Pacioretty, Bourque will be in lineup against Capitals

The Canadiens held an optional morning skate Tuesday in Brossard as they prepared to face Alex Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals Tuesday night at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

The only players who didn’t skate were Brian Gionta, Tomas Plekanec, Michael Ryder, Travis Moen and Francis Bouillon.

Max Pacioretty, who left Monday’s practice early with a lower-body injury, did skate Tuesday morning and will play against the Capitals. Rene Bourque, who has missed the last 21 games with a concussion, also took part in the morning skate and will face the Capitals.

Coach Michel Therrien told reporters in Brossard: “Rene Bourque is playing tonight. Great news for our team!”

Carey Price will make his 32nd start of the season in goal.

Ovechkin was named the NHL’s first star of the week on Monday after scoring seven goals and adding two assists during Washington’s four-game winning streak last week. Ovechkin is tied with Tampa Bay’s Steven Stamkos for first in the league with 25 goals, and ranks sixth in NHL scoring with 43 points.

Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun tweeted some interesting stats concerning Ovechkin:

“Some Ovechkin perspective: Only 4 of his 25 goals have been scored against teams currently in playoff spots. 14 scored vs weak SE division.”

“Alex Overchkin’s stats vs. playoff teams this year: 15 games played, 4 goals scored, 6 assists.”

After a slow start to the season, rookie Capitals coach Adam Oates moved Ovechkin from left wing to ring wing and he has scored 16 goals in his last 14 games.

 “He never met me before,” Oates told The Associated Press. “And I totally respect who he is, and what he’s accomplished. And when you suggest something like that (changing wings), it has to be a meeting of the minds and private conversations, and he had to trust me. It takes a little time, and obviously I hope he does now. We’re going in the right direction.”

Said Ovechkin:  “It’s trust. That’s what I didn’t have last year. When you have that kind of feelings you just want to go out there, play for your team for your coach and do your best out there.”

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

Game Preview: Canadiens vs. Capitals, canadiens.com

Caps pay first visit to Montreal, washingtoncapitals.com

Habs juggle lineup as a result of Emelin’s injury, by Pat Hickey

Therrien has earned Adams nod for leading Habs, nhl.com

Ovechkin named NHL’s first star of week, by The Canadian Press

Caps hurting, but confident, by washingtonpost.com

Crosby feels better, but still out indefinitely, by The Associated Press

Paul Henderson receives Order of Canada in Hockey, but still isn’t in Hall of Fame, by Stu Cowan

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  2. jackbutt says:

    Just want to know why people talk about baseball on a hockey blog.

  3. Newf_Habster says:

    Had the draft been held today, the Habs would have three picks in top 37. I am hoping that the Predators are tanking so we can have them in top 33. :)

  4. Luke says:

    I’m gonna go to the main page now and hit refresh repeatedly until the new post updates so I can type ‘first’.

    and then I’ll be all like: Ha, you guys suck!

  5. gilgamesh says:

    Going to the game tonight. Looking forward to seeing Ovechkin make some amazing plays, and then get shut down by our defence / Price. Kind of worries me that he seems to be on fire as of late.

  6. Loonie says:

    Regarding the draft. It’s difficult to rank prospects but some find it easy to project the order in which the top guys will be drafted.

    Say Colorado gets the first overall pick. They already have Duchene and Landeskog. So it might be logical to take a defenseman. But they also have had great success over the years in developing defensemen. So they may not feel that they need to take one just because they have two potential franchise players in Duchene and Landeskog.

    What if it’s Florida? With Huberdeau and Gudbransson it’s likely that they go with the top player in their board.

    Every team is different is my point here. Florida doesn’t necessarily need anything specific, Calgary needs everything and Colorado has depth in some areas and weaknesses in others.

    Projecting the best player today is silly too. Today doesn’t matter when it comes to the draft, and funny enough, you can’t draft based on what you’ll need tomorrow, because what you’re drafting may not work out how you’d like.

    Edit: The scenario most applicable to us would have been if we were drafting at #2 instead of #3. Timmins would have taken Galchenyuk ahead of a supposedly pro ready Murray because of what Galchenyuk is AND what he believes he’ll become. Not just one of those.

  7. Timo says:

    What time does Boone wake up on a game day? I need a new thread.

    • The Jackal says:

      Yeah…. too much talk about drafting and prospects and D vs. F… It all comes down to opinion anyway.
      Let’s talk HABS!

