Sabres goalie Ryan Miller pauses before this morning’s pregame skate at the Bell Centre.
Stubbs video capture
The Canadiens hope to improve on their 1-2-1 record against the always tough Buffalo Sabres at the Bell Centre tonight, and they’ll have to beat goalie Ryan Miller, 19-8-0-5 lifetime against the Habs, to do it.
Michael Cammalleri did not skate with his team this morning in Brossard; he won’t be back before Saturday, having badly cut his leg nine days ago in Winnipeg.
And more puzzling news on the Andrei Markov front: the defenceman will remain in Florida for the rest of the week, continuing off-ice work as his rehabilitation continues, and see his doctor again at week’s end. Jacques Martin said today that it’s out of the question that Markov will return to action this month.
The Sabres lines, as they skated this morning at the Bell Centre:
Vanek-Adam-Pominville
Gerbe-Roy-Stafford
Leino-Ennis-Boyes
McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta
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I’ve gotta say, if there’s one non-Canadian team I’d like to see with the cup (or at least play for it) it’s the Sabres. Small market, a lot of their players fly under the radar, but they do a great job with development, always seem to ice a good team no matter who they lose in the off-season (and what a list that is), and Ruff and Miller are both guys whose reward is overdue.
Go Habs. But after this game – go Sabres!
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JM doesn’t ruin the prospects. He ruins the injured players.
Hey fellow Habinites, I read an article on the TSN site earlier today, actually, it was more of an interview with Price. He said he takes responsibility for 3 of the goals he thought he should of had last game. He said he left the five hole open and has been working with the goalie coach to correct it. My question is why would he have to “work on it”? Shouldn’t he already have it?
There’s always something to work on at this level. Shooters start to hit a certain spot (like they did with his glove for awhile), you need to adapt. Price has a way of “filling the net” and good movement, and both of these things can open space on the 5-hole. So maybe shooters are seeing that as a vulnerability and have been targeting it. So now he has to adapt to that. Or maybe he was just blowing smoke for the media (and other teams) to think about. One thing’s for sure – Price isn’t dumb.
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i couldn,t agree any more, and as a matter of fact, the sabres may just become my secret team to route for ….as the habs once again like every year scramble to get things in order.
It seems this team is always trying to regroup from some disaster or other…..the year they come out of the gates confident and playing above 500 hockey and also don,t have that xmas melt down…well thats the year i will finally have true faith!!
The sun has gone down and that can only mean one thing: the nighttime posters are out, and that’s not a good thing. According to some people.
Guys, we need to elevate our game, start putting those daytime “pukes” to shame. More in-depth analysis, more wit, more reasoned comment. I didn’t say it would be easy but the line has been drawn. Are we going to answer the bell or turtle?
I, for one, am going to put up a fight. I’m going to take copious notes during tonight’s game, reference a bunch of game stats, mine historical data, make a few phone calls, call in some favours, dig through some old clippings, and not go to the washroom as much, to produce a definitive account of tonight’s action, along with a series of insights as to the long-term implications of the game’s outcome. All by 9:47 p.m.
Anything the day-timers will have to say tomorrow will seem like old news.
– ” Quot homines tot sententiae.” –
I always thought you and I were 24/7 Spyz.
I think my mind just got screwed up. I was expecting somethin’ like Secret Agent Man.
Geez, I don’t know if I’m going to be able to write up that game report now.
If I just give the score, will that be enough?
I saw them live in the 80′s. My head is still ringing.
My band opened for them at the China Club in Chicago back in ’91 or ’92 (’93 maybe)? Great band.
it wont be this year, unless of course they completely underachieve. Having said that, Martin is NOT the guy for this teams athletes. These guys were built to fly. Aside from gill, who is a transitional but loved guy for us, this team going forward will be fast offensive and deep. With pricey on the backend, and with guys like soobie, diaz and bealieu, moving the puck up to patches, desharnais, leblanc, kristo, bourneval….we need a coach that is modern, alive, emotional, forward thinking and innovative(sound like boucher to you?) ….There happen to be a lot of good out of work coaches to be had these days who could be good interim guys..and certainly better than JM for a variety of reasons.
I still cant believe we let boucher get away…would he come back next year? does he have an out in tampa? would he? would we offer?
