • mark-ID says:

          We are second in the East….almost 40 games into the season. We are not sellers this year. Whether or not you believe they can win the cup… is certainly possible to go far this year. You don’t give up the opportunity. We don’t have to go and trade away draft picks for rentals…..but MB certainly isn’t going to trade away goal scoring roster players for picks either.

          “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

      • Habfan17 says:

        True, Ryder is hot, however, if Bergevin could take this first round pick, and their own to move up and get Drouin, then I would do it.


    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      ???…isn’t he our leading scorer now?

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Loonie says:

        Yeah and the end result would be Cole and Ryder for a 1st and a 3rd.

        Not exactly a good haul.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Actually, the end result would be Cole for a 1st and a 3rd.


          • Loonie says:

            No it wouldn’t, because you’d be trading Ryder too.

            In the two deals you would have traded Erik Cole and Michael Ryder and would have acquired a first round pick and a third round pick.

          • Habfan17 says:

            @ Lonnie, think about it, you wouldn;t have the first round pick if you hadn’t traded Cole, It would be like flipping Cole to Dallas for the 3rd and Ryder, and just sending him to the Jackets for the 1st. so in effect, it is Cole for a 1st and 3rd.


          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            sorry, it is Cole for 1st and 3rd.

          • Loonie says:

            You wouldn’t have the first round pick without Ryder either fellas.

            If Bergevin could have gotten a 1st for Cole he would have gotten a first for Cole.

    • Bripro says:

      Why would you want to give up a point-per-game player?

  26. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Seeing as this is Come Home Year:


    I think the next prodigal son to return will be….Ryan O’Byrne. (depth defenceman who will be a healthy scratch and only play in the event of an injury)

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Shelly would look great back there firing howitzers at the point and clearing jabroni’s out of price’s grill……everything except for being flat footed and getting deked out of his jock by spezza. But he is leading or at the top of the +/- category I believe. Go get him MB!

      Shaker out!

    • Rugger says:

      Ribeiro, Ribeiro where for art thou Ribeiro?

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I was not sad to see that guy go

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Bripro says:

          Same here, Kooch.
          And I watched last tuesday’s (?) highlights of Washington against the Islanders, and Ribero scored.
          The arrogance on his face is the same as it was all those years ago. I don’t care if he’s a natural goal scorer. I’d bring AK46 back before I would re-sign that blow-hard.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Yeah. He should go play for the Bruins. He would fit in there. Be interesting to see if AK comes back next year or stays in the KHL

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  27. Danno says:

    Holy smokes! So many trades happening today.

    Unreal! :mrgreen:

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  28. Bripro says:

    If I was MB, I’m not sure I’d be in the buyers’ market. It would be foolish to not explore what is out there, but from there to disrupting the team’s chemistry for a “rental” as everyone calls it, by picking up an expensive player for a month, maybe two, maybe even three.
    Halpern was an inexpensive pick-up and I don’t have any issues with it. Not much is given up, and we know he’s very good on face-offs.
    The big D we’re looking for? We’ve just evaluated a couple which the team already owns.
    As for the big F we need? Did we need him against the Bruins or the Pens? Not really.
    If the Habs played like a team of individuals rallying independently from one another, that would be one thing.
    But this latest version is so fast and the team concept is followed so well, I won’t hold it against MB if he does nothing. Because at this stage, not only won’t it change much, but giving away a prospect or two might disrupt the long-term plan.
    It’s not as if the team is teetering on the playoff fence. We’re already in, a total astronomical collapse notwithstanding.
    I say steady as she goes, all the way into June.

    • Loonie says:

      Not necessarily disagreeing with you but how a team handles injuries says a lot about how they handle the balance or status quo being upset.

      Bourque, Prust and Diaz went down and the team really didn’t miss a beat.

      If you add a player to the mix it’s a kick in the ass for the room. Tells them that management believes in their chances.

      • Chrisadiens says:

        Just playing devil’s advocate here, but couldn’t the players also interpret a move as management believing they don’t have a shot without adding a player?

        Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Great Post. I agree with everything you wrote. One area I’d like your input on is a “hockey trade” as opposed to a rental. Are you of the opinion that the team should stand pat for the remainder of the year, or just not go after a rental?

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        I draw the distinction at a guy who’s going to contribute for several seasons to the team…not picking up one of the UFAs for the playoff run who can then walk away.

