Podcast: Can Canadiens land Pierre-Luc Dubois at NHL Entry Draft?

The Canadiens hold the No. 9 overall pick in the first round of the NHL Entry Draft slated for Friday night in Buffalo.

Will Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin try to make a deal to move up? If he does, Pierre-Luc Dubois could be the player the GM has his sights on. In 62 games this season with the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles of the QMJHL, the 6-foot-2, 201-pound left-winger posted 42-57-99 totals. He is the top-rated North American prospect by NHL Central Scouting heading into the draft.

Click on link below to hear a Postmedia Sports podcast with the Montreal Gazette’s Stu Cowan talking about what the Canadiens might or might not do at the draft and who else they could have their sights on.

• Podcast: Is Pierre-Luc Dubois the next great Canadian?

To listen to other Postmedia Sports podcasts on the NHL Entry draft, click on the link below.

• Podcast: What’s going to happen at NHL Entry Draft?

To read Brendan Kelly’s latest What the Puck column, click on the link below.

• Make-or-break summer for Habs GM Bergevin, by Brendan Kelly

(Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)


  1. Julian Alfred Pankratz, viscount de Lettenhove says:

    Bonjour, hi

  2. roberge12 says:

    Gotta say it! Damn interesting posts dealing with the draft scenarios, future combos, salary caps…best part of the season (this year)

  3. Un Canadien errant says:

    New thread.

  4. B says:

    Habs open the season in Buffalo Oct. 13th.
    The home opener is Oct. 18th vs Pittsburgh.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  5. veryhabby says:

    Well my preference….Nylander falls to us because a few teams ahead of us pick up Dmen. With our luck he gets picked at #8 and we have to draft the next tier of talent 🙁

    If that doesn’t happen then I will simply trust that our management team will pick up the best player available. And by best, I mean the one with the most talent. I couldn’t care less about size. And it’s not like these “smaller guys” are 5’6′ DD small. We need talent, real top end talent. MORE then we need size. I live in a city where they tried to build with size and they got nowhere. Watch know as they are picking the BPA no matter size. You can fill size around the stud talent you have drafted. We aren’t talking 2-5th round pick here. We are taking top 10. We have to get a top quality prospect at this point. Draft size elsewhere.

    If there are some of the top Dmen still on the board and they are more talented then a Brown, or Jost or another frwd..then so be it. I don’t want a dman, but at this point if they are the best on the board then I hope we take them.

  6. punkster says:

    Glad I don’t have a PGA rules official watching over my game.

    My foot wedge occasionally make incidental contact with my ball at the most opportune moments.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  7. habsr4ever says:

    Stay at #9.
    We will get a solid prospect into our system.
    Stay away from Keller.
    Bergy will draft big and probably take Brown if he is on the board. I personally hope we draft a stud Dman.
    Concentrate on clearing cap space this week and weekend please. Keep all our picks and let Timmons do his work. He is one of the best. He has nailed our top 10 picks has he not every year with Price and Galchenyuk? Have faith peeps…have faith.

    • Paz says:

      Brown is tall. He doesn’t play big. There’s a difference.

      • habsr4ever says:

        How has Joe T done in his career?

        • Paz says:

          Yes. He has done well. Is he 6’6? Nope.

          And how many Thornton’s have there been before or since.

          You’re comparing Brown to one of the best passers of the last generation because Brown is very tall.

          Ya. That’s cool.

          • habsr4ever says:

            Thanks for admitting Joe T has done well and isn’t 6 foot 6.

            U know your stuff paz. That comment on tall vs big was fantastic. How do you know all of these things? Google has been really good to you.

  8. B says:

    Funny Father’s Day pic tweeted by the IceCaps yesterday:

    –Go Habs Go!–

  9. Paz says:

    2011 TSN Mock Draft


    5 years later. “Rankings” mean very little in the Real World.

    • bwoar says:

      Do kinda wish we’d picked Saad at #17, though. Heh.

      • Paz says:

        I’m sure you remember, being in Winnipeg, that Sheifele was ranked in the middle of the first round and the Jets grabbed him at 7.

        That’s the kind of pick Gauthier can be at 9.

        If you know the player, and you want the player, you just step up to the podium and pick him.

        Saad had “fallen down the rankings”, and was being suggested way down at 17. He went in the 40’s in the second round!

        Such bullsht the rankings.

        And the guys with their Mock Drafts based on the bs rankings.

        Garbage in, garbage out.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          There is only a handful at best of folks who I listen to with merit regarding these Junior players. So many sites are just internet hockey wannabes retyping crap they read elsewhere and none of it pertains to them parking their asses in a rink and watching the kids play.

          MB by now should know inside out the top 10 players available and who is the best fit for Montreal. I’m hopeful MB restores some of my faith in him at the draft this year.

        • habsr4ever says:

          or Gauthier could be a dud of a pick at #9 too. no goals in the WJC and what 10-12 goals in his last 25 games? Something clearly happened. Rather take a stud blue liner than risk taking Gauthier in a top 10 position. If we trade down and reep some HUGE reward/return from it – then yup take a flyer on him or Mcleod. But can’t see us doing that – you simply don’t trade out of a top 10 position unless you are absolutely certain and to be honest there are some red flags in his game.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Let me guess bwoar, the part of ‘Back to the Future’ that really speaks to you is when Biff Tannen travels back to the anti-future with the sports almanac from 2015?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Duncan Siemens is one of the names that jumps out at me from that mock. Picked in the first round, 11th overall from the Saskatoon Blades. We got Darren Dietz in the fifth round, and Dalton Thrower from the Blades also in the second round in 2012.

