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The Canadiens practice today and then travel to Philadelphia to face the dastardly – and, it must be said, very good – Flyers.

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Dave Stubbs on bad reffing

Red Fisher on Saku Koivu

Jack Todd weighs in

François Gagnon’s take on Koivu

Martin Leclerc on discontent with RDS


  1. showey47 says:

    No he doesn’t have to clear waivers because he wasn’t currently playing for a europeon team.

  2. joeybarrie says:

    NHL is a Cancer. Forget being a Doctor. A close friend of mine had NHL. Here this is from the AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  3. Shiloh says:

    He’s employed because a) he’s a very strong writer b) he espouses opinions sometimes outside the box and c) he can hit a nerve.

    His novels are also excellent.

  4. habfan53 says:

    Mcguire is to GM lists as Ted Nolan was (is ) to coaching lists Always there never hired

  5. Everlasting1 says:

    It’s pretty much the same deal with traded vets too. They can’t pick and choose where they’ll end up. I’m sure Koivu didn’t have his heart set on Anaheim lol


    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  6. The Cat says:

    I dont know how old you are but phantom calls havent always been a part of hockey, I remember a time when refs barely called anything. 1 or 2 calls in the first 2 period and usually nothing in the 3rd.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  7. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Whenever I think about it, I’m amazed at how stunningly unfair the draft is on players. That by agreeing to work for this enterprise (the NHL) you lose all control over where you will work, it will be decided for you. If you don’t like it, too bad.

    And let’s not forget that getting drafted isn’t a guarantee that you’ll make the big bucks in the NHL – if anything it gives you, what, about a 10% chance of making an NHL roster?

    The only other organization that can get away with that kind of thing is the military.



  8. HabFanSince72 says:

    I can only think of one Gazette writer who repeatedly scapegoats and attacks athletes in print.


    Initials JT.



  9. 123456 says:

    he is employed because he writes articles that get attention.

  10. Max_a_million says:

    Separated shoulder is tough.  There won’t be much in the way of news.  It takes a while to be comfortable using the shoulder again, and then it requires building up of the muscle around it to make up for the joint damage. 

    I think his shot wont be the same this season until he get some serious gym time in the offseason.  He won’t be back early.

  11. 123456 says:

    while some of what you write has some truth your first statement is simple not true. lack of a grasp of hockey in the US has nothing to do with the sports origins, but rather the sport itself. i credit the cost to play as the single biggest difference maker between all sports.

    i’d like to know how many tennis courts and rinks there are in both canada and the US.

    not sure why you bring hte NFL and gambling into all this but i know hundreds of NFL fans and only one who is a real gambler – sure we do office pools areound here but do one for hoceky as well.

    in the end, major sports are driven by money and profit. if a canadian city can not support a team and they lose money so be it. sure i’d prefer franchises in winnepeg and quebec over florida and carolina (to name just 2) but it is what it is.

  12. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Any word on Cammalleri? I remember hearing that he’s not due back until after the All Star Break at the earliest (he was put on 7 day IR IIRC)

    Is that the last update? Any idea on his progression?

  13. habs03 says:

    Garth Snow isn’t as bad of a GM as people make it seem. Wang wants a few arean and he isn’t planning to spend much money on the team so a lot has to do with that, the Nabokov claim is just odd, but he has made some decent moves in drafting. Signing Matt Moulson, signing Streit, he could have got more for Wisniewski, but he traded a 3rd round (what he paid for Wis from the Ducks) into a 2nd and a 5th, Traded 41 year old Roloson for Ty Wishart.

