Morning-after musings

With his 104th goal, Tomas Plekanec tied Stéphan Lebeau and Kirk Muller for 50th on the Canadiens all-time list.

No team does ceremony better – Dave Stubbs

We have to be better, Gionta says of his line – Stubbs postgame column

TB is for real – Red Fisher

• Pat Hickey’s game story

Quotes from the room

Pierre Ladouceur’s analysis in La Presse

• JT’s game notes

And in case you missed it



  1. Storm Man says:

    He just hands out books. That is more his style.

  2. TomNickle says:

    Thirty quality shots against in a hockey game is a game you want to put out of your mind.  And when it results in a loss, it’s embarrassing.

  3. habs youngtimer says:

    he actually teaches?


  4. Halak the Franchise says:

    I would expect to see fewer shots against from most teams.  Tampa’s system calls for everybody throwing everything they can at the net at every opportunity.  That’s why the shots were so high last night.  There were maybe 30 quality shots and another 18 that really weren’t much of a threat.  Thirty shots isn’t ideal either but it’s not much outside what most teams allow on a normal night.  The defence isn’t that bad.  It’s still lucky that Price was excellent because a lot of those 30 quality shots were hard to stop.

  5. Storm Man says:

    And Martin could try and be a better coach and see his defensive discipline style of coaching is not working.

  6. Fansincebirth says:

    Unfortunately, I missed a lot of the game last night but what I saw was somewhat reminiscent of previous years. We gain the o-zone but can’t sustain any pressure, scramble in our own zone while our D looks like they are wearing cement skates, PP is a mess and of course (as a true fan), I want to blame the refs for everything.

    Yes, the refs had a hand in things last night but don’t they always and in most games all over the league? We were out hustled, out worked and out scored. Carey shone like a beacon though.


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  7. Bugs says:

    He coulda stopped the OT goal. He coulda done that.

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  8. TomNickle says:

    Like maybe a Lars Eller?


  9. TomNickle says:

    Price was excellent.  I appreciate you seeing that.

    Gomez needs to get going.  But other players do too.  Our faceoffs outside of Halpern have been dreadful.  Might be time to put Lapierre in there instead of Boyd and Cammalleri in there instead of Plekanec.  It’s early, but they struggled last season too and this can’t continue in the defensive zone and on the powerplay.

    PK, in my view, didn’t make contact with the Lightning player, maybe I need to watch it again but I’ve seen it twice and still didn’t see contact of any kind.  No penalty.

    Lapierre deserved his major.  Downie was vulnerable in that he was 4-6 feet from the boards.  You can argue that his positioning is his own fault.  But players are instructed not to violently check players in that position because it will often lead to a major penalty.  Downie wasn’t able to protect himself from the hit, cross check, whatever you want to call it, and that’s why they called it a major penalty.

    I do however have a problem with Downie dropping his gloves, throwing punches and four officials not seeing that and not making a penalty call on him.

    Cammalleri and Subban especially need to get their heads out of their butts.  Both are tremendously important to our powerplay and can’t be taking stupid penalties when we’re on the powerplay.  Lesser players would be benched for that.

  10. Clay4bc says:

    48 shots against? Our D is exactly as bad as it seems.

    Back in the day, they used to say that the best defence is a good offence. Maybe JM should start the boys playing a more agressive game up front.

    As for leaving Price alone…if he keeps playing this well, the only attention he will get is positive attention.


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  11. Storm Man says:

    Why would Martin do that? Does he not teach defensive discipline?

  12. blu3chip says:

    imho, an OT loss this early in the season doesn’t mean much. The most important thing is Price plays well and has a good start, and which will hopefully take some pressure off the poor kid.

    Our D isn’t as bad as it seems, as we have seen in our miracle playoff run. They are capable to play much more solid games.

    I hope we focus all our attention on our forwards/defencemen/coaches/GM and leave Price alone.

  13. Bugs says:


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  14. DavidKB says:

    Yeah, I’m impressed with Price, and Gomez has been a step behind most of the time so far this season.

    Last year it was pretty much a sure thing that he’d carry the puck into the opposition’s end after circling in his own end or taking a pass at speed. Now? That goal against Pittsburgh was a fluke; people would be screaming for sure if Price had let that in.

  15. Bugs says:

    What’s the issue with ME? I’m not on the ice; I’m not behind the bench. I don’t see an issue with me at all.

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  16. avatar_58 says:

    I have zero confidence that our team can win if the goalie is less than average. Imagine if Auld were in last night? Ugg….

  17. HabFanSince72 says:

    Or maybe a Guillaume Latendresse (Wild version).

  18. Bugs says:

    Agree top to bottom. Will add that Poolio played better than Gio, Eller and AK (goal and all) last night.

    If he could’ve converted that laser he sent just left of the post coming down between the circles…gaah!

    He’s gettin there, he’s gettin there.

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  19. shiram says:

    I see it as a small guy, that will be targetted by other teams, showing up and making sure that he will not be pushed and shoved down…

    Kinda being be the aggressor before you get targeted.

    Hopefully he can keep his cool and concentrate on scoring.

  20. larisalapointe says:

    Is it just me, or does Jacques Martin seem like Bruce Willis’ character in ”The sixth Sense”?

    He’s dead but doesn’t know it? How about a whole bunch of yelling and swearing at bad calls for once?

  21. habaddict_andy says:

    I would say AK 75 to 80%.  He played good last night.  Didn’t cough up the puck.  Made good move that created chances.  I think Eller should get a chance with GG.  Did anyone see the miss of Pouliot from Gomez pass to the front of the net?  You can’t miss that unless your somewhere else in the universe if you know what I mean.

    But over all we did good but could’ve done better.  Price was hot last night.  That stop on Stamkos’ break away was sick.  Let’s not give the puck to O’Byrne in our own zone anymore please, he might hurt spectators.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  22. shiram says:

    I liked the opening game last night, and while I would have loved to see a win for our Habs, it still made for some interesting hockey.

    This is still the start of a new season, and there are still bugs and synchronicity issues. Passes that we’re intercepted or just bad passes, discipline is an issue also and the number of shots allowed cannot stay that high. Wouldnt hurt either if we shot more…

    Price was outstanding, and I was very happy to see him perform so.

    It seems to me our issue is more to do with defence, as of now our goaltending has been good.

    AK seemed to be more into the game than his usual self as well, so as long as he keeps putting more and more out there on the ice, he should have a decent season.

    Pretty cool of Gio to annouce players in french.

  23. Bugs says:

    Oh, my…ouch.

    Ouch, Stormie.

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  24. Clay4bc says:

    It’s easy to sum up this game…

    Price was good.

    Gomez is a waste of money.

    7 plus million for this? What a joke.

    People bitching about the PK call…what was far worse (IMO) was the Lapierre major penalty. He deserved 2, and Tampa deserved 4. Instead, we got 5, and they got 2. Despite this…the refs didn’t win the game for the Bolts – the Habs lost it with terrible play. Except Pleks and his line – who were great.


