Morning off for Canadiens

A morning skate after an effort like last night’s 3-0 mess in Atlanta probably won’t do a team a lot of good. So the Canadiens have canned their morning session today ahead of tonight’s Bell Centre contest against the Buffalo Sabres, who are coming off a 3-1 home ice win last night over Toronto.

Recent history suggests the Habs are due for a win. After having won four straight, the team has gone loss-win-loss-win-loss in its last five games.

No word yet who plays goal for Buffalo against Montreal’s Carey Price. Ryan Miller, who looked excellent with 35 saves against Toronto last night upon his return from a two-game groin injury, would bring a 17-7-5 lifetime record vs. the Habs into the game.

78 Comments

  1. SeriousFan09 says:

    So he was going to get called for helping the other team score with that stupid move? Hardly. He’s not better than 5 of the 6 defencemen on the team right now and if Markov was around this wouldn’t be discussed about him being ‘missed’ with his size he doesn’t fit into the lineup, he has no reach at all and he couldn’t do shutdown work.

    I miss a few guys on the roster now and then but Bouillon wasn’t one of them, his lack of size on D cost them of plenty of times as he could barely cut down a passing lane or do anything against big players most of the time.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  2. terrygain says:

    Francis is currently 195th in penalty minutes. In his years with the Habs  he averaged about 50 -60 penalty minutes  per season. These are clearly not hot head numbers.  His junior numbers are high and that is obviously where you formed your opinion which you failed to adjust to suit the facts of is pro career.   It happened more than once that he pushed someone into the goalie and the other team scored. Wow, cut him loose.  He was a bargain. I miss him. 

  3. jrshabs1 says:

     What’s that supposed to mean? Who’s complaining? Actually I will complain about your use of a double negative. Mind your own business!!

     

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  4. Psycho29 says:

    Keep up the great work Dave….Complainers will always complain!!!!

  5. terrygain says:

    Some people form their impression of a player from bits of information, or even one memorable play,  which are inconsistent with overall performance. Robert Rice, for instance, claims Frankie The Bull is a hot head.  

  6. terrygain says:

    Mr Stubbs,

    Rather than deleting his post, you should have posted a Reply thanking him for pointing out the error – which has been corrected. 

  7. ctony says:

    a team can qualify an rfa at 100% of his current salary.  means cgy could retain ak at the same salary next year.

  8. SeriousFan09 says:

    I know the Habs are short a couple of pieces of being a Contender and that’s if Markov can get back in the lineup, they’re a couple forwards short of being where they need to be and I don’t think Hamrlik-Spacek are viable 60 games from now in the playoffs with their good and bad nights coming at the flip of a coin.

    The issue I see is that when the team does set up their play, they’re not finishing. I hate to say it and it’s annoying to but the Habs lead the league in missing open nets it seems, always missing out on a chance and making the goalie look like Carey when he’s more like whichever punching bag TBL have stuffed into their nets on a given night.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Phaneuf was not well-liked by the end of his tenure by the Flames fans, or the locker room in general. Iginla is Calgary, ownership know he goes, their season tickets renewal are taking a major nosedive and the fans are going to want their heads. It’s all about the money Mike and Iginla is the reason Calgary fans care about that team, he’s been their hero for a decade.

    So far, the CGY ownership is fine as long as the Saddledome is filled up and don’t mind Sutter’s general incompetence to date, they may clean house this summer at last but Iginla is too valuable as the face of the franchise to let go for a pick and a guy who isn’t killing it scoring wise.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  10. mike g says:

    Are you forgetting the Phaneuf trade?

    Were talking about Darryl Sutter here.

    Not saying Phaneuf was worth more, but Sutter traded him for spare parts on a 92 Civic.

    Iginla wants out, trust me. He’s being used like a 3rd liner, not included in shootouts and/or crutial late game situations.

    He costs 7 mill on the cap, something most teams can’t even afford.

