NHL cancels games through November

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The National Hockey League cancelled all games through Nov. 30  on Friday afternoon. The announcement means that a total of 326 games have now been cancelled, or just over a quarter of the season. No formal labour talks are scheduled, either.

The NHLPA sent out the following news release shortly after the NHL’s announcement:

NHLPA STATEMENT FROM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DON FEHR  

TORONTO (October 26, 2012) – Don Fehr, National Hockey League Players’ Association Executive Director, released the following statement regarding the NHL’s decision to withdraw its October 16, 2012 proposal and cancel further regular season games:

“The league officially informed us today that they have withdrawn their latest proposal and have cancelled another slate of regular season games. This is deeply disappointing for all hockey fans and everyone who makes their living from hockey, including the players.  But it comes as no surprise. 

Last week the owners gave us what amounts to a “take-it-or-leave-it” proposal.  We responded with the framework for three proposals on the players’ share, each of which moved significantly, towards their stated desire for a 50-50 split of HRR, with the only condition being that they honour contracts they have already signed. Honouring contracts signed between owners and players is a reasonable request. Unfortunately, after considering them for only 10 minutes they rejected all of our proposals.  

Since then, we have repeatedly advised the owners that the players are prepared to sit down and negotiate on any day, with no pre-conditions.  The owners refused.  They apparently are only interested in meeting if we first agree to everything in their last offer, except for perhaps a few minor tweaks and discussion of their “make whole” provision.  

The message from the owners seems to be: if you don’t give us exactly what we want, there is no point in talking.  They have shown they are very good at delivering deadlines and demands, but we need a willing partner to negotiate.  We hope they return to the table in order to get the players back on the ice soon.”

End of statement.

In other lockout news, U.S. President Barack Obama weighed in this week, urging the NHL and its players to resolve their dispute.

“Every time these things happen I just want to remind the owners and players: You guys make money because you’ve got a whole bunch of fans out there who are working really hard — they buy tickets, they’re watching on TV,” Obama said during an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Wednesday. “You all should be able to figure this out. Get this done. The fans deserve it.”

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In other puck news, Quebec’s minor-hockey association has handed down a decade-long suspension to a midget-level coach who took a swing at a 16-year-old player last weekend. Read more by clicking here.

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75 Comments

  1. Hoegaarden says:

    240 players were let go (retired, bought out, cut etc) after the 04-05 lockout (CBC sports news). If this is not sorted out and the season is canned, how many will end up the same way ?

  2. Ian Cobb says:

    The players will break first, most are so far in debt, they might not make it past Christmas.
    The owners are in this fight to the death!. They can afford to sit on their hands until spring and further if need be. The owners will get their deal and for the long term! This is a once and for all time war.

    • HabFab says:

      I do agree with you that it is war. Fehr wasn’t brought in to lose or compromise or negotiate but to WIN! The owners realize this and have their own strategy to counter.

    • wjc says:

      Having rum and coke with owners…..players in debt…really!!

      No way they could afford to pay cash for their cars.

      Living paycheck to paycheck, sure!!!

      wjc

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Wilfred!
        No coke, it was straight up my friend!
        They all live above their heads. Only the top 15% of them are solid financially. Out of debt.

        • wjc says:

          Ian, if you are still listening or reading, I would recommend you cut back on the straight rum.

          Only 15% are solid financially, how did you come across this statistic.

          Do you have access to each players personal financial numbers.

          Ask yourself if you were handed a couple of million or a couple of hundred thousand dollars, would you be in debt.

          Oh well, cheers my friend (touches rum glass) may we all have vivid imaginations, my regards to your owner friends as well.

          wjc

    • commandant says:

      2004-05 was supposed to be a once and for all war

      Never underestimate human greed

      Go Habs Go!
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  3. superkev420 says:

    Just wondering if anyone is watching the hamilton bulldogs game tonight. Would it be possible to have a live blog going on for it? Im stuck at work tonight and would like to know whats going on.

    Thanks guys

  4. jols101 says:

    So if it is Markov’s knee again what happens? He got injured playing in the KHL so what are the rules? Does insurance cover his contract with Montreal and are the Habs off the hook for his 5.75 million cap hit?

    • Mark C says:

      You seem like the kind of guy who likes carts…

      • jols101 says:

        I don’t get it lol. Just wondering if anyone knows the rules for a player getting injured playing in a different league. Carts???

