Nine Habs practise at Wachovia

They were having fun, obviously: goalie Carey Price spars with teammate Mathieu Darche during optional practice this afternoon at Wachovia Center.
Pierre Obendrauf, Gazette

AUDIO: Jacques Martin | Gionta/Halak/Moore

The Canadiens had nine players on the ice this morning at the Wachovia Center: Glen Metropolit, Paul Mara, Ben Maxwell, Benoit Pouliot, Mathieu Darche, Jaroslav Spacek, Carey Price, Sergei Kostitsyn and Ryan O’Byrne.

Few players were in the dressing room after the skate – Metro, Darche, O’Byrne and Price.

The Canadiens and the league had Brian Gionta, Jaro Halak and Dominic Moore available for formal interviews afterward.

It was a light session on the ice: Darche took a turn wearing Price’s gloves to try to stop a shot or two, to less than stellar reviews from their owner.

The audio links here are the news of the day.


  1. Bill J says:

    The only fool is the one who keeps bringing Price up like it is a topic to discuss right now.

    The same fool who thought Halak was the goalie who won the game in the greatest comeback in history (after saying you just watched that game)

    The same fool that thought K-Hab was agreeing with your opinion about Price, meanwhile you where too blind to see K-Hab is a PRICE fan (just look at his avatar picture)


    Can’t you just enjoy the playoffs ?  Your talent is quite obviously NOT in posting on a Habs site, due to the fact you really do not know what you are talking about.

    Congrats on being a Habs fan, however if your going to try & have intelligent conversations with people about the Habs. You really should just READ the posts here on this blog, you will become informed about the team you claim to have loved for all these years.

  2. wotever says:



    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  3. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Season is not over

    We will find ways to win!

  4. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Police should tazer these dumb bums who feel the need to loot.

    I for one give permission to any store owner to shoot any fools that break in to their store

  5. Habs4ever Fan says:

    You’re a fool if you can honestly say you’d rather see Price in a pressure situation than Halak

    Price can’t handle pressure at this point in his career

    Now stop being in denial and go back to watch Studio 54

  6. Bill J says:

    LMFAO – Zing & Toucher!!



  7. Habby2CU says:

    Check out this piece I wrote back on April 13 in response to Jack Todd’s column in which he declared with 100% certainty that the Habs would get smashed by the Caps. It’s called: “Why the Montreal Canadiens will win the Stanley Cup (Or How I Learned to Hate Jack Todd in a Single Sports Column)”

    I sent it to Jack Todd himself and he dismissed it as “ridiculous.”

  8. Exit716 says:

    Remenda came home to Canada for a year or so for family reasons but has since returned to work for the Sharks.


  9. jimmy shaker says:

    #1 on the hate club list is McGuire

    #2 for me is Laviolette….I hate him almost as much as Lindsay (lindy) Ruff

    #3 Healy and Galley

    #4 Jack Edwards/Andy Brickley and Rick Jeanneret

    #5 Derek Roy, Letang and Bobby Clarke


  10. says:

    I hear ya, it’s like the same idiots who start talking about Carey Price and Jaroslav Halak.  Morons, and losers, all of them.

    They Call Me Shane

  11. mike g says:

    Yea, Doc gets pretty annoying after a while…

    Bob Cole is really struggling with idenifying players too..His age is catching up to him, and the game is passing him by like an F1 car. Even his goal-calls aren’t up to par.

    Too bad, he loves the Habs and used to be great.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  12. Habit in the west says:

    Here you go, I was never on, but I was still cheering for them, and I will continue, but I have a belief that if they play O’Byrne instead of Bergeron, it changes the element. He needs to take Danny Briere and run his head through the Boards, and that will start to cast a little doubt with Philly. He should be out there, and should have in the first game to take care of the front of the net.

  13. MontrealAtheist says:

    Yeah … and help ourselves with free booze, shoes and hockey jerseys once someone has smashed the store windows into pieces. Go Habs Go !!!

  14. coachdoug says:

    It is funny how Pierre is the mark and guys like Healy seek to be “insightful”…Friedman is my favorite since he is very neutral…I also think Kevin Weeks is good too…

    Down here in the states we are stuck with Verses and Doc Emerick…The whole verses crew has been hoping the Habs would lose each series…really bad at identifying players during the game…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  15. Habit in the west says:

    Hate Healy, love Milbury, I know he wants to punch him out. He gave him a head rub during one broadcast.

  16. Habit in the west says:

    Agreed, but who will make more of a difference out there? Is anyone really thinking that Bergeron is the right player on the point for this team against Philly?

  17. roblack says:



    Having watched the Hawks vs Sharks yesterday,I got thinking that once we get past Philly we will match up good against Chicago. Id love to see two original six teams in the finals,but Im thinking the way the Hawks jump right in and start blasting away from everywhere is just the kind of team Halak does great against. Hes the type of goalie that needs a bunch of shots early to get him involved. Corse,we would prefer the shots arnt great scoring chances,keep them to the outside,but get Jaro into the game early. I really like Price,but I have no confidence in him,I wonder if he’ll ever find his game. The Habs play with confidennce when Jaro’s got their back,last nights game excluded.

  18. pic1983 says:

    Yeah hes probably the actual WORST.  At least milbury SOMETIMES makes sense.

  19. Ayan_SB says:

    Carey Price, our new enforcer?

  20. mike g says:

    Yeah boy!

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  21. mike g says:

    Trust me when I say that Healy is the worst..

    I watch a ton of hockey, about 3 games per night. I’m familiar with all the commentators in the league. Believe me when I say that for someone who played the game, and worked for the NHLPA (even had a top position there), he’s horrible. Nashville and Phoenix commentators are easier to listen to..

    He just takes dumb/meaningless clips, and tries to prove one of his thoeries/weak/dumb points with them. Last night he was blabbing on about MTL not being able to generate any scoring chances. It was early in the 2nd period, and he showed a clip of the Habs behind the Philly net in the 1st period. You see a bit of cycling, and then the puck goes to the point. The clip stops, and he says there’s no offense from MTL. The idiot used such a terrible clip, because if he continues that clip Spacek got that puck and got a great shot on net, one of the 2 key blocker saves that Leighton made in the 1st period.

    Anyone who watched the whole game probably noticed…

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  22. TOEmastro says:

    they could lose 10-0, it’s still only counted as a single loss.


    The no-quit habs will rebound, you’ll see

  23. Paulin98C says:

    Let me put this straight to everyone here.

    HABS have NOT won more than 3 games in a row all season long (1-2 exceptions maybe?). They have played a little better than .500 all season long… and even through round 1 and 2. They played great and awesome games and then showed did not show up for the next game… its been like this all season long. Now that we reach conference finals the fans are expectiung simply too much from them. You don’t need to win 5-6 in a row in the playoff… you just have to win 4 before your opponent does. This team will bounce back and keep playing .500 throughout and thats fine with me cause thats all you need to win a cup.. play better than .500 without losing 3-4 in a row. I BELIEVE!!! HABS are prepared to play all of the possible 28 games. As long as you keep winning game 7, we are in business.


    My two cents.

  24. mike g says:

    Well, what do you wanna do? The season’s over, the ride was nice, but the Flyers are gonna kill us. I think we were very lucky to win 2 rounds….

    ….but ummmm, ………….got any tickets for game 3?

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  25. coachdoug says:

    Milbury and JR gave Healy a run for his money during the Olympics…I used to love JR’s sound bites as a player but what a disaster as a commentator…Milbury is NBC’s Cherry…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  26. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Its unbelievable.

    We lose one game and all these bandwagon jumpers (including Jack Todd) have bailed.

    Makes me sick. These are the same fools who are calling me and asking me for extra pairs of tickets because they want to go to a game….but never called me for a game duing the year.

    Habs in 6 or 7!

  27. mike g says:

    Does anyone else hate Glen Healy as much as I do?

    He has to be the worst sports personality on tv. Worse that Benoit Brunet, sadly. It’s crazy, everything the guy says is either stupidity or his version of “Hi, I’m Pierre McGuire”. He always makes idiotic comments, shows uselss clips to prove his stupidity, and constantly shows us why TSN threw him in the garbage can…

    During last series vs the Pens, he showed both teams coming onto the ice. Pittsburgh was running and jumped onto the ice. The Habs came out walking, and stepped normally onto the ice. In the 2nd period, he starts blabbing about why those clips proved why PIT won that game and how they were so well prepared. Funny that he waited for the 2nd period to say it, cuz MTL scored 1st in the game and led 1-0. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that at the Mellon Arena, the visitors entrance onto the ice is smaller than a closet door. The Habs players had to practically turn sideways to even fit through it…

    He’s just a total douchebag, and since the Habs are on CBC we have to live with his disgusting and horrible analysis. He makes me dream of McGuire, even though Pierre is a little creepy….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  28. PeterStone says:

    didnt hear it .. but, he is a Montrealer, who did play for the Flyers .. so maybe he forgot he stopped playing ?

  29. Drive_For_25 says:

    So let’s just forget about that game last night and get pumped for tomorrow’s.  You can try and analyze it all you want but the fact was we just didn’t have it and got beat.  The only point worth making is that MAB is the worst player to ever wear a Canadiens sweater and should not play AT ALL in this series.  Your basically making O’Byrne feel absolutely useless if we don’t play him against a physical team like Philly, which is no good for his confidence.  I say if we don’t see MAB again for the rest of the year, however long that is, it will be a good thing for us all.  Come on JM, make the right call!!!


    GO  HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. PeterStone says:

    the brain surgeons know that PP stats dont count in Plus Minus

  31. Habit in the west says:

    Hey, sorry to all, I crapped on Les Habitants chances in the first 2 rounds, only to have a goaltender save the day. I have a question to start some discussion. Why is Ryan O’Byrne not playing? Especially against Philly, you give him the assignment to rough up all players in front of the net that RUN Halak. Tell me, are you going to give that assignment to Bergeron? Here’s an interesting stat. O’Byrne is a +1, doesn’t play on the PP, and brings a size, physical, and a shot blocking element to the game. Bergeron is a -10, has 5 points, so it actually leaves him bringing a -5 to his game since the playoffs started. My question is, why didn’t the brain surgeons figure this out before this series started? Does anyone think they’ll figure this out in time?

