Price takes part in full practice, but still listed as day-to-day (with video)

After a day off on Thursday, the Canadiens were back on the ice Friday morning in Brossard as they prepare to face the Ottawa Senators Saturday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Goaltender Carey Price was on the ice a half hour before the start of the 11 a.m. practice taking shots from a half-dozen teammates. Price has missed the last eight games with a lower-body injury, during which time the Canadiens have gone 3-4-1. Price took part in the entire practice, spending about 90 minutes on the ice in total.

“Carey Price is still day-to-day, but we’re pretty happy about the way he practised,” coach Michel Therrien told reporters after practice ended.

Michael Bournival, who has been sidelined with a concussion, was cleared for contact and took part in the practice.

Lars Eller was a happy guy at practice after being reunited with Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk on the Kid Line (or EGG Line) that was successful together earlier in the season.

“We know each other very well and we’re very comfortable playing with each other. I look forward to Saturday,” Eller told reporters after practice. “I always like playing with those two. We have fun playing together and have different assets which gel well together. We’re always creating scoring chances out there, and when you do that the goals will follow.”

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Vanek
Briere-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Moen-Prust-Weise
Bourque-White-Parros

Markov-Emelin
Bouillon-Subban
Murray-Tinordi
Weaver

It will be a busy weekend for the Canadiens, who will travel to Buffalo after Saturday’s game and face the Sabres Sunday night (7 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690). 

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

Price on brink of return to lineup, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Eller happy as Kid Line reunited, by Dave Stubbs

Galchenyuk should have a bigger role, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk are three of a kind, Canadiens.com

Post-practice interviews (video), Canadiens.com

Games against Wings could be key for Habs, by Pat Hickey

Tiffany Parros has fashion – and business – sense, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

This week’s HI/O Show highlights

Bourque is Habs’ multi-million dollar question, CBC.ca

Lehner could get the call in Montreal for Senators, Ottawa Citizen

752 Comments

  1. Habfan10912 says:

    Another concussion hits the Pens. This time its Neal.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=709466

  2. rhino514 says:

    I think if you are a Webber (especially) or Diaz type player, you actually should try and be more offensive. I think what happens is they show some promise, then they start getting hit alot, and they put the reigns on their offensive game, they lose confidence. They shouldn´t really try to be come defensive defensemen, though of course they have to improve that part of their game.
    Guys like the Swiss misters, if they had just a bit more confidence and worked on their strengths of skating and passing, could actually be pretty effective players. Webber always had the added advantage that he has a bullet of a shot whereas diaz doesn´t.

  3. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ Canadien errant

    In response to your post below.

    1) Yannick Weber is the Swedish version of MA Bergeron…at best.
    It has little to do with ” Colin Campbell’s SmashUp Derby NHL” and everything to do with overall D skill and hockey IQ.
    He brings little to nothing in terms of what’s needed for a complete Dman.

    And no, it’s not all about size and hitting, yet a Dman has to have some defensive skill and if not, he had better have control of the puck/game like an Eric Karlsson. Weber does not/never did.

    Size? Bruins Dman Torey Krug puts that argument to bed.
    Krug is only 5’9″-181, (imagine a Bruins Dman that size) yet he can play – is superbly gifted on the PP, and is learning the 200 ft. game and is also not frightened of blocking a shot.

    3) The Sedins are true pros-classy, and few would doubt are/have been the Nucks heart and soul.
    That mentioned, the team will regret the 4 year/$7M per year extensions they gave to these soon to be 34 year olds that comes into effect only next year.

    These guys have a lot of miles and injuries (beat up bodies) on them including 99 tough playoff games, and while they can still play the game, they are now far away from their elite years of 2010-11.
    The crazy travel/time zone shifts also caused wear and tear.

    Both Daniel and Henrik are on pace for 50-55 point seasons – well below their 104 and 112 point season only 3 years ago.
    Can they bounce back?
    Maybe, yet those contracts will prove to be overpayments for future returns.

    4) You mention, ” The galling thing is that when the Canucks were negotiating with Mr. Garrison, they had to leave Sami Salo twisting in the wind, asking him to wait and they’d make him an offer.”

    While the Nucks had exclusive rights to negotiate with Salo until July 1st, he wasn’t left twisting in the wind.
    This is the business part of hockey.

    The facts will also show that both guys signed on Day 1 of Free Agency, and Salo – who was going to turn 38 years old, did very well scooping a 2/$7.5M contract with Tampa.

    Garrison was only 27 at that time and has already given the Nucks some good years.
    This year, he has 7 goals/32 points which is on track for his best offensive NHL year…and remember, he was coming off a 16 goal season from Florida – 3rd best in the NHL that year behind only Karlsson and Shea Weber.
    The tradeoff for youth was a no brainer

  4. Habfan17 says:

    So, the great Therrien is at it again!

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcDBA?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=montreal-canadiens

    So, we all know what happened when Eller was moved to the wing the first time., so the great Therrien and his ego decides that since he can make Subban a better person, he can make Eller a winger.

    Bergevin signs Briere to add clutch scoring and The great Therrien says, here you go, play on the 4th line and in 9 minutes or less, provide clutch scoring.

    Bournival gets an opportunity on the 2nd line alongside Pleks and Gio, point Therrien, he does very well, his reward, demoted to the 4th line, 5 points taken away from Therrien.

    The best line to start the season, Gal27, Eller, Gal11, hmmm, DD sucks, I am going to use my magic to make DD a better player and break up my best productive line

    Last season, the great Therrien institutes a system that exploits the speed and skill of the team, an aggressive, moderate puck possession system, they are producing 5 on 5.
    This season, with what should have been a better team, he goes back to the old ” don’t want to lose system ” and 5 on 5 scoring disappears and the power play once ranked 3rd overall, drops to 14th. ( NHL.com ) The penalty kill, once in the mid 90% area has dropped to 84.7%, still good enough for 5th overall.

    Every player has to learn to play with other players and adjust. Not so for Pleks and Gio, or DD and Patches. I am sure that causes issues with the other players.

    The young players have a bad game, they either sit or get demoted, Gio has multiple bad games, he never sits or gets demoted.

    Everyone watching the Habs games see that Emelin struggles mightily on the right side, yet Therrien, the better player maker, keeps putting him there!

    Galchenyuk is the most talented player on the team and a centre, he does not get prime time or get to play centre. He needs to be sheltered! Baloney, tell that to Roy ( McKinnon ) and Horachek, ( Barkov ), and many more.

    I could go on, but will end with Vanek, as the link posted at the beginning, The great ego Therrien, owner of multiple Stanley Cup rings, oops, no Stanley Cup rings, says ” Vanek must make adjustments to his game ” So, a big trade to bring in scoring, for a player who consistently puts up points and is a veteran, needs to change his game. The chimp from Disney’s “The Barefoot Executive ” could do a better job running this team.

    Now with Price out, Therrien has been exposed!!!!