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  25. Storm Man says:

    No your wrong again. The English madia don’t give a damn about you.

  26. Mattyleg says:

    Yeah, I noticed that too.

    I hope he cools down a bit, or the other teams are going to see that getting under his skin is a sure way to get on the PP.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. punkster says:

    My view:

    • While I like PK he played like a rookie
    • This JM tendancy to sit on a lead is frustrating
    • Pouliot missed a couple of sweet opportunities but if he keeps working he’ll capitalize
    • Gionta was a step behind all night, out of character for him
    • Gomez works his butt off but his line mates didn’t help him much
    • OB made a couple of gaffs but overall seems better
    • Cammy is in a fog but I doubt that will continue for long
    • AK looked to be at 50% which I suppose is better than the 10% we got last season
    • I feel for Pleks having a 50% AK and a foggy Cammy so far
    • Eller looks good so far
    • Price is playing well, good to see
    • Gorges is solid
    • Good work by the 3rd and 4th lines
    • Overall some good, some bad.

    Lots of bandwagoners after only 3 games. The usual Negative Nellies, Reality Rhondas, doom and gloomers
    who love to put down the team and claim they know everything all the
    time. I expect the usual suspects to be vocal whether we win or lose. Long way to go.


  28. fbkj says:

    i dont disagree about the penalties its the since gionta was named captain bit

    i think your overthinking on this part

  29. Mattyleg says:

    I believe that it’s not only physical size that we’re talking about here, but ‘presence’ size. The tallest man on Earth is of no use if he doesn’t have the agressiveness to back up his build.

    Sean Avery is what, 5’10”? He doesn’t move an inch from in front of the net, and Holmstrom was never a giant.

    “It is the bigness in here (taps chest) which counts.”

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  30. habaddict_andy says:

    The slashing during pre-season and the stupid penalty he made last night and the game before, I’m wondering what Cammalleri is thinking.  I love his skills and I defended him (not his salshing) when people were calling him stupid.  But this guys has to be careful not to make stupid penalties.  I hope I’m wrong but I’m wondering what he is thinking.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  31. jimmy shaker says:

    The one on Hedman I believe, yes, that was a bad penalty, but the one Tbay scored on for cammy’s shoulder nudge on St.louis that he totally sucked the ref into was horrible. I just wish one day a ref would have the balls to call a dive and a dive only, not off setting minors.


  32. Mattyleg says:

    Don’t think putting our #2 in is ‘throwing away points’, but I’m sure AA is happy for your vote of confidence.

    Playing a goalie two nights in a row is a bad idea any time.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. SmartDog says:

    I agree that bad penalties are unlike him.  But I’d think it more likely he’s just trying to start the season off with a bang and pushing the limits.  He’s a very competitive guy, a winner.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  34. habaddict_andy says:

    Considering where he was before last year and the fact that he did not know french before that, you need to put it in perspective.  Expecting these players to learn french considering their busy schedule is asking a lot.  I hope everyone else had that in their mind and appreciate the effort Gionta made last night.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  35. notbigbird says:

    Gomez impressed me in the playoffs, but not so far this season.

    I’ve always agreed with you about Boucher. On top of that I’m nt a JM fan. I think we accomplished what we did last year in spite of him, not because of him. But that’s just my opinion.

  36. MathMan says:

    The Habs have guys who will go to the net (come on down, Mr. Gionta) but the reason they don’t do it in practice is they simply don’t get the chance. You need to be in the offensive zone to do that and the Habs spend too much time in the defensive zone. Ryan Malone would get wasted on this club.

  37. Exit716 says:

    If the Habs are relying on either Pouliot or Kostitsyn to regularly crash the net with effectiveness, here’s a tip. Get out the tapes of last year’s playoff run and watch them over and over. Neither one is going to do it consistently, and you’re going to be very disappointed and frustrated with this season. I was impressed with Tampa’s uptempo style. Oh well, three more years of Martin and Gauthier to deal with. Eller did nothing last night of any significance.


  38. habaddict_andy says:

    I don’t know about what you guys think, since the captain was named, Cammalleri seem to have a chip on his shoulder or what.  Taking bad penalty last night was unlike him.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  39. SmartDog says:

    Good assessment. He’s a smart kid and full of energy and determination to succeed. He’ll work it out and be better and better.  O’Byrne on the other hand…..

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  40. Bugs says:

    No one is excluded from playing better, Newf.

    “Yay, you’ve hit your ceiling, kid. Now, you can stop striving to become better. All the others, yes; you, no. Cammy, Plecky, they can play better, but not you.”

    Something like that? No, sir.

    If he had gotten a shut-out, we woulda won. So he can play better too.

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  41. CanadienBoy says:

    Those two need a heart transplant .

  42. Chuck says:

    Subban will be fine. He’s full of youthful exuberance; now he’s got to learn to focus that energy in the NHL.

    In the AHL, where his raw talent made him a biggish fish in a smallish pond, he could more easily cover his mistakes with his speed. Now he’s playing against guys that are as good or better than him, so now he’s got to learn to pick his spots. Yeah, he’s got a great slapshot, but with a forward bearing down on him he’s either going to a) have the shot blocked, or b) be poke-checked, creating a turnover. In that case, an accurate, quick-release wrist shot would be preferable.

    A couple of times last night he also got himself into trouble my making ill-advised rushes and pinches… again, turning over the puck instead of making the smart play to keep the Lightning on their heels. When in doubt, make sure that you get it deep in their zone.

    It’s all about situational awareness. Right now he seems to get a case of tunnel vision, which automatically decreases his playmaking options.

    PK’s got all of the other tools, and he’s going to be great; now he’s got to learn how to most effectively apply them this at level of play.

  43. Bugs says:

    English media won’t be on his back cuz they don’t give a damn about French culture, right?

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  44. SmartDog says:

    CORRECTION: #3 should say “it WASN’T Jacques Martin’s team”.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  45. falconea says:

    First of all, Boone I love your blog and thank you for writing it.  However, I have to disagree with you on the lack of size.  Benoit Pouliot is only an inch shorter then Malone, and Kostitsyn is not a small man either.  Both of these players are more skilled then Malone and we would benefit from them crashing the net.  I believe this team has the size they just don”t use it.

  46. habsguy says:

    Ian, I agree with most of what said,  except the Leafs part,  they should be 1-2,  we should have beat them, and lastnight, although I didn’t see it, I heard the 3rd period on the radio and the leafs were not in this one!

  47. Exit716 says:

    I really think Gomez is going to be crucified this year. It isn’t going to be pretty.


  48. SmartDog says:


    1. PRICE. Go Pricey. I have not been easy on you.  But you are the ONLY reason this team had a chance last night.  Good on ya.  Forget about this one, but remember how you played. 