        So if Yandle is truly on the market, that’d be a hockey trade because he has three seasons left on his contract. Whereas, if there isn’t a contract in place for Clowe…rental. 🙂

        • johnnylarue says:

          Honest question here: why does Phoenix want to move Yandle?

          • Ghosts of the Forum says:

            Guessing that they are broke. Should also note, this is based on a rumour from the Toronto Sun…unless anyone else has sources?

            So take it with a grain of salt….to the media in TO there’s a definite possibility Crosby wants to leave the Pens to join their Cup run 😉

      • Bripro says:

        Slim pickings in my opinion.
        I wouldn’t touch Ryan Clowe.
        The potential is there, but if he hasn’t scored a goal, there has to be an issue. And even if there wasn’t, as a GM, I’d be playing devil’s advocate and I’d stay away from him.
        I would however take a look at Jagr.
        He’s older, yes, but he has a limited history with Pleks, including during the lock-out where the two played very well together.
        Given his age, a two-year might be risky, but the way MT manages everyone’s OIT, I think it wouldn’t hurt. And since he’s always dreamed of playing here, I don’t think we’d have to give away the bank.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Agree — especially with progress in Rene Bourque’s situation.

      If a hockey trade is out there, of course take it. But there’s no need to force a trade because the Pens picked up Iggy.

  29. Bill says:

    Still waiting for Kristo to sign. Come on Berg.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The details are posted in the next thread.

      • Storman says:

        i have been texting with hockey friends in Wisconsin and Minnesota and it seems like it will absolutely get done, and probably will come with a promise for Kristo to get a look with Habs and not Hamilton first..could be the sticking point, but i am sure he will sign so as to burn a year off his EL…

    • The Jackal says:

      If I read hockey or heard hockey in my mother tongue, and Kristo was playing, then it would always seem as if Christ was on the ice, scoring goals, making passes.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Still got until August. McKenzie posted on Twitter that both sides want it to happen, so guessing it will. I imagine MB is focusing on the deadline right now and will work through that contract soon after.

      • Storman says:

        If it goes past a point where he can play at least a game to burn a year off his EL he then has more reason to become a free agent. So it has to get done well before August to keep him .

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Antoine Laganiere too…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  30. 24 Cups says:

    Buyer beware. How hilarious is it that a guy who hasn’t scored a goal in 13 months is one of the top three trade stories? AND he wants to choose his destination while demanding a new UFA contract from the new team.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I would rather Moen than Clowe right now.. that is saying a lot.. Clowe is slower than Lucic.. I watch SJ games.. Thornton, Boyle, and Burns are fantastic.. Clowe really doesn’t do much.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The obsession of NHL fans around trade deadline is crazier than any other sport. It is amazing how many fans think all this tinkering can and will happen.

      The last few trade deadlines have seen less and less trades of any substance. In a salary cap world, the key is to continually have a stream of young players joining the fold at low contract contributions. Salary Cap = Less Trades (my opinion)

    • Storman says:

      He has twice scored over 20 goals in a season, although certainly the goose egg this year stands out just as much as the 24 he scored a couple of years ago, his goal scoring the past 5 years warrant the interest, but his biggest asset along with size and dirty goal scoring ability is his willingness to protect his team mates at will, definitively some major help for Brandon Prust and would really boost the image of the Canadiens in the tough to play against category.. Big Drawback for Clowe in my opinion is his lack of foot speed..

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      If we do not get him… i will be pleased with MB moves…. if we can get a good piece for the 4th line, or get a another player in the mould of a Moen type player but with more sandpaper.. I would be stoked… why get a guy who has less assists then our rookie Gallagher (has goals)

      Edit: put in “has goals”

      Go Habs Go

  31. Mr_MacDougall says:

    My vote for deadline pickups are Diaz and Bourque..

    Diaz is a smooth skating puck mover, 2nd PP QB

    Bourque is a bigger body, nose for the net, streaky scorer.

    Can get them for next to nothing 😉

    • Loonie says:

      If Bourque’s going to be back I wouldn’t add a forward. Even if Diaz is coming back I’d add a defenseman.

      I’m a damn broken record but I reiterate again that this team allows too many dirty goals. Far too many deflections, screens and rebounds resulting in opposing goals.

      That weakness if not addressed will absolutely bite this team when it matters. Diaz doesn’t cure that ailment.