    Habfan17

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning Steve. What a great critique on Therrien’s job thus far.

      I keep telling myself that this roster is flawed but a lot of the teams poor play can be laid at the coaches hands and you’ve provided a few example of these.

      Do you think Bergevin is seeing the same things?

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      G’Morning 17

      No doubt there has been some weird, difficult to understand stuff going on.

      Unfortunately, we the fans, have little to zero access to all the information of the room – the overall dynamic – the players personal lives and habits, or ‘strategy’….or the real ‘whys’ of leaving a Nathan Beaulieu in Hamilton…
      Lots of stuff goes on behind the scenes that mainstream media doesn’t touch, yet alternate media do…such as a Chuckie mini car accident at 1:30 AM in the morning a few days ago.

      If you can read French
      http://www.danslescoulisses.com/fr/aujourdhui-chez-canadien-alex-galchenyuk-frappe-vehicule-deneigement-voiture-en-pleine-nuit/

      CH24 is a made for TV show and in few ways reflects the true realities.

      To be honest, we can rewind the tape as much as we wish, yet perhaps it may be better to look forward to the next 19 games and see how all of this pans out.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Good morning MR,

        You are right, I just go on what I see when I watch and the numbers. They all point to poor coaching in my opinion and demonstrates Therrien’s inability to adjust and create a system that exploits the players, instead he nullifies the strengths of the players to the point, they regress. Just look at how many players are having off seasons at the same time. That is very rare!

        Habfan17

  5. Un Canadien errant says:

    Some notes on tonight’s defeat of the Canucks against the Capitals.

    1) Yannick Weber again was in the lineup as the seventh defenceman/12th forward. He didn’t have much ice time, playing less than 10 minutes, but looked skillful and assured when playing the point on the powerplay. He got off a few shots and was impressive walking the line and dealing the puck to the open man.

    It looks like this may be his ceiling in Colin Campbell’s SmashUp Derby NHL, which is too bad, since he can actually carry the puck and pass and shoot, but he can’t crosscheck or elbow with the likes of Mark Stuart and Eric Gryba. So he doesn’t get to play, but they do.

    2) As an illustration of my very casual expertise when it comes to the Canucks, let me offer the fact that I don’t really know the difference between Jannik Hansen, Jordan Shroeder, and Nicklas Jensen (yes, I had to look up their names to spell them correctly). In my mind, they’re nebulously the same player, kind of slender, kind of fast, not bruisers or bangers. They’re the reason why the Canucks felt they could let Mason Raymond walk in free agency, they had the ‘speedster with wooden hands’ angle covered with these three.

    3) Henrik Sedin is impressive. He’s stoically excellent, always working hard, not giving up on himself or his team or the season. Even down Ryan Kesler and Daniel Sedin, and devoid of the quality goaltending the team had last season, and things looking grim for the ‘Nucks, I never saw him give any less than 100% effort in this game.

    4) Jason Garrison, who was brought in to great fanfare as a free agent from the Florida Panthers, is on third pairing playing with Ryan Stanton, a guy the Canucks got from the Blackhawks on waivers at the start of the season. At $4.6M for another four seasons, that’s pretty expensive for a #5 defenceman.

    The galling thing is that when the Canucks were negotiating with Mr. Garrison, they had to leave Sami Salo twisting in the wind, asking him to wait and they’d make him an offer. Knowing full well that he could be left without a chair when the music stopped, the latter decided to accept an offer from the Lightning and not wait for a putative offer from Mike Gillis. At the time, once Jason Garrison was in the bag, the departure of Sami Salo was rationalized in Vancouver, he was pretty brittle after all, struggling to stay healthy, and his input on the powerplay would be replaced by the former Panther’s big bomb from the point.

    It hasn’t worked out that way. For some reason, Jason Garrison hasn’t been as effective with the Canucks’ powerplay, at times he’s really struggled to get his shot through. He’s a leftie and Sami was a rightie, and a right-handed shot seemed to work better with the Sedin brothers’ preferences, and Ryan Kesler’s tendency to lurk in the faceoff circle to the goalie’s right, ready for a one-timer.

    We bellyache about some of the problems with the Canadiens’ roster and salary-cap situation, but most if not all teams have these. The Canucks have four defencemen who are dependable and can play quality minutes, all wrapped up for a few more seasons at relatively reasonable cap hits around $5M per season. But it’s not perfect, the fans think they’re paying too much for what they’re getting, and that they need another rightie, they’re having to use young Chris Tanev too much too soon, since he’s the only rightie other than Kevin Bieksa.

    Very rare will be the team that has Mike Babcock’s desired symmetry on the blue line. And for those who think Kevin Bieksa can be swindled from the Canucks this summer, since they’re on the rebuild, that’s being optimistic. For them to let go his combination of leadership, toughness, and potent mix of offence and defence, and deprive themselves of his services on the right side, the returns will have to colossal.

    5) David Booth. Sigh, David Booth. He’s the Canucks’ René Bourque, in that he’s a bigger scoring winger by reputation, but if anything they have given up on him to a degree greater than we have with René. He’s due another $4.25M next season, and most believe he’ll be bought out.

    It’s not like he’s not talented. He’s had two 20-goal seasons, and one 30-goals season. Since he’s joined the Canucks though, he’s declined steadily, precipitously, through a combination of injuries and poor relationship with his coaches. Alain Vigneault wasn’t happy with his effort during games and practices, so you can imagine how John Tortorella feels about him.

    At the start of the season, when I wondered if the Canucks’ window to contend for the Cup could stay open for another season still, I thought that Zack Kassian and David Booth would have to be the pleasant surprises. If Zack could crash and bang and put it all together, including his sweet hands, and if David Booth could just give a steady twenty-goal contribution like he’s shown he could, then the Canucks had a shot. If he could recapture some of the magic he had for a brief while with Ryan Kesler and Chris Higgins on the ‘American Express’ line, that would take some of the pressure off the Sedin line to do everything themselves.

    Instead, he’s been injured again this year, and when healthy has often been chained up to Torts’ dog house. On one shift in the second period, he won the foot race to negate an icing call against his team, and had the inside position to gather the puck behind the Caps’ net. Instead of banking with speed and trying to pick up and protect the puck, he took two glances over his shoulder at the Caps’ defenceman, and seemed more concerned with protecting himself. Sure enough, he lost the puck. Later on, he was standing alone in front of the net and got a bobbling puck on his stick. He had time, but he ineffectually batted the puck right on Jaro Halak’s pads. Not that this was an easy play to make, but if he’s not going to muck and grind in the corners, he better pot some goals. We’ll forgive a few soft plays from Michael Ryder if he cashes in some chances on a regular basis, but not when he grows cold.