      When Sportsnet were playing ‘The Road to the Memorial Cup’ documentary, I paid close attention to our boys, obviously, but also Duncan Siemens, as the glitzy first-rounder surefire can’t-miss d-man, and I was completely underwhelmed. Not great numbers, and very inert, the way he carried himself and communicated.

      He had to deal with tragedy that season, and I’d factor that in, but couldn’t help but wonder that the Avalanche would have liked a re-do of that draft, whether they’d trade him outright for Darren Dietz, and that the Canadiens would probably turn that deal down.

      Mr. Siemens is playing in the AHL now, and looks like he might never make the NHL, based on his poor production so far.

      So yeah, the draft is a crapshoot. Again, the best way to succeed is to have a lot of picks, more lottery tickets, more bingo cards. Trading up, and reducing your number of picks, has been proven historically to not be as effective a strategy as trading down is. Hopefully, Marc Bergevin doesn’t bet the farm to trade up this year.

      • Paz says:

        The best way to succeed after round 1 is to have as many picks as possible.

        Absolutely 100%.

        The best way to succeed in round 1 is to have 1 player who you really like, and pick him, regardless of his ranking.

  10. kalevine says:

    today’s article by Brendan Kelly hits every nail head on. I love his categorization of Bergevin’s “It’s so hard to make trades” as whining. Cos that is EXACTLY what it is, and I’m tired of it

    • frontenac1 says:

      You know what I’m tired of? Some saloons charging almost nine bucks for a decent pint! Sure the they have the Bilge Water on sale for 4 or 5 bucks, but that’s for rookies and ladies.
      When the Revolution comes, these gougers will be first up against the wall.
      Viva La Revolucion!

      • kalevine says:

        there is a new “tea bar” that opened in my Jamaica Plain neighborhood of Boston. We just completed a 50 mile ride for “Bikes not Bombs” and my two friends saw the sign for “Cold Brew” and went their excitedly, only to find it was cold brewed tea. Mighty refreshing iced mojito tea mind you 🙂

  11. krob1000 says:

    Playstation dream world scenario:

    Habs trade PK, Pleks plus AHL dman to Edm for Nuge/4th pick/one of EDM 3rd rd picks (they have 3!) Nurse and 2017 2nd or 3rd pick

    Why Edm do? they get temporary no 2/3 center with vet leadership in Pleks to buy time for Draisaitl and get vet leadership and defensive presence they need in Subban and compete right away

    PK-their most obvious need and they do NOT need the riches they have up front

    Habs use 4th pick to land Dubois, Habs keep their 9 pick to draft a dman (Sergachev)…Habs package their 2 2nd rounders plus acquired 3rd rounder and land Gauthier in latish 1st round.

    To sum it up Has receive toughness on back end in Nurse, a top D prospect, the two best Franco forwards in the draft both of whom fit organizational needs as scoring forwards with size which insulates a Lehkonen and Gallagher moving forward. Team still has Price …Price has proven to be the important one over PK (not that PK is not but you get the idea).

    By making deal as is with Edm…MTl gains several million in cap space, gets best two Francos power forwards in draft, gets a top 6 center and still gets to draft one of top 3 dmen in draft.

    Now throw moon and stars at Stamkos and offer him 10 million plus…I did at 10.5 per season.

    DLR/Ghetto/Matteau/Flynn and PAP buyout
    (this is a Fracno friendly, bigger, younger lineup and far more skilled)

    This allows all of the young guys to be in roles and positions to succeed in my playstation fantasy world! Lehkonen gets the Panarin gig on top line to build confidence. Chucky can score at RW as well as at C. Big Mac helps to toughen Patch/Nuge duo up and be net presence and Nuge is pass first guy but Mac can be physical presence(team has guys like Ghetto who can slot in if need be or doesn’t work out),etc or Dubois can play either wing

    Eller can be in 3 role but with talented guys, can share workload with Gally…Dubois gets cozy spot with decent players to enter NHL and be eased in and with two solid players….I believe this would benefit both Larry and Gally hugely.

    On back end you lose Pk…BUT you have Nurse who adds toughness and would allow Emelin got be Emelin and make his hits as Nurse is tough as nails. Beaulieu is eased into more minute eating role, Petry supports Markov and team drafts Sergachev for future Markov role.

    Beaulieu-Gilbert (2 million on year..I liked him)

    FWDs cap (38.5 million with Stamkos at 10.5 and inlcuiding PAP buyout plus 1.3 for Matteau/Flynn if not able to move)

    D cap 21.4 million

    Goalie 7.1 cap

    would have plenty of room left to add at deadline, kids are all in decent roles, Gauthier in pipeline, no major prospects given up…Franco quote done for several years, size up front addressed, depth in top plines allowing for integration of kids, smallish guy s insulated,etc

    By giving Edm both Pk and Pleks nad moving DD for nothing Habs would have room for this lineup….of course this is why I love playstation but it would be a contender now, have room rto

    • toneez says:

      Play with your Play Station I surely would not allow you to make any trades that’s for sure , I cannot believe that people even consider trading PK , HE’S HERE TO STAY FOLKS , Get Over it … what craziness I cant believe it ….

      All Habs all the Time

      • krob1000 says:

        Pk at his cost is not just the same as having PK ….if no salary cap I would never consider moving PK…but there is one and I am not sure PK is worth 9 million so if we got enough pieces and some that provided cap relief AND useful roles moving forward I would strongly consider it. PK is a favourite in our household and there are pictures of him and jerseys in our rec room and both boys rooms…BUT…I think he could net a reward that is too good to pass up….You have to factoring the controllable years and certainty a deal would afford the team moving forward relative to the cap…..

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      krob, I appreciate the new format, very readable.

