New year will mark 20th anniversary of Habs’ last Cup

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In his look-ahead column to 2013, The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs notes that next June 11 will mark the 20-year anniversary of the Canadiens’ most recent Stanley Cup parade.

Writes Stubbs: “It’s a remarkable span when you consider that the franchise won 24 Stanley Cups in its first 83 years of existence — an average of one every 3½ years — and then none in the past two decades.”

Stubbs adds: “An entire generation of Canadiens fans has not seen this team win a championship, bringing into sharp relief the words of legendary captain Jean Béliveau in his 1994 autobiography, My Life In Hockey. Following an unprecedented run of five consecutive Stanley Cups from 1956-60, the Habs went without a title from 1961-64 before beating Chicago in ’65 for their 13th Cup.”

“’The Forum fans were Cup-starved,” Béliveau wrote, “and showed their desire to end our four-year drought …”

Writes Stubbs: “The NHL of yore was not that of today’s 30-club league, but if four years in Béliveau’s day constituted a drought, 20 years would be …?”

You can read Stubbs’s column by clicking here.

Gazette sports editor Stu Cowan recently spoke with Jacques Demers, the coach who led the Canadiens to their last Stanley Cup.

“Because it’s the Montreal Canadiens … the tradition and all the Stanley Cups they won … never in my wildest dreams would I think the Montreal Canadiens would go 20 years without winning a Cup,” Demers said over the phone from his Florida condo, where he is spending the holidays. “In ’86 and then ’93, seven years, which is certainly not bad, but 20 years without winning the Cup with the prestigious tradition of that franchise … I never would have thought that.”

You can read Cowan’s column, with Demers looking back on that championship team and speaking about the current squad, by clicking here.

The Gazette’s Pat Hickey says he has grown tired of people asking him: “Do you think there will be NHL hockey this season?”

Writes Hickey: “The only answer I can give is to say I thought the game should have been back on the ice a long time ago. As the lockout continues into the new year, my optimism is waning. What I can say with certainty is that the lockout — the third since 1994 — has done irreparable harm to the business of hockey.”

You can read Hickey’s column looking ahead to 2013 by clicking here.

On Friday, The Canadian Press reported that the NHL made a serious bid to save the season, softening its demands in key areas of collective bargaining with a new proposal to the NHLPA on Thursday night. The offer included compliance buyouts and less restrictive rules on player contracts, according to sources.

A source told The Canadian Press that the deal is contingent on the NHLPA signing off by Jan. 11. Training camps would then open the next day and the season would start Jan. 19.

Read more by clicking here.

Habs alternate NHLPA rep Erik Cole commented via text message to The Gazette’s Stubbs on Friday’s developments:

“I still feel as I’ve felt all along,” Cole wrote. “They have a date in mind or alternate startup dates. And finally we are at their last one.

“I don’t think the owner’s commissioner is foolish enough to cancel another season, but he’s done it before so you have to expect that he’s willing to do it again. But hopefully they are now serious to make a fair deal.

“My answer is yes, there will be hockey if the NHL is willing to, which they haven’t so far, negotiate a serious offer in the next week or so.

“As for their (latest) offer to us: It’s a lot of information to get through – 300 pages will take longer than a day to read through and understand all aspects of it. After we do that, we will get back to them in hopes of reaching an agreement.”

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

164 Comments

  1. habstrinifan says:

    Please do not read the item linked to below as a political story! It does show what “strength of human character” is though. WOW!

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/29/world/africa/us-nigerian-obama-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks for sharing this Trini. After the recent events are planet has endured this story reminds us of the perseverance of man overcoming great obstacles to accomplish great things. My country is better off today because this gentleman is now one of our citizens. Thanks again.

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  2. habstrinifan says:

    P.K.’s discussion (and that’s what it was.. much much enjoyable than a ‘typical interview’) with Elliot re the latest NHL offer and the players’ response was absolutely good radio with a lot of information candidly revealed from an insider…. and P.K did it without trying to dodge questions or superimpose his personal views or assumptions.

    If a Mike Farber or some other renownedly insightful analyst had given this ‘chat’, one could be excused for viewing it as to be expected. But given P.K’s youth, the fact that he is not a seasoned journalist and the caution that he had to use as a member of one of the involved fraternities… it was to some extent astonishingly good journalism.

