Coaches took the young defenceman to task at Tuesday morning practice in Brossard.
Randy Ladouceur urged Subban to “wake the (f-word) up!”
P.K. took it the right way: “You can’t be messing up drills. That’s hockey. It’s not a big deal.”
AUDIO after practice: Randy Cunneyworth | P.K. Subban | Carey Price | Tomas Kaberle
P.K. on whether hockey is enjoyable for him these days:”I’m always having fun, man. Sometimes I have too much fun and it gets me into trouble.”
Carey Price on Tim Thomas: “It’s bold and good on him. He’s standing up for something he believes in, I guess.”
If Price were on a Stanley Cup winner, would he meet Stephen Harper?
“I’d be there with bells on. But that’s just me. Everyone has their own opinions.”
Tetteri Nokelainen and Travis Moen are doubtful for Wednesday’s game against the scary Red Wings.
Ryan White still isn’t ready.
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Maybe PK and others are confused about what country they live in.
Generally Canadians appear to be obsessed about what stands out as the current ‘ cause celebre ‘ or ‘ political fashion ‘ in the US. If you like to think and talk like an American then move south of the border – like I did 35 years ago.
Otherwise don’t make a fool of yourself.
Hey HIO:
Leave PK alone. Stop sensationalizing everything he does; you are responsible for the mess he’s in. Like he said, this goes on with everyone — veterans, rookies. Stop singling him out and causing a fuss in the name of NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO WRITE ABOUT. You’re journalists? Get creative for God’s sake, stop bringing our players down and exposing them on the smallest, pettiest thing.
i like anything that stirs up the system and gets peoples`panties in a bunch over being ‘offended’. he used the ridiculously sensationalistic media to amplify his opinions:
“I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, th…reatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government” TT
and whether you agree with his politics or not, his method was punk. good thing there are no laws where we live prohibiting a good public snub. (in some countries throwing shoes at a president will get you 3 years in prison, 9 months for good behaviour)
chara = חרה
The Cup is ours – Engqvist called up to the big team!
Plan the parade route!
You go Timmy Thomas! A man with principles. He was the only American on the Bruins. The rest were mostly Canadians who basically don’t know or care about politics enough one way or another in either country. For them it may has well have been Disney World.
I don’t understand why people keep saying this. Joe Corvo was born in Oak Park IL, Steve Kampfer was born in Ann Arbor MI.
The inaccuracies concerning the national composition of the Bruins is the least problematic element of this post. The Canadians on the Bruins “don’t know or care about politics in either country?” I can only presume this poster is American, because only an ignorant, ill-informed American would make such a claim.
Is this poster aware that only about 40% of Americans actually vote now? This is the lowest voter turnout rate amongst all the advanced democracies in the entire world. Whatever the cause of this, it is consistent with a nation of people who view indolence, ignorance, and indifference as public virtues.
Petits pas!
Da Hema being ignorant or ill informed isn’t exclusive to one country or people. I’m a Canadian living in the US. There are plenty of good people here. There are also plenty of idiots. The same is true back home and everywhere else. The political machines down here do their best to confuse and scare people into voting this way or that. Many people don’t vote because they don’t like any of the choices and don’t think it will make a difference. I don’t agree with them. But having seen some of the choices I do understand. As far as Thomas is concerned… it’s a free country. Do I agree with turning it into a political statement? No but it’s his right.
Were those 2 players on the roster for game 7 against Vancouver?
Thats the way the cookie crumbles
Principles my butt he didn’t go because he’s a republican. He should have gone for his team mates if nothing else. No class whatsoever.
Last chance to see Barry as president.
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When PK says its not a big deal to be yelled at in practice I am thinking he should be growing up and learning to optimise his time in practices by paying attention.
And I think he should start optimising his presence on the ice by lowering the motivation of his opponents by zipping his lip and just playing better.
The more he yaps, the more he makes the other guy want to beat him.
He gets more hits on him which tire, and that extra effort against him which is more than compensating for the irritation factor and the odd penalty he draws.
On this team and in this year, since the Habs can’t score and penalise the offending team, trying to draw extra penalties like that is a waste of time.
see my blog at http://noroomatthedump.blogspot.com/
The season is over. My (French) sports barber confirmed it today.
So, honestly… doesn’t drafting 3rd or 4th sound pretty awesome? Players that go that high are usually real impact players, some are NHL ready within a year. C’mon… you don’t have to WANT to tank to love it. But despite the best attempts of many (some of whom should be fired because if this is their best…), we’ve tanked, we might as well enjoy the benefits.
