Video: Therapy day for Desharnais, Wisniewski

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Ryan White has a chat with Canadiens goaltending coach Pierre Groulx.

The Canadiens announce a therapy day for both forward David Desharnais and defenceman James Wisniewski.

Head coach Jacques Martin said there will be no update on the status of either player vis-à-vis their availability for Game 6 until tomorrow.

The water and Gatorade bottles of Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty were on the boards in front of the Canadiens’ Brossard bench at 10 am, suggesting he might be practising this morning with his team. But finally, Pacioretty skated across to the second sheet and worked out with rehabbing teammates Andrei Markov and Josh Gorges.

Pacioretty has been skating on his own as part of his rehab protocol following a severe concussion and fractured vertebra suffered March 8 at the Bell Centre when he was struck into a stanchion by Bruins captain Zdeno Chara.

400 Comments

  1. showey47 says:

    Amazing how a great save at one end which should have made it 3-2 pens and put the bolts within minutes of elimination turns the game around and now tampa has a 4-2 lead.

  2. Joe Habsfan says:

    I am stuck in Hockey Town USA for work all week…cbc.ca doesn’t stream the games in the US…CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP???

    If you know how/where I can stream it please let me know. THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH in advance!

    GHG!!!

  3. punkster says:

    Now that I’ve rambled on and on about Gomez and gotten that off my chest let me take a shot at this epidemic of spam.

    Isn’t there a program or something out there that can get rid of this crap?

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  4. Propwash says:

    Wow! Rolosson was on fire.

  5. punkster says:

    Gomez:
    I’m going to be a bit of a contrarian on the whole Gomez discussion. First let me just say that I acknowledge his lack of production and his albatross of a contract. There’s not a damn thing I can do about either and they sit there like not one but two pachyderms in the room. And they’re both taking a big dump on our present and future opportunities to succeed. The reality is that because of his career history it is very unlikely he will be benched and only slightly possible he will be demoted to 3rd or 4th line status during this season, particularly now with DD out. I realized back in late November that short of a trade deadline miracle Gomez would be a Hab for the entire season and that if his numbers did not improve we would likely be stuck with him for at least another season since nobody else would want him.

    So here we are facing elimination and still no Gomez. Barring a miraculous awakening and a career-high run of good fortune over the coming weeks we are definitely going to see him in a Habs uni again next season. The only way we can unload that contract is if he suddenly becomes the productive Gomez of old and another team wants to take a chance on him. Of course if he does that then the temptation is to do this all over again. Ya sure, we could bury him in the minors and eat the money but that will not happen. Too may issues.

    So he’s here for the playoffs and he’s here for the next season at least. Fine. I say work with him, help him get his mojo back and give him another opportunity to prove his worth. I have no idea how he’ll do next season but he’ll be part of a team that includes Markov, Gorges and Pacioretty. Can’t help but see some improvement there. In the meantime I’ll just cheer him on and hope for the best.

    He frustrates me but he wears the uniform. I’m not about to dump on him.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Timo says:

      It almost seems like you have a point… but, I just don’t see it.

      • punkster says:

        Point being he’s here, he ain’t going away any time soon. I understand this but many do not. It’s like the Breeze situation a few years back. No choice so might as well make the best of it.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

        • avatar_58 says:

          Brisebois didn’t make 7+ mil and take up top minutes, so that’s not a valid comparison.

          • punkster says:

            Nothing to do with contract or position.

            ***Subbang Baby!!!***

          • Sakus Evil Twin says:

            Punkster… I tried this train of thought a while ago and most scratched their bums and said, almost incoherently, ‘but the contract… But the contract… How can he look at himself in the mirror…the contract…’

            I think your wasting good energy on feeding the bad.

            No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I hear you loud and clear. But the problem with this pachyderm poop, is what more can the team do to get his mojo back. I do think that with next years defence we will be much better getting out of our zone which should help all the forwards. I am still cheering for the guy, just am finally nearing the breaking point. I can only imagine every time Gauthier sees Gainey right now he must look at him and say…. well we can only imagine what he says.

    • ed lopaz says:

      the game he played when he was on for 4 goals against was

      the SINGLE WORST GAME I have ever seen a center play DEFENSIVELY in 40 years of following hockey.

      his contract and lack of offence are nothing compared to his complete and utter incompetence in defensive zone coverage.

      if Gomez would at least play defence I would leave him alone.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

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  7. G-Man says:

    In about 26 hours, the bitching and moaning will begin. or
    In about 26 hours, we’ll be saying that we can’t wait for Wednesday night.

    C’mon, Habs! Bookend those Bruin patsies!

    • Habitant33 says:

      In that case I can’t wait for Wednesday night. The Bell will be rockin and the Bruins we will be Mockin!!!
      Wish I could be there for sure!!

      Go Habs Go!

    • Timo says:

      It will be the former. Last game of the season tomorrow night, then it’s painful summer in anticipation of glorious Gomez rebound season 2011-2012. (8 goals, 22 assists)

      • Bugs says:

        Not to mention whether you guys are gonna keep Iginla or not.

        Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

        • Timo says:

          us guys who? like us flamers? yes, we guys are very very concerned about the status of Iginla. Personally, I haven’t slept in more than 2 months thinking just about that.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Let’s play a game to pass the time. It’s called Flamer or Dick.

          You name someone and then decide if he’s a Flamer or a dick.

      • Habitant33 says:

        I remember the 93 run. Every game edge of the seat winning unheard of 10 games in OT.
        We’ve been on the wrong end of OT these last two games. But, tomorrow night it all changes. Boston couldn’t close out their series last year, and it’s going to be the same story for the Bruins this year.
        The title reads “Bruins Blow it again…Bruins Blow!!”

        Go Habs Go!

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  9. Habitant33 says:

    Ghosts of the Montreal Forum, your services are required at the Bell Centre tomorrow night!!

    Go Habs Go!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yah would be nice to have them, no better team to experience them than those bruins. These two day breaks between games are killing me. I know we have some guys that need the rest, but i can’t take the waiting!

    • Habitant33 says:

      Habs need to score an early one on the floppy Timmy T. If they score a shaky goal in the first few minutes the flood gates will open.
      However, the longer the game goes before getting one by Timmy, the stronger he seem sto get.
      Oh and yeah Chara, I wish you had smaller feet you big goon!

      Go Habs Go!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yah, Cammy and Gionta seem especially to be squeezing the stick a bit. Need our scorers to get their confidence back. One thing about the flopper you are right about, usually when we get to him early, the rest takes care of itself. He is so due to have a rough night.

  10. HabinBurlington says:

    If DD is out of lineup tomorrow and the wiz is iffy, then they have to put Weber in. He can play forward and if the wiz has trouble he can go back to D. Or at least spell wiz a bit. I found it weird last game how he could miss so much and then come back and look pretty good for awhile. I am not at all questioning his heart, just am curious what the ailment is, and can they have a bigger shot of painkiller ready for him for the next game. We will win tomorrow, it is just that simple….

    • Bugs says:

      I’m for it.
      Especially if Poolio is to play 6mins on the 4th; may as well have a defensive player.
      Gonna use Poolio in an elimination game, it better be for offence, y’know, and that means top 2 lines with major minutes.
      If not, then there’s no point havin’m and Weber needs to take the spot.

      Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

  11. Propwash says:

    Connor for the Pens epically failed a penalty shot, lol!

  12. Mark C says:

    A lot of Benny hate on here, some of it justifiable given his propensity to fall down and take untimely penalties. However, this year Benny was one of Montreal’s most effective offensive players. 5-on-5 Benny ranked 4th among Habs forwards in goals per 60 minutes and ranked 1st in 1st assists per 60 minutes. If he can limit the bad penalties and improve his balance a bit he can be a real asset as a 3rd liner with a lot of upside. Montreal would be foolish to give up on Benny at this point.

    • Habitoban says:

      As a Benny-booster I heartily agree. He was also third, I believe, in hits, despite his limited minutes. He also did pretty well with his gloves off (funny how the bue line knocks him off his feet but he stays pretty vertical in a fight… I guess leaning on someone helps.) Many of us are waiting for the breakout party and are always disappointed when it doesn’t happen. He is still young and needs to play with guys with offensive skills similar to his. It takes lots of ice time to sharpen your offence, you just can’t turn it on and off with spot duty. For example, when a sniper like Cammy comes back from an injury it takes him several games to get his timing and creativity back. I’m sure that’s why max wasn’t interested in 3rd and 4th line duty, even on the big team.

      • Mark C says:

        He’s very young still, won’t 25 until next fall. Maybe he won’t become a star, but he’s real close to becoming a great 3rd liner, who could be a good 2nd liner by fixing a few things, plus he’s cheap.

      • Mr. Biter says:

        Yeah I posted about his ability to stand up when fighting(and doing well at it) about a week ago and just checked, he did score 13 goals during the season, but he just looks so akward or out of place lately and unfortunatly the constant falling down doesn’t help his cause. 1st round draft, #4, and no one noticed his bad skating style then? Incredable. Also last year he didn’t seem to fall down that much or i just never noticed it.

        Mr. Biter

        • Habitoban says:

          Fifteen more pounds and a lower centre of gravity and he’d be a force to be reckoned with (here’s hoping anyways). Maybe he’s getting a head start on the weight gain with those steamed dogs in the press box lately. I guess there’s always a silver lining.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Good reply about the weight gain technique. I never try to give up on young player or be to critical and prehaps the weight gain will help,but his play seems to have been going downhill whilt Eller (not to much bulk on that boy) has elevated his game. A like I said he will drop the gloves and does really well,snd prehaps a summer of “power Skating ” lessons will help him. A #4 draft choice you don’t want to give up on and for the$1,3 M he’s getting paid he’ll he probably get one lsat shot this fall to stay. I will also be a very happy fan if he scores 2 goals tomorrow and admit I was wrong. Have a good night

            Mr. Biter

    • Bugs says:

      Number 1 in the League for goals scored by players with 10 mins TOI or less. Although I heard that a few weeks ago; may have changed since.

      Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

  13. Mark C says:

    This Montreal doesn’t need Markov is crazy talk. I understand that there is a risk with re-signing him. Each knee injury increases the odds of another, that’s an unfortunate fact. There is also the strong possibility that Markov will never be the same player he was before his injury streak. However, Markov has been a legit top-10 D-man in this league for years. This team has to take the risk with Markov because the upside is too great to pass up. A D corps that has Subban, Markov (even at 90%), Gorges, and maybe one or both of Wiz/Gill is scary good. Two (three with the Wiz) elite PP players, and three elite PK’ers; this group could be really special in front of Price.

