Beneath the pile lays Los Angeles Kings goalie Jonathan Quick, with another save against the St. Louis Blues.
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So what if Washington Capitals captain Alexander Ovechkin got barely enough ice time from coach Dale Hunter – 13:36, by night’s end – to work up a sweat?
Ovi bagged the third-period winner for his team Monday at Madison Square Garden, the Caps downing the New York Rangers 3-2. And now the Eastern Conference semifinal returns to Washington with the Caps and New York Rangers tied 1-1 in their best-of-seven series.
In St. Louis, meanwhile, the Los Angeles Kings jumped out to a shocking 4-0 first-period lead then cruised the rest of way to beat the St. Louis Blues 5-2. This returns the Western Conference semi to the West Coast with the Kings holding a semi-commanding 2-0 lead.
• On Tuesday: the New Jersey Devils, down 1-0, meet the Flyers in Philadelphia.
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Im neither a PM supporter or detractor. I think PM would be a good GM though. He is highly touted by people with NHL jobs and other pundits. It seems his detractors are those who have just seen him on TV and judge his TV persona as well as those who have read a decades old article judging him on a performance we know from anecdote. I think that’s the issue, people just judge him based on these two things yet we have no first hand knowledge of him. However those in the NHL think highly of him and has been considered for GM in recent years. I think there is a good reason for this and that is that he is competent. If he is the next GM, I wouldn’t be worried. All that matters is that we get a good GM and if PM is that guy then good, if not, good.
Amen.
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Who are the top two scorers for the Nashville Predators in the 2012 playoffs?
1. Alexander Radulov
2. Andrei Kostitsyn
Also they are both in the black on the plus/minus scale.
I love how everyone assumes that the Russians are to blame here while the sobre-minded Anglo-Saxons David Poile and Barry Trotz are in the right.
Maybe Poile and Trotz are making the mistake.
I just know if Barry Trotz was called – say – Jacques Martin and David Poile was called – Oh I don’t know – Pierre Gauthier, H I/O would have a different view of the situation.
Fine. The Preds will lose and both players will be available cheap.
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I am replying to you only because I am astonished by your analysis. This is neither here nor there and you may indeed regard it as gratuitous. But I find your contribution to the board very level headed and realistic and worthy reading. Hence my surprise at your take on this one.
Even acknowledging that there might be a too easy disposition in HIO to negatively stereotype Russian players, I dont think this is an instance that on which you draw-up battle-lines to fight that war.
Plain and simple the players disobeyed team rules at a crucial time and are being disciplined appropriately.
Out at 4am drinking when the game was to be played at 5pm the same day.
Then both of them go in that game, look lethargic and don’t backcheck at all (even if AK scored a goal).
The two players have a combined total of 1 shot in two games.
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Another complicating factor when assessing the draft candidates for the June draft: Mikhail Grigorenko was suffering from mononucleosis during the playoffs . Further, he won’t be able to participate in the draft combine physical testing, so coaches and scouts won’t be able to compare his fitness and maturity to Mr. Galchenyuk’s, for example.
Some of you guys watched him play in the series recently and stated that you weren’t impressed with his play. Would this diagnosis explain what you saw?
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Absolutely. Just like Couturier last year. Someone’s going to get themselves a bargain.
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Good example.
Heard the news this afternoon. Quite a decision for the ‘GM’. So many players have recently rebounded from various injuries or illness to play at the level of their original draft standing.
How can one decide.. is his inconsistent play indicative of his character or his health problems? Glad I do not have to make that call.
http://www.sportspickle.com/news/12450/don-cherry-wears-stunning-floor-length-gown-for-latest-hockey-night-in-canada-broadcast
From AP:
The Nashville Predators have suspended forwards Alexander Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn for Game 3 of their Western Conference semifinal with the Phoenix Coyotes for a violation of team rules.
Nashville general manager David Poile announced the decision Tuesday in a statement but did not elaborate on what rules were broken. The Predators trail the Coyotes 2-0 ahead of Wednesday’s critical Game 3 in Nashville.
“I’ve been a manager for 30 years, I care about each individual player, but I’ve never put an individual player above the team. In this case, the players violated a team rule,” Poile told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun of ESPN.com. “It’s disappointing any time a player has to miss a game because of violating a team rule, and it’s even more significant at playoff time, but the decision between the coach and myself was very easy. “We have to do the right thing. Their actions spoke volumes in terms of their lack of commitment and focus to give our a club a chance to win.”
Good Freakin Riddance AK46.
