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Get a kick out of those who think
s. savard is some kind of savior since his poor vision (not scouting / drafting europeans) was what led to the quik decline into mediocrity after the last cup
Here at the game in Winnipeg tonite. Habs jerseys everywhere. The love for this team is phenomenal wherever you go. Go Habs.
Thanks everyone for giving me one of the most enjoyable, albeit least productive work days of my life. Glad I own my own business or I’d have to fire my a** after today. Say what you will about Habs fans, but nobody can say we don’t care.
When does Kostitsyn get another shot as a top 6 forward?
With 10 goals in 25 games, he’s got the best goals per game average of any of the top scorers on the team.
At this rate, the cap may not be an issue next year. Gorges is most likely lost to free agency because of the contract negotiation failure last summer.
And we know Kostitsyn wants to play on one of the top 2 lines. The way some of the other guys are not producing, if they don’t show Kostitsyn some respect, he may not want to sign here either.
Habs should see if Nashville would go for this: P.K. and Danny Kristo for Ryan Suter, Blake Geoffrion and Brian McGratton. Throw in a pick if Preds sign Suter first.
Suter by himself is worth that ‘package’. PK is having a BRUTAL year, and there’s no way of knowing if this isn’t what his NHL career will look like. Danny Kristo is just a prospect.
When Detroit was in the toilet they went after the NY Islanders Devallano who helped build Cup champions. We need to get Jim Nill from Detoit and let him figure out this mess. I’M sure he probably knows a few coaches and scouts that may help.
Nill has no desire to run his own show. If he had, he’d have left Motown years ago.
Maybe it is time for some to put there money where their mouth is. Mr Molson you are not only losing games but fans and public support as well. These so called fans that think you should purchase the team and they should tell you how to run it should step up to the plate. You Nationalists out there that seem to think that this team is yours and your heritage is at stake. Please put a group together so that you can purchase this team and show us how it is all done. While the rest of us Habs fans are cheering the team on and hoping for a turn around you are out there stiring up garbage again like you are the only one that matters. There are teams in the NHL that are starving for a good owner and could be moved to a new city that would make you a tidy profit and you could rid yourself of these trouble making politicians that exist only in their own minds. Let the Nationalists buy and run the team and see if they are any better. Good luck with getting any players to come and play for you as the options for them are far better elsewhere. Watching our team sink to the level that now exists has been hard but listening to you self centered ***** has made this unbearable.
So is BG and PG still here? Things have gotten so bad, Subban looks like Brisebois at his worst. Cammalleri is also looking like Samsonov. Most of you supported those incompetents the last few years, when I was trying to warn you how they were leading the team down the wrong path. Now you have to deal with that. Hope you are enjoying.
Long time reader, only started to post recently. Was always in agreement. Loved Gainey as a player/can’t stand him as a GM/advisor. Did not like the move of bringing Gautier in soon after he was named GM in /09. Detested his moves/his almost total avoidance of players available who had demonstrated any physicality. Could never understand the almost blind support for the direction this management was taking.
But, I’m a Habs fan and take no solace in the fact that this team seems completely lost.
I will be in front of BC on january 7….to give those protestors my middle finger.
Is Carbo coaching his jr. team these days? If so, what’s the word?
It`s all my fault they are losing I have Paxs & Subban on my hockey pool team
They need to get some Hockey poeple with experience and know how to use there young players before they bolt……
Leblanc should be playing on the top 2 lines if not he should be in the minors…..
Cammi get your Sh%? together and play like you can.
Wow. Lot of people running around with their hair on fire. Hopefully the team is not acting this way, cause if they are then the season truly is screwed.
1 – Cunneyworth is a good coach who will earn the players respect. You can see that he engages with them during the course of the game and is a good instructor. He will get a handle on things, so long as the media and fans don’t sabotage things because he isn’t French.
2 – This team is much better than they are playing right now. They have the ability to compete for a playoff spot, but have to toughen up, both mentally and physically. Cunneyworth has mentioned it a few times already, and everyone who watches the games knows that when the Habs lose, its usually due to soft play in both the offensive and defensive zones.
While the playoffs are getting harder to imagine, it is not too late. With a better group effort, and a real willingness to go to battle, they can right the ship. Let’s hope they use the frustration so evident after last night’s loss and get things started tonight in Winnipeg.
