Price to start for Habs against Wings and Emelin will be back in lineup

The Canadiens, coming off a 5-1 loss to the Penguins Wednesday night in Pittsburgh, practised for about 30 minutes Thursday afternoon in Detroit as they prepare to face the Red Wings Friday night (7:30 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Coach Michel Therrien confirmed that Carey Price, who was pulled against the Penguins, will start in goal and that Alexei Emelin, who was a healthy scratch in Pittsburgh, will be back in the lineup. Emelin was paired with Andrei Markov during Thursday’s practice.

The Canadiens will return home immediately after Friday’s game and will play host to the Washington Capitals Saturday night at the Bell Centre.

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked at practice:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Eller-Plekanec-Gionta
Bourque-Briere-Prust
Leblanc-Parros-Bournival-Moen

Gorges-Beaulieu
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Subban
Bouillon-Diaz

(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)

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773 Comments

  1. DickandDanny says:

    Therrien has coached only 98 games since his return to the Habs. MB is not about to make a change because he knows MT does not have the team in front of him to compete witht he big boys. He has obviously done some things right in order to get this sad sack bunch to play as well as they have to be sitting in 4th place in the Conference. So, lets face it because he has little in the way of quality players to coach he will be here for awhile longer. They said they wanted to bring back stability to the franchise so changing the coach again so soon isn’t about to happen. The problem really is we have no secondary scoring, nothing from our 3rd and 4th line players. Moen one goal, Prust a couple. White, one or two. Briere, maybe has 5. Eller hasn’t scored forever and is spotty at best. Bourque is useless. Gionta tries hard with few results. We bring up Louis Leblanc and he has scored all of ONCE in his past 13 AHL games. That’s the best we have? And so, MT is at fault for a team that can’t score? OMG would you want to coach this team? I think it’s a miracle we are where we are at presently. No one picked us to make the play-offs or finish above tenth in the Conference. So, I think we all do have the right to complain about our performance, but I wonder are we complaining about the right person? What about the individual players? What about the GM?
    Personally, I care more about the player’s performances than I do the coaches.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  2. habs001 says:

    Why will the Habs be any more of a cup contender in 2-3 years than the majority of the rest of the teams?..You cannot predict if they get elite players thru trades or ufa…They would need 10 players who are in their organization with no NHL or minimal NHL experience to become above average players…M

  3. Plekasuares says:

    Who’s had it with Therrien? No names = no truth

  4. DickandDanny says:

    This is how just one of Bergevin’s moves has played out…you be the Judge.

    Eric Cole is traded to free up cap space of almost 4 million. We give up a big power forward who can skate and score to free up money to spend elsewhere.
    Cole’s temporary replacement is UFA Michael Ryder who is a little less expensive, not quite as fast, or, as big as Cole, but he too can still score 25 -30 goals a season. He at least gave us some offensive presence. So, Ryder goes unsigned and is cut loose to sign elsewhere to free up that 4 plus million we needed for a big free agent signing.
    We turn around and use that money we saved on Cole, on UFA Daniel Briere. A slow skating, visibly fragile player with concussion history, a player who is older and well past his prime. One, who can no longer compete in the present day NHL.

    You be the Judge on Mr Bergevin record to date.

    My feeling is that one bad move alone would get you sacked in the real world of business.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

    • adadi says:

      I’m starting to worry that he can sign PK.

    • Max_Hab_Fan says:

      I agree. This one move doesn’t seem to be working out. The pro Briere camp is going to say that he was signed to give the Habs offense in the playoffs and we will have to wait to see if the Habs make it that far and how he performs once they are there. I would have preferred to kept the $ for someone else

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      In the Cole Ryder trade, a 3rd round pick was also part of the deal.
      With that pick, the Habs chose Connor Crisp.

      As for Briere, has has 30 games + playoffs IF the Habs get there, to prove this signing wasn’t a complete bust…..I betting man would need monster odds

  5. shiram says:

    Nu-thread.
    It’s like a new thread, but it’s more hip and appeals to teens.

  6. Plekasuares says:

    Trade MT?

