Price, Price and more Price

Pat Hickey’s take:

“There
was never any doubt that Price would sign and my only surprise was
that Gauthier seemed unnecessarily generous, giving Price $2.5 million
in the coming season and $3 million the following season.

“It’s a
bargain if he can surpass the numbers he put up as a rookie. But it
will be wasted money if he doesn’t improve over his performance since
February 2009. Since Price appeared in the 2009 All-Star game in
Montreal, he has looked like anything but an all-star. His record in
that period has been 20-32-10 which means that he has lost more than
twice as many games as he has won”

Interesting analysis from Arpon Basu:

” … a
$2.75 million cap hit over the next two years is a good deal for both
Price and the Canadiens. It gives both sides a good window to see what
will become of this talented young man who clearly lost his way at last
year’s All-Star break, but who hasn’t necessarily lost it altogether.
For Price, he makes a very decent wage and has two years to prove
himself. For the Canadiens, should Price completely flop his contract is
not an albatross and is only on the books for two years.”

Boone rants

• And in La Presse, Richard Labbé writes “with two weeks to go until the opening of training camp, Pierre Gauthier can breathe a bit easier. The most pressing issues have been taken care of, and the club can concentrate on hockey.”

At ruefrontenac.com, Pierre Durocher says the Canadiens were very generous in the amount of money they’ve shelled out for Price.

Bob Hartley predicts Price will be under enormous pressure.

And ticket packages go on sale online tomorrow.

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585 Comments

  1. fbkj says:

    that game was december 30 2008

    before the all star game

    ;)

  2. fbkj says:

    its an ALL STAR GAME!!!

     

    my GOD

  3. jrshabs1 says:

    Check your facts before you spew your nonsence. Carey Price played the 1st period of the 2009 allstar game and East led the West 4-2 heading into the intermision. The turning point for Prices carreer to date was a shootout win against Tampa Bay shortly after the allstar game where Price proceeded to do the “Usane Bolt” pose after the victory plus he sparained his ankle during the game…and the rest is history.

  4. Psycho29 says:

    Hey you forgot to mention your “Hockey Wives” theory…..

  5. volcano62 says:

    Very true. I would not be surprised if he takes the #1 spot in nets this season.

  6. volcano62 says:

    Dude maybe you need a psychiatric facility…..It doesn’t take a genius to realise Price stunk up the joint during the all star game.

  7. joeybarrie says:

    5.75 million roll sof the dice. Seems to me it is that way with every contract that is signed…

    You cannot tell me Halak is not a 15 million dollar roll of the dice, and Niemi is not a 2 million dollar roll of the dice.

    Looks like Ryder was a 12 million dollar roll of the dice, and Souray was a 21 million dollar roll… Kovalev was a 10 million dollar roll, and KOMISAREK was a 22 million dollar roll.

    I think we will see… But we will never see what people will say as soon as we stumble a bit. HALAK would have done it, Halak would have gotten a shut out, Halak would have won us MORE GAMES…

    Its always what could have been in this city…  Well the fans COULD HAVE supporter the T-E-A-M… Not just a few individuals. Thank God the TEAM knows this… And thats why we made the Conf Finals. Not because of any individual. And if you think im wrong about that, then you are as naive as people think…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  8. nick says:

    Well they also said MTL wasn’t going to make it to the playoffs last season either… How did that turn out?

    In my opinion, you can’t really consider him correct until the season is over and you have Halak’s and Price’s stats in front of you.

  9. Curtoph says:

    That is a good one!!! :P haha

  10. Habsone says:

    It’s time to prove yourself now!!  No more excuses!!

  11. davelecave says:

    Boone burn.

  12. sidhu says:

    Hartley predicts Price will be under enormous pressure.  In other news, Hartley predicts the sun will rise tomorrow.

  13. nick says:

    Man I feel like have deja vu all over again…

    Price shows up… Has a great first season, people praise him, the savior of MTL blah blah blah… People stack ridiculous expectations on the 21-22 year old, and the next season he doesn’t do as well, nor live up to peoples expectations.

    So, hes an underachiever, worthless, overrated, toss in a negative phrase… Price has been called that over the last year.

    PK Subban arrived in MTL, had a great first season… There is alot of hype surrounding the kid… It should be interesting to see if he lives up to fans, and the medias expectations… ie: rookie of the year which he’s already being nominated for by some…

    If he falls short, all i have to say is good luck you poor bugger.

  14. Storm Man says:

    Bob Hartley predicts this guy needs to take he head out of his anesse. Im so glad the Habs did not hire this guy as coach.

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  15. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Good luck Habs and Price after all it’s a 5.75 million american roll of the dice….we’ll see!

  16. punkster says:

    The deal? Reasonable rate and term. More money than I had hoped ($1.5M max) but that was never going to happen in this league. Just my wishful thinking.

    Expectations? No excuses, none of this “he isn’t getting the goal support”, “he isn’t seeing the shots”, “he isn’t getting defence support”. Just do what you’re paid to do. Stop the freakin’ puck man.

    Predictions? Not a chance I’m going there baby. Using stats and historical data to predict an outcome is still just a guess in pro sports. Those who forecast doom and gloom are no better at seeing the future than those who predict a 3rd round playoff exit and how many of those did we read last September? Tons from one side almost none from the other.

    Looking forward to this season!

    FREE TIMO!

  17. mike g says:

    Been reading a couple of forums since last night….

    Funniest quote I heard regarding the signing of Price:

    ” I heard the contract is $5m the first year and $500,000 the second year. Reports also about this contract circumcising the salary cap. “

    Some humans are just so creative, eh…?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  18. mrhabby says:

    i hope he waits until trade deadline.  maybe Guerin could help but i heard Philly is really interested in him.

  19. fun police says:

    you’re right.  people have a hard time understanding it was pleks or halak.  teams are constantly looking for top 6 players.  it was a no brainer.  also, there are many good goaltenders in the league so no need to overpay for one.  

  20. Mike Boone says:

    You’re judging him on the ALL-STAR GAME?????

    Man, are there are psychiatric facilities where you live?

  21. Jordio-oh says:

    or properly understand it.

  22. mrhabby says:

    Don’t get me wrong. Price has to improve and his maturity level is the first thing that i have noticed as well . I still think he has great upside and hence how do you trade that away.I guess keepers take time to mature we will see shortly.

    As far as the great purge of 09 it was time for a change. Dressing room need a big change of chemistry  and i for one think it was a great move. Whats BG suppose to do ..come back with the same players the following year.

    its easy for us to sit back and be critical.

  23. Jordio-oh says:

    It’s also possible they save that cap room and make an aquisition at the trade deadline if we are in a good position to do so.

  24. Kappy says:

    This is indeed great news.  There was never a doubt in my mind that Pricey was gonna sign.  He just needed to get that rodeo business out of the way first.  IMO, Price is going to play with a real chip on his shoulder this year and prove to all his critics that he is the goalie we drafted 5 years ago.

    Does anyone think that we are going to use that extra $2 million to sign anyone else?  We need a top 6 winger, but is there anyone out there that can be signed for under $2 million? Yes, I know Bill Guerin is available, but I think that Gauthier would rather wait and see how BP and AK fair for the first couple of months before signing anyone else.

    I also think that the Molson boys need to spend to the cap every year in order  to give us the best chance at returning to glory.

    Can hardly wait until Sept.22nd pre-season game vs the Bruins on RDS

  25. SLONCOLD says:

    Well, i don’t know about terrible teams but my point is i want to see carey in 60 games this year. if auld is outplaying price and earning more starts…. yikes there will be trouble in habs land

  26. mrhabby says:

    i will cut PK some slack as i consider him a rookie still . he will make mistakes Ian but looks like he is dynamic enough to come back and make an excellent play after and make you forget his blunders.

    also…i really hope Ryan OB has a great year.

  27. fbkj says:

    no we let him go to make room for plekanecs contract

    although this has been told to you before so no i dont actually expect a response, let alone a chance in hell youll even read this

  28. nunacanadien says:

    It is interesting also how Gainey assessed the team this way on April 23, 2009, and proceeded in the summer to destroy the team that in Gainey’s opinion, did not support Price.  Last year with a new team, Price still did not win even when Halak like the year before, earned enough wins to get the Habs into the playoffs.  I am sorry, if Price does not have a professional team ethic, and able to play with professionals, as illustrated in the All Stars, Price when he had the best of the best still did not win his period of All Star hockey.  Granted All Star games are all but glorified pond hockey with very little checking so there are many quality shots as a result.  It was these quality shots Price could not stop and he still could not stop those quality shots.  I am not talking about floaters or rebounds or deflections.  These are one on one with a straight view, mano a mano as they say.  But did Price win?  Nope, he collapsed literally.  And we throw away our goalies for this?

  29. Ian Cobb says:

    Auld is not to shabby my friend, he has played for some terrible teams.

  30. SLONCOLD says:

    look most of us don’t blame price for the loses… but at the same time you can’t make excuses for him not winning either. it is what it is. price will need to put up better than 2.77gaa  for us to make the playoffs; he’ll have to come up with big saves even when the team has an off night in front of him.

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    And PK, He will be 4th on the team scoring this year.!

  32. Drew42 says:

    Yeah I need some tickets to that one too! I didnt know they were on sale yet…

     

  33. SLONCOLD says:

    i think if auld is pushing price for starts we’ll be in trouble. Auld’s career numbers are 904sv% 2.78gaa. not something i would call very good. I just hope he can keep us in the games when called on.

  34. nunacanadien says:

    This is a fair assessment of Price.  So its a nice way of saying we’re screwed for 2 years, Apron Basu is quite correct.  Here we let go a hot goalie to make room for Carey Price’s contract.

  35. mrhabby says:

    its interesting many people dump on Price but yet the team in front of him many times gave him zero support and were offensivley challenged many nights. It could be along year if the 3rd and 4th liners don;t pick up the slack.

    Players that must have very good years..AK , BP , LR, ML.

     

  36. SLONCOLD says:

    it’s goign to be a long hard season. don’t expect guys to be blocking shots like they did in the playoffs.

    Montreal doesn’t score much so carey will have to be on his game and will have to steal some games for us as well this year. i’m pulling for the guy but he’s got to produce; no more excuses of he plays stronger teams or the team doesn’t score for him or he gets bad bounces… goalies have to put themselves in a potion to make big saves and trust me if he can get off to a hot start it will help the habs out big time.

  37. Ian Cobb says:

    You know, i think there is going to be much more pressure on our so called back up, to push Price to earn his ice time. There is going to be great competition for the net this year.

    Not many people realise that our back up also wants the net and he is a very good goal tender. So watch out for further developments boys and girls, nothing is given in this league, you have to earn it.

  38. soperman says:

    Congratulations Carey.  No go out and prove you deserve all this confidence that they have placed in you.

    _________________________________________________________________

    “You want to keep weening de Coupe? Then sign zee great Pew-sie!”

  39. dleb84 says:

    I agree that Price will be under enormous pressure but it his success will really depends on how well our D play in front of him.  Gorges must be Gorges, Gill must be Gill of the playoffs etc.  I am really hoping Obyrne can turn into that shut down Dmen we have been waiting for. 

    I think everyone knows Niemi is a good goalie but his stats are hard to judge based on the team in front of him. 

    What do you think Carey would have accomplished if he played for the Hawks last year? 

    On a side note, what happened in the juniors game?  I saw the Louis had 9 PIM?  Is he scrappier than I thought?

  40. DavidKB says:

    Great compilation of CP’s finer moments; not so flattering for the D or rest of the team.

  41. jimmy shaker says:

    Very true statement…..very true!

    Shaker

  42. jimmy shaker says:

    I already know that MAB isn’t coming back….it’s more like wishful thinking, just how I wish they would bring back Dandenault.  Anyway my feathers are basically already gone……. another year or two and the locks will be totally gone.  If you still have your lettuce, keep it!  I would if I could!  We’ll keep it at a friendly bet I guess!

    Shaker

  43. sillywalk says:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2009020200

    The above game was painful to watch. 3 times the Thrashers came back right after MTL goals, and at least twice they pulled off the same play to deke Price that a blind rhesus monkey could have seen coming. Every time it was tied or they were down, MTL came back only to have Price asleep at the switch. Let’s not blame all of his woes on the offensive output of the team. Was it the rest of the team’s fault when they would have needed to score 8 goals to win by 1 in Vancouver?

  44. notbigbird says:

    Cammy has both talent and media savvy and will be around for awhile. We don’t know if Josh will be around for the long haul. I’m also unsure that BG will be here until his contract expires — just a feeling more than anything.

  45. habaddict_andy says:

    I’m afraid your alone in this one Jim.  You and RDS anyway.

  46. Jordio-oh says:

    Yeah, I’ll agree with that.

  47. Storm Man says:

    So can we make this into a bet? If the Habs bring MAB back I will shave my head( OMG I love my hair) and if they don’t you have to do the same. And the loser has to post the pic on here.

     

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  48. Chorske says:

    They don’t count at all, actually. They should be done away with, they are a waste of time.

  49. jimmy shaker says:

    No the +/- will be in the minus area (hopefully in the single digits) but the 15+ was referring to the amount of goals he would get.  Sheldon Souray like numbers at a fraction of the cost, am I right?

    Shaker

  50. Chorske says:

    OMG I’d forgotten about the HOCKEY WIVES!

    Seriously, you kinda made my noon hour by reminding me of that.

  51. jimmy shaker says:

    Love the clip for sure, but I’d love MAB to be back here.  15 goals from the backend at a crazy cheap price/caphit…..I say yes everytime!

    Shaker

  52. observer says:

    you are 100% right

  53. Chorske says:

    My fave is still, we got Price for 8 million less than what the Blues paid for Halak

    You can’t make up stuff like that. It’s like a nugget of gold. A nugget of something, at any rate.

  54. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ll supply the clippers!

    Shaker

  55. jimmy shaker says:

    I think they take him on and by the new year Hammer is dealt for a bag of pucks so we get something in return for him rather than letting him go for free at the end of the year…. then when MAB is fully recovered he slots in and Hammer gets shipped out.  It won’t happen…..I know!  But I would like it to!

    Shaker

  56. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Josh for captain, Gionta and Gill with the A’s.

  57. Malreg says:

    I think even before this signing the plan was to move Malkin to the wing permanently.  They have no top 6 wingers besides Kunitz, and they have 3 top 2 centres.  Malkin is one of the worse centers in the league for faceoff’s, where Crosby and Stall are always at the top, so makes sense to switch Malkin.  Their top 6 will probably look like:

    Kunitz – Crosby – Dupuis/rookie

    Malkin – Staal – Talbot

  58. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I hope OB has a big year too, I still don’t understand why he wasn’t dressed in place of MAB agaisnt the Flyers last spring.

  59. KenD29 says:

    Stubbs came across a little more reserved while Boone… let’s just say he was not impressed by Mr. Schwartz’s “creative” journalism!

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  60. habaddict_andy says:

    Gionta has all the criteria to become a captain.  It’s a no brainer, he’s our next captain.  Although Josh is very close second.

  61. J.J. of Turku says:

     That would three G’s… ;)

     

    http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

  62. pic1983 says:

    Ovechkin is the face of the franchise, their leading offensive player, a clutch goalscorer, a capital for life and he is quite vocal and fiery.  Hes a pretty good captain and will only get better.  Making Kovalchuk the captain of atlanta was stupid, and just a ploy to try to get him to sign an extension. 

  63. Storm Man says:

    If the Habs bring MAB back I will shave my head.

  64. volcano62 says:

    pot meet kettle

  65. volcano62 says:

    +1 wtf is going on with this organization?