  12. bwoar says:

    Speaking of Arizona:

    1. Their AHL team are the Tucson Roadrunners. Get it?
    2. OEL has been the subject of the same goofy trade suggestions/rumours as PK Subban vis-a-vis moving up in the draft. Neither will be traded.
    3. This horse fully expects ARI to choose a D-man at #7.

  13. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Looking at the Habs draft history…2013 *might* turn into a banner year for Timmins…

    1st round pick, 25th overall – Michael McCarron
    2nd round pick, 34th overall – Jacob de la Rose (from Nashville – Kostitsyn trade)
    2nd round pick, 36th overall – Zachary Fucale (from Calgary – Cammalleri trade)
    2nd round pick, 55th overall – Artturi Lehkonen
    3rd round pick, 71st overall – Connor Crisp (from Dallas – Cole trade)
    3rd round pick, 86th overall – Sven Andrighetto
    4th round pick, 116th overall – Martin Reway
    6th round pick, 176th overall – Jérémy Grégoire

    • knob says:


      McCarron – top 9 forward – 10-20 goal scorer
      JDLR – bottom 6 forward – defensive roles, very limited offense
      Fucale – who knows. sometimes looks good, most of the time not
      Lehkonen – probably less than 100 NHL games, probably KHL
      Crisp – is this guy still in our system. No NHL future
      Andrighetto – seems okay. a little rough with the puck. probably could score but might have better success in the KHL
      Reway – probably stay in Europe
      Gregoire – career AHLer.

      This it probably pretty typical of most draft years for most teams. We have a couple of guys that could have decent NHL careers and that seems to be the norm…couple of player from each draft class really making the NHL

      in all thy sons command

      • krob1000 says:

        Of all of the current forwards I have the most hope for LEhkonen..if given right role I think he could be a missing top 6 link…but if he plays in wrong role or is forced to paly a style that does not suit him I suspect you may be right…BUT…if used correctly I think he is smart and skilled enough to be part of a really good trio…like Panarin or Palat style.

    • habstrinifan says:

      nothing in those names support “banner year” predictions… in fact one may say it is nearing the end of the “wait and see” period.

  14. B says:

    Trade up for the 5th pick? WTF? Wimpy Bergervin should not settle for the 5th choice or even the 3rd. This is the Montreal Canadiens. Bergevin should trade up for the 1st over all pick and snag Matthews. Anything less would be just another complete epic failure.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  15. mrhabby says:

    Habs don’t need more small players..re Keller.

  16. mrhabby says:

    Trade #9 pick along with Eller for Yotes pick and Hanzel then pick Gauthier.

  17. montreal ace says:

    I’m all in for Gauthier even at #9, the guy is a natural in everything I like in a player, especially the goal scoring part.

  18. canfan says:

    Not sure anyone has brought this up yet, but I would like to see the Habs stay at 9 (Brown/Jost) and use those 2 2nd rounders to move back into the first for Gauthier. Not sure what the cost would be but they should be looking into it.

  19. Paz says:

    Keller is very small. He could be the next Johnny Hockey or he could be just another very small 40 point offensive player. His future will depend on how his game works against the Big Boys in the NHL.

    Jost? Well, who knows how he will fair in the NCAA next season? He’s also on the small side. A year from now it will be much clearer what his future holds. Plenty of guys have dominated Junior A and then levelled off at the next level.

    Brown? 6’6 centre who is neither physical nor strong defensively. Ok. How people don’t see the risk in that pick is beyond me.

    I don’t love any of these picks.

    I see holes in all of them.

    • Dust says:

      Im still sold on a dman at 9

      • Paz says:

        Yes. I agree. If it’s a choice between these 3 and one of the dmen, I take the dman.

        But my pick is still the 6’4 225 lbs beast who is “ranked” about 15-20 minutes later in the draft.

        Because Gauthier can not miss. He has too much size, speed and skill. He hits like a tank and drives the net to score.

        Very minimal risk with Gauthier.

        • Dust says:

          IT seems weird that he he is ranked where he is. Everything i read is positive. the one knack i read is that he didn’t have many assists this year

          • Paz says:

            He had a below par second half of the season after scoring a goal per game for about 30 games. Then he made the U20 team, and he was played as a 3rd or 4th liner., so again, he didn’t impress.

            Wayne Simmonds went in the 2nd round.

            Gauthier is a similar player to Simmonds.

            Both big, fast, hard working, tough, right wingers, who are ready, willing, and able to do whatever it takes to power a goal into the back of the net.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            The fact that he couldn’t match his PPG production from last season is a concern.

            If he couldn’t pick it up a notch in his draft year, how will he do so in the NHL, considering he’s already physically mature.

            It’s important to look at the development curve of these young players. Where are they now, relative to where they’ll end up. A question that might come up when looking at JG, based on his physical maturity and performance, is : has he peaked already?

          • Habfan17 says:

            I like Givani Smith in the 2nd. From what I have read, he is a Corson/Simmonds type player.


        • montreal ace says:

          Paz I have noticed your a good judge of talent

          • Paz says:

            Sometimes you see a player and you see his future. I like skaters first and foremost. Technique. Stride. Power. Acceleration. And Speed.
            When I see that in a big player who likes to drive the net, I get very interested.
            Goal scorers are the toughest players to find.

        • veryhabby says:

          PAz…if Gauthier so great, why isn’t he ranked top 10? His talent must not be as elite as Dubois or Tkachuk to be ranked so much lower. I mean even lower then the guys you aren’t crazy about lol

    • mrhabby says:

      and the Habs really need another small player geeeeeesh.

    • veryhabby says:

      100% agree with your “fears” for those 3 kids.

