NHL cancels games through Dec. 30

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 If hockey fans were hoping to get the NHL back as a Christmas present, it won’t happen.

The league played Grinch on Monday afternoon, announcing that the earliest a shortened NHL season will start is Dec. 31. The league cancelled another 104 regular-season games through Dec. 30, bringing the total number wiped away by the lockout to 526. That represents nearly 43 per cent of the season.

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Meanwhile, former Canadien Roman Hamrlik has re-affirmed his support of the NHLPA after making negative comments recently.

“Maybe some people they took it too personal,” Hamrlik told TSN.

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103 Comments

  1. Riga Fraction says:

    What do you get if you cross a US basketball lawyer with a US baseball lawyer?

    Apparently not a whole lot of anything.

  2. HabFab says:

    Good and bad news off twitter with the NHL and NHLPA talking about the next negotiating session;
    – the PA can have as many players present as they desire
    – the Fehrs will be there
    – no owners however will be attending this one
    – Gary and Bill send their regrets

  3. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Do we still get the loser point if the games are cancelled?

  4. HabFab says:

    Stu Hackel always puts a song in with his article, this was the one last Thursday…a day that will live in infamy;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AttVSJpAb2M&feature=player_embedded

  5. SmartDog says:

    Reposting from Bipro below.
    Man, I wish I was as articulate as this guy. He NAILS it!:
    ——-
    By Anaheim’s Craig Lowell:
    http://thefanhub.com/posts/detail/825351/Can-Donald-Fehr-and-Gary-Bettman-just-go-away

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Bripro says:

      You dog…. riding my coat tails. ;)
      Thanks for the compliment. I’ve been called many things, but articulate?

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        I’ll take it a step farther and actually paste a few lines from the article.

        “…[T]he owners either A) hate Donald Fehr so much that they’ll submarine any offer that he’s a part of out of spite, or B) they’ll only negotiate if they can do so against people completely unqualified for such a task.

        Either way, the idea the owners are negotiating in good faith has become a pretty laughable notion.”
        – Some Guy

  6. Billy Bob says:

    hockey cancelled through decmber..may as well just get it over with and cancell the whole season..this makes the players look bad..

    habsman

  7. HabFab says:

    Interesting survey results in Atlantic Canada on which side do you support in the Lock-out…from 1500+ responders.
    Owners 9%
    Players 12%
    Neither 79%

    The majority has spoken and the will of the people is… a pox on both their houses!

  8. habstrinifan says:

    You read twitter and the comments from fans like those in Bripro post and you realize ONE THING. Bettman and Fehr and every damn NHL player and owner knows that he does not have to worry one little bit. Ring the bell at midnight on April 1st and tell us there will be a 3 game seaon and every damn hockey fan will run to their rink or TV. Some teams may not have a whole city of fans but owners know the ones they have WILL be back.

    It makes me sick to be such a sap.

  9. 24 Cups says:

    I just voted yes in the poll. Looks like I’m in a very small minority!

  10. Bripro says:

    Two more perspectives on this ongoing insanity….

    USA Today’s Kevin Allen : http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2012/12/10/nhl-games-canceled/1759223/

    And Anaheim’s Craig Lowell:
    http://thefanhub.com/posts/detail/825351/Can-Donald-Fehr-and-Gary-Bettman-just-go-away

    Happy reading.

  11. Riga Fraction says:

    Gary Bettman has now officially lost 2224 regular season NHL games.

    The Montreal Canadiens have lost 2052 regular season NHL games in their history (they are older than the NHL, and only NHL games were counted here for any that feel that number is low).

    The Habs have won 3135 regular season NHL games though, I wonder if Bettman will keep going until he matches that number.

    Well done Gary, you’ve lost more reg season NHL games in 20 years than the Habs have lost in 95! Of course, this is all Fehr’s fault though…

    • Dust says:

      Its not just Bettmans or Fehrs fault. It’s both of their faults. I’m so sick of people picking sides and then fighting to the death for that side. BOTH sides have messed up these negotiations. BOTH sides are the reason we are not having hockey.
      Have fun arguing over who is a little more to blame. They both are. F them both. Make a deal…F

      • Riga Fraction says:

        I disagree, this one is 100% on the guy that refuses (and always has refused) to negotiate. He’s not trying to negotiate a deal, he’s trying (once again) to break the union and put everyone back in line like good little boys. That’s his fault and not the guys who have had enough and said screw you in response to him this time around finally.