  7. Habfan10912 says:

    Freaking cold in Plattsburgh. Hopefully its a tad warmer in Montreal. :).

  8. Max_Hab_Fan says:

    Not sure if this has been discussed, but is it a coincidence that Price has started to play poorly since he’s been working in a new set of goalie pads for the Olympic team? He seems to struggle while working in new gear. Just some food for thought since it’s lunch time somewhere!

  9. adadi says:

    According to Francois Gagnon, there is a mutiny brewing in the Habs locker. Gee, what a surprise.

  10. SmartDog says:

    Below I poked a little goofy fun and Therrien and MB.

    But just straight up… most people gave B&T the benefit of the doubt. Bergevin was an unkown but sounded good and Therrien was saying he’s learned and is a more steady hand.

    And it’s really frustrating to see that Bergevin’s gambles have turned out to be as bad as most people thought and that he’s done little to improve the team now or for tomorrow. And Therrien seems to be the same guy that was fired here (and in Pits) – good out of the gate but unable to create a steady team. Not the steady hand he pretended to be by a long shot.

    We waited a LONG time for Gainey and then where did he leave us? And then Bergevin comes saying the right things (we need to get bigger, tougher) and look at what he did and where we are. The line changes Therrien does, the stupid favoritism he’s shown certain guys (which ultimately may cost him his job) while a guy like Eller who is hungry to progress is now floundering on the wing. It’s very discouraging. Hard not to think these are just the WRONG guys. That we need yet another reboot. But there you are. And there WE are.

    SD

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  11. shiram says:

    Well there goes 2 players that could have helped the Habs, though realistically, they would bot have signed here..

    Pierre LeBrunVerified account ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

    Breaking news: San Jose Sharks have signed Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton to 3-year extensions.

    • shiram says:

      Cheap too, added a post because editing a post makes computers explode.

      Pierre LeBrunVerified account ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

      Marleau’s 3-year deal is worth $6.66 M a year AAV; Thornton’s deal is $6.75 M a year AAV.

    • arcosenate says:

      I don’t know, they both might miss minus 35 temperatures, high taxes and losing.

      • Forum Dog says:

        The taxes is a big one I think. Players who come to Canada, and Montreal particularly, take a pretty big tax hit. If you go on the assumption that they would be taxed at around 20-25% of their income, a $5M salary loses about $1.25M right away. Some of that might be offset with deductions, but it is significant considering they still have to pay their agents and put into a union. Not saying that I feel sorry for them (cause I don’t), but if it comes down to dollars (and it usually does), that would definitely play in…..

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Someone posted a while back, that California now has a tax rate almost as high as most Canadian provinces.

        • arcosenate says:

          California Income Tax:

          California income tax rates range from 1.25% to 9.55% and are levied on California residents’ income and non-residents’ income from California sources. The highest rate begins at $46,349 of income and those with incomes over $1 million have to pay an additional 1% tax surcharge (for a total tax of 10.55%).

          Quebec Income tax;

          More than $100,970 25.75%

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        California has a higher tax rate than Ontario, and the same roughly as Quebec.

        • arcosenate says:

          Yes I do realize that, we were comparing state and province though. For ON and QC:

          Ontarians earning more than $509,000 in 2013 face a combined federal/provincial marginal tax rate of 49.5% while Quebecers who earn more than $100,000 and Nova Scotians who earn more than $150,000 currently pay tax at combined marginal tax rates of 50%.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
      Follow
      Extensions RT @Real_ESPNLeBrun Marleau’s 3-year deal is worth $6.66 M a year AAV; Thornton’s deal is $6.75 M a year AAV.

      Ooops sorry Shiram, you already posted.

  12. Steeltown Hab says:

    I don’t get why MB is so eager to deal Bourque.

    – Value is at an all time low
    – He actually has size
    – Contract is only 3.3 for 2 more yrs (Cheaper than DD and Briere and less or same term)

    Why don’t we facilitate getting a guy like Bourque going which is what we need (size and goal scoring) the same way we do everything possible to get Desharnais going ?

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • Mattyleg says:

      It can be argued that he has been given tons of chances to succeed; matched with Plekanec, who tends to make everyone look better (see: Moen, Travis) and given tons of PP time.