      Again, #9 spot sucks cause there are 8 guys who are above the rest. The only way we get a sure thing is if 2 dmen get picked before us…and then Nylander falls to us.

      Or if the top 2 dmen are still on the board. Hate to take a dman, but if they are that much better then the Jost/Keller etc…. Not high on Chrychrun…so the other 2.

      Altho was reading how Hunter with the Leafs insisted on talent above size when he picked Marner. That kid is real small, but oozing talent which you can’t teach. Keller may be a lot better then were ranked if his size affected his ranking. Plus Pleks/DD will be gone by time he comes on board. so team can find size elsewhere in line up…DLR, McC etc

  20. Habfan17 says:

    I earlier suggested a trade involving PK to Columbus for the 3rd overall, Savard, Bittner, and their 2nd round pick. Some did not like this.

    If Dubois is still available when Vancouver is up at 5th, how about Price and Eller for the 5th, Miller ( Van retains $2m of his salary), Cassels, Vancouver’s 2nd round pick, and Nikita Tryamkin.

    Someone had suggested Bergevin should sign Vrbata, I just looked at his stats, he had 13 goals, 14 assists in 63 games and was minus 30. My opinion, no thanks!


    • knob says:

      I don’t know that moving Price is a good idea. Not at least right now anyway. I think that we should move him in his final year of his contract as he will want the farm next time he signs. It seems to be a common theme now that young unestablished goalies can give you the same success as a vet goalie but at a much cheaper cap hit. The caveat though is that the young guy still has to fall in the class of “a starting goalie”.

      in all thy sons command

      • Habfan17 says:

        You make a lot of sense, I am looking at it from another angle. Miller is experienced and would fill in respectably for a year or two while the young kids prove they are ready, at least one of them. I am also wary of Price’s injuries. They may be behind him lie Markov, or they could keep coming back.


    • Paz says:

      The ONE and ONLY thing everyone in hockey agrees on is that the Habs with Carey Price have proven they are very competitive.

      Imagine yourself as Bergevin, now.

      Are you willing to risk your entire career on one trade, when you are the guy trading Carey Price?

      No. I didn’t think so.

      And the only way Molson okays a trade involving Subban is if Subban calls a meeting and requests a trade. That’s why Roy was traded. He insisted that he be traded, and he refused to play another game for Tremblay.

      If Subban ever gets to that point with Therrien, Therrien will be fired immediately.

      Geoff Molson is not going to trade Subban to save Therrien. I don’t think Molson trades Subban to save Bergevin either.

      25 years from now no one will care about Therrien or Bergevin. Subban is a player who will never be forgotten in hockey.

    • Ktowner says:

      I refer you to my previous comments regarding PK.

    • bwoar says:

      Sorry HF17, but that’s

      A 5th overall
      An overdone goalie we’d still pay $4M to
      a 2nd round pick
      a hulking D, still a prospect at 21


      a proven all-world goalie
      a decent 3rd-line centre.

      I get that people see Dubois really big, but the only thing that looks like it might be a sure thing in that trade is the #5, and even that isn’t a guarantee. Is it likely whoever goes at #5 will be better at hockey than Carey Price?

      • Habfan17 says:

        I was looking over the Vancouver roster for other players, that would make it a good trade for the Habs. Hard to find any. Miller is only so the Habs have an experienced goalie to fill in until the kids are ready and with a much better team in front of him, Miller should be good enough to keep the Habs in contention for the short term.


        • bwoar says:

          I’ve watched a fair bit of the Canucks as I have friends who are fans. I didn’t like the Miller signing to begin with and he hasn’t changed my mind.

          Couple things about the ‘Nucks:

          1. They need a centre
          2. They need scoring desperately
          2. They are rebuilding on the fly

          I see them picking Dubois rather then trading for a goaltender, as they are just waiting to hand the nets to Thatcher Demko or Jacob Markstrom. If anything they are looking to unload Miller to play the latter.

          If I were willing to trade Price for the #5, I’d lean more towards:

          Price, Eller, #45


          #5, Virtanen, Markstrom.

          I don’t see a match between these two teams at all.

  21. knob says:

    I believe that Plekanec will be traded at the draft. Not sure to who or for what. The contract he signed seems strange for a guy his age and role with the team. 2 years with no no-movement clause?

    in all thy sons command

  22. Gord Stellick and Rob Simpson (XM91)

    Said this morning Stamkos will be a nice fit in Buffalo, and Montreal. Basically they listed some teams and a definite No to Toronto.

    OT: From Mr Waffles Live in NY

    I think he’ll be a Ranger, Nash and Lundqvist will be traded.

    Word on the street is that Marleau will be a Canadiens.

    Get Back to Work!

    Father & Son
    “The Montreal Gazette contacted the Canadiens to see if Molson or Bergevin wanted to give their side of the Robinson story, but they took a pass.”
    Dear Marc, I want a Raise.
    Signed, Carey Price

    • Dust says:

      I think Rangers too. I think Nash is gone too. I don’t think Lundqvist goes anywhere though.

    • krob1000 says:

      I am only interested in a Marleau deal if it involves DD going other way along with another salary. If he is the big acquisition and nothing else done I would be worried…but his one year left is an interesting fit timeline wise and would allow possible emergence of Shcerbak/Lehkonen,etc…BUT that is a lot of salary and if they did this then I think there would plenty of more work to be done and DD needs to go and also maybe even PLeks and still get a deal done with Edm for Nuge if not able to throw bank at Stamkos.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Waflles must be on a sugar rush, too much maple syrup on his waffles!
      It will be easier said tan done moving Nash and Lundquist.


