Paper hats or paper bags?

What will you be sporting in the way of headwear for your Montreal Canadiens’ New Year’s Eve game against the Florida Panthers?

Dave Stubbs wraps up 2011, looks at 2012

Less ice time for Plekanec

Warm weather threatens Classic

Marc-Antoine Godin on Julien BriseBois

U.S. Juniors bounced by Czechs

Red Fisher on the excellence of the Bruins

Stu Cowan on Pierre McGuire

Stu Hackel on the Rangers-Flyers rivalry

A new mash-up:


  1. idle says:

    er… so he has no history of racial slurs in the past. So it’s O.K this time then?

  2. coldness81 says:

    Wow, so many PM haters here.
    Serge Savard 1983 1995
    Rejean Houle 1995 2000
    Andre Savard 2000 2003
    Bob Gainey 2003 2010
    Pierre Gauthier 2010 to present

    Not for anything why would PM be such a bad choice. A GM has to be able to evaluate players and organization needs. Look at the list above? What have they done? Please don’t talk about serge coming back, he’s in real estate now and i don’t want to get into some of his trades either. let alone the other geniuses.

    I’m for getting the best GM out there and i’m not saying it’s PM but why would someone like Bowman speak so highly of him if he were an idiot? They might be friends but at the same time i think we have to say Bowman wouldn’t risk his credibility.

    Anyways it’s all good. like i have said for a while give 2 more weeks of loosing and bob gainey will jump in as interim gm and coach and try to sell off some of his horrible trades and acquisitions.

    habs = cap suicide (only way for us to keep some of our younger talent will be to send some people to the minors… and that’s how it stands now)

    the whole notion that a new CBA will allow teams to get out of bad contracts is nuts; they did that in the last CBA because it was the first time a salary cap was installed. they are more likely to add a rule saying if you signed them it counts on the cap regardless of where they are playing? The point of the cap was to force teams to be good with their resource spending. The top teams shouldn’t be allowed to bury bad contracts and outspend other team.. that’s not parity

    • Mark C says:

      Simply put, PM would be a bad choice because it is highly likely that there are other better choices available.

      • coldness81 says:

        Who would you consider or who would be on your short list?

        I would love to get Scotty to tell you the truth. My interview with Mr Bowman would be, what do u want and it’s yours.

        • Mark C says:

          If French is a must then Julien BrisBois, and Claude Loiselle are tops on my list.

        • aj says:

          In all honesty sake as far as all this ‘potential candidates’ to replace Pierre Gauthier is concerned, the only viable and best choice is none other than the guy who’s going to receive a medal in the Order of Canada next year.

          Scotty Bowman did his dues and is regarded as the greatest coach in the NHL (i don’t agree personally). It’s a travesty that he would’ve become GM in the late 70’s if Irving Grundman wasn’t chosen to take it. If that had happened, the space in between 1978 to 1993 should’ve had produced a 5th Stanley Cup.

          If Bowman does agree to become GM of the Canadiens come post-season (if Geoff Molson CAN convince him), boy the owner will be having a legend to get THE RIGHT PLAYERS to play for his team.

        • Curtis O Habs says:


    • ont fan says:

      If there is a change it should probably be an assistant GM of another team… Brisbois or Nill from Detroit would be good choices

  3. Habsrule1 says:

    Chances are most of you know better than Scotty, but he endorses McGuire:

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Mattyleg says:

      I get it. You see him on TV a lot and think he’d be good.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habsrule1 says:

        lol nice try. We don’t know how he’d do. I just want the Habs to consider everyone that may be a good candidate, then choose the best one.
        I’m sure you and all your buddies have had interviews for NHL GM jobs, so I guess it’s not that big a deal.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  4. PeterStone says:

    I’m pretty stunned that people still believe they can make the playoffs. Although I wont say its impossible, I will say its highly improbable. The worse thing this team can do is make trades to try to make the playoffs. This season is lost, lets not make more stupid deals to make next season a waste as well.

    Oh, in case you were wondering, has Montreal at an 18% probability to make the playoffs.

    • coldness81 says:

      i don’t mind if they make trades to try and improve the team but they can’t trade away picks or young talent unless they pick up something that will help them out long term. Unfortunately, first round picks are harder to get these days and the habs have a lot of salary that would be hard for the majority of the top teams to eat up.

      AK and pleks are your most valuable players to trade when u consider salary and production

  5. idle says:

    Re Stu Cowan article on McGuire. I’m not much of a fan of McGuire, he can get under my skin at times. But this was a nice article and it’s nice that he seems to be doing well and got to spend some time with his family this Christmas.

    I’m happy for him, just don’t bring him to Montreal please : )

  6. Habsrule1 says:

    There are a few candidates that the Habs should consider. I hope they actually take the time and find a few people that may qualify and put them through a rigorous interview process.
    Whether or not McGuire gets an interview, I really don’t care. I just hope that the time is taken to get the absolute best GM available and not jusr recycle someone from within.

    Agree or disagree…..

    HAPPY NEW YEAR to the whole HIO family!

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  7. Habsolutely says:

    you guys are just starting drinking now?? I’ve been drinking since noon eastern time.

  8. adam76 says:

    Here is hoping for more losses in 2012. Every win just fracks our draft position. I was so happy when they blew it against the losing lighting – blow it up and rebuild.


    • Mattyleg says:


      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Bripro says:

      Didn’t they try that a few years back?

    • Habtastic says:

      Here’s hoping for the opposite. New year, new team. Let’s make the playoffs. We’re better than you think. Much better. GO HABS GO! Paper hats!

      The Drive for 25

    • Habsrule1 says:

      No way I can wish for losses for my Habs.
      Do you know if we sneak into the playoffs, we actually have a small chance to win the Cup? As unlikely as that is, I can never bring myself to wish for anything less than wins for my team.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Habtastic says:

        I am undeterred in my cheering for them and in my belief that we could make things happen in the playoffs if only we get our shit together +Markov (and I guess now Gionta and White…Gomez, I personally like, but lineup seems great to me right now). It’s a matter of execution, we have the team to do it. Didn’t EDM barely make the playoffs the year they went to the final? Yeah, let’s do that!

        The Drive for 25

    • el heffe says:

      i agree. For the first time in nearly thirty years i can say its time to start from scratch. Out with the tiny, ineffectual and old and in with the new. The more losses the better. Lets shoot for last

      Charge it to the Underhill’s.

  9. theox_8 says:

    Maybe julien bresbois is just the new face of the franchise and new shake up we need?

  10. Ian Cobb says:

    Jacques Martin former #Canadiens Head Coach talked to @nhlhomeice today for the 1st time- Have a Listen
    Jacques Martin

  11. Whatever says:

    Rather stupid to think Julien Brisebois is more qualified to be the Habs GM than his boss Steve Yzerman, or Ken Holland, Paul Holmgren, Peter Charelli, etc. (long list). However, I’d be in favour of it given the accepted insane way of trying to run a successful hockey team. Although, I have my conditions.

    Brisebois better be as smart as people think he is.

    As a successful young lawyer he had better be a kick ass negotiator. None of this, “We’ll also give you a first rounder for your massive salary dump” CRAP. Own the guy on the other end of the phone and steal stuff from his team that he doesn’t want to give up. In this regard, He’s more qualified than an experienced hockey person.

    He had better be respected, or least quick at earning respect around the league. Stevie Y hiring him is a good start.

    The most important criteria is that he accepts his limitations, particularly hockey knowledge. I can’t express this enough, hire the best freakin’ hockey people in the game to do the player research for professionals and amateurs. The GM can speak french, (yippee) so the people providing the hockey knowledge can speak Mandarin for all anyone cares. NHL GMs don’t run drafts, scouting departments do. Same thing with trades for Mr. Brisebois. The best hockey people in the game tell him the players that he needs and wants and Julien uses his best lawyer BS to swindle them away. He doesn’t even have to know anything about them, until the bilingual press conference.

    Finally, Brisebois can’t be a micro manager or have too big of an ego to think that he knows more about hockey than his staff. And, some of you people think Pierre McGuire is a good idea. Good lord.

    The key is obviously the killer hockey staff. Where are they and how do you get them? Average fans probably don’t know them or even should know them. They are the geniuses behind the men that stand at the podium. The people on the road or in the office while the GM is in front of the press, speaking whatever language that is required. Money shouldn’t be a problem. There is no cap on staff. I can think of better ways to spend $7 million on one person. Hell, if I’m Geoff Molson with the type of investment I have, I’d give Brisebois a million to be GM and Ken Holland $10 million to be assistant GM.

    I’ll give Julien Brisebois the benefit of the doubt that he is more than a francophone puppet or glorified interpreter, but that is really all the Habs need in regard to the GM position or head coach for that matter. Someone who speaks french that doesn’t get in the way of THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR THE JOB that makes the best decisions.

  12. Hobie Hansen says:

    Happy New years HIO buddies! Great debating with you as always!!!

    The lady is going to walk through the door in a bit, the place is a disaster and I’ve already had my first New Year’s beverage, so it’s time to go.

    GO HABS GO!!! Happy New Year!!!!

  13. Bobcat Bob says:

    Bobcat Bob

    How many games left??? Canadiens have a chance to win all of them !!!!!! This ship is not sinking. I will have alot of I told you sos
    ready for all the Negative Nellies on this site when they make the playoffs and do well. Just give up a healthy line-up for the rest of the season and it’s a lock, They will do well in the playoffs as well.
    Support your team don’t knock it. Go Habs Go — beat Florida.

    • HardHabits says:

      It is more likely that by the end of the season you’ll be signed into yet another of your umpteenth accounts as you’ll be too embarrassed to revisit this one.

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Don’t wanna pile on, but just how do you expect any team in today’s NHL to have a healthy line-up for the rest of the season? (especially at this point in time)

      (not a believer that the return of our wounded will make much of a difference considering who they are)

      i.e. Gomez, Markhov (hasn’t played meaningful minutes in years). Gionta, etc

  14. Mattyleg says:

    Pierre McGuire is an absolute ding-dong.