Might as well put the rest, as it puts in a different spin :
“Let’s not blow it out of proportion, it’s not the first time a player has missed a game because of a team rule violation,” said the veteran hockey man. “We’re full of second chances in this business.”
Maybe we can sign AK and Radulov cheap.
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Hey, I said that!
I mean, uh…great minds think alike!
Either that or we’re both out to lunch.
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I’m sure they would take a hometown discount to sign with Montreal just for the night scene alone.
Another candidate bites the dust.
http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hockey/201205/01/01-4520803-le-canadien-dit-non-a-francois-giguere.php
After Vincent Damphousse and Pat Brisson, François Giguère is now out of the running for the GM position of the Canadiens.
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It was posted earlier. Thanks Norm.
The difference here though is that Vinny and Brisson politely declined, whereas Giguere is disappointed.
Yeah, I notice how I’ve been Sergeant Stale News today. Being three time zones away hasn’t served me well today in being a timely provider of new grist for the mill.
As far as the distinction in how they are no longer candidates, I wasn’t paying attention to that. I’m just really interested in who wins this horse race. At first, we had so many great candidates, it seemed like we wouldn’t be able to choose just one.
Speaking of which, I hope that Mr. Damphousse is hired in some capacity by the team, in a role he can fulfill and still meet his family obligations. He’s a smart guy, well respected, good leadership, we can’t have too many of these guys at the New Forum.
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100% on Vinny. He’s also very familiar with hockey operations and union negotiations….and he’s fluently bilingual.
WOW. I thought I heard speculation that he was still in consideration especially as an assistant.
I don’t know about you, but if David Poile or Barry Trotz came to me and said that there would be no partying until after the playoffs are over, my answer would be “sir, yes sir!”.
That might just explain why the K brothers aren’t here anymore. It’s painfully obvious that maturity is not a prerequisite for the NHL. But it might keep you out of the press gallery.
Strangely enough, Little K was not involved this time.
I hope he chewed his older brother out!
This might mean that we can pick AK up for a song….although doubtful.
I think AK had enough chances in MTL, Nashville gave him another chance, and he is not doing much good with it.
3 goals in 7 playoff games and a +3 on a low-scoring team.
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Come on Paul, you have to know you cannot judge AK based on so few games.
We all know he can play hockey, and be good at it, but if he can’t follow such basic instructions it says alot about his character.
An incident like this proves that once again fans really have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.
Kostitsyn supporters were busy voicing the frustrations after he was traded but for all we know he could have been showing up to the rink hungover twice a week and pissing of his teammates.
And I was one of those supporters. I guess it’s hard to focus on the game with a hangover.
In saying that, it could just be one isolated incident…we really have no idea.
Hobie, that’s relatively naive. It’s not a one off thing. These guys have one job to do: show up on time for practices, meals, games, curfews. Easy. They’ve been doing it for years.
They didn’t happen to forget the clock was ticking. It’s a clear demonstration that they put their own personal interests above their athletic endeavours, above their job.
Saying we have no idea is completely false. We have some idea. We can judge what happened by the fact that the team decided to suspend them. If it had been a trifling thing, a minor transgression, the coaches would have excused it. That they chose to suspend them for a playoff game when they are down 0-2 speaks volumes. We actually have a very clear idea.
Not trying to assail you there Hobie, but I think you’re being very loose with language, and taking presumption of innocence to an extreme, in an unwarranted setting.
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They were bad boys but Trotz and Poile might regret the harshness of their punishment. An early exit from the playoffs.
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Good job owning up to it Bripro. I don’t mind telling you I feel somewhat vindicated. I always saw the talent, but also the lack of effort and lack of hockey sense. I’m glad we got a second rounder out of him, goodbye and good riddance.
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I don’t mind agreeing with most of your analogy. My contradiction to you is his hockey sense. He definitely has it. But he’s lazy. Pure and simple. He’ll give the initial surge, or hit, but then….nothing. I really thought that trading away a 20-25 goal scorer and top hitter with sweet hands would bother me. Maybe it’s because the season’s over, but …. meh.
David Poile put it into perspective for Pierre Lebrun.
I would say, “Barry, how much do you save a year not needing collars for your shirts?”
Hey Boone,
In all seriousness, a poll asking who would be our choice for the next GM, with the options being McGuire, Bergevin, Brisebois, and Giguere would probably be very interesting….and get you even more hits this time of year.
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Giguère is no longer in the running, according to the post just below.
i’ll tell you right away that Bergevin would come in first followed by Brisebois and McGuire
You think so? I’m not sure about that. I think the McGuire supporters are just tired of the insults after stating they think he’d be a good candidate. I say it would be pretty close.
