Video: No Cammalleri yet, Markov ruled out for October

Ryan Miller

Sabres goalie Ryan Miller pauses before this morning’s pregame skate at the Bell Centre.
Stubbs video capture

The Canadiens hope to improve on their 1-2-1 record against the always tough Buffalo Sabres at the Bell Centre tonight, and they’ll have to beat goalie Ryan Miller, 19-8-0-5 lifetime against the Habs, to do it.

Michael Cammalleri did not skate with his team this morning in Brossard; he won’t be back before Saturday, having badly cut his leg nine days ago in Winnipeg.

And more puzzling news on the Andrei Markov front: the defenceman will remain in Florida for the rest of the week, continuing off-ice work as his rehabilitation continues, and see his doctor again at week’s end. Jacques Martin said today that it’s out of the question that Markov will return to action this month.

The Sabres lines, as they skated this morning at the Bell Centre:

Vanek-Adam-Pominville
Gerbe-Roy-Stafford
Leino-Ennis-Boyes
McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta

184 Comments

  1. HardHabits says:

    Wrong thread

  2. SmartDog says:

    I’ve gotta say, if there’s one non-Canadian team I’d like to see with the cup (or at least play for it) it’s the Sabres. Small market, a lot of their players fly under the radar, but they do a great job with development, always seem to ice a good team no matter who they lose in the off-season (and what a list that is), and Ruff and Miller are both guys whose reward is overdue.

    Go Habs. But after this game – go Sabres!

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  3. HardHabits says:

    JM doesn’t ruin the prospects. He ruins the injured players.

  4. piter says:

    Hey fellow Habinites, I read an article on the TSN site earlier today, actually, it was more of an interview with Price. He said he takes responsibility for 3 of the goals he thought he should of had last game. He said he left the five hole open and has been working with the goalie coach to correct it. My question is why would he have to “work on it”? Shouldn’t he already have it?

    • SmartDog says:

      There’s always something to work on at this level. Shooters start to hit a certain spot (like they did with his glove for awhile), you need to adapt. Price has a way of “filling the net” and good movement, and both of these things can open space on the 5-hole. So maybe shooters are seeing that as a vulnerability and have been targeting it. So now he has to adapt to that. Or maybe he was just blowing smoke for the media (and other teams) to think about. One thing’s for sure – Price isn’t dumb.

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      • newbrunswick troy says:

        i couldn,t agree any more, and as a matter of fact, the sabres may just become my secret team to route for ….as the habs once again like every year scramble to get things in order.
        It seems this team is always trying to regroup from some disaster or other…..the year they come out of the gates confident and playing above 500 hockey and also don,t have that xmas melt down…well thats the year i will finally have true faith!!

  5. JohnBellyful says:

    The sun has gone down and that can only mean one thing: the nighttime posters are out, and that’s not a good thing. According to some people.
    Guys, we need to elevate our game, start putting those daytime “pukes” to shame. More in-depth analysis, more wit, more reasoned comment. I didn’t say it would be easy but the line has been drawn. Are we going to answer the bell or turtle?
    I, for one, am going to put up a fight. I’m going to take copious notes during tonight’s game, reference a bunch of game stats, mine historical data, make a few phone calls, call in some favours, dig through some old clippings, and not go to the washroom as much, to produce a definitive account of tonight’s action, along with a series of insights as to the long-term implications of the game’s outcome. All by 9:47 p.m.
    Anything the day-timers will have to say tomorrow will seem like old news.

    — ” Quot homines tot sententiae.” –

  6. Anti JM says:

    it wont be this year, unless of course they completely underachieve. Having said that, Martin is NOT the guy for this teams athletes. These guys were built to fly. Aside from gill, who is a transitional but loved guy for us, this team going forward will be fast offensive and deep. With pricey on the backend, and with guys like soobie, diaz and bealieu, moving the puck up to patches, desharnais, leblanc, kristo, bourneval….we need a coach that is modern, alive, emotional, forward thinking and innovative(sound like boucher to you?) ….There happen to be a lot of good out of work coaches to be had these days who could be good interim guys..and certainly better than JM for a variety of reasons.

