Price rates among the best


Yahoo Sports continues its rankings of NHL players with the Top 25 goaltenders.
Fearless prediction: Some of the Hockey Inside/Out Commentariat aren’t going to like the choice of Numero Uno.

Parise signs for one year

Gary Roberts on how to play forever

The stories behind some NHL jersey numbers

Marc Savard still having headaches

And a classic Price save:


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  2. Sal says:

    I have zero espect for ALL things, Bruins. Their entire year is tainted with nepotism. Gregory Campbell was a forth line plugger that was usefull only for the benefit he provided by being Collin’s kid. Now that Daddy is out of the picture don’t be surprised if he is cut this season. There should be an asterix beside their name when it is listed as a SC winner. Thomas is an a-hole, no class goof, with luck and circumstance so unlikely, that it boggles the mind. The crap the Bruins got away with the whole playoffs, established the NHL as the premier bush league of all of sport.

    If this years playoffs proved one thing, it’s that the NHL has decided it’s future lies in taking the league back to the pre-lockout days. Nobody who posts on HIO, needs to be told, that the NHL is a not a league that cares for the integrity of the sport. The league’s prime objective, growing hockey south of th border, is embodied in the templet set by teams like the Bruins and the Flyers. The way the NHL will be reffed in the coming season, will reflect this objective. Teams built on speed and skill, without the required input of goon tactics/presence, will have a very hard time competing.

    Based on what the Habs have done, so far in the off season, the Habs’ Brass have not, appeared to have noticed the change of direction I have alluded to. As such, I see a very difficult season ahead for our Habs, because teams that adapt best to the direction the league is heading towards, will be better able to tee off on our best players, and, they will have the benefit of a reffing phillosophy, that makes it possible . Since , historically, JM is not a coach that endorses the kind of game that will be favored by the direction that NHL refs will be mandated to call, it could be a huge factor in where the Habs find themselves by the end of the season.

    Sal from the Hammer

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  4. JohnBellyful says:

    “Morning, Ralph.”
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  5. V says:

    Excellent article by Roberts. I bet he has made a real difference in the careers of some of these players.

  6. Everlasting1 says:

    Gary Roberts sure comes off as a preachy trainer and a health nut nerd. I feel sorry for his underlings living under his strict diet of raw organic this and that and silly over-priced imported water (as if quality water isn’t available on this continent). He’d probably scold one of his 18 yr old clients for indulging in a big mac and root beer once in a while, for sanity’s sake.
    His guilty pleasure – Mapleton’s organic ice-cream and an espresso. “But not too much caffeine” – Friggin’ nerd.
    “I wish I had this information when I was 18,19,20 yrs old” – nerd with no life.
    His breakfast choices are more suited for middle-aged retirees looking to stay more regular.

    “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  7. Marc10 says:

    No issue with Timmy T getting the nod on the list. Without him the Bruins don’t win the Cup. Simple as that. (Of course they might have won the Cup with Price between the pipes too… who knows…)

    Luongo should not be that high – especially after those performances in Boston. He’s not Top 10 material anymore and I don’t see him winning the Cup. If the Canucks make it back to the Final, they should ride Schneider.

    “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
    Andy Warhol

    Go PK Go!

  8. 1010 says:

    Would it have been more prudent for Gauthier to treat Markov the same as Lou just treated Parise( That is: Show us you can come back and have a strong year and then we’ll talk)?
    Given Parises’ worth, that deal certainly makes me view the Gorges deal in an even more positive light.

    GO HABS…

    • Mike D says:

      As was mentioned below by HH, Parise was an RFA and Markov was a UFA. Big difference there.

      The Gorges deal was good for both sides, as long as neither the Club or Josh were offended by the other’s offers/demands (which I’m sure they weren’t).

      – Honestly yours

  9. OneTimer says:

    – I don’t mind that Tim Thomas is being recognized for his stellar year. He’s just about the only Bruin that I didn’t winning the cup (the rest can rot in hell for all I care).

    – So, since Parise was signing this contract as an RFA, does that mean he’s UFA after next year? What a player, we’re deep at LW but I’d love to see him on the Habs.

    – Also, just wanna say thanks to HI/O for the articles that have been posted lately. It helps the off-season pass just a little bit quicker…the Gary Roberts article was fascinating!

  10. Steve C. says:

    As much as I and almost everyone here can’t stand the Bruins, Tim Thomas is sort of like the anti-Bruin, but fully Bruin all at once.

    What I mean is, the Bruins have a franchise-long reputation as being hard-working, pugnacious, strong, determined, mean, and downright dirty and impossible to withstand (that last one especially as Habs fans). However, I have met many a Canadiens fans who quite like Tim Thomas, and he doesn’t fall into the same “I want to f***ing whack you” category that comes to mind when we think of Marchand, Lucic, Chara, Ference, Horton, etc…

    Tim Thomas is a good guy, he just plays for the team we all detest. He is a Bruin in his determined, hard-working, never-say-die attitude. But he is the anti-Bruin in the sense that he doesn’t start seeing red when things aren’t going well or when he receives a little love tap (see Lucic, Milan under the word “overreaction”) from his opponents. He always seems to be having a good time, and never gives up.

