Waite named Habs’ goalie coach; McCarron gets taste of Montreal’s hockey fish bowl

Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced on Thursday morning that Stéphane Waite has been hired as the team’s new goaltending coach.

“Stéphane Waite has over 30 years of experience as a goaltending coach, including the past 10 seasons with the Chicago Blackhawks organization,” Bergevin said in a statement. “He contributed to two Stanley Cup championships with the Blackhawks during his tenure working closely with two different goaltenders, namely Antti Niemi and Corey Crawford. We are very pleased to welcome Stéphane in our organization. He has a vast experience, and a thorough knowledge of our local market and we are convinced that our goaltenders will benefit from his expertise and his work ethic.”

Waite just completed his 10th season as goaltending coach with the Blackhawks. Chicago goaltenders Crawford and Ray Emery earned the William B. Jennings Trophy this past season, awarded to the goaltenders with the best goals against average in the NHL. Prior to joining the Chicago organization, Waite served as Sherwood Hockey’s Pro goaltender representative (2001-04). He was also a goaltending consultant for IMG Hockey (2000-2004).

Waite replaces Pierre Groulx, whose contract wasn’t renewed after last season. Groulx spent four seasons as the Habs’ goalie coach after taking over from Rollie Melanson. This past season, Carey Price ranked 29th in goals-against average (2.59) and 35th in save percentage (. 905) while posting a 21-13-4 record with three shutouts. His performance was particularly shaky at the end of the season and in the playoffs he posted a 1-2 record with a 3.26 GAA and a .894 save percentage. For his career, Price has a 9-17 playoff record with a 2.90 GAA and .905 save percentage.

On Sunday, Michael McCarron became the 551st pick in Canadiens history, selected in the first round (25th overall) of the NHL draft in New Jersey.

Now he’s learning what living in the hockey fish bowl can be like in Montreal.

“I know this is a city of hockey,” McCarron told a mob of reporters in Brossard Wednesday on the first day of the team’s development camp. “I was told to expect this. I’m kinda an easy going guy. I like to reach out to fans and you (media) guys. I don’t think it will ever get old.”

McCarron had 800 Twitter followers before the draft, but as of Thursday morning that number had climbed to more than 8,500. You can follow McCarron on Twitter by clicking here.

McCarron said that being drafted by the Canadiens was “a dream come true.”

“The Canadiens talked to me the most (before the draft) so when they walked up there, I was like, ‘This could be me, this could be me . . . ‘” McCarron said. “The sweat started to fill up my palms and I was like, ‘It’s going to be me.’

“And then they called my name and it was just relief. I gave my mom a nice, long hug, and then my brother and sister and my dad.”

On his way to Montreal for the development camp, McCarron was noticed by some hockey fans at the Toronto airport.

“A dozen guys came up to me and said ‘hey, are you Mike McCarron?’” McCarron said. “That was the first time I’ve ever been recognized outside the rink so it was pretty special.”

It won’t be the last time.

The Habs development camp continues through Sunday with players practising in three groups each morning with scrimmages at the end of the day in Brossard. The camp will wrap up with a scrimmage at 9:30 a.m. Sunday.

All practices are open to the public.

Meanwhile, TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun reported Thursday that free-agent Daniel Briere has narrowed his list of teams down to three, including the Canadiens, New Jersey Devils and Nashville Predators.

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

Canadiens appoint Waite as goaltending coach, canadiens.com

Worth the Waite, canadiens.com

McCarron already living a Habs dream, by Dave Stubbs

Fifty-six players hit the ice for Habs, by Brenda Branswell

Free-agent frenzy watch, TSN.ca

Thirteen potential UFAs who figure to attract attention, NHL.com

Plenty of wheeling and dealing for some teams, montrealgazette.com


  1. Stevie.Ray says:

    I am excited for Pateryn to make the Big club now

  2. Bill says:

    According to HF Board poster, the following players were absent from camp yesterday:
    Connor Crisp
    Artturi Lehkonen
    Joonas Nattinen
    Steve Quailer
    Martin Reway
    Colin Sullivan

    Anyone know why?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  3. Maritime Ron says:

    Stephane Waite!
    Oh boy, Carey is in for a wake up call!

    This guy is all business and he’ll have 1 year to work with Carey.
    If anybody can straighten things out, it’s Stephane.
    If not, Carey is gone next summer.
    Maritime Ron says: June 5, 2013 at 7:03 am

    My $2 bet for next goalie coach is Sherbrooke Quebec born Stephane Waite currently the goalie coach with the Chicago Black Hawks.
    Waite has been in Chicago since 2004, and Bergevin knows him well from his 2005-2012 time there.
    Dudley was also with the Hawks from 2004-09

    Word out is that Waite did a good job with Niemi, and had a lot to do with a great rebound season by Corey Crawford.

    After the 2012 season, Waite made the following comments about Crawford:
    ” The important thing is that we know why he had some problems and we will make sure it does not happen again.”
    There was no elaboration of what those ‘problems’ may have been, yet Crawford is playing outstanding.

  4. HardHabits says:

    Here’s an interesting look at the past ten years drafting records for the 30 NHL teams. Guess who’s in position number one?

