Plekanec, Halpern day to day

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The Habs had a look at a new defenceman for Thursday’s game. Name is Carey Price. Helmet looks a little weird, but he’s got a heck of a shot. Spies shot this from seventh-floor press gallery with a video camera, taken at great personal risk. An anonymous fellow spy from La Presse whom we’ll identify only as “Marc-Antoine Godin” reports that Price, er, borrowed P.K. Subban’s gloves and Benoit Pouliot’s stick for the tryout. Another photo below.

Canadiens coach Jacques Martin reports that forwards Tomas Plekanec and Jeff Halpern, who missed the third period of Tuesday’s game vs. Washington with lower-body injuries, are considered day to day and might be available to play Thursday at home vs. Tampa Bay. Neither injury is deemed long-term.

The aching Habs took their second team photo of the season on Bell Centre ice at 10:30 am, the post-trade deadline version that is considered the official 2010-11 club portrait. As he usually is for practice, Plekanec was first on the ice for the photo.

Not on hand, but to be Photoshopped into the final image, were Max Pacioretty, Andrei Markov and Josh Gorges, all injured and unavailable to pose, and Hal Gill, who stayed home ill. Jaroslav Spacek, rehabbing from arthroscopic knee surgery, wore his jersey with shorts, knee socks and sneakers.

Only four Canadiens practised following the 10-minute photo session: Alex Auld, Alexandre Picard, Mathieu Darche and Brent Sopel. The rest of the team worked out off ice.

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Carey Price lets fly after the Canadiens’ four-man practice Wednesday.

208 Comments

  1. Bill J says:

    Yes I did as a matter of fact Smug Cat.

    What Incredible talent did the Habs land with this <cough cough> advantage ?

    Even Zepfan cited a DIFFERENT source of debunking your theory, and BOLDED IN CAPS for ease of reading the “fine print” you clearly are missing.

    LOL indeed!

  2. Bill J says:

    Way to back-peddle with a pathetic reply.

    “Hab hatred isn’t new, people forget the Habs were the benefits of the ‘we get the top 2 french players’ rule until 1970.”

    Above is your post I had issue with.  What benefits are you referring to then ?

    Oh & secondly 1970 ??  more like 1936-1943 (7 years) and again NOT ONE PLAYER drafted as part of this rule ever skated one minute in professional Hockey.

     

    So how exactly does this not change anything ?  Maybe you should stop imitating Bruce Boudreau, and take “Le Baron’s” sage words of advice from last night “FERME TA TRAPPE LE CHAT!, FEEERRRMME TA TRAPPE”

    k ;)

  3. HabFanSince72 says:

    It has nothing to do with Canada.

    If you’re referring to thuggery, then that is actually a very Canadian aspect of the game.

  4. The Cat says:

    Just because it didnt have the desired effect doesnt change anything.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  5. HabFanSince72 says:

    an extremely dangerous and stupid thing to do.

     

    AKA a “hockey play”.

     

  6. habstrinifan says:

    Felt it here in Ottawa too though not as strongly as last summer’s.

  7. avatar_58 says:

    Funny, the AHL can suspend. Why can’t the NHL?

  8. LA Loyalist says:

    If we start exporting Poutine, all will be well.

  9. The Cat says:

    Ok cause youre slow today Bill. its like if the next game after Chara hit Max he potted 2 goals in his own net causing the bruins to lose; would you say its a good thing he didnt get suspended? People hate what they perceive to be preferrential treatment.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  10. LA Loyalist says:

    Last year he hadn’t earned the right to goof around.

     

  11. Bill J says:

    Hmmmmmm

    “earned” such a strong word in the context you are using it.

    Are you referring to his young age ?  Or are you stating that Price had not proven anything yet ?

    Because in both of the above cases I could provide counter-evidence to debunk your thinking.

    If this is NOT what you meant, please elaborate.

  12. Bill J says:

    WOW – YOU are calling ME slow ?

    WTF does this post have to do with the Habs drafting 2 French Canadian players (who NEVER played hockey) as an advantage ?

    When I told you to “Ferme ta trap” I meant it so that you would stop making yourself look like a complete fool.  Apparently this is what you want today.

     

    And to address this unrelated to the topic question you have for me…

    What Chara does or does not do in the games that followed, has NOTHING to do with the illegal (or legal depending on which side of the fence you are on) hit on MaxPac.

    Any other gems you want me to clear up for you ?

  13. ZepFan2 says:

    I guess you missed the part where that “special” rule helped the ruins land Orr.

    Now name one of the picks the Habs took first with their “special” pick.

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  14. CoachJoe says:

    Maybe Boivin compared what Mcguire told him to what others might have shared and decided that Mcguire does not know as much as Mcguire thinks he does.

    Name me one other ex-coach in the media who actually wants to get back in the NHL again that has not succeeded?  The league rehashes old names over and over again and yet Mcguire can’t get himself a gig.  

    So, we are stuck listening to his talent of pointing out the obvious and bashing the Habs.

  15. Bill J says:

    Actually because I am being very accurate in my discussion with the feline. I need to correct you here.

    Orr was NOT acquired due to the “special rule” Cat is alluding to (2 top french picks BS) Orr was acquired due to those “C” forms, he was signed at the age of 11 years old.

    THIS “C” form is the reason the “French player” draft thing never succeeded because back then (as indicated in your first post on the matter) because every single boy who skated with a Hockey stick was “signed to C form” long before they where eligible for this “special draft”

    However, bringing up the C forms paints a perfect picture.  The Habs NEVER had a “real” advantage, the NHL tried to give the Habs an advantage to help the team survive, but it was not a very well thought out plan.  And frankly, I’m glad it did not work.  Because if it had, this Myth could not be debunked.

  16. HalifaxHabs says:

    ridiculous statement… the guy isn’t a robot or a slave, it’s ok for him to skate around and have some fun on non-mandatory practice day, whether he is the best goalie in the league or the worst.

    NHL players are actual humans you know.

  17. ZepFan2 says:

    Well the point I was trying to make was, a C-form player from my understanding, are players that were actually worth signing.

    The “special” draft just allowed the Habs to get the scraps, ie: French players that would never make it in the first place.

    Or am I wrong?

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  18. Jordio-oh says:

    based on what?

    His numbers weren’t bad enough to justify how bad everyone shredded him for things that were based largely on speculation and hearsay.

  19. Bill J says:

    Nope, this post you’ve got it bang on.

    I just didn’t want Cat to think because you alluded to the “special rule” that somehow the Habs DID land someone as part of the draft in question.

