One fan’s remarkable memory of Habs’ 1993 Cup win


I received an email this morning from Matt Baker; really a terrific story that must be shared.

Here is how Matt remembers the Canadiens’ 1993 Stanley Cup victory, won 20 years ago tonight. He was there.

Hi Dave,

First and foremost, thanks for your work.  Living in Nashville, I’d be much less involved with the Canadiens if I didn’t have your articles and your Twitter presence.  Your tweet this morning about the Habs’ last Cup win coming 20 years ago reminded me of a great story.

In the summer of 1993 I was a senior at the University of New Hampshire, one semester shy of graduating.  The fraternity I belonged to was almost all Bruins fans, save for myself and one other guy, who were diehard Habs fans.

We watched gleefully that summer as the Canadiens started to put away the Kings.  The morning of Game 5, my friend came to me and said, “Let’s go to Game 5 tonight and watch Montreal win the Cup.”  I took about two seconds to reply – absolutely.

Being students at UNH, the Montreal road trip was standard (this would be a good time to remind you of the difference in drinking ages).  We of course had no tickets, but being young and foolish, this did not deter us.  We each took out about $200 US from our bank accounts (a good amount of money back in the day) and by 10 am we were off to Montreal.

About 4 1/2 hours after leaving Durham, we made our way into the city, parked, and sought out to find a scalper.  It did not take long.  My friend Nick, who had a hockey player’s physique, handled the talking.  The scalper had only standing room only tickets in our price range, which he would sell to us for $100 US, total.

We couldn’t believe our luck!  We handed over the money, got the tickets, and celebrated knowing we were actually going to be in the building for Game 5!  We went to Peel Pub for a beer or two, and then headed to the Forum, where other Standing Room only fans were lined up.

While in line, we made small talk with other Habs fans.  Then, something terrible happened.  Someone saw our tickets, and the look on their face belied trouble.  They looked up slowly at us and said, “I’m sorry, but you bought tickets to Game 7”.

We were as angry as could be. Devastated. Here we were, maybe two hours from game time, and we had been duped into buying tickets for a game that was not likely to be played.  I wanted to cut our losses, head back to the bar.

Nick wanted to find the scalper and “demand” proper tickets (which I was pretty sure was not a good idea).  Someone else in line overheard us bemoaning the situation, and told us that we should try to go in, anyhow.  “There is a massive rush once they open the doors.  The ticket takers are pretty old and don’t pay much attention.  You could get in.  And if not, you haven’t lost anything, really.”

We decided to try. I’ll never forget the moment leading up to handing over our bogus tickets to the ticket taker.  My heart was pounding, and I was so nervous we would be denied.  It was truly a chaotic scene as people streamed in and screamed their heads off.

Within moments we were in front of the ticket taker. We handed our tickets over, he ripped them, and WE WERE IN.  I could not believe it – it worked!  We ran to the top level of the Forum, though I don’t think I could feel my legs.  We screamed with excitement.

After we got a spot, Nick held our place, and I went and called my parents back in New Hampshire – “Hey Dad, guess where I am?  The Montreal Forum!  I’m about to watch Game 5!”

The rest, as you know, is history.  There were so many other funny and scary things that happened on our adventure to Montreal.  But we won.  We won that Cup, and I was given the memory of a lifetime.

I’ve attached a picture of the “bad” ticket.  I still have it, of course.



  1. hab fan in leaf jungle says:

    When a team hasn’t won a Championship in 20 years it should be something to be ashamed about especially when the team priorly HAD such a rich history of success. Dwelling on the past is what losers and loser organizations do. There should be a rule that after 10 years you are not allowed to mention or celebrate a previous Championship. It should be as if you had never won.

  2. habstrinifan says:

    Whta’s going on in the hockey world. This weekend was a lousy sports weekend. That horse race was blah: They could just handed the French tennis to Nadal two days ago. Mtl Grand Prix was ‘follow the leader’; Some English guy from the colonies won the PGA;NBA is off..

    • habstrinifan says:

      Nice NBA is on tonight. I thought was Monday.

