Pacioretty not on the ice for Lac-Mégantic practice

The Canadiens hit the ice at 2:30 p.m. Thursday at the Centre Sportif Lac-Mégantic for a practice in the town that was devastated this summer by a train-derailment disaster.

The arena, which holds about 1,000 people, was packed when the Canadiens started practice without Max Pacioretty on the ice. Pacioretty appeared to suffer an upper-body injury during the team’s season-opening 4-3 loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs on Tuesday night at the Bell Centre and took a therapy day. There was no update on the condition of George Parros, who suffered a concussion during that game in a fight with Colton Orr. The Canadiens said on Wednesday that he was out indefinitely after being released from hospital.

Before practice, the Canadiens held a private session with Lac-Mégantic mayor Colette Roy-Laroch and city council. After practice the Canadiens were to head outside the arena to sign autographs for fans.

“We wanted to show the people of Lac-Mégantic we support them,” David Desharnais said. “It was nice to see so many smiles today.”

Said Francis Bouillon: “Driving three hours to be here was nothing. We’re proud to be able to be here. It was a good day for everyone.”

Brandon Prust didn’t make the trip to Lac Megantic because of family reasons.

Here’s what the lines and defence pairings looked like at practice:

White-Bournival-Moen
Gionta-Plekanec-Bourque
Brière-Desharnais-White
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher

Subban-Gorges
Diaz-Markov
Bouillon-Tinordi

(Photo by Dario Ayala/The Gazette)

Habs bring some cheer to Lac-Megantic, by Pat Hickey

Practice with a purpose, Canadiens.com

Avs coach Roy fined $10,000 for outburst, montrealgazette.com

706 Comments

  1. Mattyleg says:

    Okay, can we all just agree that fighting should be banished from hockey?

    I think that’s what everyone is trying to say.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  2. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ uce

    I believe the premise or your opinion/point of view that “Hockey is a Game” is slightly off – some may even say, a rather noble and romantic view of former glory days where players played for financial peanuts and the love of the game.
    Those days do not reflect the realities of 2013.

    NHL Hockey has morphed into a several Billion Dollar Entertainment Business, that uses the Beautiful Game Of Hockey as its Revenue producing vehicle.

    It is composed of Independent entities – one being private Corporations for the most part, the other being Independent Contract Employees governed by a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    While the many continue the debate of hockey fighting and its pros and cons, one must remember that the 2 Parties involved – the owners and Contract employees, are willing and agreeing partners/participants in the hockey fight sideshow.

    That is a Business Decision they have agreed to.
    They will be the ones that will determine when, and if change is to happen.

    That change could happen when the defined revenue streams erode and are seen as such, due to an overwhelming outlash and backlash against fighting.

    For the record, I am 100% against the Staged Fight.
    Also for the record, I, as everyone else have decisions to make.

    For the large Revenue producers, they can vote with their pocketbooks if they feel the need to eliminate fighting.
    For others that are not part of the revenue stream either directly or indirectly, they can change the channel.
    For some that indirectly contribute to Revenues via goods and services purchases from major sponsors, they can decide to become activist or cease the purchase of those same goods and services.

    • Eddie says:

      There is no movement, none, by the true stakeholders, to deal with fighting. Do the fans deserve better? When was the last time 1 fan, even 1, booed a fight at the game?

      The fans, for the most part either love the fighting, or simply don’t dislike it enough to react negatively to it. The fans who pay for their tickets generate most of the revenue for the NHL.

      And do the players want fighting eliminated?

      How about the owners who see their fans jump out of their seats and cheer the fights?

      Let’s be realistic here. The league is responding to the fans in many ways. The league does the research, and everyone sees the reaction of the fans at every game, in every city, when a fight occurs.

      Against all of that demand for fighting, we want the league to take it away?

      Business does not work that way. And the NhL is a big business.

  3. Mr_MacDougall says:

    How about that MB, he added toughness which is great…

    What sickens me is he held tough on giving PK a 2 year bridge contract (which will hurt the Habs long term for the cap). This was after PK had 160 regular season games and 21 playoff games playing top minutes, and quite well.. okay, a stance on term at two years.. under $3 mill. Great, you stood your ground MB.

    Now, let’s examine DD, the useless midget that is 0/1296 on puck battles. 126 regular season games, and 5 playoff games when he gets his second deal.. should be a bridge contract right? obviously no more than 2 years, and less cash than PK, c’mon DD’s agent can’t argue that DD deserves more than PK right?

    Wrong! not only did DD get more money than PK, he also got double the term, all while being a less valuable, and less experienced player…

    Somebody please explain what the hell MB tried to accomplish by “bridging” PK and then aborting that strategy on the less valuable DD.. sickened and confused.

    • Cardiac says:

      Parlez-vous français?

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • Phil C says:

      DD already finished his bridge contract. 2 years, $850K per year. His current contract takes him into UFA years.

    • krob1000 says:

      Under the bridge that’s all

    • Ozmodiar says:

      DD was set to become a UFA. He was already on a bridge deal. PK was a younger RFA.

      It was reported that PK wanted a 5 year term. Had he signed such a deal, he would have been a FA at age 28. As it stands now, he’ll still be an RFA at season’s end and will probably sign an 8 year deal, making him a UFA at age 33. Better than seeing him walk @ 28.

      Further, MB didn’t know he’d win the Norris trophy.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      MB did the right thing…concerning PK

      The Cap decreased this year, and if PK was at the $7M level, the Habs would be somewhere around $3M over the Cap Ceiling.

      As for moving forward, there are expectations that the Cap Ceiling could move upwards anywhere from $5-$7-$10M per year.

      PK will hit the jackpot, yet that year 7 or year 8 payment will look like a bargain when that time arrives if all the experts are correct about the Cap increases moving forward.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        It’s not the PK deal that bothers me… was DD such a ‘hot commodity’ he needed to be locked up for 4 years? while having played less than two years in the NHL… his largest sample size was ‘leading the way’ to a last place finish… sure he put up points, but was playing with two men that had career seasons.

        DD contract is not only a slap in the face to the more experienced PK, but it is an AWFUL contract for a useless player.

    • Luke says:

      DD and PK were in different contractual situations. So it’s not apples to apples.

      DD at 3.5 is better than what his comperables received this summer. Bozak at 4.2; Bailey & Gagner @ (5-ish, i can’t recall exactly).

      The PK bridge was brilliant.

      Good for both sides. PK proved his worth and will cash in on more than the long term 5m he was apparantly looking for, while MB added a high impact player at low cost in a season when he was working closely to a cap that would be reducing the next season.

      • krob1000 says:

        apples to pommes?

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        not that different, both similar NHL experience, neither had much bargaining power, DD is a plugger at best, PK is a cornerstone for the franchise, DD gets more money, more term based on less experience and impact…. HUGE slap in the face for PK.

        Note: DD did have the edge in AHL games 160-80.. but I’d value PK’s 16 post season NHL games at least as much as those 80 reg season AHL games…

        DD is the new Gomez IMO

    • I wouldn’t say that’s sickening — MB wanted PK to prove what he could do, and he went out and won the Norris. Maybe he would have won it anyway. Either way, the $7.5M or so we’ll pay Subban next year is fair value for what we get — and by underpaying him for this year and last, MB was able to sign stopgaps like Briere and Murray to keep the wheels from falling off while the kids ripen in Hamilton. Smart move, I’d say.


      Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

    • Supersonic says:

      Great explanations, hopefully people will stop bashing MB for doing the right thing.

  4. Ron says:

    Hamilton Bulldogs have assigned Stefan Chaput and Stephen MacAulay to the ECHL Wheeling Nailers. Owens and Belzile were released from their PTO’s.

  5. Mr_MacDougall says:

    My take on fighting.

    Fighting is currently a major penalty, unlike other major infractions there is no supplemental discipline for repeat offenders, this is a problem. If a player repeatedly commits a major boarding foul supplemental discipline increases accordingly.

    The only change needed is to have some sort of scale similar to minor hockey… first 3 fights, no suspension, 4-6 game ejection, 7-10 – 15 one game. playoffs.. never a suspension.

  6. Sportfan says:

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  7. Say Ash says:

    Timo, will RDS be broadcasting tomorrow’s game?

    • Mattyleg says:

      Does anyone know if RDS is carrying any regular-season games this year?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Timo says:

        I am on. Will let you guys know.

      • Sportfan says:

        Heard they lost it to TVA Sports and Paperview :P

        Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!
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      • krob1000 says:

        Are the regular season and gellin period the same thing? Can you please provide the date they change? I would also like to mark the measuring stick games on my calendar as well as 4 pointers. Can someone help me with all of this?

        • Cardiac says:

          Try Tweeting PJ Stock

          “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
          - Jerry Maguire

          • krob1000 says:

            What would that twit say?
            “Pj I know you put more Stock into some games then others…can you provide me with a list of games that matter the most? I love 4 pointers and measuring stick games but also love rivalries, trap games, back to backers, 3rd game in 4 nighters are special too. I enjoy ceremonies, road games against teams that only get to see Montreal play once or twice a year, any interconference games and of course any game at the Bell is special. Can you tell me which ones will be important that I should earmark?”

