P.K. Subban in the media spotlight again at Habs practice

After having a day off on Thursday, the Canadiens hit the ice Friday morning in Brossard for a practice as they prepare to face the Stanley Cup-champion Chicago Blackhawks Saturday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Forward Max Pacioretty was given a second straight day off the ice so he could visit his wife, Katia, and newborn son in Connecticut. Pacioretty, who went straight from Philadelphia to Connecticut after Wednesday’s loss to the Flyers, was slated to return to Montreal Friday afternoon. Lorenzo Pacioretty was born on Dec. 23, weighing in at 8 pounds, 14 ounces and measuring 21 inches long.

The spotlight after practice was on P.K. Subban, who was benched for 10 minutes in the third period of Wednesday’s 3-1 loss in Philadelphia after taking an unnecessary roughing penalty.

“That’s the coach decision,” Subban told reporters in Brossard about the benching. “Listen, we’re running a team here and that’s what the verdict was. I just took it and when it was time to play I just went out there and did my thing.”

On his penalty, which came after he punched the Flyers’ Sean Couturier in the face during a scrum at the end of the second period, Subban said: “It’s a scrum. Sometimes emotions get the best of you. You’ve got to control that, especially at the end of the period. But we did a good job of killing it off at the start of the third. But like I said, right now we’ve got the best team in the world coming into our building on Saturday so that’s where my focus is.”

When told by a reporter that many fans think Therrien is sometimes too hard on him in particular, Subban responded: “Listen, he’s the coach and at the end of the day he’s got to make decisions in the best interests of the team. We’re running a team here. It’s not P.K.’s team. It’s not Carey Price’s team. It’s the Montreal Canadiens and everybody has to fall under the same rules. So that’s what it is. And if that happens to somebody else, then the same thing will happen.”

When asked if he has any hard feelings, Subban said: “Listen, I’ve said it before. My job is to play hockey. That’s what I get paid for. It’s not to express my emotions or even give my opinion. That doesn’t fall under, I think, what I get paid for and the same goes for everybody in this room. We get paid to play hockey. So my job is get ready for the game on Saturday.”

Coach Michel Therrien told reporters after practice that “I’ve got a great relationship with P.K.”

The coach added: “We communicate a lot. And he understands our decision (to bench him).”

Ryan White (upper-body injury) and Alex Galchenyuk (broken hand) didn’t take part in Friday’s practice. With Pacioretty also missing, here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked:

Briere – Plekanec – Gionta
Bourque – Eller – Bournival
Parros – Prust – Moen
Bournival – Desharnais – Gallagher

Emelin – Markov
Gorges – Subban
Murray – Bouillon

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

Therrien and Subban downplay benching, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Practice Notebook, Canadiens.com

Post-practice interviews (video), Canadiens.com

The man who keeps Brandon Prust in one piece, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Prust’s new buzz cut not a hit with his girlfriend, by Dave Stubbs

Junior coach helped build Subban into an Olympian, by The Gazette’s Stu Cowan

Therrien did his job by benching Subban, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Was benching Subban a smart move? (video), TSN.ca

A little humour as tempers rise over Subban’s latest benching, Stu on Sports blog

Hickey on Hockey Notebook, by Pat Hickey

Blackhawks Gameday Buzz, chicagoblackhawks.com

Blackhawks strive to get back to their game, Chicago Tribune

Diaz will play key role with Team Switzerland in Sochi, Canadiens.com

Team Canada’s salary-cap hit in Sochi would be $150,923,332, Stu on Sports blog


  1. DipsyDoodler says:

    Here’s a trade.

    Yakupov in exchange for free Molson beer at every Edmonton home game for the next 25 years.

    Do it Geoff.

  2. JUST ME says:

    Perfect timing for a game against the Black Hawks. Release the clichés ! Must play 60 minutes, no cheating allowed,must go all in ,can`t hide under a rock…

    Hopefully dreamers can admit that the Hawks are really better than the habs. I am a die hard fan but i can manage my expectations and know what our limits are.
    So aint no we should have won that game and bla bla bla.. We need everyone to give a complete and thourough effort and wish for a close game if we are to have any chance.

    This one more than others is a measuring stick and the result is not important really . It`s how we will manage to do on every little aspect of the game.

    Yes it can get ugly but at least it`s not as if we do not know exactly the strenghts of the opponent.

  3. HabFab says:

    PK is SO MUCH smarter then your average HIO poster that it is scary …. “sigh”

  4. Psycho29 says:

    Dave Stubbs‏ @Dave_Stubbs 2h
    Habs Therrien: “I have a great relationship with P.K. Subban. We talk a lot. He understands my decision and totally agrees.”

    • habcertain says:

      yes, I’m sure PK agrees with sitting half of a period, MT is delusional. I goes something like this:

      PK in his head: “ok, I just need to keep nodding my head until Bozo Le Clown stops talking….hmm I wonder where I will eat dinner tonight…. that was really a cute girl in the 3rd row last game….man does this guy have bad breathe”

      MT: “I am da boss…hunderstand PK”
      PK: “yes, yes, mon Captaine”.

  5. Eddie says:

    I think some people are too young to remember Therrien as he was 14 years ago, in 2000, when he last coached here. I guess you would have to be in your 30’s.

    I’ve known Therrien since his Major Junior days.

    Some young people on this site have not seen the “Full Therrien” yet.

    He’s classless.

    Don’t worry. You will.

    • shiram says:

      Could he have changed, if only slightly, or is he a leopard with his spots…

      • Eddie says:

        He’s trying to change, I’m sure.

        This is a man who was known to urinate on the stairs of his Junior bus while it was moving, because he didn’t want to walk to the back.


    • Habfan10912 says:

      I don’t know if he’s classless or not Eddie but IMO he over reacted the other night.

      • Eddie says:

        That was planned Jim. Thought out in advance. Calculated.

        The coaches believe that Subban is selfish and immature.

        It was all stated publicly, by Therrien, on RDS before he was hired.

        Yesterday, Benoit Brunet said that Subban is egotistical so e needs to be reminded that he is playing for a team. Yesterday. Calmly. And the other two agreed with him.

        There are dozens, hundreds of posters here who agree with that assessment of Subban.

        • dr. gesundheit says:

          “There are dozens, hundreds of posters who agree with that assessment of Subban”.

          Just hope that you’re not inferring that the assessment mentioned above reflects the opinion of posters here who are/were supportive of Therrien’s management of PK/his actions taken during the Flyer game resulting in the benching.

          Personally, I think PK (who as a very young Norris Trophy winner) is a refreshing change and is “off the charts” great as a player also as a personality (and hope he’s a Hab for life).
          Also, I’m not a fan of Therrien or his hiring. That said, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt considering the media circus and all the wild speculation from fans (witness the sh__storm here on HIO) which continually revolves around the Habs. (no concrete evidence to think otherwise)

  6. Pierre Maguire says:

    Keep the faith people!! I will be back later to post some wisdom. Just off the phone with my great and good friend Scotty.
    Tomorrow I’ll be meeting Mario for dinner. Mario was a great player, but an even better human being. And that’s what really matters.
    I’m still a little upset that Mario never hired me for his team in Pittsburgh. How can that be?