  14. Toe Blake says:

    Scott Gomez will have his playoff highlight moment tomorrow night. Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling that it will come on the handshake line at the end of Game 6.

    • SmartDog says:

      His last goal was in February.
      He’s -3.
      He’s lost 65% of his face-offs.
      Just not being on the ice for a goal against would be a highlight.

      • Toe Blake says:

        He is the anti-Christ of offense and the Lucifer of defense!!!

      • newbrunswick troy says:

        of all those stats SmartDog..the one that alarms me most is the faceoffs, this team has maybe won just a legitimate handfull of faceoffs this series….and i gaurentee that alone will cost the Habs game six if they can,t compete better in the circle

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Hey, I got on your case a bit the other night — something which I don’t normally do. I thought you were trolling at the time, but I was mistaken. Sorry.

  15. LizardKing1967 says:

    don’t need Markov. Can’t take a chance (unless he agrees to 1 year deal only). For me, we have what we need right in front of us…..

    Subban – Gill: top shut down pair, and P.K. can float when needed.
    Wiz – Gorges: see above discription, replace P.K. by Wiz here.
    Weber – Nash: see above discription, replace P.K./Wiz by Weber here.
    Mara as 7th

    Keep money we save by NOT signing Markov, and go get a top 6 forward WITH SIZE. And don’t say we don’t need it, cause that excuse has worn thin. I love our “small” guys, but wouldn’t a 6-3, 225 lb center / winger look great along side what we already have?

    Cammy – Pleks – Laich / Cole / Vrbata
    Patches – Gomez – Gionta
    AK46 – DD – Eller
    White – Pyatt – Moen

    All these guys signed / signing, I still see us at around $52 M with some cap room to spare too.

    Good luck against the Bruins tomorrow boys. DO IT FOR MAX!!!! Make Knuckles Nilan proud, as he still believes. He;s been on Team 990 for the last week, and today, he still won’t give up. He still feels we can do it. AND SO DO I!!!!!!

    As A.S. would say “MTL Stand Up”

    Jim-out.

    I BELIEVE!

    • Bugs says:

      How ’bout we acquire the “forward with size” FIRST, and THEN talk about what to do with Markov?
      Just an idea.

      Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

      • LizardKing1967 says:

        save the money regardless. why take the chance? Defense has NOT been our problem of late. Every Boston goal was due to blown coverage of a forward (except obviously the two glove-side shots last game). Even Pleks has blown a coverage for a goal. I believe he is playing injured. He doesn’t look right out there. And he’s lost way too many face-offs in the last two months.

        Jim-out.

        I BELIEVE!

        • Bugs says:

          Hm. Well, in that case, the money-saving argument is rejected, Jim. We’re gonna re-sign Markov. Maybe trade him for the “forward with size” you suggest, who knows? But he’ll be re-signed either way.
          Aw’ight?

          Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

          • LizardKing1967 says:

            geez Bugs, take it easy. Why so harsh on my comments?
            I’m just dreaming / wishing like everyone else here.

            Jim-out.

            I BELIEVE!

          • Bugs says:

            Nothing wrong with dreamin’n’wishin.
            But problems tend to arise when such dreams’n’wishes are presented as viable concepts.
            If you’re gonna dream of money-savin and wish for d-man-dumpin, dream about Spacek, not our friggin general.

            Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

        • Clay says:

          Markov is usually good for 65 points or so. That is offense we need.
          I say we keep him, bury Gomez, and then get 2 real top-6 forwards.

          __________________________
          The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

          • punkster says:

            He’s not very big so we won’t have to dig a deep hole.

            ***Subbang Baby!!!***

          • Clay says:

            Lol, nice one Dave!
            Seriously though, he is an anchor we need to cut.

            __________________________
            The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

        • Mr. Biter says:

          They may not be the fastest but have been as good or better than the boston D-men and actually both goals you could not fault the d-man involved. 1st goal Bruin breaks his stick taking a shot and puck dribbles to open teamate. 2nd goal d-man has to go after the man with the puck, shot rebound (good save) and to open man. Bang game over. BTW who blew the coverage? Wasn’t gomez as he was not on the ice.

          Mr. Biter

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          Wait wait wait! Are you saying both Marchand and Horton sipping tea at the edge of the crease before both goals last game was NOT because of our D?!

      • Mr. Biter says:

        Great Idea. If we get the “forward” we see what we have left over for Markov. Again just don’t want to pay a lot for what may be an injury prone player who will want a high salary based on performance levels from2 years ago. If BG or PG gave or had given a 3 or 4 $5 Mil. a year contract for a player whose last full season was 2 years ago (and in fairness has played well when he did play) the site would be down for hours. A one year deal to see how he performs fine, mulit year no. I don’t know if you can add a performance bonus (games played in season) to a contract or how that would effect the cap? Anybody know?

        Mr. Biter

    • Bob Barker says:

      Brooks Laich might be a good option.

      I don’t see how Vrbata qualifies as a winger with size. Just as inconsistent as AK46 but less talented and way less physical.

  16. kempie says:

    52-11-21
    13-14-46
    32-81-57
    53-15-94

    • Bugs says:

      13-11-21
      57-14-46
      53-81-52
      32-15-94
      If we’re gonna do this thing, it has to be full-speed ahead at this point. Shock’n’awe time.

      Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

      • kempie says:

        I was so sure about what I had until I read yours. I think so long as we an agree on 11-14-81-15 we should be okay. I was reading Habitoban’s post below and I just want to make sure we don’t get any 94s & 53s mixed up in there.

      • HardHabits says:

        I hate any line combos we got because we aint got much when you try to squeeze 57 and 11 in there. If we’re to waste Gomez and Pouliot at least put them together.

        57-11-21
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        53-81-52
        32-15-94

        • LizardKing1967 says:

          why Pouliot? he’s now proved he’s useless here, just like the guy we got rid of for him. We played a GREAT game on Saturday. No line changes required. Go out and play the same game, the same way, and we win.

          Jim-out.

          I BELIEVE!

          • Bugs says:

            Because “useless” as he is, he’s still got more goals than anyone you wanna replace’m with.

            Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

        • Bugs says:

          Because you can’t go from the press-box to the 1st line without insulting your other first-liners.
          Whereas on the 2nd, you ain’t offendin anyone below.

          Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

        • kempie says:

          Remember last change. Something I honestly didn’t consider until I’d already posted. I dunno, I guess I subscribe to the ‘roll as many realistically productive lines as you can’ theory. Spread it out if you can. I think JM’s pretty good at this but sometimes you just have to go 13-14-21-76-20, especially at home in an elimination game. Man what I wouldn’t give to be able to type some 79s, 26s and 67s. Anyway, these numbers are starting to hurt my head, and this is feeling like pre-game obsessing so, I’m gonna try drinking for a while instead and see how that goes.

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  18. JohnBellyful says:

    MONTREAL – Scott Gomez will not be in the Montreal Canadiens’ lineup tomorrow night when the team takes on the Boston Bruins down 3-2 in the opening round series.
    “Scott was injured today and will be unable to play,” coach Jacques Martin told reporters.
    Martin wouldn’t go into details but said Gomez suffered an upper body injury during a vigorous practice, a lower body injury at a players-only meeting and a concussion while signing autographs.
    “It was an unfortunate series of events,” said Martin, whose right hand was wrapped in a bandage.
    Team captain Brian Gionta, sporting a shiner, agreed it had been a tough day for the Habs’ highest-paid player. “Bad luck just seemed to follow him around today,” Gionta said.
    “It wath brutal, thimply brutal what happened to Thcott,” assistant captain Hal Gill said, speaking with a lisp as a result of a few chipped teeth. “I feel thorry for him. I’m thure he’ll bounth back nexth theason.”
    Martin said the Canadiens will have to make the best of a bad situation without their acknowledged playoff “leader” in the lineup but he expressed confidence his team will prevail and have David Desharnais back for the seventh and deciding game.
    He said he doesn’t plan to juggle his lines so as not to draw attention to Gomez being absent.

  19. Habitoban says:

    Arpon tweeted that at practice Pyatt was centring White and alternately, Benny or Weber. Halperin is a good 2-way centre. Why are we wasting him on the wing now that DD is down? Yes it is handy to have him available for faceoffs on Eller’s line, but with DD gone, that luxury is past. I assume that one-dimensional line of Pyatt, White, and Benny/Weber will see limited ice time, and you know what that means. To paraphrase Nigel in Spina Tap let’s “Turn it up to 11″, and like Spinal Tap, having “11” doesn’t make things any better.

  20. pmaraw says:

    mike gillis??? is that vancouver’s gm? just had a huge spiel about percentages of pentalty’s granted to either team, chi/van and hop chi gets 59% of the pp overall and how as the games get more important, that % goes up in chicago’s favour as they get more and more pp’s and when the games on the line, van gets no pp’s whatsoever. good for him for standing up and speaking out about it

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      The issue is he’ll just called a whiner whose team is self-destructing. The NHL is not a place where officiating quality can be called into question, you get branded a sore loser and that’s it.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      disregard. (MY previous comment)

    • The Cat says:

      It surprises me that so many still believe NHL is on the up and up. How many examples of outright phoniness does one need?

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • VancouverHab says:

      Oh my goodness. “W-a-a-a-a-a-h-h.”

      Mike Gillis, with exactly ZERO hockey management experience, now facing the reality of what will happen to the architect of the Luongo contract after a 7th-Game loss.

      His pre-loss panic response? “W-a-a-a-a-h-h-h: Refs bad! Boo Hoo! W-a-a-a-a-a–h-h!”

      In other words, just a typical year in Canucks history…

      • Clay says:

        Did you see the last game?
        Weak (WEAK) penalty shot call leads to a goal for Chicago.
        Shortly thereafter, Chicago shoots the puck over the glass, no call. Chicago player high-sticks a Van player, no call.
        That’s not quality officiating, but it is extremely biased.

        __________________________
        The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

    • Bob Barker says:

      During the regular season Vancouver was the 6th most-penalized in the league (313 TSH), Chicago was second least penalized (255 TSH).

      *TSH = Times Shorthanded

      It might just be that Vancouver has taken more penalties rather than some ref bias.

