Pacioretty escapes suspension over McDonagh hit

Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty will not receive any supplementary discipline for his hit on Rangers’ defenceman Ryan McDonagh in the second period of the Canadiens 3-0 win over the Rangers Saturday night at the Bell Centre.

Pacioretty, who was assessed a minor penalty for boarding McDonagh at the 7:20 mark, had a telephone hearing with NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan Sunday afternoon. Renaud Lavoie of RDS reported that general manager Marc Bergevin went to Pacioretty’s defence.

   McDonagh left the game and did not return. There were unconfirmed reports that he suffered a concussion.

NHL.com said the league’s Department of Player Safety would be examining boarding and/or charging infractions as the basis for potential supplemental discipline.

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

998 Comments

  1. Habshire says:

    On Hockey Central at Noon Kipper mentioned that MB was brilliant at Max’s hearing convincing Shanny not to do anything.

  2. Bripro says:

    I don’t understand why there should be ONE negative comment regarding our Habs.
    If they were this year as they were last, I’d agree and perhaps even participate.
    But c’mon!!!
    They’re in first, or second, or fourth.
    Quite the turn-around.
    I won’t point out who’s doing well, because they all are.
    You just have to read Hickey’s rendition in this morning’s Gazoo.
    Life is wonderful…. well, at least hockey life is.
    Try to enjoy, all! Stop the cynicism and whining and just jump on the bandwagon.
    It might not be this thrilling again for a while.

  3. punkster says:

    GUI traded by Sens? Or just washed out for the season?
    http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/hockey/2013/02/25/004-lnh-habssens-preview.shtml
    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • The Cat says:

      I still maintain Latendresse has a sweet scoring touch. A true sniper but teams always try to get him to be physical.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  4. MacHabFan says:

    The glass is more than 1/2 full. Yet many moan and complain.

    Our beloved Habs are doing very well.

    Enjoy it.

    Go Habs!

  5. PrimeTime says:

    Speaking of morons and village idiots, i’m not sure if everyone read the beginning comments on this thread but paranoia and cynicism is alive and well when paired with passion. At least the HNIC commentariat have a little more objectivity than the fanatics on this or any other blog. Many are no better than PK Stock.

  6. Phil C says:

    I am a fan of what Therrien has done so far, but every coach has a few blind spots. I think Therrien tends to focus defensive hockey, maybe because he was a defenseman as a player. A good example is the Plekanec line. They have been playing well defensively, paired against the toughest matchups, but I think Plekanec and Gionta have zero offensive chemistry. But that line will stay together as long as they are sound defensively. I think Gallagher would be a better fit with Plekanec and Gionta would be a better fit with Desharnais, but I doubt we will see it, so I don’t expect much from Gionta this year offensively. At least the Eller-Galchenyuk-Cole has some potential chemistry.

    It’s the same on defense as Therrien has split his 3 offensive defenseman on three different pairings. I would rather see Subban and Markov together to see if they could get the 5-on-5 scoring going for both players. It will be tough for Markov to produce playing with Emelin.

    That being said, Therrien has found a winning formula, so it’s hard to say he is wrong on his line combinations.

    • ed says:

      Phil,

      Gionta has had some excellent chances recently. He has been a little slow in his reaction time, and the chances have slipped by. Or, on other occasions he has shot right at the goalie, or deflected pucks wide of the net.

      Gionta is second to Plekanec on the team in shots on net, with 48, but his 6.3% scoring % has led to only 3 goals.

      • Phil C says:

        Gionta has had some chances recently for sure and I think, in general, he is playing well and helping them win.

        But offensively, I think Plekanec tends to hold on to the puck too much and always shoots first if he can. I don’t know if you saw the two-on-one last game where Gionta was wide open in front of the net and Plekanec chose to shoot from a poor angle. It has been like that all season where Gionta has been in the right place to receive a pass but it never comes. Gionta would benefit from a centre who distributes the puck more.

        • ed says:

          yes, I agree that Plekanec has been shooting often. leads the team at 55 shots, and 8 goals.

          this might be by design.

          I think plekanec might have been told to shoot more, and it seems to be paying off.

          But I understand your point.

          I think its still early in the season, and Gionta has not found his scoring touch yet.

          I expect to see Gionta score 3 or 4 goals during these tough 2 weeks.

          • Phil C says:

            I hope you are right about Gionta. Interesting observation about maybe Plekanec being told to shoot more. He does have a great shot and it’s hard to argue with the results.

    • The Dude says:

      Gionta with DD …GREAT A NEW SMURF LINE ! Does anyone here really watch N.H.L. hockey :?: I don’t f’n think so :???:

      • Phil C says:

        DD is playing with Gallagher now so it’s a neutral move for size. If anything, Gionta plays bigger than Gallagher.

        And if you watch NHL hockey, Gionta’s size has never stopped him from going to the dirty areas and winning battles. He is an exception to the rule due to his strength, speed and intelligence.

  7. The Cat says:

    Spine jarring hit by Chris Neil on Boychuk.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOnXZpPwkoU

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  8. Bripro says:

    Good afternoon all.
    If you’re fortunate enough to be on Ian’s email list, you received this morning a very touching CBC tribute to Hockey Night in Canada’s 60th.
    What great vintage!
    Thank you so much for that, Ian. That got me feeling melancholy.
    From Bobby Orr’s dive to Gretzky holding the cup for the first time.
    From Danny Gallivan’s “Lafleur skating gingerly across the blue line, sinking the goal that killed the Bruins playoff hopes, to Gainey’s interview after having won the Con Smythe.
    So many wonderful memories. So many years have gone by.
    And this year, our Habs look to add to those memories.
    And to top it all off, we play the Red Wings six times next year.
    Ain’t life grand?!
    I love hockey.

  9. Say Ash says:

    I think the Sens are fenisses, too.

  10. The Dude says:

    With most of the Sens finesses players injured ,I’m expecting “the Neil roughhouse show”

  11. habsnyc says:

    If the current realignment plan is accepted, Montreal will renew its division rival with Detroit. In the Original Six era, Detroit was Montreal’s arch rival. Tampa and Florida would also be added to the proposed eight team conference. This plan will make it marginally harder for the Northeast Division teams as not only does the East go from 15 to 16 teams, but they would have to play Detroit 5-6 times a year. If it gets harder next year, I wonder if Boston sells some of their future to try to return to the finals this year.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • That’s interesting —

      Here’s a link: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/capitals-watch/2013/feb/23/report-new-nhl-realignment-proposal-capitals/

      And the proposed divisions:

      I: Capitals, Penguins, Flyers, Hurricanes, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Blue Jackets

      II: Bruins, Sabres, Red Wings, Panthers, Canadiens, Senators, Lightning, Maple Leafs

      III: Blackhawks, Avalanche, Stars, Wild, Predators, Blues, Jets

      IIII: Ducks, Kings, Coyotes, Sharks, Canucks, Flames, Oilers

      Gotta say, seems like teams in 8-team divisions get a raw deal re: odds of making the playoffs. I wonder if this is a concrete sign that the NHL is expecting to put new teams in Quebec City and somewhere else? : )

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

      • Rugger says:

        I think it points to the NHL absolutely refusing to put a team in Quebec. Next two would be west coast.

