Pacioretty out, Leblanc in


As the Canadiens hit the ice for practice in Anaheim Tuesday, they will be joined by Louis Leblanc, called up from Hamilton after Max Pacioretty was suspended.

Quote of the day: When asked if the Washington Capitals will play like he did, Dale said: “There’s too many referees out there now.”

Red Fisher weighs in on the hit

Markov set to return?

Hickey on Kirk Muller in Carolina

Michael Farber on Muller

Philippe Cantin sees the season going down the tubes

Pierre LeBrun on Dale Hunter


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  2. remboc says:

    Well thats see,a couple of weeks ago Milan Lucic hits Ryan Miller in the head while he didn t have the puck and as a result Miller hasn t played a minute since while suffering a concussion. Shanahan talks to Lucic and believes him when he said it was an accident and he couldn t avoid him.Result,no suspension.
    Fast forward two weeks,Pacioretty hits Letang in the head and well we know what happened. I guess Shanahan didn t believe Pacioretty as much as he believed Lucic or maybe Lucic is a better liar than Pacioretty is or maybe we changed 4 quarters for a dollar when Shanahan replaced Campbell.Does Shanahan have a son too that plays for Boston??
    The NHL is a bush league and will always be one. The only difference,most bush leagues don t charge 200$ for a ticket in the stands.

  3. joe-hab-nuno says:

    Just figured out why Shanahan didn’t sign with us back a couple years ago. On his stay over in NY these 2 just in black trenched coats with NHL badges approached him in the airport and told him that he had no protection from the head office if he signed with MTL. They gave him 3 teams that will get total protection from them, NYR, Bos and Penguins. He settled with Rangers.

  4. Izzy says:

    Apparantly mike camalleri has made a request to the teams trainer to switch jerseys for the upcoming game. When asked what number he wanted, he replied that the number was fine, but that he wanted it put on one of the ” no contact” jereys. the reply from the trainer was…” yours already is”….

    nuff said

    “Peter Mahovolich wouldn’t have taken that crap”

  5. petefleet says:

    For those of you who think JMs job is not on the line after this western swing, consider this. Bylsma has been coaching the Pens now for over a year without his top three centres. Injuries cannot be an excuse when there is a guy south of the border doing what you claim can’t be done.
    I believe there will be a coaching change before Xmas if the current loss / win ratio does not change for the better. Markov coming back will not change that. JM’s focus this past month should have been getting Cammy, Gionta and Gomer playing like the pros they’re supposed to be. He has not and will pay the price for that. Max, DD and Cole have managed to shield him from that.
    That is my bold statement and prediction.

    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

    ***Habs Forever***

    • G-Man says:

      Comparing Crosby, Malkin and Staal to Pleks, Gomez and Eller?
      Wow. Apples and oranges, man.

      • petefleet says:

        Read it again. I was not comparing anyone. You totally missed the point.

        Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

        ***Habs Forever***

        • habbernack says:

          Last year without their top three centers for half the year they still ended up with 106 pts to further prove your point

          ability is what you’re capable of doing.
          attitude determines how you do it

      • Michael says:

        Actually, that supports his point even more. Bylsma’s done a better job without three players that are, when combined, WAY better than the three aforementioned Habs.

  6. Stev.R says:

    Ryan is being shopped in Anaheim? What REALISTIC offer would you make?

    The only names I wouldn’t offer are Plekanec, Paccioretty, Cole, Eller, Subban, Gorges, Markov, Emelin, Beaulieu, Tinnordi, Gallagher, and maybe Leblanc and Cammy.

    I don’t think we could trade one of our higher paid guys that aren’t on that list because ANA wouldn’t want them. We would be over the cap if we didn’t though.

  7. Habitoba says:

    For those that were pining for Muller to be head coach for the habs, remember, we had two very green coaches in Julien and Carboneau. Granted Carbo’s not doing anything but Julien went along to win a cup after many years of learning. Let Muller learn with the Hurricanes on what it takes to be a head coach for a losing team. hopefully the Habs can snag him or Boucher back when Martin is out and they’ll be that much better at the job. I mean look, Martin is an experienced coach with a winning record and he took up to the eastern finals. I believe this move will be for the best (assuming we get him back, of course).

