Audio: Price signs for six years, $39 million

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At a media briefing that was delayed twice on Monday, Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced goaltender Carey Price has signed a new, six-year contract with the team.
Price, who became a Restricted Free Agent on Canada Day, was scheduled to go to salary arbitration with the Canadiens.
That won’t happen.

Price’s deal will earn him $39 million – six equal cap hits of $6.5 million – and take him to the age of 30 … when a goaltender usually enters his prime.

(Seem like a lot of scratch? Warren Buffett made $192.5 million ON MONDAY)

Price made $2.75 million last season.

Price will make a bit more than Cam Ward and Ryan Miller, less than Henrik Lundqvist and Pekka Rinne.

Bergevin said he had spent Monday finalizing the details of Price’s contract. He described Price as “one of the best young goaltenders in the league” and a cornerstone of the Canadiens’ future success.

The GM says he still “window-shopping” for potential additions to the team.

“We’re looking,” Bergevin said. “My goal is to improve the team in all aspects.”

• The Canadiens webs site has a collection of Price’s best saves

• The classy Mathieu Darche on Twitter: Félicitations ! Congrats ! Awesome guy! Great teammate!

Sports Illustrated’s Michael Farber on Twitter: Thought Price would be Vezina material in 11-12. If he gets some D help, still think he has that kind of season in him.

The official announcement:

Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced Monday the signing of goaltender Carey Price to a six-year contract (2012-13 to 2017-18). As per club policy, financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

Price, 24, completed his fifth season with the Canadiens in the NHL in 2011-12. In 65 games, the 6’03’’, 221 lbs goaltender maintained a record of 26 wins, 28 losses and 11 overtime/shootout losses. He recorded four shutouts with a 2.43 goals against average. Price stopped 1,754 of the 1,914 shots he faced for a .916 save percentage.

Since 2007-08, Price displays a 124-104-35 record in 271 regular season games. He ranks tied for 11th in team’s history with 16 shutouts. He shows a 2.56 goals against average and a .916 save percentage.

Price was the Molson Cup recipient for the months of October, November, December and February, to earn the honours for the 2011-12 season. The netminder took part in his third All-Star Game, held last January in Ottawa.

A native of Anahim Lake, British Columbia, Price was the Canadiens’ first pick (first round, fifth overall) at the 2005 NHL Entry Draft.

1,314 Comments

  1. frontenac1 says:

    Michael Farber is good writer but sometimes I find he gets caught up in the Cult Of Personality. Darche is good ,intelligent man and I wish him the best,but honestly,he was lucky to be offered any contract by the Habs.He chose to refuse. That’s all she wrote.

  2. Timo says:

    Forget this whole UFA/RFA nonsense. THIS is the big one – Tom and Kate are in a custody battle – http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/celebrity/Katie+Holmes+faces+Cruise+Scientology+custody/6875736/story.html

  3. awesomerino says:

    Hate what Jack Todd has to say? Write your very own Jack Todd column!

    It’s easy!
    1.) Get blindingly drunk.
    2.) Open with 18 consecutive ampersands (“&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&”)
    3.) Tie subject of column to bitter commentary about Vietnam.
    4.) Find a way to blame Jeffrey Loria and David Samson for whatever’s bothering you. Bonus points if you can work Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, and Bud Selig into it, too.
    5.) Praise the Alouettes and the CFL in general.

    You’ve done it! You’re now an accomplished ‘journalist’!

  4. Phil C says:

    Many posts about Gomez today so I will wade into the discussion. It was mentioned below that Gomez’s game might no longer be suited to a trapping game, but I am not convinced that is the entire problem. He is still very effective in the neutral zone and gains the blueline as well as anyone in the league. In fact, I think his stick handling skills in the neutral zone are a good way to beat the trap besides chip and chase. But once he crosses the blueline, it all falls apart for Gomez. He used to continue to the net or at least get the puck to the net. If you watch this Gomez compilation, he would generate a lot of offense through creating chaos by attacking the net with speed, either with or without the puck (and he can still skate). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNYGipZBgs

    But in recent years he has been stopping after gaining the blueline and staying at the perimeter, or trying low percentage cross ice passes instead of attacking the net or passing to the net. I think this is a problem between Gomez’s ears, not with a change in the game. I suspect that this is why when asked about the decline of Gomez’s game in a recent interview, Glen Sather simply replied “it’s complicated.”

    The most obvious stat to support my “Gomez has stopped going to the net” theory is that he was the only forward who played more than 35 games to not score a 5-on-5 goal last year. Even Staubitz, Geoffrion, Palushaj and Blunden managed to score at least one. If you stop going to the net you will not score goals at any level, yet alone in the NHL.

    Part of the problem has been coaching. Hal Gill said it best that players like Cammy and Gomez need to play with the puck and that asking them to play a chip and chase game was a big mistake with the old coaching staff. But the biggest part of the problem is that Gomez has lost his will to attack the net, probably because other teams defend that area so strongly and violently.

    If I was Bergevin, I would be willing to give Gomez a very short leash in training camp. Give him Gionta, a playing-making left winger who can score and have the coaching staff let him play with the puck, even if it means more turn-overs. Maybe Therrien can convince him to go to the net if he is allowed to play his own game. But if he stays at the perimeter, you will know that there is no hope and that he must be sent to the minors. His skating ability should not trick anyone into thinking he is still an NHL player.

    • pmaraw says:

      gomez has lost confidence in his skating with the puck abilities. I remember one game he was standing against the boards, just stickhandling away, standing still, and he actually just lost the puck and it floated 2 feet in front of him to the defender. If you want someone to skate the puck into the zone, try eller, cause it sure isnt gomez. In fact, it’s possible that having gomez around is inhibiting eller’s development in a ‘you mean i only have to top that’ sort of way.

  5. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Why is Jack Todd such an idiot? Why does Jack Todd get paid to write about sports? Why does anyone care what Jack Todd thinks? Where does Jack Todd keep his head when it isn’t up his backside? How high is up? Where’s my shovel? Hey this writing stuff is easy!!!

  6. aemarchand11 says:

    Just because Gomez will stay with the organization doesnt mean he will play on the habs. I am hoping Galchenyuk/Leblanc have a great camp and thus resulting in a 7.3 Cap relief.

  7. joeybarrie says:

    Oh jack todd.
    my question is how do you get your drivel published.

    Quick is 2 years older than Price. They have the same lifetime sv%.
    INCLUDING this season where they won the Cup. So it goes to say, maybe the Kings have a better team in front of him…
    Didn’t I read an article not that long ago saying that YOU WERE WRONG about Price???
    How many times are you gonna flip flop?
    So Price doesn’t go around punching people, taking fits and showing the ‘fire’ in his belly. Well JACK, Price saves the same amount of pucks coming his way. Also JACK, I don’t see Quick showing his ‘fire’.
    What? A supposedly great hockey player wears a cowboy hat to accept an award while he is injured. Obviously he doesn’t care then.
    What a stupid thing to say. Guy Lafleur would smoke in the bathroom in between periods and party all night, win or lose… No one said Lafleur didn’t care.
    Among other stupid things to say. No one wants Latendresse…
    He has 33 goals in his last 82 games. If he can manage to stay healthy its 20-25 goals for the season, for a million???? Best deal in the NHL.
    But then again when you got egg on your face you won’t mention a thing. Except in a season or two you’ll come back to say you were wrong about Price, and then flip flop again after one bad game.
    Did you really ask why people think the Habs got tougher signing THREE tough guys, who can play a bit of hockey too by the way, and not ONE tough guy who can fight????? HEY JACK, BGL can fight… But if the other guy don’t fight him, he is useless.
    As a sports writer do you really think one fighter is better than a full line of toughness????? And yet someone publishes your stupidity.
    And lastly did you just ask why Free Agency (IN JULY) produces more questions than answers??????
    Are you aware answers cannot be reached until the team hits the ice???
    Honestly…. 30 years of writing like its his first hockey game.
    oh yeah, one more thing… You were hating on PG for controlling too much of the team. MB hires a coach, and he actually lets him hire his own assistants….. AND YOU THINK IT MAKES NO SENSE????

  8. habsfanincalgary says:

    Some random thoughts:

    – I’m a little disappointed that the Big Bird is not part of the coaching staff.
    – I said it last year and I’m going to be forced to say it again. This team lacks identity. Perhaps it will be one of Price with the new contract. Curious to hear what you have to say? I think in the past, it was Koivu’s team…not sure if it has that same ring as “Gio’s team.”
    – What’s the status of Gomer? The cap room that would be freed up would allow MB greater flexibility.
    – I’m hoping the PP gets better this year. PK’s shot replaces the big shot from the past (Souray, MAB, Schneider, Streit).
    – The team needs major improvement on the shootout. Just look at last year’s results. Any of the additions will not help.
    – Jagr would look good in a Habs uniform. I think he’d work well with Pleks and Gio. A seasoned vetern presence in the dressing room would also go a long way. But $4 mil from what I heard of an asking price may be a little steep.
    – I’m not so sure Niko was worth re-signing…
    – Here’s hoping to getting a ‘high impact’ player from the remaining free agents…

    Love to hear your thoughts…

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    How do you keep gainful employment as a sports columnist when you write things like:

    “Cory Schneider, who at this stage is also a far better goalie [than Price]…”?

    Schneider has played 68 regular season games.

    His career playoff record is 1-2.

    One win and two losses. Lifetime.

    Now, I’m not saying Schneider isn’t going to be a good one, but by what measure could he possibly be rated as “far better” than Price? Based on what evidence?

    (On the other hand, he’s right about Sundin.)

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      He just kept gainful employment because you’re talking about it, now people will read it…that’s the whole idea.

    • Bill J says:

      Todd is doing what I suggested below about Gomez.

      If he gets his way – Hab fans start clamouring for a Schneider for Price trade. Thankfully the advent of the internet exists nowadays, and Todd’s BS can be debunked very quickly.

      Go Habs Go!

  10. alfieturcotte says:

    I meant the free agents he picked up.