      And he hasn’t responded like DD did.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • rhino514 says:

      I agree with the above. The media guys (including Boone) are being quite unforgiving with this guy. Why are they so sure it´s all about lack of passion? Can it, oh, I don´t know a combination of:
      a)He is the forward who gets moved around the most by Therrien, no chance to establish any type of chemistry
      b) heseems to have taken some serious bumps the last few seasons
      and finally, and this is the biggie c) He isn´t nearly as incredibly gifted and talented all of these announcers make him out to be. He´s a big body who can pot a few dirty goals by hanging around the net, but a sharpshooter, he sure ain´t. He has a lot of just missed goals because I actually see him try pretty hard out there, but he just doesn´t have much accuracy.
      I think he´s good to have for the playoffs, and if used intelligently during the regular season can help out with timely goals. He´s better than having another smurf, for sure.

    • jols101 says:

      I would agree, if he wasn’t on his umpteenth chance. His lack of desire and consistency is not just a Montreal phenomena. He was like that in Calgary as well.

      In a perfect world, he would go on a bit of a hot streak and raise his value and then we trade him. But we might be waiting a very long time for that to happen.

    • Bripro says:

      oh Steeltown’s general point of view on things….

    • Harditya says:

      His value has been at an all time low for 3 years now.
      1st season with Habs: 5 goals in 38 games
      2nd season: 7 goals in 27 games
      3rd season: 7 goals in 37 games
      What makes MB think that he will pick it up anytime soon if he hasn’t in 3 years, he’s only going to regress from here.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        He’s a better fit for the 3rd line than Prust who’s lost when transitioning through the neutral zone.
        ———————————

        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • boing007 says:

      De La Rose. Has a nice French ring to it.

      Richard R

  13. rhino514 says:

    I´m glad Beaulieu is looking quite comfortable out there. As green as he is, he´s probably as big a liability as diaz and Bouillon and already less of a liability than Murray. However, he will get better with every game, so I´m glad he is finally getting a chance, and it´s probably good for him that we are so thin on D.
    The thing is, we ideally needed a solid defensive Dman, which he isn´t. Tinordi doesn´t seem to be as solid (yet) as many of us were hoping for (was he perhaps overhyped?) and management doesn´t seem sold on Pateryn, who was never projected as more than a 5th or 6th D anyway.
    It would be interesting to get some info from those who follow the dogs closely to know if Tiny is indeed the defensive shutdown force on the team, because, even for the minors, he sure isn´t putting up any point totals.

  14. Mattyleg says:

    Totally off-topic, but saw this this morning and thought it was amazing:

    It’s a parody of the ‘business card’ scene and ‘axe murder’ scene from American Psycho, only using hipsters and jeans.

    Extremely good, and funny.

    NOT for the faint of heart (graphic violence, language)

    Here are the original scenes:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISYzA36-ZY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyJxZ8LXPcI

    Here is the parody:
    http://elitedaily.com/humor/hipsters-ruin-everything-this-denim-ad-parodies-the-best-scene-from-american-psycho-video/

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. jo_maka says:

    Don’t see it happening, but what could it take to pry Shattenkirk out of St Louis ?

    Daydreaming, I know……
    _________________________________
    Open-mindedness is not a skull fracture

  16. saskhabsfan says:

    The longer MB waits to make a change the further we fall in the standings! MT has lost this team, bring in knuckles Nilan to straighten them out!

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      You may be right….just heard on TSN690 that some players are against MT and it was reported by Francis Gagnon. It seems a number of Habs have made it clear to MB that they are not happy with the coaching in general. This will excite Timo for sure……if it really true. Got to think PK was involved via his meeting with MB yesterday

  17. frontenac1 says:

    Ding Ding amigos! Gaby Roch of the Jonquiere Marquis now leading the LNAH in wins @ 64%. 6ft4in ,228 lbs 26 years old.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-N3JSXrgvM

  18. B says:

    Nathan MacKinnon leads all rookies with 33 points. Without looking, who is 2nd among rookies in points?