          • Cardiac says:

            Don`t you mean tweet?

            “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
            - Jerry Maguire

      • Luke says:

        We’ll find that out once they settle this damnable lockout!

  8. frontenac1 says:

    I agree with wjc in that some hockey fights are boring. (ring around the Rosie”s) Those should be a game misconduct. However the good toe to toe slugfest should be 2 min max. Entertainment value amigos. Get rid of the Instigator Rule!

    • habs1992 says:

      Agreed +1, now go have a drink its Friday.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Front, I heard Dave Hodge talking about fighting the other day and he must have spoken to you. He said that there was one argument for fighting that he simply couldn’t compete with. He spoke of how some people simply, “Love to watch fights and don’t care if the players get hurt.”

      I don’t say this in a bad way to you, and I think Hodge is right, there are people who quite simply love watching fights and are not worried about the players health. And for that he said, there is no argument he could think of.

      CHeers Amigo!

      • krob1000 says:

        Well then he should just throw a temper tantrum and toss his pen angrily!

        • Mattyleg says:

          One of the most memorable moments in my young hockey-watching life.

          I was shocked. I couldn’t believe it.
          Still with me to this day, and I’ve never seen it since.

          -edit- I just watched it. Almost exactly the way I remember it. Nearly gave me goosebumps.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • krob1000 says:

            Me too….I still remember my Dad and his friends being angry about them cutting away but all of the guys laughing about Dave Hodge’s reaction over theri beers for he next while. They were all chucking pens and for years any time you didn’t get yor way you tossed a pen!

  9. jrshabs1 says:

    does the NHL care what the posters of HIO think about fighting? The pro’s and con’s can be debated till your fingers bleed..it won’t make 1 lick of difference. There is no need to get upset about something that you have absolutely no bearing on. Excuse the pun…we have no dog in the fight.
    Go Habs Go!!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We love hockey, and it’s being strangled by the NHL. We do have a dog in this fight. If the NHL can’t be the guardians and promoters of hockey, a sacred public trust, maybe they need outside help.

      • Timo says:

        Is hockey really that much was when it wasn’t “stranggled” by the NHL? I didn’t get a benefit of watching NHL in the 80 or 70 so I can’t compare. But from watching some youtube clips and an occasional “classic” I gotta say… hockey today is a lot faster, technically sound, fantastic goaltending and overall I think provides more entertainment than if I watch a game from 70s. It was fantastic in those days cause Habs actually had a great team but overall, hockey now if far superior.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Watching a game from the 70′s with the crap quality of the video compared to today’s HD also makes the comparison useless. I remember watching hockey in the 70′s and it was riveting. Especially the Russia versus Montreal and Philadelphia games. Then came the Habs stopping the Broad Street Bullies it was incredible to watch. And capped off with the Bruins series with Cherry blowing it for Boston. Guy would take that puck from behind his net, the Forum crowd stood and cheered. It was great great hockey.

          No doubt todays athletes are finer tuned, the game is faster, etc… but that is the same with technology changing. But the game in the 70′s and 80′s was great to watch as well. More mistakes, more scoring = perhaps better entertainment.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Hockey played at its best is what I’m after. Yes the shifts were longer in the seventies, the pace slower, but that doesn’t mean the brand of hockey played was poor. Serge Savard’s spinerama, Guy Lapointe’s feints and head fakes, Larry’s rink-long rushes, they were heady stuff.

          Think of it as the Canadiens-Red Army showdown on New Year’s Eve, that was hockey played at its highest level, compared to the Flyers mugging of the same team, which was shameful and anti-hockey, never mind boorish Bob Cole’s ecstatic “They’re going home!” call.

          So the talent level, the physical conditioning, the improved equipment should produce a much better game now than it did even in the high-scoring eighties when the Oilers and Flames and Jets and Nordiques outskated and outscored their opponents into submission.

          Weird that the NBA and NFL have managed to improve their game in the last couple of decades, while the NHL’s product has devolved into a checking, grinding, cycling game, low-scoring and rarely imaginative. Parity is the word. Rugby is another game that has tweaked the rules to improve what could in past be a muddy, slow mess, into an active, fast-paced exciting game.

          The NHL is criminally short-sighted, and has accreted a media class that goose-steps along as if nothing is wrong. Bruce Arthur and Dave Hodge are marginalized, shouted down by Mike Milbury.

          Is hockey better now than in the Seventies? It’s better than when the Flyers ruled, but much worse than the late-Seventies, after Larry Robinson put an end to the Philadelphia nonsense. More importantly, the game is much less than it could be.

        • Ron says:

          Timo I have been watching NHL hockey from the mid 50′s on through to present and there are those that say the older hockey played was better. My preference is todays fast, skilled, hard hitting style. Even though our Habs have not had stellar teams through some of those periods I still stick with it. As a comparison through those years the League is not run much better.

      • Cardiac says:

        The league didn’t care much about what we thought during the lockout, why should things change now?

        “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
        - Jerry Maguire

    • habs1992 says:

      +1 I know for a fact that the NHL does not care about what HIO have to say.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

    • Phil C says:

      The NHL cares what fans think. We are their customers. Right now most customers want fighting. If that ever changes, fighting will be gone in a hurry. It’s like saying one vote doesn’t matter which is often true. But if enough people vote the same way, it matters.

  10. In non-fighting-related news, Pominville re-ups in Minny for 5 years, $5.6M per. Next year that’ll leave them $13M to sign 6 players — totally doable if they move Heatley at the deadline, considering the rest of their core is locked up.

    I was one of those who thought they were dooming themselves to cap misery with the Parise and Suter signings, but I hadn’t realized how much room they had.


    Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

    • habs001 says:

      Cap going up next year also

    • Luke says:

      Even if they don’t move him, I believe Heatley is an UFA. His 7.5 is off regardless.

      Pominville? Meh. Decent player, but Plex-ish. Making Plex-ish money. I think he’s Plex-ish in age as well. We’ve got Plex. I like his turtle necks.

      • : ) I like them both.

        And yes, Heatley’s a UFA — would be crazy to let him walk for nothing though.


        Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

        • Luke says:

          True enough. Hadn’t thought of it from that POV.

          • You’re right though, it does happen all the time — I know teams want to keep their stars for a playoff run, but when you think of all the future returns they sacrifice to do that, it seems crazy not to deal a UFA star at the deadline unless you know he’ll sign. Imagine what we could have gotten for a Kovalev, Komisarek, Koivu, Streit and a 25-goal Souray…


            Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

  11. Propwash says:

    Patches and Prusty are back at practice.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  12. Timo says:

    Watched 2 periods of Canucks and Sharks game last night. Man… the first 2 lines on any of these teams is just man vs boys when compared to Habs’ first 2 lines. Just shows you how freaking terrible DD and Pleks lines are.

  13. HabinBurlington says:

    @Matty, 100% agree this season is going to feel longer, almost twice as long in fact. :)

  14. habs001 says:

    Habs pp is having problems since the end of last season when opposition teams started to pressure the point man…Habs have not adapted to this and some of the point man are fumbling and rushing their plays..They have to solve this….i am saying the same thing as before the season opener Habs dont win sat if they dont win or at least tie the pp/pk stats…

  15. Un Canadien errant says:

    I’m seeing posters get agitated by the pacifists’ arguments that fighting should be outlawed in hockey, effectively so, as opposed to the current 5 minute breather that just allows a pugilist to recharge his batteries for future mayhem. They’re getting impatient and the tone is rising, I don’t know why, the pacifists are debating cogently, calmly. Maybe the pro-crowd has anger-management issues?

    One point I see being made is that it’s the same two or three posters who repeat the same points over and over again.

    Which is comical, because I read the same points ad nauseam from the Don Cherry Contingent: “It’s been in the game forever! It’s here to stay!” So was the colour line in baseball…

    “It keeps the stickwork down, keeps players honest.” Debatable, the league has abdicated its responsibility in that regard.

    “The players polled were in favour of it!”So were baseball players and fans in favour of maintaining the colour line.

    If I had to avoid an entire thread because a naive illiterate teen polluted it entirely, carpet bombing it with his fantastic tales and ill-formed view of the world, you guys can stand to read a poster’s opinions that are fact-based and grammatical. If you don’t, you can also skip his posts, instead of reading them and getting in a high dudgeon about it.

    For the record, I’d like to be counted as against fighting in the NHL, it replaces hockey talent and skill with brutishness and intimidation, it produces a game where a Pavel Datsyuk is likely to get slashed and taken out of the game by a thug who can’t skate but is trying his best to counter him, is incapable of anything but anti-hockey. It yields a game where a David Desharnais has hordes of haters not because he’s not a good player, but because he’s too small to crosscheck Mike Kostka off the puck.

