Pacioretty called up

The Canadiens have recalled Max Pacioretty from the Hamilton Bulldogs.

The announcement:

 Pacioretty, a 6’02’’, 208 lbs forward, aged 22, played 52 games with the Canadiens last season. He recorded 14 points (3-11-14), served 20 penalty minutes and registered 74 shots on goal, while averaging 14:43 minutes of ice time per game. In career in the NHL, Pacioretty has collected 25 points (6-19-25) in 86 games.

Pacioretty ranks tied for first with the Bulldogs and tied in first place in the AHL with 32 points (17 goals, 15 assists) in 27 games this season. He leads the league in goals and is tied for second in the AHL with 7 power play goals. He also ranks first in the league with 132 shots on goal. He displays a +4 plus/minus differential and has served 20 penalty minutes. Pacioretty was named the Reebok/AHL Player of the Month for November, after posting a 10-7-17 record in 13 games.
Pacioretty was the Canadiens’ second pick (first round, 22nd overall) in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

Earlier today, David Desharnais was returned to Hamilton. The speedy forward was called up as a preventive measure yesterday in case he was needed. Turns out he didn’t dress for Montreal’s loss to the Maple Leafs in Toronto and is now back in Hamilton, where he suited up for today’s Bulldogs game.


  1. Jonson says:

    lol yeah you are actually funny. did i mention the money?? i dont think i did. im purely basing it on his play. i really liked him last year despite his total points. last year he was skating from one end to another like it was nothing. i havent been on here long but ive been watching for many years and i know this team as good as anyone. if you like the way gomez is playing than you are the one with issues.(Money aside)

  2. Mark C says:

    Big differance between the two. Max just turned 22 a few weeks ago, Locke is 26. Max is 6-2 and Locke is 5-9.

  3. Geoff F says:

    No, it’s Patch oh rett ee.

    He’s of italian descent.  Apparently his family changed the spelling of his last name to anglicize it however the Italian proper pronunciation is as i described above and not an “s” sound.

    Just like Dino Ciccarelli is (CHICK A RELL EE) and NOT (SISS A RELLY) as has been mispronounced throughout his career.

  4. Number31 says:

    It sucks… They showed him working out in the gym after the game to show the weight room. Has a big brace on his knee :(

  5. Number31 says:

    Esposito is rehabing his injury but is still with the Chicago Wolves (Thrashers).

  6. Bill J says:

    That is the proper pronunciation of his name…

    Not Patchioreti…

  7. HardHabits says:

    Hello Mr. HI/O member for: 4 weeks 6 days

    I have proven one thing. That I am well written, beyond just correct spelling, but also with the ability to articulate. I can be controversial and I can be funny. All these are signs of intelligence. This apparently upsets you.

    Let us know when you’ve gotten the spelling part worked out.

  8. ctony says:

    ah, your standard welcome message for newbies, “you couldn’t possibly know anything because you’ve only been on HIO for  …”.  HIO membership proves nothing. You’ve been here for two years and haven’t proven yourself intelligent.

  9. HardHabits says:

    I’d say give him a trial before the trade deadline. If he looks good send him back to Hamilton and let him know he’ll be back up for the end of the season and the playoffs. If he looks awesome keep him in the line-up. If he doesn’t look ready the Habs will have an idea what they’ll need to trade for.

  10. HardHabits says:

    Hello Mr HI/O member for: 3 hours 9 min

    Tell me why are we missing him? The team is 0-2 without Gomez. I wont even explain it to you because you obviously haven’t been reading anything here and if you have it’s all over your head. Let’s just say that’s it’s a little more complicated than the so tangible it’s simplistic equation salary/points = value.

    JM has to be one stupidest coaches in the NHL – Very interesting considering he’s looking like a lock for a Jack Adams nomination.

  11. habs-hampton says:

    ummm…   You do realize that right now, JM is probably a front runner for coach of the year?  Last night’s game sucked, but  it was an anomoly in a 82 game season. There were other sucky games (Atlanta, game 1 against the Leafs) and there will be more, but barring some more injury touble, we’ll be fine. We miss Gomer’s speed with the puck, and as I’ve said all along, he’s an important part of the team chemistry.

  12. andrewberkshire says:

    I love how the CBC is even biased for the Marlies, saying Fortier should have been in the box for his hat trick. So stupid.

  13. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bulldogs find their scoring to roll over the Marlies, now 5-1 with a Fortier hat trick, he’s having the game of his life right now. Going to be hard for him to get scratched as healthy bodies return if he keeps this up.

    D Mathieu Carle with 3 assists today.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  14. jennifer1984 says:

    Hat trick for Fortier!!


    bulldogs are playing a great game.

  15. PeterD says:

    OFort gets his hat-trick…wait a go kid…

  16. Matt_in_TO says:

    Was just looking at the 2007 Draft where we took MaxPac and found something interesting.  The leafs traded their 1st and 2nd picks that year for Toskala and we all know how well that worked out for them.  The Sharks then flipped those two picks to St. Louis for their 1st and took Logan Couture.  St. Louis used those picks to draft one Lars Eller and one Aaron Palushaj! 

    Speaking of the ’07 draft, anyone know what happened to Angelo Esposito?


    – In Price We Trust

  17. Jonson says:

    you cant bring up patches and let JM break his confidence. Let him light it up this year in Hamilton. It will make him a better player for next year. Hopefully JM will be gone by then. Montreal has the fowards but JM needs to know how make good line combinations. It SHOULD be like this:




    Pyatt-lapierre-boyd ( they played great against Detroit)



  18. Laramy87 says:

    Its time to bring up Max Pac. He may be just what the 2nd line needs.

    Gio-Pleks- AK

    MaxPac – Gomez- Cammy

    I think that would work well… Moen is not a finihser so having two finishers on one line with a setup man, mite help Gomezs numbers as well

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’s tied for the lead in AHL scoring with Corey Locke.

    Scoring in the AHL doesn’t mean you will score in the NHL.


  20. rocketsglare says:

    Notice the hustle and hard work of the Dogs today. Just a pleasure to watch.

    Go Dogs Go!

    Go Habs Go!


  21. zak says:

    JM at the Dogs and Marlie game today .Pac scored a goal.

  22. Itsik says:

    Good to see JM works at the game

    Hope he calls up DD and max pac

    Great combo

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  23. HabFanSince72 says:

    I agree completely.

    For the last 4-5 years our PP has been either one of  the best in the league (when Marky was playing) or one of the worst (when he was hurt). Now that he is gone for the season we need to find another solution. I think Pleks, Cammy, AK46 and Gionta are all good PP forwards. The problem is the QB position. Our two options are make a  trade or wait until PK or Yannick learn on the job.

  24. rocketsglare says:

    With JM in attendance, could something be in the works? Team could definitely use some added muscle and scoring

    up front. Make it happen JM.

    Go Habs Go!

  25. SeriousFan09 says:

    They call him Puckee-o-ready in NHL 10.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    Turning into a rout, Bulldogs control the zone on the PP, Carle picks up his own rebound, feeds Desharnais, who feeds Pacioretty on the doorstep for a tap-in, his 17th of the season.

    Nash having a nice game as well, I like his upside.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  27. Psycho29 says:


    (As that CBC hack Jeff MArek calls him….)

  28. PeterD says:

    MaxPac…nicew goal kid…with JM watching in the press box…getting a look for the big club?

  29. SeriousFan09 says:

    Certainly making his case right now,  I was a little concerned his game was a little too impressive to sustain but he’s clearly raised himself to a new level this year.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  30. SeriousFan09 says:

    Knee injury, will likely not be back until the end of the month, or next according to reports.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  31. Mark C says:

    I was of the school of thought to leave him in the AHL all season or until 10 or so games left, and then call him up for a trial before the playoffs. But, given Max’s play, he is really moving up that time frame. This clearly isn’t a two-week hot streak, we’re talking about two month of league dominate play.

  32. Habscore says:

    Hey guys!

    Why isn’t White playing in the Dogs game? Did I miss anything? Hurt or something?



  33. SeriousFan09 says:

    After a testy crease battle, Fortier manages to tap the puck over the line as it was just squeaking past the Marlies netminder and gets his 2nd goal of the game, he’s got a 3-point game so far, which is better than what he had all season going into tonight.

    Conboy, gotta say, really surprising me after I was ready to write him off last season, all over the place with his body and doesn’t mind sitting in the crease. He had 8G, 5A in 66GP last season, he’s got 6G, 2A in 26GP so far this season and almost had a 2-goal game himself.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  34. SeriousFan09 says:

    Might see him in the 2nd half of the season at the rate he’s going, Habs will have to dump Boyd (but that’s coming sooner or later) to make room but if he continues his PPG pace and his goal-scoring it could be the missing element to our Top 6, or at least a servicable one over Moen.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  35. rocketsglare says:

    Good point. Habs could definitely use more muscle and scoring up front. But, I doubt they will bring him up

    any time soon.

    Go Habs Go!


  36. Mark C says:

    Sending DD saves a small amount of cap space and allows him to play AHL games, he can be called up again if Gomez can’t go. I would think Gomez plays, he skated and traveled with the team, one would think the extra days off will help.

  37. habs001 says:

    we are not the type of team to put away teams because we lack fire power…this is why our pp has to be way better than it is…majority of our games are very close and we have very little room for error, a bad bounce or have the opposition win the pp vs pk battle…with this line up we could play well in a series and win the games 1-0, 2-1 3-2 but just as easily we can be beaten by the same scores…right now unless there is trade or one of our roster/ahl players breaks out beyond expectations the only way we will score more goals is by the pp..while we have great goaltending and a solid d…right now if we played any of the other 29 teams in the playoffs the scores would pretty well be not much different whether we win or dont…

  38. Jonson says:

    We are missing Gomez??? lol he has been terrible this year. Gionta needed to get off his line to produce. Cammy has struggled playing with him. Gomez has no more than 10 points. Tell me why are we missing him? Okay so he can take the puck into the zone…ummmm…. does nothing because he cant score or get any of his linemates to score. The majority of the scoring comes from plekanec’s line. Did we have Gomez in the third period against Detroit? no we didnt and we still dominated them. Montreal could have easily beaten the leafs lastnight if they decided that they wanted to play. Gomez or no Gomez they cant play like that and expect to win. for weeks and weeks ive been hoping they would move Ellar up to the second replacing Gomez, the kid has been amazing! and why not bring up pouliot to the second line to replace Moen?? Cammy, Ellar and Pouliot would have way more success than cammy gomez and moen. JM has to be one stupidest coaches in the NHL. Everyone gives him credit for the teams success. I knew at the beginning of last year that we simply have good enough players to compete at a high level. Anybody who thought Montreal was going to have trouble this year just simply doesnt know this team. We need to fire JM replace him with a young guy who can help progess young players, not destroy them.  As for Desharnais..simply to small. everytime they bring him he does nothing. Guys like patches, White, and Maxwell will be our future.


  39. Chuck says:

    “We want waffles!” (clap clap, clap clap clap)

    “We want waffles!” (clap clap, clap clap clap)


    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

  40. Mark C says:

    Max-Pac over his last 19 games has 16 goals and 26 points. He is now 5 goals away from his career high in the USHL in 2006-07 (in 60 games). He is generating 4.8 shots a game and has a 12.4 SH%. He is producing at a dominate level in the AHL right now, at what point will he force the Habs to call him up? I’ve long thought he was rushed (the Habs were forced to) and needed more AHL development. If Max-Pac continues to produce at this level, Montreal might be forced to call him up, as he represents a need on the NHL roster.

  41. rocketsglare says:

    Love how the Dogs are attacking the net. Shows commitment and dedication. Great game BTW between the

    Dogs and Marlies.

    Go Dogs Go!

    Go Habs Go!

  42. SeriousFan09 says:

    Andrew Conboy is having a much better season than his rookie season with the Dogs that was great net prescence even if it was the Marlie who put it in the net. I may just have to give him a bump to Habs Future and scratch Schultz for now.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  43. Chuck says:

    Yeah… great goal, wrong net.

    By the way, if the Marlies suck, will their fans now throw Mini-Eggos onto the ice?

    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

  44. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hopefully he also has Byrne’s ironic wit. You need it in the Laffs organization.

  45. win4ce says:

    Looks like the leafs have another future McCabe

  46. rocketsglare says:

    Can the Dogs move that puck on the PP. Simply a pleasure to watch.

    Go Dogs Go!

    Go Habs Go!

