Price takes part in full practice, but still listed as day-to-day (with video)

After a day off on Thursday, the Canadiens were back on the ice Friday morning in Brossard as they prepare to face the Ottawa Senators Saturday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Goaltender Carey Price was on the ice a half hour before the start of the 11 a.m. practice taking shots from a half-dozen teammates. Price has missed the last eight games with a lower-body injury, during which time the Canadiens have gone 3-4-1. Price took part in the entire practice, spending about 90 minutes on the ice in total.

“Carey Price is still day-to-day, but we’re pretty happy about the way he practised,” coach Michel Therrien told reporters after practice ended.

Michael Bournival, who has been sidelined with a concussion, was cleared for contact and took part in the practice.

Lars Eller was a happy guy at practice after being reunited with Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk on the Kid Line (or EGG Line) that was successful together earlier in the season.

“We know each other very well and we’re very comfortable playing with each other. I look forward to Saturday,” Eller told reporters after practice. “I always like playing with those two. We have fun playing together and have different assets which gel well together. We’re always creating scoring chances out there, and when you do that the goals will follow.”

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked:



It will be a busy weekend for the Canadiens, who will travel to Buffalo after Saturday’s game and face the Sabres Sunday night (7 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690). 

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

Price on brink of return to lineup, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Eller happy as Kid Line reunited, by Dave Stubbs

Galchenyuk should have a bigger role, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk are three of a kind,

Post-practice interviews (video),

Games against Wings could be key for Habs, by Pat Hickey

Tiffany Parros has fashion – and business – sense, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

This week’s HI/O Show highlights

Bourque is Habs’ multi-million dollar question,

Lehner could get the call in Montreal for Senators, Ottawa Citizen


  1. ProHabs says:

    After listening to Guilaumme Latendresse the other day on Antichambre, I think he would be an excellent coach for the Habs.

  2. habs001 says:

    I have a feeling that the Senators are going to score a few goals and the Habs may need 5 goals or more to win…

  3. Sportfan says:

    So Coaches who aren’t new to the league and who aren’t Carbo that could replace MT. Boucher, Crawford and technically Bob Gainey.

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  4. Ozmodiar says:

    < ——— new thread. that-a-way.

  5. DipsyDoodler says:

    Two things we Montrealers had forgotten how to deal with are harsh winters and nationalist politics. Both are back with a vengeance this year after a good decade of benign climate. No worries, the polar vortex and Pauline Marois are temporary.

    Now if only hockey in late spring could make a comeback…

    Moving. Forward.

  6. Storm Man says:

    Can we have a winning coach behind the bench next? You know someone who is a winner not a never was who coached this team in the past not some nose candy RDS halftime show A real X and O’s guy who knows how to do line ups and coach and teach younger players.

  7. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Rather see Weaver instead of Boullion. Even though they say the want to wait untill Price is 100%, they have to beat the sens tonight.

  8. Sportfan says:

    Tucker really got pushed around in Montreal, this play by Kovalev is so amazing and hilarious>

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  9. RetroMikey says:

    Lars Eller has got to be one of the most overrated players in the league.

  10. Ozmodiar says:

    With all the MT hate, and the #firetherrien support, I don’t think I’ve ever heard the name of a qualified replacement.

    Suggestions? Anyone? You know the prerequisites… like ’em or not.

  11. Old Bald Bird says:

    Rookies being “ready to play” is a flexible concept. It can never mean that they are veteran ready or that they are never going to make mistakes. So, one has to judge with guys like Tinordi or Beaulieu whether the mistakes are acceptable. Compared to some of the alternatives, one would think so. At some point, a team has to make a decision and let it happen.

    Question. Is the chatter about Beaulieu’s supposed attitude just that — chatter — or is it something more? I sure hope it is not based on him being a little downhearted at being sent back to Hamilton. I mean, who wouldn’t be? I really question how these memes get going.

    • ProHabs says:

      He partied hard over the Olympic break thinking that his spot in the NHL was guaranteed when the Olympics were finished. He got a wake up call that he wasn’t expecting.

  12. Maritime Ronn says:

    #Habs @PKSubban1 in dressing room, singing to media with a huge smile on his face, “I know something you don’t know.”
    New contract?

  13. Sportfan says:

    This game, always makes me smile and I get crazy goosebumps. I’m too young to remember any cup wins, but I’m happy I was at the comeback game!

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  14. Storm Man says:

    So Cube is a top 4 Dman? Lol MT your lost buddy.

  15. AH says:

    Big game tonight, and the Habs have been off since Thursday, will they crap the bed again and come out listless and lifeless?

  16. Sportfan says:

    Is Strombo going to make hockey hip or urban? WHO THE HECK CARES, its popular enough strombo won’t make it any popular in Canada. Sigh some article titles alone make me sad.

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  17. rhino514 says:

    I was looking forward to having Bournival back the way he got that fourth line going, guess it ain´t gonna happen.
    Man, this team should be explosive offensively. MT sure has been given some good pieces to work with this year.
    Maybe the team just can´t function without Price. MT won´t have that excuse starting tonight or tomorrow.

  18. HabsLifer says:

    With all the talk about the cap being around the 70 million level, why wouldn’t the league pro rate the canadien dollar to the american dollars? I don’t think that’s been a topic of conversation on the blog. Any comments? I really puts a big disavantage on canadian teams. Or does it already exist?