    • red1150 says:

      As much as I love harkening back to the halcyon days when the Habs actually won the cup, wouldn’t the fan base be better served by more content on this site reflecting draft analysis, prospect development, and looking at the UFA market. I get the history and tradition side of things, but we have a team now.

  3. habstrinifan says:

    Interesting coverage by Friedman on Roy and Avalanche.

    18. You learn something new every day: each team must submit a name or a list of names who can sign a binding contract on behalf of the organization. It can be anywhere from one to three people; usually the head of the hockey department and an assistant or two. So how is it going to work in Colorado? “You have to give a name to the NHL to say who is making trades and that’s going to be me,” Roy explained. “But Joe has the final say on hockey. I will propose things for Joe, he will make the final decision.”

    Also Roy has a no guarantee contract whatever that means.


  4. habstrinifan says:

    Friedman..30 points to ponder:

    26. Finally, MacLean said this season’s revolving door of a roster will have an immediate impact at next year’s training camp. “We got to see lots of players. It will be so competitive because many of them will be so much better. They played 15 or 20 games, some playoffs … the competition for those 23 spots is going to be tough. Who is going to show they want to be here?”

    Lets make the HABS 23 spots all open too. No guarantees.

    • Mark C says:

      That’s a cute thing for MacLean to say, I’m sure Karlsson will need to battle for this spot this fall.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Of course there are sure things but it at least gives the ‘rookies’ incentive.

        • Mark C says:

          I think the examples of Gally and Chucky making the team and “try outs” given to the rookie D should serve as more than enough incentive to rookies. MB and MT have made it pretty clear that anyone can force they’re way on the team if they play well enough.

  5. MC4Ever says:

    This is gonna be a good Stanley Cup Final — Best Goalie wins.

  6. thebonscott says:

    Apparently, new york is willing to part with strome if you take on dipietro. Can we give em kabs, weber, and gionta for strome,dipietro, and draft picks, whadya think
    Then buy out dipsh!t of course

  7. Phil C says:

    WRT to the average height and weight stat, it is not completely accurate, but it is usually a good guideline.

    The fact is Chicago are one of the smaller teams in the league, even if you factor in TOI, with guys like Keith and Kane playing huge minutes. Boston and LA would have an even bigger size advantage if you factored in TOI.

    I think the obvious conclusion is that you don’t have to be the biggest team if you have more talent and you have enough balance between your bigger and smaller players. Conversely, size is useless unless it comes with some talent.

    That being said, I think Montreal needs to get a little bigger, but I’m thinking one or two defensemen, and one or two forwards. No need to trade every guy under 5’11”.

    • habstrinifan says:

      On Bruins roster 4 frwds under 6; 2D men under 6:

      On CHI roster 3 fwds under 6; 0 D under 6:

      On MTL roster 6 fwds under 6; 3 D under 6:

      It’s not straight size or average etc.. it’s the acknowledged ohysicality of the team… and whether they are at a disadvantage because of it.

      CHI is not MTL is.

      As per team site.

  8. Sportfan says:

    That was a short race!

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  9. adamkennelly says:

    Prolly been talked about already but $5M per for 2 years for Goncahr in Dallas – who the hell thought that was a good idea? Gainey somehow involved?

  10. IMHO says:

    Habs should take a page from Boston and chicago’s book for rebuilding.

  11. habs001 says:

    Yes the Habs need a physical d to clear the front of the net…But the Habs also lack d who can contribute 5/5…In the playoffs you need d that can pinch and help out the scoring 5/5…But that type of d has to be physical because he has to be able to hand out punishment and take punishment in the opposition zone…The only d that the Habs have that can provide 5/5 scoring is PK but he is still restrained by coaching…He was involved way more in the offense 5/5 at the one world championship game than in most Habs games….pp goals are way harder to score in the playoffs so the Habs other scoring d Markov would have minimal value in the playoffs if he remains the 5/5 player he was in the regular season where his 5/5 scoring contributions was not much more than Gorges….