    This is certainly an indictment of the prior Habs’ management poor pro-scouting in that they could not translate drafting success into good trades or a winning culture.

  5. Timo says:

    Mike Boone is a 3rd degree connection on Linkedin. Hmmm… what should I endorse Boone for?

  6. ont fan says:

    Trevor Timmons going to Blue Jackets? Darren Mallard interviewing announcer for Jackets.

    • Propwash says:

      Sauce? (Source)


    • Fransaskois says:

      Ya’ll don’t say that.

    • Haborama says:



    • bwoar says:

      Good news.


  7. Un Canadien errant says:

    1) Hiring Stéphane Waite, a goaltending coach who has had good results in Chicago, to replace Pierre Groulx who might not have been the results wished for with Carey Price, is a good move. It’s not guaranteed to work out, but a logical response to the situation.

    As far as Marc Bergevin being able to lure him to Montréal, we shouldn’t give that short shrift. It appears that he is able to build fruitful relationships, and people who have worked with him in the past seem eager to work with him again. That’s a plus, and a win for the team.

    We could compare that to the prior administration, and its leadership shortcomings, but I won’t dive in too deep and let you decide.

    2) About the Daniel Brière reports, I’m getting cold chills. I was basking in schadenfreude seeing what the Tyler Bozak contract might do to the Leafs, but this brought me back to our plight.

    It wouldn’t be Tomas Kaberle-bad, Mr. Brière is still an effective player, but I see that as a very ill-advised patch job. He has a bit of a mercenary attitude, didn’t want to sign here before but now will take a stopgap contract to hopefully return to the Philadelphia area soon, that’s not what I want when we’re adding people to our team.

    Of course, that’s my uninformed fan opinion, I’m not sitting with him discussing the situation, taking a measure of the man, as Marc Bergevin is. He’s the best person to make that decision, obviously, and we’ll eventually have to trust his judgment.

    In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. This generates more lifelong fans who will support the team, and more players who dream of making it to the NHL and wearing the bleu-blanc-rouge. In the salary-cap world we live in, this is an important strategic edge we have on the St-Louis Blues and the Florida Panthers. If Geoff Molson understands anything, it needs to be that there must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.


    • Rugger says:

      Nice to read a calm, rational view in this time of perceived turmoil.

    • The Jackal says:

      Thanks UCE, nice to see some calm and calculated responses to news reports regarding our Habs.

      MB still sucks though, and is MT still coach?

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I would concur with your comments. I also noticed the emphasis on the work ethic of Waite. Perhaps a shot off the bow of a young goaltender letting him know he is expected to pick it up a notch!


    • bwoar says:

      UCE I like your posts, but as long as you keep using Mr. in front of players I have a hard time not reading them in Pierre Gauthier’s voice.


      • Un Canadien errant says:


        I use the formal mister, as in Mr. Desharnais, as a form of respect. I was brought up that way and used to refer to my elders as such, or Uncle or Aunt so and so. It comes easily.

        With the amount of hatred and disdain I see on these pages sometimes, I think it’s a step in the right direction and a pull on the rope in the tug-of-war in maintaining civility. It prevents the writer from casually thinking of a player or personality as a commodity or worse.

        When I read the Globe and Mail editorials as well as the New York Times, they use the formal tone as well. It’s a good standard to shoot for.

        I refuse to use the cutesy nicknames that get tossed around on here, like DD and Patches and Kabs. If we’re texting from the jump seat of a pickup racing in the Baja, there may be a need for brevity, but for the most part we’re all comfortably seated with a proper keyboard to use, it takes a second to type Mr. I don’t see why we’d omit it.

        When a play-by-play man uses the last name of a player, he does so for ease of reference and under time pressures. There’s an understanding that it’s acceptable in this case, but I doubt whether that should extend to regular conversation. Would you walk up to Erik Cole at the airport and say: “Cole, great game last night!”? Of course none of us would, we’d call him Mr. Cole, and some who are more easygoing might call him by his first name, if we felt comfortable being familiar.

        So I’m sorry some of you feel that strongly about my tone of respect, I just think it’s appropriate and the right thing to do, instead of posts like “PG should go XXXXX himself”, or abbreviations or diminutives that I have to decypher, like some that are being bandied about for players who aren’t even on the team yet.

        • bwoar says:

          I wholeheartedly agree with your point on respect, and I too hate using nicknames in general. I like your approach. Despite my occasional ‘colourful methaphors’ and invective against certain people here, I prefer formal voice in most cases.

          But if you said, “Roads? Where we’re going, we don’t need roads”, I’d have no choice but to read that in a Doc Brown voice. Y’know?


        • Chris says:

          I absolutely and utterly detest being called Mr. ______________…it actually creeps me out to be referred to in that way. I would far prefer that everybody, including perfect strangers, only call me Chris. It is a real fight with my students to get them to call me Chris, which I find funny. I ask people to call me something else, yet they still insist on the “polite title”. 🙂

          Most of my colleagues feel the same way. I am hopeful that the whole Mr./Mrs./Ms. thing goes the way of the dodo. Unfortunately for the poor students, there are still enough blowhards in the university that insist on Dr. Smith or Professor Smith that I can sympathize that they don’t know when to be informal and when to be formal.