  66. pic1983 says:

    I agree, and I like Josh Gorges as a candidate.  As you said, its not about points, its about someone who goes to battle for his team night in and night out. If we can sign him to an extension than I would definitely give him the C.  My second choice would be Gionta.  His intensity is awesome.  He’s also a stanley cup champion, and a clutch performer.  Gionta definitely commands respect. 

  67. SLONCOLD says:

    Boone and Stubbs really let that blogger/goalie coach have on tony’s show on the Team 990. Kinda funny how what he said created that much of a “booboo” with some of the jounalists. very interesting perspective from both ends.

    Boone or stubs it would be kool if you guys could post a few things that you said and weigh in on it a little bit more; as most of us don’t really get to see the ins and outs of sports journalism.

  68. KenD29 says:

    Watch for Gionta to be wearing the C this year, Gorges will have the A until Markov is back.  Cammi the other A.

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  69. RGM says:

    Well said. Statistical leaders are one thing, locker room leaders are something different. To this day I still don’t understand Ovechkin as the captain in Washington.

    The team is fortunate to have options for the C – there’s not a clearcut runaway favourite, and I’m hopeful that whomever the selection is it’s somebody that all of us can agree is a very good choice. Obviously I hope it’s Josh, but I’d be very happy with any of the other candidates.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  70. blu3chip says:

    I can see why you are named “Jack S”.

  71. KenD29 says:

    Anyone have a pair for the game against the Bruins on Sat. Jan 8th that can not be used?

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  72. Kappy says:

    IMO, Josh will not be named captain unless he signs an extention.  Therefore, I think that Gionta or Camalleri will wear the C.  My pick is Mike, I love the way he handles the media and he is are best player, next to Markov of course.

  73. mike g says:

    Youppi!

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  74. RetroMikey says:

    And you’re no better you redneck than to criticize everyone’s comments on this site and follow me and everyone around who have something negative or to criticize the team.

    You really are a hole with a big A in the front.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  75. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    fans buy the bricks.

  76. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    fans watch on tv driving up the ratings otherwise the television contracts wouldn’t be worth squat.

  77. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    fans buy the beer.

  78. fbkj says:

    fans buy the youppi!

  79. fbkj says:

    fans buy the these guys

  80. habaddict_andy says:

    There is a one wrong satement in the article “Andrei Markov is a top 10 D”.  Actually, he is a top 5 defensemen.  Mark my words.  There is no bias of opinion here.

  81. Bill J says:

    Excellent point that I sincerely hope Adam ponders for a while.

    ;)

  82. Everlasting1 says:

    Sorry. Has to be said. Epic fail on management’s dealing (or lack thereof) with Halak’s camp striking a very possible $3mil+/yr to keep him here. That was very doable. On top of that, we have no more depth, size nor scoring ability going into this season. What REAL expectations do you have? Based on what? You’re all carrying unfounded optimism and ‘hope’ from last season’s ‘success’. At the very least, we’ll be scrambling for a top 6 forward at trade deadline in making a playoff push. But I hope I’m wrong.

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  83. habaddict_andy says:

    Price being a big guy, maybe the D was working harder in protecting Halak.  They did not want the poor guy to break.  That’s right, supporting Price here.

  84. Bill J says:

    I think the statement is better understood as:

    We fans do NOT pay for his salary, IE it does not come out of our wallet no matter what.

    We fans are NOT forced to pay for his salary, if you choose to support the team despite players getting paid XXX $ – then that is your own issue.

    Not trying to say you should find another team, but we as fans have a choice as to what to spend our money on.

    Owners, and their employee’s the GM’s THEY pay the contracts, to ensure the team is marketable for one, and for two is competitive (at least when it comes to the Habs anyways)

    Yes ultimately, a NHL team gets its money from the fans.  But seeing as the fans are spending enough to pay off these salaries, seems to me the fans like what they see.

    Get my meaning ?  Dont like it – dont buy it, make your message loud & clear.

  85. Everlasting1 says:

    Like we’ll ever see that again..hanging on by our fingernails.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  86. Rudy says:

    Excellent post. Especially regarding the locker room. Markov was gone. No one could play a Captain role that early in the season and right the ship and help CP.

  87. adam76 says:

    Great post – agree 100%

  88. habaddict_andy says:

    http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=536504&navid=DL|STL|home

    By the way, no choice but to flush my sh*t.

  89. mike g says:

    Well…

    Once when I baught a cap at the Bell Center, I told the girl at the cash that I wanted my $32.94 to pay for Markov’s salary.

    She said alright, and put it in an envelopped under the cash with “Markov” written on it. It was a pretty thick envelop. I felt sorry for Garth Murray that day, his envelop had two $5 bills. And I don’t think someone asked for them to be there. The girl found the money on the floor, and chose to put it in Garth’s pay.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  90. Bill J says:

    I think you are welcome to jump off the cliff you so clearly want to jump off of.  We will not stop you!

    I think that a team that has made the ECF, does not make it solely because of ONE player.

    I think the Management team that built this ECF is still in place, and if they felt the “Price was Right”, then in fact it must be Right!

    I think that it is far easier based on the above statements to be optimistic.

    It’s not like this team missed the playoffs here or was swept in 4 in the first round.

    There is ample reason to have more optimism then negativity.

    The only question I have for you is: Have you ever been optimistic, EVER ?

  91. saskhabfan says:

    Price will be 9 times as dangerous on the ice as mountainbiking. It will be 9 times harder to score on him. Poor sour puss adumbdumb will pout 9 times as hard. Perhaps yourself and manapart can rent one of those romantic dual riding mountain bikes and drive off a cliff ala thelma and louise.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  92. fbkj says:

    thats pretty rude he prefers bank notes or money orders

  93. observer says:

    NHLPA agrees to Bettman’s demand AS I SAID right from the start that they would becaiuse all they were doing was letting him change 2 clauses FOR NEXT YEAR and then the entire CBA would be on the table again. So it was either have each of those players lose serious money and court cases to follow as well as Kovalchuk maybe to Russia or let Bettman change a rule for ONE YEAR that next year probably no one would try to break anyway.

  94. saskhabfan says:

    HIO town drunk adam can make the team payroll by himself.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  95. jrshabs1 says:

    Lars Eller can play on my team anyday. There are 29 other teams that you can call your own. I wouldn’t cheer for a team who’s management dealings are deemed epic failure by an obvious hockey expert. Move on partner we don’t need your kind in these parts.

  96. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    you should know, you have season tickets.  you’re a big shot.

  97. observer says:

    Halak’s agent said Gauthier never even tried to contact him about a contract before trading him away and keeping what they have brainwashed themselves into thinking is a thoroughbred.

  98. adam76 says:

    no such thing as luck

  99. Everlasting1 says:

    It’s amusing how you dismiss my whole argument and made it about ONE player. We haven’t addressed our other issues in this off-season.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  100. observer says:

    but she took those envelopes and gave them to gilett.

  101. mike g says:

    Like dumba*s fans?

    Yeah I know, gettin’ rid of guys like you is impossible. You feed off of positivity, and just stirr up a bunch of brown sh*t

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  102. Bill J says:

    Yes Halak’s agent is also well known for making statements that make his client look good.

    Did he twitter what you said in your post ? I believe that is his favorite method of Shit Disturbing.

    Just like when he twittered a “Major Announcement” about Halak, that turned out to be Jaro signing for a good cause in the Montreal area this weekend.

    Yeah Walsh is a sweet & innocent bystander that should be trusted at his word.

    Cough, Cough, Cough

    BullSpit!

  103. adam76 says:

    It shows how many of his weak goals were mental mistakes.  Sorry you don;t see that.  

  104. Everlasting1 says:

    Top 6 is he? We’ll see. Unfounded optimism is for Laff fans.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  105. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    A team is a business, and the fans are it’s customers.  It’s pretty basic.  No fan (customer) support and the Team (business) fails.  So for all intents and purposes we do pay the salaries,  maybe not in a direct fashion, but most certainly in an indirect fashion.

  106. adam76 says:

    over a rye on the rocks.

     

     

  107. Bill J says:

    You find it amusing when someone replies to your posts, and what YOU say directly ?

    You started with Halak, and clearly you see no reason to be positive without having Jaro in MTL.

    Seems pretty clear to me what your agenda is.

    Ironicaly, I found it amusing that you found my reply amusing.  Why ?  Because you tried to be a smartass, and ended up looking like a dumbass.

     

  108. saskhabfan says:

    Adam is far to stupid to ponder anything intelligent.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  109. observer says:

    Re: Yes Halak’s agent is also well known for making statements that make his client “look good”. —    —   —     his agent made him look good? check out his stats check out stoning washington and pittsburgh in the playoffs. last 3 wins over washington allowing a goal each game facing about 150 shots? halak doesnt need an agent or anyone else to make him “look good”.

  110. Ian Cobb says:

    Everlasting,

    First, Halak did not fit into our future team plans. He asked for a trade and he got it. We got great value for a guy that was not able to stay here in any event. We show cased him in the play off for more value coming our way.

    Our plan was always to get Price ready to take the number one spot from the day we drafted him. He is getting close and will arrive for his team mates this year as it goes along. Once this kid puts it all together, he will be around the Bell Center for many years.

    We have a better team than last year,  this year they all know each others names, unlike 12 months ago. They are ready to take on all comers right out of the gate this fall.

    Enjoy the process of reaching for the top one player and move at a time, it is 89% of the ride.

    Or you could always be a Leaf supporter, if you have a half century to hang around my friend.

  111. adam76 says:

    Just as I predicted.  Here – you can have the last shot so you can “win”

  112. Ian Cobb says:

    Any player who publicly ask for a trade during the season is done like dinner from that moment on.

    No room for selfishness in a team sport, ever.!

  113. Bill J says:

    The problem with this statement, is the fact that the Bell Center has been sold out for MANY MANY MANY years now.

    The Habs are FAR from failing as a business.  It is in fact one of a handfull of SUCCESFUL business’s in the NHL (only a handful actually turn a profit)

    Perhaps you miss-understood the point I was making. ;)

  114. LA Loyalist says:

    Lars Eller can play on your team anyday? I have one word for you, go crazy. 

    But with respect to the Habs, he’s a big MAYBE.

    We don’t know. He might be the next Beliveau, he might be the next Wickenheiser (and I don’t mean Haley).

    So you might want to be a bit more circumcised in your pronouncements especially when you suggest bouncing HIO posters who are just as entitled to elbow up to the bar as much as you or I.

    The jury’s out on Eller. Time will tell.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  115. Exit716 says:

    If you’re talking over priced players, look at Pouliot and Kostitsyn’s contracts.

     

  116. Storm Man says:

    I will let the other’s on this site finish you off.

     

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  117. fbkj says:

    well i pay in a DIRECT fashion and im not kvetching… *shrugs*

  118. BJT says:

    Third

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  119. Sheldon says:

    Don’t be raggin’ on the Leafs. If the Habs had some truculence, they would not have been spankified by the Flyers in five games.

  120. LA Loyalist says:

    and we can thank Bob Gainey for that for not bringing Koivu back to help manage the rebuild. 

    What did he think was going to happen in the dressing room last October where you have 22 guys wearing freaking name tags like at a convention.

    I mean really.

     

    “still bitter over lots of Habs Management screw ups.”

  121. Everlasting1 says:

    I have no ‘agenda’. I’m simply of the opinion that management hasn’t addressed the team’s weaknesses. You have a problem with that? You feel the need to berate?

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  122. DavidKB says:

    Just heard on CBC radio that Kovalchuk is approved for $100 million over 15 years with the Devils.

  123. Ice Storm says:

    Go Carey…

    Go Habs…

    ‘Nuff said… Let’s play some hockey

    Combination for sucess: 46-14-13

  124. fbkj says:

    they traded halak to adress other concerns, goaltending is not a problem with the habs

  125. Ian Cobb says:

    Is that nuts or what.!??

  126. SeriousFan09 says:

    If Pouliot scores 20 goals, his contract is fine at 1.35 for the season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  127. fbkj says:

    you really should start following walsh’s tweets, i dont think you understand how he comes off in the twitterverse…

  128. Everlasting1 says:

    I NEVER heard Halak go public stating that. Post a link for the audio please. Halak selfish? Ok Tom..er, Ian.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  129. Bill J says:

    1) BullSpit you do not have an agenda, If you had only posted ONE negative post on the subject.  I would not accuse you of having an agenda.  Seeing as this is far from being the ONLY time.  You have an agenda.

    2) yes I have a problem with having to see your idiotic and quite ridiculous claims that we should ALL follow your lead and be negative.

    3) Feel the need to berate ?  Your initial post started with “It needs to be said”  Just because I replied without using those same very words, doesn’t mean my reply did not also “need to be said”

    But nice try! ;)

  130. fbkj says:

    i can only speak for myself but i dont think thats what ian meant, halak NEVER asked for a trade, hes a classy kid

  131. LA Loyalist says:

    good and useful analysis, as opposed to pure rant. No question everyone was gassed by the time we got Philly, and they sure had an easier path. We were not a deep team last year and losing Markov of course was major.

    But that’s always been the way with Cup winners,  you hope for everyone else plays 7 games with lots of overtime and you get through with 5 or 6. It’s a war of attrition, which is why you need 4 balanced lines and a defence that can do mobility or shut down.

    Let’s see how we look. We still need a mean power fwd and a defence guy who hits like a truck.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  132. observer says:

    so instead of trading him they used him because they knew their only chance to make the playoffs let alone get to the 3rd round was if he played because they knew he was better than the other goalie they have been wrong about from the start. bill parcells said “you are what your record is”! and price is 20 wins 49 losses in his last 69 decisions since jan.1, 2009 to the present including playoffs.

  133. nickster13 says:

    No matter how you twist the logic, i will still miss miss Halak and the way he played down the stretch

  134. mike g says:

    That’s a ton of cake.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  135. DavidKB says:

    Even more nuts, it seems than the $102 million over 17 years that was rejected by the NHL back in July.

  136. Everlasting1 says:

    What concerns were addressed? Another 5 years to rebuild?

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  137. Ian Cobb says:

    His agent acts for him and I am sure half the people on here know it was said.!

  138. observer says:

    they did ask for a trade BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BEING USED – i heard his agent on team 990 say that. and gainey said he would try but instead price kept playing like garbage and they were forced to use halak and the rest is history.

  139. fbkj says:

    ~so instead of trading him they used him because they knew their only
    chance to make the playoffs let alone get to the 3rd round was if he
    played because they knew he was better than the other goalie they have
    been wrong about from the start~

    LOLWAT?

  140. HabFarmer says:

    You meant to write “circumscribed”, right?  Or were you meaning to be funny?

    I’m just askin’…………. .

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  141. Ground Chuck says:

    Halak’s cap hit is $1million/year more than Carey’s. By Moving Jaro, that gave the Habs two young players in return, plus being able to get Pleks signed, plus roughly $2million in cap space to start the year.

  142. CanadienBoy says:

    When you look at the # of goalies on the market, GM pulling the trade early was smart and the return 1 and 3 rd with Eller  ready to play even better ,like all trade time will tell my bet is Keller will scare the shit off Poupou for the second line .

  143. Ian Cobb says:

    If I remember correctly his agent put it out there, like play me or trade me. But someone out there must have it right.

  144. fbkj says:

    oh this i didnt know

    i meant a danny heatley type of trade demand

    en tous cas…

  145. Ice Storm says:

    oops double post

    Combination for success: 46-14-13

  146. The Cat says:

    Really? Man thats nuts!