  23. HabinBurlington says:

    Non hockey related post. I can only imagine the neck pain which the USGA committee must be suffering from today. How an entire group of people can have their own craniums lodged so deeply up their rear ends as they do, is truly an incredible feat.

    I can just imagine the ridiculousness of their Water Buffalo gatherings when they praise each other on how they continue to make golf look more about stuffy old men than folks hitting a golf ball on the course.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Missed most of yesterday’s round,but what the hell was that all about Burly? Kinda reminded me of NHL Wheel of Suspension for DJ.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      Spot on post. They rely on the integrity of players to call penalities on themselves but question the player when he claims he didn’t make the ball move. An official makes a ruling, but after further review the committee decides on a possible penalty and informs the player that this may happen putting doubt in his kitchen for the rest of his round.

      Did you do anything to move the ball Dustin?
      Thank you – end of story.

      Kevin Na whiiffed on a drive and they took his word it was a practice swing – they needed to take Dustin’s word too, he has a history of calling penalties on himself if there is a penalty to be called.

      USGA could not have handled that worse.

  24. habsr4ever says:

    Dreger says Wings are front runners to land Stamkos.
    Wow – really?
    Leafs will be there pushing HARD.
    I can also see the Rangers in there as well as the Flyers.
    Out west – Ducks?
    Dark horse – Blues.
    Then again – don’t count out the Bolts just yet.

    • Habby_Haberton says:

      Kinda hope Leafs get him with a gross overpayment. He won’t be worth $11 million when he is 35.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Remember it was Dreger who said Babcock was signed in Detroit or somewhere.. i forgot. Maybe it was Buffalo.

      • Gerry Pigeon says:

        Dreger strikes me as a want to be sportscaster. Sometimes I hear him prattling on and when he stops talking, I think, “He just said nothing, and it took four sentences…”

        C’mon MB! SWING, DAMMIT!

        • habsr4ever says:

          Just for the record I am no fan of Dreger. Never seen a guy talk so long and really say nothing or confirm nothing. Waste of time and space on the insider report. Bob Mckenzie on the other hand – now he is a guy I will watch and listen to and respect. Just say’in.

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    Trade I am least looking forward to seeing this offseason will be Detroit and Datsyuk. Some team is going to want to acquire the 7.5 million caphit which won’t cost them a dime paid out as he is retiring. It is these kinds of trades which frustrate me, just as watching Toronto get the Nathan Horton contract in order to dump David Clarkson.

  26. Ozmodiar says:

    For those pondering the ‘trade up to 4th for Dubois’ scenario …

    The asking price would be too high considering there isn’t a big quality gap between 4th and 9th.

    For example, if Edm draft for need, things could get interesting. With a few teams that could really use a defensemen, and Brown climbing in the rankings, something like this isn’t out of the question:


    If not, one of the above is a good consolation prize.

  27. kerrgte says:

    Did Strombo ever make an intelligent comment, remark, observation during his “sweet-paying-for-doing-sfa” job ?

    The guy was a total waste of money.

    But, other than that, it’s summertime, and time for some Pinot Grigio.

    1. MB will select 9th because no GM is dumb enough to jeopardize the future;
    2. No pricey UFA’s because this is feeding frenzy time for those that like to piss away their cap $:
    3. Nonetheless, I’ll continue to hope for a miracle. .

    cheers to all
    George K

  28. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos!
    So Strombo snuffed? Maybe if he wore suits that weren’t 3 sizes too small he’d still have a gig.
    No big deal for me. I only watch Grapes, then back to RDS/TVA.
    Happy Solstice.

    • 100HABS says:

      That’s hilarious, Front, I do the same. I don’t know why I do it, though. Grapes is like an unpleasant drug to which I seem to be addicted. It’s like watching an uncomfortable situation… but for some reason I keep doing it.

    • Habs54 says:

      I’m glad I am not alone regarding the suits

    • adamkennelly says:

      you forgot to mention the ridiculously pointy shoes…

    • kerrgte says:

      Agreed – who would wear clothes that are obviously so small ?

      Also, did he get rid of that utterly stupid tongue stud where his garbled speech was incomprehensible ? How goofy is that for someone who makes his living talking ?

      An utter buffoon who hangs on because he was one of the anointed ‘exciting’ new CBC ‘stars’

      • Mavid says:

        That is the style now a days for young men…I don’t necessarily like it, but he is not unique in his choice of clothing.. I don’t care what he wears..I did not think he was a good fit, he seemed to be drowned out by the much stronger personalities that were on the panel.

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        • Gerry Pigeon says:

          I agree that he seemed like a lightweight, pretend hosting a hockey show for grownups, populated by ex-players that had credibility and insight.

          I normally couldn’t care less what they wear, but his geeky youthful wardrobe only exaggerated his ill fit as host of a show where he seemed to know lots less than the other panelists…

          Sportsnet understandably wants to grow the game by attracting younger viewers, and George tagged to be the frontman in that effort. Well, if you want to do that, then George should be hosting on social media, not CBC TV, and the game needs to change to be more fun, like 80’s hockey era where Gretzky was getting 200+ points a year. Can you tell old guys are running things?

          C’mon MB! SWING, DAMMIT!

          • Mavid says:

            agree about the social media fit..I bet he would excel at that..

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  29. Habfan17 says:

    I am changing gears. I did think that the Habs might deal with Edmonton for the 4th overall. I have never wanted a deal to include the 9th overall. I am okay if it as for PK, as long as it made sense for Montreal, although, I do believe the Habs would need to get a right side defenceman as part of the package.

    So now, I would rather see PK, and Eller to Columbus for the 3rd overall ( Puljujarvi/Dubois), Savard, Bittner, and their 2nd round pick. Then pick one of Sergachev, Chychrun, or Juolevi, depending on who is available.