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Habrule1 is right, there is alot of Habs fan supporting McGuire, but he is a divisive candidate, he’s either loved or hated.
Habs GM update:
Francois Giguere has been told by the Habs that he is not in the running to get the GM job.
http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hockey/201205/01/01-4520803-le-canadien-dit-non-a-francois-giguere.php
Ahh no mention of the Monster… good good.
Labbe’s artical doesn’t mention him, but I read elsewhere that he still is on the short list along with Bergevin and Brisebois.
Agreed…so he’s still in the running….good good.
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Grigorenko has Mono… not that it matters but I hope that increases the chances of MTL picking Galchenyuk over him
Listening to Gary Roberts about Rad and AK. He can’t believe 2 new players to the team would bring controversy to the room during the playoffs. They had such a tight group before they showed up.
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LMFAO….guess we weren’t imagining it here in MTL…really cares a lot about winning and playoff hockey eh…can’t even keep it under control in a situation where he’s the new guys, bet his teammates love him.
Funny how the two new Pred comrades AK46 and AR47 get the axe yet former Hab bad boy and reformed Trotzky SK74 was home in bed reading Dryden’s The Game or something…
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Hmm. So, pretty safe to say that AK is definitely going to be a rental to the preds. His stock has taken a bit of a hit. Is there a place for him on the third line with Eller?
That reasonning would mean Radulov would be available too, but as a RFA.
I doubt AK will be back next year, he’s been given plenty of chances in MTL already.
But isn’t a consistent 20-goal scorer at around $3 million/yr decent value?
Yeah, for sure.
But I’m thinking AK is aiming higher than 3 millions per, as he is already making 250k more.
I think he can get at least 4 millions elsewhere, maybe more.
i agree
“I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
- Sean Bonjovi
Fair enough. Should be an interesting UFA market.
Gerry I don’t think I’d use the word consistent while describing AK. Skill? Yes? Potential? Yes. Lets turn the page on this guy. We’ll find a 25 goal scorer somewhere with a stronger work ethic.
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3 season over 20 goals, and a shortened one where he was on pace for 20 goals, Gerry did say a consistent 20 goal scorer, not a consistent player.
Yeah, what Shiram said. He is frustrating to watch, sometimes. The guy has the skills of a 30-40 goal scorer, but the output is little more than half that. Then again, so is the salary, so…
Video Released of Radulov’s suspected DUI try and watch whole video without laughing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBC5aa1wFw
Demonstrating his backchecking technique…
The first hit has to be considered a direct head shot , the second was definitely a display of his backchecking
What happened to those Russians? Were they enjoying May Day a little too much?
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Radulov and Kostitsyn spotted in bar in Scottsdale past midnight Sat., before 5 pm Game 2 loss. Team was staying in Glendale, 45 mins away.
AK46 scored a nice goal in game 2……
Wow, out partying the night before a playoff game. Good job fella’s. Guess Nashville better trade them to the LA dry island.
So I guess Sergei showed some good judgement and wasn’t hanging out with big bro when the rules were broke?
Sergei missed the cab and didn’t know where they went.
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haha
Andrei Kostitsyn violating team rules.
Where is Jacques Demers to cry and call this the darkest day in Predators history?
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Why did we let those Kostitsyns go?
This news just made Benoit Brunet’s day.
Underperforming, inconsistent athletes with talent underperform for a reason. Afraid the evidence may be piling up on this “great in the room” player.
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Sad part is Andrei and Radulov have been putting up some points, that are hard to come by…
stealing purses and smashing cell phones no doubt…at the rippers to boot!
Russians want to win World Championships. North Americans want to win Stanley Cups. To suggest otherwise would be naivety of the first and highest order; and no, despite the musings of some, the aforementioned statement is not racist.
Not racist but a bit off. There are many, and I mean many Russians that want the Stanley Cup more than a World Championship. You’re statement was more accurate about 20 years ago than it is now (although it is still true for some).
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How about we paint these two players as individuals, rather than saying that all players from Russia don’t care about the Stanley Cup.
And I agree your statement isn’t racist. Russian isn’t a race.
Your statement is however bigotted… painting a large group of people with stereotypes based on actions of two members of that group.
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On that note did anyone notice Radulov back check, or i should say stroll back to the defensive zone in game 1 and 2 of the series, totally must be tearing team unity apart,
If Giguere is hired he will in turn hire Roy as coach, the connections are too strong, Colorado and both from St. Foy.
