Montreal fans get first up-close look at new Hab Parros

Some lucky Canadiens fans got an up-close look at new enforcer George Parros a lunch time Tuesday when the 6-foot-5, 228-pound giant skated for about 30 minutes on the indoor rink at the 1000 de La Gauchetiere building in downtown Montreal, near the Bell Centre.

Parros also toured the Canadiens’ Bell Centre dressing room, put on his new No. 15 Habs jersey and did a photo shoot for the Canadiens Magazine.

In other Habs news, has included Lars Eller on its list of seven players who will be trying to avoid the ‘one-hit wonder’ tag next season.

Writes columnist John Kreiser: “Eller’s third season with the Canadiens unquestionably was his best – he had a career-high 30 points in 46 games, up from 28 points in 79 games a season earlier. Eller faces an additional challenge while trying to prove that he can build on those numbers – he’s coming back from a concussion and a broken nose sustained in Game 1 of the Canadiens’ Stanley Cup Playoff series against the Ottawa Senators.”

The other players on the list are Bryan Bickell of the Chicago Blackhawks, Sergei Bobrovsky of the Columbus Blue Jackets, Viktor Fasth of the Anaheim Ducks, Thomas Hickey of the New York Islanders, Nazem Kadri of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Jiri Tlusty of the Carolina Hurricanes.

(File photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

George Parros’s day in photos,

George Parros’s day in videos,

Seven players trying to avoid ‘one-hit wonder’ tag,



  1. hab fan in leaf jungle says:

    He is a huge improvement over that fraud Laraque…way more character and he is an Ivy League graduate. I doubt Laraque could even spell Ivy League.

  2. HammerHab says:

    Another thing about Parros….some complainers saying he cant play. What about the guy he fights? If he tunes a guy like Lucic AND keeps him off the ice for 5 minutes thats all good in my books….I’ll take that trade-off any day.


    It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  3. ClutchNGrab says:

    Yes, new thread…

  4. Psycho29 says:

    New Thread!

    And it’s a doozy!!!

  5. bwoar says:

    If Price flops, then can I finally blame Timmins for drafting him? Or will there be another undeserved round of apologies for TT because Price was mis-managed too?

    The guy is HORRIBLE in the 1st round, period. But no one will admit it.


    • doc359 says:

      Whose better?
      Give some facts or not many people are going to listen to you.

      Timmons has drafted us some great players. We are listed as one of the best teams in terms of prospects by most any group that does that analysis.

    • Kfourn says:

      – Pacioretty
      – McDonough
      – Tinordi (probable NHL player)
      – Beaulieu (probable NHL player)
      – Galchenyuk

      I think he’s done pretty well considering most of the players here were later 1st round 1st picks.

      Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

      “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

      • Cardiac says:

        You forgot Norris trophy winner PK Subban as well.

        “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
        – Jerry Maguire

        • Kfourn says:

          I was limiting it to the first round, but if we want to go to later rounds it just solidifies him as an excellent scout.

          Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

          “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

    • krob1000 says:

      2003-Ak 10th (has scored 26th most points from draft)
      2004- Chipchura (injury ruined)
      2006- Fischer(Total bust)
      2007-Mcdonaugh and Paciroretty (both great picks) then he gets a norris winner in the 2nd
      2008-No first round pick
      2009- Leblanc book still out but not looking good (injuury again a factor)
      2010-Tinordi (looks like great pick at 22)
      2011-Beaulieu (17 first round picks in same class have played less)
      2012-Galch–possibly best pick of draft

      Given the draft positions the only ones that were bad were Fischer and injury plagued guys Chips and LEblanc (and there is still time for Leblanc).
      Ak could have been better…or worse. He was a risk reward thing and guys get upset at who was picked after but he still has late ifrst round numbers even in that year which ended up a pheniomenal class with 26th most points.