    2. SUBBAN. Also not your fault…. the loss was a team loss. But not your best game either.

    3. THE BOLTS. So Boucher is no big deal… the Bolts will finish in the bottom again… blah, blah, blah.  The man is a master motivator and ONE team came out with ALL GUNS FIRING.  And it was Jacques Martin’s team.   I’ve said it a hundred times, Boucher is a VERY VERY good coach, who WILL live up to the hype.

    4. CEREMONY. Re. Stubbs note on ceremony… yeah, no one does it better.  That’s what I want in a hockey team – GOOD CEREMONIES! Too bad we can’t say that about scoring. Or defense. Or power plays. Or…. 

    5. GOMEZ. I laid off Gomez toward the end of last year, and since. But watching him play and skate around and around while dishing the puck to people in awkward ways is pissing me off.  He’s too small, plays too small a game, he CAN’T win the zone without half the time giving up the puck, and he’s never going to be a #1 center in the NHL.

    Sad fate last night.  But well deserved.


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  49. Mr-T says:

    Good process summary.                                                                                                                             


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  50. Matt_in_TO says:

    Anyone have a link to the pre-game video from last night?  Not the player introductions that’s already posted, but the video played before.  I checked YouTube and there’s 2 short clips but not the whole thing.


    – In Price We Trust

  51. Bob Barker says:

    Definitely Malone. 

    Moore is basically the same player as Jeff Halpern. 

  52. SmartDog says:

    Malone or Moore.  Fack. 

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  53. Mattyleg says:

    You da man, OneTimer.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  54. Mattyleg says:

    Utter nonsense.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  55. habs03 says:

    PK stick did hit the player, the way P.K uses his stick its bound to happen once in a while. on the Malone play on Boyd I think it was a no call, no just out-muscled him to the puck, it was stick on stick. I too wish JM would show more fire, but I think its best to have a calm head coach, becuase you have a guy like Kirky that is emotional on the bench. Did you guys see Guy Boucher going a bit nuts on the bench, while that is good with young players, when the system doesn’t work and your team is stuggle that how coach seem to loss the room.

  56. Mr-T says:

    It was not Martin’s coaching expertise, that got the Habs past Washington and Pittsburgh. It is only the third game, unfortunately as long as he remains the coach, then regardless of the number of games that are played, it is par for the course. PG failed to make the necessary and obvious changes required during the hiatus. It is deja vu 2009-10.      


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  57. Aaron13 says:

    Subban will make rookie mistakes but he wants to WIN – always. He’s the only rushing defenceman we have but the rest of the team have to position themselves if he does so. PK is a quick study and will progress rapidly.

    I have no use for Gomez as indicated by his play. Poor passing, and skating into low percentage shot zones. He’ll never change his style.

    As for Martin, there are better coaches out there. Of course he was hired because he was bilingual. He had good teams in Ottawa with no significant results. This guy is non-reactive with an inability to see beyond his nose. At the least, he could have called a “time out” to try to re-organize and focus the players. He has no passion as well. This man has to go.

    Price is in much better physical condition when compared to last year and it shows. He’s very quick, mobile and focused. But for Price, this game would have been a cake-walk for TB.

    After the game, my head was spinning from the disorganized play of the Habs (except for the 1st period).


  58. Mike Boone says:

    He mispronounced Max’s name on purpose. It was an inside-the-romm joke. And Gionta’s efforts are getting very positive reviews in French media. I thought the ceremony was low-key and excellent, but what do I know?

  59. falconea says:

    Screwing up Lapierre and Boyd’s names was an inside joke.  I will agree that his french was painful at times, but at least he gave it a shot.  It will keep the french press of his back for a while.

  60. Mike Boone says:

    I think the problem is more lack of size than speed deficiency. They’re still capable of buzzing around and confusing opposing Dmen, but no one ever goes to the net. Man, this team could use a Ryan Malone.

  61. HabFanSince72 says:

    Question for you hockey fans. Are the Canadiens – relatively speaking – a fast team in today’s NHL?

    My impression is that they aren’t, and this is why they tend to get overrun.


  62. joshua94k says:

    A reality show will give fans insight into life of the team’s players. The 30-minute show will be made available from Bell on mobile, TV and online from November to December in English and French, before it is broadcast on RDS, TSN and V in January.

    I wonder if there will be a Jacques Martin episode.

    Jacques Martin’s post-game press conferences will be streamed live to Bell Mobility subscribers. Michael Farber of SI wonders how many drivers will doze off at the wheel…


  63. jimmy shaker says:

    Usually in a game a team will get a big break once and capitalize, ala Max Lapierre with a gift from the TBAY D man…..then Tbay gets a break from the St.Louis goal that bounced right to him off of PK with an empty net to put it in….so I thought okay were even.  But then TBAY gets 2 huge breaks in one.  First the shite call by the stripes on PK, then the no call on Boyd as he went to clear the puck out of the zone which lead to Vinny threading the needle to Stamkos for an easy tap in.  WIsh JM had a little bit of Torts in him, where he would just rip into the officials, show some emotion once in a while I guess.  But we’ve been in all 3 games so far, just hope the compete level keeps rising and the work ethic does too.  Poor Carey, again the victim of a 3rd period meltdown, and some crazy bounces.  Phantom call on Cammy and PK, great job NHL!  OH and MAB is close to signing back with the habs, the PP says “THank-you”.


  64. avatar_58 says:

    Eh? I don’t want to see Auld till Carey is injured or dead tired. The season just began, he stays out there. We can’t afford to just throw away points.

  65. G-Man says:

    Hate to sat this- but last night’s “ceremony” was lame. Poor Gionta had to struggle through the introductions and bungled Lapierre’s name, saying “Laperriere.” Captains of hockey teams should be introduced by PA announcers- it’s what they’re paid for.

  66. OneTimer says:

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  67. Ian Cobb says:

    Last night we were well entertained by two fine
    skating teams. In the first period both teams played with emotion and
    passion, and the Habs came out on top winning many battles for
    possession of the puck.

    When the second period came around the
    emotion from the Habs dropped off and many players started gliding
    instead of keeping their feet moving. We started to get into penalty
    trouble as laziness started to creep into our game.

    lightning were relentless, first on the puck in our end and were on the
    puck before our D could find an outlet pass, they were tenacious on the
    puck all over the ice. We were just hanging on to the lead as Price
    kept us in the game.

    Emotion in the voice and eyes of the
    lightnings coach carried over into the hearts of his players, and they
    simply out worked us. We sat on a two goal lead and forgot about making

    Our kids took poor unnecessary penalties to go along with Camallarie’s and especially Lapierre’s foolish one.

    power play is non existent this year. Even if we had of had Markov
    back, it would not have made much difference. How many times has it
    been said that they must play 60 minutes if they want to be successful.

    have a much better team this year that are capable of winning a lot of
    games, but if the emotion and intensity of their game cannot be kept up
    for 60 minutes, then you simply have to look behind the bench at a very
    passive coaching group who needs to blow a little fire out of their
    nostrils at times.