    Gionta is ok, Bourque belongs in the AHL.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Bourque scored 27 goals 2 years in a row and was on that same pace when he came to a dysfuctional Habs team. For fans to write him off is utterly ridiculous. Thank God MB has stated that they are not ready to give up on him yet.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • HabFan in Edmonton says:

        I totally agree with your comments on Bourque, I expect him to have a much better year , glad some of these fans are not the GM.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        Did you watch Bourque play w/the Habs? No chemistry with Pleks.

        Never seen such a soft “power” forward. He was highly unimpressive. I don’t care how he did in the past. There is a reason Calgary traded him – sadly PG did not do any diligence on him. His fat contract for the next several years will make it very difficult to trade him.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          So you judge him on 38 games in Montreal instead of the 249 games before that in which he scored 88 goals?
          Of course there’s a reason he was traded, but the fact is he has been a very good goal scorer pretty recently, and very consistent until he got to Montreal. Even when Calgary traded him he was on pace for 27 goals for the 3rd straight year. And for that many goals, the contract is actually pretty reasonable.
          The only question is whether he has chemistry with his linemates. Try not to forget that he didn’t get to play with Gionta last year. It’s a new year and MB & MT will definitely give him a chance.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  11. Bill J says:

    OK, here’s a wacky idea. Let’s start saying how great Gomez is. Everywhere, on twitter on other blogs. Non stop. Also add how great he would fit in with any of the cap floor teams.

    Let’s help MB and prove we are the greatest fans in Hockey (god knows it would take that to stomach pretending what I’m suggesting)

    I nominate Ian Cobb leader of our movement. I think we all see what he’s trying to do here today.

    Go Habs Go!

  12. Ian Cobb says:

    Gomez!
    By the time the Summit rolls around on Oct 27th, Gomez will be in his new roll as a Hab under Therrien and playing well!

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  13. adamkennelly says:

    really would have preferred a Brookbank or Allen as opposed to Frankie….does not intimidate anyone…Carkner would have been great but not at those numbers…

  14. 123456 says:

    better GAA than ryam miller
    less OT losses than quick

    i know some of you are not happy with the mega bucks going to price – – but you have to pay for a good goalie. there were not many bad goals givin up by price last season….. we all can agree the team in front of him is just not that great… getting better but not great.

    • Rob says:

      there will always be people who are unhappy, regardless of the scenario. Trying to convince them to be otherwise will only serve to frustrate you and make you less happy. Therefore….the best course is to just let people be! :P

      The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

    • alfieturcotte says:

      Price 33 and 34th in the league in GAA and Save % in 2012. Maybe 20th in both if you discount some goalies.

  15. Sir.Plekers says:

    MB has not done anything yet this free agent frenzy other then sign boullion.Armstrong will be a healthy scratch 90 percent of the time and Prust was a dumb signing when they could have signed Crabbe for 1 year 950 000.Don’t even get me started on Therrien and also has said that he is not getting jagr or semin.Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta will not get it done!

  16. Ian Cobb says:

    Gomez
    A lot of people do not understand that Gomez is staying on our roster this year, and next as well.

    With the right coaching philosophy and correct players on the ice with him, he is still a good player. He has not lost his speed game, he just has to fit with two players on a line that complement each other, he certainly still has his speed.

    The right coaching philosophy will make a huge difference in his effectiveness.

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    • Sir.Plekers says:

      Ya he will stilllllllllllllllllll be on the roster :(

      SIR PLEKERS

    • Bill J says:

      I dunno Ian… Not worthy of a 7million cap hit.

      Do I think he has enough value to warrant 4.5 million ? Ie the price a cap floor team would actually pay Gomez this year… Under good coaching you mention… Yes I agree. But not in Montreal.

      Go Habs Go!

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Maybe not the correct salary contract Bill, but Slats made that contract, not us. So we just have to swallow hard. Apart from the bucks, which I agee its obscene, he will have a much better year playing for Therrien.
        J. Martin was a complete joke, no one wanted to play his kind of game.

        • Bill J says:

          I don’t think you understood my post Ian.

          Gomez’s cap hit is 7 Million throughout the length of this contract.
          However, this season marks the beginning of the cheap salary years (actual money paid to Gomez)

          Makes him much more valuable if worth 4.5 million to a cap floor team. Creates artificial cap space without committing long term to some UFA at a much worse cap hit.

          Go Habs Go!

        • Bill J says:

          . Double post sorry

    • chelseafan says:

      Whatever the case may be- it is not credible to have him eat up 7.3 million of cap space- think of what we could get instead. Nothing personal-just logic.

    • 123456 says:

      i’ll add that while a buyout is an option – it’s not logical IMO. Habs would have a cap hit of over $3.6M for each of the next 4 years. Ownership needs to bite the bullet and stick him in hamilton.

    • chelseafan says:

      The question is… would this be (keeping gomer) an itelligent decision?

      • GrimJim says:

        Here’s a question: do WE need Gomez’s cap hit to keep above the salary floor? Someone said at the end of last season that for more than half of the games last year the cap hit for the actual playing roster was less than the salary floor. I’m pretty sure one of either Gionta or Gomez never went on long term injured reserve because of that. Without Gomez and with PK @ $3 mil our cap hit is at 59 mil. If one or more of our $5 mil players gets injured we drop below the floor and get penalized as much as if we went over.

    • New says:

      I agree with you. Besides if he could get his sorry self into shape and play like he can play he would be valuable. Right now he is difficult to move (on the ice and between teams) because he was misused and in charge of his own self. 60 -70 point a year players don’t just become 11 point a year players in their prime.

    • DCH says:

      I admire your positive attitude. Count me among your supporters in hoping that Gomez improves under Therrien. Rather than throwing him under the bus, why don’t we try and be optimistic?

      Despite arguments that “the game has changed” and Gomez “can’t adapt”, he was not so long ago a C who could put up 60-70 pts in a season.

  17. srq3000 says:

    I guess I missed all the Price comments but here’s my 2c; he was already paid too much last year. Need a team in front of the goaler. Don’t want to spend another year losing in penalty kicks!

  18. alfieturcotte says:

    Congrats to Jack Todd for stating the painful truth about Price – as difficult as it is for most to hear. At this stage in his career, the contract is a huge gamble.

    Nothing there yet to merit the big $$$ received. Underachieved in his career to date, overrated, and worse of all – and I fear this most – does not have the killer instinct of a Roy.

    • Mattyleg says:

      The only congratulations Jack Todd will ever be deserving of will be for relinquishing any word-processing device forever.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Bill says:

      So you agree with him? I will take that into consideration when I get around to reading Todd’s latest foray into trying to say something intelligent about hockey.

      When it comes to hockey, Todd sure knows a lot about NCAA football.

      To paraphrase Grapes, Todd wouldn’t know a goalie if he slept with Patrick Roy.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Jack Todd has been sitting on the fence so long his a$$ has splinters. I’ve never seen a professional(?) journalist flip flop so blatantly, he’s done it forever. I’ve seen articles of his that completely contradict each other that were written mere weeks apart. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& he’s a douche of the highest order.

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    • Hobie Hansen says:

      When he reports the news he’s OK…but his own opinion really means nothing more than the average fan. He’s not a hockey guy.

    • New says:

      No Alfie Turcotte’s contract was a huge gamble. Price’s is a great deal.

  19. Shackles says:

    How’s this scenario; August 13th, Scott Hannan is UFA. He’s solid, knows his job and plays right D which the Habs are lacking. I also think there will be alot of interest if MB throws Kaberle’s name out there as being available as well – just to free up a bit of cap space. Lastly, I think we should hold on to Gomez until late October to see if he can find his game again. It’s not as if he’s lazy or is dispised by his teamates. It’s the simple fact that the entire league has figured out his little dipsy-doodle rush. Who knows, maybe Therrien can get something going with him.

    • Ali says:

      interest in Kaberle? From whom? Not in the NHL, and as of you can’t trade with the KHL…

      • Bill says:

        If the Habs decide to part ways with Kaberle, it will be shown that there will indeed be interest from teams in need of PP specialist at a cap hit of 4.25 million for just two years.

        Kaberle had 22 points as a Hab, second most among our D to Subban. But Kaberle did that in 43 games, so in terms of PPG, he was the highest-scoring D-man on the team.

        Defensively, the Habs were a shit-show most of the time in general, but Kaberle’s +/- as a Hab was still better than Gill’s, Weber’s, Diaz’s, and especially Emelin’s. Only Subban and Gorges did better among regular D.

        The criticism of Kaberle is all based on the fact that a lot of people don’t like his “European” game: he’s soft, and people hate him for it. But if you think he’s the worst defenceman on the team, or not a capable player, or that no other team would take him … that’s not correct.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • Ian Cobb says:

          I agree bill.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Touché.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • pher pher says:

          I agree as well.

        • Shackles says:

          I’m not saying he’s terrible. Truth be told, I’ve always been a Kaberle fan. I was just throwing around the idea of freeing up a bit of cash for a new wing man for Pleks. He’s probably more attractive in trading cicles than Gomez and perhaps a little more expendable if Subban & Markov are on their game.

        • habstrinifan says:

          You present a good case but….

          I do like your and Ian’s optimism that both Kaberle and Gomez will be ‘improved’ under the new coach. You cartainly are going against recent track records of both players and also the coach himself.

        • Ali says:

          I hope you’re right, and am always prepared to admit I’m wrong. But the fact is the Islanders for the past two seasons have been desperate to take on salary and add to their defensive position, the fact that that they didnt acquire Kaberle last year (and wouldnt even have insisted on giving back salary to stay at the floor like we did with Spatcho) shows me that even the worst teams in the league had no interest in him.

        • Ali says:

          also, my critcisim of Kaberle has little to do with his “softness” because Markov i love and he has no demonstrated physicality, but its his fitness that was most concerning to me. He was obviously (and reportedly) very out of shape, and showed no interest in improving that throughout the year. With Therrien’s track record, wouldnt be surprised to see him start the year in the press box until he straightens out.

