O’B traded

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Ryan O’Byrne has been traded to Colorado for Michaël Bournival.

The deal takes O’B's $941,667 cap hit off the Canadiens’ books.

Bournival is an 18-year-old centre from Shawinigan who was Colorado’s third-round choice, 71st overall, in the 2010 draft.

He’s 6′, 190 lbs and shoots Left.

In his first season with the Cataractes, Bournival scored 11 goals and added 11 assists in 46 games. Last season, his production jumped to 24 goals and 38 assists.

Through 17 games in the Q this season, Bournival has 10 goals and 14 assists.

Video scout Jarred Friedman found a highlight reel

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From Buzzing the Net:

He’s not the most well-known name in the Q.

But
Bournival, off to a hot start with 24 points in 17 games, turned in a
solid all-around game, hustling both ways and scoring a goal. Playing on
a line with a pair of 2011 NHL draft prospects in Jonathan Huberdeau
and captain Sean Couturier, Bournival one-timed home a nice setup from
Huberdeau to put QMJHL ahead 3-2 in the second period.

“He hasn’t
been on the radar a whole lot but everybody has the same opinion of him,
he’s just an excellent hockey player,” veteran scout Kevin Prendergast said. “He’s not
great at anything, but he’s good at everything. I think we’ll probably
want to have a look and see if he’s versatile. Can he play the wings as
(well) as playing centre too? We think the centre situation is going to
be taken, but he’s got the kind of hockey sense and the grit that we
think he has a chance to maybe be part of the camp.”

Hockey’s Future says:

Possesses the ability to play in all three zones and a no-quit, win at
any cost attitude.  Bournival might not be the most talented player
available, but his work ethic and dedication will help ensure that he
becomes a viable NHL prospect.

Gotta like that.

477 Comments

  1. Storm Man says:

    The post of the year to this point. Glad you point out the Halak sheep herder.

  2. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    He also had a penchant for strangers purses……

  3. HardHabits says:

    Let us know when you give up your membership to the Habs should’ve kept Halak or at least been able to get a top 6 forward in return crowd.

  4. Storm Man says:

    Rabbit the HIO pundit, Mr No Objectivity, The Analysis “Du Jour” . Don’t be upset with me as more and more people on here see you for who you are. The oxygen must be running a little low for you today.

  5. Storm Man says:

    Is he not on the IR?

  6. Bugs says:

    Ferpetessakes, Double-H, what’s with the snark all of a sudden? This wasn’t you.

    What’s happened to you?

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  7. Bugs says:

    He had four years, mate…

    C’mon.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  8. Rugger says:

    Hello Lou, we are clearing cap space so you can send Parise our way!

  9. HardHabits says:

    I am happy about the trade too but for different reasons. I am happy because the Habs clear up cap space and get a decent prospect for their 8th defensemen depth-wise. Have fun at ObiInsideOut.

  10. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Its League orders, not player creativity. Just sayin’you can’t say a guy is a class act because he does what the league and/or team told him to do.

     

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  11. TripleX says:

    I am actually happy about the trade.  O’Byrne finally gets to play a game.

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  12. Bugs says:

    Well, Jack Marty can get us to the ECF. That’s not too bad.

    If he can do that, I can live with the other stuff.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  13. Mark C says:

    And Halak in the 9th round! Montreal did well to get what they did out of O’Byrne as 3rd round picks are a real toss up.

  14. habitual says:

    Subban is a star who has played well since his first game, and who will develop under the auspicies of the three stooges.

    Pleks line is clearly feeling the effects of AK off of it and if you had been watching, he isn’t scoring anywhere near like he was with Pleks.

    Gionta playing better? He has one goal since joining that line.

     

     

  15. matraque says:

    All 1st Stars throws puck in the crowd.  That’s a new thing.

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  16. HardHabits says:

    Where have you been lately, like the last 3 months? I’ve been so cheery these days people think the real HH has been kidnapped and replaced with an impostor!!!

  17. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Oh please…that stuff is coreographed by the team not the player. Just like AK throwing the pucks to the crowd.

     

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  18. Storm Man says:

    Where on the world map is this Colarado place?

  19. habfan53 says:

    AK and Laps were also drafted in 2003 10th and 61st overall

  20. HardHabits says:

    I am sure you’ll be bringing us daily reports.

  21. Corporate says:

    Thanks you for the post. For once a positive one. 

  22. ctony says:

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I agree with you verbatum

     

  23. Corporate says:

    Um… Let us see what you havae said. 

    Martin can’t develop younger players, and he can’t do anything with struggling vets

    He can’t develop younger players?.Well Subban is doing a bang up job. Eller isn’t playing that bad either considering he is getting limited ice time. As for struggling vets, He put Kostitsyn with Gomez to spice up the line. Kostitsyn is still playing a decent game but the Gomez cheesy passes have to stop. So until Gomez hmself realizes that he is the problem, nothing will change. as for Gionta, he has been playing better since he has been with Pleks. 

     

     

  24. HardHabits says:

    You need to massage your Habs spot. It appears to be sore.

  25. adamkennelly says:

    anyone even mentioning Bill Guerin needs to give their head a shake.  If PG actually makes that move it will prove he has no idea what he is doing.  Guerin is too old and too slow- period.  Good news is that our team record means there is no need to panic.  There are teams out there with CAP issues – I would assume PG is talking to them.

     

     

  26. habfan53 says:

    That is the BAD news  Montreal has FAILED to develop any draft choice in the last 5 years. Price in playing well this year inspite of the Canadiens not because of them it was will learning to rodeo that he changed his practice routine last summer. 

    On Defence only Subban was drafted by Montreal, (2007) and up front AK, Laps were drafted in 2003 and Plekanecs in 2001.

    That is a total of 5 drafted players on their roster

  27. TripleX says:

    Respectfully disagree Mr. Boone.  He was mishandled and his confidence destroyed in Montreal.  We always talk about potential and greater upside of players in Montreal.  Well O’Byrne has way more of both than Picard.  Watch O’Byrne become the player some of us always believed he could be in Colorado.

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  28. rgallagher says:

    A few thoughts…

    • I’m guessing he’s closser to 5’10″ than 6’1″ players/teams always exagerate their height;
    • Reading some Bios and scouting reports on him, it appears he plays bigger than his size and has some offencive pottectial based on what he’s done in the Q
    • This clears up some much needed cap space (what are they doing about Boyd?)
    • Contrary to what some others here believe I don’t think this is another failure in bringing along a good prospect.  He’s way too nervous with the puck and often found himself out of position.  For a big man that is a fatal flaw in the league now, he just doesn’t have the speed to save himself when he finds himself in a those situations.  He was given a fair chance and the numbers worked against him in Montreal.
    • He may very well develop into a solid defensive defenseman but they are easier to find and trade for than a gritty forward who plays hard and can score.

    This is a good pick up and we won’t miss him much with the guys we have now and in Hamilton.

     

  29. Matthew says:

    I truly hope he does well with Colorado as he is class act all around. What classy gesture it was to give his jersey to Butch Bouchard right before his number was retired…

  30. ctony says:

    I fault management constantly about not developing picks.  But I think OB had a fair chance.  He played 14-15 minutes per game, 30-50 games a year for the past three years and didn’t seem to develop.  He’s a 5,6,7 defenseman making $1m.

     

    A  top pick rookie like Tinordi counts less than that and older veterans (like Picard) can be  signed for less.  In a salary cap world, it doesn’t make  of sense to keep him on the roster whether his plays or sits.  

     

    This was a good, thoughtful deal.  


     


     

     

  31. HardHabits says:

    I am very impressed with the stable of prospects the Habs are assembling. It’s good to see the positive posters point out the obvious:

    1) French Canadian prospect, not under 6 feet tall, point per game player, competitor

    2) Habs clear up cap space

    A win tonight and I’ll be having a beatific vision.

    Oh yeah. Forgot to mention:

    3) The Habs are Smurfs crowd are up in arms. I wonder what Xtra has to say about this?

  32. WestHab says:

    Yep. OB had to get a full time spot beofre PK made his way up. The clock ran out.

  33. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    WOW, I didn’t realise that.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  34. WarHero says:

    Totally agree :)

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  35. habitual says:

    So, Martin can’t develop younger players, and he can’t do anything with struggling vets …

    Exactly what is it that Martin can do?

    Having broken the chemistry of Plec’s line, our best line now is Halperin, Darche, and Pouliot  …

    Thank Christ Price is playing well …

  36. WestHab says:

    It”s not enough to be just big anymore. What OB had in size he lacked in speed. That’s where Picard out played OB. I like Ryan and I hope he gets a spot where he plays most nights.

  37. Say Ash says:

    Good to know…

  38. Mark C says:

    Boyd contract is currently off the cap.

  39. Mike Boone says:

    O’B is a fine fellow. But he’s a third-round draft choice who keeps making the same mistakes and taking the same dumb and ill-timed penalties. He was projected as Mike Komisarek’s replacement and never lived up to that hope. Alexandre icard is a better, more reliable and cheaper seventh Dman.

  40. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    PLOP…the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  41. Corporate says:

    Well… Let’s see…

    Halak, Price, Plekanec, Lapierre, Pyatt, A. Kos… Not too bad… Now there are gambles and I admit we have dropped the ball on a few occasions. But O’Byrne this year was the 6th or 7th Defenceman and it was his to lose. He lost it to Picard. So you now what, we are better off him leaving than having a player on the sidelines that doesn’t play. 

  42. Hockey Socks says:

    I don’t think they’ve decided yet if they want to send him down to Hamilton or not.

  43. Mark C says:

    If it makes you feel any better only Colin Fraser, Dan Carcillo, Clarke MacArthur, Alex Picard, and Zach Stortini have played in more NHL games than O’Byrne has from his draft round (3rd in 2003). Picard and Stortini were the only ones picked after O’Byrne.

  44. BJT says:

    Haunt us how? Will this push the Avs. over the top so they beat us in the cup finals this year? And who do you think we should’ve subbed off for him so he can “develop properly”? Subban? Markov? Spacek? Hamr? Gorges? Gill? I think not.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  45. shiram says:

    So what was that post 6 minutes ago??

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  46. gumper says:

    But think of how long it took Gill to stop being “pylon who plays for the Leafs”, to learn his limitations and play within them. Would you have that much patience to wait for Rhino to arrive at that point?

  47. habfan53 says:

    Before saying anything I will wait to see (hear) what Patrick Roy has to say 

  48. ooder says:

    and Picard

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    88 is the new 23

  49. PureGuava says:

    They’ll shoot you if you’re caught stealing a purse in Colarado…

  50. Habfan29 says:

    Agree, OB never got a fair shake with the Habs, I think that this deal will come back to haunt us. If he had been give the opportunity to play more often I believe that he would have been a top 6 D-man with the habs. Poor development once again by the habs. I don’t know about you but I am sick of this crap with the habs…..

  51. gumper says:

    Ya gotta think this is as much about clearing cap space as it is about stocking the farm system. Pg now has (potentially, depending on what happens to Boyd) an extra 2 million to play with that he didn’t have last week.

  52. samTHEman says:

    With Boyd waived and OB traded, could they be clearing up some space to sign a top 6 winger? Guerin?

    By the way, is Boyd’s contract still counting against the cap?

  53. HabFanSince72 says:

    Have you ever actually seen O’Byrne play? Zdeno Chara he ain’t.

    And he’s not a prospect anymore. Remember, O’Byrne is actually older than Josh Gorges.

     

  54. forskis says:

    I tend to agree….I had him pegged as the team’s eventual Hal Gill replacement…I just hope that this does not mean that Tinordi gets rushed.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  55. shiram says:

    Well then the good news is that they get another chance at developping a prospect with this Bournival kid!


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  56. habfan53 says:

    Although not unexpected I feel this is another failure by the Canadiens to developpe a draft pick.  

  57. ooder says:

    is he 6″1, 5″10 or 5″11 everywhere i go i see different stats for his height

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    88 is the new 23

  58. BJT says:

    Imagine having him, Leblanc, and Gallagher on the WJ team this year. That would be amazing, I don’t think I’ve ever seen more than 1 Habs prospect on the team at any time before.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  59. shiram says:

    I dont know that Bournival kid, but hopefully that will give some ice time ot OB, and he can blossom elsewhere maybe.

    And we get a french prospect back, so thats pretty good, for the media at least.

    Another center though…


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  60. TripleX says:

    Montreal will regret this deal I think.  O’Byrne is the big physical Dman who will drop the gloves that Montreal has needed for years.  Hope the Montreal backend stays healthy.

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  61. boneheadslanger33 says:

    Should have traded him for Halak…

  62. Propwash says:

    All the best Rhino!

  63. thebigguy says:

    Classy move. Obyrne was no longer getting a shot here. Considering the 7 defencemen we have in the NHL plus the players we got in the AHL. Glad they gave him his shot elsewhere.

  64. BJT says:

    So this is pretty much Tom Pyatt V2, then?

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  65. WestHab says:

    looks like the new guy has gorw 2 inches and gained 13 lbs since the nhl.com info. But he still shoots left.

  66. Chuck says:

    O’Byrne’s first clue should have been when they were shooting the team photo and the photographer kept telling him to back up.

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  67. nick says:

    Just did some quick searches for this guy…

        * Michael Bournival
        * Left Wing
        * Height: 5-11
        * Weight: 179
        * Shoots: Left
        * Born: May 31, 1992 – Shawinigan, Quebec
        * Draft: 2010 – 3rd round (71st overall) by the Colorado Avalanche

    Buzzing the Net states hes off to a great start:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/juniorhockey/blog/buzzing_the_net/post/Bournival-boosting-Team-Canada-chances?urn=juniorhockey-283557

    Hockey Prospects says this about the guy:

    Possesses the ability to play in all three zones and a
    no-quit, win at any cost attitude.  Bournival might not be the most
    talented player available, but his work ethic and dedication will help
    ensure that he becomes a viable NHL prospect.

    Quick note added. Hockey Prospects rates Bourninval at 6.5B. The same site lists Pyatt at 6.0B and White at 6.5B.

  68. MTLForever says:

    yes out 3 months

  69. Mark C says:

    Per Capgeek, I think you are right, only if/when he gets added to the Bulldogs roster does his cap number come off Montreal’s books.

  70. Bugs says:

    I never said that.