Have you seen what’s going on in Tampa?
Maybe Tampa will fire him if their record continues like it is.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
Do you fire the coach when the goalie’s GAA is 6.87??
If JM can take credit for the habs goalies, Boucher can take the blame for TB sorry bunch…
expecting ryan white to be back around same time as cammi??? after the surgery he just had? i doubt it! cause cammi will be back by this weekend
As much as I am a fan of the Habs’ speedy, skilled players (Plek being my fave), they are (still) woefully lacking in size and toughness.
Markov is (was?) one of the premiere defensemen in the league, and has contributed much to the organization. I am concerned by how long his recovery from his second blown out knee is taking. When he eventually returns, will he be the same player? Will he come back for 5 games and get injured again?
Instead of signing Markov for 3 years @ $17.5 M, why didn’t they sign Wisniewski for basically the same money (Wizz: 6 years @ $33 M with Columbus)? Wizz is younger, bigger, tougher and has a right-handed cannon of a shot from the point. Not to mention the fact that he stands up for his teammates, and will fight anyone in doing so. He IS a bit of a psycho, but given the fact that there currently no Hab who is capable of standing up to the bullies of the league, that’s a GOOD thing.
I honestly hope that when Markov finally gets back, he proves me wrong…
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Wisniewski is the exact same height as Markov and has a knee that has been operated on 3x for his ACL. He’s had one season his career above 30 points and is maybe, maybe half as defensive aware as Andrei Markov. Aside from 2007-08 as well, his fight card is rather bare as well.
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All points well taken, SeriousFan09.
What about the tangible and intangible toughness aspect of the game? Do you deny that it’s an essential component in today’s NHL, and that the Habs are sorely lacking in that area? Look at how we were manhandled by the Bruins in the playoffs last year, and by Philly the year before.
I’m tired of seeing our players getting kicked around by pretty much every team in the league. Aren’t you?
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“Look at how we were manhandled by the Bruins in the playoffs last year, and by Philly the year before.”
Wisniewski’s ridiculous fight with a scrub in game 2 was one of the biggest reasons Montreal lost that series.
Why can’t anyone answer my questions regarding the toughness (or lack thereof) of the Habs? I think it is an urgent and legitimate concern.
Are you saying the Habs haven’t been manhandled and physically disrespected by the etire league?
As far as your comment goes, are you referring to the Hnidy fight (in which Hnidy effectively cancelled out a pending Bruin power play by instigating), in the game in which the Habs WON?
I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Please elaborate.
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Wiz got hurt in the fight, later he even missed a game and his overall effectiveness was greatly diminished. A healthy Wiz for games 3-7 could have easily been the difference.
Wiz should have not fought I agree because he took himself out of the picture, but who’s fault is that? Not his. It is the fault of management for skating a team that can’t fight its way out of a paper bag and forcing Wiz into a role he shouldn’t have had to take.
As far as his value, it is easily argued that Wiz’ grittiness along with his offensive abilities makes him a viable alternative to Markov, if not a better alternative altogether.
Just because Wiz came back and is OK is no reason to assume that Markov is going to heal as well. Markov had the same injury to the same place twice. The 2nd time obviously before the 1st injury had fully healed. I think Markov should stay out the whole season and come back only if the Habs make the play-offs and only if his knee is better than it was before the operation(s). If not write him off the books this year and let’s see if he can make the team at training camp next season.
Last year we did not lose to the Bs cos of their physique.
Anyway, winning 1 cup every 30 years is average, so im not panicking anytime soon.
Letting M. Streit go, after he and Markov backed th best PP in the NHL, was amoung BGs largest blunders. That was a deadly combo, the likes have which has not been seen since in Habville. BGs “no contract talks during the season phillosophy” was a disaster. He probably cold have been signed for much less, if he wasn’t such a stubborn ass!
Sal from the Hammer
Yeah, I’ve been bitching about the Streit affair since they let him go…he’s captain in Long Island now, right?
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yes the no contract talks during the season philosophy was disastrous. but if you blame bg for letting streit go, you have to give him credit for not signing komisarek to a huge contract.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Amen to that.
Komi is a disaster. And to think, they were grooming him to be the next captain…yeesh.
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His 5 year plan was to blow up the team every year for 5 years.