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  147. Ice Storm says:

    Can’t we be happy that both parties were able to come together with a common goal to get Carey signed? and ESPECIALLY happy that we didn’t have to match some kind of hair-brained RFA offer for him?!?I’m sure it was talked about /considered in some GM’s war-room sometime this summer…  oh to be a fly on the wall for a year in a GM’s office…  have always thought that would make for a great “reality” show some ten years removed (to save face for the parties named in potential trades, signings, etc.)

    Combination for success: 46-14-13

  148. Ground Chuck says:

    Actually, he was less-than-stellar down the stretch. There was even a huge debate on which goalie should have started game one of the first round.

  149. fbkj says:

    plekanec

    ps: the 5 year rebuild quote is so fox news

  150. OneTimer says:

    Yeah he was a champ, but Carey’s our boy now. Go Habs!!

  151. Ian Cobb says:

    He played great for us and himself, just look at the contract he got from St Louis. Good for him but he was not in our long term plans like Cary was from the day he was drafted.

  152. OneTimer says:

    Haaaaahahahahahahahahahahah.

     

    ….Leafs. Dude, that’s good.

  153. GrimJim says:

    If the Habs had some scoring during that series, being spankified would have been less important…

    but then did they not score because they were being spankified or were they being spankified because they weren’t scoring…

  154. WarHero says:

    Totally Agree :)

    ————————————————————————

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  155. Danno says:

    Nuttier than a fruitcake!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  156. Everlasting1 says:

    It was blown out of proportion..Allen Walsh never asked management to ‘play or trade’ him, and never demanded it or gave ultimatums. It was a twit. Grow up please.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  157. observer says:

    ” talented young man who clearly lost his way at last year’s All-Star break, but who hasn’t necessarily lost it altogether” ——————-correction – not LAST year’s all-star break but the season before and before the all-star game itself. and maybe just maybe he is not as talented as gainey/gauthier are so convinced he is. 20 wins out of his last 69 decisions in reg season and playoffs must mean something especially so when the goalie who replaced him when he did not play had a winning record an excellent one at that and bested him on about all stats too.

  158. MathMan says:

    Price’s problem has always been unrealistic expectations and people not understanding what actual goaltender performance looks like. Even people who ought to know better get fooled. For example, when Pat Hickey writes: “It’s a
    bargain if he can surpass the numbers he put up as a rookie.
    If Price were able to regularly put up .920 save percentage seasons, he’d be a shoo-in for the Hall-of-Fame and a regular in best-goalie-ever discussions. Here Hickey asks him to surpass those numbers.

    Clearly, Price is expected to be the best goalie in NHL history, else he is a bust. No pressure, Carey.

    Or this:

    “His record in
    that period has been 20-32-10 which means that he has lost more than
    twice as many games as he has won”

    Judging goaltenders by their team’s record is completely invalid, and this pernicious error ought to be so well-known that hockey journalists really ought to know better by now, and are really embarassing themselves when they do it. One does not even have to go into statistical explanations as to why this should be obvious: a goalie only controls one half of the equation of winning a game(goals against) and even that not completely (he may take more or fewer shots thanks to the rest of the team’s actions). Heck, even with baseball pitchers the concept of “run support” is well-established. It’s been well-documented that Price was one of the goalies let down most often by his team in the entire league, and they bailed him out of his bad starts at half the frequency they did Halak, too.

    When it comes to actual goaltending numbers, Price’s statistics are fine. Heck, if you compare him to other 23-year-old goalies he’s light-years ahead of most (Fleury and Ward, two goalies with significant NHL goaltending experience at 23, were light-years behind him).

     

  159. Ian Cobb says:

    I grew up in the Habs dressing room sonny!

    At least you know what a TWIT is.!!

  160. adam76 says:

    For all the fans who feel that Price will preform to potential this season, please take a couple of seconds to answer the questions below.  I’m not trying to troll, I seriously want to understand how so many fans have total and complete confidence in his abilities.

    Why do you believe Price will be successful?  How do you simply ignore his statistics from the 2009 all star break to today?  Why are you so sure, a goalie who has lost two games for every single win will “without question or debate” bounce back and play to potential?


     


  161. observer says:

    smart ONLY if the 20-49 goalie out of his last 69 decisions drastically improves. when you shipped out a goalie who won almost 2 games for every loss last year and had way better stats.

  162. Everlasting1 says:

     Judging by the off-season moves it’s the only logical/reasonable explanation.

    ps. The money’s been made. Don’t tell anyone.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  163. observer says:

    20 wins and 49 losses out of his last 69 decisions since january 1, 2009 in reg season and playoffs. the only comparison you have to make is with the goalie who played behind the exact same tean when he sat. and that goalie had an excellent winning record and far better stats.

  164. fbkj says:

    okay so we keep halak

    lapierre is our second line center

     

    partayyyy

  165. observer says:

    not sign darche for a half million and raise un-neededly pouliot another half million and they could have paid halak $3.75 million and traded price for at least as much as they got for halak.

  166. habsfreak13 says:

    With about $2m in cap space, I think we should sign Marek Svatos to a $900k one year contract. I can see a line of Svatos-Plekanec-Cammalleri really shining. Then we can have Pouliot and Kostitsyn fighting it out to play with Gionta and Gomez. There would be no risk as it would be one year, and Mike Comrie just got $500k from the Pens, so I think we would be giving him a little more than he should be receiving at this point. What say you guys?

  167. fbkj says:

    of course its the only explanation if you take a sit back and look at the bigger picture

    i love halak, hes the man, but he was WAY more replacable than pleks

    ps: chliches ftw

  168. adam76 says:

    When his counterpart – with the EXACT same team in front of him, went 44 and 27?

  169. The Cat says:

    Thats true. Getting rid of Halak wasnt a business decision in th least.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  170. Jordio-oh says:

    I did some research a few months back by going through each of the games Price played last season and found out that, on average, he was receiving a half goal less per game support than halak. If i remember correctly, the habs were scoring 2.35 goals per game when he would start. In order for him to win games he therefore needs to have a gaa of under 2.35 (shootouts not withstanding). Last season only 8 goalies in the league had gaa’s under 2.35. Its alot easier to win games when your team is scoring 2.85 goals per game, instead of 2.35. I’d love to take an hour and go through and verify, but I’m afraid this post will have become buried by that time.

    Having said all that, I agree with the sentiments already expressed that Price needs to show his worth this season. Regardless of goal support, his 2.77 from last year will not cut it.

  171. Storm Man says:

    It is very sad how the press here in Montreal does not talk about Mario Lemieux getting the order of Canada today. He was one of the best players to come out of Quebec and top 5 all-time  players who played in the NHL. I guess it is better to crap on a 23 year old and say he is getting to much money. How very lame. 

     

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  172. GrimJim says:

    That’s unfair to slander adam or anyone like this

    And Adam’s posts are more unidimensional, self-referential and for the most part unadaptable. Signs of drunkeness are more incoherence and belligerence which puts me more in mind of some other posters

  173. SeriousFan09 says:

    Most of his best play in 2009-10 was wasted. Anemic goal support when his best play (November) went on cost the team a half-dozen points or more, six straight losses in October when the team posted 9 goals in those 6 games. Price’s best play last season went to waste, Halak’s best play coincided with the return of Markov and a ramp-up in production. 

    He has the ability and I like to watch talent in action, given the opportunity he can succeed. All goes down to him but I’ve seen enough of his great games to dismiss his ability to step in and win games as needed.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  174. observer says:

    too late now but if price stumbles and habs are spinning their wheels this is not over. if he cant suddenly become what they hoped of him from the start, this entire period from draft day in 2005 to the day he is traded away will be known mainly for price and the obsession the 2 gms had for him.

  175. fbkj says:

    its easy to do the math in hindsight BUT at the time they had plekanec looming

  176. keepthefaith says:

    If you had watched ANY or all the Habs games last year, it was obvious , for whatever reason, that the team played better and scored more goal s in the games Jaro started.

     

  177. fbkj says:

    ???

    you are comfortable with lapps as our second center?

  178. The Cat says:

    And who knows maybe Halak didnt want to stay either. After the way the organization treated him at times, I cant blame him…I wouldnt blame Price for wanting to leave too lol

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  179. Storm Man says:

    I see it is happy hour for you again.

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  180. fbkj says:

    i have no argument lol

  181. derfab says:

    I think most of us are so relieved that this didn’t get ugly, that we will overlook (i.e. forgive) the fact that Price got a better deal than predicted.

    Good thing he wasn’t holding out for 3 million.

  182. MathMan says:

    Let me try:

    Why do you believe Price will be successful?

    Because he has been and has the talent to be as well. Becasue he’s well ahead of where most goalies are at 23. He’s at about the level Halak was, too, except that he has extra experience, to the tune of over 100 more games.

    How do you
    simply ignore his statistics from the 2009 all star break to today?
     

    I don’t. It just turns out that they are, compared to the real performance of NHL goalies, actually pretty good, especially this year, and especially starting from around December this year. People have a screwy understanding of what goalie statistics are supposed to be like (especially, comitting the cardinal sin of projecting the team’s record onto the goalie). In this, I could turn the question around and ask why you’re ignoring his stats from December 2010 to today.

    That Halak outplayed Price is not in question — what people fail to understand is that did not happen because Price was bad, mediocre, or even average, it happened because Halak was insanely good. And, I might add, unsustainably good. He’s not going to be a .924 career goalie any more than Price was going to be a .920 career goalie at the end of his rookie season.

    Why are you so sure, a goalie who has lost two games for every single
    win will “without question or debate” bounce back and play to potential?

    Losing two games for every one win is a team problem. Not a goalie problem. The Habs, last year, were a pretty terrible team, and Price one of the least well-supported goalies in the league. If they’re going to play that way next year, then it’s likely they will lose more than they win. And they would with a different goaltender than Price.

    My biggest worry for 2010-2011 is that Price will excel, manage to drag a crappy team out of the lottery, and then be blamed for singlehandedly preventing his team from making the playoffs.

  183. CDH says:

    Totally agree. It was always a different team infront of Price.

  184. Everlasting1 says:

    And who’s to say we couldn’t get Jaro to sign for a bit less, $3-3.5mil/yr? We’ll never know as there were no talks.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  185. MathMan says:

    His save percentage would’ve cut it, except that the Habs are not just an awful offensive team, they’re an awful defensive team, too. If they don’t score and let their goalie be shelled, there’s only so much a goalie can do.

    GAA is just a combination of save percentage and how well his team prevents shots, after all. Put Price behind Chicago’s defense and he ends up with Niemi’s GAA.

  186. SeriousFan09 says:

    To me there was Mario Lemieux, then there was everyone else. No one has or ever will likely match his abilities. The best the NHL ever saw, he and his fans were robbed of seeing  more of his magnificent talent by his troublesome health issues.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  187. TornApart says:

    How do you know that he won’t?

  188. Everlasting1 says:

    I know what it AIN’T. Contract talks. And not to be taken seriously by PROFESSIONALS. I use that term loosely.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  189. MathMan says:

    When Habs Eyes on the Prize did their goalie comparison in December, they found that most of the difference in goal support between the two came on the power play.

    They clicked over 40% with Halak in goal and less than 5% with Price. On the power play. This, despite the fact that Carey had the much better stats at stopping shorthanded shots (not that it means much given how rare such shots are, but still!).

     

  190. ZepFan2 says:

    Blown out of proportion?

    You mean like the Carey Price will strike twitter? 

    ————————————————————————

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  191. habsfreak13 says:

    Agree 100%.

  192. pic1983 says:

    It would be an interesting depth move, but I think we should give a chance to our internal players before taking svatos IMO.  If pouliot or Ak46 were to stumble out of the gate, and svatos was still available in mid to late november (unlikely as im sure he will go to europe if he remains unsigned by then), maybe I would say lets go for it, but to sign him right now I dont think is the best move. 

    Our top 6 is set as it stands right now.  Our third line would maybe work, but laps and moen will be on the third, and eller and paccioretty should certainly get a look before we go outside the organization.  Cant really see svatos on the 4th.   I just dont see how he would fit at this point. 

  193. Ground Chuck says:

    Alan Walsh? Is that you?

  194. derfab says:

    Really! I had no idea Mario was getting it. Quebec nationalism and its media vanguard usually preclude any decent treatment of such “federalist” awards, or of the honourable people proud to earn them. Too bad he was never a Hab.

  195. fbkj says:

    heh and that didnt even come from his agent

  196. crabvader says:

    Penguins sign Comrie to 500k deal. Wow, huge decrease in pay.

    Still, no use for a guy like him on our team but probably a nice acquisition for the Pens.

    I guess he needs Hilary Duff to be his sugar mama now. :P

  197. JD_ says:

    Can of worms opened.

    Bobby Orr, hands down, then Mario Lemieux. Always felt the latter had the goods on Gretzky, just not the stayin’ power.

  198. forskis says:

    If it had gotten ugly, Price would have been traded in my opinion and my opinion only.  That would have been the last straw for many inside and outside the organization.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  199. Malreg says:

    His dad is worth voer $500 million, I’m sure he’ll be ok :P

  200. HFX-HabFan says:

    Robert L’s “Top 25 Habs Under 25″ list concludes today, the number one on the list is a guy that hasn’t been talked about too much lately:

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2010/9/3/1664624/habs-top-25-under-25-1-carey-price?ref=yahoo

  201. punkster says:

    1, I don’t believe. I hope. And to clarify further I would not believe even if we were talking about Brodeur, Roy, Dryden, Bower, Plante or Sawchuk.

    2. Goalie stats mean nothing by themselves. Look up the records of the 6 goalies I listed above then look at the teams they played with, both good and bad. None of them won anything on their own.

    3. See answer number 1.

     

    You can spin this all you want Adam and anyone can spin it right back at you.

    FREE TIMO!

  202. pic1983 says:

    -Hes won WJHC gold with MVP honors

    -Hes won the calder cup with MVP honors

    -He has the size and the skill-set

    -Hes only just turning 23 (There are very few goalies who had as many NHL and starts as price at age 23)

    -He was brought into the biggest pressure cooker of a hockey market at 20 years old.  Given a 7 figure salary, thrust into instant superstardom, and had no mentor or support system put in place for him by the organization (he wasnt exactly living with Saku, Markov, Kovalev, etc like crosby living with lemieux, tavares with weight, malkin with gonchar etc…) So its not exactly a surprise that he spiralled a little out of control.

    -Watching his starter role disappear last year certainly taught him a few very valuable lessons

    -Hes older, and more experienced, and hopefully, more mature.

    -The team in front of him will have more cohesion after last years playoff run and will play better.

     

    He might let in a couple of softies here and there and cost us a win (even marty brodeur has cost NJ hockey games), but hell probably steal a few games also.  If the team in front of him plays the way they should, he wont have to be spectacular to win games, he’ll just have to be solid.  Its going to be team effort that determines our win/loss record this year. 

     

     

     

  203. crabvader says:

    Hmmm, what’s more embarrassing? Daddy’s boy or having the wife pay for everything?

  204. derfab says:

    As someone with a similar hip problem, I wish him the best. But (as the 500K would indicate) I’m afraid  that Comrie will probably never recover well enough to make any real impact.

  205. adam76 says:

    Logical and rational observations.  Markov is indeed a factor in the win loss discrepancies.

    I guess the reason I’m having such a hard believing in the kid, is the amount of weak goals (mental mistakes) he lets in.  (the video below shows examples)  Said goals deflates the bench and is in my opinion a huge factor in getting offence in gear.  This team played different in front of Price, as they were always worried about the soft shot from the blue line floating in. 

    Watch this video – these are not NHL caliber goals.  If said clips were from his first season, no problem.  They were taken from his third year in the league.  I see such a sharp regression in his play (not just the statl) and just can’t see how everyone is so confident he can turn it around.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3ow3x_OTc

     

  206. pic1983 says:

    I think if you put price on any defensively sound, puck-posession team last year, he would have easily been top 10 in goalie stats.