      • habsnyc says:

        The playoff structure would have four conference winners reach the semi-finals. The playoffs would be intra conference for the first two rounds. The top seed would no longer play the eight seed. Rather, the they would play the four seed in their own conference.

        What seems unfair to me is that the revamped Northeast Conference would have at lest four teams that spend max salary. Whereas the Blackhawks would have no rivals with deep pockets. Based on this plan, I think the Panthers move to Ontario or Quebec within three years.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • Gerry H says:

          Excellent point. You would think that with the league’s recent experience of a chronically under-performing division (the Southeast), they’d avoid this scenario like the plague.

      • Habfan17 says:

        They were talking about this on the team 1200. It does not make sense to move Detroit over if the idea is t add new teams in Quebec and Toronto. So, maybe the idea is to relocate one or two teams then add two through expansion to balance each division with 8 teams.

        Habfan17

  12. jeffhabfan says:

    Thanks Ian wonderful video gave me chills. There is so much to love about the team this year keep it going boys.GO HABS GO.

  13. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos!
    Don”t worry about Neil tonight,Prust can handle him.Enjoy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inZ3nm305Ro

  14. pmaraw says:

    is there a game today? I just called in to work sick! because i’m actually sick, not cause theres a game today

  15. SmartDog says:

    QUESTION: Who’s the biggest moron on HNIC?

    My bet is Healy. I swear he’s been possessed by the spirit of Milbury. Last week he put up a chart of Ottawa’s “irreplaceable” players – one of them was GUI.

    (note: partial re-post from below.)
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    • Loonie says:

      Ummm……Don Cherry.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      This one isn’t even close: it’s Don Cherry. Cherry is not merely a gobshite like Stock, Healy and others, he is more: he is a disgrace to Canada and the CBC with his bigotry, his ignorance, and his lack or professionalism.

    • Cal says:

      Healy and Stock and Don Cherry are tied for most idiotic HNIC panelist ever. I saw it on a blog so it must be true.

      • RetroMikey says:

        Gosh Cal!

        The Bible says “The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool.” Proverbs 10:18

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Gerry H says:

      It’s hard to disagree with Tom about Don Cherry topping the list, unless you share my growing suspicion that PJ Stock sees himself as Grapes’ heir apparent.

    • Garbo says:

      Cherry hands down.

      With Milbury/Stock/Healy/McLean as close runner ups.

    • Timo says:

      Perhaps we need a definition of “moron” first. If going by sheer stupidity – I still say Stock. The guy is a borderline Neanderthal.

    • Mustang says:

      OK, let’s look at it the other way round, who is the smartest guy on HNIC? Is there one that can be consided smart?

      • SmartDog says:

        Eliot Freidman seems pretty good. I know not everyone does, but I like Kelly Hrudey. Kevin Weekes is okay – not brilliant but not a moron.
        Besides that… it’s dumbsville.

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        • soperman says:

          I would have agreed that Eliot Freidman was the “smartest” guy on HNIC (equivalent to being the fastest turtle) until a couple of weeks ago. It was the first night Montreal jumped into first place. One of the other idiots mentioned the standings and Freidman jumped in to defend the Broons by saying that, “Yes but Boston has two games in hand and is CLEARLY the best team in the conference.” It must have been the 90 seconds in the third period against Montreal when the scored two goals to defeat the Habs 2 – 1. And, oh yeah, everyone knows teams will have played more or less games throughout the season, down to the final day. You don’t get credit for games you haven’t won yet.

          That felt good.

    • habsnyc says:

      Cherry expresses cultural opinions offensive to many, but that does not make him a moron. It may make him a bigot. I do not know, because I do not watch him. He parlayed his hockey knowledge into a successsful multi decade career. He seems to know how to analyze the game. I do not think it helps to call anyone a moron.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • shandrew says:

      My 16 year old son asked me if I liked Don Cherry; I had to think about it, but much to my surprise I actually like the old coot despite his bluster and butt kissing towards the Leafs and Bruins. When he talks about the Habs of the 70’s there is a kind of respect I don’t see from Stock, Milbury and the rest.

      • SmartDog says:

        I agree with that. Cherry is also right – and typically outspoken – on a lot of issues like equipment, concussions, no-touch icing. He’s also openly critical of the Leafs and their many stupid decisions.

        It’s too bad he feels that HNIC is his own soapbox though to trash players and wave the flag for his favorite teams. But that’s HNIC really – they shouldn’t let him.

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        • Trisomy 21 says:

          I don’t know about you guys but when he’s gone I don’t think there will be anyone better for his job – and by that I mean an opinionated analyst. I like most of the guys on TSN but getting an opinion out of them is like pulling teeth. It’s as if they’re so worried that if they show any personality they’re going to lose all their credibility. And There’s no need to even mention PJ and Healey.

  16. Just wanted to echo comments below defending Gionta, and to say that even if he’s been snakebit this year, his long history of consistent scoring and his indisputable skill level force teams to put strong defenders out there against him — defenders who then aren’t available to defend against our other offensive threats.

    @people complaining that Gionta’s no superstar, of course he’s not. But you frankly don’t need a $10M/year superstar — you need nine guys at $2M-$5M who can score 20-30 goals apiece. I don’t know that we’re there yet, but for the first time in a long time, we’re in the ballpark, and Gionta is a piece of the puzzle.

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  17. Habfan10912 says:

    Robert’s serious look at the Hab’s prospects.

    http://www.allhabs.net/canadiens-prospects/catching-the-torch-dietz-excels/

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  18. Chrisadiens says:

    No……..just no.

    http://www.gamepointsradio.blogspot.ca/2013/02/why-canadiens-should-trade-lars-eller.html

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • Cal says:

      Wow. And that guy has a job with TSN690? Typical.
      I’ve tried listening to them in my car. I can’t. The worst one is Melnyk in the afternoon. He seems to want to talk about anything other than sports. He has an effing laff fan as one of his cohorts on the show. Last year, I wondered why the only English language sports got such crummy ratings. I don’t wonder any more. They are piss-poor and spend hours on subjects like American college football. Way to connect with your audience there, bright boys.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Eller for Clowe?

      Eller is 22 and improving.

      Clowe is 30 and a UFA at the end of the season.

      Dumb trade.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Like Matthew’s show and his suggestion to after Clowe. However, his suggestion to trade Eller is ridiculous. According to his logic, the Habs should have given up on Plekanec early as well. You don’t trade a potential 2nd line center with a good contract for an upcoming UFA.

      • LizardKing12 says:

        At Eller’s age Pleks had yet to play 82 games and he didn’t break out until he was 25! We’ve been looking for a big top 6 center for decades. When paired with talented wingers Eller’s line is usually one of the best on the team e.g Eller with Chucky and Cole or Eller with Moen and AK last year. The more opportunities Eller gets to play with talented wingers the sooner he will break out IMO.

  19. commandant says:

    @habfan17

    Yes I would trade the 1st and 3 seconds to get any of the top 4 picks in this draft. I doubt another team would take it though.

    Quality, especially elite quality is very hard to obtain. This trade to me would be like trading in 4 lottery tickets and ensuring that you get the jackpot.

