Multimedia from the day Gauthier, Gainey walked the plank

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Geoff Molson met the media at the Canadiens Brossard training complex on Thursday morning.
He had thanked Pierre Gauthier and Bob Gainey for their nine years of service to the club and hired former Canadiens general manager Serge Savard as a consultant in the process of finding a new GM.
The owner said there was no timetable for hiring a new executive.
And while fluency in French is highly desirable, Molson said, he did not indicate language would be a deal-breaker issue in hiring “the best man possible”.

AUDIO of Geoff Molson press conference

406 Comments

  1. Stev.R says:

    Are we all in agreement that Brisebois is the top contender?

    Speaks french, from Quebec, young, has experience as a ass’t gm, has a history with Habs, was name 3rd of all potential candidates for gm.

    • habfan53 says:

      You could easily throw Marc Bergevin in the mix, he is the assistant GM in Chicago could even bring Denis Savard as coach

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • slamtherimtim says:

      we will need to listen to 990 at 530 to hear savard , after that we will know what direction they are going in , i for one was hoping savard was the next GM but he is above it now , i guess. Mcguire should be on now

  2. Lizardking89 says:

    Gauthier and Gainey are gone now lets make it a hat trick and get rid of Gomez. What a great day for Habs fans!

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …can You contemplate ‘the possibility’ of a McGuire as GM & Patrick as Coach tandem ???
    …wow, 2 giant egos
    …Boone and cohorts will wet Their pants …HIO clicks going through the roof on a daily basis …Gagnon will have no reason to manufacture sensationalistic headlines
    …the Players relaxed and happy no media looking for Their bon mots as they’re coming out of a post-game shower
    …just not sure I am ready for a cue-ball bald ‘face’ to Our Habs though
    …maybe I’m getting a little too rediculous
    …sorry, today is making Me a tad too giddy :)
    …FREE !!! …FREE at last !!!

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    • Bill says:

      To make it even better, when they hire GM McGuire and Coach Roy, their contracts should stipulate that they have to live together and allow their entire lives to be videotaped, Big Brother style.

      Edit it down to the choice moments and you have probably the best sitcom in history: Patrick and Pierre.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • joeybarrie says:

      I met Pierre McGuire here in DC during a snow storm a few years ago. Stuck in the bar next to the Verizon Center. He was a very nice guy who talked with my friend and I. Had some good memories of him on the radio here in the early to mid nineties.
      He didn’t come off at all egotistical. His TV personality seemed to me to be just that. However, I’m not saying he would be a good GM. He is a close talker though. Very creepy.
      I also met Patrick Roy MANY years ago at a golf course. Or at least I should say I saw him. Cause he wouldn’t talk to anyone. Also got into an argument with the pro shop staff over payment for his stuff… Or at least his idea that as PATRICK ROY (despite his multi million dollar paycheck) he did not have to pay…
      So I doubt there would be an ego clash. But I cannot imagine them working together. Roy would need someone with some sort of successful history in the NHL in order to respect somewhat. If we get Roy, we better keep Serge on as a consultant…..
      Cause I also met Serge Savard MANY times. His daughter used to figure skate at the Arena I grew up in. He would get fined every single night for smoking his cigar in the arena, where smoking was prohibited.
      He was always nice to me. Especially when I got to skate on the Bell Center ice right before it opened, and he was there with Tretiak, Herderson and others. He seemed very happy to hear me ask how his daughter was, despite his tone of disapproval when he told me she had quit skating.

      • habsfan0 says:

        ” He is a close talker though. Very creepy.”

        You mean like the episode on Seinfeld?

        • joeybarrie says:

          Yup. Exactly like that. Personal space isn’t something he understands well. But he was very nice, and asked us to join him and a few guys he was with. Funny cause it was right when Gainey was stepping down, and I remember thinking if I was talking with the Habs next GM.

  4. HardHabits says:

    I have bad news for many of you. I just read that Serge Savard also wants it that all Habs fans be able to communicate in French. Get out those Rosetta Stones people.

  5. habfan53 says:

    Savard says that Montreal missed out on Giroux, Letang and Perron well kind of.
    In 2005 Letang, Montreal picked Price then Latendress (modern Wickenheiser)
    in 2006 Giroux- We took David Fisher this we could have done better
    in 2007 Perron- Max Pac and Ryan McDonnagh 2 solid pics.
    Also in light of HABS coaching styles I doubt that these 3 would have blossomed as they did.

    Hindsight is always 20/20

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  6. j2w4habs25 says:

    I haven’t been on here in so long.

    what a day to break the news.

    Carey Price #31

  7. Mr_MacDougall says:

    The “new GM” is only part of the restructuring. The Habs need to hire:

    President (hopefully)
    GM
    Assistant GM
    Capologist
    Pro Scout
    Amateur Scout
    Head Coach
    Assistant Coach(s)

    A lot of work to be done (There is a great possibility that the scouts remain)

    • shiram says:

      You missed the ice girls.

      RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

    • habfan53 says:

      Molson Hires GM
      GM Hires assistant GMs including CAPologist and Head coach
      Nobody has problems with Timmins scouting is fine.
      Head coach hires assistant head coach(s)
      It is all in the circle of life

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • joeybarrie says:

      Scouting did pretty good draft wise. Would hate to have Timmins scouting for the leafs.

    • neumann103 says:

      And I hope they consider the linguistic element

      President – must speak French
      GM – really really should speak French, mitigated only if there is a strong President serving as the public face and the GM is more limited to Player Personnel
      Assistant GM – probably multiple positions and should speak French
      Capologist -probably also an Asst GM level position but speaking French ought not to be a hard requirement
      Pro Scout – speaking French ought not to be a hard requirement
      Amateur Scout – must speak French in order to exploit the natural advantage the Habs should have in scouting the Q and finding players not on others’ radar
      Head Coach – would be nice if he spoke French but really the closer you get to the ice the more you are compromising your choices to have the language restrictions
      Assistant Coach(s) – speaking French ought not to be a hard requirement

      I respect the desire of the fans to have people in the organization speaking French, but if you apply this across the board you run out of options quickly.

      I think the media demand for French speaking coaches is more self serving (how do you get your BS cliche post game quotes served up on a platter) but the reality is they will destroy anyone who they don’t approve of.

      “Et le but!”

  8. Ian Cobb says:

    Gomez for GM.
    A place in the sun!

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    Patrick ROy ready to listen. Prefers to be coach than GM.

    Carbo thinks Brisebois is the best candidate.

    Although I think it’s odd that some people list his main asset as “he understands the salary cap”. I mean WTF! I understand the salary cap.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  10. Stev.R says:

    Gagnon said PG’s biggest problem was that he was so distant from the media. God damn he is dumb. He is only mad that PG wouldn’t give him some stupid story that Gagnon could write. PG didn’t let the leeches in the media cause chaos around the team.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      It certainly isn’t the most important aspect of the GM’s job, but don’t you think that things would have been at least a little different if PG didn’t rule the team in a shroud of secrecy? When reporters have nothing to write about, they tend to dig more for stories. That usually leads to more information leaking out and more stories to be written based on speculation. Those types of stories tend to get the masses more worked up, and then it becomes a media shit storm that the whole team has to deal with.

      You don’t think the secrecy around Markov negatively impacted the team this year?

      • Stev.R says:

        So it’s still the media for making shit up. Sports journalists are really the most useless people on earth.

        It’s a lose/lose situation. You either tell the media something and they blow it of proportion, or you say nothing and they make shit up.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          The idea is to say not much, but just enough to print a story.