    • Ed says:

      I would project Briere to score about 12-15 goals for us next season. He scored 6 goals this shortened season and 16 the year before.

      why bother??

      Because the optics are great with the Francophone fans?

      I hate to go there, but I just did.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I’m very skeptical too, Ed, but Marc Bergevin is the one who’ll make that call. If you ask me, we keep our powder dry for other players who would complement those we already have in our roster, but Geoff Molson sometimes doesn’t follow exactly what I recommend.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Agreed. Calm and collected appraisal. Someone I’d follow into battle.

      On the other hand, you have to love the undiluted, rabid passion of the late Haborama. No greater love hath any man than to lay down his life for his team and LIVE on HIO.

    • I’m not thrilled about Briere either — but if we can’t afford a big physical skilled UFA forward like Horton or Clarkson, we can at least get a skilled UFA forward on a one-year deal, to keep that fill that top-nine spot for the short term. The contract term is the key thing IMO — he boosts our top nine a bit for one season, then he’s gone in June to make room for someone else.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  8. habsfan0 says:

    Komisarek & Grabovski bought out by Laffs.
    Are they both on Habs’ radar now?

    • Habfan17 says:

      Grabovski would not be a bad pick up for the right price. He was okay and hated the Kostitsyn’s. Wouldn’t that just bite them both in the ass if the Habs signed Grabovski…lol At the time, I guess Gainey felt Sergei had more upside so he chose to move Grabovski, probably the wrong decision.


    • Newf_Habster says:

      I would love to see MaxPac bite back at him if he returns Montreal. LOL

    • Dunboyne Mike says:


      Grabs was 23/24 when we got rid of him. Perhaps he has matured. I thought he looked good against the Bruins in the playoffs.

      Re. Komo – perhaps you saw exchanges on him on previous thread?…

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    Fighting in the NHL: a proposal.

    OK, you want to keep fighting in the game? Instead of a 5 minute major served sitting in the penalty box, which doesn’t penalize your team, I propose that a fighting major be served on the ice.

    So if you fight, you HAVE to play the next 5 minutes. That’s the penalty.

    And the two players have to serve the penalty in succession. So after a fight the fighter from the home team is on the ice for 5 min, and then the fighter from the away team does his 5 min stint.

    No exceptions.

    If you can’t skate because of the fight and you’re a big lug to begin with, they can heap you in front of the net to block shots.

    • Fransaskois says:

      Fighting is often little more than a side-show and a money grab, especially in the regular season. Therefore…

      Perhaps we should have certain players require a “fighting license”. Only those players who hold a license may perform pugilistic services for their team against other license holders. 😉

      Maybe just set up an UFC octagon at rink side and connect it with a Redbull Crashed Ice course. That will bring the fans in.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      You are truly too creative for this league. Please get back in the box and continue to do your thinking inside it. Hold, don’t push, any boats or envelopes.

  10. Habfan17 says:

    One publication I enjoy reading is the Sports Forecaster Yearbook edition. For last season they predicted the Habs to finish 11th, which seemed realistic, P.K. to be a rising star, nailed it! Eller to be a sleeper, I’d say they were right, and with DD ” Arguably the most surprising 60 point producer in the league last Season. Desharnais has put up good numbers everywhere he has played. That all said, NHL teams will adjust to him in 2012-13, so the diminutive playmaker may find tougher sledding this time around.” Also hit the nail on the head.

    The question is, can he adjust to the level of resistance in the NHL? It is one thing to do it in junior of the East Coast League. He did put up decent numbers in the AHL, but again, lot’s of players did and could not cut it in the NHL. I am not convinced he can.

    If Feaster would take him in a trade, I would do it, even for a pick. He was a UFA signing so a pick is still a good return. Unless MB has plans to move Pleks in the near future and move DD to the 3rd line, I don’t see a future for him in Montreal.


    • Ed says:

      “He did put up decent numbers in the AHL, but again, lot’s of players did and could not cut it in the NHL. I am not convinced he can”

      Desharnais has 111 points in his first 178 games in the NHL.

      Plekanec had 76 points is his first 150 NHL games.

      • Habfan17 says:

        So, Eller has done more than both Desharnias and Plekanec at the same age and as the writer pointed out, he put up 60 points oming in as an unknown and had Cole. That does not mean he can keep up that pace or that he should be a first or second line centre. Of all the centres on the Habs, he is the weakest link…bye bye! He can’t win battles or faceoffs!!


      • Habfan17 says:

        Not to mention he is not a playoff player, 2 points in 10 games, not very good I would say for a guy playing centre on the first line.!


    • Desharnais, Christian Thomas and a 2nd for Glencross?

      No way can MB trade him unless he’s got a francophone star like Briere coming in to replace him, though.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  11. New says:

    I like the Waite signing and the work ethic comment by the GM associated with Waite.

    How many Belarusians that started with Montreal have NHL jobs today?