    • christophor says:

      Actually, the Habs D produced really well 5v5. Also, physical engagement by defencemen in the O-zone is almost nil. There’s 100 times more physical engagement in the D-zone: retrieving the puck before rushing forwards do, containing the cycle, pushing forwards to the outside, clearing the net, etc. The Habs defence was not good at these things last year (though I think it was actually a team-D problem with forwards not deployed/engaged appropriately defensively). It’s a **D-zone** problem, not an O-zone one. In fact, a secondary worry is that in remaking the D to meet these needs, the Habs might sacrifice their D’s great O-Zone production from last year. In other words, what you’re saying is a weakness is actually a strength that I hope they don’t sacrifice just to get bigger. I’m not saying that if they get bigger on D, they won’t produce, but that big, useless lunks won’t produce. PK and Emelin, for example, aren’t small or push overs but they also aren’t out of place on the rush or in the O-zone.

  12. Stevie.Ray says:

    Do you think SJ would consider moving Big Joe this summer? I read that because of the cap being lower and because of the compliance buyouts, there could be more trading being done. My friend is a Oilers fan and he proposed.

    Joe Thornton for Sam Gagner, the 2013 first round pick, and a good conditional pick if Joe signs an extension.

    I think having Thornton would finally legitimize the Oilers top 6 as one of the best in the league.

  13. SmartDog says:

    Okay, I wanna sign up for this buyout thing.

    Then I wanna go to San Jose or someplace sunny and for a million bucks be “good in the room”. Uh, just to make sure… which room exactly do I need to be good in?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  14. habstrinifan says:

    Question? Lots of talk about buyouts. With the buyout coming into full force next season doesnt a) the team still owns the player’s rights b) player must go thru waivers or be traded if picked up by another team c) if picked up the team gets some sort of non monetary compensation?

    • HabFab says:

      a) no – becomes an UFA after buy-out
      b) see a)
      c) see a)

      Trin, not sure where you are coming from with the Q?? – I’m so confused!!

      • habstrinifan says:

        Thanks. If player becomes a UFA right away then no confusion.

        Seems to me Gomez was placed on waivers.. then bought out.. then became a free agent… then signed with SJS.

        If pre-requisite for ‘buy-out’ is a waiver process then with the re-introduced ‘sharing of salary should affect the number of buyouts. Why drop a player if you can pay 2/3 of his salary send him to another club and get some return.
        For example why ‘buy out’ Kaberle if you can ‘trade him’, pay part of his salry and get say a 6th rnd pick or a minor leaguer who you want to gamble on.

        • HabFab says:

          Can’t remember but the Habs may have put Gomez on waivers first to see if there were any teams interested in taking him as is…would have saved them millions.

    • B says:

      So now 35% of the revenue from all playoff home games goes into the revenue sharing pot. If the Habs made let’s say $2M per home game, then $0.7M of the $4M for their 2 playoff home games this season went into the RS pot. Is the remaining 65% added to the overall revenues from which the Hab’s must contribute a significant amount of their share into the RS pot? I wonder just how the Habs now have to cough up in total every season?

      –Go Habs Go!–

  15. habstrinifan says:

    Plekanec is currently and if nothing changes our best offensive centre. Very good hockey people say this.
    Golf is such a wonderful pastime in June.

  16. Sportfan says:

    Jerred Smithson Will be a UFA unless the Compilers sign him, would he be a good 1-2 year deal for the team?

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    • Ron says:

      Why ? He is a collective -38 in his NHL career. Might get a point every 7 games. Abit of size but that is sort of washed out with his play. He is also 35.

  17. Sportfan says:

    So possible buyouts are Richards, Horcoff, Hemsky, Briere, Bryz, Fleury (maybe?) Kaberle, Luongo. Am I missing anyone?

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    • commandant says:




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      • 24 Cups says:

        Havlat and Heatley are two other buyout candidates that Montréal might want to look at on a one year, low ball offer.

        Holds the fort until Kristo and Collberg are ready to play in the NHL.

        • HabFab says:

          Those two plus Ohlund depends on if they are healthy enough. Believe the window is short for the buy outs.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Frank – With only two teams left, I’m pretty sure that most teams will have made up their mind. I think the window is somewhere in the 48-72 hour range. Then the players become UFAs with rest of the “natural” UFAs. They all must go into the free agency pool together.

