Parros skates for first time since suffering concussion

Canadiens forward George Parros skated Friday for the first time since suffering a concussion during the Canadiens’ season opener on Oct. 1 against the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Parros and defencemen Douglas Murray and Alexei Emelin, who are also recovering from injuries, skated after the Canadiens’ practice at the Bell Centre, where the team photo was taken Friday morning.

“It’s going a lot better,” Coach Michel Therrien said of Parros.

“I can’t say exactly if he’s symptom-free…but he’s reached another step in his recovery,” Therrien said.

The Canadiens face off against the Nashville Predators Saturday at the Bell Centre. (7 p.m. CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690) riding a four-game winning streak. Carey Price will get the start in net.

The last time the Habs played the Predators was nearly two years ago in November 2011 because teams only played within their conference last season, which was shortened to 48 games following the lockout.

The Predators are a team that exploit their speed a lot, Therrien said.

The lines and defence pairings at practice looked like this:

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Bourque-Desharnais-Brière
Prust-Plekanec-Gionta
Moen-Bournival-White

Subban-Markov
Gorges-Diaz
Bouillon-Tinordi-Beaulieu

(Photo by Dave Sidaway/The Gazette)

236 Comments

  1. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning everyone. I see the talk features P.K again. So I will now push ahead and enter a “sh**t disturbing post which has been resting dormant in my inactive brain awaiting an activator to begin the compost process needed to fertilize composition.

    This activator was brilliantly provided by the following post.

    Buzz Lightbeer ,October 18, 2013 at 4:33 pm
    “Man everything about that Bournival goal was beautiful. Talk about a situation where every player was doing what they should be doing to a tee. Moen digging in the corner,Pk dipsy doodle otherworldly puck handling,Markov with the no look instinct pass and the kid burying it home.”

    And as they say in Dunboyne Mike’s neck of the woods, “Aye Laddie for there’s the rub”.

    Let’s examine this play. The team was on a Power Play. The players on the ice were so positioned that P.K. Subban was the LAST man back on that side of the rink. Markov would NEVER have been able to catch a ‘steal and break-away’ by the opposition. And what was the ‘safe’ and(based on the HABS power play scheme) ‘coached’ play for P.K to make. Pass the puck to Markov and … who would either pass back to P.K or fire away at the net hoping for a deflection or ‘seeing eye’ goal. And you can hum and haw as much as you want. This is what you will see and probably should see in the HABS power play time and time and time again.

    But this time P.K did not follow the ‘script’. He deked one man.. and then he ‘deked’ another man. Both high risk plays. I don’t have to tell all you hockey experts the ‘lapse before recovery’ that a ‘deked hockey play’ goes through. I don’t have to tell you how it wrecked the ‘PK box’. The rest is history as brilliantly recorded by Buzz Lightbeer above. That began a sequence of the poetry and fluidity of highly skilled amazingly executed ‘tick-tack-toe’ play which brings fans out of their seats and cause posters to wax effusively “where the frak did P.K have those moves”.

    And you see THAT’S the rub. THAT’s the reason why it was sh**T arse coaching by MT to PUBLICLY dump on P.K as he did. P.K could have been stripped of the puck in any of those dekes. Very easily so. But what if he doesn’t try them. What if his impetuous talent doesn’t overcome caution at that moment.
    Well remember the playoffs against Ottawa. Remember the late season swoons in last season short schedule. Remember the ‘cold’ power play. Remember my cry of FIX THE PP. How many of us were just hoping that someone would break out of the ‘normal pattern’ of puck back to the point. Shot from the point. Gather puck and back to the point and repeat. How many of us were hoping that someone would do what a man advantage used to summon in the good old days. Razzle dazzle puck movement afforded by having that one extra man.

    As a fan I have lived through the last 30 years or so of coaches and management making the HABS play the ‘Gainey/Lemaire’ brand of ‘safe’ hockey. They are experts and I respect that brand and the effort put into it. I do not in any way suggest that we should totally discard responsible structured play for reckless extemporization. In fact a team is bonded together by the structure in its style of play.

    But a great coach must realize that in a sport like hockey (which I admit I know little about) and soccer (which I know a freakin lot about), a coach must not divest himself of the skill and imagination of his ‘gifted players’ by publicly chastising them every time a high ‘reward’ play succumbs to the ‘high risk’ setback.

    Think again if P.K had been stripped of that puck. Based on MT’s DEMONSTRATED propensity, what would have been his reaction. If P’K or any other play reacts to ‘losing the puck’ with laziness and resignation, I say “give him SH**T and stop him from busting out his moves. But if a player normally shows the drive and intensity to ‘get back into the play’ when something goes wrong then you coach him accordingly. Of course you counsel. Of course you advise and point out areas where more caution MUST be exercised. Of course you curtain impulsive recklessness. But if I may make a comparison. P.K is no Alan Iverson who sulks if his ‘play’ breaks down. He is more the Michael Jordan type who kicks into gear and busts his arse to recover. And you have to coach him accordingly.

    But you do not PUBLICLY’ call out you ‘star players’ everytime they try and make a ‘starry’ play.

    And this is why I shall maintain that MT was wrong and misguided. And that sort of coaching is detrimental to the prospects of this franchise developing the star players that we have seen in the past and long for again.

    And this is why as the next game approaches I fear that on the next attempt by P.K (or anyone) to make that ‘starry play’, something bad may happen and MT’s reaction (and many of the posters here also) will react like MT. And again we will end up with a HABS team loaded with a bunch of ‘ordinary’ players always making ordinary plays.