    So his value is low, very low.

    By the time the Flames find a team that can afford him on the cap, AND who’s owner is willing to pay an extra 7 mill on his low-budget sunbelt team, his value has decreased even more.

    CGY must rebuild and they know it.

    If they can get a 1st round pick for Iginla, plus a roster player who’s capable of playing some top 6 minutes, like AK, they might do it.

    Not saying AK will be enough, it might cost something else.

    But all I’m saying is getting Iggy would adress many needs on this team.

    And re-signing AK for a couple more years would continue to set us back, since he will surely get an increase on his already overpaid 3.25 mill per year contract.

    Find a way to get Iggy, and he will improve our team like crazy. 

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  11. mike g says:

    If you’ve played hockey, you’d know what I’m talking about…

    It’s not always about a Stevens-like hit. It’s about the psychological fear.

    Giving no effort is one thing, but being affraid to give the effort is another.

    And that’s the category we fall into. Were scared to give the effort of going into the corners and getting hit, that’s why u don’t see those big hits.

    When I see Cammy floating last night, it’s not always because he’s lazy. It’s because he doesn’t wanna go into the corner and perhaps get a slash behind the leg and/or get hit solidly.

    I saw Brent Sopel, a guy who can’t skate or play hockey for his life, lie down on the ice twice last night while our guys were giving him sticks to the ribs, yet he held onto the puck and handpassed it to a teamate, which resulted into a 3 on 2 for ATL.

    Cammy wouldn’t have done that last night, once again not because he’s lazy, but because he was affraid of the aftermath pain.

    So don’t be too quick to always blame it on laziness. Most of the time it’s fear.

    I know you always try stay positive, and think there aren’t many things wrong with this team. But in these cases, if you’ve played the game at a high level, you’d be able to see this.

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  12. SeriousFan09 says:

    I love it when people insist that it is blatantly obvious to everyone that a player who they see as a lazy mercenary is useless, but we can swap him for a guy like Iginla. Perhaps we can also move Scott Gomez for Ryan Getzlaf straight-up?

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  13. SeriousFan09 says:

    What I saw last night was not a team that was being destroyed by checking, but one that couldn’t make their own gameplan work, a disinterested skill team can’t win a game. Their coordination was bad, passes ended up out of reach or in a player’s skates far too often and they weren’t skating with urgency.

    No Flyer delivered a Stevens-level check that destroyed a Habs player and intimidated them, the Canadiens stopped playing the way they’d been attacking in the 1st period and that’s what happened, Flyers stuck to their gameplan but the Habs abandoned theirs. They never attacked well against NSH or ATL and that’s what did them in. Habs didn’t take a sunbelt team seriously (Surprise surprise) and it cost them. They don’t attack with their skill game and maintain it, this is what it looks like.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  14. mike g says:

    Agree…

    We have one of the top goalies in the league this year, something very important come playoff time.

    We have a decent defensive group, not overly physical, but when on their game they can frustrate and shut down the opposition.

    But our problem is our forwards and the scoring.

    It’s not normal that we’ve been shut out 4 times this year. Price has one of the lowest goal-support ratio’s in the whole league, yet he’s winning us games. That’s how good he’s been for us.

    We shouldn’t be scoring 2 goals against Toronto, and being shutout by ATL, NSH, etc…

    Remember the game against Tampa that we blew?

    Remember how Malone scored his goal in OT? Right infront of Price, smashing away at that puck as if he wanted to crack it into pieces.

    That’s what we need. Sandpaper. Not saying Malone is the perfect example, but Jarome Iginla is.

    Please Gauthier, get us Iginla.

    Trade AK and a 1st round pick to CGY, and get us Jarome.