    Ultimately, every single NHL team had the same benefits.  Therefore Myth debunked.

    I too believed the myth for many years, but I really enjoy clearing it out when the opportunity arises. :)

     

  20. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So Marchand elbows Umberger in the head from behind (intentionally, does that even have to be said here), and this is not on the TSN homepage. They have a “Now or Never” article talking about the Leafs making the playoffs!!!!

    WTF is wrong, why is that friggin’ news. The GMs are meeting and talking about headshots. Marchand’s hit should be the talk of the town. Heatley should be reviewed as well, although from the two times I watched the video, it looks like Ott “sold” that one.

    But TSN is talking the Leafs still having a shot at the playoffs, the boat left 3 weeks ago!!!!

  21. Bill J says:

    a Gag order was placed on the events that transpired last night in the NHL.

    They can not afford for OTHER teams to speak up, seeing as “only Hab fans complain about head shots”

     

  22. shiram says:

    So I was wondering, with us missing 2 centers, and having 2 rookies centers on the team, and Gomez, well we are hurting for good experienced centers! Would a call up from Hamilton replace Plekanec? The short answer is no, if DD or Eller cannot fill Pleky’s boots, no one in Hamilton is likely to be able to do it.

    Again it would be great to see Gomez step up his game, and play like the veteran he is. But even if he does we are missing at least one center.

    It got me to wondering about Cammy, who used to be a center, it could be interesting to try him out as a center.

    We’ll still be missing a ton of forwards, and someone from Hamilton will have to be called up, but maybe Cammy could do a decent job? We all know how much he loves having the puck on his stick.

    Also very weird disallowed goal last night, if it we’re a Habs goals I’d be pissed, but it seems it is just one of those weird seldom used rule. There was some interference with the ref too…

  23. RGM says:

    Really had to search around to find anything online. McKenzie tweeted about it fairly early this morning but outside of that, pretty quiet. Funny, that.

    Go Habs Go!

  24. ZepFan2 says:

    I wish it were true and would have continued past the ’70’s.

    Imagine, we could have had Bourque, Mario Lemieux and Vinny on the same team. ;)

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  25. SLONCOLD says:

    hey if you don’t like unfortunate hockey plays don’t watch the game….

  26. ZepFan2 says:

    I wonder if Cherry will talk about Marchands lack of respect?

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  27. Graves says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with the Marchand elbow. It was just [another Bruin blatantly attempting to injure someone] a hockey play. In fact, I think it was Subban’s fault. Kid needs to show more respect. He could learn a thing or two from Marchand.

     

     

  28. shiram says:

    It is hard to have any faith in the League in upholding their own rules. The zebras are also not very consistent in alot of calls they make.

    Clearly a dangerous move, and clearly an illegal hit to the head, clearly should have a suspension as well. On the youtube video I watched even a Bruins fan said it was a stupid move, and warranted a suspension.

    As per TSN, well they cater to their market first.

  29. Bill J says:

    …So says Bruce “almighty” Boudreau – cuz HE has the final say! :) lol

  30. Propwash says:

    The NHL is a freakin’ joke these days.

  31. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    Hate the fact that Plek is out but don’t mind seeing the little big 3 reunited as they were destined when they first arrived.  If this doesn’t produce assists for Gomez and goals for Cammy this season nothing will.  Although they will be facing toughest opposition line.  Hopefully they get some chemistry going and if so stay together since Pleks can play with anyone and make them look good.

    Wonder if it’s worth trying Pouliot at centre on occasion…

  32. ed lopaz says:

    I like the idea of a new league, but Toronto under Burke is at the same level as the Bruins and Flyers.

    It has nothing to do with Canada.

    It has to do with rules of conduct and equipment.

    Toronto would NOT join this Canadian league.

    I doubt Calgary would join either.

     

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  33. RC-51 says:

    Wondering if Marchand will get suspended for his elbow yesterday? Probably not! Looked to me like an “unfortunate hockey play”

  34. SLONCOLD says:

    i know he complained about the disallowed goal too lol. that was an unfortunate hockey play as well and he nor the fans should complain about it because if it happened to our habs he and the fans wouldn’t be complaining.

    it’s just a hockey play gone bad lol

    i really hate this buzz term hockey play lol

  35. Say Ash says:

    Boston fans debating Marchand:

    http://www.nesn.com/2011/03/rj-umberger-upset-with-brad-marchands-hit-says-its-type-of-hit-we-are-trying-to-eliminate.html

    Marchand barely hit him at all, Umberger did what he does best…DIVE, DIVE, DIVE!!”

  36. Bill J says:

    Yeah and instead of our slogan being “The Drive for 25″

    It would be “The drive for 25 straight Cups” or “The drive for 55″ lmao

  37. Malreg says:

    Gabriel Dumont was just suspended for 10 games by the AHL for a boarding hit on March 13th.  Can’t find any video of it yet…

  38. Bill J says:

    Excellent analogy, I had not thought of that angle.

     

  39. SLONCOLD says:

    nh’sl view:

    - Marchand is not that kind of player

    - Marchand didn’t want to hurt him

    - Marchand doesn’t have a history in regards to being suspended

    - it was a hockey play, an unfortunate hockey play

    - umberger didn’t protect himself

    - umberger wasn’t hurt

  40. RGM says:

    There’s some pretty scary pictures out there that should frazzle just about anybody. The human brain goes truly wonky when it is concussed – here’s a pic of a regular brain compared to a concussed brain when doing a simple arithmetical equation: http://www.ccs.fau.edu/section_links/HBBLv2/Research/MTBI_mentalSubtraction1.jpg It’s lit up like a Christmas tree.

    Go Habs Go!

  41. Jordio-oh says:

    Jeremy Jacobs, the owner of the Boston Bruins, is the head of the Board of Directors that is in charge of deciding if Gary Bettman keep his job or not. They give him a 5 year, 40 mill (or close) extension in November.

    So I won’t be surprised to find out the Marchand hit gets forgotten about it.

    A moral person would have a hard time trying to be perfectly unbias after receiving 7+ mill a year extension from the Board of Directors, headed by the Bruins owner.

    Imagine what kind of effect said extension has on a weasel like Gary Bettman…

  42. SLONCOLD says:

    and finally if he doesn’t like it, don’t coach in the nhl.

  43. RGM says:

    Here’s the update on Pleks & Halpern:

    “Both Tomas Plekanec and Jeff Halpern‘s conditions will be evaluated tomorrow,” said Martin.