            The large number of UFAs, as well as a 64M cap, means that only a certain number of teams will be in the running.

            I’m still hoping that Montreal is only looking at the 2nd tier of UFAs who will accept a one or two year deal.

            Ohlund hasn’t played in two years. I’m not sure that Tampa can buy out an injured player. They’ll just do what Philly did with Laperriere.

          • HabFab says:

            Steve, Ohland plus Heatley in Minnesota being healthy enough during the buy-out period are those two teams pipe dream.

    • HabFab says:

      Montador and Olesz

      A couple of other teams have players buried in the minors also.

      Lee and Ohlund

    • Maritime Ron says:

      2 guys from Vancouver maybe Booth and Ballard

    • Sportfan says:

      Thanks guys!

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  18. issie74 says:

    Note to the guys skating around on the ice,mugging is interference.

    Boston is masterful in that department.


    • EricInStL says:

      Hey if the NHL allows it then do it. And if you want to see proper hockey then go watch something else since this is the way it is. Always has, always will.

      The NHL says one thing does another.

  19. HabFab says:

    St Louis will match offer sheets on their 4 big RFA’s;
    I wonder if they would take our 1st for Chris Stewart??

  20. HabFab says:

    Not sure where the first one went but Brooks doesn’t paint Clowe as being very healthy. “The cost of re-upping Clowe, the 30-year-old winger who is believed to have sustained a pair of concussions in a matter of 16 days bridging the season and the playoffs (and is suspected to have suffered an earlier concussion while with San Jose before coming to the Blueshirts prior to the deadline), will be more than the dollars on the contract.

    For if the Rangers re-sign Clowe, the big-bodied winger who had trouble keeping up with the pace before going down in Game 47 at Carolina, the club will be obligated to send a second-round pick to the Sharks in 2014 (instead of a No. 5) in addition to the second and third in 2013 already sent San Jose’s way.

    Way too costly, by any measure.”

  21. commandant says:

    Tallest team in the NHL = Perennial playoff disappointment San Jose.

    Chicago is 29th in Height. Boston 21st.

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    • Whatever says:

      How’s the shortest team doing?

    • twilighthours says:

      It’s possible that the mean doesn’t accurately describe the data set.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      A stat such as that is really meaningless.
      It’s similar to one saying the average size of the Boston Defence is 6’1-209 lbs.

      What is forgotten is that 6’9″ 255 Chara is on the ice for almost 30 minutes – he is on the ice for 1/2 the game.
      Johnny Boychuk at 6’2″-225 is on the ice for over 23 minutes.

      Tiny 5’9-180 lbs Dman Tory Krug skews those numbers, yet plays the least amount of Even Strength minutes of all Boston Dmen.

      • Price07 says:

        Way to go Ron! I laugh when people pull out stats, because while they do provide a rough idea of reality, it certainly isn’t reality. Boston’s team is generally very big and tough. Chicago is not as big but with go to guys like Toews Bickell Handzus Hjalmarsson who are all pretty big, their team has the necessary size.

        Its like when the habs had hal Gill, the average height of their defense was “ok” but take out a 6’7 guy and then you see what you’re really working with! Same things with the GAA stat, a goalie has a few really bad games and his GAA is greatly affected. Same if he has a few shutouts where he didn’t actually do any work but the big zeros bring his GAA down.

        Take all stats with a grain of salt!

        • commandant says:

          If anything the Bruins average is lower today than it was, as those numbers are from before Krug was added to the active roster.

          So no, Krug is not skewing the numbers I posted.

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          • Maritime Ron says:

            That may be so, but you did not adress ToI ratios/percentages

          • commandant says:

            Obviously a factor, but not one that i can find the numbers on for all 30 teams, so I don’t know what they average there. They do have guys like Bergeron, Kreijci, Marchand who play a lot of minutes up front too. While Shawn Thornton plays few.