    I have kinda had enough of that sort of team.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I like this and agree. At first I thought you were going to dump on PK and I was beginning to take umbrage. But calling out MT is a different thing and well deserved. Habs brass seems to eagerly join the queue to belittle PK, and I don’t understand it.

  2. Ian Cobb says:

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    Thank you so much for your help.

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  3. Dennis says:

    Good morning. Lars Eller will be at Classic Auctions on Sunday from 3 to 5 signing autographs if you’re interested. My wife and I are gonna be helping out because I work there. It’s in Delson on the south shore at 215 St. Francois-Xavier.

    Dennis-Kane.com

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Cheers, Dennis. If I didn’t live on the wrong continent I’d be there! Always enjoy your site, would love to bring a pocket-full of bucks to one of your auctions and pick up some memorabilia to bring here and help educate my family and neighbours (and pupils and colleagues and anyone else who doesn’t get out of the room quick enough!).

      Did you see the 1971 t-shirt stencils we were talking about and found on the net last week?

      Hope you and Mrs Dennis have an interesting day in Delson.

      • Dennis says:

        Mike, I did see those stencils. Really cool. Giveaways used to be so great.
        I saw a hockey card set the other day from about 1915 and on the back of each it said if you send in the full set of 30 cards, they’ll give you a pair of hockey skates. (the kind you strap on your boots). Maybe a good deal then but not now, considering what those cards are worth..

        Dennis-Kane.com

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          What interesting stuff you see!

          So why wasn’t there a Hab among those six stencils?!

          Have you seen Olympic figurines from a 1968 Kelloggs giveaway? I loved those, and reckon companies were onto a good thing in those days. I wonder what happened.

          • Dennis says:

            Mike, I haven’t seen those Olympic figurines. Now I’m curious. My favourite is the Bee Hives that we’d send away for. And of course hockey coins found in jello and potato chips.

            Dennis-Kane.com

    • Ian Cobb says:

      See you at the Summit Dennis !

  4. John Q Public says:

    Who’s the better player Nilan or Prust?
    Nilan had a year in which he scored 21.
    Prust has maxed out at 13 so far in his career.

    Both are tough as nails (not Yakupov) and take on all challengers.
    I give the edge to Nilan but Prust may be better in the long run.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Always tricky (or ill-advised!) to compare players from different eras, so I’ll side-step and suggest that both guys would have scored extremely high on the meter that measures how much the other players value you as a team-mate.

    • The Cat says:

      Its hard to say, but I think Prust has had more of an impact on the teams hes played for.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  5. Maritime Ronn says:

    Carey Price has had a very good start to his season, yet as what happens to all goalies, he will go through some less than great stretches.
    That’s the nature of the position.

    So the question becomes, what should almost be expected in a full 82 game schedule?

    Looking back on the last complete 82 game season in 2011/12, Henrik Lundqvist won the Vezina Trophy playing on a Rangers team that won the Eastern Conference and was 2nd overall in the NHL.
    He also played in front of one of the best shot blocking teams in the NHL that year.

    Lundqvist appeared in 60 games, and while he had many great performances that would be expected from a Vezina winning year, there were also some less than great runs:

    – Twice during the year, HL recorded 3 losses in a row.
    – In one of those 3 game consecutive losses, he gave up 10 goals.
    – 4 other times, HL recorded 2 losses in a row.
    – To start the year, HL posted a record of 2 wins-6 losses(3 OTL)
    – Twice, HL had 5 game stretches of 1 win-4 losses.

    – In 1 game, Lundqvist had an SP of .765 giving up 4 goals on 17 shots.
    – In 14 other games, Lundqvist had a Save Percentage between .842-.897.
    His record in those games was 5W-9L, and in those 5 wins, the Rangers scored a bunch of goals – at least 4.

    Therefore, if Carey has a bit of a bad stretch, perhaps we should remember the above from a Lundqvist Vezina winning year.
    Of course most Habs fans will be patient….luckily Carey never gets judged on 1 goal or 1 period or 1 game…

  6. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Encouraging news from Winnipeg:

    Jacob Trouba ✔ @JacobTrouba
    Thanks for the support. If you were wondering, the boards are not edible. I’ll be back soon. #gojetsgo

    I think a lot of posters here were really impressed by the kid in our game and are wishing him well.

  7. Cal says:

    Saturday Night’s All Right
    Ought to be a good one, what with Rinne, Weber and Jones.
    Hope the Habs bounce them out of the building.

  8. HabFab says:

    Weekly Prospect Stats Update;

    QMJHL
    Fucale – 12GP – 8-4 – 2.55 GAA – .903 Svs%
    Gregoire – 11GP – 12G + 6A – 11 PIM
    Hudon – 12GP – 5G + 10A – 27 PIM
    Reway – 8GP – 2G + 4A – 6 PIM

    OHL
    Crisp – 10GP – 4G + 6A – 30 PIM
    McCarron – 8GP – 1G + 4A – 15 PIM
    Vail – 10GP – 7G + 5A – 9 PIM

    WHL
    Bozon – 12GP – 3G + 4A – 13 PIM
    Thrower – 7GP – 4G + 3A – 8 PIM

    NCAA
    Bennett – 3GP – 0 + 0 – 4 PIM
    Cichy – 3GP – 0 + 0 – 0 PIM
    Didier – 3GP – 0 + 0 – 8 PIM
    MacMillan – 3GP – 2G + 2A – 6 PIM

    USHL
    Sullivan – his season has not started

    Europe
    Collberg – 9GP – 0 + 3A – 4 PIM
    de la Rose – 14GP – 2G + 3A – 6 PIM
    Lehkonen – 14GP – 3G + 7A – 4 PIM

  9. Marc10 says:

    Nashville ,eh? Can’t wait to see Seth Jones. Pierre Macguire says TB and Florida made a colossal mistake in not drafting the kid. Compares this blunder to Pronger and Daigle. This should be good.

