Picking up the pieces

Inside the room – Hickey

Leighton lights out – Stubbs

Philly in the movies – Stubbs

Bleu blank rouge – Roy MacGregor

• Maybe the magic has evaporated – Damien Cox

Hot Flyers, anemic Habs – Brian Cazeneuve in SI

Coming up empty – Scott Burnside of ESPN

• Too late maybe, but Canadians jump on the bandwagon

And if you think the Canadiens are in trouble, consider the allegedly mighty San Jose Sharks

285 Comments

  1. pic1983 says:

    It seems that theres no confidence or swagger with this team anymore.  A HUGE problem that needs to be recitified if we are going to come back in this series.  I think JM has to reunite the big (little) guns early in the next game to try to generate some offense and get on the board first.  Match up Gio/Gomez/Cammy against philly’s worst D-pairing with last change.  Winning offensive zone faceoffs would also help our cause.

  2. pic1983 says:

    “There is only one answer. HALAK. He needs to play like he has been in the previous games. SIMPLE. Nothing else. Our guys need to finish and make it tougher for Leighton.”

    I dont see why halak is even being questioned here.  The forwards havent scored even a single goal, and they havent shown the character and resiliency that they displayed against pittsburgh and washington. 

    Lets start with scoring a goal before we start saying halak needs to be better.  Was he soft on the late goal yesterday? Sure he was, but its not like the team was even pressing or even looked like they were going to tie it up.  We had 4(?) shots in the third last night? Not good enough.

  3. joeybarrie says:

    For me when the Broadcaster in doing the local commentating like on CJAD they should be in favor of the Home team. He is the voice for Habs fans. Like when P McGuire was here in Montreal. His feed isnt going to the radio in LA for the Kings……..

    Now when they are doing Television on NBC, it is different. Its a National Broadcast and should be un-biased. But when your the commentator for RDS why not lean in the Canadiens favor, 99% of the viewers are Fans of the Habs.

    However, national satellites like XM are changing this.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  4. boris420 says:

    YOu are both typical habs fans…lol

  5. joeybarrie says:

    How many fans started wearing NORDIQUES jerseys??? I remember many many people jumping ship. Desperate to be invloved in a winning team so bad they went with the other Quebec team… Where did that get them. We jump SO EASILY and SO QUICKLY here in Montreal. From we will win the Cup to this team is a fluke… There is really very little support here. Very little individual LOYALTY. We really bash our own PRETTY QUICK.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  6. davecessna says:

    I’d agree with you if Markov wasn’t injured. That, however, is not the case.

  7. G-Man says:

    Being dissed by Henri Richard is not an easy thing to live down in Montreal. Same goes for Claude Ruel.

  8. kempie says:

    And so it begins.

  9. joeybarrie says:

    I gotta go with G-Man below……Why in the world would you fire the coach that got you into the finals??? Especially with an injury plagued team.

    Trading HERO HALAK makes no sense. But in my mind trading Price doesn’t either. They haven’t proven anything consistent yet.

    I don’t understand how JM has screwed up SK Price and OB.  OB scored on himself….Since JM came in he has been getting better. But he is not there yet. it takes time, same with Price. SK SCREWED HIMSELF. He is simply a spoiled little child with no character and no desire to do what you have to in order to be successful. He wants to ride out the limited talent he has and hope it works out for him. Thats the difference between players like Crosby and Ovechkin. They are a product of their hockey experience. Where in Canada and the US we tend to make players work on their weakness’ in order to prepare them, in Russia they tend to rely on their strengths and focus the game around that.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  10. joeybarrie says:

    Who said O’Byrne is the answer to Pronger, Giroux, and Gagne???

    There is only one answer. HALAK. He needs to play like he has been in the previous games. SIMPLE. Nothing else. Our guys need to finish and make it tougher for Leighton.

    Gainey and JM know exactly what to do, so does everyone else…. The question is the players have to do it on the ice. If it was easy then it wouldn’t be the NHL.

    Lets all try to remember that we are missing Markov. But in the end, we were not missing defense last night… We were missing OFFENSE. Halak should have had at least 2 of those goals, and beaing hot, probably could have had all 3.

    Kirk Muller is where he should be, his special teams are doing well. The PK needs work right now. Its not about the Coaches right now, they can only prepare the team so much. I keep hearing OB for MAB… I understand it, BUT AGAIN, we are missing OFFENSE. Why would we put in THE LEAST PRODUCING PLAYER on our roster when we NEED OFFENSE. If OB had of played last night, we still would have 0 goals……………

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  11. punkster says:

    A stunning damnation of your analytical abilities. Thanks for coming out. See you next season.

    FEEL THE PRIDE!

  12. G-Man says:

    “Even if the Habs beat out the Flyers and go all the way to the cup. 1. JM has to go. “

    Wow, fire the coach that wins the Stanley Cup. Brilliant!

    A Gigantic Homer DOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!

    “i would trade Halak simply because i think the series against Phillie is showing that he is too small for today’s game.”

    Wow, get rid of the goalie that got you to the 3rd round of the playoffs.

    2nd Gigantic Homer DOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!

     

  13. HardHabits says:

    Maybe a rubik’s cube is something you have difficulty with but I’ve moved on from that childish little puzzle ages ago.

    Did you witness the 1st two games of the series? Habs haven’t solved Leighton AND their defense. Keep on reading what you want. I know it must difficult to concentrate with your limited cognitive skills but there were more than four words to my sentence.

  14. Clay4bc says:

    “they are anot [sic] an NHL calibre team.”

    Really. How, pray tell, are they in the final four? Did you wave your magic wand and make it so?

    Of all the dumb things I have read here, your line may be the dumbest. Congratulations to you, sir! Although…I do agree with you about Gomez.

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Francois Laignelot

  15. HardHabits says:

    I know more about hockey than you could even imagine.

  16. HardHabits says:

    Well excuse me, the real fan has spoken.

    Yes. I am going to put my tail between my legs and get out of here because of another of PrimeTime’s aka keepthefaith’s accounts. Get real.

    Show me one post where I drag out a regular season stat. C’mon. I dare you. Chicken?

  17. habsguy says:

    try watching a game and you’ll see that if it weren’t for Gomez we wouldn’t EVER cross their blueline with control of the puck…..BTW this (as you call them) “pathetic excuse for a team”  just beat the best team in hockey (Wash) and last years cup winner….But someone like you who would have preferred to have them TANK the season wouldn’t understand that……………..Tank the season,  what kind of fan would want THEIR team to tank a game……and you call yourself a lafluer fan????

  18. FSUPhi1584 says:

    I agree with your evaluation of the D completely: Spacek needs more minutes, should play with Subban, and get some time ont the PP. After all, I think he’s had one on the only point shots that went in for a goal. I disagree with your evaluation of the offense, however.

    All of our players have been really streaky even the “stars.” The only difference is that JM is patient with them and allows them to play on the top line until they get their scoring touch back. He is much less patient with the youngsters because their more prone to having lapses in their defensive game.

    I think JM needs to give pouliot another shot on the Gomez-Gionta line. He’s been the only player that has produced on that line. The “Moen or Pyatt on the top line” experiment has failed all year; it won’t suddenly start working in the playoffs. Pyatt’s shooting percentage is worse than TtB’s (less than 5%). The Habs need to play their game, and stop letting Philly dictate how they play.

  19. AZ_Hab_Fan says:

    I remember in 93 going down 0-2 games to the Nords. We all know how that year ended.

  20. Fansincebirth says:

    I agree…makes the win that much sweeter!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  21. Castor says:

    THAT’S IT. TIME TO BRING IN PICARD FOR A PEP TALK!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr3rlT7NfVU

  22. nunacanadien says:

    Its sad when O’Bryne is our only answer to Pronger, Giroux and Gagne and of course Briere.  We are not stopping any of these bastards who crash the net.  How can a defenseman like Pronger be allowed to skate all the way up to Halak’s blue line?  What gives with that?  When the Flyers can move up and own the zone.  That is not defense, that is not what JM was all about.  Maybe Gainey and JM don’t know what to do with the Flyers.  Maybe its time we let Kirk Muller drive the bus.

  23. SLONCOLD says:

    “What is he a rubiks cube all of a sudden?” awesome lol made me laugh pretty good on that one.

  24. lenny says:

    wow, looks like the bandwagon fans are falling fast…

  25. Ron in Ottawa says:

    It’s hard to critcize this team, since they have done so well in the playoffs, but i still believ some significant changes are needed for next year. Even if the Habs beat out the Flyers and go all the way to the cup.
    1. JM has to go. I give him some credit for the playoff run, but i think most of the credit has to go to Kurt Mueller. He’s the strategist who got Martin to think outside his normal box. This team has been buiolt for speed and finesse and JM is not that kind of coach. He also cannot manage younger players: this year he has made a mess out of O’Byrne, Sergie, and Price. Thank goodness that Max Pac was sent down to Hamilton and spared being part of JM’s mismanagement of young players. Remember, in Ottawa he refused to play Spezza in the playoffs. Once he was gone Spezza played and the team went right to the Cup finals.
    2. the Kostisen experiment must be ended. Neither seems able of willing to play up to the potential in Montreal. Package them and trade them away- far away.
    3. create some cap space by bundling in Hamerlik and one of the goalies. i would trade Halak simply because i think the series against Phillie is showing that he is too small for today’s game.As long as refs allow players to jam the goalie in the blue paint, smaller goalies like Halak are going to suffer. if we do decide to keep him but trade Price, them we need bigger more agile defense men who can clear the opposition out of the crease. Look at what Pronger is doing.

  26. SLONCOLD says:

    i just got sad because you made me think of my lost expos :-(

  27. CHsam says:

    We need a consistent team to win this…. and looking back at this year I have to say that consistency has not been a strong point with guys like AK46, SK74, LARAQUE, LATS, POULIOT, LAPS, and my favorite- MAB.

    Guys like Gio, Gomez, Cammy, Pleks just can’t keep picking it up for these guys all year round, and now its starting to show in the playoffs. MAybe we can still make something out of Pouliot, but the Kost brothers have been a failure of an experiment. Where’s Laraque now? Laps has returned somewhat but still…

    I’m not going to get going on the D..thank god we have a bright talent in PK. Like many have said before, we should forget using MAB, put Spacek back on the left side, have PK run up the right. I dont think MAB’s water pistol shots are scaring anyone anymore. He’s the one who’s sh*t scared.

  28. FSUPhi1584 says:

    A few observations from last night:

    • Cammy and PK are trying to do too much
    • Gionta is taking bad shots
    • Gomez seems to be rattled and hesitant to shoot
    • Moen has been ineffective on the first line. I believe he is too slow to play effectively with Gionta and Gomez.
    • That third goal sucked all the energy out of the team
  29. bigjames says:

    we’ve moved from the k era to the g era. i loved kovy too but i love winning more!

  30. Caballero says:

    Clearly the Habs have a harder time with teams like Philly, Toronto and Boston and any team in the West. I wish someone would do something about that because you tend to face those teams on the way to a cup. Well maybe not Toronto.

  31. deggy24 says:

    The wierd thing about this series is that we’ve actually had one stretch in each game where we have dominated and created reasonable opportunities, I think 11-2 shots over a span in the first game, and something like 13-2 in the second. The Flyers are capitalizing on mistakes and opportunities, either shooting over the shoulder of Halak, or in the pads for rebounds. We can clearly beat these guys. Hoping the pucks start crossing their goalline early and often.

    Our lack of discipline is astounding. Last night’s game actually saw the refs favoring the Habs.