    I still cant believe we let boucher get away…would he come back next year? does he have an out in tampa? would he? would we offer?

  7. HabsFanMTL says:

    expecting ryan white to be back around same time as cammi??? after the surgery he just had? i doubt it! cause cammi will be back by this weekend

  8. Stephen York says:

    As much as I am a fan of the Habs’ speedy, skilled players (Plek being my fave), they are (still) woefully lacking in size and toughness.

    Markov is (was?) one of the premiere defensemen in the league, and has contributed much to the organization. I am concerned by how long his recovery from his second blown out knee is taking. When he eventually returns, will he be the same player? Will he come back for 5 games and get injured again?

    Instead of signing Markov for 3 years @ $17.5 M, why didn’t they sign Wisniewski for basically the same money (Wizz: 6 years @ $33 M with Columbus)? Wizz is younger, bigger, tougher and has a right-handed cannon of a shot from the point. Not to mention the fact that he stands up for his teammates, and will fight anyone in doing so. He IS a bit of a psycho, but given the fact that there currently no Hab who is capable of standing up to the bullies of the league, that’s a GOOD thing.

    I honestly hope that when Markov finally gets back, he proves me wrong…

    Don’t mess with the Habs – Travis Moen on patrol!

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Wisniewski is the exact same height as Markov and has a knee that has been operated on 3x for his ACL. He’s had one season his career above 30 points and is maybe, maybe half as defensive aware as Andrei Markov. Aside from 2007-08 as well, his fight card is rather bare as well.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • Stephen York says:

        All points well taken, SeriousFan09.

        What about the tangible and intangible toughness aspect of the game? Do you deny that it’s an essential component in today’s NHL, and that the Habs are sorely lacking in that area? Look at how we were manhandled by the Bruins in the playoffs last year, and by Philly the year before.

        I’m tired of seeing our players getting kicked around by pretty much every team in the league. Aren’t you?

        Don’t mess with the Habs – Travis Moen on patrol!

        • Mark C says:

          “Look at how we were manhandled by the Bruins in the playoffs last year, and by Philly the year before.”

          Wisniewski’s ridiculous fight with a scrub in game 2 was one of the biggest reasons Montreal lost that series.

          • Stephen York says:

            Why can’t anyone answer my questions regarding the toughness (or lack thereof) of the Habs? I think it is an urgent and legitimate concern.

            Are you saying the Habs haven’t been manhandled and physically disrespected by the etire league?

            As far as your comment goes, are you referring to the Hnidy fight (in which Hnidy effectively cancelled out a pending Bruin power play by instigating), in the game in which the Habs WON?
            I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Please elaborate.

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          • Mark C says:

            Wiz got hurt in the fight, later he even missed a game and his overall effectiveness was greatly diminished. A healthy Wiz for games 3-7 could have easily been the difference.

          • HardHabits says:

            Wiz should have not fought I agree because he took himself out of the picture, but who’s fault is that? Not his. It is the fault of management for skating a team that can’t fight its way out of a paper bag and forcing Wiz into a role he shouldn’t have had to take.

            As far as his value, it is easily argued that Wiz’ grittiness along with his offensive abilities makes him a viable alternative to Markov, if not a better alternative altogether.

            Just because Wiz came back and is OK is no reason to assume that Markov is going to heal as well. Markov had the same injury to the same place twice. The 2nd time obviously before the 1st injury had fully healed. I think Markov should stay out the whole season and come back only if the Habs make the play-offs and only if his knee is better than it was before the operation(s). If not write him off the books this year and let’s see if he can make the team at training camp next season.

        • AK_PK_Usay says:

          Last year we did not lose to the Bs cos of their physique.

          Anyway, winning 1 cup every 30 years is average, so im not panicking anytime soon.