    Here’s hoping we smoke the Preds regardless and keep on trucking.
    Go Habs Go.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Wonder if young stud Filip Forsberg is playing. He was gifted to the Preds. Peacock Pierre has created his current persona and he has cornered himself in that anything he says he feels has to be sensational. The comparison is unbalanced because MacKinnon was the first overall like Daigle was. If he’s predicting the same career paths for Aleksander Barkov and Jonathan Drouin, very few would upgrade PM’s credibility.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  10. Maritime Ronn says:

    JUST ME wrote:
    “I need to vent a bit. Why is it these days that every time there is a big player about to sign a new deal (read P.K.) we have to fear the terrible offer sheet .
    Now the medias are talking about Philadelphia or New York or even Toronto who would maybe be interrested in making an offer.
    ———————
    First off, the role of some in the media is to make up a story… where no story exists.
    Sometimes you have to wonder if some of them actually understand the process.

    The chances of PK receiving an Offer Sheet – then Subban actually accepting and signing the Offer Sheet – then the Habs NOT matching the Offer Sheet to retain his playing rights which is the Habs CBA right to do so, are between slim and none…and slim left the building a long time ago.

    Since the 2005 CBA, only 8 Offer Sheets have been put out there.
    7 were matched by the team, and only Dustin Penner was not matched way back in 2007.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_who_have_signed_offer_sheets

    Then the questions of Compensation or Retribution.

    Any team that would propose PK an Offer Sheet would fall into the category of very high and risky compensation.
    In the case of PK, that would definitely be Four (4) 1st Round Draft picks.
    Last summer RFA Compensation:
    Over $8,410,976 – Four first-round choices
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=676637

    Lastly, making Offer Sheets to rich teams for their Stars – or even teams such as Nashville when Philly did the Shea Weber offer back in 2012, are almost always matched.
    It’s also a dangerous game to play for a GM as 1 day, he will also have to deal with his own RFAs….and a hostile or payback Offer Sheet could mess up his own team.

    What is more dangerous for the Habs at this moment is IF – and yes, a big IF, Subban refused a long term offer and decided on Arbitration for 2 years leading to UFA status in the summer of 2016.
    While unlikely, the possibility is always there.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Mornin’ Merrytimes. PK’s next contract with the Habs will be ground-breaking in term (the 8 years max), dollar amount (8+), and for NHL defencemen (>Shea Weber). Carey’s 6.3 I regard as the largest in-house contract in the 104 year history of the club. Many will argue Gomez’s 7.5, but that was a bad story with Bob playing the hero in Jack and the Beanstalk and an alternative ending.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Cal says:

      Offer sheets are the NHL’s and the PA’s way of getting BIG offers for players. I am not surprised that they don’t work.
      Real star players like PK are rare. He will get the big bucks here and be with the Habs for a looooong time. And that’s a very good thing.
      Bet all those GMs who skipped over him on draft day are smacking their heads against a wall.

  11. frozengolf says:

    In case it hasn’t been posted yet, here is a good article on Peter Budaj:

    http://thehockeywriters.com/peter-budaj-quintessential-nhl-backup/

    _________________________________________________________
    “We know that hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death. Life is just a place where we spend time between games.”

  12. Bill says:

    Hobie, it’s hard not to get attached to some players, and to me it’s part of the fun of being a fan. Though I’m not saying I don’t see where you’re coming from.

    In any case, none of my favourite players in my lifetime – Lafleur, Robinson, Carbonneau, Muller, Roy, Koivu – managed to retire as a Hab, so I guess business does rule and I should get used to it.

    Except, you know, maybe I am actually right, because in each of those cases the Habs would have been much better off keeping those players until the end of their careers!

    • chemic says:

      sending or lets say, chasing away koivu wasnt really business, it was just dumb. i really hope the Molsons and MB have more class than those lousy senators, sabres and flames and let an all time great and loyal guy like Markov retire here. even today there is room for both, business and sentimentality.

  13. Bugs says:

    Happy he was alert after get yanked down by Orr (yeah, that’s right, I said it, Orr DONE it on purpose. totally believed the accident story at first, then ma crew showed me on super-slomo the next day Orr givin an EXTRA yank once on the ice, yeah, a SECOND yank, and it convinced me. hey man, sorry, maybe it STILL is an accident, but uhhhh…..yyyyYEAH, I think he done gone did it…purposefully-like)
    Anyway, happy Georgie (he says he’s called Georgie; I’m gonna argue with the guy? uhh…No.) was let out fine from el-hospitalé.
    Great that he’s back on the ice.
    Now we’re at “when’s he goin contact, when’s he in the roster, when’s he gonna get on the ice, when’s he gonna get his shift back, when’s he gonna be at 100%?” All great questions.
    My question is: When’s he gonna PUNCH?
    Huh?
    Honest. When’s THAT goin down?
    I LIKE watching him PUNCH. He’s GOOD at it. Ahhhhh, hockey; what great sport! When’s he gonna punch someone in the face for lookin at our favorite team funny? That’s what I like. Good FACE-punchin.
    Except if the face is mine. Then it is NOT good.
    I wouldn’t like that. Tell Georgie anybody’s face but mine.
    Not like I could punch back or nuthin; last time I threw a haymaker, I clobbered MEself! That’s what happens when you got a boggle-head and a 3-foot-long arm.
    Anyway, I’m happy. What a character.

    too bad the ice knocked him out first game…

    Left turn-missin’ L. B. Potter.