  32. Caballero says:

    Naw, we will just destroy our own city if we win a game.

  33. mike g says:

    I don’t wanna hurt their fans, they’re just regular people like us…

    I wanna see someone throw Danny Briere a beer, straight in his face.

    That’s worth 10$ to see at the Bell, not the price of the beer.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  34. pic1983 says:

    Based on everything ive read today, and I have read A LOT today (slow day at work, what can i say), you’d swear philadelphia has already eliminated us and punched their ticket to the finals…

    I love how even after knocking off Washington and Pittsburgh, these habs still cant get any respect.

  35. Kalcon says:

    Did anyone else hear Gary Galley’s comment during the 1st period right after Leighton made a blocker save on a deflection off Hartnell’s stick?

    He said, “After scoring that first goal, we really needed a big save like that.”

    Did I misunderstand the context in which he said it or was it as I thought…a subconscious slip of the tongue which showed his affection for the Flyers?

    It sounded similar to when Don Cherry said “we got ’em this time” during a Bruins-Habs’ playoff game early in his TV career.

  36. coachdoug says:

    I bet Warrior wishes he would change too…If he was previously a “sniper” with that awesome wrist shot he is now using a paint ball gun…At least Kovalev could always hit the target…AK46 is now part of the cast of “Lost” and “The Invisible Man” (The Belarusian version)…

    “The ‘System’ will not stop until it owns Lord Stanley’s Cup…All hail the System!”

  37. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Nice to see the boys having fun!

    Especially Carey Price.

    They need to be limber for tomorrows big game!

  38. zooziff says:

    Part of what Jack Todd said was true. After all, was it not Bob Gainey that traded away Huet and handed over the keys to Carey Price? We all know how invaluable that playoff sacrifice (ahem), experience turned out.

    How many shots has the team been blocking per game? How many saves has Halak made on average per game? When any team gives up this many opportunities they are getting outworked by the other club – end of story.

    Gainey took some chances and assembled a club that was more resilient than the last group (Koivu getting an exemption because he was the poster child of courage and resilience).

    The Habs can still win this series. Halak must play like he did the previous two series, and the team must capitalize on its chances.

  39. pmaraw says:

    Surely we will welcome the Flyers with open arms when they come to Montreal.  Surely we wont take any retribution on the Media’s vans, surely we won’t sink to their level!  There’s no doubt in my mind we wont toss beer on their players or spit on 10 year olds.  Lastly I know we won’t be pouring beer into the engine of their charter flight.

  40. Curtis O Habs says:

    Gomez needs to finish a scoring chance.  Marc-Andre Bergeron needs to hold the zone more often on the power play.  Ryan O`Bynrne needs to dress.  P.K. Subban needs some shifts up front with Gomez and Gionta.  POOliot needs to sit.  SK74 needs to dress.

  41. habs001 says:

    we have a forward line up that unless the opposition goalie gives up bad goals or we get flukey ones we score 1-2 goals a game…we get no goals from the d…unless this changes we are really a 90-94 point team and if we played any of the 29 teams in the playoff it would be a 6-7 game series…

  42. Ian Cobb says:

    Nothing more to be said, he won’t be around in the fall’!

  43. Curtis O Habs says:

    4.)Gomez shoes no finish a breakaway.

  44. Bugs says:

    At least these guys are smilin.

    There were no smiles when Gill and Pronger fought.

    Take my word for it; I was there. And I still can’t move.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  45. Fansincebirth says:

    I’m pretty sure the Habs knew they were in a suckfest last night for whatever reason but no sense dwelling on the game. Learn from it and take it to them tomorrow night.

    Good to see the mood being a little light in the practise…..that’s how we were able to beat the Caps and Pens by not taking themselves too seriously. We were, afterall, nothing but speedbumps and such….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  46. JustSomeguy says:

    Todd was OK when he worked on the city desk.

    But, somewhere along the way, he started to build up the persona of being The Guy Who Tells It Like It Is and Won’t Kiss Butt. After that, it started going downhill to the point where he sounds like some crotchety geezer who’s been there done that and doesn’t like what he sees.

    Such a massive chip on his shoulder. Perhaps he sepnds so much time mocking and belittling because his attempts at becoming a literary giant have been stymied by his inability to get that novel he’s been working on for years … out the door?

  47. lenny says:

    Pouliot had such promise started out great and now is nowhere to be found

  48. zozotheclown says:

    I would have wanted them to have a full practice as well, btu I guess at this point in the season, what more can you learn from practice anyway. You learn way more in the video room, so hopefully they get some ideas on how to take Philly down in there.

  49. Shublips says:

    Well at least there are still smiles at practice.  I am very curious to see what adjustments JM makes for game 2.

    The Habs need to make major changes if they are going to compete in this series and I’m not sure what changes they can make.  Getting their speed engaged would be a good start.  Putting O’Byrne in the lineup would be another.

    What do you all think the Habs need to do in order to be able to compete better against the Flyers?

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  50. Fansincebirth says:

    I have to agree with ya.

    MAB just scares the hell out of me when he touches the puck in our end. If there is any sign of pressure, he panics and either the closest person gets the puck (he becomes sweater blind) or he ices the puck.

    Pouliot, I have absolutely no idea where the hell he’s gone to. I had a huge man crush on him after he came over. Now, not so much.

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  51. cautiousoptimist says:

    Stubbs, Boone and Hickey are too professional to publicly rag on a colleague.  But you’re right: not all Gazette sports writers are created equal…

    1. – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  52. Storm Man says:

    One would think unless the boys are eating philly cheesesteaks at Geno’s I would understand that stuff is yummy.

  53. lenny says:

    u would think that all players would be on the isce today….I know I would be aftger last night

  54. lenny says:

    never liked him never will, can’t understand how he is allowed to write that dripple. Atleast he didnt have his heros and zeros of the week…

  55. Storm Man says:

    Hmmm only 8 guys on the ice, I guess JM has no need to change the game plan for Tuesday. 

  56. lenny says:

    I like MAB but he needs to sit. I would understand keeping him in if he was scoring a ton of goals on the PP, but he isnt. my 2 cents. sit MAB and Pouliot. Put in Obyrne and yes SK…why? Why not? SK has something to prove and may be goos for some timely goals….

  57. petemoss says:

    Holy crap!

    Does ANYONE enjoy Jack Todd’s articles???
    All that man does is spew out garbage. From writing in detail how ugly Scott Gomez is, or continuing to rip on Gainey long after the man is gone.
    I would love to know what Stubbs or Hickey thought of his MMQB!
    Such unbelievable garbage….

  58. cautiousoptimist says:

    Hey all, haven’t chimed in for a while, but I didn’t think Philly played like a bunch of superstars out there.  The Habs beat themselves with 1) stupid penalties, 2) awful high-risk passes that resulted in giveaways nearly every time, and 3) a decision — as opposed to an inability — to clear the net.  They didn’t even try to get orange shirts out of the crease.

    If they were going to lose, I’m glad they got blown out and humiliated, as opposed to losing 2-1.  Hopefully this’ll light a fire under them.

    1. – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  59. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    I don’t know what you guys have been smoking, but down at the bottom of this page a few of you have suggested that SK will be in the lineup??

    I have a better chance of getting a call from the habs – and I’m 45 and not a great skater.

  60. mike g says:

    Why isn’t anyone hatin’ on AK46 today?

    Once again, he took a selfish penalty, whiffed on a totally open net, and was invisible the rest of the time..

    It really seems like every game, if he’s decides he’s going to have an impact, it’s either for a negative reason or to give us false hope and totally botch a great scoring chance….

    Seriously AK, change those Warrior sticks. You’ve used them all year, and every game you whiff on at least one great scoring chance. That’s not even counting when you miss passes, etc….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  61. Ian Cobb says:

    3 Days After Birth, The Diaper Has To be Changed

    New parents are all the same. They get caught up in the emotion of
    the birth of being a new TEAM and no one remembered to change the
    diaper for 3 days. It was a mess.!!!

    From the first, a penalty to
    Gomez leading to the first goal, it was a complete mess until the last
    whistle blew. For 60 minutes we forgot how we got to the finals.

    forgot to play as a team and everyone started to play as an individual
    star. Were they all reading there hero press clippings and forgot they
    were in the WAR for Stanley? Did they forget that they have won nothing
    yet but the fans hearts.?

    This team needed and received a good old fashion *** wiping.

    large lesson was taught to them last night. This is the Stanley Cup
    that we are competing for. The most revered prize in all of the
    sporting world, to be won by the team who knows how to play extra
    effort and sacrifice style every second of the 60 minutes. Yes, we took
    a horrific beating. Not by the other team but by our own attitude and
    poor play.

    I just know that this was exactly what needed to
    happen to get our heads out of the clouds. This game was a great wake
    up call for those that have not been this far before.

    night things will be very much different from this group of players. We
    all know what this team is made of. Nothing is ever given at this time
    of the season, it is earned by leaving it all out on the ice every

    Here endeth the lesson, and it was well understood for Tuesday night.

    I have no doubt that we will be coming home with a split and a clean diaper!


  62. habsman-itoba says:

    SK?  I thought he was serving as chef’s apprentice for the Bulldogs.

  63. habsoul says:

    Unless he does something really stupid, Sergei will in the lineup tomorrow night along with O’Byrne. At this point, he’s got to provide more offense than Pouliot.

    And the kid better play like his hair’s on fire. 


    Every time Scott Hartnell scores a goal, a stripper breaks a heel.

  64. LatheDog says:

    I agree that SK will be in tomorrow and Pouliot will be scratched.  What happened to Pouliot’s game anyway?  He was showing so much promise earlier in the season.

  65. G-Man says:

    SK will not be in the lineup and will be moved, probably on draft day. He’s played his last shift as a Canadien.

  66. Rudy says:

    I’m really surprised at such a small turnout.

  67. thepriceiswrong says:

    I understand part of the problem last night was fatigue…. but man if I was the coach I would have these guys on the ice working out the kinks.