      I thinkif you look at any team drafting where he has you will find similar stories…if he were bombing top 3 [picks that would be onte thing but he is often stuck picking around 15-25 and has done as ell as could be expected adn the latter halfs of his drafts are probably the best in the game.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Yeah? Who would rather have as head scout? There are 30 teams in the NHL. I bet you can’t name more than 5 teams that have better head scouts.

      And not only the 1st round counts BTW. What do you think the next 6 rounds are there for?

    • SuperHabFan says:

      If you think it was only Timmins’ decision to draft Carey at #5 you’re an idiot. And I bet you think it was only Timmins’ decision to draft Galchenyuk…

  6. Ian Cobb says:


    I have secured our Summit game tickets today, that everyone has paid for. We are all seated together.

    Final count attending the Summit this Oct 26th, is 151 HIO members.

    We are the largest group attending a game at the Bell Center by far, each year, I was told.

    I will be going to Montreal on the Thursday Oct.24th, to set up all of our events, and will be going to the Ducks (Koivu) game that night as well. Stay tuned for more news, Summitteers.

    Montreal might never be the same.!

    “Now you can start working on a raffle gift, to bring to the Montreal Canadiens Children’ Foundation Raffle.” 3pm Baton Rouge pre-game dinner. I am working on some very special guests.

  7. frontenac1 says:

    @habfan72.I hate Youppi too! Evil orange bas###. I want Parros to beat the piss out of him.

  8. frontenac1 says:

    I hate Youppi too! Evil orange bas###.

  9. krob1000 says:

    Smart dog …re your response…who did drop the torch? I would like to know that answer or what the perceoption is…I could argue it goes back through several “leaderships”…Lafleur was bascially run out, Robinson traded, the Roy debacle, Serge Savard and Lemaire both had issues, Gainey was not able to get things together although I can see he actually tried…retitring numbers and trying to get everyone back together but there are decades of ill will amongst former Canadiens greats it seems….the very heart of the franchise is strained as every great player of recent years seems to be on a diff’t page. The trend continued with Carbonneau,Muller, Koivu,etc,etc.
    Detroit maintained its class the whole time…now maybe there was more internal rift than I know as I don’t follow them like the HAbs but they sure seem the big happy family year after year and have for as long as I can remember now.

    Winning is a culture….look at the 1986 team…how many went on to win more cups?
    Carbo, Chelios, Richer, C lemiuex, Skrudland, Roy, Corson (did not get one)etc////these were all young players at the time..who later developed into leaders themselves…those guys learned from Gainey, robinson, Bobby Smith, NAslund, Tremblay, Walter….the winning tradition was preceeded by the glory days of the late 70;s and so on and so on.

    • SmartDog says:

      Winning is a culture. That’s exactly it. But it’s not a culture of one thing, it’s a culture of leadership, decision-making, effort, courage – and smarts.

      I would say Savard-Houle-Tremblay dropped the torch. Savard for as much good as he did until that point in his tenure made a HUGE mistake and together they all drove the team to hell in a handbasket with their feet on the gas.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  10. Bill says:

    It’s a fact that Timmins’s picks have produced more NHL players than any other team’s scouting department. It’s actually foolish to knock his drafting record.

    • doc359 says:

      Totally agree with you, but anyone know a good website that shows how many draft picks actually turn into nhlers? Be cool to see who is among the best and worst. I suppose Hockeydb is the closest we have?

    • Timo says:

      How many of them are good players though? Sheesh… with 30 (soon to be 32) NHL teams it will only get easier and easier to be an NHLer.

    • bwoar says:

      It’s a fact that the Habs haven’t won anything during his tenure. Nor did the Sens.

      EDIT: The_Truth says it best: “Not a lot of top end talent”.

      That’s all. Frankly I don’t get the “it’s foolish to knock Timmins” crowd based on the number of NHL players he’s found. It’s a stupid measuring stick.


  11. SmartDog says:

    Gomez signs in Florida. Makes sense.

    Gomez – looking for another year on the beach.
    Florida – looking to tank and build for later.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Florida have managed to replace George Parros with the only player who is worse than him.

      • SmartDog says:

        At least they replaced his goals… er… goal.