  207. adam76 says:

    I’m not trying to spin anything, I’m asking the question while defending my view/feelings.  I see such a sharp decline in Prices play – just trying to understand how the ‘die hards” can;t question the young mans ability to play well.

     

    “I don’t believe, I hope” – thats a great line.  

  208. pic1983 says:

    well if you were actually a habs fan, and actually watched 82 games last year, you would know the way the team played in front of price, for whatever reason, was totally different than the way they played in front of halak.  Also, I dont remember halak starting 71 games last season, how could he be 44-27?

  209. keepthefaith says:

    Oh, you see a sharp decline in Prices play do you?  And you are some sort of scout or judge on NHL talent.  You obviuosly dont watch games and only look at numbers.

  210. adam76 says:

    Sad you can’t debate hockey like a big boy.  Sad you have to toss ot weak grade school smack talk.

    I’m embarrassed for you 

  211. B says:

    They did both play with the same team in front of them, all season, first games and last ones.

    Price won his first two games of the season way back at the start in October.
    He then went on to loose his following 4 October starts
    Halak lost his first game way back at the start of the season in October.
    He then went on to win 5 of his following 6 October starts (including 4 in a row).

    Halak did not get a win in November. He lost his only start that month 1-0 to Calgary.
    Price had 11 starts in November and won 5 of them.

    That’s the first 26 games of the season for you with the same team in front of them. Price had 7 wins in 18 starts while Halak had 5 wins in 8 starts.

  212. G-Man says:

    December 2010 hasn’t happened yet. :)

  213. gloveside says:

    His family owns The Brick. I hardly think that he will be begging Hillary for cash anytime soon.

  214. adam76 says:

    Watched every single game – Price lets in more weak goals now then he did as a rookee.  My observations, plus statistics, show a netminder in decline – in my opinion of course.

     

     

  215. observer says:

    so did kim campbell that great prime minister – both these people love canada so much they live in the usa.

  216. derfab says:

    The short answer is that he had no more to do with those wins and losses than did 10 or 12 other players. He can play. The Habs will need to put pressure on opposing goalers to finish in the top 8.

  217. RGM says:

    Cool story about the Kelowna Minor Hockey Association honouring one of its brightest alumni: http://www.kelownarockets.com/hockey/news-display.php?public_id=2313&section_id=5

     —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  218. Chorske says:

    Generally agree with this analysis of what went right/wrong.

  219. fbkj says:

    he is the sole heir to the brick

    they signed a prenup and it wasnt at her request

    howard stern even ranted about how a hockey player is worth more than her

  220. observer says:

    he was receiving a half goal less per game support than halak——————–take any stat out of context you can bend it your way. #1- at the same time halak was allowing almost a half goal a game less and that would negate it. #2 – if score is 2-1 for habs with a minute left in game and they score 2 empty net goals like they did they didnt give him 4 goals it was a one goal gam that he won for them. eliminate all empty net goals scored by habs for both goalies first. #3 – not the average goal support because if habs scored 7 goals twicw for halak it throws the figures completely off. WHAT you do is compare the MEDIAN G0OALS scored for each goalie only then it might mean a little.

  221. keepthefaith says:

    I , too, watched every single game.  I did see a few softies from Price but did not see an overall decline in his game.  He had the worst luck, defensive play, and goal support all year. Statistics can lie.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

  222. Malreg says:

    I wouldn’t mind being either! lol

  223. observer says:

    agreed but what came first? the chicken or the egg? did they play better for halak because every time a soft goal price let in deflated them and with halak they had confidence which price himself had lost from them?

  224. Chorske says:

    I wonder whether you will be able to accept any repsonse that isn’t overtly critial of Price.

    I think he will be at the very least a perfectly adequate NHL-caliber goaltender, partly because of his past successes at the junior and AHL level, partly because he has had many awesome games as a Hab, and partly because folks who have forgotten more about hockey then I’ll ever know think the world of him (and I am not even talking about Gainey or Gauthier).

    I do not ignore his numbers since the All star game- I think they are indicative of a young kid going through his first slump and trying to deal with it, of a team trying to find its legs and too often letting its goalie down, of a kid rushing back too quickly from an injury. As for being SURE that Price will bounce back- I am not sure of anything- not of Price, or Pleks, or Cammy, or Gio. What I DO expect is that they arrive in Spetmber is good condition. That they care about winning, and work their asses off every shift, every game. That they learn from their mistakes, and improve with every game. That they work through good times and bad. That they honor the jersey.

    I liked Halak, he was a hard working little guy from the Old Country who got his chance and took it. But I am perfectly comfortable moving forward with Price.

  225. K-hab25 says:

    A perfect example of how Price’s season went last year were his two best months, NOV and DEC. He started 19 games in those 2 months, his record was 8-8-3. Or in Halakite terms 8-11. He had a 2.38 GAA with a .923 SV%. Conversly the messiahs two worst months, OCT and FEB, he was 8-4 with a 2.98 GAA and a .899 SV%. How can you and your buddies look at that and not see how huge a role goal support played for these two? To take the point further, in those 19 games Price got 43 goals of support, Halak in 12 got 37 goals of support. Or in simpler terms Price gave up 2.38 goals and the team scored 2.26 goals. Halak gave up 2.98 goals and the team scored 3.08 goals. Now a question for you and the followers of the messiah, if the goal support was switched, do you think the W-L records would’ve been different? That’s why I’m not concerned at all with Price being better this season. When the team does decide to score, chances are he’ll be in the game, plus he has shown he plays better as the main guy, not splitting starts.

  226. joeybarrie says:

    I don’t know. I think he has made about 12 million so far??? Probably a few endorsements… Not too bad on his own.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  227. showey47 says:

    Or like his apparent heavy drinking,drug use, and knocking up a 16 year old?

  228. Chorske says:

    My biggest worry for 2010-2011 is that Price will excel, manage to drag a crappy team out of the lottery, and then be blamed for singlehandedly preventing his team from making the playoffs.

    Jesus. Wanna trade lives?

  229. Natrous says:

    That link is hilarious. If you think that those goals were 100% Carey Price’s fault, you should start by saying that you don’t know much about hockey.

    Watch how often the defence gives up cross-ice passes or simply backs in without challenging the shooter – and then tell me why it was Price’s fault that the puck found its way to the back of the net.

    Of course, there are stinkers in there too, but honestly – if you don’t expect the odd mental error to come from a 22 year old in the pros, you expectations are a little high. If you look hard enough, you can find the same lowlights from stanley cup winner M-A Fleury at a similar age (good example, in the WJHC when he banked the puck off his own dman… good on him for not quitting like you’d have Price do).

    It’s obvious that logical and rational observations are not enough to sway your opinion of the guy, and that’s really too bad, because that’s what opinions are ideally based upon: logical and rational observations.

  230. observer says:

    a tough one of the toughest questions – which leaf is near the top of the best or greats of nhl hockey, i cant think of one?

  231. derfab says:

    Very good hands. Injury prone?

     I would rather have a tough, resilient guy as insurance in case one of our top 6 doesn’t work.

     Though with all the young guys coming to camp, maybe we don’t need one.

  232. TripleX says:

     

    Price is getting 2.5 in year one and 3 in year two.  I think he pretty much got what he wanted.  The fact this contract came right after the alleged holding out story makes me wonder what really went on.  Damage control?

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  233. derfab says:

    Frank Mahovolich was the best skater in the league for 10 years.

  234. Storm Man says:

    1. When did you become a big boy?

    2. the posts you put on here are some of the most rediclous things I have looked at in my life.

    3. You’re less-than -sophisticated and loudly ignorant on you’re posts about Price.

    4. Do you want some more?

    Adam I see you nothing more than a misfit. You’re a embarrassment to this site.

     

     

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  235. derfab says:

    PK will shine and take the pressure off him.

  236. saskhabfan says:

    Oh no,not the who was better over the last 69 games arguement. This number alone dictates who will have a better career over the next 10 years for sure,lmao. God i wish you would realize how absolutely stupid you sound. You take a 69 game section over the career of both goalies to make your arguement who will have the better career? really? Easily the dumbest post of the day.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  237. pic1983 says:

    Decline is a word that should not be associated with any 23 year old former first round pick.  THats ridiculous.

     

    Also I watched 82 games.  Price would let maximum 1 soft goal per game, and than be solid the rest of the way.  Unfortunately, after the softie, the team packed it in and would never go out and win one for him.

  238. saskhabfan says:

    Then why were only 4 teams interested in halak and none would offer an established young roster player? Cause everybody knows halak will never repeat his playoff performance.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  239. pic1983 says:

    The worst luck!

    It seemed like everytime spacek and hamr would slide to block a pass they would slide right into Carey, and the puck would go in! I remember at one point last season i was screaming for spacek and hamr to stop sliding cause they were causing more harm than good!

  240. PeterD says:

    Good compilation of Price…a couple of observations;

    How much better could he be with a solid defence in front of him every game…the Habs of last seasons play-offs played a smothering D that really helped Jaro…if they bring that type of smothering D and some protection around the net they will really give Price a chance to excel.

    The video showed far to many crease crashes by not only opposition teams but also our own players running into Price on the plays.

    Go Habs Go…bring on camp and the season.

  241. adam76 says:

    You are really bring a lot of intellectual thought and discussion to this conversation.  Thank you very much  for your contribution.

  242. pic1983 says:

    Well im sorry, but if the team packed it in after one softie, what does that say about them as a team?! They clearly dont care about winning if thats the case.  Sometimes, when your goalie is in a rut, you have to go out, hunker down, score some goals, and win a few games for him to help him get out of the rut.

     

  243. puck face says:

    the cap hit is not bad, you are all crazy.

  244. GrimJim says:

    Amen, bro,

    and with a little more goal support than he got last year, the pressure will be less again…

  245. Tag says:

    Daren Dregger of TSN reports that Kovalchuck deal approved, amendments to the CBA approved by NHLPA:

    http://twitter.com/darrendreger

     

    RDS

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/305608.html

     

     

  246. MathMan says:

    I did mean in the context of the Habs.

    Not, you know, my biggest worry in life. ;)

  247. SeriousFan09 says:

    *PG reads this, angrily tears up 35-year Subban contract extension*

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  248. MathMan says:

    Very possible, but I was really drawing attention to the fact that their save percentages were equivalent.

  249. GrimJim says:

    I understand your scepticism but Johanssen stated otherwise to Marinaro(Sp?). Ultimately we’ll never know and to me, unless you’re looking for reasons to support a negative assumption, it doesn’t really matter what the final tipping point was. Was damage control the tipping point? maybe.. Was there a realiization that the Habs weren’t going to move any further? maybe? Were the numbers exactly what Johansen/Price wanted/expected? maybe Were the numbers within Johansen’s/Price’s range of expectations and they decided to accept? maybe. In the end, it got done, it got done two weeks before training camp and both parties appear to be satisfied.

  250. LA Loyalist says:

    I was intending a cutting remark. Sorry. If you have to explain a joke, it probably didn’t work. And this is a tough crowd, very stressed with no hockey. :)

    thanks for playing.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  251. adam76 says:

    Some really good points made by both side.  I agree with most, however – LUCK is how losers define defeat.  I simply can;t believe a seasons worth of work comes down to “bad luck”.

  252. avatar_58 says:

    Or you know, a BS rumour. Which is what it was

  253. adam76 says:

    Price will be starting his 4th full NHL season. 

    That one soft goal is the difference between a win and a loss.  So you agree, the team did not pay well in front of him (or for him).  Why do you think that is?

  254. andrewberkshire says:

    And as everyone expected, here comes TripX with his conspiracy theorist tripe.

  255. Tag says:

    As was Pierre Boivin…

  256. andrewberkshire says:

    Are you serious, Adam? Like honestly, do you believe that link somehow proves your point? Shootout goals by Datsyuk and Zetterberg and a bunch of clips of defensemen knocking the puck into the net after Price makes a save actually accounts for mental mistakes? Are you *&^%ing serious? This actually might take the cake as the absolute dumbest link I’ve ever clicked that was supposed to prove a point.

  257. adam76 says:

    I disagree.  Those soft floaters from the blue line with no screen or traffic in front were an embarassment and simply not NHL caliber goals.  

     

    Sure the kid is 23, but he will be entering his forth full NHL season.  He was by no means a rookee last year, however – he seems to get the benfets of a first year netminder.

     

    I want Price to excel – but his play has been on the decline from Jan 2009 on.  My goal was to not have folks convince me into thinking this guy is a winner, but to see why people are so sure (to a lever where there is no question or debate) that Price can get his head into the game and become a star.

  258. adam76 says:

    It says to me,  the were gripping their sticks too tight, worrying to much about D as a way to help out the goaltender.

  259. LA Loyalist says:

    Mario didn’t want to be a Hab.

    LeCavalier didn’t want to be a Hab.

    Sidney Crosby DID want to be a Hab and followed Kirk Muller as a kid.

    Life is weird sometimes.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  260. mike g says:

    Damn…

    I was hoping he’d go home to Russia

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  261. LA Loyalist says:

    The Big M was absolutely a beautiful skater. And the Leaf fans (I saw him often when I was a kid) would boo him because they thought he wasn’t trying. 

    Life is weird sometimes.

     

  262. adam76 says:

    I am so sick of being labeled not a fan because I questions prices ability to preform next season.

  263. adam76 says:

    You are nothing more then a post stalker – replying to my every post with your HIlarious one liners.  You sould really be doing stand up, your comedy is gold.

    See – an adult can agree or disagree with someones hockey take without using personal insults, or calling someone an alcoholic.  Really sad you cant grasp that simple concept.

    I’m gone reacting to you.  Keep searching this board for my usename and please keep bringing “the funny”.  

    You really are my biggest fan – thanks so much for your support.

  264. keepthefaith says:

    I dont think you can attribute the whole season as bad luck.  But you cant deny that Price had ZERO puck luck last year.  Take it from an unlucky person.  A couple of unlucky things happen, it gets in your head and bad things start to develop.  Im not sure if this is what happened to Price or not .  But if you watch Jaro in the playoffs, some (alot) of the saves he made were with pads flat on the ice and shooters hitting the top part of his pads.  He was lucky, as were we, to make it out of Game 7 , round 1.  I think you just have to give the kid a chance.  He has two years max here if he sucks so what have ya got to lose?

  265. LA Loyalist says:

    The answer is only inside Price’s head.

    Halak handed him his ass on a plate. Is he competitive enough inside to want to prove himself?

    He’s 23 now and has been through the fire, but his bosses still have confidence in him. Is he mature enough to focus and put hockey first?

    He needs to win the team’s confidence. He needs to be on the ice first and off last. He needs to show commitment.

    Price’s issues are all software issues. The answer is for the moment unknowable, but we will know soon enough as time is inexorable and the Leafs and everyone else will be ready.

    20 games and we’ll know. That’s not a short leash, it’s enough time to see where his head is at.

    500 – 600 shots, in dog years. 

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  266. SeriousFan09 says:

    I was hoping Mike Richards would stop wearing hard-cap shoulder, elbow pads and avoid targeting people’s heads.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  267. Say Ash says:

    I hope we don’t see that defence in front of him, though. Some of those clips were rough.

  268. LA Loyalist says:

    and you don’t find that significant? a team has to have confidence in the goalie and it’s the goalie’s job to inspire such confidence. It really is that simple. Price has to earn the team’s respect this year. 

    it’s like the hokey-pokey – that’s what it’s all about.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  269. LA Loyalist says:

    As in life, we EARN our luck. Halak was in freakin’ position, dude. That’s goalie luck. that and good eyes and reflexes.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  270. JD_ says:

    Wow.