  68. tdrmoss84 says:

    We need O’B out there on tuesday, and when is Mara gonna be healthy again?  I mean he’s only been out since 3/5?  Jaro will bounce back! 

  69. jimmy shaker says:

    Sorry people, how could I have forgotten?  The boys don’t play good on the weekends!  We’ve basically sucked on weekend games, unless they are afternoon games.  So by the looks of it, we should probably be able to run the table now in this series.  Tuesday: big equalling of the series.  Thursday:  We go ahead.  Sat:  Although I didn’t want the afternoon game, it may be a blessing in disguise.  We take that game and go up 3-1, and probably close it out on Monday night in Philly with great moxie and retribution for the few punk puke fans that pulled that shite last night!


  70. Mr.Hazard says:

    Next game, throw in O’B, throw in Mara, throw in Nasty-SK74. Get down and get gritty. Even our small forwards are capable of that. And no using your stick (Gomez)! Get Lappy to be a bee in everyone’s ear, a speck in their eye, etc.

    Philly is confident, but Leighton is unproven and inexperienced. Crash him. Take a penalty if you have to.

    “We didn’t give up and we are not giving up.” – Jaroslav Halak

  71. mrhabby says:

    love to see mara, ob and sk in there. need some size and nastiness.,,every time we play the flyers it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth..i think there laughing at us..hate them you to boob clarke.

  72. Caballero says:

    I somewhat agree, but the players have to understand that they are not going to beat Philly at their own game. It’s all about using speed to make them take hooking penalties or what have you. You aren’t going to shut Philly up by intimidating them. That is not going to happen ever. You can however score some goals. You win the game by scoring  goals, and Lapierre and Gomez’s penalties were ridiculous. They aren’t scaring anyone anyway. What the hell man, what point are they making? We can hit you too? We aren’t intimidated by you? This is BS man, get in there use the speed, capitalize on mistakes, test this goalie. Make them play our game.

  73. ManApart says:

    At this point, even Latendresse is sounding like a great alternative to Pouliot. Now I think we all understand why MInny was so anxious to drop a #4 pick, who is 22 years old.

  74. SLONCOLD says:

    do you think pouliot  is hurt? i mean he takes a lil bump and he’s on his butt . seems to have a hard time staying on his skates

  75. MontrealAtheist says:

    What a nice surprise for Carey Price to show up at an optional practice!

  76. punkster says:

    How come?


  77. Bill J says:

    at least your negative post is not surprising.

    Should I bother to mention (for those reading your gibberish) that Price has NOT missed an optional in a VERY VERY long time…. In fact HE was the one calling SK74 out for slacking off at practise.

    Montreal Atheist indeed. you wear your name well.

  78. sprague cleghorn says:

    Only to someone not paying attention.

  79. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    great: RDS is reporting that laperriere has been given the green light.

  80. Shublips says:

    Yep, heard that too.  That’s not good news for Les Boys since the Flyers really don’t seem to need any help in the brutish player department.

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  81. mike g says:

    Sometimes your heart influences your head.

    In Lapierriere’s case, this is clearly hapenning. The last time he blocked a shot with his face, he returned to that same game after losing 7 teeth a recieving over 60 stiches in his mouth. Just to give you an idea of the craziness, he returned to that game in the 3rd period and the Flyers were down 5-2. They still lost 5-2.

    Now, he does the same but gets a brain contusion. Takes a few weeks off, and he’s back. His career was in danger, he’s 36 years old, and his family told him to retire (he’s great friends with a buddy of mine). The brain injury should have been enough to keep him out till seasons end for sure, but his heart is once again deciding instead of his head.

    He’s 36, battled like a warrior on and off the ice his whole career for a chance to win the Cup. He feels like this could be the closest he’ll ever get again, so he’s once again willing to sacrifice himself and his future health for it…

    Not sure it’s smart, but he knows what he wants; the Cup.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  82. HNS says:

    Like I said when Pitt got back Jordan Staahl, it’s not going to help even if the Flyers get  Jesus Christ in their lineup. Habs in 7!

  83. jbroderi says:


    If that big dope is all we have to worry about, we’re in great shape.  He’ll just take a stupid penalty or something.  You can’t have him, carcillo, hartnell and pronger on one team and expect to beat a team that shows composure.  If the habs can stay out of the box and get the old pp going, we can take this thing, but i have a feeling we’re in for another long one either way.

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  84. gohabzzzz says:

    oh great, the habs are having fun. THAT IS NEVER A GOOD SIGN WITH THEM!!


  85. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    Is it too much to ask that we have at least a few forwards who play with an “edge” in their game?

    I remember “back in the day” guys like Mario tremblay, Doug Risbourough, were brought up young, maybe 19 or 20, and they played 4th line minutes with an edge in their games.

  86. Chorske says:

    Um, Moen? Lapierre, on his good nights?

    You really looking back on Mario Tremblay with fondness?

  87. mike g says:

    His name is Ryan White, problem is he’s in Hamilton now and we can’t call him up.

    I bet the Habs wish they recalled him instead of Maxwell. I guarantee you if White would be with the Habs now, he’d be playing instead of PouPou or Metro.

    Watch for him next year, he’s great.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  88. Chorske says:

    Can someone explain to me how O’Byrne is in the doghouse again?

    I haven’t seen anything obvious.

  89. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’s not in the doghouse. Just the 7th defenceman.


  90. HabFanSince72 says:

    That pass to Yvon Lambert for the OT goal against the Bruins is all Tremblay need have done for someone to think about him fondly.

    Doesn’t make up for running Roy out of town I guess.


  91. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    as a player Tremblay was excellent. hard working and fearless.

  92. mrhabby says:

    i think flyers can play our game to..they have speed and finish. agree we cannot play there game. i was just looking and adding some more beef.

  93. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Ugly game last night & hopefully we’ll have a better effort tomorrow. Having said that, is anyone in agreement with me that the Flyers pose the biggest challenge for the Habs and it will be extremely tough beating them? I know we took care of the Caps & Penguins but this team seems to have it all, size, skill & speed. I hope I’m wrong and I’ll continue to support & cheer knowing full well that even if we lose, this is the proudest I’ve been of this team in my 35 years of being a fan.

    Another question I have, why is Ryan O’Byrne not playing? Are MAB & Hamerlik better? Plus why do we need to have Hamerlik on the PP, he’s useless.

  94. HNS says:

    Can not agree. Washington and Pittsburgh. If you would have made that statement before round one you would have been jettisoned out of here.

  95. jimmy shaker says:

    Hammers on the PP because he’s got the best shot on the team.  He is a shoot first, pass second guy, who always get’s his point shots through to the net.  He almost better than Gonchar and Lidstrom at getting pucks to the net from the point.  His shot is hard, quick and rarely blocked.  It’s a nice and low shot that never gets off the ice, so it is hard for opponents to block it.  He’s quick and mobile out there at the blueline and rarely gets caught flat footed allowing an opponent a shorthanded breakaway goal.  He’s simply awesome, that guy is!


  96. JF says:

    Unfortunately I have to agree with you.  The Flyers are a much-better balanced team than either Washington or Pittsburgh.  Their defence is better (the top four at least), and their scoring is spread out.  If Leighton can do the job in nets – and there’s nothing to say he can’t, he’s never really had a chance in the NHL – they’ll be very tough to beat.  And they’ll have additional forces in the shape of Ian Laperrière, who has been cleared to play, and Jeff Carter, who has started skating.  We’ll have to be a lot more disciplined, a lot more focused, and a lot more intense than we were last night.  Also, I think we got drawn into their kind of game, trying to match up to them physically, instead of playing our own game, relying on speed, strong defence, and opportunism.  How good they looked yesterday has me worried; if we lose tomorrow night, I’ll panic.

    As for O’Byrne, I’ve heard he’ll probably be in tomorrow.  If I were JM, I think I’d sit Bergeron.  The remote chance that he’ll score on the powerplay does not seem worth his vulnerability on defence.











  97. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Token opposition fan chiming in.  Despite last night’s results, I’m still expecting a tough, long series.  I saw enough of Washington and Pittsburgh this year, along with both Flyers-Habs reg season games in Philly (one of which was PK’s debut, if I remember correctly) to think otherwise.  I get the feeling that layoffs in the playoffs aren’t worth the rest they provide after watching the Flyers in G1 against the B’s and that ‘effort’ last night from the Habs.  That was probably the best game the Flyers could throw at you and the worst the Habs could come up with.  Each team steals one on the road and this goes all the way.

    Flyers in 7


  98. andrewberkshire says:

    Good comment. Nice to have a fan of an opposition team who comes in and comments rationally instead of trying to get angry responses. Glad to have you here.

  99. t1tan5 says:

    A respectable flyers fan. I can’t believe it!

  100. twocents says:

    That’s the best comment I have ever read from an opposing team’s fan on this site.

    As fans I think we are all in for an entertaining series.

  101. Fansincebirth says:

    We’re going to have to get a ruling on this guy. Normally, visiting fans are supposed to be spitting venom, calling us and our players, cities and country nasty things and eating our children….

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, welcome aboard? :o)

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  102. terrygain says:

    Thank you for your very sensible comment. I hope none of the kids here embarrass us long term Hab fans.

  103. Max_a_million says:

    There is a reason the Flyers wear prison colors.  

    Even Don Cherry the pied piper of fighting and general goonery finds disgust in Carcillo and Hartnell, that’s saying something.

    I have way too many friends that are Philly fans, and unfortunately I think this is the worst possible match up for us.  It seems like our only chance is to rattle Leighton … it’s hard to see them pulling him.  Hopefully you are right and the Flyers played their best and we played our worst, and hopefully we get a goalie who doesn’t allow the Flyers to push our goalie into the net for a goal.  

    The old Hartnell hat trick … (1) Goal (2) High Sticking Penalty (3) Run the goalie


  104. pmaraw says:


  105. Ian Cobb says:

    Nice post 0-3to4-3, I also feel we will be entertained for 7 games. What a treat fans are having on both sides of the street with their respected teams this year. If you guys get Carter back, we will have our hands full.