    I’m impressed with overall play of the Flyers in terms of skating and shooting. And our rope a dope, leave too much gap defense isn’t helping. Not playing OB is idiotic, and playing -11 MAB moronic. I’m sure the club’s morale would be low having a coach that boneheaded. And don’t tell me he is a great coach when the only way we won was on unbelievable goaltending 

    Gill and Gorges appear hurt, and have been mediocre. Of course PK had a disaster first game, but played well last night.

  32. bigjames says:

    agree HH. although disappointed by our showing in philly (how could you not be!) there were some positive things. having said that, i was stunned by the third goal last night. jaro was napping IMHO. a lot of people crapped on benny with just cause. but ironically i thought he had his least bad outing in game one. i would put him back on thursday and see if he is hungrier.

    i am also in the camp that thinks that leits did not make any ‘incredible’ saves. i just don’t think we got many (if any) incredible chances. that has to change. philly is much more aggressive in their zone than was or pits and we need to figure that out. long odds to win this but not impossible. GO HABS GO!

  33. jimmy shaker says:

    Please don’t hurt yourself falling of the bus or the bandwagon!  WOW!  You weren’t spewing this frustrated lead rant a week ago!  Relax.  Philly is doing the job and we need to come back and win our home ice! 

    Shaker

  34. HNS says:

    We win on thursday and then the series is 2-1. Relax everyone. Habs in 7. We’ll spot them 2. No big deal.

  35. habbytown says:

    what I want to know is how to get rid of Gomez and his contract????

    can he be bought out? put in the minors? we know he can’t be traded because nobody could possibly be as stupid as Gainey, or can they?  aside  from PG, no nobody else.

    GOMEZ MUST GO! or else we have no cap swpace to offer a big contract to Kovalchuk.

    and Plekanec, needs to go also. I don’t care if we have an entire AHL team, I don’t want the K bros, MAB, Hamrlik, Gomez, Plekanec, Darche, Metro, Lapierre, Price, Pouliot!!! no no no! they all need to leave.

    I would have preferred for this team to tank, get a good draft pick. they are anot an NHL calibre team.

    they simply overachieved like 2008, that’s all. but this is definitely the real habs now, just like the regular season. can’t score now, and was dead last 5 on 5 in the regular season.

    and their PP stinks. if you have to rely on 1 player for your team to score, you’re in trouble. Markov is not the answer. coaching, unwilingness to go to the net.

    and my biggest peave: THIS TEAM CAN’T PASS THE PUCK. DO YOU EVER SEE 2 CONSECUTIVE PASSES MADE?

    THEY HAVE TO BE THE MOST INACCURATE TEAM INB THE ENTIRE NHL, AND IT’S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS!

    THEY NEED TO LEARN TO COMPLETE A PASS !!!!!!  what a pathetic excuse for a team.

  36. SLONCOLD says:

    I’m not a fan of Bob Cole (i know he’s called some great games back in the day ). But everyone here complains when we get  bias commentators on CBC. You should listen to the XM/sirius feed if you have a chance. The team from philly actually does a very good job calling the game. It’s alright to get excited when calling a goal but commentators should call good plays on either side with just about the same amount of energy. just my opnion on it…

  37. lenny says:

    I believe Dave Van Horn and Ken Singleton got pretty excited whe nos amours would knock in a couple of runs!

  38. nickster13 says:

    agree on all counts

  39. HardHabits says:

    Halak can play super-human. It wont make a difference if the rest of team can’t solve Leighton and Philly’s defensive posture.

    I can’t believe anyone would even think that any of this is Halak’s fault.

  40. HardHabits says:

    OK. So let me get this straight. After two losses where the Habs haven’t scored 1 goal you’re accusing those who doubt as not being real fans?

    Are you the same person who posts as keepthefaith and PrimeTime?

  41. SLONCOLD says:

    I hear what you are saying. and you’re right that halak had some serious help from his defense in the other series in regards to clearing rebounds. I have to say though, Leighton has been waived how many times in his career? He’s not a good goalie….

    Habs have to build plays where the trailing forward antisipates where the rebound might go and then fight to get to that area

  42. HardHabits says:

    MEMO: The regular season doesn’t matter. The Habs sucked last two games, the Flyers didn’t. Which part of that concept can’t you wrap your mind around?

  43. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    They guys on CJAD do an excellent job – and Murray Wilson in particular is a pleasure to listen to.

    what is so awful about a broadcaster who is cheering for the Habs?????

    would you rather have Bob Cole – who, after the Flyers took a too many men on the ice penalty said…

    “Canadiens are having enough trouble handling 5 Flyers, they don’t need to face 6 of them”.

    And this was immediately after we had just DOMINATED the ice in the first period for about 10 minutes straight.

    Please.

    I’ll take my Pro Habs broadcast any day.

    I feel “connected” to fellow Habs fans when I hear Murray Wilson cheer!~!!!!

  44. Psycho29 says:

    No team in NHL history ever shut out another team in the first 2 games and scored 9 goals or more themselves as they did it. Until the “great” Leighton the last 2 games and his team.

     

     

    Actually in the 1969 quarterfinals the Bruins beat the Leafs in the first two games 10-0 and 7-0

     

  45. alestar says:

    MAB isn’t taking any shots…its his only talent…if he’s not going to shoot, I’d rather have O’Byrne’s size and at least the possibility of some defensive play.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  46. SLONCOLD says:

    i think jaro has been our best player and also has to be our best player. cammy has been awesome as well, by far our most dangerous snipper.

    also about the bad penalties, lack of scorring defensive mistakes, those all get covered up when your goalie plays out his mind and are completely forgotten when u win games 2-1, 3-2.

    can’t win if you can’t score though. i guess one positive thing is we haven’t wasted a great goaltending performance in this series yet…. it would suck so much more to lose 1-0 or 2-0 in back to back games. habs know whatever they are doing ain’t working so maybe they’ll come up with something to get around pronger and who i think is playing super well timonen

  47. idle says:

    ” His positioning has been off and their have been huge rebounds and he
    looks lost and surprised half the time he makes a save… Key to beating
    goalies is gettign the puck up, score on second chances and get the
    goalie moving side to side. we’re not doing any of that, so leighton
    gets gets to look like he belongs in the nhl…”

     

    A bit of sour grapes maybe?  Leighton has 2 straight shutouts, has made 58 saves and is the goalie for the team that has a 2-0 series lead.  Don’t you think he deserves some credit?  Kind of reminds me of when Halak was playing so well in the Washington and Pittsburg series and non Habs fans were saying they were all easy shots and he was letting out big rebouds and he was lucky.

     

    It’s a MAB MAB world.

  48. Mike Boone says:

    Guess again, Broadcasters, in all sports, are paid by the team.

  49. Canadiangrrl says:

    True.  Philly could use a few sneaky Kovalev elbows right about now.

  50. SLONCOLD says:

    have you listened to muray wilson on cjad? he’s gotta be the worst color commentator…. Like habs score and he’s like “yessssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” or a goal against and he’s like “ohhh nooooooo”.

    I though braodcasters had to be somewhat neutral and not cheer for a team while calling the game? i listened to the XM feed and heard the philly crew do the game. pretty good actually and fair when calling the game.

  51. Canadiangrrl says:

    The Habs won the first two series by Jaro being spectacular, yes, but they also won by scoring goals.  Jaro can be less than spectacular some nights and as long as we score, we’re still in the running.  He was less than spectacular last night, and we didn’t score.  Ergo, we didn’t win.  Same with Sunday night. 

    Look at it this way — you think Halak’s been the best player for the Habs.  Okay, fine.  But you can’t discount Cammalleri’s contribution.  What has he done this series?  What have any of the forwards done, aside from take dumb calls and not do what they’re supposed to do, which is set up and score goals?  How many times have we seen Leighton give up a rebound and no one is there to even try to put it away?

     

  52. HardHabits says:

    I was thinking more for their size. The Habs inability to get into the dirty zones is what’s killing them and it’s because they don’t intimidate anybody out there.

  53. dh says:

    But we also put people on Ovechkin and Crosby and prevented them from shooting. This is exactly what they are doing to us with Pronger on Cammallerri. We should be able to get around that with last change at home or, even better, get some secondary scoring by pushing a stronger net presence.

  54. HardHabits says:

    Yep. It pains me to say this but I respect that bunch. Unlike the Pittsburgh whiners.

  55. jimmy shaker says:

    I hate Laviolette almost as much as lindsey (lindy) ruff….let’s stick it to him the same way he stuck it to us when he coached Carolina and they were down 2-0 in the series before storming back and winning the next four.  Let’s do the same thing here and get sweet revenge.  Plus, I love seeing him explode behind the bench when things get out of hand for his teams….He almost looks ready to cry when he’s losing it!  And last one, can CBC get rid of Galley?  Man, I used to like him, but in the last 4 or 5 games he’s just been a huge arcehole.  His stupid comments are so enraging to me, that I have to keep saying to myself “Serentiy now, serenity now”.  Bring back Millen or something.  Get that puke out of  here!

    Shaker

  56. SLONCOLD says:

    indeed.  However, habs didn’t win games in the first 2 series by being an offensive powerhouse. habs rely on jaro to be perfect. when he isn’t the habs best player on the ice, the team has problems

  57. Canadiangrrl says:

    I love Kovalev, the brilliant Kovalev, but if the melancholy Kovalev were to show up, forget it.  Komisarek?  Nah.  There’s another K whose heart and commitment we could use right about now…

  58. Canadiangrrl says:

    You’re right, but MAB is a convenient target, given his lacklustre play.  Replacing him won’t win us the series, and we need to get a whole lot better offensively, but to me, he’s the weakest link.

  59. Canadiangrrl says:

    The difference is that we haven’t score a single goal.  Not one.  Halak could be better, but when the team plays like crap, you leave your goalie open.  Halak has been just average, sometimes great, and the rest of the team?  Not even close.

  60. SLONCOLD says:

    difference is halak isn’t making super human saves. in past games the 1st and 2nd goal get stopped by halak.

    Timonem has been philly’s best player on the ice. he’s been closing the gap on just about every rush we try to bring into their zone.

    I laugh at the media saying leighton is playing lights out… His positioning has been off and their have been huge rebounds and he looks lost and surprised half the time he makes a save… Key to beating goalies is gettign the puck up, score on second chances and get the goalie moving side to side. we’re not doing any of that, so leighton gets gets to look like he belongs in the nhl…

    JM’s coaching and BG’s successes in the first 2 rounds relied on  spectacular goaltending to cover up bad penality and defensive mistakes. If halak can’t find his super human game, this could be an ugly series, beacuse i don’t see the offense coming any time soon…

  61. HardHabits says:

    Last night I had too many bottles in front of me and not enough frontal lobotomies.

  62. DavidKB says:

    “These aren’t your father’s Flyers. Philadelphia plays tough; but under Peter Laviolette, they also play smart.” – Mike Boone.

    I’ve never liked the Flyers. I liked Rick MacLeish; he had skill and style. But the legacy of the BSBs sticks in my throat. It’s kind of hard to hate these Flyers though, for the reason Mike stated. They are not bullies, they just play tough, and smart.

    Go Habs!

  63. Fansincebirth says:

    I think someone should show JM two pictures.

    1) Gionta standing in front of Leighton ‘trying’ to screen him

    2) our guys not in the crease after loose pucks….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  64. Malreg says:

    People really need to let up on the whole MAB and O’Byrne thing.

    Last time I checked, we need GOALS.  How does replacing MAB with O’Byrne help us with that?  So instead of losing 3-0 we might lose 2-0?  Awesome.

  65. Hobie Hansen says:


    I’m not
    close to giving up on this group of guys even though things seem to be playing
    out the way one would think.