    He is the champion of hyperbole and totally gets wound up and overexcited. I can imagine him going nuts at the trade deadline and making idiotic trades, and saying that players are “Absolute Monsters”.

    Nae thank’ee.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Hobie Hansen
      December 31, 2011 at 1:16 pm

      Well you are dead wrong than Mattyleg…

      I can just copy and paste the same responses for all your comments…as I did here.

    • Bripro says:

      Mat, you’re kidding right?
      You don’t think he’s got the proper hockey savvy to turn this team around?
      His hockey knowledge is very impressive.
      He certainly couldn’t do any worse than PG, and he has more credibility throughout the NHL.

      • ZepFan2 says:

        “You don’t think he’s got the proper hockey savvy to turn this team around?”

        No. I agree with Matty. He’s over the top and he’d most likely overreact at the trade deadline.

        “His hockey knowledge is very impressive.”

        Than why has no other team approached this hockey genius to be their GM?

        Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

        • Bripro says:

          I think after he was mistreated in Ottawa and with his kids growing quickly, he chose family life first.
          He did interview for a few GM positions. No idea what the outcome was.
          We don’t know for certain why he’s not coaching again, but there’s no questioning his knowledge, his commitment or his contacts at the senior level. I think he could do better for the team than PG.

          Now if someone said to pick Patrick Roy as either coach or GM, then you can speak of over-the-top emotions.

          • ZepFan2 says:

            “He did interview for a few GM positions. No idea what the outcome was.”

            I can tell you the outcome. He wasn’t hired.

            Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Sorry Bri, don’t think PMcG has it.
        He’s a blowhard, and anybody who works that long as a commentator would develop great hockey knowledge.
        Nobody else has taken him on as GM in the many years he’s been on TV. Why should we do it?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habtastic says:

        Mcguire would be a horrible GM. Just thinking about the various reasons exhausts me so I’ll just leave it at that. There’s not talking to players as a GM and not facing the public. I imagine Emelin getting out of the shower to see PM there for an organizational evaluation. I can’t envision him talking to other GMs on the phone except in that broadcast voice (or even panel voice) where he’s basically yelling as if he just drank 5 red bulls. I’m willing to give Brisebois a chance. We’re talking about Patrice, right?

        The Drive for 25

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am with you Matty.

    • drivefor25 says:

      100% agree with you. McGuire would be a disaster. There’s a reason he hasn’t had a hockey job in decades.

      Fan since ’71

    • Bripro says:

      Personally, I’d like to see them bring Serge Savard back as GM.
      He achieved a lot in his time as GM.
      Then Ronald Corey promptly destroyed everything.

    • piper says:

      Matty, I’m not a big fan of McGuires show he puts on for TV but I do think he knows the game and he keeps up with whats going on in the jr leagues and universities. He would also deal with the issue of having a soft team which is the first thing that needs to be addressed. He also may be the best of the small group that would qualify.

      • Mattyleg says:

        There are plenty of people who follow the juniors and the university leagues. Doesn’t mean they’d be good GMs.

        I don’t see any reason whatsoever that he would address the ‘softness issue’. Apart from getting excited and offering too much money for one-sided players like Zenon Konopka, I can’t see him doing much.

        And if he’s the best, Piper, we’re better off with PG.
        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I disagree. Chances are he won’t get the job but just because you dislike him that does not change the fact that he may be qualified.
      Your comments simply suggest a dislike for him and are not based on facts at all.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Mattyleg says:

        My dislike of him is based on his temprerament, which is important when you’re a GM, and the fact that nobody else is interested in him despite his high TV profile.
        What facts are you basing your support of him on?
        And ‘he knows his hockey’ isn’t a fact that supports your argument.
        Don Cherry ‘knows his hockey’ and that doesn’t mean that he’d be a good GM.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Nobody else is interested is a little off. He has had 2 or 3 interviews for GM jobs in the past year. The fact that he was not chosen does not indicate no interest. It indicates that the teams decided someone was better…maybe even just a tiny bit better. Time will tell for those teams if they were right.
          I simply think McGuire should get an opportunity. the fact that he may be a “blowhard”, etc…really has little bearing.
          I don’t know for sure if he is qualified but I know that I have learned a lot over the years by listening to him. I’m not sure if you’d admit the same, but his hockey knowledge is not even debateable. That does not guarantee he’d be a good GM but he does seem to have respect from many people around the league and I like many of his ideas he has brought forth.
          Pair that with him learning a lot from Scotty Bowman and learning what it takes to win (he does have a Stanley Cup ring), and I think he should be considered.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • powdered toastmann says:

            This isn’t a ringing endorsement for McGuire. I guess I’m on fence re his potential as Habs’s GM, but (and it pains me to suggest this and I know they haven’t been playing great of late either but} there is a big blowhard who is GM for the Loafs who, as criticized as he is by the great unwashed on this site, is doing better than our lame duck G.M.

      • Habtastic says:

        Ok I’ll bite. The reason he’d make a bad GM is (and this is as much conjecture as it is for people thinking he’d make a good one) that he’s way too impulsive, has scatter brain opinions, hardly consistent in his evaluation of teams/players, has personal biases, is way too prone to the hype machine and says stupid shit like “the book is out on Huet”.

        The Drive for 25

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Ya, cause Huet had such an amazing career after he said that. He was so wrong.
          Right now he’s in the media and he see things as they are.
          I doubt he would make the same statements if he was GM of the Habs.
          But it’s cool. I get it. You don’t like him so he’d make a terrible GM.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • Mattyleg says:

            I’m not sure you understand that the dislike comes from a lack of respect that he manages to engender every time he opens his mouth. That doesn’t just appear from ‘disliking someone’. It comes from the man himself.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. Habsrule1 says:

    Add to the McGuire thing that he has interviewed for at least 2 GM positions in the last year or so. Sure, he didn’t get them, but even getting an interview means that he is respected in the league. There are very few people who qualify for interviews for such a high level position in the NHL.

    I really want to see what he would do the more I think about it. He’s been very hard on the Habs and isn’t that what you want from the GM? A feeling that nothing below a successful franchise should be acceptable.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  16. Habsolutely says:

    Happy New Years folks. I’m really hoping the Habs help me ring in the New Year tonight with a victory.

  17. onlychineseguy says:

    I did a little research and I find this quite interesting:

    Record of the Habs and Bruins (regular season) since Chara decapitated Max-Pac 3/8/2011:

    Habs: 21-24-8
    Bruins: 32-14-4

    And of course the Bruins won the Cup also. It pains me to say it, but the Chara hit just might be a blessing in disguise in the big picture: It’s the Hockey Gods way of telling us that the Habs will never win another Stanley Cup until there is a complete fundamental change in philosophy as to how to build a successful team to compete in today’s NHL. Just getting by with speed and skill doesn’t cut it anymore. Even the glorious Habs teams of the past had size and toughness to complement the skill players. Right now the Habs are one of easiest teams to play against, we do not have even a single element that an opponent would worry about when they play against us.

    Anyways good riddance to 2011. Hopefully 2012 will bring us a new General Manager and coaching staff that will restore the glory and pride in our team.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Moen and Emelin are two players that played with a little aggression agaisnt TB the other night but we could use someone a step up from Moen and another defensman like Emelin who goes a step further and fights when it is justified, or even when it’s not justified!

      Moen is a light-heavyweight and Emelin is a great hitter.

      We need a heavyweight forward and defenseman that don’t just take up space but also contribute. All the other teams have them, especially the good ones!

    • Habtastic says:

      we have tinordi coming in after a few years don’t we? Emelin is a wrecking ball. I don’t think the bruins are that much bigger except that we don’t have goons like Lucic (but no other teams do either). Max Pac and Cole are big fwds and I think it’s been pointed out that the most prolific bruins are not big bodys. The bruins have been winning because they are a cohesive unit with experience on defense and their top lines are fast as hell and actually convert using their skill. I posit that their success actually comes from speed and skill rather than brawn.

      We have no finish right now. That’s the biggest problem IMO. Oh and the injuries have hit us where it hurts. Their top line guys have been healthy and putting up points. You can’t just pick a Chara out of thin air. Again, in a couple of years we’ll have a mean blueline completely drafted by us and two great puck moving defenceman in Beaulieu and Subban. Gorges can shutdown any player and the last one, IF Markov is gone by then, we can figure it out.

      The Drive for 25

  18. Hobie Hansen says:


    ed lopaz
    December 31, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    quick story.

    my son was playing in a bantam tournament a few years back, and one of our star players (now playing in the Q) was completely intimidated to play against the team from Quebec City.

    he would jump on the ice, skate for 10 or 15 seconds in the neutral zone, and come right off.

    the Quebec team was tough and dirty.

    we were not able to push back – we were not able to “even things out”.

    sensing that he was a lame duck out there, that he was not “protected” and could be whacked at any time, this very talented player essentially took himself right out of the game as a non factor.

    we lost 6-0.

    this is an extreme example, and to Pleks, Cammy, Gionta, DD’s credit, they do battle as hard as they can because they are professionals.

    but any serious hockey team needs to have at least 3 or 4 players that can “push back”,

    and that is what allows the skilled guys to skate the way they do, with confidence in their stride, and with the certainty that they will be able to play their game.

    brad marchand plays his game because the Bruins are there to protect him.

    who is there to protect Subban??

    Subban is being run at 10 times a game – and its his awesome athletic ability that allows him to avoid the crazy hits.

    The game vs Ottawa, Plekanec was run at very badly by Chris Neil.

    Plekanec had the puck and skated with it behind the net and came out the other side.

    Neil came racing at Plekanec with everything he has and JUST MISSED taking him out.

    Plekanec skated off the ice shaking his head!!!

    What do you think Plekanec was thinking??

    • Mattyleg says:

      I reckon Plekanec was thinking that Neil was a thug that should have been awarded a charging penalty.

      That’s what I was thinking.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • piper says:

      I agree 100% with eds post. Trouble is the Canadiens organization fails to see it that way.