      • Phil C says:

        A good shutdown defenseman would likely help the PK as well.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        My brother and I were talking and came to the conclusion that Gorges is a problem in that area. I like him, but I’d move him in a heartbeat for a decent return. He is overrated by media as a “warrior” but as time passes we realize Hal Gill was the true “PK wizard.”

        • Loonie says:

          It’s nothing personal but Gorges is pretty much the exact opposite mold of player that fits Therrien’s style of play.

          He defends the rush exceptionally well and blocks shots equally well. He isn’t an attacking defenseman.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            Would you trade Gorges?

          • Loonie says:

            It would depend on the circumstances. His leadership is great but not paramount with guys like Plekanec, Markov, Prust, Moen and Gionta on the team.

            His contributions on the ice are ideal for a third pairing and not a second. If Bergevin can swing a deal that gets a better player onto the second pairing I think this team is as good as anyone else in the NHL.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I like Boumeester in Cgy.. not sure if he is the guy they’d be looking for in return.

      • The Jackal says:

        I hear you, I hope they add a D-man too.

      • habs001 says:

        The scenario you indicate sounds like what happened vs the Flyers in the playoffs…This problem along with pk issues can easily loose a series for the Habs…Another solid d would really help here…Many posters are looking for another forward but unlikely the Habs can add a scoring forward and to add a tough forward looks like the asking price is too high..Just have to hope that Moen can become that player in the playoffs…

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      The concern is that Diaz isn’t even skating yet. Doesn’t look promising that he’ll be back…thus the interest in a depth dman.

      But I agree, would hate MB to overpay to bring someone in if we can manage from within. Imagine Beaulieau’s game tonight will be closely examined…

      • 24 Cups says:

        With just two days to go until the trade deadline, I think MB has to assume he’s going into the playoffs without Diaz. How he handles that problem will speak volumes.

  32. stnbog says:

    The ‘Dead Arm’ which Price is doing. is being taught to goalies learning the butterfly. Brodeur called it the half butterfly. This position is used when the puck is bellow the bottom of the face-off circle or in the corner. My son who is a pee wee, is learning the method. Hard for goalies to learn and trust the technique.

    • H.Upmann says:

      Very interesting ! I do a bit of martial arts where we don’t block, we “cover” space.. wondering if this is kind of the same idea..

  33. The Jackal says:

    Sorry if my April Fool’s joke was offensive… I notice it got modded.
    Just thought I’d share what’s going around in the international relations circle of jokes, did not mean to offend.

  34. Storman says:

    Toronto has big time interest in Yandle, and the talk is they would have to give up at the least a 1st rounder and Jake Gardiner, So for all of us hoping to land Yandle be prepared too let Nathan Beaulieu and a 1st round pick go bye bye. The 1st rounder i could stand to lose, but not Nathan Beaulieu, Nathan is a complete blue chip stud, from a purely scouting point of view, skating , vision shot, off the charts, and a mean streak to boot, no way can you trade Beaulieu.. , This is why MB will have a hard time making a deal for a player of substance as every team in the league wants to steal Beaulieu in return..

  35. habfan53 says:

    I know I’m preaching to the choir but REALLY is there a reason that Montreal representatives do not pick up 4 awards this year?

    Calder – Gallagher, I’ve seen Huberdeau and Conacher as the favourites but seriously ??? for points they are basiclly equal in the +/- Gallagher is way ahead . Other two nominees shoud be Mezzin( L.A.) and Wiercioch (Ott.) with possibly Hamilton (Bos.)

    Norris- Subban, Never mind the poll that came out last week where P.K. did not even get a vote. It was done in Early February before he played a handfull of games. The only four in my opinion that should be considered are P.K., Letang, Suter and Beauchemin. As for points the first three are basically the same, in the +/- Letang and P.K. lead. The big Difference in TOI with Suter at 27.18, Letang 25.7 and P.K. at only 22.45.

    Jack Adams-Therrien Up against; Quenneville after the GREAT start the Hawks are back to normal . Paul McLean working with all the injuries probably the Favourite and finally Bruce Beaudreau very consistant in Anaheim.

    Finally the Bill Masterton – Markov other than “Sid the Kid” I can’t think of anyone.

    I seriously don’t believe the HABS have anybody for the Lady Byng, Selke, Hart, Vezina or Ted Lindsay awards

    • Loonie says:

      Calder – Gallagher’s gonna have a tough time beating out Huberdeau but it remains possible.