  3. HabFab says:

    RenLavoieRDS – Conference calls between the NHLPA and the NHL are done for the day (5:30 ET) Expect NHL CBA talks to resume late Sunday or Monday in New York. NHL offer clarification will happen again in the morning Sunday.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Have we finally reached the time threshold required for both sides to actually “TRY” and make a deal? Thanks for the update Frank, hope your Christmas went well and hope you have a great New Year. CHeers bud!

  4. HabinBurlington says:

    Given that their currently is no NHL hockey to report, you would think a website like TSN would at least provide an AHL option to look at those scores. I did eventually find the AHL under “more+” but how much work could it be to give the AHL a designated area or provide the option when clicking on NHL.

    Amazing to me how lazy they are in providing such updates. And while I do appreciate this website a great deal, you would also think there would be updates also provided on the Bulldogs.

  5. Mr. Biter says:

    Female Pens fan has vowed not to shave her legs till strike ends. lucky it’s not another part of her anotomy she’s not shaving espically if the season is lost.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  6. commandant says:

    College Bowl Games with Snow? What is going on here?

    Go Habs Go!
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  7. Habfan10912 says:

    Great move! As for Cherry most nights I cringe when he spews his bigoted crap. I don’t understand how its not only accepted but he’s become an icon in so doing. I will never understand it.

    Edit: was meant as a response to 24 below. Sorry.
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    • Bripro says:

      Do you guys (Jim and 24) remember in 2004 when a national poll was conducted asking who were the top 10 greatest Canadians of all time, and Cherry came in 7th?
      I couldn’t believe it. With so many who’ve actually had a profound impact in our history, and this yahoo is included on the list.
      No wonder, for so many years, foreign countries didn’t take us seriously…. not that it’s changed much.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I do remember Bri. Baffling.

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      • habstrinifan says:

        Great conversation between Bripro and Habfan10912 re football in the snow and the surprising energy of fans in the stands as people seem to feed off each other’s resiliency and determination to turn the weather into a positive. Bripro’s post especially was spot on.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I remember fondly being dropped off by my parents at Winnipeg Stadium to watch Bomber playoff games in November in the cold of winter. Cheap Seats in the North End Zone sitting beside the “Gotch Men” as they were known. I was bundled in a snowsuit while the fellows beside me were bundled in long underwear and the warmth of a certain bottle they shared amongst themselves. Thankfully they recognized that this 15 year old boy was fine to have a swig or two to keep the cold away. ;-)

  8. 24 Cups says:

    Tired of how the Don Cherry mentality has taken over our game? The cheap shots, hits to the head and blindsiding from behind. Lost count of all the concussions in the game? Then watch this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgEy7I1I7w

  9. 24 Cups says:

    So it looks like there could be a 48 game schedule. If so, that means we might be getting ready to really talk about hockey for the first time in four months.

    There are lots of rumours going around about the new CBA but let’s assume the notion that you can have an amnesty buyout right up until next season is true. If so, that means Scott Gomez might just stick around this year. Even with a new Subban contract the team still has cap room this season.

    The present roster is pretty weak and there’s no immediate help in Hamilton. First question has to be the health of Rene Bourque. Is he ready and can he really make an immediate impact after abdominal surgery? If not, then the team has a major hole to fill. I like Eller at centre but he might just have to play LW for this shortened season. That means Gomez could be the 3rd line centre. Of course, other people would say that the team could play Galchenyuk at LW with Eller at centre. I’ve made my feelings known about that move but I’ll grant you that I can see both sides of the argument. There are lots of pros and cons in terms of how these decisions might impact the team as well as the two players. The only other big training camp issue that I can see is who gets to stay – Diaz or Weber? Or do they both stay with Weber once again being a swing man?

    • Haborama says:

      The best possible option would be to keep Galchenyuk in Sarnia for the rest of the year, get rid of Gomez by any means necessary (even illegal ones) gun for a top 5 pick, and somehow trade for an additional first rounder.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Are you my twin brother that I never knew about:-)

        You totally read my mind.