  9. Sal says:

    Letting M. Streit go, after he and Markov backed th best PP in the NHL, was amoung BGs largest blunders. That was a deadly combo, the likes have which has not been seen since in Habville. BGs “no contract talks during the season phillosophy” was a disaster. He probably cold have been signed for much less, if he wasn’t such a stubborn ass!

    Sal from the Hammer

    • Stephen York says:

      Yeah, I’ve been bitching about the Streit affair since they let him go…he’s captain in Long Island now, right?

      Don’t mess with the Habs – Travis Moen on patrol!

    • habsnyc says:

      yes the no contract talks during the season philosophy was disastrous. but if you blame bg for letting streit go, you have to give him credit for not signing komisarek to a huge contract.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • Stephen York says:

        Amen to that.
        Komi is a disaster. And to think, they were grooming him to be the next captain…yeesh.

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    • zak says:

      His 5 year plan was to blow up the team every year for 5 years.

  10. SmartDog says:

    Coupla things:

    1. MARKOV. So Markov is off the books (cap space) while he sits right? So when it comes down to it, his being injured costs the Molsons, not the Habs (cap). So in this sense the signing was good – as long as when he DOES play he’s strong and they guy is I think good enough that even a slightly lesser Markov is going to be a huge boost. Plus – how much more cap space do we have if Marky comes back say, end of November? 1.5-2 more?

    2. MARTIN. Could Martin be fired this year if the team under-performs? I say yes. I think there has to be acknowledgement in upper circles that the failure of many young players in the Habs system (several of whom have thrived in more supportive pastures), leads back to Martin, and a poor or lukewarm performance this year would also suggest he (or his system) isn’t giving this team the whatever it needs to win. Not saying he WILL get fired. But if the Habs are looking doubtful for the playoffs a month from now, I believe Marty could be reassigned.

    3. OUR D, OUR SEASON. Call me crazy. But I think that if the stars align just slightly, the Habs could start slow but be the turn-around team of this season. We have a lot of young guys, especially on D, who are getting used to the system and should be stronger by mid-season. Guys like Cole and Patches have different reasons to need a bit of time to find their feet. Cami and White should come back about the same time and both bring something the Habs need more of. If Markov also comes back mid-season that will give another boost to the Habs. There’s reason to think a slow start could be overcome, especially if we continue to score goals.

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    • Say Ash says:

      You’ve gone way too long without a comment on Gomez.

    • HardHabits says:

      1. Habs need to pretend Markov doesn’t exist and stop relying on the “when he gets back we’ll be better” mantra. Markov’s return could be a hindrance for so many reasons. Here’s one. He comes back. Plays great. Then gets injured again. How helpful would that be?

      2. Martin should not be fired. If the Habs tank at least they’ll get a decent draft pick. Let’s not rake another coach over the coals. I prefer that it be Martin who gets the infamous record. We’re not winning the Cup this year anyways. Not with a revamped and inexperienced D. Not when the team can really only roll 3 lines. Price and Subban have to play lights out and error free just for this depleted and wet behind the ears line-up to maintain a .500 record and with that scenario chances are the two studs are not ready for a leadership role AKA carrying the team on their collective backs just yet.

      3. Better to come in at 8th when at the deadline you were 12th than to come in at 8th when at the deadline you were 4th. In view of my concerns I still think the Habs have a dark horse wild card scenario in them and could possibly maybe if they play their cards right and all the stars align and Price has a play-offs for the ages, who knows, maybe they could you know, make anything happen!!

      It would be nice to be a top 5 or a top 10 team more than once every 20 years rather than always have an excuse for coming close but having no cigar all the time.

    • Sal says:

      All three points are well said. Every team has a few, “what if this, or, what if that” senarios. The big thing regarding the Habs is that the “what ifs” are regarding potential of additions, as opposed to dealing with is already there. Additions like, Diaz, Emellin, Desharnias, Patches, White are just more potential. Every team deals with potentials. The Markv senario cannot be anything but positive, “IF” he is healthy. So I hope he takes his time and gets it right! Therefore, I concurr with your assessment, that, as the season progresses, the Habs potential/momentum, gets better and better.