  12. Haborama says:

    HMMMMM, no one seems to be talking about Iginla, perhaps we could sign him instead of the little rat who’s name shall not be mentioned???

    • habs_54321 says:

      id love to have iginla he would fit perfect on a line with dd and max, saying that i think iginla wants to go to a real contender and wouldn’t be surprised to see him take a paycut and play for a team like boston or LA

      • Landof10000lakesHab says:

        Agreed – not much chance of Iginla in Habville. He has a choice of several contending teams to pick from. In 2-3 seasons, the Habs will be a destination of choice for those star UFA’s in the twilight years seeking a chance to hoist the Stanley Cup.

  13. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay, perhaps some of us may wish to believe Eklund today, as he says not a done deal yet with Briere!


  14. Whatever says:

    Toronto’s 2 player buyouts courtesy of Montreal. You’re welcome Toronto. LOL.

  15. Fransaskois says:

    Notable Habs forward prospects that would not be considered undersized (Under 5’11 or 185lbs) according to Hockey’s Future data:

    Michael McCarron / 6’5 – 229lbs
    Conner Crisp / 6’3 – 225lbs
    Jacob De La Rose / 6’2 – 183lbs (conflicting reports re: weight)
    Alex Galchenyuk / 6’1 – 198lbs
    Tim Bozon / 6’1 – 186lbs
    Michael Bournival / 6’0 – 195lbs
    Joonas Nattinen* / 6’2 – 199lbs
    Brady Vail / 6’1 – 190lbs
    Jeremy Gregoire / 6’0 – 188lbs
    Louis Leblanc / 6’0 – 184lbs (exception, reportedly has gained weight)
    Total: 10

    “Undersized” Prospects (Under 5’11 or 185lbs):

    Brendan Gallagher / 5’8 – 175lbs
    Charles Hudon* / 5’11 – 178lbs
    Sebastian Collberg / 5’11 – 181lbs
    Gabriel Dumont / 5’10 – 184lbs
    Christian Thomas / 5’9 – 162lbs
    Patrick Holland* / 6’0 – 175lbs
    Erik Nystrom / 5’11 – 180lbs
    Sven Andrighetto / 5’9 – 188lbs
    Martin Reway* / 5’8 – 158lbs
    Arturri Lehkonen / 5’11 159lbs

    *Represents players who many scouts consider play with little to no physicality or who may be considered soft or unwilling to “go to the dirty areas”

    Feel free to voice an opinion on physical play or a size correction. Only picked players that seem to have a reasonable chance at making the NHL. The top-20 forward prospects.

    • Whatever says:

      I consider anyone under 200 lbs to be undersized.

      NHL average is 6’1″ 203lbs.

    • Mark C says:

      I would disagree with Hudon and Nattinen. Never read or watched these players as being soft or unwilling to go to the dirty areas.

    • Chris says:

      Many of these numbers are no longer accurate.

      For example, Alex Galchenyuk was listed this season at 6’2″ and 205 pounds. He looks more like a 6’2″ or even 6’3″ player, and I suspect he’s pushing 210 pounds now.

      Hockey’s Future height and weight numbers are updated very erratically. Even the bios on the Canadiens site are not updated frequently. Usually they give the numbers that the players came in at during the physicals at the start of training camp. With the lockout, those numbers did not come in this past year, so the numbers are in many cases 2 years old.

  16. mark-ID says:

    Aaron Asham also on waivers, I know some have shown interest in him in the past here.

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Haborama says:

      GET HIM!!!!



      FFFFFFFUUUUUUHHHHHHHGEEEET ABOUT BRRRRREREEEEEEIIIIIIRRRRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    • Mr. Biter says:

      Prust, White & Asham as a 4th line. That would make games vs the Bruins and other teams much more interesting. Also is McCarron ever big in that picture. When he fills out, Tabernack Price will have a clear view of incoming shots as I’m quite sure traffic will diminish when the big guy is on the ice.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  17. Strummer says:

    If Bergevin had been able to trade Kaberle- who do think the second compliance buyout would have been?

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  18. Haborama says:

    MB had better be doing his best to sign Clowe and Schultz and STAYING THE HELL AWAY FROM DANNY BRIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    🙁 -_-

  19. Fake says:

    Player in play says…”the teams will want to have a pretty solid answer by late afternoon so they can make adjustments if need be.”

    If that’s Briere talking about the Habs, I think that Gio is for sure traded if he’s signed.

    Briere | Gionta
    5’10 | 5’7
    35yrs | 34 yrs
    4M max| 5M

    Take it with a grain of salt trolls!

  20. Timo says:

    While leafs are pursuing guys like Clarkson, Scuderi and already got Bolland, Habs are after Briere. WTF is wrong with this organization?

  21. bel33 says:

    Grabs just bought out in Toronto…. just sayin’… not wanting. Heading off to join AK and SK in the KHL??? haha


  22. Haborama says:

    anything new?

    I’m consistently hearing that New Jersey has the inside track and it makes sense because Breire stated that he did not want to move his kids out of Philly.