    Me loves everything Scotty and Mario.

  7. nek25plus says:

    What was PK supposed to say!? And if it’s a “team” concept, why didn’t they bench Gorges for his punch in the scrum!? Or why didn’t the refs also punish Gorges!?

    Let PK be PK, stop trying to change him.

  8. naweed235 says:

    Well for all of you with hissyfits re. the MT and PK situation, I invite you to go watch the full MT interview on RDS as some of the reporters asked all the “hard” questions and MT answered them

  9. Maritime Ronn says:

    Knowing this may be a controversial post , may I ask a few question of the learned and smart HIO posters?

    Somehow, it has become a “Given” that any Habs Coach moving forward, MUST be French speaking first, or at least be fluently Bilingual… and never an English unilingual, where French was not part of the heritage.

    The question becomes:
    Says Who?

    A loud, present PQ Separatist government government that won with 35% of the vote, that most proabably included tax takers vs. tax contributors?

    As is understanding from here, Quebec – and more importantly Montreal, is a vibrant society where Quebec Francophones have found their place as great entrepreneurs and business people during the past 40 years.

    Long gone are the days where uni-anglos were exempt because they worked at Morgan’s…or talented Quebecois were passed over for job promotions because of their family name.

    The question becomes, who decides the choice of the Montreal Canadien Coach, and WHY?

    The Habs are NOT unique to Montreal Quebec – they have branches from the stem throughout the rest of Canada, the USA, and even the world…including Europe and Russia, as only 1 former East Block nation.

    When was the last survey done to conclude only a Francophone would be accepted as a coach of the Habs?
    Has it been only RDS and other ‘media sympathizers’ driven?

    If the Habs ever had the opportunity to hire Babcock-Quenneville-Hitchcock-Tippet-Torts….when only a Benoit Groulx was available, would Molson be forced to hire the former, because of Bertrand Raymond and friends media pressure?

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …yup !

    • shiram says:

      I think Molson is keen on the French thing, as was evidenced in the 24CH.
      Beyond that though, I won’t speculate.

    • D Mex says:

      Says Geoff Molson, for one.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

      • D Mex says:

        @ Ronn :
        It appears you weren’t around when Molson initiated the process that included the search for a new GM. It was necessary for him to step up and clarify a number of issues that had served to alienate the Habs organization from the media, its own players, and its fanbase – which is largely francophone.

        As part of the search for the GM, he brought in Serge Savard, who was vocal in setting a tone on the language file as it relates to the Habs. As you may have heard, Geoff Molson is the principal owner, and he fully endorsed that tone.

        Your post is prefaced with the acknowledgement that it may be controversial. It is. It’s also insensitive – and just plain dumb.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • Just a Habs Fan says:

          How in hell do you arrive at that statement of his post being dumb……perhaps you have yourself mixed up there a bit. He only asked a question…..people like you are what makes this site less interesting than it once was.

          • D Mex says:

            It’s not complicated :
            Anyone who embarks on the path of posing rhetorical, politically charged questions about issues as sensitive as language is in the Province of Québec should think – twice if necessary – before posting. I’ve seen past examples of this guy’s posts, and he is not without common sense.

            You may choose to accept the opening preface of ” knowing this may be a controversial post ” as license to stir up language debate on a hockey blog, but I do not. It’s reckless and cheap, and particularly when the bombs are thrown from outside Québec, where most folks enjoy not having to navigate these sensitivities on a daily basis.

            Now, take another look at the calibre and context of ” questions ” you want to defend here, and then step up to say you would do the same thing in plain sight and within earshot of the faithful at the Centre Bell or McGill Stadium.

            ” Says Who ? ” … yeah, right …

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

    • Phil C says:

      Nothing stopping the Habs from hiring a unilingual anglophone, they did it already with Cunneyworth. The buck stops with Molson. Obviously he either agrees that the coach should be bilingual or he caved to the pressure. I think if he stood his ground, the controversy would have died down. If the Nordiques could hire Dave Chambers and Marc Crawford, surely the Habs could do the same if the will was there.

    • JUST ME says:

      The actual pressure came and still comes from french medias that can translate 29 other coaches but not this one.

      Furthermore, if you win we know that it does not really matter what language you speak right ?

      The thing is you see that the real issue is something we will not agree you and i but it`s been going on for ages so i do not take offense.

      It has to do with respect. In Montreal and in Québec the french language is the language mostly used and protected by provincial laws. I think that it`s a simple matter of respect to speak the native language dont`t you ? Now that brings back another issue. Why then can`t the coach learn a few basic sentences in french ? Is it too much to ask ?

      Being from the MTL area i know we are very welcoming to anglophones that make an effort, just an effort. Why is it too much to ask and why would i have to work in english if french is the daily language here ?

      Anyway i`m sorry i fell into your trap and did not want to refuel the issue . As you see i manage to write and be understood in english and am proud to be bilingual and if i could i would learn more languages. I just feel that in Mtl it is normal that it happens en francais as you expect things to be done in english at your home.

    • HabFab says:

      Says Geoff Molson… the end.

    • boing007 says:

      32%, not 35.

      Richard R

  10. aroma says:

    Having just read PK’s responses to questions at the practice, once again it occurs to me what a class act he is. Always seems to say the right thing and as far as I’m concerned, demonstrates impressive wisdom for a such a young man. Not to mention a great deal of patience with a rabid, out-for-sensation press corps.

  11. ClutchNGrab says:

    A team in Quebec City would be a nightmare for the Habs. All the hockey revenues from the province of Quebec and the Atlantic that is currently almost going 100% in the pocket of the organization would have to be split. Not 50-50, but still. Plus considering the Canadian dollar is going in down, the profits will go down as well.

    The only way I’m for this is if Markham or another Toronto suburbs or Toronto itself gets a team. At least their value will decrease as well.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …completely agree with You Clutch, and have long wondered why so many here want Quebec to return

      …great rivalry, but the economics of 2 teams in Quebec will hurt Molson in the pocket book big-time

      …the over-all economy of Quebec is living on borrowed time, people are leaving the Province in droves because of the highest taxes in North America

      …it would be asinine for Molson to support a new Quebec City franchise

  12. Habitant in Surrey says:


    Pat Hickey, The Gazette: “The word fan is a diminutive for the word fanatic, which the Oxford American Dictionary defines as “a person with excessive enthusiasm or zeal for something.”

    There was a lot of excessive enthusiasm in the wake of the Canadiens’ 3-1 loss to the Flyers Wednesday night in Philadelphia. There were calls for coach Michel Therrien to be fired because a) he benched P.K. Subban in the third period, b) he didn’t pull his goaltender for an extra attacker at the end of the game and/or c) he gave the players a day off Thursday when he should have had them bag-skating up the St. Lawrence.

    Fans are entitled to express their opinion, but most of the comments on talk radio and on The Gazette’s Hockey Inside/Out website ranged from the mildly uninformed to the outrageously stupid.

    Let’s start with L’Affaire Subban…. ”

    …essentially what I said yesterday, except Pat said it better

    …that’s why Pat gets paid, and I do not 🙂
    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

    …and, last, but not least: FREE P.K. !!!