Ah, the obvious is my specialty.
Pierre McGuire will hire Krusty the Clown. They are both TV personalities who are clowns.
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Krusty is more likely a candidate for G.M., given the nature of his personality. I’m thinkin’ Krusty as G.M., Sideshow Bob for head coach..
Agreed.
Nashville Predator news release
Andrei Kostitsyn and Alexander Radulov will not be dressed for game 3 for breaking team rules
That’s great, and Kovalchuk goes lame in Jersey, so much for my pool.
Which rule? Backchecking???
That’s a good one. lol
That is a good one.
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I for one will be more upset to see Price signed for anything more than $5.5 M for 5 or 6 years as opposed to a team putting in an offer sheet which will send us those 1st round picks…
Not because it’s Price but because no goalie in the world is worth crippling a team with that kind of money thrown at them…
5.5 for 5 or 6 years is ok with me. I just hope they don’t throw crazy term at him like the Loungo contract.
If that’s what he wants and he refuses to budge, then I say trade him.
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Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.
Offer sheets being accepted are such a rarity, apart from Penner in 2008, you have to go back to 1997 for another accepted offer sheet.
Price would have to get a 6.3millions or more offer so the Habs get 2 first round pick.
And upwards of 7.8 millions for the 4 first round pick.
One can hope there’s a gm stupid enough….calling Burkie, come in, Burkie….
Nick Kypreos knows squat about other than blue & white gossip.
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As a footnote to his article, Sportsnet appends this:
“Nick Kypreos is a Stanley Cup champion and Hockeycentral analyst”
I want to hurl. How did this guy become a Stanley Cup champion? Like Tomas Kaberle did in Boston?
The blurb should read: “Nick Kypreos is remembered only for his targeted takeout of Grant Fuhr in a playoff game by crashing and falling on him and blowing out his ACL, taking Mr. Fuhr out of the series and effectively ending his career. Mr. Kypreos never achieved anything else in hockey. Yet, he’s a HockeyCentral analyst.”
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Nashville suspends bad Russians for game 3, maybe they win…
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“The Nashville Predators have a few simple rules centered around doing the right things,” Predators president and general manager David Poile said in a statement. “We have always operated with a team-first mentality and philosophy. Violating team rules is not fair to our team and their teammates.”
Wonder what those rules are. Never liked the Radulov deal, and how he
bolted and came back for the Playoffs, that sets an awful precedent.
edit : rumour say it’s a curfew violation.
AK and Raduloff suspended for violating team rules.
Interesting. I wonder what rules they broke? Curfew?
Schadenfreude time.
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You’re joking. You can’t post stuff like that without a link.
EDIT: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/05/01/sp-nhl-stanley-cup-playoffs-alexander-radulov-andrei-kostitsyn-nashville-predators.html
I guess this seals the deal. Andrei will be in the KHL next season. Nobody will want to sign this guy long term.
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Grigorenko out with mono, apparently it started at season’s end.
french:
http://fr-ca.actualites.yahoo.com/lhjmq-remparts-grigorenko-serait-malade-154209250–spt.html
That’s two consecutive years the top prospect in Quebec comes down with the kissing sickness.
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Beautiful puck bunnies must abound in the QC.
Beautiful DISEASED puck bunnies. Ewwww.
Depending of the severity, that pretty well guarantees that he will return to the Q next season.
That means regardless of which player the Habs draft, the 1st round choice will not play for the big team next season.
I’m fine with that. Montreal can go with Pleks/DD/Eller at centre again for 2012-13. It just means the team needs to go out and find a 4th line pivot.
He’s supposed to be in total rest for 4-6 weeks.
Mono can have a real lingering aspect to it. It basically knocks the hell out of a person. On the other hand, the guy is an athlete and is just 18 years old which should help.
It sounds like he won’t be doing much of anything until July 1st and then training camp starts in two months. I don’t know, it was only an outside chance that he would ever make the team so what’s the rush?
Yeah, it depends on the severity. One of my former housemates was a pitching prospect as a teenager when he contracted a particularly nasty case of mono. His spleen and liver were enlarged for over a year and he spent a lot of time in hospital. Basically derailed his career before it ever got going.
Looks like when Michael Andlauer, is back in town the Habs GM committee will move onto round 3 of the interview process with the most probable battle for the job between Marc Bergevin and Pierre McGuire,
Good Luck to both candidates , and here is hoping Geoff Molson,Michael Andlauer and Serge Savard can decipher and question the future plan proposals put forth in earlier interviews and come to a favorable and unanimous decision for our next GM so he can get busy.