Coupla things:
1. MARKOV. So Markov is off the books (cap space) while he sits right? So when it comes down to it, his being injured costs the Molsons, not the Habs (cap). So in this sense the signing was good – as long as when he DOES play he’s strong and they guy is I think good enough that even a slightly lesser Markov is going to be a huge boost. Plus – how much more cap space do we have if Marky comes back say, end of November? 1.5-2 more?
2. MARTIN. Could Martin be fired this year if the team under-performs? I say yes. I think there has to be acknowledgement in upper circles that the failure of many young players in the Habs system (several of whom have thrived in more supportive pastures), leads back to Martin, and a poor or lukewarm performance this year would also suggest he (or his system) isn’t giving this team the whatever it needs to win. Not saying he WILL get fired. But if the Habs are looking doubtful for the playoffs a month from now, I believe Marty could be reassigned.
3. OUR D, OUR SEASON. Call me crazy. But I think that if the stars align just slightly, the Habs could start slow but be the turn-around team of this season. We have a lot of young guys, especially on D, who are getting used to the system and should be stronger by mid-season. Guys like Cole and Patches have different reasons to need a bit of time to find their feet. Cami and White should come back about the same time and both bring something the Habs need more of. If Markov also comes back mid-season that will give another boost to the Habs. There’s reason to think a slow start could be overcome, especially if we continue to score goals.
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You’ve gone way too long without a comment on Gomez.
1. Habs need to pretend Markov doesn’t exist and stop relying on the “when he gets back we’ll be better” mantra. Markov’s return could be a hindrance for so many reasons. Here’s one. He comes back. Plays great. Then gets injured again. How helpful would that be?
2. Martin should not be fired. If the Habs tank at least they’ll get a decent draft pick. Let’s not rake another coach over the coals. I prefer that it be Martin who gets the infamous record. We’re not winning the Cup this year anyways. Not with a revamped and inexperienced D. Not when the team can really only roll 3 lines. Price and Subban have to play lights out and error free just for this depleted and wet behind the ears line-up to maintain a .500 record and with that scenario chances are the two studs are not ready for a leadership role AKA carrying the team on their collective backs just yet.
3. Better to come in at 8th when at the deadline you were 12th than to come in at 8th when at the deadline you were 4th. In view of my concerns I still think the Habs have a dark horse wild card scenario in them and could possibly maybe if they play their cards right and all the stars align and Price has a play-offs for the ages, who knows, maybe they could you know, make anything happen!!
It would be nice to be a top 5 or a top 10 team more than once every 20 years rather than always have an excuse for coming close but having no cigar all the time.
All three points are well said. Every team has a few, “what if this, or, what if that” senarios. The big thing regarding the Habs is that the “what ifs” are regarding potential of additions, as opposed to dealing with is already there. Additions like, Diaz, Emellin, Desharnias, Patches, White are just more potential. Every team deals with potentials. The Markv senario cannot be anything but positive, “IF” he is healthy. So I hope he takes his time and gets it right! Therefore, I concurr with your assessment, that, as the season progresses, the Habs potential/momentum, gets better and better.
Sal from the Hammer
1. I’m fine with the Markov situation. He comes back, the team will be better and we could really use him to mentor the young defencemen, especially PK but also help Emelin transition and give lessons to Weber and Diaz about being a puck-moving defencemen in the NHL. Few people read the ice as well as he does and he is a master of picking his spots to create offence, the young guys could really benefit from his knowledge.
2. I don’t think so, relieved at the end of the season maybe but beyond a 15-game losing streak I don’t see it. As I have said before, who replaces him? If the team does have a strict French-only policy on this, I don’t see our troubles solved by Michel Therrien nor do I think Clement Jodoin in Hamilton is going to get tossed to the wolves. If it’s not, what? Get Muller out of the AHL, go through the rolodex of sacked NHL coachs?
3. The D will grow with experience certainly, Yemelin just needs more game-time to deliver more of what we consistently need, a punishing defensive body to clear the net. It will be rocky but if Markov is back in November, it will help a lot to keep the rookies out of the matchup situations where they are out of their depth.
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white? did he not just have surgery for a groin? they said he was out indefinately. doesn’t that mean a very long long time
Shanahan on Letang suspension:
“In spite of the fact that Letang is looking at Burmistrov in the numbers he finishes his check hard and with authority and fails to minimize the check.”