  47. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s the Habs, we’ll be lucky to know what’s up with Spacek by the time the puck drops on Wednesday. Better hope Gomez is playing on Wednesday, two games in two nights against our biggest rivals this season will be a grind.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  48. slapshot777 says:

    Anyone here anything on Spacek. I guess with Desharnais being sent back must mean that Gomez will play on Wednesday. Why else send him back.



    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  49. Ian Cobb says:

    In a 30 team league, this is where we place, compared to last weeks position.




    Goals Against— 61, We are in   2nd place.   Last week we were in   2nd place, with 53.

    Total Points—– 38, We are in   5th place.    Last week we were in   4th  place. with 36.

    Goals For——– 78, We are in 17th place.    Last week we were in  15th place, with 71.


    had better get this guy Gomez back soon, before things get ugly. Also
    the chemistry and passion had evaporated from our game last night.

    only two players that carry the puck through the neutral zone and into
    the offensive zone with speed and creativity are MIA.  One injured, the
    other is now off his game for showing to much passion and creativity.

  50. HabFanSince72 says:

    Headline in today’s Journal de Montreal: “We need to learn  from this game – Alex Auld”.

    Yes, Alex, we do. And Lesson Number One involves you and that bench where the players sit during the game.





  51. Psycho29 says:

    Do you really think Auld is to blame? In a game when the team scores only one goal?

    In 3 games he has made 95 saves with a 2.01 GAA….

  52. dh says:

    Probably wasn’t the difference in the game but was that the same ref that sucked in Detroit?

  53. habs365 says:

    Couldn’t care less about the first player MIA…The second player came to play every night…it would appear jm don’t like players that show too much passion and creativity…soon he’ll have another OB on his hands…guess who’s fault it’ll be…that’s what happens when you listen to Don Cheery and vets that complain…if martin had left the player be…this player would still be the best player game in and game out as far as passion goes every game…too bad…he may have to depart Habs land to get back on track…..

  54. CanadienBoy says:

    PK lost a game or two so what,it is a small price to pay for him to learn and develop is own style, but wait this is Martin robots

  55. habs365 says:

    Gotta pick someone for a scapegoat…think we saw this movie before with PK

  56. HabFanSince72 says:

    Stats don’t tell the story. Auld gave up two bad goals in the 1st period. That is never helpful.

  57. SensFanSpezza says:

    Yah, send Desharnais back to Hamilton because the Canadiens don’t need anybody who can score goals or set them up.  The Canadiens are so offensively gifted, they can score at will.  They just choose not to sometimes.  Who needs a guy who can go to the net and put the puck right on Gionta’s or Cammalleri’s tape every time?  Not the Canadiens!  They’re flush with scoring talent.  What they need is another fourth line grinder.  You can never have too many of those.  Those are the guys who play the Jacques way, straight up and down, collapsing to the net and blocking shots.  When you have ten of those guys in the lineup, there’s no room for a boring goal producer like Desharnais.  He’s just not a Jacques player.

  58. Exit716 says:

    LMAO. Martin is no Cory Clouston, that’s for sure. Why don’t you worry about the Senators long term future? Once they miss the playoffs again this year, you’ll be crying for more home games against the Habs and Leafs to fill up your barn in Carp.

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    David Desharnais has 7G this season in Hamilton over 25 games, Yannick Weber our defencemen call up had more after 15GP, that’s real scoring talent. Mind your own team, Desharnais is an undersized playmaker.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  60. weightman25 says:

    ummm 3 and 1 vs. ottawa this season???

  61. PrimeTime says:

    I was going to post another comment to those who think we would be better off with Gomez but there really is no point in doing so. Your minds weren’t changed in last years debate and the it’s not going to be changed in this years. The same people also think that PK should be able to do whatever he wants because he is a ‘star”. Heh Heh. Maybe someday you will understand that this is a team that is successful by the sum of its parts….not individual players or their stats. Each makes each other better when they play as a team. Perhaps that’s the concept you just can’t your heads around. 

    Many of you you probably didnt see the great Hab teams play in the 70’s. Yes many of those players became legends with many HHOF inductions but you know what….each became better players because of one another, not as individuals. Sure, players like Lafleur stood out more than others but if he played for the Leafs back then do you think he would hold the same stats?? Do you think really Cournoyer’ Lemaire, Shutt would have made other teams contenders on their own?? Not a chance. The teams were great because they were great TEAMS coached by a master who would not let anyone of them play outside the team system. There were many star players back then….Perrault, Dionne, Makita, Ratelle, Clarke, Espo, Orr, etc…but the Habs ruled the roost because they were a better TEAM.

    Perhaps a better example for your generation are the Oilers. They had Gretz, Mess, Anderson, MacTavish and others but who won a cup after their main ‘star’ was traded??? Although they were much improved after a couple of years, the Kings din’t win it all but the Oilers did without Gretzky. 

    So please open your minds past ‘star’ players because we don’t have them. Gomez, “our highest paid player” is not Ovie, Sid, or Stamkos and never will be. PK will not win us a cup on his own this year or any other year. But each player is a key ingredient to this TEAM. Hopefully some year soon we will win the Cup and then the key contributors will be the ‘stars’ that you all desparately seem to want. But none of them will win it on their own here or anywhere else.


  62. CanadienBoy says:

    Agree but do you remember a young Coffe who could not play defence or a Yarie Kury who could only score goals ,they let them play there styles by surrounding them with complementing players and systeme

  63. habsguy says:

    I don’t think anyone ever said they want PK to just do whatever PK wants to do, but a GREAT team compliments each other.  Did you watch the teams of the 70’s,  if you did you have noticed Savard or Robinson rushing the puck while Guy Lapointe looked after the other end,  Shutt never back checked in his life,  but he sure could score goals.  They couldn’t practice a power play because nobody knew what the Flower was going to do.  When it did break down,  which wasn’t very often because they had the 3 best d-men in hockey,  they had Dryden between the pipes.  plus they had the best coach to ever coach,  and lets face it,  they were the best because they had the best team…

  64. ed lopaz says:

    No one wins ON THEIR OWN – without the help of his teammates.

    But each player must PLAY THEIR GAME – Gorges can not play like PK and Darche can not play like Cammy.

    When each player hits the ice, he has a mental picture in his head – this is HOW I PLAY.

    The puck is dumped deep into our zone – Spacek goes back to get it.

    Spacek does NOT react the way PK does.

    Spacek looks to get rid of the puck – PK looks to hold on to it.

    Does that make Spacek better than PK.


    But that’s what Martin wants.

    He wants PK to go back, get the puck, and play like Spacek.

    Bang the pucks off the glass.

    Find a winger and dish the puck.

    Go D to D.


    That’s what makes PK different than Spacek.

    Do we need a Spacek on this team – probably.

    Do we need a D-man like PK – who will play like PK – yes. I think so.

    They play different games – which makes the TEAM BETTER for it.

    That’s the way I see it.



  65. SensFanSpezza says:

    Last I checked, he also had 23 assists.  Now, I might be way off base here, but assists mean he sets up goals, right?  So, when he gets an assist, a goal has been scored by his team, and he’s helped make that happen.  And the last I checked, he was doing that as often as anyone else in the AHL.  Then again, I might be wrong.  Maybe an “undersized playmaker” who’s better than a point a game isn’t what the Canadiens need.  After all, they have tons of guys setting up shooters like Cammalleri, Gionta and Kostitsyn.  They don’t need another “playmaker.”  Goals scored is the only stat that counts, right?  They must teach that on the Habs Prospects site.  I don’t spend my time “borrowing” info from there, so I wouldn’t know.

  66. SeriousFan09 says:

    If you think all I do is borrow off of Habs Prospects I wouldn’t bother with Hab’s Future, I spend time with my own research and use different sources to keep up on the prospects and prepare my reports. I’ve seen him play before and I’ve checked his stats. He’s also doing pretty well right now partly because Max Pacioretty has found a whole new level in his game this season. Desharnais lacks the speed of say, Gionta and he’s never been renowned for his ability to stand up to much physical force, I’ve seen players one-hand shove him in the O-zone a little too often to make one believe he can stand up in the bigger, faster, stronger NHL.

    It’s not like he could have centered a Top 6 line and he’s too small to be a checker.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  67. ed lopaz says:

    SF – we all enjoy your work here on Hab’s Future – keep it up!


  68. SensFanSpezza says:

    I’ve seen him play too, and there’s a lot more to his game than physical strength.  He has a knack for disappearing, then reappearing at the other team’s net without the defense catching on.  He’s working really well on the PK this year and he’s winning faceoffs.  He can make very accurate passes on the rush, and he never gives up on the puck.  He’s also gotten faster.  I agree his speed would have held him back two years ago, but now he’s noticably improved.  Pacioretty is much better, that’s true.  But his chemistry with Desharnais is part of that.

    Look, the Habs don’t have a second line center with Gomez out, so what’s the harm in trying the guy with a couple of NHL wingers?  Gionta, Cammalleri and Kostitsyn all need playmakers on their line, and there’s not enough Plekanec to go around.  It has to be better than sticking one of them with Halpern.  If they give Desharnais a shot and he proves he just can’t stand up to the physical pressure of the NHL, fine.  But maybe he’ll surprise and actually contribute.  They won’t know unless they try.

  69. showey47 says:

    I think Desharnais can play in the bigs in the right situation. I also feel he would be better off learning to play wing.

  70. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lars Eller? At least he’s got the size to keep on the puck and set up other players, you need some size on the Top 6 as well and frankly I don’t see a guy who’s 5’7″ on his skates and wearing his helmet will give the Habs a useful element to their top 6 when size is an issue already. Might as well see what Eller can do with some scorers on his line.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  71. SensFanSpezza says:

    I would like to see Eller with Pouliot and Gionta on his wings, basically replacing Gomez when that line worked last year.  But Martin doesn’t seem inclined to do that. 

    Size is nice, but it shouldn’t trump talent.  Just as I read your comment, I watched Desharnais make a sweet pass from behind the net for a PP goal.  The guy is skilled.  There’s absolutely nothing wrong with giving him a chance.  If he can’t do it, he can’t.  If he can, it gives the Canadiens three centers with the ability to set up a goal.

  72. SeriousFan09 says:

    Sometimes size has to trump talent and Lars Eller has a far better NHL potential, he’s a better skater and very strong on the puck. I’d give him the second line because he’s better suited to it IMO, I don’t think Desharnais would last. I don’t have anything against small players but sometimes you can have too many of them.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  73. SensFanSpezza says:

    You don’t think he’d last.  We won’t know until he gets a chance.  He’s earned that much.  If Travis Moen on the second line is size trumping skill, I’d rather try it the other way, thanks.

  74. showey47 says:

    I was hoping to get to see Desharnais play. But considering how early spacek went down i guess it was good we had 7 defensemen dressed. Now if we can only get more then 1 powerplay a game.

  75. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well maybe we won’t get Tom Kowal in our next game, where did that hack come from anyway? I know Kerry Fraser was not a beloved figure by many but he never pulled rank amateur crap as he did.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  76. showey47 says:

    dogs and marlies on cbc.

  77. jennifer1984 says:

    nice to see the dogs up by 1.

  78. SeriousFan09 says:

    1-0 Marlies, good work by Desharnais, Pacioretty on the PP, Desharnais with the setup, Pacioretty with the screen and little-known prospect Olivier Fortier had the goal (A Former Guy Carbonneau winner in the QMJHL (Defensive Forward Trophy, 3rd round, 65th overall in 2007).


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  79. SeriousFan09 says:

    Alex Avtsin with a nice skilled rush and draws a penalty in the process. Very slick hands as always, needs to be better away from the puck but he’s got an excellent potential. Russians are a marvel with the puck, wish more of them would come over.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  80. slapshot777 says:

    Kowal is an idiot. He is right up there with Chris Lee for worst referee in the League. He looks like he is lost out there and skates like he just crapped himself. He done back to back games against the Habs and he ws the one who pretty much stuck it to the Habs.

    Had a bullsh!t call with the too many men and had a couple of crap calls in that Detroit game and the only thing he is consistent in is his crappy calls. He should be back doing minor hockey to try and refine his calls.



    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  81. Samovich says:

    I think Avstin looks good too, only 19yrs, with some size and skill, but a work in progress….