    The team made no commitment to recalling anyone on Wednesday from the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs, though when asked who would be next on the farm’s forward depth chart, Martin mentioned forwards Aaron Palushaj and Nigel Dawes.

    Go Habs Go!

  44. Graves says:

    Ha! That’s even better than the Colin Campbell flowchart of discipline.

  45. ZepFan2 says:

    Le sigh.

    It was a little more complicated than you make it out to be.

    http://www.liam.ca/ed20040319.html

    “In 1936 the Montreal Canadiens nearly folded. The Depression had already claimed several franchises including the Ottawa Senators. What the NHL’s brain trust decided to do was they would attempt to help Montreal’s attendance and thereby hopefully their bottom line financially. So they decided that the Montreal Canadiens could take any two players from the province of Quebec in a special draft. There was one rider however. None of these players could have already been previously signed to a C form (confirmation form) with any other club. At this time in the NHL and right through the late 60’s amateur players were signed by NHL teams to C forms and then placed on their appropriate junior clubs or minor pro clubs depending on their age. The most extreme case of this was Bobby Orr. Orr signed a C form three weeks before his 12th birthday with the Boston Bruins. He was so young his parents signature was required. When he turned 14 he began playing for Boston’s junior sponsored team, the Oshawa Generals. That’s how Orr became a Bruin. From 1936-1943 Montreal protected 14 players through this special draft. Unfortunately none of them ever played a minute in the NHL. Reason being, anybody who could tie their skates and chew gum at the same time were already long signed by other NHL teams including the Canadiens who certainly wern’t going to survive solely with this rule. The hope was that there would be a spark from signing a French Canadian kid, even better if he could play a bit. The thought was that this could help attendance and thereby help Montreal. It never did.”

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  46. ed lopaz says:

    its just ridiculous already.

    ENOUGH!!

    I agree with you – its unbelievable – but its probably true.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  47. LA Loyalist says:

    More research, ladies and germs:

    “Introducing 9-year-olds to bodychecking is not safer: study” from HealthZone.ca

    Please visit link: http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/954621–introducing-9-year-olds-to-bodychecking-is-not-safer-study&nbsp;

  48. Chuck says:

    I’m guessing that if Chara has suspended for his railroading of Pacioretty that Marchand thinks twice before throwing that elbow.

  49. Strabo says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEG7R9qdS5s

    Excellent video of the hit. The person who posted it does it in slow motion at the end and you can see that hit puts his elbow out at the end. Has to be a suspension, but I doubt we will see it.

     

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  50. The Cat says:

    Im all for that. And you know you dont need the best players to have the best games. Anybody who watched the Montreal-Quebec tv series with garage league players knows that. Some of the players stopped playing at major junior. And those were good games. Fun to watch.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  51. Mark C says:

    Not only is that insensitive and ridiculous, it is flat out stupid talk. Concussions are graded based on present symptoms and state of consciousness, not long term symptoms.  

  52. ed lopaz says:

    maybe its time to start thinking in terms of 2 leagues.

    League #1 would be supporting:

    head shots, no visors, equipment that is manufactured to be a weapon, fighting, race for icing, hits from behind,

    Boston, Philly, Rangers, and whoever else would want to stay in that NHL could do so.

    league #2 would be headed up by Geoff Molson and Mario Lemieux

    no head shots, visors, equipment that protects instead of injuring others, no fighting, no touch icing, no hits from behind.

    Like the American League in baseball insisted on the DH rule, we could break away and insist on our own rules.

    We would only play against the other league for the Stanley Cup, and home team league rules would apply during the series.

    The way this current NHL is run, I’m not happy supporting it any longer.

    I would rather put my support behind Molson, Lemiuex any day.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  53. ZepFan2 says:

    According to some ruins fans, Max must be faking.

    http://tinyurl.com/4zqml89

    “Well, guess who lied?

    All those protests? Air Canda, Molson, POLICE INVESTIGATIONS?

    All because the Habs coach went public saying Pacioretty had a “severe concussion”.

    Now, a week later, he’s symptom free? How does that happen?

    All lies, just to get Chara suspended for the hit.

    This makes me sick.”

     

    Are these people insane?

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  54. ed lopaz says:

    its not only Jacobs.

    Bettman is supported by MOST NHL GM’s.

    Thats why he got the extension.

    The problem is THE LEAGUE – NHL – does not agree with us.

    It is a league wide problem with maybe 6-10 teams supporting Molson and Lemiuex.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  55. G-Man says:

    Someone else posted this yesterday.

    Apply it to the Marchand- Umberger head shot from behind using the elbow:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Create-your-own-suspensions-with-interactive-NHL?urn=nhl-wp307

  56. OverseasFan says:

    No, those Bruins fans are absolutely right. People are always fracturing their own C4 vertebrae and risking paralysis.

    Kids regularly fake breaking their own necks in the morning to get out of going to school.

    Go Habs Go!

  57. PrimeTime says:

    The TSN game story last night was how WAS has so well changed their style of play. It worked out great for the broadcast and McGuire soaked it for all it was worth. You have to wonder if their stats show that the majority of viewers watching are anti-Hab fans. We know there are a lot of hockey fans that despise MTL but do they tune in to watch McGuire bash the Habs?? You would think TSN would just broadcast the game neutrally……but again maybe I’m a little biased and McGuire is a true pro! Ha Ha.Get well, Max!

  58. Ian Cobb says:

    What is a concussion, as comprehended by myself.

    I have been involved as a lay person with research pertaining to neurology at a major medical university. I have picked up a lot of information working first with veterinarian pathologists when I was doing research on my fox and mink ranch. And I was involved lately with the neurology research dept from a major medical university.

    Pertaining to concussion,
    I will try to explain, the best that I comprehend, what happens to the brain cells that have been concussed inside the skull.

    These very soft cells, when violently thrown against the skull, the neuron releases a potassium chemical out of the brain cell when damaged.

    Calcium that is already present around the outside of the cells, seeps into the cells replacing the potassium. This calcium is what gives the chemical imbalance to the brain.

    Until all of this calcium leaves the brain cells completely, the patient is left vulnerable to instant death upon a second bump, or at least permanent brain damage.

    Even a hard coughing spell  or light exercise can cause severe pain and even destroy these cells. Complete rest is needed.

    These damaged cells have to be cleared completely of this calcium  before one can resume activity to avoid serious consequences including death.

    This is very acute in young people under the age of 24 as the brain is still growing and developing.

