Nice win!

Martin lauds Weber

About yesterday afternoon …

Gomez as a checker?

• Tim Thomas was amazing, but Leafs helped Habs

The greatest player in the world is on fire

Michael Farber remembers Jim Kelley

And because we are fans of the greatest goaltender in the league and can afford to be magnanimous, check out Thomas’s miraculous save

And then CP’s on Chad Larose



  1. VancouverHab says:

    That’s just what it isn’t.

    You have the opposite problem to SD: your syllogism has an invalid form (it is illogical), but it may be true.

    I mean that: for all I know it may be true. However, you can’t know if it is true either. There is no way of knowing if we would be better, or worse, without scott Gomez. But wisdom (which it is always sensible to appeal to) says that changing a successful situation is always risky, and therefore, absent certainty, not worth the risk. (The folk aphorism is ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.’)

  2. VancouverHab says:

    SD: don’t try to teach your grandmother how to suck eggs.

    The syllogism is in a perfectly valid form. Your objection is that it’s not true, which is a matter of fact and thus unrelated to logic.

    (Just like this: All cows are hens; Lulubelle is a cow; therefore Lulubelle is a hen. Valid but false.)

  3. FormalWare says:

    Ryane Clowe! NOW you’re talking! What a stud he is!

  4. FormalWare says:

    It’ll be topped as soon as Kiprusoff decides it’s time to practice his hackey-sack skills, again. As much as I adore Carey Price (mostly because I adore the Habs), the reigning prince of “OMG, WTF, did you see That?!?!” is Kipper–and he’s got 2/3 of a season to retain his title.

  5. WestHab says:

    I was never a fan of Cole.  But then I was spoiled by the greatest, Danny Gallavan. No one has ever touched him.

  6. Bob Dobbs says:

    Thanks for the clarifications.

  7. christophor says:


    oh i see SmartDog point out this is horrible reasoning.

    i suggest a critical thinking class. you can take one in first year university, in some high schools, and even in some workplace seminars. 

    ugh, and you just had to go further with your bad logic by being a logic-douche about it.


  8. Chris says:

    There was some talk in the Capitals’ blogs a couple weeks back that Boudreau might need to sit Ovechkin, who was looking a bit disinterested.  That was right before he and Kovalchuk were ovherheard laughing (the nerve of the guy, have a chat with a friend from home after a hockey game loss!  He should have been in the dressing room shoving metal shaving up his fingernails!) during a Boudreau press conference.

    As you say, I actually think that both Ovechkin and Green are growing up and realizing that if they ever actually want to win a Stanley Cup, they need to change their game a bit.  I don’t expect either guy to become a defensive stalwart, but I think they are recognizing the value of playing within a team structure and are working at it.

    That being said, I won’t be shocked at all if Ovechkin in particular starts to dramatically pick up his scoring pace as we approach the All-Star break, knowing that the playoffs are nearing.

    I think Ovechkin is already top 3 (him, Crosby and Datsyuk) amongst the forwards and I don’t know that he can pass those other guys.  But he CAN improve a lot, and that scares the living heck out of me as a Habs fan in an Eastern Conference that features a pair of young superstars (Crosby and Ovechkin) surrounded by some superstar supporting players (Green and Backstrom in Washington, Malkin and a budding star in Letang in Pittsburgh) that still haven’t really entered their prime…

  9. kempie says:


    1. What do you do with PK? How about leave Weber in and put PK on the 4th line.  If not – what?

    I would rotate 7 guys through the lineup and give the old geezers & Josh a day off every few games. If they don’t need it yet, they will. There will be an injury and it would be nice to have a fresh, confident, familiar guy who can easily step in.

    2. Timo has suggested that JM doesn’t like PK.  True or false?  Is there anyone JM treats unfairly or preferentially?

    False. I think JM is being especially careful with him because the world is watching. For all the heat he takes about young players, he is doing a great job with Price, Eller and PK. When you’re the keeper of all that young talent in Montreal, you’ve got your hands full. I think JM is determined to make PK a Hall-of-Famer.