    Hint: He won the Memorial Cup and WHL playoff MVP as a 17 year old rookie. He has also won WJC gold and the Calder Cup but at 5’9″ went undrafted by any NHL team.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  19. wjc says:

    The mountain is too high,
    The valley is too deep,
    Oh woe is me, oh woe is me,

    Detriot is headed for defeat,
    But what does it mean,
    Is it good, or is it bad’
    Is Montreal then good,
    Or is Detriot just bad,

    Explain it please, before I burst,
    Is Therien to blame for victory,
    Is it the players that win and coach that loses,

    My life is empty, my poetry is bad,
    Oh woe is me, oh woes is me.

    (TRANSCRIPTS $5.00…Copyright violations will be prosecuted)

    wjc

  20. Mick says:

    Is this our team?
    :)
    Grinder (ice hockey)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In ice hockey, a grinder is a player better known for his hard work and checking than his scoring.[1][2] A grinder is often a player who has limited offensive skills, but is valuable to a hockey team due to physical forechecking skills especially along the boards; for “grinding along the boards”.[3] The grinder is not in the spotlight as would be the offensively skilled scoring stars, but they are often fan favorites due to their work effort in games.[4] Thus the grinder is often the player who, by their willingness to endure the physical abuse of going into the corners to dig out the puck, often sets up the goals for the team’s offensive stars. It is common belief in hockey that a good team needs a balance of scoring stars and grinders.[5]
    Hockey player warms up prior to a game as he intensely looks at the camera

    Dave Bolland, at the time playing for the Chicago Blackhawks, was named “Best Grinder” by the Hockey News in 2012.
    While grinder often refers to a player of lesser offensive skills, this is not always the case. NHL Hall of Fame inductee Bobby Clarke of the 1970s and 80s Philadelphia Flyers was considered a grinder, but was also a reliable goal-scorer.[3] While a “grinder” plays a physical style of hockey they are distinguished from an “enforcer”, whose role is more physical intimidation and engaging in fights which are not within the rules of hockey. A “grinder” refers specifically to a style of defensive hockey which is within the rules of the game.[6] Sometimed grinder is used in combination with “mucker” to describe a player as a “mucker and a grinder”,[7] although it is used as emphasis. In this context, mucker is largely synonymous with grinder.[1]
    Indicative of the importance of the grinder is that Bobby Clarke and Mike Eruzione, both grinder-style players, played major roles in their respective country’s victories over the offensively skilled Soviet Union national team. Bobby Clarke was a significant factor in Team Canada’s victory in the 1972 Super Series as was Mike Eruzione as Captain for United States’ Olympic team in the 1980 Miracle on Ice victory.[8] Clarke received the Selke Trophy as best defensive forward late in his playing career.
    In 2012, the Hockey News named Dave Bolland of the NHL Chicago Blackhawks as “Best Grinder”.[9]

    :)
    MT is lost!
    He needs help. Timooooooooooooooooo….

    • jo_maka says:

      ”Hockey player warms up prior to a game as he intensely looks at the camera”

      Random but nice :)
      _________________________________
      Open-mindedness is not a skull fracture

    • Bripro says:

      “Bobby Clarke was a significant factor in Team Canada’s victory in the 1972 Super Series”
      You got that right.
      He learned how to turn his hockey stick into a machete.
      Don’t like him ….. never did.

  21. GL says:

    Not the Coach. It’s the players. Crosby could score 30-40 goals playing on a line with Moen and Parros. He’s a real player, Scorer and a excellent playmaker. Look what he’s doing with Kunitz. If kunitz were playing with Plekanec. He’d have more like 15-20 points.
    we need players that can score on a consistent basis and you wouldn’t see all the line changes.

  22. Ian Cobb says:

    We are playing another good team tonight, not as great as a few years ago but a very well coached team. We need these two points very badly tonight.
    And tomorrow night in our barn we get the Caps without the big O playing. I will be at that game and onto Hurley’s pub to celebrate the win. (2nd floor)

  23. The Juice says:

    I’d rather see Briere on the wing with Pleks and Eller in his natural position…

    Eller has been challenged to adjust to playing the wing…

    My 2 cents…

    __________________________________________________________________________

    “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”
    @JohnnytheJuice

    • rljmartin says:

      Eller is not a winger…period.