          And you think for a team that was selling at the deadline, that they chose to actually make him not available at any time? Or were they so overwhelmed with offers that they just couldnt decide which one was better?

        • New says:

          Bang on Bill. You won’t change minds with reasoning but it is nice to hear fact cited now and then rather than simple references to Kaberle’s impersonation of a vacuum.

    • Bill says:

      Ed Lopaz pretty neatly explained the problem with Gomez yesterday: his game doesn’t fit the game as it is played today. It’s ineffective against the trap, and just about EVERYBODY traps now. This is why we always see Gomez rush up the ice with blazing speed … and be forced to either dump it (and then lose the battle for it) or make a forced pass that gets broken up. Either way … turnover.

      Not much a coach can do about that. Gomez isn’t going to become a puck-battler at this stage of his career.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • twilighthours says:

        He also is very poor at controlling the puck once he’s been bodied, even in the slightest. The defending team lets him carry it, they wedge him to the boards, he turns it over. It’s so ugly and painful.

        • Bill says:

          Gomez is indeed hard to watch. I feel sorry for him (ish). I mean I’d feel sorrier for him if it seemed like it bothered him at all. But I guess that’s where the expression “crying all the way to the bank” comes from!

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Ian Cobb says:

            With the right coach putting the correct people with him, will make a huge difference in his game. He has not lost his speed !

      • christophor says:

        Was thinking he might actually work on the 3rd line, on the wing, next to Eller and Moen/Bork. Maybe it could work if he returns to being good defensively. That can be a shutdown line that can counter well on the rush. On the counter-attack against a top-2 line is the only time the rush game frequently generates a chance; the opposing forwards haven’t the time to get back and defend (i.e. set up the trap).

      • Rob says:

        I’m confused as to how the frequent use of the trap is the explanation for Gomez’s poor play. I may be wrong, but weren’t some of his best seasons played during the pre-lockout trap era?

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    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I personally don’t think kaberle would get any interest. Some people say I’m wrong but that’s my opinion.

      And Hannan has slowly deteriorated ever since leaving San Jose years ago. He was once considered a top four, even a top two, shut down defenseman, played for team Canada, but totally dropped off shortly after.

      He’s had mediocre to bad seasons every since leaving SJ.

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        Just kidding – good luck with your blog.

        Go Habs Go!

  20. krob1000 says:

    Erik Johnson deal probably sets the bar for Subban..he got 15 million over years. That makes me think Subban will get around 17-18 million over the same term.

  21. habstrinifan says:

    OK! This has got to change!

    Last year one second after Free Agency started I said go get Shane O’brien. Please go get Shane O’Brien. No one listened. O’Brien went to Colorado and well he’s doing better that O’Byrne.

    This year I said go get Sheldon Brookbank Please go get Sheldon Brookbank. No one listened and he went to Chicago.. a great bargain for them.

    So drop everything.. and listen UP! Go get Kent Huskins from St. Louis. I’ll pause while you look up his stats/stature.

    Ok! I tried!

  22. HardHabits says:

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  23. Bill says:

    Colby Armstrong: 439GP – 87G – 117A – 204PTS – 0.46PPG 1million/year

    Jiri Hudler: 409GP – 87G – 127A – 214PTS – 0.52PPG – 4 million/year

    And Armstrong is big and physical whereas Hudler is small and not.

    It’s an interesting comparison. Not saying Armstrong is as good as Hudler, but his career numbers are close and he brings intangibles. I think Rick Dudley’s big mitts are all over this signing. He knows Armstrong from his Toronto days and guaranteed he urged Bergevin to pick up this as a gamble that could be a huge bargain.

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  24. habs_54321 says:

    i posted this last night after 1 so i just wanted to repost it and see if anyone shares simular thoughts,

    so whats left to do this off-season??

    from what i can quickly draw up their isn’t much almost everything has been covered already and its only day 2 of free agency!!!!

    1. Sign PK!,,,,, will be done he’s RFA no worries term and salary is the question mark

    2. find second line winger,. Way i see it is their is multiple scenarios

    A. Signing doan or jagr have to be the best case scenario here both players bring proven production, leadership, and have ties to key players on the team (price and plekanec)

    B. Plan B can be to sign a player of lesser calibre but with production potential many suitors available a few of note are Steve sullivan(perfect fit is a definate stopgap), brunette, huselius, holmstrom, kotalik, AK47…., sykora, langenbrunner, semin??

    C. Trading depth at Center and D for wing position. IMO we are over deep at D and C positions right now, Weber, diaz and kaberle are tradeable assets while we have somewhat a logjam of second line centers borderline number 1 centers,

    to many trading targets to list a few are the usual bobby ryan, evander kane, nash, patrick kane?? although these are unlikely scenarios.. more reasonable targets are Paajarvi from EDM (Diaz for paajarvi??), Hemsky, umberger, marleau, chris stewart,

    D. Plan D is to be steady as she goes and hope bourque will be the top six forward he once was plan b from their is leblanc/gallagher this situation can get messy if injuries pile up in the top six.

    • TaxGuy says:

      I actually prefer Plan D. I realize Bourque did virtually nothing after joining the team last year. There is no excuse for that, but I would like to see how he responds to a new coaching staff, new work environment and better over all team depth. If he responds well, it may help us get into a playoff position, or he could be moved at the deadline next year. I still think we should try to get a crease clearing D for the 3rd pairing as well.

    • chelseafan says:

      Kotalik perhaps, but I am still thinking plan A at this point.

  25. Bripro says:

    Hey! Now I’m Punkster, and I can edit any and all of the posts!
    Hmmm, interesting!
    Let’s see… who stays and who goes? 8)

    EDIT:

    I’ve lost the privilege of being the punkster-meister.
    It was fun while it lasted.
    BTW don’t expect him to MOD your profile…it was all tongue-in-cheek!
    Had a few of you going though eh? eh?

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  26. Bripro says:

    The team has $8mm left in cap space.
    And Subban, Diaz and Eller to sign.
    In reality, I don’t see how Gomez can stay on the team, even though MB said yesterday that there would be no buy-out.
    Either that, or they’ve figured out a different strategy to bury Kaberlazy’s contract, or trade him.

    • chelseafan says:

      MB said he was part of the team- but that was as of the press conference. Everybody knows that there is no possible way Gomez can be in the line up next year (especially if we have a chance to get Doan or Jagr)- unless of course MB can put up the facade that he wants to win when in reality Mr. Molson does not want to lose his pennies. Let us wait until the roster is announced before boycotting Molson.

      • Timo says:

        Well, you don’t have to play on ice to be part of the team. He can be a towel boy, a masseur, a mexican chef… there are plenty ways to contribute.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Rumour has it that Marc Bergevin’s been in contact with Tonya Harding.

    • knob says:

      Subban – 4-5mil;
      Diaz – 1-1.5 mil; and
      Eller – 2-2.5 mil

      It will be tight

      ef this

      • Bripro says:

        I don’t think Subban will be offered that much.
        2 years, $3.5MM…tops.

        • habstrinifan says:

          Have you seen the contracts for dfenseman UFA’s. If that is ‘tops’ then why should Subban accept it?

          • Bripro says:

            He’s a very young RFA, with issues.
            The team will want some consistency and maturing from him before they lay out that much money.

          • Bill J says:

            Issues? Since when did it become an issue when a player gave a damn around here ?

            His only issue last year was the Penguin behind the bench who couldn’t focus Subban.

            Kinda like how Melanson almost f-Ed up Carey a few years ago by trying to change him.

            Go Habs Go!

      • Bill J says:

        If Subban pops the Cap cork… In a way I’m happy, because it will force MB to act on G-Love. ;)

        Go Habs Go!

    • Bripro says:

      I forgot Leblanc and Blunden, and their two-way deals.
      If the team’s victimized by injuries, there’ll be no more $ in the till.

  27. kazmojo says:

    Love the signing of Bouillon, if only because it rights half the wrongs Gainey perpetrated the summer of 2009. The other, bigger part was swapping out Koivu for Gomez.

    Like the other contracts too, except Armstrong’s. SJ signed Adam Burish (similar size and also right handed) for less of a cap hit — albeit over longer term. He can play both RW and C, won almost 56% of his faceoffs last year, was a key penalty killer, and plays with grit too. Add the Stanley Cup experience in Chicago, and he’s more valuable than a cheap shot artist like Armstrong.

  28. Bripro says:

    I find it amusing how so many are now quick to reduce Darche’s contribution, mostly saying what a bad hockey player he is.
    Yet….he’s in the NHL.
    None of us are though!
    He can’t be all that bad!

    • punkster says:

      No, Brian…you got it all wrong.

      The people HERE are WAAAAY better than ANY regular NHL player.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • 123456 says:

      darche certainly was an asset to the habs last season – the only knock on him is he is not a superstar….. and unfortunately (for him) the players of his ability are plentiful and younger

    • Bill says:

      Well, yeah, obviously compared to 99.9% of the human race, he’s an AMAZING hockey player. Everyone knows that.

      But you know that when people criticize NHL players here, they are making an apples-to-apples comparison between one NHL player and other NHL players. It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison between Mathieu Darche and all the slobs posting here! :)

      I’m a lousy politician too, but I feel free to criticize Harper or Obama as well.

      If I could only criticize those who do things I know a lot about, the only people I could critique would be grammarians, guitarists, and wine-testers :) Not much fun there!

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • twilighthours says:

      Bri, he was offered a contract. Call it a low-ball if you will, but he could still be a Hab if he wanted to. Heart-and-soul guy, yes, but still in it for the $$$$, or else he’d be a Hab.

      • Bripro says:

        You can’t really call what they offered as a contract.
        A two-way for an older player who’s taken his lumps and worked his way to where he is….faithfully and never ruffling any feathers.
        They could have had him for a song, and he would have never complained. Instead, they did the first faux-pas as the new administration, by insulting him. IMO

  29. habsnl says:

    If we still have Cammalerri instead of Bourque, this team is looking good for this season. We need another top 6 LW, or we’re in trouble

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Aside from last year, Bourque has more points than Cammy the past few seasons.