  82. slapshot777 says:

    Considering that Avstin is only 19 years old and over in a strange enviroment to him with no family, learning english, playing in a smaller rink, different sytems. I would say he is doing pretty well. He also had a wrist injury when he came over, that hampered his training camp. The first half so far is going slow and not according to plan, but I can see him improving game by game and I think once he gets more comfortable over here in North America he will become a much better player.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  83. Jonson says:

    Another russian….dont expect too much from him

  84. SeriousFan09 says:

    Another bigot, don’t expect much from you.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  85. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    where are the damn mods on this site!! I see posts get deleted that have nothing wrong whatsoever yet they let racist crap like this stay.  what a complete joke.

  86. Say Ash says:

    HI/O member for: 4 hours 42 min

  87. HardHabits says:

    I know this is going to sound crappy but when Spacek went down last night my 1st thought was, “great now Martin isn’t going to use Weber as a forward anymore!”

    Seriously. I am so sick of this Streit/MAB/Weber-go-round.

    My only hope is the coach gets back to basics. Roll four lines of forwards. Shorten the bench if need be. Keep the D-men where they belong, on the back end. No more Weber on the wing please.

  88. MTLForever says:


  89. WestHab says:

    This is interesting but remember some of the fuss about Ryan White not making the show at the start of the season after his exceptional camp? Where does he rank now?

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  90. SeriousFan09 says:

    Out with a knee injury, likely for the rest of the month, missed two weeks already. White’s a pure bottom-6 player, some preferred the Habs had never signed Boyd or put White in place of Pyatt. Next season he may get a kick at the can but right now he’s got to heal up and get back to doing what he does best in HAM.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  91. rocketsglare says:

    Good call up. With games against Philadelphia and Boston next week, Pacioretty’s added muscle, scoring, and

    jam will definitely help against these two team’s.

    Go Habs Go!

  92. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Bloody fantastic!

    Wanted the Habs to give him a chance before using that cap space for a forward.

  93. avatar_58 says:

    I would have called up Desharnais AND Pacioretty, and maybe benched Pyatt for a game. They have amazing chemistry

  94. WestHab says:

    Good point and I’d hate to predict anything but it’s early in the season and we have no idea where injuries may occur before the trading deadline.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  95. salshabs says:

    It’s a complete waste of time if JM plays Max Pac on the third and fourth lines.  He is playing well as producing in Hamilton because Desharnais is feeding him and creating chances for him to succeed. Right now, on the Habs, with Gomez out, there is only really Pleks that would fill this role for him, and, wingers are lining up to play with him as it is. 

    If Max Pac is relegated to the third and fourth lines, he will be hard pressed to stick with the Habs. We all know by now that JM is a disaster when it comes to rookies.  Let’s hope the damage he has done to PK can be overcome, and, the main reason Eller’s ice time has gone up is because of the injury to Gomez.  

    JM, let PK be PK…,give Max, and Eller, a chance to succeed…

  96. avatar_58 says:

    Pacioretty – Eller – Pouliot is what I see happening, with a shift or two in place of Moen on the top 6.

  97. salshabs says:

    That works for me…

  98. thebigguy says:

    Why is it a complete waste of time for a player to play on the 3rd or fourth line? It certainly hasn’t hurt Lars Eller and Benoit Pouliot, 2 young players Jacques Martin has done a phenomenal job guiding them to become NHL regulars. Both Pouliot and Price looked like they were on their way to having fairly short careers, Martin’s scolded and praised them when needed and the team is lucky to have him.

    What young players have Martin ruined? Pouliot, Price, Eller have progressed amazingly. PK is less than 50 games into his career. He’s hardly ‘ruined’


    Hell, even Yannick Weber got some time on the 4th line and now look at him 😉

  99. rocketsglare says:

    I doubt management would be calling up Pacioretty to play him as a bottom 6 forward. He has so far produced

    like a top 6 forward and will likely start on the 2nd line.

    Go Habs Go!

  100. SeriousFan09 says:

    What I was going to say, that 3rd line would look pretty damn good.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  101. habsgod says:

    PACIORETTY ELLAR CAMMALLERI is what i’d like to see as a line then we could go back to


      that’s if spacek can’t go next game

  102. light_n_tasty says:

    [insert hypocritically indignant comment bashing poster for being happy about injury to player here]

  103. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I like it. Hopefully Spacek’s back though – he’s contributed a lot this year and Habs line-up won’t be the same without him. 

  104. punkster says:

    Jam? I’d prefer he left the sugary products and brought peanut butter because the way the team played the last two games I suspect they’re not getting enough protein in their diets.

    Is the addition of Pacioretty the missing piece this team requires to magically wake up? I really doubt it. They’re  a good team and will do fine over the long haul however one single AHL callup isn’t going transform them. As a team, from Coaches on down to those warming the bench, these guys have to start playing 60 minute games.

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  105. JasonM says:

    Please for the love of god, use him on the top 6.

  106. scrowe21 says:

    Didn’t expect this..He said today after the game something like ” Theyre winning and doing fine, the longer I stay down here the more it will help my career ” When he was asked about being called up. Didn’t seem like he wanted to be called up at all. lol

  107. The M says:

    Brutal D pairings, why play the teams two right handed shots together.  Subban with Hamrlik, and Picard and Weber played well together

  108. bwoar says:

    I was horrified when Spacek went down but I did see Weber on D as a silver lining.  I’m with you on the D-as-a-forward thing, I absolutely hate it.  But this was a time where it actually ended up being a good call, because we needed Weber in the end.

    Hoping we don’t have to sit trough too much more of it though.

  109. HardHabits says:

    As much as you try you still fail.

    I never said I was happy Spacek went down. If anything I saw a silver lining but that is all. As much as I can’t stand Weber as a forward I’d still much prefer Spacek healthy and Weber on offense than Spacek injured.

    Nice try though. Keep at it. You might come up with a good retort sooner or later.

  110. SeriousFan09 says:

    Or after kind of putting his foot in his mouth in an earlier interview, he’d rather not make it sound like he thinks the Habs need him…


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  111. avatar_58 says:

    Btw I think another callup is in order -Sanford to replace Auld. What a terrible backup. Good attitude or bad, he stinks. Completely stoppable goals. Yes I agree they were defensive gaffs, but his inability to track the puck did him in.

    The 2nd goal was brutal. An AHL goalie knows to go into a butterfly when it’s low…..he sticks his hand down hoping he gets it. ARG.


    Pardon me but we win that game with Price in net.

  112. Josh says:

    I don’t blame him. He’s developed more in 30 games in Hamilton than he has in 2 seasons in Montreal.

  113. avatar_58 says:

    Every AHL player wants to be called up. He just didn’t feel like saying “yeah they need me bad, did you see last nights game? P U”.

  114. SeriousFan09 says:

    Price can’t play every game, a lot of teams try and do that with their goalies and it blows up in their faces.

    Sanford wouldn’t be very sharp if he only started once every 10 games as well, he’s playing well in HAM because he is taking the majority of the starts and it keeps him sharp.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  115. Mark C says:

    Give me a break, one bad goal. The guy has a .941 SV% in his 3 games. 

  116. Josh says:

    That’s why they picked him up in the first place because he’s terrible. Gauthier didn’t want Price to have any competition and luckily for us, Price has been outstanding so far.

  117. SmartDog says:




  118. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s a backup, not a starter, he’s not supposed to be amazing. Considering he’s started 3 games this year, all separated by a long time, and he’s put up a 2.01 GAA and .941 save % calling him terrible is an absolute joke.

  119. A. Berke says:

    Not to mention that with the first mistake JM will make him sit the pine & he knows that. 

    Ali B.

  120. A. Berke says:

    That would be the more sensible D pairings IMO.

    Ali B.

  121. rocketsglare says:

    Good post and analysis.

    Go Habs Go!

  122. ABHabsfan says:

    This could be a real exciting line and I hope you are right. I would be putting Gorges/Gill out with them though ’cause I don’t see much d-zone ability. That’s alright though, I would like to see some goals. 1 goal against the league’s worst defensive team is shameful

  123. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yes, because man, that Dan Ellis guy we let go is ruling the league this year. Auld’s had 3 starts, he’s a career backup and he didn’t exactly get a ton of help in his last couple games. No goalie looks good playing about a month between starts.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  124. Da Hema says:

    How about assigning blame to where it should go: the skaters in front of him (his “teammates”) who played a dreadful and embarrassing game for a goalie they knew damn well would need support given his infrequent starts.


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  125. HardHabits says:

    Hahaha. Xtrahabsfan just got Timonized, again!!


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  126. samTHEman says:

    Wow didn’t expect this. Even with JM at the Bulldogs game today. I guess they wan’t call him up now when he’s hot and peaked onfidence. Will be interesting to see if he plays on the top 6. I will be SHOCKED if JM still plays Moen on the 2nd line with Pacioretty AND Pouliot in our line up.

    AK – Plek – Cammi/Gionta

    Pacioretty – Gomez – Cammi/Gionta

    Pouliot – Eller/Halpern – Darche

    Moen – Eller/Halpern – Pyatt/Lapierre


    These are my lines. They’re not set in stone. Nothing is with JM anyway but you get the idea.

  127. Da Hema says:


    I saw his post under a different username in ALN. Given his consistency–i.e., that his posts are identical even with a different username–he must be just as insufferable in real life too.


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  128. samTHEman says:

    Toronto’s 2 first goals are not goals with Carey in nets, and he should have been. Toronto have Armstrong and their captain back, on home ice, against the hated Habs, on a saturday night, you know they’re going to be playing their asses at us. You play Price logically. Don’t give me that fatigue crap. Sure they were back to back games but the next game after that is on Wednesday. More than enough rest. Did you guys see Price on the bench when they showed him? Don’t tell me he didn’t want to be in Auld’s place.

  129. ABHabsfan says:

    I am pretty happy that the Habs didn’t keep Ellis, he has looked terrible. The Lighning could miss the play-offs and it will directly the result of poor goaltending

  130. Mikey_39 says:

    I know everyone is screaming for him to play on one of the top two lines, and honestly I don’t see why they would call him up if they were just going to keep playing moen as a top 6.  




    Pouliot-Eller-Pacioretty anyone?

  131. Mike Boone says:

    Not fair. He made some good saves. It’s tough when you play once a month.

  132. samTHEman says:

    Pacioretty and Pouliot are both LW so that won’t be happening. Pacioretty will play with Gomez on the 2nd if he’s back against the Flyers on Wednesday. If not, probably with Eller.

  133. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs couldn’t knock in 3 goals against a sad-sack Leafs squad, end of the day a couple of ovehyped cases like Phaneuf and Armstrong shouldn’t stop the Habs from dropping them.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  134. rocketsglare says:

    Agree. Auld’s role as a back up is to mentor and spell Price. His performance so far has been solid, given his current

    GAA and Sav%. Not bad for a netminder who has only played in 3 games this season.

    Go Habs Go!

  135. Da Hema says:

    It is good that Price wants to play every game. However, it is the coaching staff’s responsibility to make the decision for who will start based on the team’s needs. The team requires that a back-up goalie gets some playing time, even a veteran like Auld. It made sense to play Auld against the Leafs rather than Boston or Philadelphia. Even Martin Brodeur had the occasional night off.


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  136. samTHEman says:

    He did come up with a good retort. SmartDog and I both lol’d.

  137. RJB says:

    He’s big he’s bald he can’t be blamed for the team in front of him only scoring one goal

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  138. samTHEman says:

    Both play the Left Wing.

  139. avatar_58 says:

    So as I said before, Auld = loss. Why didn’t play him versus Detroit then? Concede the 2 points to the west, take the eastern points?

  140. lavie says:

    If I was JM I would resume AK-Pleky-Cammi line.

  141. OneTimer says:

    Now if only we could get Timo Timonized again order would be restored to the universe

  142. SeriousFan09 says:

    Because you shouldn’t concede points and you should always test your best against the best in the league.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  143. punkster says:

    After a couple of games like the last two it’s interesting to see how
    the camps divide on HI/O. There’s always an undercurrent of
    disappointment and even resentment around here and two back-to-back
    stinkers really bring out the best, and worst, in the camps.

    Camp 1 – The True Supporters

    • Totally dedicated Habs fans, willing to go through hell, fire and
      brimstone to cheer for the team, nothing phases them except posters who
      badmouth their favourite player or accuse them of not being a real fan then all hell breaks loose resulting in
      name-calling and verbal escalation until Boone steps in and revokes
      their right to be on-line jackasses.