    Enjoy our game!

  106. jbroderi says:

    first thing first, I think Pleks can bounce back and have a good series here, but is anyone else concerned if we had to pay over 5 million a year long term for him??  Depending on the outcome of the play-offs and how much pleks wants, I think we might have to let him go.  Hate to say it, but he is a shadow of the player that was 4th in assists back after christmas, and is getting more shadowy by the minute.  Like I said, I think he will come through for us, but do we need another long contract for a small centre??  I might look elsewhere.



  107. FSUPhi1584 says:

    I think the PP is something that should be focused on more than usual
    in this series because there will be a lot of them.

    I’d like to
    see them use an overload for one wave and umbrella for another to keep
    the Flyers guessing. On the Umbrella, I’d like to see Spacek or Subban
    as the D man in the high slot, Gomez and Metropolit (He does have 10 PP
    goals in the reg season) down low, and Gionta and MAB playing near the
    upper circles with MAB on the right side. Then an overload can be used
    with Subban/Spacek, Hamrlik, Pleks, AK, and Cammy.

  108. Dunboyne Mike says:

    I can appreciate that there will sometimes be mysteries behind why certain players DON’T dress or play. For example, looking at Hartnell ensconced in front of Jaro like a Winnebago in a Perrettes car-park, you just KNOW that there is some private reason why RO’B — with his size and gameness — isn’t playing.

    But what I can’t understand is why other players — or actually just one other player — DOES still play. And that’s MAB. The fabled shot has vanished and the poor guy is not having a good playoffs on D, his second home. I mean, even though so many Habs looked bad last night — including the youngster PK — MAB was atrocious, coughing up in our end, inefficient and porous on the blue-line on the PK, weak and slow against the Flyers forwards.

    Don’t mean to malign the guy, but what am I missing?

  109. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Oh no! They think I’m soft.  Gomez sucks, Gionta sucks, Halak sucks.  USA-USA-USA!

  110. habsman-itoba says:

    Nice!  Generally, however, fans of other teams who come to this site are pretty idiotic and incomprehensible.  I need to get an 8 year old to “translate” what most leaf’s fans try to communicate.  I noticed that you correctly used an apostrophe.  This indicates a higher intelligence than most of the non-Habs fans comments seen here. 

    I agreed with pretty much all of your original post, but the very last line. 


    Habs in 6ish.

  111. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Just kidding…not my style.  Life’s too short to be an a**hole online.

    Maybe you guys can help me with a couple of things I can’t seem to shake.


    1) Why is Ryan O’Byrne not in the lineup?  Obviously I don’t watch every Habs game, but he seems like he’d be useful against the Flyers.  It’s not like he could be any worse than Bergeron, right?


    2) This is probably a few months too late to ask this question but, why Jacques Martin?  Are you honestly going to tell me that the most storied franchise in the sport couldn’t find anyone better than a perennial underachiever to be their coach?  Not be too much of a homer, but wouldn’t you rather have Laviolette?

  112. Say Ash says:


    1) Wanna coach?

    2) Laviolette is a french name but he must speak the language, as per Gauthier’s mandate.

  113. JF says:

    Habs fans are asking the same question about O’Byrne.  Bergeron is in for his point shot on the powerplay, although he’s only scored one PP goal in the playoffs.  I heard O’Byrne may be in tomorrow.

    As for JM, Pierre Boivin (Habs president) made it clear at the end of last season that the first requirement for a coach of the Canadiens is that he speak French.  Fans have been questioning and criticizing JM all season, but I think he’s actually done a very good job in the playoffs so far.  As for calling him a perennial underachiever, I think those Ottawa teams he coached would have gone farther if they’d had better goaltending.

  114. jbroderi says:

    I obviously can speak for the majority of posters and say that both those topics have been the centre of many heated discussions on here over the year.  O’Byrne does have some mental cramps, but I think he should be in the line-up tomorrow for sure.  There is the thought that once you get in martins daoghouse, it’s a pretty big struggle to get out.  Fact is, O’byrne has played decent in the play-offs.

    The Martin thing was brought up quite a bit, especially given the habs speedy small players that may be better suited for a run and gun game.  That was the thought, but Martin, to his credit, has done a very good job making adjustments to his game plan this year.  It remains to be seen if he can continue this trend.  Philly is hitting their stride, and although I think it will be a long series, Philly worries me a lot more than boston would have.  Laviolette is an excellent coach, better than both stay puff boudreau and bylsma, so he would have been a good choice, for sure.  Gainey didn’t always make sense in his decisions, but for now, I guess we’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until this year finishes playing out.

    As a note, and it goes for many fans on this site, I like talking hockey, and although I am a huge habs fan, I will put that aside and talk hockey with other fans as opposed to being a prick or complainer.  Good to talk to someone from the other side.

    I’m not wishing you guys luck in game 2 though!!  :)



    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  115. ooder says:

    1) no clue, absolutely no clue

    2) unfortunately for some weird reason a coach must speak french if they want to coach for MTL.

    i dunno why, considering Bowman, Dick Irvin, Sam Pollock (GM not coach) didn’t speak a word of french but no one complained. Even old Canadien players said that the language a coach speaks shouldn’t matter.

    As for perennial underachiever, his time in Ottawa was marred by having Lalime in nets, and no matter how good his team was Lalime was garabage


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  116. Fansincebirth says:

    Like a small child who gets caught doing something wrong, the answer to both questions is:

    I dunno….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  117. CHsam says:

    1) I know. Why the hell is he not playing ? I remember watching MAB standing next to the net with a Flyer there and doing NOTHING to get him out of the way. His fabled shot has not appeared and worse of all he CAN’T KEEP THE PUCK IN THE OZONE…………..sigh

    Really, it’s like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


    2) Politics. Or spelled in french, les politiques… or did I screw that up too? Doesnt matter if you speak french, you gotta have a french last name.

  118. punkster says:

    1)  OB is our secret weapon. Like that sign on the axe and fire extinguiser in the subways, “Break glass only in the event of emergency”.

    2) JM is our figurehead. We needed someone who could wear bad suits, weird ties and a 50s hair style to draw the attention off our real coach, Captain Kirk.

    Welcome aboard!


  119. terrygain says:

    1. Why is Ryan O’Byrne not in the lineup? 

    Good question. The answer is unbelievably incompetent coaching. 

    2. why Jacques Martin?

    Damn good question. The answer is Gainey made a huge mistake. Year after year,  Martin couldn’t beat Quinn  even with vastly superior personnel. Unfortunately so many here are so grateful to be in the playoffs they are either  worshipping at Martin’s feet or at least giving him a pass. We have advanced this far despite Martin. We have all that speed and he plays a boring soft trap system. He’s a incompetent as his brother -in -law – the accidental P.M.  

  120. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Glad to see I’m not totally off base with my thoughts on Bergeron/O’Byrne.  Obviously I’m working with a smaller sample size than you guys are, but -10 is -10.


    I get the whole francophone thing, I guess.  I just would have thought that after 17 years (wasn’t Demers available?), compromises could have been made when hiring a coach.  I understand that Lalime was no Roy (or maybe Halak, even), but those were some pretty good teams that kept losing to Toronto (isn’t it funny to think about the Leafs being in the playoffs) in the first round.  I’m sure that Laviolette or Crawford (sticking to guys who have rings) probably could have picked up enough French to deal with the media pretty quickly.

  121. Fansincebirth says:

    If you understand the whole history of the team and how and why it came about, you can understand the French connection. Still, in this day and age, one would think that you just want a winning team and a winning coach regardless of the language profile but…..

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  122. DavidKB says:

    You made reference to PK’s debut earlier. I watched those games, he was the best player in at least one of those loses. He ducked a hit from Pronger who seem a bit peeved. 

    I’ve never been a Pronger fan. 

  123. TommyB says:

    I think the answer to number one is…Jacques Martin feels M.A. Bergeron is so necessary for the power play that he simply must dress him in place of the much larger and much more physical O’Byrne.  You won’t find many Habs fans who agree with that assessment.  It is not a francophone thing at all.  It is based on the assumption that the Flyers will take penalties, and the Habs will have PP oportunities.  Didn’t work out too well in game 1, did it?

    Regarding number two…please tell me what you think makes Laviolette so much better choice than Martin?  I’m not a huge supporter of Jacques Martin, but Laviolette?  Please.  He’ll last in Philly about as long as the hair thinning on his head.

  124. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Stanley Cups: Laviolette 1, Martin 0

    I know that its not always so cut and dry, but its a start.  The team that Laviolette won the Cup with in Carolina was talented and had a hot goalie, but Martin had some excellent teams with Ottawa and got past the second round only once (This season being his second).  Needless to say he was pretty bad in Florida, although his buddy Keenan had plenty to do with that.  At his worst with Carolina, Laviolette missed the playoffs with as many or more points than the Habs had this year, which was, for them, a step back from last year’s 93.  I’m not saying that Laviolette is the second coming of Scotty Bowman, but right now I’d rather have him behind the bench than Martin.  Besides, Montreal had all offseason to evaluate coaching options while the Flyers hired Laviolette midseason.

  125. 0-3To4-3 says:

    It took me a while to warm up to Pronger.  All I could think when we first picked him up was ‘great, the second coming of Derian Hatcher,’ but he’s definitely proven his worth so far in the playoffs.  His presence has allowed Carle to contribute more offensively and the way he sucks up minutes is pretty impressive for a guy his size/age.  As for him being peeved, that’s pretty much par for the course.  Looks like you’ll eventually have a pretty good one in PK, the other night notwithstanding.  It’s always surprising when a young defenseman can step up and play that many minutes so early in his career, look like he belongs and do it in the playoffs!

  126. habsman-itoba says:

    As a relatively new father, I rather enjoyed the metaphor. 

  127. The Capitalist Pig says:

    They don’t man up after last night’s game and in two weeks time you’ll be throwing out the matress!

  128. Ian Cobb says:

    I had you in mind Jon. Don’t forget the powder.!

  129. punkster says:

    Wow…been a while CN…;)


  130. punkster says:

    Welcome back.