    Go Habs Go!
    Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • 24 Cups says:

      Let’s assume the Habs make the playoffs and their 1st rounder comes at around the 20th spot (Lebalnc/Tinordi types).

      Approximately one out of four 2nd rounders go on to be decent NHLers. For discussion sake, let’s make it one in three. You could land up with a Collberg/Kristo/Lats type pick or you just might hit paydirt with a Subban.

      That means the Habs would be trading two decent but not star quality NHLers in an attempt to grab a Drouin or Barkov. I’d do that in a heartbeat.

      A chance to add one more building block could give the Habs the solid foundation they need.

      • commandant says:

        Exactly what I’m thinking. The second round picks are not sure things. For every Subban, there is a decent but not great player like Lapierre, or a bust ala Cory Urquhart.

        The chances of getting the true building block corner stone piece are so much higher with the top 4 this year.

        Of course the team with that pick is probably thinking the same thing and is unlikely to trade it.

        Go Habs Go!
        Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports
        http://lastwordonsports.com/

        • LizardKing12 says:

          I would be down to trade the picks for a top 4 pick because it will give us the opportunity to get an elite offensive prospect that could potentially play with Galchenyuk on an unreal first line.

          However, Timmons is easily one of the best head amateur scouts in the game. Giving him 4 picks in the first 2 rounds of what is believed to be the deepest draft in years (comparable to 03) could potentially set the Habs up with one of the deepest rosters in the NHL 2-3 years down the road.

          The 03 draft had some very good players picked between pick #20 of the first round and the end of the second. Kessler, Richards and Perry were picked in the last 10 picks of the first round. Eriksson, Kevin Klein, Patrice Bergeron, Shea Weber, Matt Carle, Crawford and Backes were all second round picks. If Timmons can grab a Perry/Richards/Kessler type in the first and a player of similar caliber to the best 2nd rounders in 03 this team will be in a good position.

  20. veryhabby says:

    What’s with all the negative comments about Kristo ever signing here. I really believe most fans are over-reacting (what wait! that never happens with hab fans!) I think him not signing yet has nothing to do with him not wanting to be a hab and EVERYTHING to do with him not valuing the AHL much.

    I read an interview he did at start of this season. His BBF, Leblanc was telling him how good it was with habs and encouraging him to make the jump this year. But after reviewing everything he decided he really didn’t want to leave NCAA without having another shot to win the tittle. His team is a fav to make it to the frozen four. If it wasn’t, I think he would have left. But when he evaluated….a chance to win a championship or jump to AHL…he made his choice.

    In this interview he also goes on to say (i paraphrase)… that he expects to make the habs next season and did not feel playing this seaon in the AHL would have helped him any extra to make the habs next year. So again, it’s NCAA vrs AHL for this kid.

    Now I have never seen him play. I know he is doing GREAT this year in NCAA. But it is expected as a high draft pick who is in his 4th year to be leading in scoring etc. Most high picks do not play all 4 yrs as they make the jump earlier. So he is an elite player this year. I don’t know if there will be a roster spot for the kid next year with the habs, but I also never thought there’d be a spot for both Gall and Galchenyuk this season. so anything can happen. and we will see if he is NHL ready next year or not.

    • Rad says:

      You make a good point, that for Kristo last year the decision was NCAA vs. AHL. He surmised that he would prove himself in his final year at UND, and that is precisely what he did. A number of scouts have said he has Top 6 potential. It would be great if he signs with the Habs after the Frozen Four concludes. Then he can show his stuff in Hamilton for the tail end of this year, and even get a look-see in Montreal. Habs need to get him signed, but as Loonie has pointed out repeatedly, the ball is in his court. Danny boy holds all the cards at this point.

  21. Garbo says:

    Only two minus players right now on the whole team.

    I think that speaks volumes to the balance this team has that has been lacking for years. No more one or two line teams holding up the fort.

    Therrien is rolling four lines who are scoring and defending well. Keep that stat up and they’re certain to go deep in the playoffs.

  22. Timo says:

    So… safe to say Price’s in nets tonight given his records against the sens?

  23. Cal says:

    HIO will have to go from “measuring stick” to “traveling stick” this week and next. Will a .550 won-loss record be good enough for the “trade everyone ” crowd?

  24. HabinBurlington says:

    So why is this Habs team arguably overperforming? I believe it is almost as simple as a great balance of character.

    Gionta – undersized his whole life, 2 Cups, work ethic, responsible on the ice.
    Cole – a battler in the true sense of the word. To come back from a broken neck and work hard enough to be back for the playoffs, he is a bull in the china shop, and lets not forget what he did for Louis Leblanc last season getting his parents to the game.
    Markov – beyond being a beautiful player prior to the injuries, his perserverance to get back to the dance is inspiring.
    Gorges – another undersized player who does nothing but compete game in and game out.

    These types of players show the younger players what it takes to not only make the NHL, but stay in the NHL. We may have heard time and again about Gomez being good or that he got along great with Andrei Kostitsyn, but seems to me we don’t have any passengers on the roster who are dressing for games every night.

    I hope this run continues, I still don’t think on paper we are a first place team, but this team seems very rich in Character, and from what little I have seen on 24CH it seems this is both MB’s and MT’s primary focus.

    • mark-ID says:

      New Jersey on paper has never been a 1st place team….doesn’t stop them from constantly being near top of conference though. They just always played well as a team….some the Habs are doing currently.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Habfan10912 says:

      True Gerald. A bunch of road games coming up and that type of leadership often pays dividends during those games.

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      If you are right then an undeniable fact is that PG/BG were on the right track…

      • Cal says:

        BG was until his daughter passed away. He rebuilt the pipeline from the AHL to the NHL. unfortunately, a GM in Montreal has to be perfect to not have his hockey knowledge deemed to be wanting.
        BG was always into acquiring character players. He was the ultimate character player.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Many good moves for sure but some incredibly poor ones as well. The Gomez trade alone may be a fireable offence and the Kabrele trade was a panic brain fart move. In fairness there were some good trades and signings but at the end of the day you get judged on the teams record.
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    • Rad says:

      Character has something to do with it. Prust adds grit. I think the Gomez buyout was addition by subtraction, and a huge lift for team morale. Those minutes had to go somewhere, and they’ve gone to the kids, who inject energy and enthusiasm. Galchenyuk has really lifted the spirts of the Hab faithful. For the first time in a long time, Habs have a game breaker type of player. And he too, has character — family values, humility, and a great work ethic, in addition to talent. You remember what Bergevin said about Alex at the draft, “I saw it in his eyes.”

    • veryhabby says:

      Sure character has a lot to do with it. In that light, Markov/Gionta being gone most of last season did have an impact on the “character/leadership thingy”. But after the disaster that was last year, I think the biggest thing was for the players to actually see a change this year. MB/MT brought that change. The fact that they started winning, just added to confidence in both themselves as a team and in the “change” the new management brought.

      Minus Gomez, add Gionta/Markov/ the 2 rookies/Prust/Bouillion…and almost a fully healthy team all season long. It’s huge changes and all together it adds to this team winning more then losing this year.

      I do tho look at the roster and think there are still holes to fix before we are an elite team on paper. But so far so good so I will enjoy to the fullest!