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        • habstrinifan says:

          Agreed! Especially those who want to describe Chicago as small to justify Mtl’s group of player. Also simple size stat dont tell ‘how’ the player plays. No once can say Pacioretty consistently plays ‘big’ per se.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            Exactly. It’s why the Habs won’t draft Anthony Mantha.

          • commandant says:

            How the player plays is entirely my point Trini. You don’t measure grit and heart on a scale.

            Montreal needs more grit a guy who clears the crease and a guy who goes to the net and causes havoc. Of that I have no doubt. But its not measured in inches and pounds.

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    • pmaraw says:

      this is not basketball. it’s okay to have 1, maybe two big lanky guys on the ice, but not at the same time imo and only because of the smaller nhl ice. I’m not saying I dont’ want the habs to get bigger, but, I’d prefer bulk over height

  22. SmartDog says:

    Serious question here – not the usual tomfoolery and speculation!
    As Phil C points out below, DD is paid like a 3rd line center. And of course with Pleks and Eller and (soon) Chucky in our line up – or even just 2 of those guys, DD is very possibly 3rd on the depth chart.

    So here’s the question:
    Q: Can DD be a 3rd line center? I mean isn’t your 3rd line a shut-down or grind line? It just seems obvious he’s as much that guy as Chara is a first line center.

    To me, the signing of DD to a 4 year contract so obviously doesn’t make sense… it’s a waste of a salary on a guy there’s no room for and who doesn’t have the versatility (unlike all of our other centers) to play another role. And unless he can repeat the ONE good season he’s had, he’s also untradeable.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • commandant says:

      Third lines dont have to be shut down lines anymore

      Most teams (like the Habs with Plekanec) are using a top 6 line in matchups

      The model is less top 6/Bottom 6 and more top 9/bottom 3 now

      As for the salary making sense, it is a tradeable salary, so we keep the asset as a stop gap until AG27 is ready and then we can trade him. The alternative was refusing him arbitration and getting nothing in return

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      • habstrinifan says:

        Plekanec is another hybrid that HABS has to decide what his true value is going forward.

        • commandant says:

          hybrid offence/defence guys are found throughout the league.

          Kesler, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Bergeron, Thornton, M. Koivu, Toews, Weiss, M. Richards, Staal, there are more… just a small
          sample of how teams are matching lines these days with their best (or 2nd best) offensive centres.

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          • habstrinifan says:

            I wont go look up stats for they probably will show that Plekanec stands equal or better than players like Bergeron, Toews,Datsyuk. However I (just my opinion) dont put Plekanec in the same level as those players.
            By hybrid, I meean Habs need to answer the question. Is Plekanec a scorer? Is he a checker? Or keep using him as jack of all trades who, either because of fatigue o linemates or whatever, seems to just reach a level and no higher. An dthat level to me is not high enough for an NHL team’s #1 offensive centre.

    • Phil C says:

      Most teams have a grinding third line centre because that is all they can afford. Why not have a 2a and 2b scoring lines?

      He was on pace for 48 points this season. That would put in in the top forty among centres in the league. Is that not a good season? He did that without a full time RWer and sharing his 5-on-5 time with Eller.

      The Art Ross trophy winner is 5.08 176 lbs. Could he not be on your team?

      Look, DD is not God’s gift to hockey, but he is more useful than most give him credit for. The Habs are poorly constructed up front with three small guys in their top nine. That is a bigger problem than any one particular player. Maybe DD is the one to go, maybe not.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        A question for you.
        DD had the 3rd most PP minutes for Habs forwards after only Gionta and Plex.
        Anyone with a set of eyes knows that Eller should have been at least the 2nd wave if not 1st from at least Game 15 and on.

        DD had 138:42 of PP time
        Eller had 32: 28 of PP time
        With all that time, he only had 2 PP goals and 5 PP assists – and that is a lousy performance.

        DD brought nothing to the PP. He hardly won a puck battle and was knocked off the puck or fell on the ice more often than not.

        If you take away those PP minutes that were undeserved and unearned as the year went on, what do you have left?

        • commandant says:

          You have a guy who put up good points at Even Strength and would be fine in the third line role with less PP time going forward?