    Claude Provost Rocked!

  19. Maritime Ronn says:

    JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs Price has taken part in all drills this morning. Fired a puck in disgust after giving up a goal — a sure sign he’s back to normal.

    @JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs d-pairs vs #Sens: Markov – Emelin Bouillon – Subban Murray – Tinordi

    @JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs lines vs #Sens:
    Pacioretty – Desharnais – Vanek.
    Brière – Plekanec – Gionta.
    Galchenyuk – Eller – Gallagher
    Moen – Prust – Weise

  20. zephyr says:

    vanek on our top line is a no-brainer. it hurt us to have 2 small guys on the same line & now dd has 2 power fwds to work with. it was a stupid idea to play vanek on a checking line – are we trying to drive him away from montreal? I like the egg line. I don’t like gio & briere on the same line. let briere center the 4th line & play bournival, prust or bourque with pleks. bourque is still an asset & was one of our best fwds in the last playoffs. I think it’s unwise to discount him.
    I too wish they’d play pateryn. maybe they feel he takes too many chances right now. tinordi has been making too many mistakes but then again so has emelin. it might not make so much of a difference if we scored more. beaulieu looked better than tinordi but still lacks size. I think habs mgmt. has an eye toward the playoffs in keeping tinordi in the lineup. it’s going to be another free-for-all of hacking, holding & interference & we’ll need the bodies who can power thru that mess & win battles.
    can’t fire mt now. that’s a very risky move. when jm got fired, the team nosedived. we’ll have to stick with him until the season is over. if we miss the playoffs or make an early exit, he’ll be gone. mt lost me when he said the habs are a grinding team. you have to be big to grind.

  21. howiemorenz7 says:

    I can finally say I like the lines, all four of them, for a change. About time. Why Nathan isn’t playing over Cube is a mystery to me, so bizarre how they’ve handled the young D-men.

    Joliat and I are gonna tear up the clouds tonight. Gonna check with St. Peter to see who the debutantes are tonight. I’ll PVR the game – (but dudes, you should see the future of sports viewing, it’s awesome).

    Maroons Suck. #7 foreva.

  22. gmur says:

    Fire the coach? That’s the solution?

    I’m not the biggest MT fan, but his system kept the Canadiens close second in the standings until the Olympic break. The Habs were a top-tier team in the East up to the break. Why?

    At the start of the season, everyone said that the cornerstone to the Habs’ season was Price. Have any sharp hockey analysts noticed that the Habs’ dive has coincided with Price’s injury? Name the teams in the league who can win if their goaltender allows one or two bad goals every game. Pittsburgh, Chicago, maybe Anaheim? Even Boston the other night would have been in trouble against us without Rask at the top of his game. Honestly, what chances would anyone here have given the Habs to make the playoffs had they started the season with Budaj and Tokarski as our one-two goaltender tandem?

    If I’m annoyed, it would be at whatever staff, be they Canadiens or Canadian, that knew Price was injured, but allowed him to continue to play at the Olympics anyways. That is a BS decision, and we’re out of the playoffs as it stands because of it. If Price had taken the Olympic break and healed his groin, we would not have slipped the way we have in the standings. For what it’s worth, considering how well Canada played defensively, I think they would have won gold with Luongo or Smith in the nets.

    If Price comes back and tweaks his groin again, which is highly possible for a goalie even if it seems entirely healed, we are in lots of trouble… Therrien or no Therrien.

    • JF says:

      Can’t disagree that Price is the cornerstone of the franchise and that our slide is due largely to his absence. But a few more goals would also help. We go through these periodic goal droughts, and they always coincide with a string of losses, regardless of who is in goal.

      But I disagree that it was possibly the wrong decision for Price to go to the Olympics. Playing for Team Canada was a great experience, and winning the gold medal was huge. I think it is impossible to over-estimate its importance for Price’s future in terms of confidence and self-belief. Whatever happens to the Habs the rest of this season, Price is now among the elite goaltenders of the NHL.

      BTW, Price’s injury appears not to be groin, but something with his knee, maybe tendinitis.

  23. 24 Cups says:

    Lots of talk about line combos.

    In a perfect world, Vanek functions best on the left side with a right shooting centre. In Montreal, that basically means Briere. Before you laugh out loud, remember that Briere was brought here to provide spark for the offense, especially during the playoffs.

    No one wants to see Eller bumped from centre but let’s face it, he’s close to being Emelin right now. Eller could move onto the left wing and play with White/Moen/Wiese. That wouldn’t be the end of the world in terms of the next few months. In fact, having two centres on the 4th line can be a real advantage. Galchenyuk would play with Pleks and Gionta which would add some playmaking and creativity to the line.

    That leaves just one problem. Who would play RW for Vanek and Briere? Ideally, that would be a guy who has size and can play a physical game. Do the dirty work and back up defensively when the other two get caught out of position (which they do a lot). Ideally, that would be Bourque. However, Bourque won’t be playing full tilt until he’s in his contract year, which is two seasons from now. Sticking with reality, the only other option would be Prust. Not ideal, but if things were ideal, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

  24. Maritime Ronn says:

    #Habs daily Price watch: looks to be gearing up for full participation in morning skate. Started work early with Stephane Waite

  25. scrotchland says:

    I wish Bergovin would FIX this team and kick therians butt to the curb.

    hopefully manny is not going to either game this weekend. maybe they can win a game.