    So it’s not two or three posters, it’s three or four now. For the record.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/09/fighting-in-hockey-is-not-necessary-and.html

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/10/game-1-canadiens-3-maple-leafs-4.html

    ———————————————————————–
    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

    • habs1992 says:

      HAHAHAH DD would be terrible in any league, the guy is small and he can’t even skate fast for his size. The only good thing about him, is the DD drinking game on A Saturday night, For the all time he falls down.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

      • Mattyleg says:

        Hahahahaha!
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        Haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa!!!!-!
        Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaaaahahahahahahhaha-hahaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!

        AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA!

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • krob1000 says:

      ok UCE..so now I am pissed!

    • boing007 says:

      Make that five … and counting.

      Richard R

    • Ron says:

      So you come back today too stir the pot. I thought it looked like it might calm down today and we could all get back to the team and upcoming game etc but no Normand you had to come in with another poke. Your sure entitled to do so but how long is this so called debate going to continue ? I love your posts (not this one) in regard to our players of this year and the comparisons to previous team members which I hope you continue with but sorry this I find hard to get around coming from you.

      • krob1000 says:

        It was a jab not a poke…and jabs are fighting! UCE is a fighter! and 2 mins for instigating….or are you “enforcing” or “retaliating” or “sticking up for your supporters”?
        I probably just got an extra 2 for unsportsmanlike…this is going to be one penalty filled debate…pretty soon someone is gonna jump over the bench and get 10 games

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Ron, I didn’t “come back today”, you make it sound like I’m not a regular.

        I logged in this morning to see what’s up, started from the bottom of the thread where I left off, and the first comments I read were by an incensed poster who wrote “For f sakes”, and told the “2 or 3 posters” who harp on this to just pipe down on this. That’s what I’m reacting to. I’m not instigating.

        • Ron says:

          Your not instigating Normand just adding to the long debate (if one even wants to call it one) that was not going to be settled on here two days ago or today and most likely the weekend. We have enough back and forth disagreements here with simple line combinations let alone a major issue of fighting. I think its time to let it go before someone has a not so warranted out burst because of tempers. It would be nice to let it go.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      I believe the premise or your opinion/point of view that “Hockey is a Game” is slightly off – some may even say, a rather noble and romantic view of former glory days where players played for financial peanuts and the love of the game.
      Those days do not reflect the realities of 2013.

      NHL Hockey has morphed into a several Billion Dollar Entertainment Business, that uses the beautiful game of hockey as its Revenue producing vehicle.

      It is composed of Independent entities – one being private Corporations for the most part, the other being Independent Contract Employees governed by a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

      While the many continue the debate of hockey fighting and its pros and cons, one must remember that the 2 Parties involved – the owners and Contract employees, are willing and agreeing partners/participants in the hockey fight sideshow.

      That is a Business Decision they have agreed to.
      They will be the ones that will determine when, and if change is to happen.

      That change could happen when the defined revenue streams erode and are seen as such, due to an overwhelming outlash and backlash against fighting.

      For the record, I am 100% against the Staged Fight.
      Also for the record, I, as everyone else have decisions to make.

      For the large Revenue producers, they can vote with their pocketbooks if they feel the need to eliminate fighting.
      For others that are not part of the revenue stream either directly or indirectly, they can change the channel.
      For some that indirectly contribute to Revenues via goods and services purchases from major sponsors, they can decide to become activist or cease the purchase of those same goods and services.

  16. I’ve posted something along these lines before, but so long as we’re talking about suspensions: 2, 3 or even 5-game suspensions are simply not a deterrent in an 82-game season.

    Pure enforcers know they only keep their job if they can go out there and break heads. So they do the logical thing and earn their paycheques, and even if that means three 5-game suspensions a year (which it doesn’t unless you’re Raffi Torres), it’s still a great deal for them. Say they’re making $750k. That still translates to $613k for the year — a heck of a lot more than they’d make in the AHL or anywhere else.

    If we want to get the most dangerous plays out of the game, we need to increase those suspensions to 30 or 40 games, or the whole season for something really awful, and with no cap relief, so teams can’t just call up the next thug in line on the farm to replace the suspended guy. Start punching a guy who doesn’t drop the gloves? 20 games. Boarding of any kind? Minimum 30 games. Marchand-style low-bridging? 30 games. Flying headshot? 40 games or more. The game will clean up quick.


    Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

  17. frontenac1 says:

    So A-Rod is suing MLB and Selig?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think A-Rod’s lawyer has some nice future income on his way, given how A-Rod seems to want to blame everyone else for shoving needles up his arse!

      Edit: I in know way feel MLB and Selig have operated with any class either, as the hypocritical stance on Steroids in baseball is appalling. How Selig could sit and cheer for Sosa and McGwire, knowing they were juiced and now pretend he represents what is good in the game is unbelievable.

      • Cardiac says:

        Reminds me of the scene in Jerry Maguire where they are in the airport watching the football player bawling on TV saying “People don’t know the kind of problems and pressures $54 million come with.”

        “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
        - Jerry Maguire

  18. habs001 says:

    After 40 games if the team is still struggling and some of the older forwards and d man are playing like in the opener than it is time to put more young players into the lineup and trade some of the veterans…Management must think that this team is a contender otherwise it makes no sense to have so many veterans in the lineup.

    • BJ says:

      If that becomes the case we will be in line for another Galchenyuk type player at the draft.

    • habs1992 says:

      Tank for Wiggins?

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

    • Timo says:

      Combine that with at least 20 games from last season and it’s 60. How much time does MB need to figure that his first 2 lines and swiss cheese D are no good to be competitive in this league? Is MB THAT slow?

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      MB has already stated the team has “a ways to go” – so the goal is to make the playoffs and hopefully provide a better showing than the Ottawa series this past spring. MB has promoted numerous young players to the team in the past year, and in order for this approach to be successful, there needs to be a blend of experience to mentor youth along.

      I do agree that some movement will likley occur this year, but not so much to make room for youngsters.

    • To be fair, the word “still” in “still struggling” seems out of place. I’d hardly say they’re struggling — they’ve played just one game and lost by a goal, mostly due to indiscipline. The game was as close on the ice as the score implies. If they play like that 82 times, they’ll do okay.


      Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

  19. Luke says:

    Worth a read:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/institute-nhl-fighting-ban-smart-trending-topics-135942220–nhl.html

    “So how do we institute NHL fighting ban if you’re so smart? (Trending Topics)”

    • Mattyleg says:

      You coming to the summit, Luke?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Luke says:

        Sadly, no. I missed my chance.

        Tickets went available at the worst time for me, and then when the extra two came up I was a bit too slow on the draw.

        Too bad, though. I would’ve loved to. Sounds/looks like a riot.

        Next year.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Why don’t you swing by Hurley’s on Friday night?
          We’ll all be there.
          Or Baton Rouge before the game?
          Or Hurley’s after the game?

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Luke, I haven’t decided yet if I am driving to Montreal or grabbing train. Will be a great time, I am sure it won’t be hard to find a ticket for the game. Give it some thought.

          • Luke says:

            When I was making my (scuttled) plans, it was going to be train all the way. Stress free, a couple beverages en route, dropped off within walking distance of the Novotel.

            This year is out, though.
            I dropped the $500 on my Icedog’s ticket instead. Next year though. I’m “budgeting” for the trip and a season ticket at the new arena.

    • habs1992 says:

      Fighting has a impact on the game. Remember when Prust fought Lucic last year and lost but it wasnt the point, the point was the spirit he showed fighting a much tougher Lucic, but during the Intermission, Michael Therrien called out the players and pleaded a rally cry around the Prust fight, we were losing going into the third. We came back and won that game and the reason why, The Prust fight.
      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

      • Luke says:

        It may. It may not.

        The Bruins won that fight. Shouldn’t that have also bolstered them on to victory?

        It’s hard to quanitfy.

        A Prust/Lucic fight isn’t the fight most people advocate removing from the game. It’s the staged stuff between 5 minute a night goons.

        I like the Prust/Lucic fights. I’d watch it intently. I think there should be tougher penalties for it.

  20. Ian Cobb says:

    HIO SUMMIT TOUR INFORMATION
    There are about 160 of us going to the Hall Of Fame Tour at the Bell Center Sat. 10:15am. You already have your tickets!

    Bell Center request to me is,– how many of us want to go to the Bell Center Tour for a special price of $6, right after the H of F tour.
    Please let me know who wants to go ASAP, so we can book you in. Anyone can come. Ian

  21. habs1992 says:

    Is it Saturday yet?

    I support Carey Price
    “Habs Insider”

  22. Danno says:

    Thank you to the players and management of the Canadiens for bringing a little bit of joy to the people of Lac Megantic.

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  23. Strummer says:

    For those of you who think the Toronto media supports Randy Carlyle’s thuggery and no ones talking about the Parros incident in Toronto- see the this Toronto Star editorial and cartoon.

    http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorial_cartoon/2013/10/03/editorial_cartoon_october_4_2013.html

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  24. Luke says:

    Regarding that phot:
    Why is DD in the crowd reaching over the glass to fist bump that Habs player?