    Sell AK while he still has some value, cuz everyday he’s falling more and more into his hibernation.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  15. rocketsglare says:

    What Stamkos and Ovechkin have in common: big, strong, and consistent scorers. What the Habs don’t

    have up front. Yes the Habs did defeat Boston, Philadelphia, and Vancouver, but they also lost to Atlanta,

    Nashville, and Toronto. The Habs in a protracted series against a much bigger and stronger opponent that

    can also move the puck and score, IMO will more than likely win because they would have worn down the

    smaller and lighter Habs. Whether we like it or not, their is precedence that size, strength, and talent in a

    short series will normally come out on top. I grant you that anything can happen in a playoff series, but I

    simply believe that this team must become bigger and stronger up front while becoming more physical in

    the back end. The Habs would be able to play both a finesse or power game, something they have lacked

    for years.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

     

     

     

  16. mike g says:

    The physicallity garbage is ture….

    When teams play physical with us, we can’t compete. Our forwards trying to do that extra move to avoid the hit, and the other team stops us.

    Last night ATL was physical with us. Sure we didn’t care and played with no emotion, but there’s no reason for us not crashing the net and willing to take the hit to score the goal.

    LA, BOS, and VAN played us different. If you watch VAN play vs Western Conference teams, they’re very physical games with lots of hits. For some reason, against us they decided to open it up and play pond hockey and we won. Same goes for LA, usually a physical team who wanted to play fancy and we got them. The BOS game was somewhat the same, but Price was the reason we won that game.

    All I’m trying to say is we need toughness. I’m not talking about fighters, I’m talking about guys who can be pushed around and still deliver instead of shying away.

    Cammy gets shy and scared when he gets hit.

    Same thing for Andrei.

    Gionta doesn’t. And that’s what I’m talking about when I say we need toughness.

    Marty ST-Louis doesn’t shy away from the physical stuff.

    We need guys who have ballz, because there are too few of them on this team.

    Tom Pyatt plays with more ballz than Cammy.

    I’m not saying this team is in trouble. All I’m tryingt o say is most guys have to man up and look at themsleves in the morrior and wake up. We’ve thrown away way too many games this year due to lack of effort and being scared. Against Philly, in the 2nd n 3rd period we were crapping ourselves and not once went infront of Boucher to get a robeound. We shot from the high slot, and nobody was infront getting slashed in order to pick up one of Boucher’s 20 feet rebounds.

    Same thing last night, only Gionta was infront willing to pay the Price.

    Notice how many Sabres players will be infront of Carey tonight trying to get in his way, push him around in the crease and make him feel uncomfortable.

    We won’t be doing that to Miller, or very few of us will. We will let him do his job of stopping pucks, and only try score pretty goals from the high slot or rely on our non-Viagra powerplay.

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  17. habstrinifan says:

    Maybe because Gionta does not have all the attributes natural and otherwise that Kovalev has but gives you a solid effort with what he has. Kovalev on the other hand plays like a dilettante.. if you use the definition “showing frivolous and superficial interest”.

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    For crying out loud why is it the physicality garbage again? We beat Philly, we beat Boston, we beat Vancouver when they were supposed to grind us into the boards. Montreal skated and won, they did not skate against these teams and they lost, that was the difference. They took the foot off the petal when they saw how weak Boucher was on a Lap’s goals and that was the ball game. They took too long to actually care about the result in NSH and ATL and that did them in as well.

    MTL did not play like ATL mattered, the games they have been whacked this season with an embrassing loss all stem from the same thing, they’re not caring until it’s too late to make it happen because they don’t have a Stamkos or an Ovechkin to rip the game wide open.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  19. mike g says:

    Oh, these Habs….

    Will they win tonight?

    My guess is no. Buffalo always plays strong against us, and Miller is back in nets for them. Vanek always manages to score, and watch that midget Ennis pop one in too.

    While were enjoying success in the standings, it’s really apparent that this addition of the Habs is missing that little “punch” that would place them among the elite.

    When Pleks has a bad game, we can’t win. And if Price doesn’t make crazy saves, we ain’t winning either.