  131. HardHabits says:

    Where’s crashthenetcrashthenet???

  132. kazmojo says:

    But given the way MAB’s been playing, I don’t see why he’s #7. MAB’s a well-known defensive liability, but inserted for his PP prowess. And yet only a single assist in games 1 and 4 vs Pittsburgh, and shut out the last 4 games.

  133. Ian Cobb says:

    I am seeing the same my friend. MAB, both Kostitsons and Pouliot seem to have a more negative than positive effect on a game. After saying that, even our best were a no show last night.

    I think there will be a much different out come tomorrow night.

  134. nightmare_49 says:

        Pronger’s presence felt immediately

        By Rich Hofmann


    On 17 of his first 20 shifts in Game 1, the Montreal Canadiens’ Mike Cammalleri — he of the 12 post-season goals — was forced to look at the smiling face of Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger for at least part of the time.
         Hickey’s Famous Honda goes National –
    Flyers Fans Vandalize Car of Canadiens Reporter …..  NHL FanHouse / Chris Botta


  135. jbroderi says:




    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  136. Danno says:

    Kate Smith is Scott Hartnell in a dress.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  137. pmaraw says:

    habsinsideout1 #Habs have suffered a worse playoff shutout loss: 7-0 to Seattle, March 19, 1919

  138. Max_a_million says:

    I misunderstood the question reading too quickly.  Sorry

  139. vic says:

    REmember Oburne got a couple of penalties so the bench and not dressing punishment.

    Sergi shifted back and forth from 3 lind to 4 th and benched no explanation.

    Pouliot was playing great then send to 4 line he also got a penalty great for development and confidence.

    If I was these players I would ask for a trade to get the hell away from JM who thinks you must be a star

    and make no mistakes when you come up.

    I dont see much of a future with JM

  140. TripleX says:

    Congratulations  to Lacey Wilson who competed in the Miss USA pageant as Miss Massachusetts and is the daughter of Doug Wilson.  WOOOHOOOO!



    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  141. TripleX says:


    Worst defeat since 1918 I believe.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  142. pmaraw says:

    yup, nothing to worry about.

  143. Ayan_SB says:

    Apparently Miss USA winner has a little history pole dancing. At this point, I’d be surprised if most of the pageant girls weren’t strippers at one time.

  144. Corporate says:

    may be JM doesn’t have a long future but Halak and his coaching got us here which is a lot further than anyone thought..

  145. TommyB says:

    Oh boy, here we go again.  Stopping in to HIO is the equivalent to slowing down on the highway to glance at an accident scene.  Seems I just can’t help myself, even though I know what I will see.

    Anyway, not that anyone gives a rat’s patootie, I’ll weigh in on last night’s game.  Was I the only one who felt it was time for a real stinker from the Habs?  Remember this is the same Habs team that played down to it’s competition level all year long.  Yet, today’s discussion seems to revolve primarily around the Flyers and their size,  IMO, the Flyers and their size was secondary last night.  The primary reason the Habs were soundly beaten 6-0 was because they simply did not show up.  The Habs did not compete with the same urgency they had in the previous two series.  Why?  Good question, but shit happens.  Stupid penalties, the kind we expected the Flyers to take, were partly to blame.  What exactly was the message the Habs were trying so hard to send last night?  That they are as tough as the Flyers?  Big mistake.  The Habs did not skate last night.  Instead, they cheated at nearly every opportunity, and tried to demonstrate that they could be as physical as the Flyers.  They failed.  Full marks to Philly for recognizing this fact and letting the Habs self-destruct. 

    Maybe it was inevitable that the Habs were due for a letdown.  The last 14 games have taken a huge toll on the players, both physically, and emotionally,  What we thought would be an advantage, having the extra couple of days off while the Flyers/Bruins played game 7, may have turned into the exact opposite.  Were they gearing up for the Bruins instead? The extra days off may have allowed the legs to slow a bit.  This is one reason why I don’t agree with the “optional” skate.  You don’t have to skate them hard, but everybody should skate just to keep the legs going.  The Flyers had way more jump to their game, and this after just finishing game 7, just 48 hours earlier.  Such is the life of a pampered pro athlete today, I guess.  But I won’t dwell on that.

    Game one, was exactly that.  Game one.  It takes 4 wins to take a series.  If the Habs come out in game 2 with the same seemingly lack of interest, then count this playoff run over.  They don’t have to win the next game, although it would help immensely, but they do have to compete.  Most of us fans are very appreciative of what the Habs have accomplished in this playoff.  I know I am.  But what I sincerely hope, is that the players have not taken up the same attitude.  If they are content to look back on the last 14 games and say to themselves “hey, we did pretty good”, then it’s over.  But if they look back on those 14 games, and then look at game 15 and think “c’mon guys, we are so much better than that”, then we could be in for a continued good ride.  The Habs have been through a lot so far.  Much more than most other teams in the playoffs when you look at who they faced.  It’s up to them to decide if what they accomplished was enough.  Stay tuned Tuesday night for a good look at the answer to that question.

  146. spoonfullofjelly says:

    yup Cammaleri had nothing to do with it, quite frankly I don’t think the team did either. You know with their league leading shot block totals.

  147. nightmare_49 says:


    Roy MacGregor  ……………….. 

    Canada’s team?

  148. nightmare_49 says:

      T B – I certainly agree.

  149. Tis Himself says:

    Wasn’t this team done like dinner after Game 1 against the Pens? Considering that they’ve staved off elimination five times already, it’s hard to go mental about last night’s suckfest.

  150. jimmy shaker says:

    Here’s my little rant on why MAB has to stay in the lineup on the D or on the 4th line in the odd event that we do or he does get a PP goal for the boys. If he’s not out there with PK than all we have left is Hammer and Spacek. And I’d rather have Gorges out there instead of hammer. But Hammer’s on the PP because he’s got the best shot on the team. He is a shoot first, pass second guy, who always get’s his point shots through to the net. He almost better than Gonchar and Lidstrom at getting pucks to the net from the point. His shot is hard, quick and rarely blocked. It’s a nice and low shot that never gets off the ice, so it is hard for opponents to block it. He’s quick and mobile out there at the blueline and rarely gets caught flat footed allowing an opponent a shorthanded breakaway goal. He’s simply awesome, that guy is. Sorry for the sarcasm!


  151. Bugs says:

    If last night’s game was just a glitch, or a to-be-expected-but-not-repeated stinker as some suggest, why am I afraid? Maybe it’s just my nature…

    Either way, dang you, Bruinies! Dang you, ya chokin bastiches.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  152. Ian Cobb says:

    Tommy, I think they just enjoy being the come back kids. Your right, they were due for an event like that to remind themselves how tough this cup thing is. If they want it bad enough, they will show us tomorrow night.

  153. HabFab says:

    Right on!

    As I was logging in, it went through my head that I would probably be witnessing a typical HIO feeding frenzy!

    “So I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in…”

  154. TommyB says:

    No doubt about it, you are so right.  I’m assuming there is a typo, and you meant to say “it’s hard to go mental”.  I agree with you.  Last night’s opener does not make me want to fold the tent.  But I do feel that what we saw last night, was even less of an effort than we saw in game 1 vs the Pens.  I’m thinking it was an inevitable letdown that was bound to happen sooner or later, considering what they have done so far.  Better that the letdown came in game 1, and not in a game 6 or game 7.  But if the same lack of effort presents itself tomorrow night, it won’t be looking too promising.  I am confident that this team will look a lot different next game, but that is based on the outlook of an optimistic fan who has no idea what the team mindset is going forward.

  155. SeriousFan09 says:

    Florida hires Dale Tallon to take over GM duties for next season. Which makes sense, if you’re a basement sunbelt team with no money, it’s a great idea to hire a guy who handed the Blackhawks the mother of all salary cap messes and nearly got a half-dozen RFAs turned into UFAs last summer.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  156. Tis Himself says:

    For all the moaning and groaning about the Flyers alleged size, they weren’t exactly pasting Habs to the boards like cartoon characters. I actually thought they were no more aggressive than the Caps or the Pens last night. We just played stupidly and reverted back to being a bunch of pucksturbating perimeter pussies.

  157. Bill J says:

    Way I see it Bugs.  Let’s wait & see what happens tomorrow night,

    game 1 Vs. WSH was a loss, and MANY pundits said it would be quicker then expected WSH in 4…

    Pittsburgh ? despite taking WSH down, was supposed to be PIT in 4…

    Philly last night ?  The Habs where learning the PHI playoff game plan, learning this non-offensive style of play which causes offense indirectly.

    Habs played 14 straight games against offensive teams, give em time to adapt, I got a good feeling tomorrow will be a different Habs team, ready for the Philly game plan.  Take home Ice advantage, Habs in 6


  158. Bill J says:

    Well DUH!

    Someone has to be the new donkey in the sunbelt, looks like Tampa Bay is finally ridding itself of the idiocy it had.

  159. TommyB says:

    Exactly.  Like I mentioned earlier, they let the Habs self-destruct last night.  Stupid penalties, Gomez and Lapierre come to mind….the Flyers were laughing on their bench all night long.  We’ll see what next game brings.

  160. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Our Habs will fight any Goalie anywhere and even they’re own………….This Fight started  on  a get off yer knee’s discussion !

  161. HABZ24 says:

    we need size in the lineup,put o’burnt back in.we need to get back to aggressive blocking shots intense smart disciplined hockey. its only the begining.

  162. SeriousFan09 says:

    Tallon’s taking over the Florida Panthers not the Tampa Bay Lightning Bill.


    \- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  163. Tis Himself says:

    As crappy as they were last night, they win Game 2 and they have home-ice advantage!

  164. Bill J says:

    I referred to the sunbelt, which includes BOTH cities Robert :)

    IE Now that Tampa will not carry “Dumb@$$ GM of the year candidates” Florida will have one 😀

    I was joking, sorry if it did not come across properly lol

  165. DD says:

    It’s always nice to hear from the voices of treason……er, reason (Typo)

  166. SeriousFan09 says:

    I wasn’t paying that close attention, serves me right for skimming the comments section again.