I’m stunned to see so many die hards be willing to essentially write this season off if it meant getting a measurably better team going forward, and I’m one of them. First off, commit to Price, PK, Pax and I don’t care if they’re RFA’s or not, lock them up and make them the corner stones for the future. Gill, Cammalleri and possibly Gionta have huge trade potential for a contender one or 2 players away from being an elite team. Pleks and Cole are character players and solid second liners. Prospects and/or draft picks in return only. Sever ties with AK, bury Gomez in the minors, and be prepared to do something similar with Markov and you’ve freed up over 20 Million. Get a top flight GM and coach with a long term vision for this team and let them do their jobs. Even though Edmonton had a horrific team last year, their fans stayed loyal because of the promise of great things to come. Habs fans are just tired of the constant mediocre teams both on ice and upstairs and if it means 3 steps back to take 5 forward, I doubt very much their streak of sell outs will come to an end anytime soon.
I’m not rightin’ things off ..just yet..but it’s gettin’ close to that with the circus that’s going on now with this once Proud and Respected organization.
As it stands now I would take AK over PK…
Management has very poorly managed the salary cap situation .
Keep RC..fire PG..hire Serge !
vegetarian ….Indian word for ” poor hunter “
They blew it up in 2009 and it hasn’t taken us anywhere, except for a very fun run the first year. If you look at capgeek the top 7 earners have NTC’s or Limited Movement Clauses so they might be handcuffed anyway. But this isn’t a team that’s a player or 2 away from being elite. PK, like others, is suffering in his second year, but there is a ton of potential there. AK is just too inconsistent to look at investing 4-5M a year to keep him. Sadly, couldn’t agree more with the ONCE Proud and Respected line. Sigh.
It seems that our last best chance at winning it all was 2007-08.
We won the East, had a line of Kovy, AK and Pleks, plus Streit ,Koivu etc.
That’s when BG put all his eggs in Price’s basket. That seemed to work in the first round agianst Boston Price stumbled but recoverd with a shutout in game 7.
Next round Price lost his confidence and the team also lost its confidence in their goalie and their play showed.
Maybe we would have been off keeping Huet as a back-up/mentor/some one to push Price.
Pinning it all on Price is a bit too simplistic. The forward hit more goalposts than I care to count, Biron had a ridiculous series, and Umberger…frickin’ Umberger. Price could have been better, sure, but in fairness the kid (which he was at the time) had played an absurd amount of hockey and was just worn out.
GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
Price should never been thrust into that situation. He wasn’t ready-no fault of his.
Hey Geoff, I hope you read some of these comments. You’ve kicked the hornets nest. Cunneyworth can take the high road with impunity knowing his stock will rise with the other 29 no matter how this human interest spectacle unfolds.
If you are reading, it is time to jettison yourself from the presidency, PG & his associates from the front office & bring in recently unemployed Ken Dryden as president, Serge Savard as GM, Patrick Roy as coach and put a golden handcuff on Carey Price…
A little TLC (Term, Linemates & Cash) will go a long way
OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!
So close to full agreement, but the thought of Roy behind the bench scares the Depends off me.
I will wager you all my Brian Gionta rookie cards that he does not read any one of these comments.
And Gainey has been the downfall for 19 years..and 1993 the stars weren’..and t alaigned just perfectly ..and all the other GM’s have drafted better than us…and and and
From my perspective, and abode under my bridge (to appease some here, heh), this ongoing SYSTEMIC crisis falls squarely on Bob Gainey’s shoulders. The one who brought in JM and his system/style is for the most part, what ails this team. The unlikely playoff run of ’10 was little more than the heroics of Halak, Cammy, Gionta. The harping of the ‘blocked shots, great D’ crowd amused me..like facing 60 shots a game was the norm lol. It was all Bubblicious.
JM LOST THE ROOM with his utter lack of sound judgment, motivation, and employed favouritism/unfairness in dealing with the roster’s TOI, and line ranking. In spite of all the scapeGoat firings, tail-chasing trades, and neverending musical-chair line combos, this organization is no closer to getting on track. There hasn’t been a discernible difference with RC behind the bench as of yet, with the players demonstrating that same unfocussed direction, continuing lack of will and beleaf in this coaching staff/management. Seemingly unprofessional of the players, it’s often attributed to psychological factors.
Geoff Molson’s press announcement most definitely sent out a poor message(s). Highlighting the language issue of a coach for one, but the appointed interim tag for the rest of the season smacks of self-defeat/cutting your losses, for him and the fans. In other words, his hands are tied with no options in doing more now to salvage the season. Just hope for the best.
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Is there away I can get to post a comment without having to scroll down through about 100 posts ? Maybe move it to the top ??
The season began with such optimism …now the once great hockey dynasty/ organization has been reduced to a laughin’ stock !
Dismal performances ..the Gomez thing..now Gionta..Cammy ..PK is suckin’ big time and Price has been ordinary ..and NOW …endless posts about the Halak trade…and of course the language issue !
I hope Santa will be good to us …we deserve it !!
Steve! Its time to get out in the woods and the hunting camp for some R & R-um!
haha!!!..actually headin’ out tomorrow for the day .. it’s a good spot to be when everthing around you is so hectic ..had a good year with the trees !!!