    They’ve been laying stinkers everywhere over the past week. Nashville, Philly and last night. All ugly games to watch. NSH and ATL played physical against us, and we couldn’t score. When Philly woke up in the 2nd and started playing physical, we crumbled and gave them the game for free.

    Another thing that’s been piss!ng me off is Cammy. I don’t care what all of you guys think about him, but this year he’s playing like a pretty boy, and nobody has the ballz to criticize him. Last year is last year, and this year he’s not delivering the goods. He’s playing lazy, and he’s scared to get hurt. He’s floating around the ice and not getting involved.

    Compare him to Gionta who’s breaking his face every game, but the pucks just not going in for him.

    Cammy also seems jelous that he didn’t get the C. I don’t know that for sure, because I’m not around the team, but that’s how it seems. And he kinda makes me think that he’s like that kid on your team that complains when he doesn’t score goals. You know that kid, that when your team wins 6-0 and he didn’t score, he’s still all moody after the game? Yeah, that’s who Cammy reminds me of.

    Anyways, sorry for being so negative, but that’s what the Habs are doing to me right now.

    There are too many holes in important roles on this team.

    The need for a gamebreaker is alarming. Why couldn’t anyone pop in a goal vs NSH, PHI, or ATL at a crutial time to even the score or put us back in the game?

    Anyways, all I know is my feeling for tonight is that Price will have a really solid game, as usual, and we will fail to score more than 2 goals.

    Jarome Iginla, please.

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  20. SeriousFan09 says:

    Was he misunderstood in PIT and in New York as well? Montreal isn’t the first town to call him a floater. Supposedly one of the most talented players on the ice ever, he’s got 4 30 goal seasons in 17 years and two years where he went over 80 points.

    This a guy who while incredibly talented, was a bit too arrogant about that talent and believed he could beat 2-3 people and dance around them every time with his stickhandling when entering the offensive zone. He never consistently worked under the idea ‘less is sometimes more’ and wanted to put on a show and as an entertainer, good for him that’s fantastic when he’s against weak teams or a weak pairing, or the All-Star Game but every night, that’s not a consistent winning strategy. No one here is really defending Gomez’s output right now but even when Kovalev was slumping around and floating non-stop… people still defended him because they wanted to see some cute play that only works 1 time out of 50.

    Gionta works hard and you can see it, he hasn’t been trying to skate through 4 people, have it not work than try it again on his next shift because he figures this time his stickhandling will amaze them so much they won’t try to stop him. You know what happens when you take incredible stickhandling and use it every night? You get Pavel Datsyuk, the most complete player in the NHL.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  21. Patient No More says:

    I grow weary of reading how the team is too small after a loss and how they play with heart following a win.  I assume JM will continue the practice of constantly shuffling his lines in a apparent effort to confuse the opposition.  How is that working for you ? What other reason could there be ?  In addition, we can only hope that he plays Gomez at least 18 minutes, or more.  In fact, perhaps he should simply play 60 minutes.  It seems the coach is of the opinion that under performing players like Gomez and our Captain, ( has anyone seen him recently?) are about to break out, given more time on the ice.  Why don’t we just take a pass on every other game so that our prima donna’s don’t get tired.  

    Please excuse the cynical tone to this post.  I remain… patient no more.

  22. SeriousFan09 says:

    He was, he got pushed in the crease, he pushed back and pushed them into the goalie and helped the other team score more than once, also the king of the blind pass from behind the net on the old squad, never looked where he was sending it and it became a turnover way, way too often.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  23. JohnBellyful says:

    That’s never good. Read what I wrote backwards to unfreeze. Might make more sense. If that doesn’t work, enjoy the brrrrzzzzz.