    Not only do you defend yourself by radically changing the subject just so you can jab me, but you fabricate your jab as well. (consider the child Stormy who’s come to support you in this endeavour; it’s his favourite means of rhetoric)

    Habs SHOULD’VE kept Halak. Halak is better than Price. Price is fantastic. Halak is sensational.

    Or at least, gotten equal return. We didn’t get equal return.

    So to recap: preferring a goalie who scores 97% on the test over another who scores 96% on the test and wanting EQUAL return on a deal means I’m stupid and you’re a superhero, right?

    Because the smart thing to do is to keep the goalie who’s a liiiiitle less good and to give away a num1 goalie for an AHLer, yes? That’s really, really smart and if I don’t see that, that’s just my stupid, stupid problem, right Double-H?

    (shakes head)

    Ok, mate; I’m sorry.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  71. Propwash says:

    Could you imagine!

    I’d LOVE to see Parise in a Habs uniform, won’t ever happen though.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  72. gregg says:

    Actually i believe that because he cleared waivers but was not sent down, he remains on the habs roster and on the cap. I`m not 100% on this however.

    If it were as easy as putting players on waivers to get rid of the contract, Gomez and Spacek probably would have been there a while ago.

  73. SeriousFan09 says:

    Canada is not interested in developing wingers right now. Taylor Hall was the first time a Canadian winger was selected first overall since Rick Nash in 2002. A lot of Cs end up going to the wing as they play though junior and develop in the AHL. I’d like some more wingers in the system but it’s not like player development has made it easy, everyone wants to develop a center in hopes he can stay a center and if he doesn’t well hey, he can always be a winger.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  74. CBrady12 says:

    you know what for a dog you are smart…for a human…not so much

  75. twocents says:

    On one level I am sorry to see O’Byrne go. He’s our own pick and I think many of us remember the spring of ’08 when he played his best hockey. We all had visions of a long career in Montreal for a big, mobile defenceman who could complement an offensive partner very well.

    However, he has never really showed that form again for any consistent stretch and honestly, that stretch wasn’t all that long. The fact is, he had dropped too far down the depth chart to be good for anyone involved. So, I don’t really have a problem with this, a little disappointment, but no problem. I hope the new franco’s a good’n.

    As many have pointed out, this move, in conjunction with the Boyd thingy, seems to indicate more to come. Like using the freshly freed cap space to sign someone or perhaps engage in a trade where we take on net salary. 

    But, another idea comes to mind for me. With our future Hall Gill now a Fordique, does this mean our new future Hall Gill is none other than Hall Gill? For next season anyway, that may what this means.

     

  76. notbigbird says:

    I take  your point, but where did Crosby play?

  77. habfan53 says:

    From what I’ve seen RDS is split  Bergeron, Tremblay and Gaston Therrien all say NOOOOOOOOO

  78. bertuzzisucks says:

    You can replace Spacek with a Spider-Monkey

    You can replace Hamerlick with a chihauhau

    You can replace Gill’s regular minutes with a 6 foot 5  4″ x 4″

     

    Spacek and Hamerlick were brutal in the 1st period against the Canucks. They couldnt touch the puck on that one shift against the Sedins.They calmed down in the final 2 periods but Geez!

     

     

  79. RGM says:

    The two go hand-in-hand, side-by-side. You can’t expect 19-22 year olds, however, to replace the leadership and experience provided by veteran players. I’m not saying we replace Gill, Hamrlik, and Spacek with geezers, but we will likely require at least one guy in his late-20s or early-30s and if we’re lucky we can get a guy mid-20s that’s ready to roll.

    Go Habs Go!

  80. habrez says:

    Meh.

    Kaberle, we would have to overpay or make a trade.

    Jovo, don’t want him

    Erhoff, i’m sure the Canucks would resign him

    Bieksa, like the guy but he will get big money

    Brewer, like the guy

    No one else really stands out, Sopel, Greene, Montador…

  81. JD_ says:

    And so the blatantly obvious has come to pass.

    Four quarters for a buck, except that the buck is eight years older, a $1.4M cap hit, and still strugglin’ to make a home for himself in the league. At the age of 26, another tall and lanky Habs D-man of yore went +120 on the season while usin’ his size to slam the crap out of the opposition.

    Ignorin’ my unfair comparison, however, it was time to fish or cut bait cuz OB’s value was not bein’ enhanced sittin’ in the press box and, the way his season had been goin’, showcasin’ him could have had a detrimental effect.

    The Habs’ coachin’ staff has changed but OB has not. Although a great person who kept his head down while focused on earnin’ a job in the NHL, Ryan’s acumen is clearly sub-optimal for the big leagues. Simply put, he has a hockey IQ seemingly ill-fitted for competin’ at this speed.

    You can’t help but like the big lug and hope the best for him.

    That OB is unlikely to be meaningfully booed, if and when he ever returns to the Bell Centre, will be a tellin’ sign. There will probably be relative silence. It will be a sign of sympathy, ultimately not the kind of affinity any former player with a competitive spirit wants to feel emanatin’ from the Bell Centre crowd.

  82. RGM says:

    One player, no matter how good, only serves as the exception to the rule. Where did Ovechkin, Staal, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Nash, et al. play their junior years?

    Go Habs Go!

  83. mike g says:

    You wanna know why Bouillon is playing as a full-time NHL’er?…

    Because he’s got the NO QUIT, WIN AT ANY COST ATTITUDE.

    OB doesn’t have that edge. And you can’t go to hockey school and learn to be a tough SOB. He’s not an offensive weapon, he’s not the most mobile d-man, and he’s not the most steady d-man eaither. Komisarek understood that and used his toughness to become a regular NHL’er in this league with extreme limited talent. Don’t see that in OB…

    That’s why OB hasn’t played a regular shift in this league. That cliche saying is so true in OB’s case, “it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog”.

    Comon pupp, you should know that one?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  84. twilighthours says:

    I used to be a big believer in O’Byrne.  Ultimately, he seems to be the kind of player who could be a very effective defenseman, but then he’ll make one mistake – which causes a highlight-reel goal – and he regresses back to a fringe player with no confidence.  

    JM haters will blame this on JM, but O’Byrne has played for a few coaches now and it’s always the same story. 

    He’s a great guy and teammate, and I hope he becomes a regular D-man.  Good luck, Ryan.

  85. secretdragonfly says:

    The idea of seeing Phaneuf in 3-D gives me the heebie-jeebies.

  86. RGM says:

    This is the most digital ink that will be spilled for O’Byrne for the rest of his career, right in this thread here.

    Go Habs Go!

  87. mike g says:

    LOL..

    Funny thing is, I’m not a big drinker..

    I actually drink very rarely. Once a month if I’m feeling like it. And JD is alright, not my favorite beverage.

    I just use it as my pic because it’s attracting to the eye due to its bold style.

    Yes, I am that smart…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  88. ZepFan2 says:

    This seems oddly familliar…

    Martin briefing the newly acquired player?

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    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  89. ctony says:

    Would anyone like to speculate on who we can pick up?  Here are a few quick ideas. 

     

    Ryder – I hope not, but Boston needs cap space

    Sharp – Chicago probably doesn’t want to trade, but he would help our PP 

    Richards – We would need to free up a lot more room to make this happen

    Penner – Scored 30+ last year and started slow

     

  90. Bugs says:

    All the confidence in the world can’t help his utter lack of vision.

    Loved the guy. Was my boy. Always said his only problem was that he had no vision.

    Well…

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  91. ctony says:

    It was a logistical nightmare, but we got the whole country together and nobody wants to be a winger.

  92. Bugs says:

    He’s a 4th line ctr, seems like. Third at the best.

    Has no incidence on Gomie or Plecky situations.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  93. Mike D says:

    LOL, right from the TSN website:

            “Ryan O’Byrne was pointless in three games with the Canadiens this season.”

     

    HAHAHA – that about sums it up. Gotta love the double-entendre! Wonder if they wrote it that way on purpose?

    Sorry OB, nothing personal but that was hilarious. All kidding aside, good luck in Colorado and I hope they give you ample playing time.

    - Honestly yours

  94. Danno says:

    Purple tie seems oddly familiar…

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  95. TripleX says:

    O’Byrne made mistakes due to lack of confidence, such as the delay of game penalties.  In all his time in Montreal he only played 128 games so I dispute he was given a fair chance.  By the way after 128 games he was a -3, so his defensive liabilities are exaggerated.

     

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  96. mike g says:

    All those guys cost 4+ mill, for more than a year (except Richards, he’s a UFA)….

    (Unless you’re talking about Mike Richards, because then I say trade the farm for him, but anyyyways, lol…)

    No thanks.

    Penner, lazy/overpaid. Ryder, no need to explain. And Sharp is staying in CHI, they traded Versteeg and Buff to keep him, he’s a huge leader on that team.

    - I see more of a Gilbert Brule from EDM, maybe. EDM needs to make a trade, and apparently he’s on the block along with Cogliano. But Cogs is yet another small, fast, left handed shot forward. No thanks.

    - NJ needs to shake things up. I’d take Langenbrunner in a heartbeat. He’s their captain, and they’re 4 wins into a 16 game season ain’t gonna cut it. They have to free-up some space, and after watching a couple of their games, it looks like he knows he’s gonna be the odd-man out. Plus, Gainey knows him from his Dallas days.

    We will see….

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  97. Say Ash says:

    Surely, he saw this coming, though.

  98. ZepFan2 says:

    The truth will come out one day. lol

    ————————————————————————

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    ~Serge Savard~

  99. Storm Man says:

    Mike, I read an article on the effects of drinking today. It scared the shit out of me. So that is it! After today, No more reading. Thanks/Marci for understanding this post ;).

  100. PureGuava says:

    Ryder - won’t be coming back.

    Sharp – Chicago moved mountains to keep him, so he’s going nowhere.

    Richards – would need to send Gomez back the other way, and i doubt anyone is going to be crazy enough to make that trade again.

    Penner – Would need to send Hammer or Spatch.

     

    “Of course I’m crazy, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.” – Robert Anton Wilson

  101. twilighthours says:

    What does this mean – “Canada is not interested in developing wingers…”?  Canada and its coaches in general are, I presume, interested in developing the best hockey players they can.  This means the fastest, most active and involved, the best passers, shooters, the most responsible defensively….. if you’re a coach and you have a player like that on your team, you put him at centre, because that’s where he’ll help your team the best, not so he can hang out at the point and make the 2nd break-out pass.  Centres have the puck more often and so you put your best players at centre.  

    If (and I say “if” because I have no idea the scouting ratings vs positions for Canadian players) Canadian centres have been the highest rated prospects over the last few years, it’s not because there’s a conscious decision to focus on developing centres.  

    Maybe I’m wrong, though – you on Hockey Canada’s email distribution list?

  102. joeybarrie says:

    Ryder is a big fat NO.

    Patrick Sharp????? How would that even be on the table for Chicago?

    What Richards? Mike or Brad? No way either one is going anywhere.

    Can’t imagine Penner would be available.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  103. HFX-HabFan says:

    One guy, good.

    That said, the numbers don’t lie:  A year ago at this time, 412 NHL players had spent time playing major junior (OHL, WHL or QMJHL) in Canada.  178 played in the OHL, 157 in the WHL, and only 77 in the Q. 

  104. Bugs says:

    What do y…aaaaah, I see.

    Nice.

    (can’t wait to see your new avatar)

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  105. habfan53 says:

    I was about to point out the same thing (128 games).  That is only a season and a half.

  106. SeriousFan09 says:

    Brule? No thanks too small and he doesn’t address our needs. Are we after the entire 2005 draft class and their problem children?

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  107. ctony says:

    I’d move Spacek to get Penner.  Edmonton would save about $1m in cap space and probably a few dollars.  We could move Picard into the lineup and Penner couldn’t be worse than our current top 6.

    You’re right that we don’t have the horses for Brad or Mike Richards and other teams won’t take Gomez in exchange.

    Sharp was on the block in the summer, but you’re right that Chicago won’t move him now.  I like to dream.

    Ryder – hope NOT.

    Just getting a sense of what other teams had a spare winger or were desperate to make a move.  Hey, any Toronto fans out there?

     

     

     

  108. ctony says:

    Laggenbrunner seems like a lot of what we already have.  Small, limited production.  

  109. punkster says:

    I commented a couple of weeks ago that his 125 or os games was not enough to make a fair evaluation. That many of the game’s best D men took 200+ games to come up to speed and that average D sometimes took much longer. As much as I liked OB he wasn’t showing much in the way of improvement after those 125 games and the handwriting was on the wall. If he had a lack of confidence it had little to do with not playing enough games because, as I say, he just wasn’t improving. The +/- stats can be deceiving because so much depends on TOI, PP TOI, who he is partnered with when goals are scored both for and against, what situations he is used in, etc. Maybe he wasn’t a defensive liability but he wasn’t a standout either. Middle of the road with gusts to weak and inconsistent. Not a big loss for the Habs.

  110. twilighthours says:

    Well, he’s been a pro for 5 years now, and did play sizeable chunks of 3 seasons in the NHL.  I’d say he was given a chance.

    Regardless, he’s a 26 year-old who was clearly and widely outplayed by 7 of his teammates this year, and so he was expendable.  

    Like I said, I thought he was eventually going to be a solid player, too, but those days seem gone now if he can’t beat out a training-camp walk-on for a job.  

  111. TripleX says:

    Exactly, like Max said himself better to play in Hamilton with maximum ice time than regress in the press box in Montreal.  Is Eller really better off down in Hamilton?  Is the fact he was traded for Halak and PG wants to save face the reason he is still in Montreal?

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  112. TripleX says:

    I think in private O’Byrne is jumping for joy.  Getting away from Montreal and JM is the best thing for his career.  Ask Lats and Dags about that.

    I imagine Picard is jealous.

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  113. habfan53 says:

    I would rather see Eller in Montreal with 2 linemates for 2-3 games before making a decision on keeping him up or sending him down. This game plan of rotating players is ridiculous. He is still young he has a lot to learn  and he PROBABLY won’t learn it under Martin.

  114. SeriousFan09 says:

    I just find there is less focus on developing quality wingers than there is quality centres in Canada. 7 of the Top 10 LW scorers last season were not Canadian. Canada does better with the RW but right now, Canada isn’t doing that well with cranking out something as simple as a natural LW player. 4 of them selected in the 1st round in the last 6 drafts.