Best to you friend !
I just finished reading Stephen King’s new novel: 11/22/63. Fascinating. It’s about a school teacher who goes back in time to try and prevent the hiring of Bob Gainey as GM of the Habs. He succeeds. As a result, no Gauthier, no Martin, no Gomez, no Cammillarri, and also..no Carey Price. Result: Habs put a string of 5 Stanley Cups in a row together with Jaro Halak as their number 1 goalie and a mute as head coach.
Oh…and 1 more thing…habsinsideout doesn’t change to hockeyinsideout.
Really? So Houle is the GM of this team you speak of with Tremblay coaching?
OH Mercy please!
I just think that Molson will come up with a ringer! He might speak to Scotty Bowman for all we know!
He said it was written by Stephen King, so it has to have a scary element to it. In the epilogue, Mario tremblay passed out on the night of the Detroit game by knotting his tie too tight, and Roy was pulled after giving up 5 goals only, ended up staying and not only led us to 5 more Cups, but was even the leading scorer in one of those years.
Except it is only happening right now in the parallel universe that intervention created. We, are still stuck in the original scenario.
When the team is losing the stupidity coefficient in the comments increases by 200%. People trash not only the organization whom they are supposedly fans of but the writers who work hard to bring you the content on this site.
You know what the best part of watching hockey is? It doesnt affect your real life, so relax and stop acting like the rapture is happening and the end is nigh. Bad seasons happen, we have some good players and im sure the organization knows some changes are necessary, but let them worry about that.
If there were no “stupid comments” this site wouldn’t exist. Fans are unhappy, fed up even giving this team our loyalty and passion only to be treated as irrelevant. The iron curtain around communications, the lack of heart we see on the ice just makes it hard to put your emotions behind this team and organization right now. And Habs fans are nothing if not emotional.
Can we propose the NHL that we sell our team to Quebec city, so we can buy ourselves the Coyotes? (or Islanders, Panthers, like any team that’ll become available)
CLearly all GM’s around the league know PG is desperate and has his hands tied right now and that was quite evident with the Kaberle deal. BUt which of the following trades woulg everyone be most open to if it arises. Remember each deal will have its downfalls due to PG’s hole.
a) Cammalleri/Diaz and 2nd for D Brown/Jarret Stoll
b) Weber/A Kost for Brassard
c) Gill for 4th round pick at trade deadline
d) Cammy for Malone
e) Kaberle and 3rd round pick for Spacek
a) Dustin Brown is the Kings captain and most versatile player. He’s also signed at an unbelievably reasonable contract number. Keep dreaming.
b) Jackets wouldn’t take Kaberle and a 2nd for Brassard. So they won’t be taking Kostitsyn and Weber.
c) Gill is worth more than a 4th to a playoff bound team. Funny as that may seem.
d) No way Tampa does it.
i like all those trades and hope they happen including the kaberle deal. I’m sure we could get Malone for a player draft pick type deal tampa is playing on our level. Wonder if we can trade coaches…. heck even though in that Alaskan towel boy we have….
We are now drafting 7th. Of the teams below us I can only see Tampa and Edmonton overtaking us, meaning we could end up 4th, giving us a shot at any of the top 5 picks.
Should we consider trading that pick now, when it is potentially worth quite a lot?
(Bear with me.)
I’m thinking Ryan Suter or Shea Weber, assuming Nashville decide they can’t keep them.
Say Suter for our 1st and 2nd picks?
Or Weber for that plus Pacioretty?
(And please no one come up with an alternate trade where we offer them our four worst and most overpaid players… you know like Gomez, Weber and Moen for Weber – that sort of stuff.)
Or how about we move Plekanec or Cammalleri for a 1st and 3rd round pick ala Ottawa with Mike Fisher.(or both)
Move one of them to a team that isn’t built to last over the course of the season and put ourselves in position to take two of the top 5 picks in this coming draft.
I would be offering these players to Winnipeg with them moving to the West next season.
Sure if someone is daft enough to go for that.
Nashville’s one of the best run organizations in the league and they went for that last season with Mike Fisher.
Phoenix, Winnipeg and Calgary would be my targets.(Calgary would be out for Cammalleri obviously).
Maybe they’re not so well run?
One playoff series win in ten years. They got hosed on the Mike Fisher deal. They got hosed by Brian Burke.
How about Columbus? I would guess their GM needs to win games ASAP.
I say they’re well run because of their organizational structure. They also got hosed in the Forsberg deal, but they keep winning anyway.
They need the playoffs and can’t afford Suter and Weber despite Poile’s declaration that they can.