I get this – I think it’s the right call. You don’t pound a guy in the numbers on the boards. PERIOD. I think Shanahan is drawing new lines and that’s what we’ve needed.
But I still don’t get the non-suspended hit on Campoli. If you’re holding players responsible for dangerous unnecessary hits, the Campoli hit is worse than the Letang hit by a mile. I’ll give Shanahan a mulligan on just that one — but if the Habs take another un-suspended bad hit, Shanahan won’t get my support at the next GM meeting.
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I agreed with the Markov signing when it was done, but now that the timetable keeps getting pushed back, I can only hope that when he comes back, that he plays healthy and stays healthy. We could sure use him right now…we might be pulling a Mara out of moth balls again…
“I can’t really hear what Jeremy says because I got my 2 stanley cup rings plugging my ears”
hope tonight is a positive and we finally get on track…go habs
Going to be a tough game. Buffalo is much improved and have a defensive, trappy style that is always tough for Montreal. They have some forwards who are under the radar who always seem to hurt Montreal. See Ennis and Roy. Price will have to regain form and the PP must be working tonight.
Buffalo is definitively always a tough game, but I don’t think Roy classifies as under the radar. 255 points in his last 275 games. That’s a heck of a lot.
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Roy has been struggling this year with a nagging injury
Regardless, the original point still stands. Roy has more points per game versus the Habs than any other current Sabre who’s played more than 6 games.
Hardly under the radar.
Is Markov still a Hab? His only significant contribution to the team in the last two years has been salary cap relief.
Markov is the mythical saviour who will deliver this team from mediocrity!
I only hope PG can convince some Stanley Cup hopeful that that is the case and trade him for an ace prospect or two.
Letang is suspended for the next two games, so Pittsburgh’s 3 best players are out on Thursday unless Malkin gets better. No excuses there, must win.
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History will be made…
Hahahaha oh Fleury….
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I dont’ agree with that suspension at all. That was just a typical boarding call. last time I checked boarding is a 2 minute penalty not a suspension.
But it is legal to try and take someone’s head off brutal
I actually agree, and Letang was set for the check for a longer time than Malone was when he hit Campoli. This one is pretty inconsistent. I’m guessing the Penguins aren’t pleased.
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This is the Suspension cuz you still employ Cooke rule.
Gomez…7.5 mil
cole……..6.0 mil
Markov…5.75 mil
Total pts …2 ouch!!!
Cole is being paid 9 million this season, if you count the signing bonus.
Good thing those don’t count against the cap.
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double ouch
What? Cole is $4.5/ year. Where are you guys getting these numbers?
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plus (while gomez at any rate is too much it seems). if you are going to factor in cash upfront then you have to look at gomez getting paid less than his salary cap hit.
Capgeek.
Cole is making 6 million this year, but he has a cap hit of 4.5 millions.
He has a signing bonus of 3 millions this year.
Next year he makes 4 millions, and 2 millions signing bonus.
After it’s 4 millions each year for 2 years.
No trade clause too I think.
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That’s what it averages out to be.
The only problem the habs have is in my opinion, as you know, JM. With the right coach and a few smart rotations to the lineup over the next 2-3 yrs and we’re in business.
Habs D in a few years could be lights out…
PK, (markov), emelin, diaz, beaulieu, tinordi, bennet, dietz, pateryn, nash, stejkal(big hitter), ellis, nygren….
forwards look to be promising…nothing lights out per se, but, a lot of very good talent with excellent attitude and leadership skills. Im not sure we need to have a star….of course it would be nice, but we might have a spread out above average attack thats really hard to deal with……with guys like gallager, bourneval, leblanc and kristo, avtsin, berger, dumont, it could be real exciting. mix in a few vets along with patches and desharnais, a few tough elements(schultz and conboy) and it could get realllly interesting.
That’s far from a lights out D-squad. There’s not a sure thing in the whole group, outside of PK.