    • wjc says:

      Riga, Gary Bettman and owners have cancelled games…..important to realize.

      You can only see one side of this. Some might say biased opinion.

      wjc

  12. shiram says:

    For PC gamers, THQ is having an “humble bundle”. Basically you can a number of games for a low low price. You decide what you want to pay, and can even decide where your money goes, to THQ, to a charity or to the people running the humble bundle site.

    It’s only PC games, but it could make for a great gift. Games included are Warhammer 40K : Dawn of War, Saints Row the third, Titan Quest, Red Faction, Darksiders, Metro 2033, Company of heroes and 2 expansions.
    http://www.humblebundle.com/

  13. jedimyrmidon says:

    Here’s my meta-view of affairs:

    The NHLPA and NHL are battling it out within a plane of existence in which the fans are willing to pay good money to watch NHL hockey, attend games and become invested in the success of their teams (up here in Canada anyways). Also within this plane are the lucrative television deals that can be handed out, something that is a bit more difficult in the States with the MLB, NFL, NBA and other sports and something requires a strong, healthy league with growing popularity.

    There was a general feeling that the NHL was on the rise with greater profits, increased interest in various markets, etc. They were gaining momentum. It’s kind of ironic that momentum also plays a critical role in the game of hockey where the consequences of losing that momentum can be costly (see: Habs of 2012 failing to maintain the lead in the 3rd period). In the same way, the NHL and NHLPA are fighting over capital that may simply dwindle due to lost momentum, and set the league back 5 years.

    All of this to say, time is of the essence in making a new deal. Time that they have thus far wasted and are using as a weapon against each other, holding each other hostage until the pot they’re fighting over is back to where it was during the last lockout. The sad thing is, they’ll probably do this the next time as well in the name of fighting for the interests of future owners/players, crusaders of justice.

  14. JF says:

    I think the NHL planned right from the start to scrap as much as half the season to get the agreement they want. The money-losing franchises will actually save money, and Bettman and Daly are confident – or were at the start of this mess – that the fans would come flocking back in even greater numbers the moment the rinks opened because it happened last time (I don’t think it will this time.) However, I don’t think they’re prepared to lose a full season; they realize the league’s image, not to mention its coffers and fan base, would take too big a hit. A deal will be reached, but I expect the league to keep dragging their feet and orchestrating breakdowns in the talks until the very last minute – i.e., shortly after New Year. A more optimistic scenario would see a deal concluded in the next ten days and the season starting on 1 January, but I don’t see it.

    • Dust says:

      So did the NHLPA they stalled starting of negotiations among other things. BOTH side planned on losing half the year.

      • JF says:

        Yes, the players are delaying, but it is the owners who keep breaking off the negotiations. The players wanted to keep negotiating off the league’s last offer, but Bettman and Daly stormed out (for I think the third time since negotations began).

  15. Bripro says:

    Even though Fehr disgusts me (if for no other reason than having been one of three reasons for the elimination of pro baseball in Montreal) with his fogged perspectives and stories of finger pointing, I feel for the players.
    No, not the salaries and their way of life. That is something, whether they’re playing or not, which will always be there and out of reach from most of us.
    But if you take last week. The players, on their own initiative, visited the Children’s Hospital and will be going the Ste Justine’s this week.
    No one asked them to do that.
    Two are American (Cole and Gionta) and one comes from out west (Gorges). They could be back home with their families, but they believe in community influence.
    How can you stay upset with the players? The only thing I hold against them is their selection of legal representation.

    • shiram says:

      The cynic in me thought it was only a PR stunt, but even if that’s the case, you can’t deny the good it does to the people they visit.