    • The Jackal says:

      Yup, can’t put it clearer.
      But the way some of the fans reacted to Hickey’s article, you’d think he insulted a very personal belief of theirs.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      The excessive enthusiasm is the reason many people in the sport industry have a job.

      Including coaches, players and journalists.

      There is not as much excessive enthusiasm for hockey in Phoenix.

      Not that I disagree with Hickey, but I’ve read Boone’s post after the game and it was not different then what a lot of fans have said in the past few days.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I have had ‘excessive’ enthusiasm for My Habs for 67 years …but I do things within reason

        …there are the rabid Fans with a modicum of intelligence, that appreciate a good time and escape

        …then there are the yahoo Fans,unfortunately, that make Us all look ridiculous

        • Thomas Le Fan says:

          I guess we’ll have to accept your self assessment. The rest of us are bozos and proud of it! 😉

          Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • habcertain says:

      That is just a point/counterpoint to Boone’s ALN, old media trick.

      That being said, MT over reacted with a half period sit, just to make sure the world saw it. A couple of shifts, in a winnable scenario, would have sufficed. It is just plain dumb, but no one has ever accused MT of being a deep thinker.

      Let’s see how the contract negotiations fall out, and who is left standing. As usual PK takes the high road, says the right things, MB should take notice and learn a thing or two from his player.

  13. galchenyuk27 says:

    Enough of the pk talks, how about news out of Edmonton that Eberle, and Yakapov are on the trade block. Now Eberle isn’t the big body we are looking for but he can put the puck in the net at the right time. I personally think Diaz a solid D prospect and a second would be easily accountable for him. What are your thoughts.

  14. DipsyDoodler says:

    Your Friday Fantasy.

    Geoff Molson hires Steve Yzerman as GM.

    Steve Y convinces Mike Babcock to leave Detroit.

  15. DipsyDoodler says:

    Can anyone name three soccer coaches hired by big clubs or national teams who didn’t speak the local lingo?

    Winner gets a trophy from Pat Hickey with the words Mildly Uninformed engraved on it.

  16. fun police says:

    murray and bouillion should never ever, never never never play together. in fact, they should never be in the lineup at the same time. #freepatyren

    • aroma says:

      Especially since Bouillion is forced to play on the wrong side. Pateryn would give the Habs a third right handed shot on defence. Diaz would likely sit in the event that Pateryn is called up and finally plays.

  17. habs001 says:

    Okay the posters who think this team should be performing better in scoring goals if they had the coach they wanted…please tell me who on the roster would have more goals than now and by how much more….

  18. Denjen says:

    Hey everyone! Hope all is well. The above article supports my views on the media especially the media in MTL! They look to put doubts in the players and fans minds- raise questions- make big deals about nothing every day hockey activity. PK handled himself very well last game through to practise today , he has been a true pro IMO!

  19. 44har48 says:

    Hi all, been very busy and not able to contribute on here lately but I do check in. Happy New Year and I hope everyone’s holiday was enjoyable.

    I do have to say RE: PK getting benched…I’m glad he is more mature and able to deal with adversity better than some of us on here…I mean really??? Can we all take one big step back from the ledge please?

    A young player made a boneheaded selfish play and got benched – and even said he learned from it and understood! Many Habs have been benched this year for poor play or boneheaded decisions, White, Galchenyuk to quickly name just two. It happens.

    Let’s move on. Let the coach coach and PK play. I don’t blame them a bit for getting curt and frustrated that this is an issue to the media (and us).

  20. adadi says:

    Here’s hoping that the fans embarrass MT tomorrow by chanting PK for 15 minutes at the start of the game.

  21. mount royal says:

    Pretty good explanation by MT. Give him credit ; he says it as it is and I suspect that he doesn`t play favourites. As fans, we can and do play favourites, but that is not MT`s job. It`s like Yzerman and Saint-Louis; unpleasant; highly debatable, but the buck stops there.


    • bwoar says:

      I wonder what Chris Nilan thinks? No wait, I don’t.

      I can’t wait for the 24CH episode where PK catches Therrien freebasing and locks him in a closet so that Gerard Gallant can coach the team that night. Then the terrorists win and everyone turns on PK. HIO gets haxxored and the words “Therrien is a Racist” and “NO EXCUSES” are displayed repeatedly as “Dopesmoker” by Sleep plays throughout the episode (all 63 minutes of it.) The Gallys kill a bottle of Dalwhinnie and aren’t drunk, but some puck bunnies show up with Seagram’s Vodkaberry Coolers and the next thing you know the 2 boys are puking magenta chunks in the back of a Crown Vic. They still score a goal and an assist apiece later that night. Ah to be young again.

      That’s the show I’d tune in for, anyhow.


    • JF says:

      Agree with you. I thought the whole press conference (on RDS.com) was excellent. To me, Therrien’s words carried absolute conviction, and I don’t see how anyone, after listening to them and paying attention to his tone, can go on arguing that he has it in for P.K. or doesn’t like him or any of that nonsense. I especially liked what he said to P.K. after the announcement that he had made the Olympic team: roughly, by making the most of the opportunity to play with great athletes and great leaders, you will yourself grow as a leader and as a hockey player.

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        I don’t believe he has it “in” for P.K., I just think he has no idea how to use him and many other players effectively and that results in his stupid decisions re: lines, defensive pairings and benchings. The ONLY reason to bench a player for more than a shift or two is LACK of EFFORT. I don’t think anyone can accuse PK of that.

        Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

        • JF says:

          I think blatant indiscipline is just as good a reason. P.K. took a bad penalty just when we had scored short-handed to gain a bit of momentum. Instead of being able to build on that momentum to start the third, we had to spend the first two minutes killing the penalty.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            Blatant indiscipline? That’s a hoot. Pushing and shoving in a scrum and the referees pick one player to penalize and that’s blatant indiscipline? That’s blatant nonsense.

            Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

          • JF says:

            @ Thomas Le Fan – P.K. punched Couturier or whoever it was in the face. That’s likely to draw a reaction from the refs.

  22. Mattyleg says:

    Retweet by Arpon Basu:
    BrianWilde ‏@BWildeCTV

    To be brutally frank, Subban and Therrien seem a heck of a lot more annoyed with us questioning than they do with each other. #habs

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • The Jackal says:

      Right? This whole spiel is super annoying.
      Like I said, if people keep it up, it can become a real issue in the form of a distraction that hurts the team.

      As of now, there is no issue, nothing, no truth to the crap that so many seem to wish to be true. Time to bury this proverbial hatchet and move on. Maybe worry about the D which is the real problem here.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • CJ says:

      Maybe that’s the hint to drop the subject. Arpon seems like a smart enough person to be able to heed his own message.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Exactly! Not to toot my own horn, but that;s more or less what I wrote about 30 minutes ago on here.

      This isn’t Monday Mornig Quarterbacking lol

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  23. PeterD says:

    The NHL generally has a coaching disease…teams keep recycling the same guys that didn’t cut it onone team (or many teams) !and suddenly think he will lead the next team to tbe promised land.
    Its like driving with a warn out tire…you get a flat and replace ut with another retread instaed of going out and getting something new.
    I love what Pittsburg did a few years back and brought in Bylsma…now that guy can coach. Sure he has a lit of talent, but consider how well his teamd have done over ybe past few years when Crosby and Malkin missed significant time even both out at the same time.
    I think sometimes you need to think out of the box.
    As Einstein once said…”you can’t solve a problem using the same thinking that created the problem”.