    • crane says:

      Buffalo don’t resign Nolan,he should be next coach,french or not.

      • Sportfan says:

        Nolan would stand up to the language bs so fast it would be hilarious!

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        • crane says:

          Nolan been around,put up with all the NHL crap over the years.I think he’s good with the kids,be perfect.

          • Luke says:

            Nolan’s an odd case. Plenty of drama seems to follow him around… well maybe not drama, but hushed whispers and rumour mongering. He’s only had success in one market, though.

            Granted, aside from NYI, I can’t think of another spot he’s been a chance (Latvia excluded).

            He would do well here, though, as Matty likes to repeatedly point out, this is a Grinding team. Nolan works magic with Grinders.

  26. Paz says:

    I feel like tonight’s game is like game 1 of a playoff series.

  27. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Did anyone listen to Thomas Vanek’s postgame interview when asked the Boston Gooins? “Very good coaching staff” he said. Makes you wonder what he thinks of the tools we have.

  28. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I like the lines. Hopefully dipstick MT will leave them as is.

  29. Frozen Village says:

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

    • Frozen Village says:

      In fairness to MT, with regard to shuffling and counter logical/intuitive thinking, potentially he only came across ‘the George Costanza epiphany’ ; after training camp when he juggled but one ball, watching is go up and down and up and down, outside of a few tricks early in the season, thinking the game has passed him by and he sells what he can for longevity.

      More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  30. Hobie Hansen says:

    Huge game for both teams tonight! Montreal is slipping and sliding while the Sens are desperately trying to make a push for a playoff spot.

    If Montreal wins Ottawa is in real tough, especially if the 8th place Flyers win. They’d be 7pts out of the final wildcard spot with about a month to go in the season. Montreal could potentially jump back into 3rd spot in the Atlantic if Tampa Bay loses as well.

    If Ottawa wins, oh boy, things will officially be disaster in Montreal, as far as the fans on this site and everywhere are concerned. The Canadiens would have a 4pt cushion over 9th place Detroit. The Wings would have two games in hand though.

    So bottom line, the Habs REALLY have to win tonight and get back on track! Ottawa is going to be super hungry so the Habs must be as well! They have to be in playoff mode starting tonight!

    • CJ says:

      Good morning Hobie. The boys better be sharp tonight. Like you said, the Senators are desperate. They have Colorado tomorrow. Two losses this weekend and they will be all but mathematically eliminated.

      I’m excepting a very good game tonight. Goodness, I hope we bury the Sens.

      • ABHabsfan says:

        God morning CJ. Need a fast, hard start tonight with results not just effort. Bury Lehner before he gains any confidence. I think the re-united EGG line is gonna fly!

        “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
        Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

  31. Frozen Village says:

    Alignment when healthy IMHO.

    Chuck.Lars.Gally – GE-Global
    Emelin.Beaulieu – if he has grown up; which was the concern before he fell in the draft; if not Mix in Murray and Weaver as the 6, hope Nate is getting over himself.

    Team speed is key.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

    • Gehlsen says:

      I like it…especially the fourth line.
      Bournival/Briere for second line switch

      Les Habitant!

    • Ozmodiar says:

      If they’re going to put the EGG line together, they’ll be expected to produce offensively.
      If they’re expected to produce offensively, they should get the easy minutes.
      If they get the easy minutes, Max / Vanek will draw tougher match-up.
      If Max / Vanek draw the tougher match-ups, they’ll need a better 2-way center.
      If they need a better 2-way center, it will be Plekanec.
      If it’s Plekanec, DD falls to 3rd on the depth chart.
      If DD’s 3rd on the depth chart, he plays with Bourni and Gio.
      If he plays with Bourni and Gio, might as well replace him with someone who’s more physical and tougher to play against

      • Frozen Village says:

        Like your linear.
        Thing is MT has given DD numbers, will be hard to supplant without the HABS universe becoming mal-focused

        More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

    • CJ says:

      I agree with this combination. If everyone is healthy, this is our best lineup IMO.

      The only small change I would make is pairing Emelin with Gorges 5/6 and Beaulieu with Markov on our 3/4.

      • Frozen Village says:

        Like it, Beaulieu and Georges can play the right side, ironic really, the Russians have a hard time with their off-side.

        More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  32. 24 Cups says:

    Bettman has stated that the cap next year might well be 69M or 70M instead of the predicted 71+M. This would due to the lower Canadian dollar.

    Speaking of the cap, my gut tells me that Ryan Callahan may have blundered when he was negotiating with the Rangers. They offered 36M over six years. It will be interesting to see what he eventually gets but I can’t see it being much more for a 2nd line winger who is injury prone. Callahan was playing for the Rangers, an original six team in one of the best cities in the world. He was the team’s captain and had an outside chance of winning the Cup in the next five years.. Now he’s going to lose all of that just so he can get an extra 500,000 a year or an extra year on his contract.

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      One thing we will never know is did he want out?
      Did he position his contract demands knowing the Rangers would not match?

      Does he want to move back to closer and quieter home grounds Rochester-Buffalo where he would probably fetch 7 years/$40-$45M?
      I believe his wife is also from the region….

      Then again, if he decided to go the full UFA route, there will be a boat load of teams throwing the usual crazy money at him ( see David Clarkson)

      • 24 Cups says:

        I can’t see a rebuilding team signing an UFA for big coin. Maybe in three or four years but not now. Besides, Rochester isn’t that far from NY. They’re both in the same state.