        • Mark C says:

          I think some people are putting the cart before the horse here. A whole lot of jumping to conclusions without knowing what’s hurt and how bad the injury is.

          To answer your questions, it all depends on how bad it is. If he misses games then insurance would cover the contract and Montreal could place him on LLIR.

          • jols101 says:

            Ahhh, funny stuff. Ya I am definitely jumping to a worst case outcome without knowing any of the details. I really hope it is nothing serious and am looking forward to an update.

    • wjc says:

      Somewhere some farmer is missing his cart.

      wjc

    • English is not a Crime says:

      They’d be off the hook because it was an injury that occured outside of the NHL. The players overseas had to get insurance for their contracts in case they were to be injured, so that they could get insurance to cover the money they’d lose from their NHL deals because of it.

  5. Habsbill24 says:

    Well, they cancelled my interest in the season as well. I am not into Art Ross Trophy winners with 45 points or leading goal scorers with 15 goals. Bettman has been a jerk since he arrived, arrogant as they get with his stupid head bob and spin doctor BS about how they have fixed the game, we are the greatest fans, blah, blah blah. I am not interested in being pissed on by them anymore, giving them my dollars (that is all they care about after all) no matter how they destroy the game all in the name of increasing HRR. This season is over, I will be back in October if they get their act together. Who cares who wins the Cup this year as it would be a hollow victory anyway. Please, let us all not buy anymore NHL stuff, watch on TV and make a statement that these negotiations actually have three parties, the owners, the players and the most important group that supplies 100% of the revenue, the fans. We are the only ones not represented. Start boycotting NHL sponsor products so the dummies start to get it.

    • wjc says:

      So you are not going to give them your dollars until they come back.

      They used to win the cup in a 30 game season, then a 36 game season, then a 44 game season, then a 48 game season, then a 50 game season…remember 50 goals in 50 games…then a 60 game season, then a 70 game season, 76 game season , then an 80 game season.

      The only reason they could make the season longer was improvement in ice making, freezing etc.

      When they could travel by plane, instead of trains they expanded further away and played more games.

      Now they would go year around if they could get away with it. Come to think about it they probably could.
      wjc

  6. twilighthours says:

    Poor, poor Markov. If it’s his knee, I hope he retires.

    As for the NHL… Nope, I still don’t miss it.

  7. mark-ID says:

    I wonder if he can come back and rehab with Habs training squad since he injured himself in Russia? Probably not

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  10. mark-ID says:

    If it is his knee again…I hope and pray he will retire. Thank god he only has two years left.

  11. mark-ID says:

    Markov injured…as many are reporting via twitter. No saying what the injury is. Any wagers on whether or not it is his knee ?

  12. HabFab says:

    First CHL team players applied for Union certification with Labour Boards and one player is filing for violations to minimum wage laws.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      The league and the players have gone about this entire situation wrong. I am more angry with the owners and Bettman this time but the fact remains there is absolutely no reason there should be a lock out. They are fighting over the money we spend on the NHL. It is simple to many fans….don’t spend it on them anymore or spend less.

      Greed and arrogance is getting to be a bit much

      • JF says:

        Agreed. The owners and players both are treating the fans with absolute contempt. The only way we can have any impact on the way these idiots go about things is to not give them our money. It’s all they want from us, so don’t give it to them. Watch the games at home on TV or go to a bar. Don’t buy tickets. Don’t buy any NHL merchandise.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I agree 100%. I won’t be buying any NHL merch this year and have told my family the same for Christmas. I will watch games on TV only. I worked damn hard for my cash and they have enough that they can apparently crap on the people who give it to them

  13. Timo says:

    I thought about it for a second and nope… still don’t care.

    On the other hand I really enjoy this site – http://www.thechive.com

  14. bleedhabs81 says:

    Hey,

    I usually pop on once a day, skim really quick and then leave.

    Has there been any more information as to why Max Pac came home? It sounded like it was going to be a juicy story but I never saw a follow up.

  15. HabFab says:

    What does NBC have to say about the lock out;
    http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comments/nbc-on-the-lockout?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    And the final sentence say’s way more…

  16. shiram says:

    I don’t have the talent with words that my fellow HIOers have, but when it comes to hockey this season don’t ever say die!

    • Bripro says:

      Are you joining our HIO gospel choir, Shiram?