  8. nellis13 says:

    we sure have a lot of depth when it comes to 180lbs forwards

  9. RS says:

    The good news is that AK46 is coming back and Markov is next. Louis is up for a 3 game look while MaxPac is out.

    Louis is in for a shock, not just the level of the opposition, but the level of his line-mates (even if he ends up on the 4th line). Right now he’s got nobody to work with in Hamilton. The cupboard is bare down there. Hopefully the Habs get healthy and Louis and Palush find some chemistry together in Hamilton.

  10. Hobie Hansen says:

    Although I’m interested to see Louis Leblanc play in his first NHL game I’d rather it not come at the expense of losing Pacioretty when we’re in 12th place or whatever!

    I don’t think Pacioretty intended to hit Letang in the way he did but that type of hit brings images of Savrad, Booth or even the Perron hit to mind. It looks ugly and because of that Shanahan had to call something. The onus is on Letang, he’s the moron cutting across the center of the ice like that but they are trying to remove brain injuries from the game and that’s an easy way to suffer one. So even though Letang is at fault, Pacioretty is punished. That’s the way she goes.

    And making reference to the Bruins and what they’ve managed to escape – a lot of those hits where people were crying for suspensions were very border line and there were some gray areas in the rules. The Pacioretty suspension was an accident but was the exact type of hit they’re trying to remove.

  11. neumann103 says:

    Lines anyone?

    I would rather no break up Eller and AK46, but I think you have to balance the size/experience/defensive ability a bit to avoid exposure.

    1. Cammy Plekanec AK46
    2. Moen Eller Gionta
    3. Leblanc Desharnais Cole
    4. Darche Nokaleinen Palushaj

    “Et le but!”

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    For those who believe that Molsons will not act unless the team suffers financially, La Presse reports that RDS’s ratings for Hab games are down 14%.

    (The notion that the Habs are content to go with the flow as long as the suckers keep paying to watch is falsified by the big shake-up of two years ago. Admittedly that was before Molson.)

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I think Geoff Molson will let Martin finish his season (early).
      He will have a new GM in place at the end of this season.
      The new GM will choose the new coach.

      • Cardiac says:

        I tend to agree. But don’t forget, JM will still be on the books for another year. Anyone know how long PG’s contract is?

        “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
        – Jerry Maguire

      • habs03 says:

        Highly unlikely, Molson had a chance to hire his own GM when Gainey stepped down, and he choose PG, now I think since PG has done a decent job as the Habs GM, he will get a chance to pick his own coach before Molson looks at replacing him.

      • V says:

        I suspect the team will undergo a number of changes between now and end of season but I am leary that this is one of them.

        My guess is that the team gets most everyone healthy for an extended period only because the law of averages points in that direction. I also guess with everyone healthy they are easily a play-off team and Martin/Gauthier will finish the season just fine.

        Acceptable outcome IMO.

    • mb says:

      Maybe the ratings went down, but the Bell is still full every game night. (Plus add the beer(s), the jersey, the 4.50$ hot-dogs…)
      Personaly, I don’t think that they suffer that much, financially.

    • MikeL says:

      Not sure if this is included in the ratings stats, but both Bell and Shaw Direct Satellite have regional Habs games on TSN. I know Bell did last year, but Shaw Direct just got the games this year.

      Not sure if that would influence RDS’ ratings as much as 14%, but I know for myself, and most English Habs fans, I watch the TSN feed if it’s available.

      • sillywalk says:

        Speak for yourself. The TSN games are awful. I took RDS in my satellite package for the sole reason that they show all 82 games and the playoffs. I wouldn’t lump all English Habs fans together like you did.

    • Habitoba says:

      Let’s not forget the increase in free streaming sites of the games. That’ll take a chunk away from the paying game subscribers.