    Ian Cobb

  59. Hobie Hansen says:

    No Fighting, u crazy?

    I like the Mario and Molson league but allow fighting!

  60. PrimeTime says:

    If the roles were reversed you would not expect some crazed Hab fans to say something just as stupid?? Get well, Max!

  61. ZepFan2 says:

    Oh, so I’m the insane person then? lol

    My head hurts.

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  62. Strabo says:

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  63. ZepFan2 says:

    Why did you have to bring up Tony? ;)

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  64. ed lopaz says:

    I also like fighting. :-)

    But its time to stop it.

    I was a huge Chris Nilan fan growing up.

    But just like drinking and driving, not wearing a seat belt, no helmets and face masks for goalies, the days of hockey fighting should come to an end.

     

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  65. shiram says:

    As per Rds.

    Pleky and Halpern, no serious injury, could play Tampa.

    Auld could be in nets tomorow or friday.

  66. ed lopaz says:

    Mcguire bashes the Habs because thats what TSN wants, and thats what TSN viewers want to hear.

    When Mcguire was a radio color man for CJAD Habs broadcasts with Dino Sisto, Mcguire was a huge habs supporter.

    He is paid hundreds of thousands to bash the Habs.

    Its his job.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  67. CoachJoe says:

    Mcguire bashes the Habs because the GM post of the Habs is the job he truly wants.  Everything he says about the Habs has undertones of “if I were running this team”…

  68. pierre lapuck says:

    There is a simple solution.  All the NHL has to do is 1) standardize the penalty phase on plays that are reviewed.  ie: no prior incidents, first blow to the head is a X game sspension.  next is x+ and so on.  If the player has a record already then x becomes x+ whatever.  They must take the arbitriness out of this as it will always be seen as favoritism or nepotism or you know.  2) the fact that a player has no prior incidents should only be releveant in asessing penalty not in determining motive or guilt.  And 3) a NON hockey guy/gal should be the league disciplinarian if not simply for the optics of it but someone who understands HOW the fans enjoy the game not simply how the game is played.  A penalty is a penalty no matter who’s watching.

    As for the arenas and their environmnts; that’s on the league and the NHLPA.  Lets see if Fehr still has a pair or if he too will bow to the owners and we’ll see the league’s true resolve. 

    I for one want hitting and physical play.  I don’t mind the ocassional fight between two guys mad at each other not goon vs. goon or “I have to do something we’re loosing 6-1″.  What I don’t want to see is guys getting carted off the ice on stretchers, picked up with blotters, or cried over at a funeral.

    Rant off.

  69. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Dave: kudos on your appearance on OTR last night. You did a damn fine job. Articulate and personable. Hardly like a print journalist at all. Lol.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  70. HardHabits says:

    You might think I am crazy and I will gladly confirm that although I am a-religious and view the Bible, New Testament and Old, as being Mythology and non-factual, that I think the power of 21,000+ fans praying with the combined energy of the Hab faithful might have something to do with this. Pacioretty didn’t just dodge a bullet, he dodged an atomic bomb.

    Either that or Pacioretty is wolverine.

  71. forskis says:

    Who cares what others say…the Habs will be bashed if they do good or bad…besides, if you want to stoop to their level, then accuse Savard of faking this new concussion so that the B’s get cap relief, Bergeron for faking since it got Randy Jones suspended and Krejci faked his broken wrist because he was paid to help the B’s blow a 3-0 games lead….and they were saying he was faking since Day 1.

    The Habs will be bashed even if they win the Cup just like they will definitely be bashed by not winning the Cup.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  72. The Cat says:

    Hab hatred isnt new, people forget the habs were the benefits of the ‘we get the top 2 french players’ rule until 1970.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  73. Bill J says:

    No, a crazed Hab fan would NOT say something as un-educated as that.

     

  74. Danno says:

     

     

    This is a serious question.

    Given the level of disenchantment with the NHL, we hear more and more people talking about the possibility of breaking away from it and forming an all-Canadian league.

    And like EricinStL said down below the CPHL could be a viable entity composed of “Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Hamilton, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec and a team in the maritimes. Add maybe 3 to 4 other teams that would survive with a salary cap.”

    Now, given that the Stanley Cup DOES NOT BELONG TO THE NHL OR GARY BETTMANN, but rather it is property of the Governor General of Canada, is it conceivable that if a Canadian Professional Hockey League were formed we could repatriate the Stanley Cup back to Canada. Forever.

    I think it’s possible. And after all the BS from Bettman and co. of late  I think it’s a damned good idea who’s time has come.

    Discusss…

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  75. shiram says:

    No one called him out, because no one can officially prove he lied.

    So beyond a lie detection test… and even those can be wrong.

  76. observer says:

    Back in the day the Habs’ team photo was taken after the season and playoffs with the Stanley Cub sitting right in front.

  77. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Unfortunately, we don’t win Stanley Cups like we did “back in the day”. So there’s no need to wait to say ‘cheese”.

  78. ZepFan2 says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  79. Chuck says:

    Captain Obvious strikes again.

  80. skoalbandit says:

    Of course he lied. How nobody called him on it is beyond me. Every player knows who they are up against right after a faceoff. You even know who is coming off the bench.

  81. Windwalker says:

    Chara lied about not knowing it was Pax. If he had said he knew it was him, he could have been be accused of a revenge hit. It was a revenge hit with bad intentions

  82. PuckHead72 says:

    He definitely knew it was him racing him to the puck. If you’re going to try to beat a defensemen in that area of the ice, you take the chance of getting your ass pinched off in there. Everyone knows that since you’ve been skating as a kid. When you play chicked, you win some, you lose some. Pax lost that one. He took the chance. Clean hit, he just got rocked. Sucks. Bet he’ll be hesitant to beat someone there next time. Maybe defensemen should just lay on the ground and let the players blow by them on a breakaway right? Morons! Hey but if it doesn’t work out you can always call the cops.

  83. Danno says:

    Any word at all on Plekanec?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  84. nick says:

    I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be hitting in hockey. I’m saying that if someone breaks a stated rule in the rule book, the player should be held accountable.

  85. G-Man says:

    Wow. Mr. Obtuse 2011.

  86. wall2bay says:

    Sorry buddy…..txtbook does not apply to the Bruins!

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  87. avatar_58 says:

    If you need to hit a guy in the head when he’s not looking you don’t belong in the NHL.

  88. The Cat says:

    I think if the NHL has no plans of making ice surfaces bigger, they should consider banning hitting period. It’ll have to be one or the other sooner or later.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  89. smiler2729 says:

    Don’t ban hitting just headshots.