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    • byrneoNL says:

      The nurses usually wheel him down to the recreation area around 6pm. He then has to jockey for position around the tv, and trade his drugs for the remote.

      • Bripro says:

        Don’t forget that he goes for the “Early Bird Special” at the geriatric restaurant around 3:30.
        If he goes for seconds, he’ll be late.

    • Storman says:

      Sounds like a Huey Lewis song I wanna new drug, I wanna new thread

      What time does Boone wake up on a game day?cause I need a new thread
      One that wont make me nervous wondering what to do
      A new thread that Boone writes while he goes poo, while he goes poo
      One that wont make me nervous wondering what to do
      One that makes me feel like posting after i to go poo after i go poo

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Okay Timo big thanks, your question produced answers that have me laughing harder than I have in a long time.

      Cheers to You, Byrne/Bri and Storman for that!

  8. Storman says:

    From earlier posts concerning league awards, I could care less, although i guess they provide some interest for debate and historians. When and if we,, as in Habs players potentially win them they only end up becoming bargaining chips at the time of negotiating new contracts, winning is the only thing.. Also i would be more interested to see who the Canadiens players vote as their MVP, etc. as opposed to media driven awards..

  9. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …what other NHL team has a quartet of offensive defencemen like We in PK, Markov, Diaz and (potentially) Beaulieu ?

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    • krob1000 says:

      None…and they are a big reason the forwards are doing as well as they are too. Anyone who has played forward in any hockey knows the difference between having dmen who make plays in your own end and the neutral zone instead of guys who bang it up the boards. Also guys who can get pucks to you moving is imperative…there is nothing worse than always getting the pcuk standing still. Having a guy like Markov who has his mind made up before the other team even knows he has the puck AND having PK who eludes forechecks buys time and then makes plays is paramount to a good offensive game.

      Montreal’s dmen play a puck possession game which allows the forwards too as well. Puck possession without capable D is a disaster waiting to happen. Our forwards and team in general are incredible at supproting one another and really the intellect of the team is elite when you watch them play vs other teams. They are always supporting the puck carrier and he always has two options. I love the style the team is playing….and much of it goes to the d…and of course the 3 line depth…but that is again linked tot he D. Having two numer 1 dmen is quite the luxury.

  10. christophor says:

    I think people are underestimating how much Ryder will be asking for.

    He got a 3 year, 3.5mill/per contract after these seasons in Boston:

    08/09: 74GP 27G 26A 53P
    09/10: 82GP 18G 15A 33P
    10/11: 79GP 18G 23A 41P

    His new contract will be based on the last two seasons:

    11/12: 82GP 35G 27A 62P
    12/13 (so far): 37GP 16G 16A 32P

    I’m guessing he’ll be asking for a 3 year, 15mill contract, and someone will probably give him at least a 3 year, 13.5mill contract.

  11. HabinNorth says:

    There is a recurring theme that MB did not do enough at trade deadline. That comment shows a lack of understanding. The trade deadline is traditionally the time for last minute shopping with inflated prices.

    Well ahead of everyone including the genius Shero, MB pickup up a low risk guy with no future commitment and a third round draft choice for a underperforming and unhappy asset. This was done early and the evidence is the deal that was gotten. Acquiring Ryder in midseason at this point is the NHL trade of the year without considering contract and the draft choice obtained.

    MB then addressed a need for a strong face off man and picked up Jeff Helperin for nothing. Since his pick up the fourth line and the PK have improved.

    Then for a fifth round pick MB got Drewiske as a depth d man.

    All of these guys are playing so 1/6 of the starting lineup has been altered.

    In addition, MB auditioned 3 young D men who although are raw, did not look out of place as the 6th D man. In addtion, a veteran Kaberle is available should he chose to use him and the returns of Diaz a top 4 d man and Bourque a top 6 forward only strenghen the team.

    I would argue that MB did at least as much as Shero without a net loss to the roster and opened up 4.5 mil on next years salary cap.

    That is quite an achievement.