      Sal from the Hammer

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      1. I’m fine with the Markov situation. He comes back, the team will be better and we could really use him to mentor the young defencemen, especially PK but also help Emelin transition and give lessons to Weber and Diaz about being a puck-moving defencemen in the NHL. Few people read the ice as well as he does and he is a master of picking his spots to create offence, the young guys could really benefit from his knowledge.

      2. I don’t think so, relieved at the end of the season maybe but beyond a 15-game losing streak I don’t see it. As I have said before, who replaces him? If the team does have a strict French-only policy on this, I don’t see our troubles solved by Michel Therrien nor do I think Clement Jodoin in Hamilton is going to get tossed to the wolves. If it’s not, what? Get Muller out of the AHL, go through the rolodex of sacked NHL coachs?

      3. The D will grow with experience certainly, Yemelin just needs more game-time to deliver more of what we consistently need, a punishing defensive body to clear the net. It will be rocky but if Markov is back in November, it will help a lot to keep the rookies out of the matchup situations where they are out of their depth.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • HabsFanMTL says:

      white? did he not just have surgery for a groin? they said he was out indefinately. doesn’t that mean a very long long time

  11. SmartDog says:

    Shanahan on Letang suspension:
    “In spite of the fact that Letang is looking at Burmistrov in the numbers he finishes his check hard and with authority and fails to minimize the check.”

    I get this – I think it’s the right call. You don’t pound a guy in the numbers on the boards. PERIOD. I think Shanahan is drawing new lines and that’s what we’ve needed.

    But I still don’t get the non-suspended hit on Campoli. If you’re holding players responsible for dangerous unnecessary hits, the Campoli hit is worse than the Letang hit by a mile. I’ll give Shanahan a mulligan on just that one — but if the Habs take another un-suspended bad hit, Shanahan won’t get my support at the next GM meeting.

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  12. Goochhab says:

    I agreed with the Markov signing when it was done, but now that the timetable keeps getting pushed back, I can only hope that when he comes back, that he plays healthy and stays healthy. We could sure use him right now…we might be pulling a Mara out of moth balls again…

    “I can’t really hear what Jeremy says because I got my 2 stanley cup rings plugging my ears”

  13. hope tonight is a positive and we finally get on track…go habs

  14. HardHabits says:

    Is Markov still a Hab? His only significant contribution to the team in the last two years has been salary cap relief.

  15. Letang is suspended for the next two games, so Pittsburgh’s 3 best players are out on Thursday unless Malkin gets better. No excuses there, must win.

    http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

  16. eric says:

    Gomez…7.5 mil
    cole……..6.0 mil
    Markov…5.75 mil

    Total pts …2 ouch!!!

  17. Anti JM says:

    The only problem the habs have is in my opinion, as you know, JM. With the right coach and a few smart rotations to the lineup over the next 2-3 yrs and we’re in business.

    Habs D in a few years could be lights out…

    PK, (markov), emelin, diaz, beaulieu, tinordi, bennet, dietz, pateryn, nash, stejkal(big hitter), ellis, nygren….

    forwards look to be promising…nothing lights out per se, but, a lot of very good talent with excellent attitude and leadership skills. Im not sure we need to have a star….of course it would be nice, but we might have a spread out above average attack thats really hard to deal with……with guys like gallager, bourneval, leblanc and kristo, avtsin, berger, dumont, it could be real exciting. mix in a few vets along with patches and desharnais, a few tough elements(schultz and conboy) and it could get realllly interesting.

    • ManApart says:

      That’s far from a lights out D-squad. There’s not a sure thing in the whole group, outside of PK.

      • Anti JM says:

        We disagree manapart-

        I think PK is guaranteed, and I think beaulieu is a star in the making. The rest have interesting possibilities. Emelin has shown me signs of becoming a potentially above average shut down dman with some offensive instincts, diaz has much upside, Bennet has interesting potential, as does dietz and tinordi… the others offer excellent depth potential…weber, nash, pateryn, stejkal, ellis.. etc…

    • Ron in Ottawa says:

      i agree JM must go. the only advantage i see in a real slow start, perhaps over the fist 15-20 games, would be that the molsons get fed up and boot JM out the door. it has happened before- remember 94 and Jacques Demers.