    3. Gomez as checking line center. For or against?

    Isn’t that sorta what he’s been doing anyway? I say semantics; Halpern is more the definitive checking centre and Plex isn’t too shabby either.

    4. If Gomez IS moved to the 2nd or 3rd line, who’s a more likely 2nd line center: Eller or Halpern.

    Halp. More experience counts for a lot between those two right now.

    5. We know which goalie is better, but which spectacular save was better, Price on Larose or Thomas on Beauchemin?

    Easily Price. It was so sick that he laughed as hard as anybody watching.


  10. captaink4life says:

    Pittsburgh will be losing their 2nd line centre, therefore they will need a player who can immediately fill that void for them. I’m not saying that they’d want to take on Gomez’s contract, just that they can if they trade Malkin. The upside for Pittsburgh would be all the young talent they’d get in the swap. Make it enticing enough and they may just think about it.


    You will always be a Canadien in my eyes, Saku

  11. punkster says:

    Someone suggested this last night and at first I thought, that’s crazy talk. But why not,eh? Why the heck not give it a go for shits and giggles. It’s not like he’ll suck there.

    So now I have to ask myself, am I too fueled up on Sunday morning coffee? Am I nuts to be agreeing with you Stephen? Actually liking your idea Stephen? Let’s put it out there to the commentariat. I’ll post the questions above.

  12. krob1000 says:

    The team is winning….I think the scary thing is he might just be learning how to help his team win and not help his endorsements and image.  I think Ovechkin has been paying prett well in the handful of games I have seen…using his shot to draw guys to him but instead of always firinghe is quite often moving the puck and distributing the wealth.  That clip they showed the other night of him turning down the empty netter to feed it to Backstrom that Cherry showed is more telling than it appears…guys do that stuff all the time….that guy they call Ovie…doesn;t….Ovie may be grwoing up.  IT’s funny Crosy has no wingers and no talent surrounding him so he hasws decided to be a goalscorer… Ovechkin after watching Crfosby win everything in the world is starting to learn that the sport is played as a team and individual skill and results are secondary to team succes.  Semin has 18 goals…but at the end of the day the Caps are having a great year…and realistically…..Ovie will be top5 if not top2 by years end…..but he’s learning…and Chris….that is scary.

  13. Ayan_SB says:

    Why would anyone want to take on Gomez’s contract? I don’t get it.

  14. Malreg says:

    Lol…  Pittsburgh isn’t trading Malkin, and we aren’t trading for him.

    The return for a player like Malkin would be more like:

    Cammalleri, Kostitsyn, Leblanc, Weber, 1st 2011, 1st 2012,

  15. keepthefaith says:

    He was probably not very well liked because he f@#%ed up so much on the ice and never got sat. The boys probably thought he was sleeping with JM .

  16. j2w4habs25 says:

    thats what my grandpa says about him, that is he saving himself for the playoffs – who knows he might just step up his game in the playoffs, only time will tell when that comes. But it would be nice for him to get something going now.

    If the Habs weren’t winning – he would already be tossed to the wolves by now

  17. Ayan_SB says:

    Or we could scratch Lapierre since he doesn’t play on the PK like Pyatt, or on the PP like Darche. He’s the most replaceable player on this team right now, and the Habs can thus go with 7 defensemen for a few games.

  18. captaink4life says:

    Well my reasoning was that if they’re giving up a contract as pricey as Malkins’s then they could afford to take on Gomer’s for the next couple of years. Anyways it was just an interesting thought to consider. Malkin would look pretty good in a Habs jersey IMO



    You will always be a Canadien in my eyes, Saku

  19. Say Ash says:

    Dick Irvin Jr. for me.

  20. blu3chip says:

    It will take a lot to get Malkin, a lot more than Gomez + MaxPac + 1st rounder.

