One more sleep

And then, finally, a Canadiens game.

And while we’re waiting, the Juniors go for Gold.

Price says he’s not tired

Team hopes worst is behind them

• François Gagnon on the impact of the wizardly Wiz

• Presse Canadienne feature on P.K.

Who is Brett Festerling?

Islanders winning

Dwayne Roloson hangs a goose egg on the mighty Caps

• Damien Cox writes nice stuff about the city of Buffalo

Jacques Lemaire loved this:



  1. rocketsglare says:

    Good for P.K. Shows community spirit and involvement. Class all the way.

    Go Habs Go!

  2. LA Loyalist says:

    We should have gone to Olympic size arenas back when we started building big stadiums with luxury boxes. We would have a better safer game today. Though perhaps a bit less profitable, which is Gary’s bottom line.


  3. Corporate says:

    I mostly agree with you post. But there is one thing that I kind of disagree with. I do agree that french talent is on the decline. but We do nt have to go further than TB to see 8 french Canadien players. They are pretty good too. So we could have more french talent here, but I am happy with the team we have. it is a team that has heart. They seem to really care. 

  4. NafSbah says:

    Moen-Halpern-Pyatt (4th line @ practice)

    Could they be the most useless line in the NHL? Not Fast (moen) and Not tough (pyatt) No identity. Not a scoring line, not a shutdown line… what are they?

  5. mbplekfan says:

    I hear Dandenault is available. Brisebois too.

  6. RGM says:

    What a crude and underhanded insinuation. Shameful.

    Go Habs Go!

  7. B says:

    Having arguably the best goal scorer in the league doesn’t hurt either.

  8. shiram says:

    Thank you for the clarification.

  9. krob1000 says:

    yup I messed that up…but I the poiint I meant was that he is playing for a big raise…and that would be a factor in why he was trying to play thorugh injury with the other things I mentioned also as factors….I think he has made things worse….and I just hope it isn’t really, really bad…but thanks for picking off the mistake.

  10. GrimJim says:

    It’s an automatic waiver when you sign a non-entry level player part-way through the year. That way, a team can’t gain an advantage by having a star veteran “retire”, then announce a come back in January and play with an extra three months rest and recuperation. Think Forsberg as he neared the end of his career.

  11. ZepFan2 says:

    “the Habs bosses should look at drug testing this kid (I hope not).”

    Does that same rule apply to the rest of the slugs on this team? Or is it reserved only for the goalie?


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  12. shiram says:

    here is the link, for your viewing pleasure.

    I also think Roloson is the better of the 2 deals.

  13. B says:

    One of the letters from the Gazette’s editorial page today:

    Christmas is normally a day to spend with your family and/or friends and to forget, even just for 24 hours, war, famine and sick children. One of our Montreal Canadiens didn’t forget.

    P.K. Subban came to the Montreal Children’s Hospital on Dec. 25 and made Christmas a little brighter for the children, their parents, and even the doctors and nurses, who can’t forget that illness doesn’t take holidays off.

    His selflessness, generosity, kindness, caring and true team spirit touched everyone who witnessed it and almost made some of us believe that there really is a Santa Claus!

    Ellen Mitchell, RN Montreal Children’s Hospital

  14. RGM says:

    Close but not quite – he’s an RFA as he’ll only be 26 on July 1st. Summer 2012 is when he’s UFA eligible…unless the Habs do the smart thing and sign him long-term this year.

    Go Habs Go!

  15. alestar says:

    Actually, Gorges will be a RFA at season’s end, not UFA…


    XXIV…and counting

  16. HardHabits says:

    Steve Yzerman is looking like a genius right now. Regardless of whether this rumour you speak of is true or not. There’s no denying that Tampa is a contender if not a dark-horse. I credit Yzerman and Boucher.

  17. rocketsglare says:

    Price has been far from being sharp and he himself has said so. But, my post refers to the quality of scorers he

    will be facing tomorrow night and besides, I distinctly state that the key to the game will be defending our net

    and not taking lazy penalties.

    Go Habs Go!

  18. J_P says:

    Are saying continuous OT for every game? Thats a little crazy if that’s what you are suggesting.  The reason they have the shootout is to get a definitive winner without the game going on for 5 hours. 

    I personally dont have a problem with ties.  I just dont like the fact that a point gets magically created when the game goes to overtime/shootout.  Either the game should end in a tie at the end of regulation, awarding 1 point per team, or the loser point should be abolished, or they should switch to the 3 point system.  3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an overtime/shootout, and 1 point for an OT/shootout loss.  At least this way there is always 3 points up for grabs, and there isn’t an extra point magically appearing out of thin air. 

    Bottom line, I agree that the loser point needs to go. 

  19. shiram says:

    I was not dissing him or anything just reporting on what I saw, as I know alot here follow his carreer.

  20. ed lopaz says:

    MAB is like a kick off or punt returner in football.

    he’s a “specialist”; and he can do that 1 job very well.

    nothing wrong with having that in your lineup.

    it can be very effective.

  21. jennifer1984 says:

    you MUST GO!!! i have friends who are going tonight and friends who havent missed a game. they drive 3 hours each time (plus the sweet 2½ hour wait on the bridge)

    the crowd is intense and they say they have never been to a better game. so go.. and have fun.

    also i know sport chek had Canada jersey’s for $49.99 last week. might still be cheap if you really want one

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    I suspect (and hope) that Pierre Gauthier isn’t scouring Internet sports chat sites for ideas on how to do his job.


  23. J_P says:

    I find all these high end steakhouses to be complete rip offs.  No creativity in the dishes, just a piece of meat on a white plate with some roasted veggies and mashed potatoes.  Gibby’s is probably the best out of all of them, but still a rip off in my opinion. 

    I guess it all depends on your preference, but personally, I find there are WAY better restaurants in this city for that kind of money.    

  24. ed lopaz says:

    there’s an expression in golf, “no room on the score sheet for the explanation”.

    same applies in hockey.

    as long as the puck crosses the line, who cares how ugly it was??

    its time for this team to start scoring some “ugly” goals, and we do NOT have the horses.


  25. shiram says:

    Rumours of Tamp Bay putting MAB on waivers already, spotted on

  26. J_P says:

    I actually hate when commentators talk during the game, like Pierre Mcguire always does.  Like a little bit here and there between whistles is ok, but when the action is on, time to limit the chatter to whats going on on the ice. 

  27. rocketsglare says:

    Spot on about Cammalleri. He’s been a disappointment so far. But, guys like him just need that one game that

    gets them out of their funk. Unfortunately for Cammalleri, the problem has been that one game.

    Go Habs Go!

  28. Omit says:

    Apparently, someone in Halifax can notice that drug testing might be required, but everybody associated with the team cannot.  Maybe you are overlooking the obvious.  The team has been in a slump and not scoring enough goals to win.  Period!

    Btw, most coaches that I’ve heard discussing goaltending say that a very good goalie will steal at least 10-15 games per year.  I’d say that Price is pretty close to those numbers already.

  29. Hobie Hansen says:

    Anybody with a brain should feel the same way as you! However, its amazing the amount of negative responses you get on this site when you suggest that the Habs need to get bigger and tougher. I usually get the “truculence” comment when I say we need to score more garbage goals, throw more hits, have a better fore check and drop the gloves a bit more often when a teammate is in trouble…  

  30. Kappy says:

    Off Topic but…..

    I am going to the World Juniors Gold Medal game tonight.  I don’t have a Canada jersey, but I have something even better a Canadiens jersey that I will be wearing at the game.  That is if I don’t sell my tickets.  There similar seats available on Ebay right now for asking $750/seat.  I paid half of that for two, but that was before Canada made the finals.  Who am kidding I won’t sell these ticket. I’m going for Gold!!

  31. shiram says:

    I’d say Gorges proved his worth, I honestly cannot see the Habs letting him go, but then stanger things have happened.His play showed how bad he was injured, so he should really get all the rest and healing he needs, no more messing with lightly injured defence-man!

  32. J_P says:

    Lets see the habs start scoring 3-4 goals with regularity before we start saying that Carey needs to be sharper.  Hard to win games when you cant put goals on the board, and with our stable of offensive minded players (Cammy, GIonta, Gomez, Pleks, etc…), theres no excuse for this lack of offensive production. 

  33. G-Man says:

    It is available- google it. Heck, I got mine from a cereal promo some years ago. Every game is on it.

  34. krob1000 says:

    Gorges is still hurt and Hammer and Spacek went shopping instead…they save 15 percent with their senior discounts today. I am pretty worried that nothing has been revealed about Gorges really….I fear it couldbe worse than we know….he is a UFA and you know he would love to be playing and probably pushed it further than he should have with him being a UFA and his iron man streak,his character, etc…..I just hope he can return.

  35. ed lopaz says:

    Dear Mr. Pierre F. Gauthier,

    I would like to offer you a little friendly advice.

    If you have been watching NHL hockey for the last 50 years – which I know you have – you might have noticed 

    how many goals are scored inside the blue paint, on rebounds, loose pucks, and scrambles.

    In order for the current Habs team to improve their goal scoring, you might consider that it IS EXTREMLY RARE 

    to see a hab goal scored inside the blue paint.

    Why is that, I ask you?

    You are the “professional GM”, getting paid many hundreds of thousands of dollars to assemble the best possible lineup.

    Could it be that too many of our forwards are NOT PREPARED TO VENTURE into this area close to the net??

    Could it be that we need to change a few forwards so that we can begin scoring some “dirty goals”, “garbage

    goals” like other teams are doing?

    Please consider this as you approach the trade deadline?

    If there are forwards available who can skate, hit, and pay the price in front of the net, we could use 2 or 

    even 3 of those.

    Thank you.

  36. shiram says:

    Gorges and Hamrlik  getting therapy days today.

    Offensive lines stayed the same, with Eller pinching on DD’s wing, replacing at times Darche and other times Pouliot.

    D : Weber-Picard / Spacek-Wisniewski / Subban-Gill

  37. 24 Cups says:

    How can they be rusty after having just three days off?  They had an extended road trip and a shortened Christmas holiday at home.  It was more of a chance to catch their breath instead of getting lazy.  Fans were also saying that Price needed a break.

    Shout-out to Cammalleri.  How about getting off your butt and doing something?  You were brought in here to be the top scorer and notch 35-40 goals.

    Shout-out to AK46.  Ah, why bother.

  38. rocketsglare says:

    Price will definitely have to be sharper against the Pens who have players that can thread the puck into the net.

    The key for the Habs will be defending our net and not taking lazy penalties. The Habs should be able to score,

    but can this team play a solid 2-way game from start to finish and earn 2 huge points against one of the better

    teams in the Eastern Conference? Will know tomorrow night. Should be a hell of a game.

    Go Habs Go!

  39. derfab says:

    Price has been solid. Halak was solid. There has not been a real goalie issue on this team for years (including Jose and Huet). The problem was and remains anemic offence and team toughness. This goalie stuff is bunk.

  40. habs03 says:

    I think it’s just consistency issue that comes with most goalies until they mature (usually in the late 20’s). One thing I notice is how relaxed he looks all the time, it doesn’t matter if it’s a 5-0 game or a 1-0 game late in the 3rd, he is always casual when handling the puck, when making saves, etc, now when Price is doing well, everyone says “oh look at how cool calmed and collected he is” but when he struggles that turns into “he doesn’t care, no work ethic, etc”. The only difference I notice is last year he had no breaks go his way, where as its even out this year.

  41. krob1000 says:

    yikes…that is some serious homework you are throwing out there…prbably about a weeks straight of Hab watching… may need gravol to handle all of the ups and downs in such a short time…..I know gravol works for motion sickness…but what do you suggest for emotion sickness?

    I see a slight diff but he is nowhere near last year…I have only seen glimpses…this is not a slump lately…it is average goaltending….he’ll be fine. He ahsn;t exxactly been sucking…he has just not been stealing games and hasn’t been the best Hab on the ice.  He is not overcommitting, failing to offer the extra effort,etc like last year…he has just missed a couple…..big diff…but now ay am I watching all those games again…..I am 34 and currently have no ulcers…I would like to keep things that way.

  42. RGM says:

    Welcome to the party, PJ. It was only in the year 1983 that Ken Dryden stated that the Canadiens had a choice between remaining successful and retaining their Quebecois identity.

    Go Habs Go!

  43. petefleet says:

    I challenge Price (or anyone else who has access) to look at any 20 game span last year, 20 games before Dec 10 this year and the all the games since Dec 10.  Look at the body language in those games.  Compare the obvious difference in what he looks like when he’s playing well and when he’s not.  You don’t have to look at the rest of the  team.  For this exercise it’s just his movement style and positioning.  If you or he can’t see a difference I’ll eat my shoes.  I don’t think he’s tired either, but if his play stays the way it is now, the Habs bosses should look at drug testing this kid (I hope not).  He looks like two very different goalies.  Just saying.

    ***Habs Forever***

  44. rocketsglare says:

    It could determine where this team ultimately finishes in the Eastern Conference.

    Go Habs Go!

  45. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ll try La Petite Marche.

    You are right about waiting in line at l’Avenue on weekends (just get there before 9:30 am and there’s no line), but I think the food is spectacular.

    The best is the steak and eggs benedict.

  46. rocketsglare says:

    My biggest concern with the team being off 3 days. Hopefully, the team can shake off any rust they may

    have early in the 1st period. If they can’t, it will be a long night for the boys.

    Go Habs Go!

  47. joeybarrie says:

    Eastern Conf. Lockup….

    Car vs NYR, Tampa vs Pitts, Atl vs Flor, Car vs Flor, Atl vs Car, Bos vs Pitts, Was vs Flor twice, Tampa vs Caps again, Phi vs Atl, Pitts vs Bos, Tampa vs Car, and Philly vs NYR all in the next 2 weeks.

    PLUS, we play Pitts twice, Rangers twice and Boston.

    It is going to be an interesting week or so, and a TOUGH one for us. If our problems arent behind us, we are in trouble. If they are we could be back in 3rd – 5th…

    I think in the end these 2 weeks here will define how we are going to end our season. Trying to slip into the playoffs, or competing for 3rd or 4th.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  48. Omit says:

    Whatever you do, don’t go to Queue de Cheval! It is a total ripoff.

  49. lavie says:

    Sometimes, Well Rested = Rusty.

  50. weightman25 says:

    it could also be the reason they miss the playoffs… what do we have 3 loser pts? look at the teams ahead with 5 6 or 7

  51. Mattyleg says:

    Hmm, L’Avenue is an excellent place to stand in line wondering if you’re ever going to have breakfast, and then pay too much for nothing special.

    The BEST place for breakfast is La Petite Marche, on St. Denis between Laurier and St. Joseph (metro Laurier). Huge plates, not expensive, quick service, and never a wait.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  52. Mattyleg says:

    There’s a good pub for eats and pints pre-game called The Old Orchard on Montagne, just up from the Bell Centre.

    Hurley’s on Crescent (just below St. Catherine’s) or McKibbin’s on Bishop (below de Maisonneuve) are two good Irish pubs with food.

    If you’re staying downtown, there’s a decent watering-hole called McLean’s on Peel. Stay away from the Peel Pub, they recycle their beer.

    Any spot is good on Crescent street if you’re looking for partying with out-of-towners, and if you want something a bit hipper (and cheaper) head to the Plateau. Metro Mont-Royal, and there are lots of cool spots round there.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  53. rocketsglare says:

    Pittsburgh plays tonight against TB and will travel to Montreal to play a very well rested Habs team tomorrow

    night. The Habs need to come out with the same energy and intensity that they had against Atlanta and attack

    the Pens with their puck movement and speed, while clamping down on Crosby and Malkin. They seem to play

    well against the Pens and hopefully tomorrow night will be no different. A win against the Pens will add confi-

    dence and momentum that hopefully will launch this team’s drive to regain the Northeast Division and top bill-

    ing in the Eastern Conference. Let’s do it boys!

    Go Habs Go!

  54. Bill says:

    I checked the article and he really, really can’t. You can tell some editor struggled with that one.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  55. J_P says:

    Complaining that other people are going to complain before they actually complain is even more ridiculous lol

    PJ Stock is a blowhard. He says things just for the sake of stirring the pot. When he used to be on team 990, I never actually believed that he actually believed half the BS that came out of his mouth.

  56. Mattyleg says:

    Intreresting, but apart from the first couple of picks, the draft is a crap-shoot, as we all know.

    But yes, we did suck through that period.

    Strangely enough, it’s exactly the period I was living in Europe: ’95-’05.


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  57. Mattyleg says:

    Love that 1937 video on the other thread. Dark Team vs. Dark Team. Damn, it was fast as hell! We can see how much people have grown in the past 70-some-odd years, as our current players fill up the rink significantly more than they did in the past. Yet another reason we should increase the size of the ice-surface. Open the game up a bit, while avoiding serious injuries.

