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Markov out

Dave Stubbs on P.K. Subban

Stu Cowan on Torrey Mitchell

• Red Fisher on Guy Lafleur

Red’s notebook

Dryden lauds the Legend

François Gagnon on shootouts

45 Comments

  1. WarHero says:

    Well folks, that really sucks about Markov but is not really that surprising. What should PG do with the money? I’d sit back for a bit and see how things unfold. Were still in good shape, no need to spend just yet :) What would you do?

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  2. New says:

    I think it is early to tell. No matter who makes them dumb plays change the course of games. PK isn’t the only one who makes dumb plays. If he learns to play within the team Martin’s gaze is going to fall elsewhere. Otherwise it will be a long winter of dealing with another distraction. The press loves PK and the feeling is mutual. He is good for a quick quote and 500 words.

    I didn’t see much sense in the SK comparison. Sitting didn’t ruin SK’s game. Sitting reflected his game (on pace for 16 points and minus 20 this season).

  3. New says:

    Thanks Steve. That excerpt really sums up what a team is about.

  4. J_P says:

    Good read.

    I think Ovechkins problem is that he’s too arrogant, and has become to absorbed in being a rock star rather than a hockey player.  Ovechkin articles are all about his brash attitude, and party lifestyle, where most Stamkos and Crosby articles you read are about their tireless work ethic, and dedication to improving no matter how much success they have already achieved.  Could just be biast canadian reporting, but you can’t ignore ovechkins stats and the fact that he’s actually on the decline.  Also, if you watch his games regularly, he’s not the same electrifying, Human-highlight-reel alexander ovechkin that we have all grown accustomed to.

  5. 24 Cups says:

    Thanks, Rob.  Us goldens have to stick together:-)  In fact, I’m just about to take my golden retriever (Faith) out for a nice, long walk.  You know what they say, going for a walk through the neighbourhood is a dog’s way of reading the morning paper and catching up on all the latest happenings.

  6. SmartDog says:

    Wow!  Best read of the morning.. (No offense to Boone and Stubbs!)

    The challenge with Piili is shutting down a whole TEAM.

  7. 24 Cups says:

    Ovechkin: A project in progress.  What a great read, especially the part describing how the Habs executed a perfect plan to shut him down last spring in their playoff series with Washington.

    I trust that Coach Martin is working on a similar strategy for Philadelphia for the 2011 playoffs.

  8. SmartDog says:

    Good article on PK.  No surprises there.  The kid is very coachable. He doesn’t sweat the small stuff.  And being sat for a game so they could bring up Webber since they just found out Marky is out long term PLUS giving PK a pause to think about his game is 100% smart leadership. PK is not so full of himself to think it’s all about him.

  9. habsguy says:

    Kinda tough to show his stuff sitting in the press box for 2 games now…I understand everything you’re saying,  I just find it hard to swallow that he can go from ice time leader to the press box.

  10. habsguy says:

    Lats and SK weren’t leading the team in minutes played were they….To me,  if I’m trying to win every game,  I’m putting my best chance of winning on the ice every night.  You can’t compare Lats or SK’s sitting to PK’s,  PK leaves it on the ice every game.  The press box is for someone like Kovy who has all the talent in the world but tried only when he wanted to try.  I said PK is taking it alot better than I would,  you agree’d with me when you said ” trust me he hates it “.

    And the part about going from team leader in ice time to the press box,  that was me doing the wondering.

    Oh and before you shoot this down,  think about what you said about Lats and SK and they’re attitude, ” How’d that work for them”….SK will always be SK,  but it sure didn’t hurt Lats did it?

    Nonsense like accepting your press box role will make your game suffer.

  11. twocents says:

    It’s not about accepting, it’s about using it to improve, instead of making it a crutch.

    As for Lats you sure weren’t paying attention this October when the Wild went public with their disappointment over his conditioning and attitude. And how he was dropped to the third line. And how the Wild have already suggested they were less than happy with their decision to sign him at the money they did. All this is reflected in his reaction to his benching, which failed to understand it or learn from it whatsoever.

    “To me,  if I’m trying to win every game,  I’m putting my best chance of winning on the ice every night.” – In my opinion, I am trying to win games while keeping an eye on the big picture, like the more important spring games. If a young, extremely important player is developing some bad tendencies, I address them, if the message isn’t getting through, I take further action, because I don’t want a special player developing bad habits or reinforcing already existing ones.