          On the Markov issue, they totally screwed up. Also, there is no need to prevent guys like Timmins and amateur scouts from commenting on prospects the Habs drafted. What’s the point of that?

          Make no mistake, Pierre Gauthier’s way of dealing with the media and the public was a MAJOR reason why the organization’s image went to shit this year and last.

          Bottom line, the media is here to stay. It’s a part of the market that is Montreal. Just like it is in any Canadian market. That’s why it is important to hire people who can deal with that reality.

          • Stev.R says:

            I agree it’s part of the reason their image went to shit. But image isn’t reality. It’s how the public perceives the the team, and their perception is heavily influenced by Journalism School dropouts looking to take advantage of the publics lust for information on their favourite team. I think the fans need to know not to believe everything they read.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        100% disagree. The media in montreal are just waiting to pounce on the team and its moves. I think it is great that the teams are professional and don’t leak information to the media. Gangon is an absolute Tool. He loves to spin negativity…..why would you want to feed that.

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      • neumann103 says:

        Gauthier made it much harder for any coach – let alone a first time Anglophone – by being so remote and uncommunicative.

        “Et le but!”

    • joeybarrie says:

      The knock on him is his own fault. While I think the media causes more harm than good, when you fail what can you say? If we won, no one would question him.
      I’ve used this reference before but no one questions Alex Ferguson in Manchester. Not when he let go some immense talent.
      The problem is there are not that many genius’ out there.
      I don’t care what anyone says. The Pens got 5 top five picks in a row. I could be GM over there and they would still be a top team.
      And for those saying TANK for five years… Who is going to do that. End up on the bottom and you’ll get fired.
      What’s funny is all those who want to tank are very pleased with this decision.

    • Jim Edson says:

      Gagnon is just another part of the Tabloid media which surrounds the Canadiens!

      Interested in muck raking more than journalism!

      A Fleet Street clone!

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      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

    • habstrinifan says:

      What a dumb stupid assessment by Gagnon.

  11. Ian Cobb says:

    We will now indeed find out the quality of Geoff Molson as to what kind of a business man and owner he is.!

    This is his team and organization. Will he bring in the best, or will he bring in the best name for public consumption.

    Man or mouse, we will find out soon!

  12. Propwash says:

    So, TheDude cites “G-love’s” actual contract, you realize that it was the GM of the Rangers that signed him for that kind of money, and not the other way around.
    Price and Subban aren’t going to make that kind of money, seeing that they’re both RFA’s if memory serves.

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  13. habfan53 says:

    For all the Kaberle haters
    41 games exactly 1/2 of the season 22 points
    That would project to 44 points and he would be a -14

    Mark Streit that everybody misses 45 points -25 and almost 1 miilion more $

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  14. Psycho29 says:

    Now that’s freaking scary…

    Last night I dreamt that I was walking by the Bell Centre, and I smelt something cooking. I followed the wonderful odor to near the Maurice Richard statue, and there was a huge BBQ set up. The person working the grill had their back to me, and he was wearing a chef hat and a Habs’ apron.
    I then saw it was Geoff Molson, and he had a goat turning on the spit. Rejean Houle handed me a paper plate and said, “Bienvenue Mon Ami! It’s almost ready!”. Geoff Molson sliced some meat right off the goat and put it on my plate. I heard a loud “BAAAAAAAA”……and then I woke up in a cold sweat……

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    Why do I have trepidation about the changes coming? Perhaps this rendition by Bowie of his song Changes puts it best!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLCaRM2YCuo

    • habsfan0 says:

      I think this is going to be a day to remember all around.

      Gauthier fired, and there’s a rumour that Finance Minister Flaherty will give Toronto $1B to construct subways only in today’s budget.

      Yes!

  16. Mr. Biter says:

    Just getting off topic today for two questions to posters:
    1) To stop tanking and keep all teams playing hard till the last game, change Draft rule that # 1 draft pick goes to 17th place team # 2 to 18th etc. This should be welcome news to all ticker holders and PPV viewers because we pay good money to see teams either sell off their assets after the trade deadline and you see inferior hockey for the rest of the season. Ao if you go all out and don’t make the playoffs you get the # 1 pick. This will stop tanking.
    2) New CBA talks give players a bigger share but in return no more guaranteed contraxts like in NFL.
    What say you?

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

    • LafleurGuy says:

      Quite creative! And makes sense. B-pool Olympic teams are rewarded with promotion to the A-pool for being the best of the also-rans. The best of the also-rans in the NHL have a disincentive to try their best.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  17. Cardiac says:

    Here are your Habs for the 2012-13 season… With this lineup, you can’t miss!!!

    LeClair (John) – Pleks – Cole
    Pacioretty – Damphousse – Bellows
    Dionne (Gilbert) – DD – Keane
    DiPietro (Paul) – Charbonneau – White
    Bench: Eller, Benoit Brunet, Oleg Petrov

    Subban – Odelein
    Markov – Desjardins (Eric)
    Gorges – J.J. Daigneault
    Bench: Emelin, Donald Dufresne, Kevin Haller

    Roy – Price – Racicot

    Coaches – Demers, Bergie, Jacques Laperriere
    GM – Serge & Andre Savard

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    - Jerry Maguire

  18. 365fan says:

    There is always a chance that Serge may do a “Dick Cheney” and decide after the search is over that he himself is the best person to be gm. I can foresee a situation where he is gm and the crown prince could be his assistant. Someone like Roy could even be coach and assistant gm, possibly. I just think that Savard has done his thing with his business interests (which probably became a distraction towards the end of his last tenure) and may look at restoring the glory of the Habs as the way of putting his legacy up with the likes of Selke and Pollock. Once he gets in on the hockey management side, discussing trade possibilities etc, he may find the fumes too addictive to just walk away into the sunset in June.

  19. habfan53 says:

    It is interesting that reading Geoff Molson he says that language will not be a deal breaker. On RDS.CA Serge Savard says the next GM does not have to be a francophone but he will have to speak french. Sounds like a francophone to me as the number of english hockey people who speak french are few and far between.

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  20. Jim Edson says:

    ” Who you gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS”!

    Finally they called the “ghostbusters”!

    ———————————————————————-
    What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

    In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

    They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

    ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  21. shiram says:

    Savard says experience for the new Gm is not so important, but speaking french is.

    RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

  22. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I think the only English-only GMs with any chance possible to be accepted by Our Francophone Fans are NJ’s Lou Lamoriello, Detroit’s Holland, or Scotty Bowman …ALL remote long-shots
    …I’m a ‘Roy Guy’, …so hope He will be part of the process …preferably as Coach
    …but if there is any doubt of Roy’s 100% commitment to Our Habs ?
    …funk Him :)

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    …the Montreal Canadiens organization and Our Fans, as a whole need to feel this current cold frigid splash of reality, …this process will, hopefully, give Us a long needed sense of humility, not humiliation …and help to revive and renew Our tattered culture of high hockey ideals, and ultimate success in the near future
    …ride the wave, is all We can do as Fans: …Ownership must make the right choices, persevere, and act not talk

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  23. Chester says:

    So I guess that means Larry Effin Robinson won’t be commin to town with old Sergie driving the bus. Bummer. I find there to be something intellegent about Vinnie Damphousse. Perhaps smart enough to stay away. He might be a guy for the GM job. One thing is for sure tho, we have to get St Patrick back in the building. Another thing, if somebody mentions McSplooge again I’m gonna pass out. He is right where he belongs, talking hockey to Americans.