    But it’ll be a blowout in the voting if Mcguire does get the Tampa job.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  167. Bill J says:

    While I do not see McGuire in Tampa Bay.

    I had not heard that one (I watch RDS, and avoid him altogether) about him.

    100% agree, Tampa would only make themselves worse, and retain the crappy GM title.

    Close 2nd for Tallon though.

  168. Ian Cobb says:

    Will he buy into the game plan? If so he will play. Sometimes he forgets his responsibilities, and gets out of position. He is young and learning, but has improved a lot over last year.

  169. Tis Himself says:

    All this team needs is a bunch of manly men who do manly things in a manly way!

  170. Ian Cobb says:

    Our best hockey has been when we put on a full court press forecheck.  But Martin plays the 1-2-2 trap 75% of the game.

  171. HNS says:

    Maybe you’re afraid due to the 16 years of failure by this organization. It’s mind boggling to think that a team that finds a way to beat the 2 best team in the league with incredible super stars, struggle against Philly. You can only think of it as 1 game but I share your concern. 

  172. SeriousFan09 says:

    He does forget his position at times, but he’s a kid and his mentor Andrei is on IR so that makes it harder for him. Hard working guy and we need the bulk on the back end, the no parking zone around Jaro needs to be reinstated.

    MAB can’t do anything against the Flyers when they enter our zone, OB can and in this series that’s vital.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  173. Bugs says:

    Game 1 vs Washycity was a win.

    Factual errors do not soothe me, sir. But thanks anyway.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  174. Bugs says:

    More afraid of the brawn in their organization than the “struggling” in ours; tell ya that fer nuthin, mate.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  175. Bugs says:

    Worked so far. Furthest we’ve gone in 17 years. Must take Jack Marty’s word over yours at the moment, Mr.Ian.

    With all due respect of course.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  176. DD says:

    Tom, I was thinking the same thing today. I would rather see them self-implode in the first game, than later on in the series. This should make them a little more humble, and get back to the workman-like habits they need to compete. This team has to fight for every inch on the ice, or it’s over. Tomorrow we will see what they’re made of. I think JM and his crew have these guys believing in themselves and they will respond to the embarrassment last night. I don’t think this team knows the word quit, unlike last year’s edition.

  177. ths says:

    Boys better rack up some wins before Carter and Laperierre get back

    Ooh Aah Habs on the war path

  178. Bill J says:

    Crud, I mixed up PIT & WSH for the game 1 result.

    Similar point to be made and still it is just one game.

    Keep the faith.

  179. DD says:

    I’m pretty sure Alexander Daigle is signed in Europe.

  180. twocents says:

    Now that boys and girls, is the straight goods.

    I was just telling my neighbour something along these lines, Tommy.

    I can’t wait to see tomorrow’s game.

  181. HNS says:

    Brawn sided with the opposition in the last 2 series too. If Halak is not stellar, this won’t last long.

  182. HabFab says:

    Me thinks he is looking for that manly Centurion!!

  183. habssince1909 says:

    Okay – everyone calm down….. The Flyers were on a high from coming back from a 3-0 deficit – and beating the Bruins  in game 7.  They came into their barn “flying” – our guys were a bit rusty from being off and perhaps too well rested…..

    Now, Game 2 – the “real” series begins.  We will re-group and show them what we are made of.  Come on, we eliminated Washington and Pittsburgh.  We will NOT give in that easily to these guys… gotta BELIEVE.


    GO HABS GO…..

  184. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    I think we will see more 2 man forecheck on tuesday – flyer d-men are over rated, and pronger can be pressured with speed.

    also, we will see O’byrne – i hope tomorrow.

    we need more presence down low, and in front of the net – that is obvious and will be corrected.

    lastly – we need to play more “on the edge” – a little dirtier – and provoke the flyers into stupid penalties.

    their “tough” guys have a weakness for taking stupid penalties when they are provoked; this is where Lapierre needs to play an important role.

  185. 4loorplay says:

    As I said before…the habs are gonna run into a wall that they will not be able to get around….Im a habs fan……flyers in 6 at the most….I wish i will eat crow.

  186. Les Habitants says:

    “How miserable is Philly? The residents of the City of Brotherly Love once booed Santa Claus and pelted him with snowballs at an Eagles game. Maybe it’s the long commutes, violent crime and plethora of toxic waste sites that has people grumpy. Philadelphia scored in the top 20 in all three areas.”


    Sources: Bert Sperling; Moody’s; U.S. Census Bureau


    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  187. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    As much as you guys think you know about hockey, and the players, Mcguire has your knowledge + 20 years of FULL TIME dedicated experience to the game, on and off the ice.

    It is freakin unreal how naive you guys are when it comes to guys with seasoned experience.

    You guys are what, 20, 21 years old, tops.

    When mcguire was your age he was already committing himself 100 per cent to the game – not part time, a few hours a day.

    Then Mcguire worked for some of the brightest hockey minds the game has ever seen; years of practical experience

    Ask Mike Boone how good a GM Pierre Mcguire would be – if you could spend 5 minutes in a room with Mcguire you guys would be completely blown away by his knowledge.

    I have learned from this site how knowledgeable Boone is. His analysis of the games, of the players, he knows hockey.

    Boone is at a pretty high level. Higher than most.

    Boone would be the first tell you that Mcguire takes it to a whole other level.


  188. SeriousFan09 says:

    Mid-twenties actually, but I do know that Mcguire hasn’t held a front office job in the NHL ever, that being a General Manager isn’t something you can just do because you know the game and have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player in the NHL down to the bakery his second cousin owns in Syracuse NY. How many successful general managers have there been where they just showed up to take over a GM job one day? Not a lot, you want to be a GM? Suck it up and start lower than the top job, don’t monday morning quarterback every decision every team makes with the benefit of hindsight.

    If it is such a no-brainer that he’d be a great GM, why doesn’t have at least have an assistant GM job yet? The NHL has seen some serious turnover in the last 3 years for management all across the NHL. He knows a lot about the game, but he’s also prone to hyperbole and either has no integrity or has some terrible lapses in judgement along the way. He literally compared the Robinson, Savard, Lapointe Big Three to Toronto’s D at the start of the year of Schenn, Beauchemain, Komisarek and Kaberle. Yeah, 3 Hall of Fame Defencemen versus four guys not to fit to tie any of their skates. He went from saying Toronto would be the most improved team in the East to saying Toronto was years away from properly competing on Trade Deadline day.




    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  189. habssince1909 says:

    let’s just say I hope you do eat crow…but in the meantime, you gotta send the good vibes to the boys…Habs in 7….and it won’t be easy….

  190. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Congratulations!  You’ve used a two year old quote having nothing to do with hockey to…well I’m not sure what you were trying to do.  At least, you managed to waste some of this Flyers fan’s time.  Well played, sir, well played.

  191. pmaraw says:

    I’m not sure it matters how old the quote is, its still relevant.

  192. rogieshan says:

    By virtue of being in the conference final, the Habs will pick no earlier than 27th in the upcoming June Draft. Our original slot was 15th.

    Hope we end up picking 30th…

  193. Xtrahabsfan says:

    0-3To4-3 …I won’t waste your time ,in fact lets cut to the chase,FLYERS SUCK!

  194. Les Habitants says:

    “The City of Brotherly Love” is more of a punch line than the truth, and that is especially evident by the behavior of their fans.  Over the past several years, Philadelphia is known more for its idiot fans than it is for the cheese steak. 

    While it is true that it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the barrel, for some reason, Eagles and Phillies fans seem to have more bad apples per capita than any other sports city in the country, and one of those winners made headlines this past week. 

    After his friend was ejected from the Phillies game for cursing, spitting and spilling beer on another fan (who happened to be an off-duty police officer) and his daughter, Matthew Clemmens decided to up the ante by intentionally vomiting on the father and daughter.  Clemmens was arrested and held on $35,000 bail last Friday.

    I’m sure there a some fans with some class in Philadelphia, but to say this is a recurring theme would be a huge understatement.  You think Philly fans think they’re simply getting a bad wrap?  While Clemmens’ display was probably the most disgusting, take a look at the following list of incidents, and you decide if they are the worst in all of sports.

    …well….do we really need a caption for this photo? (google images)

    Phillies Fans Charged with Battery….literally:  In JD Drew’s first game in Philadelphia, at least two Phillies fans snuck batteries into the stadium and threw them at the outfielder because they were upset that Drew’s agent Scott Boras advised him to hold out for more money the year prior, when the Phillies selected him as the second overall pick in the 1997 MLB Draft.  Had just one of those batteries struck Drew (or any player, umpire or fan, for that matter), a number of serious injuries could have occurred.

    Eagles Fans Show Their Draft Expertise:  In the 1999 NFL Draft, the Eagles selected quarterback Donovan McNabb from Syracuse.  Eagles fans in attendance at the Draft booed McNabb as he walked to the stage and accepted his hat and jersey for being the second overall selection that year.  The classless Philadelphia fans had wanted their hometown team to select running back Ricky Williams instead.  McNabb would have the last laugh, however, as he outperformed many of his peers from that draft, including Williams, who was later suspended from substance abuse problems.

    Rival WR Gets the Wrong Kind of Standing Ovation:  In the fifth game in the 1999 NFL season against the hated Dallas Cowboys at the Eagles’ Veteran’s Stadium, Cowboys star wide receiver Michael Irvin was slammed to the ground and remained motionless and ultimately was carted off the field due to a spinal cord injury.  Eagles fans cheered and mocked Irvin as he was carted out of the stadium.

    Phillies Fans Boo Their MVP:  Just two summers ago, Phillies first baseman, Ryan Howard, who had won the National League Rookie of the Year and MVP Awards,  started the 2008 season in a dismal slump, in which he batted .172 in the month of April.  Phillies fans booed and jeered the All-Star slugger until he turned things around later in the season, and finished second in the MVP voting that season and was an integral part of bringing the first World Series to Philadelphia since the 1980 season.