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Agreed, you make some very good points. The one thing I disagree with is referring to Gorges as undersized, he’s listed at 6’1 200 lbs. He’s no Chara but definitely not undersized.

  25. Timo says:

    FFS! Forgot to set the PVR before I left the house. Scheiße!

  26. Sportfan says:

    Instead of listening to the lecture in class I decided to look at our draft history and this http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00006929.html
    is really nifty because it shows the amount of games played by guys we drafted

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  27. HabinBurlington says:

    Ian, thanks so much for posting the HNIC nostalgic trip down memory lane. Wow, watching that video puts me in a good place, much appreciated. For those who didn’t watch it, I reccomend it, what is most interesting is that there is no footage of fighting, yet it gets the blood boiling for hockey in its purest form.

    Here it is again for those who missed it.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/wQ5leZrQk-0

    • Habfan10912 says:

      A nice step down memory lane for even an American kid growing up near the shores of the St. Lawrence River. I wish they would have edited out the footballs at the end though. :) Thanks Ian.

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  28. mark-ID says:

    I’m very excited for tonights game. Being from Ottawa especially.
    I expect alot from the guys tonight. I was unfortunate enough to be at the first game in Ottawa this year, when they beat us 5-1.

    Out of the lineup for Ott tonight are Spezza, Karlsson, Michalek and Anderson. There is no excuses tonight. Despite all of their injuries, Ottawa is proving to be a team that has depth, and are finding ways to win…..but this should be a game that the Habs take advantage of.

    If we win tonight….we will be at 28pts, approximately half way to what we will need to make the playoffs(56pts being aprox. magic number)

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  29. The Jackal says:

    Would anyone trade our first and all second rounders this year for Drouin?

  30. krob1000 says:

    That headline still bothers me…there was nothing wrong with Pacioretty’s hit (IT WAS BOARDING)….Mcdonagh turned into it…the right call was made…2 min for boarding..which it was but the idea of taht being suspendable was not right from the get go. The only reasons there was a phone call was Torotorella is a Ranger coach and was vocal about it, Mcdonagh left the game and it was clear Max and he had something going…those other factors are great and all …BUT….they do not make the actual hit any worse…it just simply was not that bad of a hit…that play happens all the time and the guys face just doesn;t end up in the boards like that…just as the McD hit on PAcioretty on the boards does not normally end like Patches did.

  31. Sportfan says:

    I didn’t realize this and it might be wrong but the Islanders only draft D-men last draft http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007085.html

    Maybe the Oilers should try that and add a goalie :P

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  32. SmartDog says:

    Below ppl are talking about Edmonton and why they can’t win games after so many top picks. Agreed. Here’s a question: if you have all of these talented young players, why not trade 1 to fill out your roster with some strong veterans to build a winning culture?

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • CanadienBoy says:

      O,reilly could be the solution for them

    • habs_54321 says:

      the oilers are the worst managed team in the league when tambellini said “we have worked so hard to be in this position” at the draft before selecting yakupov 1st overall i lost all respect for them just like the year before “we are extremely proud do be in this position” what gm is proud to be the worst team in the league and how can you say you worked so hard for this? worked hard to be last place?

  33. awesomerino says:

    NHL: “Look Max, we’ve been over the McDonagh hit. It wasn’t great. We’re gonna have to do something. What would you say is a fair suspension?”
    Pacioretty: “Good question. How many’d Chara get for *attempted murder*?”
    *crickets*
    NHL: “You have yourself a nice day.”

  34. Sportfan says:

    Tonight is going to be an interesting game to watch, mainly because it is between two surprise teams the Sens who have been destroyed by injuries and the Habs we all know they have been this surpirsing, should be a fun game. Btw anyone know if any of the sens players that are injured returning tonight?

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • smiley says:

      Sportfan-not sure. Milan Michalek and Peter Regin were day to day. So is GUI and goalie Craig Anderson is still out.

      • SmartDog says:

        Glenn Healy on HNIC put up a chart of a bunch of Sens out of the line-up, and then dramatically referred to all of them as “irreplaceable”. GUI was one of them. LOL

        Honestly, what an idiot Healy is. He makes PJ Stock look mature by comparison. Has he always been this way or is he taking lessons from Milbury?

        ————————————-
        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      The Sens can’t keep this up the entire season with Spezza and Karlsson…Habs have to keep taking advantage of these injury advantage scenarios. Teams did it to them last year…

    • nunacanadien says:

      The Sens are tougher than the habs, it’ll be like a tougher version of the laffs, basically making sure Gionta, Prust and Cole spend the game on their backs causing the rest of the team to buckle under.

  35. Ian Cobb says:

    I can not seem to get this article to highlight. sorry!

    I would like everyone to read this article please.

    Kerry Goulet
    Kerry Goulet shared a link Hockey still in battle with concussions: “Great article, great questions from the reporter and fantastic insight from Keith Primeau, co-founder of stopconcussions.com”

    Hockey still in battle with concussions
    poststar.com
    GLENS FALLS — Eleven months after suffering his fourth documented concussion, then-Philadelphia Flyer Keith Primeau was still fighting to return to hockey. The 34-year-old still wanted to play.

  36. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    We have the better team. Can we do it tonight ???????

  37. ed says:

    Why the Oilers under perform year after year?

    Because the “veterans” they have never produce any offence.

    They’re plugs. 3rd and 4th line stiffs.

    Guys like Shawn Horcoff, Ryan Smith, Eric Belanger, are not productive, and so all the pressure to produce falls on the young guns exclusively.

    Instead, you need to balance the lines with young players and veterans.

    Playing Cole with Galchenyuk and Eller will usually work for Cole and for the young players.

    Playing Paccioretty with Gallagher and Desharnais, same thing.

    Because we have much better balance in our production, our experienced players feed off the energy of the young guys, and the young players learn from the older guys.

    So what the Oilers need to do is trade for some more experienced players that can still produce, and pay them. Then they can play along side the young guys, create time and space for the young guys to skate , pass and shoot, and teach the young guys shift to shift, game to game.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Oilers…no defense, no goaltending…

      • ed says:

        16, five on five goals, in 17 games. that’s not about defence and goaltending

        • Cal says:

          Too young and too much too soon.
          Habs won Cup always with a mix of youth and vets. And great goaltending. And defense. And Hall of Famers.

          • ed says:

            they do have veterans on the team. but the veterans don’t produce.

          • Cal says:

            @ed- Oilers management decided that they would rush their prospects into prominent roles on the team. Of all the young guns on the team, about half won’t pan out because they are being given responsibility they are nowhere near ready for. You see it in all their minus figures.
            The Oilers culture has changed into one of losing, and that is one tough habit to change.

          • nunacanadien says:

            Always with size to fight back. We don’t have size to fight back. We have a tiny tyke of a scrapper who only fights other tiny tykes.

      • Sportfan says:

        DDOHabs_Fan is right they have no D and so-so goaltending, if they blow it again this season DRAFT A D-MAN they have enough forwards! What the heck is going to happen when all these Forwards hit their prime and want over 5 million plus a year

        http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • HabinBurlington says:

      There is also the factor that neither Kevin Lowe or Steve Tambellini have the remotest concept of how to run a team. It is beyond all reasoning that Kevin Lowe still has a job in that organization.