    David Perron, James Neal are the best LWs to come out of Canada in the last 6 years and while good measure that against production of centers in those 6 years. It isn’t even close. It’s great to crank out some incredibly talented Cs but if you don’t have some solid wingers, there’s no one to finish what he starts.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  115. oshawahabsfan says:

    Ha! That’s perfect for Martin

  116. Bryan says:

    And just like that, the Montreal Juniors have acquried Michael Bournival from Shawinigan.  Will make it easy to keep tabs on him, Leblanc and Lefebrve

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  117. SeriousFan09 says:

    Seems the Habs just gave me more work to do for my next prospects report. Canadiens have 2x as many players in the Q than both the WHL and OHL combined, not sure how I feel about that.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  118. Storm Man says:

    30 more days till CBC does a 3D broadcast of HNIC, This is very exciting. 

  119. habrez says:

    Just wondering who is gonna replace Gill, Hamrlik, and Spacek in one or two years time?

    Maybe SF09 can enlighten me, but after PK, we have Tinordi who is a few years away from the NHL, Weber who I like but might not have the ability or size to be an NHL defenseman, Carle who is constantly injured and I don’t think will ever be an NHL defenseman, Yemelin who likely won’t make the trip across the pond, a bunch of career AHLers in Henry, Nash, and somewhat longshots of making the NHL in Ellis and Bennett. Are we gonna sign another overpriced UFA?

    Would have prefered a defensive prospect. And good luck to OB. I think he will make a solid defenseman

  120. habs365 says:

    first of all where are you gonna get a top six winger….there’s none to be had….unless you want to make a deal for half you’re team….and the players the Habs have with the exception of a couple can’t score….who’s gonna make that trade

    they may be able to make a trade for a 15 goal scorer for a top prospect….than what do you have another new face….like the Habs brought in this year….and you gave up a draft pick that could be real good down the road.

    that’s why they haven’t won the cup since 1993….new faces don’t cut it….players that can score is what wins stanley cups….that’s how chicago won….good young talent that could score all four lines….with a few vets mixed in.

    anyway good luck to OB….may turn out to be a real good defenceman now he has that chance….would have never gotten it in Habs land….someone involved with that team didn’t like him.

    The Rocket can smell a snake.

  121. Bryan says:

    Scratch that, seems like it’s being denied now.

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  122. WarHero says:

    Where did you read that? Post a lnk?

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  123. SLONCOLD says:

    not like the habs will develop the players any worse if they come from the Q

  124. Harani says:

    On twitter: “the Montreal Juniors have acquired Michael Bournival from Shawinigan. Looking into the assets going the other way.”

    He’ll get to play with Leblanc. Montreal Juniors know what they’re doing ;)

    Edit: Apparently false alarm. 

    “It must be love!”

  125. OneTimer says:

    So, I thought a cataracte in French had something to do with running water (“rapids”?), not Native Americans, but who cares I think their logo is pretty cool anyway.

  126. WarHero says:

    As per Twitter:



    Conor McKenna


      by KamalPanesar

    just spoke with MTL Juniors PR staff, they are denying that the team has acquired Bournival as is another source with the team.

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  127. spos080808 says:

    This freed up money can be used later on to get a top 6 player. And yes that money will be enough once you take into account a players prorated salary the rest of the season.

    So if they sit on this money for now come January, February, March $2+ million can fetch them a player that is making $4 mil this season.

    So these deals def. give the Habs the ability to find a top 6 forward later on in the season.

  128. avatar_58 says:

    A CENTRE?? REALLY?

    Good f’in lord. Look the kid will be good, I’m sure. But a CENTRE?? So what does that bring the total to? 300? Get some players who know how to play wing please, not just centres who need to be ‘adjusted’

  129. spos080808 says:

    Were Gill, Spacek, Hammer drafted by the Habs?

    No? So how did the Habs get them?

    Well now you have your answer on what the Habs will do when these contracts run out.

  130. HFX-HabFan says:

    True, but the Q is a vastly inferior league compared to the WHL and OHL at producing NHL-calibre talent.

  131. observer says:

    doesn’t make the habs a better team. obviously there is another shoe or slippers still to drop to clear more space or in event of a real trade that WILL improve this years team.

  132. Bugs says:

    I thought it was like an eye problem. My granny had that. Never understood why you would wanna name a team after it.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  133. Storm Man says:

    So very true.

  134. shiram says:

    Yea thats what i thought as well, but the kid is a long way from nhl right now, and the move is probably more about getting some cap space, and removing a superfluous defenceman.

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  135. RGM says:

    Large number of UFA d-men this coming off-season, including some pretty decent names like Bieksa, Hannan, Montador, Greene, even Ian White. There’s always the trade route as well come the deadline.

    Go Habs Go!

  136. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well thanks for being Mr. Cynical.

    The point is the OHL, WHL are much better at developing prospects, by miles.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  137. shiram says:

    Yup i thought about the eye thing as well, turns out it almost describre some kinda water fall…

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  138. Chorske says:

    LOVE how Marc-Andre Bergeron is listed as a “current NHL player” by the Cataractes de Shawinigan wiki entry.

    Hope springs eternal. I bet the RDS boys keep his name up there. It’s like lighting a candle.

  139. Bugs says:

    He’s 18, Avie. Won’t see’m for at least 3-4 years.

    Take it easy.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  140. observer says:

    18 years old – wont be in league for 4 years. all they did was clear space and if kid turns out its a bonus in 3 or 4 years.

  141. CBrady12 says:

    NO  ONE that writes on this website has probably ever seen this guy play. And since there are guys who get paid to actually watch these guys play and evaluate them, can’t we just refrain from saying hes going to be Pyatt v2 or a carreer AHLer blah blah blah…I just don’t get it…people have come to a conclusion on a guy without even having seen him play??? lets get real for once

  142. Bugs says:

    That’s hits you in the eye?

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  143. SmartDog says:

    Guranteed Obi goes on to become another successful Montreal cast-off. I don’t know anything about Bournival… but another “hard working” 3rd rounder/liner doesn’t seem like much of a win.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  144. mike g says:

    Oh boy, where do I start…

    Alright, so OB is gone.

    Listened to his post-trade interview, and I have to say I was impressed with the way he spoke. In the sound-bites I heard, never once did he mention that he felt picked on or did he complain about not being used. He didn’t make excuses and/or blame it on the organization. OB stayed focused, andswered the questions like a professional, and is on his way. Very classy, Ryan…

    Anyhoo, time was ticking for him. And IMO, unless he has some sort of toughness up his sleeve, sadly I think he won’t be in COL too long either. When you’re 6 foot 5, you HAVE to play tough. You can’t become tough when you’re 23, 24 or 25. People are born tough, you can’t develop into it. And Ryan never had that, he didn’t play with that nasty edge. I can still remember when he tried sticking up for Koivu 2 years ago in Boston, and when Sean Thornton gave him a little push, OB fell to the ice and curled up as if he was rolling down a mountain. Not a great way to sell yourself as a tough d-man, especially against BOS, in BOS.

    So, that’s that.

    Now, as for Bournival le Carnival. I’ve never seen him play. Can’t really say he’s good at this or that.

    But if there’s one thing I like to see in a scouting report, especially for a potential future Hab, it’s this:

    a no-quit, win at any cost attitude.”

    That’s something this roster has been lacking for years. The kinda player that is willing to drop a couple of teeth onto the ice just to block a shot or score that goal.

    Anyways. If this kid plays for us or not, I see this trade more as a cheap salary dump. OB was probably destined for waivers, so to get a decent prospect for him, I’m glad.

    Once again, just like the H trade, this one will be up for debate only when/if Mr. Bournival le Carnival plays in the NHL.

    Thanks/Merci for reading….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  145. HFX-HabFan says:

    But hey, at least he wears number 78, that’ll fit right in with the rest of the Habs.

  146. Sportfan says:

    SO this makes Picard a full time Hab no send down for him

    Goodluck to O’Byrne he never really got his stride here i think we scared him too much.

    It was a random trade but i didnt expect anymore lol

    I’ll never foget the habs game I was at when he scored on our own net that killed it for him i think

    ANyway anyone got rumors on anyone else coming to Montreal ??? Like Free Agent named Guerin or some forward so MArtin doesnt become the new crazy line changing guy oh wait too late :P


  147. avatar_58 says:

    So Gomez and Plek still on contract yes? We won’t need a centre for 5+ years, in which case in order to be top 6 he’ll need to be a skilled UFA, not a rookie. Just saying.

  148. PrimeTime says:

    Good for OB. A real nice guy guy who tried to do his best although did not work out. I don’t recall him b*itching about not playing unlike some past players….good team guy! Our D has a lot of depth hence the limited number of games he has seen, so this was inevitable. I wish OB all the best and welcome a good all round good character pl;ayer in return. Next?

  149. MTLForever says:

    I am fine with this trade. OB was only going to crack the starting line up if there were injuries, Picard would’ve got the nod before him also. Good luck to OB in Colorado, they needed someone to help their D out. 

  150. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    I think if we gave OB another 3-4 yrs to develope he could really become a reliable 6 or 7th d-man. Of course he woulda been 30 yrs old too.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  151. Danno says:

    From Wiki:

    The name “Cataractes” often confuses English-speaking hockey fans. The
    name literally translates as “Cataracts” meaning “Waterfalls”; the team
    is named for Shawinigan Falls, a prominent waterfall in the city, even
    though they do not have a waterfall on their uniform. A Quebec Senior Hockey League
    team operated in the city as the Shawinigan Falls Cataracts (1945–53)
    and the Shawinigan Cataracts (1954–58). It won the playoffs in the
    1954–55 season.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  152. habitual says:

    Whatever happened to the notion of developing draft picks and young talent?

     

  153. SmartDog says:

    Funny.  We posted at exactly the same SECOND.  When my page refreshed your post was already on top of mine.

    And I say pretty much the opposite. As you say, it’ll be debated and no-one knows for sure.  You make a good point re. toughness but I think he’ll improve and up diong well.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  154. Bugs says:

    Agree. Nor one for incurring penalties in the opposition.

    Cuz that would prove the top-5 rating I claim he holds in that specific aspect of the game.

    Aspect at which he is indeed more than good, I say great.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  155. Chorske says:

    What- like being namedropped on Antichambre?

  156. Bugs says:

    Now, now, Chorske. No need for that.

    I think you know what I refer to, sir.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  157. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Too bad there are no official stats on annoying the living crap outta opposing forwards.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  158. Chorske says:

    Haha, just messin’.

  159. OneTimer says:

    …Don’t lump the Habs and Leafs together ever again.

  160. Mark C says:

    Here are some quotes from THN:

    “I love his overall energy package” one scout said. “If you watch Shawinigan play 10 times, you see the same Bournival 8 times. he’s a consistent physical player who doesn’t pick and choose who he runs into.”

    “He’s probably the grittiest of all Quebec kids”, another scout said.
    “He goes hard on forechecks and gives you a bit of everything. He plays hard; a good third line type of player.”

    First in push-ups and sixth in bench-press at the combine.

    Here’s a picture of the wimp.

  161. kordic says:

    Ah! yes….another wimpy forward. The Habs and the Leafs deserve everything that has come to them. The two biggest teams in Canada will be the joke of the country for many years to come If things don’t change.

    On this Remembrance day, let’s look back to the great Habs teams of the past and dream that one day we won’t be fighting for a playoff spot year after year after year after year.

    JOKE!

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  162. SeriousFan09 says:

    Subban is already a better hitter than OB is, 6’5″ isn’t that useful if he hasn’t dropped them since March of last year and can’t throw well-tiimed big hits.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  163. ctony says:

    he may be the most physical defenseman on the team.  Open ice hits, strong play along the boards.  Aggressive in front of ou net.  The kid is a treat to watch.  

  164. TomNickle says:

    Subban uses his size more effectively than O’Byrne.

    So what’s the point of that 6’5 frame?

    We need a physical force on defense and forward to have a hope at a Cup run.

    O’Byrne wasn’t a physical force, his value to the Habs was that of a supplemental insurance policy behind O’Byrne.  He’s going to a place where he’ll see icetime every night.

     

  165. TripleX says:

    Maybe we need to take the C from Gionta and go back to a no capitan system  :)

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  166. Bugs says:

    So far this season, you’re certainly not wrong.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  167. kordic says:

    REALITY HURTS!!!

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  168. OneTimer says:

    Bro in what way are the Leafs and the Habs similar?

  169. kordic says:

    Both teams have struggled for years, Both are badly managed. Both have extremely overpaid players, Both have a horrific scouting staff. Both are using their adoring fans to fill the seats, spend tons of money, to watch mediocre hockey. Both are the heart and soul of this country and have embarrassed the country. etc…….

    Toronto is way worse because they have been horrible!!!!! and they have Don Cherry, but the Habs are not to far behind.

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  170. OneTimer says:

    Struggled for years? Habs to ECF last year, 1st place Eastern Conference in 2008. If “struggling for years” means “not winning the cup every year, I guess a lot of teams “struggle for years” by your standards. Like the Caps.

     

    Badly managed? Yeah because we traded away 2 1sts and a 2nd for a one-dimensional scorer and complemented him with a lackluckstre Top 6 and expected MAGIC. And in so doing handicapped the team’s development for YEARS, in what was supposed to be a rebuild anyways.

     

    Horrific scouting staff? P.K. Subban.

     

    Mediocre hockey? I don’t know what you’ve been watching lately buddy, but I’m nicely surprised that Jacques Martin hockey isn’t boring to watch, it’s actually fun.

     

    Have embarassed the country? What planet are you from? Don’t you remember the pride and good vibes the team gave us this spring? Take off your Habs jersey man, take your troll ass back to the leafs forums.

  171. Castor says:

    WIN

     

    Kordic has been OWNED

     

    Asking someone to be objective while saying a team that finished first in the East in 08 and in the FINAL FOUR in 10 is a team that “struggles for years”. Not exactly objective bro.

  172. kordic says:

    that’s all you losers can come up with “TROLL” find some new material,

    You and others need a dose of Reality in your lives.

    True fans can be objective and don’t have rose colored glasses stuck up their @@@.

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  173. OneTimer says:

    Actually on top of calling you a troll I also came up with five separate counter-arguments. Want to address those?