        • Haborama says:

          thx bro!

          soooo, who do you have in mind for a 1st round pick?? (that’s what’s really worth discussing)

          • 24 Cups says:

            I can think of at least five teams who might be below us so realistically the Habs might be looking in the 6-10 range. I’d love to see the Flames flame out this year so that Montreal could have three picks in the top 40. I can even see Nashville missing the playoffs, as well.

            I’m not a tanker, per se, but if Montreal has an extended losing streak then the question becomes who do we trade for a 1st rounder in 2013. No more Cammalleri fiascos.

  10. Haborama says:

    so I take it that Tinordi beat the crap out of someone last night??

    He’s not exactly Behn Wilson but he can put foot to arse if need be, he’s exactly the kind of D-man we could use in a few years……

  11. accp says:

    NHL Hockey in January 2013 a big ??????????????? mark

  12. commandant says:

    First big game of the World Juniors for Canada tomorrow. Who’s staying up to 4:30 am? or waking up early?

    I don’t understand why its the 4:30 game. Its in Russia, but Russia doesn’t play tomorrow. Why would they play the Canada/USA game in the afternoon (ufa time) instead of prime time (evening ufa = 9am here)?

    Go Habs Go!
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  13. Mr. Biter says:

    Listening to ESPN last night and one of the announcers said the lockout will not hurt the Canadian teams but the league will lose many fans and sponsors in the states. The NHL cannot survive as a 6-12 team league espically if they hope to retain their major sponsors and or get a better T.V. deal.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Marginal fans have moved on most likely. The die hards are still here but there are not enough of us to mitigate the lockouts impact. The league will most likely suffer costing the league money and the players some jobs. Let’s call it the pox.

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      • Bripro says:

        What’s most upsetting is how this lock-out has created so much collateral damage, especially for local merchants of the various market, and the NHL really doesn’t seem to give a hoot. (I’m being polite)

  14. Timo says:

    Subban Jr. reminds me of Tokarski in 2009 – couldn’t stop a beach ball to save his life. That crazy semi final game against russia where Eberle tied the score with like 8 seconds left – Canada could have coasted to an easy win were it not for Tokarski who let every shot in.

    Subban will be/is the same – the only hope that the forwards can score 5 or more goals every game.

  15. Boomer says:

    Highlights of sweden’s game today, Collberg gets the assist at the beginning of the video, then a nice goal at the 1:35 mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrnTVrOSB4

  16. jols101 says:

    DD playing in Spengler Cup on TSN right now.

    • rhino514 says:

      I think they should´ve been more patient with him. I don´t think he´s a big difference maker, but he´s better than whoever will centre the fourth line for the habs, and could have even developped into a third liner.
      Looks like Nattinen is a similar player; I hope they give him a chance. They are both strong plus minus players.

      • frontenac1 says:

        Disagree on that one amigo. He was given lots of opportunities to prove himself on numerous call ups. Some guys are more suited to the Euro game and he probably is one. He showed nothing for the NHL IMO.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          I tend to agree front. I was disappointed that he didn’t see that becoming more of a fourth line type player was his ticket to a longer NHL career.

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  17. Propwash says:

    Germany was just absolute cannon fodder during this WJHC.

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    • 24 Cups says:

      I tried to work out an eight team format with teams playing games on alternating days but it came out to a 17 day tournament. No way that’s going to fly.

      Dump Germany and Latvia and have each team play seven games. Top four make it (1 vs 4 – 2 vs 3) and then the championship final.

      An alternate plan would be a six team tournament which would then take 13 days which keeps it in the two week range.

  18. New says:

    Stu Cowan’s interview with Demers is good reading. The Canadiens of pre-Corey always looked first for young men of character. The writing was there for all to see when Roy blew up and was moved, Keane protested and was sent with him, and even Big Donald told Tremblay off in practice…and was gone.

    The Captain, the best goalie in the league, and the toughest guy in the league, all gone over management ego’s. And the seats remained full.

    Sad but tells you exactly where the focus of “the business” was.

    • Chris says:

      Not to defend Mario Tremblay, who was the wrong guy at the wrong time in the wrong city, but what would have happened to Donald Brashear mouthing off at Scotty Bowman in the 1970′s. Bowman was far more dictatorial than Tremblay could ever dream of being. The difference is of course the results, but Bowman sent some pretty good hockey players packing over his tenure.