  18. HabsFanMTL says:

    we should have gotten rid of Markov this past summer damm it. I knew this would happen again. Gauthier is such an idiot GM signing this guy for 3 more years yet only giving Jorges 1 year. Look at what Markov did couple years back when we needed him to make the playoffs he didn’t play against Philly then 48 hours later he was playing for his country Russia in the worlds. He has hung around long enuf being paid millions to do absolutely nothing and what if he does come back in november or december? that knee is so tender he had a year to get over it , won’t take much before he’s out of the line up again. let this Guy go !!!!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      So when you say let this guy go, do you mean lets just put him on waivers?

      Seriously, it has been frustrating to no end watching this guy have bad luck and perhaps some poor decisions by doctors/team/himself on rushing back. But we have already pushed our chips into pot here, may as well wait out this rehab and see how he performs before we start calling him a Dog.

      If he comes back mid November and is close to his old self, suddenly we are a much stronger team.

      Biggest challenge we have is getting to Mid or Late November without him.

    • Mats Naslund says:

      Do you know how many teams out there were PRAYING that we wouldn’t re-sign Markov? I know its hard to be patient, but if you need help – go back and look at the player stats for the Habs for a stretch between 2004-2008 to know why writing off Markov is just about the dumbest thing Habs fans can do.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      I have had just about enuf of you.
      enuf is enuf.
      enuf said.

      Ok, I think that is enuf.

      p.s. Enough, if your scratching your head about my comment

    • Tony McLean says:

      We could’ve and should’ve had a Wiz! Souray as a #6/PP specialist would’ve helped too. And why the love-hate come here-go away Three Stooges thing with Mara? Bizarre.

      CAREER PLAYOFFS W-L
      Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11

    • pocketrocket169 says:

      Stop harping on Markov he has shown his commitment and loyalty to this organization in the past and will continue to do so.As good as PK is imangine how he could be with a healthy Markov.I believe that Marky has had some bad luck with injuries but he wil bounce back to become a dominant force for the habs.He has definetely not sat around collecting his salary it takes a lot of determination to continue to train and rehab in the hope that you can keep playing the game that you love.

      THE ROCKET’S DARK GLARE

  19. Feraco says:

    Reguardless of when / if Markov comes back…my concern is what type of condition will he be in when he does return?

    He has missed, I will say, 2 seasons, injuries ended both. He missed training camp and the start of the season.

    Will he be back to .8 points a game?
    Will he log 21+ minutes of ice?
    Will he be battling in the corners?

    Perhaps a 1 month stint in the AHL to get his timing up?

    Molson Ex mon ami

  20. Habfan10912 says:

    Anybody else notice that us day time posters are much nicer and funnier then the evening ones?

    @jimlaplante

    • Say Ash says:

      It’s because we haven’t lost the game yet.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I find the daytime posters of the “pencil pushing” variety who are content with a small team and gauge the team’s success off the Internet or by solely looking at stats…

      People at night have just finished watching the game and have a better analysis.

      • Psycho29 says:

        Plus there’s the alcohol factor at night. :-)

        Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

      • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        Right, people who disagree with Hobie don’t watch the games.

        http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Ok Andrew, you’re the biggest goof around. Did I say that? I’ve checked some of your grade school quality blogs and they’re complete garbage.

          How many people follow you on Twitter, 4?

          Go boil an egg ya dope!

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Or they’re having emotional overreactions to it, that NEVER happens around here.

        Or Post-Blowout Stress Disorder! It is characterized by a terrible loss by one’s team causing one to think nothing will ever be right, EVER AGAIN. Or even a not so-bad loss, like the “Bostdown Beatdown” where Boston proved they were tough, by beating up Roman Hamrlik, Jaro Spacek and Tom Pyatt, easily the 3 toughest pugilists the team’s ever featured.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • shiram says:

          Can still feel the repercussions of that game in the commentariat, and they won by 2 goals only.