    Thank you Philadelphia for being the anti-measuring stick for sportsmanship and righteousness.  In your never-ending quest to be the biggest degenerate sports fans in America, you continue to create new and more effective ways to further distance yourselves from every belligerent bleacher bum who has taken pride in being kicked out of a sports event.  In the words of the great Ron Burgandy….”Stay classy, Philadelphia.”


    Rich Rodriguez


    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  195. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Yeah well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

  196. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    0-3to4-3, I am going to reply to your post here.

    The reason Habs, well specifically GM Bob Gainey signed Jacques Martin over other peeps for the head coach position is because he wanted a team with defense-first type of mentality. The Centennial year as we all know was a disaster, and one of the significant reasons for that were Price’s struggles (along with injuries). During that long stretch and the playoffs, Price’s stats were horrific. Gainey didn’t want his then, number 1 goaltender to struggle throughout his young career, as it would have been risky to play a young, unproven goaltender under a run and gun system. With a defensive core, GM Gainey and many of us fans here expected Price to excel under such system. 

    This happened before Jaroslav Halak took over the number 1 spot, and now with a proven goaltender (well he’s not exactly proven – but look at his stats), other fans such as you wonder, how come the Habs don’t adapt to a different system? Why trap, when an offensive minded coach can help the Habs with their offense. They don’t need a trapping system when Halak is playing so great.

    Well, back then Jacques Martin’s hiring made sense when Price was the starter and he was struggling. We just needed the goaltending to be better.

    I know many Habs fans here will disagree with me, but this is how I see it. 

  197. Les Habitants says:

    And lets not forget the condom throwing incident last round. And the spiting on 10-year-old girls.

    The point is Philly is full of the biggest most disgusting scumbags on the planet period.

    Take away the Hockey team and it’s still full of the most low-life @$$holes anywhere

    Stay “classy” Philadelphia.


    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  198. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Nice, you know how to use the google.  Maybe you can help me out with a little problem I’m having.  I was trying to find out when Philly fans last rioted after winning the 7th game of a series that won them…absolutely nothing.


    I found a few results for Montreal, but nothing yet for Philadelphia.  Thanks in advance for your help.

  199. Bugs says:


    That you?

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  200. megagoten says:

    that’s just a waste of time. this is about hockey and should remain about hockey

  201. Les Habitants says:

    Google or no Google, facts are facts.

    You can’t dismiss them because you don’t like them. 

    Truth hurts sometimes huh?



     The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  202. pmaraw says:

    everyone on this site knows they weren’t fans.  try again.  the incidents listed above your post happened in the stadiums (or at the draft) those are philly’s real fans.  Spitting on 10 year old girls?  slashing tires and stealing quebec lisence plates?  those were philly fans.

  203. terrygain says:

    I think we will see more 2 man forecheck on tuesday – flyer d-men are over rated, and pronger can be pressured with speed

    Come on Ed, quit teasing me. There’s no reason to believe Martin’s been reading my comments. 

  204. Say Ash says:

    Careful, there’s a beverage here, man!

  205. terrygain says:

    After what you said about Francis Bouillon, your opinion is worthless.  According to you Francis is a Hothead!  He was pound for pound our best hitter and  a bargain at 750K per year. And you call yourself a serious fan.

    But your comments about O’B are correct. What that tells us about the competence of Martin is distressing?


  206. Rainrocket16 says:

    Go Habs Go

    This series hasn’t started yet in my eyes, Game 1 was a gift to them. They got some lucky stuff going for them. The habs will no doubt get revenge. We will show them that Leighton is a joke, he faced maybe 2 good scoring chances last night!

    Believe! And then Believe some more!!

  207. 0-3To4-3 says:

    How convenient that they weren’t fans but just happened to use Habs victories as excuses to destroy property.

    The people guilty of the events mentioned in Philadelphia were and are a**holes and they were probably Philly fans.  I’m not here to try to justify their actions or apologize for them, but I’m also not one of them.  There are plenty of good, hard cheering, clean living real Philly fans who are embarrassed by the actions of the idiot few.  I’m on of those and I came here to talk hockey.  That being said, if the actions of a few bad Philly fans help you get over the beating you took last night and I expect to continue throughout the series, please continue to focus on them.  If you’re actually willing to talk some hockey, maybe I’ll check back with you later.

  208. Caballero says:

    If we are going to lose to Philly, let’s go out with a good fight at least! I am hoping last night’s game was an isolated incident and we will play our game tomorrow. Good defensive hockey, convert on opportunities when they make a mistake, don’t get penalized. Quite simple really. You are not going to beat a bigger and stronger opponent by wasting time trying to prove you are not intimidated by them.

  209. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Not dismissing them and they certainly don’t hurt me.  Am I embarrassed by them, sure, who wouldn’t be, but I’ll sleep fine tonight knowing that I had nothing to do with any of those incidents.  I am still trying to figure out what any of this actually has to do with hockey, which I thought was the point of this board.

  210. HardHabits says:

    Actually Habs were 19th over-all so I think their slot was 11, but who’s counting.

    This year’s run adds value if either:

    a) the Habs win the Cup.

    b) the Habs build on whatever else happens and develop into a better playoff performer in the near future with whatever new signings and prospects added to the roster in those upcoming years.

  211. Caballero says:

    Well, I agree that it is useless debating who has the more violent fans. That is ridiculous. Obviously, it would be nice if fans here did not use the mob mentality to commit criminal acts. Your team is the perfect test for the Habs right now. There is no way this team is going to win a cup until they can figure out how to beat physical teams like philly because that is pretty much what a lot of teams in the West look like. May as well see what this team is really made of.

  212. HUDSONHAB says:

    Exactly! By trying to prove your not intimidated, you take stupid penalties a la Gomez. Just work hard and smart and support each other. I can not emphasize  that enough.


  213. 0-3To4-3 says:

    I guess that does make some sense.  My only thought there is that Martin’s defensive tactics were most effective pre-lockout with all of the clutching and grabbing that came with that era.  In his only ‘new’ NHL gig, he was pretty bad, even if you consider that he was handicapped by Keenan’s ineptitude as GM.  I know if I were a Habs fan, I would go nuts watching that team trap with the personnel they have.

  214. ari says:

    and if you want to take penalty ,take a good one ,damage good,

  215. pmaraw says:

    oh believe me, we are going nuts!!!

  216. Bugs says:


    Remember how we all agreed that trading offensive chances with the Cappers and Pittsburgher would send us directly to the grave?

    Now, the idea of trading body-checks with the Flyers seems just as preposterous.

    Take the dirty stuff. Get the PP. Convert.

    Should do.

    Superfluously redundant, I remain

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant-Director of St-Habbie’s Hospital for the Blind, Head Physician of Neuroflannelogy Unit, and Occupational Therapist in Habsbros Emergency Ward:

  217. punkster says:

    They’re gonna be fine. They solved the Cs and Ps didn’t they? They’ll solve the Fs.


  218. punkster says:

    I chose:

    c) all of the above


  219. Le Jadester says:

    I agree alot with how you see things like that as well. I don’t know what the other poster said but a pretty fair rationalization/assesment of how things went over the medium term this past year.

    I don’t know how much agreeing wiith you means to the grand scheme of things,,,,,,,,but as a bias fan, my preference leans to a run and gun style of hockey. I love attacking minded teams even if they lose.  At least thats where I get the most outta my hockey entertainment fix. I enjoyed players always looking to score, even the D gettin’ involved and pinching all the time.  Anyways, if you play the odds, the patient trap style of hockey always seems to give you a chance to win, and wins are the only thing that matters in this business. And the Habs are winnin’ right now………and winnin’ like huge !

    What’s JM gonna do this time ’round with’em Phlyers ?

    Habs, OLE !

  220. punkster says:

    Don’t try to figure it out. It’s a nightly ritual here to segue into areas barely related to a hockey game. Sports as theatre or visa versa.


  221. HFX-HabFan says:

    No, the teams that miss the playoffs go 1 through 14 in picks, regardless if a non-playoff team ended up with more points than a team that made it in the opposite conference.  Had we exited in the first round, we would pick 15th.  Now we’re 27 at worst, and 30 at best.

    A name like Kabanov is an intriguing prospect because of his ability, but injuries and attitude have seen his stock plummet.  He might even drop out of the first round altogether, so there’s a chance that he’s still available for us.  I’m not sold on him because of the attitude, but he’s intriguing nonetheless.

    Another name that has seen his stock drop significantly is John McFarland.  He was the top pick in the OHL draft a couple of years ago, and while he hasn’t put up jaw-dropping numbers, he should still project to be a top-six forward.  He can play centre or the wing, and while not huge, would add some size to the forward mix.

  222. Born in a Bad Year says:

    MAB has looked like a peewee player out there on every shift.  It is time for the grownups to play.  We picked him up when we were desperate for a shot on the point and he is in so far over his head he can’t even get that done now.  He averages less than two shots a game, even with playing four minutes a game with the man advantage.  

    Despite being benched for five games O’Byrne still leads the defensemen in both hits and plus-minus. 

    This may sound strange but I could see O’Byrne and Subban being a good pairing.  O’Byrne is strong in front and in the corners.  Subban has the speed to float and disrupt the cycle and clear the zone.

    O’Byrne and Subban would be interesting on the powerplay.  O’Byrne does a great job of keeping the puck in the offensive zone, makes solid passes and if you check the stats this playoff, shoots as much as Hamrlik despite getting no PP time. As much as I love Gorges, he only shoots on net once every 115 shifts. 

    Besides, aren’t we all a little tired of seeing every orange jersey get a free pass to the crease?

    I miss SK, even with all the warts.  He will go on to greatness somewhere else. You don’t forget the kind of success he had with the Knights in London.


  223. Mr. Biter says:

    Yeah, a real slash on that goof Ponger. No doubt crippled himfor life. one of the worst calls allpost season.

  224. WatchMojo says:

    Question to 0-3To4-3, assuming you’re from Philly.

    What is the general hierarchy of the pro sports leagues in Philadelphia?

    – Sixers
    – Flyers
    – Phillies
    – Eagles

    I presume Flyers are 4th just due to where hockey sits in the general list of interests in US cities.

    Always curious about things like that in each city.