  24. bwoar says:

    God Bless Chris Nilan. He’s a gem.


    • frontenac1 says:

      Knuckles is the Real Deal amigo.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Love Nilan…met him in Ottawa at the premiere of his movie. Great guy.
        I’d love for him to talk over from Cherry when he retires.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Love Nilan…met him in Ottawa at the premiere of his movie. Great guy.
        I’d love for him to take over from Cherry when he retires.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  25. CH Marshall says:

    Read the posts re the Nordiques and Quebec City. That would be the best thing to ever happen to the Habs. Imagine if the new Nords pounded the snot out of the Habs, maybe management would for once be compelled to actually get some bigger and tougher players, and hire coaches regardless of language.

    • Thurston says:

      I’m not convinced that will happen. If memory serves (and, admittedly, it’s not always the sharpest), the Canadiens drafted a series of stiffs from Quebec in the early 1980s to appeal to the Quebec-fanbase.

    • careysubban3176 says:

      And seeing a few empty seats wouldn’t be a bad thing either to help bring in much needed talent

      Stop blaming the goaltender! He can only do so much.

  26. B says:

    Anyone remember Ilya Kovalchuk? He currently sits 8th in KHL scoring behind guys like Brandon Bochenski, Nigel Dawes and former AHLer (and 2004 9th round draft choice) Kyle Wilson.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  27. Habsrule1 says:

    Will we ever see a unulingual English-speaking coach in Montreal? I don’t know. I’d like to think we would hire Babcock if he was available and we needed a coach. We could at least fall back on the fact that he went to McGill.

    Who were the best coaches available when Therrien was last hired?

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • careysubban3176 says:

      It’s really sad the Habs have to limit there coaching and management talent where the top priority is that not if you have won Stanley cups but if you speak French or not

      Stop blaming the goaltender! He can only do so much.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        I agree, but much like players, if 2 are available, and the consensus is that they are of equal talent, and 1 speaks french and 1 doesn’t, I’d take the French-speaking one. Same goes for coaches.

        Now if the one that does not speak French is thought to be even a tiny bit better, take him.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • careysubban3176 says:

          That’s the thing. I couldn’t care less if the Habs had not one French speaking person on the team or just French-canadien in general. I want to see Stanley Cups and that’s it. People need to wake up, this isn’t the 70’s no more.

          Stop blaming the goaltender! He can only do so much.

        • boonie says:

          Very few things in the real world are exactly even.

    • B says:

      Babcock probably speaks some French, but he has an even worse record than Therrien this season!

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • Sportfan says:

      I think if Quebec get s a team then the focus on having a french coach will fall on Quebec not us then maybe we could do what we want 😛

      Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • boonie says:

      A question for those of you who follow European football. Would a top team from a non-English speaking league (team like Real Madrid) insist on a coach who speaks the native language?

  28. Sportfan says:

    PK when he retires should write a book called “In the Spotlight, The Subban Story” or something like that.

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

  29. JUST ME says:

    I have no doubt at all that there isn`t even a shadow of controversy between P.K. and Therrien .P.k. is a well educated human being and shows it with all the respect he gives towards his dad so i am sure that he respect his coach and will not question the authority figure. His comments are very very mature and he gets the team concept.

    Does not make the benching episode more called for in my book but the message was sent clearly to everyone….except on HIO.

  30. careysubban3176 says:

    Anyone remember the game last year around the half way point when the Habs played Carolina at home? They won 5-1 and I remember during that game saying to myself if they play like that no one could stop them. They were constantly in the offensive zone and Price faced less than 20 shots. From there on I always compared games the Habs play from that game because that was the best performance I have ever seen the Habs play bar none. So far this year they have only played like that TWICE. And with no real major roster changes I have to ask myself what has changed this year from last. The only answer I can come up with is passion. They seemed to play with an edge last year due to finishing last the year before and I think they have kinda lost that edge and forgot that no too long ago that they were the laughing stock of the eastern conference. I really don’t think it’s an X’s and O’s type thing the Habs are struggling with but the lack of passion they are playing with

    Stop blaming the goaltender! He can only do so much.

    • Phil C says:

      You may be right about the lack of passion, but it is also definitely a system change. Last year they had a constant two-man forecheck, this year they are content to trap in the neutral zone. Last year, when they caused a turnover, the transition game was deadly because they were already skating at top speed. With a passive trap, they are more flat-footed and lose more puck races.

      I also think more teams copied Montreal from last year, so you see more teams applying pressure. That’s the problem with your opponent, they don’t always do what you want them to do and a good plan rarely survives contact with the enemy.

      Why did they change? I don’t know, maybe someone should ask. Maybe they thought such an aggressive style would not survive 82 plus games from an injury stand point.

  31. ClutchNGrab says:

    I was browsing and saw the following headline on 98.5

    “«Pas sûr que PK serait aux JO, si j’étais resté les bras croisés» – Therrien”


    Is that what it is, a power trip? You add that to MB’s comment from two days ago and you have the impression that it’s Michel Therrien that should have been the coach of Team Canada.
    What’s the point of that comment?

    Does Ken Hitchcock need to say that about Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester?

    • Bripro says:

      Watch the press conference first, and you’ll see that if that’s the only line you read, it was taken out of context.
      He was talking about PK’s first month, prior to his sitting in the rafters for one game. His game starting improving after that.
      MT said it’s a learning process, and there’s no question that PK started to play better after that.

      • ClutchNGrab says:

        I read the article.

        Pacioretty is another example. He has not started the season well. He probably had a ton of conversations with MT and his assistants on how he needs to drive the net, be more consistent, shoot more.

        Have you heard Therrien say that if Max had continued to play like he did when the season started that he would not be on Team USA? It’s a learning process for EVERY player. From Kunitz to Martin St Louis that has not been selected. It’s one thing to say the media and fans are over blowing a story, it’s another to feed it. That’s what MT does.

    • bwoar says:

      Did you read the article, for context, or just the headline? The story gives a better idea of what he’s saying.

      Essentially he says, “If he kept playing the way he did during the first month of the season, I’m not sure he would’ve been invited to the Olympics, take it from me. We sent him a message, and if I’d just stood there doing nothing, I wouldn’t be doing my job.”

      I think you might be looking for reasons to cut down the coach? I don’t see anything wrong with what he said.


      • ClutchNGrab says:

        Again, that’s true for Rick Nash, for Roberto Luongo, for Jeff Carter. for Patrice Bergeron.

        To be honest, I don’t know how PK’s game would have improved with another coach.

  32. twilighthours says:

    I’m impressed that Timo didn’t rip Patches for being such a slacker – two days off in a row.

  33. Bripro says:

    For those who haven’t seen it, here’s the post-practice press conference by MT.
    Much had to do about PK, and the long of the short, as far as MT is concerned is that he’s the coach, he has a great relationship with the kid who still has another level to reach, and there’s a team concept to follow for every player without exception.
    It’s a good watch, and he’s in a pretty good mood answering some pretty candid questions.