  24. Stev.R says:

    I crunched the numbers, and if any significant change is going to be made, then you can pretty much count on more than 1. We are already battling with the cap next year if we plan to sign a scorer and buy out Gomez. http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w36/nightryder_2007/team-1.jpg

  25. matt jordan says:

    Hopefully the Gomez and Kaberle eras come to an end soon as well. Than the team can begin the re-tool of the organization.
    I hope Molson and the new GM have the sense to see what is deadweight on this team and how they can spend the cap space more effectively.

    Wade Redden, Cristobal Huet, Jeff Finger, Sean Avery… Lots of teams find ways to remove brutal contracts, why can’t the Habs.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t have a problem with Kaberle.
      What’s your issue with him?
      He produces points, and is a veteran.
      Everyone was praising Wiz to the skies, but his defensive numbers are just as bad as Kabby’s.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • shiram says:

        To be fair, Wiz produces alot more offence than Kaberle does, well this season anyways.

        RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

        • HabsPEI31 says:

          Hmm…
          Wiz with 5g, 19a, 24pnts. 45GP
          Kabby with 3g, 19, 22pnts, 41GP with us, 0g, 9a, 29GP with the Canes.

          Hard to really say with the injury to Wiz. May be a close tally.

          Career-wise, not even close, Kabby wins hands down.

          “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

          • shiram says:

            Kabs ppg this season : 0.44, and that is pretty good.
            Wiz ppg this season : 0.53 that’s better.

            RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

          • boing007 says:

            Wiz stil has a wicked point shot, Kaberle never did.

            Richard R

      • PureGuava says:

        Nik Lidstrom would have brutal numbers in Columbus…

        “Of course I’m crazy, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.”
        - Robert Anton Wilson

      • Propwash says:

        Kabs is an easy target, because he has been made fun of by Habs fans throughout the years beforehand when he was with other teams.

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      • Kooch7800 says:

        Wiz also tosses the odd body check. Kabby is a decent PP quarterback but when your team is as soft as fresh bread he isn’t the best choice. I wouldn’t be afraid to drive then net on our D….

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      • matt jordan says:

        Really?
        Because he can’t play defense. He couldn’t play defense in Toronto, in Boston, or Carolina, and he can’t play defense in Montreal either.

        He’s a long time Maple Leaf, and he won a Stanley Cup in Boston.

        He didn’t help the powerplay in Boston, and there’s a reason they didn’t bring him back despite paying a huge price to get him.
        Carolina publicly acknowledged that he was mistake, than Montreal traded for Kaberle because the powerplay was awful. The powerplay never improved and neither did the Canadiens.

        Kaberle’s contract is horrible, he is also slow, and he is soft.

        Wisniewski did an excellent job in the Canadiens top four last year and his addition helped the Canadiens into the playoffs. He played through injuries for the Canadiens. He wasn’t perfect for the Habs and he’s not a number one defenseman like Columbus thinks he is, but he’s a lot better than Kaberle.

        There’s a reason Cunneyworth plays Kaberle on the third pairing and a reason(s) Gauthier was fired, and a reason why most fans want Kaberle gone and a reason most fans hated the trade when it happened.

      • theox_8 says:

        he is too soft on an already soft d squad at the moment.

  26. LafleurGuy says:

    Some words of caution about overly high and sometimes unrealistic expectations. Scottie Bowman was our team’s highly successful coach from ’72 to ’79 won 5 cups in 8 years. The NHL was a 16 team league with Washington and the Islanders added after Vancouver and Buffalo were. Sadly, Bowman was passed over for the GM post which was given to the memorable Irving Grundman (remember him?). Bowman availed himself of the job offer from Buffalo. He probably jumped at it and the opportunity to coach Gilbert Perrault and his French Connection linemates (RIP Richard Martin). In seven seasons, Bowman took the team to the finals once in what was one of two losing appearances the Sabers have made in the team’s history. Of course, Bowman went on to win one Cup with Pittsburgh, having taken over for the suddenly ill Bob Johnson, and then he went on to coach the Red Wings to 3 championships in a nine year span. The point is that his methods were similar in 4 cities, but his lack of success in Buffalo demonstrates how there are so many needed components for a championship team.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • habsnyc says:

      buffalo went to the finals 3 times. montreal was afraid he would trade lafleur for younger players. Bowan traded Richard Martin, long story. Prior to Montreal Bowman was in St. Louis.

      Detroit Montreal and Pittsburgh were packed with Hall of Fame players. St. Louis and Buffalo were not. That is the difference. Bowman is a fine coach. But he won when he coached the best teams.

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  27. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …haha, on 990, some Fan quoted Martin Luther King’s, ‘FREE at last !, FREE at last !’
    …Melnick playing it over and over
    …funny :)

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  28. Dr.Rex says:

    Todays random thoughts

    - I very impressed with Geoff Molson. HE actually made me feel happy to be a habs fan today, a feeling I have become numb too lately.
    - Pierre McGuire as GM is just a figment of imagination of someone who has just taken about 12 hits of acid.
    - IF Larry Carriere was to get appointed as GM I think it would have been announced today.
    - Should at least interview some longshots like ROy, Damphousse and Button. SHe if any can blow them away.
    - Gainey is a great person, a historic icon and a even better family man.
    - Gauthier claerly never learned the phrase ” DOnt burn your bridges”. He clearly put himself before the team this year with all of his desperate and panic moves. Teh fellas on the score think the Kaberle move will forever be his downfall. I concur.
    - FInally, it can only get better from here. ANd lets get all the losing and bad play outta us in throughout the next five games
    -
    =

  29. H.Upmann says:

    I can daydream, so here goes: Pat Brisson GM, Guy Boucher coach, lure Sid the Kid over. Build team system around PK, Sid, Price…. Like I said, just a dream.

  30. JoeC says:

    Posted on TSN;

    Sports-Expert
    1 hour ago
    Habs need a big cleanup. Id keep White, Gionta, Pachioretty, Cole, Deharnais, Gorges, Emellin, Diaz, Leblanc ( Charachter guys )and get rid of the problems on Habs, Price, Subban, Bourque, Darche, Gomez, Plekanec Etc.

    So, lets setup a game! What HIO poster posted this rubbish on the TSN site?

  31. jon514 says:

    The person who GMs the Canadiens should get paid $1/season until they win a cup…

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

  32. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …will be interesting to see whether the Weeds’ board of directors will be shamed into doing same with Burke
    …nah, …Weeds have long-proved they have no shame :)

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  33. Bripro says:

    Hey!
    Did you guys hear????
    THEY FIRED GAUTHIER!!

    Huh? What’s that? Oh…..I’m the last one to know. Figures.
    I’ll go back to sleep now.
    Dream of McGuire and Carbo.

    • shiram says:

      One man’s dream is another man’s nightmare.

      RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

      • Bripro says:

        :D I knew I’d draw at least one rebuttal on that.

        • shiram says:

          I would not mind Carbo, but it seems obvious to me he moved on from coaching.
          Mcguire well, I just don’t see it.

          RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

          • Mr. Biter says:

            I never found out till 2:00 CST. Long night on the town in MPLS last night. Now I can get the \\\\\\\tequila and Rum , but the Cuban will have to wait till Sunday.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

          • Bripro says:

            Biter, that’s your next cross-border trip?

            And Shiram, Carbo was doing very well when Gainey bumped him out of there.
            I’d love to see him back.
            And for what it’s worth, I find Vinny Damphousse a very astute person.
            He’s sharp, knows the league as well as Stevie Y does, so why not hire him as GM?
            He’d be loved around here. And I’m pretty sure he’d do a great job.

          • shiram says:

            Yeah but Carbo is not coaching anywhere anymore, so I just think he moved on from the coaching thing.

            RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Yeah, Bripro, work,work,work.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

  34. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    So Molson’s biggest screw up is that he didn’t let the slide go further. Now we all expect big news and big change from a team that plays in a league rigged for mediocrity. We’d all just gotten used to haphazard decisions on and off the ice.

    ______________________________________________________
    Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

  35. PeterD says:

    Next GM…most important skill/talent is to be able to assess hockey skill and potential in players…
    Gauthier and Gainey have been abismal in this area.
    Have we won any player trade during their tenure with the team…?
    How’s our performance at the draft table been in the first round?
    Starting in 2003 Gauthier’s first year…he is head of scouting…and they pick AK46 when Carter and Getzlaf are available???
    An absolute MUST for the position is to be able to understand hockey talent and make smart insightful descisions about player personnel…
    OMG…why did we get Geoffrion if he is too soft or unmotivated to play at the NHL level…WTF was so enticing about Kaberle that we had to trade for his contract? Don’t even ask about Gomez.

    In the 9 years of the Gainey/Gauthier era this franchise has been completed depleted of talent at the NHL and AHL level…sure we have a few rising stars onthe team and several hopefuls coming out of Junior and College, but the yet to turn pros have a very long path to go before they are proven successful draft picks. God I sure hope the lst few years prove to be good for us int he draft…but most importantly this year HAS to be a major win for us when we pick our future talent…skill – yes, size – sure, heart and compete and upside potential – absolute MUST…we can’t afford to wait several years only to discover we have drafted another AK46 underachiever, of a David Fischer never will be, or missed the real diamond inthe draft as per Giroux.

    Good by Mr. Gauthier and good luck to Mr. Molson in the job search for our next GM and Coach.

    • habsnyc says:

      maybe hire Wayne Thomas the assistant GM in San Jose, who won Cup with Montreal as a backup goalie and runs the Worcester Sharks.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Chris says:

      If we missed the diamond in the rough in Giroux, so did a lot of other teams. Giroux was selected 22nd overall. Going into the draft, TSN had him ranked 22nd, as did McKeen’s. ISS did not have him listed in their top 30 skaters and nor did the Red Line Report or ESPN’s E.J. Hradek. The NHL’s Central Scouting Service had Giroux ranked 38th amongst North American skaters.

      There was absolutely no consensus on Giroux, much in the same fashion as Fischer. McKeen’s (17th), CSS (29th) and Red Line Report (Wild Card I) had Fischer rated higher than Giroux, while TSN had him lower.

      How did it turn out? Well, Giroux is obviously the better player. But that’s the risk you run in a draft…Fischer was a wild card, a high-risk but high-reward player that the Habs struck out with. Giroux was somewhat of a high-risk but high-reward player. Some teams supposedly had him ranked as a 2nd-round or even 3rd-round pick, while others (Columbus, for example) had him ranked inside the top-15.

      Drafting is as much art and luck as it is science. In general, the Habs have done well, if not better than almost any other team in the NHL. Where they have failed has been in hitting home runs.

      Looking at this year’s team, the endless doom and gloom would have us out of the playoffs for years. In reality, they are much closer than that. The return of a healthy Andrei Markov next season would go a LONG way towards stabilizing the blue line, especially when combined with the continued NHL development of Diaz, Subban and Emelin.

      The team clearly needs some help up front, but there are pieces: Pacioretty, Cole, Plekanec, Desharnais, Eller and Bourque are excellent to average top-9 forwards in the right role. The return of Brian Gionta next season adds another. So adding two more top-9 forwards should be on the wishlist, although I wouldn’t be suprised if Louis Leblanc can take a third-line forward role next season. They should have no problem assembling a decent fourth line.

      So add one goal-scorer to Plekanec’s line, get a relatively healthy contribution from Markov and Gionta and hope for continued improvement from the cadre of youngsters and you’ve got the makings of a rapid turnaround. Will they be a Stanley Cup contender? No.

      But they aren’t THAT far away, and a top-5 pick this summer could go a long way to cementing that status.

  36. habs4_25th says:

    If you want a smart hockey man and a man who could bring back a winning attitude. I say you go for the best in the business….. Scotty bowman. He was offered the GM job in Toronto, but when he got turned down to have full autonomy they said no. Too bad we should get a mastermind of hockey in here and show the leafs who a real GM is!!! that is IMO.

    “To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high.”

  37. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …up to today it was very difficult to have a measure of Geoff Molson …the perception left on the language controversy, especially, with PG’s hiring sitting-duck Randy Cunneyworth after the firing of Martin was a moment with potential to permanently leave Molson with zero credibility, no matter what He did in the future
    …but, today’s presentation was a tour-de-force by Geoffrey Molson …hitting all the right buttons, …and looking genuine, sincere and human at the same time
    …of course, future substance and results will be His ultimate legacy, not His announcement and presentation today
    …but, for today, at least, Geoff Molson left Me with optimism for the future
    …I hope I will still feel the same way 12 months from today

    _________________________________________________________
    HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  38. RockinRey says:

    And around and around they go!!!

    What is with this organization?? They bring back Savard as a consultant ? Is there no search firm out there? Didn’t someone decide back in the 90′s it was time to part ways with this guy?

    The time is right to bring in some fresh blood and start building something new.

    Reminds me a bit of the Blue Jays…constantly referencing the glory days and even bringing back Beeston…..

  39. Propwash says:

    Lol @ TheDude.
    Seriously, where are you pulling those salary “demands” from?

  40. Hobie Hansen says:

    I’ve seen Darche mentioned as being a part of the 4th line or a spare forward next season.

    The guy is history people. He is a UFA this summer and I seriously doubt the new GM or even the Goat would have ANY interest in bringing him back.

    • shiram says:

      Bring in an english GM, keep Darche to appease the media!

      RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

    • 44har48 says:

      I like character guys like Darche, probably a great son/father and person, but man, thank you, he doesn’t belong in the NHL. It showed the sorry state of affairs when he was in the lineup becuase he was one of the only players we had that would actually get in fornt of and go to the net.

  41. LafleurGuy says:

    I was quite impressed with Geoff Molson’s state of the union address, the respectful handling of a painful divorce, the choice of order of the two languages to give the press release, and the noticeable strong attachment to the team he has as a fan.
    Whatever the make-up, or composition of the next set of leaders, I want them to do a forensic audit of asset management, kind of my pompous way of saying that the most destructive practice of the Gainey era was losing a pile of UFAs for nothing. Kovalev, Koivu, Tanguay, Souray, Ryder…… One only has to look to Toronto and see how its fans totally turned on Mats Sundin for not allowing himself to be traded for another asset upon completion of his last contract with them, and he was only one UFA.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • New says:

      I was impressed as well. I can’t help but note it seemed to be the english media that was harping on language while the Quebec media seemed to be chasing Roy/Savard rumours. Standing outside it was the owner trying to build a winning organization and maybe implying he isn’t there to flip the center and team at the first good offer.

  42. Jimmy9Toes says:

    I am not surprised by the move and really could care less that it was done now and not at the end of the season. Like most of you I am very curious who the next big boss and coach will be. One thing that does bother me is that most people on here will only remember the Gomez trade and the throw in for MacDonough. Yes it was a very bad throw in for a very bad player, but do you guys honestly think that that was the worst trade ever. Do you think the Leaf fans complain every day that they gave us Russ Courtnall for John Kordic? I think not, sometimes you just have to let it go. Yes I agree it was a terrible trade, but like a co-workder or mine always says, “Build a bridge and get over it”.