    • Habtastic says:

      So when you see Moen on a line with AK and Pleks, are you thinking, hmmm that line has a grinder that is slowing down the other two (although I love Moen) or are you wishing we had someone slower and less talented to “push back”. Ok, put the guy on a another line so set Neil straight (which line do you hamper?), cuz it’s so obvious Neil only plays dirty against us and never a team that has enforcers. We can have whoever we want in our lineup, it’s not going to stop the hitting. Personally I think watching DD is a great testament to how a small player can pwn huge guys. He’s built like a tank. Blunden can fight, can’t he? Moen too. It’s not like there will be no repercussions if someone hits Pleks, it’s that in this league, nobody cares. It’s the NHL…it’s different. Neil is not afraid to get into fights with most people. And again, having BGL did NOTHING for us. The biggest fighter. Nothing. Guys like Cole are the type we need. In case everyone missed, Sidney Crosby’s season is over, career in jeopardy. Pitt HAD enforcers during every one of his concussion-causing games.

      The Drive for 25

  19. SnowManHabs85 says:

    Morgan Ellis being traded could put some value in him stats wise. He’ll be playing with Bournival, probably will be good for their chemistry once they hit pro next season.

    “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

  20. piper says:

    I was just thinking, wouldn’t it be great if Molson sold the franchise to Balsillie. Jim could then fire the GM and move the team to a brand new rink in Hamilton. No more bilingual bull shit so he could hire the best man available. The Hamilton Habs would then be able to sign decent FAs at a fair price and probably be contenders in a couple of years. Don’t worry Montrealers, Jim can send you the Bulldogs to play at the Bell Centre.
    Just kidding….kind of.

  21. Eric37 says:

    Not sure I understand the media and fan momentum to anoint Carbonneau as the next head coach of Les Canadiens.

    After losing his job in Montreal, and despite all the coaching vacancies since then, Guy has yet to find another job in the NHL.

    In contrast, look at Claude Julien. Fired by the Habs, then picked up by New Jersey. Fired by the Devils, then hired in Boston. Now he’s a Stanley Cup champion and his Bruins are well on their way to winning another Cup (gasp).

    This tells me that the GM’s around the league are consistently unimpressed by Mr. Carbonneau. If he was such a great choice he’d have been scooped up by now.

    And to end on a couple positive notes:

    Two Montreal rookies (Diaz and Emelin) are showing some real promise. This should make it easier on all of us when they let Gorges go unceremoniously (Probably to the Bruins or Lightning, like Ryder, Pouliot, Bergeron, Moore, Pyatt, etc etc etc).

    And kudos to Cunneyworth for giving the right people the right ice time.

    Have a great New Years everyone!

    Just remember, the Montreal Canadiens losing and not making the playoffs this year isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We all know this team isn’t a Cup contender, so things might have to get ugly before they “get-good” once again.

    To quote the great Carey Price: “Chill out.”


    • Un Canadien errant says:

      The fact that he’s not working as a coach right now is a big red flag for me. I still think he should get an interview, but I wonder about that.

      I like the fact that Denis Gauthier, for example, is coaching in juniors right now, adding to his credentials. Guy should be reducing his TV appearances in favour of doing some coaching work.

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

  22. Strummer says:

    Just to change gears this is the 36th anniversary of the Habs/Soviet Red Army game.

    I was glued to the TV that night as it was a highly-anticipated match-up between the 2 top teams on the planet.

    We outshot the Reds by a wide margin but couldn’t beat Tretiak whose style I believe was emulated by a latter-day Hasek.

    Any way I was watching this morning as ESPN Classic was showing the game. I watched the first 2 periods because I knew the outcome.

    Habs were up 3-1 at the halfway point and settled for a 3-3 tie.

    Couldn’t hold the lead. Some things never change!

    This was probably the 2nd best squad the good guys iced after the 76-77 team.

    Cheers and Happy New Year

    “You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
    -as posted in amusement parks across North America

  23. Psycho29 says:

    HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!! May the Habs go on a 44 game win streak starting tonight!!!!

    PS: The outdoor Alumni game has been moved from 1pm to 3pm today…..

  24. JohnBellyful says:

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    Climb down from the bridge, get your head out of the oven – it’s electric, you idiot! – and hurry down to your doctor’s office to ask her about a radical new procedure that will put an end to your misery.
    Developed by the makers of SlumpBuster, MemoryDelete surgically removes all recollections of the Canadiens’ team history, including the glory years. Especially the glory years!
    Researchers have determined that Canadiens’ fans over the age of 25 have been in a prolonged state of depression since 1993, the last time the team won the Stanley Cup. The memory of that incredible championship drive – including 10 overtime victories! – has created expectations the club has been unable to fulfil, although it came close two years ago.
    But that appearance in the Eastern Conference Final only deepened the despair that now has Canadiens’ fans in a vise-like grip.
    The results are disturbing: a rise in sick days, reduced productivity on the job, internecine squabbling on fan websites, failed marriages, broken romances, and rampant impotence.
    Fantacy was the first to address this modern malaise with SlumpBuster, an under-the-counter medication that enabled users to enter a perpetual state of bliss. Critics and some legal authorities argued the drug rendered them unfit for human activity of any kind.
    Fantacy and its lawyers are vigorously disputing that allegation but to demonstrate its corporate heart is in the right place, the company has developed a surgical procedure that guarantees its patients will continue to be productive citizens. Simply put, MemoryDelete removes all data stored deep within the brain having to do with the Habs.
    Just those memories, and nothing more, unlike TML (Total Memory Loss), developed by a rival company for fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs (TML), which allows them to think their team has a chance to win the Cup every year but also renders them useless at home and at work. It also requires follow-up surgery once a week.
    Memory Delete includes the insertion of a micro-device – a spacemaker – that erases each new memory involving the Canadiens within 24 hours of its creation. What it doesn’t remove is the fans’ desire is to see the team win, so they can approach each game with a profound sense of hope and an enormous amount of positive energy.
    Should Montreal ever win the Cup again, it will blow their mind!
    For 24 hours.

    MemoryDelete – living the dream. One day at a time.

    • HardHabits says:

      Thanks for that. I was considering using MemoryClear (MC) which has been tailor made for Montreal Canadiens (MC) fans but decided to go for CleanHouse (CH) although the dosage is a bit strong. If I am in need of a real sense of renewal without the ill after effects I split a CH in half.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        All three are fine products but there is anecdotal evidence to suggest that over time they leave users vulnerable to sporadic bouts of déjà vu flu.

  25. jimmy shaker says:

    Bertrand Raymond has Budaj in the crease tonight! I like it!


    • Strummer says:


      “You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
      -as posted in amusement parks across North America

  26. habfan01 says:

    Dave Stubbs:
    Actually a 60 X40 ft barn is 100 times bigger then a hockey goal. 6×4=24 sq ft. 60×40=2400 sq ft.

  27. Mondou6 says:

    Happy New Year, everyone!

    And to prove I’m qualified to be coach of the Habs: Bonne annee, mes amis!

  28. LA Loyalist says:

    Another darn message from the Language Police. Dang, I’m going to change my phone #.

    In a nutshell, we are to refer to “Year of the Tank” as “L’Annee du Tanque” .

    And I don’t think they mean Tanqueray gin – though that may become the drink of choice should this flirtation with mediocrity – or worse – continue.

    Anyway, I have a positive suggestion for New Year’s Eve – win lose or draw en Florida – pull out your DVD of the legendary New Years’ Eve game between Habs and Russia.

    We can remind ourselves why we are here. And why here is here.

    Bon Annee and Happy New Year to each and every one of you, even the cranky ones (of which I am one, I guess). 🙂

    Go Habs!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Tank en français is still ‘un tank’. More accurately, it’s known as a ‘char d’assaut’.

      If you mean tank as a container, then it’s ‘une tank, ‘stie’, or, in proper French as opposed to joual, ‘un reservoir’.

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

  29. 24 Cups says:

    JT takes a look at the Habs as we move on to 2012.

  30. Ian Cobb says:

    I, like most here on HIO, and all media type anywhere have any idea who should be calling the shots, with both the present and the future in mind.
    We can debate all the fantasy we want to as to who should be our players, coach’s and who should be running the whole Canadiens organization as General Manager.

    The owners and the corporate board of governors are the only ones who know who what and when.

    Everyone on this HIO board wants the same thing. And that is, we want to enjoy each and every shift of every game that our great franchise plays. Of coarse we want to win every game, of coarse we want to go all the way to the cup finals every year. But the reality of it is the structure of the league has changed so very much over the last decade or more with parity being the number one goal of the league, it is no longer financially possible to retain talent enough to remain on top for more than a year or two. Every team that has won the cup, has been broken up the very next year or two.

    Our Montreal team management has tried to put a product on the ice, good enough to remain in the middle of the pack with high hopes of going as far as possible in the playoffs,in order to remain competitive for many years. The money flows better that way for longer. Newspapers, radio and seats are always full of past and new dreamers and hopes like all of ours. Just watch for all the changes and what happens to our team at the end of this season when we have to decide which kids or vets to sign and which ones will go to other clubs to excel because of the cap.

    So to further my point about who will and should be employed on or off the ice by the club, it is pure speculation and unknown to everyone because of all the ramifications involved in this new NHL.

    The one sure thing that we all on here do know, is the fact that the love and passion that we all have for the greatest sport franchise in the world will continue well into 2012 and beyond.

    So enjoy along with me, watching all the ups and downs and communicating with each other on this HIO of ours, until the day we all gather at the next parade. It will be so sweet!

    Until then, I wish all of you, my great HIO community and friends, the very best, and a HAPPY NEW YEAR……
    Love to all, from Ian

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Happy New Year to you Ian as well. I always thought my love for this team bordered on some sadistic issue on my part, but I do find comfort that they’re are others. Peace to all and may 2012 see a club other then the Bruins hoists the Stanley Cup.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Happy New Year, Ian.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Happy New Year Ian. Good article! I sense we both want the ‘identity’ if not ‘successes’ of the team to be returned.