I’d love to see this team win some tough games to build a little confidence and validate some of what Randy’s been doing. But drafting high, that’s sounding sweet! Lots of future in this team if they build on their strengths today…. this is a YOUNG team with players who WILL get better. That’s a difference from previous years of suckstinction.
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I’d prefer 1st or 2nd.
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Now you’re just dreamin! We should be so lucky to suck THAT bad!
I know it’s impressive that we’re hanging in there with the Islanders, but there’s no way we catch the Blue Jackets and the Oilers. Those teams have sucking down to a freakin’ art!
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We could win the lottery though
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Hey Clay,
Can you tell me the context of that quote. Was Beliveau saying Yvan worked harder than others or that he sometimes slacked off showing that even the most talented need to keep working?
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I interpreted it as him saying that Yvan may have been less talented than some, but was so successful because of hard work. But I suppose it could go either way – I never really thought about it deeply until you mentioned it. The reason I use it is to make a point that this team needs to always work hard. I think many on the current team don’t really appreciate what it means to be a Montreal Canadien, and just take it for granted. That kind of attitude is fine for Columbus or Florida, but not here.
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http://www.celebrations-gomez.com/en/
Yvan wasn’t very big 5.7 even for that time it was pretty small…maybe that’s the reference.
edit; ISN”T very big, sorry. But that guy could fly in his day…
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Kiss my hAbSS!!!
It’s actually more logical interpreted the “other” way. As in “Yashin was proof of that”. LOL But since it’s Beliveau you can be sure he meant it as a compliment – that Yvan’s hard work was enough to make him better than bigger more talented guys who didn’t work as hard.
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Counting your chickens a bit early, methinks.
The Habs are not making the playoffs. But they do have more talent on their roster than teams like Columbus, Carolina, and probably the Islanders.
Montreal is not the only team that will sell assets at the deadline. Buffalo will almost certainly be looking to move players, as might Tampa Bay if they don’t pull out of it.
With Carey Price in net and a bunch of youngsters who could continue to improve in the second half, I think the Habs have more potential to go on a miniature draft-lottery ruining streak than the other lottery contenders. If (and that is a huge if), Andrei Markov were to return for March and April, his presence could be the difference between say a #3 or #4 pick and a #7 or #8 overall pick given how tight things are at the bottom of the standings right now.
Keep our Big forwards for the rebuild:
Cole-Maxpac-Kostitsyn-Bourque-Eller maybe keep Plekanec and Gionta if you can’t get anything for them. Big tough scores is the way to go. Boston proved it last year and maybe this year. The remainding forwards. See what you can get
So do we know by now what did PK order for teammates at practice?
some A&W rootbeer and fries!
Tied for last in the East, but currently only drafting 7th? Worst of all worlds.
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Yikes. Still not the worst of all worlds, though.
Tied for last in the East, drafting 7th, PG still being there and drafting another d-man when there are valuable forwards and centers still available… Now that would be close to the worst of all worlds!
We have centers – I think we need wingers to go with Plekanec, DD, Eller and White. We can sign a cheap 3rd center a la Metro/Moore/Halpern in the off-season to boost our depth.
We a nice winger that scores and has size a la Neal, Benn, Lucic, Franzen, Perry or Nathan Horton.
The centers are not nearly good enough to contend.
I am pretty sure you would say the same thing if our centers were P. Bergeron and David Krejci.
Getzlaf, Carter, Lecavalier and Stamkos will all miss the playoffs this season. David Krejci does the job for you, if he’s flanked with Horton and Lucic.
Desharnais does a great job, if his wingers are Cola and Pacioretty, FFS.
Don’t worry, PG ‘s time is coming to an end, thank God
Tied for last? Excellent. High pick coming our way!
Leafs 9th? Perfect. No high pick, no playoffs – ideal.
As long as the cup winner is from west, this season could actually be pretty good.
It’s funny about the Leafs, they’re just hanging on despite the fact that Kessel, Lupol, and Grabovski are way above their usual shooting percentages.
In other words, they’ve had a TON of good luck (most of the Habs shooters are well below averages) and are still just clinging.
I have a feeling they’ll make it though. Florida will fade. They still haven’t recovered from the “Martin Years”.
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Florida’s roster is vastly changed; they completely bought their forward line-up. No superstars, but have incredible depth with $2.5-3.5 players. The main reason they’ve let off is that they had 7 starters at one point injured. They might never dominate a whole season, and I seriously question the deals their top 2 d-men have, and their goaltending come PO time, but I say they will be a good team for years yet.