    Washington
    had some big bodies on their roster but didn’t really play that smash mouth
    brand of playoff hockey you’d think they would. Montreal was given quality
    scoring chances and pounced on them on their way to winning the series.

    In last year’s
    playoffs Pittsburgh had the perfect mix of scoring and toughness but this year
    against Montreal , Staal was out for a few games and Guerin missed one or two.
    Montreal wasn’t pushed around too badly and managed to capitalize on their
    chances and take the series.

    Philadelphia
    is hot and healthy, minus Jeff Carter. Love him or hate him, Don Cherry is
    usually correct when he analyzes playoff hockey and I believe him when he says
    Leighton and Pronger are having little difficulty handling the Habs in front of
    the Philly net.  The Flyers are bigger
    and stronger and seem to be controlling the play by forcing the Habs to take
    low percentage shots.

    Montreal can
    turn the tide I believe back at the Bell Centre. They won’t out muscle the
    Flyers or intimidate them but I think with the wild crowd behind them they can
    buzz around the Philly net like a pack of angry wasps and pot some goals. Halak
    has to heat up again and guys like Plekanec and A. Kostitsyn have to start
    contributing.

    Philadelphia
    has a balanced attack so Gorges and Gill aren’t going to play as big a role so
    we need to take the fight to the Flyers.   

    Go HABS Go!!!!!
      

     

  66. davecessna says:

    Now there’s the team we knew and loved from the regular season. Begone with the bunch of overachievers, welcome back Habs!

  67. HardHabits says:

    The heart transplant has not been as successful as first imagined. Check to see if there’s a pulse because it looks like the Habs have flat-lined. Will they comeback from the dead? Is it time for me to bring out the big guns?

    I can’t believe I am saying it but the Habs are missing Komisarek and Kovalev this series.

     

  68. habsfan_61 says:

    wtf is mab doing in the lineup?because of his point shot on the pp?he has 1 goal. plus the opposition is keying on him effectively taking away that shot. is jm’s strategy just that? leave 1 man to key on mab and have others open. and how’s that working for you jm?.another beef i have is why dress a 4th line when cumalitively they play 5 mins. you can the see the rest of the forwards were getting gassed in the 2nd. brilliant line management jm.also, why isnt ob playing since he is supposed to physical and philly is a physical team./ couldnt we use him?philly is only using 4 dmen for the most part, why havent we shot the puck into the corner and make these guys work therefore tiring them out by the late 2nd or 3rd period.still credit goes to philly for shutting us down so far. still early enough to make adjustments and make a series of it. cmon kirk you the man. we know youre the real coach of this team come up with  game plan and lets beat those bums. go habs go

  69. habsguy says:

    still sticking needles into carey I see…..

  70. Caballero says:

    This whole thing is in the mind. Get some sports psychologists in there to remind the team that the flyers got in through a shootout victory; they just aren’t that good. Their best forwards are in fact not that big. They will be destroyed if they make it to the final. Their goalie and the entire team is riding on this BS confidence that was the result of Boston completely dropping the ball. Thus, somehow the Bruins screw us again.

  71. Habs4ever Fan says:

    We will overcome this 2-0 deficit

    PLEASE JM use your brain….There is no one NO ONE, who wants to see MAB on the ice. Unless he is your wife’s nephew, leave him in the press box in favor of Ryan Obyrne

    Use your 4th line for more than 5 minutes. You may be surprised and rewarded!

    Do not bring in Carey Price. He is far from the answer and he won’t make the key saves when you most need them. The way Carey over commits to one side or the other on any 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 will give the Flyers all the empty net space they need to win a game! The Flyers have been great at creating these odd man rushes and Carey won’t handle them.

    Put RO or HG on the power play in front of their net. Let them try and clear the front without creating penalties. Old trick from Scotty Bowman who knows a bit more than you do!

    JM, stop thinking that if the Habs lose that they will fire Gautier and promote you! It wont happen.

    Habs player play well for the team IN SPITE of JM’s coaching skills. Let Kirk coach

  72. jimmy shaker says:

    seems like the flyers can do no wrong right now and we cannot generate or sustain any momentum or goals for that matter. It almost reminds me of how the cubs beat the flyers the first 3 games of the last series. The Flyers to me played decent in those first 3 games but they came up short somehow. Now grant it that they never were shutout, but there are some similarities. We need to win the next 3 games in a row if not 4…..But it all starts on Thursday, and by any means necessary the boys have to come out with a win!

    Shaker

  73. SLONCOLD says:

    XM for most games just carries teh regional feed. for philly they r picking up the flyers feed

  74. SLONCOLD says:

    halak hasn’t proved anythign yet? really?

  75. Natrous says:

    Ron, if you’re from Ottawa or lived here when JM coached the Sens, you should look back to what actually happened instead of writing the above.

    “This team has been buiolt for speed and finesse and JM is not that kind of coach.” – did you see the team he coached in Ottawa? He coached from ’95 to ’04, with guys like Hossa, Havlat, Redden, Alfredsson, Bonk, Prospal, etc. They were ALL speed and finesse. JM is definitely qualified to coach those types of players.

    “Remember, in Ottawa he refused to play Spezza in the playoffs.” – Spezza was a rookie at the time and an absolute defensive liability (up there with MAB), which made sitting him a no-brainer at the time. It wasn’t until years later that Spezza improved in his own end and wasn’t as much of a risk.

    “the Kostisen experiment must be ended” – That’s Pierre Gauthier’s job, not JM’s. Sergei probably won’t play for the Habs again (there I go saying that for the third time this season) and AK46 has one year left on his deal.

    “create some cap space by bundling in Hamerlik and one of the goalies.” – good luck finding a taker for Hamrlik, so doesn’t want to send another equally-sized cap hole back to us.

  76. AndyF says:

    Wow, I never thought there would be so many negative comments after the Habs played such a good game!   I’m starting to think I didn’t watch the same game as the rest of you…

     

    I saw a game where the Habs power play was clearly better than it had been in Game 1.   I saw a Flyers bench full of very unhappy faces.   I saw the Habs out-skate the Flyers last night.   And I saw some pretty slow Flyer forwards.  

     

    If anyone thinks this series is over, you’re dead wrong!    The Habs, admittedly, were slow getting out of the box.   But last night was the beginning of a small amount of doubt planted in the Flyers players’ minds.   The game could easily have been 4-2 Habs.   The Flyers benefitted from a couple of lucky breaks and a slight bit of poor goaltending from Halak.   

     

    Anyone who gives up on our team now hasn’t understood what this team is all about…

     

    Go, Habs, Go!

     


    AndyF

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  77. BJ says:

    The Flyers are doing to us what we did to the Caps and Pens. They plug up the middle and we have no rebounds possibilities and little pressure can be sustained, the very few times we have Leighton made a few good stops (but we are making him look good). The Flyers D outmuscle our forwards by keeping them to the outside and winning most of the board battles. We have a good unidimentional team that needs to add some muscle. We have the speed but little muscle to drive to the net. I for one would try and get a Thornton out of Boston for a start, he will be a UFA. Probably 1 tough defenseman and 1 top power forward might put us over the top. The Flyers are the type of team we have difficulty with because of our size.

  78. StevieRay says:

    no…. but that’s not a surprise … he looks girlie !!!

  79. TripleX says:

    Putting in a player who has effectively been banished from the team and has not played in well over a month makes little sense.  But if you do put in an offensive player whose strengths are passing and vision, at least put him where he can possibly succeed.  Putting SK on the fourth line for 4 minutes of ice time is dumb.  Put him on PP at the point where that vision and passing ability makes sense, and put him with other skilled players who might convert those passes.

    JM continually puts players in the wrong positions.  MAB has a great shot but little else.  Don’t play him as a regular D on 5 on 5 plays.  O’Byrne is 6’5″ and is a huge body but not fleet of foot.  He excels against teams that play the cycle game along the boards because he can use that size and strength.  Of course JM puts him in the press box.  This team has always had trouble with scoring beyond Cammi and Gionta.  So why not play Pouliot a big skilled forward, and when JM does he puts him on the fourth line? 

    If the team is going to lose, at least lose with the best possible team out there.  Does any journalist ever question the roster moves of JM?

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  80. habs001 says:

    the only way we have a chance vs the flyers if the same thing happens that happened vs the caps and pitts…we got unbelievable goaltending, camm and gion score and the flyers goalie gives up bad goals to our non scorers….

  81. goalieguy says:

    That’s just assinine talk…the kind that dominates this site whenever the Habs lose. I’m as disappointed as anybody. But as soon as the team loses there is a faction on here that rushes to blame the goalie. It happens to both Price and Halak. I thought the Halak bashers were pretty much gone after the first two rounds, but this Makka guy is a bigger loser than most.

    Somebody earlier said that Halak is part of the reason the team lost. That’s obvious. It’s a team game.

    Is Halak going to let in a soft goal sometimes? Yes he is. Does that suddenly mean it’s a great idea to put in a goalie who’s played one full game in the past month? No. And if the team doesn’t start putting the puck in the net, it’s all moot anyway.

  82. TripleX says:

    All your comments are illogical, juvenile, irrelevant, inflammatory, uninformed, moronic and boring.  Should we assume that applies to your personality and character?

    Price is on the bench you really should have gotten used to it by now.  Let it go dude.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  83. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pacioretty back in? That would be of great relief, some depth! I hope Boucher reunitres White/Palushaj/Pacioretty, that was a great line to watch in action.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  84. habbytown says:

    you are correct. we have lost the first 2 games because of Halak.

    time for Price to take over.

  85. TripleX says:

    You mean there really was no “system”?  I am shocked.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  86. savethepuck says:

    Well said and totally agreed but if you don’t want to hear negative comments about the HABS, this is the wrong place to be.  You’ll see more on the bandwagon, off the bandwagon here more than anywhere.

     

  87. smiler2729 says:

    It’s only two games but the Habs need a shot and I really believe that with Halak tiring and all the so-called pedigree crap heaped on Price that Carey will be given Game 3 start to see if he has the gonads to be what he can be or not. That’s the beauty of having two quality goalies, use ‘em.

    Management also has to see, given the RFA status of both goalies this summer, which tender has the right stuff in the long run.

     

  88. SLONCOLD says:

    markov might not be ready for september… he has a torn ACL and most likely meniscus damage ( that being his set back). he’s done for the year.

  89. Say Ash says:

    You’re absolutely right. It’s part of your game or it’s not. It’s like telling Moen to start sniping goals from the half boards on one knee. “No prob, coach!”

  90. HabsFanInVictoria says:

    For about 3 weeks I was a pretty happy with the posters on this site.  It seemed like many of the regulars who have spent the last 82 games bashing this team, were finally onboard.  Funny, it took only two losses…

    Seriously people, enough on Gomez.  Is he the villain of the week? Yes, he is overpaid.  So what, we (himself included) can’t help that now.  He’s giving what he can, and doesn’t deserve the blame for the loss.  He has 11 points in 16 playoff games.  So what, he has 1 goal.  He’s not a goalscorer, he’s a setup man.   Plekanec has 11 points, equal numbers.

  91. SLONCOLD says:

    are cammy, gionta, gomez, pouliot, plekz tired too? they didn’t score and are small players so they must be tired….

    You don’t mess with your goalies right now and experiment with Price. Did luongo get benched? did rask get benched, nabokov? Really.. putting price in is really a hail mary pass. basically you’re hoping for price to steal a game?

  92. SLONCOLD says:

    secondary scorign would help us a great deal. it would take a lot of pressure off our first line and force the flyers to worry about shutting down more than one line.

  93. Xtrahabsfan says:

    NO ! YA HEAR ME SMILER…N   O !!!!