  43. gismo111 says:

    It is about time!!!!!! Gauthier and Gainey have taken the fans for a bunch of fools. The only time they bothered to make a move is when their seat got hot so they would go and make a stupid trade to take the attention off of themselves then everyone would start ranting about the trade and forget about Gauthier and Gainey. If the fans weren’t so crazy about the Habs, they would have been happy and satisfied with a last place. gainey was a good player but a poor manager or coach. If we are going to criticize the work of the french canadien players on the team and trade them away after a few bad games well i think the same is deserved for those two guys. They have destroyed every french player who has come through the team and got rid of them for a bunch of nobodys!!!! Spring clean up was well needed except i wish they would have been gone at the first of the year when someone else could have spent the money. Thank you Mr Molson, i am a happier Habs fan today!!!!!

  44. Stev.R says:

    Things that need to be addressed for next year:

    Sure up the D-line.
    This will be partly address simply by having a year of experience for Emelin and Diaz and Subban. Plus with Markov back we have another minute muncher. We will probably need to sign 1 more steady shutdown defenseman. Need to stay healthy.

    Secondary scoring.
    Pleks has had a rough year. Mainly because he has not played with very talented wingers and has been forced to play a very defensive game. With Gio back that will help on the offense part, but another linemate needs to be found. It may be Leblanc but I think we should go look for some in FA. Doan and Parenteau might be available. Semin and Parise will be too expensive (although if Molson is feeling like he needs to make a splash, I could see him going hard after Parise and fixing our cap afterwards)

    Bottom six:
    Our bottom six needs to be straightened out. We have Moen, Eller, Darche, Blunden, White, Geoffrion, Staubitz, Bourque and Engvist wanting a spot. Eller and Moen are the only guarantees in my opinion. Although, I think Eller needs to take his game to the next level next season. He has been given a lot of leeway and next season he either has to step up or be shipped out.
    Bourque will most likely be part of our third line and he too has to step up and be better. Our fourth line needs to be better in a shutdown role to free p time for Pleks’ line. They need to have size, a good faceoff guy and be strong in our end. White, Blunden and Staubitz may fit this role if White works really hard on his faceoffs, and they all get better defensively. A fourth line center may be found on FA too. Darche will be 13th forward, and Geoffrion will start in the AHL.

  45. Corson27 says:

    Walk the plank? Pierre Gauthier should have been keel hauled for what he did to this team.

  46. Mr_MacDougall says:

    It is rumored that Pat Brisson, the francophone agent of Sydney Crosby, is a candidate for the next GM of the Montreal Canadiens.

    Thoughts?

  47. The Dude says:

    Well…I wonder how this affects the Carey Price and P.K.Subban contract talks.When Gauthier and Gainey asked the Molsons if they could sign Price for $60 million for 7 years is probably when they got canned!

  48. Stev.R says:

    The legacy of PG/BG:

    11/12: Worst record in history. Lead league in injuries during a period when our AHL affiliate was weak. Several underperforming players. Bad start to season. PP suddenly drying up.

    10/11: Lead league in injuries. 2nd in NE. Lost to Boston in OT of game 7.

    09/10: Lead league in injuries. Lost in third round of playoffs after bringing in 12 new roster players.

    08/09: 1st in East until Feb. Every important player gets injured. Finish second in NE. Lose in 1st round.

    07/08: Finished 1 in East. Lost in second round.

    06/07: Missed the play offs due to the last game of the season.

    05/06: Lost to eventual Champions in first round.

    04/05: Lockout

    03/04: Lost in second round. to eventual Champions.

    playoffs: 6/8
    1 conference title.
    Twice to the second round.
    Once to the third round.

    Pretty decent when you remember they missed the playoffs 4/5 times before they arrived.

  49. LafleurGuy says:

    Interesting. Couple of hundred or so people saying the same things doesn’t make it a couple of hundred times more interesting! What was read by few I’m guessing was a brief but pithy exchange of info by HFsince72 and myself about how both Les Canadiens and the Blue Jackets dropped from sixth seeds one year ago to 15th place in their conferences. The Blues rose from out of the playoffs 11th place to first in the west and overall in just one season. St. Louis did not have a 1st round pick last year! The one and only playoff round the Blues played since 2004 was in 2009, and you can look up the result. The point is, there is so much unpredictability in this game and business and I’m soberly optimistic for a much better outcome for next season.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  50. habfan53 says:

    For all of you saying that the next GM and coach “MUST” speak french are you saying that if by some miracle Ken Holland and Mike Babcock became available that they should not be considered?
    Yes I know that times are different than the 60′s and 70′s when the french nationalism was at its peak and we had Selke then Pollock .
    But the BEST available individual has to be hired regardless of language. You can always learn a second language.
    The best way of getting the Rejean Tremblay’s, and Pauline Marois’s to shut up is to WIN,WIN,WIN.

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      I think most people, even die-hard French fans, would acknowledge that hiring a Babcock or a Holland would be fine, because those guys are so MUCH better than EVERYONE else. It’s been PROVEN. They have already had results. However, they would be under enormous pressure to succeed in the short-term, and they would still have to make efforts to learn the language.

      For all the other unilinguals, it is mere speculation that they would do a better job than a Julien Brisebois, a Claude Loiselle, Patrick Roy, etc.

      • pmaraw says:

        so we hire someone who speaks french and meets your french spoken quota, we dont expect short term success even with all the peices we have in place?

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          We both know that if a unilingual anglophone were hired as coach or GM, they would be under MUCH more pressure to win immediately. There would be NO margin for error.

          • habfan53 says:

            In this market there will be no margin for error period.
            Yes a unilingual Anglo will have more pressure but that is the nature of the beast. Anybody who hires second best is doomed to failure

            Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Nobody here in LA is saying the next Dodgers coach has to speak Cuban.

      Really. They’re not.

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        You can’t really compare Montreal as a hockey market to LA as a baseball market. It doesn’t work that way. The Canadiens have a history that is so intertwined with the local culture that it is impossible to look at it as just a sports franchise.

        Also, it would be a lot easier to argue things like this if our last 2 Stanley Cups didn’t come while the team had strong French representation in the front office and on the ice. The locals strongly believe that more French representation could have a beneficial impact on the team’s results. That’s the reality of the market.

        However, just to use your example, the Dodgers cashed in BIG TIME when Fernando Valuenzuela was with the team. That re-connected the fans to the team in the city. there is a great ESPN 30 for 30 doc on that. You should check it out.

        And also, I didn’t realize Cuban was a language. Pretty sure there are also more Cubans in Miami than in LA. I think you are thinking of Mexicans and Latinos in general though. The Miami Marlins have also brought in a Hispanic manager and have made great efforts to bring in Latin players. They also made a run at Yoennis Cespedes, a Cuban defector who was a prized free-agent this winter. Knowing your market is important.

    • New says:

      The GM is going to speak french. The GM doesn’t need to be french-Canadian but needs to be able to speak with the community. I suppose some team in some sport somewhere has a GM who can’t speak the working language of the community. I would expect him to have stigmata, a crown of thornes, and to perform the odd miracle, otherwise he better be able to preach to the crowd not mutter in aramaic.

  51. jols101 says:

    C’Mon, Mr. Molson could not have waited a week to make this announcement?

    This is great news but could have waited till seasons end, simply because a shake up of this magnitude may motivate the players and they might do something stupid like winning the last 4 games.

    We were almost there, the team had no to little motivation to win any of the remaing games. Now, i am not so sure.

    Great news, Great Press Confrence, One Week to Early…

  52. Habsrule1 says:

    Do the Gainey haters forget what kind of team he inherited? Just going from 4 out of 5 years out of the playoffs to 4 out of 5 years in the playoffs is a very good accomplishment. I agree that he made some mistakes but are you serious here?