    If the NHLPA has agreed to the terms the league tabled – i.e., contract years after age 40 aren’t included in the averaging and a higher weight is placed on the top 5-6 (cannot recall) earning years for any contract over 5 years – then Kovalchuk’s king of the castle. His contract will never be topped as it benefits both him and the team.

    Again, if this is accurate, hockey fans should be somewhat thankful that a big negotiatin’ hurdle will have been overcome ahead of the next CBA negotiations.

    Really didn’t think it would be this straightforward. I’m goin’ to have to wait to see it before I believe it.

    Shucks, Donald Fehr and Gary Bettman potentially have one less thing to bitch about and I snag a ticket to catch Louis CK at the Metropolis on Oct. 21st.

    It’s clearly only a matter of time before Darcy Tucker gets his Order of Canada.

  271. LA Loyalist says:

    Boy, that’s a relief, I was scared I missed something.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  272. avatar_58 says:

    Crosby could be a hab – mind you it would be many years from now and at a paycut. Methinks he won’t accept ;)

  273. LA Loyalist says:

    Hey, no handing out the dumbest link award without a long and obsessive discussion, preferably involving beer.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  274. fbkj says:

    do you honestly think the team doesnt respect him???

  275. Chorske says:

    My goal was to not have folks convince me into thinking this guy is a winner, but to see why people are so sure (to a lever where there is no question or debate) that Price can get his head into the game and become a star.

    So what you’re saying is that you are unwilling to question your own belief? That no amount of debate will convince you? Does this not strike you as hypocritical, given that you accuse Price supporters of doing the same thing?

  276. Chorske says:

    Ya, seriously. MY vote goes to that guy who kept reposting that annoying Chris Lee rant.

  277. GrimJim says:

    I’ll add two supporting points to the other arguments being made. First if you look at Price’s overall career record you’ll see that in 2005-06 his stats with Tri-City dipped in a very similar manner to his Mtl stats in 2008-2009 but in 2006-07 they rebounded. I believe (and belief is a personal opinion, Adam, not a gaurantee) that he will rebound because he has faced this before and rebounded then. Second if you look at the career records of BobbiLou, Brodeur and Kiprusof (for example) you’ll see each of them did very well in their first full season (more than 20 games played) then in their scond season their save % and GAA worsened, then in their third season and beyond they improved from the dip (Kipper’s stats are a little skewed because Calgary team got worse after Kip’s third season). My take on why that happens is I believe when a goalie first becomes the starter the opposing teams don’t really have a complete “book” on the player. Then as he heads into his second season, during the offseason the goalie coaches and video techs for the opposing teams focus on that player and comprise a more complete record of his weaknesses, tendancies, etc. Since opposing team’s are better prepared in the second season, the players know where to concentrate their efforts for best effect, hence the second season dip. Then it’s up to the goalie to respond. Price’s third NHL season svg % and GAA are , admittedly slightly, better than his second season stats. It’s his W-L record that is worse, and as K-HAb shows above that can be attributed to team play as much as Price’s play.

  278. Chorske says:

    OK, well that’s allright then. ;)

  279. nunacanadien says:

    One big pylon among a whole bunch of shrimp pylons mind you….

  280. LA Loyalist says:

    Goalies LOVE pressure, the good ones. Of course there are exceptions, the story is that Glenn Hall used to throw up before games.

    How do you even become a goalie if you don’t love the pressure? 

    It all comes down to Price’s software. That’s why we’ll know pretty quickly if he’s matured enough.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  281. fbkj says:

    “I question prices ability to preform next season”

     

    is THAT what you call it?

  282. Jordio-oh says:

    you want me to take the median from 39 starts? If I want to totally eliminate any specificity or precisness, yes i will try and find the medium through that many starts.

    If the habs score 7 goals for halak two games in a row (which they did not) and Price lets in 6 goals three games in a row (also did not happen) it plays the same role.

    My point remains the same: Price’s wins and losses record has a direct correlation with the goal support he recieved, as has been mentioned before. It has nothing to do with halak.

    After all of that, I feel like I’ve wasted 5 minutes because i’m explaining this to you, Tony’s 8th persona. I guess you got me there….

  283. MathMan says:

    Doh! I meant 2009.

  284. LA Loyalist says:

    Not sure that respect is the right word.  I think they respect him.

    But the same team in front of two goalies played better in front of one than the other.

    The sample size (# of games) is big enough to be statistically valid.

    How else can you explain the discrepancy in performance?

    This is the NHL. Everyone has a very high level of skill and professional commitment (one would think). It’s the soft skills that tell the tale, leadership, chemistry, calm under duress. You need to have confidence in the goalie and last year they had more confidence in Halak and thus played better in front of him.

    Thus Price has to win them over this year. I think he can do it, but the pressure is on him.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  285. MathMan says:

    On the power play?

    In December it was >40% for Halak and <5% for Price. Seriously, most of the difference in goal support came from there.

  286. Brocas Brain says:

    I wonder were Halak would been now if he had played the first 30 games of the year with the team Price had in front of him with no system in place, all new forward linesmate and no markov or pk on defense the team that played 90% of the game in their own end and were lucky to get 10 shots per game.

     

     

  287. CP31 says:

    For those that are complaining about CP’s new deal and how much money we’re “throwing” away at this kid…………..PLEASE READ!! I read this article via Twitter (HabsNews) and they really put things into perspective especially the omparison’s made between CP and other goalies.

     

    http://m.topix.com/nhl/montreal-canadiens/2010/09/prices-new-deal-and-another-reason-why-habs-fans-are-dummies

    IN CP I TRUST!!!!

  288. fbkj says:

    but thats completely subjective to how a viewer and a fan interprets, by proxy, the machinations of a team, for instance i could easilly say “well they played less defensively sound in front of price because they were confident he could handle it without as much support, whearas they felt halak was weaker therefore they were prone to save his ass more because they werent sold on his skills”

    but that would be a stupid thing to blurt out, because im not in that dressing room

  289. avatar_58 says:

    Who gives a fart what they pay him? It’s not our money. As was said a million times the roster is SET. That 2 mil will sit there in case “something happens” to a key player.

  290. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Mario didn’t want to be a Penguin either!

  291. Storm Man says:

    Adam you’re the only sad one here. You’re a bold face lier, That is the only fact in your last point you got right ‘ I’m gone”. I feel bad that your an alcoholic maybe seek some help. I wish you all the best with your problem.

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  292. HabFarmer says:

    I figured as much.  It’s just no one else seemed to notice, and I’m not sure whether the fact that no one seemed to notice means something or not…… .

     

    “A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?”

  293. Malreg says:

    I sometimes wonder how much things would be different if we had played the flyers in the 1st round instead of Washington.  We would have lost in 6, Halak wouldn’t be the greatest thing in Montreal since Chez-Paré opened, and there wouldn’t be as much of a Halak love-fest on here.

  294. zak says:

    My vote goes to Josh Gorges for captain. He captained the Kelowna Rockets to a memroial cup and he wasn’t even drafted by a junior team. This guy works hard for everything.

  295. fbkj says:

    this guy could blog more though, check his last 2 entries :P

    edit: nvmnd i just reacted to the headlines in “related”

  296. avatar_58 says:

    Pardon me but I enjoyed our playoff run regardless of who played in net.

  297. joeybarrie says:

    It’s a valid point. We played like crap in the first 30-40 games of this season. His stats wouldn’t be as high and his win loss would not be as great. HOWEVER, regardless how we played in the beginning…. HALAK played great in the end and the playoffs. He deserves the 3.75 million he has and I am glad he will be a starting goalie.

    I love Price and am glad he is our goalie. It is unfortunate he was IMO caught in this issue of crappy D. He did not handle it as well as Halak, and i feel he thought he could save the team. When it didn’t work, it got progressively worse, and frustrations were at a high. The current leaders on our team were fairly new and were not at the level they are now in the dressing room. I think the players felt Price should be stealing games, and he wasn’t.

    Halak has always handled himself well in these situations. But in the end i believe Price to be a better goalie. I think he will show it this season and in the seasons to come. I don’t know of many goalies his age who have come and dominated to the extent we WANT him to. You simply cannot MAKE it happen.

    Having him learn these things at an early age is not a bad thing either. IMO he would be wasting his time in the AHL. He is clearly NHL material, and has proven it even with his BAD season, he is still in the middle of the pack, and his lifetime numbers are among the leagues top starters.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  298. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    If the money doesn’t come from the fans who exactly does it come from?

  299. fbkj says:

    internet money?

  300. mike g says:

    Beer.

    Molson Beer.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  301. RH says:

    Yeah, that’s all fine and good but, does Price get paid for stat. holidays?   ;))

  302. Jordio-oh says:

    television contracts.

  303. joeybarrie says:

    If we had of played the Flyers in round 1, it would have been a different story. Markov was playing, and we simply ran out of gas against them. We would have been playing some of the best hockey of our season. The difference is we simply did not have enough to make it thru 3-4 really really tough rounds.

    Philly has an easy time with NJ and had an easy end to the Boston series.

    We had done about all we could. We were missing our best player, and had been for most of the season. The whole injury issue took its toll with our older veterans who had to play minutes they shouldnt have. It would have been a HUGE difference.

    Not to start anything, but I think Halaks Hot streak had also ended and they knew they could score on him. They had 4 goals on 14 shots in the first game on him. Then 3 goals on 23 shots… It was only when he was doing well in the 3rd game did we beat them. We seemed to be lifted by his capability to save the puck. Which is dangerous, because when he slips the whole thing comes down like it did…

    But i place the blame on the defense. In the Pitts and Caps series the big games we were shutting down their offense and only letting them fairly easy shots. Even when Price came in vs the Flyers he didnt do much better. I truly believe our whole season last year was mostly based on our defensive play.

    We haven’t had any goalie problems in this city since we picked up Huet really. We have had strong goalies. Our problem have been elsewhere. Its a shame fairly few see this and add fuel to the fire…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  304. fbkj says:

    vanity centennial bricks + %200,000 markup on home depot products?

  305. mike g says:

    Wussup dudes…

    -Tickets (5 &10 game packs) go on sale today. I’mma try git me some. If any of you guys want tickets and I happen to get some, I’ll let you know which games I’ll sell to you guys. I’m thinking of only going to 2 or 3 games, so the rest will be up for grabs. (Don’t worry, I won’t charge an invisible service fee of 7$ per ticket)

    -And finally, the Iphone 4 is the craziest thing ever. I was never a Mac or Apple guy, but tabarnak it’s a good phone.

    Peace!

    Once again, reply to my post if you’re interested in extra pairs of tickets.

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  306. habstrinifan says:

    1: Kid? Yes it is time to stop calling him a kid. He is a young goalie but not a kid. It is wise he stops thinking of himself as a kid, if he still does. Forget wise, it is VITAL!

    2:PRICE? PG and Price’s agent got this one right I think. Price’s past two seasons may not justify the salary he signed for, and especially when compared to someone like Niemi…. which I do NOT think we should. When PG played his hand this summer, he irreversibly increased Price’s value. The salary is good enough to make Price completely satisfied and motivated to achieve his potential. It is also not outlandish enough to cause envy in the room. And it is very cap friendly and tradeable in case things dont work out.

     3: 3mil! Unless there are newer figures that I have not read, it is wrong to round up to 3Mil. It misleads. But the salary he’s being paid should buy us a “goalie with huge projected upside based on pedigree”, with enough “NHL experience to not be intimidated by the pressure of the position”, “who works hard and consistently in practice” and who “hones his mental approach to remain focussed and intense” during the games. If a goalie with Price’s “vaunted potential” approaches his task with the above attitude then the stats would speak for themselves. Either in actual WINS or save % or “soft goals not allowed”. If I had to pick a stat which I think a goalie must accept sole responsibility for is “soft goals allowed”. It is a hard and subjective stat but over the course of a season it bears itself out. As an example, Theodore allowed two soft goals in the CAPS series. He was not heard from ANYMORE. There can be a valid quantitative categorisation of ‘soft goals’.

    4:Easy Price’s mojo. You make your own mojo (luck). By practising hard and being ready. Price didnt and wasnt!

    5:If that goalie is simultaneously working his butt off to be ready for the start of the season, I would let him bungee jump. If he IS NOT (I hear he is but have seen no pics etc) then I wouldnt want him volunteering as a flagman for a city road works crew.

  307. BJT says:

    Have you ever been a goalie? I think not.

    I’d say being a goalie is 20% anticipation, 30% attitude, 50% skill.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  308. Habsman93 says:

    would love the extra pair if you were lucky enough to get a pack deal it would be great to take stepson to Montreal to see a hockey game.

    Can be reached at habsman55@sympatico.ca

    thanks

  309. redgorf says:

    In order for a player to improve you must instil confidence in him, you must let him play ,if after every loss you pull him you defeat the purpose. The only way is let play Cary Price needs the confidence from the staff.

  310. nfldanchor says:

    Price is now the lead goaltender of the Habs.Lets all support him and hope he reaches the potential we all know he is capable of. I loved Halak but Price is our goalie now and we have to support him . Great news that Markov is back skating already , can’t wait to see Markov and Subban on the pp . We have a great team if they stay healthy and we have added some youth with skill and that leads to success .

  311. WarHero says:

    You mean “doesn’t” right? lol Gionta could very well score more, we shall see :)

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  312. WarHero says:

    Thank you for the comments :) Glad you enjoyed it. I am working on the D-men as I type this, lol

    I fixed the math issue :)

    I was on the fence with both Gio (30 to 35) and Cammy (35 to 40) so I said, frig it, I’ll go the high side for both and pray for no injuries :)

    Keep your eye out for the D-men :)

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  313. WarHero says:

    The for the nice comments SD :) You are right of course, those are big if’s, but if things DO work out we will surely surprise a lot of teams. We could go from being the lowest scoring team to top 10, easily.

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  314. Bill J says:

    Never noticed this till I saw this clip on TSN.

    When Price flicked the Puck at the Caps…  He hit someone in the buttocks…  That player happens to be the brother of one of the guys the Habs picked up in the Jaro trade.  Schultz.

     


    Cammalleri for Team Captain!

  315. Sheldon says:

    Walsh’s job was to get his client (Halak) and himself paid. He achieved his objective so good on him. It’s time to move on folks and comtemplate the greatness which is Alex Auld.

  316. observer says:

    Re: Hickey above: “His record in that period has been 20-32-10 which means that he has lost more than twice as many games as he has won”—– #1 – the ot/so loser point was given to teams so as to make the final standings closer for more teams NOT for goalies #2- nhl itself on its boxscores lists the winning goalie AND the losing goalie #3 if a goalie wins in ot/so he gets a win – of course SO it only makes sense that the losing goalie gets the loss if he allows the ot/so winner #4 price also lost 4 playoff games in 2009 and 1 playoff game this year SO those totals are 20 wins 47 losses in his last 67 decisions since january 1, 2009.

  317. rocketsglare says:

    From his interview yesterday, Price seems to have the right attitude and frame of mind. Given enough

    support I believe this young man can and will have a successful season. He has never lacked for con-

    fidence and poise and given his supreme physical abilities has the tools to become a starter for many

    years, let alone a mega star. Price simply has to put it all together and given the time and space he

    will. He is that special.

    With his signing and may I add at fair market value, the team is set and ready to open training camp

    and I have a feeling that Price is going to impress.