  25. Mattyleg says:

    Morning everyone!
    Just giving a big collective yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnn to everyone who, still, after one game, is saying:

    “X needs to be better.”
    “If Y carries on like he did in the first game, it’s going to be a sh!t season.”
    “I’m not looking forward to Z’s work ethic if the first game was anything to go by.”

    My favourite part is the “I know we’re only one game into the season…” preamble at the beginning of the post.
    It’s like the famous “Now, I’m not racist…” beginning to the choicest morsels of racism.

    It certainly will be a long season, but it won’t have anything to do with how well or badly our players play, because it’s all the same to a great deal of posters here.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • krob1000 says:

      But Matty we only have one game to talk about? Should we put the site on hold until the gellin period is over! We also had the preseason to look at some lines and most of the team is from last season..so this isn;t exactly like a brand new group of guys we are talking about here. Most of us have seen 99 percent of the games hteyhave played in a Habs jersey. When comparing them to other teams or seeing where they fit in the pecking order may be a little different because we don’t follow them as closely but any of us hockey nerds on here have seen virtually everything there is to be seen re our palyers to formulate those opinions. You are right some are out to lunch and some things myself and you say are out to lunch too….but I don’t know what else to talk aobut…seems any topic you talk about and someoen says ok let it go…..then provide fresh topics…people will come…go the distance…..until then we have nothing else to talk about.

      • Mattyleg says:

        We can talk about plenty of things that don’t involve lambasting our players/management/zamboni-drivers after one game of REAL competition.

        Preseason doesn’t count for anything, as the players aren’t really playing hard. The only people who take pre-season games seriously are cusp players like Tinordi, Bournival, and Beaulieu. Everyone else; it’s just a scrimmage. Hardly something worth in-depth analysis, and definitely not something that should have any bearing on real-season analysis.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • krob1000 says:

          But the zamboni driver is soft. He gets pushed around and almost always has to do an extra lap because he can’t create his own lanes at his size. He is old and slow and we should trade him while he still has value. Calgary has a really young zamboni driver who is working at the practice facility but deserves the starting gig…poorly mishandled from the get go but great pedigree. Won the 2008 World Junior zamboni race and has a great lap accuracy rating. We could probably pry him away for next to nothing. Maybe our driver a 2nd and DD?

          • Luke says:

            If he had cleaned the ice properly the puck wouldn’t have bounced on Markov, and led to the breakaway…

          • Mattyleg says:

            Yeah yeah, the ice is always cleaner on the other rink…
            I just think we need to be patient with our driver.
            He’s great in the garage.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Cal says:

      Shall we all just put on our red white and blue glasses and only post rah-rah comments, then?
      The Habs have not been improved by one iota. What we saw last playoffs is what we have to cheer for.
      Lots of fans here are cheering on the young players, realizing the older ones are pretty much average and not game changers (unless it’s in a negative way).
      I cheer for the team and am happy when they do well. It’s just that it’s been a looooong time since the Habs have done well. The 2010 playoffs will be 4 years in the past this spring. 21 since the Cup. I feel I’ve been very patient. No longer.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Oh come on, Cal.
        We played great last year, but got injuries to crucial players at the worst possible time.
        All last season was great; more often than not, I walked away from watching a game feeling happy/very happy.

        And you can’t be patient anymore?
        All you can do is be patient, because there is absolutely nothing that you can do to change anything.

        Might as well make yourself happy by looking at the good rather than making yourself unhappy by looking at the bad, you know?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Chris says:

      Yet complaining about the complainers day after day is enlivening.

      I get your point, Matty. But hold the mirror up…the endless bellyaching about the endless bellyaching is more than a little hypocritical.

      Just let it go and add people to your internal ignore list. It is much more efficient, ultimately.

      • krob1000 says:

        Holy crap Chris…I was really excited after your post for a second I thought there was an ignore function for real i had been missing…was pretty excited..then read “internal” lol

        • Chris says:

          My ignore list has gotten stupidly long over the years. I figure it is only fair, as I am absolutely positive I populate more than my fair share of them too. :)

      • Mattyleg says:

        Meh, I only grace HI/O with a fraction of the annoyance I truly feel.
        And rarely.
        Just think someone needs to keep posters self-aware from time to time.

        Point taken.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  26. La Duke 16 says:

    ***Headline Alert***

    We are still in last place in the division after last night
    2 out of 4 of our lines came to play in Game 1 – and they weren’t the first or second line!
    We will be contending for the last 2 playoff spots
    Price played well – but not well enough.
    There are players on this team that everyone likes – but are well past there prime and need to move on.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Yeah, exactly!
      Let’s be like one of those teams that has nobody over the age of 30!!
      That’ll be great!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • La Duke 16 says:

        It’s called “Building for Success”.

        We have a roster that is trying to just make the playoffs.

        Bad Knees Markov
        Bad Arms Gionta
        Midget, Midget, Midget forwards….

        • Mattyleg says:

          Right.
          Get rid of everyone who isn’t playing well now because they never will.
          Great plan.
          Get rid of players who everyone (including their teammates) likes because they are “past their prime.”

          If you want to ‘build for success’, which is your motto, you need a strong core of veterans.
          I feel stupid for even having to tell you that.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Luke says:

          Bad knees Galchenyuk and Emelin…

          oh wait…

        • The Jackal says:

          Haha sure, we are not building for success, just trying to make the playoffs, why would you even think or really believe that?

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  27. Bash says:

    Can we agree that the repeat offenders who are only dressed to fight/injure, must be dealt with first? Maybe something like this…

    First fight – game misconduct
    Second fight – game misconduct and one game suspension (no pay, no cap relief) No fine for team
    Third fight – game misconduct and three game suspension (no pay, no cap relief) 25,000 fine for team against cap
    Fourth fight – game misconduct and five games (no pay, no cap relief) 50,000 fine for team against cap
    Fifth fight – 10 game suspension, 100k fine against cap

    I would also be in favour of carry over from previous season in some manner.

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      There. Done. Solved. And the Leafs have to go back to the drawing board, replace three useless players on their roster.

      And the Bruins’ Milan Lucic and Sean Thornton who we’re always reminded aren’t goons but actually pretty good players now have to play hockey, they can use their great size and strength to bodycheck, but not start fights against smaller players.

  28. frontenac1 says:

    Plex must have been tossed out of the circle 5 times last game. Same as last year. What the hell does he say to the linesman anyway?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have wondered as well, doubt there are stats on # of times thrown out of the circle, but Plex indeed seems to get tossed out a great deal. Perhaps the linesmen are jealous of his turtlenecks?

      • Eddie says:

        Plekanec needs to be better in the face off circle. He is being paid big money, and he is sold here as one of the great two way centres in the game. His game levelled off a few seasons ago and what you see now is what you get.

        The reason why he’s being thrown out of the circle is because he’s being caught cheating by the linesmen.

        We will win our next Cup when Galcheyuk is our top scorer. The sooner we begin playing him big minutes the better.

  29. wjc says:

    Friday morning musings:

    Roy is entertaining, but that will wear thin as players tire of too much emotion.

    Parros will be fine, accidents happen.

    People seem to get an awful lot out of one game.

    Try not to ignore other teams injuries, losses etc.

    Leafs have an interesting team, will be tough to beat, but not impossisble to beat.

    Gomez and Thomas off to a good start.

    Fighting is fun, as long as I am not in the fight. No one turns away during a fight, just the way it is. Fighting can also be boring if there is no emotion. If you do not like it do not support it with your money, see how far it gets you.

    wjc

  30. The Machine says:

    Just reading a few comment this morning…

    Some guys seem to know the game of hockey and the canadiens roster better the whole management team in Montreal. Come on!!! The young guns are racking up points, the team is looking good. I mean the rookies are developing better than they have in the last 15 years. Stop complaining about anything and everything. Let the coaches do their job and START CHEERING!!!!

    Just my two cents.

    25th cup, coming up!

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      Well said.

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    • Cal says:

      Sorry, machine, we ain’t robots. ;)

    • BJ says:

      He is a .48 cent donation (rounding it out to .50 cents). What is the point of this blog if there is no a variety of opinions?

      • The Machine says:

        The point is, if Eller is playing great at 14 minutes a game doesn’t mean he’ll be outstanding at 18… if Galchenyuk is playing good hockey on the wing playing 13 minutes a game, doesn’t mean it’ll be good for him playing 20 minutes…

        Teams that have done that we’re rebuilding and didn’t have many good veteran players to surround the rookies. We happen to have a very good mix of rookies and vetereans up front. Why would anybody want Eller, Galchenyuk and Gallagher face the top d pairing when they are havnig success face less talented defensman playing less time!?

        Just look at Jordan Staal…. didn’t he look good in Pittsburgh playing 3rd center?!

        We don’t need to always second guess everything the coachs do to have an interesting debate or a variety of opinion…

        Just sayin’

        25th cup, coming up!

  31. Habfan10912 says:

    Brady Vail scored again last night. 3g 4a +8 through 4 games.