  94. HardHabits says:

    This series was over in 2003. The year the Habs picked AKostitsyn and not Mike Richards (or Ryan Getzlaf or Jeff Carter).

  95. habs63 says:

    Is there a practice today?

    or was today a travel day?

  96. Instant Karma says:

    You are asking a little too much here, moves that make sense? Pfft!

  97. Instant Karma says:

    JM doesn’t run practices, just holds optional skates where only those not dressing for the game show up. Work on the PP, breakouts, maybe PASSING? Nope, JM just prays that Halak will stand on his head and steal another game, making JM look good when really he is useless.

  98. SeriousFan09 says:

    Move on HH, we’re a month from the 2010 draft. You have to let things go.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  99. Say Ash says:

    But we beat the Caps because we took him instead of Eric Fehr? WTF?

  100. Habs4ever Fan says:

    I agree

    Good game

    Lousy outcome

    We need some bounces and MAB on the 4th line with Obyrne playing

     

  101. namgel says:

    Everyone we need some positive energy.  Everybody write

     

    Ettttttttttttttttttttttttttt  le Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttt  Gionta !!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Sub in your own name !

  102. Bob Barker says:

    oh snap

  103. BJ says:

    The series is not over yet. I remember the 1966 series vs Detroit in the finals. We dropped the first two at home and came back to win in OT in Detroit. I know that was 44 years ago but the point being that we win the next two at home and its tied again. And if we don’t the experience gathered + making it as far as 4 teams standing, hey we’ve been entertained and its not over yet.

  104. mbplekfan says:

    MAB played about the worst game Ive seen from a defenceman in a long time. That guy is effectively working for the other team.

    We dont need his shot on the PP if the rest of the time he is such a liability.

    We need at least one physical defenceman in the lineup.

    After we were down 3-0 last night we could at least have run a few flyers. But instead it was them who started running us.

    We have no physical answer once the score is out of hand. We just fold up our tent and go home.

  105. HABZ24 says:

    it looks like were out of gas. halak looks burnt. start price hes rested.plek is doing sweet bugger all.these flyers grind you,and we are intimidated to the point of giving the puck up to quickly.

  106. fun police says:

    a couple of things.  first of all, cbc was absolutely terrible.  bob cole can’t help himself, he hates the habs.  every comment is negative.  healy ran little talking points between plays and refused to talk about the habs.  at one point he showed a clip of pronger pinching in and backing off and actually said “he’s a shark waiting to pounce????” even galley was a flyer at one point.  two leaf lovers and a former flyer calling hab games.  

    a game like last night is hard to analyze because we were canadiened last night.  i find myself sounding like crosby today “we outchanced them, they were opportunistic blah blah blah.”  the fact was, as vigneault said last week, our goalie was the second best goalie on the ice.  not that halak played bad by any means, he just didn’t make the saves when we needed them.  briere scored on their third shot while leighton was stopping everything.

  107. pic1983 says:

    I accept your statement, but I do not forgive gomez for the foolish penalties he took early in back to back games negating our powerplays.  Saku was famous for that…

  108. W35T5ID3 says:

    et la but gionta,et la but gomez,et la butsx3 camalerri,et la but et la but et la buuuuut!

  109. W35T5ID3 says:

    quit your whinin’.They won both at home and now it’s our turn to win both at home.This series ain’t over by a longshot.

  110. TripleX says:

    If the goalies were switched last game the score would have been 6-0 for Flyers.  Flyers had fewer shots but the shots were all in prime scoring positions the Habs shots were all from the perimeter and easy for the goalie to see.  The only goal Halak should have stopped was the third goal, but the game was over anyway at that point.

    Blaming Halak is silly when the Habs have been shut out for two straight games dude.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  111. W35T5ID3 says:

    It sounds like u are constipated with gas.This is round 3 baby,suck it up.We gotta leave it all out there on the ice.We’re that close to the dance,we’ve gotta play like we want make it to th finals.So far we arent.

  112. W35T5ID3 says:

    hooray,yah blah dude our focus is with the big club!!

  113. TripleX says:

    So Gomez is a setup man?  Pleks is being trashed as a huge playoff disappointment and he has the same points.  Gomez is the great setup guy and playoff performer…..wow I am still waiting.  Pleks is not supposed to be a No.1 center and does not get 7.3 million per season.  That salary brings high expectations and is very relevant when assessing Gomez.  If he was getting 4 million a year….great performance.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  114. Bob Barker says:

    I doubt it. There was 10 minutes left when the third goal went in. The game was hardly over. The whole team needs to be better, including Halak.

    When Halak’s at his best, none of those goals would have beat him. 

  115. TripleX says:

    So a team that had not scored a goal in 110 straight minutes was going to score TWO in the last 10 minutes.  UMMMMMM….yeah!

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  116. Bob Barker says:

    Because two-goal deficits are insurmountable leads. The point is, the third goal killed any real shot at a comeback. Hopefully the offense finds its groove in game 3 and Halak plays to his ability. 

  117. Reefer64 says:

    Sidney Crosby’s “History Will Be Made”commercial:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFSMw8vJfo

     

    MrB

  118. chilli says:

    Start Halak. I personally don't feel like a "drastic" move would necessarily be helpful.  To me it reeks of desperation.  I guess we kinda are, but still.  Unless we legitimately think Price will perform better as a goalie than Halak will, I wouldn't do it. 
    We know the game plan - get more traffic in front of the net and use our speed to create chances.  We simply need to have our players execute.  We can't afford to keep going to the box (hi there 91!) or firing blanks on the powerplay or having 90+% of our team unable to put a single biscuit in the basket if their lives depended on it (hi there 57, 46, 74, 14, 32, 75, 26, 76, 47, 6, 44, 52, 15, 94)!
    

    Here we go boys!

  119. j2w4habs25 says:

    the last two games were totally deserved wins by the goaltender Leighton. Happy Birthday to him today, and once this series hits to the great city of Montreal we gotta show them our style.

    Its not over yet, we havent seen our team play against this Flyers in the Bell Centre at home with their home fans getting under the Flyers skin. Those fans really can get any under any teams skin.

    These two games are totally ours!

  120. K-hab25 says:

    You describing yourself there PG. Makka has a point, if he was the “ONLY REASON” we won according to you and the holy house of Halak. Then I guess he’s the “ONLY REASON” that we lost aswell. He needs to start scoring goals and playing tough D, like he was the first 2 rounds, when he was winning games all by himself.

  121. mbplekfan says:

    considering that no MTL forwards got within two feet of a rebound or the goalie for two straight games I’d be interested to know how Leighton deserved the win.

    He faced all perimeter shots, didnt have to worry much about rebounds and saw everything.

    The depressing thing is that their goalie is much bigger than any of our forwards ( except Moen) and isnt bothered much by little Gionta or Cammy buzzing around.

    Our 180 lb forwards arent really doing much against their 220 lb defencemen. I guess 40 lbs makes a difference when establishing body position in the crease. Who knew???

  122. TripleX says:

    Actually in a bizzaro world way you have a point.  When Halak is average the team is incapable of winning.

    But you miss the obvious flaw in your theory.  For a team to win it must score at least ONE GOAL.  If the Habs lost 2-1 then it might hold water but to hold a goalie responsible when his team fails to score in both games is a bit of a stretch.

    It does prove my point that the so called “system” is a joke and a hoax.  There is no “system”. There is only Halak standing on his head and Cammi scoring at a ridiculous rate.

    JM is a charlatan and a fake genius.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  123. Kooch7800 says:

    Been in plenty of games like that.  Nothing takes the wind out of your sails like a bad goal when you are already down.  I would go with Halak next game but if he would be on a short leash.

    Habs need to score. Bottom line.  Next game will be ours! 

  124. SeriousFan09 says:

    What do Duncan Keith and Shea Weber have in common? They were 2nd-round draft choices, selected after favourites like Jay Bouwmeester, Joni Pitkanen and Ryan Whitney (3rc, 4th and 5th overall) in 2002 for Keith and in 2003, Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf and Seabrook (7, 8, 9, 14th overall) are drafted.

    Keith and Weber can be considered top 10 NHL defencemen, Keith is a Norris candidate and likely winner this year and Weber rocked it at the Olympics, given a mulligan, I suspect many teams would swap to get these two players instead of who they drafted. I imagine in a couple years, every team will look back on 2007 in the frame of “why didn’t we draft Subban?”

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  125. HardHabits says:

    What’s yours?

  126. K-hab25 says:

    I’m not blaming Halak, I’m being a smart***. I think he was obviously a big part of the 2 series wins, but not the “ONLY REASON”, like so many have claimed. I think both goalies get way to much credit and blame for there wins and losses. It’s clear to me though, that Halak gets much more credit, than blame and Price gets alot more blame, than credit. IMO

  127. RockinRey says:

    MAB is the lightning rod but I think he should be spotted more. For the life of me I don’t understand why guys are inserted and then played 5 min. What this shows is the true lack of depth on the Habs.

    Bottom line is Gomez , Pleks , and Andre have not got it done!

    If they go down 0-3 that is it! So at this point the certain players are getting valuable experience ( ie PK) and lets hope that the Habs get this deep again at some point during his career.

  128. habz says:

    JM,,FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE MAB OUT OF THE LINE UP! he Sucks Big time! i know “you think” u need him to replace Markovs shot, but he’s not even doing that!! Geez, MAB out, O’Byrne In.

  129. Kooch7800 says:

    We need to come at them hard next game!!!! Use the speed and get in front of the net! For next year i hope we do add some form of a power forward that can stand in front of the net. I really liked Pouliot when he first came but now he is just a floater.  I would have preferred have Latts playing bad than the current Pouliot.  At least he was physical!

    We will never be able to compete physically with a team like Philly but we need to beat them with our skill and strong defense.  I still believe we can come back in this series.

    GO HABS GO!

  130. makka83 says:

    The only reason we are here is Halak… right?

    So the only one to blame for the losses is Halak as well.

  131. StevieRay says:

    How come we have more players with” shaved ” heads instead of “playoff” beards …… ??

  132. pmaraw says:

    thats some BS right there, i hope you were being sarcastic.

  133. nightmare_49 says:

        MORNING HEADLINES:
        STARS LOOK FOR WAY OUT OF 0-2 HOLE – Austin American-Statesman
    If the Texas Stars can’t make history starting tonight, they might just be history. When they take the ice tonight against Hamilton at the Cedar Park Center, they’ll be trying to become just the sixth AHL team in 73 years to come back from an 0-2 deficit in the conference finals. Rochester was the last to do it, rattling off four straight wins over Philadelphia for the 1999 Western crown.
    http://www.statesman.com/sports/pro/stars-look-for-way-out-of-0-2-696099.html

        DOWN IN TEXAS, PACIORETTY HAS A SPRING IN HIS STEP – Hamilton Spectator
    Max Pacioretty and Eric Neilson had a little extra jump in their step yesterday at practice. It was just enough to tell an interested observer that maybe, just maybe, the two injured Hamilton Bulldogs forwards could be back in the lineup, possibly as early as tonight in Game 3 of the AHL Western Conference Finals.
    http://www.thespec.com/Sports/article/771610

  134. pmaraw says:

    did sk do enough to get another game???