  90. ZepFan2 says:

    Here, I’ll fix that for you.

    “agree – its time to ban hits to the head in the NHL.”

    There we go. Must have been a typo on your end.

    *rolls eyes*

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  91. SmartDog says:

    You are right sir.

  92. Mark C says:

    Stop it, that was a textbox rule 48 hit, Marchand should be suspended.

  93. wd40 says:

    under Bettman and the expansion, NHL revenues have gone from $400 million to 2.2$ billion.  it’s gross, it’s greed, and it’s ruining the game, but sadly… it’s all about $.

  94. LA Loyalist says:

    No. That’s a completely specious argument. Even the argument to just have a Canadian league is just from frustration (I’ve used it myself) but it’s not what I really want.

    The issues stem from

    a)  too fast expansion, which diluted the talent pool so that more marginal players are in the NHL;

    b) expanding into markets which had no business having ice hockey having no indigenous hockey culture and no hope of ever getting one. One team between Florida and Atlanta would have been plenty for the snowbirds.  3 is ridiculous, you know the list. I’ve been to Atlanta, it’s an armpit on a good day. Hockey? Who approved that?

    c) a very bad players association (NHLPA) which caved for a share of the expansion fee pie. No vision, no sense of the law of unintended consequences, the players have generally been badly served going back to Alan Eagleson, who was merely a crook. Others have been more insidious.

    1. NHL should be contracted by at least 4 teams, probably more, you guys can hash that out.

    2. Salaries should be tiered $500k, $1M, 2, 3, 4, $5 max. No contract longer than 5 years. The boat anchor contracts distort the market, even if the player plays well.

    3. We need to find a way to weight salaries and taxes in different places to offset the vagaries of $CDN US and taxes ion different markets. yeah the CDN is all fat and happy now, but that will inevitably change.

    4. Olympic ice, float bonds or something to pay for the lost seating and cost of retrofitting, there has to be a way to do this. This will also have the benefit of culling players who can’t skate.

    5. Hang Gary Bettman from the nearest tree. (Did i say that?) The commissioner has to come from within hockey. Dryden, Gretzky, Scotty Bowman… you can hire marketing people.

    I’m sure you guys have a million ideas. Let’s cobble something together. I am dead serious, we need to start somewhere.

    My son and his little friends are all playing hockey now and I want them to grow up with respect for the NHL, not the Gary the Clown show.

    If Martin Luther could reform the church, surely we can reform the NHL. 

    Looking forward to your comments.

     

     

  95. EricInStL says:

    No but when you should be the TOP franchise, you should have some sway. Use your weight. Canadian teams should not have to carry the dead weight of a crappy league.

    If it’s a Canadian game why not. Look what MLB did with the Expos, they didn’t screw around when there are no owners. Adios.

    What I dislike is that everything is being done to cater to a US base that seriously doesn’t care.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  96. The Cat says:

    I wouldnt let players decide too much, they go by a machismo code and most of them arent too bright in things not relating to hockey, most of them piss off their schoolwork etc. I mean look at the crap jacques Plante went through just for the right to wear a mask.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  97. LA Loyalist says:

    Where do I start?

    1. Violence sells in soft markets where people don’t know sh*t about hockey (and care less). Solution? Contraction. 4 teams minimum.

    2. “half the players support fighting” — NO! Half and probably more support the right of players to DEFEND THEMSELVES and their team mates and especially their goalie. We can allow actual fighting between willing combatants and at the same time greatly minimize headshots and excessive violence – which in turn will minimize fighting.

    see my manifesto below to reform the NHL. Add to it, deconstruct it, but let’s start.

    And your last comment?  A slugfest is not what Chara did to Patches.  If a Habs player did the same thing to one of the Bruins I think most of us would be just as disgusted and ashamed, so take your moral presumption and, well, you know…

  98. mrhabby says:

    The hockey played at the Olympics was tremendous..why can’t that be the standard. Did you miss the fighting???

     

  99. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think there’s a point that everyone is missing here, concerning cleaning up the game by eliminating head shots and removing fighting. Violence sells!

    I’m sure the NHL will do what they can to curve head shots and concussions but removing fighting from the game will impact the bottom line. Maybe in Canada people are willing to sit through a snooze fest of a game in mid-February without a fight but people in the States would probably grow tired of it rather quickly. Even a 5-4 game in Boston or Philadelphia without a fight is a letdown for most people.

    The other part of it is that the majority of players support fighting. Half of them want the instigator rule removed and the rest don’t mind fighting being part of the game. And finally, all the players know the risks involved in playing hockey and are paid millions of dollars for taking those risks.

    I’m also quite sure if this Canadiens team had David Backes, Jarome Iginla and Kevin Bieksa on their team and they beat up the Bruins in a slugfest, fighting in hockey wouldn’t be an issue all of a sudden.

     

     

  100. Mark C says:

    Brad ‘the rat” Marchand and Dany Heatley, both have a hearing tomorrow AM, per LeBrun.

    https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/48075241183911936#

  101. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hearing for a Boston Bruin means a friendly and brief phone call from a flunkey.

  102. Hobie Hansen says:

    As I said in my post, the majority of Canadians could sit through a 1-1 hockey game in February without a fight, as could I.

    And the day I see a regular season NHL hockey game that compares to the Olympics, I will eat my hat…

  103. HalifaxHabs says:

    sure, if we contract the league down to about 6 to 8 teams, then we will have the average skill level on each team close to the Olympic standard.

    the NHL will never ever look like the Olympics.

  104. Timo says:

    That would encourage alcoholism.

  105. TheDagger says:

    Not the only 2 still getting paid by an NHL team though haha

  106. Rudy says:

    Very happy for Hammer.

     

    Sorry for the formatting. Here are the first 10 drafted in 1992, I think only Hammer and Cory Stillman are still playing in the NHL.

     

     

    Roman Hamrlik D

    Alexei Yashin C

    Mike Rathje D

    Todd Warriner 

    Darius Kasparaitis D

    Cory Stillman C

    Ryan Sittler

    Brandon Convery C

    Robert Petrovicky C

    Andrei Nazarov

     

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  107. Rudy says:

    Good point :)

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  108. PrimeTime says:

    GM’s now discussing the “spinorama” move in shootouts….I still remember the move by Stamkos on Price and how i questioned if it was legal. The shootout should follow the same rules as a penalty shot….”forward momentum by the shooter must continue through the play…..meaning you can’t stop and change direction.