    Camp 2 – The Constant Whiners

    • A select group of posters who have a permanent burr up their
      butts about the Habs, NHL salaries, officiating and GMs, the quality of
      the ice in foreign rinks and the price of popcorn in Pittsburgh…you
      name it they hate it and they’ll go one and on, day after day, week
      after week repeating the same whine over and over…well you get the

    Camp 3 – The Number Crunchers

    • It’s all about the stats with this bunch; S%, FOW, SOG, TOI, YAC,
      whatever, these guys have their fingers on the pulse of the league and
      their heads up their pages…when you argue with one of these
      folks you risk sounding like a dolt because thought a RFOL had some sort of humorous connotations.

    Camp 4 – The Doom and Gloomers

    • Nothing will ever be positive with these guys and a dark cloud
      permanently follows them around this site and, most likely, over their
      homes and businesses as well. The D always sucks, the forwards are
      midgets, management are confused old men, goaltenders have weak glove
      hands, coaches can’t coach, players can’t play and this team will never make the playoffs….again…just like they said last year.

    Camp 5 – The Know-It-Alls

    • Beware of this crowd. They’re lean, mean fighting machines who
      like nothing more than to get a rise out of some poor unsuspecting poster so they can showcase their excellent knowledge of the English language
      in their erudite discussions by using such words as “idiot”, “jerk” and
      a series of profanities which cannot be repeated in mixed company. They often insist they are in Camp 1, The True Supporters, but frankly it really doesn’t matter because Boone is going to ban their sorry butts in either case.

    I love this place.

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  144. lavie says:




    Reason: Pacioretty remains higher confidence and Gomez is a good passer.

  145. RJB says:

    But Auld does not equal loss, its the team in front of him. Auld has been stellar for the most part. Playing 3 games all year and putting up those numbers, nothing to complain about.

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  146. OneTimer says:

    Hehe nice post, I think Camps 2 and 4 mostly overlap though. :)

  147. aemarchand11 says:

    Pending Gomez’ return, i say return the top two lines from the 2009-2010 opener.

    Confident Pacioretty – Gomez – Gionta

    AK – Pleks – Cammy

    Darche – Eller – Pouliot

    Moen – Halpern – Lapierre.

    Go Habs Go!

  148. Da Hema says:

    Very clever.

    Fun to read.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  149. HabFanSince72 says:

    It was an odd interview. My impression was that he isn’t keen on playing for Martin again. When they asked him if he tried harder because JM was watching he said he didn’t know he was there ( unlikely) and then said something to the effect that lots of people come to watch us play.

  150. Barts says:

    Well, if anyone watched the Bulldogs game today, this is a no-brainer. The only unfortunate thing is, there was one player better than him on the ice and that was David Desharnais.

  151. HardHabits says:

    OK. I’ll grant that it was clever. I need to adjust the settings on my sense of humour. Lately can’t tell a joke from a personal vendetta.

  152. Barts says:

    Which camp are you in?

  153. HabFanSince72 says:

    The AHL is much slower than the NHL. I’m not saying Pacioretty or Desharnais won’t be good but I doubt they would replicate their production. At least not for a long time.

  154. sidhu says:

    Yes – could not agree more on the lines, though I wouldn’t mind replacing Lapierre with Pyatt.

  155. idle says:

    I wonder how much of this decision (if any) had to do with Fortier playing such a strong game.  Perhaps his recent move to the power play and top lines was a tryout to see if he can fit in with Pacioretty gone.

  156. DearyLeary says:

    I can live with that.  My preference would be that if we’re still in a top 3 slot at the trade deadline we go out and land a real right winger to play with gomer, and pacioretty can play with eller and benny.

  157. HardHabits says:

    Where do I fit in in all this?

  158. BJT says:

    Brilliant. But I think that you should add sub-categories, i.e. camp 1(A), camp 1(B), that sorta thing, because there are people like me that are in camp 1 but hardly ever post on here and would therefore be in camp 1(B). See? And then the  angry, vindictive whiners that are hardly on here would be in campt 2(B), and so forth.


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  159. Da Hema says:

    Oops HH. You just opened your five-hole! The shooters are coming!!


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  160. Bill says:

    It’s pretty broad. If I love the Habs but don’t like JM and frequently say both … does that make me a True Supporter or a Constant Whiner … am I a Whiny Supporter???

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  161. andrewberkshire says:

    The price of popcorn in Pittsburgh is absurd. No excuses for that! :)

  162. SmartDog says:

    Sometimes I imagine that someone who I think is slighting me actually is saying something nice. 

    Weirdly when I respond without taking it at all to heart they usually are nice back.  I think people mostly don’t mean to be mean… it’s just a lot easier to say “that’s stupid” than to explain why you think something is wrong. 

    And then there are the a-holes… but it’s pretty clear who they are.  LOL


  163. DearyLeary says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Benny on the right wing.  He’s got a great shot and the shooting angles are really good on the off wing.

  164. Da Hema says:

    Andrew: what the…? Did I miss something?


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  165. HardHabits says:

    I like Pyatt a lot but I get the feeling when he’s dressed it’s like he’s the 7th D, only with hands of stone.

  166. andrewberkshire says:

    Very astute observation.

  167. andrewberkshire says:

    I would value Pyatt’s PK work over anything Lapierre brings to the table personally. And I actually like Lapierre as a player.

  168. SmartDog says:

    Awesome Dave.

    A pretty good Taxonomy!  I think you need a couple more… but among these I’m a big chunk of 1, a healthy handful of of 3, and (depending on the topic) with sometimes a pinch of each of the others.


  169. andrewberkshire says:

    Just sarcasm, agreeing with Dave’s assertion that we’re all a bit absurd.

  170. Fred D says:

    I must say I am surprised that some people don’t yet know the difference physical fatigue and mental fatigue.(See some body on here that says “Don’t give me that fatigue crap”–Geez!)

    Secondly we lost the game last night because we came out flat. Nothing else to say and we don’t have to re invent the team.

    I hope PK recovers soon from his “sit down”, My feeling is that a “one size fits all correction” will not work with this young super star in the making. He is exceptional and should be treated in such a way as to  re-channel his energy and great talent, without knocking the chip off his shoulder.

  171. mrhabby says:

    P …lmao..were all a little nuts.

  172. SensFanSpezza says:

    I think Fortier’s performance had nothing to do with the call up of Max.  Before today, Fortier had one goal.  It’s great he had the hat trick today, but it’s one game.  Nobody makes personnel decisions based on one game. 

  173. andrewberkshire says:

    Really? I’ve seen personnel decisions made from a single shift, let alone a game.

  174. olematelot says:

    You’re wrong

  175. SmartDog says:


    1. You can’t blame Auld for last night’s loss.

    2. Subban doesn’t look the same.

    3. With Gomez in the line-up we would’ve won one of those games.  

    4. The Habs have enough scorers, there’s just not enough toughness on the team to play in the dirty areas and protect the smaller guys. (For example: would Breire be as good if not surrounded by Phili goons?)

    5. It’s perfectly okay for JM to play MaxPac on the 3rd line.


  176. habs365 says:

    Pacioretty will be fine till he makes that first mistake…than Boyd will have a buddy in the pressbox with him

  177. olematelot says:

    agree, anyone who says Auld has been terrible have absolutely no idea of what they’re talking about

  178. Ian Cobb says:

    Good post Fred, I watched the Bulldogs game today. Max Pac, Desharnese & Oliver Fortier #14 with the hat trick.

    What a great line. Anyway Martin was at the game and is bringing Max back to Mtl with him. Maybe he should bring the whole line, the way they are lighting up the AHL right now.

  179. olematelot says:

    Is they’re any such thing as a terrible goaltender in the NHL, just asking

  180. hab_skill says:

    1. False. It was his fault. Bad goals.

    2. True.

    3. True.

    4. False. They need more scorers.

    5. True. He’ll end up playing with Eller and Pyatt who aren’t really third line players. It woud be like a second  number two line. I would really like to see him play with Eller.

  181. andrewberkshire says:

    1) True

    2) True

    3) Debatable. Not a true or false question. Would we have had a better shot? Yes.

    4) False

    5) True

  182. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. True

    2. False, he’ll be fine. People are expecting Drew Doughty a bit too much.

    3. True

    4. False, they still need that big guy who will bang in the grease on the Top 6.

    5. True, if that line is Pouliot-Eller-Pacioretty


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  183. hab_skill says:

    I agree. Pyatt’s penalty killing is great.

  184. olematelot says:

    Third and forth lines are very important. All the top teams have good ones, in fact that is where the Habs have improved this season, the bottom 6 is much better than last season 

  185. Ian Cobb says:



    You never know!

    We are alright, status quo.

    Of course

  186. SensFanSpezza says:

    Like what?

  187. HardHabits says:

    1. False. Auld was weak early on and that set the tone for the rest of the game.

    2. True. I blame Don Cherry.

    3. True. Possibly both.

    4. Kind of a trick question there. The Habs have enough scorers = false. not enough toughness on the team to play in the dirty areas = true.

    5. True. I don’t think putting MaxPac there ahead of Pouliot is a good thing. Everything hinges on Gomez return though.

  188. andrewberkshire says:

    Oddly enough, Subban has been better offensively than Doughty this year. Doughty has really been struggling.

  189. andrewberkshire says:

    Like Kovalev starting a game with Spezza, and getting sent to the 4th line in a single shift. It happens. There’s a reason why Martin went to the game, he wanted to see if Pacioretty was putting up points because of Desharnais or if he was actually dominating, one game was enough to see that.

  190. Da Hema says:

    Nope. This isn’t the 1970s and 1980s when some goalies would let in unobstructed shots from the blueline. That was quite common then. The quality of the goaltending also goes a long way to explain why the goals per game in 1980 were 7.69, in 1981 8.03, in 1982 7.73, and to this point this year 5.59.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  191. showey47 says:


  192. newbrunswick troy says:

    i liked mike milbury,s comment on how its ok for the young showboater in Edmonton to be colorful…but not P,k…… 

    every week i lament having to watch the cbc and how openly biased they are to the leafs..Last night Cherry made no bones about it when he said the habs may have scored a goal but ” we are going to win it”,,,,its like the cbc is now the Toronto indipendant news orginization…and the rest of the country are all free loaders that are stealing the satellite feed…..

    ****i want my tax dollars back that go to support the CBC*****

  193. RJB says:

    Doughty got knocked around a bit a couple of months back, suffered a concussion and took awhile to get back. He may still be feeling it, who knows. The human brain is a crazy crazy thing

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  194. Bugs says:

    1. False. We can blame anyone we want.

    2. True. But of course, both of us are private detectives and had the inside edge piecin that together.

    3. More like the Priceberg, I think.

    4. Brière would be as good anywhere. So would Gretzky. And Crosby. And Claude Lemieux. And Max Lapierre. Players are players. I LOVE the idea of a checker playin scared. “Ok, buddy, you go out there and let Gretzky know you’re there, aw’ight?!”

    -“No, coach.”

    -“No??!! Whaddaya mean ‘no’?”

    -Semenko is out there and I’m scared he’ll be mad at me if I hit Gretzky and that’s scares me too much so I won’t hit Gretzky. Yeah, I know that’s my job and I’m professional and I,ve hit guys and been hit by guys all my life but Semenko is too much. Way too much, coach, and I’m scared.”

    Haw! Yeah, right. That’s funny. A player is a player wherever, whatever. Our “toughless” team got to the ECF and are top 5 in the League right now; no, I ain’t got problems with our “lack of toughness”. No, more scorers, man. Yeah, man. I know I said I was against Penner a while back but now…more I think about it…I mean, we’re not namin’m captain over here; we’re just gonna SLOT’m into position and that’s it…maybe I could go for it…aww, I dunno, maybe not…but yeah, definitely more scoring. More scoring gives us winning INSURANCE. Insurance is good.

    5. He’s a scorer; depends what mandate the 3rd line has. Real question is: does my boy stay up on the 2nd? Wasn’t too convincing to start but maybe give it another go, what.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  195. newbrunswick troy says:

    Oh by the way i think its great that Max is called up…the habs can really use a shake up…Gomez rested is probly  a good thing as well….

  196. andrewberkshire says:

    I agree, he’s definitely still a bit fuzzy. He’s a generational talent on defense.

  197. OneTimer says:

    Man is it just me or does WSH’s defense really suck? I mean more than last year…

  198. mrhabby says:

    1. agree

    2. subban looks okay…he is a rookie right..perspective.

    3. not likely.

    4. habs need more scorers.

    5..start him on 3rd line ..move him around ..see how he plays.

  199. RJB says:

    Agreed, just amazing to watch. And from my hometown!!