  23. florida habs says:

    sportsnet reporting Clarkson, $5.2m/per for seven years

  24. Propwash says:

    I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened…


  25. habstrinifan says:

    In the famous word of that TV maid “the world’s all gone to hell!”

    Looks like Briere is here.

  26. Bripro says:

    Here’s a surprise.
    Gabrovsky on waivers.

  27. HabFanSince72 says:

    Newark, New Jersey is very close to Philadelphia. Come on Danny make the sensible choice.

  28. habsfan0 says:

    Egypt gets a new President and Habs sign Daniel Briere..hours apart.

    A week ago,most people would have said both were impossible.

  29. Haborama says:

    Breire to NJ is what I’ve been hearing the most and it makes the most sense.

    He wouldn’t need to move his family out of the Philly area.

  30. Mike D says:

    Can someone translate?

    Alain Sanscartier ‏@A_Sanscartier 6m
    Le CH suite a la décision de V.Lecavalier est revenu de facon plus agressive dans le dossier de D.Brière.Une annonce est imminente !

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  31. mdp2011 says:

    Oh No!!!!! Looks like Briere is going to be signed

    Alain Sanscartier ‏@A_Sanscartier 4m
    Le CH suite a la décision de V.Lecavalier est revenu de facon plus agressive dans le dossier de D.Brière.Une annonce est imminente !
    Retweeted by Arpon Basu

  32. habstrinifan says:

    MB is only signing Briere because Molson said so.

    Why should only LABATT have a Brier.

    Danny would be Molson Briere.

  33. filincal says:

    Is this new guy related to former goalie Jimmy Waite? I just noticed he coached him before.


  34. Haborama says:

    If MB trades for Perron, I will renounce any and every negative thing that I have ever said about him.

  35. Timo says:

    Btw, Happy Independence Day to all US folks here.

    ‘MERICA!! F$#% YEAH!

  36. Bripro says:

    This for the negative nillies:

    Arpon Basu ‏@ArponBasu
    Not my area of expertise, but hiring a goalie coach who helped Niemi and Crawford win the Stanley Cup seems like a good hire for (Price)

  37. Habitforming says:

    From a friend of mine in the hockey biz….

    Habs will announce a 2 year deal with Briere today.

    I’m not thrilled

  38. Timo says:

    At least Bergevin addressed THE most important problem for the Habs – Carey Price’s groceries. I have a very good inside source that says that it is in Waite’s contract (Clause #1) that his direct responsibilities include groceries for Carey 3 times a week.

    • H.Upmann says:

      no more foods that cause flatulence or sh!tting the bed in playoffs

    • stevied123 says:

      you have been crapping on Bergevin since day 1… the guy re-signs DD who was the biggest savings in the nhl (points vs salary) … who wouldve known that all he needed was security (and a bad start by cole) to completely drop the ball… then he resigns Moen, a guy with size and grit (until last year) on a team with absolutely NONE.. you completely DESTROY the guy day in day out after a 48 game season in his first ever season as a GM. Guys like you would find a way to complain if we found a way to make a bowman/shero/chiarelli hybrid. I mean , MB steps into a job that was held by one of the worst gm’s in team history and all you can do is bash him after 48 games.. are you even a fan? I have ZERO respect for guys like you.

  39. Ed says:

    so, cool story about David Perron. He was NOT drafted as an 18 year old, completely passed over, and is one of the rare players drafted as a 19 year old. Why?

    because his midget years were a disaster. he was perceived as a trouble maker by his local hockey association – even though it was the furthest thing from the truth – so he was cut from AAA, AA, BB, and finally played Midget B!!

    by the time he recovered, there was only time to play 1 year of major junior, after which he was drafted by the Blues.

    Perron is a “late bloomer” because the politics of his hockey community worked very hard to push him out of hockey.

    he has had 2 concussions so that is a red flag, certainly.

    • habstrinifan says:

      We gotta get this guy! Please MB!
      I liked what he said re playing in MTL and entertaining the fans.

      MB if you get Perron I’ll personally put Timo and your other detractors in the same postal code as Jimy Hoffa.

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    The fact that MB can lure a coach away from the Defending Cup Champs for a job of the same level in a different organization, seems to be a nice accomplishment.

    Granted those that have a hard on for MB will not see it that way.

    • HardHabits says:

      I here that HIOcinth is not getting wet these days for MB.

    • Strummer says:

      Luring personnel from an organization that both he and Dudley were a part of until a year ago is hardly a stretch.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Okay my bad, he sucks, he should have kept Groulx.

        The job of a GM is essentially an H.R. person who is responsible and accountable for the people he hires. The fact that he comes from the Hawks organization is indeed a factor in hopefully making him a better GM. It is all about his connections/relationships with various hockey people, be it Coaches, GM’s, Agents and the players themselves.

        To diminish the move because he hired someone from his past organization seems asinine to me. The fact he is able to have come from there and have those people want to follow him to a new organization whose success is much less in recent years, to me speaks volumes to what others think of MB.

        • Strummer says:

          It’s a good hire but hiring people from the Hawks, the team they worked for until recently is the least they can do.

          Now if he got Bickell from the Hawks for market price I would be very impressed.