        I think Callahan’s’ s agent blew it thinking that Callahan was going to get 7M.

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          The Sabres are going to have to sign players.
          They will also need some big time leadership with all the young guys coming in.
          They only have 13 roster players for next year and are way below the Cap Floor…having to spend about another $15M-$18M just to get there.

          Rochester/Buffalo may not be far from New York, but those are 2 very different worlds….

    • ont fan says:

      When he was interviewed after trade, looked totally shocked. Like, what have I done?

    • Paz says:

      I think Callahan is really a rare breed in the league. There are only 4 or 5 guys like him, and that makes him very valuable.

      Several 20 goal seasons, hits like a tank, works like a dog, and a leader.

      I take Callahan for what he’s asking over Vanek in a second.

  33. Gehlsen says:

    Everyone seems to want Therriens head and want him out….but with 19 games left and were still in the playoff hunt I don’t seem him going anywhere. NOW is not the time to be switching coaches. To be honest I don’t think he’s that bad or that good…mediocre at best.
    It’s still a young team learning the curves with a new face to the franchise and it will take time.
    Adding Vanek was a great asset to the team but I wonder are there to many players on the roster up front and is that more challenging for a coach to find the best chemistry going forward…

    Les Habitant!

    • PrimeTime says:

      “Everyone” does want Therrien’s head or want him out but hid critics sure do. I agree that me is a “mediocre” coach and I’m not sure he can a team to the top but he is the best option today. As long as this team is not playing below expectations he will remain the coach. His record this season and last year indicate many of his critics will remain disappointed.

      “Fans are entitled to express their opinion, but most of the comments on talk radio and on The Gazette’s Hockey Inside/Out website ranged from the mildly uninformed to the outrageously stupid” – Pat Hickey.

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    • wjc says:

      It is a common refrain……FIRE THE COACH.

      Is the team the best in the league?
      Are they top ten? If they are top 10 they are where they are expected to be. Coach has them where they are expected to be.

      If they are where they are expected to be, then how far into the playoffs will they go. 1 round, 2 rounds, 3 rounds, finals, or Stanley.

      If first round is failure and Finals is a tad unrealistic, then their destiny is to fail, just like 29 other teams will do. If that is considered failure.

      Top ten suggests that anything past the 2nd round is a bonus.

      So how does a coach take a building team and make them winners, NOW! He gets lucky.

      A little side peak at how things really are in the SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT business.

      It is given that only 16 teams can make it to the dance.

      That means 14 teams are into an early vacation (oh the horrors.)

      A week later another 8 join the 14 on the sidelines.

      Now the secret. At the end of the year, the NHL sends about 60 million dollars to each and every team regardless where they finish.

      So if you look at a team like Montreal that shares revenues so that more teams can survive on an everyday basis, they get that money back plus come the end of the year, thanks to pay-per-view, sponsors, television etc.

      They also see the value of there assets go up to to the Billion dollar level and if and when the sell they will realize another 500,000,000.00 profit.

      The league won’t let them overspend cap, so the fans cannot demand they spend money on players past the cap, so they are off the hook even if they can afford it.

      Winning a Stanley is nice but very, very hard to do and if a teams does not win it, the rewards are still nice.

      Players rich, owners rich, fans passionate. They will always come back with more jumping on all the time.


    • boing007 says:

      Make that 15 games, not 19.

      Richard R

  34. Habfan17 says:

    @ Maritime Ronn, in reply to your response. Thanks for your perspective!!

    Thanks for this MR. Bowman was a master and I think the hallmark of a good coach it to know when to stop juggling at least some of the players. As an example, I watched a John Leclair interview after he had two strong seasons in Philly. He said that the reason is faltered in Montreal was the constant line juggling with Demers. He would start on the first line, make a mistake then either be moved to the 4th line or benched for various lengths of time. he said it destroyed his confidence. He went on to say that when he arrived in Philly, the coach put his line together and told them they had 30 games to prove they belonged together and to be the first line. the rest his history. Bowman’s line juggling was more taking certain players in and out of the lineup when they played specific teams, and these weren’t the top players. I don’t think Bowman ever had Lafleur play left wing or on the 4th line. I don’t recall seeing the little M play anywhere but centre and the same goes for Lemaire, Shutt and so on.

    Therrien is no where close to the same league as Bowman!


    • boing007 says:

      But he (MT) speaks French. Encore plus il est ‘de souche’. Whatever that means. Not that much, really.


      Le terme est utilisé pour la première fois au début du XIXe siècle12 puis en Algérie française pour désigner les colons français installés en Algérie depuis plusieurs générations et demeurés attachés à leurs racines13. Dans le contexte de la guerre d’Algérie, il est également utilisé par Charles de Gaulle pour désigner la population européenne de l’Algérie et la distinguer des « Musulmans »14. Par la suite, d’après Jean-Luc Richard, maître de conférences en sociologie et démographie, il est réutilisé en 1979 dans Le National, journal politique du Front national, terme selon lui « associé à la première expression politique de l’idée fausse de la mesurabilité d’un coût de l’immigration en France »15.

      Tiens, tiens. A popular turn of phrase employed by Charles ‘Vive le Québec Libre’ de Gaulle and Front National Leader Le Pen.
      Dear me, I forgot to add Jacques Parizeau to that illustrious list.