      • Bripro says:

        I don’t think it was Shiram.
        You just have to look at the players’ faces when they succeed in making a wanting child smile. There’s no PR there.
        And if there is, my fault for being gullible, and theirs for doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

      • B says:

        It is a great joy for both the children and the players, an excellent long running tradition. That said, of course they are using it for PR and the timing may be more than coincidental. I went to nhlpa.com today and the first thing there is a huge splash on the players visit to the Montreal Children’s hospital (Bringing smiles to small faces). Again, I don’t want to diminish the incredibly positive results these visits never fail to produce. Typically, many players make frequent and repeated visits to sick children in hospitals, they just usually prefer to be very low key about it. Most often it goes on without any press or fan fare. I truly believe it must be one of the most rewarding things players are fortunate enough to be able to do.

        –Go Habs Go!–

    • PeterD says:

      I think it’s great and shows the quality of humans we have on our team when they go to the Children’s hospital for the kids. Well done you guys.
      Now consider teh Maple Leafs held the same type of day last week and ZERO of their current players showed up for hte kids…Well done Leafs…keep signing douchbags.

    • wjc says:

      Bripro, it is called public relations. Glad the kids benefit though.

      You said it “how could stay upset with the players (so kind, so giving). Public Relations. Owners do stuff too. Goodwill is important, but try to be real.

      wjc

  16. Hobie Hansen says:

    One thing about the lockout is I’ve actually started watching movies, TV shows and even paying some video games. During the NHL season I’m glued to the television watching game after game and have no interest other TV or games.

    Breaking Bad, The Avengers and The Walking Dead were pretty entertaining! And I can see how Call of Duty is so popular cuz it’s a lot of fun to play on the PS3.

    • HardHabits says:

      Not I. I have lost 10 pounds of fat and gained 5 pounds of muscle. I am eating better, exercising regularly and drinking less. I plan on getting in some skiing this winter and if it gets and stays cold enough will play some hockey at my local outdoor rink.

      I hope this goes on for a while and the result being that the league contracts by at least 4 teams and I sincerely hope that Bettman gets turfed. I can’t stand that little weasel.

      • habstrinifan says:

        You sir are the reason to have hockey back! Geez it made me tired just reading all the stuff you need to do to replace the hockey fix.

        I mean let’s be serious. When hockey is on, I come home, announce to the wife that I want to be left alone. Then I go downstairs and read HIO pre-game crap. Then I sweat thru the game with elevated heart rate and metabolic rate. Then I have to wind down. And Badda Boom the night is done. I have worked hard without working hard.

        Your non hockey lifestyle requires too much effort. LOL!

  17. Bripro says:

    Here’s an interesting (disturbing) tweeted perspective:
    “Nine current NHL franchises have played fewer regular season games than Gary Bettman has canceled (2,224).”

    • wjc says:

      Gary Bettman and owners….Bripro. Gary Bettman does not operate in the back of a bowling alley, all alone, plotting the downfall of the NHL. The owners saying “who is the mysterious man, who is doing these bad things.”

      You got to remember Molson has an image to uphold and he is busy making and selling beer. Letting this guy behind the bowling alley take all the heat. Who is that mysterious man….hi ho silver away.

      wjc

  18. Say Ash says:

    When’s the Spengler Cup start? lol

  19. Bripro says:

    Thirty third! Woo Hoo….I’m good.
    No hockey ’till next September (at least) …. not good.

  20. Mattyleg says:

    There are lots of people saying that if/when fans go back, they should boo. As loud and as long as they can.

    Um… who are you booing?
    All of the players?
    All of the owners?
    Some of the players?
    Some of the owners?
    Gary Bettman?
    Donald Fehr?
    The Montreal Canadiens?
    All of them?

    Who is going to know who you are targetting with your intelligent and cleverly-expressed hooting?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      It’s interesting how personal some fans are taking these CBA negotiations. Sure it’s annoying all of us, but I never got angry, maybe frustrated, but that’s it.
      It also feels like an empty gesture to boo while seated in a 40 to 400$ seat at the Bell…

      • Habfan10912 says:

        While as usual I agree with both you and Matty about booing I’m afraid the time they’ve taken from me and my Grandson and Son is personal. Sure I’ll/ we will find other avenues to bond but it won’t be the same as our annual trek to the mecca.
        But as you and Matty both point out, there is no single party to blame. They all share in that equally.
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    • Kooch7800 says:

      The NHL won’t notice the hit in Canada but I am sure in some of the arena’s in the States they will feel it.