          Edit- this was a reply to “Okay my bad, he sucks, he should have kept Groulx.” not the major overhaul you did to your post
          “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Good point. I agree it’s a coup.

  41. mdp2011 says:

    What is with everyone here wanting to trade Plecks?

  42. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    LeBrun is saying Briere wants a one-year deal.

    I’m totally opposed to the idea, and am certain Montreal is on his list simply as a PR move, but…..

    A one year deal wouldn’t be so terrible if it did happen. If nothing else, MB would have the option of signing a guy that very well could be worth a high round draft pick at the trade deadline. Given Briere’s history as a playoff scorer, teams would give something up for him. Or, if we hang on to him for the whole year, we have a very proven playoff performer.

    A one year deal does make it more enticing. But still very much on the fence about this.

    • Haborama says:

      The issue is that he would make us a much smaller team, and undo all that has been done to rid ourselves of the Great Smurf Curse of 2009.

      I would be open to this deal only if he offloads DD BEFORE attempting the signing.

  43. Mike Boone says:

    LOVE the hiring of Stéphane Waite. Project what he did with Corey Crawford onto CP and Fucale. Gonna be great.

    Mike Boone
    Hockey Inside/Out blogger

  44. bwoar says:

    Stars, Flames and Vancouver need centres….

    Man I would swap Plekanec for Edler anytime.


  45. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Trin, I prefer We sign Osama bin Laden than Briere

  46. Timo says:

    Feaster is looking for centers – http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426888

    Wake the f up, MB. Little David can be offloaded.

  47. habstrinifan says:

    OK wile everyone’s away I’m gonna sneak this in and then go hide.

    Mtl players development staff… Better by leaps and bounds than 2 yrs ago.

    Mtl respect for skill hockey.. improving under MT(if with some lapses).

    Briere… no! Pouliot for cheap cheap cheap… yes.

    Now Pouliot could replace Ryder’s scoring.

    What? Go back to the back of the bus… OK!

  48. Timo says:

    So if Bergevin gives us all a nice summer present and signs Briere… does Briere get booed at the intros and everytime he effs up on the ice?

  49. boing007 says:

    I’m lovin’ it.
    Can’t wait to see some positive results in Carey’s play.

    Richard R

  50. The Teacher says:

    Briere. Two years 8 mill. Ughughugh

  51. Haborama says:

    Oh, one more thing!

    I don’t think McCarron at any point talked about fighting Lucic. He actually said that Lucic was his biggest inspiration as a player and who he modeled his game after.

    All he did was re-tweet a tweet sent by a rather overzealous fan. That should be viewed as him being courteous and having humor. nothing more.

  52. habstrinifan says:

    Hudon! Hudon! McCarron what have you done with Hudon?

  53. Haborama says:

    Would Collberg and a second rounder be good enough to pry Perron away from the Blues?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We keep Sebastian Collberg, or else we’ll be kicking ourselves in a couple of years.

      Using him in a trade for Mr. Perron would be short-term gain for long-term pain.

  54. Haborama says:

    I think someone on HF commented that McCarron actually skates quite well for a big man.

    I think the best option for him would be UWM. H would get more time to develop his skills and put on even more muscle mass. The big knock is the lack of fighting in US Colleges, but he can still take boxing lessons and even pay a few visits to Churla so as to keep fighting as a big part of his overall game.

    I think that if he does two or three years at UWM, he will become a dominant top six power forward.

    If he takes the CHL rout, he may be pigeonholed as a third line enforcer/grinder type.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Good post. Why waste your First Round pick on an enforcer? Man, if 3 years of college can help him match his size with skill….

      And maybe by 2016 we’ll have picked up an enforcer to protect him!

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      My thoughts exactly. I know Lecavalier used to take boxing lessons in the summer (as I’m sure quite a few NHLers do).

      I’d prefer him to stay in the US and develop the rest of his game. By the sounds of it he’s already a very physical player (it obviously comes natural to him). I’d suggest developing the rest of his game in the US and get in some boxing lessons at the same time.

      Just my opinion though.

  55. kirkiswork says:

    Please Please don’t sign Briere.

  56. Tomi says:

    Another brain dead move by MB….Will Waite be doing Carey’s grocery shopping so the thoroughbred won’t have to mingle with the public?

    And is Michael Therrien still the coach of this team????

  57. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …McCarron the boy is a man-child …I would be surprised if He has not played an NHL game by the 2014-2015 season

    • Chris says:

      It would be a mistake if he does. Big guys like that take quite a while to get their skating and skills lined up with their size. Move him up too early and you doom him to being a third/fourth line fighter.

      He needs to work on just about every aspect of his game. He needs to gain confidence as an offensive player. He can’t do that playing against people that are way, way better than he is as hockey players.

  58. Un Canadien errant says:

    Really scary that Jarrett Stoll suffered a seizure and has been diagnosed with concussions before. Former Chargers Pro Bowl guard Kris Dielman had seizures on a plane trip home after a game in which he was visibly staggered and woozy, and had to retire after. He’s still struggling with the effects a couple years later.