    I truly believe the difference in this game was the coaching.  We were out coached last night for sure.

    have a much better team than Toronto also, but they are playing 60 min.
    with passion and emotion and have 3 wins this year. where we have just
    1 win in 3 games.

    I know it is very early in the season, but I
    would like the media to pose the question to the coaches about
    maintaining the offensive intensity for 60 min instead of just
    protecting the lead.

    There is no way we should have lost that game, coach!! Better get them ready for the Sabers Friday night.

    . If not for Price, we would feel a lot sicker this morning. And I just
    love the passion and confidence that Boucher radiates.

  68. JohnBellyful says:

    Shades of last year: bonehead plays that lead to scoring opportunities or power plays by the other team (can someone rip ‘Fire the puck off the glass’ out of OB’s playbook and politely advise Lapierre not to shove opponents into the boards) and a wide disparity in shots. Also, in time of possession of the puck. I wonder if the league keeps stats on such a thing. If it did, it would show Montreal near or at the bottom as far as holding onto the puck and making plays with the thing. It always seems the opposition is carrying play to the Habs.

    So, it appears Toronto, Tampa and even the Islanders are legitimate threats to make the playoffs, none of which made it last year, meaning Montreal, Ottawa and Buffalo (?) could be the ones pushed out. And then there’s Atlanta and Carolina …

    Hopefully, Markov’s return will ignite the power play and be the difference in what looks to be a season of games decided by one goal.

  69. Ian Cobb says:

    Duplicate, damn Parkinson’s

  70. Willy the bum says:

    Missed the opening ceremony last night, but so glad for Youtube… thanks so much.

  71. habs03 says:

    We let that get away, Subban made some rookie mistake but its alright, O’B is not a top 6 D-man on a playoff team. Pouliot has the skill but has some serious confidence issue, anyone notice how easily Pouliot falls on the  ice, he just isn’t strong enough. A.Kost seems to be more interested this year (contract year). I know Tampa had 48 shots but I think its a bit misleading, there system seems to be just shot from anywhere, Pitts had less shots on Saturday but had more scoring chances. The Boucher system of seems to depend on having good puck moving D-men, and I don’t think they got any right now to make it work, on the first goal we scored, while the D-man made a bad pass, the forwards were already almost at the blue line, seems to be high-risk-high reward, but can you take chances like that in the playoffs? Also there powerplay seems to have a lot of movement, no one is staying in one position, but I noticed they don’t have anyone infront of the net. 

  72. habs365 says:

    about last night, if it wasn’t for carey price it would have been a disaster out shot 48 to 28 they need more conditioning or the fans in montreal is gonna see a lot of games like this one. can’t outwork the other teams or play for 60 minutes also far too many penalties (a long season looms)

  73. Mattyleg says:

    Heh heh heh.

    It’s always hilarious to come on here in the morning after a loss and see who’s being burnt in effigy.

    Sometimes it takes a whole team to lose a game. D’yez thinK?

    Subban had his high points and his low points, so did Gomez, Poupou, et al.

    Not many people were calling for Martin’s head when we were shaking Pittsburgh by the throat last year, now, were they?

    Just suck up the loss. It’s the third game of the year.

    And those who are crying, crying, crying about JM being “French” (he’s not from France, boys) tough titties. Let it go.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  74. SeriousFan09 says:

    Remember last season when some thought Subban could just step in and replace Markov and we could trade the guy? Yeah this is why I argued for patience on not bringing him up and retaining Andrei. Subban’s got crazy talent, but defencemen aren’t made in a day.

    He’s feeling the pressure of trying to be Andrei Markov, he wants to get the team’s offence going from the blue line on each shift, he’s not used to the quality of the opposition yet compared to dominating the lower levels with his skating. Markov gets back, he can tone it down and learn from one of the best about when to pick your spots. Markov always knew when to pop from the blue line to the circles to pick up the puck and blast away. I also think it was a bit of pressure about playing against his old coach.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  75. JustSomeguy says:

    Here’s something I can’t wrap my head around: Martin’s a defense-focused coach. How do the Habs end up allowing 40+ shots a game? You can argue about whether or not the shots are from outside, but the fact is that teams crash the net on the Habs. And some of those apparently weak outside shots become dangerous as they go through bodies and bounce off sticks.

    As someone else said, Martin’s entire plan seems to be coalescing into “we can win … as long as we get stellar goaltending — every night.” Honestly, the debate shouldn’t be about whether or not Price is The Franchise. Rather, it should be about whether or not Martin is setting up Price to fail with an absurdly bad system and unreasonably high expectations.

    I just don’t think Martin deep down gets that, these days, everyone under 30 who steps on the ice has been through power skating programs … and can line up a credible shot from the point.

    And, yes, Price kept Montreal in the game. That, honestly, is the only thing a team should be asking of its net-minder.

  76. RetroMikey says:

    We have a crappy D!  48 shots pelted at Price especially the home opener!

    We’ve got to get better on the D as well bigger up front.

    If not, Price is going to have a long season hearing it from the media and the boo birds.

    It’s going to be a long season of turmoil for us, the gbad and some good nights.



    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  77. says:

    I refuse to believe that TB is for real.  What I saw last night were average outside shots, that were saved and three of the most unlucky goals that Price will ever see.

    I’m sticking to my theory that TB will be good, but only because they play in the SE.

    What a waste of good goaltending.

    Put Eller up with Gio and Gomer.

    AK, my lord play like that every game.

    What?  No article on Price not coming out to receive his star.  What ever will we talk about hehe :)

    Sigh, I can’t believe the Leafs are 3&0, but they did win me some money last night. haha

    Carey, I hope you play 65 games this year.

    P.K. Subban had a blunt assessment of his performance in the
    Canadiens’ 4-3 overtime loss to the Tampa Bay Lightning last night.

    “I made mistakes tonight and they cost my team,” said the rookie defenceman. “I have to get better.”

    I don’t wanna be to hard on the guy, but he nailed it. 

    They Call Me Shane

  78. Slovak says:

    After 3 games – I see only one evident fact – this team did not improve a bit – Habs game so far depends on the goalie making or not making miracles… excelent performance is simply not enough to win the game… Let´s see what happens in another 3 games.

  79. Storm Man says:

    The only thing I see evident here is the fact you need to get out and enjoy some fresh air…. Sitting in your mother’s basement is getting to you.

  80. says:

    I read that yesterday Ian.  Imagine the Great One’s sons living in an area with no rinks.  Makes no sense.  6’5” gene pool wasted.

    They Call Me Shane

  81. Seps says:

    That football coach is an idiot, he needs to watch hockey before he comments on it.

  82. adam76 says:

    Does anyone have a link to the opening ceremony? 