  14. Chris says:
    • While certainly no fan of Eric Lindros the person, I had not problem with his Quebec Nordiques stance.  If an individual does not want to play somewhere and is willing to sit out to achieve the goal of forcing a trade (foregoing financial reward and development time), all the more power to him.  Everybody benefitted…Lindros never had to play in a situation he clearly (even if it was misguidedly) wasn’t comfortable with, while the Nordiques/Avalanche got the pieces to build a Stanley Cup contender for years.
    • In a league that has a salary cap, the entrance draft to me is absolutely pointless.  Forcing 18 year old kids into situations without any input from the individual is silly.  The cap prevents teams from loading up.  With a draft and a cap, the draft simply rewards teams for abysmal management.
  15. Max_a_million says:

    I agree with John Davidson, that when an incoming free agent is taken off of waivers there should be some price to pay by the acquiring team $100k, or pay an extra five to ten percent on the salary with some to go to the team that did that work.  Also only teams below you should get a shot at it.


    That being said Snow was very smart to grab Nabokov.  He is acquiring an asset for nothing other than a salary, and a small salary at that.  It would have been stupid, and bad GM’ing to not put in a claim when you (1) need a goalie, (2) need assets … Seriously what is the logical argument against grabbing Nabokov. 

  16. HabFanSince72 says:

    Some people look before flushing the toilet, and some don’t.


    Similarly, some people click on links titled “Don Cherry’s Take” or “Jack Todd Weighs In” and some don’t.


    I admit it, I clicked on the link. First, regarding the supposed hypocrisy. Isn’t it likely that the people who criticized Koivu for not speaking French aren’t the same people who cheered him on Saturday? The French thing came from a tiny minority, mostly journalists like Rejean Tremblay and Michel Blanchard, and had little traction among supporters of either linguistic group. It’s a fair bet that the fans with the #11 jerseys at the Bell Ctr aren’t the ones who “drove him out of town”.


    You want hypocrisy though? Why does Jack Todd not name and shame the journalists who criticized Saku  and “built up Kovalev”?  He’s usually not shy about name-checking his good buddy Rejean Tremblay.


    As far as Saku being a “Finn, with no knowledge whatsoever of Quebec’s absurd, ongoing language obsession,” you’d have to be pretty unaware wouldn’t you? I know about the Basques and ETA for example, despite having spent about 4 days in San Sebastian. I don’t know much about their language issue, but I know there is a language issue.

    Finally, the reason Saku was let go is that he was the captain during the worst Hab season in recent memory. Not worst in terms of points maybe. But the centennial season was a complete debacle. And he was deemed to be more part of theproblem than part of the solution.

  17. Habnofear says:

    What joeybarrie,first nations people on Baffin Island can’t have an opinion…how very white of you ! I’ve read Nuna’s comments for quite awhile ,and though of a different view point than yours it, make’s him no less a fan than you! After all he lives on Baffin Island and could quite easily state” your a over opinionated pussy from a climate zone that does not encourage a sense of community.”;)

  18. Mattyleg says:

    Thank you! Exacty! I don’t like this attitude that people have about shooting down a rule that is supposed to stop teams from hauling in outside players before the playoffs!! “You go play in Russia, Nabby, and we’ll call you up when we’re close to the playoffs,” says Mike Babcock. WHAT??!! The rule is there for that reason, AND, if Nabber or his agent had READ THE RULES, we wouldn’t be in this position. I suppose, by the tone of many responding to my post below, that you all agreed with Lindros’s pissy tantrum about getting signed by the Nordiques!! Supporting this kind of nonsense is poor judgement and shows a lack of respect for the GMs who are trying to help their teams according to the rules.    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  19. Chris says:
    • Subban’s call was unfortunate…I don’t believe it should have been a penalty.  But it all depends on vantage point…the referees, depending on where they are standing, may have not seen the stick being held.  However, anybody looking in that vicinity would definitely see the high-stick.  They have to call what they see.  It’s frustrating, it was a mistake, but its hockey.  The Habs certainly got away with a few obvious calls (at least one high-stick, if not two, to Bobby Ryan’s face) that should have been penalties.  It is a fast game, and the refs are trying to watch a lot. 
  20. slamtherimtim says:

    can anyone tell me if peter forsberg will also have to clear waivers , if not why