  34. shiram says:

    I know some wondered about the jersey #’s Team Canada would wear, here you go.


    Both Habs keep their #’s, Price is 31, and Subban 76.

    • Bripro says:

      Your link is to the team roster.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The two smallest players on the team are 5’11” and one of them is the best player in the world. Damn I wish the Habs roster looked like that!

      • shiram says:

        It’s about a 160 millions cap hit team, of course it’s gonna look good!

        Aside from that, well I guess it takes time to change a team, and Bergevin is going for the slow long run, so changes are few and far in between.

        • Bripro says:

          As Hobie pointed out last night, no one is trading away power forwards. I don’t think trying to rush things is an option, even if MB wanted to.

          He’s implemented a good draft system, hired a competent crew who’ll be looking for the best draft selections, and if they happen upon another smart pick up like Prust, or better, then all the better.

          But patience seems to be the word of the hour.

          • shiram says:

            6’02” 216pound Bobby Bryan was traded this summer, he might not fit the traditional power forward mold, but he’s a big sized goal scorer.

            Those deals are rare though, but they can and do happen.

            I read that Chris Stewart out of St-Louis could be available for the right price, if so you have to hope Bergevin is testing the waters on that.
            Right wing too, so that would great, and a very manageable cap hit.

  35. PeterD says:

    Ah, “Building through the draft”…every GM’s politically correct comment.
    Problem is with having to staff 20 positions for a game and the Draft coming once per year, and considering the better the team plays the worse the draft position is, and that even if you are able to draft an excetiontalent it takes about 3 years or more sometimes for them to contribute consistently at the NHL level….wow, sure going to take a very long time to build through the draft….and each year your young studs and veteran leaders get one year older and closer to reduced effectiveness.
    My point is that any GM worth his salt will need to add through the draft AND be very shrewd at adding key players through free agency (not happening under MB yet) AND being very adept at adding and subtracting through trades (again not happening with MB yet).

    So for this teamoto advance steadily towards cup contender status MB will need to add and subtract to the current roster through trades…do it now….and add a free agent asset in his prime (not in serious decline) and keep picking best talent available in each draft.

    So any mantra that we Habs will build a championship team through the draft is naive or worse intentionaly misleading the fan base.

    Start moving assets and declining players now MB so this team will in fact begin to get progressively better each year.

    • veryhabby says:

      Peter…he will have to make trades to add to this team, but I still think he will be patient for about 3 more years. so sit back and enjoy the draft and the minor UFA moves till then.

      Price, Pk, Pac, Eller, Gal, Gallenyuk

      add to it prob.. tinordi, Beaulieu

      this is our core. Once a few of the recent draftees make the NHL, it will be about 3 yrs. Our core will all be 25-30. then you look at what holes you have. And then you make the bold trades (thanks to your great prospect pool) and go hard after the top UFAs to make this team a contender for years to come.

      But honestly, first you have to patiently “build thru the draft”. This will be his 3rd draft, is say in 3 yrs you’ll see us as a top tier team for years to come if he THEN makes the right moves.

      • PeterD says:

        Veryhabby …I agree with you to a point.
        Unfortunately if we take a dipassionate look at the fatm tesm prospect one wonders why no Hamilton player was selected to the AHL all star classic game. ..not a good report on future Habs in the stable.
        I’m not dumping on the habs prospects here…just saying I don’t think we have as many NHL star players in waiting as some think we do.
        Just saying if MB want to build the team…he still needs to draft well but also get rid of declining assets and only add quality assets that are still rising in their career…and these players are out there to be had for a price…consider recent trades that added to the team…Boddy Ryan to Ottawa, Tyler Seguin to Dallas… those were very good players moved in trade…thats the type of move I want to see MB to do to help build the team as well as draft…and for all things holy stop signing players like Murray, Boullion, et al.

  36. Habfan17 says:

    Not dissing you, just wondering. I kept trying to post a trade suggestion using Eric, son of John and was told the word Jo_ _son was auto blocked.


  37. TheSleeveen says:

    While most people would be happy with MB, it is MT that is the problem. Benching your best player when there are points on the line is not a great strategy when every point you can get is needed. If the Canadiens were guaranteed a spot then maybe, but every point counts, and the habs are more than capable of coming from behind to at least get a point. However MT’s ego got in the way.

    MT is MT of coaching skills, let him go as soon as a replacement can be found.

  38. Biggest_Greek_HABSfun says:

    Imma say this one more time ! Trade bourque back to Calgary for Cammy . Trade Diaz for any pick . Gio time to go after that season ! I wanna see this team dropping gloves and win games

    • Habsrule1 says:

      No thanks to Cammy, unless Briere goes the other way…and even then, we need to get BIGGER.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • B says:

      Only 3 teams have dropped the gloves more than Montreal’s 26 times this season. Philly and Toronto at 30 (both behind Montreal) and Boston at 29 (3 points ahead of Montreal). For what it’s worth, I don’t see those power house teams atop the Western conference near the top in “dropping the gloves”.

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • GrimJim says:

      So you “wanna see this team dropping gloves and win games” and you want to trade the guy who is 6’2″/205lbs with 7 career fights traded for the guy who is 5’9”/185lbs with 2 career fights?

  39. FANHABULOUS says:

    I realize this place if filled with super passionate fans, and that we come in here before and after every game and micro-dissect every little play, analyze Subban’s playing time and complain about every little thing that MT or MB appear to do wrong. I get it. It’s part of why I love this community.

    But take a breath for a second… stand back, and look at the big overall picture.

    Since the new management/coaches have been in place (1.5 years so far), the team went from barely squeaking into the playoffs (or finishing last in our conference) to winning our division last year, and comfortably sitting in a playoff spot and near the top of our division/conference. At the same time, MB has NOT mortgaged any of our future… this is HUGE… and this point gets lost for people who have the “upgrade the team NOW” mentality. The signings he made tried to address our obvious needs, and even though Briere is not working out, it was for short term and a reasonable cap hit. We lose nothing but some cash in the process.

    So far, I think MB has done EXACTLY what was expected, and asked for, by people when the GM search was going on. I like his vision, and he almost always mentions getting bigger, stronger and faster as an overall goal for this club, which is exactly what we’re all clamoring for. Can we please give the guy a few years to make his mark, and put his stamp on this team, slowly and through clever drafting? Only then can we decide if he’s fulfilled his promises as a GM.

    I, for one, am happy with MB so far. He’s done exactly what he promised, and we need to be patient to see his vision unfold. Now, if he’d only hurry up and get Subby signed up, I can sleep easier a night!

    “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      You are confusing most of the posters here with facts.

      Back off.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • FANHABULOUS says:

        Ha… I’m waiting for Timo’s usual “is MT or MB fired yet?”

        “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

    • CJ says:

      Great post. Perfectly sums up my thoughts and feelings.

    • veryhabby says:

      building thru the draft is what he said he would do. And it’s easy to do that, cause it means no wow trades, or no going after the top UFA.

      but in a few years, once the core is drafted and playing in the NHL, he will then be tested. then we will see how good he is in making a trade for the missing pieces, or going after the top UFA to put us over the top as a contender.