    • 123456 says:

      i did not dislike the trade at time (how it went down yes but not hte trade). as the end of the season approached it was evident bourque was stinking up the joint….. BUT BUT BUT he had more goals than cammy in the 2 years prior so i say give him a chance… he is tougher and not AS BIG a liability on defense

    • twilighthours says:

      I miss Cammalleri’s hot streaks when everything he shot went in. Unfortunately, there were only 3 or 4 of these in his time with us. Most of the rest of the time Cammalleri spent getting the puck on the boards on the break-out, circling back into his own zone, and turning the puck over.

  30. jrshabs1 says:

    Jack Todd…you’re a (deleted) guess in your Hab hating mind last year’s debacle was Price’s fault. Price hired his own crappy GM and decided on his own to play behind the worst defence in the league. And to top it all off Todd decided to bring up the old Price/Halak debate for good measure. The ink on Price’s contract is not even dry and the nonsence starts…go back to the USA Jack Todd if all you are going to do bitch and moan about how things are being run north of the 49.

    Go Habs Go!!

    • twilighthours says:

      Just stop reading him! I haven’t read an article in probably 6 years, and I’m better for it.

    • boing007 says:

      Watch your language twerp. Enough with the gratuitous foul language. It’s very immature and shows a lack of basic human intelligence.

      HIO is beginning to look like a dictatorship of the Careytariat.
      Stalin would have loved it. Hitler, Bush II, Pol Pot. You name ‘em.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        I get it now…you need to use words like twerp to get around the HIO mods. Nothing better to do today”richard”? Chime in on some comments, give your 2 cents, wag your finger in disgust at swears.

        Go Habs Go!!

      • Bill J says:

        No one is forcing you to visit the site.

        Clearly for you to complain about how things are here lately, shows your opinion as being the minority… Many Hab fans are happy about Price being secured for 6 years. Perhaps you should locate a site dedicated to Habs fans who hate the franchise player on its team. You would feel at home.

        Or is that too factual for you ?

        Go Habs Go!

        • alfieturcotte says:

          Bill – Your narrow view of the state of the Habs world never ceases to amuse me. Wake up brother – there are several fans who share this view on Price. And guess what, HIO is the appropriate site to share these views. It’s a board where members share their opinions. Not everyone will agree w/your views (thankfully, as they are pretty awful)!

          • Bill J says:

            I didn’t tell him he couldn’t visit, I said the same thing I offer you.

            “No one is forcing you to come here”

            Rest assured, if it’s not me it will be someone else here. But your type will always be called out for the fabrications you bring to the site.

            Go Habs Go!

          • alfieturcotte says:

            By “fabrications” you mean opinion I suppose. You need to get over the fact that folks will have opposing views on things near and dear to the heart. Embrace it, you might actually enjoy the exchange.

          • Bill J says:

            When listing stats and events that are incorrect with the purpose of trashing Price ? It’s fabrication. Nice try, last reply to you again. You tire me with your pointless arguments and opinions.

            Go Habs Go!

          • alfieturcotte says:

            Whaa???? Price’s stats are quite clear, you can visit and internet site to get them (or buy his hockey card). It is fact that he lost the starting job to Halak not once but twice notwithstanding all his patrons (Gainey/Gauthier) did for him. It is fact that he has had one truly good season, and several not so good to average/ok seasons. If you think those factual results merit that salary, you’ll be surely disappointed. It’s a zero sum game, the cap forces our green GM to skimp on other costs (PK, new wingers, defense?) in order to pay Price his inflated value.

            If you are a numbers guy (whch I doubt) Price ranked umm, like 34th in the league in save %. Even if you discount certain goalies by games played, he still ranked far behind the 3rd highest salary. He ranked 33rd in GAA.

            That my fellow poster, is FACT!

      • RGM says:

        One time I lost my grip on historical perspective grip on reality, too. It’s fun eh?

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        • olematelot says:

          I don’t know where you got your stats from alfieturcotte but they certainly aren’t “FACT”. Price was 18th in save % and 20th in gaa

    • Psycho29 says:

      Jack Fraud’s articles have become predictable….I haven’t read his crap, but I can only imagine what bullspit he’s written today…

      I’m positive Jack Fraud is a closeted Bruins fan…

  31. Bill H says:

    Michael Farber on TSN UFA coverage:

    “My thumb is down to the Montreal Canadiens because within 5 minutes, Matieu Darche will be eligible for free agency. For a relative pittance, Montreal could have locked up Darche, the conscience of the team. Instead, they low balled the 35 year old winger with an offer of a two way deal that also included a cut from his curent $700,000 at the NHL level. There are more effective 4th liners on the market, but not one will treat it as an honour to play for the Canadiens like Darche did. There is scant room for sentiment in pro hockey, but there should always be room for a man of character.”

    I’m a little bit surprised at the “conscience of the team” comment, but I’ve never been in the dressing room or on the bench. That he believes it to be an honour to for the Canadiens, and that he skated his heart out, I have no doubt. Perhaps Michael is being overly sentimental.

    • Chuck says:

      By all accounts Darche is a great team guy and role player, but I don’t see how keeping him would make the team better. How many extra games would we win just because Darche is in the lineup?

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      • commandant says:

        Darche is a great guy off the ice. And thats a good thing to have on a hockey team.

        But if he can’t marry that with good enough on ice play, its not worth a heck of a lot.

        I liked Darche, but it was time to move on.

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        • Bripro says:

          I fail to see how (especially) Armstrong can bring more to the team than Darche did.
          He was always positive and motivated his teammates.
          Armstrong was a disaster last year, IMO, injury notwithstanding.
          And Darche would have been a much less-expensive 4th liner.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            6 years younger, more abrasive, 87 goals in 439 games versus 30 goals in 250 games.

            Armstrong was a teammate loved in Pittsburgh when he was healthy and playing well. Absolutely he had horrific luck with injuries the past two seasons, however, many were freak injuries which he was being rushed back into the lineup out of desperation of the coach Ron Wilson. For what it is worth Bri, some of the Leaf buddies I know whom I respect, were pissed that Burke bought him out and didn’t give him fair shot this next season. They all told me what a good and cheap pickup this was for Montreal.

            FYI, Armstrong needs a good year to get his career back on track, he also grew up a Hab fan and has a huge chip on his shoulder to prove he belongs in the league. A low risk gamble with a decent upside.

            If he is hurt, Blunden takes his role.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree Chuck, it is all well and good to have a feel good story, but the reality is the Habs need to have a more abrasive 3rd and 4th line. While Darche hustled and provided a forecheck he didn’t strike fear in any dmen when he was coming in to bodycheck them. The NHL is far too competitive of a league to have room on rosters for feelgood stories.

        Who knows, perhaps an injury hits the club early in season and there is room for him. But end of day a player like Ryan White, Prust, Moen provide far more on a regular shift. I would rather see Blunden playing on the 4th line than Darche.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Your counter-argument completely misses Faber’s point.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      I usually agree with a lot of what Michael Farber says/writes; in this case I don’t. Darche is a good guy who seemingly works hard and is a great team mate. Unfortunately for Darche, this is pro sports and the results just weren’t there. Time to move on.

    • twilighthours says:

      All of this aside, Darche is a very poor hockey player. He might generate more shots per 60 minutes than Desharnais (or so I’m told), but because my grandmother and I both have a better shot than he does, he is about the least dangerous guy in the league. Brings heart, hustle, and (apparently) conscience, but nothing else.

      Tough loss, but we are better with our new players.

      • boing007 says:

        It’s too bad that he had such a lousy shot because he did get into scoring lanes often enough.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • third generation haber says:

      I will miss Darche, but having too many guys signed to one way contracts leaves little flexibility to call-up youngsters. He said no to a 2 way deal and instead we keep Nokia…. ok, I’m pissed about that.

      More importantly, does anyone believe that we have enough beef on our defence to compete???

      Diaz, Weber, Kaberle are ice-capades. Who’s gonna provide us the crease clearing muscle that Gill did?

      j.p. murray

  32. HabinBurlington says:

    Wow, Andy Griffith past away. One of my favourite shows growing up!

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Assuming the Devils don’t keep Parise, I wonder if Lou would take Gomez now given the cheaper contract versus cap hit. I would think if anyone would believe he could get Scotty to play again it would be Lou.

  34. Chuck says:

    Looking at what the Leafs have lined up on defense, I can’t for the life of me figure out why Burke felt the need to trade Schenn. He’s their blue line status:

    Phaneuf, Dion » $6,500,000
    Komisarek, Mike » $4,500,000
    Liles, J. » $3,875,000
    Gunnarsson, Carl » $1,325,000
    Gardiner, Jake » $1,116,667
    Franson, Cody » RFA

    That makes me feel a lot better when looking at our defense! And what’s their plan for goaltending?

    Reimer, James » $1,800,000

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  36. HFX-HabFan says:

    Salvador to stay with Devils

    • commandant says:

      Salvador gets three years.

      I liked the guy as a potential 4/5 D, and a stop gap until our kids are ready, but 3 years seems long for a guy his age.

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      • HFX-HabFan says:

        I’m sure Bergevin kicked the tires, but it sounds like Salvador wanted to stay in Jersey. But you’re right, three years is too much for him.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        3 yr. 3.166 per season and a 35+ contract.

      • ed lopaz says:

        I think we have 4 d-men that deserve to play and need to play.

        I am assuming that Markov will be reasonably healthy and not retire.

        So we have a top 4 of:

        Subban Gorges
        Markov Emelin

        Emelin is a 4th d-man this year. He is good enough to take on that responsibility, and I believe he will become a very solid #4.

        For 5 and 6 spots, changes have to be made.

        We can not compete with Kaberle, Weber, Diaz.

        Diaz was overrated by Gauthier, and he continues to be overrated by some hockey pundits on this site.

        if that’s the case elsewhere in the NHL, that Diaz is seen as a solid d-man, I say that makes him the perfect piece to be shipped out.