  12. habs001 says:

    Most cup winners had at least one elite d in their lineup or a d man that had an elite season that year…

  13. Mavid says:

    I am thinking you all better start saving now if we play Ottawa and we lose or the Sh!t starts I may need a rather large bail out..just a heads up…

  14. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …the more the loss of Emelin sinks in, the more I think ouch

    …Emelin kept the opposition’s heads up and a step more cautious in Our zone anticipating absorbing big hits, which gave Our speed an advantage …that will be very much missed, especially in the playoffs

    …Guys like Bourque, Paches, Boullion, Moen, and White are going to need to raise Their hit-rates and intensity a tick to compensate

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  15. Propwash says:

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/sports/nhl/story/2013/04/09/sp-nhl-jean-sebastien-giguere-colorado-avalanche.html

    So, Giguere calls out his teammates… let’s see how well they’re gonna play in front of him now…

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  16. Loonie says:

    No Erat or Ward tonight for the Caps.

  17. twilighthours says:

    Ovechkin is such a beauty. Good for him that he’s turned it around. Hope he sucks tonight though.

  18. Bripro says:

    My totally unbiased trophy selections for this year, in no particular order:

    Jack Adams – Michel Therrien
    Vezina – Price (since only one goaltender can be selected)
    Bill Masterton – André Markov
    Hart Memorial – PK Subban
    Norris – PK Subban
    Calder – Brendan Gallagher
    Selke – Thomas Plekanec
    Bridgstone Messier – Brandon Prust
    NHL Foundation – Saku Koivu
    GM of the year – Marc Bergevin

    If these are not handed out as I’ve detailed them, then there’s no justice in this hockey world.

  19. Sportfan says:

    It’ll be great to see Bourque in our line-up tonight!

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  20. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …that is the sweet n sour of having a fun season like We have this year

    …We have tasted now the sweet fruit of losing in the NHL …if We had not finished at the bottom, no Galchenyuk-like charisma, talent and excitement to savor as Fans …so hungry after so many years of cheap dog food

    …like the mutt with a bone in his mouth crossing a bridge, he looks in the water below to see his reflection …that bone in the river below seems so much bigger than the bone in his mouth

    …some Habs Fans are mutts ? :)

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  21. Seps says:

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534957_450890575002897_2009035717_n.jpg

    Funny link, pretty true too. I feel our no excuses mentality will lift us over the B’s in a playoff series.

  22. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Hopefully Beaulieau can step in and have a similar impact that PK did when he got the call up. Really need him to be solid for us.

    Think the key for Bourque tonight is a yeoman’s effort. Get a few hits in, get back up to speed and just enjoy being in a game again. The stigma on him in Calgary was he didn’t compete some nights. Haven’t seen that this season, hope he gets right back into that good work ethic and doesn’t take easing back into the lineup as a slight. Play the right way, and the way he can, and MT will have no choice but put him in the top 9

  23. adamkennelly says:

    I’m making a trip to MTL (from KC) for 2 home playoff games – 1 at the Bell and the other at the bar….I ask anyone who is not as lazy as me and who may have done some research- do we know when our first two home playoff games are likely going to be? I realize nothing is certain but any insight would be appreciated.

    thanks.

  24. krob1000 says:

    Commandant re your post below…interesting take but that just means dmen take longer to develop and are harder to evaluate IMO. I would not use that as a rule for passing up the best player. The fac tthat JOnes is already as skilled as he is and has his size and pedigree I can’t follow that philosophy. I am sure if you went back and the gm’s could redraft those ones you speak of where dmen gems were found later on they would jump all over the stud dmen right away.
    Pucks don’t get to forwards anymore unless the dmen are great puck movers….look at the Lidstrom effect and to make it more realistic look at the Markov effect. These guys have that impact as puck movers …a guy like Jones has that ability and skill potential…AND can also have the Pronger/Chara/Blake effect.

    This is a bumper crop draft early on….but I still take Jones. The Claude Giroux/Marty St Louis comparisions are probably pretty accurate…and as far as induvdual accolades go a forward may get more glory but all great teams are great on the back end.
    Hockey starts from the net out….a great d can insulate a goalie but a weak d cannot be covered by even a superstar goalie and great forwards.
    Forwards play less, are typically more fragile as their minutes are often harder. Forwards can be compensated for much easier…you have 4 lines of forwards and only 3 sets of D….when you have one of those guys who eats so many minutes it means you can have a weaker 5th and 6th dman and in a cap world that is huge. Top forwards can be linematched with top d men ….no coach says …ok they got Chara out…let’s put out Crosby…they say Chara is off the ice…throw Sid on quick!

    • Loonie says:

      Los Angeles, Boston and Chicago have something in common, and it isn’t that they have an elite forward.

      ;)

      • HabinBurlington says:

        So once PK wins Norris, we get Cup?