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

        • eric says:

          It’s too bad we didn’t have someone to answer back

        • Tony McLean says:

          When *was* the last cup and how many has Sakless Koivette won? Anyone who’s satisfied with the last nearly 20 years should have a total breakdown and become a Leafs fan. Cheech and Chong logic.

          CAREER PLAYOFFS W-L
          Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Whatever little personality disorder has you hating Saku Koivu, get over it you sad little man. Koivu was a model of a true competitor, has sterling credentials in International Hockey and did more for the city of Montreal in his philantrophic efforts than you could manage in ten lifetimes.

            Try to stay on point in a conversation as well. I was mocking Hansen’s notion that post-game reactions are perfectly rational and well thought-out and anything pre-game is pom-pom waving by the weak-willed fans.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

      • Yup, nothing worse than people who resort to “stats” to make “arguments” based in “reality.” If I want to know how good a team is, I don’t count up their points, or see if they’re scoring more goals than their opponents — I put them on a bathroom scale!

        Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

      • Chorske says:

        As a “pencil pusher” who also occasionally resorts to “pie charts” to support my position on almost everything (hey, fish gotta swim, scientists gotta scientize), I can’t help but be overwhelmed how completely full of crap this post is, Hobie. I can’t quantify how much, but qualitatively, under “crap”, I would rate this post a “+”: crap present.

        You know why I rarely post during games? Because I have a kid and I’d rather play with him and chill out watching the game with him, than deal with brutes and knobs who can’t see past a player’s most recent shift, or who use every minor flub to feed their confirmatory bias.

        The daytime discussions are almost always more measured. It’s when the better posters come out to play. So blllblblblblbbblbblb.

    • shiram says:

      I’m basically never on here at night, so I can’t tell.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

  21. veryhabby says:

    People this Markov new is GOOD news. He went down to get a check up with his doctor. No secret he had water form in his knee. this was a set back in his rehab. So he sees his Dr. Dr says ok stay off it a few more days then lets see if it’s good enough for you to start skating again. WOOOHOO, IT IS. And he is starting to skate again. this is good news. Now after a few days he will be rechecked again by his DR (thus no reason to fly back and forth). This appt will be huge. If we hear he has water again, or if we hear he’s been told to not skate again for a few days…that’s bad news. If Markov gets on a plane and comes back and keeps skating…that’s great news. I will wait to freak out until his next appointment.

    BTW, Gorges said he had water in his knee this summer…he’s fine now.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I like your thinking, and having watched many episodes of Trapper John M.D. I concur.
      +10

    • Tony McLean says:

      What does Dr. Recchi say?

      CAREER PLAYOFFS W-L
      Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11

  22. adamkennelly says:

    Buf has a good looking 4th line – no?

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    Based on all the questions about this team and the overall concern being shown from so many. I am wondering if we shouldn’t reach out to John Edward the Medium.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward

    Perhaps he could give us a reading on the team and save all of us from speculating. If everyone throws in a twenty I’m thinking that covers it. If we are a bit tight, we can settle on Kreskin and get his read on everything.

  24. JF says:

    Hardly anyone seems to be worried about Price’s poor performances (guess we have enough to worry about), but I admit I’m a bit concerned. The season is very long, and it’s normal that every goaltender will struggle a bit here and there; but the Habs have played four games, and in two of them Price has been not just subpar, but downright bad. What is going on here? He can’t be tired already. I would expect him to be sharp and focused for at least the first month.

    And what is going on with Markov? We’re told that his rehab is progressing to schedule, yet after his meeting with his doctor last week, we’re given the “good” news that he won’t need more surgery and will start skating next week. Then we learn that he’s meeting his doctor again. Why? If he’s ready to start skating again (we were told he had stopped only when he was in Florida, and we still don’t know why), why does he need to see the doctor? And why stay in Florida the whole week?