        Weber is still only 22 or 23 years old.

        Weber can be kept as a 7th d-man and continue his development, and his value on the trade market is quite low right now.

        Kaberle stays as a power play specialist and limited 5 on 5 minutes, as the 6th d-man.

        So that opens a spot for a #5 d-man that can play physical, play the front of the net, win battles in the corners, and fight if he has to.

        Also, this d-man should not be expecting more then a 2 year contract and not more than about 2 million per season.

        If none are available as free agents,

        We can trade Diaz for this d-man; to a team that is looking for a mobile, offensive, d-man with potential.

        • twilighthours says:

          Ed, I can’t get my head around the love affair for Diaz. You want to talk about soff defenseman? I seriously think he’s trying to be the soffest defenseman in the league.

          • ed lopaz says:

            if Diaz is surrounded by toughness, then his lack of physicality can be overlooked.

            there are teams that want his “mobility”.

            I agree with you, but maybe he could be a good fit somewhere else, and that team could send us what we need.

            A d-man that will not back down from anyone who wears a Bruin or Flyer uniform.

          • Jim Edson says:

            Agree 100%, Diaz is a panic attack waiting to happen.

            He and Weber need a few years in the AHL/ECHL to toughen up.

            The deer in the headlights look of panic was too prevalent last year in the face of any forecheck.

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    • habstrinifan says:

      Too bad he was one of my ‘choices’.

  37. 24 Cups says:

    Colorado re-signs Erik Johnson – 4 years/15M.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399833

  38. habs-fan-84 says:

    Moen and his family have to be so relieved to know that for the first time since his arrival in Montreal he’s not going to be the only “tough” guy on the team.

    I can see why some of the “tough” guys/enforcers do have problems with depression. In Moen’s case, it had to have been stressful to go into Boston or Philly (or any other similar team) a year or two ago, and know that your the one guy on the team that everyone is counting on to stick up for them.

    I wonder if part of his contract negotiations – perhaps not formally, but at least verbally – was that there was an acknowledgement from MB that he was taking the team in a grittier direction so that he and White don’t have to shoulder the load themselves. In any event, I’m extremely satisfied to see Prust as a Hab. If Armstrong can stay healthy then he will have been a steal.

    • The Cat says:

      Good post, I agree with it all.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • ed lopaz says:

      I agree and I believe that it was 100% mentioned in the contract negotiations;

      How will Moen be used by the new coach, what is expected of him?

      Signing Moen “required” that Bergevin discuss his philosophy about building more character and grit, and that Moen would not have to do all of the heavy lifting in Boston and Philly.

      That’s how a team signs the players it wants.

  39. 25insight says:

    Love it. Toughness is what we need.

    On another note, everyone loves 30+ goal scorers but i’m happy with a 20+ with some grit in the dirty areas, the right player will come with some patience. with Galchenyuk ready not this season but the next, I am trying to look ahead and see what solid wingers we could pick up.

    on a final note: you have to build something great from the ground up, and this is exacly what MB is doing, by strengthening our 4th line and then working his way up to making improvements to our top lines. I haven’t busted a nut after 2 days of signings, I just have faith in our new management since we are right where we want to be at this moment in time.

  40. Just remember folks the 2012 Summit tickets are ready and Ian Cobb needs your money orders asap.
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    • Chuck says:

      .

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  41. 24 Cups says:

    What’s it all about, Alfie?

    More CBA end runs as Ottawa tries to bring in a “free asset” for next year.

    http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/07/02/what-will-it-be-alfie

  42. habsnyc says:

    Long term goalie contracts are hit and miss. But without Price, this team would be in even worse shape. The deal is within the range of what his peers earn. I am happy it was completed quickly.

    The poll shows that almost 80% of fans on this site think this team will make the playoffs based on off season moves. If I am not mistaken, the only personnel changes so far involve two fourth liners and a sixth defenseman who will each play less than 10 minutes a game. The organization has yet to replace Kostitsyn or Gill with players of similar skill. It is a little early to be so optimistic about reaching the post season. Granted a new coach and gm help lend a fresh start, but the on ice product is still a work in progress.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • 123456 says:

      to be fair i think people are banking on the habs best dman playing as well as gionta each getting 50 points.

      • habsnyc says:

        i understand that, but the question was offseason changes, not injury recovery. expecting 50 points from Gionta is a lot. but he has been a horse for this team.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          One could make the point with a change in philosophy from coach in a more puck possession gameplan along with added size to lineup, a player like Gionta and Gomez will hopefully have more open ice. At least I am hopeful of such….

          • habsnyc says:

            Excellent point. But it is a little theoretical for me at the moment. I need to see the actual system in action to understand it.

            Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • Bill J says:

          More of a Shetland pony. But I can live with your analogy.

          Go Habs Go!

  43. habaholic68NJ says:

    MB is on a mission to build a contender in the 3-5 year time frame. This appears to be his top priority. His second goal is to make the Habs a tough team to play against and playoff bound next season. I would not be surprized if no more major moves are made between now and the trade deadline. If so, here is a likely line up:

    MaxPac-DD-Cole
    Bourque-Pleks-Gio
    Moen-Eller-Armstrong
    Prust-Nik/Gomer-White

    PK-Josh
    Marky-Emelin
    Franky the Bull-Krapperle
    Weber

    Price-Bud

    LL, Diaz and Blunden (if he clears waivers) to the Hammer.
    Bourque will get a chance on the second line.
    Gomer will not be bought out, no GM will want to trade for him and he may not end up in the Hammer either. He will probably end up starting the season alternating between the 4th line C position and the press box.

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    • Timo says:

      Another 5 year plan? Awesome!

    • habsnyc says:

      This is the same lineup as last year except they replaced Gil with Bouillon, and Kostitsyn with Armstrong and have a new fighter on the fourth line. Really the hope is that the team is better coached and looses fewer players to injury. There is no personnel upgrade in this lineup. DD needs to have another career year. Gionta and Cole need to defy aging. Plekanec needs to bounce back. Regardless, none of those guys will be impactful in 3-5 years. There is no youth movement and no rebuilding in this line-up. Hopefully, it changes as the offseason progresses.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • habaholic68NJ says:

        You missed the point. The youth movement is in the juniors and in Hamilton. MB built an organization to develop these kids BEFORE prematurely bringing them to the show. Be patient.

        *Listen to my instrumental tribute entitled “Habs at War” at http://petertoliasmusic.site11.com/Music_Site/OtherOriginalMusic.html

        • habsnyc says:

          i missed the youth movement in juniors. what exactly is it and how does it differ from prior seasons? what i see is long term contracts to marginal players that take up roster spots that may have gone to younger players. LL was a first round pick in 2009. If he cannot make a non playoff the team in 12-13, there is almost no chance he will be an impact NHL player.

          To me, a youth movement means
          1. moving veterans such as Plekanec, Markov, Gionta or Cole to get young players who will peak in 3-5 years.
          2. giving top six ice time to first round picks such as Eller and LL
          3. reducing salary and giving the young players front end loaded contracts so that there is room to add high priced free agents in 3-5 years

          Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • 24 Cups says:

      That’s pretty well it. The only two questions are can Bourque play 2nd line minutes throughout the entire season and who makes it as the 7th Dman, Diaz or Weber? Both have to pass through waivers. So does Palushaj (and Gomez!), Geoffrion doesn’t.

      The defense and 4th line centre spots still look shaky to me.

  44. neutral says:

    I like what MB has done as far as toughness goes. so far that’s about it.

  45. HabinBurlington says:

    Pierre Lebrun regarding Huet:
    •Cristobal Huet, remember him? He’s a UFA and he’s willing to come back to the NHL on bargain dollars as a backup. I’d take a chance on him. It just so happens the Winnipeg Jets still need to find a backup goalie to replace Chris Mason. I’d be all over Huet if I were the Jets.

  46. DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

    Just read Jack Todd’s column. I thought journalists were supposed to seek answers to questions, not just ask them….the whole column is him asking a whole bunch of questions that inevitably turn into rhetorical questions. I think Todd is turning into one of the grumpy old men that hangs around the coffee stand in the mall here in Chibougamau complaining about everything that passes by…come on up Jack, we have a stool waiting just for you…

  47. AceMagnum says:

    I like Marc Bergevin.

    ….that is all.

    —————————-

    THE KINGS ARE KINGS!! 2012

  48. HabinBurlington says:

    Tweet from Pierre Lebrun:
    Real_ESPNLeBrun: Sheehy: “When a young man is asked to commit for 13 years, why is it considered extraordinary to take a few days to make a decision?…con’t
    Real_ESPNLeBrun: …. “A deal will happen when it happens..” That was agent Neil Sheehy with update on Ryan Suter

    13 year contract, Yikes that is just crazy

    • Lafleurguy says:

      History supports your stance: Rick DiPietro, Roberto Luongo, Ilya Bryzgalov, Ilya Kovalchuk. In the case of Kovalchuk, his contract is impeding the Devils’ ability to retain Zac Parise, who was the proverbial “bird in hand.” If someone offered me Zac Parise for Kovalchuk in a trade, I would do it in a heartbeat.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yah that is until Parise’s contract becomes equally as cumbersome. Interesting to watch, if indeed Parise gets the monster frontloaded contract (by way of 12million bonus year 1 and 2) he is apparantly asking for, perhaps his contract wont be as cumbersome later as it will be early.

        How were the fireworks at Spencer Smith on weekend?

        • Lafleurguy says:

          What a fantastic event! Burlington does an A-one job staging festivals! Guess you were out of town.

          “May you live in interesting times.”

          P.S. And remember, Cool-hand Lou (yeah, kinda weak) effectively gave up a first round pick to secure Kovalchuk.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            No was in town, but just didn’t make it down there. Gotta big dog at home who has not enjoyed the heat. Try to get my walks in early and very late, he also hates fireworks.

            CHeers neighbour!

  49. BeeGee says:

    Ok so no Jagr huh… I’ll take Mueller then please…

  50. remi_10069 says:

    Obviously love the moves so far…Don’t really care about the amount of cash they paid Price, he’s a solid NHL tender, when you have one, you keep ‘em. Would love to see a few more to really turn this team around..