      Richard R

    • wjc says:

      You have to realize, Lafluer was a superstar and a lot of the players were veterans. Bowman pissed off a lot of players that were shall we say average with his head games and juggling.

      Just ask Coryonia (effin name can never spell it) and Trembly to name a few. He also had top three defencemen in the entire league on his team, along with Dryden. To keep the players attention and on edge he was unpredictable, they mostly hated him but they won, so what can you do. Read Drydens book ‘the Game’.

      He had a team that could not be touched, so to compare him to the present Canadiens, is a tad unrealistic.

      Coaches are usually as good as the teams they coach.

      Remember he went to Buffalo for 8 years and was fired.


      • habstrinifan says:

        “Coaches are usually as good as the teams they coach”.

        So Bowman had great team … Bowman was great coach!
        Therrien has ??? team…. Therrien is ??? coach.

        So since team is only difference!

        Then THerrien = Bowman!!!

        OK! You win!

        I cry Uncle!

  35. PrimeTime says:

    Is B/R your sports bible? It receives more criticisms than accolades. I usually take their opinions with a grain of salt, but that’s just me….I prefer more reputable media sources. I’m not denying MT said that Vanek needs to adjust to the team but I would not spin it as “he needs to fix his game”. Every coach needs to put the team first. I’m not a huge Therrien fan but it drives me nuts when fans say “players come first”. The team should not be adjusted to Vanek anymore it should for PK’s style. It is the coaches job to get the best out of the whole team, not the top 3 or 4 players. Hockey is not basketball where the star players rule no matter how much Bettman tried to model the NHL to feature it’s stars like basketball did to succeed. I understand both sports well and the “team play” of hockey has more success than teams that rely on their few “stars” to win.

    MT is right to get the most out of team than a just a few players. He also put his ego aside to adjust the team balance with the line changes we will see tonight. I’m hoping the players will adjust to them and continue to improve as a team.

    “Fans are entitled to express their opinion, but most of the comments on talk radio and on The Gazette’s Hockey Inside/Out website ranged from the mildly uninformed to the outrageously stupid” – Pat Hickey.

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    • Maritime Ronn says:

      I like Patrick Roy’s take on things.

      In a recent RDS interview, he said the following:
      ” Je leur ai dit que le système n’est pas fait pour l’entraîneur, mais pour l’équipe.” Alors les joueurs se devaient d’être confortables à l’intérieur de ce dernier”

      ” I told them (players) that the system isn’t made (set up) for the coach, but for the team.
      Then the players had to be comfortable inside it.”

      • Just a Habs Fan says:

        MR…now I womder what MT says in that light. What I have heard him say was vulgar laced and referenced grinding on CH24…….he just does not come over as a nice or even moderately liked man. I think personality goes a quite a long way when you are asking player to perform hard. With the big guaranteed salaries in these times a player can coast and it doesn’t affect his contract even if he is a free agent soon. Someone will always pick him up. Just as we fans think players would succeed if used properly so do other GMs……wish we had given Roy a chance….sigh

    • habstrinifan says:

      OK! You win! UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE!

      Question Therrien:… Rag paper not worth grain of salt.. Bird poop material.

      Coach good! Franchise good! Fans stoopid to boo! Leafs vaulting over HABS (even after West Coast swing)… lucky.

      Therrien’s vision great!

      I wrong! I stooopid! I see direct Therrien’s words.. I see video .. but I stooopid to concur with write not so reputable people.

      You win! You reputable! UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE!

  36. Gehlsen says:

    The team has had time to rest and practice….go habs go!

    Les Habitant!

  37. Bob_Sacamano says:

    So Bergevin traded for RD Weaver, there´s another decent RD (Pateryn) playing for Hamilton and Therrien stubbornly still dresses five LD. Smart.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      NHL depth/experience for the playoff run and playoffs.

      The 5th round pick will be replaced by the Islanders 5th round pick in the Vanek deal if the Habs make the playoffs.
      If the Habs don’t, they keep their 2nd round pick and don’t get the Islanders 5th.

      Weaver was playing 18:47/game with Florida before the trade.
      Weaver has 598 NHL games played.
      It’s the ‘safer’ move at this point in the season.

      • wjc says:

        I thought it was a second round pick?


        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Weaver was traded for a 5th.

          The Vanek trade had conditions

          ” The Islanders have traded Vanek and a ‘conditional’ fifth-round pick to the Montreal Canadiens for Sebastian Collberg and a ‘conditional’ second-round draft pick.

          *Both picks are conditional upon the Canadiens making the Stanley Cup Playoffs.”

        • boing007 says:

          I thought MB was averse to giving up draft picks?

          Richard R

      • CJ says:

        All good points, however, Weaver has 11 NHL playoff games under his belt. I understand the insurance, but I disagree with the move.

        Speaking of inexperience, Emelin has never played a playoff game.

    • 24 Cups says:

      I was just sitting here thinking the same thing. We have the slump ridden Emelin on the right side as well as a rookie. The trade for Weaver was in case there was an injury (which the Habs already knew about). Now we don’t play him.

      As well, I really believe that MT should start Tokarski. Just a hunch on my part. If he wins tonight, start him again tomorrow.

      In many ways, this season may come down to this weekend. Ottawa has been struggling all year long and Buffalo is the worst team in the NHL. Rationalization aside, it’s now or never.