  14. Timo says:

    So… looks like Nick Tarnasky to replace Pacioretty on the first line then? Is that what I am reading?

  15. Bill says:

    Yeah, Hobie, maybe. Or maybe we keep him a couple more years, the young core of the team improves, and he’s part of the veteran leadership of a Cup win.

    Even if it didn’t happen, Markov is one player I’d like to see the Habs keep through retirement. And like I said, chances are the draft pick we get for him doesn’t even ever make an impact.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I personally think Markov misses the window. I think we’re waiting for guys like Galchenyuk to hit 25-years-old, McCarron to become a regular NHLer and Tinordi and Beaulieu to mature.

      There’s a possibility we get a first rounder back for Markov and he never pans out but I’d rather take that chance, I’m guessing he’ll at least turn out to be some sort of player, than do nothing.

      To each is own I guess. I try top look past the human aspect of things and not get too attached and loyal to a player.

  16. SmartDog says:

    Ya gotta feel for Louis Leblanc.

    But if he has the talent, you’d think he’d be working his tail off to light the lamp in Hamilton. If he IS… well, something just wrong.

    ————————————-
    Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

  17. HardHabits says:

    Montreal is 5th over-all in goals for per game and 4th over-all in goals against. That is a real sweet place to be.

    Only Montreal and San Jose are top 5 in both categories.

  18. JUST ME says:

    I need to vent a bit. Why is it these days that every time there is a big player about to sign a new deal (read P.K.) we have to fear the terrible offer sheet .
    Now the medias are talking about Philadelphia or New York or even Toronto who would maybe be interrested in making an offer. The key word here is maybe meaning that the have no clue and are creating the whole story. I say this is BS and the medias create those kind of stories when they have no real reason to bitch about the Habs.
    I do not listen to Bergie a lot cause i think he should be placed in a museum and when he starts in his delirium saying P.K. is the greatest palyer in the world,is going to be expensive and that maybe offer sheets will follow i just switch channels…

    I just find it annoying cause we have for months to hear about that BS when actually we will never know the thruth…

    • db says:

      Pk says he wants to play in Montreal… I don’t see him signing an offer sheet unless MB completely insults him with a terrible offer. At this point I think everybody expects 8×8.

  19. jols101 says:

    @UCe, how is LL looking?

  20. Un Canadien errant says:

    Nick Tarnasky has two goals, the game is tied 2-2 as the Bulldogs head into overtime.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Bulldogs 16 shots to 4 for the Monsters in the 3rd and overtime. They’ve come back to essentially tie the shots, 25-26.

      They were playing without Martin St. Pierre and Mike Blunden.

      Gabriel Dumont has two assists.

      Greg Pateryn has the hardest shot on the ‘Dogs according to Derek Wills, their play-by-play man.

      They’re headed to the shootout.

      • HardHabits says:

        Stop it. I am refreshing my page every 15 seconds now.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Gabriel Dumont stopped, the Monsters are up 1-0.

        Tokarski stops second Monster shooter.

        Maxime Macenauer stopped in his attempt.

        Next Monster scores, they’re up 2-0.

        Nick Tarnasky is poke-checked, fails to score.

        Next Monster puts it in, they win the shootout 3-0, the game 3-2.

        Hamilton Bulldogs are 0 for 8 in shootouts this season.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          First goal was a front of the net scrum, Nick Tarnasky banged in a rebound after taking a few whacks at it. Second was on a deflection of a Magnus Nygren shot from the blue line.

          Bulldogs were 1 of 6 on the powerplay, and gave up a shorthanded goal. They killed 3 of 4 penalties.

          • vancouverite says:

            Went to see the Vancouver Giants – Kamloops Blazers game in the Pacific Coloseum Tonight. It was my first WHL game, and I must say I was very impressed with the intensity and skill.
            Tim Bozon had a couple nice wristers that ended up in the goalie’s chest. I am not too sure how good his chances are to make it to the NHL, I didn’t see much to his game apart from his shot. Oh yeah, and he had a fight with 10 min left and his team trailing 5-0…
            Dalton Thrower is half of the Giants’ team. He leads them defensively and offensively, making good first passes and taking on offensive players with no fear. He scored a nice goal from the point when the game could still go either way, and he proved to be the most dominant player on the ice throughout the game.
            Dominates the game at this level, very curious how he takes it to the next. I must admit i remain more impressed by Darren Dietz’ offensive play, though Thrower can throw his weight around more effectively.

  21. Haberoooo13 says:

    Quite the fundraiser for breast cancer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF2kZqiROA4#t=244

    Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  22. Luke says:

    McC starts on the 1st pp unit. Domi scored his first of the season. McC not in on the scoring.

  23. jols101 says:

    Ugly, accidental play, has Trouba leaving the game on a stretcher. Hope he is okay. Man, players getting stretchered off left and right…

  24. Ian Cobb says:

    Ready to watch St. Louis game, after a fantastic marinated deer steak dinner on the Bar-B p-Q. And 4 ceaser’s !

    We do have a competitive team this year, every game is going to be exciting from start to finish.
    The league is so even now that any team can win against anyone in the league now.! So the coaching plays an even larger role in the out come of each game! I hope the Gazette asks the appropriate questions, about how each game plan is prepared for, and how it was executed. Coaching will be one of the largest factors in this years success.
    I have to go for another ceasor!