  32. krob1000 says:

    Eller lost his lead in the scoring race last night…Washington has some high powered offence again with an interested Ovechkin and Grabovski playing with like minded players.

  33. PrimeTime says:

    @ Shane Oliver
    I support your efforts to rid the NHL of dangerous fighting in relation to concussions. Fighting will not be removed from the game but hopefully the so called “staged” fighting can be and goons for that purpose will not be hired. The best method to get there is for the officiating to be drastically improved. I’m not sure if 4 officials on the ice is the most effective way to manage the modern game. Too many penalties are not called and as these build up the player frustration grows and eventually it boils over into retribution. If cheap shots and all penaltieswere enforced then the officials could “police” the game, and not the players. Remove 1 Ref from the ice and put him and another in an overhead position to watch the play from a broader perspective and have immediate access to video. Call all incidents and have oversight of the game to clean it up. This will reduce the need to have fights and goons.

    • krob1000 says:

      You will still have teams having less skilled guys taking out more skilled guys. They can sacrifice a pawn for a bishop and eat the suspension. The other team is now a non contender. There is no easy fix…I agree the disciplinary issues are a nightmare but they will not eliminate players from doing waht they do to gain an ede. These guys have been raised that winning is everything…they will do what it takes to win. There is an underlying respect and code within but there will always be people to break that code. So they fight…they do not use their sticks or blades as weapons and in most cases the combatants are willing. Those who commit the foul in most cases realize they should answer for it a…(ie Rene Boruque vs Hendricks). Washington handled that with class and so did Bourque..he made a dirty hit, was suspended and had to fight Hendricks…he did…and he won the fight….but Washington was satisfied he answered …he came away unscathed but the fact he willingly answered with a guy he should have lost to was enough for them to let it die with him.

      • PrimeTime says:

        In your example, and I think these are rare, proper punishment of the infraction should be a sufficient deterrent but it he incidents that do occur should be more severely punished so the opposing team is satisfied.

        I, for one, do not believe that teams or players will target the opposing teams “star”players to gain an edge. If this is the case and it is allowed then the NHL is truly bushleague. You could say in any pro sport that the same could occur. The players don’t do it! They have respect for the game. It what sports is about. I’m sure the NHL and the PA could easily agree to proper punishment to attempts for intentional injury.

      • Cal says:

        The only thing owners understand is dollars. Teams should be fined- big time- to get the game back on track.
        Of course, the NHL doesn’t have common sense. If they did, Colon Campbell would be long gone and there would be a REAL player safety committee, not a joke of one.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Great post PT. Wonderful “out of the box” suggestions.

    • dsturge10 says:

      I agree with PT and have been saying the samething for a long time. The 4 ref system does not work! Period. The ref in the corner never calls the penalty on a play in that corner, it’s the ref at center. As a result too much is missed and players boil over. Unfortunatley, that other ref will never be removed from the game. Good luck getting that approved by the Union.

      “We don’t feel the pressure. We apply the pressure.” – Michel Therrien

    • I love it, and I’m all for making the game better, but too may refs would sow the game down.

      Unfortunately there are just too many different personalities on the ice. I believe unless the NHL completely bans fighting there will always be a fight. No big deal, some of those punks need an adjustment, but the type of fights like staged and fighting because I guy got checked it wrong.

      I don’t have a solution, but someday fighters will have to work for a living cause it won’t be in the NHL.

      No fighting in baseball, no fighting in football, those sports are just as hard to play as hockey. Sure they have little tiffs here and there, but nothing like hockey.

      OK no more from me. I have kids to paint. Great work!

      Shane Oliver
      Twitter @Sholi2000
      http://www.Sholi2000.com
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  34. Maritime Ronn says:

    Noticing we are getting into jurisdiction taxation issues again

    Last year KPMG did a study and a simple graph to show how net incomes are affected in each NHL city

    http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/

    Some of the swings are significant and it does not take into account indirect taxation on goods purchased.

    EX.
    A player Earning $4M Gross in Florida will net almost $400,000 more vs. playing in Montreal

    • BJ says:

      A good post, thanks. It is a significant disadvantage to 5 of the 7 Canadian teams. Do we (Canadian teams) not contribute a significant amount to the NHL revenue sharing program. You would think that this argument could be used as leverage to request the NHL to balance the taxation/salary cap ratio, so that it does not favor the lower taxation jurisdictions. Projecting a 70 million cap that would give Florida a 4.5 million dollar advantage over the Habs.

  35. Bill says:

    I am honestly glad you feel better now, Mr. Biter!

  36. Price07 says:

    Ya since we don’t have anything new to talk about…my lingering impressions from tuesday…

    -DD sucks
    -Does Briere have anything left?
    -Lars Eller is a beast
    -Who the hell keeps changing the goal song?
    -Did the habs actually win all their fights for once?!?! (minus the incident…)

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      - Agreed.
      - Yes.
      - Agreed. Don;t discount the contributions of his line mates. The “kid” line will be the #1 line by game 82.
      - French People.
      - Yes, but in a sick twist of fate our toughest guy in 10 years got taken off on a stretcher. Tinordi is a monster and only 19.

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  37. Luke says:

    Well, Good Morning folks.

    How odd to have a four day break after game one of a season with a condensed schedule.
    Looking forward to Saturday and some new hockey drama to discuss.

    Icedogs won last night. 4-2. First win of the season (1-3-1). A rather lacklustre game. And no fights. :(

    Now, lets give PK 25 minutes a night and Eller/Galchenyuk top minutes & the PP. Play Gallagher up there for most of it, but on occassion sub in Briere (especially on the PP) and MaxP.

    Play Eller with Plex on the PK. (with PK).

    Give Tinordi plenty of time too.

    Enough of this protecting the young. Hockey’s become a young man’s game.

    The key to winning seems to be top end talent on low dollar contracts. You can’t protect Galchenyuk until he’s making $5 mil and then try and find a supporting cast that fits under the cap!

    oh, and suck it Philly (and Toronto)!

  38. JO says:

    The Habs are a great bunch of Guys. It’s too bad they get injured so easily. I just hope they have a good enough season to make the playoffs. Maybe when and if we ever have a full healthy team we’ll be able to put a few wins together.

    would like to mention the great job the team did at the centre sportif Lac-Megantic in showing the people they support them …

  39. Bill says:

    @BJ:You’re absolutely right. Just as the salary cap is adjusted to adhere to a single currency, it should also be adjusted to accommodate varying tax rates.

    As it stands, teams in areas with higher taxation effectively have a lower cap limit, and this defeats the idea of having equalized resources available under the cap system.

    It would be complicated, but so is scheduling. Should’ve been done already.

  40. Habfan10912 says:

    It’s been 3 days and I’m still unhappy about Tuesday night. I apologize for being a Debbie Downer but has anyone in the press asked MT how in the heck DD could have more ice time then the best forward on the team Eller? And Eller even got some time killing penalties. And just for poops and giggles, 13 minutes for Galchenyuk? Really?
    I’m starting to feel like Timo.

    • krob1000 says:

      I think a lot of that was because there was no flow with the parade to the penalty box. All of the ice time was distirubted oddly because of the lack of flow.

    • Krob has a point, but I’m going with you’ll get ice time when you’ve earned it…. old school mentality.

      He’s changed some, but not completely. But hey he coached them to 2nd last season :) so what do I know haha

      Shane Oliver
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      Custom Sports Figures
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    • Luke says:

      Devils Advocate:

      Was Eller a beast because his time was limited, thus he wasn’t tired/was motivated? We don’t know what he would have done with 18 minutes, but we do know what he did with 14…

      (Blah blah blah blah… see my above post. Ride the horse into the Ground).

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Luke

        To also consider
        The Eller line did not have to deal with the Top pairing D from the other team

        Let’s take a Boston example

        How would they do going up against Chara/Boychuck all night vs. McQuaid /Krug?

        • Luke says:

          True enough. And Bergeron…

          I didn’t watch the matches closely enough to be honest.

          But if Carlyle didn’t switch his top pair (Whoever they are… Phaneuf and Gunnarsson?) to cover Eller, we’ll he’s just as bad as MT!

        • krob1000 says:

          not so well…but Pleks or Dd would have a field day! That is the benefiot of depth…my only issue is witht he muscle and worker distribution. The team has 11 guys who can be top 9 forwards including Prust and MOen….I think more balance is needed myself. Have Prust and Moen playng with two offensive guys and do the heavy lifting…they are not bad enough offensively that they will drag a line down if only one is on a line. In fact, White could do the same. I would prefer they distribute those guys so there is an aggressive forechecker on each line and someone to be there as backup so every line can comfortably attrack the net and fight for loose pucks to the whislte and a milisecond beyond it.

    • Cal says:

      Say it ain’t so, Jim!!

  41. krob1000 says:

    Are those practice lines right? White on two lines?