     

    Ease up on the nose candy Kordic…

  174. kordic says:

    No point!!! Waste of my time.

    By the way, I did let up on the nose candy. I’m DEAD! KNOB.

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  175. OneTimer says:

    Actually you posting on these boards is a waste of everyone’s time. (bolded it for ya since you seem to respond to that)

  176. Pay Julay says:

    HAHAHA!!! What a douche you are Kordic!!! This is what your life is all about!! reduced to bantering on and on in and online forum. Go buck up another couple railers and suit up for round 2!! 

     

    PS  - Check the standings

  177. HabFarmer says:

    What’s most disturbing about you dude is that you make a statement like that while assuming the avatar of a troubled, unhappy soul who died a tragic death.  That speaks volumes alone about you, never mind your obvious need to get a reaction out of people.

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  178. LA Loyalist says:

    We could use a one dimensional scorer if he actually scored.

  179. showey47 says:

    I agree,it was so non-latendresse like.

  180. Shiloh says:

    Great point – especially when LaSlowesse was given a free ride. Unlike AK46, who did his time in Hamilton and then rode the pine, LaUseless was handed a spot and stayed there while he fummed around the ice on his ankles and popped 25-30 pts a year.

  181. OneTimer says:

    Respect, O’B, I’ll keep pulling for you over there in Colorado

  182. TomNickle says:

    I just listened to the O’Byrne interview now and he hit the nail on the head with a lot of his comments.

    Saying that requesting to be in the lineup or requesting a trade if the wish is not granted is a distraction and those types of players don’t accomplish anything.

    Saying that wanting to be in the lineup is one thing but that the responsibility falls on him to make sure they can’t take him out of the lineup.

    I’m very happy that he’s getting a clean slate in a new city and I think he’ll be successful there.  It seems that in this case, a change of scenery was needed.

    And Colorado should be happy they’ve got such a mature young man coming to their organization to fill an immediate need.  He won’t let them down by being a diva and he won’t come into camp out of shape.

    Good for him.  I hope he does well.

  183. mike g says:

    As I said earlier, I was also impressed with his interview…

    He never made excuses, or blamed anyone else for his lack of success here.

    He might do well there, but I’m not sure. The Western Conference is extremely fast, alot faster than the East. And it’s a very physical game, not sure if he will be able to adapt to the speed and keep up.

    Time will tell…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  184. SeriousFan09 says:

    Something to be said about a player departing the organization and not blaming everything on others, solid interview by OB.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  185. Born in a Bad Year says:

    This has been a long time coming, I think this will be the chance he never got here.  

    Management has always thought it would be better to bring in the old rather than allowing the kids to play. Think Brisebois, MAB, Mara and this year’s flavour, Picard.  i do realize that Picard is the same age as O’Byrne, but we did not need another defenceman for two weeks that we had without Markov.

    I would bet that by the end of the season, O’Byrne will have more hits and blocked shots in Colorado than any Montreal defender.

    Any takers?

  186. likehoy says:

    O’Byrne’s game went south when he retired number 3 for Butch Bouchard.

    Excited for the new kid, he sounds like the second coming of Tomas Plekanec who was also drafted 3/71 and is great in all 3 zones and never quits!

    habs save 950k on o’byrne, and possibly 600k off boyd and we will only have 1 spare (picard) left on the bench

    does that signal moves from hamilton? weber has been on a torrid pace to start the season…maybe bringing him up to help our PP is an option…white, desharnais, maxwell ready for recalls?

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  187. Nina76 says:

    CTONY ……………..Great post you are right bang on you did not miss a beat………Do we have them in our system? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Can this management team development them?……….NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO If we keep hiring smurfs we will never be able to compete. We are just starting to get pushed by much larger bodies ,look for injuries to come . They have done well so far but it will not take long to slip down the list in points. Sometimes I wonder where JM, Gainey,Timmins & for the love of Pete MOLSON with the stupid decisions they make……………..GO HABS GO!!!! I am always with you play the best you can with what you have got. GOOD LUCK OB!!!!

  188. Matthew says:

    According to one extremely irascible commenter the NHL/Habs Management made O’Byrne give up the number 3 to Bouchard, although said commenter does not offer any source

  189. Habscat says:

    I am glad that O’B will get a chance in Colorado. I have watched a few of their games and their announce team has mentioned on more than one occasion that the team was looking for a big physical presence on the blue-line. I also like that we got another prospect for the future – you never know.

    Just wondering, but we know JM loves the veteran players. Is Brendan Witt available as an unsigned FA? I dont hear his name much this year, and if available wouldn’t mind seeing him blocking some shots and clearing the front of the net in Montreal……just a thought

     

    http://stores.ebay.com/Gushue-Sports-Cards?_rdc=1 http://ronthecat.webs.com/

  190. 4loorplay says:

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….ob snatches a purse in fla,and gets caught. then he scores on his own team….chit happens right. he is 6 ft 6 235 yet has to be reminded on a hourly baises to use his body but seems to go after shiny keys instead.  well I hope this prospect is somewhat better.

     

    OB good luck with the avs…mtl is a mans place to play.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  191. DD says:

    Well, I think Tyler Seguin will be a fine player for years to come, and just think of the high draft pick they’ll get (give away) next year.

    Boy, Burke is a genius. So far he’s traded a Kessel, a 5th pick over all for a 2nd pick over all, and it’ll will probably a first this year. It’s pretty funny that leaf fans still haven’t figured out that it doesn’t matter how much mustard you put on a $#it sandwich, it still taste like $#it.

  192. darcy1 says:

    just had a chance to listen to the OB tape. he really is a class act.. go avs! (except for dec. 18)

  193. Ian Cobb says:

    You are bang on Dave! “Hardhabits”

    It takes great
    management to think down range, most can only see whats in front at
    close range. But I am very glad that you also enjoy the process of
    becoming a winner. Just enjoying the win is so short. Better to see the
    whole picture my friend.

  194. TheLogician says:

    nearly 25 mins and a +1 in his avs debut. nice work!

  195. doug19 says:

    I liked OByrne but perhaps he isn’t the next Larry Robinson. He is a good skater but rarely uses it to advantage.

    I hope Colorado is great for him and he is closer to our home town Victoria.All the best!

  196. twocents says:

    Who?

    Lord Tankalot?

    ;o)

  197. Kythehabsfan says:

    I think this move is long overdue. I never saw OB as a top 6 guy here and always begrudged his opportunities (limited as they were) over Webber, Carle, or Belle. Hopefully he gets a chance to play and proove many wrong.

  198. Habies says:

    Since the 4th game of the seaon, I have written 6 times in HIO that O’B would never play another game for the Habies. Since then, I have used O’B's name nearly every time I cursed. I turned O’bd into an adjective. “SHIZER! I CAN’T FIND MY O’Bing KEYS!!!”   “AGH! I STUBBED MY O’Bing TOE AGAIN!” “THIS ELECTION’S AN O’Bing FARCE!” And so on…

    Good to know a far away fan can get somethin’ right from time to time or- more to the point- that through the internet, fan can have a genuine feel for the team.

    Now I just need a new adjective. Something that rhymes with Brodeur, Briere, or maybe Mahovolich…

     

  199. scrowe21 says:

    Saw this one coming..too bad. Wish it hadda been Spacek. I dont care if hes stepped it up the past few games or not. Hes old, expensive and has another year left on the contract after this one. Atleast OB was huge, more physical, young and cheap.

  200. habfan53 says:

    “”Stocking the shelves is the way to go to build a champion”"

    The way to build a champion is having a good scouting staff and developning your draft choices.

    Last year Chicago had at least 13 players they had drafted and Detroit the year before had 14. This is something Montreal use to do better than anybody now we only have 5 players on our roster that we drafted.

     

  201. CBrady12 says:

    Well when a number is retired no one can wear it anymore…so yeah he was forced to give it up…it wouldnt have mattered if it was him or Markov, it’s just the way it is

  202. ctony says:

    Hey HH – as usual, you are droning on without listening to
    anyone and quick on simple stuff that you disagree with. 

    But when it comes to building a through the draft – What are you talking about? Four years
    into Gainey’s five year plan he had to blow up the whole team and signed a group
    of UFA.  That says two things: (1) he had
    nothing in the “system” to re-build around; and even more sadly (2) he thought so little about our system that
    he signed them to long term contracts.

    Before you launch into your venerable, “you’ve been on
    the site for two minutes, troll…” garbage, if good ol’ Bob had anything,
    even some prospects to build around he would have signed some stop gap
    forwards.  Nope, not good ol’ Bob. He
    signed Cammi, Gomez, and Gionta to long term deals.  That’s his admission that he had nothing and
    would have nothing for a long period of time. 
    He was slightly more optimistic about the defense.  Gill got two years, Spacek three and Mara
    only got one. 

     

    But wait, we all like to discuss how will develop players in
    the long run.  Another crock.  He didn’t hire a developmental coach.  He hired a coach with a propensity for
    playing veterans over youth.  And one
    with a marginally above .500 record (almost identical track record to Ron
    Wilson, yep look it up) and mediocre playoffs record to boot.  Again, not Bobby’s way to build
    organizational depth. 

     

    Add to that Bob’s net trading away top picks.  Yeah, yeah we got a second for not even
    bother to sign a former first round pick and a second Grabs. Now, subtract the
    1′s and 2′s for a bunch of players not with us and the “net” result
    is negative.  Again, not a way to build a
    system through the draft.

     

    In fairness, building comes through having a lot of high
    picks.  Ask Pittsburgh, Washington, and
    Chicago.  But it we are going to stick
    with the “development” story then we need

    good/lucky drafting and consistently strong player
    development.  Someone commented on
    Arpon’s blog this morning that after the OB trade we have only five players on
    the current roster drafted in the last decade (six if you go back far enough to
    include Markov).  That’s not good.  On the other hand, those players include:
    Plex, AK, PK, Markov, and Price – who really represent the core of the team.

    I know BG and PG are only responsible for the last half of that and  this comment will probably get me (even more)
    hate mail, but I would like to see more objective measures of our drafting
    success (like rankings from HockeyFutures). 
    Most of our prospects don’t score about 6.5.  Go to the active blog of any team and they
    will be talking optimistically about the players they draft.  I’d also like to see us  get more out of SK, D’Ago and others before
    we ship them out.  I’m not saying they
    are top 6 forwards, but Habs teams that win Cups had great depth from those
    positions.  Players with size and skills
    who could have been on the Top 6 fringe with middle of the pack clubs killed
    our penalties, provided energy, checked top lines, etc.  Gainey, Carbo, Tremblay, McPhee, Keane,
    etc.  Those are the kind of players that
    great teams draft. 

     

    Do we have them in our system?  Can this management team development them?

     

  203. Mattyleg says:

    Your Detroit point is more valid than your Chicago one.

    It’s easy to build a good team when you suck so bad that you get amazing picks like Chi-town did.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  204. showey47 says:

    I’m not disagreeing with you. I think he can be that guy if used in the right role. If he is given a bigger role,especially on the PK and playing against teams top 2 lines he will be that guy.

  205. Say Ash says:

    I think the Leafs would disagree with your second comment.

  206. The Big One says:

    I like it.  Not only do we get a decent prospect back, but we get rid of OB’s salary.  What about a Guerin signing for 1 year with that cap relief?

  207. zak says:

    If management don’t like Timmins draft picks (they keep trading them away) why do they keep Timmins

  208. Chorske says:

    You and I are the two HIO posters most in need of an avatar update.

  209. Say Ash says:

    You know, I first had Gainey…gone. Then I chose “Snatch”…gone. I’m really debating who to use next. Any requests?

  210. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    A good trade. O’Byrne is big and there’s a load of calcium out there when he puts his skates on, but he had come up too soon and had serious confidence and judgment issues. I hope he does well enough to stay in the NHL for awhile.

  211. habfan53 says:

    The easy choice would be Spacek

  212. Willy the bum says:

    Wish O’Byrne luck in Colorado… it has been a tough season last year when his mother passed away, and struggling to get into the top 6, but to no avail.

    I’m sure he’ll get the chance with the Avs, and take some of this peer pressure off from us Habs fans.  A cheesy way of saying it, but for him it’s the next chapter of his career.

    Good Luck, O’Byrne!

  213. TomNickle says:

    That’s just as much of a product of the cap era as anything else is.

    Can we afford Hainsey, Komisarek, Markov, Subban, Streit, Rivet and Beauchemin?

     

  214. Xtrahabsfan says:

    ONE OF THE MORE REAL POST I’VE READ HEAR IN A VERY LONG TIME ,THANX …

  215. Mike D says:

    I just listened to OB’s interview and I gotta give him credit…a lot of credit actually.  I didn’t know much about him as a person since he wasn’t interviewed often, but I was very impressed with what I heard.

    He was asked some pretty tough questions about his experience in Mtl. and about his recent playing situation (lack of), and not only did he not side-step with his responses, but he answered them openly and honestly.  He never once bashed anyone in the organization or put blame on anyone for not getting a lot of playing time or “rope” to further develop and learn, where a lot of guys in his situation would/could have taken that path.  I never once heard about him being a distraction or making waves which is common if a guy in his position gets frustrated with how things are.  Instead, he showed a very positive attitude, spoke fondly of his teammates, experience with the club, city, and fans.  That’s a “team” guy with great character right there, and someone you want in the locker room – a true professional.  He said he didn’t request a trade and I believe it.

    You are a class act all the way, Ryan.  I wish you all the best in Colorado and hope you get the chance to play and prove yourself – you deserve it.  Hopefully you’ll reach your potential, find success, and be in the league a long time. 

    Your mom would be very proud of you.

    - Honestly yours

  216. HFX-HabFan says:

    No, don’t change yours!  I chuckle every time I see it.

  217. habfan53 says:

    Hainsey we gave up on,  Komisarek we would have signed he chose to go to Toronto, Markov we will re-up Subban is on an entry level Streit not worth what he is being paid, instead of Rivet we have Gorges (better) and Beauchemin was the same money as Spacek and we picked the OLD MAN .

    Therefore has nothing to do with the cap

  218. madcap_habsfan says:

    Good Luck O’Byrne

     

     

    -”People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” Chuck Palahniuk

  219. sailor2963 says:

    Ryan is a class guy.  I hope he gets back to playing the kind of game he played in Hamilton, where he impressed as a blueliner.  I saw him play in games where he was a dominant, physical presence.  Best of luck O’B.