    I’m beginning to fear the worst. It’s starting to look as though signing Markov might turn out to have been a monumental blunder. And while we’re at it, I don’t like the Gorges situation either. I was shocked that he was only given one year. It seemed like an insult. The one-year offer and the apparent lack of confidence the Habs have in him might well play into his decision next summer about whether to return if he receives offers elsewhere.

    • Jordio-oh says:

      You were right in the first sentence: we already have enough to be worried about.

      Price will be fine. Some of his goals were all on him, but our defence has been atrocious and giving up all kinds of clear opportunities on goal. He’s not tired and his focus seems where i should be. Luongo has a 3.60 and a.871 and he’s going to bounce back because he’s a good goaltender. So is Price.

      The more I read your post, the more I’m hoping you’re being sarcastic. Its on par with the chicken little.

      • JF says:

        I’m not being sarcastic. At the moment I’m only mildly concerned about Price, but another poor performance and my concern won’t be mild. As for the Markov situation, it’s at the very least puzzling. Gauthier said during training camp that he would miss the first few games, but if he’s seeing his doctor and not skating, there has to be some problem we haven’t been told about. And I disliked the Gorges contract right from the start. I would have liked him to be chosen captain last year and receive a long-term contract.

    • J_P says:

      Im not worried about Price, im worried about our teams porous defense, which is odd considering we have a “defense only” coach.

      Has Price been lights out and out of this world? No, but our D definitely hasnt helped one bit.

  25. habsfan0 says:

    Markov’s physical injuries have healed. At this point,it’s solely a psychological issue.

  26. fun police says:

    Markov is waiting to make his return until the habsinsedout summit in november.

  27. Kooch7800 says:

    I have a feeling Markov won’ t back till January

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  29. Bripro says:

    Shiram, we happen to offer the very best there is. Actually, it’s in Mercier, at Gregoire’s. They used to be in Saint Martine, but had such demand from Chateauguayers, that they moved closer.

  30. adam76 says:

    I said it before and will say it again. Putting that much cap space into a 33 year old Dman who has missed more games then he has played the last two seasons was a mistake. Bad enough if they signed him for a year, but for two??

    Horrible deal.

    @teamadam76

  31. HABZ24 says:

    it seems like crosby has started a new trend thats catching on. not rushing back after injury. collecting millions laying on a beach in florida while ur team loses game after game is wrong, put a brace on it and earn ur money and help ur team markov.

    GO HABS GO

  32. Bripro says:

    Miller looks pretty casual. I hope the Habs don’t aim for the 5-hole with him. It’s always closed for business.
    Just watching the video…what a way to make a living.
    If I wasn’t a serial killer in a previous life, I’d probably be doing the same thing.
    Somehow, God had decided that I’d be better at running a business that stays afloat from day to day.

  33. Habfan10912 says:

    Friends, I am worried that something is going on with Markov.

    @jimlaplante

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have so many different responses for that, but I think you are being serious so I will refrain from my usual childish repsonse.

      I think Andrei is probably trying to do some rehab nearby Dr. Andrews (world’s leading doctor at this stuff) and is just being really cautious this time.

      I am not convinced this is bad news as much as extreme caution to finally get this rehab done right.

  34. Propwash says:

    Markov is gonna have lots of gas in the tank once he gets back. He will be rusty at first, but once he settles down, it’ll help the team in a big way.

    _____________________
    Dooooooooooooooomed!™

  35. shiram says:

    Hate that Kaleta guy.

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

  36. HabinBurlington says:

    I have found that copious amounts of Jagrmeister leads to a wonderful detox the following few days. Give it a try with Brother Andrei and say hi to him for me.

    Cheers and Thanks for taking good care of him.

  37. Mats Naslund says:

    He’s missed 2 weeks (4 games) so far. If he plays 65 games this year would you still be angry? I would gladly take Markov for that length.

  38. habsfan0 says:

    Where do you think I got my inside info from?


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