    • The Dude says:

      I don’t detest the foston goons …I detest how the Habs don’t match up ! And before any one wants to write a well written story on how the Habs are better ,DO ME A FAVOR AND FILE IT!” In the haven’t won a Stanley cup in 19 freaking long , pathetic and painful years…” After all, if we did match up in all categories it would be the foston biatches .

    • DearyLeary says:

      The same Tim Thomas that called PK a disgrace? Yeah, he’s swell.

  11. Ian Cobb says:

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    The Dallas Sept 20th and the Buffalo 21st pre season game is still available. The more of these I sell, the more Summit tickets I can get.

    If you want pre-season game tickets, call me right away please, before they are sold to the general public at a hire price. 613-968-9807—Ian

    Nov.18,19,& 20th 2011 (Itinerary) for our HIO Fan Summit.
    Park your car for the weekend, everything is two minutes walking distance.

    Friday evening—Meet and Greet, name tags at Hurley’s pub. 1225 Crescent St.

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    10am Tour Hall of Fame and Bell Center
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    3pm Baton Rouge for pre game meal and children’s
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    7pm Game Hab’s vs Rangers

    After game celebration. the upstairs at Hurley’s pub reserved for us.

    Sunday—-Farewell breakfast and back to the airport for home.

    Hotel rooms– group rate at the Novatel Hotel, be sure to tell them you are with the HIO group to get the deal price. reservation # 514-871-2138

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Fark I’m jealous, that all sounds like a great event. Unfortunately the timing doesn’t work for me, those dates are just when the mountains open and things ramp up, pretty hard to get time off around these parts at the start of the season. Next year I’m in though.

      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

    • Sakus Evil Twin says:

      Hi Ian, did you get my cheque yesterday… I sent it with alleged guarantee from Canada Post that it would arrive yesterday morning but haven’t received confirmation that it ever arrived….


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      • Ian Cobb says:

        Nope, not yet, most arrived yesterday and some arrived by Courrier today.

        I need to sell some pre-game tickets so that I can get everyone a Summit game ticket.

        First come first serve.

  12. Mark C says:

    Another Eller article, again he states that his rehab is well ahead of schedule. He has also added some muscle and weight, he’s up to 202 lbs. and hopes to add a few lbs. before showing up to camp.

    edit: that might be an old article to some.

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    • Jim Edson says:

      If “Something Else” means he doesn’t make jail feel like a Holiday Inn Express you are correct!

      Those tents don’t have AC and it’s 100 plus Degf in the valley!

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  14. Neutral says:

    until Eller plays a regular shift every game kind of hard to say what he’s gonna be. with the ice time he was given in 2010-2011 he proved to be a 4th line player if he can get the ice time Gomez gets than we’ll know for sure it’ll only take one season, jeff skinner proved it in carolina, he’s a first line center and one of the best in the league at the age of 19….

  15. mike3131 says:

    At this point, would it be such a terrible idea to sign Stillman for 1 year and send Eller to Hamilton? He would have more time to heal from his shoulder injury and gain confidence and come back in 2012-13 bigger, stronger and faster… like Max. DD can run the 3rd line with Stillman and AK for this year.
    We shouldn’t rush Eller back IMO. He is a long term piece of our franchise and I think we should give him more time.
    I’ve also been reading some line combos over the last few weeks and I will be very disappointed if DD or Eller centre our 4th line. That should be either White or Engqvist’s spot… or Konopka’s! 😉 DD and Eller both deserve the ice time of a 3rd line centre and should be treated accordingly, however, if Eller isn’t 100%, don’t rush him!

    And re. Thomas, he is top-5, but not #1. Although stats prove otherwise, Miller, Lundqvist, Rinne and Price are all better IMO. Stats are like bikinis… they reveal a lot, but not everything!

    • Jonson says:

      no way, eller should be our second line center to be honest. get rid of gomez then you can have eller and DD centering the 2nd and 3rd line. let them develope they have enough good wingers to back them up when they struggle. Eller is gonna be a great player soon enough, why wait another year for him to impact this team? he his good enough right now.

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        I am also an Eller fan and think he could eventually centre Pacioretty and Cole. Obviously, it might not pan out but the idea of size, skill, puck possession is tantalizing. Eller showed these skills and qualities toward the end of the season and indeed looked very good in the playoffs.

        Mike3131, I think it would be a tactical mistake to tell “the kid” that he has to wait another season, or even half season, and demote him to Hamilton. Conditioning stints are one thing but penciling in a veteran is another. Martin brought him along slowly, as may have been right, but Eller earned everything he got and to take it away because of injury would be an act of bad faith. The Habs have had too many headcases in recent years to create another.