    Unless you have a locker room crisis like in Ottawa, where you can steal a top notch player like Heatley with a low cost, I don’t see Pens trading Malkin for anything less than a promising star prospect plus a couple of high picks, and of course, no huge bad contract going back their way.

  21. HabFab says:

    #1 – I assume if a team snags him on waivers and forces us to pay half his
    salary, this is only when we call him back up, not if we send him down
    in the first place?       You are correct.

    #2 – And Malreq you say anyone with a NMC can be sent down, but I thought you
    couldn’t send down a player if he was a certain age at the time of
    signing?      I would have to look it up but it is either 36 or 38 at time of signing. However it has more to do with not being able to buy them out, have them retire (LTIR not sure of) etc and removing them from your team’s salary cap. In other words, you are stuck with their salary against your cap for the duration. In regards to sending them down, if they refused I suspect the team would still have to pay them so you would be partially correct in your belief.

    #3 – Can Gomez be sent to Europe mid-season?     Gomez can be sent to the AHL, which is the minor league of the NHL. Europe is a misconception in some ways. Huet was going to the AHL, he wouldn’t count against Chicago’s cap but would have to be paid his full NHL salary ($5 ml~). A deal was worked out with a European team in which they pick up around a million$ of his salary and he plays out his contract closer to home. I suspect deal brokered by Huet’s agent.




  22. Storm Man says:

    Im with you on this one, I see OV becoming a much better team player.

  23. Storm Man says:

    Sad but so very true, how could anyone even be thinking about trading PK.

  24. joeybarrie says:

    For a guy who had over 200 points in the NHL by the time he was MaxPacs age, I am afriad that MaxPac wouldn’t even make a ripple in what we would need to give up in order to get him. In fact I don’t think we have any players that would get Malkin. Probably Price, Eller and PK with Fleury and Lovejoy coming the other way.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  25. Thomas says:

    Great game by our Habs yesterday.  I still love seeing Eller skate past everyone an stealing that puck from Niemi, that boy loves to compete!

    Kind of off topic, but I’ve been watching the highlights on CBC, and I know alot of people are saying Bob Cole is over the hill, or loosing his marbles etc….But I just love hearing his rising voice and then SCORE!!  Think its cause I grew up listening to him.  Just sounds like the perfect hockey voice to me.

    That is all.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pretty much, there’s a few loons out there who think the Habs need to be 100% Quebecois. Even though that team would completely suck.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  27. Storm Man says:

    Im not sure if you want to take the Cowboys with the 5.5 pts. Colts are one pissed off team after what our Chargers did to them last Sunday. The tough games to pick this weekend are Ravens vs Steelers and Jets vs Pats… Chargers by 10 today :).

  28. mrhabby says:

    no need to panic..yes thats true. but long term there is bound to be an effect on the team and the defense without markov around. Not sure i want to have the present corps start the playoffs although we did well last year. the older guys are getting longer in the tooth. I hope PG is looking at some DMEN but not many around of quality.

  29. mrhabby says:

    no need to panic..yes thats true. but long term there is bound to be an effect on the team and the defense without markov around. Not sure i want to have the present corps start the playoffs although we did well last year. the older guys are getting longer in the tooth. I hope PG is looking at some DMEN but not many around of quality.

  30. JIMVINNY says:

    Thanks Bugs.  So is that meant to say the caller would rather have a home-grown (francophone) player than Subban?

  31. ABHabsfan says:

    Clearly Malkin is a blue-chip player that any team would love to have. I am not sure he would fit with the Habs’ style however. The Habs’ are winnning because they play every shift like it is the last, or at least they are supposed to. To get him would require 2 roster players plus a prospect and/or high pick IMO. Steep price, too steep I think. It is unlikely they would take Gomez, but he was quite good against the Pens in the play-offs last year so you never know.

  32. K-hab25 says:

    Not really, Price came from farther away to rob Larose on the lip of the crease, Thomas just kinda lunged his little pudgy body out at a shot from 15 feet away. Both were great saves, but Price’s was better.