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    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  6. Couldn’t sleep, so I figured I’d see what the Gazette pros were saying about this years version of the pathetic Canadiens. Yup, that’s where I’m at and wouldn’t ya know it, there he was. MT just blah, blah, blahing away about Price day to day and everyone lapping it up.
    last
    OK, I’m not unrealistic. I know Bergevin has a tough job. WIth few scoring prospects in Hamilton, he has to work with what he has, but anyone who knows hockey can tell you that this team is in a total funk. Except for Gallagher. Love that kid!

    I watched the Rangers last night and for a team that was supposedly out of it earlier this year, you could see the chemistry. At least last night. Were quick to jump on Budaj and that isn’t fair, since when we came back, he played well for the first four games, then guess what? The defense in front of him fell apart and he started letting in one maybe two softies a game. So what? How many goals haven’t we scored in that time.

    Everyone is also praying that Price comes back. Again, so what. He has been inconsistent his whole career. He can play shut down, but he isn’t the answer. The attitude, chemistry and killer instinct that makes a winning team isn’t there.

    Gotta look to the coaching staff sapping the will out of these athletes. I really don’t like MT. Never did. He has some quality assets and was supposed to have been a coach that can develop rookie talent. He has only quashed that talent, Eller, PK, Gally. You name it.

    I read some time ago about how a coach is perhaps responsible for maybe a 10% improvement in wins over a season, or losses if they are bad. That’s malarky. If they keep switching line-ups, mis-handling the youth, going for too small and soft veterans (Gionta, Franky, etc…) they will lose the room and this Habs version looks like they have limited heart (heart isn’t playing 20 minutes a game, Pleks seems to not have it as he hasn’t scored in almost 20 games, need I go on) and I don’t buy that “tired” excuse MT keeps making. These are professional athletes and if the Laffs can win 3 of 4 in the West, so can the undersized surf Habs since they are supposed to be fast and skilled.

    So unfortunately, we will see (are seeing) the same late season swoon as last year and may miss the playoffs. I’d prefer that, so this version takes a hard look at MT (not that I am a proponent of switching coaches every two years and then getting another unqualified francophone to come in and do the same thing) and clean house of all the floaters. I really hate Bork, bork, bork for all his floating as an example, but there will be no takers and it’s the coaching staffs job to do the best with the assets they have.

    Rant done. Just hate it when I can’t look forward to a decent hockey game from my only dam for almost 50 years. I hate losing and especially hate it when we lost to Ottawa, Laffs, Boston, Philly who’s coming up.

    Any recommendations besides nice to see the EGG line back together for how many shifts? (That MT, boy, he’s a fast learner eh?)

    I’m speechless! 20 years and counting…

  7. Un Canadien errant says:

    Loving the revisionism, that the Canadiens “should” have moved up in the draft to nab Anthony Mantha. At the draft last June, there were lots of posters who were beating the drums for certain prospects, Samuel Morin, Anthony Mantha and Frédérik Gauthier among them, but also for guys like Kerby Rychel, J.T. Compher, Hunter Shinkaruk, Morgan Klimchuk among others.

    Picking Anthony Mantha only seems obvious now, with almost a further full season to re-evaluate. Since then he tore up the league with another 50 goal season, and looked darn good next to Jonathan Drouin at the World Junior Championship, so we’re time-machine enabled savants, second-guessing what the Canadiens did. We’re able to overlook all the scouting reports that described him at the time as inconsistent and lackadaisical at times, reports that must have struck home since he mentioned a few times during the draft leadup that he was going to work on putting out full effort every game, and to be more consistent.

    Besides that, there is clear evidence that Marc Bergevin did try to move up in the draft. In a draft-day documentary on the Columbus Blue Jackets, we see their General Manager Jarmo Kekalainen pick up a ringing phone as they’re about to make the 19th selection of the first round. He listens for a couple of seconds, then says curtly “No. We’re making the pick.” He then hangs up the phone, and when asked who was on the line, replies “Berj…”

    http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=231&id=263713&cmpid=embed-share-video

    This lines up perfectly with what Marc Bergevin explained during the post-draft media scrums. He said he tried to move up, but no one was interested in dealing, that teams wanted to keep their picks and select a player they had an eye on.

    So yeah, picking up Anthony Mantha or Valeri Nichushkin or Nikita Zadorov would have been really nice, but because of our low draft slot, and our still-depleted prospect pool, and due to a lack of a trade partner willing to move down, it wasn’t meant to be.

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    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • SlovakHab says:

      thank you.
      good post, and i enjoyed that CBJ video a lot.
      very interesting insight.

    • Paz says:

      To be sure, Mantha is a natural scorer. It’s a talent he’s always had.

      But he is lackadaisical. He is not the hardest worker. He is prone to bad shifts.

      So I still think there are questions surrounding him.

      Scorers are great.

      But when they are one dimensional, their game is open to air criticism in my opinion.

  8. Plekasuares says:

    Bouillon with Subban.

    I like this pairing. Am I the only one?

  9. Chris says:

    Nobody has any clue how Collberg is going to turn out. But do take his Swedish Elite League numbers with a huge grain of salt: he is playing for an ultra-conservative team (Frolunda) in a very conservative league. 3 goals and 9 points in 40 games looks terrible without the context of his situation: Frolunda does not believe in rushing players, preferring to let them practice with the big club but play them sparingly.

    If you look at many of the other top Swedish players in the NHL, you will see that many of them had similarly paltry numbers by the same age as Collberg.

    Regardless, you’ve got to give something valuable to get a player of Vanek’s ilk, and Collberg was the price. I think New York will be a good fit for him.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Wennberg (CBJ) has 16 goals this season on that team.
      Clearly a better player at this stage. That’s a 1st rounder with a decent top-6 potential for you.

      Collberg doesn’t seem to have as much talent. We’ll see, but he’s pretty far from a NHL scorer at the moment. Good luck to him in any case.

  10. Chris says:

    Eek…the Guelph Storm clinched the OHL regular season title tonight, but they probably didn’t make any friends, thumping the sad-sack Sarnia Sting 13-1. That was almost certainly unnecessary.

    Even worse, the Sting left Brodie Barrick in net for all 13 goals (on 61 shots on goal). You think the Sting are going to remember that one next season?

    The OHL has some pretty impressive goal-scorers eligible for the draft this summer. Robby Fabbri ran his total to 45 tonight, Michael Dal Colle (Oshawa) has 39) and Nikolay Goldobin (Sarnia) has 37.

    Compare that to some of last year’s high draft picks out of the OHL: Kerby Rychel had 40, Max Domi had 39, Bo Horvat had 33 and Sean Monahan had 31.

    Fabbri’s stock will not be as high as it should be come draft day because of his size. His offensive production is all the more amazing because he had to sit out a 10-game suspension in November for a head-shot. 45 goals in 57 games as a 17 year old is all kinds of impressive.

    But the guy I would not at all mind see Montreal draft this summer is Goldobin: he is impressive. Great speed, exceptional stick-handler and a nose for the net. If he were on any other team, he might be leading the OHL in points this season, but he’s unfortunately stuck on the Sting with no supporting cast. At 6’0″ and 185 pounds, size won’t be a problem. Goal-scoring wingers are what Montreal needs, and Goldobin might be one of the best in the draft.