We disagree manapart-
I think PK is guaranteed, and I think beaulieu is a star in the making. The rest have interesting possibilities. Emelin has shown me signs of becoming a potentially above average shut down dman with some offensive instincts, diaz has much upside, Bennet has interesting potential, as does dietz and tinordi… the others offer excellent depth potential…weber, nash, pateryn, stejkal, ellis.. etc…
i agree JM must go. the only advantage i see in a real slow start, perhaps over the fist 15-20 games, would be that the molsons get fed up and boot JM out the door. it has happened before- remember 94 and Jacques Demers.
Firing Demers turned out to be a disaster.
JM will not be fired this year. Gauthier will never throw his friend under the bus as Gainey did to Carbo. The only way to get fire JM is to fire PG. Now, if they miss the playoffs that is a real possibility.
Kill two birds with one stone
If it weren’t for Lyle Odeline popping hat tricks in the fall of ’93 Demers wouldn’t have even lasted 20 games. The writing was on the wall, no one was surprised.
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- Sean Bonjovi
we should have gotten rid of Markov this past summer damm it. I knew this would happen again. Gauthier is such an idiot GM signing this guy for 3 more years yet only giving Jorges 1 year. Look at what Markov did couple years back when we needed him to make the playoffs he didn’t play against Philly then 48 hours later he was playing for his country Russia in the worlds. He has hung around long enuf being paid millions to do absolutely nothing and what if he does come back in november or december? that knee is so tender he had a year to get over it , won’t take much before he’s out of the line up again. let this Guy go !!!!!
So when you say let this guy go, do you mean lets just put him on waivers?
Seriously, it has been frustrating to no end watching this guy have bad luck and perhaps some poor decisions by doctors/team/himself on rushing back. But we have already pushed our chips into pot here, may as well wait out this rehab and see how he performs before we start calling him a Dog.
If he comes back mid November and is close to his old self, suddenly we are a much stronger team.
Biggest challenge we have is getting to Mid or Late November without him.
can’t agree more. and what was the alternative everybody’s b****in about? wiz for 7million?
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Do you know how many teams out there were PRAYING that we wouldn’t re-sign Markov? I know its hard to be patient, but if you need help – go back and look at the player stats for the Habs for a stretch between 2004-2008 to know why writing off Markov is just about the dumbest thing Habs fans can do.
I have had just about enuf of you.
enuf is enuf.
enuf said.
Ok, I think that is enuf.
p.s. Enough, if your scratching your head about my comment
We could’ve and should’ve had a Wiz! Souray as a #6/PP specialist would’ve helped too. And why the love-hate come here-go away Three Stooges thing with Mara? Bizarre.
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Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11
Love your new signature Tony!
So after next June, at the age of 24, he’ll be 6th overall behind Roy,Dryden, Plante, Worsley, and Durnan. That’s impressive.
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really? wiz and souray? how is souray any better than markov? one slap shot and his wrist shatters… i’ll take markov thank you
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Stop harping on Markov he has shown his commitment and loyalty to this organization in the past and will continue to do so.As good as PK is imangine how he could be with a healthy Markov.I believe that Marky has had some bad luck with injuries but he wil bounce back to become a dominant force for the habs.He has definetely not sat around collecting his salary it takes a lot of determination to continue to train and rehab in the hope that you can keep playing the game that you love.
THE ROCKET’S DARK GLARE
Reguardless of when / if Markov comes back…my concern is what type of condition will he be in when he does return?
He has missed, I will say, 2 seasons, injuries ended both. He missed training camp and the start of the season.
Will he be back to .8 points a game?
Will he log 21+ minutes of ice?
Will he be battling in the corners?
Perhaps a 1 month stint in the AHL to get his timing up?
Molson Ex mon ami
Doubt he goes to AHL, but I’ve been wrong before.
Can only wait.
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If he goes to the AHL I am going to make it my mission to try to get his autograph here in hamilton
I truly wish you the best of luck with that, would be an awesome prize. Try to get it on Dogs jersey!
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Hey man I’ll just leap over the boards, they aren’t very tall….lol
He can only go to the AHL for a single week or 3 games, and even then only if he agrees to it.
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I thought conditioning stints were two weeks, but you’re right about Markov having to agree to it…
Someone posted the rules on here last week and it said 7 days or 3 games. Don’t quote me on it though. Either way, a month in the AHL would be a waste of Markov and the org’s time, not to mention he’d need to go through re-entry waivers and be claimed faster than anyone could blink.