  135. KenD29 says:

    And get Gomez to focus on playing hockey instead of taking dumb/stupid penalties!! Otherwise nail his rear to the bench. For $8 mil a year, he is not eing paid to be in the box!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  136. Kalcon says:

    I could come on here and crap all over Gomez, Bergeron and company but that won’t diminish the frustration level brought on by watching those last two games. I remember everybody saying before Game 7 of the Pens series that no matter what the result was, we should be happy with the unexpected thrills the Habs provided us in this year’s playoffs. Although I’m disappointed and the outlook is bleak, I still feel that the thrills are far from over. I’d sooner be tied 2-2 after winning games 3 and 4 than tied 2-2 after winning games 1 and 2. Make sense? Momentum is a funny thing. Just ask the Bruins, Pens and Caps. Anyway, I offer the following to those of you who think the glass is half empty…

    If you think you are beaten, you are;

    If you think you dare not, you don’t;

    If you’d like to win but you think you can’t,

    You can almost be certain you won’t.

    If you think that you’ll lose, you are lost,

    For out in the world you will find

    Success begins with a person’s will;

    It’s all in the state of the mind.

    If you think you’re outclassed you are;

    You’ve got to think high to rise.

    You’ve just got to be sure of yourself

    Before you can win the prize.

    Life’s battles don’t always go

    To a stronger or faster man;

    But sooner or later the person who wins

    Is the person that THINKS they can.

     

     

  137. Bob Barker says:

    This series was over in 1998 when we drafted Eric Chouinard instead of Simon Gagne. 

    It’s pretty easy to pick players in hindsight. I’m sure Philly wishes they picked Subban instead of Kevin Marshall (whoever that is). 

  138. Say Ash says:

    man, did anybody?

    pleks talking last night about how they need to get their noses dirty and go to the net – then friggin’ DO IT!

  139. Caballero says:

    I agree, but you can’t tell a player to do that kind of thing. Either they do or they don’t. It should come naturally to players when it is part of their repertoire. Against a team like this with Pronger and all…you have to have that instinct and besides someone like Moen I don’t think anyone has it (maybe Gionta?) but definitely not Pleks, Cammy and Andre K. If we don’t score a goal in the first period, I think Martin should completely change his lines and have one gritty big player per line. Oh I forget we don’t have any players like that.

  140. mike g says:

    I’m sure SK will be 1st in line to “get his nose dirty”.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  141. savethepuck says:

    What is the latest on Markov.  I keep hearing he practiced well today( yesterday) or he tweaked his knee today ( before game 1). Is the front office just playing head games about his possible return or is there any positive news.  Him back and most MAB bashers will get there wish.

  142. HNS says:

    AGREED!!! That’s the spirit dude. HABS IN 7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  143. WindsorHab-10 says:

    THIS SERIES WILL BE TIED BY SATURDAY.

  144. j2w4habs25 says:

    I hope so

  145. Storm Man says:

    I would be very happy if that does happen, But the fat lady is singing.

  146. AZ_Hab_Fan says:

    hell ya!

  147. habbytown says:

    it will be over by late Sat afternoon. I guarantee it!

  148. Off-side says:

    Nightmare on Broad Street.

  149. Psycho29 says:

    I doubt if its happened since, but I think the last time the Habs were shut out in the first 2 games of a series was in 1983. Buffalo beat us twice at the Forum 1-0 and 3-0, and went on to win the best of 5 in the next game at home.

    The priority tomorrow is to score the first goal…early…SOMEHOW!!!!

  150. SeriousFan09 says:

    Canadiens will get it back on track at the Bell Centre, this isn’t the team that won 3 straight to boot out the Capitals nor picking up a pair of big wins against the Pens to send them off to the golf course. We know the Canadiens are better than this, they will be better.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  151. jimmy shaker says:

    MEMO to team:  Don’t shoot the puck until Philly has at least 10 shots on net!  And then go at about a  2:1 ratio (philly shots vs habs shots) thereafter for the rest of the game!

    When we outshoot the other team, we LOSE! And when we get outshot, we WIN! 

    It’s that simple!

    And we need to win the next 4 in a row, or I think anything less will hurt our chances of moving on!

    Shaker

  152. Malreg says:

    I think Philly is puposely trying to keep their shots to a minimum.  They know that the more shots Halak faces, the better he gets, so they are rarely taking any low-percentage chances.  They either dump the puck into the corner and grind it out until some one gets in a good scoring position, or they pull up at our blue line and try to find the trailer.

    Washington and Pitts strategy was to just bombard Halak and hope for the best.

  153. Habs4ever Fan says:

    He has not been a distraction since Gainey resigned

    I hope it remains like that until he matures or is traded.

  154. Off-side says:

    We need to play like underdogs.  That got us where we are.  Think “underdog”.  Think “underdog”.  Think “you have nothing to lose”.

  155. Off-side says:

    You’re right.  What’s different is this energy that Philly has.  Energy takes you places.  BUT, they have a six game winning streak now, right?  Surely they’re going down next game.

  156. EricInStL says:

    We need to play smarter than the Flyers, they play disciplined hockey and methodical hockey. So in theory it should be easier to counter.

    In theory.

    Once we score a goal the floodgates should open, then doubt will install itself in Leighton.

    My concern is the fact that everyone talks about getting the first goal. The focus is only on the first goal. You cannot think like that.

    Oh well……

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  157. habs001 says:

    there were three reasons habs beat wash and pitts

    1) unbelievable goaltending by halak

    2) camm and gion being scoring machines

    3) pitt and wash goaltenders gave up bad goals to our non
    scorers

    pitt and wash had no strategy vs the habs as they did not respect them and figured their talent was too much for the habs

    if only one the three reasons above dont happen habs lose most series to the majority of playoff teams…if you are an oppostion team coach your eyes light up facing the habs knowing that if you stop 2 forwards the odds of winning the series are tremendous as the habs will score about a goal a game

  158. AndyF says:

    I suggest you watch the game again.      Or go back to rooting for the Flyers in peace, if you think they actually earned the win.

    ;-) 

     

    AndyF

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  159. TripleX says:

    Earn the win?  What does that mean?  I have never had a coach tell me that we did or did not “earn a win”.  WTF?

    Teams win and teams lose dude….earning has nothing to do with it.

    I don’t have to watch the game again, I know I saw a scared Habs team the last two games.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  160. AndyF says:

    Winning is a process that starts with outplaying your opposition.  Otherwise, trying to know what to do *next* would be a game of whack-a-mole.  The Habs did the right thing in the last game.   If they do that again, they will likely win.

     

    AndyF

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  161. HardHabits says:

    I disagree. That’s what killed the Pens and the Caps. They kept on saying they were doing the right things. Well. It didn’t work. The Habs need to try other things. One thing I would suggest for the Habs to do is to score the 1st goal. Not just the 1st goal of the game, but their 1st goal of the series.

    It’s like during the regular season where the Habs had better records or played better games against the finesse or speedy teams but had a harder time with the more robust and physical teams.

    There’s still at least two games left.

  162. Fargo Habs Fan says:

    I’m not ready to give up, and I don’t believe our Habs are either.

    GO HABS

    -Dustin-

    “The good thing about drinking during games is if they lose, you’re too drunk to care during and too hungover to care after.” – J.T.

  163. PeterStone says:

    If newark is the armpit of america, philly is strategically placed to be the butthole.

  164. coachdoug says:

    I see a lot of comments about the Flyers not being a good team etc…

    While I cannot stand the Flyers and hate their fans worse they are currently outplaying us…they are tearing us up on the board battles and no one is willing or able to get a net presence…I saw Pronger make several of our forwards part of the advertising last night…

    If this team does not push back and win some puck battles we are in a lot of trouble…Habs are not even competing so far…Leighton is riding Halak’s confidence wave…If we lose we lose…but not competing is embarassing to the fans and should be for the team…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  165. SeriousFan09 says:

    Okay, probably going to get knocked for this but I don’t care. With the stock of Kirill Kabanov having freefallen to the 31st with Central Scouting, the 6’3″ LW who was originally favoured in the top 5 until his wrist injury and the Under-18 Team and Moncton Wildcats drama. I know, he’s Russian and there’s some issues there but looking at the mock draft of the 2010 entry draft on NHL.com, there isn’t much in the last 5 picks of the draft so why not take a shot at Kabanov? Highly talented scoring winger when we’re likely to see the Kostitsyns off this summer, might as well spend a pick on a guy who might give us a scoring bump.

    Just a thought but remember, no one’s expecting a 2003 draft this year and the last 5 looks pretty average to me.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  166. emann_222 says:

    I can’t believe my eyes! Habs fans talking about how great this season WAS and Thanking the boys for a great post-season. Are you kidding me …. ???

    I have news for you … we’re not done yet. Where is the faith that you all displayed over the first 14 games of the post season? What happened to “Philly’s gonna be a cakewalk”???

    I’ve said from day one of the third round that this was going to be a team to reckon with, but I never doubted that we could do it. And I still don’t doubt it. Faith, Belief. That’s what the fans have given this team through 2 gruelling rounds …. and that’s what we owe them now.

    So put away your Kleenex. Stop lamenting about what a great season they GAVE us. Quit going on about how small they are.

    Start showing the faith that we’ve shown for a month for this post season. Tell Halak how great he is. Remind Cammy that he still leads the playoffs in goals and that we know #13 is happening in Game 3 … followed by many more. Let Lappy know that we love his grit and determination. Hey Hal – you’re a MONSTER – keep doing what you do. 2 Rings in 2 years is a great accomplishment … and within reach. Thanks Gorges for hammering at it over these playoffs … your name will go on the Cup baby! Gomes – Gionta … thanks for the depth and leadership. Carey – thanks for being unselfish in doing your part! Thank You Canadiens for taking us deeper and deeper and giving us hope so that we can believe.

    And to all you naysayers that are jumping off this winning train … Shame on you. The fat lady hasn’t struck a chord. If anyone should be pulling out their golf clubs right now – it should be you.

    I Believe ….

    GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!

  167. makka83 says:

    Blaming Halak is obviously wrong but using the same logic that some of you used on Price during the year, we end up with:

    Excuse #1: Halak had no chance on most of the goals

    Price-bashers from earlier this year: Good goalies make the key stops

    Excuse # 2: Halak cannot win if the team does not score goals

    Price-bashers from earlier this year: The goalie let in an early goal that let the team down and that set the tone. They played more nervous and had a direct concequence on the loss.

    Excuse # 3: Halak is the one that got us here, without him we would be golfing.

    Price-bashers from earlier this year: Wins are the only stat that matters. Nothing else matters except wins.

    People blaming Price earlier this year said this also:

    1- Price gives up on plays when the team is down: is that the same as goal #3 in the last game for Halak?

    2- Price does not make the key saves: out of 14 shots, we have 4 goals against in game #1, where are the key saves?

    Now before you bash me (and please feel free to do so) hear me out:

    - I love Halak and I think Price should not get another game this year. It’s Halak’s team.

    - I am not blaming Halak for the loses. He is the LEAST of our problems. I am just trying to show the Price-bashers that their logic was, is and always will be FLAWED.

    - If we cannot score then we will not win!

    The only negative thing about Halak that can be said is that he does not seem to be the same when facing a small amount of shots. He will improve, he is still 25 years old. He is just entering his prime and will be a great goalie for years to come if this year is any measuring stick!

  168. yathehabsrule says:

    Something on the last time the Habs were blanked back-to-back during the playoffs.

    ___________________________________________

    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  169. jw20 says:

    ok boys! I will admit if the Bruins cant get there I want the Habs in!

    What they need to do get the video of Game 7 B’s vs the Flyers and Watch the First 15 minutes of Peroid one Attck the puck get to the Front of the net pressure their D — Watch the Video not Prefect but they will get the idea

    Go Habs go!!

  170. Mark C says:

    Before you get bashed for this, if Kabanov is still on the board when the Habs pick (27-30). Then, yes they should draft him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It is a soild idea to go for high upside, free fallers at the end of the 1st round.