        • krob1000 says:

          Since he has got to Norris discussion we have coincidentally or not now gotten into Cup discussion.

        • Loonie says:

          When he’s in that company our chances of winning the Cup improve dramatically in my opinion.

          When you have a defenseman who is elite and can be on the ice for half of the game as Krob says, you’re golden.

          Further to that point, if you look at the standings right now there’s only one or two teams who aren’t in the playoffs who have an elite defenseman. But there are plenty who have elite forwards.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        What is “These aren’t their state’s capital city,” Alex?

        “May you live in interesting times.”

      • commandant says:

        And only one of those 3 took that Norris Caliber defenceman with a top 5 pick.

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        • Loonie says:

          Some people prefer Seth Jones to Jonathan Drouin.

          Nobody disagreed with your philosophy.

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …I believe Seth Jones will be too good to pass up Ben

        • krob1000 says:

          If you redid the 02 draft it would be a toss up between Keith and Nash for 1st (one wears a cup, the other does too but also wears a cup ring). The 96 draft Chara would be the number 1 followed by BRiere and then nobody of even star status.

          • commandant says:

            Sure. And who is to say that when we re-do the 2013 draft 10 years from now… some second round defenceman (or later) won’t be Jones’ equivalent or better?

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          • Loonie says:

            Who’s to say a forward won’t emerge from that group?

            You’re being short sighted Ben. Have a look at Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Benn and others.

          • commandant says:

            Its not impossible, but it is more unlikely with forwards than D. The list of Norris winners and even contenders taken late is much longer than the same list of equivalent forwards.

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    • commandant says:

      I’m not saying that Jones will not become elite. Infact I think he will.

      But here is the thing…. Historically speaking, it is possible to find a replacement for Jones, and a true number 1 defenceman with a later round pick. It is much, much harder to find that elite forward with the late round pick.

      The very guy you reference, Zdeno Chara, was a project pulled out of the third round. Shea Weber was a second rounder. The Norris history is filled with these guys. The lists of elite forwards, not so much.

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      • Loonie says:

        This point actually means(imo) that elite forwards are easier to find. Just because you “can” find an elite defenseman later in the draft doesn’t mean you will and since it’s easier to recognize an elite forward than it is to recognize an elite defenseman it would actually stand to reason that the elite defenseman should be preferred in favour of the elite forward.

      • krob1000 says:

        and look at that draft again and tell me Chara isn’t the number one by a mile now http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1996e.html

        • Loonie says:

          Why don’t we all just agree that Jan Bulis should have been the #1 overall pick?

        • commandant says:

          Of course he is.

          But no one knew that at the time.

          With 20/20 hindsight, 10 years from now, we may look at another 2nd round defenceman as Jones’ equivalent. The odds are better than the drafts’ best forward being a second rounder.

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          • krob1000 says:

            I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them…but Jones to me is the best D prospect this early since Doughty and before that Pronger….if Drouin or Mackinnon I believed were Crosby/Stamkos or even Ovechkin I would take them…but I thinkt hey are more like Patrick Kane/Hall/RNH/YAkupov/etc I would not.

            I will telll you this…historically 1st overall dmen haven’t lived up their billing(Hamrlik, Berard, Phillips, Erik Johnson)…this kid though has pro athlete pedigree, skill better than any of the aforementioned now, elite skating, size and is NHL ready…..in this day and age at D that is something. I think you are getting in Jones a 10-15 year perrennial all star …it is of course a crap shoot but that is what makes the draft and the future fun.
            MAckinnon is closer than Drouin to me.

  25. Edman says:

    The addition of Rene Bourque is exactly what we needed to acquire at trade deadline. Hopefully he comes out and plays as well as he did this year, rather than last.

    Don’t forget, Diaz is skating now and could possibly come back before playoffs.

    People still give MB crap for doing nothing at trade deadline. Bourqe and Diaz are the additions we need to make a strong playoff push.

    Really excited for this postseason, but more importantly, really excited for the future.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Heard McPhee on the radio about 4-5 days ago and he was talking about the slow start. He specifically mentioned how Backstrom and Ovie both came into camp out of shape and that playing in the KHL during lockout had taught them a great deal of bad habits. Said they were skating circles away from puck and essentially not working hard enough. He mentioned that it took Oates some time to work this out of both of their games, and that he was expecting the opposite from them after the lockout. He was hoping they would arrive in great game shape and be able to lead the team.