    New article below.
    Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments
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  25. Luke says:

    Watching the knights game (2-1 for oshawa). The few time McCarron’s been on the ice, its with Marner (?) and the goon. Looks like he is getting 3rd and 4th line duty tonight…

    • Luke says:

      London’s top 5 is set. the ruperts, horvat, domi, anderson are seeing the vast majority of the ice. If he (or anyone) has a slow start to that game, they get bumped out.
      By the end of the second, he’s played with a few more players. But not those 5.

      Also: could really use an hi/o android app…

  26. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I was just reading the link provided by Ben (Commandant) below: ”Canada’s Most Unwanted; 1 Player from Each team the Fans are throwing under the bus.’

    …and, I started thinking of PK’s pay-day ahead …likely in the range of 6 to 8 years (maybe longer) …and, at least $ 8 million per season

    …the 2 subjects interject in a way considering some of the noted ‘unwanted’ were once players that were salivated by their respective fans to be signed, at almost any cost

    …even without this particular list, there are many other players today that are financial anchors in the twilight of their careers and their value to a team is today far from equal value to the remuneration the team is ‘locked-in’ to pay

    …as of today PK Subban deserves to be remunerated equal to at least the precedents already established within the NHL market, no question

    …if You all feel like Me that He also should have a Life-time contract as a Hab, then that will mean locking Him up for 8 + years at $ 8 to 9 millions

    …but if PK being as human as all of Us, let’s say, begins to go ‘stale’ in 3 to 4 years …what will We be saying to Ourselves at that time ?

    …there is no doubt that the Montreal Canadiens will have to commit to such in the near future, or it’s Fan-base will go nuclear

    …it’s easy for Us to scream to Molson to sign Him, but from Geoff Molson’s perspective He must be signing any contract with PK with quite a quiver in His hand

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It could happen, Subban going stale in 3-4 years, but I think it’s highly unlikely. There’s also the fact that people believe the salary cap will continue to rise. So in 3 or 4 years from now $8 million per season might be a bit of a bargain when similar players to Subban are making $10 or $11 million.

      I think with Subban, he’s so competitive, that you don’t think twice about him fizzling off after he receives his big pay day. I’d sign him 8 year at $8 million, no problem.

    • Phil C says:

      No question that committing $64M of guaranteed money to any one person might cause a quiver in his hand. On the other hand, imagining the next eight years of PK playing for another team would probably give him nightmares and an ulcer.

      Anything can happen with any player, but PK is the closest thing to a sure thing as you’ll find. He’s already won the Norris and I don’t think he has even peaked yet, there will still be some upside in those 8 years which is a scary thought.

      The real tough decision will be what to do with Markov. He and Subban are developing a potentially legendary chemistry. The way they handled the puck on Bournival’s goal last night was really amazing and tough to defend against. PK’s shot becomes an incredible weapon when he has someone like Markov to tee it up for him on the PP. It would be nice to keep him around for at least another 3 years, but it won’t be cheap. And with Markov, the chance of a sudden drop off in performance is much higher as he approaches typical retirement age.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        The situation with Markov should probably be evaluated on a weekly basis. People say he looks better this year and that he seems a little more mobile. Then again, he’s been caught flat footed several times as well.

        It’s a tough call, Bergevin might be able to get a 1st rounder for him at the deadline. He’s a UFA next season, as is Gionta. If the Habs are out of the playoffs come deadline day I think both are gone. If they’re in a playoff spot, then things become interesting.

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …a PK and Markov combo should not be messed with, it’s a match made in Heaven

          …the NHL has gone through I believe 3 lock-outs in 10 years (correct Me if My numbers are wrong) …You would think that one of their make-or-break objectives would have been a no max as far as dollars as concerned, but an absolute max of 5 year contracts to keep teams from future financial hari-kiri, and protect themselves from their-selves

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            So you’d rather have Markov steadily declining for another two or three years, who will eventually retire before the Habs peak, than a 1st round pick or a very good young player at the deadline? I’m not so sure about that one?

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …PK covers for much of Markov’s slowing down, but Their offensive + defensive chemistry would not be duplicated by any other combo IMHO …Markov, barring another injury is good for another couple years

            …I understand Markov needs an extension, and I would pay Him slightly less or the same dollars if the cap raises significantly

            …I would only pass on Markov if the dollars don’t make sense

          • Phil C says:

            I will be very surprised if the Habs are out of the playoffs this year by the deadline, so I wouldn’t plan on a fire sale.

            He may not decline steadily. To me, he looks better than last year. Lidstrom played some great seasons in his late 30s. I would think 3 more years would be relatively safe. If he wants 4-5 years, then I don’t know…

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            I know it might hurt at first but I’d like to see the Habs get as much as they possibly can for Markov and Gionta at the deadline.

            Send Tinordi and Beaulieu back down to Hamilton shortly and have them ready for a full season in the NHL next year.

        • Bill says:

          You can always trade established players for “the future”. But a competitive team needs veteran players too. The first rounder you get for Markov is four years away and might never pan out.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Cool, so we keep Markov, finish in anywhere from 6th to 10th spot for a few more years, he retires, and we get nothing back.

          • db says:

            I like what Markov stills brings, we’ll see how he’s doing after 20 games… he really slowed down last year, but I’m willing to give that one to him.