    Oh, and in other news, I had the Caps-TB game on in the background last night, and the second (third?) string RDS commentators were absolutely fycking TERRIBLE. Annoyingly so. Just brutal. All they did was talk-talk-talk, no real commentary, no play-by-play, and anytime anything happened, the announcer would shout: “hold on! Look out!” and commentate the goalie covering the puck after a chance.

    Eesh. Let’s hope Pierre never gets sick.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  58. dicktracy says:

    I was given a dvd of the Canada-USSR 1972 series CBC documentary. While I am enjoying it I would also love to watch the entire series replay.

    Does anyone here know if the original game tapes are available for purchase?

  59. HabFarmer says:

    ……. “is bond” :-)

    Now I gotta do some work.

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  60. Omit says:


    The article shocked me.  I didn’t think PJ Stock knew how to write.

  61. habs03 says:

    That whole era under Houle was horrible, lol at Jason Ward, at one point he lead the AHL in points and looked like he would have a decent NHL future. I think the organaztion improved as a whole when Andre Savard become GM, I think one of his first moves was trading away Linden, Zubrus and a 2nd for Zednik,Bulis and a 1st, worked out pretty well for us.

  62. adam76 says:

    club downtown.

  63. HabFarmer says:

    It’ll be what it’ll be then.  I’m talking about the game, and the way it’s been messed with.  Not my favourite team.

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  64. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t think PJ is complaining about the lack of French talent, so much as warning  that others will complain if the Habs do poorly this year. (I agree with you about Saku – there was a minority of criticism).

    The way I would see it though is the Canadiens should be tapping into Quebec hockey more assiduously, not (only) for marketing reasons, but for sound hockey reasons. The fact that few Quebec players get drafted high these days is an opportunity. With better scouting they should be uncovering the hidden gems that other teams are missing. Players like Maxime Talbot for example.


  65. adam76 says:

    The “loser” point maybe the only reason Montreal makes the playoffs this year.

  66. HabFarmer says:

    Man, I hate the loser point.  The game is worth two points – you win it you get two points, you lose it, you get nada. 

    Make it so (again please).

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  67. Julie H says:

    Where in Montreal will you be staying? Near the Bell centre (I’m assuming by your words you will be at the second game) there are a variety of Resto’s and bars dedicated to the Habs.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    A  special place to eat is Au Pied de Cochon, because it’s unlike most other restaurants and very typically Quebecois.

    The best place to have breakfast in Montreal is L’Avenue on Mont-Royal.

    There are tons of other restaurants you can read about on



  69. adam76 says:

    The Russian Goalie Dive vs Finland, anyone have the video?

  70. HabFanSince72 says:

    Just to pass the time … (or: why we sucked from the mid nineties to the mid noughties)

    Year / Draft Position / Pick / Who we could have had instead (must be within 10 picks of ours)

    1990 12. Turner Stevenson / Martin Brodeur

    1991 17. Brent Bilodeau / Glen Murray

    1992 20. David Wilkie / Boris Mironov (no one good that year)

    1993 21. Saku Koivu / No one better

    1994 18. Brad Brown / No one really until later (Patrick Elias, Chris Drury)

    1995 8. Terry Ryan / Jarome Iginla

    1996 18. Matt Higgins / Daniel Briere

    1997 11. jason Ward / Marian Hossa

    1998 16. Eric Chouinard / Simon Gagné, Scott Gomez

    1999 (no pick)


  71. dleb84 says:

    Hey Everyone,

    I’m travelling from NB to catch the next 2 games.

    I don’t know Montreal and was wondering if you guys had some tips on where to go before the games, after the games, best places to eat/drink etc. 

  72. joshua94k says:

    Beware this Saturday night on HNIC. PJ Stock will rant on about the Habs having no French Canadian identity. His recent article shows he is out of touch with hockey issues and has no business belonging in the media. He equates a couple of journalists with half the province of Quebec who felt Saku Koivu didn’t deseve to be captain of the Canadiens because he didn’t speak French. The fact is a large majority of Quebecois loved      Koivu because he played with heart, showed up every game and did a lot for the community.

    Stock finds the recent trade of Lapierre alarming as Darche is the only Quebec player left. What he fails to realize is the French Canadian talent has been in the decline for awhile around the NHL. The Canadiens have to put the best team on the ice, no matter where they come from. He fails to point out that Briere and Lecavalier have said they preferred not to play in Montreal.

    What about the recent addition of Desharnais and future prospect Leblanc? If there is a French Canadian talent, the Habs would love to have them on the team. But he fails to mention how recent additions of Halpern, Wisniewski and Pacioretty have helped the team.

    Like Ken Dryden said, the Canadiens will have to decide if they want a good team or a French Canadian team. I think GM Gauthier wants a good team and has done a good job thus far with Price, Plekanec, and the recent additions.

    Here is the link to the article by PJ Stock.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  73. says:

    No shoot out.

    No single point.

    OT decides the game, no ties.  Strongest team wins (strength and discipline).

    They Call Me Shane

  74. Bill H says:

    I was reading an article at Hockey Buzz about the Olympic 3 point system of awarding 3 points per game.  As others have done in the past, the writer advocates for the same system to be used in the NHL.  I agree with the reasoning stated in the article.  Unfortunately, I don’t see it being used in the NHL.  The current system keeps teams bunched up in the standings, and it keeps bad teams in contention for a playoff spot right up until the last few games.  By keeping bad, undeserving teams in contention, fans keep buying tickets and hoping their team will make the cut.  Of course the other result is both teams playing for the tie in the third period, which guarantees 1 point each, with a shot at 2 in overtime.

    I know this has been discussed before, but how do folks feel about the current system?


  75. The Cat says:

    Im happy for Roloson. Thats a great pickup for Tampa Bay. They now must be considered a serious threat to go all the way.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  76. PrimeTime says:

    Team Defense wins championships……….Tampa is not there this year.

  77. jimmy shaker says:

    A serious threat not just because of Roloson but because of MAB!


  78. Dave Stubbs says:

    Love that Roloson still has his old paint job on his mask, suggesting the Capitals were blanked by the Lightning and the Islanders on the same night.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
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  79. Mike D says:

    I agree that it’s a very good pickup for them, but I don’t think that move vaults them to cup-favourite status.

    I wonder if they still would have made that move if Leighton had been placed on waivers a day or two earlier.

    – Honestly yours

  80. Mike D says:

    You’re being sarcastic…..right?

    – Honestly yours

  81. jimmy shaker says:

    Just ruffling some feathers on a few haters of MAB on here.  I think Tampa will be very good by both their additions but a contender, I don’t see it.  I’m just a little ruffled still myself in seeing MAB on another team.  Now I have to give up my MAB presidency of his fan club to Hector Bolton of Tampa Bay inside out and outside in fan forum!


  82. matraque says:

    Maybe, but one thing for sure… MAB will end the season with more goals then PK and Weber combined.


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  83. Julie H says:

    Of course Price is going to say he’s not tired: if he admits to something like that, he’ll be pulled and benched and then we’ll be in worse shape than we were before.

    On a sadder note: Tony Proudfoot is being laid to rest today. I’d like to wish his family strength in their time of grief. RIP Tony 1949-2010

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  84. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Watching the Bolts/Caps game last night, I was really impressed by how Ste. Guy De Boucher has risen this Lightning team from the ashes. Ageless Ste. Dorothee, Laval native (had to throw that in) is spectacular to watch. Why can’t our wingers be that way. Lecavalier is playing with a vengeance we haven’t seen since he scored 52 goals way back 3 seasons ago. Except now he’s throwing his once fragile body around and knocking off opposing players. Stamkos. Well, what can we say about the second or third best player in the league at only 20 years old. How is it that a Florida team can pick itself up from oblivion and be amongst the “elite” teams of the NHL? And our beloved Canadiens keep dredging along in mediocrity year after year? We seem to lack “spark” or a “sense of urgency” when we play. Something that teams like the Pens, Caps or even the Lightning refuse to seep into their game. I may be wrong, but I believe the Habs need a coach like Boucher, Torts, et al to light the fire. Looking at Martin’s coaching style induces sleep. He’s a dinosaur that needs to be relieved of his duties.

  85. PrimeTime says:

    Teams are never as good as their winning streaks or as bad as their losing streaks. Tampa an “elite team”?? Maybe some day, but not yet.

  86. Julie H says:

    Martin’s reactions after losing games have escalated. Hard practices, gym all day, skating drills all day. Not eveyone responds well to being chastized, criticized, yelled at and/or humiliated. The Habs haven’t responded 100% the way JM wants them to no matter which method he uses but that doesn’t mean he needs to go all psycho coach on them.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  87. JF says:

    Coaching is less of a problem for the Habs than lack of scoring.  Our top scorers are on pace for between 20 and 30 goals each (at most).  Our bottom two lines chip in with a few goals here and there, but we rarely score more than three goals a game, which means most games will be close and will be won or lost depending on goaltending and defence.  For the last few weeks our goaltending has been subpar and our defence, with the injury to Gorges, was a shambles until the arrival of the Wiz.  During the road trip, the intensity was lacking some of the time, but the last couple of games we’ve played much better, and should definitely have won on Sunday. The sense of urgency was certainly there, the scoring chances were there.  We didn’t capitalize on enough of them and our goaltending was not good.

    People like to bemoan the loss of Boucher, and there is always criticism of JM when we lose, but I’m not sure that a different coach would have this team winning more often without great goaltending and solid defence. We just don’t score enough.  The Lightning were winning even before they got Roloson and even though their defence is not great, because they score a lot of goals.  Now they’ll win more, but I don’t think they’re Cup contenders yet. 


  88. HabFanSince72 says:

    Something that teams like the Pens, Caps or even the Lightning refuse to seep into their game.

    How did they get the top draft picks that turned them into contenders, if not by sucking for years?


  89. Mike Boone says:

    I thought Stamkos had an off-game last night. As to spark and/or sense of urgency, that might have something to do with the number of blue-chip, Top Five draft choices suiting up for the Lightning, Caps and Pens. As sure as night follows day, mid-round draft choices = mid-level team (and I’ll concede Detroit is an exception).

  90. Mark C says:

    A few things about Tampa, it just took them an 8-1-1 run to finally get their goal differential to zero. After a team’s record, goal differential is the most important stat in hockey. In the past 10 season only a dozen negative goal differential teams have made the playoffs.  

    One reason their record is so good while their goal differential is so weak (relative), is that they have had a few real stinkers, a 0-6 loss to Florida, 1-5 to Pitts, 0-6 to Wash, 1-8 to Boston! For all the talk of Boucher’s new-skool, player motivation and up-tempo game I find it odd that in 10% of their games they’ve lost by 4 goals or more (Montral has no loses of more than 3 goals).  

    Tampa lives and dies with Stamkos and St. Louis’ scoring, 39% of the team’s goals have been scored by these two. Montreal gets 26% of their goals from their top two scorers.  

    I don’t mean to take anything away from what they’re doing in Tampa, they are clearly turning that ship around.  I would argue that after Crosby, Stamkos is the single most important players to his team. Had Stamkos suffered Markov’s fate, we’d likely be talking about how Tampa was in line to receive another lottery pick.   

  91. shuttle-lemaire-lafleur says:

    If Canada plays that physical style against the Russians and the refs let these guys play the game the way it is supposed to be played we will come away with Gold.The Russians will be a very good opponent and I think it will be a close game when all is said and done, Looking forward to an exciting game. Go Canada !!

  92. ProHabs says:

    Anyone else starting to feel a little nervous about the play of Price. He is starting to look like he did last year. Lets hope he get back the form he was showing the first 2 months of the season.

  93. Julie H says:

    Anyone else starting to feel a little nervous about the fact that: if Price doesn’t pull up his socks and play how he was playing at the beginning of the season, our season might go down the drain due to the lack of a consistent back-up goaltender?

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  94. Graves says:

    Personally, I’m more worried about the fact that Price seemingly has to be perfect for the team to have a shot.

  95. says:


    Every single team/player in the NHL goes through what the Habs are going through right now.  Only difference is that Montreal fans can’t understand that. 

    It’s a big old circle.  Montreal wins, JM is awesome, Price is the world’s greatest goalie, and we have the best players ever.  Montreal loses, and then others come out. Trash the team, the org, and make up excuses or voice what they think is right.

    I say. Simmer down :)  They (the org) know when it’s time to replace player A.  They know when they are in trouble, and they know when to take the advice of HIO members……never hehe wink wink.

    “I definitely feel I have more to bring,” he said. “(But) I feel the
    exact same way I did for the first 20 games. I’m sure all it will take
    to get back is a solid period, a solid win.”

    Carey gets it.   He’s down there, On the ice, in the dressing room, and hanging out with his team. 

    There’s a huge difference between talking hockey and knowing hockey.  I see a whole lotta talk here haha.


    They Call Me Shane

  96. Propwash says:

    There’s two sides to the coin, the defence in front of Price has been faltering and making bad mistakes.  Sure, bad goals were let in, but show me one goalie in the league that doesn’t allow bad goals from time to time.



    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  97. jimmy shaker says:

    I just want him to stop a breakaway now and again.  Anytime it’s 1 on 1 with Carey I get up and leave the room to get another bevy and do some calisthenics to regroup as I wait for Pierre to give the call of “eh le but”


  98. adam76 says:

    Only his one one one play worries me.  

  99. HabsFanInTampa says:

    “The Habs haven’t responded 100% the way JM wants them to no matter which method he uses”. That is exactly why we need to replace him, he doesn’t garner respect. As for the second part of your stetement, nobody said to go all “psycho coach” on the players. Just to light a fire using the method more in tune to what Boucher is doing and less in tune to what Torts has done.

  100. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Excuse me, was I talking to you, JF?!?!? Just kidding! Good response. :)

  101. krob1000 says:

    But most who are criticizicing Martin are blaming the lack of offense on coaching.  Our best scorers are used in penalty kill situations (why did we sign Haplern and not Moore then? Why is Pyatt a Hab? these guys are perfectly suited ffor the pk, Moen too), they are over committed defensively, our younger guys who are scorers are looking oer their shoulders knowing if they take a chance they get benched.  You are right withut scoring we do not win…sow hat have we done to address the scoring…how about bre3aking up every line that papears to work, consistently playing Pleks, Gio and Gomez on the pk….for what the threat of a shorthanded goal every ten games? Halpern, Pyatt, Moen,etc these guys can all kill penalties….and leave our scorers with gas in the tank for when they can use it. What about Pouliot, PK and Andrei….three keys to this team for me….when each appeared to have a home and be playing well things got broken up to accomodate Gomez or Mike Richards?…now Gomez is playing the best of the bunch…but at what expense? T

    hese are all coaching issues….and scoring issues…but I am blaming one for the other…..I wll say though that I liked what I saw the last two games…and JM has taken the leash off guys a bit or so it appeared….and guys looked happy again….and looked enthused. For the bazillionth time…I think Jacques offers a lot….but I think every once in a while he needs a slap from Kirk or someone to say JAcques…you’re stifling them…..back off….they get the defense thing. It is draining, boring, and simply not effective without offense and he appears to smother them at times….like you said to win tight low scoring games with our group unless a lot of other variables are in place…..while UI think having better offense,  alleviates pressure fromthe d and more importantly Price……the poor guy plays every game like it is sudden death overtime…because as long as we are so committed to defense and refuse to take chances to score on other guys who are also pros and paid to stop them……every second of every game is sudden death…we need to get goals flowing…then we can go back to nitpicking here and there but for the  most part JM did what he was supposed to…we are a top defensive team….diff is I believe we still can be….and score….

  102. JF says:

    I agree with a lot of what you say.  JM broke up lines that were scoring, and he over-uses some of our scorers on the PK.  But we also seem to need many more scoring chances to get one goal than some other teams do.  We create a lot of chances, but we seem to miss most of them, not usually through the opposing goaltender robbing us but through simply missing or fanning on the shot.  When we absolutely need a goal, more often than not we can’t buy one, although the chances are there.  In the game against Colorado, for example, we dominated the third period and created a ton of great chances, but kept missing.  That’s why we have so much trouble coming back in games.  However, in the last two games we did come back (as well as in the game against Carolina), so maybe that’s starting to change.  I’m sure part of it is confidence, and when the team is playing well, the guys have more confidence.  We played well the last two games, so confidence should be on the rise…

  103. Omit says:

    JM rotates 4 pairs of forwards on the PK with short shifts for one simple reason.  It’s to keep them in the flow of the game.  You don’t want the players that you listed on the bench going cold, especially when you are taking a lot of penalties. Besides, they are very good defensively and are capable of scoring the odd goal.