        Maybe they think Gomez will bring out Latino fans. Can’t think of any other reason.
        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Can you believe Gomez got a job before Grabovski? I don’t like Grabovski but he his certainly more useful than Gomez

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

  12. krob1000 says:

    Timmins history
    2003- Kostistyn 10th, Lapierre 61st, OB 79th, Halak 271 st

    2004- Chipchura 18th (injury ruined him), 84th Emelin, 150th Grabovski, 262 Streit

    2005- 5th Price, 45th Latendresse, 190 Dagostini, 200 S Kostitsyn

    2006-This was a total bust draft by his standards
    Fischer 20th , Maxwell 49, Carle 53, WHITE 66th, Valentenko 139th

    2007-Homeruns all around
    12th Mcdonagh, 22nd Pacioretty, 43 Subban, 73 Weber

    2008- No first round pick first pick is Kristo @ 56th Noone else loosk like an NHler at this point

    2009-Another not so great draft, early still for the project picks but still time if Leblanc turns things around
    Leblanc 18th, Nattinen at 65th is teams next pick NO 2ncd rounder , Avtsin and Dumont at 109 and 139

    2010- Looks pretty good so far Tinordi 22nd, NO 2nd or 3rd round picks…lands Macmillan @at 133th, Morgan Ellis at 117th, Gallagher is a steal at 147

    2011- 2013 too early to tell but he may have got the best player in the 2012 draft in Galchenyuk ……late round guys like Nygren 113 , dietz at 138, hudon @125 all getting great reviews as very good value picks….many other likely NHLers in Collberg, Beaulieu, top goalie in 2013 draft, MCcaron, De LA Rose,etc,etc,

    I am not sure how anyone can possibly knock Timmins draft history

    • The_Truth says:

      Looks decent. Not a lot of top end talent, but the quantity of NHL bodies are there. Strange that the Habs were so bad over that period and in continuous search of pieces (or not?). Not a very balanced draft portfolio or many Playoff type performers.

      Overall, I give Timmins a B so far.

      I think he is finally realizing that drafting for need instead of the “best player available” isn’t such a bad idea. After the top 10-15, assessing the “best player available” is a crapshoot anyway.

      • krob1000 says:

        I just looked at last years top 20 scorers…
        1. St. Louis-UFA
        2. stamkos (1st overalll)
        3. Ovie (1st overall).
        4. Crosby(1st overall)
        5. kane(1st overall)
        6. Staal (2nd oerall)
        7. Kunitz-UFA
        8. KEssell(5th)
        9. Hall (1st overall)
        10. Datsyuk (red wing legacy 171st)
        11. Getzlaf (19th)
        12.Ribeiro(45th team let go)
        13. Toews (3rd overall)
        14. Giroux (22nd)
        15. Zetterberg (Detroit legacy 2010th)
        16. Backstrom (4th overall)
        17. Tavares (1st overall)
        18. Voracek (7th overall)
        19. Ladd (4th overall)
        20. H sedin (3rd overall).

        he is doing a great job. HE has only had two high picks Price and Galchenyuk….he nabbed the leagues best damn last year at 43rd….
        THis was definitely a draft wehre I thoguth he would go for more bigger guys with his crapshoot picks but his record speaks for itself

  13. Bill says:

    HF72: regarding the Freudian overtones of posts about Chara, Lucik, or your average goon, you could not be more right.

  14. Say Ash says:

    Kovalev…Gomez…I see DD in Florida’s future.

    • Timo says:

      Oh please… can be a very very near future?

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Timo –

        You seem to dislike everyone associated with the Canadiens. The players, the current coach, the last three coaches, the current GM, the last two GMs, the scout, every single one of the individuals who wear the Youpii outfit, Youpii himself.

        And I’m, not saying you’re wrong.

        But who or what are you cheering for? The logo?

  15. Sportfan says:

    LOL Scott Gomez signed in Florida, how many times will he be booed?