    • Harditya says:

      A former teammate of Alex Galchenyuk, I wouldn’t mind seeing Goldobin in a Habs uni at all! But with the Habs likely picking in the range of 15-20 would he still be available? I know Mantha was available at no. 20 despite a 6’4” frame and scoring 50 goals, but Goldobin is also playing on a pathetic team, much like Monahan did with his junior team. That should boost his stock.

      • Chris says:

        Mantha got dinged for the bias that NHL scouts and GM’s have against the QMJHL. I will be a bit surprised if Goldobin is still around at 20. In the last CSS rankings, they had him at 14 among North American skaters, which would suggest he should be drafted somewhere in the 15-25 range, but I think he is a heck of a lot more talented than some of the OHL guys that are ranked ahead of him. Craig Button has him at #28 in his most recent rankings, which I think is a travesty. I wonder how much of his low stock is based on his being Russian.

        I would certainly take Goldobin ahead of Jared McCann. I’ve mentioned it before, but I was frequently more impressed with a 16 year old Goldobin than a 17 year old Alex Galchenyuk in the few Sarnia Sting games I watched last season.

  11. Harditya says:

    Unless he catches fire from today onwards, it seems like Louis Leblanc is a bust. Either that or he simply needs a change of scenery because he’s been pretty brutal. You would think Montreal is the most ideal place for him to shine. A 6 feet two-way center, Habs don’t have many of those in the system if any. Yet younger kids like Gallagher, Bournival, Andrighetto, have surpassed him on the depth chart. This is not good news for him with Brady Vail, Charles Hudon making the jump soon.
    And for his sake, I hope he pans out. Or a trade is made so that he gets his change of scenery to turn it around. If I remember, he preferred finishing university and graduating with a degree, but changed his decision and took the QMJHL route after 1st year due to “pressure” (assuming from Habs management). That’s quite a big decision. I hope he never regrets that and it works out.

    • Harditya says:

      “Walking away from Harvard after one year was the most difficult decision. Leblanc was working toward a business degree, something his father, a chemist, and his mother, a piano teacher, feel strongly he needs to finish.

      “They’re well educated and obviously education is important in my family,” Leblanc said. “But they support me in whatever I do and one day I’m going to go back. I still keep going with my education, I take a [business]class at McGill, so one day I want to get a degree from Harvard.” ”
      – Globe and Mail

      • CH Marshall says:

        I’m trying hard not to speculate anymore about the way things are with the Habs. But I do feel for LL and wish him success down the road

  12. HabsPooch says:

    A real barnburner in Colorado. 9 goals scored in the second period. Ducks up 6-4.

  13. Sportfan says:

    Does anyone know if Robert Rice is part of the HIO people? He’s an EOTP guy like Berkshire, but I’m just curious if he posts stuff here?

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  14. Sportfan says:

    Is Demers or Bowman busy?

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  15. The Teacher says:

    To be honest. I’m looking at 18 points over the next 10 games or so. All beatable teams. They had their swoon. Time to pick it up and they will. Why am I optimistic? I really have no clue. Just a hunch n

  16. The Teacher says:

    Four or five game streak is starting tomorrow night.

  17. CJ says:

    Well, Wings just won in a shoot out. Rangers are up 4-2 in the third, and the Capitals won earlier.

    Your move Montreal…. Time to bounce back boys. Four points this weekend.

  18. B says:

    Crisp scores his 26th but the Wolves lose 5-3 to North Bay.
    Vail gets his 32nd and an assist (no scrap though) then scores the shootout winner (3-2 over Kitchener).
    McCarron picks up an assist and the Knights win 4-2 vs Owen Sound.
    Reway picks up 3 assists in a 7-1 ‘piques win over Sherbrooke.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Forum Dog says:

      That’s exactly why losing Collberg doesn’t hurt. Especially since they are probably not going to be able to keep Vanek. There are lot’s of legitimate players in the system.

      • CJ says:

        IMO, the loss of Collberg is being massively downplayed here. I’m not suggesting he is going to set the world on fire, but it’s far too early to write him off.

        Our prospect pool has improved immensely, but we are not yet in a position where losing someone can be easily dismissed.

        Losing Collberg doesn’t hurt today, but it could have implications down the road.

        • Forum Dog says:

          I’m not trying to dismiss Collberg’s potential. He has a lot of skill and could end up being a productive top-six player. But having enough in the system to be able to swap him for a legitimate top-3 player is a good thing. Vanek is probably the most skilled forward on the Habs right now – that last game made it clear to me. If they can find a good spot for him, and Price can come back feeling good, they have a lot of tinder. They’ll just need a match.

          • CJ says:

            Fair dues. Vanek is offensively gifted. I hope he starts to get hot. He will be needed to carry this team. Far to early to say what Collberg might be, although I see potential. They had to give to get, so we really need Vanek to pull his weight to make the deal worth the cost.

        • HabsPooch says:

          Not basing my opinion solely on his stats because I have heard good things about him…but his numbers are terrible. It’s a wait and see approach but I don’t think he would be your prototypical first line right winger? And if second line right winger is his ceiling, well then we have Gallagher for that anyways and many years of him hopefully too.
          I’d like to see Bergevin take risks during the draft and try moving up and choosing some real blue chip talent. Case in point, I would have moved heaven and earth last draft to move up 6 or 7 spots and drafted Anthony Mantha. Exactly the type of first line winger we desperately need.

          • CJ says:

            I don’t think anyone would disagree with you on Mantha. It still bothers me that we picked where we did as the division winner. We could have chosen Mantha, a nice consolation prize following the loss to Ottawa. Don’t forget, the Wings were up 3-1 against the Hawks. If they would have won the series, it would have bumped us down a spot and likely cost them Mantha as they would be picking in the 27th position.

          • Stevie.Ray says:

            Collberg hasn’t really done much in the SHL but the coaches haven’t been using him at all. He’s often the 13th forward and doesn’t get much playing time. When he did get time when they had injuries he produced a little more. He’s been a PPG player over three WJC. He’s a good player. I think he’ll make the NHL as a solid second line winger.

        • Sportfan says:

          CJ I agree we shouldn’t down play Collberg, but we do have other prospects to fill his void.

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          • CJ says:

            Absolutely. Again, our depth allowed us to facilitate the move. I’m simply saying, we ought not to consider this player (Collberg) a toss in. Nothing against Forum Dog, who I regard as a very strong contributor, however I’ve read other opinions who have essentially suggested we got rid of a dud.

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          Look at his career on hockey db. Like 6 goal career high

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • 24 Cups says:

        If you rank those prospects Collberg’s worst case scenario is 2ndplace on the list. Outside of the WJC, hardly anyone has ever seen him play. It’s way too early to close the book on this Hab trade.