    • Mark C says:

      No sense in rushing Eller, or any player at the start of the season. There is little rationale for Eller to play in Hamilton. He had 17 points while averaging ~11 minutes a game, as a 21 y/o. Both his play and responsibilities increased as the season went along. Both Eller and DD can get 3rd line minutes, just move DD to the wing.

      • Stev.R says:

        Eller looked fantastic in the playoffs. He can get better in the NHL

      • Jonson says:

        eller looked fantastic for atleast 45 games this year. put into the right situation and some time to develope ( in the NHL ) we will be an elite hockey player. this is looking really good for the future its gonna be an enjoyable ride very very soon.

    • SyntaxLove says:

      While I agree we shouldn’t rush him back and we need to sign a veteran presence for the bottom 6 regardless of Eller’s injury, there’s absolutely no sense in demoting him to Hamilton. Once he’s able to play again, he should.

      The notion that he’s currently better than Scott Gomez and should be our second line center is ridiculous. He’s certainly improved immensely over last season, but he’s not there yet. The better his play is, the more minutes and responsibility he’ll get.

      So, yes, bring in Stillman. White will have to fight it out to stay in the lineup and we’ll have a bit of injury insurance.


  16. EricInStL says:

    So Thomas is #1, who cares? Last year was last year. This year is a fresh start.

    The East is going to be more competitive than ever. The only sure dogs are the Islanders and Florida, the rest will be a dog fight from start to finish. Any team that goes into a 3 to 5 game losing streak is almost guaranteed to be out of the playoff picture.

  17. Bobby Orr says there is no room for headshots in the NHL. If only the idiots running the game would listen to him.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Except that nowhere in his speculation does he consider who plays which wing.

      • Mark C says:

        Good point, but it isn’t that big of a deal. Is it? AK can play both sides, Max is really just a LW. Both could play with Gomez/Gio on the left side. AK could play RW with Pleks/Cammi (most likely Cole plays here).

        • Stuck_in_To. says:

          Well, I think it is germane to the analysis and indicative of the level of crap blogged on the internet. You could have pieced together that analysis from the comments on this site so it peeves me that this guy is blogging (or whatever he is doing) under the aegis of some sort of authority and either cannot be bothered, or does not know, where these players line up. Either way, it’s bush league stuff. And now I must admit that at least part of my bitterness is wholly attributable to wanting to find good online hockey analysis to read. Suggestions welcome.

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  18. 24 Cups says:

    I’ll raise you one and make it an even hundred.

  19. SeriousFan09 says:

    Only so many times I can watch YouTube highlights, I need a fresh hit of hockey damn it! The summer is hell on a puck addict. Dry arguments, over and over and over again. Maybe NHL 11 is now cheap…

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  20. Jonson says:

    a real habs fan who has watched game in and game out with kovalev understands that he had a lot more bad times than he had good times. he was a terrible hab and ill never ever appreciate him. He toyed with with the media, fans, and the organization. He would play like crap and when finally everyone was giving him a hard time he would change his play and would be productive just enough to shut everyone up. the perfect example of this is when gainey benched him for 2 games and everybody thought he had played his last game for the canadiens. So he gets back in the lineup against ottawa and has 3 points with a goal and 2 assists. Just to shut everyone up and get them back on his side. the guy is a loser and if fans cant see that then there is a problem. I for one was telling everybody that we needed to trade him after the year where he scored 35 goals and 80 something points because i knew he would never do it again. He was fun to watch when he was on but he was mostly off and just seemed to bring the whole team down with him. i give that player no respect plain and simple. we are ten times better without him. I was shocked when he got 5 million per season with ottawa and it panned out just how i thought.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      Although I wouldn’t put it in such harsh words, I agree with pretty much everything you said. I never understood the level of love and respect Kovy got in this town. I think it’s shameful that a lot of fans wanted Kovalev to be captain over Koivu, a player who certainly had his share of faults but always gave the organization his best.

      Kovalev was just far too inconsistent to build a team around. He really was a maddening player to watch. I was glad that we didn’t keep him.

    • bwoar says:

      “a real habs fan…”


      • Jonson says:

        then why would you comment and did it not apply to you?

        im sorry but its true, the fans who jump on the bandwagon from time to time were loving kovy, it was the same for halak. true hab fans know whats going on. if you dont then too bad

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I understand your frustration with Kovy, I enjoyed his skills when things were going well but he broke our hearts more often than not. But I don’t see how you can lump Halak into this discussion. I have been a Price fan from day 1 and glad the team chose to keep him. But never had anything bad to say about Halak. Was a great luxury while we had it, to have 2 excellent goalies. Maybe I am misreading, but just don’t the Halak part.

          • ed lopaz says:


            one of the biggest reasons why Kovalev received so much respect in Montreal is due to the way Bob Gainey treated him.

            Gainey was a G-d when he was hired as GM of this team.