      For now, he’s doing fine with short term fill ins as the core develops

    • Habfan10912 says:

      You, like me, must still be scratching your head as to how Briere’s signing fit into his vision of a bigger, stronger team. 

  40. Habsrule1 says:

    So, does this finally put everyone at ease?

    Somehow, I doubt it. everyone is able to move on from this….except the fans.

    My bet is PK is more tired of the fans and certain reporters than he is of Michel Therrien.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  41. The Jackal says:

    Ah great, tin foil hat PK-gate cultists managed to get reporters to ask PK and MT stupid and pointless questions about NOTHING.
    These baseless speculations can turn into distractions that can actually hurt the team, a lot more than fans’ imagined schisms in the room.
    Well, at least we got an answer. There is NOTHING going on, there is no schism, no issues between PK and MT. Let it go and let the team and fans focus on the real issues – the roster, the lack of depth, etc.

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Cal says:

      Getting the question answered quiets all the whining. As usual, PK states the case honourably and with his usual media savvy.

      Like it or not, Twitter and other crap like it is what’s driving this never-ending 24/7 “news” cycle. That the Habs have fans world-wide only keeps the “story” going.
      Besides, we have to kvetch. That’s what HIO is for.

  42. 24 Cups says:

    The real question about Montreal’s defense doesn’t really centre around Subban today, but rather what is going on with Diaz. If he sits tomorrow, that would be his 3rd game in a row. What am I missing?

  43. CJ says:

    Shouldn’t the title read, “Montreal media, in an effort to try and extend a story another 24 hours, throws PK into the spotlight by shoving a microphone and recorder in his face in hopes of getting some dirt…..”

    Really, let’s move on. Right, wrong or indifferent, it’s in the past. If our entire team’s focus is not 100% on Chicago, you might as well forget about it. They are way to good to be taken lightly. Come prepared to play tomorrow and we can win. If not…..look out.

  44. DipsyDoodler says:

    The whole ‘Francophone Base’ argument some of you keep repeating implies the Franco fans and media are childish and stupid. They only care about ethnicity and stamp their little feet whenever a foreigner is pushed down their throats etc …

    Then again, this site reacted to this week’s non-events with the emotional poise of a toddler who’s just dropped his sippy cup.

    Stop projecting.

    • Cal says:

      Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! MY sippy cup!! It fell down and went boom! Waaaaaa!
      That about sum it up?

    • RAM_TOUGH says:

      + 1000000


    • VancouverHab says:

      Dear Dipsy:

      You are 100% correct, as you have been saying all along and I have just had proven to me.

      RDS has a awesome clip of Phillipe Cantin utterly incredulous at Therrien’s stupidity over Subban–I mean, it is an epic sport journalist clip of a kind man driven to stupefaction by Therrien’s smallness.

      And more francophone RDSers (but I repeat myself) on other clips outdo themselves and trip over each other expressing Therrien’s coaching nullity.

      Meanwhile, here in Anglo journalism we have the spectacle of Pat Hickey bootlicking Therrien and belittling fans (you and I that is) in one abjectly peurile article.

      So, I hereby repent of and recant every comment that I have previously made suggesting that a francophone old boys club was keeping Therrien afloat.

      They are, as the idiom goes, men of honour.

  45. shiram says:

    Jets are playing Byfuglien to forward, hoping to find ways to win.
    He’ll play top line with Lyttle and Ladd.
    Do you think he can have as much success as Brent Burns did in San Jose?

  46. montreal ace says:

    I see the loonie is taking a nose dive, so Canadian contracts will become more expensive. Just in case someone around here is about to sign a 7 million dollar contract, in loonies it would be 7.6 million, that extra 600 grand can get you a nice place. I guess in someways you live rent free if your NHL player in Canada.

  47. Ian Cobb says:

    Bergevin said he was going to grow this team through the draft over the next few years. He had to fill a lot of holes with free agent because the cupboard was bare in Hamilton. I think he is going to maintain doing the exact same thing. The older and non preforming players will be dropped one at a time, as we have developed kids to take a spot .
    It is hard to be patient but we must, and we will get there.

    • Habilis says:

      That’s all well and good, but in the meantime we’re wasting what may be a career year by one of the top 5 goalies in the world.

      This team has a ton of young talent. They need to learn how to win together. That can be accomplished quicker than a lot of people think, but it takes a coach who isn’t afraid to lean on his youngsters from time to time. That’s not Therrien.

      Pittsburgh realized it pretty quickly. What’s taking MB so long?

      • CJ says:

        Price is only going to get better. Traditionally goalies hit their peak around 30 years of age. I still think we have only seen glimpses of what he can be.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Ya, all Therrien did in Pittsburgh was get a young team to the Final then do much of the leg work to get them back there before Bylsma took over and got the credit.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  48. Propwash says:

    Therrien’s Temper ‏@AngryMichel 2m
    I went into da batroom today after practice and Subban was standing at da urinal. I made him go sit in da stall. #Teamconcep #boss


  49. DickandDanny says:

    Make a trade already. There are so many willing partners out there right now, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Phoenix, Toronto, Buffalo, NYR, etc. MB, pull a Sam Pollock and fleece someone. C’mon man do something. The team is going in the same direction it went last year after 40 games. We will be lucky to hold on and make a play-off spot if this recent trend continues. We need at least 20 more wins to make the play-offs and that means winning slightly more than every second game we play. With this bunch I can’t see that happening. Other teams are coming on and were beginning to dwindle. We need size, and scoring up front and some more toughness on the back end. I don’t understand the lack of commitment to making this team better now. Everything always seems to revolve around draft picks. Take the flyers for example. Does Philly care about draft picks? Hell no. They make trades and aren’t afraid to move anyone, including their star players. The way they are built I expect they will finish in the top four in the conference and will again be a contender come play-off time. We use to match up against them in the 70’s and 80’s so why can’t we build a similar type team now. Why so many small bodies? And we continue to draft these same type players. Look at last years draft. Apart from McCaron we once again went with smaller skilled forwards. Very frustrating to see how this team is operated. I guess my glory years of watching the Habs, thanks to Sam Pollock and Scotty Bowman will never be duplicated again in my life time. It’s too bad for you younger fans that you can’t experience what the old guys like me had back in those days. And if you think it can’t be done just look at what Bowman did in Pittsburgh, and now in Chicago with his son.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

    • Agree with you Dick and Danny 100%! I say it whenever I get so frustrated by these smurfs and their lack of effort, but always get labelled a troll because I was lucky to be alive during the late 60’s, 70’s and early 80’s. Frankly since then, it’s been an expectation that just because we are one of the original six with a great history, we should get the best players. Is it the French first? No, since we’ve let too many Quebecers go over the years. Bad management? Yup. Canadian dollar and tax issues? Yup, until last few years. The market? Yup. Who wants to be under a microscope when you can get the same or more pay and go unrecognized at the grocery store. Sorry Price, that’s how it is in Montreal. SO when will we see another cup? I’m afraid not for at least the next 5 or more years since there are some big, scoring teams like St. Louis, Anaheim, Boston, Chicago and others standing in our way.

      I’m speechless! 20 years and counting…

  50. stevieray says:

    Pacioritty and his wifey don’t live in MOntreal ???