      People always blast the Montreal Canadiens for handing the GM from Sam Pollock to Irving Grundman, over the head of Scotty Bowman. What they forget was that the great mind that made that decision was Pollock himself, who (probably rightly) judged Scotty Bowman to be likely to tear the team apart because of his own ego.

      Grundman was a disaster, but we’ll never know whether Bowman could have done better.

      I don’t think the Habs stopped looking for players of character. What they failed was finding guys of talent.

      Lyle Odelein, Mike Keane, Shayne Corson, Saku Koivu, Turner Stevenson…all these guys had character.

      But the Habs tradition of elite superstar players, from Morenz to Richard to Beliveau to Lafleur was broken. The ridiculous supporting casts laden with Hall of Famers was diluted.

      The team didn’t fail because of a lack of character. They failed because of a lack of talent.

  19. rhino514 says:

    took over twenty games, but the kids, especially the Dmen, in Hamilton are coming to life. Tinordi, Ellis, and especially Beaulieu starting to contribute offensively. If they keep doing so i think the team will be solid in the second half.
    Also, what´s the deal with Gabriel Dumont recently?? Among the many posters and pundits who spend considerable hours analysing our prospects, I don´t think this kid was on anyone´s list. Anyone think he has a chance to be an NHL regular?

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Ya, I do!
      And most of our kid team in Hamilton will be playing for the Habs in the next 2 to 4 years, as the big contracts up there come to their end.
      Great Hab’s future with Bergevin’s long term for site.

      • Chris says:

        Ian, as much as we both want it to be true, we also know that there is little to no chance of this being the case.

        Most of the Bulldogs forwards are journeymen at best. Leblanc probably has an NHL future on the third line, and Palushaj might eventually find an NHL gig somewhere (not Montreal). Other than that, Gallagher has got potential to be a lower line player somewhere, and perhaps Nattinen.

        We’ve seen great crops of prospects before, and we’ve seen that only 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 ever become NHL regulars. I’m excited about this crop, but we should also be realistic in our expectations.

        By the way, your Bulls looked good last night dismantling the Storm, who looked like they were suffering a turkey hangover. Gaunce and Brassard were great…Belleville could be interesting if those two get their A games going.

    • Chris says:

      Gabriel Dumont has been on a few people’s radar. His problem is that he is (yet another) very small centre. But he’s got some defensive chops (he was the Guy Carbonneau Trophy winner in his last year in the QMJHL for best defensive forward) and a good motor.

      The problem is that he stalled in Hamilton. His rookie season was pedestrian (5 goals and 18 points in 64 games), and his second season was very disappointing (13 goals and 24 points in 59 games).

      He is now in his third AHL season at age 22 and is still not a point-per-game player on a team that is desperate for anybody to step up and lead it offensively. He had one huge game (3 goals and 2 assists) which inflates his point totals, but on the season he had 6 goals and 13 points in 28 games going into that game. Not exactly the kind of numbers that set tongues wagging when you factor that Mike Blunden (7 goals and 12 points in 28 games) was basically the same type of player, and we know what his NHL potential is.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Chris – I believe it was Mike Boone who first touted the merits of Dumont. A feisty, pestky sparkplug who sadly is undersized.

        I don’t mean to be cruel here, but would we even be discussing his name if he wasn’t French-Canadien?

  20. Ncognito says:

    Collberg with a goal and an assist in a 5-1 win over Latvia.

  21. HabFab says:

    By the numbers; http://capgeek.com/canadiens/

    Listed for 2012-2013
    23 players including Leblanc but not PK.
    $63,897,976
    Remove Leblanc ($1.17 ML) and Gomez ($7.357 ML)
    = $55,370,833 for 21 contracts, sign PK

    Listed for 2013-2014
    14 players not including Gomez,Leblanc or PK
    = $45,020,833 for 14 contracts
    NHL is looking for a Salary Cap of $60 ML
    RFA’s – Desharnais,White and Weber
    UFA’s – Budaj, Bouillon, Nokelainen, Armstrong

    • 24 Cups says:

      Frank – Which would bring us in around the 60M mark. The problem becomes next seeason when we have to sign DD and Galchenyuk and still hit the 60M mark.