  21. The Cat says:

    The only thing they want is more goals/points cause the fans like it. The ref doesnt quite see what happened so instead of no call, he gives one. I realize hockey is fast but it aint that fast and theres 2 refs for crying out loud, it shouldnt be difficult, but it is hard because they worry about the entertainment value more than the integrity.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  22. Chris says:
    • This post, I can agree with.  It is a business, and there are undoubtedly unsavoury sides to that.
    • However, all the major sports have refereeing “scandals”. 
    • The NFL is routinely accused of refereeing bias:  the league was accused of changing the defensive interference rules to benefity the Indianapolis Colts and Peyton Manning, their marquee star.  The Tuck Rule lives on in infamy as a play that many believe was the NFL interfering to help out the New England Patriots, another marquee franchise.
    • In MLB, umpires are routinely criticised for giving larger strike zones to certain teams (the Atlanta Braves being the most oft-cited benefactors) than those given other teams.
    • The NBA is rife with preferential treatment criticisms, with the crescendo coming after the Miami Heat knocked off the Dallas Mavericks in a NBA final that saw the Heat get to the free throw line at will.
    • College sports might be the worst…I used to love the line that every time one of the BCS league teams (like say USC or Ohio State or Auburn) committed a violation, the NCAA felt it necessary to issue a stinging rebuke and lay the hammer down on Northern Illinois.
    • You can also go international…soccer, both domestically and internationally, is rife with claims of refereeing bias.
    • Are referees universally incompetent?  Of course not.  But passions get inflamed when it comes to sport, and an individual doing a borderline impossible job (refereeing a game without mistakes) becomes a scapegoat.  There will always be exceptions, referees that are obviously out of their league.  In general, those officials don’t last long in the profession.  If they aren’t replaced, it is often for the simple reason that no better officials are out there.  It is a hard job that few want.
  23. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Just a few words of French goes a long way in my experience. People who visit Quebec and come away with a bad experience are all too often the ones who go there and show a callous disregard for where they are. When the first words out of your mouth are in English that can raise the hackles of most. But even if you begin with an accented “bonjour” immediately you bring a smile, albeit often condescending. and a response in English  The average guy on the street or behind a counter could care less about language issues. Most of that is media driven.

  24. Chris says:
    • There is no conspiracy meant that the NHL does not have it out for the Montreal Canadiens.  I thought I made that clear, but I will simply state it and hope that my intended point is more clear.
    • Phantom calls are as old as the sport meant that referees are human and have occasional lapses in judgement, in much the same light that you sometimes scratch your head and wonder just who (insert Habs player name here) was passing to on that play.  Are there bad calls?  Yes.  Are there calls that make no sense?  Of course.  Are we experiencing the game through the perspective of the on-ice officials, trying to keep track of 10 players and the puck, all while also having to process the blatant diving and exagerration that every NHL player is guilty of?  No…and unless we do, sitting on our couches or in the stands really isn’t the same thing.  Try refereeing a sport sometime and deal with the constant player and fan abuse all while trying to do your job.  It is an awful, awful job that we should all be glad that somebody is willing to take on.
    • The Montreal Canadiens, as a team, are not getting stiffed any more or less than any other team.  We do have players that don’t get a call that we fans would like on occasion.  Many of those players fall into the category of guys who routinely show up the referees or who have not put in the requisite time to get star treatment.  So their treatment by the referees does not strike me as being different from young players around the NHL.
    • If the referees have this supposed bias, as evidenced by the oft cited fact that Montreal was last in PP opportunities last season and are 22nd overall this season, I have to wonder how in the world they managed to finish tied for 1st and tied for 5th in PP opportunities the two previous seasons, with the league populated by essentially the same refereeing corps. 
    • For years, Montreal was one of the least penalized teams in the NHL, to the point that fans around the league thought the fix was in and the Canadiens were the benefactors.  Now, with a different group of players and a different mentality, they are penalized more frequently and now our own fans assure me that the fix is in.  The truth is that both fans were simply venting their frustrations.  Bad refereeing calls go against all teams and they pretty much balance out.

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