    Was amazed at the openness and honesty of his criticisms.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …Adam Oates has and will be very good for Ovechkin

      …Adam was a very intelligent player, and it seems will be one of the NHL’s better coaches Gerald

      • krob1000 says:

        imagine if Oates had got to play with him…..I am sure sometimes he does. I thought the Oates addition would really take Backstrom to a new level but they are different types of playmakers I guess. Backstrom uses his puck possession to look for seams where as Oates relied on quicker decisions…..still think eventually Backstrom will get back to his potential but it may take a while and the point they make about the KHL and the conditioning is definitely a factor. Ovie looked fast a month or two ago…but not shifty…he started to get that shiftiness back and you knew it was gonna get ugly for the rest of the league

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Sometimes it needs to be said. These people are professional athletes and if they show up out of shape that is just unprofessional. Lockout or not they should still keep in good shape

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  27. Bripro says:

    I watch our two rookies this year, and I’m reminded that my son is the same age.
    And my boy was such a good skater, with an average hockey IQ that I suggested to my wife that we put him into figure skating.
    I don’t remember much of the rest of that day.
    Anyhow, I look at my boy and I think, those kids are in the NHL and yet they’re so young.
    Their talents are truly exceptional and I hope they realize it but still stay humble. We’ve got such a great team this year.
    Every game day is an adrenaline rush! And this even without a Guinness in hand.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think what I like most about Gallagher and Galchenyuk is their attitudes. Both seem grounded, level headed and hard working. Their character appears to be excellent, has been great to see some of their traits in 24CH.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Your son the Bruins fan? (My grandson is a Penguins fan)

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • krob1000 says:

      As I watch Galchenyuk skate I wonder why he keeps his hands so low…it makes for an easy target as it means he can;t get an arm up and he is a great guy to hit. It only takes a glove/stick or two into someones chops when they try to hit you for them to stop. I know his hands are his game and he likely wants them quickly to be able to get to his stick but I have never seen an NHLer skate with his hands so low and not able to defend themselves like that. I wish he would carry them higher so he can get them up and brace quicker.

      • HAB-PROFESSOR says:

        He plays like Malkin…so don’t worry, future super star.


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    • Habfan10912 says:

      The energy and effort they bring to the ice every game is just a pleasure to watch. I really think that those two ARE a big reason for the turn around this year. Might be the biggest. OK, I’ll say it. They are the biggest, along with Markov and Prust. :)

  28. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Ovie …what a beautiful hockey beast

    …and, what a waste in a town like Washington …wouldn’t he have been a legend in Montreal, where every living soul lives and breathes the Game ?

    …Crescent Street certainly would never be the same

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  29. Loonie says:

    A statistic that is very interesting regarding the Habs this season is that in their twelve losses the opposing team has had a save percentage under .940 only four times. In the other games the combined save percentage is .957.

    The combined save percentage of the teams beating the Habs on the season is .943.

    Needless to say that the teams that play the Habs in the playoffs will need some out of this World goaltending to beat them.

  30. commandant says:

    My first scouting report and the player I would take first overall in the upcoming NHL draft, if I was picking. It might surprise some.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/09/jonathan-drouin-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-1/

    Mitch’s look at the Winter Classic jerseys through the years.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/09/wings-maple-leafs-and-a-look-back-at-the-best-jerseys-in-winter-classic-history/

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      Nice work Ben. The top 3 in the draft are just awesome players. For me its ennie meanie minnie moe. Can’t go wrong with any of top three.

      • Loonie says:

        I see Jones and then everyone else personally.

        I think he could play in the NHL right now and not look out of place. Wouldn’t even blink as the GM holding the first pick, it’d be Jones before Bettman got done finishing his welcome address to the fans.

        • krob1000 says:

          Jones without a doubt….glad to see you have come to this conclusion as I know you disagreed earlier on in the season. A dman that is one dimensional is very risky with a top pick but someone like this JOnes kid is a no brainer. He has the ptoential to be a workhorse like Blake, PRonger, Chara,etc…he can dominate games for half of the game and take away half of the ice. He has the size to compliment the skill and is ahead of those guys at the same age although most skill levels today are far higher younger due to specialization in minor hockey camps.
          You just can’t pass up a guy who cuts the rink in half and can play half of the game.
          Jones hands down.

          • Loonie says:

            I have Barkov closest to him but that’s based only on play at the WJHC and reviews of him both on a talent level and statistically.

          • commandant says:

            I always favour the Elite forward over the Elite defenceman.