I could live with an eastern win as well – as long as it’s not the Bruins or the Leafs (not that the Leafs will ever win again
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The Brass hats and the suits have made so many wrong moves this year, I can only see good things happening if they decide we are not going to make the playoffs. I am pretty sure the way this gang operates, if they make trades based on us not making the playoffs, were a lock to be in.
Don’t fool yourself. unless the New Jersey Devils, The Toronto Maple Leafs, or The Florida Panthers Go into a slump. The Habs will not be playing hockey after the 7th of April.
Lol, no kidding
Playoffs??
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Tied for last in the east.
Unacceptable
do you remember at the beginning of the season when montreal lost damn near every game in the first 10? And prominent Canadiens said “chill”.
Think!
Wouldn’t winning a few of those few first ‘unimportant’ games have made the difference now?
Yes – Every gd game is important. Why did they get away with thinking so irresponsibly? Making the playoffs in the east has been the difference of a few points between success and failure for years. That’s right – profit and loss – that’s what it’s all about. If you make the play-offs, we make a profit, and we can make the team better. If we don’t make the play-offs, we don’t. Is that rocket science?
Are they grade 2 kiddies? No, they are millionaire, childish, irresponsible idiots.
You are privileged to be one of a few employees of a legendary Montreal Canadiens organisation, and you have the audacity to utter idiotic brainless epithets like ‘chill’.
It’s time to educate these mouth-breathers in the ways of the real world. Many work a lifetime for what these idiots make in a season. It’s time for these mouth-breathers to learn what is at stake. It’s time for them to show a little spine, or get out.
It’s lunch bucket boys – earn your pay, every gd day.
What is fundamentally wrong with management to allow key players to think like floaters?
Gauthier – smarten up. Inform your players of what is at stake. Success or failure. If they don’t buy into the winning mentality at the season’s beginning, then it’s banishment to the khl or worse. If they’re that stupid, then it’s that simple.
To allow this mediocrity is simply management at its’ worst!
Think of the players in the past who bled for le blanc, bleu, et rouge. Now think of these pathetic floaters. (With a few exceptions. Watch Erik C, he knows what is at stake. Most other little girls think ‘it’s all about me’,)
Makes me gag.
Everything you said is correct. Everything. Honestly, it’s for the best just for one year. It seems nobody knows anything about hockey and the only way to purge this team of it’s grossly incompetent management is to miss the playoffs.
Look, this team is going nowhere and hasn’t been for 15 years. Missing the playoffs almost guarantess the firing of management as well as Cunnyworth. There are a few pieces here, where if a smart GM and his people come in, can turn this thing around fairly quickly.
Trust me, it’s for the best.
You would think that kerrgte’s comments were astute whereas if anything the whole rant was obtuse. You really haven’t a clue have you?
Trust me, you don’t know jack sh!t.
lol, captain cantankerous strikes back!
the force is strong in this one.
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Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.
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Andreas Engqvist recalled for tomoroow’s game.
BTW, Today and going forward bare in mind….FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT, FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE biased IDIOT
Why?
How about that bullshit Cammalleri story and the shameless self-promotion he used it for?
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The Cammy story was a scoop. Maybe a poop scoop but a scoop none the less. I read his PK article in French (in other words non Google translated) and there was nothing inflammatory about it.
How do you know it’s BS? Self promotion? Admittedly I haven’t been super on top of hockey these days (except noticing that Halak is ripping it up lol), but from what I gathered Gagnon spoke with Cammy and wrote what was said.
Where is the information that validates your statement?
Cammalleri says he was misquoted and Arpon Basu, who was also present, does not report that Cammalleri called the Habs “losers”.
Gagnon parlayed his story into 15 minutes of fame in English media.
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I wasn’t there, but the gist of the article was accurate, Cammy wasn’t happy and wasn’t on the same page. It was the right move to trade him, taking into consideration his one-dimensional play as well as his salary. It’s not the first time he’s been called out as selfish and bad in the room.
Gagnon is a very reputable reporter and has been around a long time. He isn’t like a lot of the other French media. He deserves respect. If Gagnon writes that was what was said, then that was what was said.
How is Gagnon a “very reputable reporter”? Where is the information that validates your statement?
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I’ve always heard his peers say nothing but very good things about him (including Boone). I’m really repeating what they have said. I think they know a little better than you Bill. If you don’t believe me ask Boone and Stubbs themselves.
If any of you guys read this feel free to give your opinion.
I don’t recall Boone or Stubbs sticking up for Gagnon on this one. There was an article in the Gazette criticizing his story, actually. In other words, I’m sure they know more than me – and you, while we’re at it – but where are their laudatory statements about Francois Gagnon? Are you making this up or what?