  104. krob1000 says:

    while that sounds great in theory…it is 2 minutes….you come back with the top two lines following the 2 minute pp and gain back momentum or take advantage of the fact the other teams top players will have just played on the PP.  And in a perfect penalty kill we get 4 short shifts….in other cases where the other team has even a mildly effective PP one duo gets stuck in our zone for a minute or often more….in a defensive posture and having to be very active, changing direction,etc.  There is a time and place in if it is a case where we get a major/double minor,etc  or whatever or we have been taking a ridiculous amount of penalties than your theory may hold water…as is….he just likes playing them because they are our best penalty killers…becuase they are our best players.  But they are our best players so I think they are better served playing at optimal level against other teams at 5 0n 5 or on the pp…maybe the occasional pk.

  105. Omit says:

    Special units play a very important part in today’s game, and we do have one of the best PKs in the league.  So we are doing something right. These players are not playing crazy minutes per game, so I don’t think it hurts them at all. As long as the bench is managed properly, it’s not a problem.

    Besides, if they were capitalizing on their scoring chances and winning games, there would be no discussion about this or JM’s “system”. At least there were not any when we were winning games.  Now that they have hit a rough patch, fans want to dissect the so-called problems. Well, they had a rough December schedule and went into a slump, but I think they will be just fine.  We’ll have to wait and see. 

  106. krob1000 says:

    we have the best pk in the league..but we are not good at 5 on 5 I would sacrificea few percentage points on the pk to improve our 5 on 5. You mention flow…well when do the depth guys get tehir minutes….what about their flow …they may be the ones who actually need it since they do not see pp time.  I also don’t think we do enough changing to  avoid matchups…other teams get guys off the ice and paly chess with us to avoid matchups….I never see us do that.   The minutes per game aren’t as important as the quality of those minutes…second wave pp is nowhere near as valuable as first wave as the change means the puck is starting behind your own net likely,etc.  I think Halpern, Pyatt, Moen,etc can handle themselves on the Pk personally.  As for the3 scoring chances we are missing….those could very well be attributed to fatigue which is enough to ruin a chance….it could also be that they are overthinking knowing that chances are ahrd to come by in our gameplan and when they get on they blow it.  I haven’t seen this many empty nets missed since Robert Lang. Special teams do play an integral part….but so does 5 on 5 and so does momentum.  I don;t doubt we will be fine…but I want better and I beleive we are either one forward ort a simultaneous awakening of Pouliot, Andrei and Max P from being a legit contender.  I think Martin took defensive lemons and made fantastic defensive lemonade….but we had some pretty sweet offensive iced tea and it is quickly being turned it to that unsweetened american crap. 

    I liked what I saw the last two and the first half of this season was great…but I do recall Halpern, Moen and even Pyatt playing pk back then…I also remember Andrei, PK and POuliot all being key contributors.  when the game becomes as simple as shutting down Gio, Cammi and Pleks….we get into trouble……the key seems to be balance, comfort, aggression, confidence and and attck focussed game with JM’s defensive flavour…not the opposite.  We got 3 points and should have had 4 in our last 2…it wasn’t due to our stellar defense…we attacked, Pk was unleashed, Pouliot and Andrie looked like they cared, Cammi was himself again,etc.  Too much of one thing is never a good thin g…whether it be defesne or offense…..JM needs to find balance as I believe he swung the pendulum too far one way…..

  107. Omit says:

    I did say that JM rotates 4 pairs of forwards, so Pyatt et al obviously play the PK.

    You are attributing our offensive production to an unleashing of the players and I couldn’t disgree more with you or anyone else that says this.  The players dictate the flow of the game, not the coaches. When you have the puck, you try and score.  When the other team has the puck, you defend. It is the team that does both things combined that will be usually successful. Hockey is not rocket science. It is a simple game. 

  108. krob1000 says:

    how many pk’s result in 4 pairs? only the succesful ones….and I could not disagree more…I am always mroe tired after a PK…these are not robots theya re people…they get tired. When we hve the puck trya nd score…yup…that should be it but instead it is “get it deep”, “cycle the puck”,etc…then one lone ranger goes to the net and everyoneint he arena sees it coming…and to our surprise he is stopped? Hockey is not rocket science…and should be gkept simple…this is the oppostie of what JM does…he makes them focus on the tiniest of details…only defensively….he benches player for a simple turnover…especially if they had the puck and were trying to score. Coaching should be simple to…you can;t have a rocket scientist try and teach the ABC’s.  IF we kept it simple I think we would be further ahead…and that may very well have been the recent message delivered as it appeared that is what we did…but that is the furtheset thing from the message these guys have been given…the onlymessage was “don’t be scored on”…..that is too much pressure on the D and Price, too much emphasis at one end…there are two ends….how many breakaways do we get that are not on a PK…do we ever have a guy cheat leaving our end or are they terrified? how often do we even get odd man rushes? you say tomato I say tuhmawto….I guess but I see things very differently than you do and I wish didn;t…many on here have tried to convince me otherwise but until my own eyes see what we did the last two games continue…I will be very, very skeptical.

  109. Omit says:

    The Habs have far more successful PKs than not, so I guess the 4 pairs play more often than not.

    If you look after the small details properly, it’s an awfully good start.

    All teams try to get it deep and cycle the puck when it is all the other team is giving them.

    Martin, and most coaches, benches players who repeatedly commit the same mistakes and won’t listen.

    Martin is not a rocket scientist.

    When a team loses the puck, you go into D mode and cover your man or a zone.  This applies to every player.

    Sorry about the spacing, but I am attempting to make my post appear as long as yours. :)

  110. Mike Boone says:

    Maybe not. But based on what I saw last night, Hedman is going to be special.

  111. 24 Cups says:

    Tampa also drafted Brett Connolly (6th) last summer.  He’s injury prone but he also has star potential in terms of his upside.  He’s playing for Canada tonight and was the guy who made that perfect pass for Canada’s 2nd goal on Monday.  Stamkos/Connolly may well eventually become the new version of Vinny/St Louis.  Hedman becomes the main building block on the defense.  Once you have those guys in place, the rest becomes a lot easier.

    Successful teams are centered around building blocks.  Core players who become the foundation of the team for many years. 

    Our only building block was Markov and now he no longer is able to take on that role.  In a perfect world, Subban and Price will mature into building blocks for us.  If they don’t, then there won’t be another Cup in Montreal for a long time.

  112. ManApart says:

    With Pierre, Bob and the gang at the helm, there will not be a Cup for a long time. Hell, it’s already been 7 years. Fire them and you’re at least heading in the right direction.

  113. Exit716 says:

    It’s a five year rebuilding plan..But it wasn’t specified if that’s human years or dog years. If it’s human years, Gainey’s projection was way off. If it’s dog years, we have another 26 years to wait.


  114. adamkennelly says:

    I think JM is an average coach at best – he seems to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.  listen to Dan Bylsma – he states that the Penguins will dictate the level of physicality in any game they play – JM says – boys – whomever we are playing, whether it be at home or on the road – they are going to determine how this game is played…if our PP and PK are going we may win – if they are not, good chance we lose and maybe someone gets hurt…any questions?

    I am pretty sure there are 26 teams in the league with more PIMs and Fighting Majors than the Habs now – opponents know they can instill their will on our team – that is not hockey and its embarassing to me as a Habs fan.


  115. mrhabby says:

    Pens can dictate the  physicality of the game due to the type of players they have.  JM does not have this luxury…its quite simple we have a smallish top 6. our game is about speed not forecheck and down low presence that bigger teams have.

  116. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I agree with you both: Mid level draft picks = mid level team. And we need to suck for several years to build a true cup contender due to the high draft picks. So, why can’t we replicate what Detroit does? In a nutshell, what is it that they do?

  117. Mark C says:

    For the most part Detroit lives off their core players that were drafted in the late 1999’s and early 2000’s. They do a good job in supplementing their core with solid role players. For the most part Detroit has not drafted an impact player to their roster since the 2003 and 2004 drafts (Howard and Franzen).

  118. Geoff Molson says:

    Detroit had superior European scouting ten to fifteen years ago and came up with the gems other teams didn’t know about.  Since they drafted their core, they’ve been trading picks away in deals for rentals and support players to keep them competitive.  They’ll be paying the price for that when the inhuman Lidstrom retires and Zetterberg, Holmstrom and Datsyuk get older.

  119. HabFanSince72 says:

    Detroit got lucky with Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

    I mean, they also didn’t rate them that highly if they waited till the late rounds to choose them.

  120. 24 Cups says:

    The WJC is basically a four team tournament with the Czech Republic and Finland added as cannon fodder. As Canadians, we all love this event as it’s become an extension of the holiday season. The tournament has become a tradition that is the first great competition of the calendar year.  It’s usually stacked in our favour, but no matter what, we’ll all be glued to our entertainment centres tonight.

    The Glass Half Full

    – realistically, this is a home game for Canada. They get to play on the smaller ice surface in front of a crowd that will be acting as a magical 7th player. Home ice can be overrated in the NHL, but not in this case. Playing in Buffalo, Ontario will be a huge boost tonight.

    – Mark Visentin (3-0/1.00/.961) may have turned Canada’s greatest weakness into an area of strength. Jack Campbell and Robin Lehner were labeled as the kingpins but both are now missing from the final. A few timely stops at he beginning of the game should put Visentin in the groove to help keep Canada in the game. His puck-handling skills also give Canada a huge advantage at getting the puck out of their own end.

    – one of the main complaints regarding this team was the fact that they didn’t have any real stars or sharpshooters. Brayden Schenn aside, players such as Hamilton, Johansen and Leblanc can all score timely goals. The four lines are well balanced and a few guys such as Connolly and Eakin are ready to break out.


    The Glass Half Empty

    – Martin Franco and Jari Levonen allowed Canada to play a tough, hard-hitting North American styled game. If tonight’s officials call a different game, Canada will lose it’s main tactical advantage and run the risk of taking too many penalties.

    – not many fans have ever heard of Russian goalie, Dmitri Shikin, but he’s the main reason that the Russians beat Sweden. He stopped 46 shots as he didn’t fold when the pressure was on in the 3rd period.  Not to mention that he was perfect in the shoot-out.  Every minute that goes by in a tie game tonight increases the chances of this guy stealing the limelight.

    – the Russian coaching staff seem to be utilizing a team first mentality. There’s a lot less of the showboating and one-on-one upmanship. They skate, hit and forecheck just like a Canadian team. The Russian squad is a tight knit unit that is mostly from the KHL system. There are no Yashins on Team Russia. Canada beat the US because the Americans stopped skating after being out-hit. The Russians won’t quit as witnessed by their heroic finish against Sweden. Vladimir Tarasenko, Yevgeni Kuznetsov and Maxim Kitsyn are the guys everyone talks about but I feel that Dmitri Orlov (#9) is the player to watch. He’s a Dman who plays like a rover and is all over the ice. Jared Cowen and Calvin de Haan are susceptible to outside speed so that has to be an area of concern against the quick Russians. In many ways, Orlov is the Russian version of PK Subban.

  121. HabFanSince72 says:

    Mark Visentin has a tenuous Hab connection.

    Pheonix drafted him with our pick (which we exchanged in order to get Tinordi).


  122. zak says:

    DoesnT help when you can’t make good midlevel picks.If we had a guy with 30 goals and he had an off night I wouldn’t even mention it.

  123. twocents says:

    If we had a guy with 30 goals right now, he wouldn’t be a mid-level pick.

  124. HabFanSince72 says:

    Philly is another team that has managed to build a contender without top draft picks (except for Van Riemsdyk).

    And before someone mentions Boston, they will always suck no matter how they look on paper or during the regular season.

  125. Jordio-oh says:

    True say, if you’re considering top 5 draft picks selected by Philly themselves.

    Here’s an interesting thing about Philly: They have 11 first round selections on their team.

    Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Claude Giroux, Daniel Briere, Scott Hartnell, James Van Riemsdyk, Chris Pronger, Nik Zheredev, Andrej Mezaros, Braydon Coburn, Brian Boucher

    And three second rounders: Matt Carle, Blair Betts, Andreas Nodl

    They must be among the leaders in the league for having first round choices on their team. And for the most part, the 1st rounders aren’t busts either. (Note: Zheredev and Boucher are definitely debatable).  

  126. 24 Cups says:

    Careful, Paul.  There are some guys on this site who feel that 2nd round picks are a waste of time.

    The odds certainly drop but every once in awhile you hit paydirt with a kid like Subban, Stastny, Weber or Lucic.

    You can’t win the lottery without a ticket.

  127. jimmy shaker says:

    Present:  Ryan Miller and Jonas Hiller

    Past:  Allan Bester


  128. Jordio-oh says:

    I did a little digging to confirm your Hiller assertion and it seems you’re right.

    And when i say ‘digging’ I mean search for youtube clips and his individual game statistics over his career. Hiller rarely seems to get blown out, and when he does, it is because the team in front of him let 40+ shots on goal. The only evidence I could find even remotely suggesting Hiller let in some softies is in Nov/08 when he let in 3 goals on his first 6 shots against the Capitals and got yanked. You would think it was safe to assume at least one or two were dirty goals, but then you notice 2 of those were power play goals scored by the best offence in the league.

    So kudos on laying out a solid example like that.

  129. ZepFan2 says:

    Miller doesn’t give up bad goals?



    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  130. habs001 says:

    this team is still building for the next 2 to 3 years…even the most ardent habs fan would have to admit that if the current line up won the cup it would be one of the weakest and least talented cup winners ever. lets be happy with making the playoffs and maybe winning a couple of rounds and have some of our younger talent develop….when we get beat in the playoffs it will not be because of price but he will get blamed for it …it will be because we will score on average 2 goals per game in that series….unless we add some scoring or one of our call ups becomes a scorer this line up will struggle to score …our best goal scorers are the streaky type so you cannot know will they be hot for 10 games in the playoffs or not even score a goal…again as i have said many times now ,the veteran players in our line up are basically scoring goals at the pace they have scored all their careers unless some become suddenly overachievers our goal scoring problems will not get much better…

  131. TomNickle says:

    The Anaheim Ducks won the Cup with two good defensemen a hot goalie and four skilled forwards.

    The Devils did it with two of our veterans being their most skilled players(arguably).

    Carolina wasn’t exactly overflowing with talent when they won it.

    It’s about getting hot at the right time, not about who has the most talent.

  132. patience is a virtue says:

    I agree with this assessment.  Eller, Max Pac, Subban, Weber – if these rookies mature into the point getting NHLers they might become the next few seasons, the Habs have a recipe for the a Cup or two 2012-2014: cheap hot young guns + playoff proven veteran leadership.  G&G, Pleks and Cam are all young enough to do it.  We just found out who helps fill in at D in the post-Hammer era (The Wiz!). 

    The big question is whether Markov can come back to lead the charge!  Hard to see going all the way without him.  

  133. PeterD says:

    I agree with you …we are still building a team for the next 2 to 3 years…a problem I see is that we have several long term contracts that swallow our salary cap (Gomez of rone) that adds some value but limits the teams development and introduction of talented youth.

    If Gomez is one of top line Centers for the next 4 years…how does the youth fit into the line up other than as 3rd 4th line centers in checking roles?

  134. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Building a good team is no guarantee of a future cup. A lot of unforeseen variables can come into play. Many cup winners go out at the trade deadline and get the players to put them over the top.

    Carolina in ’06 was a prime example when they picked up Weight, Recchi and Babchuk. We on the other hand picked up Todd Simpson.

    We’ve made a good start picking up Wiz. A couple more moves could put us in a place to win it all now.

  135. patience is a virtue says:

    I’m optimistic for these crucial next 5 games against 3 tough opponents. 4/5 at home following some much needed rest and practice; Gionta and Gomez have stepped it up; Cammy is due, as are Poo and Eller (I like Darche-Eller-Poo as a 3rd line); and the Wiz helps fill Markov’s offensive role on D – he ranks 12th for Dman points in the league!

    Two big question marks for me:

    Can Carey get back down to playing in the 2.2-2.4 GAA range (not exceptional, but very good – good enough to win 70-80% of our games)?

    Will Max Pac’s confidence remain high/will he put up the points/can he become one of the big go-to-the-net wingers we need on the top six?




  136. PeterD says:

    Carey needs some rest…to stay sharp physically and mentally…I think Auld needs to play at least every third game from here on …then Carey sharp for hte play-off run.

    If the team rides Carey for the second half the way they rode him hte first half he will be mentally exhausted before we even hit the play offs…that just ain’t right to treat the kid that way.  If Auld isn’t good enough to carry more games then we shouldn’t have signed him…I think he is good enough to take a serious load off Carey’s shoulders for awhile.