  21. Laramy87 says:

    TSN just said its doubtful Desharnies plays tomorrow. Is that confirmed?

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      I’ve heard knee sprain but with the Habs it’s always a hazy reference to a day-to-day injury in the playoffs.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Mach1 says:

      Confirmed, sprained knee. I have been reading al these posts. and the silliness over who tweets what, and things that happened months ago… grow up, get over it, we need to be positive and really support this team.. can’t change the past, but you sure as hell can play a part in the future. we are in a bit of trouble, we beat them in game 1 with a sick Chara, game 2 without chara. we played well enough to win last game… lucky bounces either way, get behind this team, scream yell cheer, quit with the negativity. years ago, you would not have seen Lafleur or Robinson getting distracted about tweets and middle fingers.they play the game, we support them

  22. SeriousFan09 says:

    As I tend to do in off-days, I reflect more on what’s really troubling me. I’m more willing to accept Gomez can rebound from his worst career season in 2011-12 than that Spacek is someone we want/need on the blue line next season. The Habs do not have enough defencemen who can take 20+ minutes without us sweating it and that needs be adjusted.

    Next year, I’d favour Markov-Subban, Gorges-Wisniewski, Gill-Weber and Mara as the 7th man. This allows the team to have the mix of LH-RH shots we’ve wanted for years to make it easier for D-to-D passing in the zone. Subban gets tutored by Markov in the finer points of on-ice vision and taking his offensive game further in the NHL, while mixing it with defensive responsibilites. Gorges allows Wisniewski to be adventerous by anchoring him with a defensively reliable partner while Gill takes on a new student who could use some lessons on defensive-end responsibilities. Mara becomes the thumping 7th man the Habs can insert in case of an injury and have some physical force. Spacek is dumped any way the Habs can manage it and they introduce a D that has only one Starting Six man over 35 years old, rather than 3.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agreed, hopefully he retires, but if not, i think spacek has to go. If we have our full healthy defencemen, wow would that make all our forwards look better

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Agree with most of what you said, however Markov is a huge question mark. Definatly had all the skills before his 1st injury but people were allready posting before he got hurt this year that he seemed slower. Now with another leg injury how will his body respond next year. He and his agent will want a multi year deal for probably 5-6 Mil. With his injury history and how he comes back is a toss up. Yes he was a great player. Is he worth 5-6 mil multi year i regretablly don’t think you take a chance. if a 1 year deal for 5-6 Mil to see if he holds up and his skill level is the same sure go for it. Multi year no. This is one of thoes decisions that drive GM’s crazy cause some one will offer a multi year deal and if he plays great the guy’s a genius, if he flops(injuried Habs d-men in previous seasons going free agent SS and Komo bad bad deals) the guys a dolt. Glad I have no real say in the matter.

      Mr. Biter

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I think Markov is a well-rounded enough defencemen with his intelligence and vision that even slowed down, he can be a very effective D. Whether I’m right or not, having Subban to carry the puck with him and do the physical things will let him have an easier time next year. I agree he was slower, but again he hasn’t had full and proper conditioning for the last couple of years, generally rushing back from injury to help the team out.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

        • LA Loyalist says:

          Markov is not guaranteed to be the same, so nice to get Yemelin as insurance as you suggest. Better a slow smart Markov than a slow dumb Spacek.

          If they are all great :) that’s a high class problem.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Agree, however the 4 Mil. diferrence in salary (give or take a few$100,000’s) is the problem. And yes he has been rushed in to help the team and has done so, however hockey’s a business and everyone who post postively here wants the Habs to win so his ability vs. salary is a big question mark.

            Mr. Biter

    • LizardKing1967 says:

      don’t need Markov. Can’t take a chance (unless he agrees to 1 year deal only). For me, we have what we need right in front of us…..

      Subban – Gill: top shut down pair, and P.K. can float when needed.
      Wiz – Gorges: see above discription, replace P.K. by Wiz here.
      Weber – Nash: see above discription, replace P.K./Wiz by Weber here.
      Mara as 7th

      Keep money we save by NOT signing Markov, and go get a top 6 forward WITH SIZE. And don’t say we don’t need it, cause that excuse has worn thin. I love our “small” guys, but wouldn’t a 6-3, 225 lb center / winger look great along side what we already have?

      Cammy – Pleks – Laich / Cole / Vrbata
      Patches – Gomez – Gionta
      AK46 – DD – Eller
      White – Pyatt – Moen

      All these guys signed / signing, I still see us at around $52 M with some cap room to spare too.

      Good luck against the Bruins tomorrow boys. DO IT FOR MAX!!!! Make Knuckles Nilan proud, as he still believes. He;s been on Team 990 for the last week, and today, he still won’t give up. He still feels we can do it. AND SO DO I!!!!!!

      As A.S. would say “MTL Stand Up”

      Jim-out.

      I BELIEVE!

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Nash isn’t ready for the show. Markov is still a great defencemen and has a lot to offer MTL under the right contract. His ability to control the game is rare in the NHL, even at a reduced level of his old abilities he brings a lot. We do need size but running out to free agency to solve issues hasn’t worked for anyone in many years. Montreal did well to recruit Gionta and Cammalleri, but other UFA contracts have not.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Nice! Great logic, love to see it happen, SF09.
      Enjoy tonight.
      Cheers

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    While i agree it would be great to have gomez salary buried in Hamilton next year, I don’t think there is any way Gauthier could ever get approval for that from G. Molson. Too much of the money used to buy this team was leveraged/borrowed etc… He will not want to see 7Million paid to a guy in Hamilton. And as much as I loved Gainey as our GM, Gainey still has influence in the Mgmt and that would make him look bad. Again, I would love to see his salary buried, but no way it happens.

    By the way, I have tried all season not to bash Gomez, but watching so many Bruins forwards all series skate untouched to the net with him a step behind has caused me to finally accept reality.

    • Natty-Dread says:

      Very tough to bury a salary like that, your right on. If we took him, then somebody else out there might be willing to take a chance, especially at his reduced salary over the next 2 years. If we could unload him for – anything really – then we would could re-up price and subban with decent cash.
      Watching him play on saturday was good/brutal – good because he wasn’t getting as much ice time, and you could see him getting mad about it – and brutal, because he couldn’t control the puck for shit, and was basically ineffectual. Watching other habs when hes with them on the ice – its like nobody wants to give him the puck anymore because he loses it, gets crushed, misses the net…. And he can’t keep up his D-coverage 80% of the time which very often leads to a goal. More than anything, I would be happy if he were no longer a liability on the ice. Who cares if he can’t score, just make sure nobody scores on US and i’ll be happy.

  24. habs001 says:

    while it will not be fair the hockey world will state regurlarly all next year that price is a question mark in the playoffs if we lose tues

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Let the hockey world think that, we all know that the reason we are not winning this series is lack of finish and defensive breakdowns. Price has played very good/great.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        Just for the record, and I was a big basher of Price last year (didn’t think he was ready, which he wasn’t) he has been excellent in the playoffs and has matured greatly and deserves nothing but praise given the dog’s breakfast team in front of him.

        Go Habs!

    • Mark C says:

      That’s crazy talk, he has a .938 SV% as the underdog team’s goalie, also he’s only played one bad round that was meaningful.

    • Propwash says:

      It’s the easy thing to do.

    • Bill J says:

      Yeah – some fools have already started by re-writing history.

      Claiming “Price has never won a game in Montreal during the playoffs”

      Which of course is BS (re: Never) – agreed it’s been a while. He has indeed won 3 in Montreal.

      First 2 in round one of the 2007-08 playoffs + the Game 7 shutout in that same series.

    • The Cat says:

      Well until he goes to the conference finals, hes not as good as you know who. And the team in front of Price is supposedly better than last years’ too.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Bill J says:

        Yes it is – but more “key” injuries then this point last year Cat.

        IE Gorges was helping Gill Block more shots then Halak was (on some nights it seemed)

        That is a HUGE difference to this teams game.

        • LL says:

          “You know who” also had the luxury of Markov against Caps and a red-hot Cammy for both series..

          • The Cat says:

            Habs scored 17 against caps, its 12 goals for vs the bruins so far and 2 games left possibly so its a wash.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • LL says:

            I’m too tired to check so I believe you. Based on this, you are right, “you know who” is the best. ;)

          • showey47 says:

            Habs scored 20 against the caps last year. We had 14 after 5 games last year,probably enough to win this series in 5.

          • LL says:

            That is great Showey, based on fact and not bias.

      • showey47 says:

        And with “you know who” as our #1 goalie instead of price we would have fell well short of a playoff spot this year.

  25. habs001 says:

    pk on sportnet adv that sometimes your 3rd and 4th line players have to produce like they have for other teams in the playoffs…the bruins third line of peverley,kelly and ryder has way better odds that they will out score our third line…. most post have been positive after a game regarding the play of our third and fourth lines ..eller,pyatt etc …but if they just play well and never produce that is not much of a help to the team…basically our 1st and 2nd lines have to out score 3 bruin lines

  26. HABZ24 says:

    habs played afraid last game. afraid to make a mistake.they should come out running and gunning.dont play the bruins bottle it up defense style.mostly shoot the fn puck at the net crash for rebounds.gomez never ever shoots at the bloody net. we cant sit back get hit and be afraid to get hit we gotta play our skate skate shoot game.if we sit on our heels like the last game were cooked.

  27. HardHabits says:

    The game has passed Gomez buy IMO. It’s not his athletic abilities. It’s his lack of hockey sense that is killing him. If he played smarter and could shoot better he’d be a dominant force out there with his skating and passing skills.

    His regular season stats are atrocious:
    7G, 31A, 38Pts, -15

    His current playoff stats are no better:
    0G, 3A, 3Pts, -3

    Brent Sopel, Jaroslav Spacek, Brian Gionta, and Scott Gomez are all minus 3 and bottom out the team in that category.

    IMO Sopel and Spacek need to be split up. Or put Mara in Spacek’s stead.

    I would also move Gionta away from Gomez and put Gomez with Pyatt and Moen as a checking line against the Krejci line.

    The big issue here is the same thing that killed the Habs with their goaltender conundrums of the past. How many coaches have been caught between an established net-minder and an unproven new comer who the coach has a hunch about?

    Alain Vigneault replaced by Michel Therrien because he wanted to play Jose Theodore over Jeff Hackett.
    Claude Julien replaced by Bob Gainey because he wanted to play Cristobal Huet over Jose Theodore.
    Guy Carbonneau replaced by Bob Gainey because he wanted to play Jaroslav Halak over Carey Price.