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From Boone’s liveblog, on Jan. 11 (Cammalleri trade, of course):
“François Gagnon sticks by what he wrote. I am TOTALLY on Frankie’s side of this, based on what I’ve seen and heard of Gagnon and Cammalleri”
by Mike Boone January 12 at 6:35 PM
Just stating the facts, here. I’m not pro-Gagnon in any means. I’m not much into sentationalist reporting.
I wonder what kind of Press, the Habs would be getting if Quebecor owned the team.
Well, please tell us what you think instead of putting out a loaded question…
Let me guess, the words ‘French,’ ‘separatists,’ ‘racists,’ ‘allo-police,’ and innumerable other HIO clichés will be sprinkled about, and maybe a blurb or two about that b!itch, Mdm. Marois.
I suggest that they would receive more favorable press, if Quebecor owned the team, it would be in their interest to do so. My point is that since Quebecor does not own the team, and lost in a bidding war, they dont care what damage they do to the Habs, if they can entice more people to buy their products.
When did Quebecor buy up TSN and CBC? and also the Gazette?
They are just as guilty as any of the buffoons that write in French. Its a product of the market size and intensity.
Language issues, race debates, etc are symptoms. The media in general is the disease. Same in politics as it is in sports.
French media this, French media that… lotsa ignorant clowns on here.
Is the CBC french media? Is Don Cherry, err ‘Cherie’, french?
Is TSN the French media?
They started ‘PK Controversy’ way before it became fashionable.
And now the Gazette does it routinely. Is the Gazette french media?
Actually all three of these entities subtly posture themselves as the enemy of all things French in Québec and Canada. But the French started racism, so its on them, eh?
Thank you.
It’s just grossly obnoxious… and I’m not one drop French, nor am I Canadian.
At least after todays games we can put to bed that the habs have any chance at a playoff spot.
Not so fast slick, they win tomorrow and they take sole possession of 11th and move to eight points behind the loafs, with the same amount of games played.
Sorry to ruin your fun, but it’s still possible.
florida now tied with the leafs and same number of games played as the habs
Still, I’m just saying it ain’t time to call it quits just yet.
It’s a long long long shot, but not outside the realm.
it will be tough..just to put it in prespective if they win vs detroit they would have obtained 5/6 points last 3 games but are still 8 points out ..just the same as 3 games before
It’s time to call it quits. It’s in the realm of possibility just like flipping “heads” fifty times in a row is in the realm of possibiity. Surrender to reality, amigo.
It was over in November, no way to recover from a start like that in the NHL today. Not that they’ve really tried, haha.
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what Bobby Holik thinks of PK Subban
http://holikonhockey.com/bobby-blog/pk-subban/
BTW, FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT, FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT,FRANCOIS GAGNON IS A MASSIVE IDIOT, My Two cents…
Welcome to last week.
Don’t be so cantankerous.
The Circus Spacek was referring to are the media and not the fans. The team should keep reporters out of the dressing room and limit accessibility to the players. Enough is enough.
Let those idiots grovel. Present company excluded.
So, then, you wouldn’t be one of the people who whine about how mean the organization is because they’re too tight-lipped and as a result do a disservice to the fans, would you?
Not coming at your head, HH, just making a point, because I think your post is on the money for the most part. I think access to the dressing room should be an occasional ‘treat’, not every single game day in day out. The interviews are watered-down useless dribble anyway because of how frequent you hear the same crap.
Totally agree. I come here for the fun banter and the fan insights. I prefer reading bloggers who have little if no access to the room at all. I never if rarely listen to the after game interviews. I’d rather read the stats and make my own conclusions. If I am really feisty I’ll pop on down to en attendant les nordiques for some deep stats analysis.
This whole 50 microphones in your face with the same canned responses day in and day out is over-kill to the max.
It’s like a bunch of little crack monkeys or coke rats furiously hitting the lever for that extra dose.
The press wont stop on their own. The team needs to cut off the supply.
It wont be me freaking. It will be the Francois Gagnons and the Bertrand Raymonds that get all uppity. I say do it. It will weed out the balanced journalists from those with an agenda.
No normal person could expend physical energy to jockey for position in a room to hear the same uninteresting nonsense every night.
‘We shoulda shot more’ ‘our passes were off tonight’ ‘we’re just taking it one game at a time’… spare me.
‘we need to work harder’, ‘we’re doing the right things’, ‘if the chances keep coming so will the goals’…
And then when somebody drops the L-Bomb they get traded mid-interview.
“This whole 50 microphones in your face with the same canned responses day in and day out is over-kill to the max. ”
Exactly. And if you make the monumental mistake of getting out of the politically correct all made up canned answers, you’re in big trouble.