    Weber – gonzo SVP with sugar on it
    Diaz – syonara back to switzerland, maybe with Crawford as his coach
    Darche – looks like my wish has come true, I love the guy but not on my nhl team
    Plek – I know this is going to cause a fuss but you can get way more for that kind of cash

    pipes

  51. habs-fan-84 says:

    Just for fun:

    Too bad we didn’t grab Konopka last summer!

    A 4th line of:
    White, Konopka, Prust

    That is one intense 4th line!

  52. MiltonHab says:

    I Love what MB is doing!
    Signing Price at that term/price was a no brainer. PK next and no monstrous Free agent contracts. Lots of youth/potential in the tunnel and the future looks bright…Love IT!

  53. HabinBurlington says:

    When Gary Bettman reduced the suspension on Torres did he also call Hossa and ask him to suck it up? How is it that a suspension can be reduced with zero explanation.

    The transparacy of this Napolean syndrome stricken lawyer is so frustrating to watch. I so wish a Gretzky or someone was Commissioner who in turn can hire a lawyer for the details.

    • Bill J says:

      Not sure if it was Dregger who tweeted it. But he raised a valid point.

      The initial suspension was to carry Torres through the playoffs. Since they didn’t last as long for Torres, prorated reduction.

      Go Habs Go!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        So why does Dreger have to explain it then? And perhaps then the league should make it official in advance how many reg. season games equal a playoff game as it relates to suspension.

        However, that excuse is still complete B.S. when you consider Shanahan told us last year during preseason that Preseason and Reg. Season were equal when he started handing out suspensions. If a reg. season game and a preseason game are equal, then why wouldn’t playoff and reg. be equal.

        My point is we don’t know the reasons, nor will they tell us. Instead we get innuendo from reporters whose best sources work for the league. Oh now I am getting frustrated….

        • Bill J says:

          Good points. But as implied below, Bettman is a puppet who enjoys HIS own salary overpayment.

          The guy is the equivalent of Gomez in the NHL offices.

          Go Habs Go!

    • habsfan0 says:

      Gary Bettman is an employee (read:puppet)of the NHL owners.

      When he speaks, it’s actually them doing the talking (and pulling the strings.)

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I am aware of that, that is also frustrating that the owners would choose this person to be their spokeman/henchman. I just can’t understand why hire someone with zero passion for the game prior to becoming commish. His background is lawyer and NBA.

        • habsfan0 says:

          At Bettman’s height, I’m surprised he had ANYTHING to do with the NBA.

          • Bill J says:

            I totally LOL’d nice!

            The visual of him getting a stepping stool, to discuss with players… Priceless. Thanks for the morning chuckle.

            Go Habs Go!

  54. Timo says:

    Regarding Price’s contract. The only thing I know is that 6.5 mil for Price is a lot easier to stomach than 7.5 for Gomer.

    • Lafrich says:

      Hear hear. Well said.

    • Jim Edson says:

      No kidding!

      ———————————————————————-
      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

    • Bill J says:

      Not being rude, but I’ve been away for a bit.

      Just curious, Gomez still being a Hab aside. What are your overall thoughts on the direction Timo ?

      You’ve gotten a lot of flack over the years. Just curious…

      Go Habs Go!

      • Timo says:

        It feels unnatural when someone asks what I think… i really does. But since you asked, I still don;t like the team and I don’t think it will be much better than last year. Better, but not by a lot. Most of guys on this team (Gorges and Max Pac) aside seem to be made out of glass and come November we’ll be hurting again.

        While the team looks a bit (very little bit) tougher on paper there is still no secondary scoring (I don’t trust Pleks, Eller, Gomer and Gionta will start producing more than they have all of a sudden). The first line (if it stays intact) will be watched a lot more closely too.

        Most of all I still really despise Therrien and nothing short of a stanley cup will change that.

        But since it’s impossible to be worse than what this team was last year, I guess we can only go up.

        • Bill J says:

          I certainly feel good about the direction. Agree and many others seem to as well, that there’s more work to be done.

          But so far it seems, we’ve seen more vision for the Habs from our GM then we’ve seen in nearly 20 years now…

          Cheers Timo.

          Go Habs Go!

    • boing007 says:

      You’re slipping, Timo.
      So far, Gomez has a ring and Carey Price doesn’t.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  55. frontenac1 says:

    Hey remember last winter when Gino Odjink showed up on L”Antichambre dressed like he just came from the Gym? They asked him who he thought should be the next coach of the Habs and he said,”Mike Therrien”! The guy might be Kreskins long lost son! Oh yeah,they also showed a clip of Gino bitch slapping PJ Stock.It was hilarious! Hola!

  56. logical 46 says:

    I would have gone to salary arbitration (Price). So far the guy hasn’t won anything in the NHL. In the Boston series two years ago, Thomas was the much better goaltender. Although Price is technically very good he is not very quick. To win Stanley Cups you need to be able to recover quickly. He recovers slowly. Let’s hope they don’t go crazy with Subban’s salary. He is still learning the position. Anything over 3.5 million is ridiculous. That is one reason the Habs can’t win anything. They overrate there players and pay much to much which leaves very little in the bank to get someone really good. I have to admit however, that Bergevin is doing a much better job than Gauthier getting some toughness.

    • Bill J says:

      I think your username is missing a “IL” at the beginning of it.

      Typo ?

      p.s.: so that my post does not solely rely on a shot. Easy comparison you made, works several ways.

      Swap Price for Thomas. And Boston wins the last 3 cups. When you have Chara on your team, your goalie doesn’t get snowed 50 times a period.

      Go Habs Go!

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I think it’s a bit high at 6.5M but they had to get it done. They have nothing in the pipes and arbitration would have meant 1 or 2 years and possibility of losing him. This was the right move to show confidence. Also, let’s not forget that Price won a playoff series at 20 years old against Boston, in game 7, no less. He has also been to 3 All-Star Games, so saying he hasn’t won anything isn’t exactly true, but I get what you mean.
      PK has been playing an amazing amount of minutes in many situations, but I agree with your number….3.5M per year would be perfect on a 4 year deal, so he’ll likely get 4M.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Jim Edson says:

        All Star appearances are hardly a relevant metric.

        More a beauty contest than anything else!

        ———————————————————————-
        What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

        In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

        They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

        ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

    • habsfan0 says:

      The Habs have definitely addressed their “lack of toughness” question.

      It remains to be seen if they will do the same for their “lack of scoring depth.”

    • RGM says:

      There is so much wrong with this post that it’s laughable.
      1. Arbitration would have meant a maximum of a 2-year deal, at the end of which Price would have been a UFA. Nothing burns a bridge between a player and a team like going to arbitration.
      2. He was the League leader in wins in the 2011-12 season on a team that finished in 6th place in its conference. He’s also a 3-time All Star.
      3. Thomas was not a “much better goaltender” in a series that was decided by three OT games. Indeed, Price’s numbers as a goalie were actually statistically better. Weird anomaly, I know.
      4. He is very fast and his technique means that he has something called the Price bubble. He only moves as fast as he needs to and is in total control of his speed at all times.
      5. I don’t know what you mean when you talk about “he recovers slowly” and what impact that has to do with winning a Stanley Cup. He’s a guy that has played more than 65 games in each of the past two seasons with no signs of fatigue.

      So there ya go, everything you said about Carey Price in your post was actually factually incorrect. For someone who calls himself “logical” on an Internet message board, you may want to do your research.

      ———————–
      GO HABS GO! Maybe 2012-13 will be our year!
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      Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

    • neumann103 says:

      That is just silly.

      Anyone who thinks that taking Price to arbitration would have been a good idea either is smoking crack or does not grasp the process.

      The team has to denigrate the player’s abilities in an effort to bring the (P)rice down. An arbitrator would then award a 1 or 2 year deal after which the player would be a UFA. The player would be pissed and walk away as soon as possible. The award would be based on the arbitrator’s assessment of comparables, and would have been somewhere in the range of $5.5M per year.

      So, the result of arbitration:
      Piss Price off
      Pay him $5.5M a year for 1 or 2 RFA years (which you could argue is an overpayment since you are not getting any UFA years down-averaged into the deal)
      After a year or two he walks with no compensation to the Habs and they would need to acquire a #1 goalie (or have started the development of one 2 or 3 years ago)

      Great!

      “Et le but!”

  57. habsfan0 says:

    Now that Carey Price has his long term deal securely in hand, the pressure on him to perform will be enormous,particularly in this market. Fans will be expecting him to “steal” games which the team has no business winning, something which, in all honesty, I don’t recall happening on too many occasions in the past. He will have to improve dramatically on his performances in the shootout, and people will be most anxious to see how he fares under extreme pressure situations, such as playoff OT.

    At the age of 24, however, his upward potential is limitless.

    • Bill J says:

      The fans already put that pressure on him, he’s had it since the first game he played for MTL.

      When he then ousted the last French hope in net.

      Go Habs Go!

      • habsfan0 says:

        Are you referring to “Hip Hip Huet?”

        • Bill J says:

          Yes, but he also got in hindsight extra pressure for being drafted when the Habs owned Theo too…

          Go Habs Go!

          • habsfan0 says:

            As far as Theodore is concerned, it was somewhat alarming at how rapid his downward spiral was after capturing the Vezina and Hart trophies. Family influences aside, perhaps it had something to do with size of goalie pads becoming smaller and oversized sweaters being banned?

          • Timo says:

            Question: what do Price and Theo have in common?

          • HabinBurlington says:

            @Timo, tell me Price isn’t using Propecian hair formula or that his family is in the money laundering business. Say it ain’t so!

          • Bill J says:

            Timo: both will have been coached by Michel Therrien’s, both #1 goaltenders in MTL.

            Ask again next summer, maybe we can say “both vezina” winners… :)

            Go Habs Go!

          • Timo says:

            I was going with the hair thing.