    Every player and every situation is different. Benching doesn’t always mean the same thing. Robinson was benched when he came up, he rode with the black aces numerous times. Now’s the time to do it, when Subban’s a rookie. 

    I do agree with you that he hates it. And that’s good. Stirring up this fire is good for a player who can turn it into a positive.

    Oh, and I am not trying to shoot your ideas down. I am trying to debate
    the merits of what you suggest.


  12. habsguy says:

    I understand what you’re saying…BUT,  in the case of Lats,  conditioning and attitude are part of what makes PK great.  I don’t want him sitting in the press box watching Spacek or Gomez and wondering why he is there and not them.  I would,  as we agree,  hate it!!!

    Gotta say though, I love the debate,  thanks..

  13. twocents says:

    Knowing PK he’s not sitting there looking at Gomez and Spacek and asking why me. He’s likely thinking about how he’s going to show Martin how he can improve. And that’s what Martin wants.

    Always fun to explore an idea a little deeper.

  14. gauver says:

    I am looking at the goaltender stats on nhl.com and I can’t find Halak.  Is he hurt?  Did he quit?  Does anyone know?  Oh, never mind; I found him.  I just had to scroll down the list…..

  15. sholi2000.com says:

    My favourite Fisher story was about four years ago.  It was basically all about Patrick Roy and his many sides as a player, manager, coach and person. 

    I can’t remember the complete story by memory.  It was all about Roy and a very sick little boy, in the end the little boy was smiling. 

    I wish I could tell it better, as can bring tears to a man’s eyes.  I know someone will be able to find it here and post the actual story. 

    Funny, he’s (Red) writing about things that happened years ago and I can’t remember yesterday……fn wars!

    They Call Me Shane

  16. habitual says:

    I suppose most of us wonder what the prognosis is for those in Marky’s situation.  Does anyone remember what became of an NHLer who had two such surgeries in the same year?

     

  17. bigjames says:

    well big james went to selwyn too… eons beofre the young mitchell (dj tiga is another famous alumnus). good for him and all but still, habs need to win this one. let young mitchell socre a goal in a losing effort but other than that, who cares! go habs go!

  18. habsguy says:

    PK is taking his press box role alot better than I would.  I’m still trying to figure out how you go from,  being good enough to lead the team in minutes played to,  being so bad you don’t dress !!!!!

  19. twocents says:

    PK seems to understand that it’s not about, “being so bad you don’t dress !!!!!”

    It’s about a learning process. It’s about getting perspective. It’s about slowing down to see how your decisions affect the team.

    He mentioned he’s been benched at nearly every level. Do you think he was the soooo bad when Boucher benched him last year? 

    The way he is taking it, is the way players with long careers take it. Trust me he hates it, you can hear that, but he respects it and wants to learn from it.

    Your comment above sums up the attitude that Lats and Sergei likely had. How’d that work for them? You start focusing on nonsense like that and your game is guaranteed to suffer. 

     

     

  20. SmartDog says:

    That’s because you’re seeing the press box only as punishment.  For a rookie especially, but even for anyone, it’s a chance to take a step back and reflect. 

    When Auld plays, does that mean Price is being punished?

  21. CanadienBoy says:

    How long before Burky fire Wilson,which is his last option

  22. SmartDog says:

    BECAUSE it’s his last option is why he won’t.  Say he brings in another coach and the team still sucks. Now there’s no-one to blame but Burkie.

  23. J_P says:

    The fact that people are calling for burke to fire wilson is reason enough for burke NOT to fire wilson.  A lot of his decisions are out of pride and spite. 

  24. MannyR says:

    So I’m at emergency on Friday afternoon at the Jewish General and
    who do I see? Andre Markov standing in front of the vending machines in
    the public lounge area. I walk towards him and say “How you doing
    Andre?”.

    He looks at me, blank stare, turns around, and walks away. No limp.

    True story

  25. twocents says:

    Oh sure, it’s all a ruse, he’s faking the injury.

  26. soflohabsfan says:

    Walking is not problem with his type( had my ACL redone 10 years ago) it’s the lateral movement that’s is the problem. If you saw him run 20 yard post route and make that cut to the middle then I would ask questions.