      Jack Adams – Therrien’s competition won’t be Quenneville when it’s all said and done, it’ll be Carlyle and MacLean. And Therrien will likely win it.

      Norris – Subban has some things working against him, his contract hold out, his lack of penalty killing minutes and some writers who live to find fault with him being the main reasons.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        The argument against PK has been TOI and “he’s not ready for the Norris”

        How are you not ready? If you have the points, D, PP, skill, consistency? TOI.. he has been logging tons of minutes.. eliminate the first 10 GP and he is right up their.. the best D on one of the best teams deserves consideration.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        PK over Letang in a heartbeat. Letang is 4th on his team in scoring, good chance Subban ends up the #1 scorer on MTL that tells you a lot.


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        • HabinBurlington says:

          Crosby and Malkin may have a bit to do with a dman not leading his team in scoring.

          • commandant says:

            Yeah, and that works against Letang IMO.

            The voters will say its easier to put up points on the PP when you get to pass to Crosby and Malkin, then when you are passing to our players (nothing against our forwards, but they aren’t Crosby/Malkin)

            Go Habs Go!
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        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Yup…goals are a lot harder to get than assists…

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • habfan53 says:

        I agree Huberdeau seems to be main oponent but I don’t see why.
        Gallagher is 5 points and 2 goals less than Jonathan but the energy and value to the team Gallgher brings is much higher.
        Also I beleive as the season closes he will pick up steam.

    • Rugger says:

      Only award I care about the Habs winning is Conn Smyth.

  36. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I swear half the posters on here have better info than TSN “Insiders.”

    Seriously, they look at the standings, select top teams as “buyers” then select bottom teams as “sellers.” Then they look at UFA’s on sellers and match them up with buyers. Nothing more.

  37. ooder says:

    guys i would like to see here:
    keith yandle
    ruslan fedentko
    fedor tyutin
    (this one is a pipe dream) anton volchenkov

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Tyutin is not going anywhere though – Columbus is on the move and he is a big part of their future.

      They would want Max P in exchange.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  38. Habfan10912 says:

    Happy Birthday to one of my all time great ball players. Rusty Staub!

    • kalevine says:


      He made people excited about baseball in Montreal, and there was a drop off in interest when he was traded. Shame he never won a worlds eries (did he?), although he came very close with Mets in 1973.

      I remember when they got him back in 1979, well past his prime. I was listening to a game and Dave Van Horne was describing the at bat. “Seaver took something off it and Rusty hits it high and deep to right field….up up and away”. I thought, wow, anyone can hit a fastball out of the park…this guy was strong

  39. B says:

    Muller’s team has only won 3 of their last 10 games including a streak of 7 straight losses where they only scored 10 goals in those 7 losses (5 games in a row of scoring only 1 goal).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  40. Aerobiz says:

    Keith Yandle might be available.

    I think we need more help on D than we do on offense.

    He brings both.

    “The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to give us a chance to show how badly we want something.”- Randy Pausch

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree that we need more help on the blue line and Yandle is tempting.

      • Aerobiz says:

        I think Pateryn (very good, but the lesser of the auditioned D we’ve seen this season), Weber (lets just move on shall we) and a 3rd would get it done without costing the Habs too much. We are going to have a traffic jam on D real soon with all of our prospects anyways.

        “The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to give us a chance to show how badly we want something.”- Randy Pausch

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Not having his best year, but still a two 40 point and one 60 point season in his last three years.

      If he is available, the price tag will be significant.

  41. Hali_Hab says:

    Just read that MB has interest in Bickel, Rupp and Clifford. All those players are cut from the same mold. I can see MB tweaking / insulating what he has. I was hoping for a Torres or Ott type player. Would go along way in the playoffs and would not cost the same foolish price as a Clowe type player.

    • Price07 says:

      I would love to get Bickel or a Bickel type…would be perfect for the habs who need to add a bit of size and toughness (but with some offensive ability) to their top 9.

  42. sCOTT1243 says:

    NHL trade deadline…hmmmm

    My comment to MB, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. We could get all the fire power in the league and it could turn out to be a bust…this team has heart and skill, which may just take them to the end… I don’t know, why mess with chemistry now, especially for a rental.