      If the team can somehow move Kaberle before 2013-14 then we are in decent shape. That’s a big IF.

      • Bill J says:

        Isn’t Gally signed for 3 seasons already?


        Go Habs Go!

        • 24 Cups says:

          You know Bill, with all of the bs of the past four months I can’t even remember. However, it’s not really a matter of being signed but more a case of his salary coming into play because he actually is on the roster.

          Frank also just made a good point. I guess the devil will be in the details.

          • Habilis says:

            Galchenyuk is signed to a standard 3 year ELC. I think it’s obvious at this point that Gally is good enough to be in the current Habs lineup. The real question for this season is whether or not Bergevin wants to burn the first year of his contract for a shortened season.

      • HabFab says:

        There is still the roll back factor with the “whatever fund” money, which is outside the Cap. Would suspect all new contract salaries going forward would be outside this fund. Capologist will be busy!

    • HabFab says:

      The one time buy out per team is until 2013-2014 season start, would not be surprised to see Gomez finish off this season.
      * Provided there is one for which I’m adopting a wait and see!

  22. 24 Cups says:

    I noticed that Russia started their second goalie against the USA and were able to pull off a victory. Canada goes back to back against those two teams so I wonder if Binnington will get a start.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Subban will start all games, but if he falters, even a little, Binnington would be in. And he will get the job done.!
      It is the rest of the team that is disappointing me. We have the best, they know it, and they are getting themselves in trouble with discipline and selfishness.

      The focus must be kept on winning, not on the controversy.

      • B says:

        Subban is currently ranked 11th out of 16 in save%. I was hoping for better, but so far it has not cost them any points against Germany and Slovakia. They will need better goaltending going forward, I hope Subban will finally earn the job that has been handed to him on a platter.

        http://www.quanthockey.com/khl/teams/atlant-moscow-players-2012-13-khl-stats.html

        –Go Habs Go!–

        • Ian Cobb says:

          I also believe the job was handed to him, he is a very good tender, that can steal a game at any time, but he has a lack of focus at times.

        • Ian Cobb says:

          I also believe the job was handed to him, he is a very good tender, that can steal a game at any time, but he has a lack of focus at times.

          • B says:

            I agree that Subban is a very good goalie with a very bright future, but he did not played as well as Binnington during the camp and warm up games. I am not sure if it is / was such a good coaching decision to just hand him the job regardless of how he has played recently (especially compared to how Binnington has been playing). That said, I really hope Subban gets it going and gives Canada the strong goaltending they will need to go deep (and that he is very capable of providing).

            –Go Habs Go!–

  23. Cal says:

    Happy Saturday, everyone. Time to dust off an old classic.
    http://calsnhllockout2012songparodies.weebly.com/

  24. Habfan10912 says:

    It appears that a buyout clause is coming if and when this gets settled. My question of the day is, Gomez or Kaberle and why?

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    • HabFab says:

      Gomez. A possibility exists that Kaberle could be traded, not so Gomez.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Gomez. We have have DD to take his spot.

      Sad to say, but we need Kaberle. The Hab NHL team had a real lack of quality Dmen and no one in Hamilton is ready. He also is insurance just in case Markov gets hurt again.

      Bourque? Once again, we have no one to play LW and add some size and muscle to the team. In this day and age, a cap hit of 3.3M isn’t the end of the world for a 3rd liner.

      So it’s Gomez. His departure will also have symbolic value in that it clearly brings an end to the Gainey regime.

    • Cal says:

      Gomez for the cap space. Kaberle can be traded as long as he puts up some numbers. If he doesn’t, it’ll be Gomez II.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Cal – I agree. Forgetting what any of the three players bring to the ice (seeing they all have their limitations), it’s a simple case of cap math. Gomez comes in at 7.3M for this year and next. Bourque is 3.3M while Kaberle is 4.25M. That extra 3M is going to be really important in 2013-14. We also have the Subban contract to worry about which will have major implications next season when we have to come in at the new cap maximum.