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  16. habs1992 says:

    Gomez to Florida CONFIRMED

    I support Carey Price
    “Habs Insider”

  17. thebonscott says:

    Excerpt from a Brian Wilde article on habs early playoff exit.

    ……..Let’s not be blind however to a prevailing trend in hockey and that in the near and distant future is an obvious problem for the Habs. The officials in the last three weeks of the season began to call very little, the play as a result naturally becomes tighter and tighter, puck battles in the corners decide the outcomes of games and not smooth fast skating through the neutral zone. Transition game speed is replaced by dump and chase hoping to attain possession. It is not the hockey skill set the Montreal Canadiens were built for, so as much as they had a strong series and deserved a better fate, in the end, as time would have passed and moved to the second and third rounds, the Habs lack of size would have been a glaring issue anyway.
    Marc Bergevin told me he knew he needed to add grit to his squad when I interviewed him in December. He knows even more now that he needs to add grit. The Oilers and Canucks finished their post mortems with the same announcement that they needed more size and grit. If the officials are going to call that type of game in the playoffs, you may benefit from one kind of skating game in the regular season and establish your standing on that, but when the playoffs begin, you will lose that standing as soon as the first defenceman holds you, bangs you into the boards, almost takes your head off, beats you in a puck battle, denies you speed through the neutral zone with obstruction.
    This isn’t 2005 after the lock out with five obstruction calls per game. Obstruction hasn’t stopped. They just stopped calling it. This isn’t 2010 with Stephen Walkom, the director of officals, still pressing for a more wide open hockey. This is Terry Gregson at that helm now, with the full backing of the Snider and Jacobs types in Philadelphia and Boston. Playoff hockey is designed for the big man.
    Speed kills they say. Just not in the NHL playoffs.

    Read more:


    • bwoar says:

      LOTS of work for Bergevin to do. Not expecting much for the next couple of years.

      Probably time to put ol’ TT out to pasture as well, he’s a great analyst of the kind of talent we now have too much of.


      • Timo says:

        So what’s the time frame here? Half a century?

      • Chris says:

        I disagree with putting Timmins out to pasture. Timmins has specialized in finding NHL calibre players, and he is one of the elite scouting directors in that regard. Timmins has done an exceptional job.

        What is not Timmins’ job is parlaying those talented players into players that fit the Canadiens’ roster. Timmins was not the one who traded Ryan McDonagh (he reportedly was vehemently against his inclusion in that trade). Timmins was not the one who rushed Latendresse and mismanaged his development (exacerbated by the fact that the team had no player development coaches to work with the kids and teach them how to be pros).

        Timmins was not the guy who let Maxim Lapierre get too big for his britches, nor was he the guy who enabled Chris Higgins’ thinking he was a 30-40 goal scorer in the NHL.

        With smart management, these players could all be in Montreal playing an important role on the team. Regardless, Timmins did pick up guys like Subban, Pacioretty, Tinordi, Beaulieu, and Galchenyuk, all skilled players with size who can play in traffic.

        Timmins isn’t perfect. But he gives his general manager NHL calibre assets year after year. It is up to the general manager and the pro scouting department to use those assets to get the pieces that best fit the Canadiens’ need.

        • SmartDog says:

          I think the same thing every time someone complains about a guy we “passed over”. There’s a reason why Detroit “drafts” so well. They develop well.

          Montreal has been (amazingly, shockingly, foolishly) slow to fixing its problems in player development and support. Finally on track it seems with a better facility, a bigger staff, more support and communication from top management, etc.

          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • krob1000 says:

            Difference in development in Detroit I believe is the stability( I guess that can be development too)…..they have had the same star players forever and the new regime learned from the old, greed does not fly in Detroit, you don’t make the team until you can contribute but they have had steady ownership, consistency in management, and veteran hall of famers leading them on for the last 2 decades. I don’t for a second believe Datsyuk, Kronwall and Zetterberg become the players they are without Lidstrom, Yzerman, Shanahan, Federov, Chelios,etc,etc, (add multiple hall of famers they would constantly add like Robitaille, Hull, Modano, Hasek, Coffey, LArionov, Fetisov, Ciccarelli, Murphy,etc,etc)

            In all fairness a Detroit Red WIng alumni party could go toe to toe with a Habs one…..that couldn’t be said 20 years ago but sure can now….