  43. Chuck says:

    I love the video of Price working on his angles, and the positioning of the camera is great. It’s a nice reminder to view the game from the perspective of the puck, so that when someone says, “He’s just flopping around on his knees!” you’ll know that there’s a fundamental reason why he does it that way.

    Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • mksness says:

      ya most people forget there is a reason for the positioning.

    • Habcouver says:

      Interesting video. I often wondered why Price kneeled down when the puck was close in play. He does cover a lot of net with this style. I’m guessing the ones that get over him must be perfect (or lucky) shots.

      Waiting patiently for #25

  44. otter649 says:

    CH24 on TSN @ 1:30pm…..

  45. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Wonder if the announcement that McBain is available coinciding with the ‘Canes being in Montreal is coincidence?

    (As in, MB and Rutherford chat, Rutherford decides to put feelers out there to other teams).

    ’tis the season to rumour spread 😉

    • Sportfan says:

      The season is finally almost over for that 😛 but would be cool with McBain is he gritty having trouble with putting a face to the name.

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        I don’t know if I’d say gritty, but he’s big and can move the puck. And most importantly, is cheap.

        Leads Carolina in +/- and averages about 20 minutes a game. A solid depth guy who wouldn’t be lights out on the PP, but not completely out of place on the second wave, it seems.

    • B says:

      Why does Carolina want to get rid of McBain?

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • helluva habs fan says:

        Good question. This is the last year of his deal, too lazy to check if he’s UFA this summer. All I can figure is they want to see what ridiculous offers, if any, they might get for him. Lots of interest in defencemen right now and not many are available.

        EDIT. I’m wrong, one more year after this year for McBain. Makes this all the more interesting.

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        Dunno — was reported by Dreger and LeBrun. They, and league GMs, seem surprised too.

  46. The Jackal says:

    Jeezzz that hit from PK would have KILLED Lucy had it connected.

  47. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 9m
    Surprise and instant interest from NHL teams upon hearing Jamie McBain’s name as trade target. #tradecentre

    Does seem like pretty much what MB is looking for (if TSN is to be believed). Question is how much is he worth and how much does interest from other teams drive up that price?

  48. habsfan0 says:

    I’m of the opinion that Marc Bergevin will do…nothing.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Wouldn’t be the worst move he ever made 🙂

      Guessing if Bourque is indeed close to returning that makes that scenario all the more likely.

    • JUST ME says:

      Will all due respect to what we read here and elsewhere i think that the stakes will be too high for what is available. Rumor has that For Crowe we would need to give a first roud choice ! We just went through an era of people wanting a scoreless player`s head on a platter and now we would want to hire another one ? Just does not make sense .

  49. Luke says:

    In Light of Autism Awareness Month, thought I’d link this here and quote what I thought were the key points. It’s a good base analogy of what Autism is. Used by a mother to explain it to a grade school class her child is in.
    The post is from 2010 and sent to me by a good friend whose little one is Autistic. Hope you don’t mind…

    “Having autism means that your brain is put together differently. Your brain still works perfectly well. It just does things differently from other people’s brains.
    “Now, we all know that your brain is a machine that’s made of tissue and neurons and nerve cells. But let’s pretend it was a more simple machine. Let’s pretend your brain wasn’t made of tissue and neurons and nerve cells, but instead, it was made of metal and plastic and electrical wires. And let’s pretend that when you put that metal and plastic and electrical wire together, it turned into a toaster.”

    “And let’s pretend that MOST of us had toaster brains. Some of us might make white toast and some wheat toast or rye toast, and some of us might make light toast and some of us dark toast. Some of us might only toast bagels, and sometimes we might even burn the toast, but for the most part, all of our brains would be able to do the same thing: make toast.

    “Now, think about the pretend world that we have just created. In our world, MOST people have toaster brains. So, when we make the rules for our world and decide how we want to spend our time, what do you think we’ll decide is the MOST important thing a person can do?” … Toast.
    ” Because we have brains that are really GOOD at making toast – so we will want to have a world where it’s REALLY important and REALLY valuable to make toast. “
    “Now let’s pretend that Bud’s brain is ALSO made of metal and plastic and electrical wires, just like our brains, except that when HIS metal and plastic and electrical wires get put together, they turn into a totally different kind of machine. Instead of being a TOASTER, Bud’s metal and plastic and electrical wires turn into a HAIR DRYER.”
    “Now, there’s nothing WRONG with a hair dryer, right? Hair dryers are great! There are some things that hair dryers are really good for. There are some things that a hair dryer can do even BETTER than a toaster. But it is REALLY, REALLY hard to make toast with a hair dryer.”
    “So, in our pretend world, even though Bud has a perfectly wonderful hair dryer brain, it’s going to be hard for him, because we toaster-brained people have decided that the most important thing that people do in our world is make toast. And Bud probably can make toast with his hair dryer, right? But he is going to have to work a lot harder to make toast with his hair-dryer brain than we will with our toaster brains. It will probably take him a lot longer to make his toast. And no matter how hard he works, his hair-dryer toast will probably always look different from our toaster toast.”