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  200. SeriousFan09 says:

    Clean out the bench staff and start over, should’ve done it a couple years ago.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  201. Exit716 says:

    Boudreau reminds me of a Jr. B coach with a super talented team that has zero structure or discipline. At some point Leonsis is going to tie the can to him.


  202. SensFanSpezza says:

    Kovalev’s a bad example.  He didn’t get demoted based on one shift, he got demoted based on a brutally inconsistent two seasons and Clouston had had enough.  Martin went to see the Dogs because he was in Toronto last night and took in the game today before heading back to Montreal.  It’s not like he made a special trip just to watch Pacioretty.  And what did he see anyway that would have convinced him Max is the man?  Desharnais set him up on the tip in, so that didn’t tell him Max can put up points without DD.   If they were looking for a call up based on that game, it would be Fortier.

  203. VancouverHab says:

    1. Correct: we were utter crap.

    2. Agreed: and that’s a good thing. It’s called “learning.”

    3. Plausibly.

    4. Disagree.

    5. JM’s the expert.


  204. VancouverHab says:

    Holy crap! That’s an instant classic (I know that’s on oxmoron ;–)

    I hope that this one stays around.

    PS: Do you want to put names into camps? Or will someone else do it…..

  205. king ddd says:

    i say, rebuld! rebuild! trade ov and backstorm for top picks! lol can we trade jacques martin for ovechkin. imo right now JM has more value than ov;)



  206. Chuck says:

    Sweet, Dave! You should start sliding names into each category. That way there would be and instant seating chart for dinner at next year’s summit.  :)

    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

    Think before you post. The internet is forever, and that’s a awfully long time to look like a knob.

  207. Mattyleg says:

    Heh heh, similar to my “Field Guide to HI/O Posters” of last season!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  208. Hagar says:

    Zero structure or disclpline? They won the Presidents Trophy last year (& not just barely either). We might have won our series against them but in case you weren’t paying attention, that was a hard fought series. We sure didn’t look like the better team for much of it. There were times when the Canadiens looked like they were holding on for dear life. These modern day Caps aren’t a dynasty. If their performance last year exemplifies no structure or discipline, then it’s a powerful argument for anarchy.

  209. punkster says:

    You’re right Mattyleg and I apologize if I tread on your territory. I had no intention of ripping off your fine work. Maybe you could dig it up and post it next to this one so we can share in the fun :)

  210. SmartDog says:

    We don’t always agree Ian, but tonight, I’m with you on these! 


  211. punkster says:

    1. False. You can blame him equally along with each and every other player on the ice. They stunk…stank?…stinked?…sucked!

    2. True. The nose job didn’t take. Back to the plastic surgeon.

    3. False. Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe or Richard couldn’t have dragged their sorry butts to victory last night.

    4. True. But they’re not small enough. You see if they were smaller they could skate under the opposition radar.

    5. True. And the first line and the second line and if he’s not careful the fourth line too. He’ll paly them all just wait and see.



  212. ctony says:

    Why don’t you like Boudreau?  He paid his dues as a player, won all the way up the coaching ranks and has a much better winning percentage as a NHL coach than JM.  Your a “prove it to me” guy. back up or statement or shut up.  btw, now that you made this unsubstantiated comment, anything else you post will be considered garbage and this will be thrown in your face as the reason.

    and, for the record, i agree he should be gone.

  213. showey47 says:

    IMHO its a similar issue boucher is having in tampa. They can score goals but their backend and goaltending is weak. I also think washington can’t play a shutdown game which will always hurt them in the playoffs. I don’t know if its more a coaching issue or not being given the right pieces to work with,maybe both. But i do think if boudreau has another early exit,he is probably done.

  214. Jonson says:

    guess i deserve that lol im just happy the last few years montreal’s management have targeted more north american players who have the heart to compete.

  215. scrowe21 says:

    Dammitt! I forgot about the Bulldogs game, just tuned in now and its 5-1 ..can anyone fill me in on who scored and anything else I missed?

  216. andrewberkshire says:

    Fortier has been dominant in front of the net, hat trick. Pacioretty with a goal and an assist, Desharnais with a couple assists, Carle with 3 I think.

  217. jennifer1984 says:

    Fortier has a hat trick, MaxPac has one…..

    I forget the other.


    Joey Crabbe for Toronto in the first.



    im trying to remember!!


  218. PeterD says:

    3 goals – Olivier Fortier

    1 goal – MaxPac

    Not sure of the other one…

  219. AndyF says:

    The Habs have to start figuring out how to mentor their rookies.  This can’t be happening again:



  220. SeriousFan09 says:

    Andrei Markov was meant to mentor him all season, as Robinson once mentored Chris Chelios. Habs couldn’t plan a contingency for an All-Star Defencemen to be out.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  221. SeriousFan09 says:

    Prospect D Morgan Ellis had a scrap last night.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  222. Jonson says:

    sorry samovich i didnt mean to offend you im not putting down russians i have nothing against them. its just when it comes to russian hockey players they just dont seem to care as much as other players. its prob because they dont grow up wanting to win a stanely cup. again i apologize

  223. Chuck says:

    I’m guessing that you’ve polled a bunch of Russian players to see how they feel about winning, right?

    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

  224. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    So you think growing up dreaming of winning the cup is something that only Canadians do?  get a clue.

  225. thebigguy says:

    Athletes are competitive people. I don’t think you have to had grown up on Coach’s Corner to want to win a Stanley Cup. Successful athletes like to win. It’s all they’ve been doing since their kids. It’s not as if they suddenly cross the ocean and immediately lose this desire.

    European players get a bad rap for a couple reasons, largely for reasons outside of their control. Obvious loud mouths like Cherry or Burke don’t help, but I do think it’s more complex than that. Many come over here with weak language skills and are forced to adopt to cultures, that while similar, are not without differences. The language/cultural barriers make it hard for them to express themselves. If Markov had a stronger command of the English language to allow him to assert himself more, do you not think he would have been made Captain last season. How many of us felt that A. Kotsitsyn had the physical attributes, but is weak b/w the ears? How much of that perception is painted by his lack of comfort during interviews?


  226. HabFanSince72 says:

    Datsyuk. Ovechkin. Malkin.


  227. scrowe21 says:

    thanks guys. How has Maxpac looked away from the puck? Is he playing aggressive? 

  228. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s aggressive but not foolish in how he plays. He lays big hits when he gets the chance but isn’t pulling himself out of position. He looks ready, but I’d like to see him stay in Hamilton as long as possible to get his confidence up.

  229. AndyF says:

    *How* could this happen?  How does it happen to a professional organization, run by professionals earning some serious coin?!!  ( A friend with a little inside knowledge once told me the Habs had a lot of dead wood in upper management.  I’m really starting to see how it could be true. )


  230. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hab’s Future Preview: Olivier Fortier will be the first bubble prospect to get a 3 Star Selection for Hab’s Future.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  231. SensFanSpezza says:

    I’m sure he’s giddy at the very thought.

  232. HabFanSince72 says:

    Even for an AHL game the CBC has to roll out the stupid.

    Commentator saying that someone should have jumped on Fortier for hitting the goalie’s pads.

    Turns out that commentator was Brad May. I guess he’s being groomed for HNIC.


  233. andrewberkshire says:

    I thought that was hilarious, how often is a player jumped for poking at a goalie’s pads? Maybe shoved away, but it rarely causes a fight. Ridiculous assertion by May.

  234. idle says:

    Apparently he should have been “engaged in a fight” and sitting in the box for 5 min instead of being on the ice for a goal.  In the post game he says “If I’m on that team the gloves are off and no one is safe”

    Nice to have a hockey game where no one is safe.  I bet he loved the attack in the KHL 6 seconds into the game.



  235. Mike Boone says:

    HNIC can never have enough former goons.

  236. Chuck says:

    With Martin in Hamilton for the game, there’s lots of speculation that Pacioretty was getting a look. Depending on the severity of the injury to Spacek, he might have more importantly be checking out which D-man could be ready to play some minutes in Montreal.


    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

  237. rocketsglare says:

    Maybe Carle or Henry?

    Go Habs Go!

  238. Jonson says:

    i meant north americans, it wasnt an insult, the nhl is played in north america so as a kid growing up its more of dream to win a stanely cup more than a kid growing up overseas.

  239. SeriousFan09 says:

    End of the day, it’s all about the desire to win in a game.

    I’d take Pavel Datsyuk over Joe Thornton any day of the week.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  240. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    most kids around the world who play hockey dream about the NHL and the cup.  europeans are very passionate about hockey. you been watching too many coach’s corner episodes.

  241. Jonson says:

    i know i stepped out of line, trust me i hate don cherry lol. there are a lot of russians in the nhl who i would love on our team. datsyuk is the perfect example. i didnt want to offend anybody. i guess its cause so many in montreal have disappointed me… Kovalev. by the way i find russian defenseman are usually really good.

  242. puck face says:

    north americans yes , that’s exactly the way it is with some execptions. give yourself a spanking for thinking otherwise.

  243. idle says:

    Does this mean that no North Americans grow up and dream of winning the championship in the English Premier League because we have the MLS?

  244. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    get a clue bigot.

  245. thebigguy says:

    I don’t disagree with you one bit but using Joe Thornton as your counter example isn’t realy the greatest choice. There are probablly about 30 players in the league I’d rather have than Joe Thornton, despite him being talented than probably all but 5 or 6 of them.



  246. SeriousFan09 says:

    Just saying, heartless and noncompetitive at the wrong time can be found on both sides of the Atlantic.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  247. thebigguy says:

    I was more pointing out that using the most extreme counter example isn’t the best debating tool. Hockey fans know of Joe Thornton as a choker. If there’s ever a hockey player that should be honoured by the Buffalo Bills as one of their own, it’s him.

  248. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d give it to Carle, very good skating, showed solid awareness with the puck but if he comes up b/c of Spacek being out for a while, Weber will have to be sent back down or Picard waived as he is waivers-eligible and could get picked off. Also, it’s hard to juggle 3 rookie defencemen and make it fair, good competition but maybe not the best for development.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  249. Number31 says:

    Conboy with good work in front of the net got credit for the other goal thanks to the Marlies putting it in their own net. Which was funny because the Marlies only goal was thanks to Russell’s reaching on the PK and putting it in his own as well.

  250. WestHab says:

    They may still be goons.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  251. usversusthem says:

    I agree completely. In my experience reading translated interviews on Yahoo! Sports’ Puck Daddy blog, the Russians tend to be, as a rule, much better interviews—more forthcoming, more insightful, more interesting—than their North American counterparts. Linguistically, they may be stunted in terms of what they can say to a reporter, but it’s their North American peers who are truly stunted—they’re using their native tongue and they still can’t come up with anything to say. 

    As for their desire to succeed—for a Russian to come over here, you figure, he’s a minority right away in the dressing room, linguistically, culturally, and in terms of how he was taught the game and how he plays. Are we surprised if he ends up not being on the exact same page as his North American team-mates? It’s naive to expect seamless integration. You end up with players like Kovalev, who are so much better than their teammates that they’re not even playing the same game. How do you expect Kovy to treat the game just like Chris Neil? He’s really a tragic case—all of his finesse—and even his physical capacity—is wasted in the North American game. There’s a guy who should be playing in the KHL, I think.

  252. thebigguy says:

    Interesting point and it got me thinking. If anything, the European players show more desire, especially the ones that play junior here. They leave their entire family structure, their friends and are in such a different time zone that even Skype is difficult. The sacrifices they make to get to the NHL is far greater than what most Canadians or Americans make.

    Screw all these NA lazy wannabes, I want me a team full of Euros with heart :)

  253. RJB says:

    It may be wishful thinking, but I like to think that the Habs victory over the Caps in the playoffs last year was the catalyst for this meltdown. 

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  254. rocketsglare says:

    Was thinking the same thing.

    Go Habs Go!

  255. Hagar says:

    PACIORETTY!!!!!!!!! So does he get his wish & get to play on the top 6 w/o the fear of a benching/scratching/demotion. I’m genuinely surprised he’s here. Maybe he apologized in private. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. With Gomez likely coming back soon, our D is definitely in the hurt locker more than our O.

  256. Les-Habitants says:


    G&G with Max-Pac?

    Eller and Pouliot continue to do their thing with Darche?

    Moen is finally moved to a line where he will be most effective: grinding and make life difficult for the opposing team alongside Halpern and Pyatt?

    One can only hope.

  257. Castor says:



    Gomez and Gio with Maxpac

    AK, Pleks and Cammy back together.

    Gomez and Deharnais are similar players so Maxpac should be right at home,

  258. king ddd says:

    sorry guys way off topic.. any one here a fan of the tv show dexter, season finale tonight cand wait!!!