  83. says:

    Oh I agree.  Pretty much in every loss last season he was one of three stars. That Nashville game really sticks out.  Then again, I’m a big fan of Carey.  The guy has a great story on his road to the NHL.  There’s only one way to finish it!


    They Call Me Shane

  84. petefleet says:

    Here’s a ‘quote from my room’ or ‘a morning musing’….Subban aint ready for prime time.  He cost the time 3 goals against last night.  Right now his down side is far more prominent than his upside.  Carey was awsome and that’s two great games in a row.

    ”’Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie”’

  85. Slovak says:

    So far it seems that Martin is waiting for something like last playoff miracles on the goalie position again…

  86. Mr-T says:

    Martin has to go! Did you just come to that conclusion. That was quite apparent for 101 games last year and counting.                                                                                                                                                    


    Support Carey Price       “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”

  87. Bugs says:

    Huh? Why didn’t they keep Carbo then? He was French. Ohh, they wanted different French?

    And that stupid, stupid, no good coach could only get us farther then we’d been in 17 years. Boy, that was a stupid, stupid hire, eh?

    So after three games of the new season, we’ve learned that if you hire a French guy that’s in the top10 for most victories in the history of the NHL and who takes your team farther than you’ve been in 17 years, that’s stupid.

    Totally agree with you…Newfie.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  88. Storm Man says:

    Your bang on with that post.

  89. SeriousFan09 says:

    Talent doesn’t always pass on directly as well, only father-son relation where you can say the son lived up to the family legacy is Bobby Hull/Brett Hull.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  90. pmaraw says:

    and hopefully the tinordi’s 😉

  91. says:

    Don’t forget the Stastny’s, Howe’s, and Sutters. But yes I see your point.  I bet if they grew up in Brantford playing hockey like Wayne did, there would be a little talent rubbing off. Yes? 


    They Call Me Shane

  92. SeriousFan09 says:

    Doesn’t always, where are the kids of the Rocket, Beliveau and so on? Sometimes it’s a generational thing and I think Gretzky’s kids are going to enjoy playing sports where they don’t spend every day compared to a living legend.

    J.P. Parise – Zach Parise as well is probably your best modern-day transition, but it’s still a handful, Ray Bourque’s kids aren’t setting anything on fire, one had to go to the KHL for a job and the other’s a maybe as a prospect for the NYR right now. Get your kids to play the game, but stars don’t always produce the same.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  93. says:

    and like I said, becasue they live in Cali we’ll never know. 

    But it does run in the blood.

    You should see our mighty family!  :)

    They Call Me Shane

  94. TomNickle says:

    I had an epiphany this morning about the makeup of the lines on this team.  I’m certainly in no better place to judge how the lines should be put together but it’s clear that we need a player on each line that can sustain pressure in the offensive zone.  Too many teams are just taking the puck off of Cammalleri and Gomez and walking out of their own end.

    And if Hal Gill pinches one more time at the offensive zone blue line or centre ice I’m gonna have a heart attack.

    Anyway, here it goes.

    I would love to see Lapierre moved up with Plekanec and Cammalleri.  Gomez and Gionta take Andrei Kostitsyn.

    Eller, Halpern and Pouliot and Boyd with Moen and Pyatt.

    We need some scoring punch on our third line and and we need players to be able to sustain time in the offensive zone.  

  95. TomNickle says:

    Oh, and hats off to Andrei Kostitsyn who might actually be a really good hockey player if he keeps this up.  More important than the streaky scoring is that he’s making the right decisions and has for the last two games.

    It’s not much, but if he keeps it up(proper play with and without the puck and physical everywhere), he’s going to be a really good one.  I’m sick of him teasing me.  Just keep doing what you’re doing Andrei.

  96. Storm Man says:

    Hmmmmmm I hope you don’t have him on your HIO league team. I see today CP31 has the upper hand on you with a few days left. 😉

  97. TomNickle says:

    Anything to take your mind off the Chargers eh Tim.


  98. Storm Man says:

    I was thinking we are talking about hockey :). Like I have said I have no say with how my Chargers are run Im not worried they will win the AFC WEST. I think I will look at my Global Killers team now and see what moves I need to make :)

  99. TomNickle says:

    I think the Chargers are in more trouble than you seem to think they are.

    A 9-7 record isn’t going to be good enough this season Tim.


  100. Storm Man says:

    3-3 after this weekend. I see it going like this 8-2 in the next 10 games and end up 11-5 that wins the west :). Now that McNeill is back and Jackson coming around the bend.

  101. TomNickle says:

    I don’t see Jackson busting his butt for that team when he gets back Tim.  Just my opinion.

    No contract next season, he’s not going to give everything and risk serious injury.

  102. observer says:

    chargers fan? do you think tomlinson’s legs seem to be moving faster with the jets then his fall down in a heap on first contact or stand on the sidelines and watch the last couple of years in san diego? seems to show a lot more effort now for some reason?that playoff game chargers  fans at home booed him  in the nyj at san diego game – tomlinson gained 25 yards total on 15 touches running and receiving.

  103. Storm Man says:

    He can do one of two things sit on his butt or play for a big payday….. What would you do?. It does not hurt the Chargers with what he does Rivers has passed for over a 1000 yards without him. The thing that has hurt the team is ST and that has been delt with all this week.

  104. observer says:

    i like minnesota to put dallas at 1-4 on sunday. no home team super bowl again this year. good link for favre records link for passes caught by the other team also on this link —-

  105. TomNickle says:

    He’ll get a big contract anyway and he knows it.  That’s why he didn’t come back on a one year tender deal and risk injury.

    Their special teams are 100% killing them.  But they can’t stop the run either.

  106. Storm Man says:

    Well number 1 Tomlinson is going to be in the hall of fame, What he is doing at this point for the Jets is great but can he keep it up all season? It is not hurting the Chargers not having him. Special teams is nothing else.

  107. TomNickle says:

    I think you’ve got that prediction wrong Tony.

    Dallas at home, playing for Wade Phillips’ job.  One huge difference between the Vikings and Cowboys is that the Cowboys like their coach, the Vikings do not.  How many Vikings players want Leslie Frazier to be their coach compared to how many in Dallas want Jason Garrett.

    Dallas can defend the pass and run very well at times.

    Minnesota can’t seem to defend anything and can’t stop turning the ball over.

    The Vikings are in huge trouble while Dallas can still come back and catch up in a killer division where teams beat each other up.

    Eagles made the playoffs with a 9-6-1 record in that division.

    Packers got in with a wild card on an 11-5 record.

    Vikings are screwed this weekend and Childress will be lucky to make it the whole season.  If, or I should say when the Vikings lose this week, Childress will probably be history in Minnesota.

  108. Storm Man says:

    Giving up 3.8 yards a carry is not bad at all.

  109. TomNickle says:

    Considering the quality of opposition they’ve played so far it is Tim.