      I am beginning to have fantasies about PET re-incarnating as the GM of the Canadiens. Say what you will, when he was running things, you had to step up and define yourself. You were Canadian! Period!

      That’s what we need. When our team takes to the ice there should be no doubt. These are the Canadiens!

      • LA Loyalist says:

        I trust you were joking. PET was the worst thing that ever happened to Canada and we have only just recovered.

        He was the Obama of his time, an un-mitigated socialista and train wreck.

        • The Jackal says:

          HAHAHAHAHA…. Oh wait YOU’RE not joking…

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Please. Mr. Obama is a man of substance, intelligence and grace who has brought credibility back to the office of the President of the United States. Pretending otherwise and trying to demonize him is dishonest. You may choose to vote against him (with the slate of Republican candidates, I actually dare you to do so), but be sane and afford him the credit he is due.

          How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

        • solomio says:

          What absolute nonsense.!!
          Right you are UCE.

          “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

    • mrhabby says:

      ian. have an excellent and healthy 2012.

      the beare family.

  31. habs001 says:

    No excuse that only 5 teams are worse than the habs…how ottawa is ahead of us is unbelievable since they have had many key players out of the lineup…combination of poor decisions by management and highly paid players way under performing has put this team in a disgracefull position after 38 games…how much worse would this team be even if don cherry was in charge lol..

  32. idle says:

    “For 90 enlightening minutes in mid-November, I sit with Canadiens coach Jacques Martin in his Brossard office for a feature profile”

    A question about this interview (or similar ones) that perhaps Stubbs or Boone or one of you could answer:

    How often would an in depth interview like that be requested of a coach and how often would it be accepted. In particular I am curious how often Martin was asked to open up and if he declined usually.

  33. habstrinifan says:

    Serious question… one line,first impression answer please.

    “Based on the team’s play AFTER the road trip and with real practice sessions under his belt… do you want Randy as head coach?”

    Please forget the language factor for now. I am just looking for gut reaction to the job he is perceived to be doing.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I want him to be given the rest of the season. He walked into the coaching position with more injuries than even JM had to deal with. He needs to be given time in order to be fairly evaluated.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      He will coach the rest of the season. Then there will be a complete overhaul in the organization. A long run in the playoffs might not matter.

    • ont fan says:

      I like him as well as anybody..if there is a GM change he will bring in his own’s the way it works

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Randy Cunneyworth is a fine individual and a good coach, but he is the interim head coach of the Canadiens because they fired Mr. Martin without a backup plan. He got the job by default. If there had been a head coaching opening this past summer he might not even have had an interview. We don’t need to lionize him or inflate his value, he is an effective replacement for the present. Next summer great changes will occur in the Canadiens’ management team, and we can’t expect that he will survive the purges.

      Often a head coach’s career hinges on fortuitous timing. Unless Mr. Cunneyworth turns around this team and brings it deep deep into the playoffs, he won’t be able to overcome the timing and circumstances of his hire.

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

    • solomio says:


      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  34. Mr_MacDougall says:

    @ HardHabits Tanking.

    I am not fully sure what you mean by Tanking, but I think there are some things we agree on.

    The Habs need to actively shop their current core of veteran players. All of: Cammi, Gionta, Gomez, Kaberle, Markov, and, to a lesser extent Plekanec; who all have multi-year contracts. (I left Cole off that list because he seems like a 2nd line keeper.

    The pending UFA’s on the team MUST be either signed (sooner than later) or traded. I am leaning towards the latter for Moen, Darche, Campoli, Gill. I’d like to see AK and Georges resigned, but only if that gets accomplished before the trade deadline, if not, trade them.

    I think the most value lies in AK and Georges at the deadline. Moen and Gill could be useful to a contender in need of depth and PK, but couldn’t get anything significant in return.

    The players Montreal has under contract seem like difficult moves to make.
    Gomez is not movable, IMO.
    Ditto Markov.
    Cammi could definitely land the Habs some value, maybe a prospect and a pick.. given his proven playoff track record, but he is having an off year. prospect and pick works for me.
    IMO that in order to move Gionta the team would have to take similar money back.. maybe even a worse player with one less year on their contract, also fine by me.
    Kaberle, tough one, I don’t mind him. Isn’t as overpaid as people say. Might be better off moving him in the following season.
    All of the above stated (players under muti-year contract) would be more easily moved next year.

    So, if by tanking you mean trading our veteran core, if and only if, the return is youth and picks while refusing all deals involving veteran players, I am with you. Also, if you think we should be trading our UFAs for picks rather than adding players in a desperate attempt to scrape into the post season, once again I am with you. Finally, If your wish is for the team to play with the players that are currently in the Habs system (Eller, DD, LL, MaxPac, Cole, PK, Diaz, Emelin, etc) and if a lottery pick comes great, if they surprise everybody, even better… I am with you on that too.

    • mrhabby says:

      typically teams at trade deadline only want players who’s contract ends on July 1. i would be surprised if any of the players with term would be gobbled up by other teams except for maybe Camms. i could see players like moen, gorges, ak being dealt.
      i just cannot see gomez being dealt or gionta..older with big term and money due.

    • HardHabits says:

      That is why I think it could take a while. Moving forward I think the Habs should build around Subban, Tinordi, Beaulieu and Emelin. How would McDonagh have looked added to that? *sigh*

      My thoughts are that on D it should be 3 puck movers with ample size like Beaulieu and Subban and three big stay at home bone crushers that can skate like Emelin and Tinordi. Of the current crop I prefer Diaz over even Markov, Kaberle, and Weber. Gorges if priced right makes a good 3rd pairing player but still needs a hulking bruiser to add some needed grit for his pairing to go with the heart he brings.

      I am very much opposed to the idea that a team can be built via free agency, and only think a team should dabble there if it is for an A-list superstar in his prime or a good deal utility player with some size to go with his speed, Cole being an example of the former. Teams that build through trades generally flip assets they drafted.

      As for the forwards. The Habs have no first line material in the pipes. IMHHO they are not going to land that type of player via free agency and they would have to gut the future to land one in a trade. The bottom line is the Habs need a franchise centre.

      People might think I hate the Habs by wanting them to stay outside the play-off picture and be patient with a good solid rebuild via the draft. Quite the contrary. I only use the term Tank™ because it makes for good HIO drama. It’s like creating a new definition for the term.

      As for the forwards, I’d like to see them build around Plex, Cole, Eller, DD, Pacioretty, Leblanc, Bournival, Gallagher, maybe AKost but certainly shed the big little three. Bottom line, Habs need a 1st line centre.

      If the Habs can bottom out one season and flip for some picks they can possibly move up as well as draft high with and stock the shelves with game breakers. It could be a quick turnaround where by 2015 they look like a powerhouse. Better than the perennial middle of the pack team fighting for the last play-off spot we’ve come to accept.

      Thanks for clarifying my thoughts on the matter. 😉

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        So we agree… for some reason the term Tanking, to me, means intentionally sabotaging a team for the specific purpose of high draft picks. That doesn’t fly with me.

        I agree that a Number 1 center is needed. He doesn’t need to have the size of Getzlaf, Thornton, or Malkin.. but needs to have a complete “Sakic/Yzerman type” intelligence and overall game impact (offense, defense, faceoffs, #1 powerplay).

        I do think it is possible to land impact players through free agency. Chicago recently added Hossa, who is a beast all-round. Brad Richards has it all for NYR. But, of the current top 50 NHL scorers, most are with the team that drafted/developed them.

        In order to sign a “mega-star” UFA the price will be extremely high, probably 3-4 years longer term than desirable, as well as 1-2 million more per season.

        UFA signings are most effective when used for the “pluggers” such as a 2nd or 3rd liner or a bottom 4 Dman.

        IMO if the Habs could get Shea Weber for a deal around 8 years at 60 million, I’d be ecstatic! Hefty price, but where else could you land such an impact player.. As for UFA forward signings.. either sign a can’t miss superstar at extreme money, stand pat, be patient and make an offer on the next one. Wait for Malkin to be UFA, sure, offer him the world.

    • ont fan says:

      Not a very good chance of moving any of those players..Habs over pay to get free agents to would be lucky to move even one

  35. SPATS says:

    Play the hand you’re dealt…

    The McGuire and Plekanec story reminds us yet again that we are still in training camp mode. Injuries, injuries and more injuries led to JM’s downfall and now Cunnneyworth is a lame duck because of ridiculous media pressure. Our youngsters are doing all that is asked of them and more. There are language barriers because hands are tied and big moves cannot be made with approx $19 million on the shelf. I for one, believe there is a big void in the room without Gio, Marky and Muller and like a leaderless pack of dogs, unnatural leaders are forced to emerge. Patience is wearing thin as the games tick away and the losses mount. Considering the challenge, I still think we’ll be close in the end. Others are also struggling so we cannot mope. Philly is a perfect example. HBO 24/7 shows their injury situation is as severe and their rookies are having to grow up quickly as well. The biggest difference? The coaching situation. Laviolette is top tier. Cunneyworth has the right stuff, but is missing some key pieces. Stay patient my friends, & stay positive!


    • LA Loyalist says:

      Let us not start creating a revisionista history that JM was undone by injuries.

      JM was undone by 3 things:

      1. trying to impose a system on players generally not suited to it.
      2. inability to adjust to the modern game
      3. unwillingness to recognize that physical toughness is still needed to support skill, and it is the judicious blending of the two, along with the blending of youthful energy and veteran experience that brings success.

      Were there injuries? Yes. But after seeing what the Pittsburgh coach accomplished sans Crosby and mostly sans Malkin, I don’t want to hear about it.

      Would Markov in form have made the team better? Of course, but that in a way is a blessing, because it would have disguised JM’s fatal short-comings and extended our pain even further.

      God bless us every one.

  36. HardHabits says:

    I just realized that Don Cherry is Canada’s version of Imelda Marcos.