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • TomNickle says:

      Yes they do. And they forget that Pierre Gauthier was the Pro Scout when Gomez was acquired.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Thanks Tom. Actually, I had forgotten that too….making a lot more sense all of a sudden!
        I actually do think that they both felt getting Gomez would help in getting at least Gionta to sign. Not many UFA’s knocked down the Habs door previously. Gomez was still young enough to think he could get back to form and he was one of the best set-up guys of the previous decade. That being said, throwing McDonagh in on that trade boggles my mind.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • New says:

        Yeah and kindly Uncle George liked americans on the roster. Then he sold the team but didn’t take Scotty with him. Bummer!

    • LafleurGuy says:

      Your uber rational evocation of facts and relevant facts holds little sway with many fans. Those out of playoff years involved among many other things, snide taunting from Leafs fans whose Leafies made the playoffs nine years in a row with Sundin as their leader. That was a mucher gloomier period than this season. I repeat, I am optimistic about next year.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Nobody hates Gainey, that I can think of. But results are results, and we need to acknowledge it hasn’t worked and try something else, that’s all.

      I’ve bagged on Bob the Builder plenty, and I don’t think anyone hates Gomez more than I do, but I’d still quietly cover Bob’s bar tab if I saw him somewhere, I wouldn’t accost him.

      He’s a hero to Habs fans and thus should ever be.

  53. jrshabs1 says:

    Bob Gainey is a Hab legend, that should not be forgotten. Bob led the team to conference final, the 1st since ’93. He may have made a few questionable moves like the Gomez trade, but was Gomez not a key part of the conference final team? Just thank your lucky stars you are not a leaf fan and give Bob a lot of slack. The Russians called him the best player in the world….that’s your Captain #23 Bob Gainey.

    Go Habs Go!!

    • habfan53 says:

      The best player not executive. Nobody is questioning BG as a player and if they are they are fools. Unfortunately the beginning of the end I believe was when his daughter died. I cannot imagine the pain and sorrow he has and is still going thru.

      Also the lack of follow up by the NHL after the lock out we saw a fast and exciting brand of hockey the last 2-3 years it has become a hard and brutal game with head shots and boardings.

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  54. habsfan0 says:

    “a unilingual English GM or Coach has NO chance – Zero- to succeed.”

    ie…xenophobia and tribalism trumps “best qualified” candidate.

    Sad.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      On the “best qualified” issue:

      Qualifications to be a good GM (or coach, for that matter) on a professional sports team are not only limited to ability to make personnel decisions that affect the results on the ice/playing field. Those roles are very public jobs. The people in those positions represent the organization in the media and the community as well. As such, it is important to find someone who is able to handle themselves in the best way possible in the market they are working in.

      Since Montreal is such a unique market because of the culture and language differences, wouldn’t the “best qualified” person be able to handle that in addition to all of the other facets the job requires?

      Personnally, while Gauthier made some questionable moves (all GMs do), I feel his downfall was the way he acted as a representative of the organization and how he dealt with the media, the community and the players as a face of the franchise. Even though he was French-speaking, he seemed to ignore the importance of this.

      Getting someone with superior inter-personal skills and an ability to communicate in French with the media and the locals in addition to solid hockey decision-making skills would make a candidate be the “best qualified” to me.

      • habsfan0 says:

        So,using your logic,one of the main reasons why the Montreal Expos are a defunct sports organization is because “Nos Amours” did not employ a French speaking manager or general manager,and because of this gaffe while playing in “such a unique market because of the culture and language differences”, fans would no longer support them.

        I see.

        While there’s no denying that Le Club de Hockey Canadien is a cultural icon in Quebec vis a vis the Expos, fans are not that closed minded that they will not support a sports team simply because of the language spoken by its front office.

        If the NFL was ever to come to Montreal, it’s quite likely that ITS front office personnel will be rather limited in their ability to speak French.

        Despite this, I am willing to wager that this NFL team will receive OVERWHELMING support from all Quebecois and Quebecoise, regardless of the language they speak.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          The Montreal Canadiens carry a whole lot more history and cultural significance within the community. Also, there are many more French-Canadian players in hockey than in baseball or football. Not the same at all.

          These are all things that make Montreal a unique HOCKEY market. It can’t be business as usual like all other teams in the NHL. That’s not realistic.

      • pmaraw says:

        you think gauthiers’ downfall was how he dealt with the media? really??? REALLY????? Give me a break! Kaberle? Bourque? Last Place? no no no, it was how he talked to the media. I don’t care how the next gm handles the media, if he can build a successful club out of what he has now…

        Seriously tho, I like to hear from the GM now and then as well, but to say this was his downfall is imbecilic. and you go on to say, ya he spoke french, but he forgot to speak enough french…. wtf, is there some benchmark of frenchspeaking to media that needs to be put into place? should they just ramble on until they meet a french words spoken per press conference quota?

        whats gonna happen if they listen to people like you, is they’re gonna hire someone good, not great, or outstanding, just good as a GM. but man oh man, will he ever be able to hit that french speaking quota.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          Obviously, the results this year are terrible and are the main reason why PG got canned. However, I think that he made a number of astute hockey decisions (keeping Price, signing Cole, bringing over Emelin, Gill trade, draft picks, etc.) and that if he were better at the other, more public, aspects of his job, Molson wouldn’t be so quick to get rid of him. The fact is, the biggest mistake PG made was firing Martin and hiring Cunneyworth. That is what created the public backlash and it everything he did after that further tarnished the team’s image with the fans and in the media. These are things that are important to Geoff Molson as a BUSINESSMAN.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          Also, I already stated that fans would accept hiring EXCELLENT candidates like Holland or Babcock, who are proven to be far superior than other candidates. However, anyone else who doesn’t have the proven success is not a lock to be a better GM or coach than a bilingual candidate. It would just be opinion and speculation.

  55. 44har48 says:

    I am disgusted with Bob Gainey the GM, but that’s as far as I can go, I just can’t bring myself to talk badly about him – #23 is still a legend to me.

    I’ve said enough about the past and now it’s onto the future!

    Please consider André Savard as GM and Bob Hartley as coach!!!

  56. The Dude says:

    The Flying Frenchmen are coming back and the Timing is Now! More Francophone’s and Anglophone’s from Les Belle Provence on this team is a sure bet and that = PASSION!

  57. Ali says:

    For the all the bashing of Gainey’s tenure as a manager since the lockout (myself included), he took our team to the conference finals, under George Gillette’s ownership brought the heart beat of this franchise back from the dead (after Andre Savard started the process, to be fair) and has exhibited complete loyalty to the franchise, staying put through the family tragedy and destroyed friendships he was willing to sacrifice to do what he thought was right. He did what he thought was best. It just wasn’t working.