  110. TomNickle says:

    Which team that they’ve played has a decent offensive line?

  111. SeriousFan09 says:

    Don’t try and hide the fear buddy by going after others Storm, my team caught up with yours last night! Getzlaf finally playing like he gives a **** brings it home.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  112. observer says:

    yes he’ll be in the hall of fame but for previous years- i am talking the last couple of seasons and the effort he did not display for some reason. he never played in any charger preseason games last few years and was sound. but with jets he played and hard in each one from the first preseason game. he was booed for good reason in that playoff game and hyis play this year confirms what is obvious.

  113. Storm Man says:

    I hope you feel the same way after Im up on your team by say 25 points after tonight :).

  114. Storm Man says:

    Number 2 in overall Defense. Number 3 vs the pass and number 7 vs the rush. Special teams has done them in at this point but it is going to change in a big way now. I like the tweaking the coaching staff has done now. This after playing KC number 3 in rushing Jacksonville number 4 and Raiders number 7.

  115. SeriousFan09 says:

    Psssh!!! I predict the unprecedented double-loss that means both PHI and TBL lose the game so no points for you! I’ll get you tommorow with my lineup being loaded.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  116. observer says:

    ” you’ve got that prediction wrong Tony. Dallas at home, playing for Wade Phillips’ job.” wrong?????? firstly the game is in minnesota. minnesota’s defense is outstanding and they outplayed the jets the last half of that game. moss now has a game with favre under his belt. back in the dome against the team they slaughtered in last years playoffs. minnesota will be just one more monday night loser rebounding with a win the following week. i even bet them at 1-3 two days ago to still win their division. and they are 2.5 games behind chicago right now.

  117. TomNickle says:

    My apologies….thought the game was in Dallas.  It really doesn’t matter in this situation though.

    Like I said.  Childress has lost his locker room.  Phillips has the respect and adoration of his players.

    Minnesota hasn’t been generating anything near the pass rush that they did last year and can’t stop the run nearly as well.  In addition their secondary is in even worse shape than it was last year.

    This is a recipe for disaster for the Vikings.

    PS….you don’t have to quote me to reply to me Tony, I’m not that slow.


  118. TomNickle says:

    Against the Chiefs, Jags, Seahawks, Raiders and Cardinals.

    Smoke in mirrors Tim.

  119. Storm Man says:

    If you say so :).

  120. Storm Man says:

    He was hurt BTW.. Look up your history.

  121. observer says:

    i repeat minnesota defense has been outsnding jets offense scored 1 td on them. gave up but 39 points the other 3 games combined. rice was missing all year – the only big receiver. now they have moss with a full weeks practice and their backs also to the wall but they are a superior team to dallas – one of the most overrated and overhyped nfl teams. giants in a year filled with injuries even beat them twice last year. romo is romo. watch how minnesota run game improves now that moss can stretch the foield. peterson still is the best rb in the league and favre is heads above romo. minnesota is cinch winner this week!

  122. SeriousFan09 says:

    Laugh now, tonight Dan Cleary’s scoring 11 points and breaking the NHL record.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  123. observer says:

    ?????????? if it doesnt matter that dallas is at home then why did you yourself use that as your first reason that i am wrong? if it doesnt matter?

  124. TomNickle says:

    Ladanian Tomlinson and Shonn Greene ran rough shod all over them and did so in terrible field conditions.

    They are generating no pressure on the quarterback with their front four, which they need to do because they’re a cover 2 base defense.

    We’ll see how the Vikings fair without a thunderstorm making the filed into a swamp.

    30-13 Dallas.

  125. TomNickle says:

    It would be relevant because the Vikings are terrible on the road.  But I don’t think it will matter this weekend.

    Like I said, one team likes their coach, the other team doesn’t.  That makes a huge difference.

  126. observer says:

    we saw brave real hockey players just recently in last years playoffs throwing their bodies and faces in front of shooters from the point taking slap shots directed at the goal, just why did hamerlck on a lob-ball flip from clark at the goal gutlessly move the last second out of the way causing the first tampa bay goalas price was completely screened like 100%? this play was shown clearly between periods on sun sports telecast last night. was it shown head-on on rds?

  127. SLONCOLD says:

    because blocking shots means potential injuries. also blocking shots is a double edged sword. for every time you block one, you also risk the chance of screening your goalie, deflecting the shot or both.

  128. Bugs says:

    In other news, you’ll all be delighted to know that Team France has won its last three Euro qualifiers and now sits atop its division.

    Gourcuff and Mexes are becoming bosom buddies. Benzema is assuming his num10 status with increasing brio (not to mention devastating strikes), and new stunning talents like Rémy and Payet are beginning to blossom.

    All’n’all, very exciting. Yaaay! Yay for Les Bleus!

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  129. observer says:

    speaking of three  – burke’s team has won all three in regulation time.

  130. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Yeah, that’s great bugs! Any handballs? Or are they waiting to play Ireland again before they cheat!

  131. Storm Man says:

    Group D is very weak….. It well be very exciting to see Les Bleus choke in the next round.

  132. habs001 says:

    tampa d is not supposed to be very good yet we did not really dominate them…if we were playing the flyers yest would we have even scored any goals…

  133. TomNickle says:

    When we had the puck in their end we absolutely dominated their defense.  We just didn’t have the puck in their end enough.

  134. homerbowen says:

    Overall our team is too small and our few big forwards play small. Gomez is a sad excuse for a highly paid pro. Our defense is “so so” and, thank goodness our goaltending is good.

    The Laffs are 3 and 0 and deserve to be there while our Habs are not looking good out of the gates.

    A very disappointing start to the season. Can we send Gomez to the dogs?

  135. LA Loyalist says:

    Prepare yourself to get flamed for criticizing the Smurf(tm). Too bad the games are not won on the perimeter.




  136. CanadienBoy says:

    Gomez always been a slow starter but the system allow to many goal !

  137. Mattyleg says:

    The Laffs will fade. Too many mediocre forwards playing past their potential, and too many slow defensemen who will be exploited in the coming season.

    Laff Nation better enjoy it while it’s happening.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  138. marlboro says:

    Price was excellent! He’s been outstanding in all three games I’ve watched, but last night, was really just an amazing performance.  I wasn’t his biggest fan, but he’s changing my mind fast.  I know its early in the season, but Atta Boy Carey!! keep it up! You’re gonna be fine!

    Missed the opening ceremony, glad you guys posted it.  Center Ice package had the Tampa feed, and they were showing taped interviews durng it.  Nobody does it better then us for sure…Was wondering if any of the reporters had a chance to ask some of the newer guys what they’re thoughts are vis-vis fans reaction/applause while their names were being called out? Great job Gionta, it can’t be easy for you…And good job fans, for letting Price know what we really think…

  139. Bugs says:

    If by “cheat” you mean having a dim-witted ref not call the foul, then that depends on the situation.