    So they got it right last season. Where am I going with this. It’s not about Price and Auld. It’s about Gomez. They are in a hands tied situation because Gomez is the big trade impact centre and Gionta is the captain and Cammy came along for the smurf patrol duties yadda yadda yadda.

    This has happened all season and nobody said boo because Gomez is this big play-off performer. Well. He had one good game. Don Cherry gushed. Gomez went back into hibernation.

    There’s an analogy in there and I leave it up to you to decipher it.

    • punkster says:

      Not so sure about any analogies there but your point is, quite simply, Gomez sucks. Your solution is put him with Pyatt and Moen. The problem then becomes with DD out and Pouliot sucking donkey gonads, who fills in and what good will it do?

      We haven’t the horses required if the entire lineup gets shifted to remedy the Gomez problem. Our only hope is that Gomez does show up and both Gionta and Cammy start scoring. So far Gomez has not produced but burying him on the 3rd or 4th line will guarantee he won’t.

      Just my opinion ;)

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  28. dhenry1234 says:

    HAB FANS LISTEN UP!!!

    We know we’re the most intense fans in the NHL! Those damn Bruins are in OUR building tomorrow night! Karma is on our side because of what Chara did to Max! I want Les Canadiens 7th man known as THE FANS to GO CRAZY! LIKE NOTHING SEEN BEFORE!!! I want to hear 21 273 INTENSE fans to BOO the bruins EVERYTIME THEY TOUCH THE PUCK. Booing Chara is fine but he can handle it. Do you really think everyone on the Bruins could handle it? GO CRAZY EVERY TIME MONTREAL TOUCHES THE PUCK REGARDLESS OF THE SCORE! I’ve seen a team come back from being down 5-0 before! It ain’t over until it’s over! It’s time for us to prove that we trully are a 7th man on the ice! SPREAD THIS MOVEMENT! EVERYONE GO NUTS! GO HABS GO!!! IMAGINE A GAME WHERE THE BRUINS CAN’T HEAR ANYTHING ON THE ICE BECAUSE OF THE BOOS! GO HABS GO! Those damn bruins fans were chanting habs suck. Time to show them up! GO HABS GO!!!

  29. VancouverHab says:

    I wonder if this article at Sportsnet.ca by Mike Brophy can make us feel a little better about Scott Gomez’s contract? (I.e. besides his relative inexpensivity, Gomez stands out from the players discussed in actually having won the Cup…and twice.

    Damning with faint praise, I know, but it’s an off day….

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/04/25/brophy_on_luongo/

    Whilst I’m here, if DD is good to go, we have a fair chance tomorrow.

  30. pmaraw says:

    is price the next luongo?

    • 24moreCups says:

      Are you trying to say that Price doesn’t show up in the playoffs?

      • VancouverHab says:

        I think that he is. We’ll find out.

        But he isn’t early into a contract so gargantuan that it can’t been fully perceived from ground level….

        • 24moreCups says:

          If we are eliminated from the playoffs I don’t think it would be fair to put the blame on Price or to say he doesn’t show up for the playoffs.

          Price has been nothing but solid, but it’s not over yet we’ll see what happens tomorrow.

          And here’s a state that someone else posted that I thought was interesting.(I don’t usually like to compare Price and Halak.)

          “After game 5 last year, Halak had made 123 saves on 135 shots.
          -.911 SVP

          After game 5 this year, Price has made 165 saves on 176 shots.
          -.938 SVP.”

          • VancouverHab says:

            Just for the record, I think that Price is great. I just referred to the (doubtless unfair) fact that one has to be on a winning playoff team to be counted as a playoff winner.

            Luongo on the other hand has positively choked in the playoffs — not so Price so far.

    • LL says:

      Price is not the next Luongo. Price is an elite franchise goalie in the making. 29 other teams drool over him. No one drools over Luongo or his contract. If you want to judge on playoffs alone, I think you should wait until, other than Price and PK, there are some star forwards as well on the team. Max fits that bill but is presently not playing, in case you have forgotten.

  31. notjusttrash says:

    On the ongoing subject about cap space:

    What do you guys think about the idea of “Wade Reddening” Gomer’s contract? Another 3 years of that cap hit is awful. We spend the money elsewhere, and if some other team gets really desperate for a center and has cash to burn, we unload him for next to nothing and stop worrying.

    If was Gauthier the only thing that would stop me from this sort of move would be the impact it would have on Gio’s morale.

    Think of what you could do with that 7.3 million of cap space? Two good (not great) 2nd and 3rd line forwards? Prucha, Kopecky, Frolov, Ponikarovsky, Cole, Zherdev, Jokinen (Jussi), Sullivan, Hejduk, Upshall, Kobasew… I dunno, a tonne of other guys? Just pick any two of them and give them both 3.5 million and you’re still saving a few hundred k off Gomez.

    Keep Calm and Carey On

    • habsoul says:

      Good God, the Habs would be overjoyed to unload Gomer for next to nothing but there’s no GM dumb enough to do that. He’s a Hab for three more years—unless he falls on his sword and retires.

      As for the salary cap conversation, I don’t know why people are including Pouliot. He’s gone—probably to Nashville where he’ll score 30 goals playing on a line with Sergei Kostitsyn, who scored more goals than his brother Andrei this past season.

      Wiz is gone as well. Some team will overpay after his breakout offensive production. I love Markov but I would rather spend the money on a younger FA such as Joni Pitkanen. The team will get some relief from retiring the Hammer’s contract but it will get soaked up by raises for RFAs Pacioretty, Pyatt, Desharnais, Webber, and White. Gorges will get a raise as well.

      What we do have to look forward to is the continued development of our young players—Subban, Price (who’s only 23), Desharnais, Eller, and Pacioretty. Maybe try to get Brock Trotter and Alex Emelin back from the KHL and see if the can add anything to the mix.

      There are rumors that Zack Parise won’t get a contract extension because of the salary cup hell that exists in New Jersey. If that happens and the Devils don’t file for arbitration, the Habs should free up as much cap room as possible and give him an offer sheet that New Jersey won’t be able to match.

      • notjusttrash says:

        Yeah, but if he starts the season in the minors and never gets called up, he never hits the cap… it’s money out of the organization’s pocket, sure, but he doesn’t stay a cap hit.

        He can just go to Hamilton games in a limo or somthing.

        Keep Calm and Carey On

    • LA Loyalist says:

      You have to be a bit more selective. Ponikarovsky got bench down here and was a dud on leafs they were lucky to get rid of him. Jokinen? No… we don’t need to make ANOTHER mistake. Rather have draft pics and be patient. But yes, of course Gomer has be Goner.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      You have to be a bit more selective. Ponikarovsky got bench down here and was a dud on leafs they were lucky to get rid of him. Jokinen? No… we don’t need to make ANOTHER mistake. Rather have draft pics and be patient. But yes, of course Gomer has to be Goner.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      The only issue is who’s the UFA? teams that look to solve their problems the UFA rout often see it backfire. The Cup teams got to where they are because of who they drafted over who they bought in UFA, with the exception of the 2007 Ducks getting Niedermayer (and even then, they only got him because they had drafted his brother).

      Habs need to be very good at this year’s draft to keep going on the right path IMO.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Mark C says:

      He needs another shot, a year ago he was still an effective and good NHL player (not $7.3M good), but he was a solid #2 center. There is no reason to think that he can’t rebound to being a 15-50 guy again. The rope is starting to get much shorter…

  32. Bugs says:

    I think we are in the process of being screwed. Started 3 games ago. We’re past stupid luck and into the super-bonkers, slap-yourself-in-the-face crazy spit now. I can’t get over it.
    I’ve seen enough to know we have the better team in these playoffs. Bruins have absolutely no clue what’s goin on. Heads in the clouds. Only Bergeron and Marchand have come to play far as I’m concerned. And before anyone starts touting Thomas and the Save of his Career, please; Gio missed the damned shot. He had the whole damn side open. He shot it into the damn goalie. A double-bounce, super-lucky, here’s-an-open-net-for-you shot later, and we lose, and I’m like “you know what? This is some effin BULL-spit, man.”
    Did I cry 2 years ago when the Bruins swept us in 4 straight? Hell, no. We stank. And we’d been stinkin loooooooong before the Bruins showed up to face us in the playoffs, despite what they wanna believe. Stick to the point though: We deserved to lose then.
    But this time, it’s ridiculous how better our team is than theirs, even in crunch time. What’s happening now is a friggin travesty and one which we will refer to our grandchildren as the Uber-Screwjob of the Millenium, or, The Day Jebus Stopped Believing in Good, if it becomes manifest.
    Because I don’t know what to believe in anymore and I fear this whole affair may leave me believin in nuthin, and that’s a frightening thing. Cuz I’m a big believer, baby. I love to believe in stuff.
    So for next game, I call a hat-trick for my boy. I mean, at this point, what the hell, right?

    Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

    • smiley says:

      Deharnais out for game 6-TSN.

    • The Cat says:

      I agree with Bergeron and marchand, Ill even go and say Bergeron appears to be the only one capable of thought when with the puck.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Chuck says:

      As I said yesterday, the Habs need to do a better job in checking S. Happens (I think that he wears #7).

      He’s really been a thorn in their side since about the middle of game 3.

    • 44har48 says:

      Easy Bugs…step back from the ledge. Seriously, I’m with you, but there are two more games left. Let’s see who wins the 4th game first. Then I’ll jump with you if it doesn’t turn out right.

    • naweed235 says:

      LOL my feelings exactly… after the loss of game 5 I was so down… SOOOO DOWN that I lost hope in Karma… and a superior being … good thing my gf was there to slap me out of it !

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      You forgot the most salient piece of evidence: Michael Ryder. Not that he is playing great, but why is he suddenly transformed into a pretty good player?

      Pact with the devil is the only answer.

      • Bugs says:

        Ryder hasn’t “elevated”; Ryder is the same Ryder over there as he was here. Got nuthin against’m.
        He scored a hat-trick the ultimate game against the leafs we lost 4-5 years ago when Huet played instead of Halak (but, to be fair, I had no problem with the decision at the time; only later did I realize how stupid it was, of course).
        And he scored 2 in the Comeback. (But technically, 3, since his third deviated slightly off Streit’s skate going hard to the net if you remember.)
        Point is: big, huge, pressure-filled games; no reason to doubt his ability to bring it. Guy’s a sniper and nothing else; well, he’s snipin. Got nuthin against the goals he scored.
        Just pissed at the pizz-garbage luck that manufacture his team’s opportunities to cash said goals in.

        Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

  33. observer says:

    Re: next year’s Rangers cap- read story – Drury seems to them what Gomez is to Habs. Both players, old GMs of yesterday paid or acquired. Guys who have had the game pass them by and not smart enough or sharp enough to play the game in the salary cap era – Sather, Gainey and Gauthier all pushing 60s now.

    Note- whatever space Habs have in their situation will be mostly have to be used to resign the defense or replace defensemen lost. Stuck with Spacek another year and if they are dumb enough to resign Hamrlck it will be even worse.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/cap_crunch_VQ4nIbawqyRGRrRRCu7J6M

    • joshua94k says:

      Don’t speak to soon about Gainey/Gauthier. Two weeks ago everyone was praising the magement of Vanvouver and Philadelphia, and if they lose, all of a sudden are they incompetent GMs? Everyone was praising Steve Yzerman but his team may lose to a Crosby-Malkin less Penguins team.

      The Canadiens made the play-offs because of Gainey/Gauthier. They added Wisniewski, Paccioretty, Desharnais, White, Eller etc. All good young players any team would love to have, when so many key players got injured.

      Look at Boston without Chara. The Flyers without Pronger. Then look at how the Canadiens continue to make the play-offs and compete in every game.

      “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Next summer we will have roughly $33M in cap space, and need to sign:

        F: AK46, Pouliot, Max Pac, White, DD

        D: Markov, Wiz, Gorges, Gill, Weber

        I am guessing these players will cost 21.5M based on reasonable raises for the RFAs and market value for the UFAs (e.g. Markov for 5.5, Wiz for 4).

        This would leave us about 11-12M to sign 3 forwards and a backup keeper.

        Now if we keep Darche, Pyatt and Halpern at forward for a combined $2M and spenc 1.2M on a backup, this leaves us up to 8-9M to splash out on a good free agent.

        Our D would be set meaning we should try to get another scoring forward.

        Here is who is available.

        http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/tag/2011-nhl-free-agents/

        • notjusttrash says:

          So with Markov and Wiz paid you think that we’d be able to sign AK, Pouliot, Patches, White, DD, Gorges, Gill and Weber for a combined 12 million dollars of cap space? That’s 8 players for 12 million, so like, 1.5 per player.

          UNPOSSIBLE.

          Keep Calm and Carey On

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Most are RFAs.

            Pouliot can’t expect a raise. Patches, White, DD, and Weber are non-arbitration eligible RFAs – so they get a 10% raise.

        • Steven says:

          I don’t know about you guys, but Gagne interests me for next year.

          His season’s been this side of dismal(Last I checked anyway) so I think he can be had for substantially less than the 5.5 or so mill he made this season. You never know, he might be the sparkplug to our offense

        • since1988 says:

          I would predict the following salaries for player
          Markov – 5M
          Wiz – 4.5M
          Gorges – 4M (basically same contract as Robidas)
          Gill – 2.5M
          AK – 3.5M
          MaxPac – 3M
          BP – 2.5 to 3M
          DD – 2M or less
          White – 2M or less

          That would total $29M and still leave the team $4million under the cap which would be used towards Darche (who i think deserves to stay and a raise) Pyatt and Halpren or other depth fowards. This wouldn’t leave the team with much room. However if the team can stay healthy i dont see why they cant compete look at the makeshift D we have now Markov and Gorges would automatically make us better and allow PK to play less minutes maybe then being able to play more PP minutes or take more risks and rush the puck b/c he wont have to conserve energy to play 28 mins a game
          “I savour it every day, sometimes before practice I’m skating around and I’ll look at the logo on my jersey – I’m playing for the Canadiens!”
          – Mathieu Darche

          • notjusttrash says:

            Benny’s money is better spent elsewhere/anywhere, like on sticks or bags of pucks… maybe cute shovel girls like in Chicago?

            Keep Calm and Carey On

          • Mark C says:

            Most of those numbers look good but, Benny will be around $1.5M, DD $1M, and White $1M. Now if the player gets a long-term deal (unlikely with those guys) it could change things.

          • habmanj says:

            I hope you are not negotiating the contracts :)

            AK hasn’t earned a raise …nor MaxPac (yes I know he looked good but give him a full year before you knock him up a salary tier) …your overpaying for Wiz but that will probably be offset by the paycut you gave Markov. Why is BP doubling his salary – have you seen something we’ve all missed??? DD and White should both also check in well under 2m.

          • ManApart says:

            Why are we just resigning the same team as this season? Do you understand same players means same results? The goal is upgrading, improving, becoming a contender. Not treading water like we’ve been doing for 7 years.

        • FLHABSFAN says:

          Next years team will look something like this…

          D already signed:
          Spacek: 3.833M
          Subban 0.875M

          who i expect will be resigned:
          Gorges: 4M
          Weber: 1M
          Markov: 6M
          Wiz: 4.5M

          total: 20.2M

          Question Marks:
          Hammer
          Gill
          Picard
          Sopel
          Mara

          Fowards currently signed:
          Gomez: 7.357M
          Cammi: 6M
          Pleks:5M
          Gionta:5M
          Moen: 1.5M
          Eller: 0.787M

          Who i expect to be resigned:
          Pacman: 2M
          Pyatt: 0.75M
          Darche: 0.75M
          White: 0.75M
          DD: 1M
          AK: 3.5M

          Total: 34.4M

          Question Marks:
          BP
          Halpern

          Goalies:
          Price: 2.75M
          Backup: 1.5M

          Total: 4.25M

          Grand Total is 58.85M Spent
          The expected cap is supposed to be around 62M which doesn’t leave much room for negotiating. The interesting part of the off-season will be the team’s decision of what to do with AK. The only other way i can see us bringing in another top 6 winger is by not signing Wiz. With Markov back the loss of Wiz is lessened and by not signing him, the habs could free up around an extra 2M (2.5M to replace Wiz to get back to 6 Dmen).

          Pac Gomez Gio
          ? Pleks Cammi
          AK Eller Darche
          Moen DD White

          Pyatt

          Markov Spacek
          Subban Gorges
          Wiz ?

          Weber

      • ManApart says:

        @Josh94K

        ” look at how the Canadiens continue to make the play-offs and compete in every game.”

        What the hell, are we the Nashville Predators?!?! Making the playoffs and competeing is for losers. Winning Cups is for Winners. It’s cool in year 1, 2 ,3 because you’re improving from a non playoff team. By year 7 and 8 if you’re still talking about bubbling playoffs and competeing, you don’t deserve to win.

  34. habs001 says:

    game 4 the habs played as well as they can and were leading 3-1 and still lost…bad feeling same thing happens tuesday …we will dominate boston but at best have only a two goal lead in the second despite many chances and boston gets a goal in the second on a bad d play, fluke or price lets a bad one in…third we have a one goal lead but try to hang on to the lead and boston gets a late goal so we are in o/t again…for 2 years how many games when over posters posted the opposition goalie had a career game or was so lucky….i think it has much more to do with the many incompetent forwards we have who lack goal scoring ability

    • 44har48 says:

      I agree that the habs simply do not have enough competent goal scorers at the pro level yet. You can point to differant things losing differant games, but overall, that is the issue and has been for a while. I think this is the best position Montreal has been in, in years from pro to minors, but still a little weak.

      I’m hopeful we have size and skill coming with Enqvist, Avtsin, Max, etc and will help considerably over Pyatt, Darche, etc

  35. observer says:

    Changing the topic:

    If anyone watches FOX’s ‘Fringe’ series, last Friday night in a scene in the lab in the “parallel universe”, a radio broadcast of a baseball game is heard in the background with the Expos playing against the Dodgers.

  36. newbrunswick troy says:

    I think it is fair to say that for the Bruins to win four straight games against the Habs, that would expose this teams core as being way too soft, and that said another major shake up would be in order!
    Not just an excuse here or there like “we don,t have Markov” but more like a reality check like “Is this the best system for these players” or maybe “Is this experiment with small fast forward done? ”
    Eitherway Tuesday should be a nail chewing good time!

    • THEFLOWERFOREVER says:

      They need tweaking not an over haul, no reason to ride them because of a few overtime losses, they have a good nucleus. Hamrlik gone, Gomez to Hamilton and sign a big forward or two and we’ll be all right. Hurst watching Lappy on for half of the overtime last night…he may be a bit of a head case but he would be helping out right now…

      GOHABSGO

    • ManApart says:

      Well said. If the Habs lose tomorrow, I think it is very fair to say, Gainey and Gauthier’s hockey philosophy as well as their judgement has been exposed as misguided and they must be fired and replaced with some fresh, new, young talent who understands todays game. Those guys are stuck in the pre lockout era. Along with Martin they are still trying to recreate the 2000 Devils. I’ve known for 2 years that management was largely incompetent, and had no shot at getting us to where we want to go. Ever since Gainey called Carbo his best move, and then stabbing him in the back, by firing him a few months later, followed by leading the team to hell down the stretch and into a 4 game sweep by the Bruins. but when Gainey said that “you don’t need size in the playoffs” this past all-star break, that sealed the deal.

      • Steven says:

        I hate to take anything away from the two(I actually like a couple of their moves, believe it or not) but I still believe the rebuild didn’t really have any form of guidance. I think they just threw stuff at the wall and saw what stuck. They got Gomez as the center because he was probably on the block, and the rest of the players from the rebuild were free agent pickups, so I don’t think there was a huge plan to it.

        On the bright side, It’s looking like at least some of it is coming together. Add the not too many missing pieces and we’re set.

        • mrhabby says:

          the rebuild to me was based on.

          1..trying to acquire vinny. almost happened and

          2. since no vinny they went to option (see below)

          3.they targeted Gomez and Gionta history together and since no Kovy they needed a sniper in Camms. for me there was guidance or call it whatever you want. it was also about changing the culture in the room.

          • Steven says:

            Yeah, I forgot about that Vinny part.

            But the rest does seem a little without premeditation. They probably saw Gionta on the free agent’s list and said: “Ah, what the hell, let’s try Gomez” or something, and Cammy wouldn’t be in Montreal if Kovy had accepted(Thank the good lord)

            But I guess there is more thought to it than I credited them with.