    I would prefer they get rid of shootouts?? Go 3 on 3 after 5 min of 4 on 4 and the game will probably end quicker than a shootout…and more fairer. Also get rid of the 3 point game….2 points for a win….no ties.

  109. LNev says:

    Overheard during the GM meetings:

    “Yes! Less offensive creativity.  People were starting to enjoy the shootout, time to put an end to fun in hockey and get back to hitting each other in the head!”

  110. G-Man says:

    Long past time to get rid of a tired gimmick. Play the team sport 4on 4 during regular season until there’s a winner. Keep it 5 on 5 in the playoffs until there’s a winner. The Shoot-Out is an affront to common sense in a team game. Equivalents would be Home Run Derby for baseball, a Slam Dunk competition for Basketball, or Field goal kicking in football. All of these would, of course, ruin a perfectly good game. Soccer can keep their stupid penalty kicks; just because that sport has been killed by coaching. Imagine the World Cup being decided over and over by penalty kicks. Awful.

  111. The Cat says:

    I like it. 3 on 3 would have a goal inside the first minute I bet.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  112. habstrinifan says:

    Wish someone would have stood up in that meeting and said “Really.. we are gonna talk about the spinorama move in a shootout?” Are we f… ing stooopid. So many more serious issues.

  113. LNev says:

    Then just a 2min minors and a powerplay for tripping on a breakaway? 

    The act of a shootout is in the game already.  I’m not the biggest fan of them, don’t get me wrong.  I personally find them to be anti-climactic. I’d much rather they spend the extra 10 minutes of scrapping the ice & organizing shooters playing 5 more minutes of 4-4 and 5 mins of 3-3 (or something like that).  But the shoot out isn’t bad, and it’s not something foreign to the game.

    But it’s the NHL.  They can’t do anything right.  AT ALL.  3 shooters instead of 5?  Now they don’t count for tie-breakers?  They don’t explain any choices they make or the processes they go through.  They just do things, leaving everybody to try and come up with a reasonable explaination for such bizarre choices… “people like touch icing, it’s exciting and creates offensive chances!”… yah, once a season a guys wins a race and sets up a goal.  awesome.  I really love watching defensemen slowly skate back, killing time to pick up a puck well after all the rest of the play has stopped.  Sheer excitement.  woo.

    It’s why so many people crap on the NHL.  When they do explain it, it’s a brutal explaination… Colin Campbell doesn make decisions about a Bruins game.  Wicked.  But the guy who reports to him does. 

    So, if you don’t think someone making a decision that directly effects their boss’s son (like the NHL) doesn’t feel any influence or pressure… jeepers.

    Sorry, I clicked the ranting-tangent button on my internet switch. 

    Basically, Shootouts are there, you (the league) has decided to use them, why try and make them more vanilla?

  114. The Cat says:

    3 on 3 would be more exciting than a shootout IMO

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  115. PrimeTime says:

    It’s a team game not a skills competition.

  116. G-Man says:

    “cheaper and younger”. Yes, and way more error prone leading to more goals against. 3 mill for an experienced guy like him- 1 season at a time.

  117. LNev says:

    No worries.  I’m just in an odd mood today… as a long time (years) lurker who has rarely posted… I just felt the need to chirp a bit.  I blame Chara. 

    As much as I like him, I’d prefer they keep Wiz over Hamrlik at this point.  I think he brings more to the game while Hamrlik will forever be diminishing returns.

    Markov/PK/Wiz can handle offense.  Gorges/Spacek (meh)/Weber… ohh yah, Weber.  Ummm… hmmm… That changes things.  I like Wiz’s offense game, but depending on if Weber “has it” or may ever “get it”, well i suppose  one of those two are expendable. 

  118. Bill J says:

    Well seeing as (at least I hope so) Markov & Gorges will be back

    I would prefer the Habs keep Sopel over Hamrlik.

    Markov – Sopel

    Subban – Spacek

    Gill – Gorges.

     

  119. Bill J says:

    I stand corrected.  I coulda sworn it used to say “My favourite Hab” but…

    RetroMikey has had his fair share of “interesting statements” so precedence in his case may have impacted how I read it.

    ;)

  120. LNev says:

    I think this post is quite interesting.  Your favourite Hab is Hamrlik ?

    Really ?

    Not to be an internet defender. BUT… (always a but…) RM said ONE OF his favourite Habs.

    I’d agree.  I like Hamrlik a lot as well.. ONE OF my favourites also.  He’s a workhorse, no BS, honest citizen type player.  I like players like that.  He doesn’t overextend himself and just goes about his business.  Capably doing whatever is asked of him.  And doing it pretty well.  While not too noticeable most nights doesn’t mean he isn’t impactful. 

    Just because he isn’t flashy doesn’t mean he can’t be a favourite, and just because it’s the internet doesn’t mean people can’t have different opinions.

     

  121. RetroMikey says:

    Bill.

    I never said that I wanted Price traded for a bag of pucks and some stick tapes.

    As I stated before, I heard Hamrlik  would love to end his career in Montreal and would take a paycut.

    And yes, he is old but he certainly can outplay the cheaper and younger ones out there and even outshine even the best ones playing in the NHL.

    Roman Hamrlik is a machine! 1300 NHL games as a DMan, what can I say?

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  122. G-Man says:

    Sopel can’t do half of what Hamrlik can.

  123. punkster says:

    Well RM, it seems that hell has frozen over and there will definitely be a blue moon tonight.,,I agree with you. I will not go down the salary road at his time but I certainly would love to see him on the team next season.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  124. Bill J says:

    I think this post is quite interesting.  Your favourite Hab is Hamrlik ?

    Really ?

    Hamrlik > Markov ?

    Hamrlik > Gorges ?

    Hamrlik > Subban ?

    Hamrlik > Plekanec ?

    I won’t even touch Price, who many in the NHL are hailing as a possible Hart candidate – you remember Price right ?  You know the guy you wanted the Habs to trade for a bag of pucks & some stick tape ?

    Hamrlik is fine, but signing him again ?  ONLY if he takes a MASSIVE pay cut (IE in the area of 1-2 Million per season) anything more then that, the Habs can get someone cheaper and younger.

  125. RetroMikey says:

    Kudos for one of my favourite Habs Roman Hamrlik on his 1300th game.

    What a human machine that Czech is!

    One guy who wants to stay and play in Montreal.

    Sign him Pierre!  Sign him!

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  126. avatar_58 says:

    I’m torn. If Spacek weren’t here – YES. Maybe they could trade him in the off season?