  33. Bugs says:


    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  34. blu3chip says:

    He has 23 assists (2nd in league), 34 points (3rd in league). He is becoming a better team player, so unless the Russian Bear goes back to his old form, he will be harder to play against in the next Olympics.

  35. Ayan_SB says:

    Haha that’s funny, Gomez, a prospect and first round pick for Malkin.

    They’d want Eller, probably even Subban in return.

  36. JIMVINNY says:

    I understand french well enough, but I don’t quite get the slang of “pur laine”.  What is the slang equivalent?

  37. blu3chip says:

    Gomez is in a slump, there is no doubt about it. Same applies to Cammy, our playoffs hero, and captain Gionta.

    But I don’t think we should hang someone for doing poorly in 20 games or so. It is not just Gomez, our highest paid players didn’t have a great start overall. Even the most talented players go into slumps time to time. Our team is still winning (not by fluke either), give them some time to work out the chemistry.

  38. captaink4life says:

    Dare I say that now would be an excellent time for the Habs to make a play for Malkin. He’s having a subpar season stats-wise (which is a relative statement because I’m sure Gomer would love to have 22 points in 26 games haha) and Crosby is on a ridiculous tear right now. 

    Thoughts? What would you be willing to give up for him?

    Gomez + MaxPac + 2011 1st round pick?


    You will always be a Canadien in my eyes, Saku

  39. ZepFan2 says:

    That one was extraordinary, and the save on Beauchemin was sorta like Price’.

    There, I fixed it for ya’! 😉


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  40. showey47 says:

    Thats why i said “team who spend to the salary cap,acutal salary is irrelevent” not teams that don’t. It is obviously the opposite for the teams that hang around the cap floor. Look at the islanders,their highest paid forward on the payroll hasn’t played for them for 4 years.

  41. SmartDog says:

    Even BETTER!

    A. We are winning.

    B. I’ve been hounding Gomez all year.

    C. We’re winning because I’ve been hounding Gomez all year!

    This by the way is a logical fallacy.  Philosophy 101.

  42. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

     I’d go with the Colts then, Manning should bounce back.

  43. ABHabsfan says:

    It drive’s me nuts when I hear the suggestions that the Habs should get MAB or Guerin in their line-up. These guys are sitting at home for a reason, there are 29 other teams, 25 of whom are BEHIND the Habs in the overall standings, who don’t want these guys. If a move is to be made, and I do believe it should, good players on underachieving teams should be the target. Wait until the Flames get both feet in the tank then go after Boumeester. If the Sharks continue to be out of the play-off picture then I would love to have Clowe on the Habs.

  44. SmartDog says:

    Gotta hand it to Gauthier.  Darch, Halpern, Picard… all good moves.  Eller looks like he might be quite the pick up as well.  I’m surprised overall. 

    Slightly related… it’s odd how Halak’s numbers have suddenly taken a dive.  I wonder if it’s the workload or the fame.  He’ll come back but in a twisted way it’s good luck for Eller and the Habs.



  45. SmartDog says:

    Halpern has been good and Darche, suprisingly good.

  46. light_n_tasty says:

    If Gomez was playing like a “solid 2nd line centre…if not the 1st line”, then I would agree, we are overpaying for him, but sometimes you gotta (what’s Koivu making though?).

    But, he’s not playing like a second line centre.  Essentially, we are using up 7.357 mil on a checker who doesn’t check. Kinda sucks.

  47. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I think you’d have a hard time to find someone who would dissagree with you on Gomez being overpaid, but it’s the constant reminders about Gomez that gets the ‘defenders’ annoyed. You keep whinning, but what is your solution? Do you have one? Forget fact and logic, that’s too easy, forget about bashing G&G for picking up his contract, that’s too easy too, what would you do right now with Gomez? Can’t tradehim, can’t send him down. Right now patience is the key, we can afford patience cause they’re winning. They obviously hope he’ll turn it around and contribute like he did late last year and into the playoffs. What would be your plan?

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