            Gainey brought in Kovalev and treated the player like royalty.
            same for Halak??

            you mean when Halak put up a .960 save percentage during those 5 playoff ELIMINATION GAMES vs Washington and Pittsburgh.

            yes – true fans were cheering for Halak.

            Halak was the best goalie in the world during those 2 series we won.

            Halak was Martins choice – not the fans choice.

            maybe you should ask Martin why he was cheering for Halak??

            he will tell you.

            its called winning!!

            Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

          • Jonson says:

            dont get me wrong i loved halak too and wanted him in net for the playoffs two years ago. but i think most people who are truly educated when it comes the habs knew it had to be Price. it was halaks year that year and i wanted him over price for that season as well. ‘but for the future there was never any doubt about who i wanted them to keep.
            im not comparing kovy and halak, im comparing the fans who wanted the habs to keep kovy and the fans who wanted to keep halak. for the people who seriously watch every game and follow the team year in and year out have to be happy on both accounts. getting rid of kovy and keeping price. i have no knocks on halak at all. except in game six when halak came out of his net against richards and richards scored, that was a game changer. other than that lol i have always liked halak and he deserves a lot of credit.

        • Rob says:

          That is ridiculous. Kovy could do things with the puck th at nobody on the habs has been able to do in decades. He could take a game over single handedly and had the potential to do something exciting every time he touched the puck. THATS why he had so many fans. Not because they werent real fans. Now was he a great player, of great character, who I’d still want on the team….no. But that doesn’t change what he was capable of and what so many people who are drawn to the artistic side of the game saw and loved about him.

          The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

          • Jonson says:

            zheredev possesses similars skills, you want him?

          • Rob says:

            If you believe Nicholay Zherdev possesses similar skills to Alex Kovalev then you are sorely mistaken. But in the hypothetical case that he did…if he were to bring that skill set to the Habs and play some, even occasional, breath taking hockey, then yes i would be drawn to such displays of skill. Hope that answers your question.

            The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

        • Arrow77 says:

          I understand why the “real habs fan” comment would annoy him.

          Personnally, I never understood why some people would love Kovalev that much and would prefer him over Koivu and I always thought Halak was streaky and overrated.

          Still, saying people who disagree aren’t real habs fans is disrespectful and will only get you disrespectful responses. Real hockey fans know to express themselves without hammering their opinion into other people’s head.

          • Jonson says:

            well said my friend. but im not putting anybody down on this website. i dont think that there is much debate about kovalev around here. and im sure no one on this website went to that stupid rally. im refering to the thousands of people that we prob know who follow the habs half heartedly and when it comes time to make certain decisions they say stupid things. so when i say the real fans…….cause lets be honest for a second there are real fans and then they are idiots……i dont mean most of the people on this website. i believe the guys and girls on this website have a clue.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      The appellation of l’artise perfectly sums up Kovalev. A temperamental genius. There never need be another word written about Kovalev for a Habs fan to thoroughly understand Kovalev as a hockey player.

      And Habs fans are pretty much like your average man who loves his wife, loves her steadfast practicality, her particular charms and devote … oh, look at that girl in the short red dress!

      Okay, back to reality.

  21. ManApart says:

    I find it entertaining to see how many people still can’t handle that Thomas is the best goalie in the league and Boston is the best team. The creative little games people play with themselves to try to deny that fact is hilarious. It’s a fact folks, there’s no getting away from it. People are dying for the season to start so they can get away from their worst nightmare scenario.

    • ooder says:

      although i have nothing against thomas.. i think he is a great competitor and goalie
      the bruins sicken me.. and no it’s not cause they are the best team or wtvr garbage you want to say
      it’s because they are allowed to break peoples backs, hit to the head, cheap shot and get away with it, while the second someone touches a bruin questionably its a big no no
      The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

      • Keith says:

        HEAR,HEAR! That is exactly how I feel about that team as well. And may I also add, that I personally have no respect for that team BECAUSE of what you mentioned above.

    • TINMAN17 says:

      ManA, Thomas is legit, that’s for sure. I think age may catch up to him, though. Maybe not this upcoming season but soon though. He’s approaching 40 and has injury issues in the not too distant past. But he definitely deserved all the accolades he received this season, but not the Vezina. HabsEyesonThePrize had an eye opening comparison of Price and Thomas, Price smoked him. I’m not saying Price deserved it, I’m just saying Thomas didn’t.

      Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        Well, we can come up will all kinds of advanced stats that show how great a season Price had, but it’s hard for people to turn a blind eye to the single-season SV% record combined with the other great numbers Thomas had.

        I don’t like the guy or the Bruins, but he deserved it. He also played his ass off in the playoffs, particularly the Finals.

        It’s okay. Price has MANY years ahead of him to accomplish the things that Thomas did. We should just be happy we have such a talented young goalie. As long as we build a solid team around him, we will be reaping the benefits for a long time.