  37. HabinBurlington says:

    If the Montreal Canadiens had a bi-lingual coach, is there any reason the GM would need to speak french?

    • WestHab says:

      Any combination that would allow either a non french speaking coach or GM would have the same effect on the Montreal media and political drips. I don’t agree with it but it is what it is.

      “Merci beaucoup.” Randy Cunnyworth

    • The Dude says:

      Is there any reason he wouldn’t take french lessons?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        No, thanks for pointing that out Dude, I meant to include that. My point is, I understand the need for the coach to speak french, however, for 2 key positions Coach and GM, we shouldn’t have to reduce the size of the talent pool to choose from in both instances. I would think any Anglo chosen to GM for Habs would be happy to learn some french.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I have fought off a few temptations to put the Habs on the back burner over the years because of dumb things that go on like this language debate.

      However, when you look at it, I think that the majority of the time the Canadiens make hockey moves first before worrying about the opinion of the French media and separatist politicians.

      They named Keane, Koivu and now Gionta as captains, as a small example.

      But if the Habs put a GM or Coach in there based on thier language and not their merit and those people don’t start making vast improvements, the voice of reason in me would be ultra pissed at the organization. To the point where I’d be tempted to tune out for a period of time.

    • ooder says:

      nope… this self imposed extra barrier the habs put on themselves is absurd.
      not only are the taxes the highest here, not only does the media scrutinize every players every action, not only do players get trashed here and can’t go out to buy groceries without people gawking on them
      now the habs decided to add another level of difficulties this whole french thing.
      this whole romantic idea of the habs being the heart of the city and whatever needs to stop. the habs are a business… that is all.
      The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

    • habstrinifan says:

      The GM for the Montreal Canadiens must the following:

      A) Speak and understand french fluently and with all the nuances of Quebecois . A Trudeau type bilinguist/b-iethnicity as opposed to a Chretien type.

      B) 100% aware and truly understanding of the FRENCH factor and how it is essential and be committed to significantly upgrading and preserving it in the culture/identity of the team. This includes the elan factor of hockey style. It may sound trite or pompous but the Leafs were known for a style of hockey and the Canadiens were known for another. Some attributed it to the French factor.

      C)Must be so confident and vindicated by his actions in regards to B above, that he can then build the team with the right balance of players/staff from all over Canada (the world) and publicly answer the true bigots, who clamour for FRENCH only.

      D)A gm who does that will be given the respect and trust to do whatever it takes.. even hire an English coach.

      So yes the GM must be French and preferably with roots in Quebec.
      He is the face of the team more than anyone. BUT he must also be GOOD! and willing to be BETTER!… and be perceived to be good. There are lots of candidates who are both.

      Wait! Did anyone try getting hold of PET?

  38. Neutral says:

    IMO Price lets in too many soft goals and that’s not good for a team that don’t score many – can’t see the Habs making the playoffs with some of the personnel they have right now – would like to see McGuire take over – get rid of the players whom doesn’t fit with this team and start rebuilding a winner – the path we’re on right now – a cup is a long way off.

  39. Chrisadiens says:

    The headlines down below are hilarious. You guys make this site worth coming back to. Thanks for that.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  40. Habsrule1 says:

    On the McGuire thing…I say give him a shot. Nobody knows more about the junior players than he does, and that’s what we want from a good GM….and least 50% of his knowledge should be on junior players. I think PM also knows tons about players in the league, both young and veterans. He would know who would best fill out voids. He has also been preaching the same things most fans on here have….size and toughness. He has also stated in the past his love for the team as he lived here for many years.
    What’s not to like?

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Hobie Hansen says:


    • WestHab says:

      First LaGuire needs to get a spot on L’antichambre.

      “Merci beaucoup.” Randy Cunnyworth

    • Strummer says:

      At least he’s not a beer salesman!

      “You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
      -as posted in amusement parks across North America

    • Mark C says:

      If it’s all about knowing junior players, let’s make Timmins or Frank Jay GM. They know about those players a whole lot more than McGuire.

    • mrhabby says:

      pm…does he understand the workings of a cap , cba.
      would he be taken seriously by other GM’s.
      does he understand the inner workings of hockey organizations in the 21 st century.
      can he judge talent..junior level , university level.

      just a few of my thoughts.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        mrhabby….I would assume the answer to those questions would all be yes, but I don’t really know for sure.
        Mark C….what makes you think those guys know more? I’d say they should but we know PM does because we hear him talk about them regularly.
        There’s no way to know for sure that he can do the job, but I think he has enough qualifications to give him a shot. We already know he would like more size and toughness and we’ve all wanted that for years.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • Mark C says:

          Ummm one guy is the amateur scout for Ontario and a cross-checker, and the other is the director of player development for a NHL team. These guys are watching and following these leagues and players all the time. When does PM have any time to watch these kids play? Between living in the states, and his job, I see no reason to believe he watches much junior hockey.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      The thing is how much of that knowledge reads more like a biography than a talent assessment.

      I can just see him going down the list of draft eligible players, “This guy ‘gets’ it, this guy ‘gets’ it, this guy doesn’t ‘get’ it, this guy ‘gets’ it, this guy likes chocolate chip cookies, he ‘gets’ it…”

    • J_P says:

      Pierre Mcguire has spent too much time bashing people on national TV, IMO. I dont see how any GM would ever want to deal with him. Also, I find he speaks way too often using hindsight as a means of making himself look smart. The guy also has a gigantic ego which I’m not a big fan of.

      There’s a reason he’s been rejected for every GM interview he has had in the last few years, and the habs giving him the GM job is a move that would reek of desperation. Let him leave the spotlight and cut his teeth in the shadows as an assistant GM for a few years to earn his stripes if he really wants the big job.

  41. HardHabits says:

    Should be two great games this day. By that I mean Finland versus the Czech Republic and Russia versus Sweden.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree with you HH, really look forward to watching them. Lots of Hockey to watch today!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Yes sir. This often is the best hockey I see all year and very few of folks in the US notice. Too bad for them as they don’t know what they are missing.

    • J_P says:

      The canada/USA game could go either way. If the Americans play for pride it could be a good game, or Canada could simply blow them out. The latter would be real nice!

      Either way, should be a great day for hockey.

      • HardHabits says:

        The US-Canada game is the wild card with nothing on the line but pride. The US played well against the Czechs, the difference being the goaltender had a Halakian performance. It could be a barn burner for sure.

        The other two games have the added drama as the results determine final standings.

        The IIHF really knows its hockey. I wish they ran the NHL.

  42. The Cat says:

    Boston does look good so far. St. Louis looks good also: lowest goals against in the west and tough to beat in regulation despite having less than stellar special teams.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  43. ed lopaz says:

    Dear Mr. Gauthier,

    You have been a successful hockey man these past 30 years. Never actually winning anything, but a success in cashing pay checks nonetheless.

    Now you have taken the necessary step to release Mr.Martin. A move that I, and any hockey player or fan who likes entertaining hockey appreciates.

    I would like to make a suggestion to help you rebuild the Hab lineup.

    Please take a few hours out of your busy schedule and

    WATCH a Wings vs Hawks game like I did last night.

    I promise it will be worth your time.

    You see, the Wings have been a franchise that is a real threat to win the Cup year after year, so they must be doing something right.

    And the Hawks, under the tremendous leadership of the Bowmans, have become one of the true elite teams in hockey as well.

    What struck me is not the Toews and Kanes and Datsyuks and Lindstroms, (although those are great to have!!),


    What struck me is the BALANCE – the balance of their lineups.

    Why is Jamal Mayers on the Hawks?

    Why is Todd Bertuzzi on the Wings?

    Becaue good GM’s understand that these “types” of players allow more talented scorers and skaters the “time and space” they need to do their thing.

    Do you know that the Hawks were playing Carcillo with Jonathan Toews? Why would they do that??

    (what space does Plekanec or Cammy or Gionta get??)

    Balance – some toughness, balanced with some skill

    We need a Carcillo or a Bertuzzi on the Habs – at least 1 probably 2.

    On defence, the Hawks play Sean Odonnell because he is 238 lbs and understands how to clear the front of the net.

    We need a Sean Odonnell on the Habs – at least 1 probably 2.

    Balance the toughness of Odonnell and Scott with the skill of Keith and Leddy. Of course, Seabrook gives them both skill and toughness.

    the Wings have Brad Stuart and Mike Commodore to bring some much needed toughness to their back end.

    this BALANCES the skill of Lindstrom and White.

    Our Goaltending is great – Price is better than anything the Wings or Hawks have, in my opinion.

    But we need 4 new players in our lineup.

    2 on defence – who are big, strong, tough, and stay at home d-men

    2 up front. – who are big, strong, tough, and ready to go to war every night for the team.

    those 4 guys should be acquired for no more than 10 million or so in salary – COMBINED.

    And as you pointed out when you acquired Kaberle – the Cap is not a problem for you, if you need some new bodies you can always find a way to fit them in under the cap.

    If we add those 4 guys we will need to drop 4.

    that’s your call, because I think you have plenty of guys on that list.

    its NOT ROCKET SCIENCE – so please get it done ASAP.

    The clock is ticking and if you don’t do it, we will find another GM who certainly will.

    Happy New Year Pierre!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Mr. Lopez,

      You understand the game of hockey and what’s wrong with the Canadiens!

      Thank you for your comment. I couldn’t have said it any better myself!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Great Post Ed! Bang On.

      • ed lopaz says:

        quick story.

        my son was playing in a bantam tournament a few years back, and one of our star players (now playing in the Q) was completely intimidated to play against the team from Quebec City.

        he would jump on the ice, skate for 10 or 15 seconds in the neutral zone, and come right off.

        the Quebec team was tough and dirty.

        we were not able to push back – we were not able to “even things out”.

        sensing that he was a lame duck out there, that he was not “protected” and could be whacked at any time, this very talented player essentially took himself right out of the game as a non factor.

        we lost 6-0.

        this is an extreme example, and to Pleks, Cammy, Gionta, DD’s credit, they do battle as hard as they can because they are professionals.

        but any serious hockey team needs to have at least 3 or 4 players that can “push back”,

        and that is what allows the skilled guys to skate the way they do, with confidence in their stride, and with the certainty that they will be able to play their game.

        brad marchand plays his game because the Bruins are there to protect him.

        who is there to protect Subban??