  51. Chrisadiens says:

    Anyone know where Guy Boucher is now? Is he employed anywhere? I googled him and couldn’t find anything. For a guy that a lot of people want as the next coach for Montreal, was there even any interest in him from clubs who needed a new coach during the off season? Seems weird to me that he only got one shot, and can’t land a job now. Either he burned some bridges or is being picky.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Isn’t he living in his skull-shaped lair somewhere in the Pacific Ocean, plotting the conquest of the world and ridding himself of that nuisance, James Bond…?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Luke says:

        “GuyBoucher! He’ll sting you with his dreams of power and wealth. Beware of GuyBoucher! His twisted twin obsessions are his plot to rule the world, and his employees’ health. He’ll welcome you into his lair, like the nobleman welcomes his guest. With free dental care and a stock plan that helps you invest! But beware of his generous pensions, plus three weeks paid vacation each year. And on Fridays the lunchroom serves hot dogs and burgers and beer! He loves German beer!”

    • habsguru says:

      remember the tampa philly game where the d stood still behind the net for a half of period waiting for the opposition to blink? no thanks

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Count me as one who doesn’t want him as coach of this team.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  52. Tyhudg says:

    MT did the right thing, seems like absolutely everyone realizes that except for the people who dwell inside Habs blogs.

    • Mustang says:

      P.K. is probably the best player on the team. He has great talent, he is very enthusiastic, and he comes to play every night. He was recognized as the best defencmen in the NHL last year. But he is still young and lets his emotions get the best of him at times. What he did at the end of the 2nd period on Wednesday night was wrong. He knows it and I’m sure that he would like to take it back. The coach made a decision and P.K. seems to understand why it was done. End of story. As for the fans that live and die with everything the Habs do, take a break and look forward to the next game.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      He couldn’t have just spoken to him about it? If what MT supporters are saying is true, PK is far from stupid. He knows it was not a good penalty (although there’s no way of knowing how these idiotic refs will call such things on any given night or any given play). What Therrien did hurt the team, not PK. That is unforgivable.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  53. Habilis says:

    I’m losing faith in MB by the day now.

    I was a fan when he was hired, but now I’m coming to the conclusion that he has no clue what he’s doing. Looking back on his “moves” just makes me sad. Not one good signing. The one decent trade he did make, he erased by signing Briere.

    Until he does something to help this team, I’m getting off the MB train.

    Fire everyone.

    • Mattyleg says:

      He picked up Stephane Waite, which improved our goaltending immesurably.

      GM is a long-term position, which will have good moments and bad moments, and as a rookie GM, he needs to make mistakes and learn lessons. We knew that when he started, so I don’t think that being either 100% enthusiastic about him from the get-go, or being down on him after such a short tenure, is a good approach.

      Just wait and see. From what he’s said, I like what he wants to build in Montreal. Actually being able to build that is another question altogether. Until the drafts he selected start coming through the system and showing up at the Bell Centre, we can’t really judge him too harshly, I don’t think.

      But that’s just me.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      His best moves are the ones he didn’t make. Like not trading away picks at the deadline last year when we were 2nd in the East. Like not signing David Clarkson, which everyone on here desperately wanted. Like not rushing his young defencemen.

      Remember Vinnie Damphousse, a very sane guy, saying we should trade picks for playoff help.

      We might have traded the picks that became Fucale and De La Rose for Douglas Murray.

      • CJ says:

        Very strong post. I agree. I want to be that Detroit type franchise circa 1995-2000. To get there we need to be patient. Trading picks at the deadline for a rental like moulson will only be repeating the same mistakes the previous regime made.

    • naweed235 says:

      Some would argue that Prust was one of the better UFA signings of that off-season, even though he hasn’t been playing very well lately. I do agree that the signing of Briere was a horrible choice but in his defense, MB has said from day 1 that he wants to rebuild this team through the draft, and thus far, he has picked very well!

      • Habilis says:

        Good points guys.

        I am obviously being a tad harsh with my assessment, and I admit as much. I agree that the one good thing MB has done in his time here is hang on to his futures (picks, prospects). That’s a good thing. But is it enough?

        His signings, other than Prust as was pointed out above, have been mediocre at best. So he didn’t want to spend big money or term. I get that, and obviously I have no interest in seeing an overpaid Clarkson-like player here. So fine, call that a wash.

        But the thing that worries me the most is his decision making. He stuck to his guns last year with P.K., and look where that got him. We could have P.K. signed for 5 or 6 more years at 5 or 6 mil right now. Instead we have the best RFA in the league who may or may not want to stick around. If he doesn’t…

        And of course the biggest lapse in judgement, IMO, is letting MT coach this team a minute longer. If he doesn’t see that MT is not the answer, then I just have no hope for him.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      The older and non preforming players will be dropped one at a time, as we have developed kids to take a spot .
      It is hard to be patient but we must, and we will get there.

      • CJ says:

        Sound post Ian. I agree. We need to remain patient and stay the course. As unpopular as it would be, moving Gionta, Markov and any other pending UFA will make this team better in the long run. As much as I love this team, I recognize that this isn’t our year. Enjoy the run and look forward to the future.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      The GM is doing a pretty good job. It takes time for things to develop. The coach, however, is impeding development at all positions except goaltending.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  54. Mattyleg says:

    I’m very curious to see how the Habs perform tomorrow night.

    In their last game against significant opposition, we lost 6-0 (LA).

    Which team is going to turn up?

    The one that brims with confidence, makes effective and fast transitions, that uses its speed to burn slower d-men and cut towards the net…

    Or the one that gets fixated on trying to make the same tired plays work over and over again, regardless of the similarity of the outcome (loss of possession, or worse) and gives up on puck battles?

    If Red Fisher were still writing, I’m sure he’d say “Would The Real Montreal Canadiens Please Stand Up?”

    Who are we? The former or the latter?
    Is it possible to be both for the rest of the season, or will one eclipse the other?

    I know many people think that it’s all Therrien’s fault, and that the team is on an uncontrollable downward spiral, but is it really that simple, or that bad?

    Will we see Eller and Gallagher and Gionta step up and start providing secondary scoring? Will our defence corps finally gel (not that they’re terrible) and shut the barn door?

    I’m optimistic, that’s just my nature (which possibly bothers some people), but I believe that the players have too much pride to let such a good start to the season fizzle.

    I think we’ll have a 500 record from here on in, which will be enough to get us to the dance, at which point anything can happen.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      “The one that brims with confidence, makes effective and fast transitions, that uses its speed to burn slower d-men and cut towards the net…

      Or the one that gets fixated on trying to make the same tired plays work over and over again, regardless of the similarity of the outcome (loss of possession, or worse) and gives up on puck battles?”


      Only problem is the first one will be wearing Chicago jerseys.

  55. CHicoHab says:

    MT makes the situation worse for his team by benching PK. The focus during the game becomes just that. Dumb move from a dumb coach. Not pulling your goalie also sends wrong message. Need to tie the game is first priority. Winning it becomes second priority at that stage in the game. Since when did shots on goal become barometer for a win or tie or loss. I’m wondering when PK doesn’t screw up and actually helps the team does he get rewarded??? Doubt it.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Doesn’t not pulling the goalie send the message that “If you’re not interested in winning, neither am I” ?