What exactly do people want to hear in post-game interviews anyway. Especially if they lose or play bad, you just know what they’re going to say. You’d get the same result by putting a record on repeat game after game. “Yeah, we’ve gotta regroup” / “Gotta give them credit” / “Gotta build on this and get ready for next game”… Yawn.
I wouldn’t freak out if the players actually got a little more room.
” The interviews are watered-down useless dribble anyway because of how frequent you hear the same crap.”
This. Nothing against the guy, but if I never heard another word from Josh Gorges I wouldn’t care, I can predict with 100% certainty what he is going to say, why go bothering him in the room to get it.
The Montreal Media is still mad at Gainey when he stopped The Media from traveling with the team & they had to make their own travel arrangements……
Personally i’d like to see timo get a full media pass. Or maybe even a spot on antichambre sitting between JM and carbo.
Amen the media in this town is poisonous and detrimental to the team.
Now it’s official – Tim Thomas is a Neanderthal idiot. I guess that’s obvious considering he’s a Bruin.
Maybe, but he’s still the best goalie in the NHL.
I can name 3-5 goalies who are better than Thomas this year and none of them are named Price or Halak.
Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne, just for a start.
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How many Vezinas or Conn smythes have they won? No, Thomas is still the man. Just because one of those goalies have a few points lower GAA, doesn’t make them better. If there was an Olympics and they were all from the same country, you would be nuts not to take Thomas.
He’s won in the big moments just last year and is the best.
And yet he went and they took Miller. TT has some of the WORST rebound control in the NHL, it’s a joke. I’ll give you he is the best at stopping the first one and tracking plays side-to-side, but if he played for a team that had poor d-zone coverage it would be a joke, as it was in years past.
I can name only one, Lundqvist . Thomas is the reigning Vezina (2 out of the past 3 years) and Conn Smythe trophy winner and is at the very top again this year. He’s the best until someone proves otherwise. Halak is on his tail though lol.
Face it folks, Subban rocks and it would be a HUGE mistake to trade him. Let the kid sort himself out a bit. Show some effin’ patience for once.
Trust me he’d be at the top of the whine list if he was moved. People would be scoping his stats and crying in their sleep.
Hell look how much people regret letting McDonagh go. Subbie has the potential to be a better defenceman than him.
Wow!! Right in the middle of his State Of The Union address
Obama just said he didn’t know Thomas was a goalie. He thought he was a stay at home defenceman……………
“take your time and hurry up”
lol
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Badump tsst. (that’s supposed to be a drum nose)
Possibly the most accurate written rendition of a rim shot I’ve heard so far.
Years of practice.
Heard? o_0
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I’d like to see a ban on reporters and cameras from practice.
I don’t need to know every detail of everything the team does when not in a game.
I know some “reporters” would have a meltdown, but it really has gone too far. PK feeding frenzy – insane.
http://www.didgomezscore.com/ Haven`t posted in a while but had to share this link I stumbled across on FB.
the one in my sig is also a great one (I think the poster MB hooked me up to that one – apologies if it was someone else). This one comes with a countdown clock in celebration of the one year anniversary.
http://www.celebrations-gomez.com/en/
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http://www.celebrations-gomez.com/en/
It was me, but the credit belongs to the Twitter world.
Feb. 5… Tik tok.
Somebody who can do this should never, ever by traded by the Montreal Canadiens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhme_L-K_-U&feature=fvst
If management had done its homework, maybe they would have known Markov would not be back this year and made the appropriate moves so that we don’t have a 22 year old playing mega minutes every game against the other teams top players.
Management has done a terrible job with our defence.
Hear. Hear. Hrumph. Hrumph.
Leafs poor pk…easy sollution…not one pp for the islanders yest..and after 3 today none again..unbelievable
STOP THE PRESSES: A player was yelled at by a coach. Big f—ing deal.
Lol
Hahaha
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But but but… It was a Habs player… Doesn’t that change everything???
Man you jabroni’s in the media that follow the habs make it so nice for the players to want to play here! Can’t wait for this year’s crop of ufa’s to be lining up at the next GM’s door to ask for a spot on the roster come july 1st!
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Reading the posts on here and you would think that we are judging P.K. when actually we should judge Francois Gagnon and keep on posting about him and for once put pressure on him as he deserves.
Easy to hide behind his computer screen and make up stories but they should be held accountable for their word of destruction as any regular employee stands is in front of his boss for his wrong doing.
If we let go he will keep on writing false statements and spreading false rumors.
Already another reporter Pierre Lebrun spoke about the story with other G.Ms. and although most of them were not aware of the rumor one of them said that if it was true he would certainly be interested.