        Subban is being run at 10 times a game – and its his awesome athletic ability that allows him to avoid the crazy hits.

        The game vs Ottawa, Plekanec was run at very badly by Chris Neil.

        Plekanec had the puck and skated with it behind the net and came out the other side.

        Neil came racing at Plekanec with everything he has and JUST MISSED taking him out.

        Plekanec skated off the ice shaking his head!!!

        What do you think Plekanec was thinking??

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I agree Ed, JM historically does not like these physical players you and I speak of and even if PG had brought them in, JM wouldn’t have let them see the ice.

          I am hopeful that now with a different coach we see the coach willing to play these players and in turn PG should be doing everything to get these players.

        • ont fan says:

          Yes i think it is rocket science or wouldn’t 28 other teams just go out and do the same thing..the chemistry to all those things is what in Detroit or Chicago…..Boston happens to have it..Philly has had all the ingredients you talk of but can’t get over the hump..neither can the sharks

        • ont fan says:

          Yes i think it is rocket science or wouldn’t 28 other teams just go out and do the same thing..the chemistry to all those things is what in Detroit or Chicago…..Boston happens to have it..Philly has had all the ingredients you talk of but can’t get over the hump..neither can the sharks or Vancouver

    • The Cat says:

      Well said. I dont know if the habs are finally ready to commit to good even strength philosophy as opposed to winning games thanks to special teams.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • The Dude says:

      Dear Mr Gauthier,please become the G.M. of the Boston Bruins.IT’S THE FASTEST WAY I KNOW OF DESTROYING THAT FRANCHISE!

    • mrhabby says:

      he would press the delete button.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Post of the day. Thanks, Ed.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I agree that this is exactly what we require moving forward. Now that JM is gone, perhaps we have or will have a coach who will use big guys. So maybe the GM will get them.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Great post! Right on the money! Happy New Year! Let’s toast with some good STRONG stuff tonight!

  44. It’s not a good sign when we’re giving our leading point getter less ice time and complaining that he’s under performing, is it?

  45. HabFab says:

    After reading the posts below, I am again impressed with what a talented group we have here at HIO!!

    Wish this season’s edition of the Habs was at the same level…”sigh”

  46. HabinBurlington says:

    So we consider our franchise to be an elite organization with tremendous history. Yet some people want a TV Analyst to be our primary architect, I don’t understand.

    I will admit, I have a huge bias against Pierre McGuire because I have indeed heard speak out of both sides of his mouth within days on Toronto Radio then Montreal radio. As for the Scotty Bowman endorsement, Pierre has always praised Scotty to no end on the radio and on TV. Scotty had him in Pittsburgh for 1 year I believe as a scout which has since been called Asst. Coach despite every listing I find provides Asst. Coaches as Rick Kehoe, Rick Paterson and Barry Smith. Why in the nearly 20 years since in either Detroit or Chicago has Mr. Bowman not hired or advised Mgmt to give Mr. McGuire a position in the organization?

    I am willing to listen to solid reasoning, but aside from Bowman saying nice things about him in an interview where the lobbyist Mitch Melnyk is running the campaign for McGuire, I have neither seen or heard good solid reasons for McGuire to become the Habs version of Matt Millen. (NFL announcer turned Detroit Lion GM who mangled the Lions for years).

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The guy was an assistant, head coach and played the game…

      He’s a coach, turned analyst, who sees more hockey games than any person on the planet.

      He knows the rules, salary cap, junior players, international players, speaks to all the GMs on a regular basis and knows everything about the game since skates were invented.

      • SlovakHab says:

        yeah and other teams are just killing each other to hire him. We’ll be lucky to grab him, after all those years he worked for NHL organizations and all that success.


        • Hobie Hansen says:

          That can be said 100s of other hockey personalities. Why isn’t Marc Crawford working in the NHL right now?

          What was Pierre Gauthier’s extensive track record before becoming a GM?

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Crawford did get asked by Hockey Canada to run Spengler Cup team in Europe. He will be back in hockey within 1-2 years. He has not taken a 20 year sabbatical in “Analyzing Hockey” and memorizing towns like Foam Lake or Grassy Lake in order to appease an audience.

      • Mark C says:

        He has not been a coach/scout in 15 years! At this point, how much value does that experience have relative to all other qualified candidates?

        His one NHL head-coaching gig was an abject failure. His one year as an ECHL head coach, his team failed to make the playoffs.

        He never played in the NHL, so I don’t see how much value “he played the game” has.

        I roundly reject the notion that he watches more hockey than real working NHL execs.

        There are many viable candidates that know the rules, salary cap, junior and international players better than him.

        May be he would make a fine GM, I doubt it, but I am willing to concede it as a possibility. What I can’t understand is how these “pluses” for McGuire are not matched and more often surpassed by all other viable candidates.

        • mdp2011 says:

          please name a better canidate for the Habs job, and remember the Habs are in Quebec.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Well Stated Mark C. This notion of all the games he watches is a mute point. Every team in the league has scouts watching more games every year all over North America and Europe. There are many hopeful executives who are working their way up the ladder by staying in hockey as scouts, asst. coaches and head coaches at various levels all in an effort to earn their way to being a GM.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          He probably scouts more games, players and teams since he became an analyst that he had a chance to while in the NHL.

          I’ve said he is great for a long time and when Scotty Bowman agrees with me, I might listen to him over a couple posters like u guys, no offense!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            LOL, you and Scotty are tight now! Hobie, I always like your comments here, for now I will agree to disagree with you. Unfortunately neither of us have choice or say in the matter.

          • Mark C says:

            How is he scouting games when he’s busy doing his job (talking) and traveling to and from games? I just don’t see how we can glean anything more than a cursory level of scouting while doing color.

            No offense taken. I take what Bowman said with a gain of rock salt. With all due respect, to Bowman, what is he supposed to say in that setting about his friend and former minion? Of course Bowman said nice things.

            To me it isn’t about if McGuire could be a good GM, it’s more how is he the best choice. I’ve seen little evidence that he is a better option than the other names mentioned.

          • otter649 says:

            Brian Burke gave PM his only head coaching job in Hartford & since then Burke has gone on to different NHL teams (like Bowman) but has not hired Maguire despite Maguire pumping The Brian Burke Bear Hug Rule so there must be something going on – As Doug Mclean has said on a few occasions as per some players from Pittsburg PM is the best video coach they ever had & not much else. Also Maguire does not have any current “New NHL” front office experience since he has not had a NHL job since 1996(?) as if you check out any first time GMs hired in the past ten years all have/had current NHL experience & got promoted to a NHL GM…..

      • mrhabby says:

        how many teams have hired this guy….hmmm.

        • Strummer says:

          who says he was looking to be hired?

          how do you know he didn’t receive offers?

          how do you know he would be interested in The Habs or any other GM job?

          “You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
          -as posted in amusement parks across North America

      • J_P says:

        I actually find pierre mcguire has an extremely poor understanding of the salary cap, and economics. He seems to think that contracts arent a negotiation, and that he can sign any player he wants for way under market value. He also seems to think that you never have to overpay a player because you can always easily find a player to replace him. Basically, he is naive and lives in a fantasy world IMO.

        Im not saying he wouldnt be better than gauthier, but he definitely isnt a top notch candidate. I also think that on air ego has done a lot of damage to his reputation over the last few years. I dont see how rival GM’s would respect him.

    • mdp2011 says:

      if the choice is between someone that no other organisation is going to hire, i.e. Andre Savard, Julien Brisbois (lawyer with limited hockey experience), Damphouse, Roy, or god forbid another Rejean Houle, then my vote (not that i have one) would go to Pierre McGuire.

      • Mark C says:

        Julien BrisBois has about the same hockey experience as Peter Chiarelli had when Boston hired him.

        • mdp2011 says:

          Peter Chiarelli has been in hockey in some form since the mid 90’s, way more experience than Brisebois.

          • Mark C says:

            “Chiarelli came to the Bruins following seven seasons with the Ottawa Senators, five as their Director of Legal Relations and two as Assistant General Manager.”

            “BriseBois, 33, spent the previous nine seasons with the Canadiens after joining the organization on Sept. 1, 2001, as Director of Legal Affairs. In July 2003 he added Director of Hockey Operations to his duties before being named Vice President of Hockey Operations on July 24, 2006. On Aug. 23, 2007, BriseBois was named the general manager of Montreal’s top affiliate, the AHL Hamilton Bulldogs, making him the youngest currently in the league.”



      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Limited experience for Mr. Brisebois? Have you read his resume? He has extensive experience in a lot of facets of being an NHL GM, except for never having held the post. That can be seen as a negative, but also can be seen as he hasn’t done the job somewhere and failed yet.

        Depending on your definition, limited experience can be a good thing, it means he’s not a retread who flamed out with two or three different teams. I see nothing wrong with hiring a young bright man rather than a tired hack.

        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

    • mdp2011 says:

      as to the question to why nobody has hired him yet, with the well paying TV jobs he has had, it might that he has been very selective of where he wants to go?

  47. New says:

    I love how the some media are not adverse to acting as unsolicited third party intevenors for Mr Molson in his unknown search for a GM and coach. Since when exactly does the media and fanbase choose either? Now it is a campaign for Julien Brisbois who left to assist Yzerman. But Yzerman of course, the brains of the organization, can’t be considered. Geez…what a circus this franchise has become.

  48. gerrybell says:

    i was in the Winnepeg airport last night and a report on the news they run in the terminal reported a rumour that Campoli had been traded to the sharks but the habs were denying this. i cant seem to find anything on the net this morning about it….