    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      And you know about the much more famous Charger/Patriot whose brain injuries led him ultimately to take his own life. Not an isolated story in professional contact sports as we know. Makes the mandarins very nervous to see their horses dropping like that.

      Normand I presume you’ve read Malcolm Gladwell’s great article on that. I’ve a link if not.

    • habsfan0 says:

      I wonder if Nathan Horton’s concussion history will have an impact on those clubs who are considering signing him.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        It seems like culture hasn’t really changed enough yet. I believe there IS a slow culture change in train, with players becoming infinitely more educated and aware of the long-term hazards of brain injury. I think that knowledge has changed the way certain Habs play.

        Eventually the change will be accelerated by a couple of massive class action suits, probably in the NFL before the NHL. But for now, Horton only has to divert some of his massive income to a friendly doctor who sign off on his bill of perfect cerebral health.

  59. Maksimir says:

    I’d like to see if LeBlanc bounces back this coming season and if Holland can make the jump… I have a feeling though the Habs are going to be short of scoring unless another rookie surprises out of camp.

    • twilighthours says:

      I don’t see holland ever being a full time NHLer. There seems to be spot on 3/4th line wing for Leblanc is he’s ready to grab it.

      • Maksimir says:

        That’s too bad about Holland then… he was the ‘unknown’ potential in the Cammalieri trade.. way to go Goat.

        • twilighthours says:

          Still a great deal! Subrtracted one soft, selfish player, added one player who was great this year, lessened the cap hit, and got the pick that acquired fucale, I believe.

  60. Haborama says:

    MB states that signing UFA’s is not the way to build a championship team. By signing role players and depth players for the short term, you are not “attempting to build a championship team”, you are merely filling holes until top prospects mature.

    There is a big difference between signing Lecavailer for five years and signing Schultz or Rupp to one or two years.

    I hope MB realizes that, or else we will be in for a long year and a lottery pick.

  61. HabFanSince72 says:

    OK what would it take to get Perron? A 25-year old potential 30 goal scorer. I don’t see how it happens without Tinordi or Beaulieu going the other way.


  62. habstrinifan says:

    First!… oops see i knew I was falling behind. Sorry.

  63. JUST ME says:

    Excellent picture. Really shows why he was chosen. I am not the kind of guy to have graduate rookies before it is time wich means a good 2 or 3 years in the farm team but his coach Andy Murray says that this guy is less than 2 years away from the NHL.

    It must be a huge step though to go from being possibly drafted by the NHL to being dumped in Montreal`s zoo within days. That`s why i appreciate that Bergevin hired people especially dedicated to help the youngsters integrate the NHL off ice.

  64. TheShade says:

    Canadiens appoint Stéphane Waite as goaltending coach…


    • habsfan0 says:

      But will Carey Price feel “comfortable” with Waite as he did with his predecessor?

      • Habfan10912 says:

        The days of considering Mr. Price’s feelings may have lapsed. Let’s hope he responds positively.

        • habsfan0 says:

          Considering Waite’s CV…2 Stanley Cup Championships with 2 different goalies while with Chicago, this does appear to be a very good hiring on MB’s part. I wonder who the Blackhawks will replace Waite with. Pierre Groulx?

          This also appears to be a lateral move for Waite,so he must respect MB enormously.

      • christophor says:

        Carey Price wasn’t comfortable with the firing the old guy, so I doubt that’s Bergevin’s worry. Waite has much more to work with in Price than he did in the goalies he’s worked with recently. Though, Waite’s also now coaching a goalie behind a much poorer defense (or defensive system).

      • Chwinsy says:

        We’ll just have to waite and see

    • Psycho29 says:

      He worked a lot with Niemi and Crawford in Chicago

    • Habfan17 says:

      Did you all notice the key words in Mb’s press release, he brings work ethic!


    • habstrinifan says:

      Finally… positive news. Well Done Monsieur Bergevin. As I posted last thread… your front office work merits an A PLUS. Well done!

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      The pressure and fan/media scrutiny on Waite to bring Price to full potential will be so immense that he will eventually not be able to do his own groceries and end up trapped in his own hobbit-hole with his protege.

  65. habs-fan-84 says:

    The potential of McCarron was just too great to pass up.

  66. HabinBurlington says:

    I would love to see the Leafs add Gretzky to the management team. Nonis appears to be doing a nice job with what Burke set him up with, and adding another chef to the kitchen could spoil the meal. 🙂

  67. Cardiac says:

    Heard an interview with Andy Murray, former NHL coach and current coach of Western Michigan University where McCarron might play this year. Murray thinks with their program he can make the jump to the NHL in a year.

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    – Jerry Maguire

    • Ed says:

      that is unfortunate that he would say that, because it’s not likely at all. Even Max, who is a phenomenal skater, literally timed as the fastest on the team, needed some time in Hamilton.

      • christophor says:

        Well on the positive side, it sounds like Murray would put him in a place to succeed, even if he’s way off about the timeline. In London, on the other hand, I’d be worried he’d be pigeonholed into protecting Domi and Horvat, though of course he would be playing more hockey. Tough call.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think either program has merits to McCarron and his development. With Murray at West. Michigan he does get a coach with NHL and Team Canada coaching experience as well.