        • Cal says:

          Exactly. The trickiest part of all of this is to get in under the cap for next season. I expect a few moves, and some waiver releases to give players a chance to catch on elsewhere. The 3rd and 4th liners look like the ones who will lose the most under the new cap.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Cal – I just took a very quick look at next year. Let’s make the assumption that the Habs sign Subban somewhere in the 4M range. Dumping Gomez would then get us closer to the 60M limit in 2014. The only big issues being DD as a RFA and Galchenyuk on an entry level contract which would/could be steep.

            Your point about a few more salary dumps next year just might be quite valid. Of course, there also would be the option of trades at the deadline this season once the playoff picture becomes clearer. I’m assuming the deadline would be pushed back to the 35 game mark.

  25. HabFab says:

    Stats for the Hab players / prospects in the WJC and Spengler Cup. Also stats for how present Habs did in the past WJC;
    http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2961

  26. habsfan0 says:

    NHL & NHLPA appear to be reconciling their positions.

    If league does resume play in a few weeks, it’s likely that the “Thank You Fans” message will be painted alongside the blue lines as it was when play resumed after the previous stoppage.

    Personally, I think an extended middle finger painted at each blue line in every rink would better symbolize what NHL & NHLPA truly feel for their fans.

  27. ZepFan2 says:

    That picture of Roy holding the cup makes my eyes rain.

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  28. Tis Himself says:

    You know, this whole lockout thing is screwing with this year’s tank big time. Gomer playing alone would have guaranteed at least a top five pick!

  29. Captain aHab says:

    Dumont again….kid is looking dang good.

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    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  30. jols101 says:

    And Dumont gets the Hatty.

    Edit: 5 point night. Wow.

  31. Boomer says:

    Doo with the hat trick, nice

  32. jols101 says:

    The blonde behind the IceCap’s bench is stunning.

  33. Captain aHab says:

    Well, they’re playing Avtsin on the PK so he must be doing something right.

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  34. accp says:

    Congrats to our world junior hockey team on their 6-3 win

  35. ProHabs says:

    I have to admit, I am a little worried. If the NHL’s new offer today is accepted and we do have a season of hockey, what will happen to the Fantasy Hockey League. I really hope that Hickey will continue with this even if the NHL starts up again. I think the Habs have a good shot at the cup in the FHL.

  36. Boomer says:

    Ellis with a beauty! Snipes it!

  37. jols101 says:

    The tale of two periods.

    Lets hope the 3rd is like the domination of the 1st and not the dysfunction of the 2nd.

  38. Boomer says:

    What’s goin’ on with Pateryn?

  39. 24 Cups says:

    The statement that we haven’t won a Cup in 20 years can only be viewed as being on the glass half empty side of the bar. In fact, it’s an admission of total failure (sorry for being negative during the festive season).

    Let the new rebuild continue. I pray for a 48 game schedule so we can have a another chance at grabbing a Galchenyuk.

    • Harditya says:

      I completely agree. Buy-out Gomez and only 1 more year left till Markov’s, Kaberle’s, and Gionta’s lucrative contracts expire. A chance to re-build the team completely. A team led by Pacioretty, Subban, Price, Galchenyuk and another top-end talent like MacKinnon sure sounds exciting.

      • Captain aHab says:

        That’s why they need to avoid the temptation to bring up Galchenuyk too quickly….let the team totally suck for one more half year.

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    • Timo says:

      You call it a success, Steve? :)

    • jols101 says:

      Barkov, Drouin, Jones, MacKinnon, Monahan, Lindholm or the Russian kid that we saw today, all would look great in a Hab’s Jersey. Can’t go wrong with any of these kids. The Russian kid has a 3 year contract in the KHL so that is a little scary.

      One more year of the Tank and getting rid of some spare parts and we should be good to go.

    • Phil C says:

      The new CBA offer has all teams that miss the playoffs in the lottery for the 1st overall pick. Call it the anti-tank clause.

  40. Timo says:

    Habs will win their 21st Stanley Cup with Scott Gomez in the lineup.

  41. Mavid says:

    and the wheels are falling off…

  42. Mavid says:

    what about girls?

  43. Boomer says:

    Let’s mix it up with the posts boys, anyone wanna share their new year’s resolutions?
    Mine is to Continue Bringing the Ruckus to the ladies…
    :O

  44. Captain aHab says:

    So what’s the deal with Avtsin?