  58. ed lopaz says:

    on the language issue:

    one must understand business, and the Habs are a business valued over 600 million and annual revenues around 200 million.

    one must also understand the media – and how it can “influence” the public.

    well, here is the bottom line, “business reason” why the GM and coach of the Habs must be able to speak French.

    the media will destroy him otherwise.

    period.

    end of discussion.

    so its a bad “business decision” to hire someone and then throw all of your corporate support behind a “lame duck”, a guy who will be torched by the media, and eventually, by the public at large.

    the Habs play in a “media circus” environment.

    one of the requirements of the GM and Coach is to be able to succeed in this ‘environment”.

    a unilingual English GM or Coach has NO chance – Zero- to succeed.

    the GM and Coach need to have some “support”, some “flexibility” from the media.

    if not, and the “bashing” begins from day one, like it did to RC, then the man will never succeed because eventually he will be chased out of town.

    is this right? no, of course not.

    it is business, and business is not always “ethical” and “moral”,

    and sometimes business is not always totally efficient either.

    in this case, the Habs need to make a decision to “protect” the guy they hire, and at least give him a fighting chance to succeed.

    to ignore the facts on the ground, to force an Anglo into the position and force the media and the public to stay quiet about it,

    is a strategy that is doomed to fail from the outset.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I could not disagree more. The quick explanation of why is somewhat explained in my signature. My thanks to Sam Pollock.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • ed lopaz says:

        this is not about “listening” to fans.

        this is about giving a man a job where he can succeed.

        an Anglo can no longer run the Habs successfully.

        it is the reality.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          That’s might be your opinion, but it’s far from reality.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • LA Loyalist says:

          Ed, I rarely disagree with you, but this time I do, and I also apologize for re-posting this rebuttal:

          This argument for a Quebecois coach died the day Ferrari hired a non-Italian driver. It’s a question of putting winning ahead of politics.

          My proof is that that French media would have SCREAMED at Enzo to hire Villeneuve as the best driver available, not to be xenophobic and only hire an Italian. Italians loved Villeneuve, because he was exciting, charismatic and won. They will love a Chinese coach, if he wins.

          As for the Quebec culture, Habs can do a better job of using our Quebec born vets publicly, do a better job of developing local kids, there are many ways to nurture and honor the cultural heritage. But the GM and Coaching jobs need to go to the best men available at that moment in time. And hey, if it’s the return of Serge and Carbo, I’m happy with that, too.

          Basically, I’m sick of mediocrity and thank god so are you and Geoff Molson.

          Let’s be happy today!

          • habsfan0 says:

            Very well phrased, LAL.

            Ever wonder why so many FRANCOPHONE free agent stars refuse to play in Montreal?

            Contrary to popular belief, it’s not because of pressure,taxes,or weather.

            It’s the convoluted logic that permeates throughout the organization.

          • HardHabits says:

            Able to speak French is a criterion to work in Quebec. We make exceptions for hockey players but every effort must be made to find people who can communicate in French. Savard said it doesn’t have to be a Quebecois GM, just preferably someone who can speak French. Habitants and Canadiens means just that.

          • ed lopaz says:

            L.A. – nothing in Montreal is ahead of politics because the media decides what makes the headlines.

            Sure, if an Anglo won the Cup in his first year everyone would shut up for a while, maybe 1 full season.

            But as soon as the Cup was not won again, the doors would open up wide and plenty for unrelenting abuse.

            It is a “reality” of the Montreal Canadiens as a business situated in the Province of Quebec.

            It is naive to believe this will ever go away.

            Maybe Mike Babcock would be the only exception.

            Because he is simply the best and he graduated from Mcgill.

            But even Babcock would improve his French immediately.

            Its how the game is played.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      Well said Ed. Marketing plays a huge role in ANY business. Knowing your market is a BIG DEAL. In this market, unilingual GMs or coaches would actually have WAY MORE pressure to win right away. How would that be a good thing?

      While people like Jim Nill (for GM) and Mike Babcock (for coach) seem great and would be worth chucking the language issue over, the reality is that these guys aren’t available nor will they be.

      As for all other unilingual candidates for the job, nobody can prove that they would be better choices than any of the bilingual options that have been listed. The fact is, there are plenty of very good bilingual coaches and hockey people around the league. PLENTY. Hiring any of them does not limit our chances to succeed.

      I have no problem with French being a requirement for the job, as long as the person hired brings a clear vision to the table that is focused on building a long-term championship-calibre team. Nor more quick fixes. Build the team the right way.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      As much as it sucks, it is very true and you make very good points on the topic in which I agree completely. For some reason I think this is all coming together for Patrick to make his return to the organization as the coach, but for the GM, I’m not so sure. If Patrick doesn’t return now, he may never get a chance, since the Quebec party vying for an NHL team (phoenix) has a retainer on Patrick, paying him for doing nothing. We all hated Boucher leaving the organization, and Muller…….could you imagine the outrage if Roy gets away! I think this site would crash in minutes let alone the city of Montreal!

      Shaker

      • LA Loyalist says:

        Decent point. I was thinking the same trinity, Boucher, Muller, Roy…

        As for HIO’s server, I’m shocked it hasn’t crashed yet today (to my knowledge). :-)

    • jhaze says:

      Ice a winning team and a cup contender and anyone who says to turf the GM/coach/ whoever else because they don’t speak French is a complete moron.

    • Bripro says:

      This is an argument that has neither winner nor loser.
      It all comes down to the product on the ice.
      I agree that it’s preferable to have a bilingual GM or coach, but no one would turn their back on Mike Babcock or Ken Hitchcock.
      The best man for the job is how this should be approached. But you’re right about the media influence.
      That said, I hope they don’t compromise on the quality of either the coach or GM in order to satisfy the masses.

  59. Timo says:

    Hope this GM change doesn’t give this team a sudden boost to win their remaining games. Keep the suck for the next 4 games, boys.

  60. nastyHABit says:

    Been a Habs fan for 54 years,I speak passable french,and i am currently out of a job………Do i qualify

  61. GrimJim says:

    TSN post mortem of PG’s drafting record
    http://www.tsn.ca/montreal/story/?id=391687

  62. Hobie Hansen says:

    Bob Gainey is a heck of a guy. He cares more about the Canadiens than anyone on the planet.

    When he respectfully asked the fans who booed Briesbois to stay home it brought a tear to my eye.

    Right or wrong, when he dismissed Carbonneau right before the playoffs and stepped behind himself I thought it was a clear indication of just how much he cares about the team.

    When he signed the Smurfs a couple summers ago he was under the assumption that it was a new NHL and smaller players with skill could thrive before the league backed off on the new rules.

    Gainey is a great man and I wish him the best!

    • Nova Scotia Voyageurs says:

      Well said……I could not agree more.

    • Timo says:

      He maybe cared, but he still mismanaged them horribly.

    • gp52 says:

      bullshit. he made stupid decisions. The smurfs was a gigantic mistake.

      great player but he deserves to be gone.

    • RetroMikey says:

      Bob Gainey destroyed the team, he blew ship on this team after the 2008-09 season by “retooling” this team by signing sub par smurfs and over the hill free agents and trading a damn good prospect DMan for Gomez to instill “firewagon hockey” back to Montreal which was a recipe for disaster.
      Bob was a great hockey player but a lousy GM.
      Next to be let go I pray…Timmins and his scouting staff and Boivin Jr. who is director of hockey operations, ex-Prez Pierre Boivin Sr’s silver spoon child.
      I just love all these firings!
      God is answering my prayers what needs to be done to this once proud franchise.
      Amen! Amen I say!

      and as always…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

      Tank I say! Tank!

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • saskhabfan says:

        Only a complete clueless moron would fire timmins who during his tenure has more picks playing in the nhl then any other in the league.Which is why i wasn’t surprised HIO’s version of gary busey suggested it. LOL.

        • RetroMikey says:

          lol! I love it saskhabfan when I am right about this team and what needs to be done. Only dinks come on this site to post negative feedback on fans’ comments on this site like you, you are the dink of the day froshhabsfan. frosh in Italian is……….lol!

          “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • gp52 says:

      bullshit. He made some terrible decisions. The blowing up of the team a few years ago was a disaster. The Scott Gomez trade- possibly the worst ever trade in the history of the NHL.

      Gainey deserves to be gone.