  220. petrov14 says:

    QMJHL PLAYER RANKINGS #8 is Michael Bournival

    ______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.

  221. HardHabits says:

    I am merely a knight not a lord, it’s Sir Tankalot!!!

  222. Ian Cobb says:

    Chorske–read my post to you on the Summit page. And thanks for letting me hold your newborn. Great.!

  223. MontrealAtheist says:

    Another talented Habs player falls victim to the incompetency of JM, way to trade our assets away. Ironically OB is the one player who could have made the differrence against the Flyers due to his physical presence, but of course JM didn’t think so. Our results against the Flyers that series sure proved him right …

    I guess in the end it’s more important to have a French-Canadian player than a good and talented player.

  224. Ian Cobb says:

    I’ll let you use me, if you talk nice my friend. With my Habs hockey equipment on or in civvies??

  225. HardHabits says:

    You could’ve simply said I agree. It would’ve been simpler. Thanks for proving my point.

  226. Ian Cobb says:

    EMIL–Another poster that never has known quality of life, so just does not understand how great our management has been lately. You are missing out on so much of the process. But to each their own!

  227. DavidKB says:

    So, what is Guerin going to bring that we don’t already have? I’m not being facetious. I don’t know Guerin well enough, although I’m not sure Pittsburgh would have had all the parts needed to win the cup without him. What does he have left “in the tank”?

  228. LA Loyalist says:

    Ian, a few days ago you made a comment about a “Saku Koivu mentality” in the dressing room.

    Can you please explain/define? I’m not looking to argue, I wish to understand what you mean.

    Thank you.

     

     

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  229. Bugs says:

    Mr.Ian didn’t say that; I said that.

    I was referring to the same “mentality” or “aura” or “style” (call it waht you will) that led to the departures of Souray and Rivet, and the same mentality that kept him and Kovalev from working together to instill a sense of TOTAL solidarity within the club.

    The “clique” mentality. The “fractioned” mentality.

    Instead of the total team concept-one for all “mentality” or “aura” or “style” (call it what you will) we have now.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  230. showey47 says:

    I would say he will have more hits but not sure about blocked shots. He led the habs defencemen in hits last year despite only playing 55 games with limited ice time. He also had 11 hits in only 3 games this year which would put him on pace to be well ahead of anyone else again this year. Having adam foote as a mentor in colorado will pay huge dividens for him. I didn’t want to see him moved but i knew it was coming.

  231. Kythehabsfan says:

    Not sure I would categorize OB as ‘another talented Habs player’. OB has size, but that is about it. He is a 7th or 8th D at best in the NHL, but perhaps he will be able to find himself in a 3rd man pairing in Col. Not a big story here, and not unexpected since Markov came back. Picard, Webber, and Carle are each far more talented than OB.

  232. habsfan_61 says:

    ob lost his confidence thanks to jm not giving him a chance. another home grown ruined. this management team plain sux. some of these moves dont make sense. hopefully, the kid they got back will be good, in 3-5 yrs we will find out. good luck to ob.

  233. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you. appreciate the explanation.

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  234. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    I don’t think O’Byrne’s problems came from Martin. He was brought up from the minors much too soon in his development, because he was big, and not because he was ready. He then got off on the wrong foot with the purse prank incident. He added to that with the goal on his own net incident – a major stage-fright disaster. He then played fairly soft for a man his size, and always seemed unsure and indecisive on the ice. He got off to a horrible start, and just couldn’t find a reset button.

    He may become a solid extra wheel on a team where he has no history with the fans, where the (hockey) fans aren’t as nasty as ours, and where hockey isn’t what it is here. It’s an old story, and one we’ll see again no matter who is coaching.

     

  235. HUDSONHAB says:

    I always hope that players that leave the Habs do well. Except for those who go to our rivals like Boston, Toronto and Philly. So here’s to Halak and O’Byrne and Dags. Go get um.

    ….Hab4life….

  236. Born in a Bad Year says:

    Hits are an active stat, you can have as many as you like, even with short shifts.

    Blocked shots are more of a factor of how many minutes you are on the ice.  Last year he had half as much ice time as Hamrlik or Gorges.  If you adjusted his blocked shots for TOI he would have had over 200 for the season, as compared for their team leading 157 and 158.

    Even with a twelve game head start, I am sure I would win the bet.

  237. Say Ash says:

    In 3-5 years, he’ll be over 30. He had four years here, under two (well, three) coaches.

  238. HardHabits says:

    You know Bugs to his credit, Koivu inherited a fractured room and it had been going on since the Carbo/Chelios days. However Koivu’s captaincy never rectified the problem and in a sense eventually ended up exacerbating it.

  239. WarHero says:

    Thx SF :)

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  240. SeriousFan09 says:

    European Karjala Cup Tournament in progress, Alexei Emelin is part of the Russian team and they picked up a win, a 1-0 shutout of Finland, he had an even differential and no PIMs.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  241. kordic says:

    I don’t swing that way, but most Hockey players including  myself look good. If this guy was as good as you think he is, do you really think he would be playing in the Quebec league?

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  242. Mark C says:

    I didn’t make any claims or statements about how good he is, those are qoutes from scouts. Next years 1st overall pick may be from the Q (Sean Couturier).   

  243. Castor says:

    Dude. Go away.

  244. Wops says:

    Crosby played in the Q.

     

  245. SeriousFan09 says:

    More coming tonight, Louis Leblanc will face off against MTL’s only D prospect in the Q Morgan Ellis, Captain of the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  246. WarHero says:

    Nice! I watched Louis in the QMJHL super series game last night. Looked pretty good.

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  247. patience is a virtue says:

    lol.  no.  and like HH, i have no idea who they might steal from who – a knowledge of the teams in cap trouble might illuminate that.  but it does seem that we will need to free up more $.  My guess is a bottom 6 player goes as well.  Could be Moen?  Hmmmm.  Maybe even Benny?  I doubt it.  Depends on who is on offer I guess.  But White and others are waiting in the wings – we have bottom 6 depth to play with and a big fat hole in the top six. I dunno, maybe it’s too far a stretch…

  248. HardHabits says:

    Cap Space prior to the two moves 0.676 million
    Boyd, Dustin 0.650 million
    O’Byrne, Ryan 0.942 million

    Habs have 2.268 million in space now if NHL Numbers and my math are correct.

  249. patience is a virtue says:

    I am reading here and elsewhere that demoting Boyd to Hamilton and trading O’B will free up a minimum $1.6M, so I’ll put my money on a trade.  We give up a draft pick + a prospect or a bottom 6 player in exchange for a top 6 player that helps another team in cap trouble.

  250. shiram says:

    Cool, but im still wondering who we could get in that salary range that would fit a top 6 forward position.

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  251. HardHabits says:

    Honestly I haven’t got a clue. There must be more at work here. I heard a rumour that Spacek was on the block but that was a rumour so don’t quote me or ask me to find the link or source. I like the move because OB became OBsolete and Michaël Bournival looks like a decent prospect. My dismay with the Habs has always been the lack of decent kids coming up the pipe. They appear to correcting that now.

  252. ctony says:

    Oh oh.  You don’t think we are talking to Boston about Michael Ryder do you?????

     

  253. shiram says:

    Well if we move Spatch in a trade we have th space to get a rela top 6 then, i just dont anywhere where we could go to trade.

    Interesting moves.

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  254. Danno says:

    If we send Gnomezzzz down to Hamilton we could take the $100 million-dollar man off New Jersey’s hands

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  255. joeybarrie says:

    So does this mean we are freeing up cap space for another trade?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  256. mbplekfan says:

    This is a salary dump. We got nothing in return for an NHL calibre defenceman. OB will do well if he gets the icetime and a coach shows patience with him.

  257. Chuck says:

    We didn’t get ‘nothing’. Aside from a decent prospect, we got cap space in return, which in today’s NHL is like gold.

    Centre Hice: NHL to allow ads on jerseys

  258. Shiloh says:

    I’m just a fan as well, but don’t share the same opinion of Gainey. Picking up Gomez was a disastrous move. Not only did Sather dump one of the most toxic contracts in the history of sports – he actually got something for it. I also feel drafting Price with the #5 overall was a mistake – but not as goofy as continuing to call the kid Number 1 as he struggled hopelessly for a couple of years. Maybe Price will be an elite goaltender and maybe Eller will be an elite player as well – so we have to give Gainey the benefit of the doubt on the whole Price saga. But Gomer – that one alone means you can’t be called a great GM.

  259. Ian Cobb says:

    You are bang on Dave!

    It takes great management to think down range, most can only see whats in front at close range. But I am very glad that you also enjoy the process of becoming a winner. Just enjoying the win is so short. Better to see the whole picture my friend.

  260. HardHabits says:

    I hear a lot of grumbling from all these arm chair GMs. Me. I am just a fan.

    The Habs went through a dark time beginning with the Houle/Tremblay era. Gainey has done nothing but turn the franchise around and put them back on the winning track. PG is following suit. Moves like this are very good. Colorado is down. PG pilfered them. We got something for nothing. OB is expedient. Michaël Bournival looks like a very astute acquisition. Stocking the shelves is the way to go to build a champion. Kudos on this move.

    Now beat those Bruins tonight in their own barn woohoooo!!!!!!! Go Habs go!!!!

    Yes this is the real HH.

  261. mbplekfan says:

    The trade is obviously good news for Ryan. He will get a fresh start in a new city with a new coach.

    The problem I have is that we dont have any big defencemen in the system. Tinnordi is in junior and is years away from the NHL. And we trade away the only sizable player we have.

    I hope PG can wrangle another trade to bring us a depth guy later in the season. For the time being we are fine with just Picard in the pressbox but if Spatch or Hammer go down we need someone in a hurry.

  262. punkster says:

    Good. I like the real one because the tank commander was a pest.

    A few more moves like this, an off season signing and trade or two and we’ll be knocking at the door next year.

  263. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    FROM TSN – The Montreal Canadiens announced Thursday that the club has traded defenceman Ryan O’Byrne to the Colorado Avalanche for forward Michael Bournival. Ryan O’Byrne was pointless in three games with the Canadiens this season.

    Wow, thats a little harsh LOL.

     

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  264. RGM says:

    LOL Nice.

    Go Habs Go!

  265. ctony says:

    That requires good/lucky drafting and consistently strong player development.  Someone commented on Arpon’s blog this morning that after the OB trade we have only five players on the current roster drafted in the last decade (six if you go back far enough to include Markov).  That’s not good.  On the other hand, those players include: Plex, AK, PK, Markov, and Price – who really represent the core of the team.

    I know BG and PG are only responsible for the last half of that and  this comment will probably get me (even more) hate mail, but I would like to see more objective measures of our drafting success (like rankings from HockeyFutures).  Most of our prospects don’t score about 6.5.  Go to the active blog of any team and they will be talking optimistically about the players they draft.  I’d also like to see us  get more out of SK, D’Ago and others before we ship them out.  I’m not saying they are top 6 forwards, but Habs teams that win Cups had great depth from those positions.  Players with size and skills who could have been on the Top 6 fringe with middle of the pack clubs killed our penalties, provided energy, checked top lines, etc.  Gainey, Carbo, Tremblay, McPhee, Keane, etc.  Those are the kind of players that great teams draft.  

    Do we have them in our system?  Can this management team development them?

  266. Chorske says:

    Copied and pasted from another post.

    You must be with the Department of Redundancy Department.

    Also, “can this management team development them” is an AMAZING sentence. And the answer is yes.

  267. HardHabits says:

    I don’t invoke the tank lightly my friend. My optimism is founded in my perception that the Hab are building long term. My tank theory came about from watching too many years go by without a solid developmental process or farm system. The Expos had one of the best before they moved to Washington. That is the way to go. Knocking on the door for a few years running.

  268. wild flower says:

    Yes Gomez is terrible. Who do you guys think he plays his minutes agains – the other team’s forth line? Gomez and Pyatt playing tonight. Where are the Rangers Gomez replacements. Gaborik must be lighting it up off ice.

  269. HardHabits says:

    The Gomez move is not as disatrous as all you chicken littles claim. He was very good in the playoffs. What are we goign to do for a 2nd centre for the next few years? We gave up nothing for Gomez either. Very ggod trade. He’s sucking right now a bit but I like him as a Hab nevertheless.

  270. LA Loyalist says:

    Gomez? Playoffs? 2 goals, minus 6, amen.

    BTW Koivu has 4 goals and 2 assists in last 4 games and has contributed hugely to getting their season going.

    If we had Koivu instead of Nomez we would also have money for a big winger.

    Nomez is a financial boat anchor, all we can do is little peripheral moves.

  271. metro says:

    First Boyd, then O’Byrne. Are these moves just saving cap space for a trade deadline deal or do people think PG is trying to do something sooner? 

  272. SmartDog says:

    It’s just Gauthiers “sample then trade” philosophy.

    I hear he takes all his shirts back to Sears too.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  273. Bugs says:

    The return of Bergie?

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  274. avatar_58 says:

    Hmm? They had 2 extra defenseman as scratches and now only have one – Picard

  275. Bugs says:

    Yet still no pp.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  276. SmartDog says:

    Picard should be playing with PK.

    Rest the old guys for a game here and there. It’s a long season.

    ——–
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  277. JohnBellyful says:

    Wholeheartedly agree.

  278. punkster says:

    Good for OB. He’ll get another chance with a team that really needs D. Like most here I liked him and wished he had the vision (as some below have mentioned) to play a bigger role here.

    Is all this new found CAP space going to be put to good use soon? I hope not to pick up an unemployed vet. I’d prefer we trade for a young, established, hard-nosed forward who has the ability to play both a 3rd/4th line role and who has enough go-to-the-net sense to fill in on the 1st or 2nd occaisionally if required. Too much to ask?

  279. matraque says:

    Sweet.

    ——

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    Never go Full Retard
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  280. TomNickle says:

    Exactly two weeks ago, to the day.  I predicted that O’Byrne would be traded to Columbus or Colorado.

    I’ll go ahead and pat myself on the back.

  281. mike g says:

    Pierre McGuire?…

    Is that you?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  282. longtimehabsfan says:

    I understand there is no room for OB right now but I believe we gave up on him too soon.