  259. Chuck says:

    Dexter’s pretty good, but I prefer Breaking Bad.

    Centre Hice: Net result: Leafs cheating?

    Think before you post. The internet is forever, and that’s a awfully long time to look like a knob.

  260. VancouverHab says:

    Isn’t that amount of goriness and torture (and sympathetic portrayal of evil) a disturbing element on TV?

    (I ask seriously as a father of four children….)

  261. king ddd says:




  262. rocketsglare says:

    How long before Boudreau is fired?

    Go Habs Go!

  263. tippytoes says:

    Max Patch should stay in Hamilton a little longer, in my opinion. He’s finally starting to gain confidence and play like a real power forward that we all hoped that he would.  I was hoping for a call up after the all star game or some time in february.

    Everyone talks about  top six forward, but if you look back at some players and how they  developed you will notice that not  all played on a top line right away. It took time for them to secure a regular spot on the first or second line. For example, Guy Lafleur, Stephane Richer all played on the 4TH or 3Rd line before being a regular on the top two.


  264. Mattyleg says:

    I agree. Look at how much confidence Eller has built playing on the bottom lines.

    On the top two lines, there’s incredible pressure to perform, and it can kill your mind if you’re not doing well.

    On the bottom two, there’s room for mistakes and limited ice-time to get you into it slowly. Plus, there’s the idea that you have to be working non-stop on those ‘energy’ lines, so it gets you into the mindset of skating, skating, skating so that when you hit the top two, you’re flying.

    Anyone see the way Eller’s driving to the net now? I’m sure a few more goals will start to come his way. Really like the way he and Poolie are gelling and how their confidence is growing.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  265. Hagar says:

    I dunno if being a power forward in the AHL means a whole lot. Laraque was considered a power forward at that level. Tie Domi as well.

  266. Da Hema says:

    Unfortunately we cannot put the vio-porn genie back in the bottle. Parents today have to watch what their children are watching–at least at home.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  267. VancouverHab says:

    True enough it seems, alas.

  268. Aybara says:

    While there is an obscene amount of gore and torture in the show, that is not what it’s truly about. In my opinion Dexter is a story about the isolation people experience in modern society. It covers this theme of isolation and estrangement from the population at large in a number of story arcs throughout the series.

    That is not to say that this is a kids show.. Not at all. I wouldn’t let a kid under 18 watch it myself. But to say that this is a disturbing element of TV I would have to disagree. The show most definitely has disturbing scenes, it’s what you take from them that matters.

    edit: Just a note though, there are definitely people over 18 who will watch this show for all the wrong reasons and I suppose that in itself is disturbing.

  269. andrewberkshire says:

    Parents should worry about parenting and not television.

  270. MikeMcLaren says:

    Yeah, what he said!


  271. VancouverHab says:

    It’s not that hermetically simple.

    Extreme analogy–“worry about parenting and not guns.” Parenting is about trying to control (or more likely influence) your children’s behavior and also about trying to influence (control is impossible) the removal of noxious influences (drugs, predators, TV & movie filth, guns etc.) from the society in which your children live.

  272. Mr.Hazard says:


  273. Da Hema says:

    That is solid reasoning. That was a central reason why Lafleur, for example, was used sparingly during his first seasons–to shield him from the Hab mob so that he could develop into an overall great player. Pacioretty will be no Lafleur, but the pressure hasn`t changed for the young players in Montreal today. If Pacioretty doesn`t score immediately on one of the top lines, the very same posters who are insisting he is a top-six forward will turn on him as fast as a tornado.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  274. OneTimer says:

    “If Pacioretty doesn`t score immediately on one of the top lines, the
    very same posters who are insisting he is a top-six forward will turn on
    him as fast as a tornado.”

    That says more about the kind of Habs fans you’re talking about, then Pacioretty (or whoever) doesn’t it?

  275. scrowe21 says:

    Yeah I dont like this move. They should have tried Pouliot on the top lines for 5-7 games to see if he could find a place there before giving up and relying on Max who is just building his confidence and happy where he was. Pouliot couldnt have been any worse than Moen..

  276. Da Hema says:

    I guess there was a subtext there….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  277. OneTimer says:

    Tru say Hippo, if I may say that’s an odd choice of picture for a hockey website :)

  278. zak says:

    When your young in the JM system the pressure is not  making a mistake. He could end up riding the bench.

  279. Da Hema says:

    We hippos just need others to be patient with our hockey development.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  280. Duracell3 says:

    I think Eller will be fine, once he is stronger. It seems he gets outmuscled nearly every shift, but it certainly hasn’t stopped him from trying.

  281. Number31 says:

    Haha awesome. You know, I wonder why more players don’t try crazy stuff like this. Hell it’s hard to find players that would do what Little did to DiPietro yesterday.

  282. Everlasting1 says:

    Man, the Caps are falling apart. After tonight they will have dropped 5 of their last 6 games. Welcomed news around these parts.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais

    Nin Don’t pollute the water.

  283. Say Ash says:

    They’re gonna put Boudreau on a short leash (if you can get one around that neck)

  284. Da Hema says:

    It seems to me your additional good point to be extracted here is we all need to be reasonable in our expectations about Pacioretty, at least at this stage. Some posters were calling him a bust earlier this year, and now he is being touted by others to be a top-line scorer. We need to temper our expectations.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  285. Hagar says:

    Yes. Everyone needs to take a deep breath.

  286. Da Hema says:

    Are you Vikings normally so dispassionate, reflective, and utterly reasonable?


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  287. Hagar says:

    We’re not. I’m taking a break.

  288. punkster says:

    You guys crack me up.

  289. Hagar says:

    So we call up Desharnais only to send him back down & call up Pacioretty instead. 2 dollars to the person that can make sense of that for me.

  290. avatar_58 says:

    Desharnais I guess was an emergency callup, Pacioretty was examined by Martin early this afternoon versus the marlies. I’m guessing he was there to pick who he thought would help, whereas the Desharnais callup was just him picking a name off a list to fill the void.

    I guess this means Boyd is pretty much done here, if the waiver business already didn’t.

  291. Da Hema says:
    It sounds like you are posing a philosophical question.
    “At any street corner the feeling of absurdity can strike any man in the face. Albert Camus
    “The privilege of absurdity; to which no living creature is subject, but man only.Thomas Hobbes

    May I have the two dollars please?


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  292. avatar_58 says:

    I know many of you disagree, but I`m sorry – without that one or two
    fantastic saves that Halak or Price make – the team loses. The goalie
    MUST be able to go from one post to the other with great speed, track a
    puck from the blueline, assume bounces will happen and avoid over
    comitting to saves. Price has been doing this basically every single
    game. Auld is unable to, he is not built for teams that require steller


    As a result this team will live and die
    with Price. That`s the choice management made when they traded Halak and
    signed a career backup. So yes, pardon me, but I consider Auld an
    immediate loss. He cannot make the fantastic saves they need. Is this
    entirely his fault? Of course not, he can only do what he can do. However it’s reality. So personally I hope we get a different backup or else suffer every time he is sent in. The excuse that he doesn’t play very often is an interesting one, given that his mistakes were technical in nature and had little to do with rest or practice.


    So say what you want, but that’s how I see it. We can complain about Subban, Picard and Weber making mistakes in front of him, but remember they make the SAME mistakes in front of Price. It’s also going to be like this all year, they need time to develop. I fail to see how the team had any faith in Auld in the 2nd period, he should have been pulled to save the game. How can you have faith thinking every shot could be a goal?

  293. SeriousFan09 says:

    The team will on occasion, if they want to win, overcome troublesome goaltending, they can’t handle that it’s like I said last season and before that, you can’t overcome bad goaltending once in a while you don’t deserve to win. The Blackhawks won a Cup without knowing what nights Niemi would struggle with a beachball.

    Auld is a backup and no backup that the Habs could acquire would do much better with starts in every 10 games.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  294. Habnofear says:

    Auld should not be a Hab and throwing  1 million bucks  at him to play here was a joke!I’m sure he’s a good guy but  make him history.Send Pyatt down to Hamilton and recall Desarnais,Give Subban a shorter stick  and make a line of Max Pac ,Desarnais and Subban and give it a couple of games to gel…..

  295. light_n_tasty says:

    Just for the record, Price has a GAA of 1.96 and a SV% of .935.  Auld has a GAA of 2.01 and a SV % of .941.

    Like SF09 said, if this team can’t win because Auld let in 2 goals, then it doesn’t deserve to.  It’s impossible for Price, or any NHL starter, to play every game.  The team must be able to play in front of the backup.  And given Auld’s numbers, it wouldn’t make a difference if Roberto Luongo was our backup.  Auld’s numbers dictate that he should have a record better than 1-2, and he is providing everything we need from him.

    Also, it appears that Price plays best if he is not challenged for the #1 spot.  Given that, would it be advisable to bring in someone who’s capable of being a legit number 1?  Wouldn’t that risk undermining Carey’s confidence and his outstanding play which is the primary reason this team has had success this year?

  296. Psycho29 says:

    Auld is not the problem….The team scoring one goal vs the Leafs is the problem.

    In the 3 games Auld’s played, the Habs have 4 goals for and 6 against, He has faced 101 shots in those 3 games for a GAA of 2.01

    Nobody wins many games with an average of 1.3 goals for per game…

  297. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Don’t know what you’re smoking & don’t care. That was Auld’s 3rd start of the season so naturally he’s rusty. Show me another backup on any team that can do better. As for Halak, enough with that crap. He’s no longer here and the sooner you get over that the happier you’ll be.

  298. Duracell3 says:

    No lie, alex auld is not a great NHL goaltender, but you aren’t going to win many, if any, games only scoring one goal, especially pathetic when it’s against the laffs defense. And really, he only let in 2 goals (as bad as they were). They should be able to beat, or at least tie one of the worst teams only letting in 2 goals regardless.

  299. habs365 says:

    Oh no…avatar you had to use that name again

  300. avatar_58 says:

    I’m just stating how I feel. A very real weakness has been exposed, I noticed it over the last few games. Price HAS to be sharp or they lose. So minus Price and…….

  301. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs also need to get their scoring going, Price has to be sharp because often only one of the Top 6 units is effective and too much time spent in their own end defending against odd-man breaks from bad passing.

    It’s becoming well-known the Habs can’t put the scoring together to win it in the last 20 so all teams need to do is control the game for the first 40 and they win. That’s the weakness, lack of finish right now.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  302. HardHabits says:

    Not a fair example. The Hawks had two top 5 draft picks and a team deep up front and on the back end. Not an easy task in today’s NHL notwithstanding a few tanked seasons. The team to use as a yardstick to measure the lack of good goaltending are the Red Wings winning with Osgood. They proved that goaltending wasn’t everything.

    However look at a team like the Devils and you see where goaltending is a factor.

    The Habs system requires a good goaltender, at least one who isn’t cold stepping into a game, my big worry with Auld.

  303. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Red Wings have been pretty stacked over the last 15 years as well. The point is, it gets down to the same idea of a team not believing they can score to overcome bad goals means they defeat themselves. They must accept they will have bad goaltending now and then, but battle in spite of it.

    Once in a while, you’ve got to overcome the bad goals because you also have to know your No. 1 man might slump and you may need to get him out of a jam. Teams have to be ready to overcome bad goaltending regardless of who is in nets. Carey Price will have a stinker all game this season, it hasn’t happened yet but it will and the team has to be ready on that night to at least try and help him out.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  304. Duracell3 says:

    Hey now, WE HAVE 2 top 5 draft picks!

    Hammer and Price~!

    Kidding, kidding…


    Although, not kidding, I wouldn’t put too much faith in the Devil’s goaltending, they win games with or without Brodeur over the years, You don’t need a superstar goalie when he faces 20 shots from the outside and no odd man rushes.

  305. HardHabits says:

    3. Don’t forget Pouliot.

  306. Duracell3 says:

    I didn’t even realize that, wow.


    Speaking of which, he has to be one of the highest scoring players playing on a 3rd line in the leauge right now.

  307. VancouverHab says:

    Wonderfully put!

    I would say that the reason ‘The Harness” was sent back was because the coaches saw the physicality of the TO game and our impotency in the face of it and decided MaxPac is the better fit right now.

    They’re my two dollars now ;–)

  308. Hagar says:

    Not bad, lol. If you’re ever in Calgary let me know. You can collect your 2 bucks.