  24. K-hab25 says:

    Kovy was and still is a floater. The guy through out his career has been one of the the most talented players in the world, Cammy and Gionta are not. To go with that talent, Kovy is 6′ 2 and built like a tank, Cammy and Gionta are not. Kovy would skate 1 on 4 and when it worked it looked great and made bugs wet, but when it didn’t he rarely skated hard to get back in the play, Cammy and Gionta always skate hard. He basically, IMO, never took full advantage of his obviously superior skill level and abilities. He’s an extremely frustrating guy to have on your team. He does as much harm, as he does good. Everyone says the same thing about him, well except his ever shrinking blind faith fanbase. Kovy was a waste of talent. Imagine if you took 5′ 7 Gionta, who’s got good talent and made him 6′ 2 with great talent, how great he would be. Why? WORK ETHIC!!!

  25. habsforthecup says:

    Michael Cammalleri is Gangster – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-sHylkKDh4  Pretty awesome stuff.
    - A

  26. Danno says:

    For sure. That’s why I’m begining to fear that Oilers game now.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  27. Bugs says:

    We need crowds in the stands, man. It’s our Achilles heel to play in deadzones.

    Does that work? Waitaminnit, Nashville came HERE, right?

    Aw, nevermind.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  28. Bugs says:

    The Artiste could perform magic tricks. Take the puck through the whole d-corps with dipsy-doos that made your jaw drop before sending a rocket top corner. When he did that, he appeared dominant. So much so, that if he could do it so dominantly, why wasn’t he doin it all the time?

    Well, because he was obviously loafin. Nevermind that the other teams ALSO had talented players trying to STOP him, no, he was loafing cuz he would only manage to do it “1-in-4″ games.

    I also call bullspit. He was ALWAYS tryin; didn’t always work is all.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  29. SmartDog says:

    In case you want to go further, I hear Stubbs likes Scotch.

    Time to head out into the snow…. thx for making the board interesting on a lazy Saturday!

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  30. J_P says:

    I sure hope we dont lose to them.  Unlike atlanta and Nashville, Edmonton is actually a bad team haha They may have talent, but man are they disfunctional and devoid of passion. 

  31. jrshabs1 says:

     Used correctly it’s just another ism. And I meant it as a joke for dictator. No disrespect to Italy circa, 1922-1943.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  32. SmartDog says:

    I’m with you on this. 

    At this level you’re also playing against excellent competition every night. Not only do you have to battle that but your also competing with yourself. Most players have some sense of what they need to have a good game or a good season but no game is a cakewalk no matter how good your skills are.  Watch Cammalleri – the playoffs #1 goal scorer. This guy plays hard every game and has such a dynamite shot but how many good ones has he gotten off this year? 

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  33. Danno says:

    Me too. When is the next non-rivalry and lack-of-passion test? Could it be Edmonton on Wednesday? If we lose to them, I think it will prove there really is a pattern.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  34. SmartDog says:

    Totally joking

    I do think facist is one of those words that should be used carefully though.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  35. J_P says:

    Whether its true or not I can’t say for certain cause I havent really pulled stats, but so far this season, it certainly seems that way.  Its not the losses to nashville and atlanta so much as the way we lost to them that makes me feel that way. 

  36. jrshabs1 says:

     We all make mistakes. You covered your’s up in a clean sweep. I was just poking fun 1st thing on Saturday morning. You are and always will be my fav. Habs reporter even  though you carry all the power at the HIO site……;)

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  37. J_P says:

    For some reason people expected the world from kovalev, but apparently people here dont seem to have those same expectations of Gomez, Gionta and Cammy.  Cammy is a streaking as they come, but I dont hear anyone accusing him of loafing or not trying when he’s on a cold streak.

  38. Dave Stubbs says:

    Fascist? Far out! I’ll add that to the list of things I’ve been called.