  42. Phil C says:

    Watched some of the Calgary game. They reminded of the Senators a few years ago when they dumped all their veterans, so everyone thought the would be even worse. Instead started playing better. Sometimes you need a good purge, let new leaders emerge. I’m not saying the Habs need to do this, but it’s a good move to keep in the playbook if things go off the rails.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Speaking of dumping and purges I just dumped Bill and DDO down the Ceramic Throne with some other stuff and feel much better and have lost my so called anger.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

      • Ah funny stuff right there. Thanks for the chuckle. I like Bill, so his opinion means something to me….it’s wrong but I like him haha! :)

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
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        • Mr. Biter says:

          Hi Shane,
          Just seems like the anti fighting posters are the first to start throwing barbs when you don’t agree with them. I mean 3 days and your still whining about the accident Parros had in his fight.
          You feeling okay these days since we last talked?

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

  43. BJ says:

    @Maritime Ronn (the thread ended I couldn’t reply). Has Crosby resigned with the Pens? I was under the impression he was a Habs fan growing up. Even though not exactly a local boy he would be a welcomed addition. I think a part of the problem of getting local players to sign here is that they must also feel a certain sense of loyalty to the team that originally drafted and signed them. Especially if they are producing they would be treated well and feel both “at home” and loyal at the same time.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      BJ
      Yes he did extend with the Pens until 2024-2025
      12 years-$104,400,000

      http://www.capgeek.com/player/476

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Bruce. I think you got some of it. Do you think the tax consequence in Quebec has an impact as well? And the Press in Montreal seems to be a little more aggressive then that in other cities with the exception perhaps of Toronto. Add to that your theory of loyalty and the history of the US vs CAD dollar and the picture becomes clearer, huh?
      CHeers.

      • BJ says:

        Morning Friend (afternoon here). I suggested a few days ago, that the Habs should lobby the league to “equalize” the taxation, by allowing teams that are in a jurisdiction where taxation is not a favorable venue for players to sign in, should balance it out by having a net salary cap taking into consideration the tax disadvantage. The Habs are subsidizing (as well as the fans) some of the weaker teams with the revenue sharing.

  44. HabinBurlington says:

    Like it or not Roy managed to put Avalanche in the news in Denver. Given the start of the Broncos, Roy has reminded all hockey fans in the area that he is back in town. Probably not a bad thing from a business perspective.

  45. DAVE. N says:

    Minnesota signed Pomminville to a 5 year deal.for $28 million.Was he really worth that type of money? Perhaps because he played for Buffalo for so long, I never had him on the radar

  46. BJ says:

    Regarding the Parros incident. I think he will be fine as the accident was not a knockout by Orr but an unfortunate meeting with the ice. I read an interesting observation by Georges Laraque as he commented on the accident. He says that despite having done well in both battles that Parros seems to leave himself out of balance trying to get that last punch in. I checked out some of his fights and he does seem to be not well “grounded” on his skates. I suppose if you are a designated fighter that it might be wise to look into the balancing aspect.

    WHY ARE HEMORRHOIDS CALLED “HEMORRHOIDS” INSTEAD OF “ASTEROID’S”?

  47. DipsyDoodler says:

    I was a big supporter of Patrick as GM or coach of the Habs.

    But how do two wins in Denver account for more than Therrien’s taking the Habs from last to 2nd?

    • SlovakHab says:

      He won twice in the only game they played so far?

    • zephyr says:

      roy is a hothead. mtl doesn’t want a sideshow like that. roy hasn’t gotten used to the incompetent officiating yet either. I realize i’m doing a disservice to the word ‘incompetent’.
      I say get rid of the 2 refs completely. have a couple guys next to the penalty box with a tv monitor & let them call the penalties. they could review anything they want. less congestion on the ice too. if the coach doesn’t like the call, he can remotely trigger a bucket of cold water to be dropped on those guys. maybe an electric shock would be better. be nice to have some accountability. fans would love it. i know I would.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Dipsy

      We’ll never know if Patrick would have been a great Habs coach, yet his demands to have power over player personnel issues was a no go with the Habs.
      It will be interesting to see how that works out as usually coaches are about the “Now”, while GMs have to answer both the “Now” and the future.

      Then again, this is Patrick.
      A guy who just knows how to win in everything he does as a sports individual, and it just may work out.

      It’s not as if he is re-inventing the wheel
      Several NFL Head Coaches such as Bill Belichick and Andy Reid to name just a few are thoroughly involved in the Draft, Trades, and all player personnel moves.

  48. Maritime Ronn says:

    Not sure if this was mentioned, yet George Parros actually showed up at the Brossard training facility Wednesday morning after spending time at the hospital Tuesday night.

    Whenever George gets cleared to play sometime in the future, he will have a big decision to make that being can he continue to handle the psychological aspects of his ‘job’ after that horrific experience?

    The physical part of the game is one aspect, yet his specific ‘job’ is quite different vs. a regular hockey player.

    Imagine for a moment his pre game thoughts.
    It’s not about making that great pass or scoring a goal in the top shelf.

    No, George has to look at the lineup of the other team and decide who he needs to drop the gloves with – all that, in front of 18,000 people, and millions of others watching television.
    Then he has to figure out how not to get hurt again, and if he experiences another concussion, how that could affect the rest of his life

    What to do, George?
    One would believe that a $950,000 Salary along with recognition and public adulation might be difficult to walk away from….then again, you only have 1 Princeton educated brain.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Parros has a company called Violent Gentleman. I don’t think he minds getting hit in the face too much. Some brains are wired like that.

    • zephyr says:

      parros will be fine. it was a fluke. he beat orr twice b4 he fell. it was orr being on the ropes that caused it. it’d be diff if he was beaten badly but he was doing great. he’s going to be useful against ottawa, boston, buffalo & the leafs.

    • I’m not going into fighting in the NHL as it will turn me into a raging online lunatic. But I will comment one thing.

      Back in Feb 2010, my son at 3am in the morning saw me on the bathroom floor because my heart stopped beating because my brain told it to. Matthew saw what concussions can do to a person and when you watch my boy play hockey, he leads the team in scoring, and doesn’t throw one hit. Ask him why, and he says he doesn’t want to hurt anyone. Parros the other night guaranteed one thing. While 21 thousand fans were cheering his fights, I know one little boy who saw him on the ice who will play hockey the proper way. His son.

      I absolutely hate seeing these kids fight (junior, NHL). Every hit to the head is a bad one. It’s unknown hit to the head that ruins you for life. It’s a gamble these guys take, and I don’t support it.

      Olympics! Best hockey on the planet, that’s what we should be striving for.

      It’s 2013, times change and the NHL will eventually change with it.

      Back to Hockey; After a few days of watching other teams play, there are a whole lot of teams ready to play! Yikes.

      Shane Oliver
      Twitter @Sholi2000
      http://www.Sholi2000.com
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    • Luke says:

      I wonder if the cause of the concussion being the fall and contact with the ice (indirectly caused by fighting – ‘hey, anyone can fall and hit the ice like that!’) as opposed to a punch (directly caused by fighting) will make it easier to get back at it.

      But these guys, smart or not, are wired differently. George has made a career doing the most dangerous job, in the most premier league on Earth. It’s in his DNA.

      He’ll be back at it, and he play the same.

      Max isn’t afraid of Chara, Eller didn’t shy away from the centre of the ice and Orr certainly hasn’t backed down from any and all fights.

  49. zephyr says:

    one thing I noticed is that the habs dmen almost never get galchenyuk the puck moving out of their zone. he’s begging for it & he’s often dynamite when he gets it. i’d like to see them feed him the puck rather than starve him like they are now.
    i’d also like to see bourque up with dd & max. dd is more effective with 2 big linemates. play briere & gionta with pleks because they all just run around anyway. this way they don’t even have to make the pretense of going into the tough areas.
    gallagher needs to have a bodyguard on the ice with him. prust, bournival & gallagher would have a lot of energy & sounds nice. put moen up with eller & galchenyuk. they could use his toughness too. max, dd & bourque. pleks, gionta & briere. there is no 4th line then. you’d have to switch up moen & gallagher to fit parros in.
    I hope emelin comes back early. diaz moves back with tinordi. that’ll be better for him & for markov.

  50. Marc10 says:

    I loved Roy’s debut in Denver. He wins, he rips something off its hinges, he puts hockey back on the front page. The St Pat hat trick!

    • SlovakHab says:

      Hahahaha!!!! True

    • I thought he looked foolish. Grown man acting like someone took his ball. He represents the Colorado Avalanche. You don’t like something on the ice, sort it out. It was embarrassing to me and to be honest, I was waiting the entire game for it to happen. Almost choreographed like wrestling. That hit was nasty, but let his players sort it out. Composure, take a number, and beat them on the scoreboard (which they did anyways).

      Shane Oliver
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      • SlovakHab says:

        I see both sides. Funny side (Roy is back) which made me chuckle when I watched the video.
        I can also see embarrassing side, but I would feel it more if he coached the Canadiens.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Respectfully disagree.