  38. Maritime Ronn says:

    Here’s hoping there is some patience for Vanek, regardless of line mates or coaching decisions.

    Even the reigning Art Ross trophy winner Marty St. Louis is having a rough start in New York.

    GP: 6. Goals: 0. Assists 2. Minus -1.

    St. Louis has played an average of 19:15 per game including 1st Unit PP time with some very good linemates in Brad Richards and Carl Hagelin…and has also played with Stepan and Kreider.
    Richards and Stepan are the top scoring Rangers centers.

  39. Mattyleg says:


    I know lots of people enjoy grasping at straws to take digs at Therrien.
    I don’t think he’s the best coach in the world, but I find it exasperating that people will go so far to try to support their bias against the coach.

    Trini posted a link below, and then went on to complain that Therrien asked Vanek to “FIX HIS GAME”.

    Here is Therrien’s quote in the article he linked:

    “He’s got to make some adjustments to his game,” Therrien said. “I understand that he’s confident on the left side; he’s been playing there most of his career. But at times you’ve got to adjust with the players that you’ve got and put together lines that you think will give you success as a team.”

    Nowhere, and I mean nowhere in there does Therrien suggest that there is a problem with Vanek, or ‘his game’.

    What he is saying (and this is the exasperating part; explaining things that are in clear English) is that Vanek has to make adjustments to play with new linemates and under a new system. He knows that Vanek can play both wings, and he feels that he’d be better used with Pacioretty and DD.

    This is something that almost EVERY POSTER suggested since we got him, and now that he’s putting him on the right side (where Vanek has played before, even though he says that he’s less comfortable there because he hasn’t played there in a while) he has asked him to make adjustments.

    Is this a terrible thing to say? Is this an unreasonable request?

    Is this why nearly nobody on the Habs or in its front office ever wants to talk to the media?

    C’mon guys.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • wjc says:

      Mattyleg, you and I are on the same page.

      Things taken out of context drive me up the wall.

      Teams of all types have up and down seasons, you do not change the coach at every dip.

      Price will stabalize the back end and Vanek hopefully will give them an extra offensive weapon. The answer to all of this is to start winning again and hope the dips are maybe over.

      It seems a classic damned if you do and damned if don’t.


    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I don’t like getting into coaching debates but….

      For all the bashes talking about DD getting favourable matchups.. That is good coaching. MT ensures that Patch (without a doubt our best scorer) is put in offensively favourable situations, and Plek is almost always against oppositions top scoring line. These two forward line matchups have been implemented very well by MT. I’m not sure about systems, but most teams I lauded on had slightly different systems for each line, so I’d assume NHL is much more in depth than what I’ve seen.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Habfan17 says:

      hey Mattyleg,

      I think the point is that Therrien asks certain players to change their positions to make them “fit” and not others! He took Gallagher away from Eller and Galchnyuk when they were doing very well, in order to try to jump start DD. He had to try something. Why then is not reasonable to move Patches to left wing with Pleks and Gio and then have Vanek on the left side with DD and Bourque? Bourque has always produced batter from the right side!

      This is why I think so many bash Therrien. He expects the players to adjust to different positions and only does it with a select few. Some players seem to get a pass in the musical chairs games he keeps playing!


      • DipsyDoodler says:

        “He took Gallagher away from Eller and Galchnyuk when they were doing very well, in order to try to jump start DD.”

        Debunked many times on this very site.

        Not only that but the idea that Therrien’s concern is to jump start the Franco player (so that Molson can sell more beer is the explanation I’ve read) (*) is, even by the standards we’ve come to accept on H I/O, completely illogical.

        Therrien, like every other coach, knows that if the team loses he’s out of a job.

        I think it’s safe to say that all of his decisions are driven by that knowledge.

        (* Note that I’m not saying you believe that version of it.)
        Moving. Forward.

    • boing007 says:

      Sorry, it’s not a bias, it’s a critique of his coaching style.

      Richard R

  40. wjc says:

    Immediate things to be concerned about. Avoid at all cost getting up 2-0, apparently this is the worst lead in hockey.


  41. Bugs says:

    So anyways, didn’t get a chance to finish the story:
    After puttin down this great, great idea of mine on the site day or two ago and lamenting that I didn’t have management’s ear like in the Gainey days, the phone rings…
    And it’s Mikey Earthling!
    And he says “Ok, Bugs; I’ll do it your way; give it a go.”
    And bam! Line 1, line 2, line 3, just like Bugs laid out.
    I never say “I told you so” and I don’t like people who do.
    But uhhh… aw, I can’t.

    Left turn-missin’ L. B. Potter.

  42. habstrinifan says:

    HABS – Price will show the real ‘value’ of Therrien Hockey…. that “look at his record” argument will go up in smoke soon.

  43. habstrinifan says:

    @Habfan17:.. Thanks for the link below.
    “So, the great Therrien is at it again!

    See this is why I can’t understand the Therrien apologists. MB goes out and get Vanek.. no pratcices; no getting to know this player; but Therrien makes remarks like these.

    I bet you Vanek, who was on a team with Tavares, didnt know that he was coming to such a stellar collection of superstar forwards in Mtl, that he HAD TO FIX his game. Tavarres …meh chump change… Gionta/Pleks… now dem the stars you change your game for.

    Timo’s right! Dont bring any more players please. Beaulieu doesnt realize how freakin lucky he is with more prospect of leaving this franchise than staying.