            Why? Look around the league. How many #1 defenders came out of the late first round, the second round, or even later than that. How many Shea Weber, Zdeno Chara, Nick Lidstrom, and other Norris winners were drafted later? Heck our very own PK Subban was a second rounder. Defencemen develop later and so it is possible to find an elite D later in the draft.

            Forwards? Not so much. Look at the Art Ross Trophy. The only player who was drafted outside the first round and has won this award is Bryan Trottier, who did it once. Marty St. Louis, an undrafted also has won it. (so has Gretzky, but to be fair he would have been an easy 1st overall if he was eligible for the draft instead of protected by the Oilers when they jumped from the WHA to NHL). The majority of Art Ross winners are top 5 picks. The majority of truly dynamic game breaking forwards are top 5 picks (with some exceptions). It just seems that much harder a position to fill later.

            In this way, when things are equal, or close to equal, amongst the elites… i always give the edge to the forward.

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          • HabinBurlington says:

            What Ben says!

          • Loonie says:

            Ben, I don’t disagree with your philosophy. But for it to be implemented in this case you have to come to the conclusion that Drouin or Mackinnon are going to be on par with Art Ross winners.

            I’m not saying they aren’t. But based on what I’ve seen, read and heard about Jones, Mackinnon and Drouin respectively I would be taking Jones.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Was that the opinion for last year’s draft? May have been a can’t-miss-top-five, and now Forsberg has already been traded.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

        • Loonie says:

          In my opinion Forsberg never had the production or pedigree that justified his ranking but he can still obviously become a great player.

          He was billed as a two way, fast, physical, scoring forward. Problem with that scouting analysis is that he isn’t an elite scorer and hasn’t been.

          That’s kind of important for players ranked at the top of their class. He had a nice year this season from a scoring standpoint but it’s a year late.

          Now consider for a moment that Aleksandr Barkov has been playing pro hockey for two years. Produced a .5ppg pace in his first year and this season scored 48 points in 53 games. He’s big, has great hands, creativity, passing and shooting.

          Yet he’s billed as a pick around the #5 mark.

          This kid has proven much more both in his league and in international competition than Drouin or Mackinnon.

        • Fransaskois says:

          The hype this year far out-shadows that of last years top 5. Not that I necessarily believe it but, it seems as if most players in the top 5 could/would be picked 1st overall in most drafts. Seems ridiculous to me but I suppose it’s possible.

          • Loonie says:

            Mackinnon was billed as the next Crosby long ago.
            Drouin has been compared to Giroux and has the creativity and ability offensively that justifies the comparison.
            Jones is by a huge margin the most talented and athletic defenseman to come into the draft in a long time.
            Barkov has been a pro for two years and is producing like NHL players do in that league.

            It’s justified hype for the most part.

    • Bripro says:

      The way he played for Team Canada just reaffirmed how talented he really is.
      I watched him, a few years back, when he played for Lac St Louis.
      He was the only one out there. Incredible hands, this kid.

    • H.Upmann says:

      Wow!!! Nice video of Drouin there. Great stickhandling (reminded me of an AK27)… and then the effort to retrieve puck by left boards. Awesome.

      Too bad Colorado or Calgary will pick him up. lol

    • scuba says:

      I was huge booster of Drouin all year, even predicting him as a first overall guy before Christmas but something has changed for him the last two months or so. Early in the year he was consistantly breaking up plays and striping pucks and working hard to turn pucks over. Lately he just stands around waiting for his teamates to get the puck for him. He is still absolute magic with the puck but his compete level has gone way down and is dissapointing to see. I am actually hoping he has a bit of an injury as he missed a few games after a knee on knee hit about a month ago.

      Wathcing him and Mackinnon after Mac came back from his injury is no comparison as Mackinnon has outworked him all over the ice and created much more offence than Drouin. I am back in the Mackinnon camp for now. I can’t speak for other guys in the draft but I watch almost all of the Moose games and something just isn’t the same with Drouin lately.

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  31. Loonie says:

    Since it appears we’ll be playing the Leafs, Senators or Rangers I’ve compiled some stats for the period of the last ten games against each team.

    V. Leafs
    5-5 record
    27GF – 23GA
    284SF – 289SA

    *Out of those ten games the team with the most shots won four.

    V. Senators
    6-4 record
    27GF – 21GA
    305SF – 318SA

    *In those ten games the team with the most shots won only twice.