I really hope to hell Mcguire’s consideration is only the fantasy of TSN Radio fans. He hasn’t been involved with a NHL team in any capacity for a long, long time. Just because he researches junior players doesn’t mean he knows SFA about drafting and developing players. Throw in working within a cap and attracting free agents, McGuire is more a monster in a closet than an actual candidate.
That’s your opinion, but I think if he’s getting the consideration he seems to be, then perhaps he knows a lot more than you’re aware of. Is that even remotely possible, or have you read his resume?
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You haven’t. Check this out:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=56426
Are you aware from that that he was Assistant GM in Hartford? I’m sure the Habs committee is smart enough to figure out if McGuire is qualified.
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Yes, and they did so well they are in Carolina. He was assistant GM years before the Cap.
McGuire would be wise to remain where he is. He can analyze all he wants and be thought of as something more than he is. As GM, he would be responsible for growing a team and winning a Cup. Isn’t going to happen.
Guess I’m surprised at all the speculating on the new GM when most of us, if not all, don’t really have a clue who would be good. None have any real experience at the job. It’s a crap shoot just like our draft picks. We can only hope, with all the time they are taking to pick one, they have taken all steps to find a suitable person to do the job.
The day having a clue becomes a prerequisite for commenting online is the day Internet chat dies.
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So now it’s McGuire’s fault that Hartford moved. You’re hilarious. He was 32 years old. As I said, the search is very thorough, and he’s on a very short list of potential GM’s right now. I don’t think he’ll get it, but it speaks volumes that he is still on that list at this point.
You simply cannot admit the man could be a good GM. You’d rather stick to your guns and say everyone who believes he could be is wrong….not you.
Whatever.
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So many interesting questions, so few concrete answers. Who will be the new GM? Who will he/she choose as coach? Will the new management team seek to enact a wholesale change of personnel and philosophy? Will they go big and tough, speedy and skilled, or stay the course and perform a slow build? Do they trade a few existing roster players for higher picks? Will they trade some high picks for proven and experienced vets?
And the most pressing question asked daily on HI/O? Should the Habs keep RC on the coaching staff next season?
Come on Mike, inquiring minds and all that but let’s get a new poll going.
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I think a fitting question would be:
Do you think Pierre McGuire would be a good hire as the next GM of the Montreal Canadiens.
Surely, there would be some avid voters!!!
He/she? C’mon, punkster, being PC has you out on a limb.
“SHE”? The earthquake in Quebec would be caused by all the dead former Habs spinning in their graves. Time for a drink. Silly time comes early today.
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So if jordan staal is potentially available i would think that we need a manager asap to get this kid signed. we bitch and complain about no size up the middle….so lets make this happen. yes, it will cost us but we have enough youth to spare
any chance timmins is being interviewed for the job? have not seen his name mentioned anywhere but is that a long shot?
I’ve had Timmins has my dark horse candidate, Seriousfan09 posted about him in his blog, and I liked the idea.
As for Staal, unless we part with first rounders, Habs do not have much to offer for a guy like him, especially for a team like the Guins that are likely looking for either scoring wingers or D.
Giguere’s stint in Colorado certainly wasn’t pretty, but he was appointed GM after the season when they made the Theodore/Aebischer deal. That one is on Lacroix.
Giguere’s worst deal was giving up the 1st round pick to get a washed up Adam Foote back from the Jackets.
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thanx for clarifying that, the rest of his trade record is not so great.
No his record as a whole sucks.
Hiring Giguere will feel the same to me as hiring Gauthier.
I just wanted to clarify that the Theo deal wasn’t on him. However later deals that didn’t work, he can be blamed for those.
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Has anybody been able to figure whom the other 2 people are on Montreals GM Search Committe that Darren Dreger refers to? He mentioned the other day that it was a 4 man search team, would Larry Carriere be part of this group or dare i suggest Bob Gainey still has input?
Gotta be Jacques Martin!
I was going to add him to my list, but thought the BG name would have been enough lighter fluid to get the blaze going.
I am very curious though as to whom these other two people are.
Michael Andlauer is one for sure that part of the committee, that is will hire the next GM. He is a minority owner of the Habs and also owns the Hamlron Bulldogs
Found the answer, Kevin Gilmore and Michael Andlauer. Thanks to Habsworld for having this information.
Rejean Tremblay.