  283. WestHab says:

    The bottm line is that there is no room and it’s not fair to him to keep him on a shelf if someone else could use him.

  284. RGM says:

    He’s been at the fringe of the roster since 07-08 – it can be debated whether he’d ever be a full-time NHL player until the end of the day, and ultimately we’ll all move on.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  285. Say Ash says:

    Too soon? Four years, dude.

  286. lenny says:

    I wonder if Denver has nice purse stores?

  287. WestHab says:

    Good luck! Ryan

  288. arcosenate says:

    Glad he’ll get a chance to play and develop, too bad he didn’t manage to get it together in Montreal, I hope he does out there.

  289. ds says:

    I think this trade essentially comes down to the almighty dollar.  O’Byrne was getting paid to be a top 6, not an 8th defender.  MTL getting a potential player is a fair deal.  I’m hope O’Byrne will become a reliable player, over here he never recovered from stealing purses and scoring on his own net but he needs some confidence.  Best of luck in Colorado. 

     

    The cap space on the other hand will come in handy come trade deadline when MTL can probably pick up a 5 million dollar winger to play LW in the top 6.

     

    Oh yeah sign M.A.B.

  290. 81frank says:

    we he speaks he looks and sounds like a young pocket rocket.

     

    http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=82353

  291. krob1000 says:

    Oshie broken ankle out 6 weeks…. bet the Blues wish Eller or Palushaj were still around.

  292. TomNickle says:

    They don’t need offense to beat teams like Columbus, oh wait…….

  293. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So just over 1.5 mill in space (according to capgeek.com). They waved Boyd, so he can go back to Hamilton if needed and be off the books, and now O’Byrne’s contract is off the books which looks like they wanted to just clear space right now…

    Anyone else think a trade/signing might happen? Would Guerin take a 1yr deal to play and help Gomez?

    What does everyone think, would you sign Guerin or look at trading (more cleared salary), and target a younger player, but more cash?

  294. TomNickle says:

    I’m more inclined to think that they’ll make another trade for a winger in the final year of his contract.

    Let the assumptions begin.

  295. Julie H says:

    So long O’B.

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  296. SmartDog says:

    5 YES/NO QUESTIONS (explanations optional):

    1. The Obi trade was the right thing to do.

    2. Waiving Boyd was also the right thing to do.

    3. Eller should be sent down.

    4. Eller should be given steady line-mates and more time.

    5. Gauthier and Martin are doing a good job.

    6. BONUS QUESTION: Is there a MEANINGFUL trade coming? If so, what is Gauthier after?

    ———
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  297. sims says:

    how bout resign gorges now? long term.  waiting is just going to make him more expensive

  298. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Yes

    2. Yes, if something comes out of it.

    3. No, I think JM has plans for his development this season.

    4. Yes, he does need more time.

    5. Yes, have few complaints.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  299. SmartDog says:

    Obi was wise beyond his years? 

    Not wise enough to stop flipping pucks out of his own end into the stands! :P

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  300. habs001 says:

    the odds are we will have d injuries during the season …i wonder who management consider as the first d to be called up from hamilton…

  301. habsperspective says:

    This calls for a celebration.  Finally the traffic cone is gone.  Not that it really makes a difference, he hadnt played most of the season, thankfully.  Maybe the mile high will help him clear his mind, haha. 

    Whatever, c-ya!

  302. ctony says:

    Two years left, but I like Dustin Penner.  28 y/o, 6’4″ 240 lbs.  32 goals last season, 9 on the PP.  Has a cap hit of $4.25m.  Not sure we could trade enough or clear enough cap space for him.

  303. alfieturcotte says:

    Chalk up another horrible trade by PG.  What possible value did he obtain for O’B?  This guy consistently makes horrible moves.  O’B was not a top 2, but will become a top 4 by year end.  He played tough, had a good point shot, solid skater/puck handler.  He was never given a fair shot. 

    Horrible move — FIRE PG. 

  304. punkster says:

    1. yes

    2. yes

    3. no (not yet anyways, but if TOI isn’t increased then yes send him down to get ice time)

    4. no to the line-mates, yes to more time…he still needs to experience and learn different situations

    5. yes

    6. Hmmm…I commented earlier that I hope we do not trade for an unemployed vet but rather for a young, strong, verstile forward we can use in different situations…too much to ask likely but if you don’t ask you don’t get :)

  305. thorandresson says:

    1. Yes, since he wasn’t playing, it was only a question of time before he got traded.  It seems like they waitied until a team got desperate so they could maximize on the return.

     

    2.  Yes, once again not playing and in the coach’s doghouse.  For those who defend him, even after he came back after being benched a few games he continued to make stupid mistakes.

     

    3. Eller should stay, I like what Arpon Basu and Marc Antoine Godin had to say about it.  Especially the bit about how Eller had a similar situation in his first few months in the Swedish Elite League, that’s probably why he hasn’t complained about it yet.

     

    4.  Yes, steady line mates will definitely help him.

     

    5. Yes and yes, I think PG is doing a great job taking care of business.  You might think he got nothing for Sergei, but at the time Halpern wasn’t yet in the picture, I think it’s partly the excellent play of Halpern that made Boyd useless to the team.  As for JM, he’s done alright, the team has a positive record and is playing great 5 on 5, but there are still major issues on offence (the PP and the Gomez line).

  306. TomNickle says:

    Spacek or Hamrlik would do the trick and I don’t think the team would have any problems signing Bergeron for cheap or giving Nash or Weber spot duty with the Habs.

  307. shiram says:

    I dont think you really described OB in there… he wasnt even playing in Montreal, and he somehow will be a top 2 D-man bey the end of the year?? how??

    How good of a puck handler was he, if he kept shooting the pucks over the boards…


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  308. ctony says:

    How would will it take to resign Gorges?  On the other hand, he’s one of our most marketable assets.  Young, RFA, good playoff run… It would hurt, but I would be willing to trade him for a proven top 6 forward.  

  309. twilighthours says:

    I’ve read a bunch of posters who call this trade nothing more than a salary dump.  Disagree.  Although it is partly a salary dump, it’s also a demonstration of how a classy organization can give a kid a second chance to resurrect his career.  If you don’t think JM / PG thought about O’B as a person, then you’re a jaded soul.

  310. punkster says:

    Now, now…those were souvenirshe was flipping to the fans in the knowledge that one day, when he’s a superstar, those very same fans will adore him and offer to share in the profits when they re-sell those valuable pucks. Gotta bolster that pension any way you can.

  311. ctony says:

    Do you want to call Lowe?  This could be wrapped by 4pm if get started now.

  312. N.B.habs fan says:

    Yes,he wasn’t play

    Yes.

    Yes,needs to play more and he will be better to play the full season with the Dogs.

    No

    Will have to see if they pick up a good foward and sit Gomas for a few games.

    Not enough cap space to pick up a good foward.

  313. twilighthours says:

    See, this is why people think you’re off your rocker.  Gorges will come fairly cheap and at a long term, giving us an excellent, durable, no-maintenance 2/3 D-man for years to come.  He would be one of the last Habs I’d trade.

  314. Psycho29 says:

    “He played tough, had a good point shot, solid skater/puck handler”

    Is there another Ryan O’Byrne we don’t know about?

  315. Shiloh says:

    1. An Obi trade was probably the right thing to do if we weren’t going to play him – whether or not Bournival pans out will decide how good this trade is.

    2. Yes – Pyatt will get more time and White deserves a shot.

    3. Keep Eller up.

    4. There will be an injury soon enough (unfortunately) and Eller will get his time. Until then use him the same way we have.

    5. Jury is out – they haven’t screwed up massively yet. Martin’s style can be boring, but who out there would be a better coach? I might have considered Boucher, but that chance is gone.

    6. Probably not meaningful. The cap space, even with these moves, is probably too tight.

  316. kirkiswork says:

    Can we forget about MAB already!

  317. Propwash says:

    What???? Oh, ok, anything to rip into Gauthier, gotcha.

  318. habfan53 says:

    WOW in 1 hour 257 post regarding Ryan O’Byrne 

  319. samTHEman says:

    1. The Obi trade was the right thing to do. Yes if the Canadiens intend on extending Picard and/or Gill or call up a Dman from the farm for 2011-2012 season. Or possibly trade for one.

    2. Waiving Boyd was also the right thing to do. Yes unfortunately. No room for him with Darche’s success. If he doesn’t fit in, he doesn’t fit in. Plus the Club might have plans on signing a top 6 winger, maybe Guerin or someone else.

    3. Eller should be sent down. NO F#@@

    4. Eller should be given steady line-mates and more time. YES F#$@

    5. Gauthier and Martin are doing a good job. The habs are 9-5-1, 3rd in the East with 19 points and NorthEast Division Leaders so I have to say YES, however Martin’s coaching is questionable and unorthodox with his treatment of rookies.

    6. BONUS QUESTION: Is there a MEANINGFUL trade coming? If so, what is Gauthier after?

    I tend to think so. The Habs are missing a top 6 winger who can score. The POWERPLAY is dead last in the league! Pouliot and AK have been good. Cammi and Gio are struggling. With O’B traded, freeing up almost 1 mil in salary, and possibly Boyd traded as well, frees up space to sign Guerin or X forward before Christmas.

  320. habs001 says:

    the leafs need scouts please apply

  321. punkster says:

    We traded OB, not ORR.

  322. Propwash says:

    Maybe he misread and thought PK was traded.

  323. rocketsglare says:

    The salary savings will definitely help the team as well as the prospect coming in the trade. Hopefully,

    the team will be able to use the savings to sign a winger that will be able to help with scoring.

    O’Byrne is going to a good, young team that will definitely be able to use him. I wish him nothing but the

    best with the Avs.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

  324. sims says:

    thats where you and i differ.  i would sign him for another 5

  325. Chorske says:

    1. Yes, for both parties.

    2. Yes, for the Habs. Kinda sucks for Boyd.

    3. GAWD no.

    4. People are SO crazy. Eller was never supposed to be anything more than 3rd or (more likely) 4th line this season. The fact that he has been used in a variety of situations- on the wing, on the PK, etc.- should be proof that JM likes the kid and is prioritizing his development. I have ZERO problem with how Eller is being used. His ice time should be five to seven minutes per game, in non-problematic situations where he can make mistakes and not cost the Habs a game. MAYBE by February ramp him up to ten minutes.

    5. Sure. Slow and steady. It ain’t exciting, but we don’t have a Kessel-sized millstone robbing us of top picks, either.

    6. No. I don’t get this constant theorizing that BG/PG have “another trade coming”. I promise you this: every time the Habs have made a roster move (trade, demotion, callup, buyout…), people start braying about how this is “just the beginning”. ANd they end up disappointed. Every time. This organization doesn’t do big flashy moves. No Brian Burkes here, no sirreeee. And thank GAWD for that.

  326. SmartDog says:

    Great if the organization things about the individual first.  But you know what – I’d like them to think about winning first.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  327. CBrady12 says:

    I agree, to us these guys are just names with numbers next to them, to those who are actually part of the organization, these guys are people, employees and colleagues….also no one can claim its a salary dump since none of us know anything about Bournival or what kind of player he will become

  328. CBrady12 says:

    yeah you are right, 1st place in our division, they don’t think about winning at all…god are you a moron or what

  329. sholi2000.com says:

    :)

     

    They Call Me Shane

  330. Chuck says:

    That’s almost as many posts as Higgins hit while he was here.

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  331. Bugs says:

    Brilliant!

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  332. kempie says:

    He didn’t play nearly tough enough for a guy who is 6’5″ 240. And really, if he’d just been more physical, there likely would have been a place for him.

  333. sholi2000.com says:

    Rob, that’s Julie’s signature, not an opinion on the subject.

    They Call Me Shane

  334. alfieturcotte says:

    No, one and only O’B.  Same O’B who was unafraid to throw a solid body check.  When was the last time you saw Hamrlik or Spacek anyone hard?  He also had decent puck handling skills, not Robinson like, but sound nonetheless.  Watch and see — O’B will be a solid top 4 and where will this mild prospect rise to — AHL caliber perhaps?  May not be as horrid a trade as Halak for Eller, but not too far off……

  335. SmartDog says:

    And you’re obviously a respectful young man whose parents brought him up well.

    ———
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  336. TripleX says:

    No need for personal attacks and name calling dude.

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  337. Bugs says:

    Or a fourth chance, for that matter. As is the case now.

    But you won’t hear me dispute CH classiness!

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  338. twilighthours says:

    Silly comment for a variety of reasons, with the most prominent being: O’Byrne wasn’t helping the team, he was sitting in the press-box, where he would have for the rest of the season.

  339. krob1000 says:

    You know who could be tradebait…final year of UFA, veteran, big, strong, tough cannon weilding pp point producing dman….Ed Jovanovski. Keep an eye on Phoenix…if they struggleJovo could be available and he would address two areas we are lacking at once…teh pp and the toughness in one swoop.  His contract comes off the books and the way things are going on teh PP and with Spacek and Hammer so up and down I wouldn’t rule something like this out.  we are all clamoring for a winger and that works too but it takes a special type to address what we need given our team speed up front, two way play,etc.  In all reality there are several other wing optiosn we haven’t tried yet oo….white, Palushaj, Eller on the top, etc.  Then there are the ever persistent Kevin Bieksa rumours…another pp guy with a hard shot and tough….there might be something to those rumours as well.  The Boysd waiving was very strange, 23 year old kid getting waived…..and clearing (even stranger IMO…I thought for sure soemone would pick him up)….but it had to be a precursor to soemthing.   Maybet he somethig isn;t even decided upon and we are just attaining felxibility who knows but I am glad OB gets a chance toplay, I am glad we got  a prospect out of the deal and I am glad we are stacked in Hamilton with guys capable of filing in. Hammer or Spacek could be moved and we could have Jovanivski now….or even another big ticket winger…againt hough that has to be a specific type f guy…a vet, someone capable of a two way game, etc…. interesting to say the least

  340. CHasman says:

    A big tough dman, a very classy final interview.  I liked him and thought he had potential but the timing wasn’t right here. 

  341. CHasman says:

    A big tough dman, a very classy final interview.  I liked him and thought he had potential but the timing wasn’t right here. 