    V. Rangers
    8-2 record
    27GF – 16GA
    300SF – 249SA

    *The team with the most shots won 5 of the 8 games where there was a shot advantage.

    It’s important to keep in mind that this edition of the Habs played the majority of those games under Jacques Martin and were consistently out-shot.

  32. HardHabits says:

    A well deserved nod for Therrien. Congrats!!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Agree. A lot of us were skeptical of MT2 but he has seemed to be a changed man. At least so far. Love the way he’s had patience with the kids.

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Looking forward to the game tonight, again has felt like an eternity between games….Seems we are better with only 2 days off instead of 3 between games.

    • Bripro says:

      Do you think you’ll go through withdrawals next year, when there are only 2-3 games/week?

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I actually like the breaks between games. Gives the heart time to recover. I am doubling up on the Lipitor for the playoffs. CHeers bud.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Absolutely Bri, I have become accustomed to games every 2nd night. Evidently Jim’s cardiologist told him he needed a hobby to help with the chest pains, so he has turned to the worm farm. Instead of counting sheep he is counting worms to help sleep. :)

      • GenerationYHabs says:

        I find that he Compact season keeps the discussion topics on this site from getting too stale. We don’t have to reread the same points about the same win or loss for four or five days in a row.

  34. The Jackal says:

    Saw some posters talking about House of Cards in the last thread.
    Anyone know how it compares to the show Homeland?

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    • bel33 says:

      It’s a good show…. but not as action packed as Homeland obviously. More cerebral and political. Mind you I’ve really behind on my Homeland episodes so maybe cerebral isn’t the right word. But overall House of Cards is an interesting show.

    • adamkennelly says:

      House of Cards is a must watch – with so few decent shows on TV – well worth your time checking it out – you will not be disappointed. Homeland – excellent show as well.

      Shameless – is also awesome. I like to say you cannot offend me – but Shameless manages to do so..its brilliant.

    • The Jackal says:

      Merci. I’ll check it out.

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  35. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Why not give another sport a try?

    “Jays claim Gomez off waivers”

  36. Danno says:

    Ovechkin and the red-hot Caps are in town

    Game Day:Habs Entertain Capitals.

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    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

    • KenD29 says:

      red hot against the likes of the Panthers, Lightning, Ilses and Hurricanes. Tonight they face a tougher challenge!

      All About Work Ethic

      • krob1000 says:

        Confidence is a powerful ally though……any team that beats 4 NHL teams in a row will have a ton of it and will come in with a positive mindset and believing they can win. Factor in Ovechkin playing like he has in the past, his history vs Montreal and you have a tough match up in the making. Along with Ovechkin playing well you have Green and Backstrom appearing to awaken after over a year of hibernation….

        • KenD29 says:

          you may be right. However when you play stronger opposition one that does not give you the ability to play at will, frustration can set in which could be a negative.
          In any event, should prove to be a good game.

          All About Work Ethic

      • jackbutt says:

        Couldn’t say it better my self

  37. youngwun says:

    Welcome back Rene !

  38. krob1000 says:

    I sure hope he is in there because he is healthy enough and not because another top 9 forward is returning to the lineup.

  39. DorvalTony says:

    Ovechkin is a complete floater and net suck. As Siemens wrote, he cashes in on bottom tier teams. Habs by 4.

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      While I may agree with you, to be consistent, I wish people would avoid political commentary on a hockey site. Go Habs!

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk.

  40. Mavid says:

    Watched the interview he looked alot better than I thought he would..pretty tough customer..

  41. shiram says:

    Saw a video with Crosby yesterday, he was saying he had to eat shakes and had issues keeping his weight up.
    He’s already got his upper teeth fixed.

  42. BJ says:

    Regarding tonight’s game vs Washington, I don’t know if it was mentioned as I just finished working (sometimes that happens), the Caps have beaten us 4 times in a row in Montreal, including the last 3 games by shutout. So its time to end that with a quick goal and keep going after we’ve scored the first one.

    • The Jackal says:

      Gotta take it to those caps.

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    • wjc says:

      BJ, What a strategy, get the first goal and then hold the lead and win.

      You also said the Capitals have beaten ‘US’, I think you meant to say “the Capitals have beaten the Canandiens 4 times. Pretty sure you were watching the game somewhere and were not in the line-up.

      There is no ‘us” in spectator or cheer leader. They do the playing and ‘us’ does the watching.

      wjc


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