    I hope MaxPac can become that power forward go to the net guy we need…but we need guys like AK to wake the f**k up and start playing consistently…it really hurts the team when a llineor two play with a whole in it where a player is not competing with the rest of the line…might as well be shorthanded.

  137. Graves says:

    So…anybody think I should grab Bergeron off waivers in my pool for the power play points?

  138. kempie says:

    You don’t get penalized for goals he gives up, so yeah, I would. He’ll rack up some points for sure.

  139. patience is a virtue says:

    Fair enough Tom, but isn’t a talented, well balanced team with good coaching (Chicago, Pittsburgh, Detroit, New Jersey (talented + excellent coaching), Edmonton, NYI, Montreal, etc) a better bet for the Cup?

  140. habs001 says:

    our forward scorers can score 8 goals in 10 games but they can also score 1 in 15…too many of our forwards are inconsistent..that is why it would be no suprise to win a few rounds or get beaten out in the first round vs virtually any team in the nhl

  141. PeterD says:

    When I think of cup contenders I think of the Habs of hte 70’s, the Islanders of hte ’80’s and the Oilers of the ’90’s…balanced, high skilled, complete teams with great coaching and some premier stars…all playing with pride and passion to win every game…from starat of the season to the end.

    I did not see many players on thise teams that floated the first half of the season and found their legs in the second half or only showed up for a play-off run…

    My hope for hte Habs every season is that they put together a roster and coaching staff that plays with heart and passion every single game from start to finish of the season…a team that look sstanley cup bound in October thru May…floating should never be tolerated.

    We see a lot of comments here nad in the media that this player or that player needs to get out of ther funk and start competing , or they are tired, or they need a different winger…I say if that is the case…fix the issue, trade, promote, demote or sit int he box…but never allow status quo do nothing to settle in…this franchise has such a sotried past that every single player coming into the dressing room every day needs to wear that history and pride on their heart or get the hell out of the room.

  142. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Anaheim Ducks won the Cup with two good defensemen a hot goalie and four skilled forwards.

    And Gary Bettman in their corner.


  143. joeybarrie says:

    WOW, hey why don’t we GET SMART and trade away all our players who have won the Stanley Cup????

    We picked up some experienced veteran talent that all play specific key roles and we want to trade them because why??? We were not happy with the unexpected run in the playoffs?

    I mean, do we not remember the TALENTED players we did have that did absolutely NOTHING in the playoffs?

    Hal Gill played 20 minutes a game in the last playoffs that he won the Stanley Cup.

    Travis Moen got 2nd line minutes when he last won his Stanley Cup

    Gomez’ last won the cup in 2003, so I wont include his numbers as it was 8 years ago, BUT even on the Rangers he was getting top minutes and among the top in points. He is getting paid too much, HOWEVER his points are not far from Brian Gionta’s and of course the difference creates an albatross.

    Interesting stuff considering alot of people were screaming murder when we did not re-sign Kovy despite that fact his numbers were inferior to Gomez’. Also alot of people were bashing BG for signing Pleks to such a high contract despite his numbers. Now he is our best player, and he absolutely would have been running to the highest bidder if Bob had not of shown faith in him.

    It’s simple. If you score goals, you are a hero in Montreal. If not NO ONE KNOWS YOU. Look at Ryder. How crazy did some get on here when he went to Boston. He didn’t score. So no one heard anything after a few months. Just look at the fact that AK is a PLUS 9 and Gionta a MINUS 1. Gio has more goals, so everyone is all about dumping AK. No one recognizes that Gio is playing bigger minutes and is in more important situations. No one realizes that AK is floating around when Pleks and Cammi score.

    In tangibles. Or in other words, things a PROFESSIONAL knows that the average TV watcher does not. HONESTLY people really think they can do a better job than PG? Then why are you sitting on your couch. Get paid the millions of dollars that you SHOULD be making. Talk about being jaded….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  144. TripleX says:

    Correct me if I am wrong sir, but are you gainfully employed in some NHL profession?

    If not, then your opinions, and they are just opinions, carry no more or less weight than the rest of us amateurs. 

    Talk about hypocritical.




    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  145. Habnofear says:

    Jeebus Joey,now you think all Hab fans are stupid! Everyone knows we need baskets of goals to play in the NHL with all the parody in the league except you.And what is P.G.’s answer too the goal scorers SUCKING…Fire our best grinders who seem to score just as much! Relax bro……………..

  146. A. Berke says:

    Besides the fact that some of our expensive players have their names
    on the Cup, do you have an explanation why we are 24th among 30 teams
    in goals scored?

    What players/team/coach did last April is water
    under the bridge, that was then and this is now. Our playoff run of
    last year is not going to guarantee another one this year and at the
    current rate it’s looking somewhat doubtful that we’ll make it to the
    dance. IMO, no need to be gushing so much about these overpaid underachievers, Sorry!

    Just saying,

    Ali B.

  147. PeterD says:

    Hey Joey…I thought we are all talking hypotheically here, since none of us are NHL GM’s or Coaches…I simply wanted to get a good conversation going about how to improve this years team…our current roster is not living up to it’s potential, or maybe it really is playing to it’s potential…but the bottom line for me is that how they have been playing is just not good enough for a Montreal team or any team to be a serious cup contender.

  148. LA Loyalist says:

    We’re 3-6-1 in the last 10 games. Now that’s PROFESSIONAL!


    too soft, too small, too intangible


  149. Ian Cobb says:

    Your right Joey, there is a lot more to winning hockey than scoring goals. The goals will come, and we will peak at the right time of year for a great run.

  150. The Cat says:

    A cushy job in hockey is like any other 6 figure cushy job in the real world -who you know and who has your back is more important than what you know.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  151. anotherhab says:

    we need to get more production out of our 6 million$ man Cammy, I believe he’s averaged 2 shots per game in his last five  — pretty awful considering the PP and overall minutes he gets!  

  152. Ian Cobb says:

    He is pacing himself, just like most vets do during the season. He will be on fire when the play offs start.

  153. patience is a virtue says:

    double post

  154. patience is a virtue says:

    Introducing talented youth is cheap.  Our cap structure is tight, but fine – as long as AK doesn’t score 45 points in the second half (wouldn’t we love to have that problem on our hands!), we should be able to resign him for $3M or so per, plus Markov ($5M per?), Gorges ($2.75M per?) and the Wiz ($3.5M per?), with room to spare for 3rd and 4th liners + young talent.  Remember, Hammer’s $5.5M will be coming off the books.

    It is a bit of a dilemma about Eller not being able to move up as a top six centre for at least a few seasons… 

    Two scenarios:

    1) He centres a third line that scores and gets more ice time, and he eventually trades places with Gomez.

    2) He proves himself a bit more and gets traded in a package with AK for an elite winger.

  155. joeybarrie says:

    It’s funny, I was about to ask you almost the exact same thing…

    My issue is with people’s posts explaining how much better they are at making these decisions, despite their obvious lack of GM options…

    Im not saying my opinions carry more weight than other. Now if you want to talk about being correct… Thats a different story.

    I’ll end it with this. Everyone bashing Gomez seems to not understand what he brings to the team. So I guess his coaches, GM’s and the like over the years are idiots. Despite their inflated monetary contracts. (with Gomez 3rd round, without Gomez….UM NOPE.. With Gomez 68 wins 54 loses,  without 1-5… Without our winning percentage is 16%).

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  156. krob1000 says:

    what is the Lightnings record without Dominic Moore? what was their record last year…must be dominic moore and dominec moore alone…what is their record with Desjardins in net ..2-0 (100 percent)…blah, blah, blah.

  157. LA Loyalist says:

    Thank you. I was too stunned to explain statistical analysis and sample size….

  158. Mark C says:

    If you understand those concepts, how come for the past two days you’ve said no goalies can play 70+ games, and Montreal gives up tons of shots?

  159. joeybarrie says:

    I do have an answer. We play a defensive style game. I simply see that we play an entire season. Not just concentrate while we are on a slump. If I cared all that much about regular season wins compared to playoffs then I would be an excellent Capitals fans… But I want the Cup.

    We are obviously moving upwards in terms of the team and have been for 5-6 years. If it wasn’t for a ridiculous number of injuries last season then we would not have simply squeeked in to the playoffs.

    If the past is water under the bridge, then why are we even having this discussion, as we took 3 out of our last 4 points…. Our playoff run will not guarantee another, but having the same players give me a little more faith than not. I do not believe it was a fluke. We had some luck, but luck will only get you so far when you play 7 games. The difference in the East last season in wins, was 4…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  160. LA Loyalist says:

    um… in the NHL you have to actually make the playoffs. This “slump” may well cost us that opportunity, and we will have a long, long, long summer to toss around the fault ball and wonder if something might have been do-able back in December or January that would have turned us around.

    That’s why we are concerned.


  161. 24 Cups says:

    Clayton Stoner’s goal was the first of his NHL career. 

    Mike Boone never passes up a chance to use his favourite NHL moniker in a HI/O article.

  162. joeybarrie says:

    WHAT? NONE of us here are current GM’s??????  No you are correct. but my problem is how often I see it here. Bashing a player because someone offered him alot of money. For me there are probably about 25% of players out there who do not produce to their contracts. But that being said, its no reason to bash the player. I am about support, and I don’t like it when people take shots at players who play for my team. I don’t like it from opposing teams, and I don’t like it from my own team.

    If they play like this for the rest of the season, then we wont be in the playoffs, and we will some ALOT of moves. So far I cannot see any big errors in any deal the PG has done.

    You are on the right page when it comes to a conversation about how to improve the team. But I have seen so much of the same bashing in here, with little regard to reality. That I choose to support, and come to the defense of my players.

    You just get caught in a subject that is sung in here about 500 times a day. Its the same old thing. I should just ignore it, but it isn’t one of my strengths. Sorry to jump all over you, I have to say the posts are constructive and trying to improve the team.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  163. J_P says:

    You’re right, no player in their right mind would refuse a huge contract offer.  HOWEVER, the player did make a commitment to the team to produce at the level he is being paid.  If he isnt producing at that level, and is underperforming, criticism is fair game.

    No one should criticize Gomez and Cammy (who are underperforming) just because they got offered a contract? They should be getting even more criticism because they are making more money in one season than most of us will make in our lifetimes!

    Im sorry, but Gomez barely playing to the level of a $1 million dollar player isnt acceptable.  Cammy, who was signed on to be an offensive threat and sniper, getting off two shots a game is unacceptable.  These guys took the money.  If they didnt plan on producing to that level, they shouldnt have taken the money.  Signing a contract is a two way street.  The team makes the offer in the player in good faith that they will deliver.  These two guys just arent delivering, and are fair game when it comes to criticism. 

  164. PeterD says:

    To be clear…I do not bash players for their salary whether I think they deserve the money or not and that includes Gomez…I’m a capitalist thru and thru…I used to laugh and then get pissed at all the negativity that Eric Lindors drew from people that thought he was over paid.

    It is the GM’s around the league that get greedy and get into a feeding frenzy for the few talents available at Free agent time…if the money is not offered the player would accept a more reasonable amount…but hey, if I’m a player and someone offers me $7-10M per season and I think that’s insane, I am still going to sign for it and take it.

    My issue that I have been looking at is with the cap realities that we operate within, how does a team like that Habs improve it’s compete and talent level when we have a few high priced players that seem to be aging and declining in their effectiveness over a FULL season of games?

    In terms of some of the older players on the team that are getting closer to the end of their careers, they need to be moved before the end of the season through trades or we will likely let them walk on July 1st in order to ensure room for hte youth coming in behind.

    If we can move an asset and get in return sufficient value to improve this team now then I am all for it…nothing lasts forever, neither do our current players…

  165. Hobie Hansen says:

    Price can easily play 70 games. He’s in his early 20s for pete sakes. Non issue.  

    Luongo and Vigneault from the Vancouver Sun:

    “I do see 75, 76 games – a game a month [off] where a guy can have three or four days to practise, rejuvenate, refocus,” Vigneault said. “Brodeur’s been doing that now for years. [Luongo] seems to be better the more he plays. His first year [in Vancouver], his best game was his 96th game. By far his best game of the year. He can play if he wants to play.”

    “The funny thing is,” Luongo said, “every time I come to training camp, they say I’m going to play about 65 games, but I always play more.”

    “That’s because he gets upset at me,” Vigneault laughed. “I don’t want him to get upset, so I just play him more.”

  166. Ian Cobb says:

    Give me a break!!!

    These kids don’t get tired, its a game they love.  Hell, I worked like a dog in my 20s, 30s & 40s, 7 days a week. 8 to 16hrs a day. These kids work at the most 3 hours a day. Are you kidding me! Talk about soft.!

  167. J_P says:

    They CAN play 70 games a year, but since the lock-out, how have goalies who started 70+ regular season games faired in the playoffs? Not so hot. 

  168. PeterD says:

    70 games???

    Rediculous numbers for any goalie…even Luongo…how many cups has he won in his career?

    In the last 6 Habs stanley cups…the most any goalie played was 62 games regular season

    75-76 Dryden = 62 games

    76-77 Dryden = 56 games

    77-78 Dryden =52 games

    78-79 Dryden = 47 games

    85-86 Roy = 47 games

    92-93 Roy = 62 games

    Average over those 6 seasons fo rhte number one goalie = 54.33 games

    Now in 10-11 we have Price on a non-Stanley Cup contender (my assessment only) having player 36 games at the mid seasn point…current extrapolation is for him at this pace to lay 72 games…absolutely rediculous…

  169. 24 Cups says:

    The top five Plus/Minus leaders of all time (modern era).

    The number one guy is a Hab.  Can you guess who?

  170. HabFanSince72 says:

    I guessed right!


  171. twocents says:

    <<<<Does he look like this?

  172. joeybarrie says:

    Pittsburgh Penguins did worse the season they won the Stanley Cup. And last season the Chicago Blackhawks lost 9 in row…

    I do like the ‘too soft, too small, too intangible’…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  173. The Cat says:

    You got that from Boudreau but its not accurate. They lost 9 of 11 games in a stretch, but not 9 in a row.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  174. joeybarrie says:

    It’s cause I couldnt stick in a F**KIN F**K in there. Now I have to research it….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  175. LA Loyalist says:

    Slumps are inevitable, of course, as are weird ref calls and bizarre goals off the boards that cost you a game… BUT over a season the weird calls etc should average out to neutral.

    The problem with a slump of this severity is the fact that some teams will miss the playoffs this year on one or two loser points on the last night of the year. No one wants it to be us.

    Caps can offset their bad streak by ringing off 5 or 6 wins in a row, they totally are capable of it. We’re not, we  have to fight for every point, and if we’re not fighting… this is the result.

    Very concerned, that’s all.


    too small, too soft, too intangible


  176. LA Loyalist says:

    Just use this stock Boudreau quote:

    Well tonight we _____ the _____ out of _______ and then I _______ the _______ ref________ where the sun don’t _____ and I went back to the _______room and _______ off the ________ wall.

    Just cut and past as needed. It’s been my pleasure. :)

  177. J_P says:

    The only thing with the habs vs the pens and capitals, is that the capitals and pens can win games even when they give a 70% effort.  The habs need a 100% effort each and every game to get the W.  The habs rarely win an easy game.  Its not like were offsetting huge losing streak with effortless win streaks.


  178. Habnofear says:

    DUDE….we don’t got a Lemieux,Jager,Crosby or Malkin and the closest thing we’ve had is a Kovalev in the last 19 years….

  179. says:


    They Call Me Shane

  180. joeybarrie says:

    I was about to say with the time I spend on here I dont do 3 hours of work a day. But then I realized that given the amount of defending I do around here, I actually WORK alot more than that… Where’s my money?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  181. shiram says:

    I’d certainly give you a pat on the back if i could.

  182. Habnofear says:

    Same here Ian and still doing it,lol …YOU TELL EM BUDDY!

  183. jimmy shaker says:

    Ian, I don’t think being tired has anything to do with it, so I’m with you on that, but the facts show that lots of regular season action, does not bode well for a long spring dance run for the cup. (except Brodeur)


  184. alestar says:

    “HabFanSince72″ and you had to guess? 😉

    XXIV…and counting

  185. LA Loyalist says:

    How do we plan on making the playoffs? Just wondering out loud here….

  186. RJB says:

    Well we are in a playoff position now. So why wouldn’t we make the playoffs? If recent NHL history has taught us anything its that if you are in a playoff position halfway through, you are most likely going to be going to the dance come springtime 

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  187. HardHabits says:

    Last game of the season the Habs lose in OT against Toronto to finish tied at 8th place and get in because of a greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs.