          • SmartDog says:

            In other words… in Detroit they ACTUALLY passed the torch. In Montreal… well we all know who dropped it and when.

            Bergevin has a big job trying to get it back.

            Of course it could be worse. There’s Toronto where worthy teams are so far in the past they took down all the photos and replaced them with colour snaps instead!

            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Pretty much bang on.

  18. mdp2011 says:

    Breaking News:

    Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl 37s
    Scott Gomez’s career will continue with the Florida Panthers. The team announced it has signed him to a one-year deal.

    Carry on.

  19. JohninTruro says:

    Here is a look at Christian Thomas from the Bulldogs website:

  20. on2ndthought says:

    Smartdog, what is the name of that motel? Do you know if they allow pets? My sister just left here, and is staying in Edmunston tonight.

    “a cannonading drive”

    • johnnylarue says:

      Hey that’s right by my home town! (Grand Falls).

      Edit: Can’t help with regards to the hotel/motel. Sorry!

      • on2ndthought says:

        I love Grand Falls! Used to stop over there, and show the kids the falls 🙂 Stayed in a motel very close, where you could hear the water all night. Fond memories!

        “a cannonading drive”

        • johnnylarue says:

          Yeah, the falls and gorge still do it for me. It’s spectacular stuff–and that’s coming from someone who’s done his share of traveling.

  21. Psycho29 says:

    @ ClutchnGrab:

    I’ve been looking (mostly) at the old Gazettes in the archive, some amazing stuff…

    The Allo Police newspaper from the 50’s and 60’s had some scary, gruesome photos.

  22. thebonscott says:

    Listen to Brian Wilde speak, at the 30min 45second mark and onward for about 7 mins. It is true and i don’t like it, but that is the game today. And I don’t see it changing, and that’s why we need Parros, and more players like Prust.


  23. frontenac1 says:

    What the hell is auto erotic? Is it better than standard erotic? Off to the Saloon amigos. Oh yeah,Leafs Suck! Saludos!

  24. sims says:

    whats the above photo from? is that nick foligno?

    • mark-ID says:

      yes it is, it was during the lockout….one of the NHLPA press conferences.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  25. on2ndthought says:

    I’m hoping Parros turns out a bit the way Todd Ewen did. They seem to have similar personalities, The Animal was one of our more thoughtful, erudite, and popular players. His skill set was limited, but if his role was understood by everyone on the ice, he was effective.

    Think of it as playing short-handed with a bulldozer on the ice. When is the last time you saw Chara looking over his shoulder nervously or Lucic shying away from contact? You know coaches are going to tell certain players ‘don’t engage’. That can’t help but make them change their overall aggressiveness.

    I don’t know if he’ll be dressed for every game, or every playoff series, but he provides an arrow in the quiver we didn’t possess last year.

    “a cannonading drive”

    • adamkennelly says:

      Todd Ewen was an old school enforcer…he most definitely understood his job – and under no circumstance did he need to extend an invitation to anyone…when he was around, no one on our team got messed with – period – and if they did – he took care of it. not the best fighter on the planet but didn’t really matter. he also had no problem plastering the other team’s skilled players just to stir things up.

      it would be great if Parros provides that same level of “protection”

  26. Captain aHab says:

    Since we’ll likely see this thread for the next week or so, we need to come up with some topics to fill the time:

    Does GP have a code?
    Is GP a vegetarian or a normal human being?
    What is GP’s shoe size and are they big enough or do they need to be moar biggerer?
    Does GP have a hot girlfriend?

    Anybody else?

    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  27. HabinBurlington says:

    I know there are a few other gearheads on this site, for those of you I really encourage you to read this article on the late Dick Trickle. It is a great read, what a driver this guy was.