      *********************************************
      “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

  17. JF says:

    This whole process is looking suspiciously scripted. There were indications as early as last fall that the NHL planned to lock the players out when the CBA expired. Everything that has happened since these so-called negotiations began suggests that the plan was nothing less than to break the union, just as it was broken eight years ago. The League opened hostilities by presenting a scorched-earth offer that no one in their right mind would have accepted and that served mainly to antagonize the players and ensure that the negotiations became a confrontation. Everything the League has done since has further antagonized the players. Today, instead of continuing to cancel games in two-week slices, they wipe out the whole month of November. This aggressive move sends the message, “See what you get when you refuse our offer? Yesterday you could have had a full season; now you lose two months.” I expect the plan is to test the players’ resolve again about mid-November once they’ve missed three pay cheques.

    Maybe the League still hopes to have some kind of season, perhaps beginning early in December; or maybe this whole thing is nothing more than a media show, and they didn’t expect the players to accept any of their offers. I think, as I’ve thought all along, that it depends on how the owners feel about the Winter Classic and its sidekick TV show, which are in some ways the central publicity event of the season. If they feel the Winter Classic is important to continuing to grow the game in the States, they’ll try to save the rest of the season. If they think they can easily recoup what they lose in revenues and in their American fan-base (and they’re so arrogant they might well think this), I suspect they’ll be willing to scrap the entire season in order to force the players to accept something not a lot better than their initial offer. At the moment the players are willing to accept 50/50, provided existing contracts are honoured. When this mess is finally sorted out, I suspect they’ll find themselves settling for less than 50% as well as a significant salary rollback, in addition of course to losing part or all of their salary this season. And I think this whole scenario is exactly what the League wanted.

  18. Fehr is leading the players down a very dangerous road…Fehr better smarten up and cut a deal fast or he’s going to be the next Goodenow…

    He sounds all tough and smart today but history will show this toughness will end up costing the players dearly…
    Telio
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    • Kooch7800 says:

      The owners won’t sit down either….that doesn’t show the players that they want to deal.

      Fehr is a problem yes but Bettman is just as much. They are both the worst thing that could happen to hockey.

      I personally could give a crap less anymore about this years season. I am still a habs fan but my patience with the way this league has been run for years is really starting to get tested. There is absolutely no reason why there should be a lockout

  19. mdp2011 says:

    I can’t believe that the NHL is stupid enough to cancel entire season again, but I think that is where it is going. I just don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. Bettman and Fehr are the two most despicable people in all of sports. Bettman will have 2 canceled seasons on his hands and Fehr is the one who took a World Series away from the Expos. Let them both burn in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Bripro says:

    The auction steak dinner through ebay is now up to $2,075, with 4 days to go.
    And Gorges has been added to the guest list.

    *********************************************
    “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

  21. Ugh.. hockey is my only escape from depression. Sigh.

  22. Cal says:

    Fehr should negotiate based on the owners’ proposal, not the other way around. Round 1 ends for Lost Season II. Way to go, Gary and Don. You are real professional. Professional a-holes.

    • Bripro says:

      But they “truly feel bad for all the fans”…. yeah… OK.

      *********************************************
      “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

  23. Bripro says:

    Dave Stubbs tweeted earlier that there will be
    “Full wide-ranging one-on-one with #Habs captain Brian Gionta will be online at http://hockeyinsideout.com at 5 pm ET this afternoon”
    Live? How does that work on this site?

    *********************************************
    “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

  24. Bripro says:

    First! …. on a thread with some hockey-related news.
    That should keep some of you happy, for a little while.

    And now that my computer guru has fixed my server as well as our back up, I could theoretically travel to Hamilton for the game….
    Arrive there at 9:30…. hmmm.
    Eh, maybe next time.
    Enjoy, boys! See you next time.

    *********************************************
    “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

    • shiram says:

      “We’ll have our own summit, with blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the Summit!”

      • Bripro says:

        I’m in! Woo Hoo …. Guinness and tushies! Sounds like a plan.

        *********************************************
        “I’m here to tell you: Gary Bettman hasn’t felt this alive since he killed Harry Potter’s parents.”

  25. commandant says:

    Fehr had one work stoppage (that actually cost regular season games) in 23 years as head of the MLBPA

    Bettman has 3 lockouts in the last 17 years and has lost more games to those lockouts than the other 3 major sports combined

    Go Habs Go!
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  26. English is not a Crime says:

    Unbelievable that this is Bettman’s 4th work stoppage and people still blame Fehr because he was involved in one (the fewest of the big four by the way)


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