        The downplaying of Collberg is pure HI/O rationalization to try and justify the Vanek trade. Speaking of justification, maybe Vanek might want to start scoring some goals. Or perhaps it’s all the fault of his linemates. This weekend should tell the tale.

  19. AH says:

    So I heard today that Detroit has only 3 right handed shots on their whole team, and none on their defence. Does that support or refute the notion that players need to play their natural side?

  20. ProHabs says:

    Nice to see 6 ft 3, 230 pound Chris Kreider doing well this year. Anyone know how Louis Leblanc is making out in Hamilton.

  21. Habcouver says:

    What is the chance that Dubnyk gets a call up?

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

    • CJ says:

      Zero. Just got lit up for 4 goals on 14 shots with the Bulldogs tonight. He looked good in the first game of the weekend set last week, his first as a Bulldog, but I haven’t been impressed since. That said, Hamilton has completely imploded.

  22. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …of course, if One is not careful, good nookie can also cause a few headaches

    …but don’t let that stop You

  23. CJ says:

    Martin Reway back in a big way tonight. Three assists on all three goals.

    • HabsPooch says:

      Depends on if they’re direct setups or second assists. He’s been struggling as of late.

    • Forum Dog says:

      Loaded with skill that kid. He’ll need to play with guys who can create space though. That is the big difference between CHL, AHL and NHL. The bodies are big. Time and space is all but eliminated. Players that need it have to skate with players that can create it. Say Crisp and McCarron.

  24. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …in My experience, good nookie solves ALL problems

  25. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …take Your minds off Our Habs current suckitude …it’s Friday night

    …go chase women

  26. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Im pretty sure if Eller does not produce in these remaining games that will be the end to the Eller era MAYBE. Also, I get it Tinordi is young and all but how many goals in he going to cost us, there has been at least 2 that have been solely on him. Would rather see Beaulieu up at this point in time.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Eller for Hammuis?

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • CJ says:

      Hi Ukrainian.

      No denying that Tinordi has made mistakes. I would agree, a couple have resulted in goals against. Keep in mind, he turned 22 two weeks ago and is playing his wrong side. With all due respect, I’ve watched Emelin and Markov, who should be our 3/4 surrender worse goals, with greater frequency during this slide. Granted, they are matched against better opposition, but the point is this; there are far greater concerns then Tinordi, who is matched with our 6/7 defender – Murray.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        Good Evening Cj, you are absolutely correct. Tinordi quite possibly is one of our last worries on the blue line lately. Emelin performance for some time has been quite bad. The same could possibly be said about PK maybe.

        • CJ says:

          Agreed on all points. PK has me worried. He has all the talent in the world, but I haven’t see that edge he used to play with, in two months. I haven’t seen the ass checks, the after whistle scrums or the energy and enthusiasm he once had. I miss that guy. If we want to be anything this season, his game needs to do a 180 real fast.

          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            Could be the Therrien effect possibly. I for one, think it is more than that though.

          • CJ says:

            Sadly, as much as I wish this wasn’t the case, I agree. There is more to this than coaching. I know people here thought I was crazy, but Pietrangelo is the better player, signed long term, for a much better dollar value ($6.5 million). IMO, based on his play, PK is not worth $8 million a season. I understand you pay for potential, but this is going to be a challenging negotiation. The next six months will determine the next 2-3 years of the franchise. Gionta, Markov, PK…. This is going to be a very interesting offseason.

  27. jimmy shaker says:

    Why did pedneault leave houde and rds? They were great!

    Shaker out!

  28. Blondie says:

    Off-topic and for those older posters; HIFI is showing a Bad Company concert from August ’08 right now.

    Cheers!

  29. jimmy shaker says:

    Just watching our old friend Jaro vs the nucks on rds and they showed tom stestito leading the league in PIMS at 182…….I laughed because I remember since I started watching hockey in 86 and with the aid of the internet that leaders in pims through out the years have regularly been in the 350 min and up, up until the 97/98 season. It has drastically changed since then. Okay carry on everyone…..jsut and FYI

    Shaker out!

  30. The Jackal says:

    Is MT still the coach?

  31. habsfan0 says:

    It now appears that the earliest that Carey Price will return is Sunday night vs the Sabres.
    I wonder if MT will give Dustin Tokarski a start vs the Senators?

  32. HabsFansince49 says:

    It’s March 14th and we finally have some lines that make sense. Thank God – the EGG line is re-united. Eller seemed pretty excited. Why shouldn’t he be, poor guy, after what he has been through – death by poor coaching! But now is the time to move on, MT and all.

    • Mark C says:

      Please. Eller has produced less than 4th line goons for months. It can’t just be the line or coaching. Most of Eller’s crap play is on him. I like him as a player, but why is there so much excuse making on his behalf?

      On the west coast trip in a four period stretch he had more penalties than points since Christmas. But it’s all MT fault. C’mon now.

  33. Phil C says:

    These lines are an improvement. The biggest concern is that Tinordi-Murray pairing. Not exactly putting Tinordi in a great position to succeed as a rookie.

    I wonder which line will see second wave of the PP?

    • frontenac1 says:

      Hey Mike! Didn’t know you were a fan of Joel”The Animal ” Theriault? Gaby gave him a good go eh? I posted one off the Animal”s tilts with Nasty Mirasty this week. Check it out. It’s a corker. Saludos!

      • CJ says:

        Hey Front, if you want an LNAH treat, check out Steve Bosse vs Jon Mirasty. Probably the best series of fights since Ward vs Gotti.

        • frontenac1 says:

          I check the LNAH fights every morning amigo. There are some beauties. I will check Bosse tomorrow. Hey check out Francis Lessard”s Bout with Nasty from Nov 8,2013. Dancing with the Devil? You bet. Saludos!

          • CJ says:

            I’ve seen Lessard with the Cornwall River Kings. Bosse Mirasty was a war waged over a series of fights. You will enjoy partner. Cheers, CJ

          • frontenac1 says:

            Will do CJ! Hey, a local guy I know, Brett Angel was playing for the River Kings this season and was traded to Valleyfield recently. He fought Nasty twice this season, lost both and fought the Aniimal twice,lost one and won one. He used to run a summer hockey camp here in Kingston for Bantam players with Kip Brennan if you can believe it. It was hilarious. Great guys. Saludos!

        • Wintercount says:

          Marquez vs “Pac man”

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Noooooooo no no no!
        Not a fan!
        Saw the clip on a non-hockey site.
        Sláinte, Front.

  34. jimmy shaker says:

    @ Timo:

    Check out my response to your question about the last game the habs won and won decisively. There might be one other game since then, but I’m not sure!

    Shaker out!