  188. habs4ever2894 says:

    Then we beat the pens in 7

    Then beat the caps in in 7

    Lose to Philly in 5 (sigh)


  189. Ian Cobb says:

    Time to take another Gold from the Ruskies. Going to be a great game. Take the body and forecheck like crazy, will carry the day. The whole team can score.

    Worst case for us, is a shoot out.! me thinks.     Go Canada Go,!!!

  190. shiram says:

    A positive attitude is a rare thing in this place, but it sure is welcomed!

    I gotta say I do like our chances.

  191. Ian Cobb says:

    Who won the gold last night with the under 17 tournament.???    Jake Grimes from the Belleville Bulls coaching for Canada.

  192. MICP says:

    any link for the usa/sweden game?

    Thank you

  193. Castor says:

    If I had to choose I’d take the Habs winning tomorrow over Canada winning tonight. I swear

  194. secretdragonfly says:

    Ontario took it 5-3 over the US

    And it looks like the women’s under-18 are ready to take gold in Sweden – can you say trifecta?


  195. savethepuck says:

    I think they just showed that game on TSN before the USA Swe game. Ontario beat USA 5-3.

  196. Mark says:

    I dunno if you guys can help me, but a while back someone on this site posted a beautiful collage/poster of the Habs that they’d created. I had it saved to my computer, but now I’ve lost it. If anybody knows where I can find it, I’d love to get it back.

  197. HardHabits says:

    Ha. Funny. The Habs in the 80’s turned me towards being a fan of International Hockey and Team Canada. The ’84 Canada Cup was a major national redemption and ’87 was even sweeter.

    The Olympics were brutal though before the NHL players were allowed to play. Now with the KHL and no more Soviet Union NHL players are moot. The best Russian players are now all professionals.

    I can’t choose. I want both teams to win.

  198. SeriousFan09 says:

    I am Canadian, Louis Leblanc is one of my favourite prospects I’d love Team Canada to a start new Gold Medal streak but let’s be honest, wouldn’t Silver be just fine to see how Don Cherry would react or try to avoid talking about it 😀


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  199. Castor says:

    It’s good that we don’t HAVE to…and of course I want to see Canada win.

    But I have so much more invested in a random Habs game.

  200. habs365 says:

    Habs had better start playing playoff say why..Carolina prefers the way Habs are playing right now..everything is in their favor..when I see 50 to 28 in shots and they lose..there’s something wrong with this picture and it ain’t from the lack of shots.

  201. Timo says:

    As much as TSN and Hockey Canada are trying to kill the good spirit of amature hockey, this tournament is still a breath of fresh air in the midst of crap that is called the NHL. Habs losing tomorrow will be another thursday night suckitude that will be forgotten with the next win a few days later… Team Canada losing would linger a year (at least for me).

  202. Timo says:

    Damn… have to watched gold medal game PVRed. Damn kids. Seriously.

  203. Timo says:

    That makes Don Cherry… umm… significant? Is he really worth it? The man is old… he is useless… he is cluless. Who cares how he feels and what he thinks. Go Canada!!!

  204. GrimJim says:

    At least it’s your kids. I end up watching Habs games PVRed because the wife needs to watch Coronation Street at 7pm

  205. avatar_58 says:

    Naw, he’d find something to whine about and blame the loss on.

  206. Muckbringer says:

    why im glad sweeds go home empty handed.  present them skoda!!!


    comments are good too…



  207. punkster says:

    You clearly lead a sad and lonely existence.


  208. drivefor25 says:

    Timo, I am amazed. I totally agree with everything you just posted! Go Canada! Go Habs!


    Fan since ’71

  209. GrimJim says:

    I am a hockey schooner shipwrecked on a deserted island in the Sea of Storms

  210. Ferg says:

    Taking the family (wife and 2 teenagers) to Saturday’s game vs. Bruins. Have never been to Bell Centre. Kids have never been to Montreal. Any suggestions for family-friendly things to do? Staying in Old Montreal.

  211. PeterD says:

    Game can be streamed at


  212. punkster says:

    I’m sure a certain Captain Smith would be able to save you from this morass. His appearance has a way of revitalizing one.


  213. PeterD says:

    Agreed with that.

  214. Propwash says:

    You could always get a 2nd tv.

  215. Habnofear says:

    And I bet she’s seen evey show in what has to be the longest running of shows….yeppers ,yer beat,lol

  216. thorandresson says:

    Isn’t it funny that the Swedes finished 4th in the WJC, especially after the coach trash talked Canada a couple of times.  

  217. punkster says:

    Let’s get this done Canada.


  218. J_P says:

    That’s what they get for being classless haters. 

    They victimized Olivier Roy, who was clearly well off his game that night, and all of a sudden thought they were world beaters. 

  219. avatar_58 says:

    I kind of forgot just how big of an actor Markstrom was.

  220. J_P says:

    Well said my man! Well said!

  221. J_P says:

    I love the WJHC.  At least these kids actually care, and play like they care.  I loved every minute of Canada completing dominating the “favored” americans. 

  222. 24 Cups says:

    Stephen Harper  on TSN – somebody get me a barf bag.

  223. SeriousFan09 says:

    Louis Leblanc with the GWG tonight.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  224. 24 Cups says:

    Give them a double shot of gravol and they will be asleep in no time.

  225. Psycho29 says:

    Take the Bell Centre tour for sure…..worth the price….you get the Canadiens’ Hall of Fame included. Unbelievable. Make sure you show your game tickets…you get a discount…


    Also maybe the Pepsi Forum, where the Old Forum was, corner of Atwater and St.Catherine. There are different things to see and do….Maybe someone’s been there lately, it’s been maybe 3 years for me…

  226. SeriousFan09 says:

    So it wasn’t just me.

    Little-Known Harper Achievement: All-time Career Leader in Parliament when it comes to insincere smiles.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  227. kempie says:

    Anybody know who’s home game this is?

  228. Rugger says:

    Yup, Roly is going to sew up the cup for TB, lasted 7 minutes against Pitt before getting yanked.

  229. Bugs says:

    The one with its name right of the “vs”.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  230. zak says:

    Does Dave Cameron speak french?

  231. Psycho29 says:

    Pittsburgh chased Roloson 8 minutes into the game, 3-0…Pens scored again 20 seconds later on Dan Ellis….its 4-0 Pens over TB 9 minutes in.

    Guy Boucher is a bum….this is the new NHL  :-)

  232. Bugs says:

    Louis Leblanc with the Gordie Howe h-t tonight.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  233. kempie says:

    TSN has it both ways

  234. Bugs says:

    Those sly sonsabastiches…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  235. Bugs says:

    Wait til TB gets a powerplay though…

    Then we’ll see what’s what.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  236. dicktracy says:

    One of the TSN guys said Canada has the last change.


  237. habs001 says:

     playing the night before in wash and coming to play a rested pitts team would cause problems for all teams…

  238. kempie says:

    Nice, Thanks.

  239. Strabo says:

    Who cares, he speaks the language of hockey. Love his short curt answers, must be a joy at new conferences. Can you imagine after a Habs loss. How did the Habs do tonight? Terrible” Well yes but did any one player standout good or bad? Terrible, … I’d love to see that on day … roflmao


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  240. andrewberkshire says:

    Would you make the same excuse for the Habs? I doubt it.

  241. Strabo says:

    You just wait until MAB gets there. He would’ve made the difference tonight. BAHAHAHAHA


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  242. zak says:

    Unfortunately you have to speak french in habsland

  243. Bugs says:

    Had to be more interesting than the coach. Jeeez, what a jerk. Like, hey buddy, if you don’t wanna do the dang interview, surely you can get out of it better than that.

    I like how the TSN guys tell you BEFORE the interview “Trust us, Cameron’s not like this in real life.” And I’m like “Why are they telling me this? What is this, a warning that we’re about to hear borishness disguised as terse resolve?”

    And hot dang, that’s what it was!

    If you don’t wanna do the interview, don’t friggin do it. Don’t friggin insult us with wannabe hard-azzed claptrap, Cameron, and go coach the dang team; I won’t hold it against you.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  244. zak says:

    He would have scored one and been -3 for the nite

  245. TripleX says:

    So I guess the Habs are a lock for tomorrow as the rested team.  Right?



    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  246. SeriousFan09 says:

    I like MTL tommorow because Cammalleri has Fleury in his back pocket.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  247. Rugger says:

    Always joking around aren’t you Bugs, a powerplay against the Pens, like Bettman would ever allow that to happen.

  248. Keith says:

    Let’s go Canada!

  249. Strabo says:

    Russians playing the trap?


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  250. SensFanSpezza says:

    You know why we Habs fans are always so excited about Team Canada, right?  It’s the one time every year when we get to remember what it’s like to cheer for a powerhouse, just like we did in the good old days.

    Way to go, Ellis!

  251. Keith says:

    Oh God Harpo.

  252. Aybara says:

    Penguins are the most penalized team in the league. As Bugs says, just sayin’.

  253. SensFanSpezza says:

    If Team Canada scores five, do they get Shiken wings?

  254. Rugger says:

    Seriously?  I usually only watch them play the Habs so I figured it happens everywhere.

  255. OneTimer says:

    “we Habs fans” …riiiight. Your trolling gets 10/10 for form, I’ll give you that Spezza.

  256. TripleX says:

    I think the Habs always play best against a skill skating club like Pitt, rather than a grinding defense first team.  I expect a good game from the home team.



    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  257. HardHabits says:

    Ryan Ellis is 5′ 10″ around 180 pounds. I wonder how he’ll do in the NHL. Drafted in 2009 round 1 #11 overall by Nashville Predators.

  258. HardHabits says:

     Yzerman’s gone from genius to idiot in one night. LOL!!!

  259. Keith says:

    Good game so far.

  260. Aybara says:

    Well the Habs of course are the 3rd most penalized and are something like 23rd for PP’s received… Pitts on the other hand is 2nd with PP’s received. So I guess the volume of their pp’s probably throws it..

    This is from another post of the worst and best pp differentials.


     Montreal – Times shorthanded: 164 (Tied for 3rd) – Powerplays: 135 (23rd) – Differential= -19 (30th)

    To compare – Penguins TSH: 170 (1st) PP: 164 (2nd) – diff = -6

    Flyers: TSH: 165 (2nd) PP: 156 (7th) – diff = -11

    Toronto: TSH: 117 (29th) PP: 155 (8th) – Diff = +38 (1st)

    Anaheim: TSH: 164 PP: 138 – Diff = -18 (29th)

    Ottawa: TSH: 155 PP: 126 – Diff = -19  (30th)

  261. thorandresson says:

    Did you know Nick Lidstrom is 6’1 195 lbs?


    And Tobias Enstrom is also 5’10 180 lbs



  262. thorandresson says:

    Good game for Canada, can’t say the same about Russia.


    Is Canada that good or is the competition that bad?

  263. SensFanSpezza says:

    What did I say?  I’ve made no secret about the fact I grew up a Habs fan.

  264. Muckbringer says:

    its graduation night!  

  265. Keith says:

    What a play by Tyson Barry.

  266. Bugs says:

    Really? Cuz I think the Islanders would go through Canada junior like they weren’t even there. That’s my opinion.

    Soooo, perhaps best if you don’t project and generalize for all of us? If possible? Thanks.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  267. Habnofear says:

    Mark my words ,he will end up being a Hab,lol

  268. SensFanSpezza says:

    Oooh…dripping with sarcasm.  Could you not drip so drippily, please?  And thanks.

  269. LA Loyalist says:

    winter dripping is not so bad, it freezes before it hits the ground.


    too small, too soft, too intangible.

  270. J_P says:

    Really? I could have sworn the team that scores more goals wins the game…

    Yes, a lot more goes into to the game, but at the end of the day, if you dont score, you dont win. 

  271. LA Loyalist says:

    I love your abbatoir. Really, it always cheers me up.

  272. GrimJim says:

    “abbatoir” that’s brilliant

    LOL, LAL

  273. jimmy shaker says:

    Had this discussion before and other than goalies who played prior to the 70’s and Brodeur, tenders that have played 70+ games during the regular season never seem to be able to hoist Lord Stanley for whatever reason.  I’m not saying Carey CANNOT do it, he probably could play 70+ games and play well, but from the cold hard stats and my personal opinion, any goalie that plays 70+ games 99% of the time doesn’t win a cup.  I want Carey to get 60 games and Auld the other 22.  That’s a perfect ratio and I feel totally comfortable with that.  It’s better for Carey, Auld and the team. 


  274. GrimJim says:

    2009-10 stats

    • Brodeur (reg season 77GP, 2.24 GAA, .916) playoffs 1-4, 3.01, .881.
    • Nabokov (71GP, 2.43, .922) p 8-7, 2.56, .907.
    • Quick (72, 2.54, .907) p 2-4, 3.50, .884.
    • Anderson (71, 2.64, .917) p 2-4, 2.62, .933.
    • Luongo(68, 2.57, .919) p, 6-6, 3.22, .895.
    • Bryzgalov (69, 2.29, .920) p 3-4, 3.44, .906.
    • Miller (69, 2.22, .929) p 2-4, 2.34, .926.
    • (Kiprasoff and Lundquist played 70+ games but didn’t make the playoffs

    So of seven goalies, 5 lost in the first round, four had their Save% drop 20points or more, four had playoff GAA rise above 3.00, two had more (or equal) wins and loses and one had the sv% rise in playoffs.

  275. scrowe21 says:

    The Kassian hit coulda been called boarding, or charging…it was awesome though.

  276. Everlasting1 says:

    Are there boarding calls in this tourney? Highsticking? Tackling on a breakaway? 


     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  277. Just A Guy says:

    Got in too late to see the first but caught the replays. Smart play by Leblanc? I would think it was concious, draw 2 defenders and a quick pass back, anyone have his stats for the tourney? 2 periods to go, Russia is quite the tight group so expect a great game and some come from behind heroics. Can’t wait!

  278. Everlasting1 says:

    Canada has been laying a lotta good clean hits, but some were dirty. That no call on the breakaway..inexcusable. They’ll hear about it from the Russian gov’t lol


     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  279. Mark C says:

    Whoa baby what is going on in western Pennsylvania…6-0 now.  

  280. punkster says:

    Wow. That kid is something else.


  281. Just A Guy says:

    or maybe not…

  282. avatar_58 says:

    Wtf, why pull the goalie? It wasn’t his fault.

  283. OneTimer says:

    Whoa baby what is going on in…northern New York? 3-0 now. :)

  284. Top Corner says:

    HABS jersey in the audience….score!

  285. Keith says:

    Brayden Shenn just tied the Canadian record for most points in a World Juniors. He’s alot better than his laff brother it would seem.

  286. avatar_58 says:

    He’s kind of a forward, whereas Luke is defence.

  287. Strabo says:

    Trying to slow the game down … didn’t work so good.


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  288. scrowe21 says:

    thats funny… I really hate TB. I can’t stand the Penguins either, but the Habs losses to Tampa this year have been a major piss off.

  289. Propwash says:

    Can’t blame the Russian goalie for any of the goals against.

  290. Mark C says:

    Nice. If anyone cares, Pens now have 7, and shots are 36-15.

  291. 24 Cups says:

    It’s a fine line, sometimes.

    Canada wastes two PPs and then almost gives up a shorthanded goal. 

    It’s really not a 3-0 game in terms of the play.

  292. saskhabfan says:

    The defenceman got the puck first,so its no trip.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  293. JIMVINNY says:

    Leblanc just did the straight-arm-to-the-face on that Russian.  Awesome.

  294. scrowe21 says:

    Stamkos completely wiped out on a penalty shot tonight. Thats karma for dissing Omark’s spin and then pulling one against us.

  295. joeybarrie says:

    I forgot there were NHL games tonight.  Pitts beating Habs South 7-0 in the 2nd…. WOW. Hopefully they will tire themselves out scoring all those goals.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  296. Keith says:

    I’m starting to get nervous…

  297. joeybarrie says:

    That was awesome. I wanted the camera to go back…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  298. Everlasting1 says:

    Hysterical. He used his arm and took his feet from right under him. Disputing this is moronic.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  299. punkster says:

    TB mounting a comeback. Now 8-1.


  300. Everlasting1 says:

    The officiating is disgusting, and has made this game too one-sided and boring. 4 penalties to 1 for Canada? For real?


     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  301. krob1000 says:

    crosby one point on 8 goals……loser

  302. The Cat says:

    I dont know, I thought he looked very slow on the first one.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  303. LA Loyalist says:

     I like your abbatoir.

  304. punkster says:

    Trade him now while his value his high. DO IT RS!!!


  305. saskhabfan says:

    You are right,you are moronic there is no debating that.




    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  306. HabFanSince72 says:

    I think it’s an H I/O contributor.

  307. HabFanSince72 says:

    How’s that Roloson trade looking now?