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Reading Eric Engel’s article this morning it surely seems like he is warning fans to prepare themselves for Pierre McGuire.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst…as they say. I like McGuire more than most as a commentator, but I don’t believe that he would be the ideal GM candidate.
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I happen to think that Maguire is the best man for the job. I also think that the LCC connection b/w Molson & Maguire will seal the deal.
Let us all hope you are so wrong it isn’t even funny.
Cal, it saddens me beyond expression that the Habs have been conducting their search without the services of your infinite and definitive wisdom.
The 2 candidates are Bergevin and Brisebois. Going beyond them is just a show so people can see “how wide a net” they are pretending to be casting.
Only acolytes of Moronaro and Mitch Dullnik actually believe McGuire is a feasible candidate. Ridiculous.
Glad you are in on those meeting Cal. I’ll sleep better at night knowing you’re at the helm making this decision.
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Kovalchuk out for tonight’s game, lower body injury, some speculation it’s the lower back.
Numerous commentaters have made mention for a few days now that he is not skating well at all recently. Pretty big blow for the Devils.
IT seems many have fallen under the spell of Pierre Mcguire since the GM search begun. THe question is why?……………Well it really is quite simple, everyone always hears PM and his extravagant plans and what he would do to “save” the franchise. But what if we heard the same day in and day out from the other candidates? What if Marc Bergevin or Brisebois were on CJAD and let us all know their first few courses of action if they got the job. I think its quite possible that these same people that idolize and kiss PM’s boots were quickly be tooting another horn.
The opposite is also true. People hear McGuire when he makes a mistake an evaluating a player. For all we know, Bergevin & Brisebois thought getting Gomez was a good idea but we never heard about it (ok, bad example, but you get the point).
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Remember his Big 3 in Toronto comment? Ya, he can evaluate talent, all right. Phaneuf, Beauchemin and Komisarek. Yes, you are reading correctly.
Again, you have not heard anything from the other candidates. How do you know they didn’t feel the exact same way. You are picking on a couple errors when he’s been right hundreds of time.
I hope they choose him just so you’ll go cheer for a team with a great GM like Brian Burke.
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I don’t hear from the other candidates because they aren’t on tv and radio displaying their “knowledge”. They actually are working for NHL teams and not just talking about it.
Good point, but it also just says that while McGuire is an easy target, you don’t know where the others would have gone wrong.
I see you are dead set against it without having the tiniest bit of an open mind, but that’s ok. We all have our opinions. I just see a lot of positives with McGuire, and he’s not even my first choice.
I think I’d go with Brisebois given only the information that is available to me. The point is the Habs likely have much more info available to them, so I’m sure their choice will be much more educated than mine….or maybe even yours.
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Handicapping the Habs GM candidates.
Bergevin and Giguere kinda sound like the favs.
I read somewhere that Bergevin declined thru the Hawks PR folks. But I keep seeing conflicting reports and it’s really starting to get confusing. Just another Habs circus.
i hope this is not the case. i was hoping bergevin would stick. seems like a well rounded candidate.
yup, they could do worse. Ahem.
From what I understood, he declined to comment through the Hawks PR. They said that out of respect for the process they will not comment and any information would have to be released by the Canadiens.
Ahhh, gotcha. Thanks for the info.
Maybe Molson asked him to explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3J8ZFKwE5c&feature=fvst
lol, that’s a blast from the past.
Bergevin declined commenting on the GM search through the Hawks PR folks.
He never declined being a candidate or being interviewed.
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So we are likely getting someone with no experience as GM, starting fresh and all that…
looks like it.
Well there’s Giguère, but the silence is deafening on him.
giguere has experience.
Yup I acknowledged that just a minute before you posted.
Looking over Giguère’s trade history is not very impressive though.
Starting with Aebischer for José Théodore.
http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_team/Colorado_Avalanche/2
Why would we want to injure the candidates? Oh….never mind.
Not sure about the GM, but the more I hear Paul Maurice speak, the more impressed I become. I hope he is being considered.
Interesting name to throw out there. He got a bit of a raw deal his first go around with Carolina I always thought. His time in Toronto is hard to judge given that was the JFJ heydays.
Always is well spoken, seems hard working and knowledgeable. Not sure though about the jump from coaching to GM with no Asst. GM duties along the way etc…
Would have helped his resume to have coached some teams with better talent, but it did appear Muller found a way to get more out of that Carolina squad than he was getting. I have always liked him for some reason, but success has not followed him.