      Do you really think we could have won that game if Therrien had pulled the goalie, considering the way we’d been playing?

      (actual question, not rhetorical)

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • CJ says:

        No. Not a chance.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        The difference between PK’s penalty, DD’s blown coverage, other players’ poor play , and Therrien’s decision not to pull the keeper is that his was calculated. He rationally and deliberately sabotaged the team.

        He’s done. He just doesn’t know it yet. Just like Chris Christie.

      • Max says:

        I remember reading one time that teams have a better chance at scoring by not pulling the goalie than pulling the goalie for the extra skater which is only successful in less than5% of chances or some ridiculously low percentage.

  56. B says:

    Only one team in the East (Tampa with 11) has more wins than Montreal (9) vs the West. Habs are 1 of 6 teams from the East with a winning record vs the West.

    Montreal has played more games vs the West than the other teams from the East. After 45 games each, Montreal has played 18 games vs the West while the East conf. leading Pittsburgh has played 11 vs the West (Atlantic div. leading Boston has played 12 vs the West).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  57. Psycho29 says:

    As Burly mentioned, the last defenseman to lead the Habs in scoring was Sprague Cleghorn, in 1921-22.
    In 24 games he had 17g-9a for 26 pts.
    He also led the league with 80 PIM. The 2nd place guy had 40.

    • habsguru says:

      wonder who helped him become a “better person”

    • Mattyleg says:

      He was the last D-man to finish the season with most goals.
      There was some worry back in 2007 or so that Souray was going to be our top scorer, as he led the team in goals, but he finished second in points behind Koivu, and second in goals behind Ryder.

      His totals were 26g, 35a, 135 PIM.

      Oh, and he was -28.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  58. Psycho29 says:

    I was at lunch, and the TB/Was game from last night was on TV, and due to an ice defect in one of the goal creases, they had the teams change ends at the first whistle after the 10 minute mark of each period. Don’t hear that happening too often…

  59. montreal ace says:

    I am going to make my last comment on MT, and his giving PK time on the bench. I think if the Coach can’t bench a player when he feels he needs to, he should not be Coach. I found what he did to be very reasonable and not unduly harsh. I think what MT did had merit and was not unjust, but if the players and management feel otherwise, I would quit if I was MT. In sports I think the word respect is overused, but if your a Coach and you don’t have it, what’s the point of being around.

  60. B says:

    McCarron and the Knights vs Guelph are on Sporstnet tonight at 7:00 PM.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  61. JUST ME says:

    The fact that no player has been called up, doesn`t it have to do with the cap space and that it`s better to wait really at the last minute like the evening the day before the game ?

  62. Psycho29 says:

    Puck Daddy‏ @YahooPuckDaddy 43m
    Florida Panthers losing $20 million annually; promise competitive team if county funds them

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Was just going to link the same story, but from deadspin, there is some mighty creative accounting going on with that Panthers team.


      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Sounds like they aren’t actually losing any money. They’re just pretending to in order to extort cash from the municipality.

      • B says:

        I believe Florida sells a lot of seat licenses (and their arena is one of the most active for concerts and other events). This may help to explain why there often appears to be more empty seats for hockey games than tickets sold.

        –Go Habs Go!–

      • montreal ace says:

        Panther’s make money holding concerts and other events when not playing hockey, cooking the books and crying poverty in sports has become a scam. I am against any team getting taxpayer money, and the fact it happens disgusts me. When the news came out that Detroit was getting a new arena, I looked to see how old the Joe Louis was, as to me it seemed it opened up just a few years ago, I am getting old lol. I could not believe the deal the Wings had on the Joe Louis, they pay less then 30,000 dollars a month rent. How can a city like Detroit that went bankrupt, afford to subsidize hockey like that.

    • Cal says:

      Ladies and gents, your new Quebec Nordiques. They will love Huberdeau.

    • veryhabby says:

      Was in Flda the last 3 weeks. Couldn’t get a tix for the habs game. But went to see Detroit…basically a sold out, full of Det fans. Also went to see Nashville game, and I would say about 70-80 filled. It didn’t look empty.

      In the past they have always had cheap seat sell offs. One year I walked to the box office on game day and asked for 2-1 tixs (vrs Leafs) and they gave them to me. This year, the lady said, “we don’t do that anymore this year”.

      Point is they are selling tix, and they are selling them a lot more expensive then they have in the past. So would like to see how they are losing $$.

  63. veryhabby says:

    I’d like to see a call up. I mean we are struggling scoring 5on5. It would be nice to get a kid up here who would have some enthusiasm, wanting to play hard to impress.

    Then again, why bother. MT will play him on 4th line and he will get 6 min of play time if lucky. I guess unless another top 6 player gets injured, we won’t see a call up. May as well play Parros those 6 min on the 4th line and save the cap space.

    • Lagerhab says:

      You would think with White and Chucky out that they have to call someone up soon, they don’t have any spare forwards at the moment do they? That’s why I’m thinking something is in the works!

      • veryhabby says:

        Well MB said he isn’t looking for a trade to replace Galchenyuk, that he believes it has to come from the inside first. So it’s Bournival to perform so that MB doesn’t feel the need to do a call up.

        And Parros replaces White.

        No call up needed at this time. Save all the cap space you can incase you do go for a big trade at the deadline.

  64. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Chucky practised?

  65. HabinBurlington says:

    On the last thread I mentioned the stat about who was the last Habs Dman to lead team in points in reg. season.

    Answer (according to TSN) is Sprague Cleghorn

  66. Lagerhab says:

    I feel a trade coming! No proof just a feeling! Strange that there has been no call up from Hamilton and now Max not here for todays practice? It is a little strange.

    • veryhabby says:

      Days off are written in the new CBA. Trust me, I am sure MT would of rather given them a bag skate at times this season, instead of a day off. But each club has to provide a certain amount of days off per month. They have no choice.

      AS for Pac going to see his kid. classy move by habs. Maybe he would have taken a “therapy day off anyways”, so they told him to go see his kid. We often forget that they millionaires are also human. Your first kid, and you are missing out of his first days of his life. Sure you can Skype, but if you are a parent you know it’s a special time, and it’s a time he’s missing out on. Can understand how it’s effecting him. Hopefully his wife and child will get to MTL shortly.

      • Lagerhab says:

        Very True, and it is a classy move by Montreal. There was speculation on an earlier thread that Max may be unhappy but gestures like this show what kind of organization he is a part off and I’m sure he appreciates it.

  67. DMAN says:

    Crazy trade suggestion: Eberle and 2014 1st rd draft pick for Eller,Tinordi,2014 1st rd pick. What do you think?

  68. Habsrule1 says:

    Day off?!? Day off after that spectacle in Philadelphia?!?

    Where does this team get off giving players days off after that performance?!? And 2 days off to boot for Max!?!

    I’m starting to see what all of you people complaining about it yesterday are talking about!

    Congrats Max.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  69. DMAN says:

    Galchenyuk practiced with a broken hand??

  70. shiram says:

    Might wanna correct the lineup, Chucky is injured, and Bournival is playing on 2 lines.

  71. habsguru says:

    late again

  72. montreal ace says:

    I hope its a great game tomorrow, with a big win by the team.

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