    The correction was made maybe 15 seconds after the post went up. Was there a point in leaving back to back comments that read, “You’re wrong,” “You’re right.” If you’re offended, post them both again and I’ll leave them for all to enjoy.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  39. Danno says:

    Morning off for Canadiens. How come? They sure took the evening off yesterday.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  40. JohnBellyful says:

    There’s always debate over how much a forward contributes to a team beyond goals and assists. There are a number of detailed statistical analyses out there but I’m not aware of a system that tries to use the different categories to arrive at an overall evaluation of a forward’s performance – but then I don’t get out much. Consider this my contribution to any that exist and my apologies if it closely resembles systems now in place). 
    Plus/minus points in 10 categories would be determined as follows, with + obviously for a takeaway, for example, and a – for a giveaway:

    Goal 10 pts    Shorthanded goal 12 pts
    Assist 5 pts    Shorthanded assist 7 pts
    Plus/minus 3 pts
    Generate exceptional scoring opportunity (GESO) without goal being scored (ie, breakaway pass) 2 pts
    Takeaways/giveaways 1 pt If it leads directly to a goal 10 pts (ie, Komarisek’s pass to Cammalleri would earn MK -10 pts)
    Hit 1 pt
    Penalty – 3 pts Penalty in other team’s end -4 pts If other team scores on PP – 10 pts
    For every 30 seconds player is on successful penalty kill 1 pt
    Blocked shot 1 pt
    Face-off won 1 pt for each 5 percentage points over/under 50 per cent

    A goal is worth twice as much as an assist as two people can earn points from assists on the same goal. Shorthanded goals and assists are worth slightly more because the players are playing at a disadvantage and a score at that point can change momentum in a contest and be a turning point.
    Plus/minus is assigned a lesser value because the statistic doesn’t tell the whole story. Some players can be punished/rewarded for simply being on the ice when a goal is scored without having been a factor in the play (such as just having left the bench seconds earlier).
    A player assessed a penalty should be … penalized in the rating system as well because, while there are good penalties, more often than not they are unnecessary or the result of being out of position, and sidetrack teams from going on the offensive. The stupid ones, those committed in the offensive zone, are even more of a negative. And the player who’s in the box when a goal is scored is punished accordingly.
    Some value is accorded the team’s penalty killers by recognizing their contribution in killing off a penalty according to their level of participation.

    Here’s how it would look, with the points in parentheses:

    Forward A: 1 goal (10), 1 assist (5), 2 more takeaways than giveaways (2), minus 1 (-3), 1 GESO (2), 4 hits (4), penalty in offensive zone, other team scored -14, 2 blocked shots (2) 0 Face-off
    Rating: + 8

    Forward B
    0 goals, 2 assists (10), 3 more takeaways than giveaways (3), plus 2 (6), 1 GESO (2), 0 penalties, three successful PK (78 seconds) (2), 1 blocked shot (1) won 53 per cent of Face-off (1)

    Rating: + 25

    Player A and Player B finished the game with the same number of points, but Player B had much more of an impact, the numbers would suggest.
    Obviously, many more statistics could be incorporated into the number crunching, including TOI (in the offensive end versus defensive end), and shots for and against during shifts, but that would complicate what is meant to be relatively simple. The rating system’s true value would emerge the longer the season went, as the players’ relative worth to a team would become more evident than one based on points and plus/minus alone.

    As for assigning a value to intangibles (locker room presence, leadership, choice of pre-game music …), you’d have to speak to the coach and general manager.

  41. jrshabs1 says:

     I hope you are joking dog, if not you really aren’t that smart.

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  42. SmartDog says:

    Is calling someone dumbass disrespectful?

    How about facist?

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  43. jrshabs1 says:

     The story originally said that Habs were losers of 4 in a row. I pointed out the mistake with Ha Ha!!! No disrespect. Lesson to all HIO members don’t correct the creators….or else!

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  44. Danno says:

    What was the error — and did you point it out in a disrespectful way?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  45. jrshabs1 says:

     I can’t believe that some HIO mod or Stubbs himself deleted my post because I pointed out an error in the story that has since been corrected.  I was unaware  that HIO was run by a facist regime….I will always love the Habs but I refuse to fall inline. If this is my last post.I want everybody to know that I did it for you……Ha Ha!!!