    I mean serious. Therrien wants Vanek to change… in order to fit into this top level team???

    When would this nightmare end?

    EDIT: Before you make your next critical post of Eller or P.K or Prust or whomever… think of you being a player under this man… would you be able to overcome frustration.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Hi Jim

      No doubt there has been some ‘difficult to understand’ stuff going on.

      Unfortunately, we the fans, have little to zero access to all the information of the room – the chats – the overall dynamic – the players personal lives and habits – the chemistry and clicks, or ‘strategy’….or answers to items such as the real ‘whys’ of leaving a Nathan Beaulieu in Hamilton…

      CH24 is a made for TV show and in few ways reflects the true realities.

      Lots of stuff goes on behind the scenes that mainstream media doesn’t touch, yet alternate media do…such as a kind of weird Chuckie mini car accident at 1:30 AM in the morning a few days ago.

      If you can read French

      To be honest, we can rewind the tape as much as we wish, yet perhaps it may be better to look forward to the next 19 games and see how all of this pans out.
      Better for your your heart, Jim

      • habstrinifan says:

        Thanks for the link. I enjoy taking my french skills for a test drive so will definitely read it.

        Re the HABS and Therrien: Past the joking point for me. I honestly believe this coach will destroy players.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Hey MR, I mentioned to your direct reply to my post. I can only go by what I and everyone else sees on the ice. In Pittsburgh, sure he did well, but he was stifling Crosby and Malkin turning them into players they are not instead of exploiting their strengths. They did much better when he was canned. Now the Habs players are regressing, he wants a very successful player who was brought in for his offence, to change his game, whereas his past coaches were smart enough to know, that is why the player is here! To provide offence and pair him with players that will enable him to produce.

        Therrien has not evolved, other than he is not publicly calling out his players and has calmed down when he is in the public eye. As a coach, he either does not want to, or cannot, evolve!


        • Maritime Ronn says:

          hi 17

          A little while ago, I googled some Penguins fans site to see what the sentiment was during the Therrien time there.
          Many, many posts complained about…the way Therrien was juggling the lines….

          A funny one by a Therrien backer said something to the effect to lay off Therrien and that Scotty Bowman was one of the best line jugglers ever

          Here it is from May 2008.
          ” …Also, the never-ending criticism of Therrien’s line juggling is such a joke. One of the biggest line jugglers of all time was Scotty Bowman and he just happens to be the winningest coach in NHL history.”

          Then there was this one:
          “Say what you want about the line juggling, but there isn’t a single forward on this team that hasn’t played with another forward at one time or another…. It is frustrating to watch the line changes and it looks as if they don’t have chemistry, but I think Therrian was trying to give 12 forwards chemistry, rather than just 3.”

          • Habfan17 says:

            Thanks for this MR. Bowman was a master and I think the hallmark of a good coach it to know when to stop juggling at least some of the players. As an example, I watched a John Leclair interview after he had two strong seasons in Philly. He said that the reason is faltered in Montreal was the constant line juggling with Demers. He would start on the first line, make a mistake then either be moved to the 4th line or benched for various lengths of time. he said it destroyed his confidence. He went on to say that when he arrived in Philly, the coach put his line together and told them they had 30 games to prove they belonged together and to be the first line. the rest his history. Bowman’s line juggling was more taking certain players in and out of the lineup when they played specific teams, and these weren’t the top players. I don’t think Bowman ever had Lafleur play left wing or on the 4th line. I don’t recall seeing the little M play anywhere but centre and the same goes for Lemaire, Shutt and so on.

            Therrien is no where close to the same league as Bowman!


          • wjc says:

            Taken out of context, it was stated that even the ‘Great Scotty Bowman’ juggled lines, along with guys like Burns and Keenan.

            Sometimes you have to find that combination that works and when things are spread thin, you have a harder time.

            If you juggle lines a little, if an injury hits the players have at least had some experience with each other. 12 forwards should have chemistry with each other if that is possible, sometime compromise is necessary to make things work.


      • habstrinifan says:

        Hi Ronn.. just got thru reading the article. The writer is actually pretty ‘funny’ in a tongue in cheek way. I couldnt find his/her name anywhere though.

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Yea, he is pretty funny.
          That site is actually pretty good.
          They were the first, by far, to state that Carey was going on Injured Reserve list when the word was Carey was only going to miss 2 games.
          Another was concerning Bouillon – they posted a full day + in advance that he would be dressed against Boston, way before anyone else.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Hey Trini!
      You are welcome and thank you for your additional points! It does baffle me. If I were Bergevin, I would quietly walk into Therrien’s office, close the door, sit down and in a firm low tone, tell him to stop messing up the players, go back to the system he had in place last season and play the kids and do as he said he would, reward the players who play well, and sit the ones who don’t, hello Gionta! Call it a rest, call it what you like, put the best team on the ice and play the players in their natural positions!!


      • wjc says:

        Psst…..a little secret, keep it to yourself.

        The G.M, assistants and coaches discuss line possibilities all the time and suggestions are readily made…all the time.

        Therien does not operate in a vacuum, they have meetings all the time whether it is tele conferencing or in the Bell offices. This stuff is discussed on a daily basis. If it works great, if it does not work Therien has to take the kick in the crotch.

        That is how it works, hate to pop anyones bubble. Some think Therien sits in his office and just throws it all together himself.