  13. DearyLeary says:

    The Wire gives us a parable of what it feels like to be a Habs fan dealing with the NHL front office.

  14. Curtis O Habs says:

    Hey Shanny; How about the high stick on Subban by Neal? Was that a hockey play? Not a head shot? You are no longer Irish in my eyes. Smells like all American beef to me.

  15. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Muller to Carolina as head coach? Well, here’s everybody’s chance to either say, “I told you so!” or “Oops.” Rookie head coaches with no NHL experience are very likely to have a steep learning curve, however. Good luck Captain Kirk!

  16. Ian Cobb says:

    After 2 games, Martin will have Leblanc on the point to teach him his system.
    No offense! you hear me kid, If you are going to play for me it’s D.D.D.D.D. and more D. got it kid?
    Next year Leblanc asks to be moved to another club.!

    • G-Man says:

      Bunk. Pleks plays the point because he is defensively responsible while being able to make plays. Is he Markov? No. Do the Habs have anyone right now capable of playing PP point without making a hash of it? No.
      What’s wrong with being responsible defensively anyways? If the team scores 400 but allows 500, is the team better off? Hockey is a 2-way game, Ian, not a uni-dimensional one.

  17. Stev.R says:

    Its nice to be able to give a offensive prospect a chance to play in a scoring role. Hey, what happened to Palushaj? He gets brought up to play the fourth line, and then when a spot for him to play his role opens, we give it to the next guy. Haha, I’de rather Louis got it instead anyways…

  18. Rad says:

    I said a Louie Louie,
    oh oh oh no
    Me gotta go

  19. NCRhabsfan says:

    The problem the NHL has is that it doesn’t have a system for discipline, just a guy that “calls em as he sees em”. What exactly is Shanahan’s qualification to sit in judegement? Does he have any experience judging actions and relevant regulations? No, he knows how to throw an elbow. How can one be too critical when the guy is doing a job he is woefully unqualified to do? It cannot be a surprise that he is a complete and utter failure at it. He probably wouldn’t do well landing an airplane or building a hydro-plant either (two other things he probably has similar qualifications to do). The NHL needs to install a panel (of individuals with experience and expertise in assessing evidence and weighing it against a set of regualtions) and have hearings. They need to allow players to rebut allegations about what did or did not happen and they need to create a separate panel to hear appeals of the original decisions. It’s time to get rid of the one man judge, jury and executioner role of VP of player safety or whatever Shanny is being called, particularly when it’s being filled by a joker with no credentials for the job.

    Speaking of systems, or the lack thereof, it is interesting that once again a foul worthy of a suspension was not called for even a minor penalty by the on-ice officials. This seems almost common-place these days. They give a major penalty and the league office says “no, that was just a hockey play”, they give nothing and a suspension is forthcoming. The league and its officials seem to be completely out of synch. The only place where they look like they’re on the same page is on the wild inconsistency they display from one day to the next, sometimes from one minute to the next. I guess we should expect that the on-ice officials would be horrible given the ineptitude of their bosses. So who is responsible for the on-ice officiating and why isn’t he or she doing their job? NHL officiating is the worst of any major sport. What’s being done to fix it?

    • montreal ace says:

      Buttman is a sleaze but he is not stupid, he put Crapahan in a job that when arrors are made, his public relations team can just say its on the job training and he will get better. I was not surprised that Buttman put a puppet in the job, I was surprised Crapahan accepted it with his lack of qualifications. Buttman is destroying the NHL that I grew up watching, as I see him using suspensions as a way of control and the placement of teams in the standings.

    • Habitoba says:

      So a player who was both on the receiving end and also dishing out dirty plays for (how many years?) doesn’t know what he’s talking about when he’s looking at hits on players? He might not get them all right but this is the first year that he’s in office and I think he’s doing a decent job. Not perfect, but decent. The video commentary is great as you can see and listen to the thought process. The NHL IS addressing the head shot/illegal hit issue, you’re looking at the first steps forward. Baby steps. You can’t drastically change a sport one year to the next with tons of new rules without the veterans et al. bucking at the new system. Slowly ween out the old system to comply with a safer NHL. I’m not happy with the call but a head shot is a head shot. Keep it up Shanny.