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          • Maritime Ron says:

            Perhaps we’ll have to agree to disagree.
            On my team, I just don’t believe or like the idea of a weak skating Center measuring 5’7″-177 with an absolute need to play with 2 big wingers – and that also gets moved off the puck with ease.
            Does he have nice vision and some smarts?
            Of course he does…as just about every other top 9 center in the NHL.
            I wish him well….

    • Mark C says:

      Everyone’s en vogue roster model is Boston, who before the Campbell injury were using Peverly-Kelly-Seguin has their 3rd line. Nice line, but I wouldn’t classify it as a shutdown or grind line.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I dont think we ave to follow Boton. Just use plain ol hockey commonsense and determine the players niche in building your team.. and if you just dont have a ‘type’ of player dont fool yourself by playing musical chairs with your lineup.

    • habstrinifan says:

      No to your answer. I posted as such many weeks ago when someone suggested that DD’s salary is justified because he will be our 3rd line centre and a good 3rd line centre is paid as much.

      What I said then and believe now.. if DD is not on the #1 or #2 line then he is a bench player… if he is our 3rd line centre then we are simply fooling around about building a team.

      Either DD is good enough to be a #1 or 2 or unfortunately just a marginal bench player.

  23. Sportfan says:

    So the Kings weren’t big enough guys thats how they lost 😛

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  24. twilighthours says:

    1) That was a great story. Wonderful.

    2) I see that wjc is being an idiot today

  25. habsfan0 says:

    Any news on a new goalie coach for the Habs?
    I heard Johnny Bower’s available.
    I’m sure Carey Price would feel comfortable with him as well.

  26. HH, Here are the possible 2 lines for each team?

    Chi-Bickell -6’4″/233 lbs -Toews -6’2″/208 lbs -Kane -5’11″/181 lbs

    Keith- 6’1″/210 lbs – Seabrook- 6’3″/221 lbs

    Chi-Hossa – 6’1″/210 lbs -Handzus-6’5″/215 lbs-Sharp-6’1″/199 lbs

    Oduya – 6’0″/190 lbs – Hjalmasson – 6’3″/207 lbs

    Bos-Lucic-6’4″/220 lbs-Krejci-6’0″/188 lbs-Horton-6’2″/229 lbs

    Chara- 6’9″/255 lbs – Sidenberg- 6’1″/210 lbs

    Bos-Marchand-5’9″/183 lbs-Bergeron-6’2″/194 lbs-Jagr-6’3″/240lbs

    Boychuk- 6’2″/225 lbs – Ference- 5’11″/189 lbs


    • HardHabits says:

      Thanks. There in lies one of the reasons why the Habs have a bit of work to do until they become perennial contenders.

      Force = mass (size and grit) x acceleration (speed and skill)

  27. commandant says:

    Jimmy Lodge, a RW/C from the Saginaw Spirit

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  28. HardHabits says:

    I am hard pressed to believe that the Habs will ever win a Cup with Desharnais and Plekanec as the 1-2 punch at centre.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Unfortunately,MB seems to have a different opinion.

    • commandant says:

      Well then its a good thing that within 2 years (max) Alex Galchenyuk will be our number 1 center

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    • Habfan17 says:

      I agree! Maybe in time with Galchenyuk and Eller.


    • Phil C says:

      DD is paid as 3rd line centre, so suspect that’s where he slots in. Plekanec is a very good number 2 centre. I am pretty sure Chicago would take him over Handzus right now.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Do you think they would take him for Beach and a 2nd round pick


        • ProHabs says:

          Does Beach still have some potential or is he a bust.

          • Habfan17 says:

            From what I can find on him, he is doing much better now. It took him a while but he seems to be putting things together. He played 66 games for Rockford this past season and had 16 goals, 26 points and 204 pims. At worst he could replace Moen on the 4th line, at best, move up to the 3rd line. Still, he is 23 and would give the Habs the kind of player they are missing.


          • commandant says:

            I would not trade our best (currently) offensive centre for a 23 year old possible bust and a 2nd round pick

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          • Habfan17 says:

            @ commandant – I guess we will see. MB would know more about him than you or I.