        • TINMAN17 says:

          Find that article and it will change your mind on the single season save percentage record. I’m not saying he didn’t have a dazzling season but this particular article took a little of the shine off the brilliance.
          He definitely played his ass off in the finals, I think he bailed out an overrated Chara a number of times.

          Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            I’m not questioning the article or the fact that Thomas’ season wasn’t as great as the basic numbers show.

            I just think that these awards are given out based on the mainstream stats that are tabulated by the NHL. SV% is the big one for goalies. The fact that he set the record and was in the top 5 in numerous other categories cemented the Vezina for him.

            Simple as that.

          • TINMAN17 says:

            I can roll with that, Jan.

            Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        Thomas certainly got the job done but it’s hard to be a gracious loser when you saw some of the goals scored on him (Burrows comes to mind but Gionta twice from the circle was no great shakes either) and consider he lost his job to Rask the year before. He also “cracked” under media pressure with his hissy fit regarding Subban. So demerits for not being above that kind of crap either. Add to all that the uniform of a team of destiny, where destiny is Colin Campbell, and yeah, calling the Bruins the best team in the league is ashes in my mouth. But that is here, on a HABS forum. To the face of Bruins fan, congrats. Nuff said. Yup, you got the bona fides to brag. Try telling a Dallas fan that Hull was in the crease. Reality is not part of the winner’s equation. There have been plenty of respectable S.C. champions over the years, some more deserving than others. But the Bruins are not in that category.

    • J_P says:

      I dont necessarily think the best team always wins the cup. Do the bruins still win the cup if they played the sharks in the finals? What about the blackhawks? Or the red wings? Not so sure that they do. The bruins got an extremely favorable match-up for them for the cup final, and it was luck of the draw that got them that match up. They had no control over who their opponent was going to be.

      Thomas was definitely the top goaltender from last seasons, there’s certainly no disputing that.

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        I don’t really think they got a favorable match-up in Vancouver. I really thought Vancouver would blow them out of the water. Problem is, the Canucks were too concerned with what Boston was doing and they didn’t play their style of game. They could have beaten Boston, but Vigneault coached terribly, and the players on Vancouver reacted very poorly to the type of game Boston was playing.

        As much as I hate them, I still have to give Boston credit for winning the cup. They earned it. The 2nd round was easy for them because of the crappy goaltending Philly had, but they had to work hard in every other series.

    • gerrybell says:

      the leafs winning the cup is the worst scenario. the bruins winning the cup is just aggravating but deep down all habs fans can rest knowing that few people in boston care. i suppose they care after they finish cheering for the red sox, patriots, celtics, boston college basketball and football.

      • J_P says:

        you do realize that ONE MILLION people showed up for the parade right?

        I just hate the bruins because of the conflict of interest that persisted all season. If Chara would have gotten even one or two games for the hit on paccioretty, I wouldn’t be as bitter about boston winning the cup as I am. Before this season I actually had nothing against Boston, but to watch them get away with everything this past season really got under my skin.

    • Andrew65 says:

      Okay, Thomas was the best goalie last year, and also three years ago. Who knows what he will do next year. I think if he stays healthy, he may be the best again. So what.
      As for the Bruins being the best team, that’s quite arguable/laughable. They won the cup. Period. Be happy, and hope their next drought isn’t 39 years long.
      The Habs will win the division next year, and will have a good shot at going to the Final.

    • Arrow77 says:

      Thomas is a goalie with zero style, great reflexes and a truckload of competitiveness. He completely deserved the Vezina last year and may still lose his starting spot to Rask like he did the season before the last.

      Great goalie but I’m still more confortable with Price than I would be with him, even if he were younger.

    • saskhabfan says:

      I find it entertaining that you still show up with same ” i know more about hockey then everybody else” attitude when i alone have made you look absolutely foolish time and time again.

  22. TINMAN17 says:

    Thomas is the obvious choice for no.1 after the all the awards he won this season, deservedly or not. I can think of two that will definitely surpass him this year, Price and Miller. Lundquist and Rinne just don’t convince me for some reason.

    Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Thomas was very good this year, it can’t be denied. He was entertaining, to say the least and you can’t argue with the results. I would be very surprised if he follows it up this coming year with a similar performance. He was very could 3 years ago as well and then became known as the most expensive back-up in the league and the Booins couldn’t give him away.
      Lundquist can be a game-changer but how about those short siders? Is there a stat for most goals allowed from terrrible angles? The only other goalie who comes close in this “stat” is Luongo, who may be the most over-rated in the NHL.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree on all counts. As much as it hurts to say, Thomas was best goalie in the league last year period. Boston was also the deepest team in league, and were able to recover from the Savard injury.

        Will say however, if Boston had been missing there best Dman, one of their best Power Forwards, and either Boychuck or Mcquaid they would have been a different team also. They got their cup, now lets take it back!

        • Andrew65 says:

          Absolutely. Though I rate Georges well above Boychuk or McQauid. What makes it more galling is that our power forward was knocked out for the year by the team that would have lost in the first round otherwise.