    • Phil C says:

      Good point about the lack of a support cast.

      They are also lacking veteran defensemen. Justin Shultz is great, but when a rookie who weighs 185lbs has to be your number one defensemen, you have problems.

      I don’t care what you have for forwards, if your defense is bad, you will not produce offensively. A solid defense core will result in less time in your own zone. They also start the offense by winning puck battles in their own end, and making a good first pass instead of just chipping it out. When the defense is weak, the forwards are often forced to over-commit into their own zone at the expense of the breakout. Remember all the running around in the Habs own end last year? I’m trying to forget, but it is not a recipe for scoring goals. Bottom line – a good offense starts with the quality of defensemen.

      To be fair, it must be tough for Edmonton to attract good UFAs. But there is no excuse for not trading some of their offensive talent for some veteran defensemen.

    • boing007 says:

      The Oilers, as a team, have been underperforming with all those star players. Time to make some changes.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  38. Loonie says:

    Young Jordan Subban is essentially the same player as Ryan Ellis was at his age.

    Subban is ranked #81 among North American Skaters by Central Scouting and I don’t know where ISS has him but it isn’t in the top 30.

    Somebody’s going to get a bargain.

  39. Chuck says:

    Regarding the discussion below of trading prospects to move up in the draft… prospects no, picks yes.

    I like what Columbus (was it Columbus?) did when trying to move up to the top of the draft: offer all of your picks to essentially guarantee yourself an impact player. Heck, most every player past the first round is a crap shoot to make it to the NHL, so why not offer a bunch of ‘maybes’ in return for a ‘definitely’?

    ___________________________________________________
    Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Loonie says:

      The Isles offered their entire draft to the BlueJackets to move up from #4 to #2.

      Scott Howson declined.

      The players selected were Ryan Murray and Griffin Reinhart.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think we can afford to have one season where we give up a significant number of picks for a high pick. We are fortunate in that Timmins seems to hit a higher percentage of NHL players with his picks than many other chief scouts.

      • nunacanadien says:

        The only problem is Timmins still has his theme park ride template of you must be no taller than 6 feet and weigh less than 200 pounds the horrible Gainey experiement to see if midgets can win a stanley cup. Time to give up that experiment. If Timmins is behind our draft small, think small then maybe it’s time someone told Timmins the new NHL is anything but small.

        Time to draft big and sign big. Sure we have some great prospects but they are only as good as our bigger tougher players can prove, and this year with the habs a bit bigger our prospects have shone. Time to start drafting bigger and heavier if Montreal wants to remain a champ.

  40. 24 Cups says:

    The Habs play four times this week including back-to-back games on the weekend (Pittsburgh/Boston). They then turn around and repeat the same workload the following week (weekend games against Florida/Tampa).

    So I guess the question is when will Budaj get his next start? Can Price play 7 games in 13 days before taking next Sunday off?

    Would Hab fans be happy with 8 out of 16 points during the next two weeks?

  41. Ian Cobb says:

    These were the good old days.

    Some Saturday night memories for the HIO family

    Hockey Night In Canada

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/wQ5leZrQk-0

  42. AliHaba says:

    Well Monday morning arrives and our Habs are still performing above expectations. I’ve always held the opinion that last season was an aberration but never did I expect that first place after 18 games would occur. Keep it going boys!

    For the past number of weeks I’ve been listing the Habs’ prospects according to games, points, and +/-. I began this as something to keep me sane during the lockout (not sure if it worked). So last week I’m on the Habs’ page of the NHL website and find a much more detailed and up-to-date listing than I was doing. So friends I’m off the hook. It was fun though while it lasted. Just go to http://www.nhl.com and click on the Habs’ page and find the prospects listing.

    Go Habs Go!!!!

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Hey”DD!” There’s something really enjoyable in reading all your data posts along with the other “data posters’ ” facts right here on HIO rather on the official websites. It probably has something to do with the pulp fiction nature of HIO where you can go from a post with excellent facts right to a following post that tells you your mother wears army boots. “I’m still your mother’s favorite player.”

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • nunacanadien says:

        We have done good once again against lesser teams. Now we find out whether we have what it takes against bigger teams and whether we have what it takes to get into the playoffs.

  43. HabFanSince72 says:

    To those of you who follow the west, why are the Oilers once again in the lottery zone? After three consecutive #1 picks you’d think they would at least be in the top half of the standings.

    As it stands they could finish with a top 5 pick.

  44. Loonie says:

    Drouin v. Mackinnon

    Drouin’s offensive abilities and production at this point both in junior and international competition have to vault him ahead of Mackinnon in the eyes of the hockey men who know what they’re doing.

    Jones and Drouin go #1 and #2 if the teams picking at those spots have any idea what they’re doing.

    Just my opinion.

    • scuba says:

      MacKinnon is still a beast and I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go first even though I think Drouin is going to force himself into the top spot. MacKinnon just has too much of what teams want. He is a center with eleit levet shot and speed. I think because of the early hype machine with him and what Drouin is doing, people think this is a knock on MacKinnon but he is still an elite prospect.

      Hopefully both Portland and Halifax make the Memorial Cup. I really think that would go a long way to deciding the top 3 picks.

      ——————————————————————————————————–
      I can’t tell if the Habs are great or terrible because sometimes they win and sometimes they lose.

  45. Lafleurguy says:

    Good Mornin’ cranky people! More coffee!
    There’s a large amount distrust and lack of confidence among the washed and unwashed. If one trusts the current make-up of the team, zany trades would not be proposed. Hal Gill netted a 2nd round pick last year but only because of the overvalued nature of the trade deadline market. A younger Hal Gill netted TO a 5th rounder from Pittsburg. An oversight in historical write-ups is to not clearly mention the counterpart, the “foil,” to genius or virtuoso performances. Remember Ralph Branca and “the shot heard around the world?” Who were the GMs who made all those trades with Sam Pollock? To those “foils,” it’s probably best that they are not mentioned or remembered. The major surprises of this season starts with the Golden Rookie. The Little Engine Who Could (no. 73) is also a major pleasant surprise. The amount of depth on this year’s team is also unexpected, and very pleasing. Couple of days ago, I mentioned last year’s 4th liners (Palushaj, Nokelainen, Blunden, Leblanc) and forgot to mention Anders Engqviist. Do you think Yannick Weber will see time on right wing again? Unless an offer-you-can’t-refuse, trade proposal comes from one of the competitor GMs, I advise against trades that eat into depth. Eating clock is OK when you’re ahead, eating depth isn’t.

    “May you live in interesting times.”
    P.S. I see eight minutes before I posted, Ian voiced a similar opinion.

  46. Ian Cobb says:

    No trades! Well maybe a small tweek or two.

    Bergevin said it himself, we will improve continuously through the draft and development program.

    Millions are spent through these programs, so why trade it away for a ringer that may not fit in here. (example Gomez, Kaberle)

    We have the best scouting & development people in the league now. Timmins is one of the best scout’s in the world. Scout Vaughn Karpen is another employee that you do not hear much about.

    A team that comes from the very bottom of the barrel to the very top of the barrel in one year, should not be trading.

    The roster stays pat until someone is ready to move up and replace an older pair of legs.