    Then in the 2nd round, take Lucas Johansen, Givani Smith, Pascal Laberge.


    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      They are not trading PK within the conference.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      PK is not getting traded.

      Montreal will pick 9th, no higher. MB will not pay the high price. We’re talking about draft picks here, not suits.

      MB will get a fine player at 9. I’m guessing the 3 most likely are Sergachev, Brown, and Nylander.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I would agree, it is unlikely, but I would not say he won’t be traded. We have no idea what really went on this past season, and with expansion next season, and his no trade kicking in July 1st, I wouldn’t rule it out 100%.


    • Ktowner says:

      The whole idea of trading an established franchise player, positional trophy winner just approaching his prime for a potential pick makes absolutely no sense at all.

      • toneez says:

        You are correct !!! I really have no idea why its even a topic for conversation , did we not get hurt enough with the Patty Roy , Chris Chelios and John LeClair debacles that conversations about silly issues like trading PK should not even exist , or are we still suckers for more punishment and mediocrity … C’mon People wake up !!!

        All Habs all the Time

      • habstrinifan says:

        I hope you are NOT impugning the saneness of Habfan17. Thaat may be exaggerating things.

        It would be as much an exaggeration as a poster consistently impugning a player as a ‘dweeb’ who must be traded to make a situation better.

  30. Commandant says:

    #81 Zach Sawchenko, Goaltender, Moose Jaw Warriors
    #82 Jordan Sambrook, Defence, Erie Otters
    #83 Jonathan Ang, Centre/Right Wing, Peterborough Petes
    #84 Ben Gleason, Defence, Hamilton Bulldogs
    #85 Jacob Cederholm, Defence, HV71


    Go Habs Go!


  31. I like George Stroumboulopoulos, but then again I consider myself attuned with the trends of today, I don’t agree with them but when you’re in sales and conduct public speaking you have to be able to relate and talk with all ages.

    George Stroumboulopoulos is not bad at his show, and what he did, Rogers is the one to blame here. People don’t like what they have been doing, they don’t like their intermission personalities and they don’t like the gimmicks. So they fired Stromboulopoulos, and if they are smart they will find a younger version of Jeremy Roenick, and start again.

    But Roger’s biggest problem with trying to keep people entertained has always been the same, they always have their Leaf, Ontario, Blowhard, Windbags saying the same thing. What they need are five or six personalities from different fan regions, going at it game after game. It would be like watching a Leaf troll coming into Habs Inside Out, and try and tell us why the Leafs are so great and why we suck.

    I haven’t watched an intermission in years. I see maybe a minute here and there but with ten to fifteen other games on, and a Center Ice package why would I not want to change the channel. Especially to watch on air personalities that doesn’t do anything for me.

    But I would stick around to watch a Montreal representative hammer a Leaf representative in a battle of wits.

    With Toronto drafting Matthews, and what appears to be a better than average rebuild (compared to the last 49 years rebuild), it will only get worse with the intermission show. It will be all Leafs, All the time and that will please Ontario, but no one else will watch.

    Father & Son
    Dear Marc, I want a raise.

  32. Cal says:

    Ron MacLean is host of HNIC. Cherry is re-signed. Bob Cole will likely return for his ad infinitum season. Yup, at Rogers everything crap is new again. Well done.

    • SmartDog says:

      Canada produces hundreds of great hockey players yearly.

      Yet somehow we can only create one great host every couple of generations?

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Ktowner says:

      I agree that the Rogers product is crap. One positive aspect for me where I live is the number of Habs games available on various channels in my cable package.
      I can honestly say that I haven’t watched a “regular” HNIC broadcast from start to finish since Rogers took over because I can’t stand the idiotic “banter”. Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson are absolutely nauseating to listen to, Cherry is irrelevant and the intelligence and insight of Ron McLean has been stifled.
      Most of the time I turn the play by play sound off and channel surf during the intermissions.

      • Cal says:

        I would love a “sounds of the game” option. I’d rather hear the crowd and the skating and the puck being snapped around than play by play announcers or player stalking weirdos like Pierre Mcguire. My problem was I grew up listening to Gallivan and Dick Irvin, you know, smart hockey announcers who knew when to talk and when to shut up.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      No matter what you think of them, you can’t compare the crew of TSN to the stiffs on Sportsnet. Same goes for RDS to the even worse crew on TVA.

      As for Cherry and MacLean, they haven’t developed anybody to replace these guys so what do you expect? I don’t agree with Cherry’s views but I would never replace him.

      • Cal says:

        I agree Sportsnet’s crew is inferior to TSN by a country mile. I’ve heard bad things about TVA Sports’ coverage, but I don’t have that channel.
        On air “talent” doesn’t have to be developed. Either you have it or you don’t. Strombo didn’t have that sports vibe.
        However, 5 minutes of dead air is preferable to Cherry. How about a segment of 5 minutes with someone intelligent, like Firedman, talking to the recent greats of the game and getting their input on making the product better?
        35 long in the tooth dinosaur years from Cherry is about 34 years too many.

  33. Mavid says:


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  34. Timo says:

    Gotta say… very successful fishing this weekend. Either I am getting better or fish is just hungry. Too bad lost a couple of them expensive rapala lures. Back to work tomorrow… sigh.

  35. Timo says:

    Stambolopolous was not right for that gig. He did not fit.
    Mind you I don’t watch it anymore anyway so can’t say I care, but McLean is a better choice.

  36. PK says:

    Worst Habs trades of all time?
    There is quite the selection but not many of these are debatable:


    Probably a few that I have missed.

    • Timo says:

      Roy hands down. Leclair-Desjarding for Dr. Recchi close second.