            I think we can still trade him (to the west) for a 1st rounder at the deadline and then resign him in the off season. He knows he would help his one true team ;)

  27. Strummer says:

    According to the Globe and Mail’s David Shoalts Darcy Regier is on thin ice and Rick Dudley is a candidate to replace him:

    “The problem is, if Pegula fires Regier 10 games into a season finding a replacement will not be easy. Almost all of the best candidates are already under contract to other teams. Many of them, such as Dave Poulin and Claude Loiselle (executives with the Toronto Maple Leafs), or Montreal Canadiens assistant GM Rick Dudley, who played and coached in Buffalo, may only have a window in their contracts that lets them leave at the end of a hockey season.”

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/shoalts-if-sabres-gm-regier-stays-he-may-roll-the-dice/article14941851/

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • Bill says:

      Dudley is always mentioned in connection with that job, for obvious reasons, but there isn’t any reason to think Dudley wants it. I think it’s just lazy speculation on Shoalts’s part.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  28. Phil C says:

    Parros, Emelin, and Murray, that’s almost 700lbs of grit and hostility that is missing from the line-up. Getting them all back will be a nice Christmas present.

  29. habstrinifan says:

    Don’t know if it’s old news but Lapierre got 5 games.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      He should have got a lot more than that. I know the suspension shouldn’t hinder on who the player injures but Dan Boyle is a smaller player, a well respected and talented player, and I thought Lapierre was obviously trying to injure him.

      So here’s another case where the NHL doesn’t do enough and I hope the Sharks toughest players take matters into their own hands with Lapierre.

  30. chilli says:

    Nice to see Roy tied Mario Tremblay’s record of 6 straight wins for a new coach….
    They are now forever linked – twice.

  31. frontenac1 says:

    @Timo. Ireland? To Visit Mike? Damn. I might have to get in on that action. Hell of a road trip eh amigo?

  32. Hobie Hansen says:

    Good news that Emelin, Murray and Parros are on the comeback trail. The Habs have dodged a bullet by letting teams take the physical play to them, aside from the occasional Subban hit.

    Boone Jenner was having a field day in front of Price last night and that’s where guys like Emelin and Murray will come in handy. Also, Gorges and Diaz were hemmed in their own end for way too long.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Yup. I’m just glad all of our muscle happens to be injured at the start of the season rather than the playoffs. I think our squad could by with the current lineup for a good chunk of the regular season, but once the refs put their whistles away in March/April… well, we’ve seen what happens.

  33. commandant says:

    Canada’s Most Unwanted
    1 Player from Each team the Fans are throwing under the bus.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/18/canadas-most-unwanted/

    The Flames must decide on Monahan
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/18/monahans-fate-no-easy-decision/

    The Capitals Slow Start
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/18/capitals-start-slow-for-the-second-year-in-a-row/

    Go Habs Go!

  34. Timo says:

    @Dunboyne Mike – Mike, I’ll keep that option open (you might regret the offer later). Thank you, it is always nice to be invited somewhere.

  35. frontenac1 says:

    “Stache,Crankshaft and TU-74 back on the blades?That calls for a Double shot of Single Malt! Slainte Amigos!

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Slainte Front. I’m going to join you. 15 yr old Red Breast. Then early bed so I can watch tomorrow’s game.

      • crabvader says:

        What’s early? :P

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          It’s EDT+5 here in Dunboyne, and I normally work late (correcting homework…) and occasionally watch hockey til the small hours. So any time pre-midnight is early for me.

          Hey Timo I don’t think I could ever live in Calgary. I was at a two-week conference there and the whole city seemed to go to bed at 10pm.

          • Timo says:

            We are … sorry.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            You mean I didn’t imagine it?
            I thought you’d ask where I was and then tell me “Oh if only you went to X or Y — eesh, people are going crazy. 11.15, sometimes 11.30.”

            Who’s the poster who just moved to Calgary from… Singapore? Hong Kong?

          • Timo says:

            LOL, you didn’t. :)

          • rljmartin says:

            I was in Calgary about 15 years ago… Went out with some Latino friends. They seemed to know the hot spots. What gives Timo?

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Ok then here’s the deal. Before you and Mrs Timo become permanently affected, you need some therapy here in Ireland. You get yourselves here, I will provide the therapy. For example, even in the crossroads that is Dunboyne, there are no less than four establishments which all officially lock their doors and stop (or slow down) their service, yet no one leaves for another 2 hours or so (or until the police arrive, and then we just go out the back while they obligingly count steam-boats in front). You will return to Alberta pale and exhausted, but fulfilled and re-balanced.

          • Timo says:

            Well… I mean there are places here that are open until 3 am. I’ve even been to a couple and it was ok. Live music, drinks, pretty easy going ladies. But it’s not on the same scale as Mtl, for example. But sure, you can find entertainment.

            As for your invitation, you might regret it but we might take you up on that. Mrs Timo always wanted to go to Ireland and Scottland. You got a babysitter?

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            You got offspring?
            (Yes, babysitters)
            Make it happen!

          • rljmartin says:

            Timo… Here is another solution. Come to Cali, places stay open until 6am…. Good music, cheap liquor and the best weather ever. Try to imagine 20 to 25 degrees C every night of the year.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Weather completely sucks here, can’t compete with Cali.
            But depending what time of year it is, you could experience the hurling championships! Something Cali can’t offer!

          • rljmartin says:

            Ok Mike… Come on down in hurling off-season!

          • neumann103 says:

            Mike

            Try Ottawa.

            5:00PM

            No kidding.

            “Et le but!”

        • Timo says:

          @rljmartin

          I gladly would (and I’ve been and enjoyed it) but I think I’ve missed my chance. Now we are kind of settle in Calgary and we do like it here. But Cali in winter would definitely be a huge upgrade.