     

  318. observer says:

     I believe this young man can and will have a successful season.———— why? you mean hope? all day long today i heard everyone say how chris leak has the right attitude highly skilled as he won the ncaa title with florida BUT no one mentions that he was never even drafted by the nfl where he tried out and was cut and now it is 4 years later and they still call him a young rookie qb though he’s been a pro for 4 years. they also dont mention that florida that year could have beaten several nfl teams and that sure he played for a great team in college but mark rypien, hostetler and trent dilfer as qbs played on super bowl winners and they were not good qbs. same way everyone wants to ignore that “young”: price is heading into his 4th nhl year just like it is 4 years after college leak is in now. and tonight leak looked terrible down 35-3 mostly because of his poor play, interceptions and a fumble. thats why 4 years after college he has yet to prove himself just like price has likewise not done at this level – his stats tell it all.

  319. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    We will see.

    Talk’s fine, but seeing’s what’s needed now.

  320. notbigbird says:

    Don’t you ever make yourself tired?

  321. WarHero says:

    Hey Folks, from time to time I write blogs on http://www.Hockeybuzz.com and
    have just completed another with my Habs point predictions for the
    Wingers for the upcoming season. Please feel free to give it a read and
    comment away.

    http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=10216&user_id=75112

    My article on the Centers can be found here:

    http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?user_id=75112&post_id=10164

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  322. SmartDog says:

    FIVE QUESTIONS… about our newly signed boy wonder:

    1. KID NO MORE? With over 100 NHL games and at 23 now, can we stop calling our millionaire goalie a kid?

    2. RIGHT PRICE? Did Gauthier overpay?  And if so, what would your maximum have been?  (And would you have the cahones to stand your ground even if it meant him becoming a hold-out?)

    3. WHAT SHOULD $3 MILLION BUY? If you had to put your finger on just ONE
    measure to decide whether Price is a fair 3 million dollar goalie for
    the coming year, what stat would that be?  And what’s a passing grade? 
    Would it be (for example) a save % in the top 10 in the leage?  A
    positive win-loss record?  What?

    4. WHOSE MOJO? Speaking of stats, Prices stats ARE great EXCEPT when you look at wins (mostly) last year. (Watching him play last year once I even shut the game off with 3 minutes left and a lead… couldn’t bear to watch him let in the heartbreaker (and he did).) Was the issue more his or the team in front of him?  Note I’m not assigning ‘blame’.  Everyone has a mojo funk, I’m just wondering whose mojo you think was more funked?

    5. THE HORSE WHISPERER.  Would you let your prize goalie ride in rodeos in the summer?  Would it be fair/smart/reasonable to stop him? (Don’t you wish Pricey just whispered to goal-posts instead of horses like Saint Patrick?)

    SD

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  323. joeybarrie says:

    My prediction is this. MANY said we overpaid for Pleks with his last contract… I’ll bet it was MANY of the same who were willing to sign him for 6-7 million…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  324. SmartDog says:

    Great little article.  A bit rosy but that’s to be expected I guess… ;) but it does make you wonder… if Eller brings what people say he can, if Pouliot and AK find their game and everyone else just stays on track with what they did last year, we’ll surprise a lot of people.

    Of course, those are significant ‘if’s.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  325. saskhabfan says:

    5) Only halak is allowed to ride horses in the summer without any kind of retribution. Apparently brian burke was up in a fighter jet today,i don’t think even the leaf fan base is stupid enough to bitch about that.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  326. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. I don’t consider the NHLers to stop being kids until their mid-20s are so, 3 seasons is still not much.

    2. I think it was a pretty fair deal, only Price’s performance can determine the true value of his contract over the next two years and maximum wouldn’t have really been much over what he got.

    3. 30+ wins on the season a GAA under 2.5 and a .915 or better save %.

    4. Team in front of him wasted his best work IMO, his own play was the real issue in the 2nd half of the season but the first half, so many nights of poor goal support meant he could at best, deliver them an OT loss point or a SO win.  October and November, I’m amazed the team had any points at all with Price the way they played. November with Markov and Gionta all the way through, team would’ve made the playoffs with a good 6-point cushion.

    5. Rather he didn’t, but goalies have such a weird headspace and attitude to the game that if it helps him unwind or relax a bit if he does some in the off-season, live with it.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  327. Chorske says:

    1. Yeah, we probably could. But how much responsibility did you have when you were 23? I think back to my life at 23 and I think, there’s no way I would have been able to handle the pressure this kid is facing. So yeah, he can still be a kid.

    2. It’s more that I would have offered (2 million max was my wish), but it’s not as bad as some were saying. I’m afeared for the raise the kid might earn in two years. I’m maybe also a little afeared he won’t earn it.

    3. Passing grade is just playing his game, his way, his style, and getting his mojo back- and not so much being the reason the team won as not being the reason they lost.

    4. Team in front of him. You could see the frenzy, the inability to maintain control in their own zone, the utter shite attempts at clearing the puck… none of which were Price’s fault.

    5. I’m not crazy about it at all, but what are you gonna do? Like another member posted: the most dangerous thing these guys do every day is drive. And you can’t exactly tell these guys not to drive, right?

  328. SmartDog says:

    I was thinking the same for #5.

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  329. Chorske says:

    What does this post even mean.

  330. BJT says:

    Good job man, I was waiting for this.

     

    Couple things: for AK, 30 + 35 doesn’t equal 60, lol. I would agree if it were 25 goals, not 30. And for Cammy, I dunno, just can’t see 40 goals as reasonable. I think if you lowered him and Gionta by 3, it would be good.

     

    Agree on everything else.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  331. SmartDog says:

    I think it means someone came home from the bar a little early. 

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  332. MathMan says:

    I strongly doubt Montreal is a good enough team that its starting goalie could end up with 30 wins and a GAA under 2.5, especially if his save percentage is .915.

  333. Da Hema says:

    It seems a little early in the evening for someone already to be pickled and incoherent.

    I’d put my money on meds impacting his/her posts.

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    “There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge….” — Hunter S. Thompson

    “Truculence.”
    — Brian P. Burke

  334. habaddict_andy says:

    Gionta once had 48 goals. 30 is just about right in hopes he does get injured.

  335. kordic says:

    Forget about this price thing for a minute or two, he will be a great goalie, i just don’t know if it will be in a habs uni or not.

     Taking a look at this compilation what i see is our BRUTAL D and guess who’s on the ice most of the time, 44!

    They should pay out Hammers contract and bring In a kid from the minors, Hammer Is done.

     

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  336. punkster says:

    1. Not yet. Exactly what is the age limit for “kids” these days? Once he demonstrates consistent signs of maturity, then add one more year, then and only then.

    2. Overpaid. My target was $1.5M (I know, unrealistically low).

    3. He plays 60+ games. Many here won’t like this answer as it is dependant on all his stats being good not just one.

    4. I can’t separate Price from the team. The Habs mojo sucked donkey gonads at times and Price carried an equal share of that burden.

    5. Or ride motorcycles? Or drive a farm implement? Or even drive a car? Come on, that whole rodeo thing is just a bunch of grannies on HI/O looking for something gossip about. God forbid he should go skiing or dive into a pool or cross on a red light. Sheesh.

    FREE TIMO!

  337. SeriousFan09 says:

    Only one way to find out, I think the impact of a solid bottom 6, improved transition game with P.K. Subban on the squad will improve our defensive end play quite a bit.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  338. HabFarmer says:

    Dude, your stream of conscious, run on sentences are strangely hypnotic, dream inducing.  I’m feeling my will to disagree with you slowly ebbing, my will to resist disappearing……… .

    “A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?”

  339. likehoy says:

    halak at fairview tomorrow, don’t forget to bring your stop signs!

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  340. mbplekfan says:

    Goaltending is 25% technique and 75% attitude.

    Giving a guy the responsibility to carry the load is key to his mental preparation.

    Obviously mgmt feels that Carey is mentally ready to be a top flight goalie.

    I look forward to seeing him and the rest of the young guns begin their prep year.

  341. pmaraw says:

    i think you’re thinking of 10% physical and 90% mental….

  342. The Cat says:

    lol

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  343. observer says:

    u know a lot of stars already are that after 4 years of pro and when they are 24 or 25 with that much pro experience in price’s case nhl experience – you stop referring to them as “young” especially in hockey where you see 19 year olds play. how many more years will price need to learn how to not allow soft goals as young as he he is? i know leak is what he is and he too will never get any better. we are not talking 1st or 2nd year pros.

  344. Chorske says:

    Bob Hartley predicts Price will be under enormous pressure.

    That Bob Hartley. What an insightful little bugger.

    I’m trying to decide if I am happy with Price saying he feels no pressure. Sometimes, feeling the heat can motivate an athlete, and Price has certainly demonstrated in the past that he can perform under extreme pressure. And there were times last season when I thought he was way too laconic and chillaxin’ after a so-so outing– I prefer it when athletes hate to lose, and I never get that sense from him (except when he chucked a couple of pucks at the Flyers). Of course, you don’t want your goalie to be a head case either, with every loss the end of the world as he knows it.

    Time will tell. In the meantime, I try to remain cautiously optimistic (sorry, CautiousOptimist).

  345. TomNickle says:

    Actually, he said that he puts more pressure on himself than the fans put on him.  My interpretation of that isn’t that he puts no pressure on himself.  Just my take though.

  346. JD_ says:

    Sun came up this morning, just as Bob predicted.

    I think it’s safe to presume Price feels like he’s bein’ squeezed in a vise, C. He has, however, nothin’ to gain by sayin’ he’s feelin’ the pressure. He very well knows that a comment like that would be twisted and spun, then twisted a bit more before it ends up on the cover of some rag, you know, assertin’ that Carey Price just can’t take it anymore.

    Think his head’s in a good place.

  347. Rugger says:

    I am still pissed that Price was penalized for that but Crosby can smash his stick beside Halak’s head, throw the broken shaft and not even get talked to by the ref.

  348. J.T. says:

    Don’t be fooled by rhetoric.  Price *saying* he feels no pressure is a long way from Price actually *feeling* no pressure.  He wouldn’t be human if he didn’t feel under the gun in this situation.  He’s coming in with people expecting him to have a stellar year, knowing that they’ll start booing and criticizing the moment he screws up.  He also knows Jaro Halak is now a god for some people, and they’ll ride Price unless he’s brilliant.  It can’t be easy, but what’s he going to say?  “Yeah, I feel a ton of pressure this year and I don’t know if I can handle it.  I’m kind of scared to take over without a guy like Jaro to back me up, and I’m worried about the fan reaction if I suck?”  Not likely.  I’m sure Price feels nervous and excited and scared and a whole bunch of other things right now, none of which will settle until he comes out and has a couple of really good games.  He’s just not going to admit to any of it.

     

    http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com

  349. HugeHabsFan says:

    Can anyone tell me if RDI is the same as RDS?  Do they carry all of the Habs games?

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

    Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.

  350. smiler2729 says:

    No, that’s a news channel. Reseau D’Information (RDI) is not Reseau Des Sports (RDS), but they should come with the same package if you’re in Ontario and subscribe to Rogers Cable.

  351. rocketsglare says:

    Gionta for captain.

  352. volcano62 says:

    sounds good to me !!

     

    Go Habs Go!

  353. SLONCOLD says:

    what’s your take on the contract tom?

  354. Jordio-oh says:

    who are you talking about?

  355. habsguy says:

    we could lose every game 1 – 0, get outshot 45 – 15 and I’m sure guys like G will blame Carey!!!

  356. Ian Cobb says:

    Yes!, but then you get to know who is fun to communicate with on here and ignore the trouble makers that do not realize that there are two sides to a piece of toast Shane.

  357. Ian Cobb says:

    Your right Chuck,

    but I don’t generally get into back and forth with people that do not understand the game. They just like to be contrary most of their life.

  358. SLONCOLD says:

    lol well lots of people blamed halak for philly series lol and we were shut out 3 times….

  359. Natrous says:

    Who?

    Why do people insist on living in the past??

  360. volcano62 says:

    please respect the last goalie that gave this team some dignity after sucking for over decade.

  361. SLONCOLD says:

    my point was people will always complain.

  362. Chorske says:

    That is what I choose to think as well.

    It also fits in with an interesting tidbit from the agent earlier this week, about how he suggested to Price that he do the rodeo thing to get his mind off hockey. Logically, that wouldn’t be necessary if all was roses and rainbows in Price’s head these days.

    You gotta feel for the kid, and I wish him the best- for all our sakes. Especially Boone. He’s over on his thread, calling us bastas.

  363. JD_ says:

    Seems the only guy with roses and rainbows in his head was Antti Niemi’s clueless agent, Bill Zito, when he wrecked his client’s relationship with the Hawks.

    Basta, indeed. Boone knows it won’t make any difference. He’s just lettin’ off steam. Pretty much as I did on a daily basis by sharin’ my view that Carey Price not havin’ yet signed was just about as important as Tony Danza’s new reality show.

    The pressure players feel today is very different from what went down before the microchip became cheap and ubiquitous. The only thing I remember from Dryden’s holdout was the BS story about him articlin’ for his law degree and the fact the OPC cards for Wayne Thomas and Michel Plasse had those crappy green edges.

    Were Dryden to try and pull the same thing today, he wouldn’t be able to pop open a can of Coke before bein’ accused of puttin’ his glove hand at risk and contributin’ to burgeonin’ diabetes, not to mention all the obvious other fallout.

    I say we all put our feet up, enjoy the most awesome team sport in the world, and let the kid play.

  364. HabFanSince72 says:

    Tony Danza has a new show?

  365. punkster says:

    Last line says it all. And from my lofty position as the Head Tool of the Rose Coloured Glasses Guild that is what I recommend to all my dues paying members.

    FREE TIMO!

  366. JD_ says:

    Is the beer extra?

  367. Chorske says:

    Amen, brothers.

  368. HugeHabsFan says:

    Thanks for the info!

    ………..

    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”

    I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

    Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.

  369. Chorske says:

    Crosby must have claimed that he was just working on his Tomáš Surový impression.

  370. adam76 says:

     

    That line of thinking that everyone needs to blindly support managements every move to be a ‘true” fan is total bullshit.

  371. SLONCOLD says:

    i think the point is to stop justifying his potential success with his success at the junior level

  372. K-hab25 says:

    Or his AHL success!!! Or his NHL success!!! I love how the people that think Halak is a proven goaltender and is worth 3.75, whine like school girls over Price getting 2.75. Only one of them has been the #1 from the start of a season and only one has an all-star start. It wasn’t Halak and it sure in the hell wasn’t Pogge. Oh and theres a big difference between winning wjc and winning while being the MVP, then a few months later winning the calder cup and again being the MVP, then being the youngest goalie to win 20 games in the NHL in over 20 years, all in the same year. You can list Pogges and Halaks career championships, MVP’s and records, but I don’t think you’ll need much room.

  373. adam76 says:

    How do you simply ignore his statistics from the 2009 all star break to today?  Please answer this simple and direct question.  Why are you so sure, a goalie who has lost two games for every single win, will “without question” bounce back and play to potential?

  374. Jordio-oh says:

    Why are you even going to be a Canadiens fan this year if you’re so certain our starting goalie will fail? How is the upcoming hockey season exciting or meaningful for you in anyway if you can’t be optimistic about Carey showing you something special? Its fair to be critical of players, but when the season hasn’t even started yet and you’re already dumping on a guy because of an obession you have with the 2009 all star break time line, you might as well not even watch and spare us your commentary.

  375. RetroMikey says:

    Gotta disagee with Hickey and Basu on their take on Price and agre with Durocher, we were way too generous giving money away at Price.

    I cannot believe Gauthier and Bobby as his advisor were throwing that much money on Price, an unproven NHL goalie. Ask Justin Pogge a proven champion in Junior Worlds who beat Price that 1 year as a starter and more experience than Price in the AHL and is unproven in the NHL.

    It’s going to bite us in the long term folks.  I would have signed Price  to a 3.0 Million contract for 2 years.