  35. skoalbandit says:

    So much negativity here.
    Carey Price gives this team a chance to win EVERY game. When he is back this will continue. Right now without him they are simply are not getting the goaltending to keep them in games. A couple weak goals a game deflate the whole team. This is exactly what i expected with price out of the lineup, especially during the toughest stretch of games this year.
    Take a deep breath and hope for his return so we can make the playoffs and compete in the first round…did anyone really expect a stanley cup contender this year?
    Be a real fan and enjoy the roller coaster that is this season!

    • Ktowner says:

      I agree with you about Price however, a team needs to score in order to have a chance. The current coach doesn’t seem to know how to put together a system to do that.

  36. Mavid says:

    Cannot wait to see the EGG line back together (finally) and I hope Price is playing..time to spank some Senaturds I would love to be the dagger that pretty much ends any hope of them making the playoffs

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  37. theox_8 says:

    If Vanek re- signs in Montreal , I will personally go streaking down St. Catherine street . That’s how much confidence I have he probably won’t and would rather be in Long Island at the moment .

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      [Right! Enough from me and off to bed after a microscopic sleep last night and it 11.30 here already. I was still chuckling to myself over how clever I was with this now deleted post when I suddenly realised I got it completely backwards. Or “arse-wise” as they say over here. Good night all. Don’t worry, be happy.”

  38. Dunboyne Mike says:

    I’m slow catching up today, so forgive me if I repost some HIO gold from earlier:

    TIMO: What’s a Possession Defenceman?

    SMARTDOG: They play like they’re possessed.

    MATTYLEG: A defenceman with lots of possessions.
    They’re also called Materialistic Defencemen.

    (there was also a genuine and useful definition provided, but I just love these ones so much!)

  39. D Mex says:

    Just when it appeared certain * nothing * could rival the buffoonery of putting tight underwear on a head to post on a hockey blog, along comes something even weirder :

    ” What do you get by adding a Playboy model, a photo shoot and an inconveniently-placed golf tee together? A whole-lotta pain and a $500,000 lawsuit, of course. ”
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/teed-off-model-sues-playboy-using-her-bottom-180500519.html

    :lol:

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  40. CJ says:

    Shifting focus, we are very close to prime college UFA signing period. Within the next 2-3 weeks you are likely to see pro teams swoop in and sign free agents.

    It would be great if we could find a Torey Krug. I know the odds are long, but a Jesse Winchester is worth the pro contract. Something to keep an eye on.

    I’ve also had an eye on Marcus Power. Maybe it’s a small consolation, taking my mind off the Habs for a night, but I love watching, reading and studying prospects. Hopefully we can find one or two this spring.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Are the habs ever in the mix for any of these players? I never here a link between them ever. The last time I heard a possible link to someone was that brunnstrom guy and the habs were a long shot at best. By the way, was he ever a bust or what?

      Shaker out!

  41. Ktowner says:

    So it seems that most of us agree that MT has to go and likely will.
    That said who are possible candidates for his replacement?
    I’ve read about some who think Carbo would be good, Front would rather see Muller (as would I). Are there others out their in hockey land? Babcock knew how to use Price and manage his bench full of superstars. Too bad he is under contract for another couple of years.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Carbo at least let his team play an entertaining brand of hockey, but his coaching experience is still very limited–it’s not like he’s been honing his craft in the minors since he was fired–and I’m not sure he’s got what it takes to lead this team to glory.

      I think we really missed the boat with Roy. He’s maybe a better fit on a younger club like Colorado’s, but I can’t help but think there would be more fire in this team if he were in charge.

      • Ktowner says:

        I didn’t mind Carbo but I do prefer Muller mainly because of a couple of mutual friends and the way he connects with players. I agree with you about Roy, however even with the less than youthful team in Montreal he would have done a much better job than MT.

  42. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS – SPLITTING HAIRS VERSION!
    1. With Price playing what are the odds we make the playoffs? (Keep in mind that Price has never scored a goal.)
    2. We’re near the bottom of the league in 5-on-5 scoring. If you had to lay that at the feet of Therrien, or Bergevin, or the players (just one), where would you put it?
    3. With so many guys playing their off wing… is that a Therrien problem or a Bergevin problem?
    4. If we get in the playoffs, what are the odds we can win a round?
    5. Why is PK not playing like a Norris candidate? Is it Therrien holding the reigns? Post-Olympic letdown? Or…?
    SD
    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Timo says:

      1. Higher but still not guaranteed. For all we know Price may come back and NOT steal games
      2. Bergevin… he is the one that hired Therrien
      3. Bergevin… he is the one that hired Therrien
      4. Next to none
      5. Bergevin… he is the one that hired Therrien

    • Sportfan says:

      1. a lot higher than they are now
      2. This shouldn’t be a question it is MT 100% there are enough guys who know how to score he just let’s the useless ones more time. He is stubborn and is flat out an awful coach.
      3. MT
      4. With Price in and PK playing normally and the other good ones performing than the world is out oyster. If Price isn’t on top of his game well, luckily baseball will be in full swing.
      5. Sochi plus MT, plus Bouillon as his partner = bad

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  43. jimmy shaker says:

    10 wins, just 10 wins out of the last 15 and everything will be fine. Okay Pricer, buckle up, this may get bumpy!

    Shaker out!

  44. Timo says:

    Who remembers the last time Habs decisively won a hockey game?

  45. Danno says:

    What exactly is this mysterious lower-body injury Price is recovering from and how did it happen?

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  46. habsfan1001 says:

    Eller should be quiet, MT will break them up if he thinks they like playing together, which they should have been all season

  47. Storm Man says:

    MT has no clue how to coach stars as his EGO gets in the way.

    • crane says:

      How did this clown idiot ever be coach.He tells star scoring forward to change his game.It’s pretty funny Vanek getting 50 million from somebody not to change his game.

  48. Storm Man says:

    MB is going to have a VERY hard time to land any top UFA with MT as coach.

    • johnnylarue says:

      He doesn’t exactly sweeten the deal, does he?

      “So… who do you imagine I would play with, coach?”

      “What do you mean? You’re a forward–you’ll play with the forwards! All of them.”

  49. Slackman says:

    Those lines look good. Bring on the Sens.

    “When the going get’s weird, the weird turn pro”

  50. CharlieH24 says:

    Does anyone think that centering Plekanec between gionta and briere is a waste of his talent?

    • I’m starting to lose patience, too. Therrien: Vanek Must ‘Make Some Adjustments’

      Does that mean register for the MT patented personal improvement plan and stop scoring?

      http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/therrien-vanek-must-make-some-adjustments-to-his-game/
      Defense wins championships

      “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

      • Timo says:

        Bergevin must kiss the idea of re-signing Vanek goodbye. (but perhaps he didn’t have an idea to begin with)

        • CharlieH24 says:

          “But at times you’ve got to adjust with the players that you’ve got and put together lines that you think will give you success as a team.”

          So taking the little engine that could (Gally) off a line that has had the most success this season and putting Vanek on his off-wing on that line guarantees success? Why not stick with 67-51-11 and put Vanek on his natural left side with Plekanec and AG27…but no, using logic has proven too difficult for MT. What a joke of a coach this guy is.