          • ManApart says:

            They traded for Gomez and then signed Cammy. Only when Kovy hesitated did they sign Gionta. If Kovy accepted right away, there would be no Gio. There was no original plan to trade for Gomez to reunite him with Gio. That was plan B, when Kovy gave in a counter offer.

        • ManApart says:

          Nobody is all bad. There were some good moves of course. Just saying, all in all, they won’t take us to the Cup. 7 full years should be enough, especially in this town.

          I agree with you 100% about how I don’t think there was much of a plan for the 2nd rebuild 2 years ago. I was thinking it then. They kinda went for Vinny, dangling Price and Gorges, then that didn’t work, so got desperate and traded for Gomez. Then spent all their money going after the top free agents of that year. Keeping an eye on speed and durability. It all seemed very rushed and last minute. Not thought through very well, especially at how it affected the Cap. A little bit Mickey Mouse.

          Although it hasn’t turned out too bad, especially because of some of the youngsters, it certainly isn’t going to make you a contending team.

    • THEFLOWERFOREVER says:

      I think the ‘small forwards’ issue is over done, are they really the problem. Gomez yes but Gio, Pleks and Cammy are all fantastic players and don’t get pushed around enough to be a problem. Pouliot’s a nice big forward and we know how he plays. You can have some small forwards and have success which they have had a lot of since the re-build. I just think the whole thing gets over-done. Speed can win a lot of games the way the playoffs are played nowadays…

      Powerplay needs work, they panic and can’t control the puck, more than once I’ve wished for Kovalev just on the PP, he could slow the whole game down….watch how many times PK winds up at the wrong time from the back foot with 5 bruins in front of him, they need more control!

      GOHABSGO

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Philly is on the brink because they’re missing Chris Pronger and have an ongoing goaltending crisis. We’re short our power forward and two of our top defencemen. Their scoring is arguably twice as potent as ours as well.

      I’d say if anything, this is what the playoffs look like when your team is missing players it can’t afford to be missing. CHI might have won this series in 6 if Bolland had been ready from Game 1. ANA might have won their series with Hiller, LAK might be leading the Kings if they had Kopitar. Penguins would have finished 1st overall in the league with Crosby and Malkin and finished the Rangers in 4. Buffalo might have won the series if Derek Roy was ready from game 1.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • ManApart says:

        All speculation and conjecture. It is irrelevant. Maybe this would happen, maybe that would happen, maybe nothing would happen. Maybe if Boston had Savard and a healthy Chara, they win in 5. Maybe Markov and Gorges don’t make a big difference taking away Wiz and Sopel, taking into account Savard and Chara. Maybe it’s basically the same. It’s really pointless to speculate. You have to deal with what is. if Habs lose, we must stop management’s regime from going into it’s 8th year. Enough is enough.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          Completely relevant. When a team is missing players that are part of their core, it’s very difficult to make much happen in the playoffs. It was a miracle they got around the Penguins without Markov last year. Look at the teams who win the Stanley Cup, their top players are generally all healthy and contributing. The teams that face injuries and don’t get key players back don’t mount scrappy runs to the SC and win it, they just lose because no team has a glut of star prospects who can jump off the farm and make the difference up.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

          • ManApart says:

            The point is, you can’t hang on excuses. Wiz and Sopel, were very adequate replacements for the two. At least 75%. It’s a cop out. Nobody knows what would happen in a hypothetical scenerio. There will most likely be some key injuries every year to most teams. So let’s use that as an excuse and placate ourselves for losing. Wrong. If Philly loses, you think they’ll say, “Oh, well, if we had Pronger we win in 6. Next year we’ll be healthy and go all the way. Not our fault. Bad luck.” Of course not. That’s loser talk. You step up or go home. If Habs don’t step up, time for Molson to send some people home. This isn’t year 1 or 2. it’s year 7.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Wisniewski would never, ever be mistaken for Andrei Markov when it comes to the defensive side of rhe game and unlike Sopel, Gorges can be a TOI leader in a game without people worrying about multiple GA. A 25% gap in talent is everything in the NHL playoffs when it comes to filling two key positions on defence. Beyond Subban and arguably Gill, the Habs lack defencemen in the playoffs right now who can be solid contributors no matter how much TOI they pile up, rather than at least 3 last year (Markov, Gorges, Gill) in Round 1 and then Subban, Gorges and Gill in Round 2.

            PHI fans will say that as well. It may be ‘loser talk’ but in the Cap Era, one of your top players being out can mean 1st-round exit or a Cup. Pronger has been the difference for PHI this year, when he’s out, they struggle and when he’s in, they excel.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

        • Mark C says:

          Don’t forget Max, who was scoring at a 31 goal pace with Montreal this year and killed Boston. You are right in that it’s all maybe this, or maybe that. But a healthy Markov, Max-Pac, and Gorges is lights years better than Marc Savard (who hasn’t been good since the Cooke hit).

          The Wiz likely covers 75-80% of Markov’s value and Sopel is probably the same with Gorges. Montreal has no replacement for what they lost in Max.

    • Mark C says:

      No, I don’t think so. Had Ryder not made that save and had the puck bounced a foot off of Sopel’s skate instead of sitting there for Kelly, would it be fair to say that this team is unquestionably NOT soft?

  37. Dennis says:

    Showing my Habs wall again. Maybe you haven’t seen it. And yes, I’m proud of it. http://dennis-kane.com/hello-wall/

    When I’m owner/stickboy, things will be different.
    http://dennis-kane.com/

  38. RJ says:

    Scott Gohhmezzz will earn his whole annual salary in one game — game 6 tomorrow night at the Bell. Get ready for the game of his year!!

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  39. notjusttrash says:

    Bored at work, made the following analysis of the possible resigns next year: http://50moretrash.blogspot.com/2011/04/montreal-canadiens-cap-situation-next.html

    Keep Calm and Carey On

    • shiram says:

      Stopped reading at Markov 3million/year for 2 years, as that is not happening.

      • notjusttrash says:

        Too much or too little?

        How much can an (admittedly) all-star defensemen get when he’s played 52 games in the past 2 seasons? I think it’ll be a season or two of low-cash to prove he’s not a liability.

        Keep Calm and Carey On

        • shiram says:

          I’d say too little. I agree that term will likely be 1 to 3 years, but salary likely won’t take too much of a hit, if the team still wants him on board.
          You are just about halving his salary there at 3 million per. And I’m sure other teams would be willing to take a gamble on him.
          Maybe I’m just being wishful, but I think the team will retain him, and I would not be surprised to have his salary in the 4.75 million to 5.75 million range.
          We have Hamrlik probably coming off the books, and thats 5.5 million of cap space to pass around.
          Gill, Spacek, Markov another veteran D maybe Gorges, and our younger D with Subban, Weber. 7th is up in the air.

          Actually would be interested in what others think he could command in salary. The D situation is an interesting one here, considering we aquired 3 this year that are not signed for next season.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I do think Markov will give the patented home team discount, but that is probably 5% less than what other teams offer. The one thing about signing Markov, if it is a 5mill.+ per year contract and he blows his knee again, it won’t hurt the cap. If the guy plays we all know he is great. I really would hate to give up on him. Our real problem is being handcuffed with Spatch’s contract and Gomez. The only thing good about Gomez contract is it starts to tail off soon and may become attractive to a southern team that gets to pay little but reach salary floor. Maybe he can be a winger for Rick Nash some day. (and then watch him flourish lol)

          • Sakus Evil Twin says:

            Gotta think he’ll be offered one year at 5mil. I don’t see a multi year offer after the past couple of years.

            No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

    • Steven says:

      I like the way you thought this out, but I have to say the forward unit isn’t exactly promising for one reason…

      Our biggest problem this year is that our offense can’t find ways to score goals(as put in evidence by being 25th in the league in scoring). Bringing back the same unit doesn’t sound like such a good idea, unless the 4.5 we have left gets us something good

      • notjusttrash says:

        Yeah, the problem there is that the small fast forwards that are part of the problem are all under contract. The bigger younger guys (Eller and Patches mainly) are going to pay off big time I think with another year under their belt, imagine a whole season of Eller playing the way he did on Saturday?

        Plus: With that lineup, A LOT of chances will be coming from the D with PK, Markov and Wiz all 3 pairings are an offensive threat.

        Keep Calm and Carey On

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs Future is not going to be published today, or possibly again for this season. Evaluating what’s left on the report, I personally don’t feel like trying to build Three Stars out of what’s left, it’s Palushaj with a 5-point week and that’s just about it.

    I honestly don’t think I can justify a report based on lack of personnel compared to what was the ‘bar’ for making 3 Stars/Worthy mentions and the like. I am starting work on my planned summer features of a Review of the prospects, Draft day Targeting and after the draft occurs, a review.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thanks for all those updates all season long. It is really appreciated! Dawes also had a nice finish to the 1st round of playoffs. I hope to go to either Game 1 or 2 of this next round. I am guessing no chance we see Tinordi in Hamilton next year. I look forward to seeing our next up and rising defencemen. Recognize he has a long way to go, but we so need having a real presence/physical edge dman.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Tinordi will spend a 2nd season in the OHL, and maybe as much as two more in the AHL after that. The best hope for a physical D out of the system right now would be Alexei Yemelin coming over from the KHL.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Yah thats an interesting crapshoot Gauthier has. Do you risk a one way contract to get the guy over here? I am guessing no way in the world Yemelin comes over without guarantees up the ying yang for playing time etc….

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            He wants a guarantee that if the Habs try to put him in the AHL, his contract is voided and he can go back to the KHL and I say the Habs should swallow that pill. By nature his EL deal as a first-year NA player means two-way, but he wants the guarantee he’s not getting buried.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • shiram says:

      Thank you for your hard work, and providing us with greatly detailled reports on the future for the team.

    • Top Corner says:

      Look forward to it SF09 !! Great work this season !!

      GO HABS GO !!!!!

    • Strabo says:

      Great job, and I look forward to your upcoming features. thanks and keep up the good work!

      “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

    • LA Loyalist says:

      thank you Serious. Your work gives us hope and perspective, as opposed to heartburn :)

      One lesson we need to learn – Ducks gone without Hiller, though Emery was pretty good, Ellis is a dud. We need a good backup for Price, irrespective of what happens in these playoffs. Do we have any good kids coming up in goalie dept or do we need to target a vet?