    All I gotta say is Plekanec and Price are under radar this season and better perform to the money the club is throwing at them.

    Or else they will hear it from the media and fans, I agree enormous pressure on the kid but I wish him well in his goals of making it to the NHL whether it be in MOntreal or another team.

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  376. Chorske says:

    Mikey, I’m assuming you meant on the radar, or perhaps under the microscope?

    Cos under the radar means that no one will notice them. And I think we all certainly hope both get noticed. :)

  377. volcano62 says:

    As much as i’m not a big fan of pleks and price i hope they do good for the club.

  378. pic1983 says:

    You make it sound like negotiating with an RFA is so simple, especially when your hands are tied behind your back. 

    “I would have signed price to a 3.0 million contract for 2 years”.  YOu say that like if you offered it that its a certainty that he would sign.  SO Mr. Armchair GM, what do you do when you make that offer and Carey laughs in your face?

     

  379. Mats Naslund says:

    How do you propose you would have signed him for 1.5M? Is there any goaltender as a comparable that you have used to decipher his value?

  380. Malreg says:

    Did you really just compare Carey Price to Justin Pogge, the kid that has a total of 7 NHL games experience, and spent time in the ECHL last year?

  381. J.T. says:

    Well, you might have *wanted* to sign Price for $3-million for 2 years, but he and his agent would probably still be sitting around waiting for you to get desperate and offer them what Gauthier did.  As for Plekanec, I think he’s got no intention of being under the radar this year:  http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=536668

     

     

    http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com

  382. notbigbird says:

    You do have just a tweentsy weentsy tendency to be negative … and frequently wrong.

  383. HabFanSince72 says:

    I would have signed Price  to a 3.0 Million contract for 2 years.

    Unfortunately you’re just some guy mouthing off on the internet, not the GM of an NHL club.

     

  384. JD_ says:

    Well, given it’s apparently open season on signin’ players to just about anythin’, I would have signed Price to the league minimum.

  385. JIMVINNY says:

    Not even the most delusional leafs fan would claim that Pogge is better than Price.  Way to blow any credibility you had right out of the water.

  386. SeriousFan09 says:

    Justin Pogge who hasn’t been able to break out of the AHL for more than a handful of NHL games despite being older and having that valuable AHL experience? Pogge’s a journeyman at best, the two are not really comparable especially when you match up career accomplishments, couldn’t even keep his no. 1 job in the WHL for two of his 4 seasons there.

    The contract only bites Montreal if Price doesn’t play well and he’s perfectly capable of doing that, even in the last year and a half we’ve seen flashes of his brilliance.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  387. forskis says:

    The amount is reasonable enough, in my opinion anyway.  But this is how I would differentiate Price vs. Pogge:  Price had his head on straight enough to make it to the NHL and stay there.  Pogge was not even the starter when the Marlies made their playoffs a few years back and the Leafs apparently had so little confidence in him that they kept bringing in other goalies who ended up ahead of him and eventually traded him for a draft pick to Anaheim where he is not even playing for their minor league affiliate.

    Like many on here say, it all starts in the head and Price, whether people like him or not, had his head on better than Pogge’s (he may have lost it in the past 18 months, but at least he is trying to get it back).

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  388. keepthefaith says:

    Obviously you wouldnt have signed him to a 2 year 3 million contract. cause he wouldnt have signed it..

  389. RetroMikey says:

    Yeah Chorske, thanks for the correction.

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  390. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Carey Price will get another contract offer for 15 years when these 2 years are done. That will make Carey Price age 40 years old.

    PK Subban will get the same offer.

    How much will they receive for those years?

    Go Habs Go

  391. WarHero says:

    Habs will never give a contract that long.

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  392. Sheldon says:

    The question now is when PG will nail down the services of Alex Auld long term? That must be addressed immediately!

  393. Propwash says:

    If Price plays remotely to the capability he posesses, the contract is a steal.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  394. JIMVINNY says:

    Oh yeah?  Well I would have signed him to a 2-way deal.  Waivers be damned.

  395. JD_ says:

    Outcheaped.

    Damn.

  396. 123456 says:

    why not a one week tryout contract??

    secret mod

  397. Storm Man says:

    Did he have any before that post?

     

     

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  398. volcano62 says:

    it’s called an opinion…why shit on the guy?

  399. JIMVINNY says:

    An opinion with no rational basis is not worthy of consideration.  If someone is going to state an opinion as ridiculous as that, they’re practically gagging for it.

     

  400. adam76 says:

    Its what he does – all opinions that don;t line up with his viewpoint, are “unreasonable and foolish”.

     

  401. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pogge’s accolades begin and end with the WJC, can’t say the same for Price. The two are not comparable netminders at all.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  402. forskis says:

    Well, to be fair, you anti-Price, Pro-Halak or whatever the label is post in a similar fashion, when someone posts something that you agree with or follows your same reasoning, you post with “I agree”, “”This guy is right and knows their hockey”, etc. type content…one of you lower down said “+1″…so you know, the door has been swinging both ways and not just the direction you disagree with.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  403. Storm Man says:

    This coming from the likes of you. Grow up.

    The main ingredient in stardom is the rest of the team.

  404. volcano62 says:

    That deal actually makes more sense than the one Price signed yesterday.

  405. volcano62 says:

    we don’t like the fact that our REAL goalie was traded and now were stuck with mr.underacheiver.

  406. Jordio-oh says:

    “After 3 years of being disappointed”

    So you’re saying you’ve been disappointed with him for his entire career? Even going 23-12-3 with a 2.56 and .920 sv% in his rookie year, you were disappointed?

    I’d hate to be your kid…….

  407. volcano62 says:

    Having a stretch with good numbers doesn’t justify 3 years of stinking up the rinks.

  408. habs 4 future says:

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  409. Jordio-oh says:

    The entire point of my post is to suggest that it wasn’t 3 years of poor play because his first year was quite good, as far as rookies go. That first year is part of a 3 year career, can you follow that?

    Its comforting to know that a large portion of the Price haters are barely literate. Whats wrong with you all?

  410. 123456 says:

    nice little film. i am left wondering….. defense improvement?? i say that in just of course!

    secret mod

  411. JD_ says:

    * Carey Price has signed™. In other news, go get ‘em, dude.

    * From Dave Stubbs’ piece with Price’s agent Gerry Johannson, “In recent days, word appeared on the Internet that had a ‘very, very reliable source’ telling a Montreal reporter who’s seldom around the team that Price was demanding $3 million per season or he’d walk out on the club.” Nice l’il jab at goofy tweeter Michel Godbout, the former CBC News: Montreal at Six news anchor who was also seldom around any TV screen.

    * Just came across this piece, “Report: NHLPA mulling over Fehr demands”. Seems that among other demands before he accepts the NHLPA offer, Donald Fehr is askin’ for “A salary of $1.5 million for the remainder of this year, and $3 million per year thereafter.” What the article fails to mention is that, in the 10th year of his contract, Fehr wants his salary cut to $550K per annum through to its termination in 2048, at which time he will be 100 years old.

    * Must be nice to be Mr. Lemieux. Addin’ yet another feather to his cap, Super Mario will be named an officer of the Order of Canada at a ceremony at Rideau Hall today. In related news, Antti Niemi’s agent Bill Zito is expected to be named an officer of the Order of Really, Really Dumb Moves, No, Seriously, What The F*** Were You Thinkin’? at a ceremony in his drug dealer’s trailer.

    * From the bleacherreport.com – think HI/O, but with really long posts and a lot more pretendin’ – comes this article, “Is Brian Burke Setting the Bar Too High for the Toronto Maple Leafs?” I hadn’t heard anythin’ about it. Did Burkie go around tellin’ everyone the Loafs were goin’ to finish last? Booya, baby! The author, a self-proclaimed “proud member of L[o]afs nation”, basically concedes the Loafs are hopeless.

    * Interestin’ item out of Kelowna, BC, where former Blue Jackets coach Ken Hitchcock actually helped stop a teenage shoplifter in his tracks. Swimwear store. *cough* Actually, it’s a pretty cool story. Don’t mess with the Hitch, kid.

  412. Jordio-oh says:

    lol @ Zito.

  413. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ken Hitchcock in a bathing suit doesn’t bear imagining.

     

  414. The Cat says:

    I guess the next big thing will be who is going to be captain.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  415. WarHero says:

    You got it Cat :) My vote goes to Gionta.

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  416. Ian Cobb says:

    No one will know until he skates out on the ice opening night wearing the C.

  417. Danno says:

    Could be Cammy. But I also like the three G’s… Gorges, Gionta or Gill.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  418. saskhabfan says:

    So in other words as godly as halak is and how he single handedly got us into the playoffs and won 2 rounds by himself. He isn’t good enough to put a team in the playoffs in the west. Odd since that is now where most of his games will be. Something that maybe blues management should have thought of.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  419. Fool of Chu says:

    Cool down, Halak played some great hockey here and now he’s gone. I mean, like, really good hockey. So he had a few bad games, in the playoffs, too, just like Cammy didn’t score in every single game. Leave history as it is: last season’s playoff run was exciting, and so too because of our goalie from last spring. Everything else is nonsense.

     

     

  420. Everlasting1 says:

    Jaro WAS an afterthought in Mtl and was treated as such. He got a lot of money cos he earned it. Btw, St.Louis finished with a better regular season record last year, so you’re in no position to brag.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  421. saskhabfan says:

    First of all i’m very,very cooled down and i agree this whole thing is nonsense. I find it just hilarious how hypocritical and double standard these guys are. How can halak be god in the east but not good enough to make the playoffs in the west? Its a valid question for which the guy would have no answer for. Which is why he won’t reply.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  422. saskhabfan says:

    How did the blues do in the playoffs?

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  423. Everlasting1 says:

    The Habs wouldn’t have made the playoffs in the west.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  424. saskhabfan says:

    How do you know? They didn’t play most of their games against the west. Your now saying they would have lost games they never played. Keep reaching.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  425. BJT says:

    You don’t know that. Would’ve been a 100% different schedule. Injuries different, scores different, everything different.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  426. Everlasting1 says:

    The comparison was solely on points. It took 91 points to make the playoffs in the west (seeding 8th). The Habs ended with 88.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  427. LA Loyalist says:

    you can neither win nor lose games unplayed, shots untaken, martinis unshaken, cakes not baken.

    huh? I have to stop reading this stuff.

     

    “no matter where you go, there you are.” Buckaroo Banzai

  428. fbkj says:

    well considering the benchmark is normally 93 you gotta let some shit slide

  429. adam76 says:
    NHL Stanley Cup Winner 10/11    
       PIT Penguins
    single bets only        
    6.00  
       WAS Capitals
    single bets only        
    6.00  
       CHI Blackhawks
    single bets only        
    7.50  
       DET Red Wings
    single bets only        
    11.00  
       PHI Flyers
    single bets only        
    11.00  
       VAN Canucks
    single bets only  
  430. HabFanSince72 says:

    So we’re either last of the teams with  any hope of winning it or first of the no-hopers.

  431. JD_ says:

    From Larry Brooks’ most recent update on the NHL and NHLPA comin’ to terms:

    “The most onerous proposed league restriction first reported late Wednesday by NYPost.com, the one in which cap charges of any contract of at least five years would be calculated by the average of the five highest salaried consecutive years, is off the table and not a part of the discussion.

    We’re told that instead, the league is seeking to recalibrate calculations on cap charges for contracts that extend beyond a season in which a player turns 40 and those contracts of five years or longer that extend past a season in which a player turns 35.”

    Ok. Now, that makes a whole lot more sense. Sometimes you do have to wait to see it to believe it.

    I could just not believe the NHLPA was goin’ to capitulate on the two demands that were rumoured to have been tabled by the NHL, in particular the one dealin’ with heavily weightin’ the five highest earnin’ years for contracts lastin’ longer than five years. It would have been effin’ crazy.

    Cuz once you agree to it, it’s in there and it never goes away, baby. That’s why CBA negotiations are so damn contentious. That’s why the NHL’s introduction of the cap last time-around sent the league packin’ for a year.

    Will be interested to see the details behind what the NHLPA actually conceded in order to get this put away.

    Common sense sorta prevailed this time, albeit at the edge of another abyss.

  432. WarHero says:

    Thx for the update JD :) Great post as always :)

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  433. observer says:

     once you agree to it, it’s in there and it never goes away  ————– not so. agreement only has 1 mo0re year after this. and this years signings of these kind are over so all the nhlpa let them have is what they asked for NEXT SEASON and probably no owners anyway would try to make such deals next year. after next year everything is negotiated again. just like is happening in the nfl if they ever do start negotiating in time. everything will be on the table.

  434. Chorske says:

    The league could always adopt a hardline strategy like last time, and impose a hard cap on contract term. Seems to me that the floating approach you describe makes a lot more sense. But sense never really played into this.

    Imagine if teams could buy cap credits- like carbon credits!- from teams that underspend?

  435. The Cat says:

    Yes same here, I think Gionta or maybe Gill…Some say he was the unofficial captain last year.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  436. WarHero says:

    You may be right. My only thing with Gill is that I can’t see the Habs re-signing him after this year so I’m not sure if they would give him the C for 1 year.

    Gionta however, is part of the core for the next 4 and who better then wo wear the C, the smallest guy in the league with then biggest heart. Definitely a guy I’d follow into battle :)

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  437. The Cat says:

    True. Gills contract is the only snafu in him being captain.

    Its a while that I been trying to work in the word snafu in a sentence :)

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  438. fbkj says:

    love gio, but man hes brutal in interviews

  439. WarHero says:

    If we are going by that, Cammy should be the captain :)

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  440. WarHero says:

    hahaha, glad I could help :)

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  441. fbkj says:

    totally :D

     

    but seriously i know hockey players say “Uhh” a lot

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0lJCXxw3c

     

    ^

    god DAYUM

  442. showey47 says:

    I could see gio for sure,gill not so much mainly due to his one year remaining on his contract and then will probably be gone as a ufa. I’m going to guess its between gio and gorges.

  443. SPATS says:

    We should all assume that the team will rally around Carey the way they did around Jaro. We have a lot more character in the room than we did a few years back and everybody knows their role now. Will we win a cup? I think we’re still a couple of pieces away but we will compete every night.

    OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  444. sholi2000.com says:

    That’s adam76

    They Call Me Shane

  445. observer says:

    habs were at 41 to 1 after the olympic break and i bet them and halak took them within 7 wins of cashing my small bet.

  446. adam76 says:

    As a betting man, Tampa Bay at 26 to 1 – could be a darkhorse with quite a nice ROI.

  447. The Cat says:

    Like a soap opera cliffhanger being revealed. *Dramatic organ*

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  448. DavidKB says:

    The way it should be.

  449. Chorske says:

    I totally agree that there is no way he can admit to feeling under the microscope this season- but at the same time, he’s been under that microscope since we drafted him. This kind of scrutiny should be nothing new to him by now. Perhaps that is why he projects such calm, win or lose- which I am misinterpreting as laconic, just-doesn’t-matter slackerism.

    Maybe the memory of an emotional, twitchy young Patrick Roy is still so fresh in my brain that I am having trouble accepting that a potential superstar goalie could be so gorram relaxed all the time. ;)

  450. J.T. says:

    That’s just it…I’m not buying the whole “relaxed” thing.  I think there’s a whole load of emotion churning under that laconic exterior, which we’ve seen when he breaks his stick or shoots a puck at celebrating opponents or punches a dressing-room wall after a loss.  I believe the emotion is there, but it needs to be channelled more productively.  I remember a quote from him in a TV piece during his draft year.  He talked about how competitive he is and how riled he gets about losing, but he said, “I keep it all inside because there’s no use giving the opponent something to use against you.”  Seems he’s still got that philosophy, at least most of the time. 