  23. ooder says:

    you know what.. say what you want about kovy, but after a bad game, a bad stretch, a bad penalty the guy always faced the music and spoke to the media… and knew where he messed up.
    yes his mental game was a bit off in terms of motivating himself but this guy gave us habs fans some great memories, not to mention how he dominated every single playoffs he played for us. it’s easy to blame him for the meltdown that was the 08-09 habs
    and the debacle that is ottawa.. because you know.. he’s european so we can all just throw the “no heart” card easily.
    but this guy always had way more balls then pouliot, gomez and latendresse combined!
    The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

  24. Habtastic says:

    Well, I expected Thomas to be number one. I know many Habs fans praise Thomas and yes, he has achieved a lot (although according to me more because of his friendly smile and being protected by the NHL’s best defenceman…oh I meant the league office). People also remember the last series the most, which is understandable and I’ve never seen so many talented players just not know how to make a lateral pass, god Vancouver, you ruin everything! Anyway, on this type of list, sure give him number one. I actually really like Rinne. Although Lundqvist is a great goalie and like Miller has been consistent, I still 100% wouldn’t trust anyone as much as Carey Price. Anyway, this is a list and thankfully I get to have Price in net in real life. With the hopefully solid D we will have coming in over the years (if healthy and doesn’t have the one guy who plays the “Brisebois” role) Price will get his Vezina. Incidentally, we’ll also get our cups.

    Fleury and Luongo being so close makes me think these guys just look at stats. In these two cases…I’m not sure they mean much. Luongo did have a great season too, but thanks to Burrows didn’t get the total pwnage treatment from the Hawks.

    One thing is clear, the league is full of top-notch goaltending. Can anyone think of another sport where that position is so coveted and important? Yeah, football/soccer goalies are great at what they do, but someone let crucial. IMO as much as the failed Bettman states don’t care much, people are far more interested in hockey in the past few years although the obvious shadow looms heavily, i.e. the ATROCIOUS management of safety and discipline. Seriously Bettman et al., you fail so miserable. Anyway, GO CAREY!

    The Drive for 25 (and now 26)

  25. Tony McLean says:

    Has never won a playoff round. Until then it’s just male groupie talk.

    If Canadiens management and OWNERSHIP had any brains they would have added 3-4 SOB’s. Instead they plant pansies and wait for them to bloom.

  26. Neutral says:

    Lou did the right thing with Parise. he’s paying for damage goods may work out maybe not if everything works out 2012 he can think about signing him long term smart GM Parise seems to be happy with it or I’m sure he would not have accepted. PG should have done the same with Markov….

  27. kempie says:

    So today is day one of the two day KGCC Men’s Invitational golf tournament, held just down the street from me here in Peterborough. It’s a nice annual thing with some pretty good golfers from around the area & beyond. A local resident and KGCC member, Marc Savard (who always does very well) is playing again this year and, of course, he brought his friend Stanley. Normally, I’d be all over this, watch a few holes, check out the cup, take some pictures. But I just can’t do it. I’d puke in my mouth.

    Aside from the jersey he wears, I don’t have much of a problem with this guy. I’ve never met him but he strikes me as a decent guy. He’s extremely talented and is a victim of NHLBS and jackholes like Matt Cooke and, for that, I really feel terrible for this guy.

    I know if I went to this thing this year, I’d get kicked out. I’d be the guy cracking the inappropriate “jokes”. Never have I seen such a controversial, undeserved, league-assisted, hypocritical championship awarded in this league. The DAL/BUF toe in the crease in the closest that comes to mind and that was nothing compared to this.

    I’m happy for Mr. Savard, but I think it will be better for everyone if I just stay home this weekend.

  28. Ian Cobb says:

    Going to the Rodeo in Tweed Ont. this afternoon and evening.
    I am going to try the Bull Riding this year, since Price is not allowed. What the hell! only 8 seconds. Piece of cake, right?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have faith Ian, you will do great, just have all the tickets ready for mailing just in case. We can send somebody to the house to process this! Just kidding enjoy the rodeo!

    • TINMAN17 says:

      You guys have that free healthcare, right? Just checking, I’d make sure you had your premiums paid up if you were trying this down here.

      Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

    • GrimJim says:

      It’s rodeo weekend in Strathmore, too. The parade just finished, then its rodeo this aft with chuckwagon races this evening.

    • solomio says:

      Don’t know about your riding it but I know you shovel a lot of it.

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  29. eric says:

    Luongo is way overrated

    • Ian Cobb says:

      He is not even rated on my list Eric

    • TINMAN17 says:

      As an American who follows baseball rather closely, I have to say, Luongo is like Burnett of the Yankees. He is either lights out or playing like the lights are off, tons of talent but one hiccup and it’s game over. Somehow, the lack of mental toughness burns bright with these two in particular. Having Luongo in the top ten is merely media reputation alone. Just my opinion.

      Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

      • HabinBurlington says:

        That is a good analogy. Not so sure Luongo is Mr. All Canadian Teammate in the room either just like Burnett.

        • TINMAN17 says:

          I don’t know HiB, Burnett was Mr. Teammate in 09 when the Yanks won the series, all season with the shaving cream in the face routine for any walk-off wins. He seems solid in the locker-room, just not always mentally. Luongo, though, seems as though it is always about Roberto. I could be wrong but his comments during the Finals did it for me.

          Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Having watched him in Toronto here for awhile I have seen the pie act when things are going well for him. But also so many times when a player behind him makes an error or doesn’t make the play Burnett expects of them his look of disgust spoke volumes. Kind of like when a goalie shows up his teammates on a goal allowed.

            I think he is a complete frontrunner. When the going is good he’s great, as soon as things start to go wrong he becomes a selfish brat. Just my opinion but that was his track record in Toronto, where you could argue were some of his best seasons!

  30. Everlasting1 says:

    Tomas Vokoun sure is under-rated on that list. His SV% over the last number of years is superb. He’ll undoubtedly rack up more wins in Washington and an improved GAA.

    “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  31. pierre lapuck says:

    Some year I would really like to attend the summit and meet some of you guys in person. Sadly I have health issues that don’t really allow me to make those kind of long range plans; but maybe next year!

  32. JohnBellyful says:

    MONTREAL – The Montreal Canadiens announced today they will no longer give out the height and weight of their players, citing right-to-privacy and freedom-from-ridicule legislation.
    “Fans and sports journalists have made too much of how tall players are and how much they weigh,” general manager Pierre Gauthier said. “Does Hal Gil play like he’s nearly seven feet tall? No. Does Brian Gionta stay clear of the corners because he’s only five-foot-and-a-bit? No.
    “Size has nothing to do with how well a player plays. It’s gumption. And how do you measure gumption? By how often he out-hustles another player for the puck, or how often he’s willing to take physical punishment in front of the net to make a deflection or fire in a rebound. That’s gumption. What we need is a gumption scale, so we can say of a forward, he’s a seven-gump player.”
    The team started down this road when it began identifying injuries as either upper or lower body rather than disclose specifics.
    The Canadiens, in fact, are taking protection of their players’ delicate state of mind one step further by removing their names from sweaters and substituting aliases, so that none will take any abuse directed their way personally.
    “Who’s in net, What’s the top defenceman and I Have No Idea is our leading scorer,” Gauthier said, holding up three sweaters as examples.
    “Who’s in net?” asked one reporter.
    “Yep,” Gauthier replied.
    “That’s what I’m asking. Who’s in net?”
    “That’s right.”
    “What’s right?”
    “Actually, he plays defence on the left side.”
    “Who plays the left side?
    “No, he plays both sides. And the middle. Because he’s in net. What plays defence.”
    “What are you talking about.”
    “I am now. You brought him up. I was talking about Who.”
    “I Have No Idea Who or What you’re talking about.”
    “Exactly. All three. Any other questions?”
    There were. Visit

  33. J_P says:

    Really enjoyed the Gary Roberts piece. I thought it offered great insight into just how much training has evolved for a lot of these athletes. It’s not just about working out anymore, or keeping your cardio up, its about sport-specific exercises. Unbelieveable to think that 30 years ago Guy Lafleur was excelling on a training regimen of binge drinking and chain smoking lol

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Lafleur’s regiment is working just fine for my slo-pitch career!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      J_P, you got it all wrong. It wasn’t the chain-smoking and the drinking and the coke that prematurely ended Guy’s career, it was the Corey-Savard-Lemaire cabal that forced him to retire. It was never Guy’s fault.

      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I will never forgive Lemaire for how he treated Lafleur. Considering how much better Lafleur made Lemaire, he was treated with complete disrespect! Just thinking about that again is destroying my weekend.

        Why does this happen to our team, they did similar thing to Roy!

        Wait just remembered Ronald Corey is gone, I am better now.

  34. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Hard to argue with Thomas as #1. Proof’s in the pudding as they say. You could certainly quibble with the order of the top ten but there’s a lot of talent there. Anyone still complaining over trading the #17 goaltender and keeping a top 5?

  35. Chrisadiens says:

    This season cannot start soon enough. Thomas will come back down to earth, the bruins will actually be penalized without “daddy”, stars will re-align and all will be right with the world again.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • J_P says:

      I agree. I think Boston is going to experience a massive stanley cup hangover this year, and I definitely think Tuuka Rask emerges as the starter in boston again.

      • ProHabs says:

        Doesn’t matter what happens next year. The Habs let the Bruins go through them to win the cup this year. That monkey is now off the Bruins back and they are the f’in “champions”. Thanks Gomez for turning it up in the playoffs you bum.

        • J_P says:

          Get over it, next year is a brand new season, doesnt matter who won the cup the previous year. At the end of the day, the habs still have WAY more championships than the bruins, and I dont even count the bruins cup win as legitimate considering the enormous conflict of interest that went on all season.