      And G*d I hope we get Yemelin.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I’m becoming less and less enthused about Mayer after he failed to get any real playing time for most of the season in the AHL, but I have to say, I really like what Peter Delmas is showing in the ECHL right now (Albeit, Mayer looked good in the ECHL playoffs last year too…) but Delmas may be a rising name in the organization. Petteri Simila didn’t do much in Finland this year and the Habs must sign him this year to continue to hold his NHL playing rights.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • G-Man says:

      Great job SF09- your efforts are appreciated by all fans of the Habs who need to know what’s going on with the next wave of Habs players.

    • Steven says:

      Thanks for all the updates, SF! It was really handy and informative for those of us who are interested in what the farm has to offer.

      I just have one more question for you: Where do you project Palushaj’s ceiling is? Can he become an effective top 6 or is that above him?

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I don’t think the Top 6 is in his future, he doesn’t seem like he’ll be able to hit the strength level that would really let him bull his way through and at the same time I don’t think his offensive game is that strong. I think he’s a 3rd-line type, he can provide scoring support but he shouldn’t be expected to be a star.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  41. Bob Barker says:

    I hope Gomez has a huge game for the Habs tomorrow. He’s still able to, he did it in Game 1.

    With DD and potentially Wiz out, they definitely need him to step up. Hopefully he answers the bell.

  42. lukas-joshua says:

    Also why don’t JM put Ryan White on one of the top lines???? The guy goes to the net, and he’s a work horse.

    • avatar_58 says:

      Why not? Everyone else has had a go.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Not exactly a sniper is he?

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      The truth is, we just don’t have the personnel to form two coherent lines. I would like to see the organization throw some money at an RFA like Andrew Ladd. I think a top 6 of Ladd Plekanec and Cammalleri followed up by Pacioretty Gionta and one of Desharnais or Eller would be a marked improvement. A third line of the remaining center from Desharnais or Eller with a combo of Darche Kostitsyn and Pouliot would provide secondary scoring. Of course this is based on an assumption of unloading Gomez. Maybe he and some picks/prospects get you Ladd’s rights. I dont know what ‘rights to negotiate’ are going for these days. Atlanta will be near the cap basement, but i don’t think they’ll want to spend what they’ll have to to keep Ladd.

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      He prefers Gomez.

  43. lukas-joshua says:

    Just think about how good our D could look next year, if we make the right moves.

    Subban Markov

    Jaro Wiz

    Gill Georges

    Webber

  44. To the Montreal fan trapped in Niagara Falls: maybe u should stay there!! In all your wisdom can you tell us why Connolly didn’t return after the hit????

    Bryant Mac lean

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      ‘stay there!’ good one, ass. what u mean by that i have no idea…

      anyway…. WTF does it matter if connolly returned or not? Why did he not return? Uh, gee, he was injured. just because someone is injured doesnt mean there should be a suspension. I never said he was faking, fool. Thats not the point, the sabres have been whining since the beginning and ruff sits there and bitches to the refs about everything all year every year. furthermore, he is known for this. they have their own dirty players on top of it all.

  45. I’m willing to bet that Richards won’t be suspended!! The League has been tilting the ice for years now, they know which teams they want to advance. The last team they would like to advance would be Montreal(already 24 cups). How many teams in the playoffs have had a charging penality called against them(with all the bad hits), just one, Montreal Habs!! Guess we’re special!!!

  46. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Does anyone here expect Mike Richards to be suspended for driving Connolly into the boards head first? What a hypocrate, saying that the Sabres are getting away with murder & then goes out and does something stupid like that. I guess respecting other players applies only to Subban, isn’t that right Mike?

    • wall2bay says:

      Ryan Miller agrees….

      http://www.wgr550.com/Miller-on-Richards—-Mass-Murder—/9689231

      “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      I saw the hit as it happened and the countless replays. I honestly do not feel it was a suspendable hit. The same play occurs several times a game, only the player being hit (Connolly) usually doesn’t have his head down, curled under his sternum. It was definitely boarding, but he didn’t crash into or even touch his head… and as for below, I could care less what Miller or Ruff say allllll they do is whine and complain constantly. Embarrassing they represent my hometown, reason enough not to like the Sabres.

      Edit: in case this isn’t clear, i was stating that RICHARDS didn’t crash into or touch the head of Connolly, not that Connolly didn’t hit the boards. Anyone could see that he did.

  47. C-Sword says:

    I highly doubt the Habs can win back to back games under this kind of pressure. But hey, I guess everything is possible. All I ask for as a fan is a victory at home this Tuesday, give us something to cheer for one last time. GO FOR BROKE!

    • wall2bay says:

      Did you happen to watch the playoffs last year??? Or did you become a Habs fan this year?

      They won 3 in a row versus a much better team (Capitals) and also did a back-to-back to beat the Pens.

      “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

      • shiram says:

        I agree with you, but it is a difficult task. But than the Bruins won 3 in a row, and we already have won 2 in a row in this serie, so it’s definately possible for the Habs to win game 7.

      • ManApart says:

        You do know, that if Halak was anything less than devine, that doesn’t happen. Even if he was very good, it wouldn’t have been enough. Using last season isn’t a good example, because it was a freak incident, due to the best goaltending this city has seen since 1993.

    • TPlow says:

      The Habs don’t have to win back-to-back … yet. Win game 6, then think about game 7.

      Keep the faith!

      • C-Sword says:

        They won’t have much time to think, the 7th game is the next evening. How much gas will be left in the tank? I’m not giving up on the team, I’m just saying that I’d be happy enough if they win game 6 at home in front of their fans.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but game 6 and 7 against the Caps and the Pens weren’t back-to-back games. But like I said everything is possible.

        • TPlow says:

          All I’m saying is that it’s a lot easier to think about winning one game than winning two. And Boston will be just as tired as we are come game 7. One at a time. We can still win this thing.

        • Steven says:

          You should be more worried about Game 6 than Game 7. The Habs have a bit of a history pulling stinkers after more than one day off this year, and are pretty decent on the Back-to-Back

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Well. we just have to win tomorrow night. In a game 7 anything can happen. With the crappy ice in Boston? Who knows? We just have to get there.

      By the way, why the F doesn’t the NHL fine Boston for the sh*t ice? It’s embarassing to the sport.

  48. king ddd says:

    regardless of what happens tomorrow, huge props for the boys, they made it this far with all the injuries. and i am sure there is gonna be morons blaming price, but price did what he can. who knows what would’ve happened if max,georges, marky were playing.

    how is andrew ference not suspended, isn’t he like repentant for the NHLPA, what classless as*hole. the bruins arent gonna win the cup, if they manage to beat us, the next team is gonna eat them alive.

    in point of view, it seems like most medias are rooting for the bruins i can understand the us networks, but canadian networks c’mon guys!, even the rds people are so high on bergeron than the canadiens, forget cbc/tsn they want us to fail

    as for my other team, WHOA! i saw this coming, one more game left! lets go hawks!

    GO HABS GO! GO HAWKS GO!

  49. psyko514 says:

    Any word on how serious Desharnais’ injury is? I really hope he’s able to play tomorrow.

    ____________________________________________
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xIq3NKTaww&hd=1
    All They Do Is Win (The Stanley Cup) – Deprisk

  50. notjusttrash says:

    Bruins won with a lot of luck on their side Saturday, bad bounces cost the Habs what could have been a 3 or 4 goals, easily.

    Just to throw another conspiracy theory into the mix: the soft ice covered in water during the OT? The Habs beat the Bruins with their speed and fast passing, how do you limit that? Soft ice covered in water hurts the Habs playing style a lot more than it hurts the Bruins. Just sayin’. Don’t think too much about it though, you’ll drive yourself crazy.

    Keep Calm and Carey On

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      They were just trying to maintain the ice surface at that point, Boston has historically not been very good at having good ice at the start of a game and that night was no exception. By OT, they were just trying to make sure big craters in the ice didn’t form.

      of the Original Six, BOS tends to have the 2nd-worst ice, after MSG but at least MSG has an excuse since their building is essentially used almost every night of the year so it’s hard to have a consistent ice sheet. Then again, poor ice suits their game a lot more than MTL anyway in Boston so it’s no surprise they don’t try that hard, they like dragging a game down.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • notjusttrash says:

        Oh I know I was being a conspiracy theorist, and I really don’t think it was done intentionally, but it was there, in the back of my mind being like “You know what, this hurts both teams, but hurts us more.” It was like the Heritage Classic all over again, our speed and passing game relies heavily on good ice.

        Keep Calm and Carey On

  51. HUDSONHAB says:

    Let me be realistically optimistic for a moment.
    Let’s say DD is out.
    My hope is that somehow, someway JM, Kirk or some Habs alum has gotten to Pouliot and he comes in a man possessed.
    There are game breakers on the Habs to get the job done.
    Cammi-Ak46-Gio-PK-Wiz-Eller- and the richest of them all, our Mexican/ Alaskan… Scott GOMEHZZZ!

    If all else fails, Price can win it himself with a grinder goal from Darche.

    ….Hab4life….

  52. habs365 says:

    should move Halpern at center with Gionta and Darche on the second power play–Halpern is a better scorer than Gomez and he’s also good on faceoffs…..

  53. Sakus Evil Twin says:

    Probably already discussed, but Chara, Lidstrom and Weber are Norris finalists…

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=363574

    My vote would be with Weber…

    No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

    • Mike Boone says:

      Yup, Weber. He’s a beast. And he was Josh Gorges’ defence partner in Kelowna.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger
      Gazette City columnist
      mboone@montrealgazette.com

    • wall2bay says:

      The fact that Chara and Weber play in front of 2 Vezina candidates should discount their value somewhat…….and vice versa I guess.

      So my vote goes for Lidstrom.

      “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

      • Sakus Evil Twin says:

        I would disagree… That Weber was as instrumental in playing the Nashville “system” that got them where they are puts him head and shoulders above the rest…

        No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

        • wall2bay says:

          So then Renne shouldn’t be a Vezina candidate.

          “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

          • Sakus Evil Twin says:

            Methinks you might be looking at this in binary code.
            10101010

            No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      I’d say it’s Weber’s turn as well.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Chara looks horrible in this series. He is so over-rated.

      • ed lopaz says:

        chara was clearly fighting a serious virus before game 5. he had very little energy and he was barely able to skate.

        last game we saw a little bit more of what makes Chara a candidate for the Norris.

        he was more aggressive, skating better.

        also, he plays ‘alone”.

        most great d-men have an excellent d-partner.

        after Chara, the bruins d-men are very ordinary.