    Does he simply have no hockey sense? No D?

    The kid does have moves and is still quite young.

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    • Mike D says:

      Skill and slick moves out the wazoo but lacks consistency, hockey sense, positioning without the puck, and D.

      If only this kid could put it together we’d have a real player in him.

      - Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

      • Captain aHab says:

        That would describe AK46 to a T.

        —————-
        Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

        • Mike D says:

          LOL – I actually originally wrote in my reply “(see AK46)”….but then I deleted it. I sh*t you not!

          - Honestly yours
          Twitter: @de_benny

          • Captain aHab says:

            The thing I don’t get is that it’s not like the Dawgs have a logjam of high ceiling wingers so why not stick with him?

            —————-
            Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

          • Mike D says:

            That’s a good question, aHab. Not exactly sure why they sit him so much, but his production declined last year from the year before and that’s never good. Maybe they don;t think he’ll put it together and would rather give the playing time to guys they have more faith in? Or maybe they want to send a message to him?

            Not exactly sure.

            - Honestly yours
            Twitter: @de_benny

  45. Hobie Hansen says:

    Tinordi wasn’t happy about getting hit, smoked the guy who hit him and then gave the guy who jumped in a serious beat down. I love this guy!

  46. jols101 says:

    Tinordi throwing haymakers. Love it.

  47. Hobie Hansen says:

    Dumont is looking good for the Dogs. I see him challenging for the 4th line center job in Montreal down the road. He’s not necessarily physically intimidating but he’s scrappy, good at the position, kills penalties and chips in with his share of goals.

    Oh, and I think he’s French?

    I picture him having a poster of Guy Carbonneau in his stall. No I’m not comparing him to Guy!

  48. jols101 says:

    Dumont bangs home a softie. 3-0, 2nd PP goal.

    Dumont’s 8th of the season. He is lighting it up.

  49. Mavid says:

    its all in the hair…

  50. Captain aHab says:

    Dawgs don’t strike me as a team with a whole lot of jam.

    —————-
    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  51. Ian Cobb says:

    Good game so far, jols

    • jols101 says:

      Ya Ian, Bulldogs came out on fire. Good to see. They are dominating right now but it is only 10 minutes into the 1st period. Lots of time to go, hopefully they can keep up this pace.

  52. jols101 says:

    Bulldogs on fire.

    Avtsin with a beauty move and LL bangs it home. 2-0.

  53. jols101 says:

    What does everyone think of the Bulldogs 3rd jersey?

    Stortini doing what he does best. Lets dance.

    Holland makes it 1-0. Nice.

  54. AliHaba says:

    Capgeek says that Gomez’ salary for next season is the same for this year…. $7,357,143 cap hit. Don’t know why you say that he won’t cost as much next year.

    And btw…Jenner’s suspension was completely warranted.

  55. HabFab says:

    His buy out is based on his actual salary which will be less but this won’t count against the Cap if he is the team’s designated amnesty buy out.

  56. rhino514 says:

    Would the buy-out be half of Gomez´remaining salary or two thirds? I believe the two thirds is for players older than thirty-five, correct?
    And is all this talk about amnesty buyouts just pure speculation or are there fact based reports that this is being fought for by either of the two parties involved in the dispute?
    If there is no amnesty buy out then this means Gomez entire cap hit for the remaining two seasons counts against the cap, even if he is bought out? I also read somewhere that teams may not be able to stick players in the minors to releive cap hit so it makes sense that they would fight for amnesty buyouts as there would be no more loopholes otherwise to lessen the effects of bad signings…

  57. HabFab says:

    - Pretty sure it is 2/3′s without checking it out.
    - The over 35 is for contracts signed after they are 35 and it is 100%.
    - Actually the PA has been pushing the amnesty buy-out, the owners opposed because the buy out is outside the Cap (50% HRR).
    - Buy outs under the Cap are spaced out over double the years bought out times actual salary taken from Cap salary (bizarre formula). The Amnesty buy out is a one time deal until the start of next season, one player per team.
    - The proposed CBA calls for contracts buried in Europe or AHL to count against the team cap but not against the players (50% HRR)


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