        Every coach in the NHL has lost it at one time or another
        ( See Lindy Ruff-donuts)

        Patrick won’t do that every game – he knows if he does, that will get stale awful fast and he’ll lose the room, yet you can bet he was sending a message to his younger guys that being:
        ” I have your backs”

        • True Ron. I remember Trembly’s first game. Probably the last time we beat them opening night. haha He was cheering like a fan. Management sorted him out and he never did it again. It will be interesting to see how often Patrick lets loose over something that happens every single game.

          Shane Oliver
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          • Maritime Ronn says:

            hi sholi

            I remember that game and his high 5 to the president Ronald Corey back then who sat right behind the bench – a place he should have never been causing the Patrick Roy trade

            What I look forward to is what will Roy’s reactions be when the team goes on its inevitable prolonged losing streak.

  51. Maritime Ronn says:

    Once upon a time in the NFL when a QB was drafted, he was not expected to start for 3-4-5 years because the ‘old’ belief was that the Rookie needed to be ‘Protected’ and should not be ‘Rushed’ god forbid he would make a mistake.

    This ‘old time thinking’ has been replaced with Progressive management/coaching where 1st year picks are playing right away – especially at the QB position, Corner, or for that matter, any other position.

    The feeling is these athletes are smart, and the ONLY way to learn is play – make some mistakes -Learn from the mistakes – move forward and grow.
    A few examples last year were Andrew Luck, RGIII, and what about Seattle’s Russel Wilson.

    Of course when a team is a solid Super Bowl contender with ‘proven’ veterans, the rookie break in is somewhat tougher.

    Circling back to the NHL, there are really only a handful of teams – perhaps 4-6, that are serious legitimate Cup contenders where even highly touted rookies would have difficulty fighting for minutes or even making the team.

    The Habs are NOT one of those teams…

    Is John Tavares a bad hockey player because he played 18:00 per game in his rookie season?
    Is Steven Stamkos hindered today because he played 15 minutes in his rookie season, then 20 minutes the following year?

    What about Alex Barkov and his 15:34 last night with 1 goal +1 in a 4-2 Panthers win ( and Tim Thomas was .926 SP)
    Or Nathan MacKinnon playing 14:31 in his 1st game.
    Or 19 year old Winnipeg Dman Jacob Trouba that played 25 minutes the other night and was named 1st Star.
    Or Seth Jones playing 18:42 +2.

    It becomes difficult to understand the Habs philosophy.
    Regarding Galchenyuk, it would be easy to understand him not playing Center if Beliveau and Lemaire were in front of him.
    That is clearly not the case – not even close.

    Regarding Tinordi and Beaulieu, it would be easy to understand if Savard, Robinson, and Lapointe were in front of them and the Habs had just won 3 Stanley Cups in a row.
    That is clearly not the case – not even close.

    Stop with the ancient philosophy.
    Play the young guys!

    • SlovakHab says:

      Are you suggesting that David Desharnais is not as good equivalent to Beliveau or Lemaire? :D

      Some good points there though. However, bringing very young players in massive markets like Montreal, Toronto or Boston hasn’t always helped these young guys (Luke Schenn, Guillaume Latandresse, Sergei Kostitsyn, Tyler Seguin, …)
      Detroit has shown that the other way works too. Keep them in minors for longer… Also, I’m yet to see Edmonton, Colorado or Islanders dominate after they played these high draft picks in the league early.
      Like we have seen in the past, young players can start pretty hot but then may have difficulty keeping up with 82 game season. Playing them in AHL or managed minutes in NHL still makes sense to me.

      • Mick says:

        More to do with gate money in the post season.
        They will do anything to get in. If playing third and second string players will get you to the cash cow, then that’s why the rookies sit.

        • SlovakHab says:

          Someone needs to make money so that we can keep teams like Nashville or Florida in the league.
          So that they can draft Barkovs, Huberdeaus and Stamkoses.

          Imagine 30-team league in the past.

          Jean Beliveau – Colombus Blue Jackets legend
          Guy Carbonneau – Carolina Hurricanes first line center
          Bob Gainey – 10 years as a captain of Florida Panthers
          Rocket Richard – legendary sniper of Pittsburgh Penguins (drafted first overall after Pens scored record low in points)

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Hi Mick

          Here’s what the new CBA says about playoff gate money:

          “For each Playoff Game that a Club hosts in its home arena during a League Year, such Club shall contribute the dollar value equivalent of thirty-five (35) per cent of the Playoff Gate Receipts” to the pool of money.”

          Here’s a catch for teams that don’t seel out which may never be the case for the Habs/leafs…

          That 35% is calculated as if the arena is at full capacity.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Slovak
        Points taken, yet the guys you mention all had ‘issues’ mostly to do with basic character.
        Do you see that in Galchenyuk?
        As for Schenn, his confidence was destroyed by goalies that couldn’t stop a beach ball and a coach that just didn’t like him

        • SlovakHab says:

          I don’t see many issues with Galchenyuk. He seems focused, professional and very motivated. However, it is rare to see huge market teams, as well as perannial playoff teams, give teenagers big minutes with success.
          The examples that you made were mostly non-playoff examples and teams where crazy journalists and fans won’t follow your every step.
          Teenagers Stamkos, Huberdeau, Tavares did not make postseason, and so wouldn’t Habs with Galchenuyk being no.1 center.
          In an extreme case, we would probably see a young captain like Landeskog struggle in Montreal, not making playoffs every year and not speaking French.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Montreal did not make the playoffs during the last full 82 game season.
            Yes, they had a great run last year, yet that playoff birth should have asn asterisk beside it as it was 34 games less than a full season.
            Let’s see what happens this year.

      • DAVE. N says:

        That emoticon saved you about the DD comparison!

  52. Bill says:

    Oh, and FIRST.

    (this morning)

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      So what are your thoughts on fighting after a good night’s sleep sir? Have you finally come to your senses and agree that two guys punching each other in the face and intentionally trying to give each other concussions is a good thing for hockey?

      • SlovakHab says:

        I wonder why using sticks in hockey fights is not allowed?
        Use one as a ‘bō’ staff, or break it in half before the fight and you will have 2 small wooden swords. You can stab your opponent.
        If we have fighting in hockey like no other sport, then let’s do it properly at least.

        Fighting in hockey is great, because meatheads like Colton Orr can make millions of dollars trying to knee skilled players, then provoke fights and prevent other teams icing young players like Bournival on their 4th line to give them experience and managed minutes to grow as players.

      • Bill says:

        Haha, the humour of this place is what keeps me coming back :) Thanks Hobie.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Define morning

      Good morning Bill

  53. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @The Dude

    …Stephen, he looks much more like Frank than Woody

    …but, Woody had his payback with his young Korean squeeze

    …karma ! :)

  54. bwoar says:

    Guys, I just thought of a great topic for discussion: Should the NHL ban fighting? I’m surprised more people haven’t talked about this yet.

    “thoroughbred”

  55. JO says:

    Only two games, Roy looking great as a coach!!

  56. jols101 says:

    I hope Torts explodes in the post-game presser.

  57. RE: the fighting debate.

    When someone tells you why they don’t like something, they’re almost always right.

    When they tell you why you should change your mind to their side, they’re almost always wrong.

    A bit of a tweak on a Neil Gaiman saying. ;)

    DDonais

  58. MtlCANADIENS93 says:

    fleury looked solid tonight for the pens. OVIE looks like he find his form from the past, its gotta be the olympic year thats why!!

  59. jols101 says:

    It is so disheartening to see elite young talent like Barkov, Nichushkin, Mackinnon, Huberdeau, Yakupov etc. all getting 18-20 minutes a night with loads of PP time while Galchenyuk is getting 12-13 minutes.

    Almost makes me wish he got drafted by another team so at least I could see more of him. I would understand it if we had a great top 6 but we don’t and there is absolutely no reason not to play him more. Wish we had a different coach.

    • MtlCANADIENS93 says:

      mtl never gives there top rookies a chance! thats why half of them that are supposed to be elite superstars become busts bcz we dont give them a shot. theres a reason why we drafted him #3 overall so he should get the most opportunities as anyone on the team, but our coaches roll the lines like its minor hockey

      e.g leblanc

      • Marc10 says:

        Except for Latendresse who they rushed. That didn’t work out so well.

        And Detroit does the same thing. They keep guys in the AHL quite a while. Just ask Gustav Nyquist or Jimmy Howard or Thomas Tatar…

        I wouldn’t hit the panic button just yet.

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      Being 19 and ask to play 20 minutes in South Florida and in Montreal are two different things. The media, the fans, everything is different. Asking your veterans to take the bulk of the pressure is not a bad idea. His time will come.

    • Bill says:

      It’s the Michel Therrien Personal Development Program!

      He’s making them not only into better players, but better people.

      That takes time, and I don’t mean power play time.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • SlovakHab says:

      You clearly don’t like watching Montreal Canadiens postseason hockey, do you.
      Tell me how many teams with teenagers playing 18-20 minutes a night with loads of PP time make the postseason?