          I hope I eat my words, but I don’t think I will be. And what’s up with 48-14-21 playing on the same line…is MT intentionally trying to get them pushed around for the whole game? That is the smallest line I have ever seen.

          • SlovakHab says:

            Dude, you got it all wrong.Fwd lines are all right, defence worries me much more.

            Besides, Vanek is okay on RW, but Galchenyuk isn’t. So Vanek – Plekanec – Galchenyuk wouldn’t work, unless Vanek is RW. In which case, let’s leave him in full-offense line with Pacioretty and DD.

            EGG line is good.

            Briere has performed very well with Plekanec and Gionta in the past.

            Forward lines are all right.

      • stephen says:

        I don’t have the energy to find it again, but I think it was an article by Brian Wilde (CTV) the other day, in which he suggested Therrien is poor at allowing stars to be stars, or something to that effect.

        I evidently don’t know the first thing about coaching an NHL team, but I would tend to agree with this idea.

        He is perhaps too determined to fit the players into a certain game, rather than mold the game to best exploit his players’ talents.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Hey Charlie.
      If Bournival is good to go, I’d like to see him on that line instead of Briere.

      • CharlieH24 says:

        Hey Mike, absolutely, I think Bournival would bring a lot to that line. But then where do you slot in Briere to get him going? Assuming we need him to become the point-per-game playoff performer that he is.

        This team is just a cluster**** of inefficiency and streakiness, combined with bad coaching. 80% through the season and we just broke up our top line…

    • crane says:

      gionta should sit for bournival

    • Sportfan says:

      MT is a waste of the whole teams talent

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  51. Storm Man says:

    In want to take bill 101 and shove it up someone’s ass.

  52. Storm Man says:

    Why would you want to trade PK? Get rid of the 4th rate coach we have.

  53. RetroMikey says:

    With Price in the lineup, he will steal the team some good W’s down the stretch.
    Meh!
    The team is still in turmoil and I just laugh at fans like Hab in Burlington thinking if he comes back , the problems are solved with the teams’s woes!
    We are and always will be bottom feeder dwellers if major changes are not made?
    Anybody crapping their diapers like Cal on this site and foaming from the mouth now realizing the Leafs are for real and will be ready for prime time playoffs!?
    Face it Cal, suck it up pops!

    • bwoar says:

      You stink like a sneaker and aren’t even funny while doing it. Flush.

      • D Mex says:

        Wow ! Refs to diapers and ” bottom feeder dwellers ” … I’ve never heard of this before – is it what results from wearing underwear on the head so tight that blood & oxygen supply to the brain are interrupted ?
        Diapers we all get, tho : take Bwoar’s advice – phew !

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

  54. metropolitfan says:

    Re : Beaulieu

    I read somewhere (here?) a couple of weeks ago that NB showed some divaesque behaviour in Hamilton after being sent back and that that is is why he has not been called back.

    • bwoar says:

      Yep. Bang on metropolitfan.

      But, it’s easiest to call the coach and GM names and lose it on the organization than to admit that the kid needs “encadrement”, the kind of which we didn’t have previously, and which we lamented the lack of for years. His dad is an obvious goofball, so, it looks like the org needs to raise the kid. Maybe?

      Frankly it’s just another topic for the bitchers to bitch about. Thank you for posting something worthwhile on the subject.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        You guys are right, it IS an interesting topic.
        We fans are liable to have very unreasonable expectations as to the ease with which these young men should become instant professionals both on and off the ice. Hopefully they have some skill in Hamilton for addressing this perennial issue.

      • boing007 says:

        He’s still a good player who could help the team in Montreal. Who’s acting like a spiteful child in this scenario?

        Richard R

  55. Habfan17 says:

    More proof Therrien is a poor coach. Bergevin trades to get a proven scorer and now Mr. Character shaper says Vanek has to change his game…hmmmm Why bring him in? Then they point out he has not had top line minutes…sheesh! Does an anvil need to fall on Therrien’s head?

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcDBA?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=montreal-canadiens

    Habfan17

  56. The Teacher says:

    Yay just scored a free ticked to the game tomorrow. :)

  57. Ktowner says:

    We need wins and soon but the worse thing MT could do is bring Price back too soon. He is the franchise right now and needs to heal completely for the playoff drive (assuming there is still one going).

  58. B says:

    EGG Line production before being split up:
    40 points in 21 games
    18 points in the first 4 games (Habs won 2 of those 4)
    8 points in game 18 (a 4-2 win over NYI)
    14 points in the other 16 games (Habs were 7-7-2)

    The Habs using the EGG line were 10-9-2 (.523)

    After splitting up the EGG line, they didn’t lose in the next 11 games going 10-0-1 (.945)

    Overall after the EGG line was split up, 25-16-5 (.597)

    Overall on the season the Habs are 35-25-7 (.575)

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • JohnInTruro says:

      B, does this mean you don’t want them together? I do personally. I don’t think the team’s overall success can be blamed on this line being together. Two sophomores make up that line, the slump is a given…

  59. JF says:

    Glad to see those lines. think they give us our best chance of scoring a few more goals; and if anything can get Eller going and salvage something from this disappointing season, it should be playing alongside the guys with whom he had success earlier in the season.

    As for Price, it sucks that there is no date yet for his return, but the last thing they should do is rush him. Budaj hasn’t been great, but he hasn’t been the reason we’re not winning. He’s played well enough to win a couple of those games if we could score a few goals here and there.

  60. SteverenO says:

    Some good discussion here about stats, advanced stats and possession stats versus visual evidence such as crease clearing, etc. specifically relating to Douglas Murray

    Here is my view: There is really only ONE stat that is meaningful, GOALS. To determine a players value it is best to look at how often his team scores, and gives up goals, when he is on the ice versus how they do when he is NOT on the ice:

    At even strength, overall the Habs this season have averaged one goal scored every 33.12 minutes and one goal allowed every 27.84 minutes.
    With Murray Not on the ice:
    the average is One GF every 30.45, and one GA 29.1 minutes.

    Lets look at Murray”s numbers:
    527 minutes ES TOI – 9 goals scored and 23 goals allowed
    AVG:= 58.5 Mins per GF & 23 Mins per GA

    Here are Murray’s numbers when playing WITHOUT Beaulieu as his partner:

    457 minutes ES TOI – 6 goals scored and 22 goals allowed
    AVG:= 76.17 Mins per GF & 20.78 Mins per GA

    With Beaulieu as his partner:

    70 minutes ES TOI – 3 goals scored and 1 goals allowed
    AVG:= 23.33 Mins per GF & 70 Mins per GA.

    It should be obvious to everyone, ESPECIALLY MT and MB that playing Murray WITHOUT Beaulieu is a mistake, a huge mistake.