          • commandant says:

            Fair enough…. but as far as I can tell, I missed the part where MB is posting on H I/O and was proposing this trade.

            If the deal actually is done, we can reevaluate with MB’s thoughts in mind. As of right now, neither of us know what he thinks.

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          • Ozmodiar says:

            Pleks for Beach + 2nd is a redonkulous trade proposal.

            /that is all

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Full 82 game schedule next year
      We’ll see if Eller can continue his progress and hopefully not be affected by that hit…
      Chuckie will probably be inserted into C sometime during the year.

      If BOTH work out well, only then will MB begin to have options.
      I would never bet against Eller and Chuckie taking over, yet for the moment, still much to be proven.
      Sit tight

      • Habfan17 says:

        I think they should play Chucky as the 3rd line centre with Gallagher and Prust for the whole season. That way he can learn the nuances of playing centre in the NHL and possibly be ready for the first line
        by 2014. That would creat a problem though since I believe Eller should be at centre on the 2nd line and then Pleks could play the first line…unlesss he is traded for a left winger. Then I suppose keeping DD for one more season would have to do!


    • CanadienBoy says:

      Wounder if Roy would trade is 1 rder for Price

  29. Phil C says:

    My shallow analysis of the Chi-Bos match up:

    Forwards – Advantage Chicago. I think their top players are more skilled than Bostons, although both teams can send out 4 pretty good lines.

    Size- Significant advantage for Boston. Will it matter? We’ll see…

    Defense – Boston are bigger, Chicago are more skilled offensively. Push.

    Goaltending – Crawford has been solid, but Rask has been better. Advantage Boston

    Coaching – Julien completely outcoached Bylsma, but Quenneville will not show the same inability to adjust. The Hawks were able to dissect Detroit’s game plan and find a way to win, I suspect they will do the same to Boston. Advantage Chicago.

    Chicago in six.

  30. frontenac1 says:

    @barts. Station 10! Barclay Allen”s fine establishment. Great memories amigo. Saludos!

    • boing007 says:

      Saw Jump in the Pool play there many years ago. Ring a bell?

      Richard R

      • frontenac1 says:

        I remember getting hammered there with some Alouettes that I knew back in the 70″s. I also remember Gainey, Murray Wilson,Chartraw and a few other Habs used to come in once in a while on Saturday night after the games at the Forum. Beyond that, well,…. you know. Saludos!

  31. Habfan17 says:

    The Islanders are near or below the cap floor and will be losing Streit this season. I wonder if they would entertain a trade of
    Diaz, Weber, Holland and, yes, Kaberle for Neiderreiter, Leduc and
    a 3rd round pick this draft? Then the Habs could trade Gorges since leduc is a right handed 6’6″ player. Either he or Pateryn could fill in to start the season. Imagine Tinordi with Subban and Beaulieu with Leduc, then Dietz and Stoner.


    • commandant says:

      With the floor dropping the Isles wont be below it the moment they sign a goalie (either re-sign Nabokov or someone else)

      Go Habs Go!
      Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Islanders are just $8M below the Cap Floor and need to sign 2 goalies and RFAs Josh Bailey and Travis Hamonic.
      They could also opt to bring up guys like Nelson, Niederreiter, or Dman Rinehart and that would get them easily to the Cap Floor

      As for the goalies, you never know what may happen with possible Compliance Buyouts ( Bryzgalov? Fleury? Luongo?) or cheaper trades for bad contracts as a team can now hold on to a max 50% Salary/Cap Hit.

      No doubt their phone will be ringing.
      I still get a kick out of seeing Yashin’s Cap Hit of $2.2M still on the books this year and next.

      • Habfan17 says:

        It is fun to see them still paying for Yashin, and Dipietro. Two dumb contracts. They still will need to replace Streit and add some experience on the back end. They could also use some experience up front.


  32. Ian Cobb says:

    Does Chicago have enough to beat the Neanderthals in the finals ??
    This whole enjoyable season for us this year, would not taste as good if the Boston beans won the Cup! Proving again that in the play offs, brawn and bullies win against speed and talent, under these now NHL rules! Garbage hockey when the Broad Street Bears play! Go Chicago Go.