      My god, and people are saying it is hard to be an NHL GM.

    • doug19 says:

      McDonagh perhaps can be given a pass as his potential had not been realized. However Roy, Chelios and Langway had long great careers after leaving the Habs. The Habs seem for what ever reason to not be able to make big successful trades. When was the last one?

  37. The ice ghost says:

    I am just hoping we get a little luck in this draft. Bringing back Muller was the first thing that’s cheered me up since our season went south, because Therrien didn’t take the bullet and should have.

    Some good draft news would help us get through the summer.

    Light a candle, amigos.

    “The Titanic. Now that was a train-wreck.”

  38. Marc10 says:

    Happy for Cleveland. Good on ’em. I just can’t get into basketball, even though I appreciate the athleticism and the sheer size and height of most of the guys on the court.

    Those last seconds summed up basketball for me. Foul, foul, foul, timeout, foul, missed shots… King James lying on the ground like an Azzurri trying to sell a mild foul… Meh.

    Still… Good for Cleveland!

    Other random thoughts… Yes, that Chelios trade was easily the worst considering how long and how well he played. Terrible trade.

    I don’t see us having the chips to trade with Edmonton for their 4th. We could trade for Yak or Eberle though.

    Strombo was a bad fit on HNIC… Just like his suits! I’ve got a lot of time for his one on one chats. He’s good at getting interesting stories out of his guests, but not such a great moderator/ball distributor… and the latter is what’s required on HNIC.

    So… we’re close to draft day. It’s a deep draft. Timmins better nail this one. The safe play seems to be one of the Ds that are sliding down to our spot. The reach appears to be those forwards. Lots of options there to hit or miss.

  39. piter says:

    Dubois looks like a young, larger Sakic.

  40. doug19 says:

    The Chris Chelios trade, the worst Habs trade?


    The habs got a home boy they passed up in the draft years earlier, a nearly done Denis Savard. Chicago got Chelios and a second round pick. They picked a Mike Pomichter not a known name.
    Chicago received TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS and Anders Erickson when they traded Chelios 9 years later. Hawks wiffed on those two picks.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Habs still won a Cup. Worst trade IMO had to be Gomez. They overpaid to a team who was desperate to dump the contract to sign a top UFA. Just a horrible deal. Who knows what would have happened with a PK-Mac-Price trio on D.

      • The ice ghost says:

        G*d I forgot about Gomez. Oh I hated him! Yeah, that one’s up there. And Gainey (a Habs hero, always) made it worse with the term. If you make a mistake, even a big one, that’s risk, and goes with the territory, but to make a mistake with that kind of term and cap implications. Are we still paying the little t*rd?

        “The Titanic. Now that was a train-wreck.”

    • The ice ghost says:

      Chelios trade had nothing to do with hockey. Ask one of the older fans you know to tell you the story.

      Looking at “Worst Trades” we would have to decide on if we were considering pure hockey trades or all trades? And is the truth known about certain mysterious trades. What REALLY was the deal with Tinordi, for example? Not that that was so major.

      Did we completely ruin his development and waste him? Or does MB know something that won’t come out for years?

      For me Patrick Roy trade was the worst.

      Rod Langway was pretty rough also, though I would take Ryan Walter, Rick Green and Dougie Jarvis on our team today in a heartbeat.

      And as we know, the worst may yet to be. If we trade PK… I wouldn’t take AM for him, honestly. PK is magic and his flamboyance is so in the character of the city of Montreal… I can’t even contemplate.

      Mr. Bergevin needs to eat his Wheaties.

      “The Titanic. Now that was a train-wreck.”

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      Top 3 worst Habs trades of all time? Yes. Worst trade in Habs history? No. That would be the Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for spare parts trade. Set the team back at least 10 years.

  41. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    RE: Strombo getting fired

    As long as they keep Sophia can’t-spell-her-last-name-but-who-cares-because-she’s-hot, I don’t care who the host is.

  42. Predicting success of feeder league prospects is now pretty straight forward using goals scored. Seems far more accurate that scouting. See this and the more detailed study by behind the net below; http://flamesnation.ca/2015/7/17/predicting-future-nhl-scoring-success-with-nhle-thresholds-related-factors


  43. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Congrats to Lebron James, the Cavs and Cleveland. What a comeback. James finally woke up and decided to take over. The Cavs also fired their coach during the season…new trend?

    • FenceSurfer says:

      Fire the coach? What a novelty. That coulda been us. I lived in Cleveland one year. A lost year in my life. They are going bat-sh#t crazy for sure. Good on them.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Remember the post which laughed at the Raptors and said Raptors should be ashamed… this CAVS team just showed how the Raptors were truly heroic to win 2 games.

  44. AndyF says:

    Just found this little nugget. Among other things, it ranks draft picks by using total TOI for the first 7 years of a player’s career.

    9th place is 45.6% as valuable as 1st place, according to this stat.

    The evolution of player development strategies seems to have gotten more value out of later draft picks, in recent years.

  45. sag says:

    Check out the mock draft here.


    I could just imagine the explosion here when a 5’9 D man is selected with the #45 pick.

  46. unclefester says:

    The Toronto Stars Dave Feschk is reporting tongith that George Stromboulopoulos is out as host of Hockey Night in Canada and Ron MacLean is back in his old slot…

    No surprise really that Strombo is gone…but isn’t MacLean a little bit stale these days ??

    Just asking…

    …”in rapier-like fashion”… Danny Gallivan…

  47. Mavid says:


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  48. powerplay says:

    The flower has the reputation of a WINNER.