          • Bill J says:

            Hahahahaha, fair enough. That one went right over my head, my bad.

            Go Habs Go!

          • Andy and the habs says:

            Was gonna say Definitely not the hair issue…

      • boing007 says:

        The last French hope? Boy oh boy, aren’t you melodramatic.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

        • Bill J says:

          You mean like stating Price is wayyyyyyy overpaid ?

          Yeah OK!

          Go Habs Go!

          • boing007 says:

            Please show me where I wrote that Price is wayyyyyyy overpaid?
            More melodrama.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

          • Bill J says:

            Boing, you’re not that interesting to me to actually waste my time looking for samples of why I believe you’ve an agenda with respect to Price.

            Your lovely signature speaks quite clearly to my point.

            But yeah, keep trying to paint me badly. In case you missed it, people here are smart enough to realize the stain in this conversation.

            Go Habs Go!

  58. frontenac1 says:

    If Kaberle,Diaz and Weber are still on board,then get ready for more of those Clusterf#*#s in Carey”s paint this year!
    The Cube will help, but Sweet Jesus,last year was pathetic! Please Marc,fix this!Hola!!

    • Bill J says:

      Dunno about you, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. And we all know that rebuilding the Habs in 2-3 days doesn’t work (see: Bob Gainey failed rebuild of 2010)

      All moves in the right direction so far. Likely more to come, don’t expect it to be perfect this season, but will be much better IMO.

      Go Habs Go!

  59. frontenac1 says:

    If Kaberle,Diaz and Weber are still on board,then get ready for more of those Clusterf#*#s.in Carey”s paint this year!Sweet Jesus,last year was pathetic! Please Marc,fix this!

  60. 24 Cups says:

    You’ve got to hand it to Brodeur. By hiring an agent, he gets him to do the dirty work while Brodeur pockets another 4M on a second year of his contract.

    Then there’s the agent. He probably only works a few weeks on this file and gets around 5% of Brodeur’s 4.5M a season.

  61. Ian Cobb says:

    Our 6th annual 2012 HIO Fan Summit is, Oct 27th weekend.
    All game tickets are available from me for a very short time period.

    ITINERARY & LOCATIONS
    We are staying at the Novotel hotel, discount rates at 866-861-6112 Tell them you are with HIO to get your discount.

    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. on Crescent St.
    Some of us will be having supper there, and name tags will be given out.
    Everyone is welcome to join us. Ware you team colors! and enjoy the evening.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8 or 8:30am. 1240 Drummond St.
    You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    After breakfast we walk over to the Bell Center for the Hall of Fame Tour.

    At 3pm the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge restaurant 1050 Mountain St.
    Each person is asked to bring one gift item to donate for the charity raffle, so everyone gets a gift to go home with. After this years fund raiser, we will have donated over $10,000.

    Then our Baton Rouge restaurant pre game dinner. With special guests.

    After that we walk across the street to the Duck’s and Hab’s game.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celebrate the win. Anyone may join us, just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Come and enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO community at this years Summit.

    See ya there.
    Ian Cobb
    HIO Fan Summit Organizer (613-968-9807) if you need anything.

    For Summit tickets, News, Pictures and comments
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Montreal-Canadiens-We-Are-Fans-Summit/197390760316125

  62. HabinBurlington says:

    Interesting read from a Philly Sports writer, apparantly Holmgren has put some big offers in on Parise and Suter, but perhaps not with the hope they are accepted.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20120703_Flyers__free-agency_gambit.html

  63. commandant says:

    A lot of the offseason signings and trades are being held up by Parise and Suter making their decisions right now.

    What to look forward to once they sign.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/07/03/logjam-what-happens-after-parise-and-suter-sign/

    Go Habs Go!
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    • 24 Cups says:

      Let’s assume that none of the team’s young propsects make the roster out of traing camp.

      That leaves the Habs with five decent players at each forward position on the depth chart. They also have three goalies and eight Dmen, nine if you count St. Denis in the mix.

      I’m not proposing that the Habs are finished, or shouldn’t be looking at other options, but they could start training camp tomorrow if need be.

      I say let all the other teams beat up on each other and blow their financial minds.

    • boing007 says:

      Look forward to average and slightly above players getting more money than they are worth.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  64. Kfourn says:

    What about adding Milan Jurcina as a 6th Dman

    6’4″ 253 pounds, shoots right, hits like a freight train and would be good at clearing the crease for Price.

    • ed lopaz says:

      not a bad idea, but Jurcina works with Allan Walsh. remember him?

      • Kfourn says:

        Ya but even he can’t possibly expect to get more than he got with his 1 Million/per year contract 2 years ago. Maybe a slight raise because of the Quebec taxes and inflation.

    • BeeGee says:

      The non pro-scout reaction: he was a -34 last year. Granted he was playing for the Isles, but -34… that’s got to be amongst worst in the league.

      • Kfourn says:

        That was an anomaly on a very weak Isles team. Look at his stats in Washington.

        • BeeGee says:

          Again, I’m no pro scout. The question is is it his game or his circumstances…?

          • Kfourn says:

            I remember being impressed with what I saw when he was playing with Washington. Also the Habs IMO need a big crease clearer and he is probably what I see as our best option for a cheap cap hit.

          • BeeGee says:

            Well, you know him more than I do. In any case, I also feel the habs desperately need a big mean D man on a short contract.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have never really watched him closely, but isn’t the scouting report on him that he doesn’t exactly go out of his way to use his frame and that his game appears to lack some passion? Size is one thing, using it is another.

      However, I have not watched him much, so I only gather this reading internet scouting reports.

    • boing007 says:

      Put him in front of the net during the Habs power play.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  65. naweed235 says:

    I guess we are not the only one skeptic of this contract…this is from the official NHL tweet account
    NHL

    Is he worth the price? #Habs ink goalie @CP0031 to a new 6-year deal. Details: http://t.co/ylZduFd5

  66. SlovakHab says:

    Funniest Tweet of last night by Winterlions (‏@WinterLions):

    Hopefully Gomez “is a part of the team” like 3-day old poutine is a part of me. #notforverylong

  67. jon514 says:

    6.5 million is 9.25% of the annual salary cap. I don’t have the numbers to back this up, but I believe that the teams which are the most successful on a consistent basis spend about 10% on goalies, 35% on defense and 55% on offense. Between Price and Budaj we’re spending 10.9% on goalies. That .9 percent might be a slight overpayment, but it won’t break us.

    From a cap perspective we need to shed some overpayment on defense: 26% on 6 d-men not including PK, (you generally need 9 in a season with injuries) and of course a poor investment of 19% of our offensive budget (10.5% of the total) in a guy you don’t intend to play in the top 6.

  68. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Colour me as someone who can’t see giving Parise $100,000,000.00 for ten years. I agree with Marinaro. Really, he’s not the second coming of Gretzky. Not even Crosby or Malkin. He’s not going to single handedly lead any team to greatness and for that kind of money he is automatically in the Scott Gomez hot seat. No matter what he does he won’t be able to earn it.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Agreed. Supply and demand innit?


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • ed lopaz says:

      first, 100 million today was worth about 80 million only 2 years ago by NHL standards.

      when the Cap rises from mid 50’s to 70 million in 2 years, obviously the players’ salaries will rise accordingly.

      second, you are correct that Parise is not Crosby or Malkin, but Parise is just about the closest thing to those icons in today’s league.

      he is a tremendous player, with a work ethic and leadership qualities that are way off the charts.

      for his character, Parise deserves a huge bump in his salary.

      many great players are selfish, or difficult to deal with, and often expect the team to revolve around them.

      Parise makes the players on the ice with him better, and he makes the players in the room want to win with him as their leader.

      • commandant says:

        Exactly right Ed. The cap has gone up 14 million dollars in 2 years, yet fans have called nearly every contract to every team “overpaid” this summer.

        Its inflation, it happens.

        And I completely agree on Parise too.

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      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        I didn’t say he wasn’t a good player. These contracts are still absurd. Gomez “was” a good player. Let’s see what Parise’s accomplished in ten years, shall we?

  69. HardHabits says:

    I still think it is going to be a slow upward tick to competitiveness for this crew. The biggest glaring issues short term being the damage left behind by the last regime:

    1) Scott Gomez $7,357,143
    2) Tomas Kaberle $4,250,000

    and uncertainty whether both
    3) Andrei Markov $5,750,000
    4) Rene Bourque 3,333,333
    can live up to their contractual expectations

    That’s 20 million in cap space.

    In an ideal world the Habs can trade Gomez to a cap floor team without giving anything up. Kaberle should provide PP points and can be traded at the deadline. Bourque under Therrien should get 20+ goals and if Markov is 80% of his former self the Habs should get a few more points from him as well.

    This next season should at the very least be a transition to better things but could still see only a minor progression in the right direction. I like that the Habs are positioning themselves to be a difficult team to play against. I don’t miss the last regime.

    • Caper says:

      In two years, Gomez, Gionta, Kaberle and Markov off the books. You can bet that some of them won’t last that long. My comment does not reflect how I feel about all of them as players with the Habs. Better times coming as you are right that it is a slow climb. However I believe we will be down to the wire for the playoffs.

      • commandant says:

        Kaberle isn’t even in the same conversation as Gomez.

        Kaberle has pretty much been a lock for a 45 pt pace every year since the lockout (With some even better than that).

        Last year was his only exception. On top of that if you take out the time in Carolina (where he clearly had no chemistry), he was on pace for that same total in Montreal.

        Only 11 Dmen in the entire NHL put up 45 points last season.

        Our PP was ~11% in games without Kaberle, ~15% in games he played.

        Yeah, he’s a defensive liability, but give him 3rd pairing minutes beside a steady stay at home partner and thats minimized greatly.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • neumann103 says:

          I had hopes that the seemingly counter-intuitive trade for Kaberle meant the Habs had committed to resolving the Gomez situation, as you would not want BOTH of those contracts for the next two years.