  49. solomio says:

    Habs win tonight..easily. ( btw who’s in nets? )

    “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  50. habs001 says:

    We are 23rd in goals for and that stat is pretty well the same the previous 2 years..the difference is that in previous years we scored the key goals more than this year plus our g/a(13th) is not as good as last 2 years…our pp(27TH) and faceoff %(25th) is terrible…

  51. Barts says:

    Oh, oh that’s an easy one! Paper bags…*sigh*

  52. --Habs-- says:

    BTW – to change the subject — The way the count points at WJC is the way the should handle points in the NHL.
    Win – 3 points
    OT win – 2 points
    OT Shootout win – 1 point.
    A looser is a looser not matter how much you didn’t win.

    • SlovakHab says:

      yeah let’s get looser

      • SmartDog says:

        Who does he play for?

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • New says:

          Yan Looser, LW, 5’2″, age 25, Thames Bulldogs, Bacon on Toast, UK Tier IV, 12 games, 1 goals, 1 assists, 2 points, 24 PIM, -200, This from HMT (His Mom’s Twitter) “Fast, skilled, has a nose like a net, smells the crease, better than that Carmichel lad down the street, wicked shot, would do better at a higher level of competition where skates and ice were implemented.”

    • ABHabsfan says:

      I completely agree with that system of points, there is no reason why this should not be adopted IMO.
      While I’m here, how about this idea:
      Salary cap # refers to after-tax income. Then the “playing-field” would truely be level between teams attempting to sign FA. I realize this may open a bunch of loopholes in tax-reduction strategies and what-not but basically punch your $ into the tax-calculator and the bottom line is your cap-hit. It would be much more complicated for the bean counters but government ploicies should not be a deciding factor in pro-sports.
      Happy New Year all, safe and prosperous 2012

    • New says:

      I like the idea as well. Right now Chicago in 1st would have 76(52), W innipeg in 16th would have 59(41) and Mtl in never mind would have 49(35). I think it would open up the game a little. The way to move up the standings would be to take the three points in regulation and leave the competition with nothing.

    • HardHabits says:

      That would be too honest. The NHL prefers the illusion the current invisible point system creates, more teams look like they have winning records when in fact they have losing ones.

    • J_P says:

      I disagree. I think a regulation win should be 3, an OT/SO win should be 2, and an OT/SO loss should be 1. This way, there is always 3 points up for grabs, and theres extra incentive to win in regulation. Nothing worse than when two teams simply play to get to overtime in the last 5 minutes of regulation in a tied hockey game.

      Otherwise I am in favor of scrapping points completely and just going with W/L with no points awarded to the loser.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      If we must have OT loser points, they should be apportioned as:

      Win = 3 points
      OT win = 2 points
      OT loss= 1 point
      Loss= 0 point (but you get a ParticpAction participant badge)

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

  53. Hobie Hansen says:

    I just finished reading the article on Pierre McGuire and it further backs the strong opinion I’ve always for him. He’s a great man.

    It seems people on this site can’t handle the truth that the Canadiens have had a mediocre team going on a decade and a half and when McGuire points that out on television or the radio people go bananas and start calling him names.

    People say he tailors to what audience he’s preaching to and that also is a load of crap. I’ve lived in Montreal, Calgary, Toronto and now Ottawa and have heard him on the radio/television in all those markets and his opinion on certain teams/topics has always remained consistent.

    I’ve heard him go overboard on television like everyone else when describing plays or going off on a tangent about a person’s hockey background but if that’s his worst quality, give me a break.

    The guy is a great family man, thinks hockey every waking moment, was developed in part by Scotty Bowman and has a soft spot in his heart for the Habs.

    He’s bilingual and would take no s&^t from the fans and media in Montreal and would see his game plan through to the end. And that would include getting bigger, stronger and better! I really hope he replaces Pierre Gauthier.

    • Strummer says:

      People are unable to seperate his less- than- likeable broadcaster personna for his hockey knowledge and potential to be an effective GM.

      Personality is usually a non-factor in a GM’s success

      “You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
      -as posted in amusement parks across North America

    • Propwash says:

      The guy is a hockey analyst. People cite that he knows lots of guys in the league and he is well liked. That’s all fine and dandy when you’re a tv hockey analyst, but it means sfa when you’re a GM of a hockey team, because at that point, you are now the enemy. My money is on if he becomes the GM of the Montreal Canadiens, the team will not be vastly improved into a guaranteed Stanley Cup winner.

      Being negative has its advantages,
      you’re never disappointed.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I am scared to say what you did because people who disagree will call me names. Seems to be a “hot item” to some Habs fan. Truthfully, I don’t see how he could be worse.

    • mdp2011 says:

      I think he is a pompous, loudmouth, blowhard, but he really does know his hockey, he should be the Habs next GM. Also, for people that say he is a TV analyst, he is not, as Scotty Bowman said, he is a hockey guy who happens to be on TV.

    • New says:

      I think it might be that fans would expect McGuire to make moves, and he likely would. If he didn’t they would call for his head. If he did they would call for his head. (Look at Theodore, Huet, Halak, as examples of a dog with a bone syndrome)

      Fans and media are looking for change in the Canadiens 20 year plan to make money. They would politely cry for a Cup or three to be added to that plan. An entire generation of Canadiens fans has been born, nutured, and are starting their own families without ever seeing the team win anything. Just how long do the owners expect blind opening of the wallets to continue?

  54. RGM says:

    Buffalo’s Christian Ehrhoff will be out for weeks with an undisclosed upper body injury sustained after a fight with Troy Brouwer last night. The second-highest paid player in the NHL is lost to the team because of an utterly pointless scrap that had no bearing on anything in the hockey game. Stupid.

    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
    Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

    • solomio says:

      Not pointless. It must have meant something to Erhoff otherwise why bother?

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

      • RGM says:

        The two collided in the slot and then threw the mitts off. It was an absolutely unnecessary fight and now he’s going to miss significant time and hurt his team in the process. The limits of one’s ego need to be broadened so that they don’t do idiotic things like that. Ehrhoff had 2 fights in his NHL career going into this season. A guy making $10M is far too valuable (particularly when Myers is already injured) to be getting into fights with the Troy Brouwers of the world.

        GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
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        • Habfan10912 says:

          i agree with you completely. I am not totally adverse to fisticuffs in hockey but most are just plain stupid. In particular the two goons dropping them right after a faceoff. Hate it.

        • NCRhabsfan says:

          Perhaps Buffalo shouldn’t have to pay him for the period he is injured when the injury is sustained during a fight. That would put an end to fighting in the NHL faster than any rule change. They have rules like that for things like mountain climbing and snow-mobiling, why not fighting. Erhof wasn’t getting paid to be a tough guy.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            It’s not realistic to immerse a player in a swamp of goonery and thuggery where getting punched in the mouth or crosschecked in the neck is characterized as a ‘goalmouth scramble’ and ‘sending a message’, and where all the Buffalo players were castigated by a significant portion of the hockey press for not ‘defending’ Ryan Miller, and then expect that it will not affect his behaviour and cause frustration to the point where he believes the League will not provide him with a safe working environment and that he must create his own justice.

            If the Sabres are pissed off that they’re missing their highest-paid player due to a nonsense fight, they should ally themselves with the Forces of Light and get rid of fighting in hockey, not get mad at their player.

            How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?


  55. Hoegarden says:

    24, re the article on Brisebois;

    The gist of the article; Yzerman expects to lose Brisebsois when an offer comes Brisebois’s way.
    He and his family are very happy in TB. He will not necessarily jump at the first offer. Quote I am ready but in no hurry unquote.
    When asked about the Habs, he mentions the word “special”, in a positive way of course, and he still does not understand why some people would not want to come and play there.
    He also mentions the fact that it is no coincidence that he, Boucher and Yzerman are young and open to new ideas. He is in a completely different environment (different budget and in a place where hockey is not so important).
    He is mostly concerned with next year at the moment, where he will have to deal with the new realignment. He feels both Fla teams are being penalized with it.

    • Mark C says:

      BriseBois seems like a much better option than someone like McGuire. If there are concerns about BriseBois’ overall hockey knowledge, it should be noted that he has almost the identical hockey background as Peter Chiarelli, in terms of jobs and positions held.

    • otter649 says:

      But The Fla teams don’t mind when the eastern teams come to their rinks & create sell outs like Montreal is doing this week…..

  56. 24 Cups says:

    Here’s an interesting stat. Gabriel Landeskog leads all NHL rookies with 100 hits. In 2nd place is Alexei Emelin with 98.

  57. habs001 says:

    Plus minus stats may not be a true indicator of play but our worst and best +/-

    plecks -9 gill -8 nokia -7 emelin -7

    gorges +6 dd + 2 cole +2 eller +1

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      I have been very closely watching Emelin and he´s been very unlucky with his +/- in quite a few games. In the last two for example: He was on the ice for the first Ottawa goal, clearly a mistake by Gill. Then he left the ice one or two seconds before Subban scored and in Tampa he was on the ice for the Lightning´s second goal which a) should not have counted b) and if it counts it´s Carey´s fault. So just in these two games his +/- could have easily improved to -4…

      Gorges decent +/- on the other hand really reflects his game I think.

      • habs001 says:

        true ..some cases it is a good indicator and in others it is not…

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          I think over a period of 5+ years the +/- is a decent indicator. Of course you have to take the overall quality of the team into consideration but over one season or less the +/- can be misleading. Saku Koivu for example has been a + player for most seasons, in his second worst he was -8, in his worst he was a -21…

      • Malreg says:

        True, but over the course of 82 games, those instances will balance out with ones where he just steps onto the ice and team scores, for example.

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          I don´t believe that. Over the course of a 15 year career maybe but in one season a lot of things can go against you.

          I also have to laugh in general about people talking about different things balancing out over the course of a season. Bad ref decision, luck, and so forth. Everything is supposed to be even at the end of the season. I don´t buy that at all and there´s absolutely no proof for that.