  309. Da Hema says:

    What Hagar was asking is principally existential in nature. Therefore I believe I should be the recipient of the two dollars.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  310. VancouverHab says:

    That’s a good utilitarian response…

  311. Da Hema says:

    How dare you, sir or madam! As a hippo, I am compelled to be a deontological liberal!!

    Utilitarian? Poppycock!!


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  312. VancouverHab says:

    Whoa! Never cross swords with a metaphysical water horse!

    Only on H-I/O…..

  313. SeriousFan09 says:

    Only thing that appears more ridiculous than your avatar is your idea.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  314. Da Hema says:

    But for sheer bone-chilling creepiness, nothing will beat what xtrahabsfan (under a different name) posted as an avatar before he was Timonised….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  315. saskhabfan says:

    Do you do alot of acid or something?




    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  316. HardHabits says:

    Xtrahabsfan is back!!!

  317. Habnofear says:

    If I did  I wouldn’t remember the Habs last won a cup 19 YEARS AGO…

  318. Da Hema says:

    I think you are right there HH. 47 minutes as a member.

    At least he replaced that deeply-disturbed psychopathic avatar.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  319. Da Hema says:

    Oh yes. You are xtrahabsfan.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  320. habs365 says:

    How long have you being on LSD

  321. Psycho29 says:

    Hey it’s XTRAHABSFAN under a new name…..Welcome back…..nice to see nothing has changed…

  322. saskhabfan says:

    I guess you also forgot you made a bet which you lost and have been banned twice since.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  323. olematelot says:

    I don’t believe what my eyes just read

  324. saskhabfan says:

    Easily the worlds dumbest troll. At least tony/observer etc… was smart enough to change his profile name and location in his settings. This guy just keeps using the same one over an over again. It reminds me of one time we got a call when a Dairy Queen was robbed during the winter. We just followed the guys footsteps in the snow to his house which was about 3 buildings down the street and arrested him.




    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  325. Da Hema says:

    That robber definitely was a dense one!


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  326. light_n_tasty says:

    Haha!  The funny thing is, I remember you making a post last year where you said that the Habs last cup was in ’86, and when I reminded you that it was ’93, your excuse was how could you be expected to remember that when you were high for most of the ’90s.


    Just for the record, I like Xtra and think it is ridiculous that you were banned.  So you’re a shite disturber.  So what. 

  327. Da Hema says:

    But c’mon. Those avatars of his revealed a very disturbed mind lurking around this site–the kind of visions, say, people like Jeffery Dahmer probably see.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  328. Habnofear says:

    Out of all the cups I’ve seen 93 was not one of them.I suffered alot of personal tragedity(If you must know ,one of my children were sexualy molested by the Ex’s boyfriend when she was 5 years old), followed by A LOT OF MEDICATION and uncertaincy…so no win for me in 93 period!

  329. Habnofear says:

    Got banned twice and for what ,flatlander? Man some of you here are Ko Ko for CoCo puffs!

  330. Habnofear says:

    Dude ,I didn’t get banned as far as I know and IF I DID it would be because of a lil fabercating RAT on this site complaining about my thought’s on Hab matters while they had none an were clueless as to what a Habs fan blog site was for…. And for the record light _n_tasty is one of the good hombre’s on this site and someone for you other so called fans to measure up too!

  331. avatar_58 says:

    Hahaha…you have to admit it’s a funny answer

  332. Da Hema says:

    You are clearly conceding you are xtrahabsfan.

    What are we to make of this admission of yours?

    You have to admit that others can reasonably conclude you are a professional liar. Remember our exchange when you began to regret the bet you made to leave this site? Remember when I said you were no different from a politician because you would not honour your commitment? In other words, you are a liar.

    I think you are both mocking and trivialising a most serious problem–child molestation.

    And you wonder why your account gets deleted?


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  333. Habnofear says:

    De Hema,SHAME  ON YOU! You are one cold and lonely piece of work! Mocking and trivialising …YOUR A JOKE ..YOU HEAR ME !

  334. Da Hema says:

    Can you blame me or others?

    Credibility is not a boomerang. Once gone, it does not return. I tried to get you to see months ago that lying has its consequences.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  335. light_n_tasty says:

    I don’t remember it, must’ve missed it.  I kinda miss the cat with the attitude.

  336. VancouverHab says:

    Timon? The Athenean misandrist mentioned by Swift? Or the Sceptic ?

  337. Da Hema says:

    Heheh. Neither! It was Timon from “The Lion King.”

    What’s this misandrist and sceptic stuff? Are you a smarty pants?



    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  338. VancouverHab says:

    I’ve never seen “Lion King” (but read my Swift when I were a lad ;–)

  339. saskhabfan says:

    Interesting to see how this will play out. I say put in with the gomez and gionta and see what happens. No matter what leave maxpac on the top 6 and let him learn from his mistakes. Its the only way he is going to learn the nhl game and gain confidence in himself. Guys like moen and laps got over extended tryouts in that spot,maxpac should get the same oppurtunity.




    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  340. rhino514 says:


    Does anyone have a breakdown of Kostitsyn´s career stats on right wing as opposed to left wing? He´s played both but is a left handed shot. The habs actually only have Gionta and Lapierre (who is a natural centre) as right-wingers/right handed shots. Not sure Kost is a good fit on the right wing but there really isn´t another option. I think Pouliot would do well on the Pleks line, maybe even explode there, but he is the glue that keeps the Habs third line together, their most consistent. I don´t think Eller and Darche would generate nearly as much without him and they would once again become a 2 line team. Habs are actually on the verge of having 3 decent scoring lines if JM can fit the pieces together. Still believe the team needs a puck moving defenseman with poise far more than they need a top six forward. Picard and spacek as the second PP wave doesn´t exactly strike fear in the opponent´s eyes.

  341. DearyLeary says:

    If Patches plays with Gomez and Gionta, I can only hope the GPG (goal per game) line becomes a reality.

  342. howtathor says:

    What’s the over/under on how many games it will take for JM to shatter MaxPac’s confidence?

  343. habs365 says:

    If PG was smart he would have brought up Pacioretty and Desharnais for the 2nd line with Cammy…maybe it would send a message to the team…they can be replaced by the Bulldog players…maybe I’m a little behind time…20 years ago they would have done it…….

  344. Bugs says:

    The same amount of games it took for him to shatter Spezza’s and Hossa’s and Chara’s confidence?

    Oh, waitaminnit…

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  345. habsfansince91 says:

    Leblanc scores in an intra squad game

  346. oldrrty says:

    I dont know if anyone else heard the commentators on the cbc’s coverage of the bulldogs and marlies game today but they were saying that montreal would probably only call up patches if they were not going to send him back down again. Now what happens if he keeps the same tear up that is going on down in the ahl up in the big leagues? What do they do with Gomex then?


    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  347. vaya_ says:

    patches isn’t a center, so you’d think that another winger will sit when gomez is ready to re-enter the lineup.

  348. Duracell3 says:

    It’s almost assured he’s scored more at left wing just because the majority of his scroing came when Kovalev was on the right.  That said, it shouldn’t be that big of a idfference.

  349. Da Hema says:


    Nice back-hand return!


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  350. Harani says:

    This happened in the Minnesota-Anaheim game today and I don’t think this has ever happened before. Bobby Ryan scores with Mikko Koivu’s stick in a bizarre sequence of events. Check it out!

    “It must be love!”

  351. Les-Habitants says:

    As the post below me says, Max-Pac isn’t a center.  It does create competition for the forward spot, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Pyatt pushed out.

    Potential lines?  Well, sure…but only because you asked so nicely.

    AK46 – Plek – Cammy

    Max-Pac – Gomez – Gio

    Pouliot – Eller – Darche

    Moen – Halpern – Lapierre

    If Gomez isn’t in, they’ll likely keep Halpern up to the 2nd line, have re-insert Pyatt

  352. habaholic68NJ says:

    JM. Want to win your next game?  Try this.





    I have been calling for this line-up for over a month now.  Do it.



  353. avatar_58 says:

    Hahahaha that’s excellent

  354. habs365 says:

    Through no fault of Auld did the Habs lose…they loss as usual when the first line don’t score…I don’t know why you people don’t see that…a one line team will very seldom play better than 500 hockey…like I said many times before…if they don’t put together a 2nd line to compliment the 1st line…a couple of mini slumps could put this team out of the playoff race…don’t blame the goalies…they are as good as the team in front of them…if you remember the last game price won…he said the team played great in front of him…that’s what happened last night Auld had no team in front of him…….

  355. habs365 says:

    habaholic…good luck with that one…martin listens to martin

  356. habaholic68NJ says:

    Maybe if he sleeps on it.

  357. Harani says:

    Finally changed my avatar folks!

    “It must be love!”

  358. DavidKB says:

    Sounds a little preachy.

  359. BKAK72 says:

    I like it.


    — I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! —

  360. shootdapuck says:

    Don’t you think that Auld was out of position the first if not both goals?

    Sure looked like it, he was off the post the first and was cheating to the right and gave Kaberle half the left side of the net on the second.



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3”

  361. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hab’s Future done… it will be up whenever Boone feels like it tommorow.

    A prospect was voted off the island and another was invited on.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  362. TomNickle says:

    Twelve forwards on a team and you blame three for a loss and management for not having what you feel is an adequate compliment to them.  It’s easy to blame a 4-2 loss on a lack of scoring and I can just as easily and more rationally say that those top three players you’re referring to playing as well as they have defensively to this point in the season has resulted in eighteen wins through thirty games.

    Bottom line, if you give up three goals in regulation time you shouldn’t expect a regulation win and if you don’t score three yourself you shouldn’t expect it either.

    All that said, Price starting Saturday night very likely would have been a shutout win for the Habs.

  363. Timo says:

    No love for Cammi anymore?

  364. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    It’s a good one. I really need to change mine – it’s been like this for over 7-8 months…I think.

    I really like how several posters here haven’t changed their avatars. It’s become their identity.

  365. Timo says:

    Well… based on everything I have seen from Martin, even if Max Pac scores in every single game he still goes back… Gomez will be in the lineup no matter what… now matter who needs to sit. Combined with the fact that Max is a rookie, his chances of sticking around are next to nil. Besides, we don’;t like flashy rookies with talent up here. They generate too much excitement… can’t have that.

  366. HardHabits says:

    It’s called getting Gomez back.

  367. Duracell3 says:

    Shobud, it seems not even Oiler fans know much about Omark, there is much more to come, when I heard he did something, I thought it was this again:


  368. Timo says:

    I’ve gone through a radical avatar change last year… it’s a process… you need to learn to cope with it but eventually you get through. 

  369. W35T5ID3 says:

    Is that legal?

  370. Duracell3 says:

    Our first line definatly scored. I’m sorry but any line Pleks is on has been the #1 line of this team for a few years now.


    Right about most everything else though.

  371. avatar_58 says:

    I think the shootout is a gimmick so I say good on the kid for making a mockery of it. If there’s no rule, go for it.

  372. avatar_58 says:

    The guy who purposely moved the stick to get in the way of the play should have been penalized, especially since someone could have tripped over it.

  373. avatar_58 says:

    Was this ever a question? I don’t get why anyone assumes the gomez, or whoever takes his place, line is the #1. It never was and never will be. The #1 offensive threat is the Plekanec line.

  374. Duracell3 says:

    Assuming Gomez is healthy…although i assume he will be after this break.

  375. rocketsglare says:

    Just finished watching SNF and the Cowboys D could’t stop spit when it mattered most. That 3-4 formation is a fraud

    and should be junked next year.


  376. Duracell3 says:

    I had my stick broken by someone once and ripped the offending players stick out of his hands and used it once in junior…didn’t score though, and I got a penalty, I think they ended up calling interference actually.


    More impressively though, Ryan shoots right…Mikkoshoots left lol.


    Would have made it even better had it been saku though lol

  377. Mattyleg says:

    Ha! I did that too!

    Broke my stick and the puck popped free, I kicked it ahead, and as I was chasing it, their d-man started hooking me, so I hauled the stick out of his hands, got a shot on goal, then promptly got a penalty for slashing the other d-man. I skated to their bench first, and the linesmen thought I was going to start something, but I just handed the guy his stick back and skated to the box.

    The refs were perplexed, and I didn’t get a penalty! (a second penalty)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  378. Mattyleg says:

    I love the idea that hockey players are like orchids. Look at them the wrong way, and their confidence flutters off like delicate petals…

    Because all through juniors you NEVER have your confidence challenged or hurt.


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  379. Mattyleg says:

    This is frikkin’ sweet!!