  49. Un Canadien errant says:

    Graphical representation of the total expected value of draft picks of each team. Leafs are first, Canadiens come in, unsurprisingly, in 9th.


    “…my dad’s idea of a relaxing time is yelling at someone how wrong they are! He’s barely happy unless he feels like he’s being persecuted.”


  50. 100HABS says:

    Interesting stat:

    Andrei Markov could be only the 6th player to crack 1000 games played with the Montreal Canadiens this year.

    Behind the likes of pocket rocket and Béliveau. If he plays a full season, he skips ahead of Rocket, Road Runner, and Flower.

  51. doug19 says:

    To me the perfect player to clone when drafting this year would be Chris Chelios. Who was the dummy who traded away our Norris winner who then won two more. Chris had it all plus longevity.
    Oh wait he had personality and passion!

    • on2ndthought says:

      I can’t think of another Hab I hated while he played for us. His cynical elbow to Brian Propp turned us from the good but tough enough to handle ourselves into the Broad Street Bullies part deux. I was glad when he was traded and sad he had a brilliant career while Propp wandered dazed through a few more seasons. I like tough players, even a nasty edge; but vicious attacks from behind are cowardice.

      • AndyF says:

        Wow, I was thinking exactly the same thing! That was a brutal and cruel elbow that took out one of the game’s best scorers. Winning that series felt cheap. I can only remember the ’72 Summit Series being close, when Bobby Clarke broke Valeri Kharlamov’s ankle with a slash.

  52. RightNyder says:

    The USGA makes Gary Bettman look pretty good by comparison.

    • habsfan0 says:

      I wonder if Stroumboulopoulos was let go because it’s no secret he’s a Habs fan.
      I like MacLean but his comment about French referees used during Habs games was disquieting.

    • 100HABS says:

      Thanks for the info – I only need to look here to get all the truly important hockey news!

      Oh, wait, I watch in French… not really important then. Just wish all the games would go back to RDS and Pierre Houde.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Strombo was one of the very few changes I liked on the Rogers-ized HNIC. I fear they’re going backwards. Lost the song, which TSN stupidly overplays, lost the opening montages from Tim Thompson, lost Chris Cuthbert, but we’re still suffering through Don Cherry and P.J. Stock, and now they’ve foisted Nick Kypreos on us.

      Ron McLean isn’t awful, but he’s allowed himself to sink to the level of Don Cherry, no doubt under order from his superiors. He’s not worth half of Dave Hodge.

      • Stevie.Ray says:

        I’m a fan of Strombo’s but he always came off a little bit too hyper for HNIC. Maclean will always be, to me, the embodiment of Canadian sport and culture. He’s great. Cherry is terrible.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Agree with you re Dave Hodge… but McClean is better than Strombo… by leaps.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          @Stevie, trini: I was willing to see how he’d grow into the role, where he could take the show. It looks like Sportsnet’s lean budget didn’t leave any room for any.

          I already liked Strombo from way back in his MuchMusic days. He’s a childhood friend of a buddy of mine, he’s come to Whistler to hang out. So maybe I’m predisposed.

          Ron McLean won’t ruin the show or anything, not beyond the way it’s already kypreossified, but he’s no Dave Hodge, he’s no James Duthie. And I’m not even sure that he’s better than Strombo.

          • habstrinifan says:

            Dave Hodge, in my opinion, is on a different level. But let’s face it, the show was meant to be a jock shtick.. and Strombo doesnt fit that role.

    • Coach K says:

      I don’t mind that move. McLean at least knows hockey and most importantly, is keenly in tune with its grassroots and its history.

      That intimate background knowledge in my mind, affords him the credibility that others lack and makes him better suited for that role than most…including Strombo, whom I must admit, won’t miss.

      -There are NO foxholes in hockey-

    • Habby_Haberton says:

      It was a weird hire to begin with. He should stick to political topics, hockey is a little ‘brainless’ for him in my opinion.

      Ron is a good host, even if I’m over the whole Don Cherry era of the broadcast.

  53. Habnormal says:

    Regarding drafting, I think far too much emphasis is put on a particular player. I suggest just drafting in your spot and getting as many picks as you can and hoping 1 or 2 become NHL players each year because that is what the odds are. Many are high on Sherbak who could end up being another Leblanc. We have had too many Leblancs over the years. It does seem that Timmins knows how to draft defencemen though.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      That’s really the key to drafting. No matter how much work you do, how much scouting and developing you do, 18-year-old players are nowhere near hatched, they have a long way to go for the most part, and some won’t make it.

      The NFL drafts players who can sometimes be as old as 23, and they still make mistakes, draft players high who wash out. The Philadelphia Eagles a few years ago drafted an Okanagan kid in the first round who hadn’t played much football, and eventually decided that all in all, he’d prefer to be a firefighter. So we can’t agonize on a Louis Leblanc every now and then, every team craps out in the first round occasionally.


      So the best way to have success is to do all the work, but also to make sure to amass as many picks as you can. It’s like playing bingo with more than one card, or holding more 50-50 tickets. The more you have, the better your chances. Which is why I was distraught last season at the poor asset management, how we accumulated role players but didn’t flip any for draft picks, how we squandered Jarred Tinordi, how we were left holding the bag on Tom Gilbert. Ultimately that could/should have been an extra two or three more picks for the future.

      And it’s why I fear the Leafs, they’ve done precisely this, turned players into picks, signed their Shawn Matthiases and Dan Wynnicks and P.A. Parenteaus, and realized those assets for the most part. Last season, they didn’t hesitate to trade down, didn’t fall in love with any players, just kept accumulating more draft picks, more shots at the dart board. They have twelve picks this year, twelve. Four in the first two rounds. And next season they already have three second-rounders to look forward to.


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