  50. Sportfan says:

    DarrenDreger: CBJ will be a buyer. Columbus would be willing to part with 1 of their 3 first rnd draft picks for a scoring forward. #tradecentre

    Honestly I wouldn’t do that if I was in Columbus its not often you get 3 picks I say keep them use them, there GM seems to have a good eye on prospects.

  51. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Columbus looking to deal a first-rounder (most likely not theirs…they have NYR and LA’s too. If NYR don’t make the playoffs, that could be a decent pick) for a scoring winger.

  52. Sportfan says:

    2 things: First I am on the fence about getting Clowe, but imagine if we got him over the Bruins. That means we got Ryder and they didn’t, they got shafted in the Iginla trade and would lose Clowe how funny would that be?

    Second: Am I the only one who is really hoping that most of the trades get done before the 3rd so that way the Sports networks can stop over analyzing trade deadline. That way the can do a shown from 1-4/5 instead of 8-5 where they sit there and do nothing most of the time. Until one prospect gets traded for a draft pick and they talk about it for 2 hours?

    • Luke says:

      “This third round pick in 2014 could definitely be an impact player down the line. However, the impact of the 2015 3rd round and 4th rounder can’t be overstated.
      Good trade for both teams.”

  53. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    MB trades a pick for a 6-7 UFA D-man (e.g., O’Byrne) OR a prospect (e.g. Pateryn) and a pick for a D-man under contract.

    Can’t see much else happening…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  54. BJ says:

    Tough day in sports. A player in Kazachstan dies after a hit and this basketball in a brutal freak accident.
    This is not an April 1 joke. Also a serious warning that this is not a video for sensitive types:

  55. Say Ash says:

    Anybody got the Stanley Cup winner odds handy? Before and after Crosby?

  56. Sportfan says:

    Wonder if we’ll rock those Hurricanes tonight? 4-2 Habs?

  57. Danno says:

    How come Crosby and Bobrovski’s picture is up on the NHL Three Stars page, but not PK Subban’s?


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  58. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Figure MB is interested in Jamie McBain?

    Not much of an offensive upside, but a cheap guy who can play decent, effective minutes.

    Still doesn’t help the second PP unit though…

  59. shiram says:

    For all high profile rentals, the asking price seems to be more than what a reasonable GM would part with.
    And of course Price starts.

  60. Loonie says:

    Good news or bad news depending on which side of the fence you’re on.

    But Eklund just did another blog post and didn’t mention the Habs as a player in the Clowe sweepstakes.

    I think that increases the likelihood of him joining the Habs significantly.

  61. GGtheHab says:

    Might be picking up a power forward soon…hopefully we get the early season version of Bourque..

  62. kerrgte says:

    Because of the shortened and compacted season, I think gm’s will wait until they’ve played their last game before the trade deadline to decide if they’re buyers or sellers. Should be an active wednesday.

    come on Marc, we need a d’man and Jagr.

    • mr_jmac says:

      MB will stand pat and I predict no moves. The top 3 lines are already set. Who would get displaced if a rental player is picked up? Assuming Bourque returns:

      Ryder – Pleks – Gio
      Patches – DD – Gallagher
      Galchenyuk – Eller – Bourque
      Armstrong/Moen – Halpern/White – Prust

      I don’t even see the need for a D-Man especially if Diaz returns.

      I like our chances this year with what we have. Looking at the cap space and the contracts for next year … the real chance to make a run at the cup is next year. Kablerle’s salary is off the books, there are no expensive contracts to renew, all of our youth will only get better over the summer and the experience of at least one round of playoffs this year. And we have cap space to add a key player (assuming Ryder is not re-signed or if he can be convinced to sign for a less)

  63. TheLogician says:

    (april) first

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