      I suppose end of day it will come down to how much the Hunters anti up to get the big boy. It is naive to not recognize that teams like London have various “ways” of providing incentive to young players to skip college and head to the OHL.

      • Ed says:

        I’m sure the Habs will be pushing for him to get to London. The London program is much closer to NHL than U.S College. Much closer.

        • twilighthours says:

          I’d rather London.

        • Chris says:

          I think he’d be better off in NCAA. In the NCAA, he will be learning to play a strength game against older, stronger players. He’ll get more game experience in the OHL, but he’ll be fighting non-stop given his size and style of play.

          In junior, he’ll be a man among boys at his size. It won’t be an effective test for him. Everybody acknowledges that his technical skills need a ton of work, and the NCAA is the better environment for that.

          Either way, it will work out eventually. He’s not going to be an impact player in the NHL for 4-6 years, judging from other power forward prospects, so it isn’t like he is in a rush.

          • Ed says:

            You may be right. I just think he needs to play a lot games, a lot of hockey, and that’s in Junior.

            College season might not be enough for him.

          • twilighthours says:

            I think he needs to play a lot of hockey and be mentored in playing on the edge. Who better than the hunters for that?

            I’d rather him fight too much than not at all.

            We need to be realistic about the type of player he will eventually become, and groom him for that.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Maybe a year at college and a year with the Hunter boys?He just turned 18 ,I think.

          • Chris says:

            Ed: McCarron played 85 games total between the US National U18 Team and the National Development Program team.

            The season before, he played 93 games.

            I would argue he’s played too many games thus far. Games are great at improving your defensive game. But for the technical skills, having some more time to work on his stick-handling, skating and shooting might be a blessing. We know he’s got size. But he’s got a long road in front of him to put that size to good use.

            I watched Taylor Doherty absolutely rip up the OHL as a 19 year old because he was a men among boys (6’7″, 215-220 pounds). His 20 year old season was even better. As a pro, however, he’s basically been stuck in neutral.

            I would like to see McCarron give the NCAA a year. If it isn’t working, he can come to the OHL next season. If he goes to the CHL now, he can’t go to the NCAA next year.

            He’s not eligible to play in the AHL until the 2015-16 season, so he’s got two years to kill one way or the other.

  68. Timo says:

    Oooweee… McC needs some skating lessons.

  69. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Happy Independence Day to all American and US-based posters.

    Here in Ireland people always get very embarrassed and apologetic if they mistake me for an American. Doesn’t bother me at all, and I always just tell them, “I won’t hear a word against our neighbours to the south. They are a country bordering on greatness.”

    [Always seems fresh here. Is it actually really old?]

  70. christophor says:

    In a perfect world, there’s no Briere, only Perron.

  71. jols101 says:

    That picture is hilarious. This kid is gigantic. Him and Hudon ,side by side, is too funny…

  72. habsfan0 says:

    I’d like to see a pic of McCarron standing beside Desharnais.

  73. Timooo says:

    Hope this big boy works out! God we need a physical presence in the opposing crease.

    • axxerd11 says:

      I agree. I’m not overly concerned about his skating. A player his size just isn’t going to be the same kind of skater as someone like Hudon who is standing in front of him in that photo. We can’t have a team filled with huge guys no more than we can have a team filled with small guys. A mix of big, small, and average guys is what we need.

      Newfoundland’s biggest Habs fan. Hands down.

  74. Timo says:

    Damn. I wanted ot be second.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You seem to be developing a fan following there bud!

    • bwoar says:

      Mac Bennett, PMD propect, blogs from the camp:


      Word is that he’s actually up to 195 lbs.


      • Ed says:

        I have seen Bennett. Excellent skater. Really smooth. He plays a very smart game, and he attended Hotchkiss Prep so I cheer for his success!

        • Chris says:

          It’s funny how many Habs fans have written him out of the Habs plans because he’s chosen to develop in the NCAA. It reminds me of that McDonagh fella. 🙂

          Bennett was a project pick when selected back in 2009, but it is a gamble that just might be paying off. Great skater, decent size (5’11”, 195 pounds is perfectly adequate) and he’s playing for a great teacher (Red Berenson) at Michigan.

          I liked Bererson’s quote from a Pat Hickey article back in March:

          “Berenson said he hopes Bennett will return for his senior year. The coach has seen numerous players being lured to the NHL and said it’s not always for the better.

          ‘The Canadiens pulled (Max) Pacioretty out after one year and he spent two years in the AHL,’ Berenson said. ‘Mike Komisarek played two years here and he might have been better off if he stayed for another year or two. Komo had a man’s body, but he was still a kid.'”

          • Ed says:

            certain players will develop better at Michigan – a great program under Berenson, maybe the best! – and others need to get into a pro style game in Junior.

            last time I saw Bennett he was dominant in 3 zones.

          • bwoar says:

            I love the under-the-radar guys. Allegedly (i.e. what I read on another site, was that) Brisbois challenged him to show up to this camp at 195. So far, so good. That’s average size for his play style.


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