    But crying that Ireland got cheated is ridiculous cuz there’s no way they woulda won the shootout with Lloris in net and in fine form HAD the foul been called. Keane woulda put it in and then…no one else. Please. Enough with the crying. The end of that game was unfortunate, yes, but the outcome was never in doubt.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  140. VintageFan says:

    “Cheat” means playing outside the rules.  It is still ‘cheating’ even if you don’t get caught. 

  141. Bugs says:

    Aww, that’s cute.

    But in reality? Henri wasn’t “playing outside the rules”; he controlled the ball with his hand in the heat of the moment. As it has happened to EVERY singly player at one point in their lives. Every one. You’re losing control, it’s near your hand, you’re in a prime position and don’t want to lose it and you react badly.

    Same as defenseman in the NHL who see the puck squirt by them on the boards and an attacker picking up speed to pass them and they push them into the boards for an interference that DOESN’T get called. It happens. Doesn’t make the d-man a “cheater”. It’s the heat of the moment.

    Cheating is throwing a game. Cheating is using steroids. Cheating is buying the refs. That’s cheating.

    Henri handballed in the heat of the moment and didn’t get called; that’s all it is.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  142. VintageFan says:

    That’s why language consists of multiple words.

    Cheat means playing outside the rules

    a) Cheating when you don’t mean to is still cheating.  b) Cheating when you don’t get caught is still cheating.

    Perhaps there is another word that could be usedfor a) or b).  Or in the absence of such a word, you could just create one.

    Cheating by any other name is cheating.

    It is what it is

  143. HFX-HabFan says:

    I’m pretty sure it’s Henry, not Henri.

  144. Bugs says:

    You’re absolutely correct, Effie. Force of French habit.


    Henry, it is indeed.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  145. Bugs says:

    Well, if “it is what it is”, then France won and Ireland lost.

    It is what it is.

    If Ireland had been a better team, it wouldn’t have been that GO AHEAD goal in aggregate that spelled their doom.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  146. VintageFan says:

    Won’t try to fight facts. 

    France certainly won.

    And Cheating is Cheating.

  147. Bugs says:

    And crying about it makes it all better.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  148. TomNickle says:

    Gionta and Cammalleri don’t play on the perimeter.

    They’re our two smallest forwards.


  149. LA Loyalist says:

    That’s where Gomez plays.

    He couldn’t find the net with a map.

    Gionta and Cammy are great, I have no problem with them, I think Gionta is a good choice as captain.

    I have no problem with any small player if they do their job. Henri Richard, Mats Naslund, off the top of my head were small and they were great.

    17 games to a new tagline.

  150. RGM says:

    Except for the goal that he scored in the last game, eh?

    Go Habs Go!

  151. TomNickle says:

    Yeah that’s my point though.  The size of our team is irrelevant.  Gomez needs to stop limiting himself to the perimeter, that’s all.

    This perimeter stuff is crap.  Gionta, Cammalleri, Pouliot, Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Eller, Lapierre, Boyd, Halpern.  They’re all making plays through the middle of the ice and going to the net.

    We just need to be better at sustaining time in the offensive zone.  That’s it.

  152. LA Loyalist says:

    That goal was a pure fluff by the goalie (not that I’m not grateful for it) it’s always good to throw it on the net.

  153. sidhu says:

    Just noticed that Moen was the only Hab who played less than 10 minutes last night.

    Wonder if he’s on the outs with JM.

  154. observer says:

    he already was screening price. he moved out of the way of the puck at the very last second before the lobbed puck would hit him and price saw nothing. yes he protected only himself. that is why i called it a gutless play a player i would not ev4en want on my team. did you see the headon view from the blueline? it was disgusting.

  155. HabsTrueBlue says:

    It’s probably more of a natural instinctive reaction than a gutless play.

  156. observer says:

    yes ian laperriere instinct was block that slapshot with his own face while hamrlck instinct was to protect his face from the lobbed puck.

  157. LA Loyalist says:

    Question for the room:

    Would you bump Martin to somewhere where he can do less harm and put in Kirk Muller as coach? (Or? Boucher is not an option).

    Or is the team so ill-constructed (small or playing small, soft, peripheral – leaving our few stars at risk) that the coaching is irrelevant?

    Have fun! 

    17 games to a new tagline





  158. TomNickle says:

    It’s just as much the players letting up as it is Martin’s system.  They need to focus on controlling play when they get a lead.  The same system that built the lead let it slip away because we don’t have a powerplay goal.

    Everyone in the organization needs to focus on controlling play like I said.  They’re letting the opposition bring play to them once they have a lead.

  159. SeriousFan09 says:

    Muller is not some saint who can turn it all around, he’s a solid player’s coach and good with the special teams but he’s not THAT good. Let’s face it, our PP stinks, that’s part of his job and he knew all summer we wouldn’t have Markov to start the year and had time to craft a strategy.

    I like Muller, but let’s not pretend his taking over the bench would be more than another stopgap solution.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  160. HFX-HabFan says:

    Three games in, and some people are ready to call for the coach’s head?  Really?

  161. marlboro says:

    Yeah, I don’t know.  A lot of poster are yelling for his head here.  Look, I’m not his biggest fan, and honestly, I couldn’t show zero emotion like he does.  But the guy has coached in this league a long time.  Top 10 or even maybe 9 in games ever! who are we? I think Guy Boucher might have been the young French speaking coach we were looking for, and in a few years he might turn into one of the best. But after 2 NHL games, its hard to argue he’s better, or his systems works.  A lot of systems work with a kid like Stamkos. 

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Muller though, he looks like he has what it takes. 

  162. Storm Man says:

    Coching is the problem at this point.

  163. Timo says:

    I would bump Martin in a heartbeat where the sun don’t shine. As far as Muller being a head coach… I am not sure about that one. While it could have an immediate positive impact for 2-3 games I for some reason don’t think he’d be the right choice for the head coaching job. But LL, you know that Martin won’t go unless PG goes… it’s a pretty tight group running the show and they all scratch each other’s backs.

  164. A. Berke says:

    Dumping Martin is definitely a “no brainer” as far as I’m concerned.

    (But what do I know? Besides Timo explained it better just below).

    Ali B.

  165. matraque says:

    Gionta, what a classy guy!!  What he did last night was perfect.  Presenting the players in french and english was amazing.  I was at the game and everyone was pleased and CHEERED so hard when he they heard Gionta speaking french.  That’s respect to your market.

    He must have been so nervous… Congratulation Brian, that is all we are asking from you.  Just because of that, you made a tremendous impact on the fans.


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  166. HFX-HabFan says:

    He’ll nail down the Quebecois accent soon enough.

    In the meantime, he owes Laps and Boyd each a dinner for butchering their names.

  167. marlboro says:

    Totally agree! Excellent job! I live in the U.S now, but still meant a lot me personally to see him do that. 