That`s how you spread rumors through another reporter who talks to another and so on. That`s how you run a player out of town.
Gagnon`s story probably spread all over america starting with a scenario that he imagined and went public with . This is if not lies at least forgery and borderline honest. This behaviour should be denounced and he shouls be forced to admit his errors.But of course no need to be accountable when you are in the french media following the Habs…
Phil C I agree with you 100%, great comment. The french media is disgusting thats it thats all.
These fans make me sick
There is no question the French media has done a negative number on players wanting to play here.
Erik Cole on PK -”It’s a mixture between the confidence & the cockiness & we try & keep him on the confidence side of things as much as possible”
More Cole on P.K. – “There’s no doubt he is going to be a real good player in this league for many years to come”
Even more Cole on P.K.- “Eventually some day a Norris trophy candidate or Top 5 D in this league”
Interview with Erik Cole will be on CBC Sports from John Bartlett.
The full interview with Gord Stellick;
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockeynightincanadaradio/video/#id=2189925911
Get the feeling Cole is “good in the room”?
Great signing by PG. Couldn’t have targeted a better fit for the Habs from the available UFAs.
Full Breezer 4 Life
Hallelujah!
More and more I believe that Cole is the best (immediate) addition made to this team (via free agency or trade) in a very long time. I say immediate addition, because I believe that Lars Eller will be an even better addition, once sufficient time has passed to allow him to develop. Speaking of developing, for the sky is falling, I cannot see past the end of my nose, the entire universe consists of what I can see out of my window “excitables” who post here (and those that make a living as reporters) . . . PK will be an excellent player when he has had the time to learn and develop . . . the mere mention of trading him is pure lunacy!
This team is NOT as bad as the standings indicate . . . consistency (or lack there of) of both effort and results (of course related!) coupled with injuries had resulted in a frustrating year . . . yes there are some folks that should not be back next year, but the core of the team is excellent.
I have been following the team for a long long time . . . missed (skipped) school to attend the parades in the 70s . . . you are either a fan who follows through thick and thin, or you are an excitable bandwagon jumper . . . BTW, people with stinky attitudes spend far too much time and energy being negative . . . cheer-up . . . the sun will rise again in the morning, regardless of how well or poorly grossly overpaid athletes perform, or don’t . . .
CranbrookEd
Mr. Beliveau: “Pure Pak mais oui”! . . . What ever happened to Johnny Jelly-Bean!?
Phil C great comment.
These fans make me sick
I just listened to PK’s audio posted above, and this is what I noticed:
- PK is a very mature young man for 22 years old. He handled all those ridiculous questions with grace and class. He may need more experience playing defense in the NHL, but he is not immature for his age IMO;
- The most important sound-bite was when PK said, “if you keep making a big deal out of it every time [the coach yells at me], it is not beneficial to our team.” Sometimes I wonder if the Montreal media are actually trying to sabotage the team, or if they are simply trying to sell newspapers and don’t really care either way.
- I felt sorry for him that he had to answer such ridiculous questions, especially ones implying that he is having a difficult season individually when he is playing his heart out there every night and has been the best defenseman so far. In fact that’s a good question for next time: how does it feel to be a number one defenseman in the NHL in only your second season?
- His attitude that making mistakes is a part of the learning process is bang on. It seems PK is better at managing expectations than most of the media. Karlsson in Ottawa makes a tonne of mistakes, but have you heard anyone talking about him having a difficult season? Me either.
All valid points about PK. He has been refreshing for this organization since day one. But he has got to close that yap
during a game on the bench with his coaches. Or he can yap all he wants but in a professional manner. Yap stays closed. No one keeps making a big deal. How easy is that.
“take your time and hurry up”
“Sometimes I wonder if [1.] the Montreal media are actually trying to sabotage the team, or if [2.] they are simply trying to sell newspapers and [3.] don’t really care either way.”
It’s not either-or. The answers are Yes, Yes and Yes.
This story is fake. What really happened was that PK was benched in the middle of practice and sent to a hotel room. He has since been traded for Marty St. Louis. PG will be announcing the deal this afternoon.
WOW, Tim Thomas thinks government is out of control,what about players contracts .
How about the fact that governments give tax breaks and subsidies to NHL teams to fund arenas and teams, making the entire NHL a big corporate welfare hog?
If Thomas really believed in his principles he’d have to have no part of the NHL.
Full Breezer 4 Life
If I could cut subsidies for the owners of teams, I would do it in a second.