  225. kempie says:

    Thanks Rob, you just saved me a pile of typing.

  226. Mr. Biter says:

    Who wins game 2 wins the series. BTW, MAB was bought in to help on the PP which sucked before he came (after AM injury). He’s not a defensive specialist (i know that) as we have lots down in Hamilton and is our only offensive defensive threat from the point on the PP. The others (including PJ) can shoot the puck but MAB has the quickest release and hardest shot (and like MC) can one time it. And in closing The Flyers (as well as the Pens & Caps)know this and have to play a player higher up when MAB is on the PP to try to limit his shot potential. This leaves someone elso open. i posted back when AM might be playing about our abundense of d-men and someone would have to sit. That’s why they give JM the big bucks and we post here and complain when we lose and agree when we win.

  227. terrygain says:

    Look.  This isn’t rocket science. My day job is a lot harder than Martin’s.  Put MAB on the 4th line.  Problem solved. Martin is playing the 4th line less than 5 minutes a game, so it’s not as if it’s going to screw up some ingenious game plan.  

  228. Off-side says:

    Gotta love this!


    By the way, can we get rid of this 0-3To4-3 guy?  He’s really bringing me down. 



  229. Mr. Biter says:

    Got no problem with that. But then who sits from the 4th line?

  230. Off-side says:

    Hey guy,


    1- I didn’t know about the handbook of rules for rioting.  Is there a paragraph that states one can only riot at the conclusion of a series?  I mean come on, it’s not like we are dealing with educated rioters, right?

    2-They may be rioting, but at least they are damaging their own property.  They’re not puking on Grandma who drove all the way from FlyerLand to cheer on her team.

    3- If your team sucked as much as our did all year and you had this amazing comeback, you would be singing in the streets too. 

    4- Remind us next time to call you for any special permissions.

    5- Get off our site and go troll on other teams sites.  But then again, your team doesn’t have that many friends.  Just ask anyone from Pittsburgh.

  231. Off-side says:

    If you are here to discuss hockey and nothing else, then why are you replying to any comments that are not about hockey and pertain more to the crap your town did?  You don’t add up.

  232. Off-side says:

    I don’t think we need to defend what we talk about on this board.  If you don’t like our discussions then go away.

  233. ari says:

    very nice,the only problem 4 of top 2 lines are under 6 feet,and the rest who above 6 feet dont play like one.we have not seen one hard check from this team yet,we are too soft to play against.

  234. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Originally from the hockey hotbed of Puerto Rico, but grew up in and live in Philly.

    I’m personally Phillies, Flyers, Eagles, Union (let’s not forget the MLS, you’ll have your expansion team soon enough), Sixers.

    Generally though it’s probably Eagles, Phillies, Flyers, Sixers, just based on sheer numbers of loyal fans.  Most people in Philly will tell you that they’re 4 for 4.  I would say, however, that Flyers fans are maybe the most passionate and loyal.  In 06-07, when we had the worst record in the league,  the Wachovia Center was still pretty much soldout for every game.  The championship parades in Philly were huge when the Flyers won the cup (or so I’ve been told, I wasn’t around yet).  On the other hand, though, a lot of Flyers fans aren’t really all-around hockey fans, per se.  Once, the Flyers are eliminated from the playoffs they don’t really watch anymore and with the scheduling the way it is, they’re not too familiar with Western conference players.  This was especially apparent during the Olympics.  There was a lot of ‘who’s Drew Doughty, Joe Pavelski, Ryan Kesler, Shea Webber, etc’ going on.

  235. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Sorry if I’m harshing your mellow, man.

  236. TripleX says:

    I made this exact point when JM was hired, that it was all a plan to insulate Price with a strong defensive system. Of course I was ridiculed as being an idiot.  Why would Bob hire a coach and spend money on stay at home Dmen just to protect one player.  Well duh?  Bob felt Price was the key to a winning club and was intent on doing all he could to help him reach his potential.  Bob always intended to build his team around Price.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  237. 0-3To4-3 says:

    Pleased to meet you too, Off-side.

  238. J. Ambrose says:

    Man, we lose one freakin’ game, and suddenly TSN is fixated on the Flyers, as though THEY were the last Canadian team standing. No wonder we declare ourselves a distinct society here in Quebec. The rest of the country tries so hard to ignore us. 

  239. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Dude ,are you mowing down on Sensi or Indica?

  240. J. Ambrose says:

    I would be far less a-feared if’n our PP was clicking. Then I’d gleefully rub my hands in anticipation of the bagfull of goals resulting from the Flea-ers’ series of bonehead penalties. But without repercussions, its open season on those cute little Habbies.

  241. FSUPhi1584 says:

    Except for the fact that when you talk about how Philly is bigger than Mtl, it mostly has to do with muscle mass. Pouliot may be 6’3″, but Hartnell has more size. Hartnell is much harder to move than Pouliot.

    Then there’s also the fact that 6’5″ O’Byrne wasn’t used. If JM really wants MAB then sit Darche. The analysts on versus were saying that MAB’s shoulder doesn’t seem to be fully healed because his shot has lost velocity. If thats the case then bench him, and consider using Markov as the 7th D man

  242. ManApart says:

    That sure worked out great. The team isn’t even that great defensively. JM instilled a decent team defensive concept, but if Halak isn’t miraculous, it’s nothing to go crazy over. BTW, Gomez has got to do sometning, I mean the Habs are paying him 7+ million a season. His game is just not up to par lately.

  243. SeriousFan09 says:

    He was a hothead who took bad penalties, passed to the opposition in his own zone way too often and his concept of clearing the crease was push other guy onto the goalie and help him score. He always felt like he had something to prove at his height and it got him into trouble. MTL was paying him 1.8 before he left and I doubt he was taking a million-dollar discount, he’s 750k for the Predators because he was a training camp tryout and needed to sign somewhere.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  244. Clay4bc says:

    Don’t sweat it, man. We aren’t all so xenophobic that we can’t tolerate differing viewpoints.Especially when they are respectfully delivered like yours are. Cheers to you.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Francois Laignelot –

  245. G-Man says:

    Teams that don’t trap lose in the playoffs.

  246. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    If it is such a no-brainer that he’d be a great GM, why doesn’t have at least have an assistant GM job yet?

    money and job security.

    Ask Boone about Mcguire. Boone knows what I’m talking about.

    Don’t misunderstand me – you know your hockey well. Maybe even very well.


    Serious Fan, spend the next 20 years studying the game full time, every aspect of it, local and international, and then call me in the year 2030.

    I’ll still only be 65 so I won’t be too out of it yet.

    In 2030, you can compare notes with Pierre Mcguire, and Bob Mckenzie, and those guys.


  247. Mr. Biter says:

    Didn’t know that. Any confirmation from anyone elso about MAB’s injury. If his shoulder is injured and affecting his shot then he should sit. Interesting Versus picks it up but the peoples network has no clue.

  248. Mr. Biter says:

    Toronto is not the rest of the country. Go Habs Go from Manitoba.

    If you are able to watch the game on Versus. The announcers are heads above the CBC’s/TSN’s and no real noticable bias towards any team.

  249. habsman-itoba says:

    I don’t trust him/her.  It’s the old lulling us into a false sense of security.  Then  WHAMMO!.  Just like the Habs are doing to the flyers.  Watch your back. 

  250. adam76 says:

    Its as fake as a three dollar bill.

  251. 0-3To4-3 says:

    I’m a little torn on Carter coming back during this series.  I know that probably sounds ridiculous, but I have visions of Eric Lindros dancing in my head.  I still think that we would have won that conference final against NJ in 2000 had he been held out of the lineup.  Maybe if we’re down in the series ala Gagne coming back in G4 against Boston, I’ll change my mind, but the team, as is, had great chemistry going right now with all for lines doing their jobs.  Laperriere is a little different because he doesn’t change anything with the top 3 lines and would be a great upgrade on the PK and protect guys like Giroux, Richards, and Gagne from playing too many minutes while down a man. In an ideal world, the Flyers win this series without him and work him back into the lineup with some practice time before the finals start.

  252. FSUPhi1584 says:

    I think the PP is something that should be
    focused on more than usual
    in this series because there will be a lot of them.

    I’d like to
    see them use an overload for one wave and umbrella for another to keep
    the Flyers guessing. On the Umbrella, I’d like to see Spacek or Subban
    as the D man in the high slot, Gomez and Metropolit (He does have 10 PP
    goals in the reg season) down low, and Gionta and MAB playing near the
    upper circles with MAB on the right side. Then an overload can be used
    with Subban/Spacek, Hamrlik, Pleks, AK, and Cammy.

  253. stevied123 says:

    I have one question WHERE IS BENOIT POULIOT??  because i could have sworn we traded him for guillaume latendresse a little  while back,,,,,  The canadiens can ill afford to start playing the flyers game ,,,, keep it fast and gritty and we will win!

  254. MontrealAtheist says:

    I hope someone told Jacques Martin that he can also take timeouts in critical situations.

    That’s what Laviolette did during the Bruins game when the Flyers were behind 0-3 and that’s what good coaches do.

  255. Fansincebirth says:

    I really don’t think a timeout would have helped things on Sunday. The boys just weren’t in it….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  256. roblack says:



    Anytime you open a series in the other guys barn,coming away with a split is considered good. We win tonight,come back to Montreal 1-1,the bandwagon loads up again.

  257. Fansincebirth says:

    Why is it when someone from another team joins in our conversations and is knowledgeable about hockey, not dissing anyone that eventually someone on here gets down in the dirt and starts bad mouthing him?

    Save your venom for the ones who get on here and start shovelling the garbage on us….be the bigger person for a change.

    If the person isn’t chucking it at us, why should we chuck it at them? Not like they’re stealing secrets or anything….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  258. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Please JM

    No MAB tonight

    No Pouliot tonight

    Put in SK and OB

    No dumb undisciplined penalties tonight

    Halak will bounce back tonight…..not that CP would have faired any better on Sunday.

    Go Habs Go

    Bring back Roger Doucet ala Kate Smith for the National anthem on Thursday


    Habs in 6 or 7

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