  171. TripleX says:

    Anyone who says the Flyers are not a good team have much to learn about the game of hockey.  The only thing surprising about the Flyers is how they managed to implode during the regular season.  Make no mistake the Flyers are loaded with top grade talent, and their only weakness was goal tending up to now.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  172. joeybarrie says:

    Our fans. FUNNY FUNNY PEOPLE.

    A few things I noticed. 

    -Halak is the ONLY reason the Habs are in the Conf Finals.

           -By that logic, the reason we are losing 2-0 is also ALL Halak.

    -If we put in OB we have a chance at winning…

           -OB is the least producing player on our roster. Don’t get me wrong, I like him, but he offers us NOTHING   offensively. If we can’t score a single goal, how is having him on D for 10 minutes a game going to HELP?

    -There is no System, It’s a hoax…

           -Yet everyone seems to think the Canadiens are good at eliminating the neutral zone, pressure forechecking, quick fast counter attacks and relying on special teams when they ar effective. I don’t know kinda sounds like a system to me.

    -MAB is the worlds worst defender and the reason we aren’t winning…

          -However, he was on the ice for 1 of 9 goals in these past 2 games…

    -JM is an idiot for not playing SK.

          – How did that work last night, he did nothing. If fact Darche has less ice time and he at least has a point..

    Could we have less faith in our own team??? In the end there are ONLY 2 teams that will have played more hockey this year, and only 2 teams that were more successful than we were this season.

  173. Bob Barker says:

    I heard he’s got a pretty bad attitude but a ton of talent. I say draft and play him on a line with Avstin.

  174. joeybarrie says:

    In this city there are two types of players. GREAT players who are currently doing well, and AWFUL WASTEFUL PATHETIC STUPID and USELESS players who are not doing very well. They change around alot… First example. LATENDRESSE…

    This is a good post.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  175. Habs_Fan_1 says:

    Great post!

  176. SLONCOLD says:

    amount of shots and scoring chances are different. Philly is getting shots from some prime areas. If you personally thing halak gave up on the thrid goal you’re way off… I think he just blew it on the play, plain and simple.

    i hear you on the other points but try not to worry about some of the other fan boys

  177. makka83 says:

    To me Halak looked kind of shakey on that goal. Don’t get me wrong I think the shot was pretty accurate, it just that it seems he could have tried harder on that.

    I agree, it’s just fun to show them up every once in a while… i guess i’m a tool! :D

  178. makka83 says:

    Thanks. Yeah. I mean we should support our team no matter what. I will defend Halak if someone unfairly bashes him…

  179. pic1983 says:

    He didnt “give up” on the play, but he was out to lunch and out of position.

  180. makka83 says:

    Great post. Having faith in our team is what makes a great fan.

    I believe Halak will rebound at home. I know that Cammy will start scoring again at home. I know our supporters will tear the Phillyers appart with they loud cheers..

    I BVELIEVE!

  181. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ryan O’Byrne has nothing to do with points production anymore than Gorges or Gill do. He is a large, physical defencemen who can engage the body, handle the right-side D more easily with his RH shot and present a physical barrier to a Flyers squad that is running into our own end too easly. If we’re going to have a forward skate 4 minutes a night, it makes more sense to dress OB and use MAB on PP situations and limit his ES time because it’s scary to watfch. OB is there to prevent goals from happening against us.

    I believe in this team as well but I also believe against the most physical team we’ve faced thus far, it helps to bring along all your bruisers and OB is one of them.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  182. pic1983 says:

    exactly.  I love how kopitar only went 11th because he is from Slovenia, and not a more prominent hockey nation.  Talent is talent my friends. 

    Plus this kid kabanov seems to have no interest to play in russia and is motivated to play in the NHL. 

    However, based on our history with developing talent, I dont think a player known to have a bad attitude is the best thing for this organization.

  183. W35T5ID3 says:

    Leighton = Hall of Famer? NO! Placed on waivers 4 times in the past 4 years!Why is it that the Habs,giant killers, have trouble putting a puck by Michael Leighton?Michael Leighton?I’ll say it again…Michael Leighton?Cmon guys!!Wake up and bury this philly team!This is unnaceptable …the lack of scoring.WAKE UP!

  184. pic1983 says:

    Agree.

    No matter which way you look at it, Briere-Richards-Gagne-Hartnell-Giroux-Van Riemsdyk is a filthy top 6. Once they get back Jeff Carter, they actually have, on paper, one of the deepest forward cores in the national hockey league.

    Pronger-Timmonen-Carle-Coburn isnt too shabby a defensive corp either. 

  185. Mark C says:

    I tend to believe that the attitude issues are overblown, there clearly are some, but none that are deal breakers, IMO.  The kid has super skill and great size 6’3″ and wants to play in the NHL. Another plus in his favor, he is or is near NHL-ready, not many NHL-ready players at the end of the 1st round. 

    Good article from the Globle and Post on him: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kabanov-trying-to-put-career-back-on-track/article1572354/

  186. TripleX says:

    Flawed logic on Halak.  Even if Halak was PERFECT we would not WIN but be in OT of game one at 0-0.  A team has to a least score ONE GOAL to win, dumb I know but that is how hockey works.

    Putting O’Byrne in who can use his size to neutralize the Flyers low down cycle game MIGHT prevent some of those goals.  Guess what if you prevent goals you don’t have to score as many to win, for a team that is offensively challenged that makes sense. No?  Also any move the limits MAB is good.  If you can tell me how you justify MAB playing 18 minutes in both games please enlighten me?

    A defense man has the primary job of defending not scoring.  Duh?  How is Gill and Georges filling the nets?  Duh?

    MAB was on the ice for one of nine goals.  What?  Halak was on for ALL NINE! 

    That is a dead issue a month ago dude.  So JM the dumbass puts in a player that is effectively banished from the team and has not played in over a month on the fourth line.  So with 4 minutes of ice time SK did nothing.  Guess what?  SK is not a defensive forward as his skill set is vision of the ice and passing.  Not exactly useful on the fourth line…..ask Pouliot.  If JM wanted to use SK properly use him on the point on the PP where SK played in Junior and at the Olympics.  So JM once again puts a player in a position he is destined to fail in and it is the players fault.

    The “system” is a hoax.  All five players collapse on Halak and try to block shots and hope any that get in Halak stops.  Some “system”.  Playing the left wing trap is not really a system in that many teams use it.  Heck the Flyers are using it dude and doing it better. If there is a “system” where is the adjustments to it.  Why is the PP the same even though it has proved ineffective for some time now?  How about icing a roster that has a potential to win?

    Pouliot has to be reunited with Gomez, Pyatt who has ONE GOAL is not a top six forward.  Why doesn’t JM put PK Suban with either the Pleks or Gomez line?  Is Moore really going to do anything with his breakout passes or convert on his rushes?  Why? Why? Why?

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  187. HardHabits says:

    It’s because the Habs are looking over their shoulders too much once they get into the offensive zone. Something tells me that MAB just doesn’t generate the same type of fear that Pronger does.

  188. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    Ok – I’ll bit on the bashing. :-)

    drafting Kabanov is no different than drafting the K brothers – its stupid drafting.

    the LAST thing I want to draft are talented guys with attitude – even if they make the pros they turn oyt to be terrible team players.

    I would NEVER build my team around selfish pricks like this guy.

    Haven’t you learned your lesson from Sergei and Andrei?

    Even Kovalev – who has great talent obviously??

    Its not the “Russian” aspect, its the attitude – the “me” player.

    terrible idea!!

    you end up pushing the kid to the Habs and then watching him unravel and take the whole team down with him.

    Let the Rangers take a kid like this – they are professional losers.

  189. boris420 says:

    Good way to contradict yourself with the OB topic and then MAB. MAB has had the worst +/- in the entire NHL since the start of the playoffs (I havent checked after these past 2 games) and OB would bring what MAb couldnt defensively. And no offense is better than no offense and defense so throw the big guy in and F the small guy!

  190. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ve heard of the attitude troubles but I think it’s a worthy drafting risk. Looking down the depth chart of potential scoring forwards, we have Leblanc and Kristo, who I both suspect will play another year of NCAA hockey and then both spend a year in the A, so they’re likely only going to show up on the Canadiens roster full-time for the 12-13 season. Gabriel Dumont had a wonderful season in the Q, but 51 goals in the Q is not 51 goals in the WHL or OHL by a longshot and he’s generously listed at 5’10”. Max Pacioretty’s shoulder problems have really disrupted a lot of prime playing time for him in the AHL this season so I suspect at the least, he’ll spend the 10-11 season in the AHL. That takes us to Alex Avtsin if he hops the pond, but he’ll need a year in the AHL anyway I imagine as he gets used to NA ice and game conditions. Lastly, we have Andreas Engqvist who may come over from Sweden for the 10-11 season and may be our Holmstrom, or not.

    Kostitsyns are out the door this year so that’s two spots gone and in trade likely only 1 player back on that deal, if that player back is even someone who can reliably work the Top 6. If Pouliot can’t resurrect himself for the 10-11 season, that’s more spots to be filled as well.

    Realistically, you can’t expect all of these guys working out so it would be best to do our best to stock the shelves a wee bit with scoring forwards, especially the bigger ones. Besides, all it takes is one freak accident for a promising young player to be thrown off entirely (Chipchura’s achilles tendon injury) from his projected development path.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  191. Mark C says:

    Good point about the Habs recent player development. However, considering the word that both Avtsin and Emelin may sign over the summer, now might be the right time to take a chance on a Russian with attitude issues. Not that any one wants to hear that around here.

  192. Bob Barker says:

    that is a good article. Hopefully he falls to the Habs. 

  193. SeriousFan09 says:

    We have no idea how bad these attitude issues are, I’m sure some scouts have conflicting reports on his willingess to play but again, risks are part of of the game in drafting. You take a big skater on hoping you can teach him better technique so he can move faster or you take on a guy who may have an unfair ‘me-first’ rep when he’s just had some conflicts with a coach at one point. I’m not suggesting build the team around Kabanov, but add him to the team as a scoring forward and get him some MENTORING. Have him stay with Andrei Markov when he does make the team, so many good NHL franchises have the young stars live with veteran players when they come to town or even FO people to make sure the kids are looked after, this tendency to give these kids a contract that adds up to a couple million bucks over 3 years before bonuses or anything else kicks in and turning them loose in Montreal has royally blown up in the team’s face over the last few years.

    I won’t paint all players with the same brush when I hear ‘attitude problem’ Andrei and Sergei have trouble in Montreal for entirely different reasons and Kovalev was a well-known enigma before, but he did generally produce for us in the  playoffs at the very least. You pay your money, you spend your picks and you take your chances, with so few Canadian prospects looking to turn pro and be legitimate scoring threats before say, the 11-12, 12-13 seasons (Kristo, Leblanc, Pacioretty, Avtsin, Dumont) and likely only Engqvist capable of joining the team full-time next season it wouldn’t hurt to spend a pick in the late part of the 1st round to possibly draft an elite scoring winger.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  194. Tis Himself says:

    He scares me a hell of a lot more than Pronger!!!

  195. Grallis says:

    And on the 8th day the Lord said…..let there be the Canadiens

    I have to agree 100% on that one. put MAB as a 4th line role player with PP time, and get the big guy in there. After last night’s game it’s pretty obvious we need a physical presence.

    PS. What about Gill out front for a PP? Right now worth a try….thoughts.

    Go HABS Go!

  196. TripleX says:

    HAHAHA..Pierre Maguire was asked about MAB.  He said “look not every team in the league is stupid…..there is a reason he did not have a job in the NHL….he is a one dimensional player who can’t play defense and every other team realizes that”.  LMAO

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  197. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    Here’s what i know – on my team, I NEVER draft anyone who even smells of bad attitude.