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Feraco, I can guarantee you that when he does come back, he will be well rested.
lol I donno…you go from being off for 2 years to playing in ELITE hockey…I fear he is going to get…well…injured?
Molson Ex mon ami
but a well rested …injured no?
I seem to remember him looking very good when he played the 7 games last November after being off for 6 months and not having any training camp.
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Carey Price
He could be terrible. He could be amazing. Yes his knee is a worry – but so was Wisniewski’s last year. If anything, being away from the game for so long has probably saved the rest of his body some brutal wear and tear.
LOGIC ALERT!
No one knows which is why the team can’t count on it. Play like he’s not coming back and rejoice when he does
His knee is like wet newspaper, he’s done.
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Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11
Did you say that about Wisniewski after his knee surgeries?
Anybody else notice that us day time posters are much nicer and funnier then the evening ones?
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It’s because we haven’t lost the game yet.
bingo!
I find the daytime posters of the “pencil pushing” variety who are content with a small team and gauge the team’s success off the Internet or by solely looking at stats…
People at night have just finished watching the game and have a better analysis.
Plus there’s the alcohol factor at night.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
HA! you beat me too it
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Right, people who disagree with Hobie don’t watch the games.
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Ok Andrew, you’re the biggest goof around. Did I say that? I’ve checked some of your grade school quality blogs and they’re complete garbage.
How many people follow you on Twitter, 4?
Go boil an egg ya dope!
What you said is essentially that people who disagree with you look at stats and people who agree with you watch the games. It’s abundantly clear what you meant to say.
And for being complete garbage a lot of people seem to read what I write.
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You make some smart ass comment after everything I say. You’re the one who has problems with people who don’t see eye-to-eye with your fantasy version of things, not me!
All i ever see u do is nitpick peoples comments…not just mine.
I actually like pretty much everything he writes — and occasionally I even agree with it!
Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
I barely ever reply to you Hobie, but okay. You believe whatever you feel like believing, nothing has stopped you from that thus far.
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Why are you always in spats with ppl on this site? It seems like a weekly occurance now…
Or they’re having emotional overreactions to it, that NEVER happens around here.
Or Post-Blowout Stress Disorder! It is characterized by a terrible loss by one’s team causing one to think nothing will ever be right, EVER AGAIN. Or even a not so-bad loss, like the “Bostdown Beatdown” where Boston proved they were tough, by beating up Roman Hamrlik, Jaro Spacek and Tom Pyatt, easily the 3 toughest pugilists the team’s ever featured.
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Can still feel the repercussions of that game in the commentariat, and they won by 2 goals only.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
It’s too bad we didn’t have someone to answer back
When *was* the last cup and how many has Sakless Koivette won? Anyone who’s satisfied with the last nearly 20 years should have a total breakdown and become a Leafs fan. Cheech and Chong logic.
CAREER PLAYOFFS W-L
Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11
Whatever little personality disorder has you hating Saku Koivu, get over it you sad little man. Koivu was a model of a true competitor, has sterling credentials in International Hockey and did more for the city of Montreal in his philantrophic efforts than you could manage in ten lifetimes.
Try to stay on point in a conversation as well. I was mocking Hansen’s notion that post-game reactions are perfectly rational and well thought-out and anything pre-game is pom-pom waving by the weak-willed fans.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
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Yup, nothing worse than people who resort to “stats” to make “arguments” based in “reality.” If I want to know how good a team is, I don’t count up their points, or see if they’re scoring more goals than their opponents — I put them on a bathroom scale!
Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
Hahahaha +5
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How long have you guys been dating?
This is getting kinda pathetic Hobie. When someone agrees with you do people ask how long you’ve been dating them?
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As a “pencil pusher” who also occasionally resorts to “pie charts” to support my position on almost everything (hey, fish gotta swim, scientists gotta scientize), I can’t help but be overwhelmed how completely full of crap this post is, Hobie. I can’t quantify how much, but qualitatively, under “crap”, I would rate this post a “+”: crap present.
You know why I rarely post during games? Because I have a kid and I’d rather play with him and chill out watching the game with him, than deal with brutes and knobs who can’t see past a player’s most recent shift, or who use every minor flub to feed their confirmatory bias.
The daytime discussions are almost always more measured. It’s when the better posters come out to play. So blllblblblblbbblbblb.