Everyday at NHL practices a player probably gets yelled at by his coaches. But because it hasn’t been PKs year and we are nearing the trade deadline, the media reports it to stir up drama. I really hope PG is not considering dealing PK. I also believe he will be an elite defenseman in the years to come.
Capitals are beating up on the Bruins.
Hammer slipped a sweet pass up the middle.
On the next play, he dove to clear the zone.
Someone remind me why PG didn’t sign him again?
Because he’s 37 years old?
So if you had a choice today, who would you pick?
Hammer or Gill?
Hammer for 2 or Gill for 1? That’s the more accurate proposition.
He offered him a contract.
And Hammer falls down and puff its 3-3
Did not watch Hamerlik in the game against The Pens did you as you would have a different opinion possibly (Also Hal Gill is out scoring Hamerlik this season last time I looked)…….
Wait — I’m confused. I thought that criticism of Subban for borderline-dangerous play & team-irresponsible individualism were absolute and certain proof of racism.
But suddenly Habs’ coaches, Montreal media, & h-I/O commentors are all simply parroting Don Cherry from two years ago.
What’s up with that?
You scamp VH!
I always pick the low-hanging fruit, DH ;–)
On a serious note, are people here actually trying to repeat the John Leclair disaster? It’s like a village curse….
I think it would be a monumental error to trade Subban for a host of reasons. And you are right: it always seems the media stirs up stories and directs them toward one particular player. In this case, the rising storm is heading Subban’s way. When I saw the “story” by TSN that Subban “spat” at Del Zotto, that pretty much conformed how irresponsible journalists can be.
This is what you might expect when a guy like PK knows that he’ll be around long after RC’s ass has been fired. But yeah, this has been blown way out of proportion, kind of like everything else around here.
In other news, Horton out of the B’s lineup with a minor concussion.
I heard from someone who talked to someone else who witnessed two other people talking about this guy they saw talking on his cell that mentioned Subban was seen shopping last night at he Bay. Clearly this means Gauthier was shopping Subban last night in San Fran. Dont tell Mariano.
OH PK—Not to worry, this is just what happens when kids don’t put their 3 or 4 years of time in the American Hockey league first, learning how to be a pro. Learning on the job under fire because of injuries, is hardly fair to kids.!
PK after one season was too good for The AHL…….
You know what, I’m a big fan of Subban and have no doubt he will be a special player in the future. He has the skill-set. The way he played when he joined the team in the 2010 playoffs and over the last season feels more like what he’s supposed to be than what is currently taking place in this circus of a year in Montreal. I really don’t want to lose PK, would hate the day he gets traded.
But if this is the kind of unfair treatment he is going to be subjected to everyday, I’d rather see him go and be able to BE elsewhere.
PK is 22, still learning the game, and still learning to fit in. Please give the kid a break. His name is the media every day for stuff, most of them small and inconsequential. Big deal, a coach yelled ‘wake up’ to a player at practice, the youngest on the squad. Big deal a proud kid tries to justify his blunder on the ice to his coach to avoid being kept on the bench. I have seen Gomez try to give a counterargument to Cunny on the bench, nobody picked up the story. Looks like people are bored with pillorying Gomez, it’s officially PK bashing day everyday.
If I am PK or his parents, I am not sure I want this kind of unforgiving scrutiny going forward, considering he is still on his entry-level contract. He’s made mistakes that lead to goals basically playing the most minutes on special teams and 5on5. But nobody sees the good things he does. Why do you think Cunny keeps putting him out there with top minutes if he’s worse than our other D men?
It doesn’t help that the media has discovered the keyword PK is a seller, and every gullible person now thinks he knows Subban enough to want him traded based on this whole ‘acharnement journalistique’.
People want diversity but few understand what it means. Well, diversity means making some room within your uptight norms for somebody different to fit or give that person some time to adapt, find his place and flourish.
I am starting to see Subban could get traded and totally considering how to accept it already. This atmosphere isn’t helpful, man. It’s sick!
PK will be the GENERAL on D that will bring the cup home and like u hope it for the HABS ,the kid got game and love it as well
the way subban is being treated why would he want to stay so i don,t think we have to worry about resigning him when the time comes as it stands he won,t resign with us anyway and who could blame him and the same ppl calling for him to be traded will be b i t c h i n g and crying that we did so. because on another team he will become the player some of us know he,s gonna be
This is what 3 days without a Habs game will do to this site.
Also known as going stir crazy!! Some posters try to STIR it; and other posters go CRAZY….
My feelings exactly.
Hey guys who was that player, wore 99 traded a couple times…
I wouldn’t want to see P.K. go but at this point everything has its price.
Wilf Paiement?????
well played
They traded Wilf? Why wasn’t I informed?