          One of the things that most disappointed me about Cunneyworth (because I really didn’t want it to be so easy to fire a coach over language) was his mis-use of Kaberle. Particularly during the latter part of the season it was increasingly, disturbingly common to see Kaberle out with Campoli to protect a one goal lead. Just because those guys are your 5th and 6th Defensemen (or really 6th and 7th) doesn’t mean you play them as a pair as they reinforce each other’s weaknesses.

          Play Kaberle limited and protected 5 on 5 minutes with a reliable partner and load him up on the PP and he will be fine. Not “Gee that is $4.25 M well spent!” fine, but reasonable roster presence fine.

          Also this will position him as a movable asset come trade deadline time when a team looking to make a deep run needs to add a PP specialist and the price looks okay. The Habs do kind of need to shed that contract in time for Desharnais/Pacioretty RFA negotiations.

          “Et le but!”

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Agree wholeheartedly Neumann, with managed minutes and a solid Defensive partner, Kaberle is not the anchor he is made out to be. I am not saying I am happy about him being on roster per se, but there are ways around this.

        • Caper says:

          I don’t disagree and if in recent posts I have deemed him useful. I am mainly noting that we have expiring contracts on the horizoon.

    • punkster says:

      That’s 4 shoulds and a could.

      If you’re going to claim some “I told you so” kudos next summer how about a bit of assertiveness, some hard core predictions we can hold you to?

      Edit…by the way… ;)

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  70. 24 Cups says:

    A few random thoughts after hockey had to take a back seat due to special summer activities. I haven’t read any posts lately so I hope I’m not repeating what others have already stated.

    – It was a no-brainer to draft Galchenyuk but it appears that the Habs did grab some interesting prospects in this year’s draft. Hab fans are delighted that all of their picks fell below their projected draft ranking but you also have to wonder if the other teams knew something we didn’t. There’s two sides to every coin. Time will tell. My only regret is that Montreal didn’t have a 7th rounder so they could have selected Nick Ebert. He’s a project that might just have been worth it. I hope that Nystrom turns out to be worth it.

    – Moen was essentially an UFA so I can live with his term. Same goes with Prust. I’d rather sign mid level UFAs to fill a void instead of giving up assets in a trade. Both these guys will add character to the team as well as punching above their weight.

    – Love the Armstrong signing. Great bargain at $1M. Sure he’s injury prone but that’s also why we got him on the cheap. He’s now trying to save his career at the tender age of 29 so he should come to Montreal highly motivated. Alll three of these guys bring some grit and character to the team.

    – I can’t say that I’m overly impressed with the Bouillon signing. Too small, too old, too many clicks on the odometer and too much nostalgia. It’s interesting that Nashville took on Gill for two years while cutting the Cube loose. A Bouillon/Kaberle pairing may not be pretty. But what the hell, it’s only for one year at 1.5M. Too bad we didn’t get Zanon for two years. At least we now have some depth on the back end.

    – It’s all over now baby blue for Aaron Palushaj. Montreal should do this kid a favour and cut him loose. Blake Geoffrion must also be wondering about his future. Same goes for Brendon Nash. Looks like Gallagher will be in Hamilton no matter what he does in camp. Makes sense to me.

    – Montreal didn’t really address the need for a solid 4th line centre so it’s kind of tough to see McClement go to Toronto for very reasonable coin. Speaking of centres, Smartdog quoted Bergevin as stating that there will be no buyout for Scott Gomez. If true, it makes my heart sing.

    – I got roasted big time a few years ago when I stated that Louis Leblanc should have stayed at Harvard to work on his degree. He would have graduated this summer and gone to Hamilton next year for seasoning. It would have been a win-win situation and he would have his degree from one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Only a stellar camp will keep him from still being in Hamilton for 2012-13. What a missed opportunity for this kid.

    – The Price contract is probably about 500,000 grand a year too much but that’s what you have to factor in when using the Quebec tax ratio of an extra $100,000 needed per million dollars of salary as compensation. There’s no Cup run in the next five years without Price so at least that piece is in place.

    – I’m also thankful that we stayed clear of contracts that were handed out to players such as Garrison, Souray, Hudler, Parenteau and Kuba. Same goes for Semin and Rudulov. I would have liked Bryan Allen but we would have had to go north of 4M for 4 years. We already have Gorges making that coin so I guess it’s best we passed.
    – No Larry Robinson. Again. I understand theat Bergevin had to let his coach pick his own team. But why couldn’t Therrien follow Bergevin’s lead and surround himself with people who could one day take over his job? I can’t help but feel that Therrien was worried about Robinson’s status as a Hab legend as well as his fine reputation as an NHL coach. The first big hiccup by the new regime.

    All in all, a pretty good few weeks for the Montreal Canadiens. No major blunders that would have long term implications for the team that is in the rebuilding stage (again!). Time to sign Subban and we’re done.

    • ed lopaz says:

      re: Leblanc

      you might be missing a piece of information which is quite important.

      once you attend 1 semester as a student at Harvard, you are considered a student of Harvard for LIFE.

      leblanc can return to Harvard any time he chooses to continue his studies without having to re-apply.

      I am quite certain that this is why Leblanc insisted on attending, even for a short while, and why he decided he could leave to go play Junior.

      so I don’t think he believes he has missed the opportunity.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Ed – That was all part of the debate back in the day. I get that, but I am looking at it from the perspective of a father. The Habs needed Leblanc big time. He was holding all the cards. The level of hockey at Harvard certainly isn’t the same as junior but maybe Leblanc could have had it both ways.

        I’m sure he could go back at some point in time but it won’t be the same as being a full time student at a young age. The experience will have been watered down.

        The Habs rushed him last year due to a lack of rsoter depth. Same as they did with Patches. I trust that the final outcome will be just as positive.

        My final point being that Leblanc could have eventually arrived at the same point in time (with the same level of success in the NHL) and still would have had the Harvard experience of a lifetime.

        • ed lopaz says:

          all good points.

          I know the father, having spoken to him personally. He is extremely bright.

          It was a difficult decision to make; but playing 4 years at Harvard has

          not produced too many NHL players.

          An athlete has a limited shelf life.

          In the end, Louis is as gifted a student as he is a hockey player.

          He will find success at every turn;

          .

    • Cal says:

      Other teams drafted D, freeing up the forwards that Timmins had on his radar.
      Robinson is not a head coach candidate- he wants to pass along his knowledge and experience to Dmen.
      Boullion hits- Habs need that. 5’8″ and 200lbs means he hits hard with a lower center of gravity and that’s bad news for opposing forwards. Besides, he will get 3rd pairing minutes.
      No major blunders is right, and getting Subban locked in is an excellent idea. Then, let the trade winds blow.

      Parise is not worth the crazy contract he will get. Semin may end up in the KHL, when success doesn’t matter.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Cal – Prime Dmen might explain Collberg but not the rest of the picks. It just makes me wonder a bit (althought I’m still ecstatic)

        I agree that Robinson would not want to coach full time, but there is the part time factor if asked to do so in an ‘emergency’, just like last year. I still think it’s a major loss and somehow can’t get past the feeling that it’s all on Therrien.

        As for the Cube, I loved the guy as a Hab. The only question is where is he at these days in terms of his skill level at 36?

  71. BeeGee says:

    Also, think about this: In 05-06 José Theodore had a 5.3MM cap hit on a 39MM salary cap. Today, that would be 9.5MM against the 70MM cap.

    • Cal says:

      That was one of the most stupid contracts in Habs history. That, and the Breezer at $4mil.

    • Clay says:

      Also consider that Theodore won both the Vezina and Hart Memorial Trophies. I’m not saying he wasn’t overpaid – just that he earned a good salary.

      __________________________
      ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

    • BeeGee says:

      My point is simply that salaries have to be put in perspective. 6.5MM is A LOT OF F’N MONEY, but it’s representative of the player’s value to the team re. the cap ceiling. Also, as I wrote below, if the cap keeps increasing, the best goalies in the league will be making upwards of 10MM by the time this contract expires.

    • boing007 says:

      And José went sliding downhill after that. Hasn’t recovered yet.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  72. RiverviewCanadien says:

    As much as some like to twist and construe words placed to web page in a negative way, I am glad to see Price will be a Hab for a while. Regardless of the cost (which I am in the camp who believe he is a tad overpaid, but really, I could careless as its not my money), this is the type of contract the kid needed to take that next step.

    He now knows this team is HIS team, he IS the future, what the future holds is up to him. I really think he can be MUCH better than what he has shown, particularly in the playoffs.

    So come on Price, I am with you, lets see you duplicate 10/11 season, actually come out and best it with 40+ wins!

    Can I be considered a PriceBot now?

  73. Ian Cobb says:

    2012 HIO Fan Summit Game Tickets. As many as you want! But act now!

    Oct. 27th against Koivu and his Ducks.
    Total Summit Weekend Itinerary to follow.

    I have been given as many tickets as we need for a very short time limit. But I must pay for them ASAP.
    So this is the procedure to follow!
    Two prices, the first 56 seats are together.
    And the rest will be scattered in groups of 1 to 5. Both prices.

    IMPORTANT!
    Do not order or send your information to me, other than by sending me a money order with a self addressed envelope and stamp on it, to send your tickets back to you.

    (international money order works best from U.S., Courier also works best)
    Two levels of seats, two prices. $90ea. and $110ea.
    This includes game ticket, Hall of Fame Tour ticket and one ticket for the draw at the Montreal Canadiens Children’s charity Foundation Raffle.

    All orders must come to me in the form of a money order (only, not a check) with a (self addressed envelope and stamp) so I can mail your tickets back to you.

    We only have a short window for this deal so get your money orders to me ASAP. Cut off date for this deal, is coming up soon.!
    Everyone is welcome, but we ask that you attend the Pre Game dinner and participate bringing a gift to the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation Charity Raffle.

    Send to Ian Cobb
    63 Village Dr.
    Belleville Ontario, Canada.
    K8P 4K2

    For Summit tickets, News, Pictures and comments
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  74. BeeGee says:

    Price is not the problem. The problem is putting more pucks in the other net than the 1 or 2 that get past him most nights…


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