    From Yahoo:

    D Michael Del Zotto was back in the lineup Saturday after being a
    healthy scratch for the first time in two NHL seasons Thursday in
    Ottawa. According to The Record (N.J.), Del Zotto was given a homework
    assignment by the coaching staff to dissect the Rangers’ power-play unit
    and describe his expected role as its quarterback. He handed in a
    four-page report, single-spaced, front and back.
    “It’s been a little while since I had homework,” Del Zotto said.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  380. Habnofear says:

    They should trade him back to Calgary for Bomiester (spelling?)

  381. W35T5ID3 says:

       um….ahhhhemmm….this is the habs site.No NFL talk here cowboy.Yeehaw!

  382. mbplekfan says:

    JM was at the Hamilton game today, and I’m guessing it was to scout MaxPac. The guy is tearing it up in the A and the coach probably needed a looksie to assess his fundamentals and determine whether Desharnais was making him look good or if he was for real. I guess we know the answer.

    The habs are not looking for a short term full here or showcase him for a trade. This callup is for real and is to address the need for more big forwards who can shoot the puck.

    The lack of size is definitely an issue with the big club and another big winger beefs up our forwards and moves a guy like Pyatt down a notch on the depth chart.  My guess is Gomez isnt out too long and Martin is looking to put a shooter with size on his line to drive the net and take the passes. Gionta is a good winger but that line needs a physical presence and MaxPac can provide that.

    I think that Lapierre can count his days with the habs on his fingers right now. He never developed his offense and he really doesnt add much defensively that cant be replaced. That being said he could still draw some interest on the trade market while we shop for a defenseman. Packaging him with Weber and a pick could land a serviceable top four guy who can move the puck and provide toughness. I still like Regehr in Calgary, but other teams need to dump salary after xmas.

  383. Da Hema says:

    Interesting observations. Still, though, if you believe that what Lapierre offers as a player can be easily replaced (that is, he is not offering much at all), why would any other team be interested in him? How can Lapierre be replaceable as a player and yet have something sufficiently distinctive about him as a player to interest another team to trade for him?

    Sorry, but I fail to see the logic here.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  384. Everlasting1 says:

    How degrading.

    Page 1. Find open lane.

    Page 2. Fire puck at net (hope for best)

    Page 3. Keep puck inside the blue line.

    Page 4. Don’t get caught out of position for that open ice pass to the player coming out of the box.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  385. rocketsglare says:

    Hey buckaroo, it’s called free speech. LOL.

    Go Habs Go!

  386. mbplekfan says:

    Teams that currently have little to no hope of making the playoffs still need players who can eat minutes without being a liability. The habs are looking to advance in the playoffs, a team like Calgary is looking at a draft pick.

    Lapierre doesnt add enough at his position to win the Stanley Cup but he is an adequate third line center for a poor team and he is cheap.

    He is restricted, durable, and competent, add that together with his salary and he can be an attractive option for a non playoff team.

  387. Philly-Poo says:

    Did you see the replay from the Jets/Dolphins game, Dolphin’s player getting tripped by an undressed Jets player?  Cheap shit…

  388. Philly-Poo says:

    He was… BUT… He was also the first to admit that he was a little rusty to start, and, as the game wore on, he got more comfortable…

  389. Da Hema says:

    I agree he is a human being who can skate, and to that extent, given the right circumstances (e.g., a team that desperately needs a human being who can skate), they might be able to trade him. But I really doubt the Habs would secure a top four defenceman by dangling Lapierre in front of them. It would be either juicy draft picks or other Habs, more valuable and less easily replaceable ones, who we would need to give up to get such a defenceman. I am not trying to be too harsh on Lapierre, but one could probably find a better player than him by simply hoping on a plane and scouting the AHL or European leagues for a week.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  390. Philly-Poo says:

    The best part of it all was how Ryan held up the stick in triumph and mockery after he scored….

  391. Philly-Poo says:

    Lol, zing…

    The whole other side to the Lapierre coin is that he’s a French Canadian, no, pardon me, a Quebecer, on a team devoid of Quebecers, in the province of Quebec.  Like him or not, he’s an icon right now to the French population of Quebec .  He’s on ads, and the French talking-heads love to bring him up, and put him on a podium that he does not deserve to be on…

  392. Da Hema says:

    My intention was not to mock or make fun of mbplekfan. It is just that trading is difficult, and Lapierre’s one value (as you note, as a french-Canadian icon) is not transferable elsewhere. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, he has no trade value as such.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  393. Richrebellion says:

    That doesn’t change the fact that he let in 2 goals on 5 shots. I get that hes rusty and its hard to blame the guy since he never sees game time. However, in the habs system scoring the first goal is crucial as you force them to play catch up and capitalize on their mistakes. Hockey is a game of momentum and when the habs have it they’re very hard to beat, they can come back but Auld deflated the habs quick with those goals and it wasn’t until the third that they were able to get back on track but it was too late then. Bottom line Price makes those saves and habs win. 

  394. avatar_58 says:

    Bleh…wanted to screw around in NHL11 with the AHL but discovered the latest roster removed many of hamilton’s players. Engqvist, Avtsin, Nash, etc all missing. Well then…what’s the point?

  395. Hagar says:

    Da Hema. Below you said credibility is not like boomerang. That’s a cheap rhetorical trick you used to illustrate your point & not utterly reasonable. Rhetoric is employed by people who are either dumb, lazy, or both. Let’s not kid ourselves.

  396. mbplekfan says:

    You arent completing the equation. Lapierre by himself is not much. Lapierre with Yannic Weber provides two roster players who can log minutes on a nightly basis. Weber may even develop into a good defenceman. When you package those two with a pick like a second rounder, the three pieces are a nice roster filler at a low price. If the player coming back had a higher salary the cap space could be welcomed by the receiving team. So 2 roster players + 2nd rounder + cap space= ??????

  397. Da Hema says:

    Hagar: I am not sure I understand. What is the problem?


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  398. Philly-Poo says:

    the zing wasn’t for that, it was for your burn on Lapierre 😛

    I dont think either of you have written anything offensive.  You are both just presenting your side to the situation as far as I’m concerned 😛

  399. Philly-Poo says:

    Cant argue with you there, lol 😛

    I really worry that we do need the first goal, as you said, to then capitalize on the opponents mistakes.  I really worry at our inability, for whatever reasons, to come back in a game though, and, to put it mildly, is what seperates the winners from the losers…

  400. Da Hema says:

    I agree with you that circumstances could arise for a team needing to deal with the salary cap. Other than Boston–which just dealt with its cap problem–I am unaware of a team in a similar situation that has a good defenceman available. Perhaps you and other posters can draw this out for discussion. I still don’t think Lapierre would be much to offer. I also believe the Habs should make a commitment to develop defencemen like Weber. He looks promising to me.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  401. Hagar says:

    There’s no problem hippo. Just felt like complaining. As you were.

  402. weightman25 says:

    lol thats awesome

  403. weightman25 says:

    but he did it so discretely, kind of sly, i liked it lol

  404. Bob_Sacamano says:

    AK 46 is a better player on the right. Just think about the start of the season: 10 points in 9 games, last year in  december the same: 20 points in 20 games with Cammy on the left and Pleks at centre. Why anyone would think he is better at LW is totally beyond me.

  405. Habnofear says:

    De Hemroida,I have just learned today how shallow you are so at this point you as well being a hater of Francophones would not be far fectched!

  406. andrewberkshire says:

    Comments like this is why you keep getting banned.

  407. Da Hema says:

    I am not sure why I should respond to such nonsense, especially from someone like you xtrahabsfan, but I will.

    First, this attack on me comes from a man who has been repeatedly purged by the administrators of this site. And I suspect you will be expunged again.

    Second, your avatars are something that could only come from the mind of someone like Freddie Krueger.

    Third, you are a liar. You made a public commitment you would leave this site if Price met a win target by a specified period. You were called on this by many posters, including me. You insisted you were an “honourable” man, and yet when I responded that honourable men live by their words you laughed at me. Now you are upset because I am pointing out that you have no credibility–and you call me “shallow.”

    If you truly believe anything I wrote above is offensive to french-Canadians or to Quebecois(e) then you report me to Dave Stubbs and he can decide whether or not I should remain on this site.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  408. Da Hema says:

    I see you changed your avatar–no doubt because of my Freddie Krueger comment below. You must think all of us are fools here on this site.

    The most appropriate avatar for you would be one of Richard M. Nixon. He too was a professional liar.

    Have you reported me yet for my “bigotry?”


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  409. The Cat says:

    Lapierre doesnt add much? I dont know, he was one of the key players in last years playoff run.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  410. habs365 says:

    lets put it this way…they were not good goals…at the same time…if that had a been Detroit playing the leafs…they would have gotten those two goals back…thats the difference…especially 10:35 of the first period…they still had two and a half periods to play…if you want to blame Auld…go for it…it’s still a team thing…what us fans don’t seem to grasp…this team have very little scoring and if they don’t get off to a good start…it can go either way…gotta have more reliable scoring…other elements of the team is pretty good…we’re up there with the rest of the league…some areas we are better than most teams…scoring is our downfall…until we correct that…not looking good for a stanley cup run………

  411. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    Remember that at least a third, maybe more, of the teams in this league works on a cap under the stated league cap.  Gotta factor that in too.  They want players who may keep them in some games at a bargain bin price.  Come later in the season they may have higher priced/more talented players who they’d move for something like a Laps/Weber combo deal.

  412. sCOTT1243 says:

    Couple comments:

    1)  Hate, Hate hate losing to the leafs…why do we have trouble with that disaster of a team.

    2)  Max Pac, never impressed me when he was up with the habs…not tough enough, seemed tentative with the puck.  Maybe a second chance will finally get him going but hope he can bring his AHL play up to the NHL.

    3)  Why didnt they play Desharnais on Saturday?  Why play Weber a Defenseman on forward when you have Desh waiting in the wings.  I dont get Jaques decisions sometimes.


  413. DD says:

    Actually with the injury to Spacek, Martin’s “decision” to play Weber, turned out to be pure genius, even if we lost.

  414. Ian Cobb says:

    OHL news!

    Brother of PK,  Malcolm Subban, 16 year old goal tender for the OHL Belleville Bulls stopped 40 shots and all shooters in a shoot out, to win 2 to 1.

    Lots of confidence there.!

  415. Ian Cobb says:

    Max Pac is up for good with us or will be traded. 

    He will never see the AHL again.!

    Lets see if Martin lets him be creative out there, or will he force Max into an uncomfortable playing situation for him.


  416. habs365 says:

    wouldn’t have mattered who was in the net…when a team plays the first period Dopey or Stupid which ever way you want to put it…you’re gonna pay..if you watched the game…that’s what happened…by the time they woke up the game was over…I believe they used the word tired…I won’t even go there…..

  417. SeriousFan09 says:

    Also I’d add, who is No. 1 capable that wants sit behind Carey Price? Corey Schneider must be going crazy out in VAN waiting for Vigneault to give him a start while Luongo plays almost all the games. No. 1 goalies want to play and they do mind sitting, it wouldn’t work.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  418. HardHabits says:

    It’s more than that, if Auld doesn’t let in those 2 early weak goals the whole game is different. It affords the Habs the chance to score 1st. Instead they played catch-up all night.

  419. light_n_tasty says:

    I’ll have to defer to you on that point, because I didn’t watch the game on Saturday.  I agree that weak goals can be deflating.

  420. Duracell3 says:

    If you are saying there are no teams with better #2 goalies, you are outrageously mistaken.

  421. showey47 says:

    I would say boston is probably in the best position when it comes to a back up. Probably the only team that can lose their starter to a long term injury and not really effect the team. Though there are probably some other teams with some real good options also.

  422. avatar_58 says:

    I believe teams need 2 good goalies, yes. I enjoyed having Halak and Price. I have never enjoyed the years with ONE starter and a gimp. I hated Abeischer and I feel like we’ve gone back to those days again. That’s what I’m trying to say.


  423. avatar_58 says:

    I’m dead curious as to PG’s plan if Carey did get inured. There’s no way in HELL Auld is going to help them. Which leaves…..Sanford? One of the rookies?


    Oi vey…

  424. andrewberkshire says:

    How many NHL teams have a contingency plan for their #1 goalie being injured? It’s not the norm, stop fretting over nothing.

  425. Aybara says:

    I would say it’s because if you try the crap from the first post and it works you’re being cheeky.. If it doesn’t work, you’re just a complete douche.

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