  36. filincal says:

    How dare Lou give Parise only a one year contract. After all the promise he’s shown…but wait a minute, Lou’s one of the best GMs in the league.

    • J_P says:

      Clearly thats what an arbitrator would have awarded Parise anyways, so why bother going to arbitration? Hopefully for Zach he has a killer season and takes Lou to the cleaners next year.

  37. LL says:

    According to one of my friends who attend the Paul McCartney concert, fans chanted Ole, Ole, Ole for his encore, and everyone around her was talking about how much they missed Hockey, being in the Bell Centre and all. LOL

    Sounds like the HIOers were at the concert!

  38. TomNickle says:

    I was taking that list seriously until I saw Marc-Andre Fleury at #7.

  39. savethepuck says:

    Laffs fans must think there’s a misprint. Where’s Reimer? He’s supposed to be the reason they win the Cup this year.

    “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  40. Everlasting1 says:

    How long does it take the league’s think tank to make a decision on whether or not to include Savard’s name on the Cup?

    “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I have two friends that sit on that council, It’s not all what it is cracked up to be.!

      • Everlasting1 says:

        Ask them if the length of roster names and number of characters and space on the Cup is a determining factor. I’m curious. Perhaps they’re still measuring.

        “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

        “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  41. Ian Cobb says:


    I have 91 Summit game tickets spoken for.

    I am sold out, get your money orders in the mail today please. I have to pay for them this week.

    The Dallas Sept 20th and the Buffalo 21st pre season game is still available. The more of these I sell, the more Summit tickets I can get.

    If you want pre-season game tickets, call me right away please, before they are sold to the general public at a hire price. 613-968-9807—Ian

    Nov.18,19,& 20th 2011 (Itinerary) for our HIO Fan Summit.
    Park your car for the weekend, everything is two minutes walking distance.

    Friday evening—Meet and Greet, name tags at Hurley’s pub. 1225 Crescent St.

    Saturday–8am Breakfast Chez Cora’s. 1240 Drummond St.
    10am Tour Hall of Fame and Bell Center
    Hall of Fame Tour is now included in the price of your tickets.!!!!!!!!!
    3pm Baton Rouge for pre game meal and children’s
    charity raffle. 1050 Mountain St. (rue de la Montagne)
    7pm Game Hab’s vs Rangers

    After game celebration. the upstairs at Hurley’s pub reserved for us.

    Sunday—-Farewell breakfast and back to the airport for home.

    Hotel rooms– group rate at the Novatel Hotel, be sure to tell them you are with the HIO group to get the deal price. reservation # 514-871-2138

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I watched the Als. Hamilton CFL game last night!

      I have never seen the Alouettes play so poorly.
      Callvio was off badly.
      Receivers and backs dropped balls all night.
      Our tackling is the worst in the league.
      Discipline was non existent, penalties like crazy.
      And the once proud defense, took the night off.

      They have a lot of work to do before they meet Toronto Thursday night.

      • HabFab says:

        Ian, starting to get worried about AC. His passing has gone to the dogs and then that mysterious eye blurring. Hope his C is not spreading…don’t even want to say it or think it.

  42. HabinBurlington says:

    Now here is a story that will warm the cockles of your heart.–campbells-keep-cup-in-the-family

    I am actually unsure whom I dislike more Bettman or Campbell.

  43. HabinBurlington says:

    Kings have made it official they are filing a grievance regarding Ryan Smyth/Curt Fraser trade.,0,4822175.story?

  44. HabinBurlington says:

    If I was a GM in this league, I would tell any player during contract talks, “You want an extra 15% on your contract, agree to work out with Gary Roberts every off season and the raise is yours.

    I think pretty fair having Price slotted at #5. Not sure the Halakian fans will be happy with his placement. And how much longer will Mikka Kiprusoff be living off that magical playoff run over 5 years ago….

    And finally, HIO just can’t get enough of their Bruin’s picks. If the love is so strong why not a pic of Thomas making a save given the goalie ranking article. I swear, sometimes I think a 5 year old Bruin fan picks these pics!

  45. TheKarl says:

    Who is in charge of picking the pictures for every new post? Horton’s game 5 dagger, really??

  46. 24 Cups says:

    First Kariya, now Savard and maybe even Crosby, the face of the post lockout NHL. How many star players does the NHL have to lose before they take real action on the concussion crisis?

    • HalifaxHabs says:

      With the current gang of cronies running the league, it will never happen. It’s going to start with a new commish… and who knows how long it will be until we get a new one of those.

    • centre hice says:

      The league has been run for a long time by ex fourth liners. A bunch of ex NHLers that couldn’t make it as stars themselves, and don’t respect the current stars in the league.

  47. 24 Cups says:

    Thomas was the best player in the NHL last year once Crosby got concussed. End of story.

    The new Rinne contract (once it’s sgned) should set the bar for what Price gets.

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