    There are so many excellent players out there – no need to take the risk.

    Look at Louis Leblanc; that should be the model.- build your team around character players – teach quality

    kids to play as a unit.

    Since the draft is such a crap shoot when it comes to talent, why don’t we decide that at least we will draft

    good, hard working team players, in ALL OF THE ROUNDS, and EVERY YEAR.??

    If I was GM – that would be my first priority.

    I want TEAM FIRST PLAYERS.

     

     

  198. K-hab25 says:

    Nice!! Classic Yeats

  199. SeriousFan09 says:

    There very few people who can be drafted and score 30, 40, the rare 50-goal and the first-time in over a decade 60+ by Ovechkin a couple years ago. The scoring touch is something you can’t teach kids,  ask Mario Lemieux how he did what he did against a goalie and he’ll never be able to really explain it, for him it was as natural as breathing. Leblanc seems to be a quality prospect of course, but it’s a little early to say he’s the model of who you want to draft. Some of these kids seem like the perfect player (Price was a man of destiny in 06-07 to just about January of 08-09!) and then they start having problems.

    I would say a careful examination of Kabanov is required of course, but you can’t just take 2nd or 3rd-hand information for the absolute truth. I would want to examine just what is behind these ‘bad attitude’ talks, does he conflict with his coach, or with teammates, was this all a response to limited ice time or something else? Research is vital, interviews are important but calling an 18-year old a hopeless ego case who can’t change is a little extreme for me. I am not nearly who I was when I was when I was 18 I can tell you that.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  200. Gr8stFranchizEvr says:

    Well, friends, it was a rollercoaster season and a great playoff run.  After going 2 games without scoring a goal on Michael “I’ve got it easy vs. the tiny Habs” Leighton, our post-season fairytale is all but done.  Philly will sweep this one in 4.  I thoroughly enjoyed this unexpected wave of winning — it made April and May pass quickly!

    The story early in the season has come back to haunt:  Habs are too small.  This is clearly evident vs. a big grinding team like Philly.  Sadly, it is our undoing.

    Way to go, Canadiens!  Thank you for a surprise finish!

     

  201. K-hab25 says:

    It is a flawed logic, but I think that’s his point. When we won game 6 against WAS 2-1, everybody posted, “Halak was the ONLY REASON we won that game”. They are basically ignoring the fact it would’ve been a 1-0 loss if it weren’t for the 2 goals. They also are basically saying he did it by himself, that his teammates didn’t have anything, at all, to do with the outcome. So if they don’t have anything to do with the outcome and Halak is the “ONLY REASON” for the wins, then Halak the “ONLY REASON” for the losses aswell. I don’t believe that and I don’t think joey does either, but if your only going to give him all the credit in the wins, logic says he’s to blame for the losses. I say you win as a team and you lose as a team, period. Wins and losses are a team stat.

  202. TripleX says:

    Again there is a critical flaw.  Halak won 2-1 he did not lose 1-0, which if he had you could argue it was his fault.  You are dealing in hypothetical situations that did not occur.  It is FACT that in the last two games the Habs failed to score, so to blame Halak is a false premise.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  203. mbplekfan says:

    He shouldnt be in the NHL and wont be next year unless PG has a massive brain cramp.

    Yannick Webber has a huge shot and plays suspect D. At least his suspect D is better than MAB’s.

  204. joeybarrie says:

    Im sure the Habs are laughing too. 750k for a guy who has 39 points. You know that more points than a 4 million dollar Michael Ryder. One dimensional player??????  OK, what does that make Ryder??? Fine he is one dimensional. What else do we need him for if he is getting more points than most defenders in the league??? He is a replacement player. And in my opinion the biest replacement player I have EVER seen. He has more points this seaon than Andrei K. Same amount of games… In fact he has more points than F. Beauchemin and has a better plus minus……….

    SAME PIERRE MCGUIRE who was saying Gainey made a great move for MAB for only 750k in the middle of the season by the way. In fact I believe he said one of the biggest reasons why the Canadiens are doing so well right now if replacing their injured Markov with MAB who is a looking like a genius right now as he is one of the higest scoring defenders in the league, and the Habs PP is #2 without MARKOV…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  205. K-hab25 says:

    This post sums up the frustration alot of us have felt regarding the goalie situation for the last year and half. The hypocrisy and two faced ways used to judge each of them has been disgusting. They’re are both good young goalies that we all should appreciate having alot more than we do. I really hope we keep them both. I don’t care if it pisses of the haters, because there competition is whats best for them and the team. IMO

  206. Fansincebirth says:

    Put Pouliot on the third or fourth line and tell him that when we have the puck in the Flyer end, plant your ass in front of the net and wait for a nice juicy rebounds and hit people for Gawd’s sake!

    SK….tell him he has one game to prove he’s worth the investment otherwise he’s trade bait in the summer

    Put MAB up on the fourth line and on the PP and tell him he has ONE game to prove he’s worth keeping for at least his point shot

    Put O’B in on D for his size, hitting power and for clearing out dead Flyers in front of the net.

    Sorry but we have to ride Halak to the end of this story…..

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  207. K-hab25 says:

    You do realise we agree on not blaming him solely for losses, don’t you? I think where we disagree is you think it’s not flawed to say he’s the “ONLY REASON” for the wins. He cannot win without his teammates scoring goals, that’s a “fact”. Thus he can’t be the “ONLY REASON” for wins, it just isn’t possible. So for those that use flawed logic and say he is the “ONLY REASON” we win, must also be willing use that same flawed logic and say he’s the “ONLY REASON” we lose.

  208. makka83 says:

    If we had lost 3-2 I wouldn’t blame Halak for the loss either. Even after his questionable 3rd goal, he played okay for the large part and his team failed him on many occasions.

  209. Bill says:

    The Wildcats were going into the playoffs and essentially asked Kabanov to please go play somewhere else. And no one here in Moncton complained. Forget the comparisons to the Kostitsyns, this guy is less popular than Alexei Yashin.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  210. Dennis says:

    For a change of pace, have you seen Sharks GM Doug Wilson’s daughter? http://dennis-kane.com/meet-doug-wilsons-daughter/

  211. Exit716 says:

    Oh. I see. Didn’t McGuire say earlier this season that MAB was a good pick up after Markov went down?

    McGuire flip flops all the time. It’s hilarious. He basically said Hal Gill was nothing without Scuderi, and then when Gill shut down Ovie and Crosby, McGuire was all over Gill about how great he is.

    At least be consistent like Cherry is.

    If you aren’t one of Pierre’s one million insider buddies then you’re dog crap.

    I hope Molson makes him pay to go to the games on the weekend.

     

  212. PeterStone says:

    he also said that with MAB you know what you get .. he’s a 1 dimensional player who should be used as a PP specialist … hes pretty accurate on that wouldnt you agree ?

  213. MontrealAtheist says:

    Amen to that, bro’ … Our smurfs did kick some $#! though this playoff season, eh? It was fun while it lasted, here’s hoping that we can advance even further next year.

  214. MontrealAtheist says:

    Halak was not in for all 9 goals, Price was in for 2 of these 9.

    Besides, nobody denies that we are where we are because of Halak. However, that does not mean that bad performances by Halak can contribute to our losses as well.

    It’s hard to blame a single person for the results in Philly, but Halak certainly did not look very good on his part.

  215. adam76 says:

    So right – why even play game three and four?

  216. AndyF says:

    Adam,

     

    That’s the frickin’ spirit.   The rest of you — are you for real?!!!   This teams outplayed the Flyers in the last game.  If you don’t know enough hockey to see that, I can’t help you.  

     

    One of the things that makes hockey so tough is that sometimes you don’t win games that you should.   That was the case in Game 2.   So everybody have another look at the game on your PVR and ask yourselves how scared the Flyers looked on that bench during the game.    

     

    And go out there and make your team know you believe in them!

     

    Go, Habs, Go!!!!

     

    AndyF

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  217. mrhabby says:

    she is very hot.

  218. TripleX says:

    I remember someone on Team990 saying that they stayed after a practice and was watching Pouliot just fooling around deflecting pucks in front of the net.  He was stunned at his eye hand coordination and how easily he deflected pucks into the top corners of the net.  He thought why wouldn’t he do that in a game?

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  219. HardHabits says:

    The operative phrase being “same type of fear.” He scares the crap outta me too!!!

  220. HardHabits says:

    The Caps and Pens also outplayed the Habs.

    Bottom line:

    Flyers >> 2 wins – 9 goals

    Habs >> 0 wins – 0 goals

    I don’t care about outplaying my opponents. I care about beating them.

  221. TripleX says:

    I have been playing competitive hockey from the age of 10.  The only scared players I saw last night were in the tricolors dude.  Except for a couple of flurries in the first period the Flyers were in complete and utter control.  I saw so many Habs players ducking checks and avoiding contact it was sickening.  If the Habs expect to win or be competitive they have to look in the mirror.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  222. TripleX says:

     

    Ummmmm…is that how he is being used?  What is your point?

    JM played him for 18 minutes in both games.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  223. habsguy says:

    I guess people like you are loving this!!!!!….LOL

  224. MontrealAtheist says:

    So Timo, how did you like MAB’s performance in game #2?

  225. Malreg says:

    What do you expect them to say?

  226. homerbowen says:

    The analysts in the first two rounds all said Halak is stopping everything down low so why aren’t they going high??? I guess Philly was listening because 7 of the 9 were high shots. Halak better adjust quickly because there is no room left for error unless you’re a dreamer.

    MAB out and O’Byrne in please.

    Let’s try SK, AK, Gomez and a goalie for a starter and a first round pick ehhh Edmonton!!! If necessary we can throw in Hammer.

  227. RudeMood19 says:

    This is what the people on here get for believing we had made the Stanley CUp FInals after beating Pittsburgh. I had a bad feeling this would happen. You can’t overlook teams in the playoffs and I think even some on the team are guilty of this.

    I’ve said this before, I HOPE this team isn’t more like the ’93 ISlanders than the ’93 Canadiens. That Isles team was excited to make the conference finals after beating Pittsburgh and was not ready to fight. This Habs team hasn’t even scored a damn goal yet.

    I’m not giving up on the team, we’ve come too far. I’m only 20, so this is the farthest I actually remember the team coming. WHile this playoff run is a pleasant surprise, I would have to think it’d be disappointing to bow out with a whimper the way the team is currently playing.

    Game 3 at the Bell Centre better be loud and try to get to Leighton. We need all the help we can get. We’re making him look BETTER than Biron in 2008, if you can believe that.

    GO HABS GO!

    I believe.

  228. j2w4habs25 says:

    I couldnt have said it any better – I totally agree wit your post

  229. TripleX says:

    Kate Smith??

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  230. namgel says:

    That sure is one Handsome Woman huh ??

     

    Coach Martin say’s one…..one little forward…two….two lit..

  231. RudeMood19 says:

    Kate Smith doesn’t count. She’s been gone from this earth for 24 years. A recording on a jumbotron does not and should not count! And as a side note, in 1976, we beat them 5-3 in game to win the Cup IN Philly when Smith sang the anthem.

    It doesn’t guarantee victory.

    The fat lady hasn’t sung yet.

  232. Kooch7800 says:

    Rita Mcneil

  233. TripleX says:

    Ewwwwwww…tough choice dude.  I know one of them is dead, but still a tough choice.  Ewwwwwwww!

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  234. StevieRay says:

    Sure is … ugly enough with them glassess on  to scare a hungary bulldog off the back of a meat truck !!