  47. HabinBurlington says:

    Let us assume that indeed the price for a top 3 pick in this years draft is two firsts, 1 2nd and a prospect or roster player. I am also assuming this trade can be made near the completion of the season, thus having given MB the entire season to evaluate not only the Montreal Roster talent, but also the pipeline in Hamilton etc…

    Assuming again (yah lots of assuming) MB and company are thinking Beaulieu/Tinordi are going to make it, and Kristo (who we know wants to play in Montreal ;-) )appears to be rounding in to form, at some point isn’t it worth it to give up some drafts in order to get the riches of a Drouin or Barkov etc….

    I say this because look at the impact of a Galchenyuk already. It is very rare to be able to get franchise changing players, and I am hopeful Galchenyuk is one of those. Our farm system is on the verge of producing some nice depth for the team, and we will be replacing some aging veterans in the coming years. It sure would be great to have our own version of Crosby/Malkin in the form of Galchenyuk/Drouin per se.

    My point is this, I would consider giving up those draft choices for an elite talent. Granted, I am assuming Rick Dudley blesses the move, as between he and Timmins they have some of the best judging abilities of talent around.

    • Loonie says:

      I would consider what you’re proposing for a Jones, Barkov or Drouin. Nobody else.

    • Cal says:

      Habs struck gold with Chucky. Wonder if Edmonton is as happy with the Yak?
      Chucky is a very special player and has shown that he is coach-able.
      I’m trusting Timmins and Co. to get out there and strike more gold this draft season.

    • Mattyleg says:

      What I think is risky is that these days injuries are so prevalent that banking on one player to change the tide is riskier than ever.

      Gone are the days when the Lafleurs and Gretzkys of the league can play game-in-game-out and really have a long-term impact for their team. Look at Crosby; he’s been great for the Pens, but when he went down, they had to look to Malkin. They are lucky that they sucked so hard that they have a rake of top picks to carry them through; this wouldn’t happen with another team.

      The Rangers are missing Nash. If Tavares ever got hurt, the Isles would be (even more) effed.

      Galchenyuk has done great things for the CH, but he’s one bad hit away from being MIA, as we saw with Gallagher.

      I’m wary of trading building blocks for a more complete team for an impact player.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habfan17 says:

        That is a reality, but it is a fear that teams cannot allow to factor in when making decisions. When a team has good depth, they can offerd to take the extra risk In this case the reward is greater than the risk IMHO

        Habfan17

        • Loonie says:

          Very good point.

          (not sarcasm)

        • Mattyleg says:

          Yeah… ughhh.. it’s difficult.

          I’d love a great player that will get people leaping out of their seats.
          But while it’s true that we have good depth at the moment, as we saw last year, injuries test that depth very very quickly, and even the deepest pool will dry up in the hot sun of man-games-lost (jeezis, that’s a tortured analogy. Never mind.).

          Let’s wait for HH to log on and we’ll see what he thinks about trading prospects! ;)

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Habfan17 says:

            It may be best to wait another year and see how some of the newer prospects transitioon to the AHL first. I do have to say that players like Collberg, Hudon, Bozon and Kristo have me really loooking forward to the future. The same goes for Tinordi, Dietz, Beaulieu, and Ellis

            Habfan17

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Matty – I think you need both. You need a Lafleur type AND you need a very good supporting cast.

        Lafleur had the best team of all time supporting him. Gretzky had one heck of a backup band too.

    • Habfan17 says:

      That was my point exactly. Gems and franchise players do not come around often and in Drouins case, he is sort of home grown.

      Thank you for communicating what I failed to do. My point was, is a franchise player worth 3 second rounds and a first. It may not be enough, I was jut looking for opinions. I do think Timmens is one of the best in the business.

      Habfan17

  48. SlimDiggity says:

    I, for one, really hope Kristo signs here. I’ve watched him play quite a bit at UND and he’s consistently the best player on the ice. His skill level is very high and he plays with some grit despite not being overly big (5’11” 185lbs). Great skating, handles, and finish. Best prospect we have that hasn’t put on a Habs sweater yet.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Sakic and Stevie Y weren’t big, neither are Datsyuk and Zetterberg. For that matter either is Kane. That is not to say that Kristo is in their league, but maybe he would be close!

      Habfan17

  49. Loonie says:

    If you want a top 5 pick in the coming draft the ask starts at this year’s first round pick, at least one second round pick, next year’s first round pick and a prospect or roster player.

    Or you can wait for an excellent player to fall to you like Kerby Rychel, Max Domi or maybe even Valerei Nichushkin.

    • Habfan17 says:

      and you know this how? All 30 teams should be bashing down your door to sign you as GM, you know everything!

      Habfan17

      • Loonie says:

        Grow up.

        I don’t know everything, but I know based on history that the return for a top 5 draft pick is a King’s Ransom.

        And before you suggest it, no the BlueJackets won’t be taking Yannick Weber and Ian Shultz for the first overall pick.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Sorry Bud you are th one who needs to grow up and get real. You are constantly discounting anyone elses opinions and putting your forth ans gosple!

          Stop putting your trade suggestions off as mine or anyone elses. Just the fact that youmade up that absurd trade proposal shows you really need to grow up!

          I will not comment on your posts anymore, it is a big waste of time

          Habfan17

          • Loonie says:

            Your feelings have been hurt since your Eller, Desharnais, Weber, Kristo and a 2nd round pick for O’Reilly trade suggestion was seen as laughable.

            Sorry you were offended by my reply but if you recall I edited it the very second that people started to pile on because it wasn’t my intention to see you ridiculed.

            If you’re going to suggest crazy things you need to be able to deal with the replies.

            Sorry that it offends you but the suggestion I made about what I feel you might propose as a trade scenario while an exaggeration falls in line with nearly everything else you propose.

            That’s on you, not me. Not unlike people replying to NunaCanadien with paragraph after paragraph of incoherent poetry.

            Edit: And so we’re clear, it isn’t just me who replies to your nonsense. If you can’t deal with people calling your lunacy for what it is, read instead of writing.

  50. Loonie says:

    I think Corey Perry wants to play for the Habs.

    The Habs were his favourite team growing up and he’s never said publicly that he doesn’t want to play for them.

    See the flaw in that lack of bloody logic?

    Same applies to Kristo. When a player who can’t negotiate with any team says he wants to play for the team that drafted him it must be considered that suggesting otherwise would lead to speculation of tampering.

    I’m not saying Kristo won’t sign with the Habs, though I believe it’s unlikely.

    I’m saying that his words mean NOTHING until he signs on the dotted line.

    Kovalev said he wanted to play for the Habs and signed with Ottawa. Plenty of other examples. Pipe dreams are like coffee.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      So your saying we are getting Corey Perry! Woohoo!

      • Jarliy says:

        Come to think of it, Sid’s favorite team has always been Montreal. Before he was drafted — still playing Midget AAA — he said he hoped to play for Montreal in a few years.

        Maybe we can buy out his bazillion dollar-a-year contract? :P

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    • Mattyleg says:

      Why do you think it’s unlikely?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Loonie says:

        In the case of Kristo it’s that he can wait until August and select one of multiple offers from teams, which will at the very least force the Habs to offer him a max deal which they may or may not be willing to do.