  27. HabFanSince72 says:

    Maybe it wasn’t him.

     

  28. punkster says:

    I’m calling BS…Manny from Thornhill.

  29. 24 Cups says:

    Ron Santo dies at the age of 70.

    When I was a boy, there were no Blue Jay or Expo teams in MLB.  My favourite team was the Chicago Cubs and Ernie Banks was my hero.  A close second was Ron Santo.  It’s difficult to believe that he’s gone, especially at the relatively young age of 70.  I once wrote him a letter telling him about our softball games up here in Canada and dreams of maybe getting a major league ‘hardball’ team.  He wrote back with a note and a signed photo.  That was big stuff when you’re just ten years old.

    The Toronto Maple Leafs had a team in the International League and I would pretend that I was Steve Demeter, who played 3rd base just like Ron Santo.  The games were down at the old ball field by the CNE near Tip Top Tailors. Rocky Nelson and Sparky Anderson were also on those teams.  Life was simple back then – hockey in the winter and baseball all summer long.  In between I was Dick Shatto, one of the greatest Argos of all time.  Sitting here now, it seems like it was just yesterday.

    Rest in peace, Ron.

  30. Psycho29 says:

    Ron Santo was a great ball player….saw him play often in the Expos early years at Jarry Park…

    You talk about getting a signed picture back from him. When Hank Aaron was chasing Babe Ruth and getting lots of hate mail, I sent him a letter (I was around 14) wishing him good luck. I was so happy when I received  an autographed picture in a Braves envelope. Judging by the handwriting, Aaron even wrote the address on the envelope himself. I still have the pic and the envelope….

    I wonder if today’s superstars would return a signed picture through the mail to a young fan?????

  31. adam76 says:

    Its true.  Hes actually a Russian spy – trying to steal the plans of the air forces most valuable asset – the seakings!.

  32. 123456 says:

    canada has an air force? ? ?

  33. Clay4bc says:

    What concerns me is the fact that he didn’t even acknowledge a fan. Not very sociable behavior, but I guess he’s always been known to be a bit shy…

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  34. SmartDog says:

    See it in context.  He’s in a hospital because his year and maybe his career even is ruined.  He should smile and chat?  Give him a break .

  35. habsguy says:

    Give him a break???????…would it be to much for him to say “HI” with a smile to someone who helps pay him millions a year before he turns and walks away. 

  36. Clay4bc says:

    Well, no need to give him a break – I didn’t really rag on him. I even acknowledged that he is known to be shy. I think I did see it in context, and even commented on said context.

    But as Habsguy pointed out, it doesn’t take a lot to smile and say hi. To a fan.

    If “Manny” was the girl represented in his avatar, I bet Markov would have said “hi” though. Maybe a lot more…

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    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  37. punkster says:

    You’re all assuming this guy…from Thornhill…actually saw Markov…in the JG…in Montreal.

  38. soflohabsfan says:

    So with Marky off the book when does PG go after that top 6 winger and who does trade to get him? Does trade a roster player an possibly mess with the team chemistry or unload some prospects? I think Gallagher would be great trade bait if makes team Canada and has a good tournament. The way I see it is yes he is having a great year in the WHL and that he was excellent at the prospects and rookie camps but he is at least 3 to 4 years for the NHL and alot can happen in that time I would be willing to sacafice his potential to win now.

  39. 24 Cups says:

    I seriously doubt that Gallagher would bring much in a trade.  He went undrafted until the 5th round so most teams are probably still leary of his size.  Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see him make the Habs one day but there’s only so much room for small players in the NHL.  Two or three would be the most for any one team.

  40. SmartDog says:

    I think there would be SOME interest if he makes the juniors etc. as suggested. 

    But I think we wouldn’t get what his potential is worth. He may not make it, but I think he will and would hate to see him go for the little we would get back. In that I agree with you.

  41. soflohabsfan says:

    Sorry 24 I wasn’t clear I was saying use him as part as a package his value whatever it may be could be tempting to some teams.

  42. J_P says:

    Burke technically didnt hire wilson, so he can get away with firing him.  If Wilson’s replacement can’t produce, than its all on Burke.

     


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