  127. SLONCOLD says:

    nh’sl view:

    - Marchand is not that kind of player

    - Marchand didn’t want to hurt him

    - Marchand doesn’t have a history in regards to being suspended

    - it was a hockey play

    - umberger didn’t protect himself

     

     

  128. smiler2729 says:

    Brad Marchand’s a piece of sh*t anyway, he’s one to watch in the future, a combination of Matt Cooke and Sean Avery.

    He’s too stupid to learn how to play good hockey.

    More headshots by elbow in the San Jose-Dallas game, Doug Murray, Dany Heatley (another fine human being) and Steve Ott.  Check each other all you want but keep the iron-padded elbows away from heads, dumbasses.

    I’m getting real tired of this stuff…

  129. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Um yeah, good luck with that.

  130. adam76 says:

    So all the issues stem from ther being american based franchises?

  131. EricInStL says:

    So let’s see what the NHL does for the Marchand hit on Umberger.

    Seriously, if there is no suspension. I would try to start a CPHL, Canadian Professional Hockey League.

    To hell with the USA, those teams can all go bankrupt, we all know it’s the Canadian teams who pick up the slack for these jokers.

    Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Hamilton, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec and a team in the maritimes. Add maybe 3 to 4 other teams that would survive with a salary cap.

    And voilà. Adios Mo Fos….

    Do it our way, the right way, right away.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  132. athanor says:

    It’s that kind of non-call that makes Bettman’s numbers about causes of concussions ridiculous. Presumably it would go on the list as a hockey play.

    I wonder how many other concussions on the list came from similar events.

  133. avatar_58 says:

    didn’t they JUST say a team could be held accountable for this shit? It’s the THIRD suspendable hit in the last 2 weeks by the Bruins. 2 by Chara and now Marchand.

    I guess the goddamn Bruins can do whatever they want right? Oh well, who cares. No conflict of interest at all.

     

    I’m getting really f***ing tired of this

  134. adam76 says:

    agree – its time to ban hitting in the NHL.

  135. wd40 says:

    ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun tweeted:  
     

    My guess, and I stress guess, is that Marchand and Heatley face suspensions for their respective elbows, but Douglas Murray is ok. We’ll see

  136. nick says:

    So I see that the NHL is continuing to make a mockery of itself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0g7_pVqpB0&feature=player_embedded

    Marchand didn’t get called for the hit… I get the impression it’ll be just another “hockey play” and if folks do like it, well they can go @#$% themselves.

  137. The Cat says:

    It was Cooperalls (full length black pants), and the reason they were ousted they say is that goalies couldnt see the puck. That was over 25 years ago I believe.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  138. Habnofear says:

    Was it 15 years ago that CCM came up with new protection and Philly wore it for a year?”As well as the WHL?” And the complaint about it was it made you look smaller and wasn’t traditional looking ,yet was way better protection… Bobby Clark seen this day comming,eh

  139. RGM says:

    What do you mean, “You people?”

    Go Habs Go!

  140. adam76 says:

    YOU people:)

  141. habstrinifan says:

    Glad you mentioned soccer cause it their penalty kick evolvement should be studied by the NHL GM.

     

    Soccer penalty-kickers and the goalies now do a myriad of things which would have been illegal and frowned upon once but now are in keeping with the skill, and entertainment value and imagination of the game and its modern day players.

    NHL GM’S move on to more important matters like concussions and consistent refereeing.

  142. The Cat says:

    Even worse, I think in soccer -before penalty kicks- it was settled by coin toss!

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  143. avatar_58 says:

    Any time I am forced to think about midget troll boy I just remember Subban destroying him at the blueline. Then all is well

  144. ZepFan2 says:

    Welcome to the new NHL: National Headshots League.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  145. SmartDog says:

    I hear there’s a ceremonial tea and then they all play whack-a-mole with the heads of NHL players stuck on the moles heads.  Apparently it’s quite a fun time.

  146. HalifaxHabs says:

    agree

  147. The Cat says:

    I had 3 of those this morning with my brand new espresso/cappuccino machine! I might have to go jogging later.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  148. EricInStL says:

    I don’t understand why Canadian teams have to listen to others speak. Anyway, it’s rainy around here so I feel crabby.

    Maybe a couple of espressos will do the trick.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  149. wd40 says:

    Habs best player on the ice by a factor of 10 was Price. 

  150. dallyd31 says:

    Well of course.  As of the 3rd period last night they had 7 regulars out of the lineup.  The puts A LOT of stress on the rest of the guys

  151. observer says:

    Seen many times before over the last 2 years. And all teams as well look like no-shows many nights. But last night got to take into account all these injuries Habs have right now and players in other positions, good players out, players forced to play more minutes.

  152. mike g says:

    If last night proved something, it was that these guys are out of gas….

    Everyone looked slow, emotionless and as if they were playing their 200th game of the season.

    It sucks to say it, but overtaxing your key players for so long will lead to performances like this.

    Oh well….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  153. kelowna_HAB says:

    BREAKING NEWS!

    As I was walking through orchard park mall in Kelowna BC, I spotted the man, the mystery.. JOSH GEORGES. He looked like he was walking comfortably, sporting a red T-shirt and sweats. I immediately shrieked “HEY JOSH” which caught him a bit off guard. I asked him how he was feeling, he replied that he is feeling well. I wished him luck on the recovery and hope to see him soon on the ice. He replied courteously “thank you” and proceeded into the bathroom from which I did not follow… It took a while to catch my breath and for the color to return to my face, but overall a good encounter!

  154. avatar_58 says:

    Actually the were quite a few coloured photos. Shame photography didn’t even exist when the leafs won it last

  155. Bill J says:

    LMFAO – I like your answer better!

  156. Bill J says:

    You are confused Tony.

    The team that ONLY has pictures with the Cup in Black & White is the Toronto Maple Leafs.

    Colour pictures existed in the 70’s – 80’s & 90’s

    ;)

  157. Danno says:

    At least they’re not cave drawings like the Leafs ;)

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  158. observer says:

    Yup black and white pictures.

  159. Miltie01 says:

    They had leonardo do an oil painting !!!

  160. TheDagger says:

    Plus crosscheck to the head/neck of Moore. Eff the B’s.

  161. LA Loyalist says:

    Because of over-expansion the quality of play is worse, because the quality of the players is diluted.

    I’m not against fair fighting. I’m against cheap use of the stick and head shots. They are two entirely different things. And you can keep hard clean hitting, you just heavily penalize the bad hits and bad apples. They can be bi-furcated by competent officials.