  20. chemic says:

    not actual but something to laugh about it – if you into this kind of humor

    i like the Weber-Part 🙂

    • slychard says:

      Oh man, tremendous laugh! Thanks for the link, a keeper. I like the 20 people showed up part, and the fart scene of course. Really, thanks again.

      Kiss my hAbSS!!!

  21. shiram says:

    I’m fine with MaxPac getting suspended, it’s bad for the Habs, but the League needs to protect it’s players, and they should do what they can to remove dangerous hits.
    That being said, I cannot say I like the way suspensions are going right now, there does not seem to be a true and consistent way in which they call these things. Shanny has been a disapointment so far, and unless he starts to consistently give out punishment, well it will the same old crap we are all used to.

    Louis Leblanc gets a call up. Good for the kid, I guess Palushaj got his chance, and blew it, for now. Looking at the Dog’s roster is depressing though, a really depleted farm, but that’s to be expected considering all the kids we have playing in the big show.

    Habs are truly a middling team this season, and while there is hope that Markov can help it turn around, it would still be a bubble playoff team.

    Randy for HC!

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I honestly though Shanahan would do a good job. But now I see it should have been a retired NHL coach or referee. Someone independent from the league.

      • shiram says:

        The league is just not willing to change.

        Randy for HC!

      • slychard says:

        No coach, a referee yes, one from anywhere but Toronto, or it’s suburbs, or the general area of Toronto heck it’s vicinity awww Ontario heck Canada wait Boston also Massachusetts make that New England include Philadelphia throw in Pittsburg shoot the whole state of PA. damn forgot head office in NY let’s just rule out America as a whole Europe Russia…
        Damn, this conspiracy stuff is exhausting.

        Kiss my hAbSS!!!

    • G-Man says:

      Shamahan is the same as Rectum Campbell.

      • Hab-Q says:

        Rectum? damn -near killed-um!

        “I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out”

        ~Rodney Dangerfield

    • Sharks9 says:

      Plus all our best prospects are still playing in Junior. Next year the Bulldogs should be much better.

      25 before 14

  22. likehoy says:

    the NHL is a joke with their subpar officiating, inconsistent suspensions, this whole “explaining the suspension” crap trying to justify a bad decision explaining their point of view.

    Honestly if it weren’t for the Canadiens, I’d probably stop watching the NHL altogether.

    Red’s article is pretty accurate on how reckless it was to let letang get back on the ice..

    – If the NHL was the Wizard of Oz, Cammalleri would be the Cowardly Lion.

    • CanadienBoy says:

      What’s frustrating it like Bostons get there way ,but not Montreal may be Molson should speak a little louder, like whats the bloody hell happening here

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Remember that Crosby’s long ailment was due to Pittsburgh letting him play – both in the Washington game and in the next game where he got the second hit.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        And you never hear the media give them crap for that either. The Bob McKenzie’s of the world don’t dare question Pittsburgh for how they handled that situation. Had Crosby been a Hab and that happened they would be all over the handling.

    • avatar_58 says:

      I stopped caring since last year really. I can’t say that I’m super stoked to watch games anymore.

  23. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I’ll admit that the type of hit that Pacioretty laid on Letang, being precisely what the NHL is (supposedly) trying to do away with, deserved a suspension but I’d like Shanahan to explain why other hits, some worse, were not as worthy. Pacioretty had his neck broken. Miller is still out and Letang didn’t even visit the quiet room. To paraphrase Groucho, explain it to me like I’m four years old.