  28. krob1000 says:

    That is an odd list of one hit wonders….Eller has seen his production escalate with experience….looks more like a natural progression than a one hit wonder

  29. Sportfan says:

    Here you go guys ! New Blog Hockey related, me hating on the Divisions and scheduling!

    • B says:

      I’m not sure about the other team’s schedules, but what really stuck out to me about Montreal’s large set of back to back games is that only once are they in the same city.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    Earlier, I implied that the arousal some experience while watching hockey fights might be of a sexual nature.

    This was unacceptable, offensive and rightly censored, but can you blame me?

    I’m not a Freudian, God knows, but when you see people openly pining for a “big crease clearer”, or praising a player’s balls, well you don’t need to have read any of the Viennese doctor’s books to draw the obvious conclusions.

    I also implied that some people engage in autoerotic practices while surfing the Internet, and I apologize if this is wildly off-base.

  31. gumper says:

    Howdy folks. Heading out Sat. from southern Ont. on a driving tour of the east coast…main destination Newfoundland. Anyone who lives in Montreal, I’d be grateful for any tips about how to “skirt” the city most effectively. First night stop in the Rivière du Loup area. CAA is recommending the new bridge rather than the tunnel. Does this make sense? Any tips would be appreciated.

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
    Mark Twain

    • PG_doesnt_stand_for_Pierre_Gauthier says:

      Take the new highway #30!!! You’ll save all the headache from going into construction. You can take it from either the 40 or the 20. It’s a toll highway (2.50$) but it’s really worth it! You’ll follow it until highway 20 on the other side of Montreal.

      Markov to Subban, he scores!

      • Sportfan says:

        Eww tolls lol

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      • SmartDog says:

        The WHOLE purpose of the 30 was to have a highway that skirts the city… so yeah, do that. Check the map and radio though. Happy sailing.

        Where you staying in Rivier du loup? We usually stop in Edmundston on the way to Halifax. I know a good motel/hotel there. Clean but cheap, has a pool for the kids, right by the highway.

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • gumper says:

          Sorry SD, would have to check with the chief navigator (wife) for exact spot, but east of R de L.

          The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
          Mark Twain

    • on2ndthought says:

      You could also take the 13 north from the 40, the 640 east, back to the 40 east to Quebec city. Google maps says you add 14 minutes traveling time, but with construction and downtown traffic, you will almost be guaranteed to save time and aggravation.

      “a cannonading drive”

    • SmartDog says:

      Do two things (edit: or four):
      1. DON’T pass through between 3:30 and 6:30 if you can help it.
      2. Turn your radio to 800 am – CJAD (English) does traffic every 15 minutes. Listen for bridge or span problems.
      3. Check the traffic map below.
      4. I don’t know the new bridge. But the 20 should get you by and it’s a bit quicker than the 40 (though both are pretty good). Skirting by heading up the 13 should only be if the traffic map really goes funky to the south of Mtl (the 20).

      BTW, the dynamic Montreal traffic map is ALL green. Can’t be right:,Montreal,+QC&gl=ca&layer=t&ei=rTb5UanPDZiw4AOH7YAo&ved=0CCoQ8gEwAA

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • gumper says:

        Cheers to all for the advice. Based on this I’ll do my homework more thoroughly before departure.

        The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
        Mark Twain

  32. ClutchNGrab says:

    Wow. I just discovered the Google newspaper page that allows you to look at hundreds of newspapers archives. I may post in the future some of the findings that I make.

    I had to share:

  33. bwoar says:


    If Ryan O’Byrne is a UFA, what the hell is MB waiting for to sign him? He’s just the type of player we’re missing.


    • krob1000 says:

      on paper he is but given all of his “character” talk…his incident while in Montreal lkely makes that a non starter…from the reports we have heard OB was just trying to help a teammate but he was the fall guy for it and as such will likely not get a chance. I wouldn’t mind him coming back….only saw two games of his last year but he looked improved in those from his time in Montreal….he looked relaxed and in Montreal he always looked like he was trying to not mistakes.. and that never works

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I’ve lost track of Oh-Oh-Byrne since he left Montreal.