    Go Habs Go!!

  46. Danno says:

    That’s true. And I see your point now. I guess the absence of a historic rivalry results in a disadvantage to the Habs — who wind up playing with less intensity than they would against lesser teams where a good healthy hate and/or fear exists.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  47. HabFanSince72 says:

    Rick Dudley is a genius.

    Although poor Don Waddell got canned even though he built the foundation of that team.

     

     

  48. J_P says:

    100%.  Big Buff is a force! That’s exactly the type of the player the habs could have used.  

    They dont have any true offensive studs at this point, but they work hard and play a great team game.  They also have a great young core that will only improve (Little, Kane, Brumistov, Bogosian…). Getting rid of Kovalchuk was the best thing they ever did. 

  49. J_P says:

    I never said Atlanta was a bad team in any capacity.  I think they are a very good young team on the rise.

    Allow me to clarify, I said that the habs wake up for high emotion games against rivalry teams (Toronto, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, carolina etc…) and for top teams (kings, vancouver etc….).  We dont have history or huge rivalries with teams like nashville and Atlanta, and although good teams, they arent exactly those games that you would consider a measuring-stick type game.

    Certainly Nashville and Atlanta are FAR superior teams than toronto, and both are probably as good or better than carolina, but they arent teams that we have a bitter history with, or top teams in the league which the habs use to measure where they are at.  Thats the point I was making. 

  50. Danno says:

    Pigpen should give skating lessons to Benny Pouliot and Hal Gill.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  51. Danno says:

    It wasn’t a good effort by the Habs to be sure, but it wasn’t against a bad team. Atlanta shouldn’t be taken lightly. They shutout Washington 5-0 last Friday and beat Detroit 5-1 on Wednesday. They’ve won four in a row and sit in a playoff spot in eigth place in the conference. They look like they mean business.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  52. HabFanSince72 says:

    That may be true, but Atlanta are  good. They fight hard on every play and have a very solid goalie. Those Chicago castoffs had something to do with that Stanley Cup win.

     

  53. HabFanSince72 says:

    A follow-up on the big Kovy debate of yesterday.

    One of my points is that the view of Kovy as a floater who takes every other game off is a misperception. In my opinion he always tried as hard as anyone but it just didn’t look that way to people.

    I’d be interested to hear why for example Brian Gionta (one assist in his last 5 games, -3) isn’t “floating”, but if Kovalev went through the same stretch he would be. (Same goes for Gomez I guess).

    This isn’t to attack Gionta, but more to suggest that there is an issue of distorted perception at work.

     

     

     

  54. J_P says:

    This team still hasn’t learnt to wake up for games against teams like atlanta and nashville.  We’ll play top teams and rivalry teams hard and full of emotion, but when it comes to teams like nashville and atlanta, the effort just isn’t there.

    Like the previous title says “File and forget” and lets hope the boys continue the trend of avoiding back to back losses tonight with a huge win over the sabres. 

  55. habstrinifan says:

    It may be a good idea for JM to separate Gill and Georges for some shifts. Put Gill with Subban and Georges with Picard on some shifts.

    It may revitalize them and I think Georges need and probably wants to add some offensive dimensions to his game instead of being just a conservative partner to Gill. Are we seeing a little malaise setting in with the HABS. The team is trending a bit towards being an inconsistent and uninspired squad. PG/JM need to keep eye on this trend and nip it. Maybe a pickup of a player like Guerin to add a spark. One of the reasons is definitely the poor offensive production by ALL of our forwards now.

    This is beginning to look too much like the habs team of last year where offense is concerned. We need more north-south 5-ON-5 rushes with defense fully involved. Right now defense only involvement in offense is ‘shots from the point’ mostly during PP.