        Players might also offer suggestions such as Patriocetty saying he like D.D. as his centerman. He then goes out and makes it work and helps a team mate find his game.


    • Loop_Garoo says:

      I’m not a big Therrien defender, however, every player who has ever changed teams has had to make adjustments, and no one said anything about Vanek having to “fix” his game. Therrien’s english skills are not good, I think he was defending Vanek, saying he needed to adjust to a new situation so give him time.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Interesting take. I am not sure at this point that Therrien’s English skill are not good enough to convey his message. Based on other comments I have heard him make, I still think he made the comment in reply to the tongue in cheek comment Vanek made about switching to right wing.


        • Mattyleg says:

          What tongue-in-cheek comment?
          I heard him make one about being a defensive specialist.
          Didn’t hear the other one, I guess.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Just a Habs Fan says:

          Ah……the age old habit/requirement to have a French speaking coach fro the Habs above all else……now to suggest his remarks that seem strange and difficult to say the least are misunderstood by the public because English is his second language….I find that ironic…what you ask is ironic about that ? Well having a French speaking coach that can’t properly speak English to a team of players that can’t speak French and surely do understand English. It’s absolutely ironic. Wonder if having a coach who could speak and convey English well would work better for the team…no probably not. What about the best possible coach no matter what the language and an interpreter for the entrenched media and other language worry worts.

    • wjc says:

      He needs to adjust his game.

      Just like St. Louis in New York. Adjust his game…ADJUST!

      People have to stop making stuff up, it is dishonest to say the least, just stick to the facts.



    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Hi Jim

      That article sums up the Quebec/NHL thing quite well.
      It appears Peladeau prefers the perks of being a King of a Nation vs. leading a business that daddy built.
      Too bad the NHL has to remain silent and politically correct…and could not be more vocal…such as, ” Do you prefer to wave a flag and become an economic banana republic basket case with few crumbs on the plate, OR, would you prefer the return of the Nordiques and remain a part of one of the most wonderful diverse nations on the planet?”
      That should be the Referendum Question.

    • habstrinifan says:

      This link contains some of the implications which make me believe the casual remark I heard (sitting on the fringe in a not so lightweight group) approximately two months ago and posted.

      The declining dollar was forecast then. But the increasing lethargy and slowly declining ‘goodwill’ were mentioned. The conditions point to it being more possible that indeed Geoff Molson is not as enamoured with the idea of owning the HABS as before.

  44. CJ says:

    Good morning folks. Been up for a couple hours with our little guy. Looks like the flu, or a stomach bug. Hate seeing him sick, but love the cuddles.

    I am looking forward to the game tonight. The east is getting tighter by the day, so the game against the Sens is a must win. Looking ahead, I’m looking forward to seeing Colorado and Columbus next week, two teams who I have loved watching this season.

    Got to cut if off there for now. Duty calls. Looking forward to checking for updates regarding lineup changes, specifically in goal. Have a great day everyone! Cheers, CJ

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Hope the young one recovers quick CJ.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Too bad he’s sick. The St. Patrick Day parade is today on Laurier…ends at 1:00. Might be a tad cold though.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Hi CJ

      You brought back memories of almost 3 decades ago.
      It always breaks your heart when you see a little one of your little ones sick, yet if there is any silver lining, that’s the stuff that builds good immune systems.

    • CJ says:

      Good morning everyone. Thank you for the kind words. Jim, thank you for linking the article above. Interesting dynamic in Boston with cap implications. Caron for Leblanc?

      I’m keeping an eye on the free agent lists, including the CHL and NCAA in addition to UFA’s. Not a lot of options to replace Parros. I’d be willing to take a stab at Shawn Thorton on a one year deal. I don’t know how we can possibly get from under the Bourque deal. Too bad really.

      The next six months will shape the short term future of this organization. We have a number of decisions to make on our own UFA, RFA and imbalance of talent. I wonder if we see a bunch of moves at the draft.

      • Maritime Ronn says:


        I believe Bourque is very moveable if the Habs decide that for 2 reasons

        1) A Cap bottom feeder trying to get to the Cap Floor next year may like his lower $2.5M salary and higher $ 3.33M Cap Hit.

        2) The new CBA allows a team to retain up to 50% of a traded players Salary/Cap.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Sorry. I’m an idiot. Should have checked the links above before posting. 2 minutes delay of game for me.

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      Surprisingly, that article presents some info that is factually wrong.

      It states, “…Should he give winger Rene Bourque a $3.67-million US check on June 15 to buy out the remaining two years of his contract?”

      In fact, if a buyout was to happen, the actual dollar costs to the Habs would be spread out over 4 years with 4 payments of 833,333/year…and not 1 cheque.

      The other fact not mentioned in the article is that Bourque could be an interesting player in a trade for a team that needs to hit the Cap Floor, yet wants to pay a lessor salary

      Bourque Salary for next 2 years:
      $2.5M, while his Capt Hit is $3.33M.
      Lastly with the new CBA, the Habs could also withhold up to 50% of Cap/Salary in a trade if need be.

      Many options and certainly no rush.

      • wjc says:

        Should wait until this year plays out before deciding.

        The tendency is to worry to soon, about things that may work themselves out, he might find his game. That is my hope.

        Sports are full of players who have miserable years and turn it around in the post season, just have to wait and see.


    • boing007 says:

      René Bourque: Multi-million-dollar boondoggle.

      Richard R

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