      Has he managed to learn the game since then?

      • bwoar says:

        He’s a little better. He’s got history with our goalie (never a bad thing), belongs on the right side, and can help clear the net (which no one on our squad does.)

        I know, I know. There’s a reason he’s unsigned.

        Hell, I guess I’ll have to live with Drewiskie.


    • knob says:

      We already have 9 defencemen.

    • New says:

      I think it is due to the fans riding him mercilessly. Not only the “get the cell phone pictures before she sends them viral” thing but the “I’ll just fire it back to Carey during the delayed penalty…oops no one in net” thing. I’m pretty sure management doesn’t want the distraction and I can only imagine that Ryan doesn’t either.

      This part is funny though…he was +2 in the Boston melt down and only played 13 mins. They had Phaneuf, Franson, Gardiner, and Gunnarson (I looked it up) on for the four Boston comeback goals. So I guess he takes the blame. (It is always fun for me to look up stats about that game. I am going to have to talk to a professional about that.)

  34. Dust says:

    Assuming that Emeiln and Gionta will start the season on the IR. My ideal lineup is:


    Thoughts, Critisism? I want it all, haha.

    • adamkennelly says:

      I wouldn’t give Bourque first line reps out of the gate but I like the personnel..I’d switch it up a bit..

      Gally w/ eller and patches
      Bourque w/ DD and Prust, Briere up with Pleky to start.

      • krob1000 says:

        That would be a dangerous line…Eller-Galch and Briere…could be costly though as Eller may put up some scary numbers if BRiere can still convert.

      • Dust says:

        Yeah I questioned myself for putting Bourque there as well. I just figured he would create more space for the other two with his forecheck.

    • bwoar says:

      I would switch Galchenyuk and Pacioretty, but that’s about it at forward. While I like the idea of the kid on the top line, more often than not it’s gonna pick up a ton of defensive responsibilities and play longer minutes than I’d want to have him on the ice.

      I think you can effectively swap out Beaulieu for Boullion and have the expected defense. Tinordi may be beaten by Pateryn in camp… you never know.

      I may be the only one, but I think Beaulieu will top out at Brisebois level, and may never get there. Not high on the kid. I thought he’d have a better hockey IQ then he’s shown to date.

      I also expect Dumont or…. Leblanc (!) to be in there for Parros. I like enforcers, contrary to the skirt brigade here, but he won’t be a regular.


      • Dust says:

        Good points. I would like to see what Galchenyuk can do playing with Pleks though. I think they would have good chemistry.

        I put Beaulieu in because I thought we could use him on our 2nd PP with Diaz. I think yuo are right though about Boullion getting the start.

        I agree with your thoughts on Parros. However, our first game is against Toronto. Unless he gets injured in camp Parros is playing that first game

    • krob1000 says:

      Galcehnyuk needs a player with a an elite release ….the only guy last year consistently able to handle his passes and who was consistently ready and set for them was Gallagher. Pacioretty could likely do so as well but IMO those are the only two guys on the team (not sure about Briere…we’ll see but in his prime he could).

    • Timo says:

      Like I said yesterday… an average lineup to get through the first half of the season. After that it will be like last 10 games of the past season only for 40 games.

    • gumper says:

      I think we still need The Cube back there while Tinordi and Beaulieu are learning the ropes

      The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
      Mark Twain

  35. krob1000 says:

    I just wanted to note something re possession stats. I have read several scouting reports over the years and heard from coaches even evaluating midget kids who are looking to get drafted into the OHL anlayze the players decision making. In a game as fast as hockey where decisions ultimately are the difference maker and the holy grail of a relevant stat in hockey (or so I belive anyway) one would think they would have something better than “possession” as an indicator. I find many of the stats that are accumulated are more easily criticized than defended and this includes the advanced stats. The basic tried and true results oriented stats will always have some value but the great majority of these advanced stats I see are not much use.
    I like that they have started tracking quality of competition, possession to some extent, offensive starts, that type of thing but ultimately hockey is a game of decisions……literally thousands and thousands per game.
    I hear and read of scouts analyzing a players ability to make the more difficult passes as opposed to passing the hot potato off to the nearest guy (although that guy who was the nearest made a correct decision in givng his player that option at the very least).
    IF anyone wants to revolutionize the game statistically…..FIND A MEANS OF MEASURING DECISION MAKING.
    You could have possession time after a pass, shots off of a pass, outnumbering rushes off of passes, zones puck advanced and speed they are done at, etc,etc
    You could do the same for puck carriers ….you could include how many defenders drawn to the carrier freeing other players before their pass,time and space creation,etc
    I love watching Datsyuk, Plekanec, Toews, Hossa, Bergeron,etc defensively as well….these guys make dozens of plays per game that aren’t categorized statisitcally by taking away options, angling into dead space, eliminating options and lanes, sure they get takeaways by doing so occasionally but that doesn’t mean they already did not make a great defensive play that altered the following sequence…because they did…and they do consisitently.
    I remember watching Pleks the first year after his first great season where he struggled offensively….I watched and watched him and became absolutely fascinated with how amazing he was away from the puck.
    AWAY FROM THE PUCK…..this is the another lucrative area that needs to be measured by some braniac…….there are 10 skaters , 2 goalies and one puck….almost your entire game is played away fromthe puck…so why are we measuring time with the puck….start measuring decisions and efforts away from the puck. This is often overlooked by the casual fan….many average joe”s who coach at any level as minor as it may be likely analyze every one of their players efforst and decisions away from the puck because they ultimately become as important as time with the puck. You definitely need the skills and decision making with the puck….but you make 10 times as many decisions away from it to lead to your times with it.

  36. HabinBurlington says:

    So I got a great reminder the last couple of days of why I became a hockey and why so many here have a connection with hockey.

    On Monday night I met Bobby Baun at pre-tournament get together. Tuesday morning I see Mr. Baun standing by himself waiting for things to get started. I go up to the gentleman and say Hi and re-introduce myself. He says, you don’t have to do that, I remember meeting you last night. He was just a great guy and enjoyed sharing stories and conversation. The bugger went on to win one of the closest to the pin holes, after the tournament I asked him if he could of made the shot with a broken leg. He told me it would have been a hole in one if that was the case.

    Hockey truly had some great gentlemen playing the game, no wonder we look back at that era of hockey with a sense of purity.

    Morning everybody!

  37. commandant says:

    How Winnipeg’s moves show a trend by GMs in the Salary Cap League, and a question if this is the right way for GMs to go?

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • The Juice says:

      They have undoubtedly made a commitment to their core of players. Question is whether the core is worthy of such a committment given their lack of success to date…


      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

    • krob1000 says:

      I think 20 years from now the players (former ones at teh least and perhaps even playing owners) will own the game…they will have enough money that they will not need owners….not the traditional kind anyway….

  38. MC's BEST #33 says:

    Fighting is a joke. Skill and toughness is what hockey is all about.
    good clean body-checks not the dirt that’s going on today. trying to Mame a player is that what you like watching.

    the best player in the world whom fills the arenas every-time he’s in town Sidney Crosby they’re trying to put him out of hockey next it will be stamkos. Shame on Bettman and the other useless one’s running the NHL to allow this kind of stuff.

    Bettman is not getting hurt in his oval office pulling in the big dollars more than a lot of players as well as his supporting cast they’re not the guys getting beat around on the ice and couldn’t care less. Players should be allowed to play with skill and toughness that’s all that’s needed to have good NHL hockey. End of story.

    The toughest and most skilled team wins it all.

  39. JohninTruro says:

    Anyone else watch the Canada-Russia 2005 WJC tilt on TSN last night? Classic game. So interesting to see Malkin and Ovechkin back then, and what a stacked team we had wow. Didn’t realize it but Emelin scored the only goal for the Russians!

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