  308. krob1000 says:

    he’s washed up…no stache no finish.

  309. saskhabfan says:

    8-1 pens? is giving up the most goals in the league part of the boucher system?





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  310. Keith says:

    Damnit it we’re blowing it!

  311. avatar_58 says:

    What the HELL canada come ON

  312. Everlasting1 says:

    WOW we have a game.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  313. punkster says:



  314. krob1000 says:

    not so fast Habfan…..he is still looking for a gamebreaking wide receiver…when he gets one…and he will these seven point deficits will be nothing…..

  315. The Cat says:

    The russians will not die.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  316. krob1000 says:

    um…no more posting on here…walk away for a minute and 3-2??

  317. Everlasting1 says:

    I don’t count too many men penalties. That’s on Canada.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  318. Bugs says:

    Crease violation, baby.

    Yeah, man.

    What? What’d I say? Talkin HOCKEY over here. Eyyyyy…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order:

  319. punkster says:

    Good team here.


  320. Keith says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! What a shot!!!

  321. Exit716 says:

    Our Louis is a hell of a player.

  322. OneTimer says:

    woo yeah Louie, nice play!!

  323. JIMVINNY says:

    Good play by Leblanc to draw two defenders, and a heck of a shot by Ashton.

  324. Everlasting1 says:

    Anyone here gonna complain about the referreing? lol


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  325. SeriousFan09 says:

    Nice first period by Canada but they can’t relent, Sweden and Finland thought it was over until it wasn’t.

    Lovely play by Leblanc as usual.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  326. 24 Cups says:

    It was pretty tight there for awhile.  The Soviets really can skate once they cross the line.  They also hit the post twice.

    Pretty tough giving up a goal in the last minute.  Ashton’s shot reminded me of Kovy.

    Gotta love that Eakin kid. 


  327. olematelot says:

    soviets are a thing of the past

  328. Strabo says:

    Say goodnight Gracie.


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  329. JIMVINNY says:

    yikes.  The last thing we need is ANOTHER russian comeback right now.

  330. SeriousFan09 says:

    Russians love the 3rd period apparently. I hope Canada starts liking it as well.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  331. saskhabfan says:

    I thought only jacques martin teams sat back on leads? Guess not.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  332. Everlasting1 says:

    Are you watching the same game? Sometimes a talented team responds.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  333. HabFanSince72 says:

    What a game it’s turned into!

  334. 24 Cups says:

    We’ve stopped skating and the Russians are crossing the line at will.  We’ll need two more goals to win this game which has been pretty even for the most part.

    Cowen and Ellis were guilty on those two goals.

  335. avatar_58 says:

    Oh come on, this is getting ridiculous

  336. Keith says:

    I don’t f***ing believe this shit!

  337. JasonM says:

    That’s some lousy D.

  338. punkster says:

    Gotta love their fight. No quit.


  339. Everlasting1 says:

    Tarasenko looks like a beast out there..loving his play, and the Russian’s style.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  340. 24 Cups says:

    Cowen again.  This is the guy who scared me the most.

  341. Rainrocket16 says:

    Wow, Pittsburgh is annihilating Tampa Bay 8-1…and we got them tomorrow??

  342. Propwash says:

    This game has officially shortened my lifespan.

  343. Keith says:

    What can you say about a game like this? Just amazing hockey from these kids.

  344. 24 Cups says:

    This is just like the Canada-US game except we’ve become the Americans as we have stopped skating..

    Start taking it  to the net.  Russia has their B goalie in for crying out loud.

  345. Rudy says:

    Where are the valium?

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  346. JIMVINNY says:

    Well that was all on Gudbranson.  Totally blew it.

  347. Everlasting1 says:

    Holy F–K Tarasenko OWNS.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  348. JasonM says:

    That was some real amateur D.

  349. avatar_58 says:


  350. thorandresson says:

    LeBlanc was on the ice for that  one

  351. Propwash says:

    Well, that’s what happens when you stop skating in the 3rd

  352. Keith says:


  353. joeybarrie says:

    The Canadians HAVE to come back here. Can’t believe they let 4 in the third…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  354. ManApart says:

    Wow, ugly stuff at the WJC. Total defensive choke.

  355. Anonymous says:

    I am glad I only care about habs hockey, I would be pissed right now otherwise. You guys can blame this one on me, fter goal number three I said it would be a predictable ending. It many ways it is turning out to be that way.

  356. JasonM says:

    2nd Russian goalie is far better than the first

  357. avatar_58 says:

    This is one epic fail

  358. Mr.Hazard says:


  359. JIMVINNY says:

    This has “epic meltdown” written all over it. 

  360. Mr.Hazard says:

    This is nothing short of embarassing. The coach and the entire team should be ashamed. Against the Russians, of all people.

  361. habsfaninboston says:

    Epic meltdown in the 3rd.

  362. JIMVINNY says:

    Unreal.  what a choke.

  363. Keith says:

    That’s all (((((

  364. JasonM says:

    Canadian goalie can’t save a puck if his life depended on it. What a meltdown.

  365. punkster says:

    Poor kids. Tough night.


  366. le_vrai_jacques says:

    yes, all alone

  367. Timo says:

    Poor kids?!?!!? Oh give me a break. Kids. These are 19-20 year old no good for nothing human pilons. Kids. Are 19-20 year old who commit murders also kids? Kids. These kids would eat both you and me for breakfast. 

  368. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    WOW 5-3

    WHAT AN EPIC COLLAPSE. LMAO I don’t even feel bad, I feel like laughing hahaha what a FAIL.

  369. avatar_58 says:

    Un REAL.


    Bad bad bad bad defence.

  370. Anonymous says:

    McKenziie did almost say Russia was a team of destiny


  371. OneTimer says:


  372. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I don’t know whether to cry or laugh.

  373. Keith says:

    Why are those A-holes calling a time out?

  374. ManApart says:

    The worst Canadian choke of all time. Can’t believe it.

  375. habs001 says:

    the whole team stopped skating in the second…the leblanc line was very poor in the 3rd

  376. Anonymous says:

    Start raggin’ on him early it’s the only way he’ll get that tough skin…

  377. JasonM says:

    Whoever wore #25 was especially bad in the 3rd.

  378. Psycho29 says:

    The only good thing is Pierre Maguire is subdued…

  379. Mr.Hazard says:

    Amen. And that’s really the ONLY good thing. He’d still be yelling his head off right now if Canada has won.

  380. HardHabits says:

    Never underestimate an opponent. Congratulations to Russia on 3 great come back wins.

  381. joeybarrie says:

    WOW……  AWFUL.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  382. avatar_58 says:

    Work is not going to be fun tomorrow, given my coworker is russian….hahaha

  383. JasonM says:

    I’m ashamed at their performance. What a collapse.

  384. JD_ says:

    Thoroughly epic.

    Props to the Russian kids for fightin’ back and takin’ it.

  385. Propwash says:

    Guess what, you stop playing hockey, and guess what happens.

  386. punkster says:

    Great comeback. Good for the Russians showing you should never give up.


  387. habs365 says:

    what a beating Pitts put on TB..martin better have his troops ready.

  388. Chorske says:

    Man, Russian players have no heart. BOY are they lazy.

    Just sayin’

  389. Keith says:

    I can’t laugh at this. It’s horrible to see these kids go through this! And take the camera off those Russian clowns please!

  390. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Best line of the night!

  391. habs001 says:

    foligno with the sabres will be a moen type player he will not score in the nhl…but we should put the team in prespective…the russians are a very good team and i believe all their best players are on the team…the quality of juniors missing from team canada is amazing

  392. avatar_58 says:

    Gotta say, the better team won. Good teams have skill, great teams never give up. Good for you russia, unbelieveable comeback

  393. Chorske says:

    They did this all tournament. Amazing performance.

  394. SeriousFan09 says:

    Teenagers who thought they had a win in the bag after taking down the team that defeated them last year, should have remembered they had a game left to play after the Semis.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  395. JIMVINNY says:

    anyone questioning a goalie change at 3-0 can now look to this game for evidence as to why it’s a good idea.

  396. Mr.Hazard says:

    Wonder what Cherry’s gonna say about this. No way all-European can beat all-Canadian?

  397. Aybara says:

    Why, they won.. They deserve it.

  398. Chorske says:

    Meh. Come ON. Clowns? Really?


  399. 24 Cups says:

    This game was very close from the opening minute.  Canada got the early scoring breaks which led to an artificial sense of security.  Even at 3-0 there wasn’t much difference between the two teams during the first two periods.  Once the Russians smelled blood, it was all over.  Just like their games against Finland and Sweden.  In the end, they were the best team.

    These Canadian kids are going to be scarred for quite awhile.  That’s something we can’t forget – they’re just kids.

    I hope that Leblanc gets another chance next year whether he’s back in junior or in Hamilton.


  400. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    They’re kids celebrating. They won it with character.

  401. avatar_58 says:

    Proof positive you don’t rely on a goalie, winning or losing. Losing? Score some more. Winning? Better tighten up and make sure no shots go through. Canada just assumed their goalie would stop them. Not all goalies can pull a “halak”

  402. SeriousFan09 says:

    They damn well earned it. Everyone laughs at heartless Russians, guess what, they just knocked off the ‘ultimate lunch pail team’.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  403. habs001 says:

    was olsen on d supposed to be a good player because he looked terrible in the entire tournament…

  404. newbrunswick troy says:

    just  like watching our Habs protect a 3 goal lead….oh wait we never ever have a 3 goal lead!!

  405. avatar_58 says:

    Are you kidding? I’d be living it up too, beating the so called “giant” and favourite

  406. HardHabits says:

    I am not ashamed. Canada entered the 3rd period thinking it was over.

    Credit the Russians. They came from behind against the Finns in the quarters, then the Swedes in the semis and then Canada in the final.

    Would like to see the Habs play like that.

  407. Keith says:

    Well maybe not clowns, but it’s hard to take right now. A terrible, terrible team collapse by Canada.

  408. Castor says:

    I hope The Penguins scored all of their goals tonight. Yikes.


    Oh and Team Canada lost.

  409. HabFanSince72 says:

    Are any of those Russians eligible for the next draft?

  410. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    That’s okay, can’t many Russians also claim to be Asian? That’ll really make Don happy.

  411. OneTimer says:

    you did call it…

  412. ManApart says:

    Feel bad for Schenn, he was awesome all tournament. As a whole, the team looked slow to me. Have a feeling you’re going to get the least amount of star NHL players out of this team compared to the last 15 years or so.

  413. COPOKA HA KOPOBE says:

    You mean hockey players got beaten by clowns? Nice circus though.

  414. Habnofear says:

    It looks too me like the bigger team won…..congrats to Russia

  415. HardHabits says:

    LOL. You do know what more girth size refers to don’t you?

  416. ManApart says:

    Or accurate

  417. The Cat says:

    They just get more complacent when the money is all set.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  418. newbrunswick troy says:

    my personal opinion,   this game was lost because coach shortened the bench  the whole game…and come third period he was left with A- players out of gas   and B- players not into it!!!!

    Leblanc,s line this game had to be way down in icetime….they ended up a -2   i think???

  419. joeybarrie says:

    OH YES, you called it.

    Saddest thing is watching these kids right now. No interest in receiving these medals. No interest in taking the pictures… I feel really really bad for them.

    Good for the Russians for not giving up. But man does it suck watching these kids’ faces.

    Reminds me of the Germans in the 99 Champs League Final vs Man Utd.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  420. COPOKA HA KOPOBE says:

    Look at it from my side. I have to buy a russian shirt for my canadian buddy to wear all day. My budget is down for $30.

  421. Aybara says:

    Exactly my sentiment…

  422. Habnofear says:

    Russian D looked bigger as well the Russian players seemed to have more girth size…more mature

  423. Everlasting1 says:

    C’mon dude..that was inspirational. Battling back like that in spite of the one-sided officiating and home crowd. They made it memorable. That was the mother of all comebacks, in a decisive manner, with no chintziness. Well deserved.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  424. MikeMcLaren says:

    Remember, it’s just a game folks.

    But it’s also important to remember this: Hockey IS for everyone!


  425. Chorske says:

    They defnitely lost a step in the second period, and were clearly out of gas by the third once the Russians started playing physically.

    I disagree about the quality of the crop. Please. Schenn and Leblanc and Eakin and Ellis etc they are all money.

  426. joeybarrie says:

    No one more negative than you.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  427. HabFab says:

    LL will be too old next year and you are correct in that this will always haunt them.

  428. HardHabits says:

    Actually the smaller more skilled team beat the bigger more physical one.

  429. habs001 says:

    the russians still run a big time hockey program …all their best players were available…the 7 players that we were missing would have made a huge difference..

  430. Anonymous says:

    Their problem was thinking it was over, lesson more than learned for when it really counts to complete a 60 minute game with a complete effort in the NHL.

  431. SeriousFan09 says:

    You misspelled ‘arrogant’ pretty badly there.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  432. HardHabits says:


  433. Habnofear says:

    I was meaning width but  now that you mention it ,it also could be the bigger package theory,lol

  434. avatar_58 says:

    Stars don’t automatically win championships, see Ovechkin, Alex. Teams do, see  ’93, habs

  435. saskhabfan says:

    LMFAO,if anything the guy should be embarrassed not arrogant since pretty much everything he posts is the opposite of what happens. You would think after being wrong so often for so long the guy would learn. You do have to admit though,the fact that he actually acts arrogant when in reality he is  clueless and obviously knows squat about hockey is hilarious in itself.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  436. Ian Cobb says:

    The kids thought they had won something after 2 periods, and tried to mail it in, in the 3rd.

    Canada will never learn, if you try to protect the lead and change your game to defending, you will lose.

    We went from taking it to them, and winning two periods, to letting them take it to us.

    Toe Blake always said, the best way to defend is to take the play to them.

    We just quit playing hockey, and got slaughtered 5 goals in one period. They wanted it more, is all.

    They were not mentally prepared to come out in the 3rd period and win it.  OVER!

  437. joeybarrie says:

    If ya gotta ask…………

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  438. avatar_58 says:

    Shame Martin will never learn and employs the “grab something and hold oooooon” approach in the third period.

  439. SeriousFan09 says:

    So much for the “Heartless Russians” we always hear so much about.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  440. geo_habsgo says:

    Canada: Always the bridesmaid and never the bride. 


  441. showey47 says:

    I agree ian,though it was ours to win. But in the 3rd canada stopped doing what got them the 3-0 lead in the first place. Considering what the russians did in their previous 2 games,canada should have been prepared for this.

  442. Graves says:

    Kudos to the Russians, they were full value for the win. One thing I will say, however, is that I won’t soon forget Tarasenko lying on the ice like he was dead after the collision with Foligno, and then “miraculously” returning soon after. I really hate it when talented players conduct themselves that way. Shades of Mike Ribeiro.

  443. wild flower says:

    Foligno’s skate never even touched him

  444. ooder says:


    for the first 2 periods i was getting laughed at by my freinds.. but i can’t believe it.

    talk about clutch, talk about heart, talk about effort

    i can’t believe it… what a comeback!!!!


    88 is the new 23

  445. wild flower says:

    did you begin watching two years ago?

  446. Ian Cobb says:

    The better team won 09

  447. geo_habsgo says:

    Not really. Just lumping my habs woes in with Canada’s 

    But in the last ten years Canada and Russia have met 7 times. Russia now has the edge 4-3. It is a pretty good rivalry but just such a bad way for a good team to lose.

  448. Everlasting1 says:

    Yes it did..intentionally.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  449. oshawahabsfan says:

    That was some Jacques Martin hockey right there, doesn’t work at any level

  450. Laramy87 says:

    Cameron was simply outcoached….. Timeout should have been after the second goal not the third. Visentin should have been pulled after the 3rd goal.

    Russian only down by 3 pulled thier goalie after 3 and looked what happened, it sparked the Russians.

    Question, why is every single Russian player on that team like extremely ugly?

  451. Propwash says:

    Bottom line is this, you slack off, you lose the game.

  452. deggy24 says:

    I’m not a nationalist, but I’ve been proud of our junior team for years. for turning the page on goonism to hockey skill. We fell short to a talented crew in a great hockey spectacle. Give credit to the winners and the losers. One minor observation besides the wonderful display of hockey and sportsmanship; sure is nice to have a right handed shot sniper.


  453. OneTimer says:

    and Everlasting1 knows this

  454. 24 Cups says:

    The Rangers beat Carolina 3-2 in overtime. 

    Getzlaf out until February.  We play the Ducks on Jan 22nd.

  455. RJB says:

    Ian, the better third period team won. It looked like Canada didn’t watch the tape of Russia Finland. Should have seen it coming. 