I don’t know if Maguire would make a Good GM but I do think he’s very knowledgeable when it comes to hockey. and he keeps himself well-informed with players around the globe. Having said that whom ever they decide on for GM I hope for a change he can build a cup team not just a playoff team…with a little luck here and there we could have made the playoffs this time around, but that’s not good enough. gotta win a cup once in awhile.
Halak wasn´t the backup last night so I assume he is still injured?
Any word on when he could be ready to play? …not before the series is over, the way it´s looking, which would be too bad.
He is confirmed to be out for the rest of the series due to a lower body injury sustained in the first round.
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St. Louis Blues: No Halak..no chance.
It’s funny seeing the 10 million man getting bottom 6 minutes, funnier seeing that C on his chest.
Seems Ovie’s stock has been dropping in Washington for a while now.
Does Hunter have a better chance of staying a Caps than Ovie does?
Look at it this way: if you’re George McPhee, who do you side with: a rookie head coach or the guy that puts 15,000 asses in the Verizon Centre seats every night?
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I agree, Ovie is still a star player, but how long can he go on playing such minutes without blowing a fuse.
You should have watched his interview with Elliot Friedman last night. Ovie said he will suck it up. As Clay noted yesterday in the live blog thread, Hunter is putting the screws to Ovie in a way that will make him a better team player and will help the team.
How far have the Caps gotten with an unkempt and free wheeling Ovechkin?
Conference semi finals, twice.
I did not see that interview, I usually skip the non hockey segments, so thanks for that.
It will be interesting to see if it will actually make him a better player or not, it does not seem to have helped the team recently.
Another example as to the whole “Europeans suck in the playoffs” argument is hogwash, with Kopitar’s two goals last night, he’s now a +7 with 6 points in 7 games and 11 points in only 13 playoff career games. Not too shabby for a kid from Slovenia.
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You give great info, Cardiac. If you keep on the high road with your passions, the authorities may include you in the HIO elite.
Reason Over Passion influenced me as a youth. Then great players like the superb Mats Naslund, the charismatic Saku Koivu, and stalwarts like Kjell Dahlin, and Roman Hamrlik were Europeans who gave me pride when watching them play in les tri-couleurs. A couple who weren’t great, Cristobal Huet, and David Aebischer are still remembered in a positive light because they were Montreal Canadiens!
“May you live in interesting times.”
Who remembers David Aebischer in a positive light?
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A stalwart like Kjell Dahlin? Naslund, Koivu and Hamrlik for sure. But Kjell Dahlin? Come on! Have a look at his “stalwart” stats.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1227
He was a head case a la Stephane Richer.
Stalwart is a superlative for the Mike McPhee’s of the world. Dahlin falls somewhere between JF Jomphe and Mike Johnson in terms of his contribution to the Habs.
I hate to say I toldja, but I did say that the Blues were all smoke and mirrors before the playoffs started.
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Maybe the Kings are just that damn good?
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One game. Kings did make two major moves, the off-season one with Phillie, and the risky one with the Blue Jackets. May be paying off.
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You’ve forgotten about Counterfactual Man, Jaro Halak.
We all know what would’ve been if he started the series: flip the 2 and the 0.
Anyone else thinking it might be the old flyers vs the new flyers in the stanley cup finals?
that would be a good series.
LA would take it on goaltending alone.
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Maybe we’ll all get lucky and our new GM will be Mike Milbury with Barry Melrose as our new coach.
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Today we’ve got one of my personal favorites I hope slides to the second round for the Habs.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/05/01/nhl-draft-prospect-profile-26-henrik-samuelsson/
Ulf’s son has a mean streak, and I’d love to see the Bruins’ fans reaction if Ulf’s kid is wearing the CH.
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Draft picks from the 31-35 range can be golden (Neal, Valsic, Bolland, Eriksson, Stoll, Roy, Schultz). The Habs’ 33rd pick will need a few years to develop but could turn out to be a vital part of the new rebuild. This has to be where TImmins hits a homerun.
Agreed, not much difference between 33 and a late first rounder.
It could be as high as the 32nd pick too.
Devils need to choose a year to forfeit a 1st rounder due to their Kovalchuk punishment.
This could be the year they do.
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Oh wow, what years do they have the option to decide on? Can they do it draft day? During their pick?
I can’t imagine they’d forfeit the 2013 pick.
Not sure when they decide, but they must forfeit one of the 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 first round picks.
SInce they’ve used their 2011 already (4th overall – Hedman)
and 2013 is such a good draft, i think its likely they forfeit this pick and not take their chances of 2014 being a tank year without Brodeur.