I would be after one of them like you say. Thing is, they can’t afford Cammalleri and don’t need Plekanec. It would have to be something great, young and cheap. Which is the opposite of what we should be trading right now.
if we make any trades with Nashville (that are any bit realistic) we should be bringing back some habs bloodlines if you know what i mean
I say throw everything we can at Shea Weber and sign him for the rest of his playing days. He is exactly what we need. He is the type of consistant/immediate impact/leadership/talent/superstar we need to kick our club in the ass.
Give them Cammy, a 1st and 2nd round pick (assuming he would sign long term)
I’m so tired of us signing mostly unproven, upper mid range FA’s, we need a bonified superstar to build on.
Shea Weber is that player.
Well, they surely won’t take Cammy at $6M since they are letting Weber go because they can’t afford him.
That’s why I said #1, #2, and MaxPac.
Fact is I assume they will part with Suter before Weber so we may all be dreaming here. I think we all agree that we need that immediate long term spark that we have not had in decades.
I guess everyone on here still thinks Tampa will make it because they have the great Guy Boucher.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
If it’s Nashville. Offer them AK + Weber straight up for Suter. Shea Weber will be signed by the Preds. He will get stupid money, handcuffing the Preds for years. 😉
So you people think PG is sitting in his office making trades and signing players by himself. Just to save his job. Think ..No GM makes a move without consulting with a ton of people. He is just the one who finally pulls the trigger. So you had better fire more than him.
PG hasn’t really made any bad trades.
The problem this year is our top players Cammy, Gomez, Gionta, PK, Markov are not producing.
None of that is Gauthier’s fault.
The Kaberle trade isn’t bad. The Nokia trade is neutral.
Gauthier can be blamed for three things: not assuring us an NHL defence in the off-season; signing Budaj thus ensuring that Price gets overworked; firing JM for no reason and with no plan for his longterm successor.
As a die hard, non wagon jumping fan, for close to 50 years I felt physically sick to my stomach to read about the Nationalists planning to protest on January 7th. I really understand why fans in other NHL cities think Habs fans are just a bunch of whiners. All I want is to have the best team possible, coached by the best coach available. I could care less if he spoke Japanese. Anyone who feels differently is not what I would consider a Habs fan. I feel so sorry for Randy Cunneyworth. His dream finally comes true, and look what he gets for it. Shame on the those “fans”.
Why do these protesters reflect on the Montreal Canadiens or on us fans?
You’re right, but who is getting the exposure? The die hards who support this team year in year out regardless of the outcome? Or the small bunch of hard core nationalists who are making this a political issue? You don’t think this is getting media coverage across North America? The true fan’s voice is nowhere to be heard.
Part of being a Habs fan is having to accept that because of the minority of idiotic fans who do stupid (deleted) like this, or boo a National Anthem, or boo our own players, etc…etc…, the general public thinks that all fans are idiots like the few. It is something I have learned to unfortunately accept.
I have too, but I have also learned to respect that Habs fans are universally disliked and even ridiculed by fans of every other team. And that hurts.
Not that I want to be lumped in with Nationalists of any stripe, but could it be possible that the reason you “could care less if he spoke Japanese” is due to the fact that in the 50 years that you’ve been a fan the coach has always spoke your language?
Is it really that crazy an idea that the Coach of the Habs should on some level be bilingual? Its a job requirement in so many other areas of Canadian life. You want the best coach possible – does Randy Cunnyworth really fit that criteria?
Why, exactly, should a coach be bilingual when even the 3 French Canadian players all say it’s not an issue, and that all practices are run in English. If he had to be bilingual for the players, he’d be better off speaking Russian than French. And why, pray tell, does this apply to the Canadiens only? Never heard this about the Expos or Alouettes or Impact. And while the coachs spoke “my language”, where are the French speaking civic leaders when it came time to actually put their money where their mouths were when this team was for sale? Or when the Nordiques were for sale? They were nowhere. If you to effect change then change comes from within, not through the media. Can you tell me the last time someone who spoke “your language” actually owned this team? Don’t worry, I know the answer.
From the same group’s website (http://quebecfrancais.org/):
“On nous informait que Claude Noël, entraineur des Jets de Winnipeg et Pascal Vincent, son adjoint, deux Québécois pur sucre et bilingues, avaient été interdits par leurs patrons de commenter “en français” la nomination de l’entraineur unilingue Conneyworth chez le Canadiens.”
LOL they automatically assume Claude Noël is a Québécois by his name!
Also notice they only make “campaigns” against more serious language issues on their site, while actually organizing a real protest against non-serious things like the Habs! Shows how gutless they are, even in the eyes of real Nationalists.
Those planning the rally are nationalist idiots whose time is long past. They may or may not be Hab fans.
I believe the coach should be bilingual. Pretty much every job that deals with the public in Montreal means you need French, too. Cunneyworth, like it or not, is a very public figure.
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