  235. habz says:

    We’re so close, so close, all we need is 4 games to get to the cup finals, but base from the last 2 games, i’m not sure anymore  *sigh*

  236. jimmy shaker says:

    Exactly, and it’s working beautifully for the flyers. Let’s do the same thing to Leighton. I don’t care if the shots are 8-6. The bottom line is that if the flyers have the edge in shots, we will win! And we must capitalize on the PP on Thursday. Play to win, don’t play not to lose!

    Shaker

  237. Tis Himself says:

    I still can’t figure out for the life of me what JM was trying to accomplish by dressing SK last night. For whatever reason, he is done as a Montreal Canadien and having him suit up was just an insult to a guy like Ryan O’byrne who might actually have a future with this team.

  238. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    Simply unbelievable the behaviour from these so called flyer fans.

    Hopefully we can get back into this series starting tomorrow night.

     

     

    ___________ Never date a Flyers fan even if she shaves her moustache!

  239. j2w4habs25 says:

    and if this happend in Montreal, it would probably turn out to be national news hahaha…But atleast no one was hurt. I cant wait to knock em Flyers out!

  240. namgel says:

    Ahh that fatty singing at the beginning of the Flyers Game reminds me of an old couch we had in 1973.  Same size too.

     

    Philly women are ugly….Montreal women are Hot..

     

    Nuff Said…go suck some more Iron Ore Dust you pylons.

     

     

  241. ab-hab-nut says:

    Anybody else hear about the new coach from China who PG has been in contact with?

    His name is win-one-soon

    He has a very good record..

  242. Mr.Hazard says:

    Cox sums it up perfectly:

    “… suddenly Cammalleri can’t score, Jaroslav Halak can’t make enough stops and P.K. Subban is looking like a rookie.”

    “We didn’t give up and we are not giving up.” – Jaroslav Halak

  243. habbytown says:

    must be some good dope you’re smoking

  244. habbytown says:

    really?   so I guess it’s a miracle that fglyers are scoring.

    obviously you didn’t watch Halak in game #2, 3, 4 vs Wash. he was horrible in those games.

    it really would be nice if hab fans wrren’t so full 0f themselves and delusional.

    why do they constantly dream in technicolor?

    habs are average, as in mediocre. they played way way way way above their norm.

    look at their record during the regular season and the # of points(88) they amassed. then look at how they squeeeeeeeezed into 8th place by backing in. sound like a good team to you?

    didn’t think so. you don’t go from being average to a great team overnight. just ask Chicago!

  245. 100HABS says:

    When Halak was hot, he was standing for the shots. Standing, he could have stopped Brière. The second gaol was fumbled. If he doesn’t give a rebound, no goal. The third was just awful.

    I don’t know that I would come back with Price, but definitely Halak was not 100% in the last 2 games.

  246. pic1983 says:

    Seriously…Other than Goaltending (which currently is debateable), they have more talent, more size, and more physicality throughout their roster by far!

    The Flyers are a team that most pundits predicted to finish atop the east before the season.

  247. davecessna says:

    Come on Martin, panic and put Carey in for game 3 so my “four and out” prediction cashes in.

  248. punkster says:

    From what the Habs have shown us throughout most of this season I suspect they will rebound in Montreal. This bunch doesn’t quit. They had a zero game Sunday but last night they were in the thick of it. Is it a hot Flyer goaltender or is it a frustrating Flyer defensive system? Whatever. The Habs will come out strong and they won’t give up.

    Like many here I’m questioning the inclusion of SK last night. No impact and his brother was nowhere to be seen as well. But at this point I don’t think JM has many other options besides bringing Pouliot back in the hope that his head has been removed from his nether regions. I also now question why he continues to play MAB in place of OB. Not for the size difference so much but for the fact that OB is simply a better defenceman. MAB has had no value on the PP recently so what’s the point?

    We’re not done yet. Win tomorrow and the whole physch game shifts.

    FEEL THE PRIDE!

  249. pic1983 says:

    Well said.  This stubborness with bergeron is killing me!  We need obyrne out there to clear out the crease, and we certainly dont need bergerons minus-11.  He hasnt been doing anything on the powerplay either.

  250. davecessna says:

    As I mentioned below, I have a hilarious feeling that Carey will start game 3. Essentially means Martin will continue to be (one of?) the most experienced active coach in the NHL without a Stanley Cup.

     

    On another note, you could tell that the Habs got smoked last night, the roadrage is rampant in Montreal today. Sometimes, especially on days like today, I can’t wait to punch my ticket out of this city. No small wonder that everyone is running for the burbs. But that is another story.

  251. Instant Karma says:

    SK was invisible, but he was also playing with pluggers. He should be playing with someone who can put the puck on his stick and also receive his passes.

  252. Habs4ever Fan says:

    We’re going back to Philly all tied up at 2-2

    True beleivers keep on believing.

    We will win in spite of JM, MAB, and bad reffing

  253. JD_ says:

    We’ve outshot those clowns two games running.

    Leighton is solvable.

    There’s no road rage on the West Island, Punkman. None. I know this because I spend the better part of my days cruising all the major boulevards identifying potential road ragists and aggressively forcing them into the ditch.

  254. pic1983 says:

    The flyers are beating us at our own game, plain and simple.  They figured out what washington and pittsburgh couldnt: Dont take a lot of shots at halak.  They frustrate us with stifling defense, and then make us pay on the counterattack.  Thats exactly how we beat pittsburgh and washington.

    I cant believe bob mckenzie is trying to make a goaltending controversy when we scored 0 goals in the last two games. 

     

     

  255. davecessna says:

    Because the Molsons are lobbying TSN/RDS to slander Halak and boost Price so that the organization doesn’t lose a shitton of fans when they send Halak to Detroit for nothing.

  256. anotherhab says:

    Two of our top six are scoring. Gomez, AK, Pou-Pou have zero goals in the last month, Pleks has ONE. Our pp sucks and our PK is failing. Lord do we miss Markov, our D has 3 goals in the playoffs. MAB is not shooting or scoring! It’s time to sit him and put OB back in – can’t hurt having his big body – I thought he was playing well.

    On a positive note we haven’t been outplayed 5 on 5. Everything is going the Flyers way, the momentum will shift soon, we need a fluke goal, Leighton’s luck will run out soon — didn’t we pick this guy up a couple of years ago for a few games?

     

  257. BoomBoom says:

    It would be nice if MAB could keep the puck in the zone during a PP rather than having it hop over his stick. Also I have noticed, he’s no longer using his slapshot as often but a rather  using wrist shots. I understand he may want to get the shot on net but I say if a Flyer wants to stand in his shooting lane, rip a slapshot anyway..if the Flyer blocks it he’ll be feeling it for a while and he’ll think twice about standing there the next time. But it is time to remove him from D and let him play on the PP and occasionally on the 4th line. Put OB with Spacek (who’ll move to his more comfortable left).

    I think once we break the ice with Leighton, the goals will start coming, especially if it’s a softie.

    Everytime the Habs have been counted out and left for dead this season, they’ve come back. I would not be one bit surprised to see them beat the Flyers in 6!  This is the playoffs and it’s not over until it’s over.

  258. kempie says:

    Quick questions: How hard is it to win 7 in a row in the playoffs?

    Where’s Jack Todd this morning?

  259. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Todd is doing what he does best…………….sleeping in

  260. Habs4ever Fan says:

    JM

    We need Carey Price.

    We need Carey Price to move his stool from near the bench to closer to the locker room.

    Seriously, Ryan Obyrne gives us some additional size in front of our own net and stands a much better chance of clearing those pesky flyers from going after those odd rebounds.

    Bergeron is sucking up the ice. Everytime he has the puck, (like Bergeron does), I close my eyes and hope he doesnt cough up the puck. He is losing the puck at an alarming high pace.

    JM, just do what you do best…..you handle the press and let Kirk do the coaching. I think he inspires the team a whole bunch more than you do

    Habs will win this series. Leighton will not hold fort.

    The Habs have to play like they did in the first half of yesterdays game and get on the board and the whole dynamics of the game will change!

    Habs in 7

    MAB in Europe next year

    JM working for CBC TV next year

    Carey on Ritalin next year

  261. BoomBoom says:

    It would be nice if MAB could keep the puck in the zone during a PP rather than having it hop over his stick. Also I have noticed, he’s no longer using his slapshot as often but a rather  using wrist shots. I understand he may want to get the shot on net but I say if a Flyer wants to stand in his shooting lane, rip a slapshot anyway..if the Flyer blocks it he’ll be feeling it for a while and he’ll think twice about standing there the next time. But it is time to remove him from D and let him play on the PP and occasionally on the 4th line. Put OB with Spacek (who’ll move to his more comfortable left).

    I think once we break the ice with Leighton, the goals will start coming, especially if it’s a softie.

    Everytime the Habs have been counted out and left for dead this season, they’ve come back. I would not be one bit surprised to see them beat the Flyers in 6!  This is the playoffs and it’s not over until it’s over.

  262. Malreg says:

    I don’t get it? What does Price have to do with O’Byrne?  He’s been nothing but a great backup goalie, working hard in practice, going to every optional practice, staying late, and not causing any distractions.

  263. punkster says:

    I do’t believe JM will start Price. Last night had nothing to do with Halak and Sunday was simply a joke all around. Count on Halak to the end.

    To your other point I sold out in the WI and moved down town a year ago. I don’t regret it at all though I understand your roadrage statement. However I must warn you that roadrage is just as bad out there.

    FEEL THE PRIDE!

  264. Shublips says:

    The Habs have to understand that there is a difference between working harder and working smarter.

    Last night, they worked harder than they did in Game 1, but not smarter and it was the same result.  No one going to the net, no one getting to loose pucks or picking up rebounds, no on to screen the goalie or deflect a puck.

    Ugly, and if they don’t wake up this could all be over soon:
    http://www.habsaddict.com/2010/05/canadiens-flyers-leightons-second.html

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  265. avatar_58 says:

    I’m still quite angry with what I saw the last two games. I still hold hope they’ll pull their collective heads from their anuses, but I don’t know anymore. Everyone on the ice was making mistake after mistake, misplay after misplay. Once again Philly didn’t have to do much – hell they were allowed to skate and shoot at will. No pressure.

    The habs have given up and I don’t understand it. If the Bell Centre crowd can’t get them to push then nothing will. What a massive letdown given how they played in the other rounds. I’m not asking for a round 3 complete victory – I just want EFFORT. Don’t go down like this.

  266. punkster says:

    How about Detroit?

    FEEL THE PRIDE!

  267. Instant Karma says:

    He will be a top 6 on another team I’m sure, Detroit or elsewhere.

  268. punkster says:

    I have no problem with that, just as I had no problem with Lats being traded and doing well for a while.

  269. FSUPhi1584 says:

    All of our players have been really streaky even the “stars.” The
    only difference is that JM is patient with them and allows them to play
    on the top line until they get their scoring touch back. He is much less
    patient with the youngsters because their more prone to having lapses
    in their defensive game.

    I think JM needs to give pouliot another
    shot on the Gomez-Gionta line. He’s been the only player that has
    produced on that line. The “Moen or Pyatt on the top line” experiment
    has failed all year; it won’t suddenly start working in the playoffs.
    Pyatt’s shooting percentage is worse than TtB’s (less than 5%). The Habs
    need to play their game, and stop letting Philly dictate how they play.

  270. Drive_For_25 says:

    Anyone else feeling a wicked case of Deja Vu???

  271. CHsam says:

    Absolutely. Its kinda weird actually =)

  272. CHsam says:

    MAB is scared. I can smell it just watching him on tv.

  273. SLONCOLD says:

    my thoughts exactly:-) wanna block a 100mph slapshot? be my guest


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