Could you maybe express that bllblblblblblblblbblb in a pie chart?
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I’m basically never on here at night, so I can’t tell.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
And you just helped disprove his point.
Not sure if your insulting me or….
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
People this Markov new is GOOD news. He went down to get a check up with his doctor. No secret he had water form in his knee. this was a set back in his rehab. So he sees his Dr. Dr says ok stay off it a few more days then lets see if it’s good enough for you to start skating again. WOOOHOO, IT IS. And he is starting to skate again. this is good news. Now after a few days he will be rechecked again by his DR (thus no reason to fly back and forth). This appt will be huge. If we hear he has water again, or if we hear he’s been told to not skate again for a few days…that’s bad news. If Markov gets on a plane and comes back and keeps skating…that’s great news. I will wait to freak out until his next appointment.
BTW, Gorges said he had water in his knee this summer…he’s fine now.
I like your thinking, and having watched many episodes of Trapper John M.D. I concur.
+10
What does Dr. Recchi say?
CAREER PLAYOFFS W-L
Patrick Roy 151-94, Ken Dryden 80-32, Jacques Plante 71-37, Lorne Worsley 40-26, Bill Durnan 27-18, Rogatien Vachon 23-23, George Hainsworth 22-25, Jose Theodore 19-28, Gerry McNeil 17-18, Steve Penney 15-12, George Vezina 9-4, Jaroslav Halak 9-9, Michel Larocque 6-6, Ron Tugnutt 9-13, Charlie Hodge 7-8, CAREY PRICE 8-15, Cristobal Huet 6-10, Denis Herron 5-10, Jeff Hackett 3-7, Jocelyn Thibault 4-11
Buf has a good looking 4th line – no?
Good looking or smokin’ hot?
you forgot the cat call
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Based on all the questions about this team and the overall concern being shown from so many. I am wondering if we shouldn’t reach out to John Edward the Medium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward
Perhaps he could give us a reading on the team and save all of us from speculating. If everyone throws in a twenty I’m thinking that covers it. If we are a bit tight, we can settle on Kreskin and get his read on everything.
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Sorry HiB, but what a number of people on this site are clamouring for is a large, not a medium…
Hardly anyone seems to be worried about Price’s poor performances (guess we have enough to worry about), but I admit I’m a bit concerned. The season is very long, and it’s normal that every goaltender will struggle a bit here and there; but the Habs have played four games, and in two of them Price has been not just subpar, but downright bad. What is going on here? He can’t be tired already. I would expect him to be sharp and focused for at least the first month.
And what is going on with Markov? We’re told that his rehab is progressing to schedule, yet after his meeting with his doctor last week, we’re given the “good” news that he won’t need more surgery and will start skating next week. Then we learn that he’s meeting his doctor again. Why? If he’s ready to start skating again (we were told he had stopped only when he was in Florida, and we still don’t know why), why does he need to see the doctor? And why stay in Florida the whole week?
I’m beginning to fear the worst. It’s starting to look as though signing Markov might turn out to have been a monumental blunder. And while we’re at it, I don’t like the Gorges situation either. I was shocked that he was only given one year. It seemed like an insult. The one-year offer and the apparent lack of confidence the Habs have in him might well play into his decision next summer about whether to return if he receives offers elsewhere.
You were right in the first sentence: we already have enough to be worried about.
Price will be fine. Some of his goals were all on him, but our defence has been atrocious and giving up all kinds of clear opportunities on goal. He’s not tired and his focus seems where i should be. Luongo has a 3.60 and a.871 and he’s going to bounce back because he’s a good goaltender. So is Price.
The more I read your post, the more I’m hoping you’re being sarcastic. Its on par with the chicken little.
I’m not being sarcastic. At the moment I’m only mildly concerned about Price, but another poor performance and my concern won’t be mild. As for the Markov situation, it’s at the very least puzzling. Gauthier said during training camp that he would miss the first few games, but if he’s seeing his doctor and not skating, there has to be some problem we haven’t been told about. And I disliked the Gorges contract right from the start. I would have liked him to be chosen captain last year and receive a long-term contract.
Im not worried about Price, im worried about our teams porous defense, which is odd considering we have a “defense only” coach.
Has Price been lights out and out of this world? No, but our D definitely hasnt helped one bit.