  63. habsfan0 says:

    I wonder what front page headline will be in tomorrow’s Gazette..highlights of today’s federal budget or Gauthier getting canned?

    Who am I kidding?

    We ALL know the answer to that.

  64. Cardiac says:

    For all of you who are bringing up the language issue, I got two things to say:

    1. Languages can be learned.
    2. A good interpreter costs annually when Gomez makes in one game.

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    - Jerry Maguire

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Even the U.S. President has a “Press Secretary” who does the daily scrum and takes the beating. No one thinks the Prez himself should do it.

  65. joeybarrie says:

    Bilingual GM or not?
    The best comment I heard about this was something along the lines of let the people keep the culture alive. Its not something you can force. All that does is limit our options.
    The new GM can learn French if they want to. We had an American owner. We have an American Captain. Our two highest scorers are American and we love them like we do our own family.
    Keep hockey out of a political issue. The NHL consists of hockey players from around the world.
    THE ONLY THING A BILINGUAL GM WILL BE ABLE TO DO OVER ONE WHO SPEAKS ONE LANGUAGE IS COMMUNICATE THE MEDIA WELL.
    They do not give out Stanley Cups for being good at interviews.
    Get a translator. Get the best person for the job. Get us a Cup. Let them speak Albanian for all I care. We are a country and Province founded by foreigners anyways.
    Good players, and good deals…. Who really cares if they are able to do an interview with The Gazette and Le Journal. The media are the only ones who care. They are the ones who stir the pot, and the political leaders use it as an opportunity.
    It was said we used to live our lives in 3 places. The school, the church and the hockey rink. Well the last time I visited my hometown, there were a lot of people doing a lot of different things. Its not 1945. We must adapt to the times. Limiting our players, coaches and management will only hurt us. I am sorry to be so brunt… BUT MONTREAL IS NOT ONLY KNOWN AND SHOULD NEVER BE LIMITED TO BEING BILINGUAL.
    We are successful as the best city in the world, to me, because of the wonderful richness and heritage we all share. We have the best food in the world and its not limited to POUTINE AND CHIEN CHAUDE.
    We are a wordly city that is attractive to all.
    Why do we insist of sheltering ourselves? Walk around, talk to people. MOST are from many different countries speaking many different languages. Greek, Italian, Irish, Chinese, Indian, and the list goes on and on.
    Let us CHOOSE.
    We are not a people who FORCE.
    Hockey is a sport. It is not bound by language. Why make it so in only Montreal.
    We wonder why so many talented French Canadien hockey players play out of our market. Cause we expect things of them based on the language they speak, and not the talent they have inside.
    LIMIT THE CHOICES and we LIMIT OUR SUCCESS.
    Molson himself is in a joint venture with Coors to make them a better Company.
    Language does not win Hockey Gamesm

  66. SmartDog says:

    What if the best man is a Dog?

    Just sayin’

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  67. Habsrule1 says:

    I’m very excited for the change. I think Molson has now had time to learn enough about the team he bought to make some decisions. He will now put his stamp on the team.
    Personally, I’m not sold on Savard. He did a decent job…a long time ago. I would have hired Dryden, had he been interested in some type of role (then again he may have lost touch too).
    All that matters is that we get THE BEST GM available, regardless of language, but I do think there are some good bilingual candidates out there for bot the GM and Head Coach position.
    Onward & Upward!

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  68. LA Loyalist says:

    Who’s drinking what tonight? To mourn? To Celebrate. It’s important to mark these times.

    Were I able, it would be Joe Beef and Burgundy, an 05 or an 03. Being here in LA, it will have to be tomorrow night as both my kid and I have games tonight, but it will be a 1998 Veuve Cliquot “La Grande Dame” (I drank all the 02s).

    Salut, mes amigo-sans.

  69. LA Loyalist says:

    Just watched the pressure, twice. Very impressed with Mr. Molson, especially when he said that the standard for the Habs is to fight for the Cup each year, not just be happy to make the playoffs.

    The Bob the Builder era is over. Maybe (and I hope) he will write a book. Maybe there are things we did not or could not know, that will mitigate some of his decisions. One would like to think that history is ultimately fair.

    Mr. Molson really impressed me. I think hiring Serge Savard as “consiglieri” is a good move. Hope you guys are happy, too.

    • shiram says:

      now that the right words have been said, let’s wait to see if the right moves are made

      RC : “Merci beaucoup.”

    • joeybarrie says:

      I have obviously been a supporter of Gainey’s, well forever.
      I’m not surprised that he is gone too, nor do I think it the wrong move.
      However, like when we got rid of Carbo, it makes me sad.

    • Timo says:

      I will be impressed when they win the cup. Until then it’s a lot of hot air.

    • AndyF says:

      Fight for the Cup every year, eh? Sheeesh… The Habs have not learned a thing.

      So, Geoff, you’re telling me that we’re fighting for the Cup next year instead of properly rebuilding this team? Fill that cap space right up to the limit, sell lots of beer, and just expect to go from 28th in the League to fighting for the Cup.

      More of the same baloney, I see!

      Fail to Fail for Nail

  70. habsfan0 says:

    Serge Savard has seemingly contradicted Molson’s comments already. Said new GM will speak French.

    I think Savard just did to Molson what Molson did to Cunneyworth.

  71. Xsteve50 says:

    OK, so the broom came out and a cleanup was done. Now the real work begins, who to replace PG and BG with. He clearly stated, the best person for the job (do you think a KHL GM might have a chance?) An ability to communicate in both languages is preferable but not a must….Any suggestions?

  72. P-Habby says:

    1. Jim Nill – “the best man possible”
    2. Patrick Roy – obsessed with winning
    3. Pierre McGuire – most knowledgeable

  73. Desi says:

    Praise the Lord and pass the poutine!

    Peter Mahovlich has done a great job as the chief NHL scout for Florida. Let’s give Little M a look, Mr. Molson.

  74. boottspurr says:

    A new day dawns.

    Edit: Figuratively… it’s 1:40 in the afternoon, afterall.

  75. Mr. Biter says:

    Yeah, why walk into a Firestorm if you don’t need to and I’m quite sure he is fincially well off. Don’t know how old the goat is but he sure looks old. Any pictures of him before he became Habs GM?

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  76. Stev.R says:

    Lets hope so. Lets hope for that one time no penalty buyout period some have said might come with the new cba

  77. Chester says:

    I hope that The Organization does things the right way with Kaberle and The Mexicant. We have had so much bad press these days we can’t afford another smelly story. Just take them out back and shoot them … but do it at night when it’s dark. Then we have 12 million dollars to sign a badass Dman and a sniper. Voila!

  78. habsfan0 says:

    What did Tonya Harding do to Nancy Kerrigan?

    NOT that I’m condoning this in any way,shape,or form.

  79. LafleurGuy says:

    Rangers went even bigger in eating Wade Redden’s 6 mill.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  80. habsfan0 says:

    I think we can ALL rest easy now that that’s been confirmed.

  81. Stev.R says:

    Yes, let’s do the classy thing and murder them.

  82. habstrinifan says:

    I hate your reference to ethnicity.

  83. Mr. Biter says:

    here we go again.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  84. Timo says:

    It shouldn’t kill you to disagree, my friend. What fun would it be otherwise.

    I mean, for all I know he could actually be a good adviser. Stranger things have happened.

    To let you on a little secret, I have the contract signed already. They just have to put on that Equal Employment opportunity bullshit side show to make sure they cover their rear ends.

    April 10 Timo will be at the draft lottery table as Habs new GM.

  85. secretdragonfly says:

    Amen, brother.


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