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  456. avatar_58 says:

    OT – but Rolloson was wearing a new blank mask + pads – could that have had something to do with the giant loss?

  457. avatar_58 says:

    The replay showed he didn’t even get injured, he sort of looked around then went “AAARRGHH” and put his head down.

  458. larisalapointe says:

    E1 is a Blues fan and Tarasenko is their prospect. So love is blind.

  459. adam76 says:

    Mods – please email me and explain why ALL my posts were removed.

  460. oshawahabsfan says:

    There’s still goonism unfortunately, it’s minor but it’s still there. Cormier last year and Kassian this year. Bournival and a handful of other players would have been more effective than that clown on the team

  461. HardHabits says:

    Uncanny really

  462. avatar_58 says:

    Why don’t you email them and quit posting about it, because we sure don’t care

  463. wild flower says:

    I understand.

  464. showey47 says:

    lmao,anybody else see the stamkos penalty shot attempt tonight?



  465. Graves says:

    My point exactly.

  466. avatar_58 says:

    Ha! Hockey gods for his spinerama on Price

  467. ooder says:

    you mean the guy who got kicked in the head?

    if a canadian came back and scored a goal we would all be writing how much heart he has…

    i saw tarasenko get kicked in the head and come back and score…


    88 is the new 23

  468. larisalapointe says:

    Hilarious, makes up for the other day….couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

  469. PrimeTime says:

    Congrats, Oo

  470. dicktracy says:

    If our juniors didn’t win I’m happy the Russians did. Their reaction to winning the gold showed also why they were able to come back and win the game. Wow. Lots of heart and love for the game and their country. Sounds familiar, like Canada.

  471. SeriousFan09 says:


    What he said.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  472. PrimeTime says:

    Have you ever heard of Class? (not your grade school)

  473. avatar_58 says:

    Better than the US eh?

  474. oshawahabsfan says:

    Congrats ood, they played balls out to get to the final, and saved the biggest comeback for the biggest stage. If Canada doesn’t win, I’d sure rather have it be Russia. At least they’re not arrogant pricks like the Americans

  475. Graves says:

    Cheers dude, they earned it.

  476. SeriousFan09 says:

    It was a brilliant tournament by Team Russia, they deserve their accolades and more.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  477. Keith says:

    I have to admit. Your Russian Juniors “Out Canadianed” us. Congratulations. They very well deserved it. But as a Team Canada fan, it’s a very tough loss to take. Cheers 😉

  478. Graves says:

    Honestly, I felt the replay showed the skate missed him, but that’s just my opinion. I’m really not trying to start anything here man – like I said, the Russians were full value for the win, that was an amazing comeback.

  479. anotherhab says:

    Maybe Jackie Martin will have to head down to Tampa and give that Boucher guy some defense lessons. As bad as we’ve played lately we never get blown out  — happened to Tampa several times already this year!

    Go Habs Go

  480. dicktracy says:

    Ya, different I think…USA cares more about winning than what they’re  winning…at least when it comes to hockey.

  481. ooder says:

    honestly… after 06 and olympics debacle this makes me feel better.

    russian hockey has not had much to celebrate in a long time..

    they were written off after losing to canada and getting shut out by sweden

    but this team was something else, finalnd, sweden and then in the gold medal game to stage that comeback.

    thanks for the congrats guys… classy  stuff (like i tried to be after the olympics 😉 )


    88 is the new 23

  482. avatar_58 says:

    lol must be awesome with such a comeback. Feel free to rub it in the face of every nearby canadian…haha

  483. ooder says:

    no no dont get me wrong.. im not attachking u..

    just saying it looked like the kid got hit in the head with a skate..

    he did miss some time as well, and i dont see why he needed to embellsih


    88 is the new 23

  484. PrimeTime says:

    Im happy for Roloson. Thats a great pickup for Tampa Bay. They now must be considered a serious threat to go all the way.

  485. Jonson says:

    Too bad Hockey players dont give a crap what we all think!!! lol

  486. Graves says:

    Cheers man, I just know some people on here act as if all Europeans are divers, didn’t want to give you the wrong impression.

  487. ManApart says:

    Coming from you!?! That’s a bigger joke than Canada’s 3rd period

  488. Keith says:

    Sorry for my earlier comment below. Heat of the moment stuff. You’ve got every reason to be proud of your team and how it came back and won this game. It was a great game. One for the ages really. Just not so much for Canadian fans for obvious reasons.

  489. joeybarrie says:
    I’m reasonably sure, whoever
    the new backup goalie is, will have the starting job by Xmas.
    I wont include the rest……………..  BUT YEAH ACCURATE HUH….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  490. HardHabits says:

    Congrats ooder. 3 great comebacks. Lots of skill and determination in that crew. We had 7 of our best eligible players in the NHL though. 😉

  491. HardHabits says:

    You’ve added a few new notches to the douche bag meter.

  492. Timo says:

    These team Canada players are already bona-fide NHLers. They believe their own hype, they don’t give a rats behind about fans and they all have by now mastered million time repeated cliches. Little we didn’t give out 100 there, we got unlucky bounces here, little tear for the camera and off to the bars (for those that are legal age, video games for others). 

    Congrats to Russians who just dug down and worked hard! Very well deserved.

  493. Jonson says:

    well said ali g

  494. PrimeTime says:

    That was actually funny……although an opinion as opposed to “accurate” fact. Either way, from you, it means very little. But thanks for coming out!

  495. ManApart says:

    Whatever man. You’re just a little punk, and a dimwitted one at that. Come back and talk to me when you learn something about the game.

  496. ooder says:

    its cool.. emotions run high..especially after a game like this


    88 is the new 23

  497. Timo says:

    Congrats, Misha. Great game by the russians. There are no excuses for Canadians choking. Russians deserved this victory cause they never quit and they never stopped working hard. I would have been happy if the Americans won it but the next best alternative is Russia. Pozdravliayu!

  498. ManApart says:

    I guess you don’t know the meaning of sarcasm. I don’t think you want me to dig up what you were saying this summer. I swear, so far you are almost 100% wrong across the board. The team is going along exactly how I said. The offense, the lack of physicality. The aging D. Subban not lighting the world on fire. PG making a big mistake with Auld as back-up. PG standing pat on the offensive side being a failure this summer. Montreal being a bubble team. Gomez’s contract being a huge hinderence and Gomez being a totally bad move. The only thing I was off on was Price. Well, at least until December came around. You on the other hand were pretty much opposed to everything I said. Well guess what buddy….so far one of us ain’t looking so swift. I’ll let you guess who lol.

  499. Timo says:

    oh… and it is my sincere wish that nobody from this year’s edition of team Canada makes it in the NHL and never gets those big paycheck they are all dreaming about. (maybe except for Louis Leblanc, but even then, i am too pissed off to wish him well)

  500. HardHabits says:

    Sure thing daddy-o. You’re so cool. Your posts. Your wisdom. How you know it all. The way you talk down to everybody.

    One day I hope to contribute as much as you do as it’s clearly obvious that I don’t have a f***in’ clue and am unable to articulate anything beyond a few grunts and groans about how great I am and know more than everybody else. No wait a minute, that would be you.

  501. Bill H says:

    Great third period by the Russians.  What a change from the first 2 periods.  What a difference 20 minutes makes.  Our boys lost focus badly.  I thought they might snap out of it after the second goal, but they didn’t.  Well, silver ain’t so bad. They played an excellent series right up until the last period.  The Russian lads deserve credit for a great win.

  502. SeriousFan09 says:

    Washington has the rights to Evgeni Kuznetsov and Dmitri Orlov, that team is just going to keep getting scarier with the talent they’ve drafted in the last few yars.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  503. joeybarrie says:

    Sonow its sarcasm. OK I can play that game. If I was ever wrong, it was sarcasm. By the way Price aint the only thing you said that was way off. I have used you before in my things thats were said and were way off…

    5th this season. We will see in the end… by the way can you give me an example of what i was wrong about?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  504. badbalance says:

    Same here, Someone messaged me, “Uh Oh, Canadian Domination”. Made him swallow his words. Felt good. GO RUSSIA!

  505. Hagar says:

    Canada was out of gas. Why we were out of gas is anyone’s guess. Russia wasn’t out of gas & capitalized on the situation. We should have expected Russia to play lights out in the 3rd & made sure we saved some energy for it, since they pulled this exact same 3rd period trick the previous 2 games. We also should have pulled our goalie. Lastly, we should have cracked some skulls & made the NHL hand over our 7 roster players.

  506. LA Loyalist says:

    I mostly agree with you with 2 exceptions: I think the problem with PK is JM, and I don’t think it’s totally fair to bag on Auld as he’s barely played and he’s been decent. The issue is more later in the year when Price will have to rest.

    And as for Price, all last year and last summer, not too many people were saying he didn’t have talent, but unquestionably there was something wrong with his attitude or his focus or something we spent what, a year? trying to parse.

    But bottom line, we only have a half-dozen top line players, and our best player is gone for the year. We’re thinner than an excuse in terms of fixing our problems, though I have to admit PG was decent getting Halpern (and I preferred Moore) and excellent in getting the Wiz for very modest cost.

    I’m afraid we’re pretty much screwed until Gomez expires (his contract, I mean) and we get rid of a few other coasters and especially Count Chocula, who is unable to maximize what we have.

    We need at least one large nasty forward with soft hands, we need to replace Gomez with a good center, we need to freshen up the D – I think Hammer is good for 12-15 minutes but he can’t carry the whole freight – and what can we do? Trade what future we have? We had better not lose what prospects we have.

    This is not going to be fixed for a couple of years. I’m sure you take no joy in being right. 

    too small, too soft, too intangible


  507. PrimeTime says:

    Avatar suggestion…..Bill O’Reilly. Would be much more “accurate”.

  508. Everlasting1 says:

    Been reading how the KHL doesn’t like outsourcing too much of their talent, but players are often enticed by the more lucrative NHL contracts.


     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  509. SeriousFan09 says:

    PK has more problems than mean old Jacques Martin.

    He’s a defencemen who has become very used to being about the best player on the ice every time he steps on it for the last 2 or 3 years of his hockey career before he made it to the NHL. Now he’s adjusting to a league where his wild offensive rushes can go against him and his passes can be picked off. He has shown incredible talent, but 1st-year defencemen don’t always become stars right away. They have to learn what doesn’t work anymore.

    He beat the best defencemen we’ve had in about two decades Andrei Markov by two full years on making the NHL. Duncan Keith took until his 4th NHL season to really display all he is capable of, Chara wasn’t a star overnight and there are many others with similar stories when it comes to D. For a guy selected as a 2nd-round pick because people weren’t sure if he would ever grow enough on the defensive side of the game to be an NHLer he’s doing very well for himself. It’s called growing pains as a defencemen in the NHL.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  510. Jonson says:

    lets just relax. MOntreal has shown us this year that when they come to play not many teams can beat them. every team goes through a slump once and a while. montreal have had 98 shots in the last 2 games. I think they are starting to play like they were earlier in the season. They HAVE THE TALENT, its just a matter of time. Lets just get Eller back in the lineup ( thats for you MANAPART) and lets enjoy in the second half and the playoff run!

  511. ManApart says:

    Pretty much everything. PG’s non moves this summer, how good getting Gomez was. PK will win rookie of the year. The Habs not being a bubble team. I don’t care enough to look it up right now specifically. All I know is you disagreed with almost everything I said last summer, and so far pretty much everything has gone the way I warned. And hold up, with Im way off on Price. That is certainly not a closed book. Last year I was begging for Halak to start since the teams December slide, you disagreed all day and night. In the end I was bang on. Halak did get a chance, he did outplay Price and claim the starting job and was the only reason Montreal made the playoffs. If you had your way, none of that would ever have happened. I’m not keeping score or anything, but you’re the one who wanted to go there.

  512. avatar_58 says:




    (it’s a joke, don’t kill me)

  513. ManApart says:

    The problem is, They DON’T have the talent. That is the basis for my whole gripe and all my pessimism. My contention is, why? BG and PG had 7 years. Why are we not more talented than a middle of the pack team after so long? I’ve wrote books on what I think is the reasoning. The conclusion is management has not been good enough in a wide spectrum of areas and most be fired immediately. They’ve had a chance and then some to show what they had and it was not nearly good enough. Until they are gone, this team will never win another Stanley Cup. You can quote me on that.

  514. ManApart says:

    The rich keep getting richer

  515. MTLForever says:

    – Russia played a very strong 3rd and deserved it. 

    – Canada looked tired, sloppy but did you notice it was the same guys out there every other line basically. Didn’t see much of certain players. 

    – Russia’s goal to go ahead, couldn’t get it out of the zone.

    – Just happy Canada knocked out USA 

  516. ManApart says:

    O’Reilly is one of the most entertaining people on Television. The time he went on The View and got all those big mouth women to protest was almost as great as Canada winning Olympic Gold. He was awesome that day. 

  517. billylove says:

    On any given night, the Habs can compete with anyone but they really don’t have enough talent to sustain for the long haul. If they are healthy, if Price plays lights out, if they get a few breaks, etc – maybe they can make the playoffs interesting but getting the cup back with this squad is unrealistic and for Montreal fans unacceptable. My heart wants them to win it all but my head says they don’t have what it takes.   

  518. Jonson says:

    i agree that management has been pretty bad, mind you bob gainey had some decent teams that just underperformed. But now the future has never looked brighter (in recent decades) if you would just stop being so negative and cocky you would see this. I dont understand it. DO you really not see it?? we have one of the best D prospects in the NHL, we have one of the best goalies in the league(who is still very young). We have one of the top farm systems. I know you think Eller is a career 4th liner but he is NOT. He is the big center that we have been dreaming about for years. PAtches has shown tremendous progess and has a bright future. Desharnais has nothing left to prove in the minors. Weber has shown he can play in the NHL (i had my doubts but my thoughts have changed) if we lock up the Wiz then we will a great defense core. Especially if Markov comes back. Ben Maxwell had an awesome preseason and has been having a solid year despite injuries. And on top of that we have pleks cammy and Gionta locked up for another 4-5 years. Get over HALAK, Price is better. thats it. THat was the Best part of the Halak trade… the fact we kept Price. IF this is too much for you understand than maybe you can become a leafs fan, than it would actually make sense for you to be so negative.

    ANyways i know that you are just gonna write back that im wrong and you are right…. but you will see my friend montreal will win a stanely cup within the next 5 years.

  519. deuce6 says:

    Yea, too bad they can’t draft defense/goal tending..They may win something sometime..

  520. Frank2468 says:

    Russia did play very strong tonight, but we where all over them in the 1st and 2nd.  They either ran out of gas or figured it was in the bag.  Either way thats a dangerous combination and a valuable lesson.  They just stopped for-checking and hitting in the 3rd and Russia took it to them.  I don’t know what happened in between the second and third, but it would seem that when the guys came back out they played like they were wearing the Blue and White instead of the Red and White.

    Tomorrow’s Caption for the newspapers (Team Canada winning but in the third the Toronto Maples Leafs showed up and we know how that story ends)


  521. SeriousFan09 says:

    John Carlson anyone? Dmitri Orlov was 2nd in defencemen scoring at the Tournament as well. Varlamov’s on a bit of a roll lately as well, can’t really hold him blameless in a 1-0 loss to TBL the other night.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  522. CHsam says:

    LMAO. shut up.

  523. ManApart says:

    Trust me, you are way way over evaluating our prospects. I think you are a young guy who isn’t that experienced in player evaluation. 3-4 years ago, people were saying the exact same things as you. We got the Cup in the next 5 years easy! There was Koivu,Kovy, Higgins, Perozhogan, Ryder, AK, Laps, Lats, Komi, Markov, Pleks. Guys like D’Ags, Grabo, Fischer, SK74, Price, Chips were coming up. We had were going to be contenders. Well guess what happened? The future never looked brighter in recent decades was my favorite line LOL.

  524. NoTinFoilCups says:

    95% of these Russians could care less about winning the Stanley Cup. Datsyuk is an anomaly. Let Washington draft all the Russians they want. I hope we stay clear of them. They’re brought up to revere World and Olympic championships. Nothing wrong with that. It is just a matter of upbringing.

    I’ve worked with plenty of Russians. They seem to have no idea (or choose to turn a blind eye) that during the World’s most countries are missing their best talent.

  525. SeriousFan09 says:

    Were Fedorov, Kozlov, Konstantinov, Larionov, Fetisov anomalies? I hear the Red Wings did pretty good with those guys for a while. Also, I seem to recall this guy, can’t quite remember his name… Evgeni somethingorother winning the Conn Smythe trophy in 2009.