  24. adamkennelly says:

    not a good time to be a Habs fan…team sucks – no end in sight as it appears management is taking the “wait till our good players get un-hurt” approach…Patches gets suspended (rightfully) after Chara gets nothing and Malone gets nothing….sucks to get the SH*&^T end of the stick all the time…

  25. habs03 says:

    I think 3 games isfair, Patches had no intention to hurt Letang but those are the hits we gotta get out of the game. And pls stop complaining this to the Lucic on Miller or Chara on Patches, different type of plays, only thing recently that compares is the Paille hit, where he got 4 games for.

    • GoalieT says:

      The one play I keep thinking about is the Malone hit on Campoli earlier this year (where Malone played like a complete jack-arse all game). The logic Shanahan used to justify no suspension was that Campoli’s head position changed just prior to impact when he reached for the puck. Letang’s head position also changed upon releasing the shot. Both players never looked up at the oncoming potential hit. No two hits are exactly the same, but that’s the one that I keep thinking about in comparison.

      Ultimate Die-Hard Fan Since 1986.


      • habs03 says:

        I have to disagree, Letang head did not change positions, I think if it had it, there would be no suspension, I think if Letang was 6-2, it would have been a perfect hit. In regards to the Malone hit, I think we need to get those hits out of the game as well, but with the rules the way it is, you can’t suspended him.

        • Curtis O Habs says:

          Letang`s head may not have moved, but but his body shifted under his head during the act of shooting, effectively changing the position of his head. Moving your body back and twisting has the same result as sticking your head out. The only way Max could have contacted the body was to take Letang out at the knees.

      • athanor says:

        What, pray tell, is ‘jack-arse’ supposed to mean?

        Is it a PC version of jackass?

        Jackass is a perfectly good word referring to a male donkey/mule often perceived as stupid and truculent. And it conveys the way Malone was behaving precisely.

  26. Ian Cobb says:

    Teams set record in hockey brawl
    Chaos in Finland leads to 439 penalty minutes,
    465 penalty minutes in the game,

    I give up!! Still do not know how to copy and paste properly???

  27. Xsteve50 says:

    Isn`t it nice to wake up with such mixed feelings. Kirk a head coach in the NHL, (+), not with Montreal (-). LL getting a chance to play in the NHL (+), because Max is suspended (-). Dale Hunter finally getting to show what he can do on the big stage as far as being a coach (+). Hunter always HATED the Canadiens (-). it just goes on and on……

  28. RGM says:

    My thoughts on it – I don’t mind that Max was suspended. We’ve all talked about how we want hits to the head out of the game, and Max hit the guy in the head. I would have thought 1-2. Some thug with the Rangers dished out a much more blatant high elbow to a guy last week and he got 3 games – the intent was clearly there on the Ranger player’s part, whereas with Max I just don’t feel that he intended to make contact with the head. And of course there’s the fact that Lucic smoked Miller and got absolutely nothing for it, and in fact boasted about what a big tough guy he was for doing it. Max apologized to the guy on the ice, showing his class, and he gets the book thrown at him. Like I said, I support that he got a suspension, I just disagree with the length of it in the context of other hits that were far dirtier that went unpunished or punished lightly.

    If they want to establish 3 games as the new baseline for a headshot, and have used Deveaux and Pacioretty as the starting points for that standard, this will all make sense soon. But I fear that there will just be more inconsistency to come in terms of severity and excuses/justifications.

    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!
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  29. Marcusman says:

    Anyone who watched the game Malone Hit Campolli knows just how reved up Malone was all game. If you go back and watch the reply..Malone let’s the puck (he’s in the high slot at the time) go past him to hit Campolli…..

    Had he been suspended for that I’d understand completely max’s suspension.

    • SmartDog says:

      There’s no question the Malone hit was worse than the Patches hit. Shanahan says he takes history into account. It makes ZERO sense and makes a complete joke of Shanahan. I’m starting to think Shany was hit in the head too many times. Even if the call was “right” Shanahan is just as much a joke today as he was yesterday.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  30. Habfan10912 says:

    Somebody posted a rumor about Iggy in Calgary also.

  31. Storm Man says:

    Hmmm LL is up, maybe the deal to get Ryan to Montreal does have some truth to it :-).

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