I just hooked up my 80″ VIEWMUNGOUS in my den a hour ago. Can’t wait to watch the Habs clip the Wings Wed night on the BIG screen!
To the man cave!!!
No girls allowed LOL
I tried to come up with a funny one liner using man cave and caveman. Anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghMa0rv_DF0&feature=related
Frank, you are indeed a master googler.
Unless they’re getting you beverages & snacks……lol
The last time a big deal was made over a guy getting called out at practice, it was Sergei Kostitsyn (2010).
Not wishing for history to repeat itself – just sayin’……
I hear ya.
I was a big fan of SK74 when he was a Knight and especially when he was a Hab ! When he first joined the big team, you knew he was gonna be good. That line of AK-Lang-SK was too good. And the line of Moen, Moore and SK were great too ! But the count effed that one up and the organization suffers with nothing in return. Thanks JM. I can only imagine what AK-Eller SK would look like under Cunnyworth, Boucher etc. ?
Even though I’m probably the only one who misses him playing for our beloved team, it was probably better for him to go somewhere else where he was appreciated.
I just hope the same doesn’t happen with PK, cause I think he’s gonna be elite in this league for years to come.
Habs, OLE !
Doug McLean (on The Leafs broadcast) was saying Nashville would be a good fit for Grabovski if The Leafs decide to trade him not knowing or caring what the history of Grabs & SK74 is……..
Ruins vs Craps on RDS now….pretty good game so far….
When did Thomas get a picture of Timothy McVeigh on his helmet???
When he painted over the swastika.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Also, Boone you wrote “Tetteri” instead of “Petteri” up top, im sure the finnish people (J.J of Turku?) are offended. Just a heads up!
If i won the stanley cup, i sure as hell wouldnt wanna meet Stephen Harper! Obama? Maybe we dont all think he’s the bomb, but it sure would be an honour to meet someone so influential.
Brian Wilde CTV tweeting words of wisdom in regards to PK, my favorite so far!
“If a player has been world class at every level, then he must be given time to mature at the next level.”
I like it. The debate yesterday ( Thomas the Tea Partier)and today (PK being coached) has got to be my least favorite days on HIO. Thanks for sharing Brian’s most logical tweet, Frank.
Careful Jim, Price vs. Halak can reappear for no reason at all.
Oh God. I think I’d rather talk about the tea party again then that. : )
Your face thawed out so you can smile again
We like to mess with you Americans at times BUT we do love you all like Family. Your society and politics confuse us at times but probably we do the same to you.
They confuse me too but its the price and the joy of a free society. Good news, looks like neither chrisadiebs or I will not lose any of our extremities to frostbite. : )
Lebrun twitter 15 minutes ago
Clarifying my mangled french from RDS hit: in talking to several teams today, NONE of them had heard Subban’s name as being available but what I said on RDS was that one team suggested it might be a possibility…. But they had not talked to Montreal.
Edit; Sorry malreg, had not seen your post!
In other words, there is absolutely nothing credible to suggest that PK is on the trading block. Nothing to see here, but the Montreal media have their hits!
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Funny….I’ve heard Pierre Lebrun on RDS or French radio…..His french is impeccable….
I think I heard PK and Gomez were playing a video game in the dressing room after practice, World of Tanks.
Or as my french gramma used to say:
“Tanks da wurld, and tanks be to God!”
Tank you, tank you very much!
Ladka is that you?
I thought it was Elvis.
Wasn’t a big Elvis fan, but loved the Show Taxi with Andy Kaufman playing Ladka.
This is for you Gerry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHKUcXNq_xk
Thanks Bri, good stuff!
Wow, that was the worth the price of admission alone!!!!
Can you imagine the fun he would have with today’s fools?
A field day eh Frank, guy was original twisted and brilliant.
And gone much too early!
Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Clarifying my mangled french from RDS hit: in talking to several teams today, NONE of them had heard Subban’s name as being available(Con’t)
Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
but what I said on RDS was that one team suggested it might be a possibility…. But they had not talked to Montreal.
Haha, it might be possible, but we haven’t yet talked to the people who could make it possible. That is too rich.
How dumb are these GMs? First, one claims he didn’t know Cammy was on the market, now this.
So now that he got his moment of glory about a previous tweet, he’s clarifying his facts. Funny.
Was that one team Brian Burke’s team? seriously though why even report that?
“I suppose it’s possible.. but I don’t know”
LeBrun interprets it as:
‘I think PK may be available.’
Yah the same GM who says he wished PG had shopped Cammy to him.
PK called to order at practice! He called to order a large pepperoni pizza with a 2L pepsi! What a non-story!