      • CJ says:

        Agreed. Not sure why we wish to displace someone with a future in this organization, for a 35 year old who would be traded if there was a willing partner. Eller is part of our young core. Get him with Galley and Chucky when he returns. If this is not our year, we need to turn our focus to development and preparation for the future.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I think forwards should be able to be adaptable.
        He still hasn’t developed the vision at centre that people said that he would. He is big, but otherwise…

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Winger to Center can be done, Center to Wing is harder for the Center to adapt. As a center you are creative and able to set plays from anywhere on the ice, when you are put on the wing your ice is limited….well it’s limited to the system the Habs play.

          Shane Oliver
          Twitter @Sholi2000
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        • Forum Dog says:

          He’s big, can dangle, wins faceoffs at a rate considerably higher than the others. At this stage in his development I don’t really get moving him, but you know he’ll give it a good go. Someone pointed out the other night that the result was having Plekanec, Desharnais and Briere as your top three centres, which is problematic on a few levels….

    • Sakus Evil Twin says:

      agree.

      No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

  24. twilighthours says:

    So Bergevin met with PK. Any tangible info on what it was about?

    I’m out of the loop today.

  25. rljmartin says:

    Question mark for Wings’ game is will HABS be able to contain Zetter in the O-zone? He is seriously hard on the puck…..

  26. Mattyleg says:

    I wonder about that ‘grinding team’ that Therrien was talking about.

    I imagine that he meant that he wanted us to be a team that was difficult to play against because of our work-ethic, much like a line of grinders doesn’t have sick skillllzzz, but busts its hump and makes life difficult for the opposition.

    We played like that in the early days of the season, and it paid off for us; we were tough to play against, and gave up very few goals. Problem was that our offense dried up.

    Credit Therrien for knowing that we don’t have the top skills to make us a ‘finesse’ team or a ‘skill’ team, but ‘grinding team’ is a bit of a misnomer, I believe.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      If that’s the case the results have been very underwhelming ever since that declaration of his.
      Again raising the question of his quality as a communicator.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Yeah, I agree about the bad results, but I think it has more to do with their attempt to increase goalscoring (to the detriment of defence) than anything else.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • jols101 says:

      You should apply for membership to the Justice League. The ability to read minds would most certainly qualify as a super hero of some type. Tell me, what was Therrien thinking when he said that he would make Subban a better person? I would love to know.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I’m already part of the Justice League.
        And I don’t need to use my superhero skills for this simple exercise!
        It’s called being able to use interpretive abilities to determine the reasoning behind someone’s statements.

        I studied English Literature, and much of my work involved looking at the written word (and sometimes film), and bringing to bear a number of different interpretive approaches on that work, in order to gain a better understanding of either the author’s intent, or the character’s motivations.

        And you’re right, I probably shouldn’t try any further feats of interpretation. It makes me sound really stupid, as your comment points out.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Bripro says:

          I’ll give you this, Matt.
          You’re a master of subtlety and below-the-radar sarcasm.
          Sorry, but if someone tugs on my chain, I’ve been taught to say what I think.
          Jols wouldn’t have received the same reply from me.

        • jols101 says:

          Well, I was joking. It was intended more as a jab at Therrien because most people need super hero mind reading abilities to decipher the jiberish that comes out of his mouth. Didn’t mean to tug on anyone’s chain. I don’t do the yellow winky faces.

    • boing007 says:

      Grinding team. It got lost in translation. Someone get MT an interpreter.

      Richard R

  27. jimmy shaker says:

    If I go to the joe tonight……obviously I want to see a win…….but I want to see PK score a howitzer on the PP from the point from marky past the monster and also a huge PK body check that has really disappeared from his game.

    Shaker out!

  28. scarboro_habitant says:

    habs should take shot on byfuglien and play him on the wing and in front of the net. him and borque have the same length left with RB making less money by just under 2 mill. would save the jets some probably much needed money. doesnt sound like theyre too happy with buf these days either.


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