  36. habs001 says:

    Lets see what happens with Bournival over an extended period and not do so much projection…Some of the same posters are still doing praising and downgrading players based on a few games…Pouliot what a steal..will score 30 plus goals..what talent(after one week with the Habs)…some of the comments made by posters who continue to do the same thing now based on very small sample size…

  37. Kooch7800 says:

    BULLDOGS ANNOUNCE TVA SPORTS BROADCAST SCHEDULE

    By: Hamilton Bulldogs
    10/18/2013 2:36 PM –
    HAMILTON, ONTARIO – The Hamilton Bulldogs announced today that TVA Sports Network, the club’s French language broadcast rights holder, will televise eight of the team’s road games this season, beginning with the first installment of the American Hockey League’s Battle of Ontario this season on Sunday, October 20th, when the Bulldogs visit the Toronto Marlies at Ricoh Coliseum in Toronto, Ontario.

    Hamilton’s complete schedule of TVA Sports Network broadcasts is as follows (all times Eastern; schedule subject to change):

    Sunday, October 20th, 2013, 3:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)
    Saturday, December 7th, 2013, 5:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)
    Wednesday, December 18th, 2013, 12:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Chicago Wolves (St. Louis Blues)
    Thursday, December 26th, 2013, 1:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)
    Saturday, January 25th, 2014, 7:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Lake Erie Monsters (Colorado Avalanche)
    Sunday, February 9th, 2014, 3:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)
    Saturday, March 1st, 2014, 3:00 p.m. – Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)
    Sunday, March 16th, 2014, 3:00 p.m.- Hamilton Bulldogs at Toronto Marlies (Toronto Maple Leafs)

    – See more at: http://hamiltonbulldogs.com/pressbox/news/?article_id=476#sthash.cuQXw8Fc.dpuf

  38. keviathan says:

    Man Murray (I think it’s him) looks HUGE in that first video compared to the trainer

  39. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    Man everything about that Bournival goal was beautiful. Talk about a situation where every player was doing what they should be doing to a tee. Moen digging in the corner,Pk dipsy doodle otherworldly puck handling,Markov with the no look instinct pass and the kid burying it home.

  40. shiram says:

    Trevor Gillies brings a new degree of protecting the goalie.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcBayAFHqHg

  41. shiram says:

    So Las Vegas finally signed Bryzgalov to a contract, as emergency backup goalie.
    http://www.echl.com/echl-transactions-oct-18-p187885

  42. DipsyDoodler says:

    Player / GP / G / A / P

    Jarome Iginla / 6 / 0 / 1 / 1

    • ProHabs says:

      All of a sudden Briere is not looking so bad

      • Kooch7800 says:

        no….he still does

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • rljmartin says:

        You think? Look at Jarome’s linemates!

        PS: Had more ice time than any Boston forward last night but they sure cheered him in his first game at the Gardens…. Why?…. He fought….

        • Kooch7800 says:

          put it this way…and give your honest opinion…who will have more points at the end of the season..Briere or Iginla and who will miss more time with Injuries.

          Iginla’s cap hit is cheaper unless he hits all of his bonus marks which i believe puts him around 4.25 for the year. I would still rather have Iginla in the line up over briere

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • rljmartin says:

            All he has to do is show up for something like 10 more games and bingo… 3.7 million bonus… I think he’ll make it!

            Total pay 6M…

        • TheDagger says:

          So what you’re saying is Briere needs to fight..

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I think he actually did in the preseason didn’t he? but they got 4 minutes as they just hugged and rolled around

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • rljmartin says:

            Yessir… a real bear hug at that.

  43. krob1000 says:

    So far the Canadiens have given up 13 goals in 7 games…that is under 2 goals per game and we are complaining about the d? Maybe we should spend a game in bizarro world and cheer for the other team for a night..let’s watch their players every moves and see if we woudl swap enitre d corps with other teams dcorps…

    • ProHabs says:

      Yes, I think Diaz would be perfect on the 3rd pairing with Murray or Tinordi. But right now we need him as a 2nd pairing and he is doing the job. Not sure what all the complaining is about. He is all we got right now.

      • krob1000 says:

        Personally although guys like DIaz and Gorges don;t take the puck or eliminate guys with ease they do maintain good position and keep guys contained moreo ften than not…personally I think the forwards are more responsible (along with a lack of winning one on one battles) for the long sustained pressure.

        What people often forget though is that with the obstruction, holding, no clutch grab era before us defending is much more difficult than it used to be. Hitting a guy is risky now n your own end..if you miss you can reach out like you used to…so guys now if they are not certain they are going to make the hit and separate player from puck they are content to maintain position between their man and the net(think basketball general defensive principles)…this is just he way things have evloved.

        The only part that is concerning is that once the playoffs roll around the rules apper to change…and this does concern me…but now the Canadiens look to have guys who will be able to play both styles once healthy.
        Guys no longer “clear creases” like they used to, now they defend often from in front of the guy who is standing out front and they stick check from behind. They do this so they can be the first line of d and try to block the shot,etc. They can no longer “tie up a stick” lick they used to…now they must stick check in a more pure form adn htis is easier from behind the attacking forward sometimes.

        We still watch the game in the frame of mind of a different era IMO on defense…everyone seems to have evolved offensively noticing every little tug against one of our own but not the nuances and attention to positional play that has taken over the game.

  44. vancouverite says:

    Off to the Pacific Colloseum tonight to watch the Vancouver Giants host the Kamloops Blazers… Looking forward to see Thrower face off against Tim Bozon !! Haven’t seen much of these two kids, so looking forward to doing so tonight !!