      Look at LA. They only support a winner and have been struggling with attendance and were starting to get the fans back. They win the cup and instead of carrying on momentum they have a lock out….what a waste

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Kooch, instead of giving tickets away like they currently do in some less then successful hockey cities maybe they can PAY fans to attend games. You kow just like they pay some people for giving blood. That way when the next CBA expires the sides can fight over how to best SHARE this expense.
        In the end this stoppage seemed to be all about these non hockey market cities.
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        • Kooch7800 says:

          You are bang on about one for sure…this is all about the struggling markets. Phoenix being a glaring example of how not to run a franchise/league

          Would be an interesting change of pace but the same argument on the fighting over the expense.

          I can’t wait to talk about how a player is playing well again or how Scott Gomez hasn’t scored in a year…..so much better than chewing on the same piece of gum since the draft

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • wjc says:

          The stoppage is about have a strong and viable NHL. The players are laughing all the way to the bank, and do not believe otherwise.

          wjc

    • A losing streak at Home will certainly get the boo birds out in a hurry in a short season!!!

      • Mattyleg says:

        People always boo when the Habs lose.
        It’s a pretty silly thing to do, in my opinion.
        Smacks of entitlement.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Bripro says:

          Matty, I don’t know about you, but I find that the boobirds are usually perched in the Molson Ex zone. It probably because of the price of their beer.
          But you’re right. It shows a lack of respect and an indication of the mentality of many.

          • shiram says:

            Bought tickets in the section once, never going to go there again.

          • Bripro says:

            Me neither.
            Bought 4 tickets and took the family.
            I figured I’d save $3-400.
            That area is meant for the 16-25 year old range.
            Anything younger or older, and you leave completely traumatized.

    • A losing record during a shorten season will.

    • HardHabits says:

      I say don’t go back. Fans should not return for at least two seasons. Let these douchebags suffer. I can’t even think about watching NHL hockey. The Bettman era has left me feeling nauseous. I cannot take this league seriously with that snake oil salesman at the helm any more.

      • wjc says:

        Snake oil salesman, selling snake oil made by owners. Players are a bunch of greedy douche bags. They are laughing all the way to the bank month in and month out.

        Bettman is just a handy target. How can you not see this. Owners pay him big money to take the heat, insults, mud balls, arrows and cream pies. Would you do that dirty job for about 8 million dollars.

        Hell yes! Could handle a lot of attacks and deflect blame away from guys like Molson (probably good guy by the way) but he needs the goodwill to sell beer.

        wjc

    • wjc says:

      Booing won’t matter as long as they are all there, with there ticket stubs, hot dog and a warm beer.

      wjc

  21. Hobie Hansen says:

    I wouldn’t care either way if a half season was announced or if it was scrapped altogether. It’s the hanging around to see what happens that makes me feel pathetic. It’s like slowing down on the highway to see an accident.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As 24Cups and others have pointed out, if we don’t get a season, the percentages are against us to get a good draft position. In light of how stacked this draft is, I like our teams chances at draft pick better if we play a season. For that alone I will remain optimistic and hopeful that Donald Fehr can perhaps lighten up on the legacy he is trying to make for himself while he pretends to give a crap about Hockey players. ;-)

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I’m a gambler on occasion. We ended up with Price last time so I’d roll the dice again and test our luck rather than reading and listening to all this lockout crap. Stick a fork in it already…

  22. Timo says:

    Looks like Hammer has been explained the fallacy of his ways.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=411364

  23. Its good to be back. Been away for awhile. Not to much to comment on. Same ole story. Who WINS???? Not us FANS!!!

    If and when hockey returns…….. its going to hurt in a BIG way. It will not take much to hear LOUD boos from us fans. Let our voices be heard LOUDLY. Enough is enough. A VERY unhappy fan here.

  24. Mustang says:

    This season is dying a v e r y s l o w d e a t h. If they do not get back to the bargaining table soon and start seriously working out an agreement, the season is done.

  25. habstrinifan says:

    I am ready to have no hockey this season… if we can get a solid and equitable CBA done.

  26. shiram says:

    I still think there could be a 48 game season.

  27. Propwash says:

    Stick a fork in the season, it’s done.

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  28. GrimJim says:

    First.
    Now there’s nothing else to read so back to the previous thread


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