          I am also curious btw how little talk here is about luck. Why do people (including the Gazette writers) almost never mention luck? Luck is a big factor in hockey and I think the Habs have been very unlucky in a lot of games this season.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Love Damien Cox. He’s bang on in this column, as usual.

      I love how the pro-thug lobby is encouraging a return to hook and grab hockey to make it safer. Of course, these tactics fall right in the wheelhouse of the Colton Orrs and John Scotts, and give all goons and talentless checkers a competitive advantage over soft Sedins and Kanes. Ridiculous.

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

  58. slychard says:

    2012 is here bringing the end of the Mayan calendar, remember… shoot zombies in the head. Happy new year HIOers!

  59. Habsolutely says:

    My first hab game of the season, can’t wait. See if you guys can spot me on TV, I’ll be the guy in a habs jersey and hat yelling go habs go.

  60. RGM says:

    It is interesting to see how frequent Julien BriseBois’ name has come up in recent days. The drumbeat for change in the Habs’ front office is clearly growing in momentum – now that the coach has been run out of town and the Habs are continuing to flounder, the attention has been turned to Gauthier. There’s really nobody left for him to fire, and I’d imagine that Molson has a close eye on any major personnel moves, so he’s in a real bind right now.

    A topic that has come up of late is the tank vs. “any mean necessary” to make the playoffs discussion. Let’s say by some miracle the Habs get on a hot streak and go ahead and win 8-9 of their 11 games in January, and continue at an above-.500 clip in the first two weeks of February. The trade deadline this year is February 27th. Say that at that stage, with the momentum and hot streak, they’re only able to get to 7th place, close to 6th, but no chance of catching Boston for the division. Should the Habs be buyers at that stage, or stay the course and look at dealing away some of the impending UFA’s to Western teams, and hope for the best the rest of the way with a younger squad?
    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
    Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Sellers, they should be sellers, regardless of what happens between now and 27 Feb. The ceiling for this team as constructed is bottom tier playoff/non-playoff level.

  61. 24 Cups says:

    The article on Julien BriseBois will not translate with Live Search.

    Coud someone please summarize what the article is saying about BriseBois as a possible GM for Montreal.

    In a perfect world, Vancouver stumbles again this year and Alain Vigneault gets fired. That would allow the Habs to bring in a BriseBois/Vigneault tandum as a long term solution to the team’s problems.

  62. SlovakHab says:

    Happy new one from Sydney where we’re already in 2012. Last year’s edition of Habs sucked kangaroo balls as per usual, since circa 1993. However I wish every single member of HIO all the best in personal and professional life. We may support a dismal hockey team but we do it with passion and many of you havespent lots of money to make Molson, Gomez, Martin, Gautier etc millionaires without doing a better job than a blind surgeon. All the best in the new year – live with passion, love the life you live. Cheers guys!

    • JohnBellyful says:

      You’re already in 2012? Who won tonight/last night?

      • SlovakHab says:

        Florida. But the Habs played well – lead 7-1 late in the third, until an ex-Hab farm hand and a player who was rumoured to land in Montreal scored a hattrick each & turned around the score. Theodore turned aside all 21 shots in the final minute. We’ll make the playoffs, just need to play .700 hockey for the remainder of the season. We’ll be fine.

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Hmmm, doesn’t sound like it’s worth taping.
          Seven goals, you say? Maybe this team has turned it around.

          • SlovakHab says:

            They did, just need the bounces go their way. Gomez picked up 1 assist and reached 5 for the season. Gill and Price scored 2 each, Diaz had 5 assists. Cole scored off his ass and Subban had 7 wind-ups – all missed the net. Emelin crushed Versteeg but was benched because he was too physical. Business as usual.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Can’t help but notice that Andrei Kostitsyn is invisible in your writeup.

            How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?


    • solomio says:

      kangaroo balls…….

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  63. steve17 says:

    I have just read Stu Cowans article on Pierre McGuire. My take is that depending on which radio station you are listening to, Pierre says all the right things. He does seem to know a lot about the players, but would that translate into being a very good GM?

    In the article, Pierre says that Cunneyworth can turn things around if given a chance! Would Pierre give him that chance if he was named GM? Could he given the media call after Cunneyworth was promoted, even if it was interim? Would he have the Habs play an up tempo aggressive game? Could he hold is own and more against the more experienced GM’s?

    I say that he can’t be worse than Houle was and if he would have a clean slate and Molson moved out Gainey and Gauthier, then McGuire may have a chance. Since Bowman endorsed him, maybe he would resign from Chicago and hire on as an advisor to Pierre McGuire.

    So far I like what Cunneyworth has done, his lines make more sense and if he leaves them together to build chemistry, they may pay dividends down the road.They are more agressive and that is working out better and is more fun to watch. I hope it works out for Cunneyworth and he is given a chance to keep the job!


  64. Habsbill24 says:

    Nice video of the 2011-12 Habs, if only it were true. What I have seen is a stumbling, bumbling mess that has about 20M of cap salaries not playing, a front office that doesn’t understand class or culture, and a 13th place team that has to climb over five teams just to squeeze into the playoffs. We, the fans, dream of a 25th Cup after 19 years but what we have is this nightmare.

  65. JohnBellyful says:

    Father Time 2011: Hiya, kid. Welcome to the circus, or cirque de silly, as the locals call it.
    Baby New Year 2012: Goo goo wah wah.
    2011: I don’t whether you’re talking French or English, snookums, but you’d better learn both in a hurry. Those baby blues won’t keep them pacified around here for long. Speakin’ of which, where’s your pacifier? Didja bring one with you? They’re lookin’ for a goon to keep the peace, ya know.
    2012: Wah wah goo goo.
    2011: I’ll take that as a no. Too bad. The crowd won’t like that. Don’t be surprised if you hear a few boos when you crawl through the door.
    Piece of advice for ya, Two-Twelve, don’t let the job wear ya down. (And why they keep giving babes in the woods this assignment I’ll never understand.)
    Look at me, a week after I arrive, Montreal plays its 3,000th game and defeats Boston 3-2 in overtime. I’m sittin’ on top of the world, I’m in the high chair.
    Unfortunately Pacioretty pushes Chara in the back after his game-winning goal. Two months later Chara rams Patches into a stanchion as a payback, knocking him out for the season, and with it, the team’s chances of going deep into the playoffs.
    Suddenly I feel old and tired. And it’s only got worse. The last six months have been rough, I’ll tell ya. It’s a shame your number came up.
    2012: Whaaaaaaah.
    2011: Awww, don’t start cryin’ on me. I got enough of that each day on HIO. Didn’t you bring a bottle? No? Too bad, bambino. I got one but I’d get arrested if I gave you a swig. Besides, it’s almost drained. It’s been a lonnnnnnnnng year.
    Well, son, the clock’s struck 12, and the job’s all yours. Here’s the hourglass – as you can see, time’s running out on the Canadiens – and here’s the scythe. Mind your fingers.
    2012: Waah?
    2011: Yeah, it’s a scythe. Used for cutting staff and making player cuts. Nasty business. I don’t know why the Habs don’t buy their own. Bunch of CHeapskates, if you ask me.
    Anyways, half-pint, I’m outta here. Good luck.
    [Sniff, sniff] You gotta be kiddin’. Well, the Canadiens can clean up the mess this Time.
    Hey, PG!

    • G-Man says:

      Happy New Year, JB! Funny and heart-rending as usual! 😀

    • habstrinifan says:

      John, this is absolutely brilliant. I had resolved to stop using the word absolutely but what the heck.

      Excellent Excellent John.

      I agree with G-M below. It is un-expectedly heart rendering as you read on.

      God-d..n Man! You made me cry and they havent even started singing Auld-Lang-Syne around here yet.

      I cried for the baby 2012. I cried for the old man 2011. While at it I even cried for Cunneyworth. Even shed a tear for Budaj, Bujad, whatever.

      No tears for Markov, Gomez, PG, BG, Gionta, JM, Pearn, Campoli… I dont cry when I am angry.

      This was an exceptional one. An evocative melodrama of the HABS journey thru 2011 and the fears of 2012. I saw Oliver yesterday at the NAC(Ottawa). I was more moved by this. If you plan on taking it to the stage… word of warning stay away from the production group at the NAC. If you think JM can suck the life out of good material …. well I better not go there.

      Apologise for the long response John, but this was so impressive. Hope everyone reads and enjoys it.

      I shall drink a dram of good Jameson whisky to you laddy, wish you a Happy New Year and look forward to more of your posts in 2012.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      Great way to end the year, thanks JB

  66. 24 Cups says:

    Shoutout to Mike Boone:

    Mike – I think everyone appreciates you putting in some overtime by doing the live blog on New Year’s Eve. With that in mind, why don’t you skip the “About Last Night” segment this one time so you can start your partying right after the game. I think posters would understand.

  67. G-Man says:

    A shout out to Rabbie Burns:

    Auld Line Change

    Should auld linemate be forgot,
    And never brought to mind?
    Should auld linemate be forgot,
    And days o’ line change!

    For auld line change, my dear
    For auld line change,
    We’ll win that cup o’ Stanley yet
    For auld line change!

    We fans have been pulled out our seats great,
    And cheered les boys fine,
    But we’ve watched many poor efforts of late
    And have drunk too much whine.

    We fans have paid ticket prices great
    And sipped ten buck beer,
    But lately The Habs suffer a grim fate
    That began in September this year.
    But there’s a light, my auld friends,
    And you can use it to save yourselv(es),
    This road is filled with nought but dead ends
    But yon is Draft Day 2012.

    Now surely we’ll meet again,
    Perhaps on this very range(e)
    And we’ll be seeing Stanley yet
    For auld line change!

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    Here is my little Year end contest for Hockey I/O.

    Winner, judged by me, gets two free tickets to a Canadiens playoff game in 2012.

    The contest:

    Make up a headline that is less likely to make you click on the link than:

    “Red Fisher on the excellence of the Bruins”

  69. SKHab says:

    Best wishes for the new year to everyone here. Hopefully the Habs give us something to celebrate!

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