    • B says:

      Captain Thrower leads the Giants with 3 goals and 6 points in 6 games. After a slow start, Bozon had 2 goals in his last game. I hope both of them put on a good show for you tonight.

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • Morenz7 says:

        My dad has season’s tix in Kamloops. General consensus in the peanut gallery there is that Bozon doesn’t have the fire to make the NHL. That could change, but last year his numbers were inflated, they say, from playing with older players, J.C. Lipon and Colin Smith. Both moved on this year to A.

        This is the assessment of a cadre of old farts in a town that loves its junior hockey—so take it for what it’s worth. But these old farts have seen a lot of players who made the bigs, and a lot more who didn’t.

        • krob1000 says:

          Some times guys like BOzon need beter playes…but they are pure finishers and that skill can’t be taught. I don’t think anyone has thought Bozon was a guy who would create for himself…think more Michael Ryder type guy. Guy who finds his holes adn guy who just manages to score goals. I have only seen a couple of Bozon games on the tube and am basing this totally on what I have read of him since he became Habs property but there is still hope for those guys.

          • Morenz7 says:

            Indeed. Michael Ryder, for one, has had an improbably long and prosperous NHL career. But when he was young, Ryder showed a lot of determination, too, for which he doesn’t always get credit.

        • B says:

          Thanks for sharing their insights. Having watched him a lot they should know what they are talking about, but I hope Bozon can turn it up and change their opinion on his compete level. As one of the older Blazers this season he should be one of their leadership guys now.

          –Go Habs Go!–

  45. Cal says:

    Just thought I would mention the H Show with Stu, Stubbs and Knuckles. It’s on the home page here on HIO and is worth watching and commenting on.
    So, folks, use it or lose it.

  46. HammerHab says:

    So Subban is on pace for 117 points. Obviously he won’t hit that….that’s a ridiculous number, especially for a defenseman. I say he hits 110….115 max.

    ———————————–

    It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  47. naweed235 says:

    Once the Emelinator and Murray are back, I think it would be a good thing for both Beaulieu and Tinner to go play big minutes in Hamilton. They are both good D-men however, it’s very clear that they both need some seasoning. Maybe next year with possibly Murray and Markov out of the picture, they’ll get their chance.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      hopefully that is the plan. They are both still very young and now know what they have to work on

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Morenz7 says:

      Absolutely. They won’t like it (“bitter” was the word NB used on 24CH to describe the feeling of being sent down). But they gotta be good when they arrive.

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      Nothing good will come of Markov leaving. He’s being taken for granted big time now that PK is #1.

      ——————————————————————–
      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!
      @Hstands4Hockey

  48. 100HABS says:

    As like many here, I have not enjoyed seeing Brière play this year. But they say he is a late starter. And his stats show he’s a playoff performer.

    Cole was like that too. I think we need to be patient before throwing him under the bus. I’d rather that than Mr. October (Remember Brian Savage?)

  49. Ian Cobb says:

    HOLY SMOKES!!
    OVER 200 HIO FANS ATTENDING DIFFERENT SUMMIT EVENTS!!!

    I just received a donation of two Subban signed sticks, pair of very well used Subban gloves and a signed Subban helmet with his shield still on it.

    SOME EARLY GREAT NEWS
    In this 30 team league, here is how we place today!
    I will post this every Sunday during the year. Starting after our Fan Summit Oct 25th and 26th. see you all there.

    Total Points———10. We are in 8th place.
    Goals For————25. We are in 5th place.
    Goals Against——-13. We are in 4th place.
    Goal Differential–+12. We are in 3rd place.

    New article below.
    Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Montreal-Canadiens-We-Are-Fans-Summit/197390760316125

  50. Dunboyne Mike says:

    @Ian Cobb
    Cheers, Ian!

  51. B says:

    That bum Raphael Diaz after 7 games:
    4 points (20th among 214 NHL D)
    +3 (28th among 214 NHL D)
    21:23 TOI/G (58th among 214 NHL D)
    16 blocked shots (24th among 214 NHL D)

    –Go Habs Go!–

  52. anotherhab says:

    Nice to see that we’ll have some “Beef” back in the line up soon!
    — and don’t play Toronto until end November and Boston not till the first part of December –

  53. likehoy says:

    who would you rather have in their primes?

    Raphael Diaz or Patrice Brisebois?

  54. Maksimir says:

    This will be an entirely different lineup when Emelin/Parros/Murray are in… but it might mean Hamilton for Tinordi if Murray proves a decent 3rd pair starter. Or Diaz/Boullion lose their regular spot?

    I also wonder who Parros will displace? Hopefully not Bournival… I’d rather see Briere in the pressbox instead.

  55. krob1000 says:

    Fantastic news! Parros looked pretty good that game and was handling Orr who is as tough as they get. When these 3 are in the lineup maybe they can stop teams from taking liberties with Gallagher adn others. PRetty sad state when Galchenyuk gets a roughing penalty sticking up for a teammate. Good on him but not something the team can afford to have happen.

  56. Danno says:

    Glad to hear about this. Hope he is 100% and fully recovered when he returns. We sure are going to need him.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  57. Thurston says:

    Good to see Parros continuing to make progress.
    Looking forward to seeing him back in the Habs’ lineup.

  58. HabsLifer says:

    Great news! How many think Diaz will de displaced when Emelin comes back? Probably good trade bait.

    Claude Provost Rocked!

  59. Walmyr says:

    GO PARROS!!!

  60. HabsLifer says:

    Fisrt?

    Claude Provost Rocked!


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