     

    http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com

  451. Chorske says:

    I hadn’t seen that earlier quote. Pretty interesting, and a neat insight into how his brain works.

  452. adam76 says:

    Isn;t my room cool? I love my mid 1980s habs clock.  

  453. notbigbird says:

    Bob Hartley predicts Price will be under enormous
    pressure.”

    Incredibly astute.

  454. W35T5ID3 says:

    …..nobody is sharper than bob hartley….nobody!

  455. The Cat says:

    I think Cammalleri has too much pizzazz to be captain…Need someone fairly neutral who wont rub anyone the wrong way.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  456. observer says:

    Question? When can Carey Price become a UFA?

  457. WarHero says:

    4 years from now

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  458. 23 HABS 23 says:

    I would really like to know how anyone would perform at their job if all of your co-wokers and / or superiors were standing over while you worked and were just waiting (maybe even wishing) for you to make the slightest error and just rain down boos and jeers – I am thinking your performance would be hindered greatly – Give Price the support he deserves and let him prove he can be the goalie this team needs!

    - Give the kid a chance – he is part of the team – we should treat him as such (IMHO)

    Looking forward to this season – hope we can build on last years performance!

     

    GO HABS GO! (Let’s go get that elusive 25th Stanley Cup!)

  459. sholi2000.com says:

    I predict that there will be a few members here missing the majority of the season.  Only to show up when the Canadiens lose.  Now that’s pathetic.

    This should be another fun filled season.  Can’t wait.

    They Call Me Shane

  460. G-Man says:

    I have that pressure every day. It’s just the nature of work. I don’t have 21K people boo me, but I don’t make $2mil + either. Price does not require fan support in order to play well. The 2 do not go hand in hand. However, playing well will get him the support at home pretty much automatically.

  461. habs 4 future says:

    HE HAD SUPPOST FOR # LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG YEARS!

    the kid can’t cut it! it’s wasted $$$$$ AGAIN! just like Gomer! just like PLEKS! just like POULIOT! JUST LIKE AK!

    when will this management learn????? stop resigning retreads and garbage!!!!

  462. sholi2000.com says:

    Two and a half weeks and we’ll be watching hockey!

    Two and a half weeks and I’ll be taking Matthew to the rink to start practice!

    Five more days until the kids are back in school.

    oh life is great.

    They Call Me Shane

  463. MTLForever says:

    We have to let him make mistakes or he will never learn, and that goes for everyone on the team. Saw guys benched for making one mistake on a really short shift, that’s not alright. I hope they get more chances to prove themselves and play. 

     

    Go PRICE Go, and the rest of the Habs, I hope that they play very well in front of him.

  464. adam76 says:

    I hope Price plays well behind them.

  465. G-Man says:

    After 3 years of being disappointed, I am not expecting his play to change. This is still the same goalie who is being rewarded for a funk that’s lasted since January of 2009. He plays well in spurts, then doesn’t for longer periods. If he can turn it around, the Habs may have more success than the 12th place finish that I believe awaits them.

  466. habs001 says:

    with markov out now but even when he comes back can we have a good pp when the second unit may have spacek,hammer and gorges playing point…indication from last year is that hammer,spacek and gorges on the pp point does not work. hopefully martin will be more flexible in trying a forward on the point but last year when the pp did not work with hammer and gorges he kept putting them out there and not trying a forward.  

  467. WarHero says:

    I think it will be:

    Markov/Spacek

    Subban/Hamrlik

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  468. geo_habsgo says:

    That is a really nice Price compilation. Shows how gritty and intense of a player he is when he is on his game. Nobody is overhyping when they talk about this guys potential because it is obviously there it just seems like he needs to make the decision to really buy into the team and dedicate himself to the club and being the best he can be. 

     

    In other news I am also pretty happy for Halak. He was never assured of playing when he was here despite his crazy work ethic but he is the main man in St. Louis now. What seems like a rough deal to us fans has probably done a lot personally for these goalies over the summer.

  469. habs001 says:

    this is what i was thinking also but he still should have a forward option at the point  just in case markov or pk miss games

  470. WarHero says:

    Of course, all kinds of players for that :)

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  471. rocketsglare says:

    Do you think that Carey Price’s roping could serve to improve the speed and strength of his glove

    hand? I am assuming that he ropes with the same hand he uses as his glove hand.

    What do you guys think.

     

  472. fbkj says:

    seriously who cares if the guy does stuff in the summer

  473. WarHero says:

    Hand/eye coordination if anything since he is riding a horse.

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  474. ZepFan2 says:

    Could be.

    Cammy thinks so…at the 52 second mark…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlRFJ8BdT-o

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  475. notbigbird says:

    Hmmm … I would assume that he holds his stick in his roping hand.

  476. derfab says:

    “Never in doubt”?!  Sure Patrick.

    Good goalie. Good deal. I am confident Price will be steady enough to let people focus on the team. If he has to be stellar, there is a bigger problem.

  477. gloveside says:

    Last year the Habs proved that they are not good enough to overcome bad goaltending. When Price, or moreso, Halak had a bad game, they lost. With the team they have right now, they are going to need stellar goaltending many nights, along with a buttload of blocked shots. They have shown that are just not dynamic enough to overcome a couple of bad goals on a regular basis.

    Arpon Basu said about the contract

    “For the Canadiens, should Price completely flop his contract is not an albatross and is only on the books for two years.”

    My worry is if he hasn’t established himself by Xmas, we have another year and a half of talking about why we not longer have any depth at the goaltending position. Of course in 18 months, BG/PG should be ready to annoint Robert Mayer as the new saviour and crushingly rush him into the spotlight.

  478. CP31 says:

    <—————-Does this picture not reflect the position CP is in, now more than ever?!?!?!?!?

    The spotlight is on and it’s time for CP’s coming out party this year and proving all those people who suffer from “haterism” wrong. But more importantly proving that Gainey was bang on when he called you a “throughbred”. I think a lot of Habs fans on this message board and everywhere, INCLUDING MYSELF, believe that this will be a huge bounce back year for CP…………….THE REAL CP!!

    On a side note, was this quote from Gainey not argueably one of the best in all sports interviews?!?!?!? LOL LOL…………….I still laugh out loud when I read this quote to this day. Fast forward to 5:20 and enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b02Dlrq6ovc

    “Well, he’s a thoroughbred, and maybe your wife doesn’t recognize that, but then again, I can’t bake bread all that well. We all have different skills”

     

  479. HFX-HabFan says:

    And from the department of stating the obvious that we all already knew, Bob Hartley takes it upon himself to “predict” that Price will be under enormous pressure.

    I am going to go out on a limb like Hartley and predict that the next couple of days will be bring more wind and rain than usual here in Halifax because of Hurricane Earl.

  480. ZepFan2 says:

    A little help for Ian…

    http://stayclassy.net/tag/alan-walsh/

    Mid December: In an interview, Halak says he’s a team player, likes Montreal, but wants to be a starting goalie – in Montreal or elsewhere.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  481. fbkj says:

    i dont really see anything wrong with this tweet, at least compared to some of his other douchechill inducing ones… and his awkward and uncomfortable overuse of “lol”

  482. WarHero says:

    It’s a fair question if you ask me :)

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  483. fbkj says:

    it reminds me of the republican party releasing pictures of john kerry windsurfing :D

    like honestly who effing cares

  484. WarHero says:

    The difference is, what Carey is doing will actally help him improve his game.

    Since when did surfing make you a good politician?

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  485. fbkj says:

    my point is is that many use his off season activities as some kind of gotcha moment from those who want to slander the kid for the sake of slandering…

  486. WarHero says:

    Good point :) Props!

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  487. GrimJim says:

    You learn how to stay upright in a strong wind. That’s a great political skill to have :-)

    or

    You learn how to tack and jive when the winds shift, that sounds like politics to me :-)

    Hey I just thought of this, why are all Nascar drivers politically liberal? Because they always turn to the Left…

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    food for thought – just wondering because of Price’s native
    heritage does he even has to pay taxes?…now that’s a huge bonus in it’s own
    right. That would make all Canadian teams more competitive and eliminates the
    lower taxes benefits from American teams in the future.

     

     

  489. fbkj says:

    thats IT well force the habs to live on the rez!

    BRILLIANT!

  490. The Cat says:

    That is a fair question, anyone here with an indian card? I know you can get free university with the card.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

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    Can you repeat that?

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  492. jkirk says:

    Assuming Price’s talk about earning it is sincere, I’m really looking forward to another great competition for the #1 spot in net this season. It’ll be very interesting to see what Auld does with such an exciting opportunity.

  493. ZepFan2 says:

    Which tweet are you referring to?

    This is for Ian and the play me or trade me tweet.

    Did you click the, in an interview link?

    “Canadiens backup goalie Jaroslav Halak has not denied to CKAC radio
    reports that he wants to play more, whether it’s in Montreal or
    elsewhere.
    With Carey Price firmly entrenched as the team’s goaltender
    of the present and future, it’s Halak’s polite way of telling Canadiens
    GM Bob Gainey that he’d be happy to go elsewhere.”

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  494. fbkj says:

    nothing particular hes just really creepy

  495. derfab says:

    I think the Habs will come out of camp strong.

    Pouliot, Pacs, AK, Eller, Boyd, Pyatt, White, Desharnais…. will all have to work hard to earn spots and distinguish themselves from even younger, less prepared players like Leblanc and Kristo.

    I doubt these guys, as a group, will be as passive and static as was often the case last year. They should be able to move the puck out.

    If not, Martin has to take responsability for poor instruction.

  496. JD_ says:

    I’ll take it you aren’t actually familiar with how CBAs like the NHL’s work.

    The only thing that happens between negotiations is that the CBA is frozen. At the end of the term, it doesn’t evaporate and then get reinvented, it is reopened.

    Any key concessions, such as the NHLPA agreeing to harder cap language, will never be taken out once they are in there. The only way this can happen is if the NHLPA agrees to something else that the NHL perceives has higher value.

  497. observer says:

    it can be changed and the next cba will be different and the one after that one different and on and on. it was obvious from that brooks story a few days ago that this would happen today. but you and every single “hockey expert” i heard on team 990 the last few days said there was no way the players association would accept a change for the very bogus reason you stated. well they accepted it.

  498. JD_ says:

    So, I take it you now understand how a CBA works. CBAs evolve every time they are reopened. Good.

    However, within that evolution, hard concessions – e.g., the introduction of a cap and, now, hard language surroundin’ that cap – are never taken out.

    On the second point, you run the risk of embarrassin’ yourself. Go back and read my original post. It’s all there for your eyes to see. The most egrigious of the two amendments the league allegedly proposed a couple of days ago was taken off the table.

    If you post another post that once again seems to ignore how the discussion is progressing, you’re going to leave me with no choice but to ignore you. You’ll just be wastin’ my time.

  499. The Cat says:

    Is it safe to say Halak has a better agent than Price?

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  500. fbkj says:

    he certainly looks after his clients nobody can deny that

  501. ZepFan2 says:

    I think you meant a more scummier agent. So yes, he does.

    Unfortunately it pays to be scummy in the agent business.

    Bravo Alan Walsh!

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  502. joeybarrie says:

    26-13-5  GA 2.4   SV% .924  25 years old   3.75 Million

    26-7-4  GA 2.25  SV% .912 27 years old     2 Million

    13-20-5  GA 2.77  SV% .912  23 years old  2.75 Million

    I dont know…Seems to me the 23 year old has the best agent….

    Halak’s is certainly the loudest…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  503. Xtrahabsfan says:

    As it stands right now,Halak is better than Price thus the pay difference and management has bet on Price to Flower this year…we will soon see!My problem is that the money for proven goalkeeping was not that much more and certainly not  enough to keep keep us from losing a  play -off hero …I hope it don’t bite us in the @ss!

  504. B says:

    It looks like both agents got their players very good deals.

  505. Exit716 says:

    Yeah, Walsh got Jaro a lot of money and the opportunity to play in a backwater like St. Louis where he’ll become an after thought.

    I think if Walsh wasn’t such a pompous ass, Jaro might still be in Montreal.

     

  506. JD_ says:

    Technically, things aren’t imposed in a CBA, they are negotiated. It might, however, be fair to describe the addition of the cap as havin’ been de jure imposed given the league locked out the players and a season was blown.

    Bettman & Co. still got paid that year. Players had to go to Europe or cut lawns to make money.

    In fact, a couple of teams circumvented the CBA by slippin’ a few bucks to players, Sakic comes to mind, and were nailed for it.

  507. The Cat says:

    I dont know…Whenever Halak’s agent was at the game, you could see the habs play differently as if they had more faith with Walsh in the stands as opposed to Price’s agent.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  508. likehoy says:

    what does that even mean??

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  509. ZepFan2 says:

    lmao

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  510. Bill J says:

    I think it was one of those “Chuck Norris can…” posts lol

    “Allan Walsh can force a Coach to Ice his player with a few well placed finger taps.”

  511. The Cat says:

    As well positioned as Price was, Im surprised his agent didnt get him more money.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  512. andrewberkshire says:

    Really? Because Price is making as much money as Halak is this season.

  513. Jordio-oh says:

    Fernando Pisani was a playoff hero for Edmonton in 2005-06 and then in the off-season the oilers signed him for 2.5 million per season and the best he could do after that was 28 points in one season, which is the same that Laps gave us for $575,000 in 2008-09.

    Playoffs heroes are great, but it doesn’t mean it will translate into continued success in some players.

    just sayin…..

  514. Duracell3 says:

    o_O  How do you figure that?

  515. B says:

    It will be interesting to see how Price’s salary from his next contract will compare to what Halak will get in the last two years of his current 4 year deal.

  516. JIMVINNY says:

    Your theory is sound, except that Pisani had severe health problems that derailed a promising career.

  517. Chorske says:

    Uh, look at Halak’s contract. The way the payments are set up, they make the same amount this year.

    Andrew, I think I might bump this grenade.

  518. Jordio-oh says:

    good point.

  519. Everlasting1 says:

    Yet the organization needed the cap space. I’m sure you’re pleased regardless..

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  520. The Cat says:

    True. He does seem scummy.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  521. Everlasting1 says:

    Perhaps Price’s agent had nothing to say about his client’s performance. Besides, he was a shoe-in for the #1 job.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  522. Psycho29 says:

    Alan Walsh, Twitter and Halak’s trade request (or non denial of wanting to be elsewhere:

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2009/11/08/sp-halak-walsh-twitter.html

    From HI/O Dec 2009:   http://www.habsinsideout.com/main/25977

     

  523. sholi2000.com says:

    My favourite quote of the year from CBC.

    Player agent Allan Walsh doesn’t seem to be winning any friends in Montreal.

    They Call Me Shane

  524. blu3chip says:

    I’m so glad that clown is gone. If I were Halak I would switch agent asap.

  525. Everlasting1 says:

    Nice smear campaign. So Walsh was pointing out the obvious thinking out loud. Hardly inflammatory.

     Jaro only wanted fair treatment, but we all know he was never part of the Gainey/Goatier plan.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  526. GrimJim says:

    I think, but I’m not 100% sure and don’t know exactly where to research a definitive answer, but I seem to remember from some conversations with Native acquaintances that it’s only income from work on the reserve that is tax-exempt for Natives. So Price would be taxed for his salary. But don’t take that to the bank…

  527. saskhabfan says:

    If he was carey’s agent you would be agreeing with the guy above you.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  528. Everlasting1 says:

    Not true. I’m a Libra.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  529. LA Loyalist says:

    “Never judge another man’s decision poor until you have the blade of your skate against his smoked meat sandwich.”


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