      • Habitforming says:

        That’s not a connection that makes your point valid. First, the only 18 years olds to make NHL rosters are usually a few guys in the top 5 of the draft. If you are picking in the top 5 you aren’t even close to a playoff team.

        Second, if that 18 year old is playing 18-20 mins per night its because that team has a massive hole in that position and teams with massive holes anywhere don’t make the playoffs.

  60. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    The reason I am against fighting is that it is too dangerous; especially considering that it not integral to playing the game. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I have one problem with those who are for it. They provide no solutions to making it safer for the fighters. All I read and hear is stuff like “they know the risk”, “they get paid well for the risk”, “necessary to police the game”, “protect better players”…etc. It seems that they care more about protecting the activity than its participants.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Mr. Biter says:

      For F@#ks sake get over it. Same whining for the last 3 years.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Perfect example of what I mean…LOL

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

        And therein is the eloquence of the pro-fighting faction. No wonder Cherry is their patron saint.

        I remember Dec. 31, 1975

        • Bill says:

          They get so angry … is there a correlation between personal anger levels and support for fighting, I wonder. It would make sense.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Mr. Biter says:

            2 of the same 3 people who continue to whine thread after thread about banning fighting. I just get sick and tired about reading their exact repeat posts. Until the NHL bans fighting (which I doubt they ever will do) Enforcers are needed. The Habs tried to go the no enforcer route and there was a continual parade to the infirmary caused by other teams “Bigger players” taking out smaller Habs with no fear of retaliation. Why did Gretzky score all those points and weighed about 165 lbs soaking wet? Mc Sourley or Semenko enforced frontier justice on anyone who took liberties with him.
            And now to the name calling, I am not angry, and don’t have an avatar showing some idiot screaming or a Brylcream commercial from the 50′s. My job tales me all over the world so I’m real happy there and also just to piss you off even more I’m a conservative. Also just taking a flyer on this your also “Anti Smoking Zealots” and I love my cigars.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

  61. JohnBellyful says:

    “The Canadiens hit the ice at 2:30 p.m. Thursday at the Centre Sportif Lac-Mégantic for a practice …”

    Boy, Orr’s really got into their heads.
    Or was it a show of solidarity with Parros?

    PS. I’m glad the debate over fighting has died down. It was taking time away from talking about “celebrities with near-perfect skin.”

  62. krob1000 says:

    Had so much fun the other night now going to CLB vs Habs…again terrible seats…can someone tell me how terrible!! sec 329…I know that is way up there and right at the end (at least where Habs shoot twice)….how bad will scoreboard be from there…will we be able to see far net? I just got 4 tickets there for nearly 100 bucks less than my two to opening night that were in corner in roughly same area

  63. Bill says:

    @krob: Don’t know why it would bother you if some people on this site are anti fighting. It’s just a web forum. And clearly a majority of fans agrees with you.

    But no, it doesn’t matter to me what 98% of anyone thinks. That’s not how I personally form my opinions and I don’t think it’s how anyone should form their opinions.

    • krob1000 says:

      It doesn’t bother me they are anti fighting….only the ones that totally ignore the hockey side of the debate and pretend it has no value from their perspective and plays no role in the game. I have 2 boys who play, I read Bob Mackenzies horrific story with his one son and I coach Minor Bantam Rep. I would prefer fighting never existed in all honesty…but it is impossible without decades worth of change and some dramatic shifts in respect and a basic reinvention of the sport. I just don’t like it when people pretend it has no value to the players when clearly it does at that level.
      It also has value to fans…personally I am a non violent person and couldn’t fight my way out of a wet paper bag on the ice…..I just think it is crazy the manner in which people are brushing it off…..not thinking about the hundreds of millions of dollars and work and dedication it takes these guys to get there….they need to police themselves as has been demonstrated over time….if people acknowledge that I don’t respond. Only to the ones with no real hockey answer and just speaking pure pacifism which in a sport like hockey is near impossible at this point in time….it will take this generation and another at least for it to happen if ever IMO.

  64. krob1000 says:

    13 periods tonight…8 fights….players seem like changed people after the Parros incident.
    Funny thing is I really don’t care if there is any fighting…I personally prefer a skilled game. I just can’t believe how one sided and anti fighting without any real solution this site is the last couple of days. no one is looking at things objectively from the players side. Clearly their last poll of 98 percent was an indicator…and the suggestion it may have changed after the other day…all but squashed given the number of fights tonight…already.

    • The Dude says:

      Nothing surprises me about this site after last years smack down of PK Subban when some fans we’re calling him a “Fk’n N -word” for not starting the season…

      • krob1000 says:

        don’t remember it being that bad…yikes. Subban is a special player and his work ethic is why he is where he is…he worked harder duringthe pregame warm up the other night than many players do in a game and I am dead serious. Another great warmup guy is Munenori Kawasaki…another guy who works incredibly hard…he put himself thourhg an entire gym session in the outfield at one of the jays games I went to…I seriously think he should have showered and had a meal before playing he worked so hard before the game. Those guys earn my respect instantly…I would love to say I would be like them but knowing I likely wouldn’t be able to convince myself to if I achieved what they have is what makes them so special to me. Rudy, Rocky the great movies and characters…undedogs who don’t quit whose character is so admirable. I love hearing about how hard Michael Jordan practiced…or Sid Crosby or stamkos. I love hearing how hard Scotty Bowman skated the Habs. I love those stories. so to think people came on here in this day and age saying that about pk is sickening and I must have just shut that out of my memory.

      • Peter Young says:

        And then, when it turned out that P.K. wasn’t being greedy, as they claimed, they had the nerve to say shut up to people who called them on how wrong they had been, claiming they were starting trouble. Hypocrites all.

  65. Danno says:

    Chippy scores!

    Yotes 1 Rags 0

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    • krob1000 says:

      great comeback in Washington….Ovie looks incredible again…looks quick and enthusiastic again. An in shape Ovie in preparation for the Olympics is scary for the rest of the NHL again….he was enjoy the cheeseburgers but now that he appears to care again….Stamkos is in tough for the Richard trophy.

    • krob1000 says:

      wasn’t supposed to be a reply to you below..sorry about that…good for Chippy though

  66. Habitant in Surrey says:

    NEW YORK, N.Y. – Mia Farrow says in an interview with Vanity Fair that it’s possible her son with Woody Allen is instead Frank Sinatra’s.

    Farrow told the magazine that she and Sinatra “never really split up” and when asked if Ronan Farrow might actually be Sinatra’s son, she answered, “Possibly.”

    Ronan Farrow tweeted Wednesday: “Listen, we’re all ‘possibly’ Frank Sinatra’s son.”

    …My way, or the highway, I always say :)

  67. Haberoooo13 says:

    Lying by the hotel pool earlier here in Phoenix and who is also there? Brock Lesnar!
    I thought of self appointing myself as Hab official and ask if he wanted a 4th line role. But then remember I am against fighting.

    But man the dude is massive!

    Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  68. Maksimir says:

    Looking at the standings after one game… I think that’s where the Habs are going to end up finishing. There’s always net year.

  69. nychabsfan says:

    nychabshan

    I have this dreadful sinking feeling that wea re under a curse similar to what the Redsox went thru with the babe,in our case it is Patrick Roy.Also when you see Bergevin give Deharnais that kind of money and then will not sign Lecavaler because of the length of the contract it is really absurd.He gives Briere 8 mill fir 2 years,this man cannot see the forest for the trees and quite frankly his quebecois frugulness is going to bite him in the ass big time…

  70. Willy the bum says:

    Took a look at Roy’s reaction on last night’s game vs. the Ducks, and man, he’s full of pissin’ vinegar (in such a passionate way)

    If he’s done with the Avs, he’ll better come over to us in a sec!

  71. jols101 says:

    It took me a while, but just notice that Cammy is MIA for the Flames tonight. Did they trade him or is he injured?

    • Maksimir says:

      injured – bruised hand

    • Danno says:

      Michael Cammalleri (hand) is not practicing and is doubtful for the Flames opener Thursday.
      Coach Bob Hartley stated that he was more optimistic a week ago and is unsure if Cammalleri will be able to play this week. It was reported that Cammalleri has a serious hand injury and is having trouble holding his stick. Cammalleri is one of the few established offensive threats with the Flames and since Calgary is in a rebuild, chances are that he is dealt elsewhere at some point of the season, especially considering he is in the final year of his contract. Look for Cammalleri to get 25 goals and 55 points if he does not miss a lot of time this season. Sep 30 – 5:15 AM
      Source: Calgary Herald

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    • jols101 says:

      Cool. Thanks.

  72. JohninTruro says:

    Gomez scores Florida’s first goal of the year.

  73. jols101 says:

    Scott Gomez on pace for 82 goals this year. 1-0 Florida over Dallas.

  74. Danno says:

    Watching Boston win is no fun at all.

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  75. Habfan10912 says:

    Prust missed practice due to his Grandfather passing according to reports. That sucks.

    Not finding anything on Patches injury. Since he played in the third period I’d guess he’ll be in the lineup Saturday.


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