        In the case of Perry it’s money. Can’t see the Habs being able to meet his contract demands.

        • Mattyleg says:

          But there could be many reasons for him to be waiting it out.
          I think that saying that it’s unlikely is as speculative as saying that it’s likely.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Loonie says:

            I won’t argue that point Matty. But his words ring hollow until he signs with the Habs.

            I’m not sure what people expect him to say when asked about the Habs. It isn’t as if the kid’s gonna go on a rant about how he’d never play for them.

    • habstrinifan says:

      All I know is that Jagr wanted to play for the HABS. And so did Shanahan. And Crosby is just checking his contract daily so he can escape and join the Habs. And Doug Weight would have liked to finish his career here. And oh yes… Ovechkin is willing to take a discount to play for the HABS.

  51. commandant says:

    The Skinny on Beer Prices in every NHL arena. (normalized per 12 ounces if you think the Montreal one is too low. Had to compare apples to apples, so the same size beer).

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/02/25/the-skinny-on-beer-prices-from-around-the-nhl/

    Go Habs Go!
    Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

  52. Steeltown Hab says:

    I love the depth on this squad.

    Armstrong is playing his best hockey of the year but still is a lock for the scratch when Bourque is back IMO. Moen-White-Prust is an ideal 4th line.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Pacioretty swapped with Bourque, give Plekanec a more dynamic scorer to work with.

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  53. HabinBurlington says:

    For those too young to remember and for those of us too old to forget here is classic and original Fonzie jumping the shark.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

  54. adamkennelly says:

    Kaberle is getting the Gomez/Redden proposed treatment before the league altered the rules for them. Kaberle will not play hockey for anyone as long as the Habs are stuck with his cap hit.

    • Strummer says:

      Why did he skate in the warm-up on Saturday?

      Does he not practice with the team?

      Gomez was sent home you may remember.

      It’s not the same thing.

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  55. Habfan17 says:

    It would be great ig the Habs could get Drouin!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6xPcWUJmM

    Habfan17

    • commandant says:

      Unfortunately, I don’t see us drafting anywhere near high enough.

      Go Habs Go!
      Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports
      http://lastwordonsports.com/

      • Mattyleg says:

        I’m sure HF17 wants us to trade any player on the team for a shot.
        ;)

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Habfan17 says:

          You would be completely wrong Mattyleg! Don’t give up your day job! unless it is as a Psychic, then give it up immediately ;)

          Habfan17

          • Mattyleg says:

            Heh heh.
            It’s just that you’re always suggesting that we trade our players.
            I figured it was a fairly safe bet!

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habfan17 says:

        Me either, but it is nice to dream. If you were GM, would you trade the first round pick and all the second rounders if you could get the pick to take him?

        Habfan17

      • SlimDiggity says:

        Being that we likely won’t get a chance to pick in the top 10, who are you looking at for a late first round pick?

        Where is Tony Duclair expected to go?

      • habstrinifan says:

        A GM will have to be exceptionally brave, if he had a chance, to draft Drouin above Jones and McKinnon. But let’s say you are sitting and watching the draft go by and those two players are drafted 1st/2nd … then, especially if you are the HABS, you do the very very best to get Drouin. It would be a win win situation.

  56. habsfan0 says:

    Is it a certainty that Price is starting tonight?

  57. rated_R says:

    I just want to make it clear about people saying Kristo doesn’t want to come to Montreal. A friend of mine met him in Las Vegas and they started talking about Montreal and my buddy doesn’t watch hockey at all but Kristo told him he got drafted by Montreal and he WANTS to play in Montreal. So Ppl stop making the assumption that he doesn’t want to.

    • Loonie says:

      He’s declined multiple contract offers.

      Until he signs it’s fair to be of the opinion that he doesn’t want to.

      • Jim Edson says:

        Reckon he weanted to finish school.

        Not unreasonable!

        ———————————————————————-
        What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

        In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

        They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

        ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Not when you opinion is not based on fact, it is illogical. Kristo has never said he does not want to play in Montreal publicly, except for what rated_R just posted. He did say he went back to UND to try ti win it all as he felt he and they fell short last season.

        Sure you can say he may not sign, but stop being so damned stubborn about it. It is just your opinion and is not based on any information currently available to any one of us, the general public.

        It would be one thing is you specualtaed that due to the depth the Habs have on right wing, he may decide to sign with someone else, but to say that since he declined multiple offers makes it fair, makes absolutely no sense. Up until now, I have read of one offer past season. Up until then, he wasn’t progressing very well and had that “injury” I doubt the Habs offered him mutliple contracts before that. It makes no sense, They can only have so many players under contract at one time and they did not have to tie him up then, they had time.

        Habfan17

        • Loonie says:

          For the last time…..

          HE HAS DECLINED MULTIPLE CONTRACT OFFERS FROM THE MONTREAL CANADIENS.

          Interpret that however you want. What isn’t open to interpretation is that he would rather finish school than play for the Habs.

          Does that mean he doesn’t want to play with the Habs? No, it doesn’t. But he’s had the opportunity to join the organization on more than one occasion and has opted not to.

          And quite frankly actions speak louder than words. If he signs with the Habs I’ll believe he wants to play for the Habs. Until then, I’ll remain skeptical.

          AND AGAIN FOR THE LAST TIME…..

          The reason I’ll remain skeptical is because in August he can wait for offers from ANY NHL TEAM.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree with you that the assumption cannot be made he doesn’t want to play in Montreal. All we know at this point is that he wants to try and win a College Championship with UND and most likely get his University Degree. Two things which in my books are admirable.

  58. Marc10 says:

    It does pose the question… who sits when Bourque returns to the lineup?

    Armstrong has been setting up Moen for goals, White is winning faceoffs, and the rest of the gang is either too valuable or just rounding into form… so I guess it’s Armstrong.

    That was easy. Nice problem to have…

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Has to be Armstrong, no? And yes, it is a nice problem to have.

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    • Loonie says:

      It wouldn’t surprise me if they gave Prust a night off. It looked like he was really hurting Saturday night.

      • Cal says:

        That makes the most sense. Give Prust a day or let Bourque recover until Wednesday.
        Over a month in and no Habs on LTIR. It’s hard to fathom.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I am leaning the same way, however, I heard them commenting on how many consecutive games Prust has played. I think he takes a great deal of pride in being in the lineup, night in and night out. However, he has taken a beating in recent games and some therapy would bode well for him.

    • rhino514 says:

      The only questtionable move of the off-season: wasting one million on Armstrong. Not convinceme he brings more than White or Blunden.
      Looking at the team so farit is mostly chock full of good stories. There is something that to me is slight cause for worry:
      Markov, after eighteen games, does not have A SINGLE point 5 on 5.
      It´s great that we have him back on the PP, but this, coupled with the fact he is minus two, is slightly worrisome. Has he turned into a one dimensional player?
      Marky, cole, and Bourque (until he performs for a whole season) remain question marks for me, though I am more encouraged about Cole after last game.