    HIO fan contact site…..Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments

  33. Here are the stats of avg hgt & wgt per team.

    Bos Fwd’s – 6′ 1″ / 205 lbs

    Chi Fwd’s – 6′ 0″ / 200 lbs

    Bos “D” – 6′ 1″ / 209 lbs

    Chi “D” – 6′ 1″ / 205 lbs

    Those stats makes for a very interesting Cup Final.

    Go Hawks Go!!!

    • HardHabits says:

      Better to take the averages of the top two lines and top two defensive pairings.

      Including the heights of players who play less time than others is skewing data.

      • Phil C says:

        If we take the averages of the top two lines, the size advantage will be even more significant for the Bruins.

        This match up is a good test of how important size really is.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        For 40% of the available minutes for Dmen in a regulation game, the Hawks will face 6’9″-255 Chara and 6’2″-225 Boychuck

        • HardHabits says:

          I’d like to see the actual average weight/height chart based on the percentage of TOI played. I would wager that the Habs are a much smaller team than a simple average of all players suggests.

          • Maritime Ron says:

            Total minutes available for Dmen is 120 (2 positions X60 minutes) and forwards is 180.
            Take the player ToI and divide.

  34. Barts says:

    Great story. I was there, with a friend who was playing college hockey at the time, and went on to play many years in the NHL…but we didn’t get into the building; couldn’t find tickets, not for a lack of trying. Soaked up the atmosphere watching some of the game in the tavern that Yvon Lambert ran in the corner of the Forum. You could hear the roar of the crowd from there, I’ll never forget that place. Watched the final period at Station 10, a block away on St. Cat’s. I will remember the final two minutes forever, still getting goosebumps as I type this. What a night. Thanks for sharing Matt’s story Dave.

  35. HabFab says:

    An interview with Trevor Timmins on RDS, interview is in English;

  36. Maritime Ron says:

    Interesting little note in the new CBA that states the ‘possibility’ to expand the playoffs an extra short round.

    Section 16.2 Page 100

    “If the League desires to implement a Playoff Qualification Round with respect to future NHL Season(s), it may only do so with the consent of the NHLPA, which shall not be unreasonably withheld.”

    It appears the top 6 in each Conference would qualify, then the next 4 teams would play a best 3 to decide who makes up the final 8 playoff teams in each Conference

    “…Playoff “Qualification Round” preliminary to the Playoffs, which will consist of one (1) round involving four (4) Clubs in each Conference, with each series in the round having a maximum of three (3) games, with the winner of each series advancing to the Playoffs.”

    • Led says:

      Hey Ron

      Does this idea bug you as much as it does me?

      I understand why they would do it (additional revenue, fan interest) but don’t we already have a “playoff qualification round” called the regular season? Why fight all season to prove you’re 7th or 8th only to have to do it again in a mini-series?

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Absolutely bugs me.
        That would then put 20 of 30 teams in the playoffs.
        I have an inkling that would only start once the League moves to 32 teams…shortly

        • Led says:

          It won’t bug me as much if the league expands (again!) but I could accept it more if it were re-worked a bit. By that I mean that all 4 division winners are rewarded with a playoff spot and a bye, then the remaining teams play the qualification round.

          The words of my late father keep ringing in my ears; “there’s too many playoff teams, why do they even bother playing the regular season”.

  37. SmartDog says:

    Good story, but where are the peelers?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  38. boing007 says:

    Smurf scores Hat Trick, Hawks win in overtime. Stanley Cup awaits.

    Patrick Kane 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
    Weight 181 lb (82 kg; 12 st 13 lb)

    Richard R

  39. wjc says:

    Wow! Seven soft goals last night. Quick killed his team with that first one, elite goalies should not let those in.


  40. Coca Cola Kid says:

    What an awesome memory

  41. habstrinifan says:

    OK… so what’s inspiring about this story?

  42. JohnBellyful says:

    Now I know how Hillary felt.
    (Except I’m going to sit still and let an Everest of comment rise above me.)

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