  342. SeriousFan09 says:

    The organization is about winning and OB on the roster doesn’t help them win. Putting a young prospect in the system that could become an asset could help them in the future.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  343. New says:

    Good on the team to find a spot for O’Byrne. He appears to be a fine young man and Colorado should be a good fit for him. No sense him sitting around wanting to play and amusing the pressbox gang. Best of luck Ryan.

  344. observer says:

    Just like when Gainey/Gauthier draft they almost always pick a college player who is 4 years away and out of the media’s view so now again with this trade for another 18 years in return for a NHL player – merely to save their own sorry behinds and keep this scamming of Molson’s going.

  345. ctony says:

    There are lots of reasons why I’m off my rocker.  

     

    But, let me try to explain. I think Gorges is a good to very good defensive defenseman.  I really like him.  

    I also think he would want a 3-5 year deal with a $3.5m plus cap hit and I think we could get a real top 6 forward or first round pick for him.  Grudgingly I think it would be better to trade him than re-sign him — IF (and this is a BIG if) these are the right parameters.  Also, there aren’t a lot of other marketable assets on the books right now.  

    Nobody would trade for Gionta, Gomez, Cammi.  I don’t think we could get much for Hammer or Spacek (although I would move them to get more cap space).  Guys like Moen, Darche, Gill and Halpern have some value at the trade deadline (but they contribute and we need them).  Pouliot, Pyatt and Laps types aren’t going to fetch game changers.  I wouldn’t move Plex or Subban.  

    So, that leaves guys like AK and Gorges.  You either have to think they get you to a Cup or you move them and hope you get back players that fill a need – like a top 6 winger.

    I am fully prepared for the slings and arrows that accompany this post.

  346. TomNickle says:

    Jovanovski and Andrew Ladd, or similar players, make us a cup contender in my opinion.

  347. mike g says:

    I’ve never seen an 8th defenseman get so much attention and media coverage….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  348. habfan53 says:

    I have a meeting at  Brydens at 7pm tonight by 7:30 it will be over and was planning on watching the game. Interested??

  349. twilighthours says:

    Bugs, are you still here?  Are you lobbying for the return of Marc-Andre Bergeron?

  350. CBrady12 says:

    no im not…so what? lol

  351. TomNickle says:

    O’Byrne has regressed substantially since joining the NHL ranks.

    It could be confidence, could be atmosphere, could be lack of opportunity or a combination of all of these things.

    But there’s no place for his repeated mistakes on an NHL team and getting something of quality in return for him is noteworthy.

     

  352. habfan53 says:

    Only in Montreal or Toronto

    Look at the posts for and against MAB and he’s not even playing

  353. mike g says:

    I still can’t believe we couldn’t come up with a decent package for CHI…

    Big BUFF and Ladd would have been perfect, perfect fits on this team.

    Immagine Big BUFF playing defense on our team. Price would be his best friend, and his job would be so much easier. Not to mention our PP would be much better with him infront of the net.

    ATL robbed CHI in that deal….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  354. VintageFan says:

    A trade for a kid who might become a “viable NHL prospect”?  That’s a perhaps that might someday become a maybe?  Could the Habs use the cash to hire a real GM?  Or maybe a guy who might someday become a viable potential assistant GM?

  355. Danno says:

    Wishing you well Ryan. All the best.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  356. VintageFan says:

    How about Terry Harper if MAB is unavailable?  or maybe Lou Fontinato?  JM loves the veterans

  357. SeriousFan09 says:

    Biggest critique against Byfuglien was work ethic in CHI, never was consistent enough which is why he was dealt and Patrick Sharp retained. He seems to have a solid start in ATL this season but will that keep up for 82 games? If he does, it’s a win for ATL but CHI had to dump assets and get as much as they could, picks, prospects and the like as they organize for a run while ATL spins their wheels and their UFAs jump ship.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  358. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ryan O’Byrne yet to prove he’s a viable NHL defencemen.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  359. Bugs says:

    Are you talkin about Bournival or O’B?

    Cuz the “viable NHL prospect” tag could apply to both.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  360. twocents says:

    It looks like a decent point I made in my previous post may have been lost. Likely due to the rest of my ramble. So I’ll reiterate it more concisely.

    While speculation of more footwear hitting the dirt seems quite reasonable, another idea comes to my mind when thinking about this move.

    With our future Hall Gill now a
    Fordique, does this mean our new future Hall Gill is none other than
    Hall Gill?

    For next season anyway, this may be the case.

  361. Chuck says:

    Let me talk to my better half and see if I can get a night out.

    Meeting at Bryden’s eh?  :)

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  362. Mike D says:

    Very true and an excellent point.

    - Honestly yours

  363. Dintrox says:

    Martin has no clue as far as developing talent. Good luck OB.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  364. habs-hampton says:

    And just what do you think the market is for O’B? He’s the 8th d-man right now and probably has maxed out in Mtl. They can’t send him to the Bulldogs.

    You think maybe Sam Pollock could have traded him to the B’s for their 1st round pick next year?  You’re dreaming to think we could have done much better.

  365. Ian Cobb says:

    What a great move for the Canadiens, OByrne and Colorado.

    We get a top prospect.

    OByrne gets to play, which he deserves.

    And Colorado gets a kid that can contribute right away.

    Gainy and Gauthier are the cream that comes to the top. Great management.

  366. SmartDog says:

    I just don’t get it. You’re criticizing me for a comment on how classy shouldn’t be the measure of our success. Which suggest you value being classy. But then… you are you. 

    Doesn’t add up.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  367. showey47 says:

    Not crazy about the big galout being traded but most of us knew it was coming. I had hoped he would turn out to be an adam foote type player. At least now he might get to learn from adam himself.

  368. Bugs says:

    Lobbying? No.

    Wanting our pp to be efficient? Yes.

    For this, we need a left-handed point-shot.

    A left-handed point-shot + Andrei Markov = best pp in the League.

    It’s just business, Twilo.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  369. HardHabits says:

    1) It was expedient. OB was 8th on the depth chart. I like the trade. Michaël Bournival looks like he’s got potential and I am all for stocking the cupboards when building a team. Plus it frees up cap space.

    2) Again expedience. Boyd is on the far end of the depth chart. Ditto on the cap space.

    3) I thought about it but as SF09 pointed outed a few days ago he’d be competing with Maxwell and Desharnais for top minutes, unless Maxwell was brought up but that wouldn’t make sense as Eller is the Habs #1 prospect after Subban. Who’s to say that 5-10 minutes of NHL time isn’t better than 15-20 minutes of AHL time?

    4) Eller should do what’s expected of him and I am confident JM will let him know.

    5) Beyond my expectations, but we’re only in the 1st 1/4 of the season. I am still making my assesments on a game by game basis. I like our management team and I hope they’ll be in it for the long haul. PG appears to be a shrewd and wily one. Martin and BG are no slouches either. While other teams either implode or quick burn the Habs are methodically and steadily building a team that will consistently be a top 10 if not top 5 team for years to come. Those are the teams that win Cups.

  370. Dintrox says:

    Martin never gave the kid a fair shake.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  371. db says:

    So now there’s 2 spots available with Boyd being able to be sent down… and a tiny bit of cap space.  I think its a good setup just in case another mayjor injury happens.

     

    And damn, I can’t seem to trade OB to anybody in NHL11  lol

  372. Bugs says:

    You see Rod Langway the other night in Toranna?

    He looked good!

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  373. lenny says:

    the cream on the top? You gotta be kiding me!!

  374. habs-hampton says:

    Barring several injuries to D-men, O’B had alreasdy played his last game as a Hab anyway, and couldn’t go to the minors. This doen’t give a GM much leverage.

    Good luck to Ryan! I liked him, but it just didn’t work out.

  375. Mark C says:

    You would have the think this trade increases the odds of Gill returning on a 1 year deal. A lot can change from now to then, but as of today it seems like that might be the case.

  376. db says:

    To me, he’s like Hal Gill.. a post season force.

  377. mike g says:

    I don’t really care what ATL does….

    All I know is that Buff and Ladd woulda been excellent players here, and appreciated by all the fans.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  378. thebigguy says:

    People need to chill out. This idea, that seems to be repeated fairly frequently, that Molson/Gauthier don’t take winning seriously just doesn’t have logical foundations.

    Firstly, the habs are spending up to the cap. With this plus the Boyd move, they can actually call players up, make late season trades/signings, but nonetheless, the team is spending pretty much the max it can.

    The building is filled every night. Molson is not going to get additional money based on the regular season. The ony way the Habs can maximize profit is by making the playoffs and going on a nice run. The extra home games and jerseys sold, that’s the only additional income our owners can get.

    That being the case, why do some posters insist that Geoff Molson is scamming the fans, that Gauthier, his employee doesn’t care about winning? It’s a logical fallacy.

  379. Bugs says:

    He’s a “top prospect” now?

    Jeez, that was fast. Kid is maturing like gangbusters. He’ll be ready to make the final jump in 3 weeks at this pace.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  380. HardHabits says:

    We’re stocking the shelves Ian.

  381. mike g says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD_xWrhZ8yI

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  382. Bob Barker says:

    I agree, we really could have used the bag of pucks that was initially offered. Would have been useful for shooting drills. 

     

  383. habfan53 says:

    Yeah  it is turnover night for our ball league.  In case I miss you’re post  I’ll have a red HABS windbreaker and HABS cap on.

  384. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Amen

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  385. Bugs says:

    Agree.

    Soobie is regressing more and more every day.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  386. SmartDog says:

    Didn’t say I thought it was a bad move.  I’m indifferent. I think he has potential but what are you going to do?  They guy kept messing up ON THE ICE where it counts.  Another case of a player being rushed maybe, but what’s done is done.

    My point was that I’ve heard this classy thing a lot the last couple of years and especially WRT Boucher.  In the case of Obi, okay, but in the case of Boucher, I think it was the knee-jerk to let him go. Sometimes I think you have to think beyond the EASY RIGHT THING for the person and strategize how to make everyone happy.  Classy is good obviously. But classy and winning… better.  I recall the Red Wings refusing to let someone talk a couple of years ago. Can’t recall who.  I wonder what the circumstances were there and how it worked out.

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  387. Mark C says:

    Martin gave him 55 games last year at over 15 minutes a game, what more did he deserve?

  388. Say Ash says:

    Naw, he’ll be playing with Gomez by the weekend.

  389. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Just maintaining the balance eh Ian?

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  390. Bugs says:

    Hey, buddy, we don’t do calm and level-headed reasoning here, ok?

    Who IS this guy?

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  391. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Also Amen

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  392. showey47 says:

    Gomez being sent to the Q?

  393. Bugs says:

    Now, you’re just being sil…ohhhh, you mean by sending Gomie to the Cataracts?

    I doubt we can do that though.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  394. Ian Cobb says:

    You got it Dave.

    Gill, Hammer, Spacek, Gomez and Gionta are in their twilight years, and we are stocking the shelves,as you say my friend.

    So fortunate that we have such great management again.

  395. Ian Cobb says:

    Speaking of balance, what about the other eye?

    Could not resist my friend.

  396. Say Ash says:

    Only if it’ll count in my hockey pool. He’s killing me, man!

  397. Ian Cobb says:

    There are a lot of people that are off center bigguy, criticism and negativity is a way of life. They just miss out on the fun is all.

  398. HardHabits says:

    If we colour it for you in crayon would you understand it then?

  399. light_n_tasty says:

    If you picked Gomez in any pool, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

  400. punkster says:

    EdJo would be interesting. However, it will set off a bunch of “he’s too old and slow” comments from the peanut gallery because he’s over 25. So in that regard…by all means :)

  401. Fire_Laraque says:

    Michaël Bournival, 6 feet high, 187, playing in the Juniors for a 6 foot 7 defender playing in the NHL the last 4 years.  Nice trade.

  402. Storm Man says:

    So I take it you like this deal?

  403. WarHero says:

    We got a decent prospect and cleared cap space. Now we have room/cash for that top 6 winger :)

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  404. Propwash says:

    Who here did not see that coming?

  405. gumper says:

    Six foot 185 pound centre. Third rounder of Avs in 2010. Has 24 points in 17 games with the Cataracts.

  406. TomNickle says:

    This is an interesting trade.

    Certainly provokes questions about future trades.

    We now have Maxwell, White, Desharnais, Dumont and Engqvist in Hamilton who are natural centreman and have Leblanc and Bournival playing junior at centre.

    Neither Leblanc or Bournival are long for the junior ranks.  Both very likely to be AHL capable by the end of the season.

     

  407. SeriousFan09 says:

    White is a winger as often as not and I suspect he’d be an NHL winger, Engqvist’s praised for his PK talent in Hamilton, I think he’s likely our next Halpern in terms of development. I suspect Desharnais or Maxwell will be moved this season as well to make room for oncoming bodies, Danny Kristo will be joining the Dogs as well.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  408. dhenry1234 says:

    Anyone know the potential of this Bournival kid? Will he ever play a top 6 role or did we just give up on OB for a career AHLer?

  409. ooder says:

    dude it’s been like 2 minutes..

    give SF some time.. yeesh

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  410. RGM says:

    Was O’Byrne ever going to amount to much more than a fringe roster player? Come on, man.

    Predictions are difficult, especially those about the future. Kid’s got some size to him, hopefully he can develop well for the organization.

    Go Habs Go!

  411. ctony says:

    OB was done here and has limited upside in NHL.  The real value in this deal was getting cap space. If this kid amounts to anything it will be bonus.  We have space to add a player.  Shedding OB and Boyd means $1.6 million according to CapGeeks and more according to every other posting on this site.  I think (hope) PG has something brewing for a top 6 winger.

  412. TomNickle says:

    Don’t hate me for my foresight.

  413. mike g says:

    To be honest…

    Alot of the sites I visit, not Hockeybuzz, have been saying for 2 weeks that OB was likely to be dealt.

    I felt like he was going to be traded too, just by the way he’s been sitting in the box.

    And those sites all mentioned CLB, COL, and ANA as possible destinations..

    So, I guess I have to gice you credit because you say you said it 2 weeks ago, and I believe you.

    But I’ll only give you one tap on the back, not 2…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  414. habitual says:

    It was not fair for him to be kept when Martin had no faith in him, but we have given away depth on D when, after this year, with UFA and age a factor.  O’Byrne will never be a Norris trophy winner but we waived goodbye to someone who could have given us decent minutes and toughness.

    This may not bite this year, but it will next. 