        I hate the guy for what he did to Max.

        I hate the guy for getting away with it, and for lying about it.

        but he’s a dominant NHL d-man. unfortunately.

        Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  54. J Haul says:

    I hope by “therapy day” they mean wiz will watch tape of himself chasing the play to the blue line, leaving a man open down low, two games in a row now.

    • ed lopaz says:

      when Wiz “chases” the play, it is the center’s job to cover the 3rd forward – the front of the net.

      many posters on HIO blame the defence for mistakes in our defensive zone coverage.

      there are 3 opponent forwards and we have 2 defencemen and 1 center to cover them.

      even our wingers are expected to play very “actively” in the defensive zone.

      our wingers often drop away from their coverage of the opponent d-men and form a tighter defensive box around the scoring area.

      the center needs to see that Wiz is following the puck and the center is expected to cover.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  55. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    There is no way Montreal loses game six in Montreal. No way. They will win, I guarantee it.

  56. HabsoluteFan says:

    Last year the Habs won game 5,6 and 7 versus Ovechkin, Green, Backstrom and the first seed in the East after wasting a 3-0 lead and losing game 2 in OT. Even worst, they lost game 3 & 4 at home to go down 3-1 in the series. Facing the impossible, they refused to die. They then won 2 games when facing elimination versus Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury and the defending cup champs, after suffering a huge blow in losing Markov. Why would it seem so impossible to do the same against the Bruins ? I’ve enjoyed this series so much. Great hockey games, lots of passion, mistakes on both sides, great goaltending from Thomas and Price, a few blunders, a few great goals. The last 2 games went in OT. I expect the same tomorrow night with the Habs coming out on top forcing game 7 on Wednesday night.

    • Steven says:

      I think the biggest thing between us upsetting the Pens and Caps vs us upsetting the Bruins is the goaltending.

      Like it or not, Thomas is a Vezina candidate and deservedly so. Sure, luck has sure saved his flopping arse more often than once, he’s still a very good goalie, and especially better than Fleury and Theodore/Varlamov.

      At the end of the day, if he doesn’t have Ryder making a pure luck save(If he overfancily waved his hand even a millisecond earlier than he did, that was in), or the goalposts saving him, the Bruins are probably finished.

  57. Tony McLean says:

    Max won’t be back this year and it’s okay that Cdns are ultra conservative with him because the guy is one of the crown jewels of the team.

    Anybody else thinking how it would be nice if CH would sign Selanne?

    “Remember 1971.”

  58. Bugs says:

    For the record: even though we’re down and I called Habs in 6 like most folks but deep down, thought 4 or 5 would be all it took, I STILL don’t think I’m wrong.
    Nothing more insulting than being beaten by a team with no talent. I mean, am I blind? Their goals are pizz-garbage luck. They. Have. No. Game. We’re losing because we’re not finishing, not because they’re out-playing us; they need two bounces off our skates and an open net to score. Pizz-garbage luck. Very insulting.
    It’s like the Flyers 3 years ago, except this time, the Priceberg is actually stopping the puck.
    And think about it, the Bruins don’t care. They’re gonna be eliminated next round but they don’t care, because their work is done. They’re not in this thing for no stupid championships; they’re in it to recover all that lost face after 80 years. They’re in it to beat the Habs. So that’s two Stanley Cups in 3 years; they’re on cloud friggin nine. Their work is DONE.
    I always liked to think our aims were a little higher.
    Hockey gods, my azz.

    Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      WOW! That is exactly how I’m feeling. Especially the hockey godz part. Nice job, Bugs!!

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Well said, that man.

      Still, if we could cover their guys instead of leaving them all alone in front of the net it would be nice.

      • Bugs says:

        Seems to me they were covered; you don’t usually have to concern yourself over two skates bounces and a 173 degree angle radical puck bifurcation (yes, I’m exaggerating) that sends it to that ooooooone little fraction of space where a Bruin just happens to be with a finger up his nose and an open side before him.
        Hey, if that’s the only kinda goals they can get, I don’t really have a problem, especially if Pleky, Cammy and Gio bury THEIR open nets. I mean, we wait all game long PRAYIN for Gio to have a chance like he got, a chance he buries 9’n’half times outta 10 and…and…it’s just crazy.
        Hockey gods need to be slapped around some is what I’m sayin. I mean, make this right, you know?
        If we’re gonna get beat, at least be better than us, c’mon.

        Wide-eyed with wonder warbles L. B. Potter, esq.

        • Steven says:

          You kinda get the feeling the Hockey Gods are wearing the wrong prescription glasses and are giving the good luck to the wrong team or something. I mean, come on. Maybe in some RADICALLY different circumstance, the Bruins would deserve the luck over us, but they almost kill Patches then flip the bird to our fans? Come on, they’re gutless pukes!

          I still get the slightest feeling that this is all a part of the Forces-That-Be’s plans. Let the Bruins think theyre in charge after coming back from that, then just drop it all when it matters, in Game 6 and 7.

          It would be sweet.

    • observer says:

      every single 7 game series played and there were many – was sitting at 3 games to 2 after the 5th game – every single one of them.

      • Steven says:

        It’s a bit of a moot point, isn’t it? I mean, it’s either 3-2 or 4-1. But obviously I get your meaning. This series can still go the length, just like any other.

  59. Hobie Hansen says:

    Unbelievable! Games one and two were fairly even with perhaps the slight edge going to Boston, we won both.

    Aside from a slow start is game three, Montreal almost ran Boston out of the rink in game three and four and we lost both.

    In game five, Boston had a little more jump than the Habs but if a couple Bruins’ players didn’t get legs or gloves in front of wide open nets the game would have been ours.

    Who knows what to expect in game six? It’s possible we outshoot Boston 50-25 and lose the game because of goal posts or them tying up the game with a minute left and winning in overtime.

    It’s not time for excuses yet, lol, like the three important players we’re missing as apposed to their one. We’ll have plenty of time for that over the summer and we all know that our team will be even better next season!

    Game six should be a beauty. We can’t lose four in a row and win zero on home ice! The shots Cammalleri missed in game five that were going in last year will hit the back of the net tomorrow. We’ll play a perfectly executed game and limit their chances and capitalize on their mistakes.

    We should have eliminated them or be leading the series right now! Its time for the hockey gods to give us some luck!

  60. rocketsglare says:

    Good to hear that Max is progressing well in his rehabilitation. The
    Habs must come out with a sense of urgency and desperation and
    win by sheer will of force. They must outplay and outwork Boston
    and make most of their scoring opportunities if they expect to
    prevail and force a Game 7. It will be gut check time for this team
    and IMO have the character and leadership to win Game 6 and set
    up an epic Game 7. Get it done Boys!!

  61. psyko514 says:

    Glad to see that Max Pac is practicing even if he’s on the second sheet.

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  62. shiram says:

    Max is on the second ice sheet, as per Stubbs twitter, so don’t expect him to play for the playoffs. Still it’s great news to know that he is doing well in his rehab.

  63. HalifaxHabs says:

    …headed to the second sheet? you actually had me there for a second Stubbs… GEE THANKS!!!

  64. well with news that desharnais out with a knee injury, we need something to fill the hole. He was a true sparkplug in game five. If Max replaces him, it will make game six all the more intense. As far as game shape, he will be out a couple of steps from the other players, so expect a third or four line irregular appearances. With that in mind, i would hope the rest of the team will come with their number one game, pumped to play for Max. If not and all this is speculation and false hopes – so be it. The same feeling i have for a game seven with Max still gaining ground and acquiring his timing. We need a hope and a prayer…maybe the hockey gods will deal us a good hand. Go habs.

  65. HabFanSince72 says:

    Didn’t read that Boston columnist who called the Habs dull be he has a point, doesn’t he?

    In any case, the Bruins are also dull, but also repulsive, physically and spiritually.

  66. Kooch7800 says:

    That is good news but I really hope they don’t rush him back. He will be crucial in the future of this franchise as he is one of our best prospects.
    I don’t want to see a Markov situation where he is back for a short while then gone again.

  67. HabinBurlington says:

    This is very interesting news. Big part of me doesn’t even want to think about him playing again this season. Other part of me knows how much he would help our team. I just can’t see him being in game ready shape for this series. Why do they tease us like this. He is such a big part of our future, i don’t want this to be like Markov rushing back only to be scarred for future.

  68. I can’t imagine where we’d be right now if Max Pacs was playing. Hope for the best right now. Go Habs Go

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  69. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    If we put this into prespective, the Habs are not in terrible shape. They are pretty much exactly where everyone thought they would be…in a position to lose in 6 or 7 or to win in 7. That pretty much was what 95% of people thought would happen. At least we are not Vancouver fans, right? Imagine what that feels like…

    Also when I read the headline about a Leaf winning something big, I couldn’t help but think of our friends in Toronna :) Perhaps, the only way a Leaf will ever be a winner:
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/Nissan+Leaf+named+World+Year/4655035/story.html

  70. Psycho29 says:

    So I was in New York on the weekend, didn’t get to see any of the game Saturday, in Times Square all they had on was basketball (Zzzz)….
    Managed to see the score on the ESPN ticker late Saturday…

    So Sunday touring the city, I see a guy wearing a black Bruins T-shirt and cap, typical B’s fan, around 6-4, 375….I had my Subban T-shirt on. I said to him “So you guys pulled one out last night”. Actually he was an ok guy as far as Bruins fans go, he said the Habs should have won the game, but he agreed that the 5-4 OT game was “THE” pivotal game of the series.
    I told him that it ain’t over yet. All he said was “I know!!”.
    Then he told me the Habs are the better team and the Bruins are really dirty and Chara should have been suspended 20 games.
    At that point I let him back up from dangling over the edge at the Empire State Building. :-)
    See, some Bruins fans are ok…..sometimes.

  71. DarthWade says:

    I would love to see Pacioretty back, but I don’t think he will be. If he is, wouldn’t that be something? I just hope they don’t rush him back if he’s not 100%.

    Boy could we ever have used him in this series.

  72. Ton says:

    normally it would take a week of practice before he was able to suit up

  73. Ian Cobb says:

    Maybe Max will replace Desharness. Who will probably be out with a bum knee.

  74. smiler2729 says:

    Maybe he can play tomorrow night and punch Marchand in the nose…

    “My second favourite team is whoever plays the Leafs”

  75. 25 cups says:

    OMG! now that is news…


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