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Absolutely Steve, an early 2nd round pick and having a couple the next two years, have to believe we can hit pay dirt on at least 1 of the 4, maybe get lucky with 2.
Our best second rounders in recent memory have been P.K. Subban and Guillaume Latendresse. I share the optimism that a new trend will arise where we get talent like those two and the others mentioned on this thread. Add Patrice Bergeron to the list of stars who were 2nd rounders. If Danny Kristo pans out, and the odds seem longer every year, another triumph. It’s no longer about “kid turned out to an NHLer,” rather it’s about “our players are better than the other teams’.”
Given the fact that Plekanec was a third rounder, isn’t it unfair that HIO posters criticize him so much?
“May you live in interesting times.”
P.S. A favored son of HIO posters is 26 yr. old Alexei Emelin, who was a 3rd rounder in ’04. If hits were more important than points he would be up there in value. I like the kid, but you need triple the number of defencemen and forwards to hit like him for that style to be effective for the team as a whole. Warning bells sounded when our second most physical defenceman threw a heavy hit in an exhibition game in Switzerland.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Definitely need to add physicality on the backend this summer.
Its nice though that Tinordi loves to hit and Beaulieu can throw the body as well, but those kids are a few years away and we need some kind of stop gap til they get here.
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Well nothing like having your fans smash a car with a sledgehammer to get them into the game. Wonder if Nashville got this idea after reading about what Flyer fans did to Pat Hickey’s car.
http://network.yardbarker.com/nhl/article_external/predators_have_coyotes_themed_car_for_fans_to_smash_with_sledgehammer/10684430?linksrc=home_rg_head_10684430
Probably from the bus driver in Slap Shot…
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Calling it like it is:
Jack Edwards is a clam.
Boston Bruins, gutless diving weasel pukes.
A quote from some article/blog that I clicked.
“The St. Louis Blues don’t have a high-end goalie like Jonathan Quick, but they seemingly had a nice thing going with the Jaroslav Halak-Brian Elliott one-two punch. “
It’s so easy to blame the goalies…
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Calling it like it is:
Jack Edwards is a clam.
Boston Bruins, gutless diving weasel pukes.
Agree, while Elliot may not have been stellar last night, the Blues as a team were horrible. A goalie to be consistently good must have a consistent group in front of him. It isn’t rocket science, but some fail to recognize.
The Messiah will not be making an appearance in the St. Louis vs. L.A. series.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=394718
Guess it will be another day of how Geoff Molson is deciding between Mike Emerick, Glenn Healey, PJ Stock, Kelly Hrudey and Pierre McGuire for the GM position.
Halak seems to be more injury prone since going over to the Blues, luckily fro them, they make goalies look good there.
Now if only they could score…
Let’s get it started!
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McGuire is a tool
Tools can be very useful.
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Paul, I have to commend you sir. While I may be diametrically opposed to you as it relates to Pierre McGuire, you have been extremely diplomatic in your discussion of this matter. CHeers to you sir! Have a good day bud.
Thanks. I appreciate the comment. I don’t really know who should get the GM job. know that I’ve been a Habs fan my whole life…well, let’s say I really remember starting to follow them a few years before Roy got there. I remember Sevigny, Walmsley, Soetart, as the first goalies when I started paying attention.
I really don’t care who gets the job. All I know is what I hear from McGuire, and it seems to line up with my vision for the team for the most part. I also love that he openly has stated that what is important is surrounding yourself with good hockey minds, which displays that he knows he is not all-knowing as some people make him out to think. The thing is I don’t know if he is actually capable of getting the players or building the team he says he would like to. I know he has said some things that have been in bad judgement, including some evaluations. The thing is he actually says them so we can all hear it and critisize him. None of the other candidates have said these things or at least not for all to hear. I think McGuire has made much more correct statements than incorrect ones though. Again, that does not mean he’s the best choice. For that, we have to leave it up to the Habs brain trust.
My gut tells me they will go with Brisebois….and I’ll be fine with that. Whoever gets the job will need some time to get things in order.
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So calling someones posts “shit” and telling them they know nothing about hockey because they don’t like McGuire is diplomatic? If you say so. Must be a summiter thing.
LMAO I thought you were over that joke from last night.
You’re too much, Mr. Sensitivity.
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you guys brought it up this morning, not me. looks like you two guys are the sensitive ones. I’m sure you’ll be patting each other on the back at the next summit discussing what a terrible person I am. Good luck with that.
I did not bring you up at all today.
I don’t judge people from their online persona.
Personally, I’m really nice on here, but I’m even nicer in person.
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