    I’m starting to work up a dislike for Martin …

  415. longtimehabsfan says:

    Plus, we clear 1.4 million of cap space for a player who never plays.  I wish OB luck. 

  416. WestHab says:

    OB missed the window between when komi left and Subban came up. If for whatever reason he could not get a starting spot before Subban came up he was not going to fit. Pk just gets a lot more ice time than most rookie d men.

  417. ctony says:

    I’ve seen Engqvist play a couple of times and think he has a long term potential as a third line center.  Good size, skating, responsible defensively.  

  418. TomNickle says:

    It’s no secret that the team covets centremen who they can then move to the wing.  Cammalleri, Lapierre, Pyatt.

    I think the numbers game is going to take effect in Hamilton like you said, maybe it won’t happen until the Summertime but you never know.

    They’ll have White, Avtsin, Leblanc, Bournival, Dumont, Masse, Pacioretty, Engqvist, Palushaj, Schultz, Conboy, Lefebvre, Kristo, Maxwell, Fortier and Bishop at forward.

    16 forwards.  I think we can go ahead and assume that White will be with the Habs next season but I wouldn’t be banking on Pacioretty and Palushaj yet.  Maxwell also has a really good chance but he doesn’t really fit in all that well considering we have Gomez, Pleks, Eller and Cammalleri.

    Not much room for him.

  419. Storm Man says:

    Now we just need you to put Gomez as your pic so he can be the next to go.

  420. longtimehabsfan says:

    I know.  I just liked the guy and was hoping he would become a regular.

  421. longtimehabsfan says:

    Fat chance.  Even Glen Sather wouldn’t trade for that contract.

  422. HardHabits says:

    This site cracks me up. Far too often!!!!

  423. Storm Man says:

    Maybe you need to stay away from crack.

  424. HardHabits says:

    I’ve been celibate for a while now.

  425. Storm Man says:

    LOL….. Well done.

  426. BJT says:

    I predict within the hour SF will have a freakin’ essay written on the guy and all of our questions will be answered.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  427. Harani says:

    @TSNBobMcKenzie tweets: “Bournvial scouting report: Smart, hard-working 2-way forward with hockey sense/character. On radar for Team Canada/WJC. Will get a look” 

    @eduhatchek tweets: “Colorado played four kids (Shattenkirk, Cohen, Holos and Liffiton) on defence vs. Cgy Wed, which explains why Ryan O’Byrne is an Av this am.”

     Alexandre Picard is more stable and risk-free defenseman than Ryan O’Byrne and also his relatively lower cap hit. Ryan O’Byrne, let’s be serious, wasn’t goign to get a shot this year unless one of Markov, Pk, Gorges, Hammr, Spacek, Gill or Picard got injured.

    He probably wanted a new start and he gets one with the Avalanche who were ready to part with a propsect becaue they desperately need help on defense after injuries to Kyle Cumiskey, Adam Foote, Kyle Quincey who are out with head injuries. They dressed four D the other night with less than 10 games of NHL experience. So, I think this is a good deal. Both are third rounders, albeit Bournival is a forward.

    Bottom line, I think instead of O’Byrne just sitting in the pressbox and eating hotdogs for his approximately 1 million dollar hit, we free that up and also get a young prospect in return.  O’Byrne is a good guy and he deserves a chance. Good luck to him. 


    I think we didn’t get no slouch, and he’s from the Q. All the better!

    “It must be love!”

  428. nickster13 says:

    I dont think the Q is all the better. The Q is at an all time low right now in terms of top prospects.

  429. shiram says:

    Yup, i dont see why some are taking a negative turn on this one.

    We free up some cap space, we get a decent prospect,  he speaks french as well, and we still have some depth in the D department as well.

    OB didnt make sure he’d have a permanent spot on the team, and now he gets another try in Colorado, and i’m hoping it works out for him.

     


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  430. WestHab says:

    This is nice for OB he’ll be alot closer to home and fly into BC 3 times a season with the AVS.

  431. Chuck says:

    Rumour has it that Ryan will drop the “Rhino” nickname in favour of “Bigfoot”.

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  432. patience is a virtue says:

    My guess is that cap space for a top six winger was the focus of this move and Boyd’s demotion.  If they sign, or trade, for someone who produces it will be more than worth losing O’B.  I agree with much of what has be written to explain and justify the trade, but would like to add that the nail in Rhino’s CH coffin was none other than his pressbox mate, Picard – same age, brought in to push him, surpassed him on the depth chart.  That says it all.  I doubt we could have got much more in exchange, but I do wish him all the best!

  433. shiram says:

    While i do agree on most of your post, i am jsut wondering what kinda top 6 forward can we get for about a million?


    Poutine, the perfect trio, on any line.

  434. Shiloh says:

    Bournival seems pretty interesting. If we weren’t going to use O’Byrne this makes sense.

  435. TripleX says:

    Saku is back!  Saku scored his sixth goal of the season as the Ducks won their fourth straight over SJS.  Nice to see you back in form Saku!

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  436. Bugs says:

    Pressure of the captaincy taken off in Anaheim.

    Snap! Oh no, I di’in’t!

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  437. Mr.Hazard says:

    Bournival sounds to me a bit like Lapierre? Or at least, the description of Bournival is similar to the way that I see Lapierre (good at most things, but not great at any one thing).

  438. Bugs says:

    Disagree. Lappy is EXCEPTIONALLY great at something few others are in the NHL.

    Easily top 5.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  439. DLHABSNUT65 says:

    Good for O’Byrne, he’ll fit in well there!! I think he can be a decent D-man with time and experience!! Who knows what the pressure to play in Montreal did to him! Some thrive in the pressure but others….

    I think we got a decent prospect in return but I can’t help but think esp. with the Boyd waiver that there’s something else brewing. Let’s give Gautier a chance to tinker or hit a home run!!

    On another note, I hope les boys creme the Bruins tonight…Laffs have lost 7 in a row!! Maybe somebody needs to put on a countdown or countup, since the leafs last won!! LOL!! They did it to our Carey Price!! Any of the Halakites notice he got the hook last night!! GO HABS GO!!!

  440. DLHABSNUT65 says:

     I will say O’Byrne did get outplayed by Picard and I hope to see Picard back in the lineup soon!!

  441. rwolowid says:

    MY 2 FAVOURITE TEAMS,THE HABS&ANYBODY PLAYING THE LEAFS

     

    Hell Lets gat a counter since the last time they won a cup

  442. vic says:

    I bwlelive Martin did not like OBurne and it showed.How could learn when he knew if he made a wrong move it was the bwnch.

    I am happy for him to get away from Martin and hope he does well under proper coaching.

    Where is Picard? Developing in the press box?

  443. WarHero says:

    Who would you sit so Picard can play?

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  444. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Why do so many posters think its OK for a guy to make all his mistakes on the ice at the NHL level? Last I checked the canadiens goal is to win as many regular seasons games as possible to finish as high as they can. If O’B needs more time to learn how to play let him do it in the minors or for some other team. I have no interest in benching one of my NHL ready d-men so that O’b can learn at the expense of the teams overall performance. As someone stated on here the other day “the NHL is NOT a developemental league”.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  445. spos080808 says:

    Um buddy Obryne is 26!

    And Picard is 25.

    How much more “development” can you give them. They are who they are. Fringe NHL Dmen.

    They are not 21/22.

  446. habaddict_andy says:

    JM wasn’t the only one who didn’t the way O’Byrn was playing. Good luck to him in his new home.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  447. Chorske says:

    I think this was the classy thing for the Habs to do for O’Byrne. We’re stacked on D, he clearly had hit his ceiling here in MTL.

    I’m sorry to see him go. Seems to me a huge Dman with a recent trend of increasing reliability and hitting would be considered a major asset here. But he will get a huge opportunity to show his stuff in COL, so this is a great move for him.

  448. mike g says:

    Price is a career 9-2-2 against the Beaners….

    The Bruuuins are banged up having lost Kreji, Savard, Sturm and Boychuk to injuries. They played last night.

    Time to take advantage of this 1st meeting against them, because when healthy they’re in the top 3 teams of the East, if not #1.

    Take the 2pts while they’re there….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  449. Bugs says:

    We musn’t diminish the psychological edge we hold over them either. They hate us. They hate losing to us. And the more they hate, the less they think.

    Heard Rask was in tonight. Woulda preferred Timmy. Yes, he’s playing absolutely sensational, but in Mtl, he has been known to…fold under the pressure.

    I think that if we score the first goal, we should manage to pull it off.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  450. SeriousFan09 says:

    I get the feeling the Habs will beat the Bruins tonight and it will be a solid win, but they’ll manage to crap the bed against Carolina. Seems like one of those weeks where we’ll drop the Contenders but lose to the basement-dwellers.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  451. Mark C says:

    “Byrne wasn’t going to play in MTL. Picard had gone by him on the depth chart. He will get plenty of opportunity in COL, where the Avs are decimated with injuries on teh blueline. This is O’Byrne’s big chance. He’s obviously a huge guy and has some physical presence though he’s not a real punishing type player but if he were to emulate someone, I would say look at the kind of player Hal Gill has become. O’Byrne will either get it in COL and establish himself or he’ll be on the slippery slope. As for Bournival, the scouts I talk to like him as a solid prospect, smart, hard-working, can play all three forward positions. He’s going to get a look for Canada’s world junior team this year”.   —From Bobby Mac’s web chat on TSN

  452. Bugs says:

    I consider McKenzie to be the cream of the crop.

    But I must disagree with one thing: O’B IS a punisher. In the last 4 years with this team, HE’S the one who’s delivered the most gargantuan hits. Rarely perhaps, due to timing and opportunity, but DEFINITELY the most punishing.

    It’s his GREATEST talent actually.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  453. LA Loyalist says:

    true, but he’s particularly offensive.

    :) sorry, I can’t help it sometimes.

  454. lenny says:

    Actually, Boucher took the second job offered, the first being Columbus.

    Gomez was traded to add offence, not deffence

     

  455. TomNickle says:

    Gomez was added for both.

     

  456. SmartDog says:

    All I can say about this trade is… at least he didn’t go to the Bolts!

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  457. Bugs says:

    Nice.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  458. punkster says:

    Can you imagine this place if…nooooooo!!!

  459. lenny says:

    Sorry Ian, I cant see how you can call the moves PG and Gainey have made as “great management”….

    Was it great management to get Boyd, then place him on waivers?

    Was it great management to handcuff the organization with Gomez’s Contract?

    Was it great management to Sign Gionta for 5 Million, when most analyst say he is worth approximatly 4 million per year?

    Was it great Mangement that thery let Boucher slip through our fingers?

    This trade is just another among they “great managers” blundrs….

  460. HFX-HabFan says:

    Easy, Lenny.

  461. mike g says:

    Was it great that you created a HIO account, only to come here and bitche all the time?

     

    If you’ve had it with management, write them a letter telling them what you feel, and let us know what happens. Cuz I know I’m bored of hearing the same old crap. You’ve got your POV, and they have theirs.

    Problem is, they’ve been successful enough to have the luxury of sitting in that position while you’re not.

    And speaking of blunders, look no further than the Tampa Lightning. Boucher won’t be winning any Adam’s trophy’s anytime soon. If you know anything about hockey, you’ll know why.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  462. darcy1 says:

    in case you didn’t know, Ontario & QC have a higher tax rate than most (if not all) of the NHL. unfortunately we have to overpay to get players because their takehome dollars are less if they sign a $5 dollar contract here compared to florida where there is no income tax.

  463. Ian Cobb says:

    Lenny. Answers to your questions. Yes,

    Yes, (not handcuff at all, he is a great asset. Look how he is shutting down the top lines in the league, scouring will come if needed.

    Yes, same answer as for Gomez, and don’t forget, we acquired the players, their contracts were given by other teams, remember.!

    Boucher bolted to the first NHL team that came calling. He was never going to coach here!

    My happiest day was to see Bob Gainey come down the 401 to Montreal. He said he had only 5 years to give, and he did by putting this Humpty Dumpty organisation back together, from top to bottom.

    We have not seen this kind of great entertainment in Mtl. in more than 15 years.

  464. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Obviously theyhoped for more from Boyd and it didn’t work out. In any case, I think Ellis was viewed as the main asset in that trade. F***ker wouldn’t sign though.

    2.Not the way he is playing now, but let’s hope it’s just a mini-slump.

    3. Yes. Gionta is worth it. He would be “worth” $4M in a place wih lower taxes, but the Habs have to pay more to match take-home pay.

    4. It’s too bad we lost him but the circumstances made it hard to keep him.

    You should also mention signing Pleks for $5M, drafting PK, having faith in Carey Price, signing Jeff Halpern – all great moves. Sure some decisions flop and others pay off. You can’t just look at the ones that didn’t work out.

  465. Harani says:

    I meant the province as in he’s Quebecois. Don’t follow the QMJHL much.

    “It must be love!”

  466. mike g says:

    1st goal, especially on the road, is key….

    But don’t kid yourself, Raask isn’t coming into this one with booming confidence. Price right now has that edge, and if it comes down to goaltending, based on their current streaks and confidence, we got the edge.

    Our PP must click tonight, because Horton and/or Bergeron will surely get one on their PP’s.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  467. HFX-HabFan says:

    Tonight’s game is in Boston.

  468. Bugs says:

    Against Mtl.

    Sorry.

    Despicably despondent, I yawn as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  469. mike g says:

    We always lose to CAR, and yes I see us losing again to them…

    But tonight, I think it will be a 3-2 game. Very close.

    Julien won’t want to play run-and-gun. They played last night, are maybe tired, and he will want to play a solid defensive game vs us. He knows we have trouble scoring, so if the Bruins play solid D, which they can, and Raask has a solid game, which he can, the Bruins might pull it off.

    The only way I see us winning is if the PP gets 2 goals and we score another 2 at even strength.

    Can’t expect Price to allow 2 goals or less every game.

    Can we ever give the kid some breathing room?…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  470. sidhu says:

    Good for OB, good for the Habs.

    OB clearly fell out of favor with JM.  Now he has a chance to play and prove his worth with a different team.  For us, we no longer carry 8 D and we free up cap space for a potential move.

    Good luck, OB!

  471. andrewberkshire says:

    Finally got my frickin’ mac back and O’Byrne is traded the same day? Curious.


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