  168. HFX-HabFan says:

    Some thoughts from last night’s game:

    -Our first line played like a first line last night, all three of them, even ANDREI KOSTITSTYN. Pleks was flying, Cammy was good when he wasn’t taking dumb penalties, and AK46’s head was out of the clouds and down to rink level.

    -The second line has to get going.

    -I love our bottom six.  Our third and fourth lines can contribute offensively.  Travis Moen has really been skating these first few games, and Boyd will prove to be a great move by Gauthier.

    -Price played great.  Some huge saves on both Stamkos and Vinny.

    -Hammer looked okay in his first game back.

    -We played a great first 20 but it seemed the penalties and 4 on 4 stuff through off our momentum in the second, and Tampa caught up.  The Subban call was iffy but that Malone trip of Boyd should have been called. 

    -Ryan Malone was a thorn in our side last night but we’d love to have a big winger like that on our team (obviously not with his contract, but still).

  169. Habsrule1 says:

    Very dissapointing but good game.

    It was run & gun for a while for both teams, but they have a better gun.

    Price was amazing the last 2 games. I predict everyone forgets Halak by Christmas.

    I’m surprised everyone is being so hard on Gomez. He is out there holding onto the puck and skating like the wind. If anything, I think his linemates are letting him down BIG TIME. Give everyone a chance to get back into it, and Gomez will be racking up the assists.

    If Markov is back Saturday as is rumoured, I predict the Habs mess those sens up….bad.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  170. Corporate says:

    What I am worried about isn’t Carey Price or Andrei Kostitsyn.We kow what to expect from Andrei.. He scores in batches and he can score 20 goals in 10 games and then do nothing the rest of the year. As for Carey I am happy to see him do well. I like his confidence this year. 

    What really worries me is the play of Gionta. Something seems off. Yeah you can blame Gomez but he is not alone. He seems to still be in training mode. What do you guys think?

  171. Habsrule1 says:

    Good point. I’m not worried yet but he does need to turn it around. He may be preoccupied with all the attention coming along with being Captain. I think he’ll turn it around fast, and when he does, Gomez’s worth will shine through. It seems he is flying out there but never has anyone to pass to. Granted, I wish he’d cut inside and shoot more, but his linemates need to help him too.

    By the way, anyone else notice AK46’s forechecking? I was shocked a couple times at the speed he came in on the defensemen!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  172. HFX-HabFan says:

    AK was definitely skating last night.  I wish he’d play like that every game.

  173. HabsMitch says:

    Am I missing something about Boucher…what did he do to garner so much praise exactly? I’m sure he’s a good coach but man

  174. TommyB says:

    It’s not unusual for any team to have a line that is not firing on all cylinders. I won’t worry about Gionta or Gomez, cripes, it’s 3 games into the season. They’ll get it going soon. What I am liking, is it looks like Gomez is shooting more. I think that will translate into more success for both him, and that line. Our second line looks solid, and continues to give the opposition fits. Plekanecs is incredible. A great combination of soft hands, and hard-nosed grit. He’s always in there battling.

    I like the makeup of our bottom six forwards.  They seem to also be causing some concern for the opposition when they  are on the ice.  Plenty of energy.  I am really liking the addition of Halpern, Boyd and Eller.  They seem to fit in nicely with Moen, Lapierre, and Darche.

    It’s 3 games in…Habs could just as easily be 3-0, if it weren’t for some unlucky bounces, and some questionable coverage in the defensive zone.  So instead of harping on guys like Gomez, or wondering what’s wrong with Gionta, maybe take a look at where we are having difficulties.  And untimely (dumb) penalties are front and centre as a problem, IMO.  It looks like Subban’s penchant for undiscipline in the pre-season is carrying over into the real games.  I’ll cut the kid some slack, but this can’t continue.  And you know if it were someone else (read O’Byrne), his butt would be nailed to the end of the bench.  I know he has much offensive flair.  That’s great.  We can certainly use that.  But to me he seems to be running all over the place trying to do it all.  Slow down just a touch, PK.  And remember you have a partner out there for a reason.

  175. Bugs says:

    Well, so far in the NHL, he’s batting for 1.000.

    Steve YZERMAN vouches for him and his players have subscribed to his game-plan.

    Considering the game-plan takes into account that his blue-line is thin and relies on relentless to attack to relieve pressure on it, I dare say that, so far, he deserves that praise.


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  176. ZepFan2 says:

    Ron Wilson is batting the same avg. as Lord Boucher. Should we be worried?


    “Wonder how tomorrow could ever follow today.”

  177. Bugs says:

    Don’t wanna alarm anybody but uhh…the leafers are in 1st place. 1st place. The leafers.

    Maybe take a moment to let that sink in?

    What next, locusts?

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  178. Bugs says:

    Worried that smarmy leafers will soon be invading this site, yes, definitely.

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  179. LA Loyalist says:

    I think the point is that Boucher is adapting to the horses he has, whereas coaches like Martin try to adapt the players to their system and get “buy-in”.

    We’ll see which is wiser in today’s NLH.



    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  180. HabsFanNorway says:

    Thanx for posting the players intro! :)

    Everyone from Sweden, Finland (swedish speaking), Norway, Denmark: Join the Facebook group “Montreal Canadiens Fan Club Scandinavia”!

  181. Fansincebirth says:

    Would it be too much to have the regular guys play more together during the pre-season? I know that the juniors have to be evaluated but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of flow to our game….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  182. ZepFan2 says:

    Too late on that one I’m afraid.


    “Wonder how tomorrow could ever follow today.”

  183. DavidKB says:

    Yes on AK46, earned his money last night.

  184. HFX-HabFan says:

    Ah, well done, Tony!  The Toronto Maple Leafs and France:  neither have been relevant to anything in recent history.

  185. Bugs says:

    By “recent”, I assume you mean the last 4 years since France was in the Finals.

    Soooo “recently”, 26 out’ve 30 NHL teams have been “irrelevant”. Including us.


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  186. observer says:

    until now – as bob dylan said “the times they are a changin’ “

  187. HFX-HabFan says:


    I was thinking in the last 40-50 years really.  With France, I was looking beyond soccer.

  188. Bugs says:



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  189. Dave Stubbs says:

    Justin Boyd and Max Laperrière were done on purpose, by the way… Gionta wanted to rib the two guys.

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  190. HFX-HabFan says:

    Then that’s awesome.

  191. TomNickle says:

    Thought so.  Captain did an admirable job but I thought he was going to faint when he had to say Markov’s number.

  192. fbkj says:

    LOL i was like this when he got to markov

  193. wd40 says:

    Really?  if so, very funny! :)

  194. Storm Man says:

    Not his head maybe just a finger.

  195. MathMan says:

    It’s not the three games this year, it’s also the entirety of last year when his “system” was equally ineffective.

  196. LA Loyalist says:

    I don’t have an opinion yet — I’m asking you guys.


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