  59. HabinBurlington says:

    So with Max catching a break from Shanahan, and the fact McDonagh appears to have just a bruised face, soon Torterella is going to have to face the music regarding how his team is playing. Habfan 10912 brought up an excellent point the other day regarding the benching of Gaborik. If Arthur Fonzarelli indeed is losing his top players ears, he may indeed soon get the thumbs down from Glen Sather (Mr. C), especially with a coach like Lindy Ruff hanging around the NHL unemployment office.

    Another big game tonight, and it doesn’t appear Craig Anderson will be in net for Ottawa, would be nice to see the Habs take advantage of this.

    • Cal says:

      All is working out according to The Great Plan of 2013 as devised by G. Molson and M. Bergevin. Soon, many teams will quake in fear when they face the Habs. Ok, maybe not. ;)

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Lindy Ruff being on the market will make a lot of coaches sweat in the coming days, weeks.
      Morning bud.

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    • Loonie says:

      The Rangers remain one point out of eighth with a game in hand on the Lightning.

      They’re obviously underachieving but expecting them to stay where they are or worse for the remainder of the season is a bit silly in my opinion.

      That roster is too good to “expect” them to finish out of the playoffs or near the bottom of the seeding. It may happen, but I wouldn’t be wagering anything on it.

      ;)

  60. Loonie says:

    The team has taken 13 of a possible 14 points in the last seven games and I just read that the captain should be scratched.

    Am I still asleep and dreaming right now?

  61. Habfan17 says:

    In the end, I was surprised Patches didn’t get a game. It looked to me like McDonough thiught that if he continued behind the net, he would get plastered so he turned back, only Patches was able to adjust and out guess him. What goes around, comes around.

    I am all for either sitting Gionta or moving him down to the 3rd line and cutting his ice time. Gallagher has proven he can handle more ice time and has been way more effective and is more of a scoring threat at this point.

    If Cole still wants to retire, or simply play in the US and would honour his contract, then I would say, trade him at the deadline. He is starting to get points but the Habs have depth on that side and could get something for him rather than have him retire and get nothing.

    I would also entertain offers for Gionta at the deadline. If the plan is to keep Galchenyuk and Eller at centre long term, then Bergevin will have a tough decision to make this off season. Eller could be a 3rd line centre, however, Pleks, DD, and Galchenyuk are not and you can’t have 3 top 2 centres. Someone will have to move or change positions. With the depth at centre and right wing, I would say someone will be moved, but who?

    It s nice to see the Habs with options for a change.

    Habfan17

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Brian Gionta and Tomas Plekanec are consistently drawing the assignment of covering the other teams best line. A prime example is the NYR game, where such a good job was done that Fonzie in all his brilliance decided to bench Gaborik for the 3rd. While it would be great if Gio had some more goals, he is being very responsible for the entire length of the ice, thus the teams excellent record to start the season.

      Also, Gionta still is getting himself open for scoring opportunities, he is presently snake bit on getting goals, but this too shall pass. Just as Cole is starting to shake the rust off, I would look for Gionta to start getting goals, but even without, he is helping this team a great deal.

      These quality shifts by Gio and Plex are allowing Therrien to get players like Galchenyuk into matchups favouring their skillsets.

      Sometimes I think individual stats do not show what players are doing on the ice to help the team win. End of day, our team is playing excellent as a team.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Points taken, although I did say that Gallagher was more effective, not just a scoring threat. He also plays the full ice and wins more battles than Gio at this point and is faster. I agree Gio still brings value, so put him on the 3rd line and make that the shutdown line and then the Habs still have potential offence too! It is nice to ba able to have these discussions. It has been too long since the Habs actually had options.

        Habfan17

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I think Gionta’s ice time is reflective of matchups, this may lead to be called the number 1 line. I do hope GIo gets some goals soon, would be good to see him get rewarded for his hard work.

          Did you by chance see him on L’Antichambre after the Ranger game? Was excellent to see our Captain fielding all kinds of questions in that forum. Another sign of how different our organization is being run with MB at the helm.

          • Habfan17 says:

            No I didn’t see him, I am sorry I missed it. Nice talking hockey with you! I hope Gio has a bit more success on the score sheet too. I do agree, some of the biggest contributions never make the score sheet.

            I am thinking long term when I speak of moving Gio and Cole at the deadline if they get something that would help them longer term. I think they have enough leadership now that they could afford to make some moves. Although I am not sure what is up with Gorges and PK. They played great as a pair last season and now Gorges seems like he wants nothing to do with PK. Very weird and not cool if he will have a bigger leaership role in the future. Maybe Gorges should go if it can’t be worked out?

            Habfan17

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I think next season, MB is going to have some big decisions to make as it relates to veterans like Gionta and Markov. We may be able to graduate a defenceman or two from Hamilton, and perhaps another forward.

            Of course if attendance continues to improve league wide, our salary cap could go right back up in 2 years time, which will give MB a great deal more flexibility.

            Have a good day Haban17!

        • Cal says:

          Gallagher is way behind Gionta in terms of development. And no, he isn’t noticeably faster. Gallagher has been protected by MT so he can shine when he is on the ice, the same as Chucky.
          Throwing away Cup winning veterans is what a poor GM would do. Habs are winning. Why shop anyone besides the bench warmers?

          http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

        • boing007 says:

          And Gallagher is going to learn a lot from his Captain, Brian Gionta.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • scavanau says:

        HA! Fonzie…

      • CanadienBoy says:

        U need those guys for the playoff , as well the young guys are just that young ,let them learn from Gio and Cole ,next year cloud be the time to let them go

    • The Cat says:

      Come on man, Gionta’s the captain. Captain’s retain the benefit of the doubt as long as they wear the “C”.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  62. habs001 says:

    The team has to work on their pk as it is 16th overall…they are getting away with it now but as the season goes along and potential playoffs 16th will not be good enough….Argo was okay but every year there are dozens of movies of the same quality…

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I was thinking of seeing Argo, maybe I won’t go out of my way to see it now. Just so I can gauge your taste, what did you think of Looper?

      • Marc10 says:

        Argo is OK. You don’t need to go to the theatre to see it. I give it a 7.8 out of 10. The revisionism that makes the CIA guy the hero pissed off the Canadian Ambassador to no end. The usual Hollywood BS treatment… Still, it’s harmless.

        Looper was a much more novel concept. You don’t really end up giving a rats about the protagonist and that’s its downfall, but otherwise it delivers a decent amount of suspense. 7.4 out of 10 for Looper.

        • Clay says:

          Jimmy Carter also publicly stated the film did not give credit to the Canadians, who came up with the plan.

          __________________________
          ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

    • Cal says:

      All this hoopla over a film about a CFL team? No thanks! ;)

  63. 25insight says:

    God I love seeing rangers fans this butthurt. It’s like their team was always healthy and never went through adversity or injuries. They need to get a fucking grip. Starting from their fanbase to the players to the coach, they have their heads so far up their asses it’s like an infinite loop. Look at the injuries we had last year. Pacioretty has had so many serious injuries, if i was him i would have plowed McDonagh even harder than that, suspension or no suspension.

    • Jim Edson says:

      McDonough was on the flight outbound to NYC!

      Even Dr. Recchi would question a 3 hr concussion recovery!

      The guy had a bloody nose and cut lip!

      Likely held him out in order to draw a suspension nothing is beyond Tortelini.

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      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.


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