Markov’s physical injuries have healed. At this point,it’s solely a psychological issue.
Thank You Dr.Recchi
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I’m no doctor,but what I say is true.
Markov is waiting to make his return until the habsinsedout summit in november.
+10
I have a feeling Markov won’ t back till January
I see what you are doing here Kooch and I like it. This is the classic Reverse Jinx, but I see you have removed any announcement of such. Well done, we should be seeing Andrei by early Nov. at this point then. Nice!
I like that, HB. Use reverse psychology to boost your expectations.
Considering he’s still not practicing, and enjoying tequilas on a Miami beach somewhere, it will be the fastest recovery in Markov history.
you got me lol
I still say mid december, kinda like an Xmas gift.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
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Shiram, we happen to offer the very best there is. Actually, it’s in Mercier, at Gregoire’s. They used to be in Saint Martine, but had such demand from Chateauguayers, that they moved closer.
Why did this not end up as a reply to yours? Bizarre…
Wish I could try it, have one for me!
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
Are you going to be at the summit?
I can bring you one, but not sure how it will hold out…
Nah I won’t, though I could try to join the Summitters at one point or another.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
You have to join us for a Guinness at least!
As I said, I could try, I don’t even know the dates, but if you all are going to a bar or something, I could make my way there, if I’m free at that time.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
Yup, I’m with Bripro, swing by for a nice pint at the least Shiram.
Give me the info when and where and I’ll try to.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
Friday, November 18th at Hurley’s pub. Downtown Mtl.
1225 Crescent.
http://www.hurleysirishpub.com/en_home.html
I said it before and will say it again. Putting that much cap space into a 33 year old Dman who has missed more games then he has played the last two seasons was a mistake. Bad enough if they signed him for a year, but for two??
Horrible deal.
@teamadam76
If your talking Markov it’s 3 years.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
Even better!!!
But he is 32 right now.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
listen – stop being factual.
Guess I should ” stop checking stats and watch the game” ;p
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
You’re going to eat your words, like you did with Price.
So true
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
Ya – Price is looking like an all star right now.
it seems like crosby has started a new trend thats catching on. not rushing back after injury. collecting millions laying on a beach in florida while ur team loses game after game is wrong, put a brace on it and earn ur money and help ur team markov.
GO HABS GO
Sure thing, Dr. HABZ24.
Stunning, the foresight you display.
+79
Sounds alot like Dr. Nick from the Simpsons to me.
Habz24, you must now start all your posts with “hello evary bady!”
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Yeah I really don’t want a d-man who can’t skate and might injure quickly. Let’s leave him out until he’s ready please
Yeah, that totally worked last time didn’t it? The smart thing to do would absolutely jeopardize the rest of his career in order to play a few weeks earlier in the season. I mean I’d rather have him at game 7 than game 89 right?
Miller looks pretty casual. I hope the Habs don’t aim for the 5-hole with him. It’s always closed for business.
Just watching the video…what a way to make a living.
If I wasn’t a serial killer in a previous life, I’d probably be doing the same thing.
Somehow, God had decided that I’d be better at running a business that stays afloat from day to day.
Friends, I am worried that something is going on with Markov.
@jimlaplante
I have so many different responses for that, but I think you are being serious so I will refrain from my usual childish repsonse.
I think Andrei is probably trying to do some rehab nearby Dr. Andrews (world’s leading doctor at this stuff) and is just being really cautious this time.
I am not convinced this is bad news as much as extreme caution to finally get this rehab done right.
Markov is gonna have lots of gas in the tank once he gets back. He will be rusty at first, but once he settles down, it’ll help the team in a big way.
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Hate that Kaleta guy.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
+1
Your avatar’s making me hungry!
I’m sure Chateauguay has a decent poutine, go out and get some!
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
kaleta is the biggest dirt bag in the NHL. He takes my number 1 most hated with Avery gone. Matt Cooke moves up to 2.
I have found that copious amounts of Jagrmeister leads to a wonderful detox the following few days. Give it a try with Brother Andrei and say hi to him for me.
Cheers and Thanks for taking good care of him.
He’s missed 2 weeks (4 games) so far. If he plays 65 games this year would you still be angry? I would gladly take Markov for that length.
Where do you think I got my inside info from?