    Andrei Markov has been the best defencemen the Canadiens had since Chris Chelios got traded. He’s led the blue line season after season, putting the team in the playoffs and managing a top-end PP system no matter who his partner happened to be on the blue line. Maybe they’re not so keen to come over here and be mocked from the second they arrive because they’re taking the slot of a ‘good Canadian boy’.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  526. Duracell3 says:

    It most depends on where their salary falls. There is a range where it makes far more sense to play in the KHL, 13% income tax is pretty great, at higher levels however the NHL makes more sense with the salary plus advertising, etc.

  527. Duracell3 says:

    and wild flower KNOWS it didn’t,

    uncanny really.

  528. NoTinFoilCups says:

    You’re going back a few years for most of that crew. True there are some who will bring the effort needed to mould a cup winning team. But they are a minority.

    My point is you cannot simply draft the best raw talent such as Kuznetsov or Tarasenko and assume it will lead you to a Cup. There is more to making a team player than skill alone. We’ve seen our share of this type of player on the Habs. I may have come off as sounding like Cherry. Perish the thought. I have nothing against any European player taking roster spots. If you want a team to win a cup give me skill, yes, but if the desire is not there nothing will come of it. Hockey is a battle of will as much as a battle of skill, especially at the NHL playoff level.

    With the KHL in place drafting these guys has become more of a crapshoot than it ever was. It is quite apparent from the draft. Why waste a first or second round pick on a kid who may never show up or simply walk away from a contract?


  529. saskhabfan says:

    LMFAO, bg and pg 7 years?In case you haven’t noticed yet “mr.inaccurate” bg hasn’t been a g.m. for almost a year. He isn’t even an assistant. He has the same role as cliff fletcher has in toronto since burke took over. Do does this mean burke/fletcher has had 5 years? PG has been on the job as g.m. 11 months not 7 years. Looks like you are proven “inaccurate” yet again. You are even more “inaccurate”then i thought you were. One is “accurate” the other is “inaccurate” i will let you figure out who is who. LMFAO. Your catch phrases are almost as lame as your avatars.




    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  530. saskhabfan says:

    Have you ever seen a guy been more “inaccurate” but talk as if he is always right? Some serious self-esteem issues on ‘maninanaccurate”






    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  531. Jonson says:

    trust you? lol when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about?

    Trust me, i never expected those groups of guys to do anything, espectially Kovy, i never liked him. im sure you were though, you seem like that kinda fan

  532. Chuck says:

    Dang… that also means that my completely epic response to your utterly juvenile post has gone the way of the Dodo.

    Oh well, we’ll always have each other.

    Centre Hice exclusive: Team Canada 2nd intermission video

  533. deuce6 says:

    What does scoring ability have to do with defense?

  534. ManApart says:

    Such a stupid post.  BG GM for 6 years with Gauthier as assistant. PG on the job 1 year. Which = 7 years for the BG and PG duo. Can’t believe I even answered your useless post

  535. Jonson says:

    Now that its over….. back to habs

    I think DD played a pretty good game on Sunday but whats the point of him being here? Is there a vacant spot in our center position? LAst time i checked we already have 4 centers. Eller has been playing very well so i really dont see the need for DD to come and take away Ellers playing time. Usually when you call someone up its to fill a certain need. I really dont understand the reasoning behind it. JM is just terrible, if you are looking for another center than i think Halpern should be the odd man out.

  536. ManApart says:

    Montreal needs scoring badly. PG didn’t address any of that this summer, even though they got shut out 3 times vs the Flyers. They’re desperate, so are trying out DD, who was leading the AHL in scoring when he got called up. Halpern is their best face-off guy by far and one of their best Penalty Killers. Better offensively than Eller at this point also, never mind his experience. I told you yesterday, Eller has been playing OK. It’s not like the team will win or lose because he’s in or out of the lineup.

  537. OneTimer says:

    Eh, that’s a shame, would’ve been nice on the trophy shelf. Oh well back to the Habs. Hope they give’em hell tomorrow.

    Oh and at least we have the Olympics!

  538. PrimeTime says:

    The kids can’t sing but they sure earned the right to do it!!!

  539. RJB says:

    Pathetic effort after the 1st period by team canada. Just awful. Outplayed, dominated.

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  540. Exit716 says:

    Once Canada went ahead 3-0 they backed off. Simple as that.

    The second and fourth goals were very questionable. But the fact remains is that they stopped utilizing the strategy that had been so effective through the first 35 minutes.

  541. Keith says:

    Time to hit the mute button lol!

  542. Psycho29 says:

    I agree…that Maguire is hard to take…

  543. habaholic68NJ says:

    Interesting game.  Looked like these small and speedy Russians where playing some kind of defensive system in the first two periods trying to keep the Canadian scorers to the perimeter.  Also looked like in the 3rd period, they turned off the system and played their speed and skill card.  No contest.

    I hope JM was watching and making notes on that little pad that he scribbles on.

  544. avatar_58 says:

    That’s ok, LA isn’t one of those hated teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing them win

  545. ManApart says:

    How do you like the LA Kings Centers next season. Kopitar, Schenn, Stoll, Handzus. Now that’s strength down the middle. Add Quick and Bernier in goal, Doughty, Johnson and Dustin Brown. Plus I think they have a ton of cap space and one of the top prospect pools in hockey. Cup is going to LA very soon.

  546. habs001 says:

    silver is a good showing…we cannot be so arrogant and believe that vs other top countries who have their best juniors playing we can win easily when we are missing 7 of our best juniors…we are deep in players but not that deep in elite junior stars

  547. Jonson says:

    i think i had a little more support on that subject then you did.

    did you not read it this morning?

  548. Jonson says:

    desperate? lol if they were so desperate how come he didnt get any pp time? he wasnt there go to guy. there  is no desperation there. they didnt address the need last summer cause there wasnt any need. MOntreal have the players who can score, Martin just isnt allowing everyone the oppurtunity to do so. Cammy will start scoring, Gionta is scoring, PLeks will get his 25, AK will get his 25 if JM just lets him play through his ups and downs. i wish they would give Pouliot some time on the pp ( instead of Darche) and a little more ice time. He could have easily been on pace for over 20 if he wasnt demoted to the 3rd line after 5 games into the season (even when he was the only player competing on the Gomez and Gionta line) .  Montreal has all the talent up front  its just a matter of time before they explode. Id take Eller over Desharnais anyday

  549. ManApart says:

    LOL, seriously Bro. There was no need to improve the offense last summer? You do know they were ranked 26th in the league last year, tied with Toronto for Offence. Do you think Toronto needed to improve their offense last summer? You do know they were shut out in 3 of the 5 games vs the Flyers last Playoffs. They are ranked 25th in the league this year. They have a few guys who can score yes, but as a whole they suck offensively. I think only you, PG and Seriousfan thought they were fine this summer offensively. Desharnais is here to see if he can chip in some offense. let’s face it, Eller and his 6 points ain’t doing that. That’s why DD was playing and Eller was a scratch.

  550. Jonson says:

    26th last year  yeah thats true. but do you not remember that markov was out till feb? we lost Gionta for over 2 months? AK for over 2 months? ( when he was on absolute fire , i think it was 11 goals in 12 games) oh yeah than we lost Cammy for over 2 months, you have serious issues dude. This team is awesome, if it wasnt for JM defensive system, that clearly doesnt work, this team would be a lot better. at the end of the day , you will see them going deep in the playoffs again cause when it matters montreal have the players who can put the puck in the net. i guarantee that they will not finish 25th in the league in scoring. i Really dont know what to say to convince you how good Eller is , do you watch the games?

  551. ManApart says:

    Oh, so it was the injuries. Well through half a season they are in the same spot this year, with a remarkably healthy roster so far, minus Markov. Oh ya but it’s all JM’s fault. That’s the reason. He doesn’t allow them to skate into the offensive zone. C’mon man. You can’t be believing this stuff. They are not going deep anywhere, but on the golf course. No Halak this year, remember? And I said I think Eller is playing OK. Let’s calm down now. The guy has 6 points for God’s sake.

  552. Jonson says:

    all im saying is that DD doesnt need to be playing right now, Eller is playing good in his 3rd line role. I just dont understand why you would sit him back to back games for another player in the same situation. Eller has proved to be a good hockey player. IF you are not gonna use DD on the top 2 lines and the pp there is no use for him here. He is not a checker he is supposed to be an offence guy.

    ANd yeah i believe in this team they just need a new coach.

  553. ManApart says:

    I won’t disagree with you there. Not on your last line, but the first paragraph.

  554. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s running off of a Leafs story but that shouldn’t stop you, it’s an article about the wear and tear that the butterfly style puts on the body.

    Not the first time I’ve seen this subject covered either, something to think about with nothing but butterfly goaltenders these days.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  555. andrewberkshire says:

    There are other styles, Price for example isn’t a butterfly goalie. He’s a hybrid between butterfly and standup.

  556. HABZ24 says:

    ok enough with watching lil 16 yr ol kids play hockey, back to MENS hockey. price was doing great before, he has the talent, but lacks mental tuffness  to be a rock steady solid reliable goalie .but hope hes getting there.we have no more solid backup to bail out carey in these skids.thats when we lose two pts after 2 pts after 2 pts. where the heck are cammy and the top goal getters.two goals a game isnt cutting it. bench cammy or koz.send a mssg NO PASSENGRS ALLOWED.right this fiasco and lets get this circus we call a team moving in the right direction.

  557. avatar_58 says:






  558. Rob D says:

    Maybe I am just getting old..but I don’t really care who wins the World Juniors anymore. It’s a great tourney but I treat it like it is which IMO is a chance for the best young hockey players in the world to continue their development. I actually deplore the massive overhype that TSN is guilty of for this event.. I understand its’s a big deal for them and no doubt makes them a lot of money. All well and good. But we have to keep in mind that they are kids..most of them.

    Team Russia was very deserving of the win. They are the Kardiac Kids this year..amazing comebacks. Canada playeed much better than I dreamed of since I thought they would lack firepower and their goaltending looked shaky. But they probably played their worst period of the tourney in the 3rd. Stuff happens. I am a jr. hockey fan and no lead is generally safe at that level. I also thought the style the Canadians employed was taking a heavy toll on them and that the fading minutes of the 2nd you could see them getting more and more heavy legged. Those 2 goals in 11 seconds just crushed them. But they are not full grown men. They are still kids growing both physically and emotionally. They should not be held to the same standard as pros. The constant Maguire hype about who drafted which player and how “tremendous” he’s going to be “a perfect fit” etc. is way over the top. Let them develop and start talking about them when they achieve something. PK Subban is one of those kids currently learning the harsh lessons of pro hockey. It’s not the Belleville Bulls or the Sault Greyhound type atmosphere, kiddo.

    I hope that most fans realize this is not the World Cup of hockey or the STanley Cup. It’s a fun junior tourney which is starting to become very competitive and Canada is no longer guaranteed anything. I want them to win too..but this competition can only be good for everyone involved.

  559. Everlasting1 says:

    Agreed, it’s not exactly an elite class tournament showcasing the sport’s finest, but overhyped? Perhaps within hockey circles, but this is a world tournament. What is overhyped are the Winter Classic, All-Star games.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  560. keepthefaith says:

    Russia s number 10 is the Paul Pierce of hockey. Gets carried off like he is dead  and comes back to be the hero. I saw Pierce do it numerous times. Must be like a weird motivation tactic. No way he was that hurt on the play. Even if the skate hit him in the head he was limping off and holding his arm. haha. Besides that i think the Canadian Jr.s thought the game was in the books at the end of the second, like i did. They are still kids and when they popped those quick two goals we just never recovered. For a team that wasnt really supposed to be in the final we were one period from gold. Its pathetic what some of you are saying  on here about this team. Yeah silver sucks. Would you rather Bronze? Congrats to Russia for pulling out a great third period and for making me laugh during the celebration. The singing and the teeth were awesome.

  561. LA Loyalist says:

    Does this mean Ron Tugnutt is the next Habs coach? He seems perfectly qualified, ‘ceptin les bon mot.


    “thought I was bummed over Habs, now it’s worse”

  562. W35T5ID3 says:

    Any one see on tsn that rumor that dreger was talking about that would send aging francois beauchemin for young talented devin setoguchi?What a farse,Only in the leafs dreams could they swap an old useless d-man for a highly skilled forward,who was a top 10 pick.Bloody tsn and them damn leaf lovers.Thye all have blue and white disease.

  563. PeterD says:

    If you were Habs GM…What would you give up for Setoguchi?

  564. Everlasting1 says:

    Was surprised to see the alternate Russian goalie get the star of the game. He did turn aside all 20 shots but only played half the game. Would have thought it’d go to Panarin who potted the first goal and the winner, or to the captain Tarasenko with the tying goal and assist on the winner.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

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Cough, please. It’s hockey season.

Training camp begins with medicals tomorrow.

Gillett passes the torch to the Molson family and their partners.

The day in Laval.

The language thing. Again.

• No captain? No problem.

Price predicts good chemistry.

Golf tournament gallery.

• From New Jersey and New York, via Four Habs Fans,  scouting reports on Brian Gionta  and Paul Mara.

The Phoenix show continues.

A Heatley deal that Bryan Murray is denying.

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One more sleep

I am TOTALLY stoked for the conference finals.

And yes, the live blog will be dusted off and revived for each of the games.

I can’t promise I’ll post as frequently (or as chemical-free) as for a Canadiens game, but the old college try will be given.

It should be off-the-charts great hockey.


My sentimental choice; the Penguins. Five Quebecers (I’m a bit of a chauvinist) and a superstar who’s in the process of grabbing the 2009 playoffs by the short fuzzies.

Sidney Crosby blew my mind in the Washington series. I had never appreciated his skill set (he hasn’t been that great against the Canadiens), but Crosby’s vision, his recognition of opportunities and instant acceleration into openings. Wow!

Then add surprising strength, toughness and an absolute refusal to lose …. especially to that Other Guy. Sid the Kid is the indisputable leader of a very talented and well-coached team.

If my man Gino shows up, I don’t think Carolina has a chance.

But that’s what Mr. Always Wrong-pants thought before the Hurricanes beat Boston. I’d have bet my house (if it were paid for) that the Bruins were going to win that Game 7 – and the result proved, once again, that if I gambled on sports I’d be living in my car.

I don’t know how Carolina does it, but their success offers hope for the Canadiens. Cam Ward is the best goaltender left in the playoffs, and maybe we’ll be saying that about Carey Price one of these years.

On the other hand, Tomas Plekanec isn’t Eric Staal. But still, a no-name defence, secondary scoring from a guy they plucked off the waiver wire, 82-year-old Rod Brind’Amour, Sergei F. Samsonov … and they’re eight wins from the Cup.

Props to Paul Maurice and the great Ron Francis for having their guys prepared every night. Carolina proves what hard work, dedication and a sound, disciplined system can accomplish.

As for the west …. well, regular readers of this blog know I love the Red Wings. And I hope I’m not alone, because of you don’t like the way Detroit plays, then you don’t like hockey.

Two anecdotes say it all about the greatest organization in hockey:

Hakan Andersson scouts his native Sweden, Finland and the Czech Republic for Detroit. He’s responsible for such steals as Henrik Zetterberg (drafted 210th overall in 199) and Jonathan Ericsson (291st: THE LAST PLAYER DRAFTED in 2002).

A few years ago the Wings wanted to pay Andersson a six-figure bonus. The scout was thankful but turned it down because, Andersson explained, he made quite enough money to live well in Sweden.

Then there’s the story about Zetterberg’s first training camp. Scrimmages begin and Darren McCarty pounds the snot out of the Swedish rookie, cheap-shoting Zetterberg all over the ice.

Afterwards, McCarty apologizes, explaining that Ken Holland, Detroit’s genius GM, had instructed him to tune the kid up and see if he could handle the NHL.

There will be a fair bit of tuning up in the Detroit-Chicago series. 

For one thing, it’s the Western Conference, where they don’t screw around. This is not Canadiens-Senators in a 7-5 hot dog fest.

The Blackhawks and Red Wings will play smash-mouth hockey – the kind that wins in the playoffs. And the young Hawks are awfully good at it.

You have to like Detroit to advance, but they survived a brutal war of attrition against Anaheim. 

Chicago is rested – and they’re utterly fearless. A big key in the series will be goaltending, and Nikolai Khabibulin has the ability to outplay Chris Osgood.

God, I love that Jonathan Toews kid. Did he lose one single puck battle against Vancouver? An NHL captain at 21. What a horse!

Something to keep an eye on: I don’t know that Detroit will have a answer for the agitators, Ben Eager (who’s become a hockey player in Chicago) and Adam Burish. Then there’s that Dustin Byfuglien kid, who’s a cheeseburger shy of 250 but can skate and score.

It should be a great series.

Just seeing those two jerseys …

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