    When Murray is on the ice (without Beaulieu) it”s as if we are shorthanded, The other team may or may not score , be the Habs will almost never put a puck in the the opponents net.

    So if the team employed a professional data analyst they would be advised as follows:
    If you want Murray”s crease clearing and physical presence on the ice he must be paired with Beaulieu. Having Murray in the lineup WITHOUT Beaulieu is too much of a liability and will have a negative impact on the teams chances to win games.

    read full article here: http://www.hockeydata-central.com/blog/

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      It’s a no brainer that you have to put someone mobile with Murray because he is so slow. Even so, you will never have any offense with Murray on the ice. Most offense nowadays is created with D-men pinching in. A mobile D-man can’t risk pinching in with Murray because there is no way he can get back in time. I rather have Tinordi take his spot when Gorges comes back.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Are you familiar with the concept of a confidence interval?

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

      • SteverenO says:

        @dipsy :

        Yes. I have heard that “small sample size” argument ad infinitum. What is teh coach basing his decisions on? does he have some larger data set that he is drawing on to make decisions?

        I am not willing to concede that Therrien has some innate ability to recognize if and when the statistics are skewed due to small sample size. I would prefer that he continue to use the players and combos that have been productive until the numbers indicate that they are no longer effective. His current modus operandi is to change personnel and line combinations perpetually without regard to performance and production.

        While past performance is not always an accurate indicator of future results, does anyone really believe that Therrien has some special insight and ability to predict how a player or combination is going to perform that is likely to produce a better result than simply making decisions based on the available data?

        Just to make a point about your confidence interval…. if Beaulieu plays with Murray for the next 8 games and they log 100 minutes of ES ice time allowing 8 GA without the team scoring a single goal – the combination of Murray-Beaulieu would STILL be the more effective than any other partner with Murray. Should that happen it would be time to make adjustments. The obvious adjustment would be to have Murray sit and keep Beaulieu out there, playing with someone who could skate well enough to keep up with the play

        regards,

        Steve O.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      not even close to a large enough sample size to draw from, 70 minutes of time together, not to mention the fact that he will be used in different situations when playing with Beaulieu.

  61. theox_8 says:

    Appalled on here reading some people are having second thoughts about Subban . Sure he is having a rough stretch , every athlete goes through it . Same posters probably wanted patches traded out of town for a bag of pucks . Could you even imagine our D without Subban , probably be worse than the oilers back end .

  62. HABSnEXPOS says:

    Briere-Plekanec-Gionta should be together but as third liners since all three have a hard time scoring.

    • SteverenO says:

      The truth is that the trio of Briere -Plekanec-Gionta have been the BEST offensive and defensive combination on the team this season.

      here are the numbers:
      Briere/Plek/Gionta: ES TOI 174 Mins: GF= 10 GA = 1 (+9)
      AVG= One GF every 17.4 minutes one GA every 174 Mins

      MaxPac/DD/Gallgher; ES TOI 484 Mins: GF= 24 GA = 26 (-2)
      AVG= One GF every 20 minutes one GA every 18.61 Mins

      Which line would you rather give more ice time to?

      regards,

      Steve O.

      http://www.hockeydata-central.com/blog/

  63. scavanau says:

    Just got a call from a friend, he landed 2 front row club seating tickets…
    I’ll see you all in Montreal tomorrow!

    • CJ says:

      Sweet! Bring your appetite. Club Desjardins are wicked seats.

      • scavanau says:

        Had them before. Very nice.

        Last Ottawa at Montreal game I went to we wound up with Geoff Molson’s seats. They went into circulation by accident, he gave the tix to some friends. We got booted, reimbursed, food vouchers and watched the game from the press area. His friends left the game in the middle of the 2nd. Our rinkside seats stayed vacant the rest of the game…

        We won in a shoot out.

  64. rhino514 says:

    Isn´t it a bit weird that Therrien reunites the EGG line near the end of the season?
    I mean, let´s say they kick butt….Basically, it´s an admission you´ve stifled the offene for like 65 games.

    • shiram says:

      “euh yess, I put Gally with Davey and Maxy cause I knew he needed to learn from them, so now he can go back and give hockey lessons to Larsy and Chucky. That was the plan all along. Next question.”

  65. Luke says:

    @Twi:

    I ran everyday last summer,. From May 24 to Labour day. I’m going to do that again this year.
    I’d been running fairly regularly until that -40 degree garbage the winter handed us. Hadn’t run since than.
    Time to get back at it…

    Starting tomorrow… the pub is calling me today!

  66. C-Sword says:

    Bourque has 3 goals in 10 playoff games, 2 of them happened to be against the Sens last year.

  67. C-Sword says:

    Problem I have with Eller is that he keeps the puck for too long, he needs to make quick passes and skate his way to the net.

  68. Dunboyne Mike says:

    I am re-posting Shiram’s link to the Nicklas Backstrom story. He was awarded his silver medal.

    My heart goes out to him. He might not have made any difference, but in fact that’s something we’ll never know now. Surely Swedish hockey must still be furious.

    And the IOC is talking out of both sides of its mouth.

    http://espn.go.com/olympics/hockey/story/_/id/10607579/nicklas-backstrom-get-silver-medal-drug-test

  69. Luke says:

    I’m moving this over to this new Page:

    To Burly and all the Beer folks near and far:

    There’s a Craft Beer Festival in Niagara Falls in a couple of weeks.
    (Look, it’s Evidence: http://www.realcanadianbeerfest.ca/)

    (Also as a side note: My local pub is getting Beau’s on tap. Style to vary).

  70. SC-24 says:

    Tomorrow night will be a Barn burner anybody’s game neither team is very good. we’ll have to see how the genius’s lines work out!!

  71. Huh says:

    Can someone please throw Bourque in the garbage already? Like why’s this guy even around?

    • BriPro says:

      Ever tried to pick up an immoveable object?
      And I don’t just mean on the ice….
      Even with exerted centrifugal force and a few torn tendons, I can’t move the guy.

  72. twilighthours says:

    @Matty,

    didn’t respond earlier. Watching movies with my daughter.

    I’m just trumpeting the analytics line on possession metrics. Not saying I agree.

    While they seem to make sense, and I’d rather be a team that always outshoots its opponent, I always need to remember this sobering fact: possession measurements told us that Gomez was an effective player.

  73. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …is it only Me that feels overwhelmed in depression seeing Boullion’s name among Our D, and not Beaulieu ?

    …when I do, I have that Groundhog Day feeling, and just dejectedly return to My hole to slumber

    • Al Burtlap says:

      Definitely not only you! I am still perplexed at the decision to leave Beaulieu in Hamilton – though i had a theory rolling around my head last night that perhaps Therrien is actually just being all ironical and stuff by teaching Beaulieu a lesson by leaving him in a far less beau lieu in Hamilton than Montréal…

      That’ll learn him!

    • CJ says:

      I feel like I’ve beaten this horse to death…..

      It just doesn’t make sense to me.


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