  56. Willy the bum says:

    Is it just me, or the first thing that comes to mind when I woke up this morning is this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPG3zSgm_Qo

    Kinda funny if you think this clip goes the same for the Habs arriving here from a bad loss in Atlanta…

  57. habsfan0 says:

    Interesting to see how they bounce back after last night’s debacle. With Ryan Miller back in nets, it won’t be easy.

  58. habs365 says:

    If we had more players whom could put the puck in the net..would be a little easier..we have good goaltending also..their scoring is on par with us..if they show up tonight..should be a good one.

  59. jimmy shaker says:

    So unless we score first, we lose!  Even scoring first vs the flyers doesn’t guarantee us the win….it helps but it’s not a gimmie.  We haven’t came back in a game all year and that’s the stat that pisses me off the most.  There is no character, no desperation, no killer instinct on most nights.  Very upset with this group and the way they almost role over when they go down on the scoreboard.   Show some balls, and if they truly want to be a good team in this league, they have to find away to come back in games and not just mail it in.  For the love of GOD JM stop with the line juggling, I thought Carbo was bad, here I’ll lay it out for you nice and simple.  Use these lines and for all things good and holy, leave them alone for about 5 games, not just 1 period!  Oh and PG, get MAB NOW!

    Cammi/Pleks/A.Kosty

    Eller/Gomez/Gionta

    Darche/Halpern/Pouliot

    Moen/Pyatt/Laps

     

    Shaker

  60. HabFanSince72 says:

    You’re right. Remember the comeback from 5-0 down against the Rangers.

    Who led that one?

    Anyone remember?

    Re: this team. I think they still have difficulty abandoning the system. When you are down 2-0 it’s time to gamble a bit.

     

  61. JF says:

    We came back against Buffalo the second time we played them, erasing two 1-goal leads to go ahead and win. But otherwise you’re right.  The team is unable to fight back when they’re down.  They just collapse and go away.

    I agree with you about the lines.  The reason for breaking up the Plekanec line was to get Gionta going.  It sort of worked, but it’s time to reunite the line that was so dominant at the beginning of the season. 

  62. J_P says:

    I agree with all your points except for MAB. 

    I dont get why you want that defensive liability back so much.  Habs have to learn to be creative and how to have an effective powerplay without a one-dimensional shooter on the point.  Why JM hasn’t tried Pleks on the point on the PP is beyond me to understand.  If anyone on our current roster can quarterback the powerplay from the back end, its pleks. 

  63. CanadienBoy says:

    Till they get they power play going, we in trouble .

  64. CanadienBoy says:

    Chicago sign Exelby ,guess they missing Byfuglien toughness and now Atlanta is most improve in the grit department because of him and Ladd

  65. CanadienBoy says:

    I give up on them after they blow up the first two power play, they could not get the puck up ,Markov anyone

  66. Timo says:

    I think a round of bowling is in order here.

  67. jimmy shaker says:

    5 pin or 10 pin?

    shaker

  68. Dave Stubbs says:

    Not till Edmonton in February, Timo. Second anniversary of that coming up…

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  69. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Isn’t time for the rookie dinner soon? Good thing Huet isn’t around anymore.

  70. N.B.habs fan says:

    I was watching the game last night on RDS and noticed that they had talked about MAB,please tell me that they are not bring him back.

  71. Malreg says:

    They aren’t.  Apparently PG called MAB’s agent to tell him that they would not be offering him a contract.

  72. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    According to La Presse they are bringing him back in December when he is done rehabing.

  73. N.B.habs fan says:

    Thanks Malreg,I understand French a little.I looked on TSN to see if it was just talking about the PP.

  74. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    It was reprted on CKAC that MAB was looking for a 2 year deal, so PG said “thanks, but no thanks!” I can’t wait to see these aparent 5 other teams clamoring for his services!

  75. CDH says:

    Well that just made my day!

  76. jimmy shaker says:

    ludwig I think….

     

    Shaker


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