    If we have to have fighting to sell hockey in certain markets, though, screw those markets. Someone has to have some freaking vision and it’s not Gary the Clown Bettman.

  162. G-Man says:

    Remove fighting by giving delay of game penalties, then 5 minutes major for unsportsmanlike, then a game for intent to injure. You cannot say players punching each other in the face are not trying to hurt each other.

    Staged hockey fights do not belong in the game. Recompense for a cheap shot on a teammate? Yes, but you still remove those players from the game.
    If you want to watch UFC or boxing, watch that. I prefer a good game of hockey played without goons.

  163. Everlasting1 says:

    1. The NHL is not a ‘soft market’, and teams get moved for viability (by invested interests).

    2. Lets just say fans don’t support NON-violence. THEY are the market.

    Every hit/contact is a slugfest. And fighting? All the greatest rivalries of the past have the history of dropping them. I’ll leave the morality issue for you to wrestle with..once you step down off your high horse and see the LEAGUE for what it is, what it has always been.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  164. PrimeTime says:

    IMO the biggest mistake by the NHL was the Instigator penalty. It allows fighting in a controlled way. Fighting is a necessity of the game because it regulates the cheap shots we see today. Take a run at my guy and pay a price! It allows the skill guys to play exciting hockey and it provides the physical aspect of the game that all fans love (admitted or not).

  165. Nine1one says:

    If I remember correctly there was a poll and only 2% of players voted  that they wanted to see fighting eliminated.

  166. Hobie Hansen says:

    First off, I never mentioned the awful hit that Pacioretty took had anything to do with fighting?

    Secondly, what I’m trying to convey, is that people pay to see fights. People want fights and the players either want or accept fights. A part of the reason why people watch hockey is the same reason people watch the UFC or NFL.  It’s hard hitting and sometime very violent action.

     

    I myself enjoy a good fight and is that the main reason I watch hockey, definitely not! But the reason I prefer hockey to baseball is its fast paced, hard hitting and very exciting.

     

    If you take away the fights and practically remove hitting, what do we have, soccer on ice?  I think if there were a poll, you’d find that 75% of players and fans would like to keep fighting in the game.

     

    And what’s your reasoning into why an arena full of fans are falling a sleep for 90% of a game and then when a fight breaks out the roof almost comes off the building? 

  167. habstrinifan says:

    Why did you even bother answering that post?  It was so cockeyed and fatuous! See now there’s gonna be a reply to this post and I am gonna have to get down and dirty to defend myself.

     

    Good luck!

  168. Everlasting1 says:

    Oh? You’re implying violence sells more in softer markets within the league?? You have numbers to back up this preposterous conclusion?

    Teams move/expand to where there are suitable markets/investors/facilities, however long it lasts. Not exactly rocket science now is it?

    Clean hard bodychecks still carry an INTENT TO INJURE, not just necessarily playing an opponent off the puck. Emotions can run high in a competitive contact sport with high stakes. Try putting a cap on that, freak. The fans sure don’t care to. Neither does the league. Perhaps hockey is not for you?

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  169. LA Loyalist says:

    1. I said that there were soft markets WITHIN the NHL, not the NHL itself. That is fact

    2. Teams get moved for viability (by vested interests)? Huh? Glad to see that CEGEP thing worked out for you. 

    3. Every hit/contact is a slugfest? No one is complaining about clean hard bodychecks. Most are not complaining about dropping the gloves between two willing participants. 

    4. Fans don’t support non-violence? Again, you are assuming there is a heterogenous market of fans, which of course there isn’t.

    This is probably your dumbest post yet, and that’s saying something.

  170. TheDagger says:

    No one wins the Cup like back in the day.

  171. helluva habs fan says:

    Too true. I think any fan of the team that watches on a regular basis thought we’d at least make the playoffs. After the early season learning curve last season, getting to know each other and the defensive system, they played as much of a ‘team game’ as any other team in the league, culminating in their extended playoff run. They’ve managed to improve on last season, despite key injuries and in spite of Carey Price’s steady play at the worst of times, outstanding play most of the time, and absolute lights out play otherwise. This team is one to two 80+ point scorers short of an Eastern Conference powerhouse status… it’d be nice to see what we could achieve if one of our high profile players has a career season before their contracts expire. How many more of those tight one goal games would we win?

  172. joshua94k says:

    When the season started the Canadiens had a dream team with Markov, Gorges, Cammalleri, Gionta, Price, Plekenac, Subban etc. Yet the so-called experts like Red Fisher, TSN, CBC all didn’t think highly of the Canadiens. Some predicted they wouldn’t make the play-offs.

    The Canadiens proved them wrong and their record was:

    Oct: 7-3-1

    Nov: 8-5-0  (including 4 wins in a row against Van, Bos, Car & Phi)

    Dec: 6-8-1 (their season was on the verge of collapse as injuries to Markov and Gorges took their toll)

    Jan: 6-2-3

    Feb: 6-5-2 (with Markov, Gorges, Gill, Spacek, Wisniewski, Cammalleri injured at various times)

    March: 5-2

    For a team that is supposedly lacking size, toughness, an incompetent coach, among the assesments of this team, they have played remarkably well, placing 6th in the conference.

    It’s not going to be easy the rest of the season heading into the play-offs, but whenever the Canadiens were counted out, they have proven thier detractors wrong.

     

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  173. Rudy says:

    I love pictures like this of the “inner workings” of the team, that’s what I keep coming back for after getting frustrated with the troll talk.

    Thanks Mr. Stubbs

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  174. Habs64 says:

    Hope Plex ok!

  175. punkster says:

    Agree. It will give you one less reason to bitch to us.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  176. adam76 says:

    fingers crossed that Tomas will be back for Thursdays game.

  177. RetroMikey says:

    Yeah Punkster, he is one of my favourites.

    I heard he would take a salary decrease to play in Montreal.

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  178. Dee says:

    Bob Clark said that Chara should have been suspended on the hit on Max.Clark was on Off The Record tonight.Coming from Clark,one of the dirtiest players back in the seventies,He saw what most hockey fans saw and the NHL did nothing, go figure. He also said the same thing that Scotty Bowman said, bring back the red line.

    Habs Fan 4 Ever & Ever Amen.

  179. LA Loyalist says:

    Don’t know if this is true (?) but I recently read it was because players slid to easily when falling creating other collisions. As I said, don’t know if this was fact or not. You’d think they could modify the texture…


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